001I can't see my stuff. Jerry, you want to go over the the agenda from the start? >> So, item number one on the agenda is the Applegarth rod grant projects, the roof projects, electric service, and HVAC projects update. As soon as school let out, the contractors began in earnest on the roof and HVAC projects. Obviously, everyone knows this has been a challenging summer weather-wise with all the rain. So, that has limited u their progress. However, uh they've been taking advantage of every day this past weekend. They worked Saturday and Sunday. I'm pleased with their project in consideration pleased with their performance, the quality of the work. As mentioned to the committee before, there's a great deal of coordination going on between the roof work and the HVAC work. As much of it is on the
002roof. Uh the two trades are coordinating nicely. The HVAC contractor is working in the building demolishing and removing existing equipment. He's already started installing new classroom unit ventilators. Um as far as the roof areas, the 1960 building roof is complete with a cap sheet. Um, the missing component there is just the perimeter flashing. What that means is that we can now start our summer cleaning and prepping the rooms underneath that. They're working their way through the 1979 roof. They're probably about 80% complete there. And again, with the good weather projected for this week, uh, we should be in good shape with that roof by the end of next week. And then they will move on to the 1983 section at the rear of the building. The electric service as previously reported to the committee. We
003were fortunate that the JCPNL utility transformer arrived on the day of moving up ceremony for Applegarth. We received that. That has been set in place. That electrical contractor has done the wiring from that to a point where he can on the building and we are still waiting on the main component which is the switch gear. No change yet on the deliver delivery of that. We are monitoring it closely. as an administrative team. Uh Dr. Layman has guided a plan B working with uh Dr. Graciano and her team and uh they they are on tonight to discuss what our plan will be should the electrical components not come in ahead of schedule and we need to occupy middle school. So Don, I'll turn it over to you at this point. >> Okay. Um so good evening
004everyone. Uh I can report at this point that um again under Dr. Layman's leadership we've met two times uh and kind of fleshed out a lot of the details in case we do need to open over at the middle school. We have um we've created documents to share with our staff in the eventuality that that happens. a lot of heads have come together to brainstorm any type of obstacles that might stand in our way and we've, you know, come up with a contingency plan for everything we could think of. Um, we're kind of excited at this point. Uh, I don't know if you know, but Mrs. Wyn and I both come out of the middle school environment. We know the building very well. Um, and we will will be able to keep our fourth graders
005in the existing trailers. Dr. Higgins has been very welcoming and accommodating in terms of making sure that he can carve out the classroom space at least on a temporary basis for us to be over at the middle school. So, we're feeling pretty comfortable and confident right now that if that's the route that we need to go, we're, you know, we've kind of got everything waiting in the wings, just waiting to implement if it if we should need to do so. >> Yeah. One of the things >> Go ahead real quick. One of the things that uh Dr. Graziano and Miss Wyn um really thought was important is towards the end of the summer if we need to go this route um was to get the staff and the students in for a quasi orientation, right?
006An on-site visit. Um, so that's something that it's on the uh on the agenda. It will be uh as we get a little bit deeper into this um and it becomes if it's a reality or or or it becomes even a more potential reality then uh you know she's she and her team have already put the the wheels in motion to get um a quasi orientation. It'd be more like a parent information session and then the kids could come and they would actually get a little bit of a tour of the building. So, um, that's on the radar for us that, you know, it's something that would happen right before school started. Um, because again with the with the delivery of the JCPNL part, we definitely have a shorter uh installation time that we were
007looking at than than we were two and a half months ago, right? It's much shorter now than it was. And that gives us a little bit more time to wait for this part to come in um before we have to pull the trigger. >> Dr. Leman, really quick. Um, I'm sure there are several questions, but um, this was just one that I was I don't want to say happy about, but glad to hear. Um, if we end up needing to go this contingency route, how long are we looking at I know you can't give an exact by any means, but an approximation of weeks, months that this would be um, in play for the students and teachers for Applegarth. >> Yeah. And and that's something Jerry and I kind of go back and forth. I
008don't know if you want to take it, Jerry. >> Yeah, I I I don't feel comfortable giving out a date because >> we know that the we have a ship date for the component at the end of August. >> If we tell you it's going to be three, four weeks after that, if that ship date doesn't happen, um all those kind of things. And the other factor is when this electrical component comes in, in very simple layman's terms, we are going to be plugging the building into the new electric service. And at that time, you're under the assumption that the new equipment that was installed is all perfect and will turn on, etc. So there there are potential for hiccups along the way here. Uh we are in a good position that we have the
009trailer. Uh that's one thing that you will see at the board meeting next week. Annually we renew through the Department of Education the use of the trailers. It's a standard resolution. Since we are extending the lease on the trailers, we will do that and you'll act on that resolution. So, we have an open-ended window there. Best case scenario, it'll be a few weeks. Worst case scenario, several weeks, but I I wouldn't want to put any time frame out there at this point. And I love that you say that because you have a way of you know avoiding trouble by just talking about it Mr. Tate. So I'm hopeful that our we don't have to extend the lead. I think we are talking about end of October. But my question is it to Mrs. Graziano and
010Dr. Layman is is that when is the final rollout date for plan B? When do we finally say all right we're going to plan B and we need to send the communication out. So, when are we communicating to our staff? When are we communicating to the students? And I love the idea cuz one of my questions was taking them to like a tour and you kind of already thinking about it. So, that's great. But I would love to get an idea on the timeline as to how far are we waiting before we say sorry this is not going to it's not a reality. We definitely are starting in the middle school for fourth and fifth grade. So, what is that timeline like? So communicationwise, we intend to send a basically a hold the date for
011that evening orientation piece sooner than later. Um we're looking probably sending something out next week just to say, "Hey, you know, progress is going on in the construction project, but if we do have this delay, please keep this date pencled in." Um just to save the date piece. Um and then from there, uh Mr. Tag and I talked earlier today and uh you know we're continue to put some pressure and ask this company that we're waiting for this part for um but we would be mid August at the at the latest making this call um in terms of pulling the plug. Now we have everything in place like I said we have you know the transportation piece set up and teacher schedules and room assignments and things like that. Um but again the installation time
012on this is much shorter than it was. Um so we do have a little bit more time. So the drop dead time would be you know in the mid middle of August. Um but we want to give a parents definitely the heads up when put this pencil this date into your calendar and that way if we don't need it that's fine but um it's not a last minute you know come see us this evening of the week or something like that. >> Dr. Um, real quick, >> um, the staff, I know that they're prepared and they packed up more tightly before the end of the year. Would they need extra time to set up if it's if it's middle school, will we will we need to give them a day extra or or is it
013going to be the same setup time like every year for them? >> You want to take this, Don? You want me to take it? I I can speak to it and then if you you know if there's anything that I'm leaving out you know just let me know. Um we are as of right now we are looking to have like a a basic um >> basically a a very basic transport of supplies from Applegarth to the middle school. As of right now we're we're hoping for the shortened amount of time that that we will be there and we're telling them to take a a minimalist approach at least for the beginning. Dr. Layman had the idea that maybe we could have um like a particular decor like maybe a Monroe banner that we might be
014able to place in each of the classrooms which again as we get closer to the end of July I'll probably start moving some of these things into place. I didn't want to be too premature >> but I think by the end of July is probably a good time to start thinking about getting this going. everything else truly is in place like we're ready with classes, assignments, changes in our schedule, transportation, that's all ready to go if and when we need to make that announcement to our parents. Um but in terms of them bringing a lot over, we are going to suggest that they keep it to a minimum for now and then if there is more time needed, we'll figure it out. I mean, we have a variety of different days where maybe um you
015know, we have shortened days in school that might be a good opportunity for them to get more things, but as of right now, we also don't want them coming into the building. We want to minimize I mean, as of right now, they can't come in, but we want to minimize moving forward how much access they're going to be able to have. And we want to make sure, of course, that it's safe. Otherwise, we will take out the basics for them. and what we're bringing all the technology over so they will have their full complement of technology. We can do all our assessments the beginning of the school year if we need to. Um so you know they're going to have what they need to uh you know get the ball rolling just like all the
016other schools are getting the ball rolling. >> So if I'm this right the aesthetics may be compromised but the functionality of starting the year is not going to be compromised for the students and the teachers. >> Yeah. instructionally it will be just as if they were at Applegirth. >> Okay, great. Thank you. Go ahead, Kate. >> Um Oh, sure. So, I guess um and I I forget Dr. Graziano if it was who just brought this up or if it was Dr. Leman, but the transportation element um because I know that was a question that I had heard about. Um I know for my like I'm on Woodland Mill side of the buses the kids aren't together, but I believe for Oak Tree and Apple they are. So I guess can you just sort of shed
017a light without you know having specific details on what that's going to look like? Are we going to need more buses? Is there going to be a change in the timing because um Applegarth starts at a different time than the middle school does? Um I guess like how does that work? >> So the the buses are we are going to be operating with the same number of buses. uh they will drop at Oak Tree as they always have done and then they will bring the students over to the middle school. In terms of time compromise, there will be, you know, there will be a little bit of time on either end. There has to be if we're going from Oak Tree over to the middle school, but we're going to try to keep it as
018streamlined and smooth as possible. We also just um we're going to be meeting with Donna Martyr, the director of transportation. We've spoken to her numerous times already, but um that was I think we put on the calendar for August 4th and we are just going to make sure that we have all of our ducks in a row moving forward. >> Okay. And then just um along those lines for um Falcon Care, is that um I guess how is that going to work with I don't know how many Applegar students utilize Falcon Care um but um how would that work for those students? take it. So, >> oh, sorry, Dr. Layman, go ahead. >> So, Falcon Care is going to run uh out of Oak Tree. So, all students, whether you're Applegarth or Oak Tree, will
019be dropped off at Oak Tree and then they will uh have a assigned bus. So, those students will be escorted onto the bus and they'll travel over to the middle school. end of the day, they'll get on a bus, they'll come back over and they'll go to FA and care so they can be picked up and dropped off um without the parents having to drive all the way to the middle school, especially if they're doing doing an oak tree drop off and then typically just drive across the street. This consolidates everything to uh that same location. Um >> Okay. >> Yep. >> All right. And then I just I had two more questions and that should be good for me was one was regarding lunches um how that would work. And then the other one
020was um I guess like specials, electives, however you want to call it. Like I hopefully the we're in a time where the weather should be nice for gym. It could be easy to go outside and things like that. Um but I wasn't sure um schedul um or like zero periods for banding chorus or things like that. Um so those were the other questions that I was thinking about. Um, so can I take that, Dr. Layman? >> Yep, go for it. >> Okay, so for lunches, it actually worked out uh pretty well for us that the middle school has a half an hour between their lunches there. We kind of snuck in to that in between time. And keeping in mind that our students are very accustomed to eating in 23 minute blocks. That's what they
021do here. That's half of their lunch recess. So we're sliding in there during that interim time at the beginning. Um, we're thinking for the first couple of days at least until the middle school students get in their groove. We may take our food back to the classroom to avoid any overlapping in that time. But as soon as the middle school students are able to go in and out on time, then that's when we're going to go in and take the cafeteria during that time. >> Okay. Students have recess because I'm I hadn't actually thought about that till you said they will still have recess. Okay, great. >> They will still have recess. Yes. and uh we were able to work it out schedule-wise. Um they will be going outside and will be utilizing open space
022um at at the middle school for them to have recess. We're Mrs. Wyn and I are actually in the process of figuring out games and structured activities that the students could do so that they're at different stations during the recess time since it will be um you know a more contained environment than what they're used to. But we have a plan for a variety of stations that they'll be able to participate in during their recess time. >> Oh, fantastic. >> We're actually visiting with uh Dr. Higgins tomorrow as well. So, we've been in constant communication with him. So, we're actually hopping over to the middle school tomorrow just to kind of iron out a couple more things. >> Okay, great. And then the other one was the specials um particularly, I guess, the ones that
023can't be brought into the classroom um if needed. >> Right. So, uh, all of our specials are going to be operating off of carts at the middle school due to, um, you know, there's only so much space. So, they are going to be going into the classes. The physical education classes will be able to go outside as long as weather permits. And if not, they have things that um you know, there are occasions where we can't get our kids into the gym due to let's say an assembly or something like that and they go to a a backup plan of like a silent ball or something like that that they can do in the classroom and still keep the students engaged. >> Okay, great. And then uh zero periods um particularly like I guess the
024larger like chorus bands. Um, I don't know when the robotics thing starts, so I don't know if that would even be an issue at that time of the year, but >> yeah, the the zero periods, the zero periods typically don't start until very very end of September, early October. So, um, you know, that's something that, you know, we we've been working with Mr. Schneider. Um, and we may take a look at that if we need to get pushing into into October, but uh, for the first couple weeks of school, it's not something that, uh, um, you know, we need to worry about for zero period. Um, but we do have some ideas and some ways to um, because you're right, they are large groups to either, um, have them come in at different times or
025maybe have the bands, you know, split up a little differently just for whether it's one session or, you know, we'll take a look, but um, that's not something that starts at the beginning of the school year and, uh, you know, hopefully we are out of the middle school by the time we even need to worry about that. >> Okay, great. Thank you. And thank you guys for all your work on this. I know >> you want >> one quick comment. Appreciate all your questions, Kate, because um when people this is probably something that people will try to see to get answers. The Appleguard community will probably try to see this meeting to get answers and Kate did cover a lot of ground. Uh so it, you know, you you you know, you shed some light
026on everything, Mrs. Graziano, and that does help. I there's so many moving pieces to it and I'm just so um grateful for all the deep thought that everybody has put into plan B with the hope that we still don't have to go into plan B, but if we do, we've thought of every little detail and um Kate's question kind of helped bring to light everything that you guys have thought of. So, I do hope that when the community gets the wind of it, they look at this meeting and hear all your responses and find out how prepared you are and what really it means if we have to, you know, go through this that we're not taking it lightly and that you guys have been working for months now, the whole team, the whole administrative
027team. And thank you. Thank you for all the hard work, the diligence, for trying to make sure that our kids don't feel the impact of it at all. >> Yeah, I do. I do just want to commend all of you. um you've been very thoughtful in all of your responses and you really have been you've given us a lot of information and I really do think that I encourage everybody to watch this meeting especially the Apple community because um I feel very comforted and I think the community will feel very comforted in hearing all of the answers that you've been able to provide. Um, I like Miss Boris said, you've taken months of time to collaborate and think and really work out the kinks. And I do just really want to commend you all. Thank
028you all for taking the time. And, you know, hopefully we don't need to use it. And I would hate to see it as a wasted effort, but also um, thank you. We appreciate. >> That's okay. Better to be prepared. And we we see it as kind of an adventure, you know, and that's that's how we're going to be, uh, approaching it with our students and our staff as well. >> Yeah. I did chuckle when you said this is very exciting and like oh my god I hope you don't have to go through it but I do understand the excitement between you know behind all the planning but um right hope >> there's a there's a lot more details that obviously if we go down this road the at the parent information evening or the student
029kind of orientation everything from what phone number do I call right so we have plans on how to how parents can get in touch with the school right Applegagarth So all those things we have narrowed down and and planned out. But those are the kind of things that at the parent information night we would share. >> Yes. >> Okay. I guess we're done on item agenda number one. >> Yep. I think I think that you guys are on top of everything and as long as like we share the information with the parents, I think everybody will be fine. U Dr. Raziano is doing a a fabulous job coordinating with her her students and staff and everybody and the parents and I just think this will run smooth either way. I mean hopefully it doesn't at
030least we'll be in a good position. Thank you guys. >> Thank you. >> U Mr. T. >> Okay then. >> Yes >> Mr. T. Just really quick this isn't specific to Applegarth but I know we are discussing like the trailers as a part of that. Um, if I recall, and someone can correct me very wrong, we had budgeted for the potential removal of the trailers for this year. Obviously, we're not going to do that for a while. Um, but are we still potentially looking into doing that this year in the end of, you know, the second half of the year if everything is working out? Um, I believe we only extended October month. Am I right in remembering this? end of October. This extension >> we that is our desire. Best case scenario, the end
031of October would allow during the week of teacher convention, first week of November for the contractor to come in and start breaking them down while the area is vacant. >> So that's best case scenario. >> Okay. >> We're only paying the monthly rent. We're not contracted to any yearly sum of money. Right, Mr. T? There is a budgeted amount for the breakdown and removal of the trailers. >> Right. Right. >> So we are pay we are also paying rent now per month. >> Yes. >> So depending when this happens, >> the board will make a decision on if there are adequate funds to cover the cost and remove them now or delay it to another time. >> Agreed. Agreed. Which is going to be the case. Whenever we remove them, the cost of removal stays
032the same. But by extending it September, October, we're going to be paying I think it's $8,000 or something per month. We're going to continue to pay that to help and and this is the cost of you know the delay that we in our project is is how we're going to have to look at it. >> Correct. >> Right. is I guess I was going to ask if that cost is something that's covered under the grant because it's part of the repair, but I'm sure that the grant has very specific uh things that it's there for. So, >> yeah, there are liquidated damages that the >> the contractor will pay damages for every day that he is late. So, that will help offset some of the cost. >> Oh, great. So, not great, but great. $500
033per day if I remember it correctly. Right. >> Yes. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you, Dr. >> Okay, then move. >> We're good to move along to item two then. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Item two on the agenda is the EIP projects update. The committee members were provided with a progress update schedule. And very simply, we're about 95% done on the building envelope work and lighting work is about 20% done. They've been moving along with that. The other major components, boiler replacements, chillers, etc. are in design. U for example, today I was in a design meeting with their engineering team regarding the boilers. Those, as we know, are longerterm projects which will be taking place next summer due to deliveries, etc. But the lighting work um is in progress and it's saving us money every
034with every bulb that we put in. The solar portion of the project um that is in design and the major component with the solar is that the solar contractor HEP receive interconnection approvals from the utility companies which they have received it for five sites. Woodland, Barkley Brook, Oak Tree, the administration and transportation buildings. The high school and middle school are much larger interconnection and there's a study that they JCPNL requires. This is about a four-month process that is in progress. Um, so the solar piece is moving along as well. Okay, no questions on the east. Yeah, >> just >> very >> um I just had a quick thing. I know you mentioned that the lighting is um definitely on its way. Um I remember one part portion of this was the management controls. Is that
035um something that Oh, bye Dr. Gar. Is that something that we have to wait until that is completed um for them to put that in place or is it I guess um installed and then it's different I guess uh connections are added as they are completed. >> Correct. So that's an ongoing pro that's part of the whole engineering scope with the boilers, the chillers etc. >> Okay. All right. Thank you >> Mr. to take as per the document that you shared nothing is delayed on the schedule yet but everything seems to be TBD on the start date and the end date so just on the on the on the inside you know that everything is going as per because because there's no start date written for anything it's just a little it's a little confusing
036document to understand if I may be honest uh it says everything is on schedule but it doesn't show what the start date is for most of the project. So, I just I just needed some sort of reassurance that we're not just going to suddenly find out that the project is delayed, but that they are determining the start date based on the, you know, completion of something else. So, I don't know how to justify it in my world, but I wanted to get your understanding on why there's a TBD on everything, but yet everything shows on schedule. So they're listing to be determined because they have yet to receive delivery dates for the equipments, the chillers, the boilers etc. So as we know from our own personal experience these last two years uh delivery on these
037components um can be quite extreme as we're experiencing in Alpagarth right now. So they are not committing to those dates until you know they they have everything contracted which they do not and realize that we don't you know our involvement our payments etc don't start until they are done. So we're kind of getting a free ride on the lighting that is done at this point in terms of the savings. Uh but they need to be complete with the project before we start. So, I'm not concerned with the TBD based on all of the work that I've been involved in with them and overseen seeing them doing. I know they're on top of things as I indicated uh I had engineering meetings with them today regarding the boilers etc. Um I can ask them to with
038the next edition of their sk their progress update schedule I can ask them to refine those dates for you. >> Um I do I do appreciate hearing your feedback on that. It is a little reassuring but kind of to you know reiterate what you just said are we don't pay anything till 26th September but then we are banking a lot on the savings and I understand that their TBD is based on you know delivery of equipments and all of that and that's why these projects will never show delayed because they're putting TBD there you know what from a from a project manager's perspective till there's some sort of a set date there they're never going to be late so that's what I'm looking at right now and saying, well, they'll never be behind schedule because
039they've never given us a schedule. But it is reassuring to know that you as the person on the ground is so far, you know, comfortable with the way things are going. But I do want to reiterate that, you know, they're on schedule doesn't mean anything till they put a TBD till they put an actual date in the on the project for me. So I for me on schedule or delayed is the same because I don't they've not promised anything in terms of a timeline. I know there's a general timeline promise. The last page shows that. But it it's just it feels like all of a sudden we'll be told we didn't get it late so we're not rising the energy savings. So all of our calculations are based on you know we'll start paying by
040the time we've had enough energy savings. Um just I just wanted to put a word of caution there. I know you're already on top of it, but um that was my interpretation of the last two months of reading their reports and I wanted to share that. >> Thank you. >> Okay, I will ask I will ask them to address that on their next report. >> Appreciate that. Uh Mr. T, just one quick question. You mentioned the solar component. Um I know that that's there they sort of outsource that if you will or it's handled separately. Um does that get included in regards to their timeline? Like does that need to be finalized before we would have to start repayment or is that a completely separate portion? >> It's a completely separate. So the board is
041not contracted with Honeywell for the solar. We are direct contracted with HESP solar. If you recall, we bid that directly and awarded to them directly. >> Okay, sounds great. And thank you. I know it's um there's a lot going on this summer between everything. So, I definitely appreciate all of the hard work and the answers to all of the questions uh that are being asked. >> Thank you very much. >> Certainly. Okay. If there's no other questions, we'll move on to agenda item number three, which is the lead and water testing. >> Committee members were provided with the supplemental testing results. And you'll see that there were two locations. One sink within the middle school and one sink at the fieldhouse which tested uh slightly above the 15 part per billion action level. I believe
042the fieldhouse tested at 18 parts per billion and the middle school classroom first draw was at 16.2 parts per billion. Uh both of those portable water outlets are out were taken out of service. Our maintenance staff have installed new faucets and filters uh lead and water filters at these locations. We have contracted for retesting. Uh when the retesting results come in, obviously we will share those. These supplemental results are posted on the district web page as required by department of education. We have also submitted all the lab reports and test data to the DOE which they have acknowledged and accepted. Uh so we're in compliance with everything and hope that when we get these next two tests back that everything will be back to status quo. >> Mr. take while the fieldhouse one is no
043concern because it's like a standalone one my out of curiosity because I don't know much about this the the middle school tap right it's >> is it just a short part of the infrastructure that is causing the problem or because there's a lot of taps and they're not too far from each other in in the middle school. So how is it that one is faulty and the others are all dead >> in terms could be that there is Could be that there is some lead solder uh within that faucet. Um the one in question is in a classroom that many years ago when it was the high school was the teacher lounge. So it had a little kitchenet in there. So it's a sink and faucet from 1972. And it's possible that there's some lead
044solder in there that you know leeches in. Um, based on the fact that you did not have readings throughout the rest of the building tells you that service coming in from the street is fine, that you're piping infrastructure up those other potable water outlets is fine and just this one at the faucet is the problem. So that's why we remove the faucet in its entirety, replace with new and kind of belt and suspenders also put a filter on it. Thank you. >> Okay, that concludes that. I don't know if Miss Martyr is on with us tonight for transportation. >> No. >> Okay. >> No. >> Okay. >> Question. >> Um, Adam, do you have an update on uh do we fill any more I can I can share. So, she she uh the last update
045she gave me, she shared that she uh I'm going to pull it up right now. So, she was reporting that um in terms of recruiting drivers, uh she's anticipating an further increase in our in-house driver pool. Um she's been training drivers in-house. We have the ability to do that now. So, she said a bus aid recently completed her training and now holds a CDL license. Um we had another one test on July 3rd and a third one who uh was in the process of taking a CDL written portion of the test. So um she's expanded our in district uh driver training program which um is good in terms of recruitment of our own staff. And then um she did bid routes out. Um, we did it ourselves this time, which avoids the uh middle person
046fee, the paying the uh uh commission for like a serv service or management fee. So, we do have some contracted routes this year. Um, the athletic routes that we traditionally contract, we have those. Um, and there are a small handful of routes uh at the high school that we are um uh contracting out as well. I will verify. I don't have if there's any elementarymentaries. I know the goal was to have no elementary um contracted. So, I have to verify that if she was able to do that with the additional drivers that we brought on. Um that's something I can get back to you before the board meeting on Wednesday. Um >> and that is the most recent update that she gave me. >> Um Dr. Leman, >> I don't know if you I don't
047know if you heard what he said. He said as long as we can get an update in August, that would be great. >> Yep. Yep. Um Dr. Leman, I know that we at one point had talked about the possible pilot for the bus apps um at Milik and Woodland uh or not, not Woodland at Milik. Um and then I'm not sure I forget what happened with that, but then we had discussed the possibility of our own current uh software or vendor being able to do it inhouse. Um and so I I remember like saying we wanted to try to use the schools where it was all uh in district busing. Is there any update on that whether we're going to be able to see that in the near future because I mean it it's you
048know I've been saying it for a while but I know that there's you know there has been the ask for it. I know that there's an additional cost. It's definitely not a must-have type thing. Um but I was just curious if there's any update on whether that's something we might see in the near future. Yeah, in the in this update that she provided me uh a few weeks ago, she said that uh the Mil Lake uh pilot program with that third party bus company um we didn't get that off the ground, but her recommendation from the outset right now is Transfinder is one of the transportation uh pro uh programs we utilize and her recommendation is to use that because it does have a similar functionality, But we already have Transfinder as our bus routing
049software. Um, so her her recommendation would be to explore using that because it's already embedded in what we do. It's already installed on our buses and things. So >> there wouldn't be an extra cost. Is that what she's saying? That there wouldn't be an extra >> No, there'll be an extra cost associated to using it, but we have the Transfinder program. We use that for bus routing already. So Okay. Um, we wouldn't have to sync to something else. if you if you could ask her what that extra cost looks like so that we could compare with this pilot that we were and the pilot was free of cost so it I'm I'm surprised that it didn't take off the ground but it would be good to know what the comparison between the two tools was
050in terms of the extra cost and I'm I'm all in favor of using a a tool that we already have >> y >> uh if the cost is the same but if the cost is more then definitely there's value in exploring the other one and and just to piggyback on Mr. Miss Bratner's question. One of the reasons for the pilot was that we had contracted bus routes that we couldn't do this on. But I think one of the conversations end of the year was that we're going to re-evaluate our bus routes being that Miss Mer is new and we're going to put a fresh perspective on it. Has there been any progress on on that? Because I know by by August we start to finalize and then mid August we start to send out those
051mailers. So, I don't know if you have any updates, Dr. Layman, on whether we revamped anything and if you've been able to shorten it, reduce, you know, the need for contractual buses. Any updates on that, Mr. >> Yeah, there's definitely less less contractors than we typically use. Um, and I'll get you that exact number for the before the Wednesday meeting. Um, how many contracted routes and things. Um, and I think that's also related to we've seen, you know, the population move through the district. um the bubbles have moved into the middle school through the middle school and they still remain in the high school, right? So, um every year buses are they're looked at and filled, you know, and some students buses change here and there. Um but we definitely every year take a fresh
052look at uh you know, at the routing and things. So, I will I will get the exact specifically elementary rout uh contracted numbers because that's where that was the non-traditional area that we contracted. We always tended to have a couple at the high school in our athletic runs as well, but we used to have, I believe, three or four at the high school pretty consistently through the years. Um, and I'll see I'll see where how far into the middle and elementaryaries they go as well. >> Yeah, high school is definitely more tolerable contracted than the elementary for sure. Yes, >> I have no other questions. Thank you. I I would like to know I we met with the company um Moralda and Miss Garcia said that they had everything in motion and we were doing
053it uh April, May and June and now we never did it. >> We It was never done. >> Yeah, it was they didn't they did not uh or it did not get implemented. No. Why though? >> I'll get some details. I'll get some details. Whe I don't know if it's a logistical piece that we had going on if it I don't I don't know the details. >> Okay. All right. Yeah. I'm just curious because when we sat at the meeting, Moralda and that guy apparently said they had coordinate everything and we were going to start it here and Garcia is on board with it and now we're finding out in July that uh it never happened. Like I believe we should have been told it wasn't going to happen. and and also I'd like uh
054Miss Martyr to be at the next meeting so at least she could answer questions. All right. >> Yeah, definitely. Yep. Yeah. And and I'll get some details as to, you know, what the bumps were in the road in terms of or the barriers that ended up, you know, impacting that ability for us to get the uh >> the pilot going. >> Okay. Anybody else have anything? >> No, thank you. >> I'm good. Thank you. >> Yep. >> All right, guys. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. D. Thanks so much, everybody. >> Thanks, everyone. Have a good night. Yep. Have a good one.