East Hampton Town Board Regular Meeting - 03/06/25

001all right good evening East Hampton Town board we are live on channel 22 we're streaming to YouTube you are being recorded and the phone lines are open you may begin your meeting thank you LTV good evening everyone and welcome to the East Hampton Town board meeting of Thursday March 6 2025 Carol if you could please read the roll call [Laughter] pres yep presid preson pres if we could all stand for the Pledge of Allegiance flag the United States of [Music] so tonight we have six public hearings the first is to amend chapter 255 zoning it's the table of dimensional regulations gross floor area for single family homes second hearing is to amend the town code chapters for the personal W Wireless facilities public hearing number three is to amend chapter 240 vehicles and traffic for

002paid parking public hearing number four is a uh notice for the amaganset fire district for the promised land uh fire district for 2025 then we have a hearing to accept a Scenic easement for an urban renewal map at three Hedges Avenue and the last public hearing is for a grant of Scenic and conservation easement for 20 22 Shore Road in amaganset that's followed by public portion and then resolutions uh before we start we have our town historian and town crier Hugh King by way you haven't heard me yet thank you for inviting all these people to hear me speak tonight I have an hour and a half history of East an awesome all right um in July in August at the Fisher house in monok the E The Monto Historical Society will be putting up

003an exhibition on prohibition leading up to that there'll be three lectures next Wednesday March 12th at 7 o'clock at the Fisher house the town historian will be talking about how how we got to Prohibition um and what led up to it and then in April the future Town historian David cadetto who's going to get paid is going to be talking about what happened to Monto during prohibition and then on May 7th the town crier will be down there talking about what happened in East s during prohibition and then why did it fail okay today the eastampton Historical Society with State Stacy Myers and myself U gave a tour of the Panago and Garder windmills to the John Marshall School councilman Lee showed up then he left when they found out the kids couldn't vote I'm

004kidding I'm kidding also last Saturday the trails preservation Society toured The Three Village windmills with myself and the eastampton Historical Society okay buildings on our mind here we go pro these problems happened in the 1650s you ready okay selling property real estate if you take up a lot in the town you had to live on it yourself and you could not sell it unless the town would approve and give consent building codes every house had to have a ladder that reached high enough to go to the top of the house and if you didn't you got a f of Shillings they had to go up and check your chimney as it went through the thatched roof to make sure it was DED so it wouldn't start a fire building size the public decided that the

005meeting house would be 26 ft long 20 feet wide and 8 feet high and the roof would be made out of thatch and there'd be no basement um building code inspectors two men would view all General fences and finding any defect back put a chop on the rail and if you did not mend the fence within two days there would be a fine for every day that the fence isn't mended number five because of the scarcity of Timber in 1676 um no one from outside the town could cut down Timber and if you did you'd pay 10 Shillings for each tree cut down that's all I got the next time I come I'm going to be talking about the the African-Americans and what they gave to our town then the following time I'll be talking

006about women who've made an impact on East stamp Town history have a good meeting I'm going to go home and watch [Applause] it okay so tonight we have 17 people signed up so we'll go through that list then I'm going to take some folks that are on the that are calling in and then we'll come back and ask for a show of hands in the room uh we ask you to kindly out of respect for each other this is going to be a very popular public hearing uh that you keep your kindly keep your comments to three minutes LTV is going to have a clock on the screen counting down the three minutes and then they're going to ring a bell when your time is up rather than me saying your time is up I

007just hope that you can respect when the bell goes off so that others can have an opportunity to speak similar to the Academy Award so we're going to get started and the oh Carol if if you could read the first meeting notice the public hearings will be held live and in person by the town board and will be available electronically by video and teleconferencing and will be televised on local TV channel 22 and available for live stream on the LTV website the public shall be permitted to appear in person but may also provide comments on the matter being heard by calling 351 888 6331 any person of party wishing to be heard with respect to the foregoing may do so in person by agent by attorney or by written comment addressed to the East Hampton

008Town Clerk 159 Panago Road eastampton comments may also be submitted to the town clerk by email to C Brennan at eh hamptonny y.gov all comments must be received by the town clerk by the date and time of the public hearing please check the meeting agenda post it on the town's website for any changes and for updated information no is hereby given that the town Board of the town of eastampton will hold a public hearing at Town Hall 159 Panago Road on Thursday March 6 at 6: p.m. or as soon thereafter as this matter may be heard to consider comments of all persons regarding the amendment of chapter 255 zoning of the East Hampton Town code in order to amend section 255 1110 and Abstract of which follows a local law amending chapter 255 sections 255

0095 11103 residence District table of dimensional regulations part one gross floor area single family residence maximum square feet gross floor area single family residence maximum square feet 7% of lot area plus 1,500 or 10,000 whichever is less the full tax of the local law is available for inspection in the office of the town clerk at 159 panle Road East Hampton during regular business hours thank you Carol so the first person signed up is John bar barisi pels John I apologize if I mispronounced your last namei don't start the clock yet seriously don't start the clock Can I submit to that spech and if you could just everyone when you get up to the uh Podium if you could just say your name for the record so the clerk can capture it okay my name is

010John breli I'm a both a professional engineer and a licensed land surveyor and I uh also live in the town of East Hampton don't worry I didn't bring my calculator so uh I'm not going to make uh numbers up okay also as a professional engineer in a lance of I've been involved with land planning and preparing surveys for building permits in the town of East s since the mid 1970s that's why I need these glasses okay I've seen many changes over these years in the town code open space policies clearing restrictions building coverage total coverage calculations restrictions okay so currently the building permit surveys that we make they require clearing calculations building coverage and total coverage calculations on the survey existing and proposed I've not heard any concerns of GFA for very long time it

011this just didn't come up with all the clients and everything else until very recently and I'm not sure if they're part if they were actually part of the gr of the building Premier applications or if they were overlooked or not enforced because myself as well as many others we can take a ride around the town and see houses that are very large that are not in conformance with the well they don't fit the surrounding areas they're just abnormally large and I and these are even recent houses and I don't think they fit the G the current GFA and I believe that that gives everybody a a false sense that the GFA is not working and that we have to reduce the GFA because these big houses I don't believe some of these big houses fit

012the code now maybe a lack of oversight or just not enforcing it in the billing department and I'm not pointing fingers or anything like that um the proposed resolution would be over a 30% decrease a 30% decrease in the GFA I believe this is a gross overreach and taking partaking of property owner rights and property values there has there been any study or any kind of consideration of how many houses existing out there will al already will now become non-conforming and not have any rights to have any building additions or expansions I see people spending large amounts of money to buy property out here and these properties a lot of them are older houses and they need expansions modernizations people want a new kitchen Edition because their kitchens are small they want a larger master

013bedroom because they don't have a bedroom suite okay if there were a new GFA pest those things would not happen to a lot of people a lot of people would suffer the same loss and damage and I don't think they would know what happened until it hit him it would be too late nobody understands this I saw this in Southampton toown where in the summer one night 1980s they had a hearing there they put through clearing reg regulations nobody knew what happened and it was done people were not aware they didn't know what hit him okay I'm also puzzled this a little bit off off subject but it does I have one last thing I have to say everybody here and listening should go up go back tomorrow night and look at something called class

014action lawsuit what that is and how it affects John you're addressing the board and you need to wrap up please I'm wrapped up but class action lawsuit everyone have to take a look at that thank you next up is Bob Duca group for the East End welcome Bob uh good evening Madame supervisor and town board members my name is Bob Deluca and I have served as president of group of the East end for the last 33 years uh for the record the group was founded in 1972 and presents the conservation and Community planning interests of several thousand member households uh businesses and individuals across the town the five towns of Eastern Long Island including several hundred uh member households here in East Hampton tonight I want to thank the board the planning staff the zoning

015board uh zoning code working group and all the stakeholders for their extensive and Collective efforts to address one of the town's most enduring and important land use challenges and its related regulations uh based on our review of the subject proposal now before you we offer our broad support for the continuing effort to get a handle on the rising tide of oversized homes being constructed at the clear expense of the community's hard one rural and semi- rural character and its limited resources and infrastructure more specifically we asked the board to return to its consideration of the recommendation provided by the zoning code working group which sought to limit future residential construction to a formula of 7% plus 1300 Square ft absent a substantial rational basis for rejecting the original recommendation of the working group we're further

016concerned that the more generous formula now before you might be ripe for Challenge and potentially protract your efforts for several years depending on the action of the courts and the conviction of the petitioners one of which you may have just heard uh in our view uh and as outlined in the letter that we provided to you earlier today the working group proposal reflects careful consideration of the town's long-standing and duly adopted comprehensive plan go dating all the way back to 2005 the 2005 plan made it clear that the town sought to quote develop and adopt maximum Siz restrictions to address the quote Monster House construction Trend that had been uh that had begun at the time and which continues today uh as the board is also aware its more recently updated purposes in its own

017zoning code clearly quote uh prioritize quote reducing overall buildout and minimizing adverse uh impact on Town infrastructure while protecting natural and cultural features the recently adopted zoning purpose further establishes a policy of prioritizing Community needs to prevent disorderly quote growth for the sake of growth while quote sustaining the long-established character of hamlets and neighborhoods and promoting development that is compatible and harmonious with rural natural and historic land use patterns finally and you don't have to take my word for it a review of the local land use codes across the 5 East 10 Towns will demonstrate that home siiz limitations originally proposed are fairly consistent with many of those GFA uh limitations and other homesize standards you'll see in your neighboring towns and villages to this is not an extraordinary proposal that's before you but it's

018indeed substantive and we would ask you to consider it in the end it's been some 20 years since the town carefully considered and adopted clear guidance on the issue of Home size and every opportunity since this policy it has remained intact and even embodied in the clear language of the Town zoning code so it's time once again to take the kind of stand that has long set East Hampton apart from so many other communities that have surrendered their resources and character to the inexorable pressure for ever more development East Hampton can do better and we hope that you will thank you thank you [Applause] Bob next up is John chimple and that's father followed by Martha criselle welcome John hav't seen John forever thank you um my name is John chimple I'm a resident of

019Monto uh I'll be very brief I encourage the board to vote in favor of the original proposal of 7 and 1300 um I think the problems of overdevelopment in the town are incredibly obvious the most obvious to me is the traffic situation and increasing the number of people which having larger houses does um is going to exacerbate that exponentially and I think until we start to get a handle on traffic issues septic issues um we really need to throttle um what I consider overdevelopment that's it thank you thank you John next up is Martha and that's followed by Luke coresi welcome Martha hi good evening thank you so much for having us I'm representing the concerned citizens of mon talk tonight and as an environmental leader we're here because we believe that the environmental impacts

020of large houses uh are a concern and we're particularly focused on the energy and resource demands obviously bigger houses use significantly more energy to run and more natural resources to build in light of these environmental concerns the proposed reduction in house size is an important move toward curbing house size in East Hampton accordingly CC supports the recommendations that resulted from intensive study by the town zoning code Amendment working group reducing the GFA formula to 7% plus 1300 Square fet we do so because the Z the zoning code um recommendation is a result of more than a Year's worth of work sessions public comment and evaluation of alternatives to ensure that the amendment amendment is consistent with the town zoning purposes for that reason we urge that recommend a I would like to just take one

021minute to remind everybody I know the board is very well aware of this but to remind everybody in the room who consisted uh who who made up the zoning code Amendment working group and it was a council member a chief building inspector the assistant director of Environmental Protection the director of Code Enforcement the zoning board of appeals Vice chair a zoning board of appeals member and a former chair person of the zoning board of appeals in addition to that extensive support staff was provided there was a senior planner a deputy Town attorney an assistant County attorney as well as an administrative assistant from the building department these are the experts these are the people that did the work did the studies know what they're doing and for that reason that recommendation should be taken seriously

022and I would urge on behalf of ccom the board to revert back to that more um conservative um formula and move forward with the work at hands thank you thank you Martha next up is Luke Cortez and that's followed and Bill Akin will follow Lou welcome Lou thank you Lou cores not here in any official capacity I'm here under my other alternative identity as a mild mannered retiree residing in the formerly quiet and previously quaint Village of Monto let me distill down my argument as succinctly as I can it's important to remember that we've been living for years now with a townwide alarm and panic as to both an increased intensity of house scale as well as neighborhood density this was and continues to be an almost universally accepted view as a crisis to deal

023with this Calamity the zoning code Amendment workg group was convened to develop Solutions using painstaking research analyzing data and careful consideration of impacts of different social and business demographics about a dozen individuals objectively without any self-interest in the project other than a commitment to be of service to the needs of the wider Community work tirelessly towards finding workable unbiased remedies the zoning workg group zoning code workg group arrived at a GFA formula of 7% plus, 1300 Square ft that it felt would have a meaningful impact on the problem that everyone had agreed was agrees enough that it needed a solution at that point one segment of our population who by the way fears their own personal financial condition will be negatively impacted began their loud and clamorous campaign to prevent adoption of the zoning groups

024GFA code change they couldn't say that the reason they're against it is because their profit margin May shrink so they proferred arguments having to do with individual property rights and cont and curtailment of Home expansion by Young proper prop owners in fact the speculative bubble makes home ownership more expensive affordability by young people is degraded in my view the argument is between individual avarice and CommunityWide welfare the irony is that as the community benefits each of its individual members benefit as well I urge the town board to decide to decide in of the community and all of its individuals and adopt the 7% plus 1300t formula thank you thank you L next up is Bill aen and uh bill will be followed by B Duke welcome Bill Madam chairman board happy to be here my

025name is Bill aen I'm a resident of Mont talk having first set foot on that property in 1953 I've seen a few changes the primary goal of the 2004 uh 2005 comprehensive plan was to maintain the rural or semi-rural character of the town but on page 39 of that plan the planners specifically addressed the situation that they did not know how to set a saturation population for the town so instead they relied on limiting the number of building Lots Nobody Knows the size of this town in terms of people the winter po the winter census population is useless most of the people are here right now um but this relying on on on buildout did not anticipate the size of the houses that were going to be on those lots and the number of people

026that could live in those houses it did not anticipate the one-story house that gets torn down and becomes two stories doubling the occupancy of that of that uh house which does not change the size of the Town it did not anticipate the the summer short-term rentals that jam our houses with with weekend guests Way Beyond the capacity of those towns those houses so what I'm saying is that houses and property and and lots are not necessarily the primary problem the primary problem is the number of people they cause traffic jams they leave debris on the beach they require Emergency Services they need utilities and town surfaces and stretch our whatever we have to to we need as a town to service a growing population so bottom line I'm in favor of anything including this uh

027this proposal to limit the size of houses because although the effect may be minimal it will begin to help in some minor way the size of the town which is the number of people here thank you thank you [Applause] Bill next up is B Duke and Biddle will be followed by Christina Buckley who is reading for bidd who is blue oh okay couldn't make it tonight so he asked me to read a letter that he wrote okay thank you thank you to the town board and the town staff who have worked so hard for so long to get us here particularly Kate Rogers and Jane Maring my roots here go back four generations five if you include my daughter who is trying to make it here roots are less important at this hearing than love

028for this place and the values that I hope we all share the choice today is straightforward we can do nothing and every last remaining neighborhood with the last remnants of financially accessible housing will be transformed into ever more big houses for wealthy part-time residents we can do nothing and the current ever bigger scale of new construction will continue to upend traditional neighborhoods we know where we are headed if we do nothing we're in a profit driven rate to build this place out to build this place Out Of Reach for anyone but wealthy retired folks and seasonal residents is that what we want isn't it way past time to tap on the brakes Isn't it past time to acknowledge that the scale of development has gotten away out of hand you've been given ample data demonstrating

029how much bigger houses have gotten and are getting in this town you have been given data showing how long time local neighborhoods are being transformed the outcry two years ago about all that was loud and unequivocal this Hall was packed with residents asking you to save our neighborhoods rain in the mass and scale of new construction the GFA proposal at hand is an appropriate step in response to the community's concerns about scale and massing the proposal also Al reduces just a bit of the financial upside for developers and speculators and extraordinarily wealthy people who want big homes The Proposal encourages housing that is more in keeping with what is already here all of us Lament The Loss or rather non-existence of accessible housing and the sole crushing transformation of our neighborhoods but even as we

030despair at the problems that development is creating we want the fewest possible obstacles such as tougher zoning rules to stand in the way of Maximum appreciation of our real estate project or homes giving up several hundred square feet off the top of an absolute maximum size is something that for the most part only developers will take advantage of it represents a modest but important sacrifice towards protecting and preserving this place we love which brings us back to values here are mine and I hope they are yours too to strive as individuals and as a community to meet our needs and live amid the beauty and Bounty of this place without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs and their own ability to enjoy this very same Beauty and these very same

031bounties these very same bounties zoning codes are intended to protect our Quality quality of life today but they exist also to protect our children and our grandchildren in every generation after that please consider this as you make your decision thank you thank you l so next up is Christina Buckley followed by Patricia Sanson welcome Christina hi Christina Buckley I agree with a recent newspaper edit torial that said we need a rebalancing in eastampton to rebalance the runaway real estate market that is wiping out whole neighborhoods of modest sized houses in favor of maxed out Estates that are marketed to non-residents and investors these neighborhoods our neighborhoods are radically changing due to the ever increasing property prices that are pushed by developers Builders Realtors Etc it is in their best interest to block these proposed zoning

032changes simply because they want to continue to build bigger and cash in will you let them continue to do so I have heard this board say many times we are elected public servants we are not politicians and we rely on your voice we need you the community to speak out about what you care about so we can make informed decisions for close to two years this community has been coming before you making their opinions known the people that live here year round have been telling you that things are wildly out of balance local residents are being priced out of their neighborhoods based on the forsale signs sprouting up literally every day Springs is on its way to changing over from a yearound community of working people in modest Siz homes with open views to becoming

033an area that looks like all the other parts of East Hampton overs scaled mcmansions beyond Behind giant Hedges that have a fortress-like appearance and feeling because of because these modest properties are among the last Bastion to be exploited and developed local residents are incentivized to sell to move away the lack of available properties and the self-serving interests of all who make money from this industry are jacking up the prices in areas like Springs I love living in Springs but if in a few years my modest house is surrounded by mcmansions imposing Hedges and electric gates and I no longer can pass my neighbors daily On My Street walking their dogs saying hello I may choose to leave also and it will be because the soul of my community is gone and once it's gone it's

034never coming back I in I am here in support of the proposal to amend the zoning code to the 7% plus 1300 Square ft formula it is reasonable rational and will help to rebalance the current situation this isn't about nostalgia belgia are trying to go back to simpler times it is about saving what little is left to what makes East Hampton and all of its neighborhoods a place we love and cherish thank you thank you Christina next up is Patricia Sansone and that and she will be followed by Ruben Cano welcome Patricia thank you my name is Patricia Sone thank you to the town board members for this opportunity to address you this evening you've heard many polished speeches from the moneyed interests I ask you to listen to the humble and passionate voices of

035those of us who truly love East Hampton not for what it means or what it becomes in the summer but for what it is a rich world of Exquisite natural beauty a world where man and nature have intertwined for centuries where people respected the environment and their neighbors where has that gone once upon a time size and scale and neighborliness mattered now it's an anything goes mentality with no consideration of the consequences of what is built or what is destroyed in the process no one can deny the uglification of our neighborhoods the land is stripped bare the structures pushed to their allowable maximums and often Beyond if granted the coveted variance these oversized structures are blatant AFF fronts to quality of life no one one wants or deserves to live in the shadow of a

036house looming over theirs and the ensuant loss of privacy quiet and comfort in these times of severe environmental disruption it is indefensible to destroy precious habitat and use massive resources to build outfit and heat and cool these monstrosities The Architects Builders developers need to follow a moral not a monetary path to need a movement to slow down scale back be less ostentatious what is more glorious and what brings us more happiness than this beautiful town of East Hampton board members I ask that you please require restraint and respect thank you next up is Ruben Cano followed by Ed Krug welcome Ruben thank you thank you for the opportunity I don't have as composed a message as everyone else uh my name is Ruben Cano I'm a resident of East Hampton a year round resident uh

037I'm here to speak out and say uh I I am not in favor of the proposed uh GFA change and the reason is personal but I think uh that um growing families year- round residents with growing families people that are here and will be the future here do need the room and opportunity to accommodate their growing needs this is a the changing world and we have changing needs for instance I work in Manhattan but I'm able to live here full-time and and spend all of our money here we we ice skate at Buck skills we buy our shoes at gobbins and my my wife was a president of the PTA of the middle school for a couple of years and our kids are are are are excelling here but we're able to do that because

038I work remotely but I need space to work remotely and that's something that's not considered when we're asking about growing space I also I also just for context you know we live here full-time we've been here for 10 years but my family's in Europe most of my family lives in Spain my my wife she's from she's from Russia she has family in Italy we don't have family help my mother who is one of the few people in my family who lives here lives lives 85 miles away we need to bring her into our home she's over 80 I don't have the space for her someone said can't you put her in the basement she's 80 I don't think that's necessarily an option um my children without having a big family infrastructure they need to have

039the opportunity to return here to eastampton how can I do that if they can't to live here now how can I have them and their families come and stay with me in the summertime when we can get so much value out of this and this isn't me speaking from the position of a developer or a builder I understand that we want to limit some egregious overb builds but it seems like this measure is is very broad speaking and Broad Broad and wide and and and and ultimately in this broad stroke measure it's it's taking into account a lot of the feelings of people who have been here for a long time but uh we're not taking into account the feelings of the people who will inherit this place and what we need and frankly I

040I I need space to grow and I went through the trouble and and expense of getting an architect to design a house and now I'm several hundred feet over per the new rules uh for several hundred feet I may have wasted tens of thousands of dollars and frankly reconsider how this town can support me but we have supported this town we we're there we have youth in this town that will support this town and we'll be the residents of the future we'll be at this meeting one day in the distant future but we may choose to pack up move to Manhattan and rent our place here and and and be one of the many renters you know where the people that subsidize their income through through Airbnb here I I certainly don't want to do

041that we' finally found a place that we feel comfortable we want to a place we want to live forever and yet um some of these measures do seem punitive to the to the to the to the full-time residents who are not of of incredible wealth we just want uh quite literally uh an extra several hundred or or possibly thousand extra square feet to accommodate a growing family not to not to inundate this town in in a in a negative way or detract from the character quite quite opposite we'd like to contribute to the character of this town and I feel that in some ways this measure is limiting us in our ability to do that thank you for your time [Applause] you next up is KR followed by Sha mcke welcome Ed thank you very

042much uh my name is Ed Krug uh I am like Lou not here in an official capacity as a planning board member but as a private citizen and a builder uh and I'm here to speak out with enthusiasm about these proposed changes the ones that are on the table um I've live I love this town I've lived here for 30 years um I've had a design and build business out here for the past 11 years and I'm not saying that my experience as a builder is universal uh there are many other business models for being in in this world of designing and building than mine but I just want to make a pitch for building smaller uh and by the way my my impression is the numbers we're talking about these are not small houses

043even with the new GFA limitations these are sizable houses particularly as you get into the Halfacre and larger um domain um so you know my business has really been about uh helping people uh renovate houses that are seasonal houses making them into into full-time yearound hous es uh expanding them to accommodate a new generation of kids um and many of those people I feel would would have purchased a newb buil house if there were more manageable siiz houses available to them and I hear this all the time you know there's really I want something that sort of Suits my needs and is manageable so I think it's very possible to you know be in this business and accommodate these changes um fairly easily into uh into business business model and still produce sophisticated outcomes that

044meet people's needs um but I will say though that above and beyond all of that my other sense of this is that uh and my other concern is property values long term I feel that every time that there is a new outsize house built in a neighborhood that overshadows its neighbors that is incompatible we we diminish our community character by that much and a thousand p paper cuts later we are not going to be the Charming semi- rural place that attracted us all here in the first place and this is not going to be a town that people are going to want to be in play in um live in and invest in so I really urge you to adopt these new Z Cod changes thank you next up is sea mck and Sean is

045followed by hery enton welcome Sean thank you Sean McGee I'm here to speak against the new GFA proposal during the last open discussion it was stated that GFA was being readdressed and reduced because of the support of the public from what I have seen this is a largely divisive topic one which has seen an equal amount of opposition stating that this has public support when so much opposition is present begs one to question whether all sides are truly being heard furthermore at least one person appointed to the committee has an open and public disdain for the home building and building industry this individual has an evident and clear bias which has regularly been on display through public comments so I ask where was your overly aggressive developer or contractor on this committee without equal voices

046there is no equal representation one-sided bias leads to a more aggressive recommended reduction of GFA and has no place on a committee determining something of this magnitude so again I ask are all sides truly being heard and represented you aim to reduce the GFA of every property in East Hampton and doing so decreasing the value of all of our properties matters of this importance deserve to be brought to a public vote if a school district raises taxes Beyond 2% it must be voted on publicly and passed by a super majority of over 60% yet our property value can be significantly reduced and our property rights removed without a true say in the matter let the people decide what we want and if you have the public support you speak of a vote will prove that

047David you spoke openly about how nice it is to have the space to raise your family yet this reduction tells much of the public we aren't deserving of that same space despite purchasing the property and property rights to do so we're being we're being told we don't get to have what you have please put yourself in our position and understand where we are coming from and how unfair and wrong this feels Tom you mentioned people's properties being their most important asset and how you don't want to decrease that value too much why are you okay decreasing it at all that's our life savings our retirements and our nest eggs Kate in your last presentation every chart displayed columns showcasing the size of houses with full basements and garages even though neither of those are included

048in GFA existing structures without 7 foot basements can't be remodeled to make that space livable the only fair and consistent measure is actual GFA and that should be the only measurement presented to the public or are you encouraging us all to knock down our houses and rebuild them with fill basements the charts are not a fair representation of the reality many of us are facing this brings me to my last Point regardless of lot size the board acknowledges a square a 600 foot attached garage as a right we are fighting for the space for our families the town is trying to significantly reduce building size but then a 600t attached garage of the is acceptable within that structure that is not livable space how does that make sense and how does that help us the

049absolute least that you can do is make the 600 squ ft of the attached garage flexible space but homeowners can decide whether they want an attached garage or if they need that space for their families if I have no use for a garage I should be able to use that space for bedrooms for my children allowing the allotted garage space to be livable and included in GFA has no impact on total house size above ground coverage neighborhood character or curbside appearance all this does is give us place to live please prove to us that you're not trying to push people out do you one thing that shows you actually care how this impacts the people who are living here and raising families here thank you thank you [Applause] Sean next up is hery and that's

050followed by Jess Frost welcome hery hello down board my name is hery eginton I live in waycott on a 67 acre lot uh that my wife and I purchased in 1978 in a 1900 square foot home that we built uh new in 2007 uh we live there comfortably uh we uh have our family uh and our grandkids on a regular basis I am in full support of the propos OS change in the GFA formula for new house Construction in East Hampton to 7% of lot area plus 1300 square feet the current formula too often creates houses on smaller lot sizes that are add of proportion compared with neighboring previously built older homes these larger homes use more energy to heat and light in the winter months and to air condition in the summer further given

051uh the escalation in land costs and construction these homes are extremely costly and are often built by people who don't live in them year round and are being rented on a short-term basis to underwrite their High Cost of construction or acquisition the trash generated from these short-term reoccurring rentals is in itself a problem the corollary problem resulting from these larger houses is being built is that local yearr round residents are being priced out of the East Hampton housing market while this continuing development enriches developers whose other business and sources of funds are often located elsewhere Architects Builders the real estate industry and the online rental sites it is not sustainable and overtime has diminish the quality of life for those living here you need to change the GFA formula so that these supersized houses can

052no longer be built or offered for sale thank you for your consideration thank you hery next up is Jess Frost followed by Janice H Delano hi welcome Jess thanks um my name is Jess Frost I um have lived in East Hampton for over 50 years the past eight of which I've been running a free nonprofit artart Center on a town-owned cpf property Duck Creek is proof of what good planning can achieve preserving history fostering community and protecting our shared environment but unchecked development threatens that progress oversized ecologically damaging homes are out of step with our community's values eroding affordability depleting resources and diminishing our quality of life after almost two years of research and groundwork the Zone code working group has proposed a reasonable rebalancing of the GFA formula from 10% 1600 squ ft to

0537% 1300 this is a reasonable adjustment that still allows for spacious homes while preventing supersized construction that is destroying our neighborhoods these changes are not radical they're essential but it's not enough we must also close loopholes that allow oversized development to continue unchecked by adopting these zoning code reforms reducing and regrading soil displacement preventing excessive excavation of walk out basements counting garages and unfinished basements over 600 square F feet as part of house size limiting EX accessory structure Heights and capping house sizes at 10,000 ft from 20,000 these changes protect groundwater conserve energy and preserve the character of our town ensuring that East Hampton remains livable sustainable Community for future Generations I urge you to support these zoning reforms and protect the future of our town from its most invasive species which is unchecked greed

054thank you Denise followed by Jane Maring is Janice here I'm Janice Delano thank you very much for allowing me to speak for a minute um I just wanted to to uh say that I I do think that this one size all sort of fits formula uh is is could be done better with a few more nuances to it I just realized looking at these formulas you know I've sent you a chart where I showed what happens with a quarter acre lot a Halfacre lot and a 1 acre lot and I wish I could put this chart on the board um but the old formula pre 2017 was 2800 square ft on a quarter acre lot 4,000 sare fet on a Halfacre lot and then 6,400 ft on a 1 acre lot now the same numbers

055are 2600 3600 and 5600 now the the 2600 is on the quarter acre lot and that's only a 10,000 foot lot it's very small so it's being inhibited by a lot of factors including setbacks a lot of other things and um and now the many people are saying they're in support of the original proposal which would have made that that small parcel 2,000 square feet and I think it's kind of the board to have thought this through and under this revised proposal it would be 2,300 ft that's still a very small house on a quarter acre into that young man's point you would think that on the smaller Parcels like that someone could have a choice between the 600 squ feet of garage and the I mean it should be more nuanced when you get

056to the Halfacre lot there's another issue coming in that I just realized this last weekend which I did not realize that the GL gross floor area I believe that's what I saw when I read the definition you can all correct me if I'm wrong but I I uh think that that does not include porches and several other um overhead structures so you could have a huge porch around the house that could be the thing that a lot of people are saying is making they see these big houses that don't seem to conform it could be because they don't conform to the GFA if you include the porch and um right now I think the formula at 1 half acre which is 3600 Square ft that's exactly what it is in sopon because I just built

057in sopon and sagon Village is known for being extremely restrictive that's because they include the porches and all those other things you all have in Gross floor you all do not have in Gross floor area they have everything except a 16inch roof overhang as part of their gross floor area so I think that should be worked into this formula also it should be an absolutely consistent formula that includes everything including porches and things like that now when you get to the one acre when you did change this formula to 7% plus 1500 square ft the new numbers would be 2300 ft for a quarter acre parcel 10,000 which is really small tiny house 2900 squ F feet for a half acre which is way smaller than sagap ponic except now somebody could still stick a

058big porch on there and maybe get close to the size of sagap ponic but still you have setback limitations so and then you get up to a 1 acre parcel and a 1 acre parcel now they'd be restricted to 4,300 square ft when it used to be when it currently is 5600 that and that's on a very very small um that's a very small parse when it see from the front when you look at something like that am I out of town oh when you look at something like that it is very um you need to speak on the microphone and please wrap it up when you look at something like that from the street you still you have a house that's like 30 by 30 ft by 70 ft it's not on a one

059acre you've got two 200 ft x 200 ft with 60ft setbacks on all sides and you're not going to notice the difference between a 4,300 ft house and a 5600 square foot house from the street or from the neighbors because there's so much of a setback on each side so I think this is a really unfair like formula at one acre for to cover this situation but it may be I don't know how it would be fair anyway I'm thank you welcome Jame um good evening board my name is Jane miring I live in amaganset I'm not speaking as a member of any um formal board I speak as a full-time individual and as a member of the zoning code Amendment working group by the way a seat I have every right to occupy and

060have earned my way on to and have made contributions I'm feeling a little fed because three years of a lot of work and involvement that I've had and done comes down to these three minutes and I want to spend more of my time on positives now rather than being in combat mode um the positive why we are here because so many great people living in the town those Vis people visiting too who people in the town seeing and seething of things about things they see but willing to speak up about their concerns about what is being built around them and the other positive that this board has been listening to the people all the people and taking this process for almost two years now in a very serious way um but I must address a

061few of the talking points I've heard being spread first that the change will result in catastrophe a collapse of property Val values top laying the economy leading to unemployment of hundreds if not thousands and second that what is on the table is somehow extremist like on the first part I can find no shred of evidence absolutely nothing to verify these fear making talking points not when I look at 25 years of real estate data not when I read Decades of commentary by real estate agents talking about the things that drive the market nothing when I look at um when I pour through scholarly research about what drives prices of property and houses um not when I study the impact at the last two times the town made a for a formula change and most dramatically

062not when I studied closely what happened on Mar's Vineyard a place very similar Dynamics to ours when they put an upper Max of 3500 on 3 Acre Properties what happened there not catastrophe um house size reduced by 40% and prices more than doubled and all and number of the towns around them thought it was such a good thing that they've adopted it too and then on this issue of um it being extreme or not the only things that are extreme was the shocking size of mass and scale of what's being built these days in every neighborhood what's extreme is the affordability catastrophe before us that the most most current and recent land use and development Trends are exacerbating and what is also extreme are the challenges to our over overall sustainability water quality loss of

063habitat shoreline erosion so in conclusion seconds um it's human nature to look through the prism of self-interest so indeed it's to be expected that many will focus more on what they believe is taken away than what um the broader context and weighing the potential benefits that might ensue from these changes we all fancy ourselves and believe and we are part of a community but if we really are part of a community then maybe we as individuals have to give up something have to be willing to because it has to be for a greater good of the community so I thank you very much thank [Applause] you so I've gone through the list of everyone that signed up so I'm just going to turn to LTV Matthew how many folks do we have on the line

064we have 11 callers at this time okay so what we're going to do is we're going to take the first five and then we'll come back to the room for a show of hands and we'll go back and forth so if you could put the the first caller through that would be great okay great and callers uh when you come on if you're if you could mute your television um before you uh start speaking that'd be appreciated thank you I'm unmuting the first caller uh number ending in 23 or 2310 hello uh may I may I speak for Carol Steinberg of to do she's my wife uh she's not able to come to to the phone uh but I'd like to to read her statement with your permission okay please do thank you thank you

065I am Carol Steinberg of two Dogwood Drive in Springs next door to a new Monster House house which unfortunately had to knock down maybe 40-year-old trees maybe a dozen of them I hearty I hearly support the proposal of the zoning code Amendment work working group of 7% plus 1300 Square ft the group arrived at their proposal after much study and discussion and it takes into account all interests Kate Rogers showed us all in great detail and with visuals that this formula provides ample room on all Lots in East Hampton for good siiz homes to accommodate all reasonable needs in my will I am leaving my house to the ponic land trust with a Cons with a conservation easement that runs with a land that prevents a monster house ever being built on my lot that

066is not enough the town Board needs to act on behalf of all of us I call on each Town board member to honor your obligation to those who elected you and to to the town's comprehensive plan and not interest groups and those who spread misinformation and support the proposal of the zoning code Amendment working group to the benefit of the people the character and the precious resources of the town of eastampton respectfully car Steinberg as thank you thank you Matthew if you could put through the next caller okay um unmuting caller with the number ending in 5138 hello this is Bill crane from the East Hampton group for wildlife our group strongly supports a reduction in the size of new homes at present the construction of large luxurious homes requires the destructions of trees bushes

067and ground that provide wildlife habitats the current situation is unfair to our animal relatives trees themselves are extremely valuable they prevent soil erosion they beautify our community they absorb pollutants they provide shade and by absorbing and storing carbon dioxide they help fight global warming in this process of carbon absorption they release oxygen that animals need to live including humans the town zoning code Amendment the working group has made a recommendation that seems very reasonable please take action to reduce the size of the buildings thank you thank you [Applause] Bill next caller a number ending in 7877 hi it's uh CRA vanle can you hear me yes we can Craig welcome hi hi everybody uh CRA anckle from Spring um been a a real estate agent for the past 30 some odd years out here and

068uh just connecting my current comments to my prior comments I had been in favor of having a progressive formula that sort of was a little more generous for the smaller lots and more restrictive for the larger Lots um and the um sort of suggest question that I had given um did address the proportion of the basement relative to the upper stories but that has not become part of the consideration and given that that is not part of the consideration um using a quarter acre lot as an example a 2,000 square foot um GFA from the seven and 13 7% and 1300 square foot uh formula that was originally uh proposed by the working group um again on a quarter of acre would give you 2,000 square fet if you were to have uh that uh

069distributed over two stories above and uh I a third of I mean in a half a four a half of the 2,000 foot be um uh for the lower level that would be the equivalent to the footprint of the thousand foot first floor it would be a 3,000 ft house but given that there's no restriction on the basement you could have a on story 2,000t house that would cover the GFA and a full you know almost 2,000 foot basement which would result in a 4,000 foot house um when you go up scale of the larger Lots the sizes of the potential full buildout become enormous uh in a very short period of time on a one acre lot you could have you know 8,000 square foot house um and that's on the less restrictive of

070the proposals that perhaps are being considered uh you obviously if you had 7% plus 1500 you could have um a much larger house uh above uh I mean with a with a one story um uh GFA on one story and then a full a build out on the basement so I would um I would greatly support the more restrict restrictive 7% plus 1300 Square ft um I don't think it necessarily will compel the best development pattern I think that there will be people that will want to have more of their GFA above grade on smaller lots and that they will feel you know put out by this but I think that the more permissive uh formula of seven and 15 is going to allow too big houses it doesn't do enough to constrain um the

071houses that are inevitably going to take advantage of a smaller Second Story a larger first story and a very large basement so I would uh I would um support and and and urge you to uh adopt the 7% and 1300 scri foit and perhaps consider the basement with a different way of approaching it uh in the future than was proposed in the past thank you thank you Craig Matthew if you could put the next caller through okay next caller uh number ending in 4602 on muting good evening Town board members and eastampton residents this is bexy Petroski calling it to add my voice and offer my position on tonight's zoning code change public hearing so here we are two years later that Supervisor berkal has made good on a campaign promise and commissioned to new

072zoning code Amendment working group committee to do a deep dive analyst on a much needed zoning code change being discussed tonight to reduce the maximum GFA on townwide Sor Lots particularly in densely populated neighborhoods where as we know new oversized build outs are the norm that are crammed into modest lots that then Loom over their neighbors properties blocking sunlight and the night sky in addition to excessive clearing to accommodate these structures I ask the board tonight to zoom out from the nuts and bolts of this proposal for just one it and remember that eastampton town Prides itself on the preservation of open space Land We dedicate significant cpf funding for this very initiative so why wouldn't we also want to save protect create and preserve open space around our homes and properties in our Hamlet's

073neighborhoods one has everything to do with the other and they go hand in hand this is the big picture though a little late we can now protect what is left because if not protected this will be the eyes of our beautiful town as we knew it and now as we know it today because we are on the brink of losing our individual and Community open space in our neighborhoods this is and should be the Mandate of our town board and residents it is on you our elected Town board members who now hold in your hands this opportunity for open space between our property lines I trust you'll make the right decision with your approval on the support and vote and finally put the second part of the updated zoning Cod change into action thank you

074very much thank you [Applause] Betsy you put the next caller through please Matthew okay I'm muting uh phone number ending in 2399 hi everyone good evening supervisor Burke Gonzalez and members of the Town Board of eastampton this is Susan mcra keber full-time resident of eastampton I'm sorry I won't be able to be there in person but I wanted to um call and let you know my position um as a former real estate broker of several decades and more recently a member of the eastampton Town Trustees for six years where I was deeply devoted to the preservation and protection of our natural resources I'm calling in in less than three minutes to say I am definitely in favor and support of the amendment to the gross floor area range of 7% plus500 Square ft I spoke

075earlier in the year and uh of last year and let you know exactly how I feel and why and I thank you so very much for the two years you have spent on this issue which is vitally important to the future of our community and our children and our grandchildren of which I am now a proud grandma um so um thank you so very much all of you and also a special shout out to Kate Rogers Deputy supervisor for taking this on and uh doing all the research and the work entailed it's a big project and I thank you all very much have a good evening thank you Susan Okay so so we're gonna come back to the room take a few uh people and then we'll go back to the phones Larry you're the

076first one to have your hand up and then you can go after well Larry's going to go first all right she can go Larry if you wouldn't mind all right I have to take this off to do that sure all right good evening board and could you just pull the microphone down speak to this is can you just pull the microphone down to you can you hear me now yes and if you could say your name for the record to the board and all the people that are here uh I think that um we need your name we need your name for the record oh yeah I'm sorry my name is Pat Collins I'm a resident of of mon talk I'm sorry that I I have to come in this condition but it is what

077it is all right um I see that uh what you're trying to do is preserve the character of the community which I'm all for but I think that uh the uh Community consensus when you have five and a half different entities within the town of eastampton is rather Broad in its scope and uh I really I'm not aware of and I read everything um of where the community consensus came from what generated this back in 2023 who wanted the changes to the gross FL uh floor area for uh in relation to the size of your lot I I understood that it was the monster uh building type of thing but now this is affecting smaller parcels and that you know is is good as well but I think that you don't want to make changes

078that are too Draconian that you had changes that were just done about eight years ago you want to take into effect that when people come to you about their particular area it's a very individual thing and uh I know that you you have studied this uh at length but I I still have questions about what triggered the uh the need for this all this work that you've all particularly you put into this and uh how it affects the different hamlets and villages we are not all actually uh uniform I'm from M talk had people here from way SC you have people from Springs and and the character of each of those communities is different even though we live in one town and it's a beautiful town and I'm glad that you do all the work

079and I appreciate the time to speak to you and to my fellow residents okay thank you thank you Pat sorry folks there are two seats that are empty up here I know there's folks sitting on the floor and if there's a seat an empty seat next to you maybe you could just raise your hand so folks would know that I just want to make sure people can get through aisles and we need a bigger room Larry hi uh my name is Larry Kane um feel like I've spent almost as much time in this room over the last two and a half years as you guys uh like to thank you all for taking this on as I said 2 and a half years ago this is a very difficult issue it affects everyone in this

080room everyone in your town um the first thing I'd like to say is um about a year and a half ago I came up with a plan um which I call a compromise came up with the idea of 8 plus 1600 um 2017 you went from 12% plus 1600 to 10% plus 1600 as you know as numbers get smaller they become more significant to go from 10 to 8 is a big jump and so what we had is a compromise that we came to you guys with about a year and a half ago compromise is something we could use a lot more of in our government these days um everyone's over here or over here um we sat here with a group of 20 people one day I called it our Kumbaya moment let's all

081come together 8 plus 16 if years from now a couple years next year you decide that's not enough it's an easy number you just cross it out you revise it um we then sat here A year later we sat to listen to Jeremy Jeremy showed pictures of about six houses we all agreed we did not like the pictures of what we saw came together I think there were 12 new proposals on the table work together passed 11 of them as of March 1st those are all in effect but now we're at the point where I think we're trying to go too far people are trying to go too far listening to your own planning board picked by you guys the other night I think we had one out of seven for this proposal three who

082were wishy-washy and three who were adamantly against it this is your own planning board then as we look at issues that I've listened to over the last year here we've talked about affordability I don't think whether we go 715 or 8816 that affects affordability at all I listen to a program on Airbnb whether houses are renting for 55 85 110,000 a week this doesn't have anything to do with 715 versus 816 this I then called code enforcemen I found out I could rent my own personal house I think up to 18 times a year as long as I do it for more than 14 days again affordability is a problem Airbnb is a problem clean water is a problem I put $85,000 septic systems in my house I know some of the people sitting in

083the crowd here might live on Samy's beach with the septic system the size of this Podium and so if we want to clean up the water lots of ways to clean up the water garbage I listen to people say these houses are big no one stays in them H are they big and produce a lot of garbage or they maybe this trucks I see at the dump with 30 cans of garbage on it come from the smaller houses there are two sides to every story I think everyone's coming to the side where we all love our town we want clean water we want clean Trails we want all of these things let's get compromise compromise compromise our government needs it right now please I'd love to see it from you guys thank [Applause] you again

084show a hands Jonathan sure it's coming what Jack it's [Music] coming hi welcome thank you I don't have anything prepared to say yes my name is Darius Narito I am now a real estate agent so I guess I'm one of the people the villains here although I've only been a real estate agent for 10 years in my mid-50s I became a real estate agent I've had three other careers here I'm also an eastampton lion and I'm a member of the a board member of the food pantry right behind here for a long time I have two children that were born here I wasn't born here I was born in the city I moved here in 1982 when I was 19 years old I came here I started out living in an unfinished basement because I

085couldn't afford anything else I rented and eventually I bought a piece of property a half an acre for $50,000 imagine that $50,000 and I could hardly afforded at that time when interest rates when I built my house and interest rates finally dropped down to I think it was eight and a quarter percent I could afford to buy groceries again I'm not in that situation anymore I have multiple properties now I was able to do that in my life I have two children they can't afford to live here they both graduated high school here and they can't afford to live here here at the moment my business is pretty much selling small houses to young families strange that that's what my Niche became but it is what my Niche is to think that some of the

086homes that I'm selling to people are going to have these restrictions on them now when they're buying them with on a Sho string budget with the idea that it's one day they're going to be able to have it fit the size of the family that they want to grow it's really I think it's unfair and the gentleman back here who said that this should go to a vote to all of East Hampton I couldn't agree more thank you thank you for [Applause] letting we're gonna go back to the phone and take a couple of callers on the phone Matthew please okay all right unmuting caller uh number 9817 uh good evening this is Marcy wilkov Waterman a full-time resident of monok I'm uh speaking in support of any and all amendments to the zoning code

087that will have an impact no matter how small on the current trend of oversized houses that are straining our Town's infrastructure and making our wonderful East Hampton increasingly unlivable for all I fear that that even the proposals now on the table may be too little too late uh I want to commend uh the town board for creating the zoning code uh working group and the fine work of uh particularly Kate and Jane whom I know um but the fine work that's been done over the nearly two years um they've conducted a thorough study developed substantial evidence to drive thoughtful recommendations one of which is to change the GFA formula to 7% plus 1300 Square ft I think that change is extremely generous given the abuses that we currently see everywhere around us including right next

088door to my very own house here in monok um I sympathize with uh the young families who would like room to grow and I can't believe that there's not a solution that would suit both uh the oversized houses and the young people who want to expand their houses their must be a compromise but I don't think that a compromise should be done by splitting the baby without data and evidence so um I strongly support 7% plus 1300 Square fet uh to mitigate the damage that's already been done by overdevelopment greed and monster houses like the one next door to me that have pushed our community past carrying capacity and overburden our infrastructure and environment these recommendations from the working group are merely a first step and I urge the town board to keep going and

089to try harder please take action without delay and at a minimum enact the 7% plus 1300 Square ft thank you very [Applause] much Matthew if you could put another caller through sure I'm muting uh phone number ending in 6412 uh good evening Town board it's Rona clotman from amaganset um I've lived in my I live in beachampton where there are many quarter acre uh Lots where of which I am one resident for 37 years I've seen a lot of changes uh in my community when I come home at night I think my light is the only light that's on in the winter time actually there's very little very few homes that are here all year round and I I strongly support the 7% and 1300 square foot formula I think it's time for this board

090to make a definite decision I was at the planning board meeting on last Wednesday and I watched the differences of opinion you are going to have many diverse opinions among the community uh because of the complexity of the issue but I think it's very important uh that the board takes a final stand you have worked very hard on this with the committee and uh prestigious members of of the board and of the town to make a decision and I think um it's going to take a lot of guts to do it but I think you have to make a decision once and for all uh that this community deserves more than it's been getting with the mcmansions surrounding all the little acreage and um I I do hope uh that you support the 7% in

0911300 in your decision thank you thank you [Applause] Rona Matthew we'll take one more call and then come back to the room okay unmuting uh phone number ending 0428 uh yes Jeffrey palmo calling uh mon talk parttime resident um I bought my house back about 2007 it's a little less than half an acre I don't know the exact square footage of my house but it's much less than what we've been talking about and I have plenty of room for myself my wife and my family my kids when they were growing up and coming home uh from college with their friends plenty of room for son-in-laws and Grand Grand children so I really don't buy this uh we don't have a big enough house the house you know all the things I want to do I

092find that I find that kind of hard to believe especially as a member of the Baby Boomers um when I was growing up the average family size it wasn't unusual for family to have five or six kids and the houses were much smaller back then and people got along fine so I I don't bu this argument on that um I also I could see um the infrastructure is crumbling all around us whether it's in M talk or East Hampton the roads are in terrible shape trucks are back and forth the shoreline and the beaches are being destroyed every winter by storms we have to put a limit to the over building thank you thank you Jeffree okay we're gonna come back to in the back welcome hi my name is Telly cusos uh I've been

093resident here for most of my life and I have three kids and um I just uh I kind of want to go back to what Janice was saying I think that this uh needs to be a little bit more nuanced this seems like kind of a blanket solution for um for something that's probably could the discussion could be uh opened up a bit more I was looking for where I was going with this because I was here a while back and spoke and kind of all over the place but um right now I think you know besides a few outliers any more restrictions will devastate the majority of people who live on in smaller Lots than that more than likely repres present their largest asset the POS is meant to keep the town focused on

094its initiative to preserve history or forests or acfer this is where I get hung up about this whole thing of how big a h is a house from the last time I was here um a Monster House in a neighborhood of monster houses behind monster Hedges does not change the character um and what about talking about other options if the goal here is to uh you know preserve character what if we started looking at for example solar getting better um some people were talking about these houses that the last woman on the phone there's nobody home what if some of these houses we start talking about uh generating energy or um you know from the house while you're not there what if what if a a 10 10,000 ft house has a grass roof on

095it that or you I'm going all over the place again but you know like I think we need to open up the conversation Beyond just 7% plus 1300 or 10% plus 1600 to think about things that uh you know not just all or none for everybody cuz there's people out here that live on quarter acre lots fifth of an acre lots 10th of an acre l Lots what these these numbers add like a drastic change for those people that's all I have to say thank you [Applause] Char hi I'm Randy ball and I did not plan to speak at all but um I do want to back up Larry and Telly for for for who just spoke right now and saying that so focused on size size size but it really is about the environment

096and I think that Larry is really correct and we when we're beating down the developers and Architects it's it's really not about size I mean size is an aesthetic and I understand if people don't like the Aesthetics that are built being built next to them I mean that's just a fact of life we don't always get to choose what the look of what's around us is right um but we do have the choice of you know what's build um environmentally with our um with our tools with our products so I do think that taking more of an environmental look at building is more important than size um and I think that most of you kind of would agree with that ver you know per the septic changes right so that was a really good um

097good step in the right direction and there's more step like the solar the building materials we want to make sure now that we're protected over fires after everything that's going on like the fire is something that we really should be talking about um so I would also like to say that while we're beating up the industry um also we are the people who are selling these homes to the people who are paying a lot of money into the ponic land trust fund right with their purchases and the ponic land trust fund has been set up to protect our environments um and I think that that's something that should also be looked into it's just not the builders it's where is that money from the bonic Land Trust going to protect our environment and how do

098we just environmentally grow and and take advantage of that thank you [Applause] Randy over here Paul welcome Paul hi good evening U I'm Paul MOS and I'm here as a chair of the uh East Hampton sustainability committee our committee was just reestablished this year to advance uh sustainability principles and advise on environmental changes facing our community we have also been tasked with promoting Net Zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2040 and reducing uh waste and overc consumption and key word overc consumption because that has to do a lot with the big houses we're talking about um so I'm here to speak on our support for uh supportting unanimous recommendation for the town board to adopt the December 7th 2024 formal proposal of the working group to revise and rebalance rebalance the maximum gross floor um area

099allowance to 7+ 13 our recommendation our full recommendation is included in a submission for record that was submitted earlier today so I urge the town board to take a look at that the existing maximum GFA allowance formula of 10 + 16 has enabled the extreme Development Across all parcel sizes and degradation of Natural Resources neighborhood character affordability and threatens the sustainability of our town the super sizing development Trends are not compatible with the eastampton comprehensive plan and the 7 plus 13 proposal that we support is the minimum change necessary to the max maximum GFA allowance to just now begin to address environmental and Community challenges and sustain and sustainability in a way that starts to align with the goals objectives and priorities of the comprehensive plan large houses consume more resources energ and energy have

100bigger carbon Footprints higher greenhouse gas emissions than houses of smaller and more moderate size larger houses have more negative impact on the land and contribute more to water quality deterioration habitat loss and infrastructure strain in 2022 there was a global uh status report for building and construction and it stated that built environment accounts for 37% of global CO2 emissions and locally that has the single biggest impact on our sustainability here in East Hampton we see that firsthand with overdevelopment threatening affordability for full-time residents and our seasonal Workforce in conclusion I'd just like to uh remind everyone that a prior uh Town board attempted to follow through on making changes they proposed and knew necessary but was pressured by development and real estate interest we urge this town board to make to not make the same

101mistake the time is now doing less than now as in the 7 plus 15 in the public hearing notice undermines our built environment and it's compatibility with ecological environmental imperatives for each 100 square foot increase you make the formula's efficacy to shift the curve and address the threats decreases man thank you thank you Paul is there anyone else that would like Gloria k good evening thank you so much for being here everyone I'm Gloria fry I am here in East Hampton I'm uh I've been thinking about the coming Generations which is what's really important here besides what we do and uh as many of you know I along with other re Wilders on Long Island spend a lot of our time working with with community members and especially young people empowering them to take care

102of our environment and to protect what our resources and to Rew to reinvigorate what we have um just when I think I'm leading by example and teaching them they show me how much they care about our environment this past summer we had 20 High School interns who did more than 1,200 hours of community service it's for them that we need to pass a reduction in GFA and uh it's so important thinking about previous generations my home was built in 1924 uh it was home to the Gail family parents and uh their four children it's 1750 Square fet it's got a living room dining room kitchen Office Den two bathrooms four bedrooms and what we haven't really talked about is a great yard it's got a flower Garden a vegetable garden space for the Thanksgiving football

103game um not that I play football but I've have hosted and had my in-laws niece and her family nephew and his family with one plus two children each and they're fishermen so we've gone fly fishing fly casting in the side yard there is room for that so the outdoor space on our lot is also a space looking even further back uh Century or so um there is the Irish phrase blessing may you have enough may you have enough what is enough um there is something called the honic treadmill the more you get the more you want oh just an extra bedroom oh just an extra space for that just an extra it's never enough and I think we need to get off that hedonic treadmill we need to look at what is enough how are

104we looking at the space not just inside our home but outside our home when I grew up my mother would say go outside and play it wasn't go to the playroom and play with all of your stuff like oh here's a magnifying glass go look at what's happening in in the grass go look at what's what's flying around here's a pair of binoculars check out the birds this is what we need to preserve for future Generations we need to lead by example thank you Gloria we're gonna we're gonna go to the lines there's just two people on the line Matt Matthew if you could put the the next two callers through okay great um I'm muting uh caller last four digits 3524 hello you're on the line hear hello oh great great hi this is

105Kathy Cunningham calling um sorry not to be able to be there in prison tonight but not 100% and I'm speaking this evening as a private citizen in support of this effort I really want to tip my hat to um Deputy supervisor uh Rogers for leading this effort and thank the town board for the opportunity for com uh comment um it was was my great honor and privilege to serve our town for seven years on the planning board three as Vice chair and another three on the ARB at to as chair and during that time my colleagues and I saw not only an increase in the dimensional size of homes but a huge increase in the intensification of use of properties that came before us including lots of accessory buildings structures and amenities and I realized

106there are a number of industries that fear this proposal and I understand their point of view however the goal of reducing house size and controlling massing has a long history in the town memorialized in our comp plan and town code which requires buildings to be compatible with the historic and neighborhood character of a particular Hamlet or district and I have to say every time limit on house size which equates to profit is introduced the real estate and Construction Industries cry out that it will damage those Industries irreparably we heard it with the community preservation fund program among other Environmental initiatives including vital water quality improvement projects requiring upgraded septic systems as well as the last time the town board tried to sensibly limited house size and the evidence is clear it makes no difference whatsoever

107prices for homes and land are at an all-time high and none of the previous regulations made a dent in anyone's profits period the town wisely declared itself the climate smart Community adopting a climate action plan in 2017 acknowledging how vulnerable our Coastal Community is to those impacts particularly sea level rise house size reduction regulations align with those goals as well reducing house size reduces carbon emissions a win-win for our community we have a unique opportunity at this moment to make a real contribution to the future of this remarkable place and for the future of our children and grandchildren I would like to be able to look at my grandchildren in the eye and say in all honesty I did everything I possibly could to make it better that opportunity is before this board now more

108than any period in our history now is the time to make consequential change please Hue to our comprehensive plan strengthen the code to limit house sizes to 7% of lot size plus, 1300 Square ft please keep the hearing open for more public comment show us the democratic government can work at this time when the national conversation makes so little sense please recognize how important this is please enact the vision of our comp plan and give us faith that government works thank you thank you [Applause] Kathy you could put the last caller through mat okay uh phone number ending in 4233 on muting [Music] hi good evening good evening hi my name is Bob Lan and I'm a registered architect I'm born and raised in Monto grew up in a Carl Fisher house uh no heat

109on the second floor that's where my bedroom was um where right now I can appreciate what the town is doing right now in trying to bring down the growth floor area but I don't believe you can do a solid brush stroke straight across the board on all properties throughout the entire town um over the past 10 years I've worked extensively in monok and most of the properties I work on are 10,000 square ft um the and a lot of the properties I've worked on have required for me to use the 161 16 rule some of those properties are around 7,200 ft if I were to use today's building standards of 10 and 16 I could get a 2300t house on that property if I go on S and 13 I'd have an 1,800 foot house

110on that property where I'm losing 500 square fet I appreciate the the size changes in housing but I don't know if we can do a straight brush stroke right across the board I think you have to look at sizes of properties I know talk born and raised there I understand the size of the Lots out there and there are no not many what they consider large acreage Lots out there so I thank you very much for your time and have a good evening we have one more caller on the line I just want to make sure that they had a chance to make comments they might not have mat we couldn't hear you say that again please there's there's one caller that's been hanging around I have the number crossed off but uh they might

111not have had a chance they might have you know so I'm going to put them through okay uh caller uh number ending in 0428 I'm going to unmute you no I spoke earlier uh 0428 Jeffrey palmo mon talk uh I just want to add one quick thing um the people we going to scare away or the people who have the smaller size lot homes in these towns these are the people who drive the ambulance as a ER to take it to the hospital these are the people who work in the fire department as volunteers to put the fires out when there's an emergency um these are the people who are nurses these are the people who own small businesses in town these are the people who you wait on the tables during the summer season

112these are the people we're going to lose and if we're not careful with this and the environment one day no one's going to want to come out here the the people at these mega mansions God forbid if there's a bad hurricane they'll just buy they'll just buy another piece of property elsewhere and build another huge house and just leave the place in Ruins thank you thank you [Applause] Jeffrey that's it for the callers okay great thank you welcome Katie thank you it's a long night we're not done yet but it's okay that's we here for uh I am Katie Casey I live in the Freetown area East Hampton North um and I'm just speaking as a private citizen though I know a little something about the housing market here um I want to say there

113are no villains in this discussion there are no bad guys there are different interests and I appreciate the Civil discourse um we the people here here we are in a little bit of a bubble and I want to acknowledge those people that are not in the room 20% of this town it is um are essentially my clients in one form or another at one time or another um all things are relative we talk about assets and Investments and maximizing and fiduciaries and llc's I would venture to Guess that everybody in this room owns property I might be wrong but a lot of people don't own property and um you know again all things are relative it doesn't matter how long I've been here when I bought my house where I went to school we if

114if we're here speaking we care about the town I only recognize one person here who I know is born and bred but um you know so I think in this discussion that doesn't matter I have a very modest home it was 850 square feet I raised two teenagers in that house it can be done I'm on0 4 acre as my um you know as my family grew as the kids got older my income um grew all also and I was fortunate enough to be able to renovate my little tear down um so it's three times the size now as it was when I bought it in the 90s I did it incrementally it's plenty big I think this issue of needs versus wants sometimes it turns into uh what I would consider a dog whistle

115modern families or you know what people need is again it's relative if you can't get happy in a 6,000 square foot house you are not going to be happy in an 8,000 square foot house I'm sorry it's just for for those that are occupied the other you know the other discussion is um Investments and wanting to maximize a lot so money is always going to pull in One Direction and the community is pulling in another direction and you as our representatives are are tasked with making the decision and standing you know standing up declaring it and owning it you empowered you empowered a group of very smart people to give you recommendations I agree 7% 1300 square fet is more than enough and the last thing I'll say Gloria my house is also 100 years

116old this year and instead of an Irish invocation I will give you a Greek invocation evonia is a word specific to the Greek language that means enough this is enough thank you thank [Applause] you back there welcome Scott good e good evening everyone thank you um my name is Scott blor I live on the East Hampton side of sag harbor um born and raised here and uh witnessed you know throughout my life certainly a changing character of the entire town um and and not always in a great way there's always positives and there's always negatives I think to development and what that can do for the community um um as a community member myself I feel like it is incumbent on the town to consider people's needs and wants and I think there's always a

117balance with that but I do absolutely support the idea of their 7% plus 1300 square feet I think it makes sense it's common sense for um reasonable living and I come from a point of view of uh sustainability and always the natural environment I kind of always put it um first and foremost in my thinking and I think that more people need to understand that that is our true asset on the East End of Long Island we are a natural Community uh we take pride in our environment and I think that is to me the most important thing so when we have clear cutting of trees that create these uh absolutely unnecessarily large houses I think everyone is actually a net loser in that effect so um I think that it's really important that um

118we do recognize that as the community with enough input and um I commend what you've done in exploring the um changing of the code so I uh appreciate your efforts and I just want to say I think you should go forward with that thank you thank you Scott in the back well welcome um hello there my name is Christina parl um originally I came here with without the intention of speaking but I feel that perhaps our voice isn't really represented in this room so I'd like to join um I'm here as guess the villain I'm a builder a developer uh but I'm also a 10-year resident of East Hampton uh my husband and I are um and his father was also a builder here and around prior to that as well so part of me

119speaking is just to give a human face to uh this industry um you know imagine being told your life's work is greedy or villainous it's it's difficult to hear um and actually I'm a creative uh I take a lot of pride in the architecture and the buildings that we do and I feel like what we built here in this community are homes that I hope to see here in 100 years um I've seen examples of overdevelopment of bad construction of monstrous mcmansions um but I think there's other ways to address those nuances um having an Architectural Review Board uh making sure that you know Sidelines are protected for Neighbors uh being environmentally conscious of clearing of drainage uh all these things are important and things that we're in favor of um just wrote down a

120couple remarks so as I mentioned we're year round residents here uh our friends attend schools here uh the trades we work with are part of this community uh and actually you know create their entire livings based on the industry that my husband and I uh are in um our clients that come here uh if they're only part-time residents are also contributing towards this community have paid taxes have invested in all the restaurants the shops the just pure enjoyment the memories that come with being a seasonal resident here can't be really denied um and I'm also mindful in a resort Community there's a tension between a year- round resident and a seasonal resident uh I mean as a year round resident I appreciate the peace and quiet and Tran Tranquility that we have right now and

121I know soon we'll kind of be overrun but at the same time I think this proposed change doesn't really address that topic um that's all thank you for your time thank you [Applause] CH anyone else like to address cat the St want to join you um good evening uh my name is Katherine delene W um I am a resident here I have been here since I was 5 years old I've enjoyed hearing all the different perspectives here tonight and um everybody has a different point of view on this um I'm an architect so I deal with the zoning code intimately every single day um I do feel this is a little aggressive uh especially as people are are speaking about these smaller Lots um I do think that the sort of backbone of this community

122has been villainized a little bit here tonight The Architects the surveyors the builders there's so many people in this community that rely on the building industry um we raise our children here um and I think Larry Kane had a interest perspective as a compromise between the 7% uh plus 1300 um 8% plus 1600 to me that sounds like a pretty fair compromise in in what we're discussing um I'm a little nervous in seeing the pendulum swing very far in this very conservative Direction um you know my own personal story one of my goals out here is to design and build my own own house [Music] and there's a ton of restrictions in East Hampton um people have brought up clear cutting of trees there's clearing restrictions on every property some of these calculations about how

123big a house is one story versus two story they're checked by building coverage um groundwater there's so many um wonderful things that have been implemented in the town the alternative uh Wastewater for new construction um managing all of the runoff on your site you have to do that if you're doing a new house it's um our town has one of the most Progressive um energy codes in the country and I don't know if everybody's aware of that but I'm proud of that uh being a professional in this town and designing to those codes um with every single code change that does happen there are costs involved there's permitting there's different agencies you have to um address and my selfish goal of wanting to one day uh build a house that I design becomes a further

124reach um hopefully one day I can do it but the costs that go with that every change that happens there there's money that goes to it to put the solar panels on a house um to meet the energy requirements um I know that some sort of change is going to happen I just ask you guys to be respectful of the time that goes into designing these houses we have projects that it takes about a year to get to the point of submitting to a building permit with the various agencies dec's zoning boards um energy consultants and uh just be mindful of the the time and energy that we take in our profession and and getting these things built thank you for your time thank you k [Applause] would anyone else like to address the board

125John welcome John hello my name is John Grant I'm from Springs so um I've known almost all of you for many years um some are for instance High School family friends uh some of you are newer friends and clients of mine maybe former clients tomorrow we'll see um some of you had the pleasure working with in various capacities including governance and different committees so it's shocking to me that this board is considering a nearly 30% reduction in the house size for Halfacre Lots from the pre from the 2016 code 30% and for a 2-acre lot it's a 37% reduction from the 2016 code so in light of these proposed extreme reductions I'm going to read you a definition of what I believe is occurring on this board especially in relation to this issue group think

126group think is a phenomenon that occurs when a group of well-intentioned people makes nonoptimal decisions spurred by the urge to conform or the belief that dissent is discouraged or difficult the premature consensus that is characteristic of group think may be fueled by particular agenda or may be due to group members valuing Harmony and coherence above critical thought so at the December 5th meeting I believe there was some discussion uh David you felt that the the the 10,000 square foot cap was going too far uh Mr flight I haven't had the pleasure of meeting you yet that's NE the one person my office love to you had a concern that the uh options having a staircase that's parallel to the house instead of perpendicular would be unnecessarily harsh but now we're slashing house size nearly 30%

127and 37% respectively from the 2016 code so I would think that that is Harsh sir the proposed reduction is obviously capricious and it's evidenced that you have a solution looking for a problem at the December 5th meeting the super advisor stated that we've just closed the loopholes in the zoning code so we've made a lot of impactful changes already so I'm asking I'm begging that the board takes a pause and allow the substantial changes that have already been made to take effect and evaluate their impact I'm asking the board to be present not vote present I'm asking the board to think not group think thank you thank you [Applause] John Matthew if you want to let that caller uh sure okay I'm muting a caller uh phone number ending in 3188 hi am I on

128yes okay hi this is uh Liz Miller I am a resident of Springs I have lived here my whole life I grew up out here um I'm as local as they come and I'm just I'm watching this and I'm getting so frustrated because I feel like people are just missing an entire group of individuals out here like you know I heard the woman say that if you live in 6,000 square feet you won't be happy in 8,000 100% I agree with that of course that is the case we're not trying to build 6,000 foot houses we don't have lots that allow that we have tiny little lots that have tiny little homes and we need to be able to make them livable this makes it nearly impossible I don't want to be a broken record

129I've said everything already this will push people like me out this will push out people who are young and who want to have families out here and the only thing that is left for us to buy are small houses on more lots and if this passes it inhibits what we can do so much I also don't understand this sticking point with the garage thing and the basement thing some people don't want that so let them use that space for livable space there it just seems like a my voice and people who are with me on this uh issue aren't really being heard it feels like everyone's focusing on the Mansions The Mansions the mansions we don't want the Mansions either we're we're fine with that go after them but there's got to be some sort

130of solution that leaves us alone or just adjust it a little bit to make it more workable for us there are already a lot of rules in place there's already so many things that we're not allowed to do or have to conform to this or do it this way we're trying to make it work out here don't pass something else that makes it even harder for us that's really all I have to say than you [Applause] would anyone else like to address the board Paul welcome Paul hello my name is Paul Massie um I'll try not to be repetitive but I do know a bit about the zoning code and I'd like to speak more from a personal perspective so my wife and I built a home in East Hampton where we've uh raised our

131three children our children went through the school system and two of them are now in college um our last is in high school our property is just shy of a half acre and our home is approximately 3,000 square ft while we did not max out the current allowable square footage we did use every square inch while raising our children just as some some of our children are moving out to go to college we now have our nephew living with us he's employed at a local business and is facing the realities that there's nowhere to live that's affordable while I'm sure he enjoys our company he would rather find his own place we hope that he's able to stay with us for as long as he can until he can save enough money for his own

132accommodations my fear though is just like many other young graduates and I've heard this time and time again they'll give up and move to other communities this is not good for our community to have an unbalanced demographic many children who grew up in East Hampton that move back they do live with their parents and I'm afraid with these proposed zoning changes it'll make it difficult or prohibitive and these are a core residents that we want to live out here if the current GFA formula is enacted our house would have had one less bedroom and I don't think we would have been able to accommodate our extended family which support the community well mostly I'm referencing smaller lots and and I think because it applies to our friends in the community I'm not saying I oppose

133a reduction and I think there could be a solution but it's not a blanket GFA formula because this adversely affects smaller Lots rather than the larger Lots many of the sorry many of the local residents who are working and raising their families live on these smaller properties and I feel strongly if a change is made to the GFA Zone zoning it should be done on a sliding scale depending on the property size or creating zoning districts with different GFA regulations this method is already being used in the town to determine other Zing parameters we need the diversity in the demographics of the people living here to be a healthy community and I hope that you take this under consideration so thank you thank you [Applause] Paul would anyone else like to speak um Aaron wild

134um I've heard it called a a rebalancing and I I respect the the need to address the public outcry something needs to be done there needs to be a compromise reach but I don't feel that 30% is a compromise that's that's a big ask that's a big change in a time of massive government changes let's look at incremental changes please um the even at the 7% and 15 100 ft that would be a 20 a 16% reduction on a quarter acre a 20% reduction on a half acre 24% reduction on a a full acre that's a a big change and when especially when it affects the value of people's homes and their properties so I understand the the need to do something but I hope for a more incremental change as opposed to something this

135aggressive thank you thank you [Applause] I'm sorry I'm Pat I'm sorry we're everybody speaks once we're gonna see if I didn't know I'm sorry that's okay that's okay all right okay anyone else like to address the board phone okay motion to close check the phone Matt is there any Matthew is there anyone else on the line no we have no additional callers I'll just okay I removed my motion uh my name is Matt Burns uh I live at 41 Harbor Ulan in Springs and I I'm a lifelong resident here uh I'm in opposition to the pro proposal or not fully I just think there should be some sliding scale I'm on a point 24 acre lot and I think the proposal would drastic Al affect my ability to expand or or build new I love

136the character in my house and you know honestly I would like to keep it but my wife and I just had a baby she you know she's 6 months old it's 1100 square F feet and the re only reason we really bought this place was because it what we could afford at the time and I think that's uh I think that's the same situation for a lot of locals our goal here is to stay here we grew up here and we love our community but when we buy these small houses the end goal is to expand because generally it's hard to live in these older homes this reduction seems like it's excessive for the smaller homeowners it seems the original Target was for the very large mcmansions and intended to curb that excess our small

137RS don't allow for the excess that you're trying to curb I think I also think you know these this reduction it's going to make these bigger homes you know they're going to be worth a lot more money and I think it's going to I feel like there's a lot of talks about affordability I think that's going to make things more expensive um I don't think Lots under half an acre should have to build less than what they currently are um and I hope you consider that thanks thank you we just got another caller on the line Matthew if you want to put them through please okay uh unmuting caller with number ending in 0976 good evening my name is Lori delene my husband and I live in the springs good evening supervisor Burke Gonzalez and

138board members when we arrived in East Hampton over 40 years ago in our young 20s we were fortunate to be able to live and work here as well as raise our growing family being native long Islanders we weren't moving to the Hampton we were just moving to the Eastern end of Long Island where the quality of life was exceptional a bit less expensive in those days and the natural beauty had captured us since our youth but of course we all know that as time moved on our Eastern Community has experienced extraordinary CH changes which has affected most all of our lives in one way or another but certainly has impacted our real estate values many of our younger community members whether they are single a couple or young family are absolutely struggling to stay on

139our beautiful East End we have a tight-nit community who are invested in the East End life These are those who grew up here or married someone who did and wouldn't think of leaving they are working in businesses that contribute to the rhythm of our eastn life or are in a supporting role to provide all that is necessary for our successful continuing progress as a community I would respectfully ask that you weigh the scales and keep in balance and perspective the choice between preserving the land as we have it or preserving the people we have we need these people to stay they are the people that are the are continuing to strive to live here and are all already committed they are invested in the lifestyle and they are already sacrificing to stay whether it is

140with high rent living with a relative or struggling to meet all the criteria and monetary burden necessary to build or renovate these are good citizens and will continue to contribute and be a positive force for the future of our community this is our next Generation thank you for allowing me to speak thank you laori [Applause] we're going to go one more time anyone else in the room like to address the board okay motion to close second all in favor I I thank you all for coming out we'll take a a couple minute break I chances are you're not going to want to stay for the next five public hearings take care hi good to see you [Music] press is yeah call come on guys two you Tony the Press is leaving we have more hearings

141more hearings something big could breaken something big could break in our next yearing there he is there he is as a young puppy okay I'll text you Chris if it's a big one Penny's great take care she's coming back soon though I hear okay let's do this yes uh well I'm sorry Tony Tony we're continuing our meeting we're we're live on the mic Carol if you could please read the second meeting notice notice here by giving Town Board of the town of eastampton will hold a public hearing at Town Hall 159 panle Road eastampton on Thursday March 6 6 p.m. or as soon thereafter as this matter may be heard to consider comments of all people with regard to the amendment of chapter 255 zoning of the East H town code in order to amend

142sections 2551 141d 2551 141 M1 K13 and 255 730h and abstra of which follows a local law amending chapter 2551 141d unacceptable applications for personal wireless service facilities one an application for site plan review and or special permit for a personal Ser wireless service facility may or may not be accepted by the building inspector planning director or any other representative of the town of East Hampton if the applicant owns any other use structure or facility in the town of eastampton that has not received proper certificates of occupancy and or building permits in accordance with this chapter D the owner of the property or the owner of the structure to which the personal wireless service facility is proposed for attached has not receive proper certificates of vacy for building permits in accordance with this chapter for

143any other property or structure of which one or more personal wireless service facilities is lawfully or unlawfully attached acceptance of such application shall be determined by the building inspector planning director or any other representative in the town of eastampton by the applicant's proof of path of compliance to correct any and all lack of certif KS of occupancy building permits and or payments of outstanding tax or re B an applicant denied submission for such application May appeal such denial to the zoning border of appeals with in 30 days of such denial a local law amending chapter 255 m1k 13 activities requiring Architectural Review Board review the planning board shall submit tier three applications for site plans for personal wireless service facilities to the Architectural Review Board a local law amending chapter 255 730h personal wireless service

144facilities the planning board shall submit tier three applications for site plans for personal wireless service facilities to the Architectural Review Board the full text to local law is available for inspection at the office of the town clerk 159 pan and gr Road East stampton during regular business hours thank you Carol uh since we have no one in the room uh I'm going to turn to Matthew is there anyone on the line for this public hearing we have no callers on the line Second all in favor Carol if you could please read the third beating notice please take notice that the town board hereby directs that a public hearing shall be held on March 6 at 6: p.m. or soon thereafter as this matter may be heard at the East hampon Town Hall 159 bico Ro

145East tampon to hear any in all persons either for or against a local law entitled a local law providing for the amendment of chapter 240 vehicles and traffic section 24 27.2 paid parking of the town code of the town of eastampton to expand Provisions for paid parking within the town to the Kirk Park Beach parking lot in Monto altic Avenue Beach parking lot in amaganset and designated areas along South Emerson Avenue in Monto thank you Carol Matthew is there anyone on the line we have no caller motion to close second all in favor I Carol if you could please read the fourth meeting notice notice is hereby given the town Board of the town of East Hampton will hold a Town hall9 panagal Road East Hampton on Thursday March 16th at 6:m or as soon

146thereafter as this matter may be heard for the purpose of considering a proposed contract with the Amiga fire district for fire protection emergency Ambulance Service to be furnished by the amig of fire district to the town of East Hampton for the promised land Fire Protection District for the calendar year 2025 upon the following general terms the amig at fire district shall answer and attend all calls and said promis land Fire Protection District for fire protection and emergency service in the case of accidents canes and other emergencies and general ambulance service for the promised land Protection District for such Services during the 12 12 month period the amig against a fire district shall pay the sum of $59,750 for 2025 payable on before March 1st 2025 thank you Matthew is there anyone on the line we

147have no callers motion to close second all in favor I Carol if you could read the fifth meeting notice please please take notice that pursuant to section 247 the general Municipal law the state of New York and the provisions of East Hamp town code the town Board of the town of East Hampton will hold a public Hearing in the town hall meeting room 159 panle Road East Hampton on March 6 at 6 pm. or soon thereafter this matter may be heard to conf concerning the following Grant of Scenic and conservation ement to the town of East Hampton the gr tourist Joe Ryan and James C kushna to Scenic and conservation easement dated January 11th at three Hedges Avenue in eastampton suffa County tax map 300 at 1413 32.1 urp number 65 and Ur map eh7

148the reviewing agency is the town board Matthew we have no callers motion to close second all in favor I Carol if you could please read the last meeting notice please take notice that pursuant to section 247 the general Municipal law the state of New York and the provisions of the East Hamp town code the town Board of the town of East Hampton will hold a public Hearing in the town hall meeting room9 Panago Road East Hampton on Thursday March 6 6: p.m. or soon thereafter this matter may be heard concerning the filing Grant of Scenic and conservation easement to the town of eastampton the grantor is 22 Shore Road LLC it's a Scenic and conservation easement dated December 8th 24 the location is 22 Shore Road nans suff County tax map 300 13187 and the

149reviewing agency is the CBA Matthew is there anyone on the line we have no callers motion close second all in favor I okay so that wraps up our public hearings for this evening we now move on to public portion as I said uh the room has cleared from a standing room only uh earlier for the first hearing Matthew is there anyone on the line for the Public Public portion we have no callers for the public portion okay so we're going to move now to resolutions council member flight you're up thank you madam supervisor first resolution for tonight is 20125 357 this is a warrant approval for Warrant number 3A uh we're going to approve uh claims in the amount of [Music] 1,634 197 for 2024 payes and 10,224 n288 for 25 uh pbl um as

150well as $3,920 .94 for 2024 PES and $814 for 2025 PES second all in favor uh 358 is a public notice this is to um adopt a fee schedule for the eastampton town landfill for 2025 second all in favor I 359 is a notice to biders for Eh 25008 this is for the supply and delivery uh Food Service kitchen wear items and miscellaneous foods for March 2025 um bids are available March 13th 2025 and are due back March 2725 at 3 pm they're available from the purchasing department um that's it second all in favor I 360 uh is to retain fpm group uh for landfill monitoring Services fpm Group is hereby retained to perform groundwater and methane monitoring services at the Springs fireplace Road Landfill and The Monto landfill for 2025 um retroactive to Jan

1511st 2025 at a cost not to exceed $504 21 for The Monto landfill and 497578 for the Springs fireplace roadland second all in favor 361 is for an organic facilities monitoring and Reporting uh be resolved the fpm group is hereby retained to provide professional Engineering Services for the organic facilities monitoring and Report proposal at a cost not to exceed $17,542 76 second all in favor I 362 to his amend resolution 2025 345 this is for the Christina Schultz payout um there's a change in the amount owed for health and dental vision so the final payout will now be $127 125 second all in favor I 363 is to accept uh a change order for the open go contract for additional software for 2025 be resolved that supervisor should accept an execute change order from open

152gov for an additional cost of $7,200 second all in favor I'm happy to be able to present resolution 2025 364 this is notice of public hearing to amend chapter 240 vehicles and traffic the East Hampton Town code section 68 schedule 17 time limit parking and section 79 schedule 29 of permit parking the public hearing for this will be held on March 20th at 6 p.m. second all in favor you good with your Roman numerals like Olympics 365 appoint lifeguards the preseason training for 2025 effective March 1st 2025 Tanner Smith Lieutenant guard at $29.12 second all in favor I uh 366 is a point part-time recreational employee effed March 6 2025 LC Nelson Recreation Aid $17.85 Second all in favor 367 is a provisional appointment to environmental analyst Adam th uh an aquaculture Department an hourly

153rate of $35.25 hourly sorry annual salary of $733 second all in favor 368 is a a payment upon retirement for Stanley Bennett uh the total gross uh payout for Mr Bennett is $ 75,7 769 as his final payout I want to thank Mr Bennett for his Decades of service to the town of second all in favor I I oh I uh 369 is a pay pound re retirement to uh George kusanovic excuse me uh total gross payout is $ 42,46 payable to George uh and thank you again for his length of service to the town of sampton and Recreation second all in favor I uh 378 is pay upon resonation for Richard Williams uh the payment amount is $82.4 second all favor I 371 as a 2025 budget modification for snow removal what we're bringing

154from budget line for some subcontractor cost in the amount of $25,000 and full-time salaries in the amount of $25,000 to the budget line snow removal supplies in the amount of $50,000 second all in favor I apologize 372 is to retain wallbridge surveyors the amount for for uh a survey sorry for a proposal dated February 13 2025 to prepare surveys for properties and underwater lands in Lake montalk at a cost of $4,400 for the proposal dated on February 13th 20125 second all in favor 373 is uh R rfp2 13 107 is the terminate and resend the license uh for agricultural land at Stony Hill for to s and soil I do make have to make an amendment to this under the financial impact is not 35,000 the financial impact is $1,750 second is amended all in

155favor I I have resolution uh 374 this is to schedule public hearing notice a public hearing for a grant of Scenic and conservation eement on at uh 49 East Lake Drive Monto the town board will hold a public hearing uh on Thursday Ur March 20th in this matter to uh uh uh concern the following Grant of Scenic and conservation easement to the town of East Hampton the Grant T is a April Taylor location is 419 East Lake Drive Monto the reviewing agency is the zoning board of appeals second all in favor resolution 375 is to schedule public hearing uh for Grant of Scenic and conservation easement at three Miller Avenue in Monto uh this public public hearing will be held on Thursday March 20th at 6:00 p.m. The Grand Tour is Ellen fine again it's

156at 3 Miller Avenue mon talk reviewing agency is the zoning board of appeals second all in favor I resolution 376 is a notice of public hearing to amend chapter 62 civil enforcement and administrative audification the town board will hold a public hearing on Thursday March 20th 2025 at 6: p.m. uh to consider a local law providing for the amendment of chapter 62 civil enforcement and administrative ad beautification of the town code and this is to change a requirement that in the event of a default decision and order the penalty or penalty and penalty imposed that judgment may be entered in town justice court or equivalent court or municipality or other place provided for the entry of civil judgments within the state of New York and um the entry of such judgment may be avoided by

157request ing a state of default for show of good cause or by requesting a hearing or entering a plea in the matter set forth in the notice of violation within 30 days of mailing such notice second all in favor I resolution uh 377 is a notice of public hearing to amend urban renewal map SP 1-1 urban renewal parcel 32 and this is to amend a Scenic easement requirment and move a uh access point the town board will hear this matter on March 3rd public hearing at 6m second wait a minute what did you say it this is to move an access point it's for uh Urban renewable map number 32 and SP 1-1 and this is to remove the access to require uh uh to change the requirements for the scenic easement uh reduce it

158um and yeah we got confused as you said the public hearing was on March 3rd and that's did I yeah so you meant March 20th yeah me March 20th that's where I got confused okay okay second all in favor I uh resolution 378 is to amend urban renewal map uh mn-6 urban renewal parcel 28c and this is again to relocate an access point on an urban renewal parcel uh the town board held a public hearing on um October 3rd I was getting ahead of myself to consider a modification of an urban renewal map mn6 of the town's urban renewal plan to re uh to relocate the access point for urban renewal parcel number 28c the town board finds the proposed modifications to be reasonable appropriate and in keeping with the urban renewal plans in which

159it is located resolve that the town board hereby approves the proposed modification which is listed as follows second all in favor I resolution 379 is to refund uh of an incorrect fee charge for rental registry number 24- 896 resolved that the bookkeeper is hereby authorized to issue a check in the amount of $200 to Adam boxer care of the U ubu Gallery um in Brooklyn second all in favor I uh 380 is to accept a road widening easement uh in urban renewal parcel 16 in sp-41 the Board of the town of Beast Hampton has re uh adopted urban renewal plans covering lot layout and improvements for old file areas the plan calls for a submission of easements by certain Property Owners uh for the purpose of Permitting widening and other Road improvements resolve that uh

160the town board approves and accepts these easements and directs the town clerk to return the easements to the grant tour for recording um resolve that the grantor uh is to return a conform copy of said easement to the town clerk prior to the issuance of a certificate of occupancy the grantor of the easements is air van holes LLC and uh this is located at 37 garders Lan in Springs it's a road widening easement and it's dated February 18th 2025 second all in favor I resolution 381 is to accept security and undertaken undertaking for JMP surfite LLC this is urban renewal parcel 24 um and mn6 and un likee the previous resolution this has to do with the urban renewal plans governing the development of old file Maps again it has to do with the timely

161construction of roads and drainage within the urban renewal area and this is whereas the under uh taking of security has been reviewed by the Council of the planning board resolved that the undertaking of the security together with uh the undertaking with the together with the following security are hereby accepted by the town the applicant is JMP surfite LLC care of ktie O Casey East End land planning this the location of this uh property is at 117 Fairview Avenue in Monto and the security for this undertaking is $1 15,250 second all in favor 382 is a release of security in urban renewal parcel 9 and E4 and resolved that the following security held by the town board is hereby released and the town clerk is directed to return the same to the principal Party named herein

162this is for B uh bistrian cement Court care of patri Patrick fan and it's for a property located at 69 Harborview Avenue in East Hampton second all on favor I and I'm sorry yeah the amount is 14,500 Just for information uh 383 is special event permit fees as of March 7th 2025 whereas the provision visions of chapter 151 special event permits set forth certain fees that shall be required to apply for and process a permit for special events uh which fees are to be established and amended from time to time by resolution of the Town board therefore be it resolved that the following fee schedule is adopted and will become effective on March 7th and shall remain effective until Modified by further resolution of this board the total fee uh SCH is listed below second

163all in favor I I resolution 384 this is a list appointment to assessment Aid Timothy English in an hourly rate of 28 uh and 11 which is $ 51,1 15947 annually for a 35h hour work week um this is effective retroactive of February 24th 2025 second all in favor I resolution 385 this is to authorize mileage reimbursement for the office of Housing and Community Development velopment uh for Linda Norris Anne Bell and Jenny Muno uh be hereby reimbursed for appropriate mileage at the standard mileage rate effective retroactively to February 1st 2025 upon properly submitted vouchers and documentation second all in favor I I resolution 386 this is the authorized payment for p due invoice Advanced Imaging systems for the office of Housing and Community Development is to approve a payment of $101.1 to Advance Imaging

164Systems Inc for the monthly maintenance and copy count second all in favor I I resolution 387 notice to bids bid number e25009 19 Joshua Edwards Court roof and door replacement the bid is available from March 13th 2025 and it'll be due back April 10th 2025 at 3m. a pre-bid meeting will be held at 11:00 a.m. on Wednesday March 26 2025 at 19 Joshua Edwards Court East Hampton New York attendance is encouraged but not mandat second all in favor I I resolution 388 accept bid number eh25 d06 Springs Park restoration test plot Jackson dods and Company Inc uh this is a a bid of Jack toward a bid to Jackson dods and Company uh for a total cost of 23,100 $12 sorry Tom that was a weird inflection that's okay um funny how we listen for

165each other move for discussion sorry on this one just quickly this is for the dog park what the park Springs Park okay got you got you um what is the timing for this happening do you know this test plot uh imminently what department of um Land Management recommended that we do the project in March to avoid accidental takings of animals that might be in the area when they come back and it warms up also the the trees are all dead and leafless right now and so it's clear what you're doing the work and there be minimal sort of bar and state As Leaves will be coming out in the springtime so this was the timing recommended by that department okay all right all in favor I uh resolution 389 this is the authorized shed removal

166at 54 tub Orman Road um this is to approve hiring Ronald web Builders to demolish and remove a shed and dogghouse at 54 tub Orman Road for an amount not to exceed $1,982 46 second all in favor I I have resolution 20 25 390 and that's to appoint part-time office assistant to fire prevention marinez baros at the hourly rate of $254 effective March 10th second all in favor I 391 is to amend hourly rates for part-time office assistance to reflect the 2025 hourly rate increases and this is effective March 9th 2025 second all in favor I 392 is to proove EXT approve extension of resolution 2024 1257 the hearing officer Robert J Ponzi Esquire for a disciplinary matter with no change in rate second all in favor I 393 is to approve a payment uh

167for a hearing appearance for Christopher Anderson in the amount of $1 13287 second all in favor I 394 is a joint Municipal bidding agreement with Eastern suff bosis uh Jeanie cor Roa spoke to us about this at the work session on Tuesday and it's in the amount of $3,264 for the 2025 rate second all in favor 395 is the 2025 budget modification for the town Attorney's office we're moving $280 from health insurance buyback $425 from health insurance to travel conferences and dues in the amount of $75 second all in favor I 396 is to accept bid eh25 d005 printing of miscellaneous forms for February 2025 and it goes to tsg direct LLC second all in favor I 397 is to approve a stipulation of settlement second all in favor I 398 is to approve an

168annual stien for Ed Edward Schnell to perform duties related to Information Technology specifically for the East Hampton Town Police Department in the amount of $12,500 effective retroactive to January 1st 2025 second all in favor 3.99 is a payout upon retirement for Ryan Hogan Ryan Hogan has retired from his full-time position as a detective Sergeant with the East Hampton Town Police Department effective January 31st 2025 and audited time records indicate that he has an acred vacation time ACR sick time and ACR personal time plus he has holiday pay and pro-rated two two tour night differ Ral for a gross total of $133,700 54 payable to Ryan Hogan as a final payout and we thank detective Sergeant Hogan for his service to our community second in here here all in favor I 400 is a payout upon

169retirement for darthy Peele darthy Peele has retired from her position of account clerk with the Department of Marine Patrol effective January 31st 2025 and audited time records indicate that she is accured vacation time acred sick and personal time and an acred comp compensatory time plus she's got pro-rated longevity for a gross total of $695 185 payable to darthy Peele as a final payout and again we thank Dorothy for her commitment to our town second all in favor I 2025 401 is to adopt 2025 Capital plan the town board has discussed the draft Capital plan for the fiscal year 2025 at the February February 18th and March 4th work sessions and the board has discussed and approved the plan as presented on March 4th so now the town board hereby adopts the 2025 Capital plan for

170for a total of 13, 43,4 second all in favor I 402 is to retain coie LLP for airport matters for 2025 in an amount not to exceed $250,000 second all in favor uh 403 is to authorize 2025 funding for R RFP eh22 24109 this is professional consulting services for continued remedial investigation of the airport class 2 inactive hazardous way site in the amount of $364,000 second all in favor I I have two for off the deadline uh 404 is to list the appointment Office application specialist Susan reading uh be it resolve that Susan reading is hereby appointed the full-time position Office application specialist within the IT department the alley rate of $274 for an annual salary of $7,300 for a 40-hour work week to be paid by-weekly second all in favor 2025 405 is for

171Professional Services uh this is to retain elay mlan Associates for design uh services at the sanitation department for hazardous waste collection second all in favor I right that's all we have uh does any anyone have anything they need to bring up before we close I I do want to say Matthew it was a busy night tonight and we really want to thank you uh for your assistance oh my pleasure was a lot of fun thanks man so do I have a motion to close motion to close SEC oh second all in favor thank you everyone sorry car