001districts seven seven districts combin that team so uh to make that team one other quick thing I going to mention Mr rafie y right so um not necessary announcement but if anybody's noticed we've been one truste like for a few months now um Rafael Flippin has indicated his willingness to or his desire to resign he has had a career change and I believe he's he's moving out of District so um we just have not been able to get together with him to actually receive his letter of recom recommendation excuse me resignation so uh but I felt like this many absences warranted a comment from the board I'm sure we will get that letter of resignation soon I don't want the board to have to vote on a removal because it's just weird and that's not
002really what it is so we want to thank Mr flippin for his Services um for those that don't know the uh the board of education has three options we can appoint somebody we can hold a special election or we can leave the seat bacon and the board has decided on the ladder we leave the seat bacon until the next election um Mr Flippin term ended this year so whoever takes that spot will get a full term it won't be an abbreviated term so just so everybody knows and that's out there felt like it was important to let the community know that so did they miss anything no except that he you know he's now in law enforcement so I want to congratulation on his new post he's had to move Upstate and that's why he's
003out of District so he going to congratulate him publicly he feels badly about his absences but he was pursuing uh his dreams and attended the academy and uh he graduated so he's now working uh Upstate so I wish him well yeah and he let us know that from the very beginning and we just said well don't resign maybe you will because he didn't know where he'd be stationed there was a chance that he would resume his duties but it was really kind of up in the air so they were excused absences now he's indicated that he's not going to be the okay that's it moving on to we have any cards for public commentary I don't think there's any the public here works here all right um budget presentation y you're up can we go
004get those students back so they can watch yeah yeah we wouldn't want them to miss this riveting fun games in this room Mr gig get very offended because you lovees sprad sheets it's all okay je it's edge of your seat stuff I what's GNA happen next all right take care even board members don't want to be here anymore down yeah the old I have homework excuse you're a senior you don't have homework who we kid all right so that brings us to our budget presentation this is our third presentation which we uh basically an expenditure uh review that's the three specific budget lines which is Administration transportation and unallocated again just to go over timeline this is our third budget presentation um scheduled um one of the things I want to emphasize that it's still
005early in the budget process and on April 2nd 202 is when we quietly give our final sort of budget proposal and we we see where we actually land as we keep tipping away at budgeting this com culminates obviously in the budget adaptation on April 23rd with our budget hearing on May 7th and then uh May 20th will be our budget vote and truste election um in between the budget adoption um on April 23rd I will be taking the show on the road and hopefully presenting to our different uh groups and organizations to try to inform them on what our budget contains um again we're in February this is the time we really start looking at Staffing sorry full-time equivalence and looking at program requests you know trying to Deer wants and needs and seeing where
006we land so the essential questions for today is what guides District accounting those are generalized accepted accounting principles um so all of our accounting is based on a nationally normed sort of a procedure what funds are used to pay for our expenditures we'll talk about everything everything comes from the general fund um there's a bit kind of a misconception that we have multiple sort of funds but the general fund contains all the money that we sort of used to cover our revenues I could say cover our expenditures and what do the budget codes mean again I mean the revenue source and the revenue source is always going to be a in large part the function the option and the location um in terms of what expenditures are included in 1,000 code that's Administration that's all
007the sort of uh funds associated with the general Administration and operation of the school district um this does not include teachers and salaries like that this is all administrative costs uh it includes Transportation Transportation includes Transportation a toz Athletics field trips um and the day-to-day transportation that we provide our students and finally what expenditures are included in the 9,000 code unallocated um and those all costs associated with employee entitlements and benit benefits debt payments and governmental obligations so that's um the least glamorous I would say of them all um in terms of administrative um and general uh support basically does include cost or expenditures associated with the Board of Education District Clerk and our annual annual budget vote and election the central Administration which includes my office our supplies and conferences our business office Human
008Resources uh legal and public information that's legal council public relations and related B Services operations and maintenance including staff equipment utilities conferences and bosi services Central planning and data again equipment posage um and then insurance and Associated cost so basically it's basically everything that we do to administer the school district or to run the school district so when we look at a year-to-year analysis we're looking at um uh a pretty uh substantial increase um in terms of our records management that's basically just a correction if you're looking at uh 1460 records management you notice there was Z budgeted in 2425 and there'll be $65,000 budgeted for the subsequent year this is basically to digiti digitize all of our records so in the um event of a natural Calamity and I experien this experiened this in
009my former District we lost a lot of transcripts and public records we're moving so that we digitize everything and sometimes when people um request transcripts from this really happened 1970s and ' 80s it's hard to find those documents and sometimes they've been sort of Aid so we're going to be we're in the process that will be completed next year to digitizing all of our records moving forward documents are already digital uh the increase in security which is 1692 is basically a year-to-year analysis so we're just kind of U updating that line it doesn't necessarily represent additional cost but more like an adjustment so that we look at the actual cost unallocated sorry this is advancing by itself allocated insurance that was a pretty substantial increase uh 1920 and that's because when they made an assessment
010of our property and our assets they came in at a higher value which in turn made our insurance go up by about 23% so those are the most notable increases in this sort of uh section of our budget that I kind of wanted to to highlight um and then I'll summarize exactly what percentage they increase is in a later slide transportation again includes all the budget lines for student transportation costs including the salaries associated with trans Transportation Contract Services uh transportation to our district schools bosis programs special education programs private schools Charter Schools Athletics and field trips when we look at um the various cods within and we summarized it the biggest things that stands out I wanted to point out first let me point out 5510 District transportation are basically the costs associated with
011uh salaries and people who manage Transportation um that is pretty um stable in terms when you look at the year-to-year comparison contract Transportation we're seeing a pretty uh substantial um increase uh this is due to an RFP we're in the RFP process and this Transportation cross is being pretty much Universal across the district because of uh higher expenditures in terms of fuel and bus maintenance bus driver salaries so we're seeing um an anticipated almost 9% increase just in that one um expenditure line Athletics doesn't have that Monumental uh increase uh but this is basically a separate contract uh that could be extended if needed but this represents all transportation to our sporting events for our athletes again if Seasons go longer than anticipated that's when we sometimes contemplate extending it uh but we feel like
012it's pretty uh stable considering the year to year and then field the 5546 is a line where we allocate funds to offset the cost of like rate level trips making it more Equitable for our students in large part this includes our U Middle School trips each grade level does a special trip and so we try to subsidize those trips for our students again to give more students access when you look at the uh increase really the largest uh increase in those lines is the contract Transportation which is our day-to-day Transportation um and which we uh are in the RFB process unallocated is a little harder to understand first it goes over governmental obligations that's Retirement Systems Social Security Medicare tax B workers C and unemployment insurance um employee benefits that include life disability dental health
013insurance Medicare reimbursements insurance opt outs all these things that sort of fall under that and then Debt Service and special Aid um which includes our serial Bond principal interest tax revenue anticipation notes interest and transfers to Food Service fund and special Aid fund that we use to offset uh expenses um the transfer to Food Service fund is that again the governor has proposed Universal free meals for everyone at this point we have it covered by the federal government we don't know what where that's going to be so we still allocate some funds for that when you look at a year-to-year comparison U basically the U largest increase is going to be 9060 which is our health insurance this year we had an unanticipated increase of 5% the year our health insurance costs and it's projected
014that we're going to have an additional 10% increase for the next fiscal year and that when you look at that line 9060 that's the most substantial increase it goes from about 19,000 $19 million in change to $22 million in change so that's another relatively large increase everything else is pretty much within um just the cost of living expenses going up so if you look at these three budget codes um these percentage chains only represent those line items this only represents about 50% of our overall budget and I keep emphas well and the percent change again only applies to those budget lines so when you look at things advancing by itself um like Transportation we're seeing almost a 15% increase which is pretty substantial um and 9,000 which includes the uh health insurance because it's a
015you know larger portion um that's a big pretty substantial um increase on average the last few years when we're at this point in our budget presentations we're looking at somewhere between a 3 and 4% increase increase in these codes so obviously at 7.21 it's u a little bit larger but again I want to emphasize that we're still in the beginning of this process these numbers will change not they may change they will change this is where we're at currently um in our next pre budget presentation we'll be talking about um the uh 200 code which is one of the biggest codes we have that's curriculum uh an instruction we'll see where that lands and then we'll continue this process again with proposing a budget um and a expenses of Revenue update on April um 2nd
016so going back to the tax cap and where we're at um again before we sort of solidify where our tax uh Levy maximum will be we presented the board with two scenarios um scenario a um yields a tax cap of 3.48% again this tax cap is based on an 8 point formula that's mandated by the state it's not something that we have any leeway in um but that tax cap does not include an inter fund transfer to Capital uh if we keep that line in U that raises the tax cap not our proposed tax L but our tax cap to 4.92% that includes a million doll interfund transfer to Capital what that million doll in fund transfer Capital allows us to do is engage in capital work without a capital reserve vote so we can
017do ongoing Capital Improvements which we know we need on an ongoing basis we do have to indicate to the public what we intend to spend a million dollars on so in some ways they do vote on it so I don't want to Mis uh lead the public or the board and saying that you know we're just getting free range to do whatever we want with the million dollars um but that allows us to do it immediately uh should the budget be approved um again clarification tax levy limit does not represent the district's proposed tax levy again we'll have a limit that's either going to be 3.48 or 4.52 um and then we'll continue on the bud process and propose our proposed tax levy at the end of that process um I always like emphasizing this
018the budget process functions independently of the tax levy limit again we need to sort of fund the programs that we need and we feel are important to us and in scenario a if we choose to go in that scenario and not include this transfer to Capital line for a million dollars we also have the option of uh having a capital reserve vote we have about $4 million in our newly established capital reserve that's we can use for Capital Improvements as well so the recommendation from the administration at this point is perhaps to consider scenario a and the capital reserve vote and at this point I want to open it up for discussion uh from our trustees um that kind of concludes my presentation I'll go back to that slide um but again March 5th we'll
019talk about curriculum instruction which is uh an important part of our budget and Then followed by our staffing analysis and then in April 2nd is when we finally give kind of where we're Landing uh with a budget proposal finalized by April 23rd and again the vote will be uh May 7th uh I'm sorry the budget hearing which is sort of a final presentation of the budget and our budget vote and election on uh May 20th so I know we're going to have questions or discussion regarding um this basically are two scenarios that we sort of discuss with the board and I want to open it up to questions or discussion yes just a quick question which is kind of basic and I should probably know the answer to uh given scenario a and scenario B
020that is the anticipated tax cap uh does that mean that the tax levy under scenario B will necessarily be higher than the tax levy under scenario a or not yeah it does 3.48 versus 4.92 no but that's that's the tax cap I'm talking about what the ultimate tax levy is got it Bas our looking the question um yeah so so what you're recommending is that we go with scenario a avoid the transfer of capital and go with the lower anticipated tax cap correct and I at this point and I would recommend uh a proposition to use our Capital reserves right because we we don't want to give up on continual Capital Improvements um I think they're much needed I do think we need to get into a discussion about a bond you know our buildings
021are you know aging and they're not aging well um so over the last couple years I'm proud of the work we've done so far we've passed two capital reserve votes that amount to about $6 Million worth of capital work that thankfully we'll be breaking ground in sever of those projects this summer um our first um in transfer to Capital line uh yield did some work as well um and our last Capital transfer Capital line basically allowed us to do um some of the auditorium Renovations that we're hoping to break around in the summer to have complete for next year um we're also doing the energy performance contract we're very close to finalizing that that's about $9 million worth of work so we are engaging in capital um work um still in the plot owning process
022but as soon as we start breaking ground you know the hope that not only do our buildings and Facilities get better and the update updates that they need we'll start generating building Aid and the reason we're sort of you know having to manage Financial challenges is because we've lost a lot of that building Aid um we we want to start generating some more Aid as well thank you so I wanted to ask a question also uh so you know in terms of scenario a and scenario B uh how does that affect our um our situation in terms of next the next year's uh fiscal um or next year's uh tax cap and um as well so that's a great question um it's hard to say because we don't know where we're going to r with
023like state aid um and where the formula going to be um so it's hard for me to answer the question so basically when you add the million dollar transfer interfund transfer to Capital line it doesn't allow us to spend more money on operations that's totally dedicated to Capital Improvements so you know the base is increased when you have a bigger base you know then the levy is sort of you know and I don't want to like you know Miss word because I haven't done the math um but it's hard to anticipate where we're going to be based upon a lot of factors so you just add to that point just one second so are you saying then that if we went for the $44.92 and we had the million dollar in the transferred Capital fund
024right you're saying that next year that million dollars is not on top of our budget where our increase will be right you're saying that I thought you said to me today that is netted out of next year's Levy I don't think it is I don't think so either that's why I'm confused what I'm trying to say is and I think what I think what Joe's getting at is and I've felt and where I've had this conversation with you is as much as it's painful to have the higher Levy right we're not breaching the cap okay we're not looking for a 60 point we're not overall this is our Levy so if we do not put the extra million dollars in for the Capital Improvements right next year's budget is built off the the smaller number
025if it's in there we're building off an extra million dollars so my point is and like I said before because a couple of years ago when we F when the when the when the budget clip was highlighted okay I didn't agree with it but the administration put a number out to the to the to the media which was a smaller number and I don't like raising taxes on anybody any more than anybody else's I it affects me too right I don't like paying them and everything else but if people are going to come into our schools and say we need these improvements and why does the bathrooms look like this and why doesn't the field have this and why is the track need to be replaced why was the turfield the way it is we
026have people understand we have to spend money to do that so if we go go to$ 4.92 and the million dollars is in there it's money that the taxpayers are going to have to put into this District at some point in the future anyway whether it's through a bond and or it's or it's right now so I personally believe that if we have a conversation with the community and we have clear-cut communications there's no reason we can't get a 4.92 approved right and I think if we explain what it's for and how it's being used and it's not just paying people we're not just we're not just spending these are Capital Improvements and it needs to happen our buildings are falling apart and we're holding certain things together and we I think we all understand
027that and it's a a c the second part of what I was trying to say not only that those projects can also be stay aable that will benefited Us in the longer run and it's a smarter use of our money you know from that standpoint so and it puts our puts our floor up so we're building off of that each year as opposed to undercutting ourselves right right now which is what happened under the last budget that Dr under Dr Giani where it came in low and again it you know we don't anticipate piercing any cap so but again the reluctance from us is again is just a tax levy that might be an outlier that's why I want to and explain exactly what they represent and let let's face it it Al also comes
028down to receiving Less in aid from the state uh so you know there is also that support that I believe our community is aware of uh that is a challenge that is out there as well so yeah so but I'm thinking too to make a recommendation about scenario A or B right now I think is premature because we haven't heard yet what what we're going to need for our teaching staff well this is a correction we need to submit it by March 1st go to the state Friday yes uh yeah that's why just it's timely and I we have to make this decision tonight as a board 3.48 or four or 4.9 but if we if we made the decision tonight let's say scenario B can we change our mind later Friday no unless we're
029having an emergency meeting no I mean you've got a deadline for reporting to the state so the question what if when we finish the budget we say we we don't want the 4.92 we want something different can we change it let me uh point a clarification so the point 4.2 just represents the cap not the lby um the issue is that for that cap to exist the million dollars has to be in there so that we can't to remove the million dollar transfer Capital line why wouldn't we put it in now for reporting to the state we'll get our get our report next week about teaching and learning and then you'll be able to give us a followup about recommendation about what it's really going to take to run the district and if we don't
030need it all we don't need it all but we've already covered ourselves by having it reported to the state that would be the maximum that we're looking to go to we can always the whole thing is I mean correct me if I'm wrong I may be these are capital things that are not affected by no that part is true however until we see the entire picture I don't think we're in a position to decide between the two I would air on I see it as airing on the side of caution of putting scenario B in for purposes of reporting to the state good question if we reported at the at scenario B by Friday can we change our mind and go back to a at a later date I don't immediately know the answer to
031that question I don't know am H not off the top of my head I I believe what you report is your good rep to State yeah I can't imagine anybody's going to yell at you for reporting for actually going out less but I think we could tackle that I I'd really like to hear and get the temperature from the board and I think I have understanding on how few how they feel about scenario a versus scenario B can I just ask one question before your yeah and I know if Mr G has the answer to the question can the transfer Capital line be removed after we submit the tax cap to the state I have to look into that I don't know if we can change the tax L limit once I submit it I
032have to look into that that's what that's what we think we need to find out but if even if we can't change the limit can we not then change the budget The Levy right right what I'm saying if we've got our cap at whatever it is 4.6 I just lost the um if we've got our cap at that and and we include this transfer of capital the million dollar transfer of capital and we've got our cap at the higher number can we not after looking at the specifics that an was talking about about Staffing Etc can we not then determine that we that our Levy can actually be lower than expected theoretically yes based and increased costs y probably not okay my feeling right now inclination is if we go with scenario B we're going
033to be proposing a tax labor that's going to be close to that 4.9% got and it's a hard decision listen it's tough decision but like I said if you really look at the history and with careful communication and conversation with with with the public I think people should be reasonable and understand again whatever the levy is really kind of determines what it really means to everybody's wallet at the end of the day so I don't know does anybody else have any comments they want to make on on you know scenario a versus scenario B where you're leaning what you'd prefer to do because we need to make this decision tonight yeah I'm I'm leaning toward scenario b b yeah I'm on B too yeah those three reasons are without a doubt the reason why you're
034for B right I'm for B Miss Fel you your was you were B yes okay I'm I'm less likely to go with B I'm I'm okay with B if we don't end up right at B and we let we end up with something less than B I'm okay with B is if if we can come in less than b because the scenario that's out there right now we don't we don't don't know where we're going to end up with all the other taxes that are out there right now everybody is very sensitive to where where we're going to come in with what kind of taxes that are um that we're going to be faced with with the price of gas with the price of with the price of groceries everybody is very sensitive to the
035cost of living right now and we don't need to add to that um the uh the newsletter that we started producing hit the mailboxes today so I think that's going to be well received and I think that's a step in the right direction the communication right that uh that we um missed out on last year so um I was happy I was happy to see that and I think it's going to present for good communication but I got to tell you I'm really I'm really concerned about go going anything towards 5% you know 4.92 uh you know several years ago we were we have we we were in you know we had that other higher number it was very concerning when I when you first talked about the 3.48 you know as in s in
036um a I was comfortable with that number and I thought that number would easily sell I'm not so sure about that about the other but as long as we can go something lower than that I think I think that would be more palatable and in response to that you remember scenario B doesn't give us that much wiggle r because the the increase in percentage is the million dollars the difference between the trans it's not and that's not we can't play with that if that's approved we can't use a higher tax levy to for example Finance our operations so that's a concern so it's um so it's going to be in in the force I can pretty confidently say the tax levy that will so then you're not really accomplishing much more with with um scenario
037B but for that million doll Capital work and to not take it out of the capital reserve fund which is going to be money that's my thing that million dollars is going to come from the taxpayers either now or in a bigger Bond at some point in the future or next year the capital reserve a vote or a budget or whatever else it is I if we're able to go up to that point without breaching the cap then I'm for it I understand it's going to take careful and I I get all of what you're saying F I really do it it's it's not easy right now but who knows what's coming I do want to hear from Mr Lila though on your thoughts on it I'm leaning towards B I mean the money has
038to has to be there and as much as I don't want to do anything with raising taxes schools need it and need that flexibility to have that million dolls to keep the projects that we have going going and if we continue to push it down the road and and again I I agree with Mr Barry where it's concerned if we do not address it now it's just going to hit bigger in future years and I you know I I so I think we have consensus that in scenario B right what is it what do you have year marked for that million dollars do you have anything in Marked for already we're looking at um you know are and I hate you know it's not all about Athletics but our track is it's getting almost to
039the point where it's unsafe to use um we're looking at creating a space for our life skill students at the high school that's more appropriate for their program right now they're just going to kind of uh kind M Mar in the classroom that we make it work um the idea of perhaps uh improving some of our science classrooms those those are things that we have sort of a cont M at this point when is the auditorium getting done so it's up in the PE again our expectation is to break down break ground in uh late summer but to have it complete by the winter is a useful use the term because it does appear to be a breakdown that aitor listen that's also that is a legislative priority every year with the aisy groups more
040so this year than I've seen in years past is to in some way get the state to do something to speed up the approval process one of the things also it's getting pretty bad working on is what is the impact on the average household and so that's hard to like it's really complicated because when you look at the impact it's based on your assessed value of your not your market value but your assessed value come up with that will you able to come up with that we looked at certain preliminary numbers based on like a a a $500,000 house has an assess value of $3,000 I have no idea how that works um but that's basically assess value so in that scenario the difference between for someone who may own a $500,000 house again assess
041value not I'm sorry 300 $3,000 assess value that's generally we picked like a $500,000 sort of market value as an example the diff annually the difference is somewhere between $90 and 3.48 scenario or $130 annually and the 4. about $40 a year for the average size home in the community the difference per per thousand huh is it per thousand or is that per thousand that's I'm sorry that's per thousand of your set value correct so for a $500,000 house it's it's um $120 thou $120 increase per year you just said that was if it's 3,000 yeah yeah which you just said was on a $500,000 house on $500,000 house your increase in school taxes the difference is going to be $120 a year correct $10 a month between those two between the two the difference
042between scenario a and scenario B is $120 annually increase if your home is assessed roughly $500,000 looking initially at our numbers cor when you say per 1,000 that means for 3,000 it's triple that number yeah yeah that's what I just did right you said 90 time three would be no no it's not 90 it's 40 time three because it's the difference between a and b is $40 right I'm sorry we're talking about the difference scenario A to B B costs a $500,000 an average home of $500,000 $120 a year that's the difference more than scenario difference between get very no $40 time 3 because the the the assessed value is $3,000 on a $500,000 house the cost per $1,000 is $87 for scenario a $126 for scenario B per thousand so you have to multiply
043that by three and an assessed value is $3,000 on a $500,000 house so so so let's just do do the cost then scenario B is how much of an increase per year for $500,000 house $360 $360 okay um do we know the average um assessed value of a home in our district we did not at this point just curious I didn't think you knew it we should have those num low seems low for the immediate area might different houses I mean there were many that were around $3,000 meaning their home value was $500,000 500 or six like so 3,000 it could be 33100 you know in yeah no understood but we're we're still saying that $500,000 house is still $3,000 right so 600,000 a little a little that's what I'm trying to figure out is
044is the average home value in our community 300,000 is it 700 I'm just that's what I'm trying to get at you know and and that kind of matters in the conversation I would be willing to guess that it is somewhere between 4 and 500,000 right based on real estate right now I would have to think I think four is is conservative I think five is is probably a little high I don't know if you'd average it depends on there's a lot of factors well honestly this a this is exactly that's why I asked the question if we knew it because it is very unique right there's $10 million mansions on the water and and you know and that's why that's the danger of working in averages because the averages don't really point you know cuz
045you have outliers we really need you know we really need to concern ourself with the average of our voters right which you know who's in school who's who's here and and things like that so and that's who and I'm concern and and listen the concern for raising taxes on on lower income families is really where I'm really more concerned but when we look at scenario A to B it only shrinks as the home value goes down as to what that difference really is so it's not it's not $120 a year for somebody who's in a house that's assessed AT3 00,000 it's less so and when we start talking about those numbers in my opinion it gets a little bit more manageable when you look at the increases that we're faced with every day that are
046different like if my oil cost only went up $120 this year I'd be pretty happy okay but it's probably going up that a month right so anyway okay so you have consensus at scenario B nobody wants to raise taxes but it's unpopular thing I I hate to do it but like I think we also want to have this District running in tiptop shape if we can get it there and the differ is Capital Improvements right that are desperately needed as well corre there's a lot of yeah there's things that need a lot of uh use a euphemism TLC L care and bond planning needs to start on May 21st absolutely like I don't think we can really just you know avoid the conversation and start the process because think talking about it for too long
047yeah well I mean I think Co disrupted disrupted it obviously that was the time to do it and then the budget cliff and the realization of what happened during that that you know that and it's going to be hard but I think the challeng is to this board this Administration is how do we have better and clearer communication with our community on this because if people are upset they're not coming to the board meeting we know that nobody comes and listen to the board presentations the budget presentations they're the least attended uh meetings of the year right who's going to let us come talk to them how are we going to do do that how are we going to invite people in differently do we do a workshop you know on on a Saturday at
048some point in the next month or two and try to answer questions and have a talent I don't know what the answer is but I think that's going to be a big undertaking if this is so along those lines I think we have to be very aggressive when we do our budget Road shows I think a month from now still early in the process I think once we adapt the budget we really have to do our due diligence and try to reach out to every Civic organization um we need to start reaching out sooner than when we're done though making his appointments now but make the appointments now and say who wants to see you know can we go on a Saturday afternoon to the Middle School auditorium or the boys and girls club and
049say hey come in here's here's a cup of coffee in a bagel let's talk budgeting let's let you understand what's happening and why this is I mean we really need to see what the reaction is for the community we may have support right off the bat my feeling is as long as we're not breaching the cap right I don't think it's I really think there's going to be a couple of murmurs but I think it'll be over at that point but I do think those meeting should happen after we adopt the final budget the conversation should happen I'm just saying schedule it sooner than later before people no I would want to schedule it now for dat in April so that at least we know we all know the dates they're up there on every
050budget presentation it's March so you know yeah we got to start okay um does anybody have any other questions I have two specific questions if um the first one I did want to understand on the first slide early on what what is driving I know you said security was year-to-year comparison but it's a little I don't know what what is it is it people do we need is it overtime is it salaries it's it's more people and a more accurate um sort of uh budgeting for what our security costs have been we've been looking at it the last two years we've been doing some transfers there so this higher number is a better uh accurate representation of people it's not necessarily overtime it's just so you're saying we've been under budgeting this line or going
051too close to it uh under budgeting I would say okay which line security which was in 1622 on slide 6 I if we need more security we need more security I just it's 20% jump in a big line that like I don't know a lot of year security always comes up right we've cut we've added you know what do we really need and you know if we needed it what's happening now that it's detrimental that we need more like are we not getting coverage do are we having issues with lack of security so we're not adding security this is more a budgetary adjustment versus adding additional expenses because we didn't budget enough for the salaries of who we have correct okay got it no understood I just but we did that a while ago that's
052this is to reallocate and get salaries to be right comparable really with other districts no no it's our own budgeting we didn't budget sufficiently for it we're just adjusting it so it's more accurate um the other question I have was on the district Transportation line that there was an increase in that was uh slide 8 1510 how many people does does that number Encompass those are like bus monitors those uh anybody oh that's okay I thought that was like District staff there's also a portion of Mr G salary aable so we take a portion of that salary got it so that's why I was going to ask that question so a portion of this is for your salary but it also includes the the bus monitors and such like that it's not our people in
053central office that manage the bus company outside of misse because it's a thank you so we take a portion of Sal all this by the way is in the detail that we gave to you in the update so what we did just for in terms of brevity we this is basically the main ideas but and I'll share the uh detail again to in tomorrow's update but that's broken line by line so you see exactly what it is got it and then um the the transportation increase of you know million 6 million 7 whatever that number is what is the what is the bus company telling us is the reason for the increase overall increas is in expenditure some school districts are looking at 20% increases that's um it's something that's kind of ramped up across
054the island has nothing to do with electric buses I don't believe no no I understand that but they giving us a reason saying you're going up because fuel cost you know salaries uh Insurance maintenance are they giving you a reason for that cuz that's a big jump now it's still early in the process so we have a consultant actually looking at it um and working with us so that we can respond to the initial estimates we don't know if we're going to land there that again can change but that's what we're guessing it's going to be because I I don't know I and I think we talked about it I've been so I've been for the most part satisfied with the bus company compared to some of the issues we've had in years past we
055certainly don't hear issues about them right that seem they're doing a good job but that's a big jump right that's I don't know so it's over 10% it's almost 15% right so what is it 9% it's it's more than 9% yeah it's yeah so um that's a big jump that's got to be justified in my opinion to understand I get things are going up but things you know aren't not everything's going up 10 15 20% right things are going up 2 3 4 5% whatever else it is so that's that's kind of big and I'd like to understand what it is because it was funny because I I pick up every day at the at the high school and my daughter actually said she look at those buses man there's nobody on and and and
056I know how we have to budget I we have there's a certain amount a number of buses but maybe we need to start talking about combining routes if that's the case cuz we pay for that's what the consultant's looking at combining routes we're also using uh more small buses for special needs kids we had a pretty sizable increase in the use of the mini buses um which are just as costly as the big buses um but what we'll do is we'll put together a sort of like a report to provide the board that kind of Chronicles what what the increase represents and finally what is in our contract don't we have like is aren't the increases year toe in the contract the percentages well the contract expired so it's for 5 years so now we
057had to go out for an RFP so this is the new okay so I missed that part I didn't realize that when when our contract's over so we're getting a new contract now so we went out for RFP so that's where we're at am I the only one that didn't know we went out for an RFP for busing I didn't know that I did know that but I don't know how I just got my email that's kind of a big one right here yeah no I get it here I know I read but prior to tonight like I I didn't know that so what you know so is this number and I'm sorry I'm dragging this now because now I have more questions that because I didn't know we run an RFP for it is
058this the same company's bid yeah and they were they were the lowest bid amongst I mean how many bids did we get the only bid bid fixing is rampant and we were very unhappy um with like sort of cross Contracting with M bus company um we just had a lot of problems but really town is the best option again I think they've you know their service has been good in in some of the issues we've had in the past but listen if I'm the salesperson on this account too I certainly start adding things with my pencil too at at if they're the only bidder and that's why we're working with a K with consultant consultant going to tell you they can charge whatever they want they're the only one that bid no but I think
059we we sort of it out and we try to reduce where we can get R if that's if that's the case like I I would I would like to you know I'd love to see I can't wait to see the Consultants report I would like to explore you know um combining routes if we're if our ridership really is that low and maybe I'm wrong maybe it's not the problem with a ridership is you have to provide routes for everybody's eligible fors nood comes out no no no I I know that we have to do that but you know just look at the issue look what William Floyd did a couple years ago which basically put mon East out of business but you know they they combined routes if the kids aren't on whatever I I
060just that's a big jump and of course it's going to be a big jump because there's no competition right they can charge whatever they want so and I know we briefly talked about this and I know this is a real Pandora's box but maybe we got to start talking about doing little buses ourselves that would be an exorbitant cost it' be a huge Bond I get it but it's also the maintenance no listen I get it all can I ask the question how long is this uh RFP contract five years well you can renew it you can extend it up to five years so this would be this would be year one we haven't put forth to the board yet to the to approve it no I know but um you know does that impact
061the state uh I forget what they called them but the electric buses no no a they I was going to say are they leaning toward that because what is the year on that it's not5 we're not doing electric buses no but I no but you bring up a point I get it but like if year two or three of this contract they have to all of a sudden start buying electric buses our rate is going to go up or is it going to be locked in for five years we have the rate for each year we have a rate set a contract there's nothing in the contract on there and that talks about electric buses I I'll double check I like the comp they're going to go bankrupt that because that's the next thing right
062if they have to go out and start spending you know Millions upon millions of dollars for buses again it's I with all the legislative push against the bus mandate I I don't know that that's going to happen okay before we move off the um the budget I'm I'm just not satisfied with the understanding of the assessed value so could we have something in writing to show yeah all right I I need a better explanation of uh just what the levy and the tax cap um represents okay he says properties and assets or the tax just what it's going to just what it's going to translate to the taxpayer on what we adopt what we adopt when we adopt it the impact on the taxpayer yeah on each home based it has to be based on
063an average or we could get understood that's fine but what is that we need to figure so I would like to know what that is to chery point and and if we can get the average value of a home in our community I would like to know that but it's not par if it's that's how they come up with the average impact on the taxpayer I just need to see it I need it visually not just told to us okay when we had this discussion a few years ago I thought that was something you got through the tax assessor's office it is it's also on your tax bill your assess value is on your tax bill yeah so you can you can see but they but it's the tax assessor that f it out and
064figures out what the average cost is so they give us a total they give you a total mhm and then you come up with the average they come up with the average they give us the total all right so this is going to do a a recap we're going to do try to figure out average cost of our houses in our community we provide some details of the RFP and what there's what not indicating the increases in costs are um those are two major things I have an easy question sure you've got digitizing Student Records in there what about District documents in general like contracts and things like that are do we need to have that all digitized as well I'm not sure that's a great question I can't immediately answer that question you know
065we have so many digital copies of contracts now not the sign contracts but obviously the when we draft things we communicate via email so um I'll look into it any other questions thank you board have any issue with me taking the next three sections together as an OM the buus not in the least wonderful idea thank you uh I know handing on personel all right personel agenda was kind of inous look over the next three sections I can make it this time of year it always is proper recommendation I seem to always mess up this recommendation okay the what you can do it I'm going to try to do this omnius I like your term recommendation so it's not my term it's in the dictionary oh I'm sure Christ made so all right so glasses
066home so we're looking for G G so the administration recommends approval of curriculum items reflected in schedules G1 through G3 Personnel changes reflected in schedules H1 through h8 and business items reflected in schedules i1 through I6 can I have a motion Miss Fise seconded by Mr Barry any discussion see none all those in favor motion carries unanimously uh any more cards anybody have closing remarks I do today is Beth Doyle's last board meeting so wish you well we're not clapping because we're happy to see you go any blessings to you in your new role yeah we'll miss you it's coming up right fourth is your first day yeah next week fifth so the fourth your list got it okay uh without further Ado a motion to adjourn Miss Cavanaugh seconded by Mr Barry all those
067in favor we stand a journ thank you everybody have a nice night