001order the regular session of the new Kent County School Board July 15 2025. For the record, all board members are present and prior to the closed session. The board voted unanimously to allow Mr. Vault to participate remotely due to exigent circumstances. Mr. V vote is on the auditory device here on the table with us. Do I hear a motion to come out of close session? Motion to come out of close session. >> Mr. Rhymer has the motion. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Mr. Broski has the second. Miss Davis, please pull the board. >> Mr. Rhymer, >> I. >> Mr. B. >> I. >> Mr. Broski. >> I. >> Miss Kunan. >> I. >> And Mr. Kagano. >> I. Motion passes 5. We are now out of close session. Mr. Rhymer, could you
002please read the certification? Whereas section 2-2-3711 [Music] of the code of Virginia requires a certification by the New Kent County School Board that such closed meeting was conducted in conformity with Virginia law. Now, therefore, be it resolved that the New Kent County School Board hereby certifies that to the best of each member's knowledge, only public business matters lawfully exempted from open meeting requirement by Virginia law were discussed in closed meeting to which this certification resolution applies. And only such public business matters as were identified in the motion convening the closed meeting were discussed or considered by the new Kent County School Board. >> Thank you, Mr. Rhymer. Expertly handled. Do I hear a motion to approve the certification and close session? >> So moved. >> Uh we have a joint motion by the ladies. So
003Miss Kuna has the first, Mr. Mosski has the second. Miss Davis, please pull the board. >> Mr. Mr. Rhymer. >> Hi, >> Mr. Dumbroski. >> Hi, >> Miss Kuna. >> Hi, >> Mr. Vaugh. >> I >> and Mr. Pagano. >> I All right. Certification has been approved unanimously. Please rise and join for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> All right, everybody. First item on tonight's agenda is presentations, recognitions, andor school spotlights. I have that privilege tonight. Um, New Kent Schools will have their first school board representative this coming year. Out of three candidates, New Kent High School rising junior Toby Davis has been selected as
004the student school board representative and will serve during the 2526 school year. All three candidates brought strong qualities to the table, making this decision a difficult one. Miss Kuna and I along with Dr. Nichols and Principal Strickland interviewed these students. It was an amazing process. Mr. Davis stood out because of his thoughtful approach, clear communication, an evident commitment to student advocacy. He demonstrated a strong mix of qualities that we as a board were looking for. Leadership, empathy, and a willingness to listen and engage constructively. Toby is a member of cross country, track, and boys tennis teams. He's a member of the jazz band where he plays trumpet. He served in leadership roles in Beta, cross country, and the marching band. He received multiple achievements in beta and band. And outside of school, he serves as
005the media director at his church. He is a student at Chesapeake Bay Governor School and maintains a 4.3125 GPA, which is a nice way of saying the kid's a rockstar. We're excited to have him in this important role and look forward to his perspective and energy. and we're confident he'll represent his fellow students with integrity, insight, and dedication. So, congratulations to Mr. Davis who uh was unable to make it be here with us tonight. The next item is consent agenda. Board members, by now you've had the opportunity to review the items listed on the consent agenda, including minute meetings from various work sessions as listed in the agenda, as well as the superintendent's recommendations regarding personnel matters. Do I hear a motion to approve the consent agenda as presented? >> Motion to approve. >> Mr.
006Rhymer has the motion. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Mr. VA has a second. Miss Davis, please pull the board. >> Mr. Rhyme, >> I. >> Mr. Broki, >> I have a question. >> Um, you indicated there were several minutes from the work session. The last time I looked, there were just the minutes from the May 5th on the agenda. They're there now >> into four talks. >> For which months? I didn't see them this afternoon. >> February work session, March work session, and the regular session. >> I did not have the chance to I only had the chance to read the May session as they were the ones on there as of this afternoon when I checked. >> So, I think at this point you can vote to approve, deny, or abstain
007>> as a whole, >> right? Okay. >> I deny because I didn't get I didn't see the other I didn't see the F. I only saw the May ones. So, I don't feel comfortable approving something I haven't reviewed yet. >> Okay. Mr. Vault, did you have trouble seeing any of the minutes posted on the agenda? Sir, >> did not. >> Okay. Mr. Rhyr, did you have any issues? I read them late, so they were up there. >> Okay. Um, I think at this point we are going to table this motion. And >> you want to just do the superintendent's recommended personnel? >> Yes, that's fine. We we can bifrocate the motion, but what I'm referencing, of course, is the >> the meeting minutes from the regular and the work sessions until everybody's on the same
008page and has the opportunity to review them all. >> Mr. Chair, can I make just a clarify so Miss Davis on the same page? So what you what you would like to do is or the motion would shift to approving consent agenda without B minutes. Is that >> correct? >> I'm okay with that. >> Correct. So the approval would include the monthly financials for the June of 2025 and the superintendent's recommendations regarding personnel matters. All items regarding meeting minutes or table. >> I can I can >> All right. So that's my motion. Do we have a second? >> Second to the amended motion. >> All right. So, we're voting now on my motion to amend the consent agenda that's being approved tonight. Miss Davis, please pull the board. >> Mr. Rhymer, >> I. >> Miss
009Dumbroski, >> I. >> Uh, Miss Kuna, >> I. >> Mr. Bad, >> I. >> And Mr. Pagano, >> I. All right. So, that motion passes unanimously. We are not voting on the meeting minutes at all. So now we'll redo the motion for the consent agenda which is now limited to the monthly financials and the superintendent's recommendations. Do I have a motion to approve those two items? >> So moved. >> Miss Kuna has the motion. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Mr. Rhymer has a second. Miss Davis, please pull the board again. >> Mr. Rhymer. >> I. >> Miss Dumbroski. >> I. >> Miss Kuna. >> I. >> Mr. Bot. >> I. >> And Mr. Pagano. >> I. All right. So, the consent agenda items as amended uh have passed unanimously. All right. Moving
010on to new business. 2025 2026 VSBA annual membership. Dr. Nichols. >> Yes, sir. Board members, what you have in front of you is our annual VSBA membership dues. Um, and the dues total just over there it is uh $7,341. It is calculated for every school division based on your total expenditures for operations. Uh I strongly recommend that we continue uh with this organization. 125 out of 131 school divisions in the state of Virginia utilize the Virginia School Board Association. We rely on them heavily as a small school district. Um they provide training for Miss Davis. Um it's interesting when you look at this agenda tonight board members because our partnership and work with the SBA is threaded throughout it. The student school board representative which I was a part of along with uh Miss Dumbroski
011really leading that um had a lot of support from resources through the Virginia school board association. You'll have a media honor role coming your way. Not to tip my hat on the next agenda item and then you'll also be talking later about um superintendent evaluation. So they provide a wealth of resources. We have contacted them four times in the past three weeks for legal support related to policy services which does not come to which we're not build at for an hourly rate as we would if we contacted our attorney. Um quite simply board members I don't know how I would be able to lead as superintendent without the support I have and I have used this whether it's Gina Patterson the executive director Sam Boserman JT Kesler um we get updates all the time and
012if I have a question about helping our board and board governance or policy I have access to 125 other school boards um and and how they do it um and it's just been an incredible incredible partnership. So, um that is my recommendation to the board uh to continue with the Virginia school boards decision. >> All right. Thank you, Dr. Nichols. Mr. Vault, do you have any questions or comments, sir? >> I have none. No. >> Thank you, Miss Kuna. >> Um I believe that we should uh continue with the SBA uh at this time because they do provide those services. However, I do want to go on the record by saying that I do have some reservations about VSBA. Um, they've been the only game in town for the past hundred years and um they
013are a large lobbyist organization. Uh, I think that sometimes that is in conflict with the fact that the dues that we pay this organization come from taxpayers in our community and those taxpayers don't always agree with the policies or stances that they're lobbying for. And so we're not only representing the public school, we're also representing other members of the community that maybe homeschooled their children or uh have their children in alternative uh forms of schooling. So there's a little conflict there. Uh the other apprehension that I have is that uh I've attended their workshops uh professional development um and sometimes they're really lacking as far as uh content and you know usability but uh I did use them for the superintendent evaluation uh process that I'm working on as well as other organizations that I
014am me a member of SBMA being one of them and recently ly school boards for academic excellence. So there are other uh organizations out there that can help school board members specifically do their job. Our job is very different than the job of the superintendent and other members of the school division. And so we need special training to equip us um to the best of our ability to do our job as far as governance and oversight. But I do agree that at the time there isn't any other viable alternative that can provide the services that we need as a small school division. So I do agree that we should stay with the SBA. >> Thank you, Miss Kuna. Mr. Dumbroski. >> Uh yeah, this is something that I've given a lot of thought and consideration
015to over the past several months. So, I have decided to write down my thoughts and read them just to stay as clear and concise as possible and so that my nerves don't flip my brain into the opposition. Um, I believe in thoughtful oversight particularly when it comes to budget and spending. It's um oversight is one of our key responsibilities as a school board member. As schoolboard members, I firmly believe that transparency and accountability must be at the heart of everything that we do. So when $7,34110 may appear small within the context of a multi-million dollar budget, I know that even the smallest amounts can make a difference towards improving improving student achievement. And I believe it's important to evaluate all our expenditures of all sizes to ensure that they represent the most responsible and effective
016use of public funds, particularly given that a significant portion of our funds comes from new tax dollars. So, I've taken some time to ask questions and dig into this issue as thoroughly as I could. Uh, being a small school division, I recognize that we often have to navigate a lot of challenges that larger school divisions have more resources to deal with. And after speaking with Dr. Nichols and Miss Davis, I can certainly understand and value the support that they receive from the BSBA. In this case, I can completely understand how retaining our membership and paying this fee is a necessary part of maintaining the effectiveness and progress of our school system. One particular concern that I have regards a 2023 lawsuit that was filed against them and is ongoing. uh was filed by handover parent
017after the DSBA refused to provide financial basic financial records. And in reaching out to one of the lawyers in this case, he advised the trial is now in 2025, a couple of months from probably going to court where they will determine if the BSBA is a public body and must comply with foyer requirements. So for me it's concerning to know that a public entity that is funded by tax dollar payer taxpayer dollars is using resources and time to provide a foyer request pertaining to financial transparency. My personal belief is that when public funds are involved, accountability and openness aren't just important, they're essential. This isn't just about the money. It's about insuring trust. Um, that being said, I want to bring up another matter that I hope the board can um recognize and a request
018to consider. In my research, I learned that the BSBA defines itself as a policy-driven association and one that sign it in invests significant time and financial resources towards lobbying efforts focused on education related legislation. Their lobbying efforts are guided by the VSBA's legislative positions. These positions are formally adopted by the VSBA delegate assembly, which is a body composed of one representative from each of the Virginia school boards who pay to be members of VSBA. By default, if our board does not elect or repoint a representative to attend the VSBA delegate assembly, it falls to the chair to serve as our delegate with the vice chair as the alternate. Delegates are expected to review the legislative priorities provided in the BSBA handbook, discuss them with their local boards and represent their division's views during the delegate
019assembly held in November during the BSBA's annual summit. Since our election to the board, we have not appointed a representative to serve as our BSBA delegate. Consequently, new county has lacked representation within an organization that in part is using public funds to advocate for education policies without any direct input from new in shaping those positions. I believe this represents a gap in our governance responsibilities that warrants attention. If we're going to continue our membership of BASBA, then I respectfully request three things. that we appoint a board member to actively serve as our division's representative to the VSBA delegate assembly, that we appoint a second board member to serve as the alternate, and that as a board we hold a work session following the release of the BSBA's 2025 legislative position handbook to review the proposed
020legislative priorities and to collectively establish new Kent County Public School stance on each policy. policy would that appoint appointed representative when then will then carry forward to the delegate assembly in November. I appreciate you allowing me time to con to uh present my thoughts and I'd appreciate in consideration with the suggestions I brought forward. >> Mr. Rhymer, >> ours is a world sweets and soursion. >> Concise my friend. Um, I'm also going to be concise at at this juncture in time. And the SBA has been around 100 years for a reason. 125 of 131 school boards use them for a reason. The cost represents 0.00001% of our annual budget. I have heard countless requests, I wouldn't even say demand, but emphatic requests from people in our administration, teachers who have reached out to me directly
021in support of the use of VSBA. So, you know, can things be better? Think things can always be better, but when we're making a decision like this about renewing a membership, terminating a membership, traveling a new course with a different company, the question becomes, and I think you raised a good point, Mr. which is how does the schoolboard use it versus how does the administration and and staff and teachers use it? We're five people. They're 520 people. So I I would defer to their expertise and their daily use of this organization's policies, procedures, efforts, materials, etc. And always thinking about second and third effects. So if the board said, "Hey, we're not going to do VSBA anymore." What does that actually do to our team? What does that actually do to our school? And until
022we know that, I don't think that we can consider pulling the rug out from under anybody's feet. Uh I am in support of VSBA, not as a blanket blind support, but because I've heard from our administration, I've heard from our teachers and our staff. They need it. They want it. And for us to support them to create the best educational environment for our students and our teachers, then I also support VSBA. And I would vote to continue our membership at this time and in the very near future until another better option was presented. Mr. Chair, >> if I may ask a question. >> How does the Virginia School Boards Association pertain to teachers in their support? >> Well, I I think I have some answers to that, but I'll let Dr. Nichols address that. >>
023Oh, absolutely. uh you know from the if you think of maybe I've shared in my head because he had to cut up a tree today but the tree analogy and the roots of it strong board governance and strong superintendent board relationships allows teaching to happen allow students to learn um so from a fundamental overview strong policy strong implementation those pieces from those fundamental pieces there are some tangential things that come with it as well um in terms of resources uh we're able get out like legislative advocacy and just as somewhat of a side, I I love the idea of our own legislative agenda. So, we have the priorities of our teachers in mind. So, I think that's kind of how that flows through there. I think there's some really direct pieces. Um, but I think
024there are the indirect pieces as well from the strong governance side of things. So, that's my on the spot answer, Mr. President. >> All right. Anybody else have any questions or comments regarding this topic? Um, >> Mr. Chair, if I may. >> Yes, sir. I think what we're experiencing and hearing is a strong advocacy for another organization. And um as much as I appreciate that, the unfortunate part of that is um I cannot recommend or even advocate for another organization that is nowhere close to being able to provide the assistance and the benefit that VSBA has and currently is providing for our school system. I too have heard from a number of constituents with a concern of leaving BSB uh BSBA or changing anything right now until at which time there is some sort of
025alternative support not only for the board but also for the administrative positions. Now, as far as the three requests that have been presented, I think they're fabulous. I think it's wise uh to have a board member who will attend um the national sessions and uh an alternative and we should review um not just the SBA but any organization. But at this point in time, what I am hearing and discerning is a disgruntlement more about uh one over the other without an alternative or a viable plan going forward if there were changes. And I thank you for the time. >> Thank you, Mr. V. All right. Next subject is the VSBA media honoral nominations. Dr. Nichols again, sir. >> Yes, sir. This is an honor of a This is an annual honor that school divisions are
026able to bestow upon media outlets that uh cover schools in a fair, balanc, and accurate manner. Uh for this time, I won't get on my soap box and talk about the outlets that only cover New County Public Schools when something goes wrong. However, we were in Newsweek this week and I'll send you that article. It is fantastic about Quinton and our special education work and panties. You don't often want to be in Newsweek as a superintendent, but this is a beautiful thing. Um, and we're >> But is that a good thing? >> But Newsweek is not our recommendation for the media honorable. It is none other than the uh assistant uh force that covers all aspects of us and that is the Charles City New. So that is my recommendation that we put them forward
027as an honoral uh consideration uh because they do cover all facets of our organization daily and they do it in a fair consistent manner. So >> but I'd be happy to answer any questions you may or may not have versus >> any board members. All right. Thank you. Next item on under new business is a literally literacy update. Miss Kim Lawler. >> So, and board members, this was a direct request um about a followup from HMH uh which the board adopted. I think you were board members for 11 seconds when Kim came before you the first time and you did a great job reviewing that curriculum. So, one year laterish, we want to provide an update on how we're doing literacy. And we have none other than uh Kim Lawler and uh co-sponsored but maybe
028not getting up Emily Raper who is also integral to this. So Ross Miller does some stuff too. >> So good evening chairman, members of the board and Dr. Nichols. I wanted to come with you with the update after our first year of implementation of the Virginia Liberty Act which included the adoption of HMH. Um so I think it's good to review what was new this year in literacy. So this year we tackled a lot. There were new English language art standards K to 12. We had the new core curriculum which was HMH. We had a new literacy screener which became known as SALS not the PALS that was historical. We're now we had new scheduling blocks to um update our master schedules that went along with HMH. We had new informal assessments as a part
029of HMH and all of our teachers had to participate in um modules that came from the state that could take anywhere from 18 to 27 hours to complete. Um so I think a moment is needed to recognize all of the staff that tackled all of this new this year. This was a lot to take in one year and this is only literacy. This isn't talking about math standards that were new and everything else. So just a moment to recognize their efforts. Um just to speak to what supports were provided. We provided formal training in March and August of last year to prepare for this year. 26 staff members throughout the three schools were provided coachly. Coachley was on demand coaching with a real HMH um coach that they had access to 247. They could send
030messages. They could have Google chat. They could have virtual meetings. And as part of that, each um the schools had one to four site visits where the HMH coach came to the school. Schools could customize their schedule based on their needs and the coach gave directions, modeled lessons. We shared HMH engagement ideas to make sure the students had hands-on opportunities. We provided the at home learning days to complete the modules. We really wanted to honor their planning time as they're tackling a new core curriculum. There were PLC meetings within buildings. Our coaches um Megan Felford and Jen Scott were instrumental in helping teachers with HMH. We have instructional chats to talk about what's going well, what support is still needed, and then we also support teachers complete the Val as it was longer than anything
031we had done before. So, just to share what went well, this is from the words of teachers. >> Students loved the vocabulary lessons. We saw an increase in critical thinking. every student had a copy of the text. Um, so they could annotate, they could make notes, answer questions on the text. Um, teachers appreciated the spiral nature. So if somebody didn't understand something the first time, you were coming back to it all the time. Um, students were reading authentic literature and there was plenty of resources, a plethora. So just to share some data, I'm going to go into the vowels and SOS, but just so you also know, we collected data on fluency for fourth and fifth grade. Decoding as it was needed in fourth and fifth grade. Writing was quarterly except for kindergarten that starts
032in the second half of the year. Benchmarks were quarterly and then formative and formative classroom assessment throughout the year. So to talk about vowels just so you know what was assessed there's three sections there's the code base the language comprehension and then the rant which is rapid auto automatized naming so what you see on the screen is each of the subtests an explanation and what grades it was for. So you can see that it's really quite lengthy and indepth. teachers have um roughly 15 days to give this assessment to their class and it does take the 15 days and you're given you give it three times a year. So beginning of the year, mid year and spring. Um so to talk a little bit about the data, I obviously don't have comparison data to show
033you for that because it's the first time we've given it. So what I did was I showed you fall and spring. When students complete the assessment, they are put into a band of risk. So, high risk, moderate risk, or low risk. Obviously, we want as many students as possible in low risk, but we also throughout the year want to shift kids from high risk to moderate risk and from moderate risk to low risk. So, as you can see, we made incredible gains at all of our grade levels, kindergarten through third. And I won't read it to you in depth, but you know, from kindergarten going from 26% low risk when they first come in to like leaving us with 65% of our students at low risk, it's incredible growth. Um, so I really like the
034foundation that we're setting for our kids, right? This is our beginning place to then continue to grow them. So then SOS um and I did give you comparisons, but I think it's important to remember that there's also new standards. Um so the standards are not identical. So you're not comparing necessarily an apple to an apple. >> That's important to note. So um the three white boxes towards the bottom of the screen cover third, fourth, and fifth grade reading at each of our schools. Um, just to make it easier to read, I showed you where we grew this year, where we obtained um the diagram graph, going to know that graph at the top that kind of shows um third grade students last year, what did they do when they got to fourth grade? So that
035same cohort of kids, what happened when they moved up? And so you can see, for example, Clinton had 58% um pass their so in third grade, but those same kids in fourth grade went to a 73% pass rate. So there's a lot to be proud of. Um obviously there's still room that we can grow and that's what we'll continue to do, but for the first year of implementing a curriculum and with so much change, teachers showed incredible growth with their students. So, as you guys know, we're a part of the CIP um consortium. So, this is they send us data reports and this is um taken from one of them. Just so you understand what you're looking at, you have third, fourth, and fifth grade reading by school, their pass rate, the total number of
036students. The PR is the percentile rank. Um so for example, Watkins third grade reading um among the 72 at last check divisions in the part of CIP um we ranked 84th um among them. And then you have the past advanced and then our past advanced percentile rank. So just another way to look at the data as we compare to those that we are in the consortium with. But our work's not done yet, right? We still this is we've only completed year one. We have to continue to think about what our students need and that's going to change every year to meet our meet their needs. So some things that have already happened is schools held PLC's after SOS to unpack their school and their grade level data to think about what do those kids need
037next year. Um the elementary administrators and I met in mid June to unpack our division data and think holistically about what does our division need. Um, so one of those things that came out of it is on our pacing guides that the teachers use, priority standards are being highlighted based upon areas that we can grow in. So we noted that writing is also going to be addressed next year as a focus. Teachers um shared that they didn't have enough time to truly go through the writing process to complete a great final product. So we are um tailoring the modules to meet those needs. We will continue to assess our students with benchmarks, vowels, and informal assessments. Vowels is being extended to grades four and five. It's going all the way to 8th grade, but for
038elementary purposes, it will now be prek through five. We're going to continue to hold PLC's to unpack the curriculum and the lesson plans. And then we have professional development coming up in August for all staff to tailor what our next steps are based on data. Can you just for me just or for the public explain what a PLC is? Yes. Just Yeah. >> So a PLC is a professional learning community where teams of teachers come together to achieve a common goal. So they may be packing data. They could be lesson planning. They could be you know looking at any host of things as a small team of teachers with identifiable goal. >> Any questions? Mr. Vault, any questions or comments, sir? >> No, but thank you for the uh the information. I'm glad that we're
039able to do this. >> Yeah. Thank you very much for your presentation. Muna, any questions? >> I have a few questions. Um, as far as the site visits, how many site visits actually occurred at each of the schools? >> Yep. So, Newton Elementary had one. Watkins and Clinton each had three. >> Why? Why the discrepancies? So it was a grant funded um so it was schools that um received that funding and so it happened to be that Watkins and Quinton received that grant funding um Newton Elementary we paid >> okay and what what didn't go well what what were the concerns about the new program HMH and um where does it fall short according to the needs of the teachers and what you observed >> I think I don't want to say fell short I
040think there so much to unpack. >> Okay. >> There are so many components as a part of HMH. Yes. >> In print alone >> and then you go online and there's even more. Um so I think we were sort of resource inundated. >> Yeah. >> And how do you take all of that and decide what does my class exactly need? So now that we sort of know okay in this module this is what we're covering. Let's correlate that with our student data. What do we need to hone in on? what are our priorities >> and are they doing that over the summer? Where where is that conversation taking place? >> Yep. So, we have teachers um at one at each grade level working to start that work this summer. Um they're going through the pacing
041guides and highlighting that. But our admin teams have also started that process to take into their PLC's. They have a list of um the correlations between HMH and the standards and um our so results um standard by standard. so they can see areas that we were strong and areas that need greater focus which can go into our lesson planning. >> So you mentioned um you shared the Val's results and I'm just curious how um those results compared to the benchmark results compared to the so results because they're they're very different types of assessments, right? So um can you shed light on on that a little bit? Yeah. So, we um actually track how students do in third grade um ZAL's benchmark and so looking for the correlations and we were able to identify that our
042benchmarks and SOS are almost identical predictors. Interesting. >> Um so that's incredibly helpful for us. um vows in third grade differs because you're giving it to everybody in the fall, but then in midyear and spring you give it to the students as the vow states based on your level of risk. >> Interesting. >> Um so you just want to be careful when you're looking at that and students obviously from fall to midyear to spring may have some changes. >> Yeah. Um, so you just use that with caution, but it does align a student that was high risk struggled on their benchmarks and right >> just proceed with caution. In second grade, we do look at how vowels and benchmarks compare. Obviously, we don't have scores there, >> right? >> U, but we do look at
043that correlation, it's just important to note that second grade, the benchmarks are being read to them for half the year. So, that does skew the results a bit. >> That's right. That's right. what's being right to them. And I guess last the last question is going back to the chart with the data any indication as to why New Elementary School scores were so much lower than the other two uh schools. >> Yeah. So I think it's important to look at a couple factors. First, they were our only school with a new administration team this year. >> Um they also had a new reading specialist team. >> So those are two factors that the other two schools did not base. >> And just outside of that, I think that's a great question. Several quick questions. Um,
044outside of the implementation of literacy, New Elementary had a disproportionate number of staff members out on leave. Uh, warranted leave. I will tell you, we had some beautiful new river otterters. They're babies, but they're rivers. Um, and and some other circumstances. And it just um, you know, consistency with students matters, consistency with teachers matters, too. So, I think you have a couple of those avenues u mixed in there too from our lens. without going too far down the medical route. Uh but yeah. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Welcome, >> Mr. Dumbroski. >> No, >> Mr. Rhymer. >> Yeah, I'd like to go back uh to uh the slide with B data on it. >> So, thank you, Mr. That was a great question. Uh the percentage low risk. What exactly does low risk mean?
045So low risk um in the words of vowels means that student is at low risk for developing reading difficulties in their lifetime. >> Okay. So at that at this point in third grade we should know who is at no risk. Right. >> Focus in third grade switches from decoding from learning to read to reading using Yes. >> Getting to learn. >> Yeah. Um I'm assuming too well no that would be the wrong way to say this. So we have these numbers now and this is the first year. So are we expecting then as we begin first grade the next year for those high-risk numbers to be lower across the board? >> That would be the plan. that would tell us that our core curriculum is working and that we are moving students in the right
046direction. >> Okay. And and the cohorts uh we should expect higher lowrisk scores by third grade as this program continues. Correct. Because as I see now the uh third graders have a 55% risk which I don't think is very good. And just keep in mind for third grade, we don't test all of the students only in the spring. Okay? >> So it does skew the >> So how do we get a better sense of that data uh for the whole population >> for third grade or for >> third grade? >> So for third grade, we're going to still use the vowels, right? But then third grade also takes the benchmarks that aren't read. They very much mimic the SOS. That data is instrumental in making our intervention groups. You would love to speak please. Um
047so just coming out of his seat Mr. >> just to clarify I think an earlier question you said how do we know that students have no risk and there's no such thing according to vows. >> You always are either low, moderate or high. >> So low risk is the highest score you can get. >> I see. Yes. There's no >> um and and so that means there has to be some kind of definition behind it that is um >> quantifiable. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Yes. Basic. Yeah. They use statistical modeling to pick what should be a high risk, what should be a moderate risk and what should be a low risk. But everybody is at risk >> is at risk. >> And and this is this is a question that came up. >> Absolutely.
048>> The parent groups. So parent reports when they went home, parents had the exact same question and we had to be basically quick on how do we articulate this to parent and we modify how we articulate parents because we had parents coming in with the lowrisk designation on what are you talking about child's at risk. It's like, well, no, that's the that's the best designation that the state. >> Okay. So, can we go to the next slide? I'm sorry. No, that one I wasn't the uh one on >> that's a little bit. >> Yeah. No, the next one. This one. So, there's there's a number of things I'm seeing here. The advanced sections. Uh I'm I'm not seeing I'm seeing a a red area for instance and a lot of yellow. Um so what is
049one of the primary factors that affect the advanced uh category especially in our comparison to other schools right this is supposed to be a comparison to other schools and then that last column advanced PR uh we're we're showing some low scores there >> so that's representing students who scored past advance on the so above 500 or 500 and above So I think here this is where we start looking more closely at our students who are performing incredibly well on the benchmarks. How are we enriching those students? >> So we need it seems like we need to do some work. >> Yes. >> Especially in specific schools in specific places just and that's that's where um our instructional coaches and Kim and Emily and so forth can can really help. with along with our specialists. >>
050Okay. >> Um, thank you. >> I have one more question. Would it be possible for you to somewhere down the line as you unpack all this provide us with an update as to how you're going to address those issues? >> Sure. >> Specifically like how you're going to target. >> Absolutely. >> Wonderful. Thank you so much. >> We're excited to bring you some longitudinal data. Yeah. next year, you know, start any any two points connect. We really need three love. So, but first years are first years. That's right. Thank you, Miss Lawler. >> Thank you so much, >> Mr. Miller. You wanted to speak so badly, sir. It's your turn. >> Force requests is our next item. >> Good evening, Mr. Chair, members of the board, Dr. Nichols. Uh, yeah. So, bringing forth tonight a
051request to approve a course. In reality, just to give you sort of the what's going on here, we actually already offer this course as a dual enrollment course. Uh we're now shifting to a basically an advanced placement course. So, instead of going through the community college, we'll be going through college boards. Students would take the AP test instead of um to get their college credit versus getting it from Rapid Community College. Um, that's the main shift here and we have to bring it forth um to y'all because at the state level there's actually a different course code for this course because it's an AP and so in some instances we don't necessarily come for you and say hey we're going to teach a different level of course if it has the same course code this
052case the state has set this one aside u but it it pretty much is a course that we already teach. Um part of part part of the rationale here is uh we had a teacher who was teaching the course who was already certified dual dual enrollment and the teachers that are going to be teaching it moving forward aren't certified dual enrollment so we're shifting to that AP model for this course. >> Mr. Corman just a reminder um we put two in our enrollment pathway we put two different levels there. DE is what we would like to do because that transfers very easily but that also comes with some pretty stringent requirements for teacher lensure. So if we don't have that we have the backup college board would not like me that um advanced placement. So
053this is that that option like with teacher certification we can do dual enrollment or we can do an AP but kids have an opportunity for college credit. Uh so just it's a continuation of our mission really connected to the strategic plan. >> Mr. Vault, any questions or comments, sir? >> No, nothing on that. I think it's a great idea. >> Thank you, sir. Miss Kun, >> no. >> Mr. Dumbroski, >> no. >> Mr. Rhymer, >> what modeling tools do they use for >> sorry. He's modeling tools. >> So this isn't 3D digital art. >> Okay. This is >> is like like sculpture and >> so Eric this is cool. >> Hands on. >> Cool. I like it. >> Yeah. >> Thank you, Mr. Miller. >> Thank you, >> Miss Morheim. School nutrition contracts is our
054next subject. >> Mr. Mr. Chair, school board members, Dr. Nichols. Um, tonight I'm bringing to you a request for approval of some school nutrition contracts. We actually participate in a Southside food co-op. Um, it has 31 school divisions in it and Lesie and Al Crystal takes a very big leadership role within that co-op and we issue all of the bids for basically everything that they're purchasing um to serve in their kitchens. So, that is a very heavy lift that new provides for those divisions. Um, I'm very thankful to our school nutrition team, specifically Leslie and Crystal and their new leadership team in completing this. So, tonight I'm asking for specifically just you to allow Dr. Nichols to sign those contract documents. There are three that we are um wanting to move forward. There's one that
055I probably will have to wait and bring to you in August, and that is for the fruit smoothie mix, but the others are ready to roll. Are there any questions? >> Mr. Vault, any questions or comments? >> Nothing. Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss Kuna. >> Mr. Deoski, >> Mr. Rhyr, thank you, Morgan. >> Okay. Thank you. >> That concludes new business. We're moving on to school board goals, review, and update project New Elementary School. Dr. Nichols. >> Yes, sir. And for me, my plan for tonight's presentation uh was derailed yesterday. Uh but I'll bring you up to speed. So, we put forward uh to the board of supervisors uh in partnership with um Mr. Hathaway and and um his team a transfer of roughly $130,000 uh to add to the 2.3 million that we
056had in our account for new elementary. And just as a reminder for viewers, uh we saved nearly half a million dollars on the Quinton project. We got an additional construction grant. Um, and then we've been good stewards and in year end putting some money aside to really building this piece and it got to $2.3 million. Uh, the additional 130,000 basically would have got us to bidding documents um or to the point that we could bid if we had the the revenue for it. So that's why that went for the board of supervisors. I attended last night uh with really no plans on participating. And if you watched the YouTube video, I was at the podium for about 20 minutes um with a number of questions uh many of which I feel like we've answered, but
057when somebody tells you they still have a question, obviously it did not translate. So, we got to go back to the drawing board uh with that. So, um no action was taken last night on that transfer. As of right now, this project sort of stands in a standstill. I highly encourage board members to watch um that segment. Um so and uh I've offered uh Mr. Hway and I met first thing this morning, had a very productive conversation as part of our regularly scheduled meeting um to just talk about how do we get this project back on track. So, um, we were operating under the, um, assumption that with the, uh, $2.3 million that was there, which was designated for new school construction, that we were off and running on new school construction. Um, so the
058opinion on whether that is true, varies wildly among the board of supervisors members. So, I highly encourage you, Mr. Rhymer got a big shout out um at that board meeting uh for his positive communication and and relentlessness about the new elementary school project. Um so really appreciate that advocacy. This may lead to a joint board meeting board members which I will happily coordinate with way and your schedules. Um, I'm extremely worried about New Tan Elementary and the sustainability. Um, and you guys have seen the packet and it's been shared with the county as well, the effort that we're having put in u on electrical, on HVAC, and on plumbing on a a daily basis. Um, so to think about another year or two or three or beyond causes me great concern when it comes to
059capital projects and sustainability for that school. So, um, board members, I happy to answer any questions, but that's pretty much just a summary of of where we are at this point in time. >> Thank you, Dr. Nichols. Mr. Vault, >> no, I have nothing. Thank you. >> Thank you, Sher. Mr. >> I have nothing. Thank you. >> All right, Mr. Dumbroski. >> No, >> Mr. Rhymer. >> Um, I would just like to say that, you know, I think board supervisors We may need to do like we did in the budget year last year where we brought them each in individually one on one with the different uh uh representatives and walk them through the plans not just a joint board meeting >> because I I think each of them may need individual uh explanations and
060attention to this. they probably have different concerns and uh and I know it's a lot of work for us but that's just my thought and with Haney and the supervis and the superintendent and uh their board member and our board member all side by side one on one instead of in a group. I think that might be more effective. It's just a suggestion. Mr. Chair, Mr. Rhymer, I think it's a great suggestion. Thank you for your comment, sir. All right, M. Dr. Nichols, you are up again, sir, with the strategic plan update. >> Yes, sir. So, we've been going goal by goal, board members, and we have reached the final goal. Uh, but that does not end the strategic plan mission. Um, so this month, as we're working towards back to school, we wanted to
061talk to you about goal four, which is really strengthening partnerships with family and community. So, we want to zoom in to goal four. There we go. We just zoomed in. Uh, and that's really about those building those relationships with our families uh and community members. Uh, team is is pretty broad. So when we zoom in one more time, um there are strategies connected to each of these goals and there are indicators related to just keep in mind this all grew from several strategic planning sessions um with our staff and with our community. Uh tonight I want to zoom in one more time um and to the strategy about establishing regular communication channels and I want to update you on some of the redesign work that we've been doing behind the scenes which we're quite excited
062about and so if you go to newkentschools.org for you will see a completely redesigned interactive um aesthetically beautiful but also incredibly informative and easy to navigate easier to navigate uh web page. Um each of our school sites have also been redone board members. This has stay back on Oops. Thank you. Um, this work has gone on behind the scenes uh for probably the past eight months to connect links, to redesign links, um, even down to to certain nuances. When you go to the New Kent Middle School page and you scroll about halfway down, you're going to see our strategic plan, but it's all going to be New Kent Middle School pictures connected to that. We do the same thing in New Kent High School, it's going to be New Kent High School. Um, and so
063the strategic plan is front and center. One of the things that frustrates me, I've looked at u and our team will tell you hundreds of school websites. I hate when you can't easily find how do you apply for a job. So if you look at the top right of ours, join our team is right there and it stands out like you don't have to funnel some big school divisions, it's very hard to find that button. Um, so we've also minimized clicks behind that and we've made that experience a little more interactive and and beautiful. There's also on the right side a button that says apply. So there are multiple ways to get it because people navigate websites differently. Um, it also has uh the let's talk component and the interactive chatbot that is there is
064also still part of page. Easy links to all of our social medias and um connected to that. You have your schoolboard page. So, uh calendars there that's always on everybody's mind. How do I register my kids, you guys, school board and then join our team. So, we're continuing to work behind the scenes. We did a soft launch about a month ago. got some really good feedback on it. So, board members and community, if you have time, please navigate through. Um, and this is a still shot. If we were actually on the website, it would be uh changing and moving. But not only that, I am incredibly excited. There we go. Uh, that we now have our own app on the app store. It is >> wow >> really incredibly titled NKCPS. Um so what that
065does is it gives you the mobile friendly version not the source of going to a website and when you have it on your phone it does not translate. Um you can click on so I have downloaded it. I clicked on the division and all five schools. Um so I can see everything and the calendars and those different pieces and us still working on the app piece. Uh but since the world has become so app-based, we wanted to make sure NKCPS had an app available for fans. Uh in addition to that, board members, we are shifting our communication platform uh which is even more interactive and engaging uh than the previous platform we're using. Uh, so it allows us more flexibility, allows possible two-way messaging, um, and is easier to utilize for staff, for teachers, for
066families. Um, so more information coming on that. So, uh, we're very excited about our continued partnership with families and the community. Um, and we think the website and the app is a huge step forward in honoring that strategy and the strategic plan. So, um, as you guys kind of play around in there and kind of see it, please feel free to give us feedback. Um, that let's talk button is very easy to give us feedback with, um, if you're watching this at home. So, that's where we are board members. Uh, with goal 4, uh, we'll be loading our back to school contest. School supply lists are already up there. Um, and we've gone the extra step of you can do one click with teacher share. Um, and it puts your whole first grade supply list
067there for you already done. just click that and check out. Uh so very excited about uh goal for and some of the work that we're doing. So that's my quick update on strategic plan board members. Be happy to answer any questions. >> Thank you Dr. Nicholas. Web and app looks amazing. I just downloaded it. Everybody do the same. All right, Mr. Vault. Any comments or questions, sir? >> No, I so appreciate the work on that and the uh making it much easier to navigate. Thank you, >> Miss Cooney. Yeah, I've been on the website. I I don't have the app yet, but I've been on the website and it is uh definitely easier to navigate through. So, thank you for your efforts. Yes, >> Mr. Droski. >> Great efforts. Is there is that a Google
068Play? >> I believe we do have available. It should be It's in all stores. We're not just Apple stops here. >> Just checking. >> Some of us try to but we are we are friendly across the It's in the Google Play Store. >> Mr. Rhyr. >> All right. All right, the next several items. We have no submissions. So, policy review, votes of consideration. So, we're now on to number eight under unfinished business. Miss Kuna, an update on the superintendent evaluation. >> Yes, Mr. Chair, uh board members, Dr. Nichols, and everyone here. I just want to give you a little update. So, I've shared I've gone through the eight standards that are uh used to evaluate the superintendent. Um and I've shared those with each of the board members. um just to give them an opportunity
069to review some of the um examples of performance indicators that can be applied to each of the eight standards. I think there's a slide uh actually that if you could put it up for me that would be great but um the eight standards are are listed there. Um, and I asked the schoolboard members individually because we cannot discuss things obviously together to review the samples or examples of performance indicators for each of those eight standards. And what I did was instead of having all the examples listed for each of the eight standards, which is very cumbersome and uh awkward, I asked them to review, I offered three to four main performance indicators for each of the standards. They're currently reviewing those and I hope to get feedback from them uh more feedback this week. So
070the next phase of course is to decide on the waiting of each of those standards. So what I put together here is a chart. It can get a little complicated to follow the process. There's some math involved here, but the idea is that as a board we can decide to go with a default weight which is 1.25 per standard. And of course that adds up to 10. Or we can look at each of those standards and decide, do we want some of those standards to weigh have a little greater weight than others? Now, one of the ones to point out specifically is standard 8, which is academic progress. Um, some school divisions want to make that a little less, some want to make that a little bit more. I don't know why anyone would want
071to make it less than 1.25, 25 but the idea is that it cannot be lower than one. So it has to be one or higher. Um the code of Virginia does uh require that student academic progress be a significant component of the evaluation process. Now obviously we have there are a lot of things that go into academic progress and we certainly can't tie uh Dr. Nichols specific performance on student achievement. But the idea here and if you go through the standards, they're all pretty much tied to academic or student progress of course because we are a school division. So one of the things we have to consider is whether we want to leave it as the the standard default of 1.25 25 or we want to uh look at those standards and that's why I
072ask you to please look at them uh carefully and the descriptions that go with each of that standard and decide whether we want to leave it as is or change some of those standards to have more weight and then less weight. Then it's added to that weight is multiplied by the number of points that the uh are are given to uh to each individual standard. it's multiplied all those are added and then there's a summitative rating that uh that is for is generated um and then there are different ratings uh high performance highly effective effective uh reaching effectiveness or ineffective. So here we have to decide a couple of things. So the waiting should we leave it the same or not? Um and then the next thing you want to consider is for standard 8
073academic process. We have an opportunity to discuss or determine what performance indicators the board wishes to apply to student achievement to correspond with standard 8. Now we already have some for goal one in our strategic plan. And of course all this is going to be reviewed with Dr. Nichols and there has to be mutual agreement between the board and Dr. Nichols as superintendent. I am going to meet with Dr. Nichols uh July 29th at 10:00 a.m. and the board members uh has to be one other is welcome to join me, but I didn't feel we were quite ready at this point um to involve Dr. Nichols because I wanted the board to have an opportunity to think about these issues and weigh in uh on you know what they consider to be important or not.
074Uh unfortunately the my internet was down. we had some down wires. And so, uh, I did share some, um, examples, quite an extensive, uh, list of different types of performance indicators which apply to student achievement, which uh, correspond to standard 8. Please review those and provide some feedback. I'd love to have that in place before I meet with Dr. Nichols on the 29th so we can discuss that further. Um and lastly we want to discuss or think about the format of the actual evaluation process going forward and the format of the evaluation tool. This is not just an exercise and because we're evaluating Dr. Nichols specifically. This is about um us as a board um updating the evaluation process and updating the evaluation tool uh for any superintendent that we would have. Currently, our superintendent
075is Dr. Nichols, of course, but it could apply to any future superintendent. With that, any questions that any of the board members have? >> Uh I just want to thank you, Mr. Coun, for taking on this task. It is one of great import and obviously a little complexity. So thank you for your efforts therein. Mr. Vaude, any comments or questions, sir? >> Yeah, I I I would just like to um thank Mrs. Kuna in addition for all the hard work and I love the idea of being able to um quantitate and and not make it just a general comment but thank you so much for going into this and making that uh making that happen. >> Miss Drosski. >> Yes. I also want to say thank you for putting that all together. I think it's
076um I feel simplifying it and putting you know just summarizing the main points into just a few so that we can really concentrate on those. Um, one question I had is if we add more weight to one of them, does that mean we have to deduct from another one so that it equals 10? >> Yes, absolutely. That's correct. That's all. >> Mr. Rhyr, >> um, just echo thanks. >> All right. >> All my thanks. >> Okay. >> Echoed the thanks. >> Thank you. >> All right. Thank you very much. Uh we had no citizen sign up for comments. So we are moving now on to the conclusion of our meeting and action items. The first item up is to consider approval of the VSBA annual membership dues in the amount of $7,341. Do I hear
077a motion to approve the dues as presented? >> So moved. >> Miss Kuna has the motion. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Miss Rhyr, Mr. Rhymer has the second. Miss Davis, please pull the board. >> Mr. Rhymer, >> I. Miss Sroski >> I >> Miss Kun >> I >> Mr. Bot >> I >> Mr. Pagano >> I >> motion passes unanimously 5-0. Next we have consideration of approval of the VSBA media honor roll nom nomination which is the Charles City New Chronicle. Do I have a motion to approve that nomination? >> Mr. Broski has the motion. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Mr. Rhymer has the second. Miss Davis, please pull the board. >> Mr. Rome, >> I. >> Mr. Numbroski, >> I. >> Miss Kuna, >> I. >> Mr. Ba,
078>> I. >> Mr. Pagano, >> I. Motion again passes unanimously. 5-0. Moving on to consideration of approval of the course request, specifically the art and design as pre uh presented by Mr. Miller. Do I have a motion to approve the request? >> So moved. >> Mr. Broski has the motion. Do I have a second? >> Second. Miss Coun has the second. Miss Davis, pull the board, please. >> Mr. Rymer, >> I. >> Miss Tumbroski, >> I. >> Miss Kuna, >> I. >> Mr. Boat, >> I. >> Mr. Kathano, >> I. Motion passes. 50. And on to our final voting matter of the evening, consideration of approval of the school nutrition contracts as presented by Miss Morgheim. Do I have a motion to approve as presented? So moved. >> Mr. VA has the motion. Do I
079have a second? Second. Mr. Rhymer has a second. Miss Davis, please pull the board. >> Mr. Rhyme, >> I. >> Mr. Rosski, >> I. >> Miss Kuna, >> I. >> Mr. B, >> I. >> Mr. >> I. Motion again passes unanimously. 5-0. All right, moving on to our comment section. Uh, Mr. Rhyr, any comments or closing uh remarks, sir? Um I just want to once again reiterate the importance of uh persuading supervisors to build uh this new school and get it started. Um, you know, we all know the risks of keeping it as is the continued and slow erosion of the ability to support it as we lose the ability to recharge the HVAC. Uh, I know that uh we're good at finding it on other markets, but that can only that solution only lasts
080so long. Um, and yeah, um, it's it's a personal goal of mine and I will continue to work hard to persuade them to do that. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Ry. Mr. Vault. >> Yeah. At first, I want to thank my fellow board members for um, agreeing to have me attend the meeting remotely due to circumstances and uh, also thank those in administration, Dr. Nichols and and everyone that made it possible. Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. Mr. Broski, >> I've made more than my fair share of comments today, but um I just want to, you know, I I'm a very p personnicity person as I've told Mr. drop and I had no intention of advocating for another resource. I wouldn't have put the time and effort into asking and for those matters to
081be considered. Um I just felt that I that was a matter of transparency for more for for me and I just wanted to make my concerns known. Um, I did have the opportunity to also train or start training um, Toby Davis this week and it was wonderful opportunity to just to get to know him a little bit more. Uh, we only had 40 minutes because I don't have the Zoom. Um, but he's amazing and I I told him that we have every confidence in the world in MCM. And just one more thing that I wanted to leave with was a response that I wrote to a constituent who reached out about the BSBA and I said, "Thank you for reaching out, sharing your perspective. It really matters and I hope everyone knows that. I'm always
082open to learning and considering different viewpoints. While we may not always see things the same way, please know that I remain fully committed to serving in this role to the best of my ability. I want people to feel comfortable coming to me with their questions and concerns, and I'm happy to always engage in civil conversations as we work together to do what's best for the children in New County. >> Okay. Thank you, Miss Coun. Uh, I don't have much to say except I want to uh say thank you to Miss Lawler and your crew. You I know how hard you you've been working all year on this new reading program and we haven't even got an update on the math uh standards and all that. Uh we recognize uh how hard it is to do
083that. As a former teacher, I know how hard it is to implement a new program when you're faced with all these other expectations and requirements. So kudos to you and your team. Um and I appreciate you very much. >> Thank you Miss Kuna. Uh I would just like to thank any everybody again for their participation and attendance in these meetings especially you Mr. Vaude attending remotely. Uh I know that's not the most convenient thing in the world. So thank you sir. I would also like to mirror Mr. Rhymer's comments uh and in support of a new New Kent Elementary School for the benefit and retention of our teachers, for the prudent use of our capital and taxpayer dollars, but more importantly for providing our students with the best learning environment possible. It is imperative that
084we move this project forward. And I would encourage everyone, including the people sitting at these tables, to uh spread that message across our county and across our community, but especially to our board of supervisors, and let's see if we can get this project completed. >> Dr. Nichols. >> Uh yes, sir. Um as I entered year seven as superintendent in New Kent, which is crazy, uh I'm just even more convinced that we have the best people um in the world. We hosted a conference today uh for region one and region three. Um I think there were 10 breakout sessions. They asked us to lead five of them including the keynote because of the work that we do and the talent that we have. So it was a stark reminder for how fortunate I am to get
085to work with such an amazing team. And I want to say thank you to the unsung heroes. Somebody asked me the other day, where'd you go on vacation? I'm like if you think we have time for vacation, you've never turned a school system around. Um, so for our finance team who started a new fiscal year and are closing out audits and payrolls and those different pieces to our technology team that's doing upgrades, uh, operations, uh, you know, putting in a turf field, we're doing HVAC work, we're doing all of these different things, uh, Ross and and, uh, Christine with student services and instruction that are building curriculum and doing PD and, uh, we are just so incredibly busy. um and Allison Anderson and the hiring and staffing and we have orientation with the first group
086of people Thursday like it is nonstop uh and uh just that work doesn't get noticed enough and uh I couldn't be superintendent without working with the amazing people. So uh thank you board for allowing us to do this work and uh lucky seven already uh and students and families you just got a couple more weeks. We're coming back and we're coming back in a big way. So thank you. >> Thanks. Thank you Dr. Nichols. All right, everybody. That's going to wrap us up. The next meeting of the school board will be a regular meeting on Tuesday, August 9th, 2025 to be held here in the historic courthouse boardroom at 6:00. The close session will begin at 5:30m.