East Hampton Town Board Work Session 07/01/25

001East Hampton Town Board. We are live. Morning everyone and welcome to the East Hampton Town Board work session of Tuesday, July 1st, 2025. Cheryl, if you could please read the roll call. Present. If we could all please stand for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. So we start today's meeting with public portion. We ask you to please kindly keep your comments to three minutes and that's followed we have four topics today. The first is bids. Then we're going to get a presentation from our junior lifeguard cadets on beach water safety. That'll be followed by recommendations for the ADU committee on code changes and lastly we'll have a discussion on

002the special event lake fees. That'll be followed by liaison reports and resolutions. So first we'll start with public portion. I don't know, Cheryl, if anyone signed up. Is there anyone here in the meeting room that would like to David, come on down. July 1st. Welcome, David. Thank you. Happy summer. Happy summer. New month. Um, David Buddha from the Springs. Um, beginning to feel like this is a an episode of the Groundhog Day. I I'm here to repeat what I said on November the 12th and April the 1st when prior discussions by the uh ADU committee for drastic changes to the town code are being again uh advocated. The two most critical changes that are again now being expressly requested are not warranted, not needed, not lawful in my opinion to exempt within an ordinary single

003family residential zone to exempt a house that has an ADU from the zoning requirements that place limits on the amount of uh gross floor area is unwarranted. unwise. I don't have to tell any of you why you recently changed the code to make some reasonable additional limits on the use of our property so as not to overburden the community, not to overburden the environment, but to take a class of ownership and give them some special exemption from those GFA regulations would be simply unwarranted. And I frankly don't know how your town attorney would find a basis for authorizing such a change. The other thing that you're again trying to bring up is the reduction in the minimum lot area which is currently 20,000 builder half acre. Now most of you know the history of zoning

004in the town didn't start there was no zoning till 1957. There are a couple of areas of town that do have a lot of small lots. They tend to be lots that were created before zoning. Um they tend to be areas near the beaches. They tend to be extremely environmentally sensitive in terms of the uh u beach areas of say beach haven or uh ditch plains. Two areas I'm familiar with. Um these are areas that especially need not to be overburdened by increased density. So there's ample opportunity. And by the way, I'll repeat something I've said prior previously. I am in my opinion a strong advocate for affordable housing. The town should do much more to develop affordable housing apartments, to find affordable housing zoning areas that are not currently zoned, to encourage uh the

005development of affordable housing, but to do so within the existing single family zones by exempting certain owners from the laws and rules that everyone else must comply with or to and to consider allowing ADUs on lots smaller than 20,000 is really in my opinion very unwise standard time that was your let me just say that um sure there are there are lots that are just under 20,000 there are some areas of the town that were zoned that were lawfully created with lots that were 15,000 square foot there aren't a lot of 10,000 square foot lots and you know your analysis that was done where you group together all lots between 10,000 and 15,000 really mixes apples and oranges. You really have to consider what the impact on the neighborhood on the environment would be to

006allow ADUs to be placed on a 10,000 square foot lot and then exempt that additional up to,200 square ft of floor area from your regulations. you are essentially undercutting yourselves. The reforms that you recently implemented will now be undercut by your own proposed action. So I do hope that you will continue to resist this effort to make these two radical drastic changes that really are not necessary. Adus are fine. I prefer to call them affordable accessory apartments, but now we have a new terminology. Uh, I do think there's plenty of room and need for additional affordable housing, but there is single family zoning and that needs to be respected and uh and maintained. Thank you. Thank you, David. Is there anyone else that would like to address the board? Jason, is there anyone on the

007line? Yes, we have one caller on the line. Let me unmute them right now. And caller ending for 221, you are on the air. Thank you, LTV. Good morning, town board. This is Jane Bearing and I'm speaking today only as an individual resident uh and not a member or representing any town appointed board or committee. I'm here for a couple minutes to add some comments to dialogue related to the upcoming work session later in this meeting regarding ADUs. But before that, first I want to acknowledge that today is July 1. And aside from saying the lucky quote rabbit rabbit as my first word to you, I also want to note that this July one is the date that the zoning code changes related to maximum GFA formula become fully effective. And once again, I want

008to acknowledge all the members of this town board, town staff, and so many members of the public who came together over I think what was like a three-year period of thought and review to drive that important change. But in the words of Alanis Moriceet, the 1990s queen of alt rock angst, I will say, quote, "Isn't it ironic? Isn't it ironic that I'm here to comment on a proposed piece of code that looks to contravene the very zoning code that becomes effective today by proposing that certain resident instructors be exempt from all dimensional zoning regulations including max GFA max coverage and setbacks and to do that on lots that are already deeply substandard undersized non-conforming to resident zone lot area minimums and likely in neighborhoods of already with the greatest most stress density city. This proposal

009is indeed quote a jagged little pill to swallow. So, here are my thoughts. Adding ADUs on lots less than 20,000 uh is indeed a stretch. Um all four board members com four of the five board members commented at the last work session that going to 10,000 didn't seem particularly appropriate or justified. So, it seems odd to me we're back here with the same idea being moved forward again. My view is that a reduction to perhaps 17,500 square foot lots, the most appropriate, it would add another nearly 9% to the possible pool of lots or perhaps I get a compromise down to 15,000 square ft for lot threshold um which expands the applicant pool somewhat greater about 14%. But it would still have some modicum of respect for the comprehensive plan and the greatest non-conforming density

010of the resident zones. Second, I firmly believe that ADUs must adhere to dimensional zoning formulas and maximums. I could make a case that a detached ADU of up to 600 square foot could be exempt from GFA, but it still should have to meet building coverage, lot coverages, setbacks, etc. And with respect to attached ADUs, they really must meet GFA coverage and setbacks as well. Also I have for years questioned the max of,200 square feet for an attached ADU if that is all above ground living space and I continue to do so here. So for a max attached um uh ADU perhaps 600 square ft um or a proration of not 6% but 4% or 4 and a half% of lot area makes more sense. That puts the max um uh more a bit more moderate

011but still spacious. Lastly, I am personally um working my thought process through about the allowance for ADUs on property owned by seasonal, second, third, fourth, etc. homeowners. I won't go into those thoughts now, but I do believe it creates a very very big enforcement hurdle and is right for abuse and for building units that will really not serve the full-time resident backbone of the community. Just my last sentence to to wrap up. In the last work session on this topic, Councilman Calder Pean said it well. We want to create opportunity, not create problems. And I think many of us will will agree exemption from dimensional zoning maximums going way down on lot size and enabling 1,200 foot ADUs are very likely to create enormous problems especially when ADUs are no more because of non because

012of changes in circumstances and sale of property. So I again look forward to the work session later today. Thank you for indulging me a little extra time here. Thank you, Jane. Is there anyone else on the line, Jason, that would like to address the board? We have no other callers. Okay, so we're going to move on then to our topics. First up is Jeannie Corrosa with bids. Welcome, Jeanie. Good morning. Good morning. All righty. Um the first bid this morning is um I'm looking at the wrong one. Um, the trauma screen for sanitation. The apparent low bidder is Emerald Equipment Systems in the amount of $344,680. Um, and they, and good news about that one, they came in well under budget. Um, next is for the supply and delivery of food items. U Milla Foods

013is the apparent low bidder for that. Food service and kitchen wear items. Um, Mavilla, Sam, Telen, Sun, Interal Packaging, and Grady's team are all the apparent low bidders. Um, we have several extensions. The first being the Fort Hill Cemetery intermits and maintenance contract, and that's with Peter Joyce Seaside Landscaping. The annual amount for that is $28,966. HVAC repairs, service, and installation for the gener communication towers. Best Climate Control and also Best Climate Control um agreed to extend the cooperative we have with Sag Harbor Schools for the same um services. Auto parts extension to advanced stores, GradeA Petroleum, Fleet Pride and Morgan Auto Supply. And finally, we have a notice for an IIA system installation for 20 Dorset Road. And that's it. All right. Anyone have questions for Jeanie? No, I'm good. Thank you. Beautiful. Thank

014you, Jean. Thank you. Okay, next up we have a presentation from two of our junior lifeguard cadets, Vanessa Rizzo and Lucy Knight. But Chief Ryan, did you want to set this up first? Thank you. [Music] Uh uh thank you. Thank you very much for allowing us to be here. Um our junior our Nipper program, junior lifeguard program and our cadet program are are a are powerful way in which we not just uh help learn young individuals become better swimmers but more more towards becoming water safe and education is the key to this this program those programs. Um I our our cadet program uh is our graduating group of junior lifeguards. Many of these these young ladies entered as a nipper at the age of six or seven or eight and then moved up into the

015junior lifeguard program at age 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 and now are 15y olds that have become Stillwater certified or looking to become Stillwater certified and then looking to move forward even more to becoming an ocean lifeguard. So, our cadet program is like an it's it's like an apprentice program. Our three our goals is to promote, educate, and encourage to promote water safety and awareness of the local our local beaches to educate young women, men, and women in the role of an ocean lifeguard to promote phys uh physical fitness, team building, CPR, and first aid. and to encourage both young men and young women to continue to complete uh complete the course and one day pursue a lifeguard certification and return to the open as open mortal lifeguards. Um we know that education is

016is vital to making sure that people are safe in our beaches. So, we I've brought these two cadetses to here today to talk about water safety and water safe give you some water safety tips. And the timing couldn't be more perfect with Fourth of July upon us. Absolutely. All right, ladies. Good morning. I'm going to be Vanna Vanna White, obviously. Welcome. It's good to have you both here today. Thank you. Thank you. Hi, I'm Lucy Knight and I have been in this junior lifeguard program since kindergarten. So, I was been here since I was six. I'm now turning 15 and I started off as a nipper guard and then I became a junior and now I'm a cadet going to my sophomore year of high school. Through the years, this program has taught me so

017much about ocean safety and I'm here to now today to tell you about the ocean safety tips. Hi, my name is Vanessa Rizzo and I've been a junior lifeguard for 5 years and I'm and I'm a cadet this year. I highly recommend this program to every kid as it's taught me so much about how to be comfortable and safe in the ocean. Today, Lucy and I would like to share some tips on water safety. With summer now in full swing, East Hampton Town Lifeguard cadets wish to welcome you and having a safe summer of 2025 by offering you some water safety tips. Rule number one, learn to swim. You can be any age to learn and the town offers free lessons at the bay beaches. Rule number two, know where you are. Beach access signs.

018That's good. Know where you're at. So, at every beach there are it's got to be if we want it on the camera. So, at every beach there are one of these signs. Um, so always know that you're going to this camera right here. That one. Johnny. This one. John. This camera right here. One close to me. Come stand right in front of me and you can hold it up. That's There you go. Yep. and hold it up high to that camera. Jason, can you just Oh, nice. Perfection. Perfection. At everyone, at every beach, there is one of these signs. And so, whenever you're at the beach, look at that sign so you know exactly where you are. So, what does 16A mean? What is the A Yeah. So, it's W is for Wayne Scott, A

019is for Amiganza, and M is for Montalk. and they go from west to east in in numerical order on of all our beach access points. Rule number three, in any suspected emergency, call 911 immediately. The easiest part of a swimming rescue is getting to the victim. The hardest part is keeping them afloat. Always use a flotation device for every rescue. Rule number four, always swim near lifeguard. They are there to help you and keep you safe. Rule number five, never swim alone, even in your own pool. It's best to swim with a partner to ensure safety. Rule number six, never underestimate the surf. Conditions can change and become extremely dangerous. Number seven, know the flag colors. The flag colors are green, yellow, red, and no flag. Green indicates safe conditions. A yellow flag is cautious

020conditions with larger surf and moderate rip currents. Red flag is dangerous conditions, restricted swimming due to dangerous surf, and strong rip current advisory. No flag means no swimming, and there is extremely dangerous surf. Do you want to show them the sign? So, going back to um going back to rule number six, never under underestimate the surf. There are signs and when you scan them, it can tell you about the conditions of the surf for the day. Rule number eight, a non-swmer should not rely on flotation devices such as boogie boards, surfboards, tubes, and rafts. You may lose them in the water and leashes can break and you can get sucked out in a in a rip current with a flotation device. Number nine. If you are in trouble, shout and wave one arm up with

021a closed fist like this for help. A lifeguard will come immediately. Rule number 10. If caught in a rip current, stay calm and swim across the current parallel to shore until you escape it. Then you can make your way back to shore. If you cannot swim across the current, let it carry you out. Eventually, it will lose force. Then you can swim away from it and back towards the shore using a non-tiring stroke. If you get tired, wave with a closed fist and call for help. The non-tiring strokes are breaststroke and side stroke, and they prevent like wasted energy so you can remain calm and escape safely. Number 11, never dive into unknown waters or shallow breaking waves. Dive with hand with hands down and head up like this to avoid head and neck injuries.

022Also, look for rip currents and check the flag before entering the ocean. And most importantly, have a safe and enjoyable summer. Beautiful. Thank you. Don't don't sit down so fast because board members may have questions. So, I I'm going to actually go out of order and go first. So, I'm sure because you've been in these programs for so long that you do the lifeguard competitions. What are your favorite or your strongest events that you compete in? Well, we're doing the tour rescue at nationals this year partners. Wow. Congratulations. Yeah, we're really excited. Where's Nationals this year? It's in California, but I don't know the exact location, but it should be coming out soon. Yeah. So, you're going to do torp rescue rescue and compete against teams from all across the country? Yeah. Have you been

023to nationals before? Yes, I've been going since I was nine, I think. So, I've been going for like the past couple nationals. Wow. Terrific. It's been at like Virginia Beach, Texas, and I was in California, which is like the big exciting one. Texas is very hot. Yes, I can imagine. Do board members have questions? I've got one, which is just outside of what we've just discussed. You know, what's one change that you would like to see in people's behavior on the beaches to improve safety on our beaches? probably to not be so reckless around like the ocean and like under really underestimating the surf because that's really how people need saving. Yeah. Thank you. If you had friends or family or visitors that are out here that had children there from 6 to 8 years

024old, give me one sentence about what you would tell them about the Nipper program and how important it is for a child of that age to learn about the water. Um for me because I started at six um years old, it was extremely helpful because one it helped me get super comfortable with because it's in the bay usually at um Alberts. It g made me extremely comfortable in bay waters and really as at such a young age it like it taught me so much like the basics of tour rescue when we were so little and once you finish that program and you are really comfortable going to the junior program with like the real ocean. Yeah. Practicing the bay as like a little kid really like sets you up for like the ocean so you

025can feel more comfortable when you're older and you can even help other people and like educate others on how they can stay safe in like a dangerous situation. I just want to follow up on that. I just don't thank you but I also thank your parents also because a lot of parents put extra time in to get their children to these very specific and important type of activities that you know uh the town's lifeguard program and recreation hold and too. So I thank the your parents also for for their commitment to that also. And I want to thank you for being trusted messengers uh in your age group to people because I think it's very important for for peer-to-peer communication uh on these issues and how to be safe. I think folks are much more

026opening open to hearing it from people their own age than someone standing over them. So, I hope you realize how important your participation is and I thank you for your service to our community. I don't have any questions. I would just like to say thank you for being part of the program and for this wonderful presentation. It's uh I love what you do. Water safety is very important here and I I appreciate it very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Lucy. Thanks, Vanessa. Just so you know, you wouldn't believe it, but uh just this morning I I work at the wire in at the mic, please. Sorry. I work at the Y every Tuesday morning from opening 5:45 uh to 10:00 and then I leave there. These guys are there at 5:45 to

027swim uh 4,000 sometimes 5,000 yards. Wow. Wow. So just think about that. That's How many laps is that? Do almost three miles. Wow. How many laps do you ladies swim then in the morning? 72 times. Wow. 72. 72 time three. So 4,000 yards. I'm more of a two to seven times. So four four times 72. Four miles. Wow. Pretty 300 laps. Johnny, you want to explain what you what you left with us? This is our uh cad cadet manual. uh in it is a number of um just an overview of the program. It uh it discusses uh the the guards uh what what the uh guards but also what the uh lifeguards are expected to do in the program. Uh it's almost like a checklist. Uh it also provides them opportunities to going through this

028to understand how our beaches are set up in the chain of command. Um it uh goes on to giving the sa safety tips as they um as they pro continue throughout the season. We do bring them down to like homeowners associations like on the ocean beaches like Beach Hampton area where people are outside the area and educate the juniors or the cadets can go and speak to these water safety tips and hand out rip current cards to individuals that are on the beach and make sure that they are understand the dangers of the ocean and and how to be safe. Um it goes on to uh giving the standards for the ocean certification course um and the still water certification course that we we uh we provide in the spring and and in the in

029uh late summer. Uh it also in the uh in it it goes over the ten command ten commandments of a lifeguard given to me by Smith Point Joe Douly. God rest his soul. uh um it in in the hand signals, lifeguards hand signals, whistle signals. Um and then uh incident reports when these individuals start to train and practice or or train and practice rescues in the uh to in in the cadet portion of the their their class, their course. They're they come in and pretend like the individual they rescued is a is a is a beach patron and they take a a report uh which all lifeguards have to do. So they're getting uh learning how to how to write reports um that could be provided for any kind of incident whether it's a missing

030person's or it's a uh it's a it's a medical EMS call or it's a swimmer in distress rescued. Um and then uh and there also we do radio communications and um video communications and dealing with u enforcing the rules and regulations of the beaches. So there's a lot to it every week that they come. We we offer them something new. Uh we're we just purchased I I will say Hampton Lifeguard Association just purchased a number of uh collapsible mannequins that we can bring onto the beach. You certainly want to bring the expensive ones onto the beach, but we want to bring collapsible mannequins that we can carry down there and take them out and set them up and and teach CPR right there. So, so we're going to be using our social media leading up

031to Fourth of July and throughout the summer and posting about green, yellow, red flags, what that means. I think we're going to add the the location signs because I don't think we've ever posted about that before. We do post about the rip currents, but I think the the ladies brought up the hand signals. We should probably do a post so that if find somebody finds themsself out in the surf that they know how to signal to the lifeguard. So that's something we'll include that you brought up today. So we appreciate that. Absolutely. So that we can amplify the message of beach safety, right? That's how ocean rescue was started. four four young girls who were in trouble waving to their mother on the beach and mom would be waving back and back to the book

032waving back to the back to the book and they didn't realize they were in trouble. Wow. And that uh that was the the rescue that started East Volunteer Rescue in the And how many years ago was that? About 2003 02. Wow. So, thank you Johnny for everything. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you all. Okay, next up, uh Tom is going to lead the discussion on the ADU commun uh committee code change recommendations. Thank you, Madam Supervisor. While Amory brings this up, I'll just give a kind of quick background and um you know, firstly, I want to thank everybody who's given feedback on this. Um you know, we've heard a lot of arguments both for and against. Um you know some of the concerns we see whenever we add housing, concerns about loss of

033open space, um impacts to wetlands, water supplies, rights of way, road traffic control, communications impacts, you know, does our power infrastructure able to um manage it? Do our emergency services are they able to cope with increased housing? What impact is this going to have on school taxes? Um look, the these are concerns we have with any housing project we bring in. Um, and I think, you know, look that there are going to be some people out there who no matter what don't want to see more housing out here. Um, you know, I see my role on this town board is, you know, addressing some of the the key operational threats to the town and for me housing is top of that list. Um, ad ADUs as I see it, you know, are a great mechanism

034to achieve that. Um, I would I would like us to be more aggressive in our affordable housing. I think you know in the past you know green at gardener's point is a wonderful wonderful example of what we can do but we could have built more units there if we be more aggressive. Um you know additionally there's very limited spaces where we can kind of complete those kind of projects. So in order for us to really meet the needs of the town be it through our schools our hospitals um our police force town employees we desperately need more affordable housing. ADUs themselves, you know, are considered affordable by the fact that they are rent controlled. They're not income controlled, but they are rent controlled, allowing people of income restrictions to rent them as as they can.

035Um, you know, I also want to acknowledge, you know, the wide range of voices we've heard on this. you know, some of the public comment we get here is is less supportive, but out in the public. Um, generally speaking, this is something I'm hearing that people really want to see uh for a variety of reasons. Uh, one other piece I just want to talk to with regards to ADUs and exemption. Um, you know, there is some precedent for this. U New York state law does actually allow properties to be exempt from property tax increases um for adding GFAs. Um, GFA is not counted towards property taxes. There's also exemptions other states such as Massachusetts and California, Greenberg, uh New York is also looking at this as a piece. But anything we do introduce will of

036course be looked at by our town attorney and external attorneys as necessary. Um jumping into the presentation where we left off last time. Um so we we brought to the board previously a range of kind of areas, some which we reached consensus on, some of which we kind of look to explore further. um you know where we can we kind of generally all agreed was the uh removal requirements the property be a property owner's primary legal residence to allow second homeowners to build ADUs. We also agreed on the fact that the tenant must be either a family member of the owner or a resident meaning someone who lives or works in the town of East Hampton. We also agreed to change the rule that the ADUs be the tenants's legal doicile to changes to their

037sole legal residence to make it clear that this tenant should not have other housing. The areas that we wanted to explore further were changing the minimum lot size requirement. We'd previously looked at a 10,000 reduction from 20,000 square feet uh and to change the number of vehicles that were permitted on ADU lot from four to six. Um and you know as we discussed in the GFA discussion itself um to exempt ADUs from GFA calculations. One piece I want to talk to you very quickly with regards to that is to kind of note the distinction between what took place in that code amendment and what this is about. From my understanding and my colleagues feel free to kind of jump in on this as you see fit. When we had the discussion about the GFA reduction,

038this wasn't about taking away affordable housing. Quite contrary to it, as we had the discussion, we said ADU should likely be exempt from this. We didn't put that into that code change. But the reduction in that was more about giant houses that were largely unoccupied rather than providing affordable housing. Um, if we could jump on to the next slide. So, a few pieces we wanted to come back and discuss were what lot sizes were current ADUs on. So, if we could bring up that first graphic. Thank you. As you can see here, the vast majority of ADUs by dent of what the code is or in lot sizes over 20,000 square ft. We do surprisingly have some that fall into these smaller categories. Um you know that is a result of um things just coming

039through going through the bordon being allowed. So you know I think that speaks to two things. One is is that ADUs can exist on smaller lots with minimal complaint or impact because we haven't seen it. But largely that you know ADUs are being built where we allow them to be built. If we could go on to the next slide. So this is pending ADU applications. what we kind of have seen come in in the last few months, especially with the CD1 plus grant. Um, and as you can see here, again, the vast majority of applications we're seeing from a town perspective, are coming in on the larger lot sizes. We do see, you know, 15% coming in in that 15 to 20,000 square foot area, um, one thing I will call out with that is

040when you dig into that data, those lots are typically in kind of the 19 to 20,000 square foot range. But no people are actually applying um because of the code for the smaller lot sizes for ADU applications. Um the next question was you know discussion of ADUs on smaller lots on community character school district school taxes. So if we could just bring up the first slide here. Okay. So this is just you know going through the town um town data on all residential lots in the town. Um just to kind of see where by Hamlet lot sizes fall. Um you know you can kind of see the the smaller lot sizes the sub 10,000 square ft we've kind of taken out of this conversation. But if you begin to jump in on the next slide

041please. Perfect. Um so here you can begin to see um at at specific grouping so the 10,000 to 15,000 square ft where do the lots lie. So on the lighter um green colors you're kind of looking at the smaller number of lots. Um so you know Springs has got a relatively small number uh in that light green and on the darker red colors you're seeing kind of you know the high higher levels of lots here. So you know you can begin to see on this where um where our concentration of small lots are by Hamlet. And if we could go to the last slide here please. It's your last table on this slide. Sorry. Okay. So then this is looking within hamlets themselves on this last slide. So if you go through this first row

042and we look at amigans example 16.8% of amigans lots are between 10 and 15,000 square ft. If you go to Sag Harbor 41,000 are in that category. Um you know if you go to montalkk you can say that 42% of monttok lots are sub 20,000 square feet um springs 24%. So there is some variation by hamlet here obviously where the lot sizes are and where adus are current being allowed to build and that has some knock-on impacts to to housing. Um one piece that did get raised to me on this which I I think is something worth talking to at a hamlet level as well is you know impact to school taxes. Um, you know, I I appreciate that like look, we we you know, by adding ADUs, there is potential that you will have

043younger families moving in and potentially children going to the school. Um, the piece I want to kind of really clearly uh make sure people understand is that we have a cap on ADUs. There are only 40 allowed for Hamlet. That cap is not changing. We're not proposing to change that. So those 40 units that could be built in any Hamlet are the same irrespective of the lot size. It's just a question of are we serious about adding housing to these hamlets? In which case, do we wish to open up the pool of potential applicants who can build ADUs or do we wish to restrict this to kind of the wealthier homeowners with the larger lots? Um, next slide, please. Okay. So what I've done here is something that again I apologize because I bought this

044in from the private sector but I I think it's a helpful mechanism because there's there's never going to be necessarily distinctive agreement on what path we should take forward with this. So it's a 357 analysis where three is kind of what I'm putting out as you know the least aggressive scenario. We could bring that one up first please. Okay. So the the least aggressive approach that we kind of talked about here was I think where we ended up largely the kind of the board felt last time from the previous presentation was like maybe we don't want to go to 10,000 square ft. Perhaps we should be looking more at like a 15,000 square foot lots. What does that do to our potential pool of applicants? Well, if we go to 15,000 square ft as a

045minimum lot size for ADUs, that would increase potential applicants in terms of lots by about 2,800 or 14% of town residential properties. Option five, which is kind of a more balanced approach. All right. So, this is kind of potentially putting out there that we allow ADUs of up to 6% of total lot size on lots of 10,000 to 15,000 square ft and up to 12,000 on lots on 15,000 ft or higher. This would increase our potential applicants by 4,911 or 25% of existing town residential lots. And lastly, seven, which is kind of what the initial proposal was last time, which is to allow ADUs of uh 12,000 square feet on lots of uh minimum size of 10,000 square ft. Again, the number of units we would potentially or sorry, number of lots would potentially then

046be eligible increases by the same amount 4,911 or 25 sorry 25% of residential properties. Next slide, please. Parking. Um, so with regards to parking, I mean, just I think the first thing to do here is to kind of call out where we are with existing parking situations. So on a homeowner's lot as it stands, there is no restriction on the number of cars that can be parked in a lot. Additionally, on short-term rentals, there is no restriction on the number of cars can be parked in a lot. However, on ADU properties, there is a restriction that only four cars can be parked on a lot. Logistically speaking, you know, if you are talking of a four or five family um house and they're looking to add on an ADU that a couple both working move

047into, you would require two more cars potentially on that lot. The question then becomes where do you put those cars? Do you say to the existing family, hey, we know you have two kids who drive and you know, both parents drive in your situation, you can't have any more cars. Or do we look to find a way to make this work? Um you know the initial proposal we'd come back from the committee here was to allow six cars on ADU properties. We still think this is the best approach to parking here. Um however you know you know I I think irrespective there's a need to add some parking should we allow ADUs. So a compromise here of five cars um you know to limit impacts to neighborhood character is something that the uh committee is

048open you know to presenting here as well. Next slide please. And lastly, GFA exclusion. Um, the current code does not exempt the GFA of an attached ADU from the uh GFA calculation for the primary residence. Um, you know, ADUs are required to meet all setback requirements of the principal structure, but the GFA as it currently stands would be counted. Um, we did discuss as I mentioned earlier during the GFA discussion the concept of um, you know, excluding ADUs from that GFA calculation. I think, you know, when you look at what that code is and what else is exempt in terms that you could exempt a 600 foot garage, but you couldn't exempt a 600 foot ADU, you know, there's a there's a balance there to say is that an environmental discussion? What's what's the kind

049of right path forward on this one? So, the recommendation from the committee here is is to continue to exclude ADUs from the GFA calculation as per the law allowing it. Um I would use that state law 421P um regarding uh ADUs being exempt from property tax increases um as a starting point and we could work that from there as the law permits and you know next steps obviously I haven't put a timeline on at this time um you know it is something that I do would like to move forward with as time permits um you know so I would like to be aggressive on this because I I really would like to get more housing out there. I think it's our pressing need. Thank you. Thanks, Don. Let's move to discussion. Yeah. David, do you

050want to start us off? Uh, sure. Um, I think one of my first um one of my first legislative I'll call it a victory here was when we did decrease um the uh lot area size from 40,000 square feet to 20,000 square ft for detached AVUs. Um, uh, we're pretty much only talking about attached ADUs here. Correct. Correct. Um, that unfortunately in my eyes didn't really release the valve that we wanted for more ADUs, but I think now that we have the community housing uh, funding to be able to do so, we might be able to see a greater mechanism financially. Also, uh I think we have to be very delicate with uh decreasing uh lot size here uh as we go because once you start getting into the UR roads or or locations in

051which developments happened 50 60 years ago on uh where they where developers were trying to put the maximum amount of properties into an area without open space parameters other easements on there then too it could change the character of that specific community hence neighborhood and it's very sim similar to my discussion points when we were on GFA discussion as we said and noted here even dish plane's different than beachampton is different than my Tiffany estates and it might be different than further lane in other areas then too so we have to be cognizant on that also uh as far as going back to the topics where consensus I'm still in those topics of consensus on there and I would like to see that move moved upon also uh I think if we're going to decrease

052Uh, I think the as far as the square footage, I think releasing the valve slower is better than larger on this. And I would be comfortable with going to 15,000 square feet to see what it would do to other AD ADUs. Uh, if you're getting to the maximum number of of vehicles on there, then too, um, smaller lots, I mean, if a if a parking spot, just a parking spot in general without any curbing or anything is 180 square ft. you're allowing five parking spots be 900 square feet and two uh to me on a on a 10,000 square foot lot this you know 9% would be 10% of your lot area um I could see that being appropriate five five cars I'm in a family where I have five cars and I got five

053I got five insurance payments I I got okay okay you know so but like if you have a family and then you want to have an ADU that might have two cars also a husband and wife or whatever the situation might be then too. I think that is uh that is something that we would have to adjust fairly and I think that's a fair fair recommendation. Uh yeah man they don't there's there's no economy of scale and insurance a little bit but still um under GFA exclusion on here uh it wasn't my intention to remove uh ADUs from from GFA. Uh I have a very difficult issue to find out what the clawback mechanism would be if that ADU that would be internally would be expired on there. How are you going to remove that?

054Do you turn it to storage? Do you decrease the collar ties on there? I guess I'm more of a cynicism on on that also. Uh my my my belief in ADU decreasing GFA was to be careful about massing restore. let's go, excuse me, maintain the character of these neighborhoods by trying to decrease that massing that we were seeing. That to me, myself personally, in my opinion, was uh offensive where we've been heading to in the last 10 years. So, I wouldn't be up for uh removing the the GFA for ADUs. I think there's a way that we uh we can do it appropriately within the formulas that we currently have. Uh but I'm open for discussion more and thank you for bringing back the data that was requested. And also, Tom Okay. Yes, I'll go.

055Um, so Tom, uh, I do think that, uh, uh, incentivizing the type of development that we need in the town, which is obviously affordable, um, is is one of the top needs in the town is something that we should be doing. Um, so, uh, just in the beginning of your presentation when you spoke and you spoke of the town attorneys, uh, reviewing any changes, would the planning department please be included in that list? Yep. They are. Yep. Okay. Um, and you also mentioned that, you know, the zoning code amendments and the reduction in GFA uh is is what we're dealing with is not just giant houses and occupied, but what also spurred the changes besides what David mentioned and of course sustainability issues across the board was the use of uh the the proliferation of

056short-term rental uh in in our town and the now investment companies that are coming into town to telling people how to maximize their ADU uh I'm sorry, not ADU, their short-term rental um profits. So, uh those those that that those were the reasons uh why we really want to look at that. And uh I think I've mentioned before in my liaison report. I'm going to bring back a presentation in the near future on short-term rentals and the impacts in to our community and addressing some of them. Um I am good with all the consensus things. I um you know I like a a a slower approach on the property size but I'm open um what uh and even uh GFA uh incentivizing GFA um exclusion for um for ADUs. the what I need is to

057feel like we're setting up some within the code some kind of guard rails which is what we usually do to protect from the abuse of what's in and to make sure the right people are building because there it is quite expensive to to add um an ADU either detached or attached with today's cost of building and it seems to be only going up. So I I my concern overall is to how do we do it to make sure that it's going to the right people, it's enforcable, and there is a removal clause if if people remove it. Um I I was I'll just throw out some stuff. the the I think the issue with the 600 square foot garage is a good example because suppose now I have a 600 square foot garage which I'm

058entitled to that doesn't count towards my GFA and I want to make that 600 foot garage an ADU so why would we now count it in we're not incentivizing if we now count that space in GFA but maybe there's an equitable number that doesn't have as large impact impact or the impact is an interesting word but for me is not cannot we make sure that it's going to to the people we want it to go to and the use is intended for the use that we want it to happen on those are the two key points uh and from my experience you know being on the zoning board and and and looking at this it's not to say that people try to get around the zoning but you do have people that will look to

059how they can maximize their profit potential by using something in a way that it's not intended for. And now we're losing out on even more affordability. So that's that's my concern on that. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm generally supportive of this, Tom. I appreciate your work. Uh I wholeheartedly agree that this is one of the biggest issues we face and we need to be creative and look for all all types of solutions. Um the consensus topics, um I I agree with all of those. I think we all are on board. uh for the minimum lot area requirement. Um I think there's a lot of properties that are just under 20,000 square feet and it it seems to be a strange line to draw and we're excluding a lot of people. I would probably favor a slower

060approach of 1500 square feet or 15,000 rather. Um but I'm I'm open-minded about that and I guess I'll just jump right to the last which is the GFA. I I'm skeptical of not counting ADUs towards GFA because as as Dave points out, what would happen if the ADU use ceases? Um I think it creates problems and I think that um we'd have to find some way to allow people to to keep that space of storage or whatever. But then it sort of is fighting against the principles that led us to, you know, as a board to reduce GFA generally. And I think that um but I if so I I I say I couple those two things together because if we didn't exempt things from GFA then I'd be more open to to go in

061as low as 10,000 ft to have an ADU because the livable space would be the same whether it was a single family or two. I think the wise approach here would be 15,000 square feet. And the other thing I want to say is we haven't had as much buy into ADUs as I would like. Um, but as you point out, there's a cap in each hamlet. And so I do think if we were to choose whether ADUs are generally on larger properties or smaller, we would want them to be on larger. And so perhaps going to 15,000 opens the valve and we then cap out and, you know, in that case, I don't think we would need to go lower than that. Uh, that said, I'm I'm very open-minded about this and I think that

062if we don't have the influx of, you know, applications that we should look at, you know, more incentives. Uh I think that is the right approach incentiviz people to do um what is needed which is affordable housing. Number of vehicles I really don't have a problem with it and I think actually if you read the way that this is written it could be argued that we would be encouraging off-site parking if we limited the number of vehicles because I think that it's not hard to imagine a single family home along with an ADU having more than four cars. All this says I believe is that they can't be on that lot. Well, I'm not sure we want it to be someplace that's not on that lot. and and I understand that there's a a quality

063of life and a visual impact to somebody's car, but you know, I think that in the interest of balance and encouraging affordable housing, that's an an exception I would make. You know, Kate, I think, brought up a very good point about short-term rentals and the concern about people, you know, monetizing these, and we certainly don't want that. But I Tom, I guess, correct me if I'm wrong. Is there you can't rent the main house and an ADU, right? Corre correct. you can only as long as that's ironclad then you know the that I I'm not as worried about it. I agree with Kate generally though that that's something we have to look at really really carefully um across the board and and especially when it comes to ADUs if you have an ADU I think

064that you know needs to be affordable um or lived in by the owner um just you know ironclad. Uh, and then I also the I think the garage exemption. My understanding is that we did include for, you know, a detached ADUs that they wouldn't be included in GFA because they're already limited. I think that the reason they were limited to 600 ft detached and 1,200 feet as part of the house is because it wouldn't create that conflict. You automatically if you, you know, cease the ADU, you're grandfathered in to have it as a garage. And so there's you're not grandfathered. You could you could turn it into an accessory. That's what I mean. Yeah. Structure. not grandfathered. It's cons code compliant in either case. You're you're right, D. Yeah, I was referring to the attached

065garages when we exempted the first 600 square foot and then I'm thinking, you know, realistically in terms of someone's ability to um construct in that space. So if it's 600 square foot, if it's an ADU and it's a garage that that you have or you know that that's the issue too with what's existing and what can be added, right? So if you're already at max GFA with your house, I'm not sure I'm okay with adding more more attached space outside of the existing structure. Um, so there's some nuances, but my my thought was if you were going to now make that an ADU, that's to take away a garage your garage. Make it an ADU. Maybe you don't have enough room on your property for you to feel comfortable with the 600 ft attached structure.

066Then I think we if we had a mechanism to be able to keep that 600 square foot um for only in the instance of an ADU. Yeah, thank thanks for the clarification. I wholeheartedly agree with that. I was thinking detached. Um, as as you know, I I sort of advocated for that space to be flexible to begin with and and and certainly if we allow it for a garage, we should allow it for an ADU. I think up to 600 ft. So, yeah, that you're absolutely right. I I wholeheartedly agree. I think it's probably the most affordable way to to convert space rather than either that or in the basement. And, you know, as as as Kathy says, you know, our our budget and what we do shows our values. And if we're really trying

067to encourage affordable housing, I think we should say, well, storage space for your family is important and so is affordable housing. And so it's a I think it it's a very good balance. Thank you for clarifying and correcting me. So I I agree with the topics of consensus from our last meeting. U as far as ch changing the minimum lot area requirement, I'm I agree with my colleagues. I think 15,000 square feet makes more sense. you know, uh, as far as the minimum, the maximum number of vehicles on a property, Jake, I had asked, um, I was by understanding that on rental properties, you couldn't, you couldn't have more than four unrelated people, and I thought that there was a uh, you couldn't have more than four cars. Is that I'm trying to figure that

068out right now. Is it in the rental registry code? Is it in the rental registry code? Cuz I remember working on it. Yeah, I believe it's in the rental registry code. See if there is. Okay. So, we need to find where that is because if it may, you know, in the one of the uh points in the presentation that there was no limit on short-term rental, but I there may be, you know, it may be the same whether you rent year round or or short short term that you're only allowed four cars. Um, but it's I I think there should be a sliding scale. I think we talked about that last time. The smaller lots, maybe you don't go to six at 15,000 square feet. Uh because that's a, as David did the math, it's

069a lot of uh square footage for for driveway. Um I do have concerns about exempting from GFA zoning. I remember um a few years back when code enforcement had to inspect every artist studio every year to make sure artist studios weren't converted to um apartments and so there's concern there. So I you know I I I think an instead of moving forward with u that exemption. I know that um we had been talking about and we had hired Whiteman Austerman and Hannah to get a ruling from the IRS regarding our community housing fund. We talked about doing a loan program for ADU construction. I think it was up to $100,000 the last time we discussed it to help offset construction costs. And um it was a 3 to2 vote that we hold off until we

070get the IRS's ruling. Um from Jake checked it out for me. Uh the uh the letter went to the IRS last week. We're going to be getting acknowledgement in the next 30 days and then it's going to take them 6 to9 months to come back with a ruling. Um, you know, I guess the attorney probably knows more than I do, but given the state of our federal government, I wouldn't want to hang my hat on that we're going to get a ruling in six to nine months. So, I am willing to revisit and if the town attorney's office can draft um a document that needs to be notorized by the homeowner and acknowledging that this ruling hasn't come forth and that, you know, because we don't we knew when we did the water quality when

071we um grants that it it came the Suffach County Controller changed the rule the law and it became it counted as income. I would hate to see our homeowners, you know, have a $100,000 construction loan count as income. But if they go in eyes wide open and notoriize the document that maybe there are, you know, cases in town where people would be comfortable taking that loan, um I'm willing to revisit that and I would like that to be the way to increase um the ability to build more affordable housing. This the CDLI program is incomerestricted. our program is not. So, I think it would be um a way to encourage ADU uh construction and development. So, that's kind of where I stand. Good. Thank you everyone. Um yeah I just just one point to revisit

072and just kind of I I didn't mention the committee's position on this but you know with regards to enforcement it it is a challenging one and and even with our existing ADUs you know people can build one on a 30,000 foot lot and how do we ensure that 2 three years from now it's still being used as an ADU I mean so the enforcement issue is going to be there irrespective the committee's position on this is is very straightforward and and I agree with it that look if you build something and it's not required as an ADU you you have to take it down these are about providing housing and that that's really what this is. So, you know, committee is strong on that and I I I back them on this. It's like look,

073the whole purpose of this is to deliver affordable housing and people who look to build these to kind of do something else. No, I think the town should pursue that irrespective of what are the changes we make. If there ADUs out there currently that are being misused, then we need to address that through code enforcement or or the h office of housing or even the building inspector. Yeah. because that's been discussed and I and I completely agree with you on that. You know, and I just got the one last comment what uh what Ian said is um there is a back stop as you mentioned. Yes. You know, and which was extended and enforcement was discussed and met years ago. I was on the board then. I think it's a good discussion. We will we

074if if we get to to a point where that backs stop the number the maximum amount of ADUs in a hamlet is met and we have to discuss do we extend it at that point that's a good discussion. It shows that the board is moving things in the right way and honestly I would look forward to having that discussion if we could ever even get there. Yeah. And just to give you guys uh and the public some clarification on where we're at with that. You know in Springs where we could have 40, we currently have 14. East Hampton we have 20 of the 40 and against it we have two of the 40. Montoque we have seven of the 40 and Wayne Scott we have zero. So it just emphasizes that you know there's a

075few factors at play. You tie that back to some of the earlier tables where you're looking at lot size in in you know Monttoque and Springs you know small lot sizes mean that ADUs have been restrictive there. Um you know East Hampton where you see larger lots um typically seeing more ADUs as well. Um in terms of the applications we've had um you know primary interest has been in the Springs and East Hampton areas um I would say those account for about 70% of what we've seen in uh CD plus1 applications that came in. Um uh and then the the majority sorry the the minority being there then after that amigance in Montalk um and minimal in Wayne Scott and Sag Harbor um but I would also say that of the applications we saw um

07640% of the applications we saw were under 20,000 square ft. So it's it's definitely there's a demand there um from home owners to do this. And the last point on that as well I'd say that the ADUs have two benefits. One is is the provision of affordable housing. The other is for people to stay in place and create a second source of income. And so for our smaller lots where the median household income is typically lower, this is allowing those families to stay in our community. Um you know and and become the volunteers that we need um like lifeguards to to make the term work. So uh that's just my two cents on that. Yeah. I just want to throw out another idea Tom just as you know off the top of my head is

077to look at the percent you know the of those 40 how many could be at 10,000 how many could be at 15 as a way to we we have that yep yeah that's on I can show you that okay so ne next steps draft code draft and then correct you can review it send it to for comments as you on your timetables correct yeah okay planning board comments well first I think department it comes to us draft drafted his code, correct? For a work session. Yeah, Jake, you did you looked into the code and what did you find? The way I read the code is at any point a home owner is not occupying the residence, no more than four cars are allowed. Right. That's what I thought. What And what section of the code

078is that in? Wow. Good. Say that again, David. 641 1165G5-11-64G under us is prohibited in single family residence. Yeah. And it's qualified by 2551162D, which says when the homeowner is not at the house, right? So David has got six drivers, he can have six cars. But if he rents his house out for the month of July, he can only have four cars parked there. I still I still drive my 1998 Mazda right now. I mean, come on. Still going. Okay. Still going, man. All right, Tom, you just let me know when you think that um Yep. the attorney's office will have that drafted and and also I I didn't have the latest version of the PowerPoint. If you could send the one that Yes, sir. I sent two through. One was a handout and one

079was a presentation. Uh you guys had a print out of the presentation instead of the handout but I will send it to you as well. Beautiful. Thank you. And maybe we should print that post that as well. Yeah. Yeah, that was okay. So now special event late fees discussion. Uh yesterday I sent around a memo. You know, I you know, we realized that on average I actually last year we issued over 500 permits. And you know, at many times these permit applications come in past the deadline. So, um, if they can't be brought to a meeting, it just brings on a whole rash of other kind of issues, particularly during the summer when you're trying to track down the chief of police, the chief fire marshal, you know, if marine patrol is involved. It's just

080town board members. Um, so we changed the fee structure. Um, it's spelled out on the on the memo, but we've had it now that we've we've done that. Um, we've had some folks some reaction like we had the Clearwater Beach Property Owners Association submitted an application on June 2nd for a July 12th event and um it's an annual event. So, we've reviewed this before. All the parking is self-contained. And yet, according to our schedule, we were to find them $2,000 for a late fee. and um to you know that just seemed unreasonable and I know that they wrote back and said you know we can appreciate it. We'll pay $500 towards the late fee but you know $2,000 is a tremendous amount of money. Uh, and then we had another resident that had a put

081in an application for, you know, 100 people. Only 60 people turned up, but residential, it would have been a free permit, but with the late fee, because she submitted it the week of because she was traveling and couldn't get it notorized. And then, um, because it was in with such a short period of time, her party for 60 people, her permit cost her $450. So, I'm I'm hoping that we can find, you know, maybe the the 2024 schedule may have been too generous and but I think the new one is just a bit ownorous and um needs to be rethought a little bit. We did look up what Southampton does. They charge they have a formula by how far out you or how close into the uh event you submit your application. But, you know,

082I can't imagine with the volume of applications, particularly in the summer, asking town staff to do that I think would be too much. But I there's got to be uh a reasonable medium here. I don't know. You've heard other things, other anecdotal stories from folks that those are the only two I've heard. I did um ask uh the special events team to kind of pull together what we had we've had this year in terms of late applications versus the total for last year. here. So, I just wanted to break those out by category. So, for residential this year, we've had 10 uh late applications. Year to date, total last year was 47 late applications. That's um in in fees generated, that's been 2,400 this year versus the total for last year of 9,350. For public

083applications, we've had one late application this year, um which generated $200 versus four late applications last year that generated $910. Commercial is where this is most interesting and this is the one perhaps I would if any I'm going to push back and say we don't change it's commercial. So commercial year to date we've had 35 late applications generating 19,000 in late fees. This is compared to last year we had 42 late applications total year generating $13,600. Uh for catered events we've had one late application this year that's generated $200 versus 12 total last year that gened $1,300. um seasonal uh we had one last year was $100. We've had zero this year and and elsewhere zero. So we haven't had a huge number of late applications. So I think in that sense the changes have

084been affected. People like oh I want to get this in but I obviously there's been one or two cases the clear water I think being the most concerning which is like look that's something that's a repeat application perhaps if it's kind of that straightforward I think. Yes, I think there's there's definitely kind of scope in some of the commercial ones. I think like look, you guys are operating as a business. You you need to be professional about and get on time just like we do. I I think the other piece to call back about this is, you know, when we kind of went through the use of our legislative secretary's time in in processing these, I think it was 27 and a half of their 34 hours a week or on special events. And so,

085you know, part of the scope of this is that, you know, if we're to, you know, free up our legislator is we want to have, you know, an income that kind of meets the needs of what that department generates. Um, and and, you know, moving towards this structure is something I hope would be there for that. Um, but yeah, I I agree there's listen, it's it was a change. if we need to massage a little bit for certain things. I'm totally because I think also and you know in the newsletter we did do a mention about residential permits. I think some folks don't even realize that the code requires that they're having a graduation party for more than 50 people that they have to get a special event permit and sometimes when they do finally

086realize that it's a week or so before the party. So if this is something that you want to could take back to the committee and um and address and come back with a recommendation and you know if you want to carve out commercial and and have different late fees for different types of applications that makes a lot of sense too. Okay. Yeah. I I do think they need to be it needs to be tweaked. I think that uh I agree with the commercial um remaining what it is. We are only on July 1st, so we don't have a full picture of of what we are at compared to last numbers. Last year's numbers, we have quite a long ways to go. But I think for the residential uh which is a the the there's an

087application uh everything's free on the residential uh permit. It's ownorous to hit them with a late charge because they're not they're homeowners. They're not professionals. Yeah. I mean, I I I appreciate this problem, and it does seem like 2,000 for Clear Water is excessive. What about if we just I mean, the point here is we want people to submit on time so that we can process the work organized and not burden ourselves, but we don't want to be ownorous in terms of the the fines. What if we just on a case-by case basis and one that really didn't cause any problems but was technically late we could wave by resolution so that we cuz if we just take away the teeth of this like you're right I don't want to you know charge homeowners a

088ton but if people feel like they can always submit it late and there's no consequences or it's very easy to do that are we going to correct the problem and that's a tricky balance to strike so I'm one I'm not for removing it but I think the amount is to is excessive but the fee has to be commensurate with the trouble it causes. Right. Right. So, it's it's a it's a matter of somebody hands something in on a Thursday for a Saturday night clam bake. The committee's already met and now you're trying to track down, like I said, the chief of police, the fire marshal, the and if they have comments on the parking plan, then it even makes it longer. Now, everybody's rushing to You're not looking at it once, you're looking at it

089two or three times. And I think with the Clear Water one, the reason it hit that category is it was a very large size event. It's 250 people and with that we have to get everybody's eyes on it because the public safety issue is is really there and that's time and money unfortunately. Um, so you know, I I would to Ian's point, yeah, I I'm I would lean ideally more towards if we think it's egregious, we have a right as a board to adjust it. Um, but keep the teeth. Um, but then we have to collect it and refund it. So, we're actually causing people more. We're spending more staff time on doing things. Yeah, I think it's a balanced step. We we can come back. I also just at might as well take this

090opportunity since we're talking about the special events team to uh talk about the uh insane amount of work that uh our legislative secretaries and part-time help Miriam uh put into answering questions whether it's late or not. The phone never stops ringing. The emails never stop coming in and I just want to thank them for being able to h handle all this stuff to begin with. Yes. But there's also, you know, folks that do need to fill out a special event permit. It's pretty well spelled out on the website. If you go to um how do I as one of the main tabs and you click go down to special events, we basically spelled it all out there. So, it should be, you know, folks took the time to take a look at the website and

091it explains what type of application you need to use, what needs to be included. It's very straightforward. I would say the one I have on my leazison report but I'll mention now because it's to the point but like the one we continue to see issues with is parking and just some kind of general guidance on that is you know there is online an example of what we'd like to see in terms of a parking plan. Um but you know beyond that just kind of one good rule is you can only park the cars on one side of the road and even then we have to get sign off from PD. So, as you're submitting your parking plan, please ensure it's only on one side of the road because if it's not, it's immediately going to

092come back to you and it's clear, it's mapped out clearly, or else again that that um that delays you getting your permit. Um uh that because it we meet weekly, but we do a tremendous amount of work in between in email as well, but we have to see a proper plan. I just have a final comment. So I want to be very careful of the subjectiveness of u of uh of not doing it through a resolution to what what Ian was mentioning there then too um it should be straight across the board. So, bring that back to the special events committee knowing that we are at a resolution. What's that? Just saying if we accepted the $500 for Clear Water Beach and it should have been 2,000 that needs a resolution Thursday night. And then

093and then there's a PO involved as well. Yeah. Sorry. It's all right. It's July 1st. Yeah. July 4th weekend. I know you uh special events has a meeting tomorrow. I wouldn't mind even if you if if special events committee got to our our offices where we look at the recommendation. I wouldn't mind trying to do something either for Thursday or for next Tuesday. I think that's the timing we're at in the season right now to get it back to the discussion. And I appreciate to the supervisor bringing it back because part about what we do here is is that relief fell what we're doing. We saw this touched a little bit the wrong way and we're trying to uh trying to fix it on the fly, but the flying has to go fast. So that's

094Thank you. All right. So if there's no other comments, we are done with our topics for today and we're up to liaison reports. Tom. Okay. Thank you, Madam Supervisor. Um Amigan Citizens Advisory Committee reminded the meeting is July 14th. Assembly member Tommy Don Shioone will be there. Um also we will today we have the resolution on the lighting bond. I will be introducing um you know residents did reach out to me uh just raising concerns that I've also raised in public safety regarding kind of the Friday Saturday night crowds and you know um ride share vehicles on Main Street during the evenings. It's kind of it's impacting uh quality of life there. It um this week we've been reviewing the I've been reviewing with the uh head of IT the budget um for 2026. Um,

095you know, some of the key pieces that I'm going to be setting up to my colleagues to review are some of the investments in software programs, uh, security programs and people that we're looking to kind of, um, I put forward for 2026. Human services, Amarie, if we could pull this one up. So, um, pleased to announce that, uh, we have completed the, uh, painting of the and repair of the exterior of the, uh, senior center on Springs Fireplace Road. Um, I wanted to give huge thanks to the buildings and maintenance department. We go to the next slide as well. The building maintenance department did a huge amount of woodwork and help get supplies as well. But, um, something I'm going to be looking to do for a few of my different departments over the course

096of the years to do a kind of a profile just so you get to know who's working for your town, who's doing the work, and and um, Isaac Lopez is is a wonderful person who works in our human service department. He painted the entire exterior of this building. Um, Isaac's been with the town for numerous years. is he's also a volunteer ambulance member, a volunteer firefighter. Uh, and fortunate for some, unfortunate others, a Yankees fan. Um, but he he did a great job. I'm just going to go through some of the photos if we can. If we can move on to the next slide. Um, just kind of showing the work he did. So, you can see, you know, the light wood is where we replaced the old sighting. Um, we've painted this gray color.

097Um, it's come out beautifully there. This is the back of the building. Scroll down again if we could. Uh, again, just different view of the back. I mean there was for those of you who visited the site previously it was in pretty poor repair so this is a huge improvement keep going Ammer if we would and then the other thing he was able to do is you know we put in some new ADA parking spaces there um just to ensure adequate access um and those were done by Isaac as well. So just wanted to thank him for that incredible work and to the buildings and maintenance team. And then lastly um just cuz I didn't get to it because it was on a Wednesday after our last meeting um our senior center managed to do

098a great tour to the Amagancet Life Saving Station. Um it's such a beautiful facility. I encourage everybody to get down there and I thank my colleague David for all the hard work and he and his team have done in getting that to where it is. Um so that's everything for senior center. Um fire marshall um I've been working with the fire marshall's office and it to develop um some new inputs for commercial operators to update the list of hazardous materials they're keeping on site, safety sheets and other equipment. Um I will follow up with that with my colleagues in a further meeting but it's something we have them on working on based on feedback we've received from you as well. Um trustees uh we did just want to call out we received a public note

099um supporting uh the town purchase of Cove Hollow from the town trustees. Um so just wanted to mention that sanitation. Um next presentation if we could. So sanitation um as with it we've been reviewing the budget for 2026. Um, I'm also happy to announce that um, after 20 odd years, we have replaced the artwork at the MTOK Recycling Center. Um, second, third grade kids all the way through to seventh grade kids as well. There's 10 new panels up there representing what they see kind of as the heart of Mtok right there. They're standing next to Monttoque School when they know that one well. Um, but there's some lovely, lovely artwork up there by them. So, I just want to thank Mr. Odum, Mr. Salman and Miss Newbury for all the hard work they put in

100getting that done. So, thank you to them. Um, it is a treat when you go in there and see. It's lovely. It's It's really really It makes it It's just that kind of mont vibe. It's It's great. Um, Fort Hill Cemetery, we have a meeting next week to discuss 2026 budget. Uh, East End Fire Commissioners, the next meeting is now scheduled for September 30th. That will be in Bridge Hampton. Um, public safety, um, we have a meeting on Wednesday. Um, I was on scene for that recent incident um that took place in Montalk over the weekend with the arts fair. Um, I I just want to say to everybody with what we've seen this summer, please don't get into a car if you're under the influence. It's only has bad outcomes. Don't get in as

101a passenger. Don't get in as a driver. Um, it's it's not worth it. It's simply not worth it for anybody. Um then lastly on wildlife management committee uh we had a walk through of the Graciioho Grassy Hollow Preserve by Andy Gates. It was very interesting to see there. So for those of you who don't know that preserve was to created to kind of examine what the impact of deer is on undergrowth within uh the town's forest. It's about a 10,000 foot preserve. Um it's amazing to see the species that are able to grow there without that impact on them. Sassifrass, winter greens, numerous other pieces. Um you know it's something that we kind of will look to take on board as a wildlife committee as we kind of look you know what are next steps

102for us to increase the biodiversity of our woodlands. Um and then sorry one last thing we did meet last week with the emergency preparedness committee. We are moving forward with uh doing a tabletop exercise which will be examining um what the impact of a category 1 uh hurac would be were it to hit on the suffk Nassau County border. We're going to be doing that uh in conjunction with Suffach County Fire and Rescue Emergency Services. Um anyone who wishes to learn more about that, feel free to reach out to my office and I will walk you through it as I can. That's it. Thank you. Thank you, David. Well, I Yes. Thank you, Madam Supervisor. And I just got text photos. Um I have everything ready. Uh yes, I got one more. Let me get

103this one first because I literally just came to my my thing. All right. Um update on the multi-user field at the Fred Theo Recreational Facility. They were they're just completing the paving just right now and that's my smile, you know. So that facility is going to be ready for the public very very shortly. So I thank everyone that's working on that. Uh next I I'll pass these to the town town board. Uh these are just some locations. Uh this is a a program uh that the town board did two years ago. It actually mimics something that uh that uh uh uh Chief Maguire did in the in the village. Uh the town of East Hampton reminds drivers of the New York State's moveover law. Uh, as the summer season begins, heavier traffic uh to East

104Hampton, town officials are reminding drivers to follow the New York State's moveover law to help protect the people who keep our roads and communities safe. Temporary roadside signs will be placed throughout the town to remind motorists of this important safety law, which requires drivers to slow down and safely move safely move over for law enforcement, emergency responders, tow operators, highway crews, and utility workers stopped along roadways. When approaching any stopped emergency or hazard vehicle displaying red, blue, green lights, drivers must reduce speed and proceed with caution. On multi-lane roads, drivers must move out of the lane next to the stopped vehicle if safe to do so. This includes yielding to volunteers using blue or green courtesy lights when responding to an emergency. Red and blue lights indicate law enforcement and official emergency vehicles. Blue lights

105are used for volunteer firefighters. Green lights are used for used by volunteer ambulance and East Hampton Town Volunteer Ocean Rescue members. These courtesy lights request the rightway so volunteers can reach emergencies quickly and safely. Drivers should stay alert, check mirrors often, and yield when they see flashing red, blue, or green lights. When you see these lights, move over and move right. The town thanks everyone for driving responsibly and keeping uh uh keeping helping keep our roads safe for first responders and all those who saved our community, serve our community. We did this about two years ago. We're going to put up signs both in English and Spanish as you see on the screen on there. Also, uh I do h I have been discussing with town PD also about Uber lights and lift lights or

106which are uh are steady lights in front windshields. Uh we're trying to find out how that works into VTL, a lot of the confusion, but solely pretty much if you see a red uh if you see a flashing light, move over. There are individuals that are trying to get to a a scene of an emergency then too. Just going to come very quickly. Just one thing is very few EMs have green lights. Pretty much everyone in the town now operates on blue light system. Got it. So, thank you very much. Exactly. We'll put those out for a short period of time at some of our locations that the the board supports. Um, next on here, did I lose it? I did lose it. Okay. Thank you. Uh, I want to thank uh the director of

107marine resources from the DEC uh Martin Gary. him and his staff came out as a part of a three portion meeting um for uh the MRACH which is the marine resources advisory committee. They had a meeting in Montalk last Thursday evening. It was well attended and this is discussion about the stripe bass allocation tag program on there and potential changes that they had to that it's a long time coming in my humble opinion. But I want to thank director uh Gary for uh his responsiveness to questions of that community uh on that. Once it goes back to Emrach for final discussions, there will be a public portion uh sorry public comic portion. I'll let everyone know. But again, what this is talking about is is how to legally transfer stripe bass tags within the the

108state's aotment and quota of stripe uh stripe bass tags that we get every year. Then too, um there's questions, there's skepticism of course uh but again there was direction and movement on that. Uh so I thank them and any more information you can please contact uh the director uh sorry the marine resources director Martin Gary or his staff members um at MRAC. Um last week I participated in a meeting uh with the Army Corps of Engineers uh along with the state and uh county officials and other officials from Long Island to talk about the the project partnership agreement also known as the PPA for the the FIP projects on Long Island. We'll have more information on that upcoming also then too. But that is about how the uh the PPA is manifested over the next

10930 years for the municipalities are that are involved which includes the town of East Hampton and specifically the downtown malk work project that we had at the playhouse. We uh instituted a uh a pilot program and the pilot program was uh in consideration for pickle ball in which we went to a weekend uh residents only play on weekends through the month of June. uh the town board has decided uh to move forward on that for also extended that pilot program to the month of July to see how that affects uh the users and play out there then too. So please be aware that pickle ball on the weekends for the month of July will be for only residents only. Um Tom, you brought up ride share. So, as you know, I have a commercial property

110in Amigans. And on Friday evening, I'm not a stranger to Amiganza. Uh Friday evening, I actually was in there and actually was not this past Friday, it was the Friday before, uh which was the holiday weekend. It's almost the same as here. And it was it was busy. Okay. Uh I walked around with Officer Borie that day. Uh, and we just looked at ride shares dropping people off everywhere in the place of least resistance when you try to tell them to go into the parking lot. Yeah, right. They just go everywhere. I then end up having another follow-up meeting with Lieutenant Alver. I talked to the chief and Lieutenant Alvera that evening and I met with him in in uh about ride share options we might have for temporary drop off locations or zones on

111there. I've gotten some information to them. Uh, so I'm actively also working on that. Maybe we can discuss that a little bit a little bit more. So that is something that very cognizant of in that hamlet specifically but I also know it affects M talk specifically around surf lodge and others then too. One thing that I've kind of examined on my side with that is there is the ability in some municipalities to geoence areas would actually stop bubers from being able to pick up people in certain areas and that's something that we potentially have the ability to do but we can explore. Correct. That might be for 20 26 but can we do maybe in 25 as a pilot to see what works also? Yes. Uh want to let everyone know also that the Montalk

112Chamber of Commerce fireworks are this uh this Friday, July 4th and also Devon Club is actually for uh July 5th which is Saturday then too in downtown Malk talk. We're going to be bringing out some of our light stansions also which will be new this year to place at some of the crosswalks uh in coordination uh with PD. Also, I'm going to let the town board also know that we were uh recently awarded uh a grant and of a a plaque from the Pomeroy Foundation for a national historically historical registered plaque that we applied for. Thank you to the town board for the Montalk Tennis Auditorium, also known as the Montalk Playhouse, but in 1988 the application went as the Monto tennis auditorium. Uh so I want to thank the Pomeroy Foundation for that and

113we'll install that inside uh inside the uh the location then uh at the playhouse or the auditorium. That also leads me up that the tennis uh the playhouse is steadily moving forward on the completion of that project then too. Next I want to uh uh alert the town and many that I went to the US Coast Guard change of command last week or the week before. Uh this was uh the captain Alyssa uh Gary was the commander of the US Coastg Guard sector Long Island Sound was there presiding. Uh it's been nice to get to know Captain Garity. She's been to multiple uh change commands for Coastg Guard station MTalk. Specifically, I want to thank Master Chief Nathaniel Kyle Okonnell US Coast Guard. He was relieved and he was relieved by Senior Chief Colin Snowell

114uh US Coast Guard Command. Uh, I want to thank Kyle for all that he he's done in the in the couple years that he was here. Him and his family acclimated to East Hampton really well. He coached softball to a championship team actually with his his daughter. Uh, and then I want to thank uh thank him and his wife. They also put on um fundraising events in which they did uh at the the cruise quarters in Montto Halloween shows. It was it was great. Uh he's been great. Uh I met Colin, Senior Chief Snowell also. Uh he's a man of great ability and we should all be so blessed to have leadership like this and not just that but also the US Coast Guard, our Coastg Guard station Malk. So I want to let the

115board know about that. Um, I want to also let everyone know that uh on uh we're doing a dedication cere uh the town of Eastampton is to dedicate uh the the Anthony uh Drexel Duke Memorial Multi-user Path Tony Duke at the Boys and Girls Harbor Park. This dedication ceremony and ribbon cutting will be for the Tony Duke Memorial Multi-user Path. It will be Monday, July 7th, 2025 at 1 pm. Uh there will be members of the Duke family, the town board members, and others there. The town of East Hampton in coordination with the Duke family will be holding a dedication ceremony to celebrate the opening of the Anthony Drexel Duke memorial multi-user path of Boys and Girls Harbor. This project arh honors the legacy of Anthony Tony Duke senior, a World War II Navy veteran

116and founder Boy Harbor uh who devoted his life uh to providing educational and recreational opportunities for generations of young pe people including myself. Tony Duke established Boys Harbor in 1937 with a vision of giving children from New York City safe spaces to learn and grow. His leadership and phil philanthropy, excuse me, that came out great, have impacted tens of thousands of lives and the new path will ensure that his spirit of community and access to nature continues for years to come. The ceremony will include brief remarks by others in a ribbon cutting ceremony. Then two will take place rain or shine with the cover pavilion available if needed. Uh I remember going to uh uh to not camp there, but they would take us from uh um the middle school where we do trust falls

117and stuff. Uh, and I think it's a wonderful dedication uh, of the path to his legacy in our community. I know he still has a lot of people that he touches in the community. So, I hope that gets out there to all. I want to thank the town board for this dedication. I think it's extremely uh, appropriate. Um, lastly, um, two things about Little League. I believe there are games at 6 p.m. on Thursday. Unfortunately, we have a town board meeting for the U10 baseball all-star teams that were playing. Uh I went there last week with my daughter who asked to go uh where they had I think it was you uh U12 boys and girls softball and baseball going on there too and it was great and wonderful to see. Now what I do

118have to say is that there's a lot of excitement. It's not hard to believe. I'm an excitable guy and I'm an excitable dad and I like going to my kids games and I cheer but I cheer well and I cheer positively. That doesn't happen all the time. As you'll see the signs there, there are no scholarships being given out. Uh there was one family member that got a little over excited this past week and he really touched off uh one of the umpires to a point where he was the family members asked to be removed and unfortunately what happens is that the children get to see this and also what happens is that the umpire gets upset. I do have to say and I'm going to call him out by name. Brian Stuckert, who is

119the umpire, has been umpiring there for years, is a wonderful man of precision to the craft of umpiring. Uh, he works really hard at it. Then two, he takes it very seriously and straight across the board. There is no need to act up at a kids game. Brian shows kids how to act by being a steward of the game then, too. And I think as parents and visitors and everyone that's there, we owe Brian uh an apology for what happened, but also we owe him a salute for how he produces a great fair and balanced scheme then too. And I hope he understands this. I know I sent him a message how I feel then too. But I want to make sure that the general public knows what he does for East Hampton Little League

120over the years is something I hope he continues to do. So Brian, that one's for you. Thank you. Thank you, David Kate. Yes. And um David, I think the the children are owed an apology as well uh for having to witness that behavior. Um I just also want to go back to your leazison report announcing the fireworks in Montto. We did pass a new code about walking on the dunes. Yes. I just wanted to emphasize that uh folks are not permitted to walk on the dunes except for in the designated pathways. Uh and this is to preserve our beach grass from being trampled. once it's trampled, it's over. And also our very important dune. So, I just wanted to thank you to acknowledge that. Um, the New York State grant uh resiliency and sustainability uh

121meeting for Montalk was held at the Montalk Library yesterday. In attendance were Leo Daunt, Andy Harris, Jen Akona, and congratulations to Jen. as I understand she is the new president of the Muk Playhouse Association. Allison Bronco from the Nature Conservancy. East Hampton Town staff included Sam Klene, Jean Corrosa, and Tina Lagaren and myself. We reviewed uh they reviewed I I I don't score as a town board member. Uh they reviewed and gave scores to the consultant groups that replied. It was a long meeting but quite productive. This is a great group of people and I look forward to getting this uh uh study of resiliency post f post disaster on how we can get our businesses and homes up and running once the area is stabilized. We have to think of how do we rebuild

122and this is what this grant is for. Um it's $600,000 and uh we've got really uh interesting uh proposals. uh the Picconic Estuary local government management committee which I sit on um uh gave met and we had an update on all things PCONIC estuary. Um a partnership you know and there there also is the um negative impacts of federal funding going away uh for all groups in including groups like this that do um actionable items. They don't just, you know, they they do studies, but they also uh uh give give uh money for actionable items to all of the communities in the PCI estuary area. And uh groups like this are vital and funding them is vital as well. The little litter action committee met and discussed East Hampton's cleanup day in coordination with the

123national cleanup day, which will happen on the 3rd Saturday in September and what that's going to look like in East Hampton. More to come on that. We are also working on several action items for the near future as follow-ups from the presentation to the town board. That continues. The sustainability committee met was an abbreviated meeting due to other commitments uh from by folks. Um we are working and moving forward on the recommendation to the board for tree protections, bamboo um legislation uh and and codes. I'm coordinating with Len Green, a member of the group, and also Re Li, um or or East End, I think it is. Um and to co-host a meeting with the community groups that are helping to educate homeowners to join the sustainable landscaping movement. It's it's growing. We um have

124the two two examples on town campus that happened through Change Hampton and other groups. That's the pollinator garden. And with that I met with student interns. We had gone to Kathy and I and Ian had attended their um their onboarding um meeting um at Long Lane. And I met the same interns uh led by Len to who volunteered and worked on the budding uh native meadows that are the most e recent additions to town hall campus. And like I said to the young ladies who are lifeguards uh and and spreading the word on water safety, it's really wonderful to see high school students become so familiar with how to do the work of gardening and how to make it sustainable and how to increase sustainability across the town. A message they can spread to their

125peer groups. So I'm just going to thank them again. I'm probably going to thank them all the time. Um Jason, I had to say so they were here yesterday. They were out there. Yeah. So I went out there and introduced some of them hadn't been on the onboarding, so I introduced myself again. And of course the mother and me, I'm making sure they're hydrated and they've got sunscreen on and they're going to be out here um every two weeks. Yeah. Working on the meadow. Oh, it's gorgeous out there right now. It really is great. And it's all sustainable and native. Um so anybody could do it on their property. um just just come out and check out the signs that have the QR codes. Uh and there's a lot of information there. Um part of

126the um part of the uh goal of the meeting with the community groups that are helping to educate homeowners is to develop a a more robust web page for the town on sustainable landscaping, native plants that exist and how to and gotos. Um so that's one of the things that we'll be doing. And just as an aside, uh going to a lot of the events that are happening across town uh in the summer to in support of the uh non-government groups, the the charitable organizations, the nonprofit organizations that work so diligently across our community uh from child care uh to uh sustainability to groups like Pride um and uh I try um that really do a lot of work for the people in our community um and their volunteers and they do such good work.

127I just want to also again give a shout out to them. Um Jason, I I have a a photo that I sent you earlier because we have uh compost bins are happening. Uh I don't know if you can pull it up. If not, I'll just read it. I sent it to your email address this morning. One moment, please. I'll look for the uh new photo. Yeah. And I'll just talk about it. Uh so uh it's we're welcoming folks to the summer 2025 East Hampton compost bin and rain barrel sale. Um this is where we can have healthier gardens, cleaner water, and safe environments. uh the town uh is able with partnering with the vendor uh on already existing contracts to be able to offer discounts on compost bins for your backyard and also rain barrels.

128So uh the town of Zampton is making it easier in in coordination with these groups to recycle food scraps and save water. So how do you get started? Check out the compost bins and rain barrels for sale at east hamptoncompost uh dot.com. Uh I'm sorry, east hamptoncompost.org. And uh we'll get a social media post uh out on that. And this was looking very small so no one can read it here. I'll I'll zoom in. Thanks. So uh there's significant discounts on backyard composting and all of the information on how to get started. Uh you'll purchase the bins online and then their pickup dates here uh at town hall. Um the uh deadline to order is Thursday, July 24th uh 2025. And the pickups will be on uh Saturday, July 26 between um 2 and and

1295. But if you need to make other arrangements here at town hall, you can just reach out to the group after you purchased your bin. uh one bid or two, one is super, but with two you can start adding scraps to the second bin while first one's finished uh composting. And I know we have composters uh on the town board sitting here who can uh attest to how great it is to get your food scraps out of the uh waist stream helps all of us, but also what beautiful uh composting product uh comes out of that helps your plants grow. Yeah. I mean, I I personally do this at home and I've been doing it for about four or five years now. I I would say probably half the waste I produce is food scraps

130of vegetables and it's amazing how much you can reduce what goes into landfill. Um, it's it's a very easy thing to do at home. Barrels work, but you don't have to have a barrel. You can do a home thing. You can set up with pallets. I mean, there's different ways to do it. It's really just about keeping those nutrients on your soil and working them through. So I I recommend to everybody and uh I just want to also uh finish with the ditch dune construction progress the comment period uh for the uh this it's a standard comment period. it it uh is alerted by a legal notice uh in the paper of record which uh happened here and uh that comment period closed and that's another step forward to getting the DEC permit and that's

131what I got. Beautiful. Thank you Kate Ian. Uh the property management committee met last month and I I think I mentioned this in a previous leis report. We are looking for a the path forward with a Dodge property. We adopted a management plan that I think they did a great job on and the consensus there was that they want to move forward on a number of fronts and I just wanted to let the board know and see if anybody has any objections or thoughts or or different opinions. Um we'd like to go with the house to get to there's been a structural analysis completed. We'd like to do engineering on that to actually you know do the next step which is renovation. And I know I'd expressed the balance between wanting to to do that

132but also identify um a l e so that we know that the whatever work is done is appropriate. The consensus was that the first floor should be ADA accessible and have an ADA bathroom um regardless of the user. And so I think that that I would recommend moving forward on the house itself. Um the other two structures, the barn and the the small house, um are a little bit little bit trickier because those are going to very much depend on who the ultimate ly is. In terms of the little house there in the um report from Bob Hefner, it was mentioned that this could have been uh Henry Mitchell House and it wasn't totally clear and so actually what came up in this meeting was perhaps we should just the report said if more is

133found this should be not noted or something like that. Well, I think as a board we might want to consider consulting an archaeologist to with care remove some of the the interior that's that's covered probably some history there. I don't think it'd be incredibly expensive. I would have to talk to planning to figure out how to to do that. But rather than wait until somebody starts to renovate and see what we find, maybe we intentionally look to investigate because that's that's got the the potential to be a very important house and I think what ultimately happens with it would be depend on what else we find there. Um, if there's general support, I would get more details on that in terms of cost and and procedure. Um, while we're redoing if if you know there's

134support to go and start to to engineer the the renovations of the house, uh, simultaneously, I think we could work on an RFP that would just say that the town and part of the thought there was that that the property management committee felt they would be it would show good faith in the town's behalf to say that we care about these properties. we're putting in the work which would encourage more people to um you know apply to submit a submit a proposal and I think that that's a good approach again because I think regardless of who the user is it's appropriate to have the first floor at least be ADA and the rest um restored sort of in in kind. Um, lastly, there was large support for a multi- uh purpose trail there. Um, yay.

135Yeah. Um, you know, this one I was personally a little bit well because that would involve parking. Uh, but you know, this is a very unique property that however it's used, um, you know, it's historic. I know we it's agriculture. There's a lot of different things going on there. But it may make sense to do a multi-purpose trail now in a way that would would not be in conflict with the future user because that would be towards the back of the woods and if we decided that's the appropriate thing there. There was some talk on the committee level of you know bringing that back into agriculture but it's it's wooded now. So that was a major that would be a major endeavor and I think if we like these multi-purpose trails this would be a

136good opportunity to sort of again move forward um but responsibly and make sure that it's consistent with the future use. So, uh, Dodge property, I'm full steam ahead on all those things. If there's support, you don't have to answer me now. You can give any comments or just let me know after how you feel. I So, I think having the 88 bathroom in the ramp, it's it's appropriate there for the engineering. The house is in pretty good shape. I would probably say if you're going to go to engineering, it'd be nice to see if they could also just put in a phase in there for upgrading of the electricity if we needed to move to heat pumps on there. Uh, so that might be a good part of the engineering that you don't have to

137do it now. There could be a construction for the bathroom and the ramp, but also a second phase if it was ever needed to if if it failed, we would have that in one engineering package. Yeah. No, I would be in favor of of sort of figuring out all of it together. So, the details there, I know Dave, you've done a lot of this type of stuff and and Scott and others have opinions, but yeah, I would I would want to include that for sure. Um, we also talked about the Osborne House. I think there's support on the board to um we we continue to work forward with the Osborne Farm Management Plan. uh still a work in progress, but again, in the meantime, we're going to do um I want to look at repairing

138that house just to keep it um keep its integrity before it, you know, so it doesn't deteriorate uh in a way that we consistent with any future user there. Uh Spring CAC met uh the last Tuesday of um or the third Tuesday right after our third meeting in June. The large talking point there was about a the parking problems. Uh Tom, you mentioned this with special events. I think we see during the farmers market and other events in the heart of springs there's parking issues. I brought this up at a previous leazison report too. Um I've started to talking to an engineer about what kind of parking might fit behind the library. Um I have a very very rough plan uh that now I would like to circulate to circulating to planning natural resources. What

139I really want to do is flag any potential issues. Um you know things are going to pop up but sort of see what we can responsibly fit and then scale back from there. But it turns out there's quite a bit of space back there. Um, obviously we want to be as low impact as possible. I see this as kind of a threeseason lot that could be permeable because which I think will help us environmentally. I don't think there needs to be snow plowing for example, which I know sort of leads towards asphalt because the time where there are the big events are sort of usually the summer, maybe the spring and the fall. Um, and there's a lot of excitement the spring CAC. I'm also voicing that here again because uh inevitably there's probably going

140to be other opinions too and I welcome any sort of you know concerns. Uh no there's no other opinion. Yeah. I just one thing to think of is that what restrictions in terms of timing are you thinking of for it? Is it going to have any long term or is it you mean in I don't think I would have official restrictions necessarily. It's just I I I think that we could have a permeable surface if we just acknowledge we're not going to plow it, for example. Because Parson's Place, I think, has plenty of parking in the winter time for people who use the area. It's in the summertime. I mean, you know, we've done a lot of work down there. We have Parsons now. Um the blacksmith shop has been renovated. Pussy's Palm Restoration. Um

141the Heart of Springs had event last year, which was just beautiful. Um I think they're doing, you know, it's the 50th anniversary for the library this year. There's a really popular ma jong game that goes on there. Um, and I think that there's a safety issue. And so I don't want to discourage people from using the beautiful place, but I want to do it safely. And so the idea is to provide with as low impact as possible a place to park. And I just think a permeable surface is more palatable aesthetically and also would serve the needs. So I don't think I would limit necessarily when people could use it if it was it's just practice. Would you say for example restrict overnight parking? That would be something for sure. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

142We've done that in most our parks and I would because that pussy's pond I believe is a nature might be a nature preserve even. So, but I would say go back to the old historical pictures. It was wide open at some point. Yeah. Well, that's that's the other analysis that has been done and that the the quality of I mean look there's some some vegetation there but the quality it's not particularly high. It's not native. Um I would still like to respect the aesthetics and and have good screening so tuck it back within that area. Um, but there's sort of a natural clearing and I don't think it would be environmentally super problematic. We have to make sure that we're we're far enough away from Pussy's Pond and I want to stay out of, you

143know, natural resources, special permit areas and stuff like that. So, it's it's early in the stages, but because I think I had your support to to start, you know, we've taken one more step forward and I um I know that the people in Springs who who utilize that area, everyone I've spoken to are very um eager for this to go. As I I pointed out, it's not a solution for this year, but I would like to, you know, keep it moving, get it done as soon as possible if it proves to be um feasible. The I just want to mention, this is a little bit random, but the first-time home buyer uh program is active, and I just want people to know that there are $30,000 um loans available for for anybody who's a first-time

144home buyer, and this includes not only new houses, but also land and modular homes. So, um, we've had a few applications this year, but not quite as many as last year. I'd like to work with the, uh, public information officer to maybe get this out there. I know we've done a post before, but, um, look, I think that's a great program. I think that we've had some great success cases of people who need it. Um, I think it represents what we all talk about and and have struggled enough of, which is keeping, you know, the the core people of our community here. Um, and and being part of the community. Uh lastly, we had a meeting Tom Flight and myself with at the Monzog firehouse. I thank them for making that available to us about

145the Camp Hero um sewer system. Uh they have an old septic shared septic system there. Um it's been talked about for a long time to replace that with low nitrogen. Uh Kim Shaw has said that there are natural there's um water quality funding available to replace that. Uh and I think it's the right move and and the residents actually were supportive of that. So, this is a big project. It's going to take more planning. Uh Tom and I have been speaking with that community for the last year or so. Wanted to make sure that they were on board and aware of what we were talking about. Uh and this meeting, I think, tied it together. I want to also thank Tom Lembo um from Nelson and Pope who gave a great presentation and I think

146demonstrated the reasons why this is good for the environment, good for for that community and and a worthwhile project. So again, more to come, but I'm I'm moving that forward as of now, uh, with the help of natural resources and others. And since somebody else thanked building his grounds, I think Steve O'Brien's come up here a couple times. I'll just give my thank you to him. I emailed, um, somebody emailed me from the public about a a sign that was positioned in a in a poor place, and I emailed him that day, and I think by the next day it was done. Um, and I appreciate I appreciate his work. There's a lot of different things going on, but Steve seems to do a very good job of sort of if he's in the area,

147taking care of multiple things at once. And um he made me look good on that one, so I appreciate even though I did very little, right? That's all I have. Um so this time of year, I give the East Hampton Town Police Department weekend activity updates. So last weekend was very busy as we build up to Fourth of July. There were 228 calls for service. There were seven DWIs, um, eight arrests and seven of those were DWIs. There were 16 residential noise complaints, four commercial noise complaints, and one commercial establishment received a summon. There were 94 traffic summones, nine accidents, 14 medical aided cases, eight uh, town ordinance uh, tickets were issued for open alcohol, public urination, and noise. Uh the East Hampton Town Police Department Friday and Saturday supplemental shift activity, wrote 25 traffic

148citations, 22 of them were for primarily Ubers and taxis stopped in the roadway uh in Amagancet in Montalk Main Street. Uh as Tom mentioned earlier, you know, as a community, we are deeply relieved there were no serious injuries in the terrible incident that took place on the Montalk Green last weekend. Our hearts go out to the artists whose livelihoods were damaged by this individual. We thank our first responders and law enforcement for stepping up so quickly and we will continue to assess how to keep our residents safe. Uh as I said, we're we're gearing up for Fourth of July. Multiple town departments have coordinated efforts to ensure public safety, smooth traffic flow, and a positive holiday experience for all. uh you know all of our enforcement agencies will be fully staffed. There will be foot

149patrols uh in the business districts of Montalk and Amigansen focused on quality of life violations and traffic safety. Stop DWI overtime shifts have been assigned to ensure further uh road safety. Um we you mentioned we've got fireworks uh Mont Chamber on Friday night, Devon on Saturday night and Sag Harbor also has their fireworks on Saturday night. Um traffic congestion is expected this, you know, especially during the firework events, but just generally we just ask folks, as David pointed out, if you see emergency lights, please pull over and just, you know, be patient. You'll get there. Your kindness goes a long way. Uh marine patrol is going to have patrol vessels underway for the fireworks and uh they'll also be assisting SAG Harbor on July 5th. Ordinance enforcement fully staffed. And then we got a great

150presentation by Lucy and Vanessa today on um beach safety. We hope folks follow that. And if you have non-emergency uh issues, please don't call 911. call the uh the police department at 631-5377575. Uh just want to remind folks the recycling center will be open on July 4th. Uh this Thursday we have a board meeting. There are nine public hearings. Uh we I will have one resolution on that I wanted to point out. It's a bond for $1.5 million for the renovation and expansion of our current dispatch facilities of police headquarters. As board members know in 2025 capital plan we funded the engineering portion and now we're moving towards construction. The facility improvements include HVAC, electric and plumbing upgrades, transaction window replacement, installation of ballistic walls, flooring replacement and a new facility layout. The equipment's and

151is going to be upgraded as we need new consoles. Uh the new monitors will support new technology that we will need uh as we expand our dispatch services. Um like I said, this project's been in the works since last year and some of these needs were identified um during the recent discussions as we're going to be moving uh to providing additional dispatching services in 2026. I also want to make my colleagues aware that uh at I'm not going to be in attendance at next Tuesday's work session. I've been asked to uh interview potential uh developers for the new Route 114 affordable housing project with the East Hampton housing authority commissioners. So Kate will be running the meeting in Montalk. Um we talked a little bit about Kate mentioned some of the uh folks that are

152doing the nonforprofits out here doing the good work. Uh there were a couple events this weekend. One was for the Eleanor Whitmore Early Child Care Center. The other was for Spring's Food Pantry. And I'm going to be asking um some of our grant recipients to make presentations this summer. Um we do provide grant grants for these organizations and I think it would be great for us to get an update on on the work that the good work that they're doing. And lastly, I know you were excited about um what's going on at the multi-purpose path, a multi-purpose field. I'm all excited because the new the newsletter is being dropped at the post office today. So hopefully the post office is going to turn that around quickly and it'll be in the mailboxes this weekend. I

153have one last thing just wanted to mention. Um I I was talking to some of the teachers at the high school about our graduates from the high school for this year and I want to say a remarkable number of students I think it's nine or 10 are joining our armed services and I just want to thank them for their commitment to our country and our safety. So thank you all very much. Awesome. Love to hear that. Okay. So that that's everyone's liaison report for today. So now we can move on to resolutions. It's my pleasure pleasure to offer resolution 2025919. This appoint seasonal employee in the recreational department a uh Augustus swing uh sorry Aggie. Yeah. Got rate $17.85 effective July 2nd 2025. Second. All in favor? 920s appoint seasonal lifeguards in the recreational department

154for May and June 2025. Names, positions, pay scales, and effective dates listed below. Second. All in favor I I 921 is appoint seasonal employee in the recreation department Melanie Viscayana. She is a wonderful girl at $17.85 effected July 2nd 2025. Second all in favor I 922 is a point maintenance mechanic one the buildings and grounds department um Lucas Yenni uh and hourly salary $62,316.80 retroactive to June 9th 2025. Second. All in favor? I. 923 is a terminate seasonal lifeguards and recreational department retroactive the June 14th, 2025 names positions listed below. Second. All in favor? I. 924 is terminate full-time employee in the highway department. Second. All in favor? I. 925 is accept donation from the Monttok playhouse community uh center foundation in the amount of $36,000 to the town of East Hampton. Second. All in

155favor? I. 926 is approved change order number four the Montto Playhouse Community Foundation uh community center to boiler mount boilermatic welding industries incorporated bid eh23-036. This is an amount change over number four in the amount of $21,045 for control valves, pool heater exchangers, temper temperature sensors, integration remote monitoring. Second. All in favor? I 927 is approved change order number 12 from the Montto Playhouse Community Centers uh for Crossroads Corporation bid uh EH23-036 in the amount of $16,41529 and increase the original contract for a booster pump and higher glass railings and guards. Second. All in favor? I I have resolution 928 which is a bud budget modification for natural resources. This is moving $400 from subcontractor costs to motor vehicle repairs. Same amount. Second. All in favor? Resolution 929 is to release security. Uh and this

156is releasing security um uh for approved road work in urban renewal areas. The applicant is 9 Front LLC. Uh that's Elizabeth Gleason at uh 636 Hans Creek Road, East Hampton. The parcel is located at 2 Hawthorne Avenue in Springs and the amount is $18,000. Second. All in favor? I. Right. Those are the resolutions we have for today. Do I have a motion to go into exec session? Yes. I'd like to make a motion to go into executive session for personnel, potential litigation, litigation, contracts, CPF, real estate, and advice of council. Second. All in favor? I thank you everyone for joining us today and thank you Jason at LTV.