East Hampton Town Board Work Session MTK 3/10/26

001East Hampton Town Board. We are live. >> Great. Good morning everyone and thank you LTV and welcome to the East Hampton Town Board work session of Tuesday, March 10th, 2026. Michael, if you could please read the roll call. >> Council member Tom Flight, >> present. >> Deputy Supervisor David Lee, >> present. >> Council member Kate Rogers, >> present. Council member Ian Calder Pedmont, >> present. >> Supervisor Kathy Bur Gonzalez, >> present. If we could all please stand for the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> So today we start with public portion. We ask folks to kindly keep your comments to three minutes. We'll take from

002the room first and then go and see if there's anyone that's called in. Then we have four topics for today. Tickornne diseases. It's a presentation from the East Hampton Tick Action Committee. Followed by the Springs Library Parking Lot Capital Project. Council member Ian Calder Pedmont and and Matt Jeder, our town engineer, will be presenting. That'll be followed by code amendments to chapter 240-35 permits for rental cars and that's with uh assistant town attorney Alex Veio and then code amendments to chapter 135 filming and that's our town attorney Jake Turner. That'll be followed by liaison reports and then resolutions. So, first we're going to start with public portion. Michael, has anyone signed up to speak? Is there anyone in the room that would like to address the board during public portion? Larry, >> they're blocking over

003there. >> Yes. >> So, follow I'm sorry, Larry Zimmerman. I'm a East Hampton Town resident. Uh following up with what I started last week uh in terms of uh myself and the building department. Uh I am astounded that I didn't hear from any of the board uh following up with what I said, but I guess I shouldn't be because I don't get returned phone calls either. So uh there's a article out from patch today and yesterday about um new changes to the building department um which I'm happy to see something that's finally being done. But in it, it it lists three outside agencies that are going to looks to me basically help with paperwork. Um, my guess is, uh, these people pay those people anywhere from 75,000 to $150,000 a year for what they do,

004which if you add a profit in to that on an hourly basis, I think you guys are paying a lot of money or overpaying a lot of money when you have local people that are qualified and you're not letting them work because they don't speak Spanish. So, the absurdity of that is is beyond my uh comprehension. You also mentioned in here that there is an expanded staff. Um I was just at the building department and uh I asked them about the expanded staff and they didn't know what I was referring to. So um I'll uh I'll keep my comments short this time, but um I'm really amazed again that someone with 50 years of experience in the building industry needs to speak Spanish to be a building inspector. That's all I've got to say. Pleasure.

005>> Thank you, Larry. >> Would anyone else like to address the board during public comment? Lorine, >> I just squeaked in. Huh? >> You did. Welcome, Lorine. >> Thank you. >> Good morning. Um, I am here to speak in support of the proposed parking behind the Springs Library. And I'm not just speaking for myself, but I uh all the entities in the historic Spring Springs area are in favor of this. There's been an expansion of programming throughout the district and there are times when people come particularly for Maong on Wednesday where they literally cannot find a place to park. So, um I I applaud you for doing it and and doing it so quickly. I mean, really, thank you. It's going to be hopefully, maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, but hopefully by this summer,

006we we can have something there when the need is the greatest. So, thank you. That's it. >> Thank you, Lori. >> Would anyone else like to address the board? >> Do I have to go over there? >> You You do if that's okay. Terry, welcome. I got I got it. >> I'm a small walker. >> That's okay, too. Take your time. >> Thank you. My name is Terry O Rearden and I'm the uh president of the East Hampton Sportsman's Alliance and I'm here to speak on behalf of the uh tick control and advisory committee and uh it's out of control and there's not much that we can do except stick to what we're going to try to do and that's very important. It doesn't take much and a lot of it should be translated into

007Spanish and circulated amongst the clergy in particular so that this word can get out to the Latinos and Hispanics, not just us. And uh think that's all I'm going to say today. Thanks. >> Thank you, Terry. Would anyone else Nancy, >> welcome Nancy. Hi. >> Okay. My name is Nancy Atlas and I'm here I'm just going to make two quick points if that's okay. Can I do more than one? Um, in regards I'm here also for the tickborn diseases. Thank you Tom for including me. Um, I would say that in addition backing up what Terry had said, there has been a real concern amongst the mothers of Montalk. U, um, four of my closest friends. Two of them have been taken to the hospital in an ambulance for Alpha Gal. >> And these are hearty,

008salty mont women who are incredibly smart and sassy. Um and I feel I would love to include the discussion as we move forward. I I see it on the PDF the importance and the education of um letting people you know we have visitors from all around the world that come here and it breaks my heart as somebody that also nearly died from Lyme disease. I had latestage lime menitis three years ago that they thought was multiple scerosis and it breaks my heart to think of somebody that comes to our beautiful hamlet and is out back in that world suffering because they don't know. So, you know, I think there's beach grass. I would personally like to ask for more signage. That's my my request. Secondly, I would also like to represent over 120 local musicians

009that boycott the Montalk Music Festival. And I would like you to consider, if not for this year, next year, really taking a look at the permit, you have a massive majority of musicians that don't participate. And while I think it's great for the town and I understand all aspects of it, I think that it is time that your musicians are represented and paid a a small fee. We're talking about $100. I think they make more than enough with their sponsorship. So, thank you for your time. Thanks. >> Thank you, Nancy. >> Would anyone else like to address the board? >> My name is Dick Monahan. I'm a resident of Montalk and I'm a recipient of the Lyme disease. I'm one of the lucky ones now. But I I just want to tell you that my

010experience with lime uh I got very weak. I went to the doctor. They did not move for a limes test. Finally, one day I woke up. I couldn't even twist the door knob to open the door. And I was just totally disgusted with the way it was handled with the doctors. And I went to the hospital and they determined that I had chronic lime. Chronic lime is where it lays in you and it's, you know, uh, remote and every once in a while it pops up. And that's what happened. I was one of the fortunate ones because within about a year after that my appendix leaked and I had to go back into the hospital. They couldn't stabilize the the appendix. So I had to wait about a month and a half, two months before

011the appendix was taken out, but I had a high potency drug antibiotic. It knocked out anything that leaked from the appendix, but it took the chronic lime out of me. And that's a dividend for me. And I got involved with the uh tick committee here with Tom. And he's doing a fantastic job trying to elevate the uh problem that we have here, not only in Montalk, it's all other places too, but it's very pronounced here in Montalk. So that's I just wanted to share that. Thank you. >> Thank you, Dick. Would anyone else like to address the board? Jason, is there anyone on the line? >> We have no callers on the line. >> Okay. So, we actually have a presentation that we want to make this morning that's not on today's agenda. And if

012we could cue that up, Chelsea. Um, this year is going to be the 50th annual Montalk Turkey Trot Run for Fun. And that was started, as many folks in this room know, uh, by John Kishin. And today we'd like to honor John. So we get the presentation up. So Chelsea, if you could advance to the next slide. And I believe there's audio on the second page. >> Jason, how do we make sure the audio comes through? >> Did uh when you hit screen share, did it hit did you uh enable on the bottom of it share audio? >> Here we go. Thank you. >> Let's see if that works. I consider being a resident of Malkque a privilege and a blessing. It's been Monttok's been wonderful to me and my family. >> So, so for

013those that that knew John, he moved here to Hither Hills to in Montalk in 1973. He joined the Montalk I'm gonna I can't look at you, Nancy. I'm gonna get emotional. Um he joined the Montalk Fire Department in ambulance squad in 1974. In 1975, he opened his own brokerage, Keshan Real Estate, and had the most incredible advertising I've ever seen, quite frankly, and I had a 30-year career in advertising. Uh he founded and led the Montto Library in 1990. He served on the Montalk downtown Association, Monttok Chamber of Commerce, and as vice president of the Amigans Golf Club. He helped rename Montalk Plaza as the Carl Fisher Plaza and organized the burying of utility wires at the entrance to Montalk uh downtown and along the old Montalk Highway. He founded the Thanksgiving Day run for

014fun in 1976 and was an active photographer capturing point portraits and landscapes of people and places in Montalk. >> I consider being a resident. >> Sorry. So, what is the turkey track? So, as as John has said, it was a fun run. Oops. Here we go. >> It's not working as a presentation. Sorry. >> It's a fun run. I mean, there are kids that are professionals that take it very seriously that are trying to set the record, but you can bring your bicycle, your grandchild, your dog. It's a run for fun on Thanksgiving morning. And this has become an annual event. And this November, it will be our 50th annual turkey trot. And the proceeds for the from the three mile and six mile run support our local food pantries and Meals on Wheels. And

015you'll see scattered throughout here's we see the um the actual the the loop. Uh the distance is 3.1 miles. Um but as you as we go through this presentation, you can go to the next page. you'll see that there are a number of pictures of John over the years. So, so here he is with Lisa Nestle Hall, uh Nancy, his daughter, and Lisa's grandmother, Da Daisy Jacobs in the background. 1987, John Kishin presented a turkey to 9-year-old Suanne Ryan, who placed second in her division. >> Gosh, >> I don't think we give turkeys away anymore. Yeah. And then throughout the years, um, there's there was an interview that he did with Amy Lusty. Do you want to play that, Chelsea? See if that'll play. >> When I first came here, besides being involved in these

016various organizations, my first I decided I should You have to give something back and leave it a little better than you found it. So, the first thing I did, I used to do a lot of running. I ran the New York Marathon. So when I came out here at Staten Island, we used to have a turkey trot, a run for fun on Thanksgiving. So I brought it out here. I s I had about eight guys cuz I used to come down to the plaza on Thanksgiving morning and run five miles out to the ranch and back. And little by little, I got eight people, eight other guys that wanted to run that liked running to join me. So, and then over the years it grew and grew and after a while they ended what with

017a couple of hundred people. We have photos from 2012. The next slide. >> And then 2014 and 2017. 2021 and 2023. And we thank our local photographers who's we've given photo credits to because we've gotten these photos off the internet. 2024 2025 what was the number in 2025 at >> 11 record 1100 including one council member been a turkey turkey you know >> Ian missed the start time is that right Ian that's I was so quick >> that joke is getting >> I am >> and as you can see here the next slide uh proceeds were you know donated you can see supervisor Um, Peter Vanscoy presenting a check to uh Alice House Neck for the Montalk Food Pantry. He's joined by John and John Rooney, our uh superintendent of recreation. The next slide, we've

018got Supervisor Larry Canwell presenting uh a town board resolution to John uh for the change of the Mont the naming of the Montto Plaza to Carl Fischer Plaza. And then we've got photos over the years with the uh where the the w you can see on the left you see the electrical wires Verizon wires across as you enter downtown Monttoque and on the right those wires are gone because of the work of John. >> Currently I'm I'm in the process and I'm halfway there is taking the poles and wires down at the old Montalk Highway. I don't know if you've noticed, but uh we're all we're also taking it down at the entrance of town. So when you drive into town, you're going to get the you're going to be received by the spectacular view

019of the ocean without the telephone poles and wires. >> And then John was also known for his incredible photography. Well, I do a lot of landscape photography, but I also very much enjoy taking portraits of people. >> Well, I he went on to say because I feel I have a talent to capture the personality of the essence of people, but Monttok has so many spectacular locations. It's all about the lighting early in the morning and late at night, different times of the year, during or after storms. And you can see some of the This is Andrew's cottage circa 1990. The veranda of the DeForest cottage circa 1990 as well. And photos of the Montalk Library that same year. And then lastly, the groundbreaking for the library expansion in July of 2020. And uh here we

020had Dr. Edwin Kishan, John Keshan, and East Hampton Town Supervisor Peter Vancoyak. So I'm going to take some things out of order like I just did. I I have the privilege of being able to do that and we are going to go to the last resolution in our packet. Okay. >> And I'm going to offer resolution rename the Montalk Turkey Trot as the John Keshan Memorial Montalk Turkey Trot. Whereas John Keshan was deeply involved in the Monta community beginning in 1973 serving with the Montalk fire department and ambulance squad operating Keshan real estate and contributing his time and leadership to organizations including the Montalk downtown Association and the Montalk Chamber of Commerce. And whereas John Kishan helped shape the character of Montalk through his many contributions including naming Carl Fischer Plaza, supporting the burial of

021utility wires entering Montalk, helping establish the MAK library, and founding the annual Montalk Turkey Trot Run for Fun. And whereas the Thanksgiving Day Maque turkey trot run for fun has become a cherished community tradition bringing residents and visitors together each year in the spirit of health, friendship, and community. And whereas on Thursday, November 26, 2026, we will mark the 50th anniversary of the race and the town of East Hampton wishes to recognize John Keshan's lasting impact on the Montalk community and honor his memory. Now therefore, be it resolved that the East Hampton Town Board hereby renames the annual Monttok Turkey Trot as the John Keshan Memorial Malk Turkey Trot effective March 10th, 2026. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I like to do one more presentation if if Nancy and Ed, if you could

022join me at the podium. This is on behalf of the residents of the town of East Hampton. We want to give you a certificate of recognition in uh awarded in the memory of John Kishan in honor of his lifelong dedication to the Montalk community and his founding of the Montalk Turkey Trot Run for fun. In recognition of his lasting legacy, the East Hampton Town Board proudly renames this annual tradition, the John Keshan Memorial Malk Turkey Trot, so that his spirit of community, generosity, and love for Montalk will continue to sp inspire generations to come. Thank you. Okay. So, now we're going to go back to the agenda and our first topic is tickborn diseases. is a presentation by the East Hampton Town Tick Action Committee. And I believe Patrick, you're going to put the presentation

023up. >> And Jason, if you could uh let in Dr. Scott Campbell, if Jerry Simons is on there, and if Dr. Dempsey is there, if you could let them into the meeting, that would be great. >> Yes, I have three individuals here, and they have different names. I'm just going to let them in first, and we can see because sometimes it happens with Zoom. Thank you, Patrick. Good morning, folks. Um, thank you for making time to come in today. So, tickborn diseases. Um, when we had a meeting here, I think back in November, we kind of did a quick audience check of how many people had been bitten by a tick or had a tickborn disease and and I think every hand in the room went up. Um, this is something that one of the

024Nancy called out earlier. In my time living here, I have seen this affect so many people negatively. Its impacts on our community are are massive. And that's what drove me to kind of bring about this committee, put together the expertise to help us understand what the scope of this disease is and begin to find ways to address um that situation. So, we go to the next slide, please, Patrick. So, the Lone Star tick. Um, one of the many ticks we get out here. Um, you see this and immediately the hairs in the back of your neck stand up and you kind of start to check yourself, scratch your scalp and freak out that you have a tick on you. Tick season's back. Um, you know, I I wake up often in the night. But, you

025know, quick early statistic on this in terms of its prevailence across the US. Over half a million Americans are diagnosed with tickborn diseases every year. This is more than HIV, hepatitis C and Westnile virus combined. Next slide, please. So why does it matter specifically to us out here? I think a lot of this we know, but Eastern Suffach County has among the highest tickborn diseases instance in New York State. Our ecology out here, our habitat, our flora and fauna uh massively favor tick year round survival. Um, we're also a community that loves our outdoor lifestyle. Be it the fun runs, uh, going on the trails in the wood, bike riding, being in your garden. We are exposed to the environment, um, where we'll come across ticks frequently out here. Um, we have a growing lonear

026tick population. Uh, and with that has come new diseases that we are facing. Um, this is a chronic environmental health issue, not a seasonal nuisance. This has been going on for decades, if not centuries. Next slide, please. So, I want to talk a little bit about how and why we established the committee. Um, you know, it was a little bit different the way I went about doing this and I and I went to the New York still um statute of rights um to kind of start off this committee and there's a key piece of language in there that was the last amendment to the bill of rights and this is that New York State Constitution affirms the right to a healthful environment. We look at that in a variety of ways. We look at in

027terms of air quality. we look at in terms of living in in you know areas that are pleasant but rarely do we actually look at the impact of the environment on humans ability to live well and that's what this is really about and that's why I include that clause in there. Um additionally it does align with our town comprehensive plan. We talk about environmental protection and again to me that is a two-way thing. It's not just about us helping to protect the environment. It's also to ensure that we are managing our land and introducing policies that help protect us from the environment. That is a threat we've seen not just with ticks, we've seen it with the pine beetle. And I think it's something we need to begin to be more proactive with. Finally, um

028you know, this the goal of this committee was to help the committee identify land management, educational strategies, and recommend code changes to mitigate tickborn diseases. So, next slide. The role of the committee here is to educate the public on the disease risk and that's what we're going to do the first part of this meeting this morning is to have the medical experts who are on this committee take you through some of the most prevalent diseases. I do have to apologize Dr. Dempsey who is going to be here in person to do a lot of that presentation is unfortunately sick this morning. He is going to try and zoom in. We have Dr. Campbell and and Jerry Simmons from Southampton Stonybrook on board as well who will talk to some of this as applicable. Um, we're

029also looking to coordinate with the county and the state and medical experts across the region um with the goal here to reduce our disease risk while respecting our environment. Next slide. So, the community members um I'll be very honest with you. I I I felt like I had complete imposter syndrome while sitting on this committee. Um we are incredibly fortunate on the east end to have some outstanding experts in the field of tickborn diseases. Uh Dr. Dempsey is known globally for the work he's done on Lyme disease. Uh Dr. McGinty is is a global specialist at this point in the alpha gal syndrome. Jerry Simmons has been at the forefront of treating this and done presentation and educational strategies across the East End. Uh Dr. Stillman is an emergency medical physician. Some you may recall

030his son uh Abe Stillman was a fantastic student at our high school. Dick Monahan who's been involved in many pieces out here is our committee chair. And you know, Dick, as you mentioned, has has had, you know, real impact from from tickborn diseases. Rich and Terry have been at the forefront of helping us kind of support this initiative. They're out in the field. This is very much about where we have that outdoor lifestyle, how it is impacting us and giving us that feedback. And K Tyler from CCOM has helped give great guidance on how we can improve our educational strategies about this. Um, outside of our volunteer members, we also have um exeicio Dr. Scott Campbell um from Suffach County Health Services is the Aropod uh disease laboratory chief. Um if you ever want to

031know anything about ticks, Dr. Campbell is unbelievable with his depth of knowledge in this field. The natural resources department has weighed in on this. Planning has weighed in. Land management Andy Gates is here today. Thank you for all your support. And the New York State DEC has also been involved helping us guide what we can and cannot do in terms of interventions. Um, with that, I'm not sure who we have on the Zoom at this point. Uh, Dr. Campbell, I believe you're on. Uh, can we just identify, uh, which of the other committee members are on the Zoom call at this point? >> Jason, we got them muted. >> Um, Dr. Campbell is not right now, but uh, I would appreciate everyone just stating uh, who they are. >> Uh, Tom, this is Joshua Stillman.

032Dr. Stillman. >> Thank you, Dr. Stillman. >> Hi. Uh this is Scott Campbell. >> Thank you, Dr. Campbell. >> Okay. All right. Um I I Dr. Dempsey was going to take us through these initial slides. Um I will do my best to discuss some of them. I have asked Dr. Campbell to um give some guidance where I might miss some key points here. Um and Dr. Stillman too. I I know that you've done a huge amount of research into this. So I will hit the bullet points but if there's pieces you wish to add about any diseases as I conclude the slide please do feel free to jump in here. Um so the first of the tickborn diseases and the one we most commonly know here is Lyme disease. It's caused by a bacterium boreella

033burgoderai. Um it's spread by the blacklegged deer tick. Um most infections are transmitted by nymph stage ticks which are very small and go unnoticed. That's a critical factor will come up in part of Dr. Campbell's presentation later with regards to seasonality and risk exposure for humans. Um symptoms as some of you may have had this they're flu-l like um you know fatigue, fever, muscle aches and joint pain. Um you know if caught early and treated early the effectment is very treated. The problem as Dick called out with his case and I think Nancy called out with her case is that often you know these things go undiagnosed. You think it may be flu so you delay getting treatment. Um Dr. Campbell, Dr. Still, anything you wish to add on Lyme disease particularly? >> Nothing here

034other than I'll I'll touch upon most of the uh diseases how they relate to ticks as I do my slides. So unless there's something >> obvious >> and uh and I would just add that um because it goes undiagnosed often early uh because people don't pay attention to the initial symptoms or they may miss the initial rash that goes with it. Uh the result is that we end up treating it later in the disease uh with some frequency and those complications are bad. >> Thank you. Um the next of the most prevalent diseases we face on the end east end isoliciosis. Again this is a bacterial infection. This comes from the lonear ticks. That was the image you saw at the start of the presentation. Symptoms for this typically develop one to two weeks after

035the bite. Uh they include fever, headache, muscle aches, nausea and vomiting. The rash in the case of this bite is relatively uncommon. um critical symptoms that you might identify low white blood cells, low platelet counts and elevated liver enzymes. Uh treatment for this antibiotics are critical. Next we go on to uh the next kind of most common out here is um an anoplasmosis. Again a bacterial infection from deer ticks. Once again symptoms one to two weeks after a tick bite. Fever, headache, fatigue. Again the rash is rare. You will potentially see blood count abnormalities with this. And again, the treatment for this as with bacterial infections is antibiotic treatments. And then the the fourth of the most common diseases we faced on the east end is besiosis. This is somewhat different. It's a parasitic infection

036of the red blood cells. It's spled spread by the blacklegged deer ticks. Symptoms include fever, chills, sweats, fatigue, and muscle aches. Can can cause anemia. It presents a higher risk to older populations. Uh and this does require specific medit medications for treatment. And the last of the diseases I wanted to highlight today is the relatively new one which many of you have heard about. This is the alpha gal uh syndrome. Uh this impacts a specific subset of the population. Uh it's an allergy to alpha gal which is a carbohydrate present in mamalian meat. So effectively any hooved animal be it a deer, goat, pig, cow. Uh that's when you're going to see a reaction from this this um uh bite. Uh this develops from lonear tick bites. Uh reaction occurs hours after eating red meat.

037This is not an infection. So antibiotics do not help in the treatment of this. Um and avoiding new bites improves symptoms. If you are infected with this and diagnosed with it, it's critical to kind of get that continue testing to see if your levels have dropped off to um mitigate your risk to this disease. So when to seek medical care? Um, if you develop fever, chills, fatigue, headache, muscle aches, or joint pain within days or weeks after a tick bite or outdoor exposure, seek medical care. If you develop a new rash, expect especially ones expanding, unusual, or appears or days to weeks after possible tick exposure, seek medical care. If symptoms are severe, worsening, or include shortness of breath, chest pain, confusion, or weakness, again, speak to your doctor. Or if you become ill after

038a tick bite, you have risk factors for uh severe disease, you you're senior, uh you have immune compromise or an absence of a spleen. Uh these are situations where if you are exposed to a tick or possible tick bite, you need to seek medical care. And why does early treatment matter? Next slide. Um as Dr. Campbell and Dr. Stilman mentioned earlier, delayed treatment uh in these instance can severely complicate your health situation. uh can have mitigating effect packs on the heart, joints and nervous system. Um ideally if you are bitten by a tick or if you go outside you need to have that tick off you within 24 hours to reduce your risk of Lyme disease transmission. Uh and when you go to the doctor you know just as part of your annual checkup talk

039to them about recent tick bites or outdoor exposure. Uh early medical evaluation is important because timely diagnosis and treatment prevent these diseases becoming more serious. And with that, I'm going to pass over to Dr. Campbell, who will take us into a bit more detail about the specifics of tick life cycles and how to prevent um disease mitigation. Thank you. >> Hi everyone. Uh thanks for having me. Um all ticks have the same stages, egg, larvae, nymph, and a male and female adult. Um eggs are laid for this is the um blacklegged tick or deer tick life cycle. Eggs are laid by the uh female in spring. The eggs will mature and hatch in the summer. Those larve will generally feed on small mammals like mice or birds. Um they'll they'll also feed on deer and

040things like that, but they're down low in the leaf litter. So they're really uh it's a contact um it's a it's the contact of these small larve in the leaf litter as the birds and the mice run through the leaf litter. So, um they end up feeding on on the um the hosts that are that are close to the ground. Um larve have six legs and that's how you can tell a larvae from uh the other stages. Um it's the white-footed mouse that has the pathogens that it picks up um like the uh germ that causes Lyme disease. That bacterium is in the in the body of the mouse. It doesn't affect the mouse. The mouse lives uh quite happily with it through its entire life. But every tick that feeds on an infected mouse

041will pick up those that pathogen. Um and then it will pass it on to another mouse or a human or anything else that it bites. Um that larvae after taking a blood meal, it will malt and uh emerge the following year as a eight-legged nymph. And so again, if that larvae feeds on an infected mouse, that nymph is infected. And you can see that um that darkened area showing the risk of uh Lyme disease is greatest in in the summer. And it's because those nymphs are so small um they're often missed. Um even though the adults actually have another or the nymphs feed again, the adult infection rate is approximately twice the nyal infection rate. But because the the adults are larger, um the the females are the ones that transmit the pathogen uh that

042causes the tickborn diseases. Um they're often found because they are larger and they're uh attached longer. So um so it's but it's that less infected nymph that's smaller that increases the risk. So that's why we see most of the tickborn illnesses um in the spring and summer months. um that that nymph if it feeds on uh a small uh mammal or you can see it also will will feed on larger mammals and humans. Um if it feeds and is able to uh go back into the environment uh and and mol it emerges that following fall that fall um as an either a female or a male. Um those are very uh dependent on um deer. They they primarily will attach and feed on deer. Uh males typically don't feed. Uh they don't have the ability

043to engorg on blood, but they kind of sip fluid, so they they stay hydrated. Uh females will take a blood meal. Uh they will drop off and then they overwinter and the following spring they will lay their eggs. And and so that's a two-year uh life cycle. Uh and the process continues. Blacklegged ticks lay about 2,000 eggs. the female will lay about 2,000 eggs and uh lonear ticks which also are very dependent on deer um they lay about 6,000 eggs. So u only you know one female can can really uh put a lot of larve into the environment just by by feeding uh that once and then after the female lays the eggs the female dies uh and the eggs hatch and and larve uh nymphs and adults and the cycle continues. Uh next slide.

044So uh the three most important ticks uh for a uh medical perspective are the American dog tick, the lonear tick and the blacklegged tick. So th this figure shows the activity. American dog ticks. Only the adult will bite humans and that's why we only have it here. Uh larvia nymphs uh strictly bite only rodents. So they will never bite a human. So they come out in the spring and they'll they'll be around through the spring and summer until they either die or they find a host. Lonear ticks in the spring. The adults emerge first and slight uh with the nymphs coming quickly behind. So in the spring to early summer, we have adult and nymph lonear ticks present. Um those adults uh when they take a blood meal they'll lay eggs and out will come

045or they'll lay eggs and the the laral lonear ticks will come out. Uh they're called chiggers erroneously. Chiggers are actually true chiggers or mites that are found down south. Um we don't have chiggers here on Long Island although um people call them uh larvalone sartix chiggers uh in error. So, um, but they they will bite humans in large numbers. Typically, as I said, the female lays 6,000 eggs. Um, and so you walk through a cluster that's about 3 foot in diameter, you're going to pick up dozens, if not hundreds of uh larve, and it creates a huge uh red welty uh mass of bites that itches like crazy. Um, blacklegged ticks are are present year all year long. Um, in the spring we have the nymphs come out. Um, as I said in the earlier

046life cycle, they will feed um and then uh mol and come out in the fall as adults. Those adults will feed um and lay eggs in the spring and then the larve will emerge. What's important to realize uh in Suffach County um any degree day above 40° you will have active adult blacklegged ticks and the risk of acquiring uh Lyme disease and and uh anoplasmosis and besiosis. Um it so we always have to take precautions with regards to um with regards to tickborn diseases. So it doesn't matter. I mean, you know, when it's snow covered, uh, that's that's a different story. They can't quest. They can't, uh, you know, bite, uh, hosts, but as soon as that snow is gone, they are actively questing, looking for, uh, a blood meal. Uh, next slide. >> So,

047um, so the the habitat that they're found in um varies and a lot of it depends on how the uh, tick is um, deals with desiccation. Um, you can see the questing tick on the right. That's what they do. They just kind of hang out. They wait for a host to come by and then they will uh um attach to the the uh fur, attach to the pant leg and then look for a place to to feed. Uh the blacklegged tick, they're more susceptible to desiccation. So, they like the the damp woodlands of the leaf litter and the and the uh shade uh produced by the trees. So uh they they also then are are close to deer and and mice and that's what they feed on primarily. American dog ticks are less susceptible to

048desiccation and can be found in warmer drier fields. Lonear ticks are also not susceptible to desiccation uh as much as the blacklegged tick and they can be found anywhere the deer are which is everywhere. Um so they they um they will be found in in wood wooded areas. They will be found in in drier fields, ecotones, and disturbed areas uh like we know that deer like to to be at. Um and also importantly, these ticks can be found in paradomemestic areas which are around our homes and especially in lawns. If you look down in the bottom right, you can see the the uh tick mouth part. That's called a hypos. It's basically a barbed mouth part that that is what goes into u the skin and it will that those barbs hold the tick there

049as it feeds. Uh the smaller ticks the larve and uh the nymphs feed for 2 to 3 days whereas the adult feeds for seven. Um, as it's feeding, the saliva goes from the tick to into the bite. And as that saliva goes in, it brings the germs or the pathogens with it that the tick might have. And there depending on the pathogen you have a window um and it can range from 15 minutes which is the window for uh virus um which is very short uh to uh 36 hours or so for the u bacterium that causes Lyme disease. So that time allows us uh time to take that tick off. So, it's very very important to do frequent tick checks, especially when you're outdoors, to get those ticks off as soon as possible to

050reduce your risk of any transfer of pathogens while it's attached and feeding. Next slide. So, what can we do? Um, I I I gave you uh the different areas, the landscapes that these ticks um live in. Uh, so, you know, moisture has a lot to do with it. So if we remove leaf litter and underbrush both hold moisture to the ground and if it the drier the ground is the less um ability the tick is to survive. So you know we don't have to make uh you know our lawn the Sahara but the drier it is the the the increased risk of the ticks not surviving. So so we have to think of those things. So if we remove leaf litter, any kind of uh vegetation that is not wanted, um remove um lawn maintenance,

051you want to keep the grass low. Um and water as infrequently as possible. Again, you don't want to kill your grass, but you u you don't want to have it very plush and and and moist so the ticks can survive. With regards to barriers, we can create physical barriers like a fence uh or or um a walkway, right? you're walking on paved po paved um pavement as opposed to walking in leaf litter or u or grass. Chemicals can be used to create like a repellent barrier or or to kill um anything in that area. So um some of the uh landscape management suggests making a three-foot barrier from the edge of your property next to the woods. So any ticks that are in the woods, as they crawl into your yard, they they won't survive

052that um that movement. Um the also thing is you want to minimize host habitat. You don't want to bring deer into your yard. You don't want to have um areas where rodents can live. So you want deer resistant plants. You don't want them coming in feeding on your arborite. If if you see that, you know that they're coming in and they're potentially dropping ticks off. um piles of wood of wood, uh debris is all going to be rodent habitat. Um and clearly you don't want to feed wildlife. That's go obviously bringing them in um in into your property. So you want to do things like habitat modifications to reduce the likelihood of hosts coming in and therefore you're going to reduce host abundance. Next slide. Uh so there there are some ways of of actually

053targeting hosts. Um, most people know about the for poster program. Uh, deer come into these units to feed on corn as they put their head into those rollers. Um, there's a pesticide that goes onto the deer. Um, that kills the ticks uh that um that are on the deer and they they move it around by grooming grooming each other. Uh, and uh so that's one way to target the ticks on deer. tick tubes um are peromethine coco coated cotton balls. Rodents pick these cotton balls up and um we'll take them back to the burrows and they'll sleep in them. Um the tick control system is is kind of like a foroster program for rodents. They go in to feed uh and there there's perometh there's sorry there's pesticide wicked on them as they go in

054and it kills the uh pesticides that way. The for poster program obviously targets deer and deer are important for um the adult stages of the blacklegged tick um and all stages of the lonear tick. So so programs that have used for posters in their tick management strategies see a reduction um in both of those tick species and we'll talk about that in a second. tick tubes and the tick control system targets rodents and that is primarily a target for the blacklegged tick which is important because the number one tick born illness is black is um Lyme disease. So, if you can uh target the blacklegged tick, which transmits Lyme disease, by using tick tubes or tick control system, you're going to hopefully have an impact um from that angle, but it does not do anything

055for the lonear ticks because they are feeding primarily on the deer. Next slide. So these are uh this is kind of a summary of some of the important studies that have happened that kind of um you know suggest that deer are um important in the life cycles of the uh the ticks both blacklegged and lonear ticks. So if you look uh you know C CDC basically gives gives out a general um mention that that whitetail deer are important in the life cycle of blacklegged ticks but they're also important in the life cycle of lonear ticks. So what happens if you do something with the deer either treat them uh with a chemical like uh for the for poster or if you reduce the number of deer. So, the a Mumford Coats study found a a

056again a a big reduction in um tick and risks of tickborne illnesses uh by reducing the number of uh deer at in that location in Connecticut. And you can see the numbers. I mean, it's significant. Um there was a huge USDA northeast um areawide tick control project where they had seven locations uh in the northeast where they used a for poster and they too found a huge reduction in uh the number of ticks and the risk of Lyme disease uh by reducing the uh number of ticks and the infection rate. So uh you know both of both those were effective at reducing the risk of of various diseases. Also in the Gibson Island in Maryland, they too uh saw a reduction in the blacklegged and lonear ticks by just using the for poster, but they

057didn't look at the infection rates uh or the um the number of cases, which was the o the only real study out there that looks at the number of Lyme disease cases uh with regards to reduction of deer uh is the Mumford Cove. That's kind of like uh the only one. So, but clearly deer are important uh in in the host life cycle. Uh I I should add that deer also are the reservoir for uh ericchiaensis which is the primary uh germ that causes ericchiosis. So like the u the mouse that is the reservoir for the bacteria that causes Lyme disease, deer are the reservoir for the bacterium that causes uriciosis which is what transmitted by the lonear tick and obviously lonear ticks feed on deer. So um it's a it's a combination of reducing

058um the number of deer in an area to reduce that risk either physically by removing them in a deer management strategy or u treating them with a topical pesticide to reduce the number of uh ticks that will successfively feed on the deer. Next slide. So a caride. So when when you uh apply um pesticide to a lawn, there's there's strategies that make it more effective. Um you know, you don't want to just spray um you know, to and try to you know, just overwhelm them. You want to do a targeted because you don't want any negative impacts of any kind of applications. So tick surveillance, do you really have a problem? So there's a way to do surveillance on a property. Uh it's called flagging or dragging. uh but you actually look for the ticks.

059So if you flag and you find a tick ticks in like the back of your yard and not on the sides or in your yard, you know where to target that application. Um so basically that is dragging a piece of cloth over your property or over a an area. It can be a park if you're going to do some sort of application. And then you'll you'll actually see the ticks will are questing. They will attach to the cloth. You can remove them. You'll know exactly where they are. And then you can target those areas. You want to do timely applica applications to to maximize the control. You saw all those bell-shaped curves of all those tick activities. You don't want to spray at the end of the bell-shaped curve. You want to spray in the

060beginning of the bell-shaped curve so that that pesticide is actively killing ticks when they're emerging and when they're coming out. Area wide treatment may not be necessary. You can you don't have to spray an entire yard unless it unless needed and tick surveillance typically will tell you that. But you can create a targeted barrier treatment as I mentioned before and maybe that's that's enough to have to prevent the ticks from coming from the side your the side woods or or anything where the ticks may be coming from um rather than spraying a an area wide treatment. Usually we use we prefer pesticides that have low toxicity to humans and pets. Um one of the classes is pythroidids. Um it's it's um the same class that peromethine is in. Uh peromethine is one of the repellents

061that u is commonly used by many many people. It binds uh to uh the soil and the plants so it doesn't leech into the groundwater uh and there it breaks down over time. Um and and it also also has a very long residual maybe 60 to 90 days. So you you're only applying it once as opposed to applying it every two weeks like some of the other uh pesticides that are out there. So you want something with a longer residual and that's that way you're not missing any of those um any of those bell-shaped curve tick activities. And of course we always apply um pesticides according to the label to prevent any kind of negative impact or runoff issues. Next slide. So how do you prevent tick bites? Well, clearly you want to keep the

062ticks off of you. So, how do you do that? I mean, you can avoid tick habitat. Um, we've got a wonderful county, a lot to do in it, and and so, you know, those that enjoy the outdoors, it's very hard to just avoid tick habitat. So, there's different strategies you can use to to reduce your risk of being bitten. So, obviously, you don't directly sit on the ground. You want to you you want to stay off of that of that um tick habitat. So um but also by walking in the center of foot paths, you know, the edges of the foot path typically are riskier than the center. Most most center pa of paths are dry and you know beaten down by traffic. So that's going to be a drier environment. So ticks aren't going

063to be there, but if you stray off that path and you go into the leaf litter or into the brush, you're going to increase your risk of being bitten. Um you want to use a a physical barrier, um which is clothing, right? So, and you want the ticks are coming from the ground or the or the brush, you know, below the knees typically. They don't drop from trees. They don't fly. So, so if you tuck your uh pants into your socks, that's going to prevent them from getting up under your pants. If you tuck your shirt into your uh pants, they won't be able to get up underneath your shirt. So, if you tuck all these pieces of clothing in, they're not going to be able to get in. They're going to be in the

064outside of your clothing. and hopefully you'll be able to see them during frequent tick checks while you're outdoors and remove them before they're able to get into areas and start to feed. Um hats, you know, you'll see that and often a lot of the um literature that's out there and really it it's not like they, as I said, they don't drop from trees. They are um but they they can people with long hair, you know, if it's down on your back, if some a tick crawls up your back and you don't see it, it can get into your hair. So, typically we advise people with long hair just put it up in a a bun or put it up under a hat to keep it off of your neck. That way, if you feel a

065tick, hopefully crawling on the back of your neck, you'll be able to remove it before it gets into your uh hairline. You want to check frequently for ticks. As I've already mentioned, when you're outdoors, check every 15, 20 minutes. You want to get the the ticks while they're still crawling on you as opposed to uh uh trying to attach. When you when you have a day in tick territory that night, check yourself well for for tick checks. Oftentimes, uh the ticks will be on areas that you can't really see when you're looking at a mirror uh in the front. So, make sure you check the back of your arms, the back of your legs, your back. And you know, you may need two mirrors. You know, one uh you know, using the angles of the

066mirrors just so you can check the back. If you have somebody that can help you do a tick check, even better. But you want to check it at night. What I also uh like to suggest is doing a tick check the following morning because if you miss a tick um they will start to attach overnight and that little tick now is bigger from the standpoint that it the redness around the attachment site will will kind of draw your eye to it. So it's that makes it that much easier to see the following morning. So basically, you want to do a tick check when you brush your teeth at night and when you brush your teeth in the morning. You want you want to kind of get in the habit of just doing tick checks morning

067and night because you can see the risk in Suffach County is year-long. Um you can consider using a tick repellent. I've already mentioned uh peromethine. Uh the the the repellent should be EPA registered. Um EPA registration back is backed by science and that science tells you how long it lasts, what the uh relication is. if it's not an EPA approved uh pesticide um you know that science just isn't there and you know you don't know uh really how effective they are um de is another one picaridin um those are the primary ones that we see in the stores here IR 3535 is just starting to be used but if you go on CDC's website you there there are about six or seven of them that are listed but uh those are the main ones and

068again I I mentioned that the clothes uh that they don't like that they desecate and so if you are out just take your clothes off and put them right in a dryer for 10 minutes. Don't wash them first. They can survive in a um a clothes washer, hot water, uh bleach, soap, it doesn't kill them. So, you want to just take your clothes off, put them right in the dryer first. And once they're they're heated with that uh heat um or treated with that heat, they will be uh that your that clothing will be tick-free. So now you can either hang it up and use it if you're it's you know working uh clothes for gardening or you can wash it. Um and and so uh you want to treat it first. Next slide. >>

069I'll jump back in here. Thank you very much Dr. Campbell. You're welcome. Um so so in terms of the followup um you know as we've been running this committee we've concurrently um been meeting with the town's wildlife committee um we've relatively early identified that the deer are critical intervention point and and obviously that uh for many in the town is is a contentious issue and there's a a strong emotional attachment to deer which is very understandable. So, you know, in terms of methods to to manage um deer's impact on tickborn diseases, we've been meeting with that committee and we're looking to come back in about 6 to 8 weeks for a work session to present what their recommendations are for uh uh methods to to manage deer's impact on tickborn diseases. Um this presentation itself,

070thank you Terry for calling this out earlier, we will be translating this into Spanish. Uh it will be on the town website. Uh we're also going to be meeting with the municipal partners, the school districts uh and other regional organizations uh just to increase this kind of awareness to to um tickborn diseases. And the last thing we're looking to do is work with our local healthcare providers uh potentially develop either an app or something on the town website um to help track um tick interactions across the town. I think it's a great idea with the signage. I would love to put up at some of our more common recreation areas with a QR code that people can actually link into this presentation and understand if they're potentially entering an area that is high ticket risk.

071Um so that that will be coming in the next 6 to 8 weeks. Um that's everything I have. The rest of this deck is just some of the sources we've used for this. That's one thing I really kind of want to emphasize from this presentation is that all the medical advice that we're giving in this is not stuff that's just come from us. This is CDC guidance. Um it's government information. So it is very well resourced. Um with that um I if it's okay with you supervisor I would you know if my colleagues have any questions or any of the uh members of the public have any questions feel free to ask. >> I I have some questions if David do you want to go first? >> No I well thank you Tom for bringing

072this forward and thank you to the committee. Dr. Campbell, your presentation was sort of enlightening um in so much ways um I have to do better uh what I do for my kids and myself personally and some of the ways that we treat it. Um I remember growing up out here and we were able to play in the woods and go enjoy ourselves, but I I actually don't let my kids go in the woods anymore. >> I think that's sort of a shame uh unless they're on a path or we have to take extra precautions. So that's a freedom of uh youth growing up in East Hampton I think is missed unfortunately. But what you just laid out there was from the beginning of of tick to the carrier host to what we can do

073as parents. I I see the I I work through the lens of my kids, everyone. Uh what we can do for our children uh to try to protect them at the earlier stage and as we move forward. I'm I'm a little overwhelmed by the information. So I'm sorry I'm stunned on that because it's a lot to take in and it was empowering. So I thank you for that. >> Thank you. Um, so first I want to thank everyone on the committee and Tom for uh really uh having an in-depth discussion about this issue. Um, we've had ticks around. When I was young, you never even thought of not being in the woods or in the beach grass or jumping off the dunes for fun um and running around. Unfortunately, in today's world, these these options

074are limited. Um, and it's really important to be educated on this. And I think the most important part of what you're all doing is bringing this to the forefront of everyone's education. Uh because we have a tendency, you know, we've had dealt with them for such a long time. It's tick tick ticks and that's all you ever hear. But you don't hear options on what you can do. Um that I do have a couple of follow-up questions and comments. One when um I know that um I've been to you know gotten found a tick on me. I don't really know because you hear different things all the time the proper way to remove a tick if I find it. Do I have should I go to a health care professional to have it removed? Um,

075also, uh, what is timely treatment? Because it seems, I don't know if there's consensus, but I've been to, uh, not my regular doctor, but and not in East Hampton, but I've gotten a tick on me, gotten a bullseye rash, gone to a walk-in, and been told, "We we're not treating it unless you have more symptoms." So just clarification on what timely treatment actually means, the protocols for timely treatment is important um for me to know because I get conflicting information on that. Uh one of the issues with one of the with treating things with chemicals is that unfortunately the chemicals don't only affect ticks and it they affect bees and pollinators that we need as well. So, I just want to folks to have the full information on if they do choose like I in

076the past have used peppermint wood oil sprayed through my property because it it's not a chemical. However, it's an oil that lands on bees that also kills the bees. So, how do we >> I will just quickly to jump on that one. that is a major concern shared by the wildlife committee too and in as much um I I can give some kind of insight they're leaning uh that is a secondary option um and there is indication from the DC that fewer and fewer municipalities are using um the for poster program as a result of that >> oh I didn't know that impacted the for poster I was just thinking of property spraying I do see people's properties getting sprayed weekly so I'm really glad that you brought up that that's very ineffective and um

077it gives people even worse from being ineffective. What it does is give people a false sense of security. Um, another thing that uh a way that I get ticks is that I get them from my dogs. My dogs have are long-haired golden retrievers. They're white, but still the ticks are nimble and get in there quick. Well, they're protected and there they actually have vaccinations against Lyme disease. I think we have to be careful when our pets come back in as well. Um, there's a there's the kind of sticky tape or and and again, please research this. I'm not offering this as a advice to anybody, but there's like tick mitts that you could brush down your dogs with to to help with that type of infestation. Um, and uh, unfortunately, again, the other situation is

078with leaf litter, there's very potential benefits and pollinators and other beneficial insects that are in the litter. So, it's kind of a tossup because as we lose those, uh, we lose, um, you know, they support our life. Um, and we've had had a very big problem with the loss of our bees and pollinators and extinction of these beneficial species. So, there's that balance for that as well. And, and just be thoughtful. Um, and as you recommended and as the doctor recommended, target, don't blanket uh things. Uh it it's it we we want to avoid as many impacts in getting rid of these ticks which you know doesn't everybody want to just stab that piece of paper in the picture of the tick? I mean it's uh it's really put a a limit on people's lives

079out here and also risks to their lives. So it's a very serious uh topic. One last thing because I'm taking up so much time is that I just want to acknowledge that um our infestations and the increase in our infestations also are happening because of the climate crisis and the change in the climate crisis which are bringing us the southern pine beetle key word there southern we're in the north and also spreading um westnile disease uh bringing it up and ma even malaria up north as the mosquitoes infest infected by them can survive um in our area. So, I just want to acknowledge that as another cause of of what we're seeing here. But I I really want to thank everybody for really bringing this to attention and offering us ways to deal with it.

080Um it it's a topic that needs constant reminder. >> Dr. Campbell, do you want to speak briefly because we have discussed the kind of most effective means of tick removal. >> Sure. I um the best way to remove a tick is just to use a fine tipped pair of tweezers. gras grasp it as close to the skin as possible and pull it out. Um you if you remember the the figure that I had that hyposone that barbed implement that's the only thing that goes into the skin. It doesn't burrow under the skin. U so all you need to do is grasp it firmly and pull it straight out. They actually secrete a cement that that makes them stick better. So it's sometimes it's tough to get that that tick off, but if you grasp it

081close to the skin and pull straight up, that will re release it. The hypos may break off and stay in the skin, but it's not infectious. What happens is a lot of people will start digging out that hypos and they end up infecting the skin uh by by doing that digging. So the best thing to do is just if that hypos is there just put a little bit of a topical antibiotic on it uh neosporin and cover it with a bandage that will slough off in about one to two weeks. So rather than dig just remove it that way. Um there a couple of other things I note some of your questions. May I continue? >> Yes please. >> Sure. So uh the one thing is you talked about your dog and the vaccine. Unfortunately,

082dogs are also susceptible to anoplasmosis or lichiosis and beesiosis. So, you don't you want to do tick checks on your pets as well as they come inside. You need to really check them, get any ticks off because you don't want them bringing them into your home. That, you know, you don't even step out. The dog goes out, comes in, now you're at risk of of be of acquiring a tick bite and you didn't even leave your living room. So, you want to do tick checks as your your your companion animals go in and out. Um, and as I and as you mentioned, they there is a vaccine, but it's not as effect. It's only one of many uh pathogens that that these animals can acquire. So, you need to do those tick checks. Um the

083other thing is when when people spray for uh spray for ticks, I mentioned mentioned about desiccation, you know, they actually have to go back down to the ground and rehydrate and then they come back up into the leaf litter or into the vegetation. So So if somebody is spraying their um yard for ticks, they don't need to spray the flowers where the bees are going to pollinate. If they spray under the vegetation at the ground level, even if there are ticks in the vegetation, they will eventually have to go into the ground, go back to the ground to rehydrate. And as they do that, they will die. So, you don't want to spray the you don't want to spray uh flowers or that that vegetation because you will impact pollinators uh butterflies as well, which

084which is which is not a good thing. So if you really target that application at the ground where you know the pollinate pollinators won't be, you won't have that impact. >> That's very good information. Thank you. Yeah, I appreciate that. That's that's great information. Thank you. >> C can we ask Dr. Campbell, what about the the comment Kate made about, you know, timely treatment where you go to the walk-in and they may say, well, you know, I'm not having any other symptoms and now's not the time. >> Actually, I'm not a physician. And if Dr. Stillman wants to uh address that, >> I'm a scientist, not a physician. So, >> I'm sorry, I have to hear the question again. >> Uh, so I what I asked, this is Kate Rogers. Uh, what I asked about

085is uh uh different trends in treating um treating you when you have the tick either still on you, but you or you've developed a red rash. Um, I've gotten conflicting information going to walkins, not in this town. um on you know we don't first there was a time where everybody got doxy uh you know the the quick dose of doxy early immediately and now it seems to be different so my uh they will it won't be prescribed in certain cases for that rash so when we say timely treatment is essential what does timely mean >> uh I think the the best answer I can give you would be one in which um uh in which we divide it up into the time the the tick bite has occurred. Um if there is no rash then

086there is a debate over how whether to treat with a single dose of doxy and and um I think you know I would er on the side of caution with that and and treat but it could mean people get treated many times over the course of a year in a place like where we live and so the hesitation is about overtreating people and creating antibiotic resistance >> that you might see once somebody has a rash there shouldn't be any debate about how to treat. >> Thank you. That's very good to know. >> The best location uh for information on how to treat would be the CDC website because it's kept up to date >> and that will be posted on the town website too. The link. >> Thank you. Thank you so much. >> Yeah.

087I also actually wanted to just ask a question or or or say from everything I've been able to read the four poster system uh is a is a targeted uh way of delivering uh an aaraside and from what I see it has very little environmental impact to other insects. Um you know we mentioned we always worry about bees and pollinators but we also probably should worry about spiders and who who keep the mosquito population at bay. But um but but I'm under the impression that the foroster system is pretty good in terms of preventing uh widespread application of anaraside. >> Dr. Stillman, it is um it does have some challenges. That's something we're going to review in the wildlife committee presentation, but I will keep the tick committee updated on that. The pros and the

088cons of the four poster. >> Yeah, thank you Tom and thanks to the committee. Um, this was very, very enlightening. You know, obviously we all know that ticks are a huge problem out here, but um, I certainly didn't know all of these details. Um, you know, with the snow finally melting yesterday was such a beautiful day. I took my dog for a walk in the woods for the first time and he came back with two ticks. Um, I'm I'm cognizant of the fact that, you know, hunters and um, you know, Kate brought up the idea of putting just pesticides out in the world. We don't want to do that. It is targeted. Um, but I know there's some debate about whether it's a good idea or not. So, I'm not necessarily endorsing it, but I

089do do I will just say that I think that addressing the population both of ticks and deer um you know seems to be effective and I think is at the core of our problem here. So, uh thanks for a very enlightening um you know presentation and look forward to to what comes next. >> Hey Tom, could I mention one more thing? Of >> course. Yeah, absolutely. Um I just want to point out that our population um of uh the human population itself is really interesting population and we have a lot of commuters who go back and forth to New York who can bring ticks with them there but more importantly they bring tickborne diseases uh to New York and to other places where our tourists come from. So our our issues don't just affect our

090local population although obviously we are all most affected by it but it affects a lot of our uh commuters and I think that has an impact for detecting the diseases. They don't necessarily they're not necessarily as aware of the diseases as we might be locally. >> Agree. >> Just sort of an interesting >> I would assume that impacts reporting too because our numbers are lower >> because they're not reporting them here. >> Yeah. I'm going to try to make this so quick. I know everybody this has been amazing. Thank you so much for bringing it up. It is probably the most important thing out here in my lifetime. Um we won't even touch upon the fact that in the late stages of tick born diseases you get suicidal as well and I have personally lost

091a friend to Lyme disease um from suicide. So I have so many things I'm going to try to make it under two minutes. Ready? The first thing is uh on behalf of Dr. McGinty, Alpha Gal is an allergy. Okay? So you are you are to see an allergist, not a doctor for alpha. Number two, I think we're underestimating educating our children while we're out looking out for them. There should absolutely starting this year behind thing on ticks and explaining to them what to look out for. Um I know more than enough kids that have had bely um and their parents had no idea. Sadly in my case um I won't reveal the doctor but mine was diagnosed as menopause and five other women that I know had were diagnosed menopause until they were in the

092hospital. So, we have to really do better at um making sure our doctors, you know, that's an empirical approach to Lyme disease where you do all the testing. And as much as I completely understand the importance of what Dr. Stillman is saying in regards to you don't want to over medicate. You also don't want to undermedate because as we stated before you know when this thing gets into your body and reres havoc you are looking at years of recovery as opposed to weeks. So, you know, as someone that really really took in, I know Dick said he was, um, incredly, I would like to suggest as the dreamer here, um, that we have an epicenter in either East Hampton or Montto. If someone's looking for a million-doll idea, we should have a blind doctor specialist

093or some kind of location that can get this information out. I don't know if it's at third house, but man, I'm talking three years ago, I was in the woods. I was ready to go out to Colorado and have my blood transplanted because I couldn't get up in the morning. And luckily my journey um we had stand wellness out here and I was able to combat it with both um I had to know have I'm a musician. I'm not really looking to spend5 to$10,000 on having uh vitamins to supplement but that's really what it took to get me back. So, um, yeah, that's it. I would just say really let's not underestimate the education here. I don't it takes having 2,000 larvy. >> This is not going away anytime soon, even if we eradicate the

094deer. So, really, I think the education is our end a joint, you know, waiters should know what Alpha Gal is out here. >> Yeah. No, look, I I and I want to clarify one thing there. There's no plan to eradicate the deer. Um, you know, but we we have identified that the deer are a major host for the ticks and a way to make that intervention. What the wildlife committee is looking at is, you know, look, what are the economic impacts there? What does a healthy deer population look like in this town? Um, we we see over 500 vehicle accidents with deer every year. Um, you know, people's local habitats destroyed. You know, we love seeing the deer, too. I I love driving home at night and seeing deer on the street, but we have

095to find that right balance where we can manage this disease through managing the deer population and understand where the impacts are. >> Yeah, like I said, walk in the whole other thing. I mean, you do a beautiful job clearing shad more. Maybe they read there's a little bit more um in the parks and recreation united front where they're clearing in East Hampton. It's not exclusive to Mont. >> Yeah. The uh the deer brows also impacts us economically and our our physical health through the transmission of these diseases, but also impacts our environment by causing deforestation when the understory is completely cleared out by the deer. We're seeing forest only mature trees existing and there's nothing to come up um to replace anything as they age. They they trees also have a lifespan. So when you

096have everything wiped out by the deer, um it is uh it it does impact the environment as well. >> Yeah. >> Yes. Yes. >> A quick thing. Um so as a sufferer of alpha for many many years, um I believe in treated clothing. I I've personally found it pretty effective. So that's one targeted way that you can relax your wrist a little bit. Uh but in terms of the fore posters which you always intrigued me uh and I know we talked about them for years and I've kind of asked people randomly how come we're not doing it and what's going someone has told me it's expense I don't you know but I understand I may be wrong that deer are territorial that is to say a herd of deer doesn't go from lighthouse to they

097stay in some sort of range and in terms of neighborhoods I live in neighborhood where I will bet you we could get a whole bunch of neighbors together and install a for poster at our own expense and we would at least treat the deer in that area presumably. But I wonder if things like that are being considered if we're going to consider allowing for post. >> So for posters do come with some very stringent DEC guidance of you know what the vicinity is to border bodies and and the public as to where they can be used. There is also a significant cost associated with them. The amount of corn that the deer go through is incredible. Uh and we'll we'll do that presentation with the wildlife committee. Um you know, so they're they're not unproat.

098They they have certain issues. I I agree. Treated clothing is like almost a must. Like if you know you're going out to garden or or go on the trails, like wear long pants that's treated with peromethine, you know, and that will will last the 90 days. Um but yeah, we we'll do a full presentation on the for poster program as part of the wildlife committee, what their concerns are with it and bring that recommendation to the board as like look the these are the actions we believe you should be taking to to manage that aspect of the risk. >> This was a really really valuable presence >> and I think what we can do is we can obviously we can build on this. Maybe we could create short videos out of what was presented today.

099Uh, we have a second quarter newsletter going out that goes townwide, 20,000 households. We can do a piece, Patrick, on, you know, pulling information from here to get that out with a QR code that can take you to this presentation or take you to the LTV presentation. So, I think we can, you know, work with our social media and, you know, and the timing is, I mean, is perfect, right? You made this presentation. and we're a couple weeks from spring and you're saying that the risk of human infection is greatest in late spring and early summer. So now's the time we need to, you know, get this message out. >> Thank you uh to the committee. Thank you very very much for your incredible time in bringing this together. Uh you've all been fantastic. So

100thank you. >> Thanks everyone. All right. So, we're going to move out on to our next uh presentation and that's the Springs Library parking lot capital project. And I know Ian, if you want to introduce it. I know we've got Matt Jedla from MLAN here who's the town engineer. Um >> yeah, you want to set it up first? >> Sure, that'd be great. Yeah. Thank you, Matt, for for your work on this and for being here today who who's really done the heavy lifting here. This came about, you know, I've been the Springs liaison to the Springs CAC into the Springs Hamlet since I've been on the town board. Um, and very early, you know, parking and safety in general has been a a conversation. You know, both speeding, pedestrian safety, and uh and parking.

101There's a lot of events. You know, I think Springs has really been a um an active hamlet in a in a good way. You know, the heart of Springs uh the Springs Fest that's happened the last couple years has been great. There's a farmers market that takes place at Ashblock Hall. Um, as Lauren mentioned, there's Ma Jong at the library and and uh we recently restored the Parsons Blissmith Shop. Springs Historical Society has done a great job of cleaning that out. Um, and it's seen more use. And the problem is is when we have events in Springs, there just is not enough parking. And so, even the library itself has has substandard parking. This parking lot would serve the library directly um but also the area around it. And the goal is to provide, you

102know, extra parking with the the the most minimal impact possible. And this particular area behind the library, I think, was brought to me, frankly, because I think this conversation has been happening before my time. Um, it's not very high quality habitat. You know, there's there's sort of a natural clearing there. If you go to the south, there's some very very high quality woodland, you know, connected to this, but the area where the parking lot is proposed is actually not the best habitat. And so it seemed like a um a good place. This is a preliminary look. You know, I know Dave Lease already reached out with some comments. Um this is by no means final. I just wanted to sort of like I said, I've been talking about it with different groups in Springs, including

103the CAC, library staff, and others. This is a way to get it out to the broader community because frankly, I've been surprised that one person had negative feedback about this and they called back later to say, "Actually, I changed my mind." So, I'm sure that there's there is going to there are going to be some people out there who don't love this plan or the idea. Um, but this is the form to get it out there. And so, with that, I'll let you know, Matt go through the details. >> Great. Thank you. >> Thank you, Ian. Good afternoon, board. >> Can you pull up the uh plan? So Ian, you really kind of went through everything that we thought of um as we put the plan together, but the general idea was to try to

104maximize the amount of parking that was available, but try to minimize the environmental impact. Um we'd like to do a pvious type pavement, you know, just to try to um allow infiltration of water, storm water. Um so it's not a hard paved surface. There is um ADA parking that is a imperous surface concrete. Um but David, I think you had a comment about brick. So there's a connection um to the brick walkways that are at the library. Um so our initial, you know, this is just lines on paper right now. Um, so any of this stuff can change, but initially the thought was the um pardon surface for the ADA parking, a connection to the Springs Library um brick path. Um, again, we can change that. Um, you know, holding everything back off of the

105wetland buffer. Um, some screen plantings at the at Springs Fireplace Road to try to screen it. Um, but again, just lines on paper. If we want to shift stuff a little bit, we can. Um, it offers 35 parking spaces. Um, which I know would be um, uh, well needed during certain times of the year and certain events that are, you know, hosted at Ashawa Hall or, you know, different areas in Springs. Um, so if you guys have any questions or comments on this, um, you know, it's just just a schematic design. We we we you know initiated the capital budget process just to try to you know start things moving forward. But what would happen after this is you know we'd have to come up with an official design which would then get moved forward

106to construction documents and and a public bid type of situation in order to get it constructed. >> And I see that you also have some other obligations uh for a a DEC wetland adjacent permit. Um so this will be looked at by other agencies as well. >> Yeah. Um we are behind the 10 foot contour which is DEEC jurisdictions 300 feet or or or 10 foot elevation. Um so we'll have to go through all the the permitting processes and and the town's permit process and any sort of other official approvals in order to get it done. Um yeah, I'll just say as a former um um liaison to the Springs CAC, also a resident bless you. >> Thank you. >> Also resident Springs who loves to go to every event at the heart of springs.

107Um it really brings a community together. also as a member of the special events committee um and knowing that the concerns for public safety with the limited parking that we have now as our population grows and as I as the events become more po popular due to all the great works of the nonprofits that have turned that whole area around. Uh the library saw significant improvements and the library is flourishing. Uh the as you mentioned the Parson's blacksmith shop now is open and there's live demonstrations of blacksmithing which is a big part of our history there. Um as this grows uh I think that this is a wonderful uh needed and appropriate lo appropriately located place for additional parking uh for folks to enjoy that area. So I fully support um what you have here.

108I love that it's gravel and it's uh impervious. Uh so that that's important as well. Um and uh I support it. >> Yeah. I just want to say one one one the immediate concern obviously we is is pussy's pond. You know there there's environmental concern and so in this design we did get preliminary comments from natural resources and planning. Everybody identified that and Matt made the design accordingly to stay >> you know appropriate distance away. Beyond that, we want to be extra careful with the, you know, permeable surface just to to minimize runoff and heavy rain events. >> And one other thing I want to say to Lauren, I it would be very optimistic to think this is going to be ready for the summer. >> Um, just to, you know, I don't think you

109got that from me, but um, we we did put it all on the capital plan for this year though because we don't want to miss another season after this. So, the idea is to try to complete it by next season. Yeah. >> Um, just a few quick questions. So, look, I I think it's great we've got the ADA um stalls over there. That concrete pathway is obviously going to be ADA compliant. I just did have a quick question which is is that then going to be able to connect for ADA access to Parson's place uh or would they have to go around the long way if they're going to try and access >> to go directly to Parson's place? >> Yeah. So, you got you got the walkway to the library, but is there a

110connection for ADA access to Parson's place? >> Well, just the uh the ADA sidewalk that goes to the back of the library. So, it will connect. So, it will connect to that ADA sidewalk. >> Perfect. >> And which connects to the parking spaces on Parson's Place. So, it'll be interconnected. >> Excellent. That was one question. Uh, second question was that is there going to be any lighting at all in the lot? >> There's nothing proposed. >> Okay. >> So, that's something that >> Yeah, I mean I just it's one way like if I mean you know this area better, but I assume there's quite a few night meetings that might use this park. if it's gravel, just trip hazards where there's the opportunity to do some very low-level um solar lighting here just to kind

111of reduce reduce safety impacts for consideration. And then lastly, look, I actually I I appreciate that you have the um the plantings on the springs fireplace frontage. I think that's key. I actually know the neighbors who live opposite. They're great people and like every effort we can kind of make to minimize visual impact to their visa, I think is key here, too. Um, so overall I think this is a great project. As my colleague Kate said, like we see this area constantly in demand for special events. Parking is a a major reason why we we cannot do a lot of things here. So I think this will um add to that. So I commend you guys for bringing it forward. Thank you. >> So let me just as far as the lighting, that would be

112a board decision. If we did move forward with some sort of lighting, it would be dark sky compliant as lowle as possible. Maybe just some lighted ballards or something like that. But you know, whatever the board decides. >> So my my couple comments or qu So this is on the same tax map as the library. So it's not within the park. So >> right. >> So that takes out that jurisdiction of looking at the parks and conservation library. It's on the National Historical Register as we're aware of. Um the need is there. I passed this location four times this morning already. And uh we don't have to, you know, the heart of Springs is a it's a wonderful location that the organizations of the Springs Improvement Society and others are uh pulling it back to

113a community gathering spot even even more so than 30 years ago, which is great. Uh but the public safety is needed. Um and I think this is an appropriate location. Now, I believe about 15 years ago, there was an open vista project that the town was doing. This might have even been one of the locations. This area was wide open at one point 60 years ago, but over time a lot of red cedars have grown in, but also have just fallen over on their sides, whatever may be. So, it's sort of open and as I what was the word you used? Um, not as beneficial woodlands. >> It's just not super high quality, you know. It's not Yeah, >> that's another good term for it. And it's not in my humble opinion. >> Um, I

114like the uh the 3/4 crush quartz that we're going with. Maybe even go on as you get into the discussions on the next steps. Um maybe maybe even on a true grid on there. I know we're doing that for storm water infiltration on uh the Westlake uh boat ramp over here. That might uh that might assist there. Um just have to be careful plowing, but again, not too many stuff is going to be we probably wouldn't see this used so much during the winter time. Uh so that's just a long-term maintenance issue, which I think is always workable on there. I would like to just make sure we had the continuity of the red brick on concrete. I think I discussed that earlier uh from the handicap spots that would go into the red brick

115that we put when we did the handicap access ramp to the library project four or five years ago. >> Uh as far as plantings, uh yes, I completely agree with Tom. New plantings there changing some of them maybe, you know, white pines or other deciduous trees would be great. I wouldn't even mind checking out instead of the um for the ADA if there is uh permeable pavers that might be almost brick in nature instead of concrete. That would be uh because there's not this is not a silty area. Uh we have issues with uh permeable pavers and cracks silting up in Sag Harbor or some other areas, but there's not much sand here. So, it might be a good way for us to try that there and get a surface on there. Um, I know

116that's in the weeds a little bit, but you know, Matt knows how projects, >> you know, the details of of them. Uh, but overall, I think the main thing is the need is there. I know it because I I I go here all the time. >> Um, and I I support this project moving ahead and look forward to see what the next steps would be. Completely optimistic that it would be for summer, but I'm a I'm I'm a good optimistic guy on there. But over overall, um, I look forward to next steps in assisting you, Ian. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. No, I I'm supportive of the project. Before Ian and before Kate, I was the liaison to the Spring CAC. I, you know, I drive past there, you know, a couple times a day,

117particularly during farmers markets and when there's activities going on. It gets a little treacherous on Springs Fireplace Road. Folks tend to park on both sides of the street. So, it would be helpful to get some of those cars uh in the back parking lot. Um most of the events that I see with the with the major parking is it is daylight hours. Um I don't know too many of events, maybe some art openings, but typically those are during when we've got, you know, light, you know, to 7 8 o'clock at night. And I I don't think Ashwa Hall typically goes much later than that. um when there's seven. Yeah. So I I I don't I'm not sure about the lighting if we need to do that. >> Added Yeah, maybe that's what we do. See

118how kind of use it gets? And um and Matt here you have limit of uh DEC jurisdiction. So does that mean we do not have to go to the DEEC to to move forward with this project? Yes, it was we had the issue with the uh IIA sanitary system and whether or not >> we were behind that 10-ft contour >> and because we were behind that they we didn't have to get a permit for the IIA sanitary system for the library. So, this would be something similar that we'd stay behind, but we'd still reach out make sure that they say no jurisdiction. So, we would submit everything as a permit application with a request for a no jurisdiction determination. Can I also just go into a little bit looking at a little bit of the

119long >> this project also will show the town's investment into the heart of springs. Uh uh Kathy recently uh moved forward with Ian with the blacksmith shop being recladded on there. Uh about 5 years ago we invested in the siding and windows on onto the library and the ADA access there on there. Uh the town invested uh water quality funding into Ashaw Hall which was a former school on there. So they have the IIA system and the town is now supporting and investing into the Springs Library. We also did the culvert or the culvert >> that was a half million dollars. >> We moved so that Lorine wouldn't go out there in the middle of the night and take down the fragmitees herself. She may have mentioned that at a spring CAC way back when.

120>> So it it shows >> and also the primary bill barrier that we put around the pussy's pond to uh to take out nitrogen. So what it does, it's just showing the how the administration and Kathy is installing is supporting uh infrastructure in this area for water quality but use historical preservation all in one location. Uh and I think it is something that has been widely supported by the residents in springs including myself. >> Absolutely. >> So thank you madam supervisor. >> Right. >> All right. Can you >> No, just again it's it's a it's a it's a draft but obviously there's support here. I I do want to move this forward and I just encourage anybody who has any comments on this draft or other ideas to reach out to me. Um and if

121you hate it, you can tell me that too. I you know the idea is here is to elicit feedback so we move forward with um you know with all input. >> Was this shared at the CA spring CAC meeting? >> We we discussed at the spring CAC meeting. We I did not share this exact design. >> You sent it out. >> I sent it I sent it out before this meeting. really everybody's at >> and we'll we'll bring it back to the next CAC meeting as as well. Yeah, >> again it's only lines on paper at this point in time. So, >> but we first you need the buy into the concept, right? So, it's important. Sounds like we're we're there. >> All right. Beautiful. Thank you. All right. So, now we have our assistant

122town attorney, Alex Veio, here. We're going to uh talk about a code amendment change to chapter 240-35 permits for rental cars. >> Yes. Hi, welcome. >> Alex Beckio from the town attorney's office. Um so I'm here talking about a code change um on behalf of the town clerk and board member Ian. This is the purpose of this code change is to give the town clerk uh limited discretion to issue temporary parking permits to East Hampton Town homeowners who require the use of of a rental vehicle. Um, so as Kathy said, this is 240-35, which is permits. And currently that section says that rental vehicles are not eligible for resident, family, cooperative ownership or general non-resident parking permits, which are all the types of permits that we offer aside from paying daily fees. So, um the

123proposed language that um we're thinking of adding is um as follows. Notwithstanding the foregoing, the town clerk has discretion to issue temporary parking permits for rental vehicles upon a showing uh a sufficient showing of hardship. So, um as that says, there's some discretion that's going to be given to the town clerk if we move forward with this code change. Um, and if you'd like, I could go through some examples of hardship that we've talked about. Um, but you know, ultimately it will be up to the town clerk to determine um, who would qualify. >> Yeah. Just so folks understand why we're looking at rental vehicles. Uh, Tom, we're in close proximity to the uh, clerk's office. Um and uh you know if you have a traffic accident and you as part of your insurance or

124need um your car is in the shop, they give you a rental car for uh that time period. Um unless we put this line into the code, a person would not be able resident, even though they have a sticker on their car, would not be able to access our beaches uh and and any place where we have a permitted parking during that time period. So, it seems like you got into an accident and now you're punished. Um, so, um, I just wanted to point out, you know, some of the reasons why we're, uh, looking at this. >> Ian, did you want to >> Yeah, I I you know, I I brought this forward. I, you know, Carol Brennan, the previous clerk who was was around forever, has has sort of seen it all. And I

125think that there was some abuse previously of of people with rental cars and taken advantage. And so, this language got added, no rental cars, I think back in 2019. Um, truthfully, it's it's a gray area whether we're allowed to make exceptions or not given that language. And it just seemed for for clarity, we wanted to add this line to make it abundantly clear that, you know, in cases of hardship, you're allowed. It's certainly not an as of right that any rental car is going to get a permit. Um, but this just gives explicit discretion to the town clerk. Um, look, I think that this is a section of code that I've already spoken with Michael Hansen, the new town clerk, about um, updating once he goes through a season of issuing permits. Um, so this

126is sort of a um, >> I don't want to say temporary fix, but it's addressing a very narrow need. I think there's other things that we could address here later on. Um, but wanted to work with Michael Moore once we um, you know, have the opportunity to to see a season unfold. Um, so I'm I'm supportive of it. I I thank you for working on it so quickly, Alex. Uh we've already had somebody reach out um this year. The other issue that comes up a lot is people who own property here um but fly and don't have a car locally um you know and it seems appropriate that if you own a house and there's no vehicles with any permits at all and you're here for two weeks in the summer that you would be

127also able to enjoy the beaches. So thank you. >> Yeah, I'm fully supported. This is common sense. I like it. Thank you. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I also support I've I've seen uh pros and cons over the years of this, but I think gives a discretion to uh to the town clerk to do so. Uh knowing that the policy of uh of of that that discretion should be written up um and used >> appropriately and consistently. So, I was um actually I might have been the sponsor of the legislation when we last changed uh uh parking, beach parking permits and driving uh on the beach parking permit uh permits and the clerk did have some discretion before and as it was mentioned, Carol was seeing that there was a lot of abuse of of that

128and uh so we put we we shut down the ability to be able to use a rental car and then we've heard from folks As Kate and Ian mentioned, folks, you know, have a home here, they live in Italy, and they come and they can't access our beaches, and that just doesn't seem fair. So, this really gives Michael the discretion um to be able to uh issue a temporary. What Carol did in the old days is it was something that she gave them a card that went in their um on their dashboard so that folks could see it. I don't know now that we use license plate readers there may be another way to have it so that there's a you know a start date and an end date but then what they would have

129to do is before they left they would have to bring the card to Carol and that's how and she had her regulars that came every year that that used that system. So, I think having giving folks that ability is is important. Should also while we're talking about the clerk and um beach parking permits and and uh beach driving permits, folks, you know, we also at that time put it into effect that your permit was good for five years. It ends on the year ending in a zero or a five. So, most folks this year, they need to get new permits. Michael, I know you're ready for it. Folks have already started coming in. >> If your beach driving permit, your beach parking permit is not bordered by a green border, you you're an expired one.

130>> Okay. >> You have to have a green border. >> Green means go for this year. >> Kathy, just to some of the mechanisms that you referenced there, I think we we still would likely have a temporary permit that that has an expiration date that matches the rental agreement. And now with the license plate readers, um, basically it's input on a computer and you can change that I think very very easily. So I think there's even more controls in place now than there used to be with the addition of license plate. >> And I I guess Carol Brennan is watching because she just texted me that said all folks that lived away got a permit and last year they did use the the plate reader. So that might be something you need to connect with

131Carol on so that once this local we'll have the public hearing but once this local law goes into effect. So >> still watching Carol. Huh. One area that I would just potentially like to look to explore to expand this into is I have had numerous residents reach out to me similarly not just the beach parking but using being able to get a recycling permit um with a rental car in those situations like you know it's something we currently don't allow. So just I think it this is a good first step. Um but I think that's something we want to look at. >> All right. So, it sounds like we've got support for it. So, we can put it on for the next uh town board meeting, which I believe is the 19th of March, and

132we could notice it for public hearing. Um I think it's April 2nd. >> Great. >> Thank you, Alex. >> Thanks, Alex. >> Thank you. Okay, so the last topic we have today is a code amendment to chapter 138-5 filming, and we have our town attorney, Jake Turner, here to take us through that. >> Thank you, Alex. Great job. really do appreciate it. >> Um, so we're gonna stay with our theme of what we can do to help Michael Hansen, our new Suffach County Clerk. Uh, this code change recommendation comes from the Special Events Committee in conjunction with the clerk's office. It's been my honor and privilege to work with Kate Rogers and Tom Fle in the special events committee for the past two years. During that time, we would often see Carol Brennan in her

133capacity as town clerk come and speak with us when she had an application for a film permit. She would seek the advice of the special events committee. And as the town board knows, but anybody else listening, just as a reminder, as part of that committee, we have the chief of police or his designate, fire marshall's office, parks department, trustees, two town board members, and somebody from the town attorney's office there to help with the committee. So, the clerk would often come and visit with us to determine whether or not a film permit application should be granted based upon public safety and whether or not filming would disrupt such public safety. So, Carol would often work with the committee to determine when filming could occur, how it could occur, when it could occur, and any and

134all other parameters for such. However, during my course of studying the code, it was determined that Carol didn't necessarily need to come to the special event committee. She did have to consult with the chief of police. So, she would often uh consult with Chief Sarlo at the special event committee and the chief would look to the rest of the committee for further input. This is an attempt to help put into place that practice because even there's so much more that needs to be taken into account when determining whether or not a filming permit should be granted and it is all public safety type matters. So that is what we're doing here. It is a clarification in a codification of having the town clerk consult with the special events committee for a filming permit. >> Great.

135Thank you. Um Jake, I thank you for bringing this forward. I know this is something we discussed throughout the last two years on the special events committee. I think this is a the correct change to do. I think it just it allows more oversight and just kind of a more nuanced decision-m capability for where that this will come. Um, look, I think in terms of filming permits generally, um, we're seeing more and more demand on the town overall, um, be it for filming ads on beaches, you name it. I think, you know, as these requests come in, um, I I think the committee has the expertise to help guide that decision. >> I don't have anything to add. As a member of the special events committee um for four years now um I support this

136code change. Uh the more folks you have involved in any permit in terms of public safety uh that we have on that committee the better. So I appreciate uh this code change as all applications. I mean if we look at the numbers we're at what 600 a season. Um so uh as as we have more and more it's better to have more eyes on it. and Carol always consulted the entire committee. So, it's just really cottifying the common tradition. >> Yeah, I'm supportive as well. >> Yeah. And and I know we just had a a major movie was made here not too long ago. We've had HBO and Showtime, you know, uh programming done out here, multiple episodes. So, um, and we've always brought the special committee, the special events committee always, you know, met

137with the producers and the and the scouting lo, you know, a location folks and went through it, you know, location by location. So, it only makes sense that we codify the practice. So, I'm supportive. >> Wonderful. I shall uh notice for a public hearing at our next Thursday meeting. >> Great. Thank you, Jake. >> Thank you, everybody. >> Okay. So that's takes us through all of our our topics for today. So we're now up to liaison reports. Tom, >> thank you madam supervisor. Um the amigans citizens advisory committee met last night. We were very fortunate to have both council member Rogers and deputy supervisor Lee there as well as the town attorney Jake Turner. Um it was we we covered a range of things. Um Kate gave an overview of the rental registry um and

138the uh air DNA program to kind of help us assess uh the short-term rental market in the town, what's going on. David gave an excellent overview and Q&A with regards to the beautifification project and Jake gave some very helpful updated guidance on how we are approaching uh the the visa situation that's been incurred on Further Lane. um IT department. Um obviously we kind of did a press release that we've done the roll out of the um uh open gov 2.0 for the building department. The goal of that is to streamline uh the application process for your more simple applications, pools, decks. Uh we'll be able to process those faster. Um kind of being able to streamline them as they come in. It also enhance our reporting capabilities um for you know where things are and

139how we're performing. Um we're also going to be hosting later this month uh with with the town clerk's office uh um a demo from the open gov group for town clerk capabilities. We're looking to upgrade our IT infrastructure and interface with the public in those areas. And so um you know it might not be open gov. It might be but we're looking at different service providers for that. Um also within it I just got a few other things I wanted to update people on. Um, okay. So, let's see if I can pull this out. Sorry. No, it crashed on me. All right, I can save that to next week. Sorry, guys. It's going to open for me. I'll jump it to next week on that one then. Okay, I shall move on from there to

140um uh human services, senior nutrition program stats. Um the congregate meal count for the week of uh March 2nd through March 6th was 80. Uh we had in that same time period 80 grab-and-go meals taken. And wellness stats, we currently have 368 uh seniors registered for our wellness program of which 197 participated in classes in January. Uh today at 2 p.m. we have a painting and drawing class led by uh the artist Kate Goldman who' be returning to the center. In addition, we have four prevent full prevention classes scheduled on Mondays at 1 p.m. uh which have also returned to the weekly schedule. Um you know, one thing I will say in terms of those stats, uh we are seeing increasing pressure on the parking capacity in that area and I'm trying to work with

141Dian Patricio to find solutions for parking. Um because right now we are overflow and it's creating some some issues for both operations and for users of the center. Um so I will be approaching the board with possibilities for how to expand that parking. Fire marshall's office. Um I got an excellent um update from the fire marshall's office as to where they are with regards to their capital plans and purchases. So as the public may not be aware um hazmat um you know which was historically kind of done in conjunction with the town and the the fire districts is something that the town has taken on more fully in its role. Uh and with that um we've had some capital expenditures done to um increase our hazmat capabilities. So this year we will be replacing all

142our expired encapsulating level A hazmat suits. Those suits have been uh sized and are awaiting um order. Um additionally we have new vehicles coming into the fire marshall's office. We're replacing our 2014 Ford Explorer and 2016 Durango with Ram pickup trucks. Um maintaining the NFPA compliance for transportation of contaminated equipment which is needed for the hazmat crews. Uh the vehicles have been located on state contract. Um we're manage and you know what they're going to be used for. These vehicles this is to manage fire road access. This is something we're really increasing focus on across the town with climate change presenting an ever evolving fire risk hazard situation. Um we're also looking to give them better access to the beaches with these vehicles uh as they will be overseeing you know beach fires along with

143marine patrol. Um and just generally maintaining departmental response capabilities during inclement weather. Um you in terms of vehicle equipment obviously will have radios, lights, storage, etc. Um and we're just awaiting purchase of vehicles to order that equipment. Um we will also looking to add AEDs to all the fire marshall department vehicles. Um this is obviously a critical uh life intervention in terms of emergency expanding coverage uh for critical life-saving equipment. Uh additionally uh we looking at the equipment replacement schedule on the fire truck and the motorpool garage. Uh replacing our antiquated hazmat meters and equipment with modern counterparts. Um, we've already acquired explosive gas meters for propane and natural gas leaks. Uh, a radiation contamination detector uh for alpha, gamma, and beta radiation. While that sounds extreme, this is something we do see somewhat frequently.

144Um, unfortunately, uh, cancer patients who receive radiation treatment uh, sometimes throw their diapers out in the regular trash. Uh, and this actually sets off an alarm and it doesn't allow us to take our trash outside of the vicinity. So the more we can kind of identify that as it comes in the better. Um we're also working to replace our VOCC, our vap vapor organic compound detection. Uh this is used for determining as fuel has leaked into the soil or surrounding area. It's one of the areas the hazmat team covers. Uh and we're looking to purchase cell block ex and fire blankets uh for lithium ion and fires that may occur um in areas. Um, we're also working on a speedy dry pallet uh for fuel, hydraulic, chemical spills within the town coverage area and acquiring

145a dry stack burnoff kit uh which is used to safely burn off discarded or damaged flammable liquid containers such as a propane tank uh that catches fire at the town recycling center which is which has happened in the past. Um, moving on to the ADU implementation committee. We have a meeting this Thursday at 11:30 a.m. I'm delighted that we'll be having hosting Carol Buddha as a guest. Uh, she's come forward with me for some excellent ideas for how to expand the ADO program. So, we'll be hearing her ideas on that. Um, we met a few weeks ago. The fire chiefs um was met at the MOK the Shagwan because the MOK fire district kitchen is under renovation at this point in time. Um general feedback uh from the chiefs was good especially with regards to

146the storm. There are some recommendations they would like to see going forward that I'll bring to the supervisor and the EOC team. Um arts council committee Jason if we could bring up those images this would be great. Um so East Hampton Town has been working in coordination with the arts council and the East Hampton High School for many years as part of the school's March Madness program. There's a lot of sporting events, but the arts council also looks to encourage the arts through hosting a uh an arts competition between the different grades at the school. Um, so as you can see, the theme from this year was kind of a geometric shapes situation. Uh, and each of the grades was assigned a different uh color that they had to work with. So you can see

147the green was the uh freshman, blue was the sophomores, red seniors, and the yellow sorry the yellow was the seniors, the red was the juniors. Um and each of them kind of look to adhere to the rules which are on the next page. If we can scroll to that. Um so these are the criteria by which they had to create these images. And if we scroll down we can get a better closeup of each of the images. We can just keep scrolling through Jason as you like. So this again is the freshman's artworks. Rather fun aspect of nature. Um so the theme here is just the interaction of nature and geometric shapes. Uh the sophomores did a great um coral situation. Then you have the plains of Savannah in red from the juniors and then

148the seniors. Um this lovely image of of a pizza which I thought was really fun. Um so the winners this year, congratulations. It was a tie between the freshman and the sophomores and second place was the juniors and red squares and third was the seniors. Um but great work to all the students in doing that and keeping the arts alive um within our youth. So thank you for that. um wildlife management advisory committee as mentioned in today's ticks presentation we're we continue to work on um putting together a presentation on management of uh ticks and deer and and different programs to do that looking to do that presentation ideally um towards um end of April or beginning of May. emergency preparedness. We have a I have a meeting this Friday um at the Montalk Playhouse

149to review um with the engineers the new generator at the playhouse. I have reached out to operators within the building to understand their needs. Uh and additionally reached out to Mont Fire Department's chief and emergency preparedness coordinator to um understand any questions they may have with regards to that. >> What what what would what would they need? >> Um just in terms of what how to turn it off, put it out should there be a fire with the generator. Um, also with they have the emergency preparedness coordinator out in Montalk who hosts that center as a Red Cross facility. Um, so they just need to know what turns off when what turns on. Um, YMCA. Um, obviously I think the public's heard that the the pool there is currently closed due to a boiler issue.

150Uh, very grateful that we've been able to work with the playhouse to allow the Huracans to do their training there as it's critical part of their season and we are working on getting that fixed done at the YMCA as soon as possible. And that's everything for my Thank you, Tom. David, >> want to let everyone know at the Malk Library today there's a demonstration of Suffach County Board of Elections new voting machines. Uh yes, there going to be new voting machines and everything mostly is going to be going digitally if anyone's interested. Uh Suffach County Board of Elections is down here showing those voting machines off to 5:00 p.m. today. And I welcome everyone down to the Montalk Library and I always thank the Malk Library for having us here. Also in Montalk uh uh

151the Westlake storm water project which is at the launching ramp is uh is undergoing fast and steady pace you uh talking about uh the 3/4 crush gravel and and the type of true grids. This is the first location we're doing in the town of East Stamp. So if anyone wants to take a look down there again that could be a possibility for we're seeing for other subsurfaces of parking lots such as the one Ian presented earlier then too. So that's moving ahead. Uh going to aquaculture. aquaculture. We're assessing some of the damage due to ice flows. Uh recently we saw an aquaculture up island that they're looking to have the governor declare a state of emergency for the aquaculture uh fisheries because there's so much damage and cutting of lines again to get a to

152get an oyster to grow uh to 3 in that they can actually sell at market on there. it takes multiple years and when you put hundreds of thousands if not millions of uh of uh oysters out there and the lines get cut they're not retrievable anymore. So we're assessing that but John Barley Dunn is doing well and going through his broodtock. Uh and again if anyone's interested in participating in the community aquaculturing projects the town has uh please contact John Barley Dunn at the aquaculture department going to parks and recreation. Tom thank you for discussing the lifeguards. Uh the town is still hiring of lifeguards for summer season 2026. Please contact the town's recreational department or our human uh uh sorry our human resources department. Then too also in recreation, we do know that it

153is above 40 out uh the last couple days. Uh we're in constant contact with Eastampton Little League. their little league schedule uh doesn't start for a couple more weeks. Uh and about getting their playing surfaces, specifically the ones uh that are dirt, that'll be the one in Montalk, Abraham's Path, and also Maidstone in playing shape, but right now due to the due to uh the wetness of the surface right now, it's going to be a while till we get on there to groom them. Recently, in the last couple years, we purchased equipment to groom those fields. So, it shouldn't be nearly as long to do as uh as it was 5 10 years ago, Kathy. So, thank you for bringing that equipment on. Even more so, I believe the high school is practicing at Stephen

154Han's path right now on those fields for softball because the field at the high school stuff to dry out. Uh so, please have a little patience to all the parents. I know your kids are actually I saw the kids outside playing today for the first time in it's got to be three months when I dropped the kids off. Um, it's a little stir crazy. >> Indoor recess is no fun. >> Yeah, not for 3 months. >> Uh, keep moving ahead. I want to let everyone know the progress uh the New York State Parks is having on the southern pine beetle infestation in Napig. Uh, they are actively uh working on grinding of material that was infested and cut down. Uh, and that's happening uh uh over I believe the first 72 acres that they took

155down and cleared. And that's off of uh Napig Meadow Road. So they're not doing control burns right now, but New York State Parks has hired a contractor, Laser Industrial Industries, I believe, and they're grinding that material and taking it off of site. Moving ahead also back to Stephen Han's path, uh the parking project that we're doing there where we're expanding, centralizing, and expanding the parking. Uh that will be uh as it dries out moving forward um in the next couple days. That leads me to the asphalt portion of that project. The asphalt plants just opened up yesterday. Uh, and the reason why I bring that up, not just for that parking, it brings me to highway and potholes. Highway department uh did a phenomenal job uh removing all of the u snow off of our

156streets over the last couple of storms this year. But what has happened is taken a toll on some of our areas and increased the amount of potholes. Just yesterday, they laid down four tons of asphalt, and that barely got them off of Springs Fireplace Road. In the past, they were putting down cold patch with some sand in it. Uh, doesn't really bind well, but it does fill in the potholes to the next storm into when the asphalt plants open. Now that we have attention that they're opening, they're prioritizing the areas of heavy heavily trafficked roads and trying to get to other locations. I know on the way out here, I saw state highways uh doing the same then, too. Uh so they're work working actively on the potholes. Also cutbacks of brush. There's many elicit

157uh plantings of brush in the town's rightways. We've had meetings on this already. A lot of those trees have broken off are dangling either on to power lines or in the rightways. Uh and they're working through the hundreds if not probably a couple thousand trees that are in the rightways that have fallen during the last heavy snowstorm. Uh I would like to bring that back to a discussion about rightaways and parking and maybe enforcement moving forward. >> Uh two things lastly at Atlantic Avenue uh at the comfort station there. Uh that's just one of the locations. We're also experiencing uh uh sink holes too in certain locations around drainage cylinders. Uh that's due to a lot of the heating of the roads and we're also seeing that on the highways the damage. I want to

158thank the supervisor for putting nearly 40% more into the capital budget for um for road surfacing the last two years. It's going to be needed this year, supervisor, and it's going to be used. Um but also at Atlantic Avenue, uh we are uh starting active work uh with some contractors to um to beautify that comfort station there. That's been the capital budget for the last two years. So that's going forward. Lastly, USACE uh United States Army Corps of Engineers project. They're a couple weeks delayed on the removal of the overpasses in Montalk here. They are starting the stage, but they're not actively on the ground working. I have already contacted neighboring property owners of some of the hotels, let them know that this might bleed into uh into April and also during the season when

159it might be uh the St. Patty's Day parade uh for uh the Monttok friends of Aaron which is kicks off at 12:00 p.m. on March 12 March 29th uh here in Montalk. Uh Tom Lieutenant Tom Greny is the the grand marshal. Lastly, I want to thank uh I want to say uh welcome back to Terrence Lycap. >> Terrence, it's great to see you back in good health, my friend. >> Okay, so thank you for all you do and uh prayers of strength as always, my friend. That's all I have. >> Thank you, David Kate. Yes. Um, first, uh, before I really get into my leazison report, I I just want to address some comments that were made during public portion. Uh, one of those comments was about uh, town boards not responding to uh, what

160was stated at a prior public portion by the same individual, but I just want to point that in fact, as soon as the public meeting ended uh, the last time I looked at the door uh to the from the town hall into the lobby and the supervisor was meeting with that gentleman immediately. So that was nobody had to call because the response to uh what was said at the public portion was immediate by the supervisor. Um also regarding the need a Spanish speaking building inspector um not all of the building inspectors uh are required to be Spanish speaking. The position that is open requires a Spanish-sp speakaking individual. And I think um if you're part of this community and and know the workforce in this community, that is uh something that we need uh for

161our neighbors. So um I just wanted to clarify those couple of things. Onward to the Wayne Scott CAC uh sub airport subcommittee member Mark Fron who has met with us numerous times. Um he had a wonderful presentation about a public-f facing style dashboard that could happen um uh regarding airport operations and complaints and uh it was quite interesting and I believe there is a beta version uh up um uh he has that up. uh it was wellreceived and uh folks were uh amazed actually by how fast you can by coding and what people can do uh when you have expertise in that area. Um the other uh uh major discussion uh was about uh the upcoming public hearing on 66 uh uh Wayne uh Main Street Waynecott for the Osborne property. Um, I know that

162the uh CAC emailed a recommendation from the CAC uh to us already and to the town clerk for uh putting in the public record and folks uh uh not only just the Wayne Scott CAC but guests who came to the meeting who are residents there specifically to hear about this. Um it was a very good discussion and of course I've as usual I've encouraged everyone to submit comments to the record, come and speak a public portion. We want to hear from you and um I reiterate that constantly. Um it I was honored to be a guest at ACACK as Tom already talked about and talked about the the um ACA. Yes, Jen. And talk about Amaganza Citizens Advisory Committee. Sorry. And talk about uh the present uh what the uh reiterate and represent the um

163short-term rental discussion that I presented to the town last October. I gave them the update that uh subsequently the town board approved $30,000 to seek a digital um company uh that will help us with uh compliance for our rental registry. That RFP went out um it opened February 12th. It ends March 12th and then subsequently we'll be bringing back a presentation to the board on recommendations for a selection of that consultant. Uh the MTOK $600,000 grant is continues to be worked on. Right now it's still somewhat behind the scenes as the number of tasks uh in the beginning of stages of our grant have to do with setting up systems with New York State. We've been consistently working uh specifically um Nicole Facto who's doing a great job and uh Tina Lagaren have been working

164with our state partner on setting up all of those systems uh tracking folks time uh how to do reimbursements uh etc. So the infrastructure before we get to the real infrastructure study has already been going on behind the scenes. the consultant um contract is finished. Um so we'll be uh moving on to more public-f facing IT task items in the grant like uh in creating and appointing the uh project advisory committee and then we'll have a presentation from the consultant that was selected on what all of the work will look like as we reach out for public engagement. So that is ongoing. It's just not uh really seen in the public. The litter action committee uh the litter action committee has pointed out uh to us all that the instances of folks not picking up

165after their dogs has increased over the winter dramatically particularly on our beaches. Um please pick up after your pets. It impacts us not just visually in terms of litter but also has environmental impacts and human health impacts. and it's just being a good neighbor to pick up after yourself and your pets. So, so please do. They're working on their 2026 season don't trash East Hampton anti-litter campaign. Uh and there will be dogs included in that who all who can pick up their own uh poop bags. So, >> and dispose of them properly in containers and and if they can do it, so can we. So, that's the the gist of what they're working on. I also met with Mark Abramson who has brought uh to our attention. This is a was a staff meeting and

166I know folks at Springs are interested in this on how uh a process to modernize how we deal with uh reveation after stuff has been cleared. And uh Mark is working with the town attorney's office. uh Trevor Daryl who uh is a representative that goes to court and uh code enforcement, the building department um and planning department uh and myself are all part of these meetings. I'll be giving you updates on that uh as we develop that uh presentation and I believe that's all I have. Thank you Kate. Ian >> you have a very brief uh leazison report. Thanks for that Kate. The clearing issue as you know has been been brought to me a number of times. So, thank you for organizing that meeting and look forward to to what comes of it. Uh,

167the property management committee met last week. Um, and there's some exciting news. Both the Osborne uh house and the Edwards house are are almost final with engineering plans. Um, there's two different engineers working on each of those and we're also working with historic consultants on both to make sure that the engineering also is appropriate historically. Bob Hefner actually joined the the committee last week to um give his feedback on the Edwards House. And so um I hope to bring both those projects to the board soon um for discussion and hopefully moving forward with an RFP. A advisory was uh scheduled to meet tomorrow. There will be no meeting this month. Uh spring CAC will meet next week on um Wednesday, March 17th at 6:30 Hall. We'll certainly discuss the uh Springs Library parking lot plan.

168Uh anybody interested in in discussing that, again, it's Ashwag Hall next Wednesday at 6:30. Uh and lastly, I just want to recognize uh some work that the town staff has been doing on accessory staff housing. We've just I've discussed it from my leazison report a few times. I know there's interest in on the board and in addressing this. um Tina Lagaren, um Mark Morgan Perez, and especially Yadri Ali and Eric uh Shance have been working very very hard on this and I think there'll be a draft. We have a meeting with the Department of Health tomorrow to talk about a particular thing and then I think this will be ready to present as early as next week if that's >> I have it on for next week. >> Okay, great. Beautiful. >> Um but but

169again, I just just want to um a lot of work has gone into that. that's going to be your preliminary proposal um to to get public feedback, but you know, Ed Rally and and Eric Shance in addition to Tina Lagaren and Mark Morgan Perez have just been absolutely great to to work with on that and I'm excited to present it next week. That's all I have. >> Thank you, Ian. I have a couple of things. I had said that I was going to report back on East Hampton Sag Harbor CAC which met on Monday, March 2nd. Uh we talked about the town's stellar response to the storm and folks commented on the great job that was done on social media keeping residents informed. A recommendation was made that the town adopt a local law requiring

170homeowners and commercial properties to be responsible for clearing sidewalks in front of their own homes and businesses. An inquiry into the status of the idle and vacant East Hampton Village train station came up as you know folks and particularly seniors are waiting for a train. They're out in the cold sometimes bearing you know dealing with the elements and they wonder why the train station can't be open. That's a Long Island Railroad MTA issue. Um and that they're the CAC is looking into that. There was also some uh a short discussion on project most's planning board application on uh that's the project that's going on at three mile harbor and it was briefly discussed and I think we will be re be asking the folks from project most to come back and just give the CAC

171an update and then under new business there was a mention made of short-term rentals and I was hoping Kate maybe you'd be open to coming to a future meeting uh to make your presentation. Then Saturday morning, the Latino advisory committee met and I have to say we almost had perfect attendance. A couple of the college students couldn't join us, but then again, the meetings at 8:00 in the morning on a Saturday, so I can't blame them. So the ones that were on uh spring break and were home did attend. Uh we were also joined by both Lieutenant Ken Alvera and police officer Daniel Munoz. Um we discussed a number of topics. uh one being the OLA public safety and accountability local law as folks know um Fred the who's now a board member of OLA

172has been drafting that we are on version three um I shared that the town board is supportive of the local legislation obviously we need to work out the details uh Lieutenant Alvera and police officer Munoz described what the current protocol is uh if there was a federal action here in the town of East Hampton and it mirror is pretty much what is called for in the legislation. Um, I requested input from the Latino Advisory Committee on the composition of the task force. Um, because as all of us know, there's only a handful of committees that are codified, agricultural committees, codified nature preserve, uh, and all of the the three different community preservation fund, the one for water quality, housing, and then >> and fishies water >> and waterfront advisory. And they all have most of

173them have as part of their code what the minimum number of you know task force members would be to the maximum and what what qualifications people should have. So because we would want this task force to be a well-rounded representation of our community. Um I've asked those the Latino advisory committee I think they're going to form some subcommittees to you know to give us input on uh who they think should be appointed to that. Um the chair did request that a discussion of the draft local law take place next week, but we're still waiting. I know the town attorney's office is looking at that legislation. They're having other there's other conversations speak happening with uh Fred the but there were a number of questions that were raised on a call that we had about 10

174days ago um with Ola, with Fred and with the East End supervisors and mayors. and we're still waiting on Fred's responses to those questions and that they're pertinent to um to the the language in the local law. I I also brought up that we need to lobby our elected uh officials on on the federal level in Congress as um one of the points that I made and it's a conversation I've had with with Chief Sarlo is that if I were to, you know, stop making payments on my car, my car would be repossessed, right? a tow truck would pull up. They'd put it on a flatbed and before they left town, they would stop at police headquarters and report to the desk. It was, you know, who owned the car, the license plate of the

175car, and where they were taking the car. So that if I called up later and said, "Oh my god, my car was stolen." They would say, "No, no, no, no. Your car was repossessed, and here's where you'd find it." Um, I think it's only humane that if uh there is an ICE action in our community and folks are um swept up, removed, and taken out of town, the very least that our federal agencies could do is report to our police headquarters and say who they took, what their identity was, and where they were taking them >> within 24 hours. >> Yeah. Or 12 hours. I mean, it shouldn't be incumbent upon, you know, immigration attorneys, uh, and organizations like OLA to try to track people down to Louisiana or their families. >> Yeah. It's just

176it's inhuman, you know. So, we can do it for cars when you haven't made a payment on it, but we we need to be able to do it um in in these kinds of situations as well. So, I've got Pat Hatrick drafting a letter to our um federal partners to our senators and our congressmen. And I'd like to ask the board to sign on to that so that all of us sign on to it. And I don't I'm also going to ask to see if east end supervisors and mayors will also uh send out a letter and you know and we may want to take it out further than that. We may want to ask our school districts and whatnot. Um I the first step is I think we send out the letter uh and

177we see if we can get others to sign on to it. Um we also talked about at the Latino advisory committee how we can do outreach. What are the best um you know outlets for that? Uh I think folks on the committee want to reach out to the uh Hispanic churches and we could have um opportunities to have talks you know after service. We also want to do uh videos on social media. Police officer Munoz has had volunteered in the past to do that and I've asked the um LAC to see if they wanted to come back with three topics they would want to do, you know, first. So um it I mean it was a tremendous conversation. And I think we had a 90-minute meeting and there's a lot of folks that really want

178to get um involved and I have to say this generation of young people has his um you know in their 20s and 30s uh they're they're our future and uh I can't tell you how many times I've been asked how are you going to get more Latino members of our community involved in you know uh on boards and um you know sitting up here at the deis or on on committees and this young generation I guess they're Gen Z looking at you Jack uh they're they're ready for it they're studying public policy in school and they are ready they they're and it's very exciting to be a part of the last thing that came up is uh one of the committee members asked if we could do some programs for Spanish-sp speakaking parents and It

179just so happens that there's a young woman on the committee, Valyria Marouin, who's the bilingual family educator for Suffach County Cornell Cooperative Extension, and she sent me a a flyer yesterday of different parent support workshops that they do in Spanish. One is raising our children in the digital age, navigating loss and grief, navigating our children's emotions and prevention from home, how to talk to your children about drugs and alcohol. So, I've reached out to see what different age groups um this correlates with and I think we could partner with maybe the libraries and whatnot and and bring these programs to our uh Spanish speaking parents. And then um last I just want a reminder uh is it's stop day in Montalk this Saturday from 9:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. and please safely dispose of your

180hazardous household waste. I know we've got it on the social media and you're all shaking your heads here in M talk so you know it's coming. So that's all good news. All right. So that's what I have for my liaison report. So now we are going to move on to resolutions. Super I managed just to pull up the one piece I couldn't get to earlier. It's just um been asked just an update on statistics from open gov as to you know what's been processed in February. Uh in February in the building department we uh created 338 records 644 permits issued generating revenue of 107,000 thereabouts. I know Chris you'd asked previously if that we could give a breakdown of you know what those are. We don't have that capability yet but next few months we

181will with a new system. I can say that the types of applications that can be currently done with an open gov, they could either be an accessory structure permit, a certificate of occupancy, commercial building permit, letter of buildability, rental registration, uh rental registration tenant update, a rental uh sorry, a residential building permit, a solar permit, a telecommunications facility permit, or an updated CFO request form. So, that's what's currently in there. And Tom, if I could just jump in to remind people that we just had a update to our GIS system, uh, which if you need information for that application that you're submitting digitally on open gov, um, you can just go to the town's website to the front page and look down and see the link to GIS and that will have information on it

182that you would need to fill in, help fill in that application. So, I just wanted to give a shout out back to two work sessions ago to to remind folks we have that. >> Thank you. It's my privilege to offer resolution 2026 448. This is a budget modification for off- streetet parking where we're decreasing the line for contingency in the amount of $6,000 increasing the line for subcontractor costs in the same amount. >> Second. All in favor? I >> 449 is to authorize a payment of a prior invoice for the highway department. Uh there are two invoices there for Metro Environmental Services. One dated from November 14th, 2025 in the amount of $1,87.70 and the next dated December 9th, 2025 in the amount of 3 $38,740. >> Second. All in favor? >> I. >> 450

183is authorized payment of a prior year invoice for the highway department to opus inspection and this amount is for $240. >> Second. All in favor? >> I. 451 is authorized payment in the prior years invo prior year invoices for the highway department and this is for first one is emergency responder products from November 21st to 25 and the amount $89320 the second one is Allstars ABC custom sales the amount uh sorry from October 16th 2025 in the amount of $58540 >> second all in favor I >> I have resolution 452 which is the approval of uh various special events for March. Resolve that the following special events have been approved under the conditions agreed to by the reviewing committee. First is the Amagamit Chamber of Commerce Amoganszit Parade that takes place Amaganit Municipal Parking Lot

184to Indian Wells Highway on Saturday, March 14th from noon to 12:10 p.m. Um next we have the Friends of Arin uh Mtok St. Patrick's Day parade, Edgemeir Road to Mok Highway, ending at Kirk Park. That takes place Sunday, March 29th from noon to 3 p.m. Rain or shine. >> Second. >> All in favor? I. >> Resolution 453 is approval of various special events for April 2026. Resolved that the uh following special event permits are hereby approved with the conditions agreed upon by the reviewing committee. First is center for eco technology. This is the New York State Compost Operators Workshop. It takes place at East Hampton Transfer Station uh Wednesday, April 1st, 11:00 a.m. to 3 PM. Uh this is for uh transfer station composting operators and and not for the public. The second uh event

185is the MAK Chamber of Commer commerce. It's that time for the 10th annual extravaganza Easter egg hunt. takes place on Montalk Green uh Saturday, April 4th, 11 am to 3 pm. >> Second. >> All in favor? I >> I have resolution 2026454. It's a secret determination for various bond resolutions. The town board finds the following projects for the departments listed as qualifies as a type 2 action under SRA and as such no environmental analysis of the proposed projects are required. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. Resolution 455 is a bond resolution for $1,290,000 for townwide building improvements. >> Second. >> Roll. Roll call. I need a second and then we do the roll call. >> Thank you. >> It's been seconded. >> I second. >> Kate second. >> Council member Tom Flight. >>

186I. >> Deputy Supervisor David Lee. >> I. >> Council member Kate Rogers. >> I. Uh, council member Ian Calder Peemont. >> I, >> Supervisor Kathy Bur Gonzalez. >> I, >> Resolution 456 is a bond resolution for 1,374,280. This is for heavy duty vehicles and equipment for various departments and the period of probable usefulness is 15 years. Second, >> you're going to get tired of my voice. Council member Tom Flight, >> speed it up. Deputy Supervisor David Lee. >> Hi. >> Council member K. Rogers. >> Hi. >> Council member Ian Calter Pedmont. Hi. >> Supervisor Kathy Bur Gonzalez. >> I. Resolution 457 is a bond for $2.5 million for bulkhead replacement. The period of probable usefulness is 20 years. Second. >> Council member Flight. >> I. >> Deputy Supervisor Lee. >> I. >> Council member Rogers.

187>> Hi. >> Council member Calder Pedmont. >> Hi. >> Supervisor Burke Gonzalez. >> Hi. Resolution 458 is a bond for $2.7 million for various improvements. Second, >> Council Member Fleet >> I. >> Deputy Supervisor Lee. >> I. >> Council member Rogers. >> I. >> Council member Calder Pimar. >> I. >> Supervisor Burke Gonzalez. >> I. 459 is to bond $175,000 for the land building upgrades with the period of probable usefulness of 10 years. Second. >> Council member Flight. >> I. Deputy Supervisor Lee. >> Hi. >> Council member Rogers. >> Hi. >> Council member Calder Pedmont. >> I. >> Supervisor Burke Gonzalez. >> I 460 is a bond resolution for $270,000 for the construction of sidewalk improvements. Period of probable usefulness is 10 years. >> Second. >> Council member Flight. >> I. >> Deputy Supervisor Lee.

188>> Hi. >> Council member Rogers. >> Hi. >> Council member Calder Pedmont. >> Hi. >> Supervisor Burke Gonzalez. >> I. 461 is a bond for $280,000 for park improvements. This is for a period of probable usefulness for 15 years. And this is resolution is being amended. As the schedule one is being replaced, the clerk has already put in the correct schedule one. Second. >> Council member Flight. >> I. >> Deputy Supervisor Lee. >> Hi. >> Council member Rogers. >> I. >> Council member Calder Pedmont. >> Hi. >> Supervisor Burke Gonzalez. I462 is a bond resolution for $485,000 for townwide HVAC improvements. The period of probable usefulness is 10 years. >> Second. >> Council member Fle. >> I. >> Deputy Supervisor Lee. >> I. >> Council member Rogers. >> I. >> Council member Calder Prim. >>

189I. >> Supervisor Burke Gonzalez. >> I. 463 is a bond for $550,000 for road improvements. The period of probable usefulness is 15 years. Second. >> Council member Flight. >> Hi. >> Deputy Supervisor Lee. >> I. >> Council member Rogers. >> Hi. >> Council member Calder Pedmont. >> I. >> Supervisor Burke Gonzalez. >> I. 464 is a notice of public hearing for $792,700 for the sanitation district projects bond. And this public hearing is to be held on April 2nd uh at 6 PM. Michael, there's needs to be an amendment on the um ordered. There's a typo. The public hearing on April 2nd, there's a 30 that comes after it that needs to be removed. Second is amended. >> All in favor? I I >> I have resolution 465, resolution to state enforcement of local law number

19026 of 2023 amending town code chapter 102-14 certificate of occupancy. Whereas by resolution 2023- uh 1330 adopted on October 5th, 2023, the town board amended the code of the town of East Hampton chapter 102-14 certificate of occupancies to require an updated certificate of occupancy upon transfer of ownership of property. And whereas the town has received community feedback regarding delays in the processing of updated certificates of occupancy. And whereas the town board determines that it is in the best interest of the town to stay the enforcement of local law 26 of 2023 to allow for town departments to more expeditiously process the current pending application. And whereas the imposi imposition of a stay of enforcement of local law 26 of 2023 is a type 2 action pursuant to 6 New York CRR 617.5C 33 and 35

191and no further secret review is required now. Therefore, it be it resolved that enforcement of local law 26 of 2023 is stayed retroactively from January 1st, 2024 through December 31st, 2026. >> Second >> discussion. Sorry. Yeah. Uh so um this is um um a resolution that temporarily pauses enforcement of the local law 26 of 2023 which as I just stated amended town code chapter 102-14 to require an updated CO upon the transfer of property ownership. Uh the roll out of both open gov online per permitting and now input from users with an improved experience for open gov part two. Uh what I'm doing now is I'm going to walk through uh what we've done for the building department um uh over the last uh almost year. Um strengthening staffing in the building department has always

192been and making these improvements a top priority for this board. Uh since Richard Normile was appointed uh principal building inspector about six months ago, the town expanded staffing in the department and is in the process of adding several new positions to support permit review and administration. The town is also actively seeking to hire the Spanish-sp speakaking building inspector. And at the March 6 board meeting, the town also hired an account clerk and also improve uh made a res uh resolution uh in earlier in the year to bring back Rich Vacio to provide uh continued training support for current and new employees. Um and also to further address the volume, we've hired outside uh a consultants uh and firms to uh support the building department during the transition. However, that all being said, and we know

193since January 1st, 2025, the building department has issued 1,606 building permits, conducted 3,685 inspections, processed 855 permit renewals, issued 870 certificates of occupancy, and handled 1,6 rental registry uh uh uh registrations, 25 letters of buildability. processed 1,525 certified copies of permits and certificates, 11 signed permits, and the monthly counter logs show an average of over 4,000 phone calls and walk-ins at six uh are about 600 uh a month. Uh all during a time when several key factors impacted the productivity of the building department. I support this pause until the improvements we have made work through the black backlog. However, I would not support a repeal. Um, what we have uh here is also some proof of concept which adding to the uh delays in processing. We know that a that six out of 10 of

194the updated SEO applications have structures on them uh including finished basement and finished basement that were not built with the benefit of a building permit. Um, these folks now need to legalize structures on the property before they can receive a CO. So they can't move forward in any way until they legalize uh these structures. This didn't happen last year that people built these structures. Many of these structures were built quite a while ago. Uh so in order to uh until we are running at processing capacity out of fairness to the community, the applicants and the users, I support this pause through the end of this year. That said, buyers and representative of buyers exercise their right to ensure the property they are purchasing is offering full discourse um regarding certificates of occupancy and improvements on

195the land. But until we are running at a a full processing capacity with all the improvements that we made, I do support uh this pause through the end of the year. >> Thank you, Kate. Would anyone else like >> Yeah, I I I would um I I support this generally. I would just say that look this gives us till the end of the year. I would like to use that time to not repeal the code but look for ways to make it uh draft it in such a way that is more manageable for people requiring it whether increases the timeline from 6 months to 12 months. Um but I do think we should kind of start a group to you know bring forward a revised code um to improve our operations. >> Yeah. So, I've

196started that and I do have some recommendations along with other code changes as well. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I'm I'm open I'm open to that, Tom. I I uh I'm supportive of this and I think, you know, as as Kate said, I don't think and from the feedback I've heard, I don't think people object to updating the CEOs. It's just the the current delay. And so, the idea is to sort of give some relief. Um so, I'm supportive of it. I I would be go even a little bit further and be supportive of a temporary repeal. Um I'm just my only concern is that if the law is still officially on the books how that plays out and I think that this is the first time we're mentioning it. So I'll look forward to feedback

197from the community to to see if this is effective at accomplishing our goal which is to you know get rid of the backlog and let you know real estate transactions to continue to take place. >> My only comment well one of my comments obviously I I support the the stay. It's something that we've been working on having discussions with our town attorney's office. Um, and part of it is that as Kate mentioned, we have added new staffing. We've had added a new building inspector, two plans examiners, and a senior office assistant and an office assistant. And I I believe that we not only we need time for that to hire some of those open positions and get them trained. And this stay will give us the ability to get key staff into roles that they

198need to be in, get them the training they need so that we can work through this backlog. Um, and I I think, you know, I speak for the board and, you know, Kate's mentioned, I mean, this is a our top priority. We understand the importance of our our building industry, our our real estate uh industry, and you know, we're not looking to cause frustration to folks that are just looking to sell their home. Uh so, we're we're trying to work through this. Kate outlined some of the things that we've been doing and you know, it's been it's a great opportunity. Rich Norm oil has been here it's almost six months and he is the you know giving us the feedback of what types of you know what roles needed to be uh put in place.

199You know we needed two more clerical staff. We've been working with the plans examiner. I know there was a comment made earlier. Yes, we're outsourcing uh plans examinations to three firms. Um those resolutions were done publicly. the hourly rates that we're paying people is for everyone to see. I believe they may are in the body of the resolution and if not people can ask for a copy of that um of the agreements we have with those three firms. Um we think that this is um a efficient way in the short term to get you know plans uh reviewed and move through the system and it's something that you know we're all supportive of. Kate mentioned we brought Rich Vakio back. He's going out uh with our new building inspectors showing them the ropes so to

200speak when they go out on um to do inspections and it's all part of their training process. So um I think that you know what were you going to say? >> We have to vote. >> Yeah. No, I know. But I mean I think that you know we've got a lot of plans in place and the open gov to Tom's point with 2.0 0. Now that we rather than things going into one bucket and a solar application getting behind a a a new build, we've got the separate bucket so that it be very easy to see, you know, um what's solar, what's for a pool, and those things can be, you know, peeled off and and handled more expeditiously. So, um that is why I'm in support of the stay to give everybody a chance

201to catch up uh on the backlog. So, uh, we have a second. All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. And then I believe I had another resolution. >> 66. >> I have resolution >> 466 is to adopt a local law to amend chapter 75 airport. The town board held a public hearing on March 5th, 2026, and there were no comments received at the time of the public hearing. So, uh, do I have a second to >> second? And then there's one more. >> Yeah. Second. All in favor? >> I >> We did that. We did that last John Keishan one. So those are all of our resolutions for today. So now do I have a motion to go into exec session? Uh >> yes. I'd like to make a motion to go into executive session

202for CPF personnel litigation uh contracts and advice of counsel. >> Second. All in favor? >> Thank you everyone for joining us and thank you LTV and the Montalk Library. >> Thank you. And you