Board of Education Meeting-Tuesday Feb. 10th 2026

001I thought it was comparison. >> No, >> remember last last time we had half of an agenda. >> There we go. >> Thank you. Aha, I found it. You are thrilled. Good evening. I call this meeting to order. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Good evening everyone. >> Thank you for joining us. Please be advised in the event of a fire emergency, an alarm will sound. Please note all emergency exits and evacuate well away from the building. At this time, we request everyone please turn your cell phones to silence and thank you for your cooperation. We will start with additions, deletions,

002and changes to the agenda. I do not believe there are any. Is that correct, Dr. >> That's correct. >> So, we're moving on to consent agenda. Consent agenda. Resolve that the board of education upon the recommendation of the superintendent approve the consent agenda items as listed 1 through nine. May I have a motion, please? >> I'll make it. >> Motion by Mike. Second. >> Second by Peggy. All in favor say I. >> Any opposed? That motion is carried. 60. We're going to move to communications. We are going to change it up a little for Mr. McDonald who has to be in Pemrook right after this at another board meeting and we want to make sure he can speak to them as well. So, we're going to put you first on our agenda. you were third,

003but if you want to step up and talk to us, we would appreciate that. >> Well, first, thank you. No pressure for moving up to the top of the agenda. Nice to see folks that uh that I got to work with through the search. And for the new folks, my name is Kevin McDonald, district superintendent, Tennessee Valley. I'm here tonight to talk to you about a proposed capital project that we've been working on um and really kind of had an idea of from the day I took this job back 13 years ago. Um we had a capital project. So, the Boseies merged in '94. Um, and since 94 we've had one capital project of $39 million that was approved in '05. The work was done 06 and '07. Um, so a lot of our mechanicals,

004a lot of our infrastructure is just old, either end of life or ending uh warranties are ending. So there's a lot of mechanical work. There's a lot of, you know, windows and lentil repair and brick pointing and those types of things. uh rooftop units, roofing, um all of that's stuff, right, that you have to do on a regular basis. The challenge with a Boseis project is um we the only way we raise revenue is from our component districts through our administrative budget and then through programs. So the only way for us to finance a project is two ways. We borrow from Dazzy, which I'll talk about a little bit more, or we do what's called an intermunicipal agreement, which is a contract with each district. Okay. Um, and in both cases, the districts make the

005payments for the project. So, I'm here to talk a little bit about scope, a little bit about finance, hopefully answer your questions. If I can't answer it tonight, I can get you that answer, get it back to Becky or and come back. So, with that, talk a little bit about um scope. Um, but I do want to talk a little bit about maybe rationale too. How did we get here today? So we did the project in05 that was done through the dormatory authority of the state of New York. So basically what that is that's the only way a boseis can borrow. So that's almost like just borrowing your mortgage. We go to DSNY we borrow the money we roll out the payments for the districts over 20 years and they make the payments. Okay. So

006that project is going to be coming off the books here shortly. Um so obviously that that will come off the books and we're hoping to roll another project on the books. The other reason is, and you folks have gone through this, I'm sure, is we have to do what's called a building condition survey per the state of New York. And when you do that survey, it really sets some priorities for things. We can't do a building project and get it approved at state if we don't address their category number one, uh, health and safety issues, and number two, urgent issues. Those have to be addressed in. So what happened is a number of years ago, probably 12 years ago before that, New York State did all 700 districts building conditions surveys in the same year,

007right? So they all got done. Then guess what happened? They all went to do capital projects and then guess what happened? They all sent those projects to state ed to get approved and then they waited 18 months for approval because there was a backlog of projects going to the state. So what they said, great idea. we're going to do 20% of the districts on a five-year rolling basis. When they did that, we were at year five and they pushed us to year five. So, we went 10 years without a BCS. Okay? So, we didn't have a building condition survey. So, a couple of reasons. One, you got debt service, you got end of life, end of warranty, um you know, rooftop units, roofing, etc. And two, that was the really the the cycle we got

008put on by the department. not blaming them. It just it is what it is and kind of why we ended up here today and maybe how I knew a number of years ago this was probably when we were going to come out and talk to folks. Um so at your table you have folders. Um in the folders there's information on scope, the amount. We're going to talk about that. Um the financing of it. So when you open up the folders on the left and on the right I just I give you the numbers. We're looking at a $42.8 million project in total. Okay. right there on your lot. Thank you. Um when you look at those numbers, you'll see the May Center, you'll see the Betavia campus where many of your kids go and you

009can see the the dollars between the two of them are very close in terms of the amount of investment we're going to make in each building. And then the Leroy Center. So, we'll talk to you about the Leroy Center. The Leroy Center is a building right now that we do not own. We lease um we've leased it since the merger. Um and we're proposing to purchase it as part of this project. Um the payoff is about 5 years. All right. If we were to buy it, the next five years lease payments would we would get to that cost. Okay. We are hoping and might I even say planning um we're working with our landlord on maybe an alternate arrangement because when we buy property and this property in Leroy does not have any kids that

010attend the building. It has our school library systems, the adults that support it. It has our enrichment services, the adults that support it. It has our professional development services, our school improvement that support adults in the region, but kids don't attend the building, so it's not aidable, right? So, you look at a $4 million expense. Cal mom's Bosey's aid might be 74%. So, you might say, well, geez, that's not a bad deal, but there's no aid. So, we're looking for alternate ways to work with our landlord because when we lease space, as we do now, it does get aided. So, >> it's still a five-year payback with that with the agreement in place now to purchase it, the cost advantage would be paid back five years. >> Yes. About five years. Okay. And if if

011we're fortunate enough to get to maybe a lease to own type of thing, um would be the best of both world. Appreciation. >> Yeah. Because B8, right? You'd get your 74 cents on each dollar that's that's Kell Mo's um contribution. So, that would bring the cost of the project down. it would drive the edability of the project down as well. So that's kind of where we are with the project. When you look at our centers, 20 years since any work has really been done, um used to house about a,000 to,50 career tech kids. We now have about 1,450 in the same spaces. We've rented spaces from industry. You know, if any of your kids are in the diesel program, which they are, they're in the Freightlininer building up there in the throughway. We rent space

012from them. Uh she actually built a classroom to spec for us up there. And one of the things we're proposing is to build a new diesel maintenance facility uh right up here that would be a three- bay facility. Two things will happen. We currently pay rent at Freightlininer. We obviously we're going to pay for this, but we no longer pay the rent. And the challenge at Freightlininer right now is our rent probably doesn't compare to the revenue they're generating on a per square foot basis for their space. So we have one bay, right? One bay to do live work. This is going to allow us three bays. And if I can bring up probably a wildly unpopular topic, if we ever were to lease or have an electric bus on our campus and had to

013store it and charge it, >> we don't talk about that. >> Okay. This will be we have a place where we could do that overnight in a protected area. As a Boseies, we don't own any buses. We lease about six buses a year from our component school districts. Okay. Um so our current tech numbers are up. Um we have about 1,700 kids that walk through the building on a daily basis. Both buildings, not each. Um, other than Betavia, we'd be the second largest district of our 22 components. Um, and obviously we're using the same space. We're attracting about 45% of eligible juniors and seniors in the region that are coming to career and tech. Uh, for Cal month, you guys have approximately 37 kids in career and tech. Um, you know, we're working on a

014couple of programs. uh your highest enrolled programs is metal trades which we are going to do some um improvements to the space and the air handling units in our metal trades program. This is the Betavia campus and um down the road we're looking at a cosmetology. We're going to work on a cosmetology at the May Center the first time around and then electromechanical trades is another heavily enrolled program from Calum. So, um, throughout the course of like a generation of K through 12 students, we probably have about 12,000 students that walk through the building. So, in the last 20 years, almost 30 kids have have walked through those or attended class in those buildings. Um, I'm going to pause questions for this process. Certainly, I've engaged with my board. Uh, I've engaged with my team.

015We have about seven superintendents that sat on an advisory committee. Much the way I'm sure Becky and Bob talked to you about how we do our budgets. We do that through committee systems of superintendent. We've done this the same way. Um I can tell you at one point in time the project was probably a little bit less in dollar amount than one of the superintendents said to me, Kevin, those hallways look no different than the day I went here x number of years ago. If you got to upgrade, you know, it's never going to be cheaper than today. It's only going to get more expensive to do the work. I said touche. So, we did put some more work in it, and I'll talk a little bit more about that. When you look at the

016Bavia Center, every purple rectangle is a rooftop unit. Um, when you look over uh this side of the building over here, we're looking at some cooling opportunities, too, because the heat built September and June, if we get into situations where we need some cooling space, we'll have it. When you look at the green both here in building C, which is our alternative ed program, and here, um that's roofing that needs to be torn off and replaced. We did one of those uh x-rays of the roof and found um moisture had um penetrated some of these areas. At the May Center, it's it's significantly less. Um but this will all be again uh warrantied and under warranty for another 20 years at the conclusion of that work. I mentioned to you the diesel facility, mentioned to

017you the uh metal trades. Over here, our auto trades program, good space, big space, dark, dingy. I don't know if any of you, if you've walked into a service department of the dealership lately, but it's bright and white, and there's very little dirt around. We're looking to upgrade that. And then we have walls that divide the space. They are fire rated, so we can't get rid of them, but what we can do is build walls that are fire rated and parts of them are see-through for instructor supervision of students. Um, and then, you know, like I said, rooftop repairs, a cooler replacement, an entrance canopy. Um, all of the pointing, PA system, clock replacement. You I think that's original to the buildings in the 60s, our our clocks and PA systems. So, that's the work

018that we're doing in Betavia. The other big part of Bavia, the big piece for me in terms of safety of kids, parents, buses, bus drivers, is the parking lot. If you've ever had anybody go there during pickup and drop off, what you see here is not what it is now. It's one big rectangle and you got kids walking through buses. You got parents trying to pull up behind buses and drop kids off. So now we'd have a large bus drop off, a small bus drop off, a parent drop off, raised sidewalk, better signage, so on and so forth. It's it's been an accident waiting to happen. So um improvements there and you can see some of the numbers in terms of number of buses and cars and you know we're cutting a little bit into

019the land up here up front. So any other questions on scope at Betavia? I'm showing you Betavia because that's where most of your kids go. We certainly do have some kids at the May Center and I will cruise through that a little bit. Questions? Becky? Anything? Not that >> I'm still good. >> Left out. Okay. Um, when you look in your folder, you'll get on the left hand side, one paper down, you're going to see specific to Kale, some financing numbers, okay? and what the share of the project is going to be for Calon Mer. Interestingly enough, I went back to the $39 million project in 2005 and the difference was $12,000 compared to this one, right? In total. So, if you turn the first page, you'll see highlighted in blue is Calam. You'll see

020how do we determine the district share? We do it by arwatada. I am going to share with you that this number will be updated. Um, but that's your resident weighted average daily attendance. how many kids come here or kids are you providing education to in um you know if you're sending kids out to programs in Rochester and other places right so you're 4% of the total population in the Jese Valley region that 4% comes out to 1.7 million the last project your share was 1.709 when I took when I took a look back >> say that again Kevin 1 >> which one >> current or last in the last project what It was 1.709. >> Thank you. >> Yep. >> When we talk about So, all right, how does Boseies pay for that? How can

021we finance that? And I mentioned two ways. And Becky mentioned to me, you know, we have some board members that have been here a little while and they don't ever remember authorizing the Boseis capital project. And it totally made sense to me. It was a Dazzy project. Um the board actually doesn't have to authorize it. It's a vote of all the 22 components that would authorize it. Right? There were about 1,700 votes cast. It passed about 65% to 35% back in 2005 in December of 2005. So, um I'm sure based on the literature I've seen that somebody came out and presented it and talked to you about it. But when you talk about actually having to take action, the board didn't. Um in this case, I'm actually advocating for and hoping that the board will

022take action in the form of an intermissal agreement. And I'll talk a little bit about that. So that's Cal Monshare. If you turn to the next page, we're planning a four-phase project as I stand before you right now, hoping to drop it to three phases. Okay, the dates are going to change a little bit. We had a meeting on the 23rd of January with the superintendents and business officials. Got some really good feedback that day. Um, we were going to try and do a vote for this late spring this year and it was feeling a little bit rushed and I don't want that. I want transparency. I want people to understand. So, we backed it off and now we're looking at a June vote. I'll talk a little bit more about that. Um, but when

023you look at the phasing of the project, you can see at each phase, the amount that count would be responsible for. And my hope is when you get to column H over here, that's the purchase of the Leroy building that that column will not be included when we get to the end. Okay? Not to the end of the project, but before we go out to vote uh come June 9th or June 11th, which are the days we're targeting. So those are the phases of the project. Um and what we try to do in column E and F is load up the most aable parts of the project to the front of the project. So it starts your aid flow. Okay. So if you go to the next page, page four, this assumes an intermunicipal agreement

024which the board would have to approve. That's a contract that we would have with all 22 districts. I'm hoping and anticipating my board will approve the IMA in February and then between February 18th and May 1st, we're going to ask all 22 component districts to consider the IMA um cash payment. Okay, doesn't mean you have to do it this way. The beauty of the intermunicipal agreement is you can finance it however you want. If you do dazzy 20 years done, that's your option. We don't have an option. Um there's one I think after seven years you it's callable one time if I'm not mistaken. I might be off. It might be year eight. So when you look at this this would say you made the cash payments in the just as the schedule um dictated

025and you can see the first year 2027 you'd make a payment you'd get your aid. You see the net amount and then at the bottom the very bottom you see the total amount and the amount of aid. It's about a 50/50 proposition um between what's aided and what isn't. Okay. That's that model for the IMA. Any questions there? >> I'll just um remind the board that Melissa Kirkland from BPD came in and presented, right? That's what she was talking about was our IMA. Just in general, in terms of our financial planners, they love the idea that we would be given the option through an IMA to finance the project in whatever way is best for us given our budget. Uh it allows us to manage everything from our financing which as Kevin said when you

026look at Dazzy we we're in our current capital project we're we're going to avoid Dazzy >> right so trying not to use the most expensive um tool to borrow. Uh so definitely in our best interest to look at the IMA. >> Generally with Dazzy rates are higher. Um you know if you're a mortgage person you pay points and the points are higher. Um, we refinanced the current bond back in 2016. The gross savings were about 3.1 million. After Dazzy fees, the savings we were actually able to pass on to districts was about 1.6 million. So, I mean, it was still savings, but half of that savings got eaten up in fees. And every time I was on a phone call for refinancing this bond, there were, you know, four attorneys and, you know, all the

027auditors and accountants and all that type of thing that, you know, we were paying for through Dazzy. So, >> in order to enter into the IMA, all component districts have to say yes. >> Stole my thunder. So, the kicker or the the the challenging part about the IMA is 22 out of 22 have to say yes or nobody can use it. Nobody can do it. Um, I'm optimistic. I most of the time when I walk out of these meetings, people say, "Why would somebody choose it?" That's for them to answer. uh if they make that choice. I'm I'm not feeling like that's where we are this time around. What I've learned from 0405 is that there was um one district that just was not going to be supportive and so they knew they were going

028to have to go Dazzy. And so we will have a public vote as I mentioned. My hope is that the reason we're having the vote is because we're adding space. We're adding square footage onto our buildings and we have the potential donation or purchase of real property in which case we have to do a vote no matter what. But if for some reason the IMA wasn't approved it would also authorize Boseies to go to Dazzy for financing. So back in 05 back in '05 December of '05 when they did the vote they added square footage okay but they also were getting the vote approved to go to Dazzy and get the financing. >> Okay. the other pages in here. I'm sorry. >> Anyone else have questions about that? >> So, when you look at Dazzy,

029you got this the payment plan. This is just a graphical representation, right? You make the payment, you get the aid. A little bit different with when you pay rent and when you pay for capital expenses for both the aid comes back to you in the current year, right? So, if you spend a dollar and you get 74 cents back, you're going to get that 74 cents back this year. when you send a kid to career and technical education and pay that tuition, the aid on that tuition comes a year later. Okay? So, that is um somewhat of an advantage. And the other piece with both these projects is we're still under the old rules. Um you're going to pay that and generate aid long before we file a certificate of substantial completion. Like you don't

030get your building aid, right, until you file that with New York State. For us, it's rolling as as your payment comes in, you make the payment. Obviously, we have to have the contracts in place to bill for it, but you make that payment and then the aid flows back to you that year. Couple of different examples. This example on page five, I'm sorry, page six, it's a IMA 2 to fouryear bond anticipation, note payoff. What that could allow you to do is let's say in July you're like, you know what, let's go to the market. Let's see what kind of interest we can get. Let's roll a bond anticipation note, make our payment this year. If we get to the end of the year and we have some unappropriated fund balance, we'll just pay it

031off. If we don't, we can roll it into the bond, right? Are you going to pay a little bit of interest? Of course. Is that Bosey's? Yes. Um, but it just gives you some flexibility. So, like that's a two to fouryear plan, right? And then same thing, graphical representation. Make your payment, get your aid. And then the last example on here, and this is where I I try and explain to folks, just because you don't use Dazzy, if you want to, you can find it. You can still finance this for 20 years. Here's an example with an IMA of financing it for 20 years. Here's the difference. 5 years in, something happens, you've got cash, pay it off, you're done. With Desi, you're going to be locked up making that annual payment. You can't pay

032it in advance. You're just you're locked into that payment schedule. So, if you were in favor of Dazzy as a board, might encourage you to consider the IMA and talk to your financial adviserss about a 20-year bond opportunity to finance it. You can still do the same thing, just still gives you more control. I'm just going to pause there. Questions? >> Do they fix the rate? Does Dazzy have a fixed rate or is it >> It is It is a fixed rate. >> Okay. I don't know what they are like right now, Mike, but they it is a fixed rate here. >> You ask Oh, go ahead. If you went to this 20-year deal, is that something that our public has to vote on or is that just for us to decide? >> It's for

033you to decide. >> Um, this is where you really need to talk with BPD and get them involved in what those requirements are. Um I feel I have a good handle on finances. I am not Bernie Dawkins office um with their level of understanding of municipal finance and there's options beyond this that are available to you. We just wanted to show a couple of different options that could be used. And you know, this is a, you know, you look at this and you look at how much more, right? You're going to pay about a million more dollars on the 20-year with your principal and interest. Of course, estimated um and you get aid on that, right? You're getting aid on the interest, too. But, you know, in the end, if you got somewhere and you

034want to just pay it off, you have the ability to do that. So the vote on this, when would we need to decide whether we're going DASNY or IMA? >> I am going to ask if districts could do it before May 1st. And here's why, Mike. Because we have we could probably go a week later, but we have to advertise 21 day minimum 21 days prior to the vote what the what the resolution's going to be for voters to vote on. Um, so it would just give us a time to, you know, either put in Dazzy or or not have to have Dazzy put in there. >> The only thing talking out loud here is if we as a board decide to um not frontload but choose the IMA, we're loading a lot of debt

035into three years of >> So that's a really good point and a good question. So, when we met with the superintendents a couple weeks ago, I actually talked about a September vote and as we started talking through things and we had um Tom Zuber there, uh we had Bernie Danigan's office there. One of the things that a June vote will allow you to do is is a couple of things. First, you won't make a payment in your next 2627 school year. Okay? Because you can't build anything into your May budget because there's no expense yet. We don't have an approved project. by getting it approved in June. However, once that vote hopefully successful, you will have an expense. You'll have that IMA I hope expense. You could then if you have any fund balance, you

036could take some fund balance and appropriate it not to a capital reserve, but what's called a capital fund because you now have an expense, right? So, let's say you had a couple bucks you could put there this year. Next year, if it passes, now you're building your 2728 budget. you could build money into your budget and if you have some fund balance left at the end of that year, move some of that money into your capital fund to help offset your payment for the IMA. And then of course, if you do that when you make the payment, you're going to get that revenue or that aid back the same year. So, we think this vote also gives districts two more full years of planning. Um, and you could consider you could consider setting up a

037capital reserve. Again, you got to talk to your auditors. Um, I shared the language of one in the folder that the Lockport City School District put out to their voters last year. Um, but every auditor is different. Every financial advisor is a little bit different. So, you know, make sure you talk with them and your your council. So, um, we're hopeful that the June vote will give districts some more flexibility. >> And I just want to clarify like if if and when we do the vote on an IMA, that does not mean that we have to fund this project in three years. An IMA means that we have the ability to fund this project however we see fit. >> So, we could still do um we could do the difference between bands and bonds if

038we need to do short-term. Really, uh in general, I think Melissa, we're always thinking about our budget and saying that in terms of our budget increases, we want to try to keep those those budgets as flat as we can, right? So our our strategy when we go out to decide how we're going to pay for this, we're going to be looking to keep our budget as flat as we can keep it while while bringing the Bosey's budget in. So that might mean different ways of financing to do that. But that's the kind of thing that BPD would would be able to do for us. The opposite of not having an IMA is that Boseies, even if it's just us that says no to the IMA, now Boseis has to go out to Dazzy and we're

039all going to pay those increased DSNY fees because now we've lost the ability to make decisions around how to manage our own budget and our own finances. >> That's fair. And when you look at like the phase, Mike, if you go like to column E, like the first year, that's going to be your like the 541 will be your number. We can't ask for more. when we phase it and we lock in those numbers like uh the first year 13.5 million we can't spend more than 13.5 million in that first year construction that's all we can do right we can't if we let's say they come and say hey we're well ahead of schedule well you keep working but we can't pay until the following year when we can build districts for that money again

040as well so the three years I would look at as a minimum >> framework that you have to pay that off but like I said working with Bernie Donigan you can go you know probably anywhere between three and 20 >> okay >> so Then we would so then we would be able to finance that debt. >> Yes. >> If we didn't want to swallow it all >> because Yeah. >> to manage our own budget. >> Yeah. And and you know, >> I have a superintendent that's talked to me about, hey, I'm going to bring your Boseies debt on and then when your debt's falling off, I'm planning another capital project to fill in the hole that the Bosey's payment left, right? And then it's a, you know, again, it's a zero sum game to bring

041in their project. So that's why working with BP BPD is critical because I think they can help you plan and see some of those things if you're planning your own capital projects in the out years too. So that's my next question for you is we we aren't going to be thinking that way in terms of strategy because we're already doing our own every five like we've got a pretty good pattern but you had made mention that maybe Boseies would like to not do this every 20 years that maybe maybe you would want us to be thinking about getting through this one and financing it in a way that maybe frees us up after maybe year 10 and you go at it again or maybe year seven. So like I know you're retiring but I also

042know your team your team is there Kevin. So talk to me a little bit about that. Like are you thinking every seven years, every 5 years, every 10? Like what is Bosey's dream instead of these $40 million? >> Yeah, I think we'd like to try and do some work every couple years, but maybe a couple million bucks here and there. And I don't mean to make a couple million like it's not a lot of money, but as opposed to doing 40 million and 40 million, 80 million over 30 years, right? We're we're getting if you go to Mount Morris, we're getting to some instructional spaces, but more than half of this money is just going to windows and roofs and all that type of stuff. Um >> like our auto tech program, we don't have

043a lift that can hold an electric car. >> We don't have an electric car piece of auto tech right now. Like we know that's something we need to look at. Maybe even heavy equipment. Um so there are certainly upgrades to programs that I think we need to be looking at and we you know my opinion is we can't do this every 20 years. And I think it's easier to bite off in chunks. You know, $2 million in this region is $100,000 a district is $2.2 million. I know that money and inflation gets eaten away quickly, but you know, we could do some pretty nice renovations. We could pick a program a year, >> cosmetology, conservation, right? And really put some um nice upgrades into the programs that are our most successful programs. So, that's something

044that we're looking at. One of the things we talked about, um, right now, let me see. Come on. Come on. Come on. We collect about $2 million. We collected just under $2 million in in the year we're in right now for the past capital project. Um, >> 89,000 for 85. That's our exclusion. >> Yeah. Um, yes. 109 I think it is. >> Okay. >> 109. >> You're already paying that. If we just collect, if we never stopped collecting that and did many capital projects all along the way, someday you're going to get to a point where you might need to do a roof. But the other thing, we can't have a capital reserve. We're not allowed to have a capital reserve. We have very few reserves. But if I have a capital project number, I

045can carry money over into the next year to apply it. Right? So if I had 2.2 million this year and I knew I had 2.2 2 million coming next year. I could do a $4.5 million project um for no increase in cost to districts and it could help manage the Bosey's capital exclusion which we have to be very aware of too. At no time do we want that to to go backwards your capital exclusion. We want it very at the very least keep it even >> if not increasing slightly on an annual basis. So I would just advocate like I would love to see us regionally create that pattern for ourselves so that we are thinking about that when we're building our budgets that we've begun to develop the cycle because the last thing I

046would want to do is borrow for this project in 20 years and then in five have you guys come wanting another one right so like all of that is going to matter to us if you could even say by the time we get to June maybe a regional conversation amongst ourselves where we say let Boseies really wants to go every seven I would like to know that before we start borrowing so I get a sense of what you need us to do in order to manage our own local our own local share. So I'm I'm excited about the concept of trying to collaborate on this topic. >> Me too and I'm appreciative of the collaboration that we get around the table with the superintendent as well. >> Any other questions for me? I really appreciate

047your time. >> Yeah. >> I'm sorry I'm running to another board meeting. Mondays and Tuesdays are tough for me. It's days I'm usually not. I'm in Albany. So like for the next three weeks I'm not in the office on Mondays and Tuesdays. So the Monday and Tuesday board meetings I've been really trying to see if I can't knock two out in a night. So I did two last night and I'm doing two tonight. So I'm headed down five to Penrook for my next one. >> Any other questions? >> Thank you for moving me up on the agenda. I appreciate it. >> Thank you for coming. >> You guys have a wonderful night. I'll try to quietly escape. >> Penrook. >> Dr. Schnow, I've got a quick one for you. >> Would we be meeting? We

048need to get together with Bernie Dan before the May vote then. before we vote to go into an IMA. >> Yes, >> within the next two months. >> I mean, I can certainly bring Melissa back out here again um to do that. But as Kevin said, like let's say that this budget vote for Boseies takes place in June. We aren't going to make our first payment to Boseies for what? >> July 27th. >> Yeah. Another year. So, we have some time to plan how we would finance that and kind of build that project out. But as many times as the board wants to hear from Melissa, she'll keep coming out. You know, she'll she'll do whatever it is that makes you guys feel confident about an IMA. I feel confident about an IMA. I But

049I've had more time to process it. So, whatever you need, you let me know and bring her right back to you. >> Okay. Thanks. >> I'll come back too. >> Thank you so much. >> Thanks, Governor. >> Thank you. >> All right. We're going to move back up the agenda to correspondence and points of pride. We're going to start with you, Becca. >> All right. Our elementary gymnasium was filled with joy and music for the sweetheart dance generously sponsored by our incredible PTO. Students and their special people enjoyed a night of dancing with a live DJ, pizza, and exciting raffle prizes. A celebration of this scale is a true team effort. We want to extend a huge thank you to our middle and high school student volunteers and our Calum parent volunteers. Their dedication and

050time are what make these cherished community traditions possible. And I attended with my two youngest sons and we had a ball and my middle son was one of those volunteers and he was so excited to do it and he's already ready to do it again next year. So, it was lots of fun. >> That's good. We are thrilled to announce the successful kickoff of this school year's creativity club for our K to2 students under the guidance of our facilitators Mrs. Bellowos, Mrs. uh Leverki, sorry um and Mrs. Yarwood. Uh students rotated through three dynamic stations focused on coding, building, and collaborative creation. We are incredibly proud of these young learners for their curiosity and teamwork after a full day of school. And our fourth grade band students recently took center stage at our annual beginner

051band showcase. This event allows our fourth graders to become teachers. Led by Mrs. Peterson students had the opportunity to demonstrate their progress by teaching their instruments to their special guest. In addition to the hands-on fun, Mrs. Peterson shared valuable insights regarding the resources our district provides to support musical education both in the classroom and at home. It was a wonderful night of student leadership and musical growth. >> On January 25th, our Raiders enjoyed a fun night at our annual winter snowball semiformal which was held at Jones Hall. Members of our student council planned the beautiful night. The students looked fantastic. The decorations were magical. The food was delicious. And the dance floor was packed. Thank you to Mrs. Chapman, our student council adviser, and members of our student council for hosting a wonderful event for

052our student body. >> Mike, would you be willing to read the next one as well? >> Of course. Our middle school play was a great success. Under the direction of Mrs. Schoff and Mrs. Harbor Middle School students performed an entertaining rendition of The Absolutely True Story of King Arthur. Congratulations to all our Raiders on a job well done. I heard Bob Lonsbury was there, too. He enjoyed it. Nine of our talented junior high students represented us at the 2026 All County One Festival on January 31st at Perry Central School. Congratulations to our Raiders and thank you to Mr. How do you pronounce that? >> And Mr. Youngs for supporting our students beyond the classroom. >> Thank you. On Wednesday, January 28th, the Fingerlakes Youth Apprenticeship Program hosted its annual signing day, an event designed to

053celebrate students across our region who are being given the opportunity to explore and begin careers in advanced manufacturing while still in high school. Seven of our Raiders who are enrolled in the GV Bosey's electromechanical trades program were celebrated at this event as they were awarded internships and paid co-ops. That's cool. and longtime varsity wrestling coach, Mr. Chip Day was honored with a celebratory tribute at last week's senior night wrestling match. Mr. Day enjoyed an alumni tunnel of over 20 former wrestlers in a plaque presentation. A special thank you to Coach Day for many years of dedication to our wrestling program. >> Thank you. Before moving to board committee reports, I have two other points of pride I'd like to um talk to. First, we got a letter, a correspondence from the CMTA um outlining the

054union's purpose and identity. I emailed that all to you the meeting or the meeting before last, but I was sick the last meeting. Um, and it sort of outlined their commitment to the district and what they represent and who they are. Um, I thought it was I'm not going to read the whole letter, but I would like to highlight some of the letter. Um the first paragraph says, "Each day, Calon Mumpford teachers come into classrooms ready to ensure that every raider receives the support and education they deserve. Driven by an unwavering dedication to our students and crafts. As a proud unit of dedicated professionals, our teachers push for academic and personal success of every raider. Kalum's faculty has a wide range ranging breadth of professional and interdisciplinary knowledge with nearly 70% of members holding at

055least two separate certificates or master's degrees with a collective 961 years of experience. I thought that was an impressive number. The passion and professional expertise that our membership brings to our district every single day builds upon and enhances the reputation of Kalum as a home of Raiders. Two other things they highlighted in this um that I thought were uh very telling of the CMTA is that after school hours you can find 60% of Kelum teachers focused on running clubs, sports or other activities and over a quarter of our membership are proud alumni with a with over 40% of teachers choosing to have their own children come to school here. It was a nice letter. was signed by the executive committee and I just wanted to share that and continue to support them and um make

056sure that they know that we appreciate them. >> The second thing I want to highlight um with probably Dr. Chanel's not not pleasure is that she just passed into her one-year superintendency. She survived here. I am still standing right. >> Um I thought this was important to highlight. Uh it's been a challenging year with with challenges um with successes and I think Dr. Chanel has brought us through the other side and we appreciate that and want to celebrate you and everything that you've done for us. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Third thing, I said two at first but actually have three. be on the lookout for a board bulletin that's going to be coming out tomorrow. So, instead of watch out Wednesdays when we post that there's a board meeting and click on a

057link to um see the meeting and watch it. There's going to be uh Sher and I have been working on developing like a bulletin of just highlights what's happening with the board. Um and so you will see that tomorrow and that will be coming out after every meeting. >> And where is that going to be? >> Watch out Wednesdays. and we'll post it on the watch out Wednesday. >> Yes. I'd also like to put it on um our board page, but I have not talked to Mrs. Pete about that yet. >> Okay. >> So, like on where where you link into our board page, it should go on there as well >> and open to suggestions. It's a work in progress. Um it was an idea that Dr. Chanel got and I got at the

058conference that we attended and it's taken a minute to get get it together, but we've got it. And there's ways to adjust it so it doesn't have to look the exact same every meeting. >> Another way to push information out to our community. >> Moving on to our budget calendar. I had Sherry print out the budget calendar for everybody. That should be in front of you just to highlight where we're at. Um what's not on this is the surveys that we started. So we pushed surveys. I think we are near 80 about 80 responses for the surveys. Um that was with a limited push. We are going to do the big districtwide push for that survey with a postcard that should be going out probably next week, the week after. Dr. I'm hoping that it

059hits the mail this Friday. That's why that's my hope. >> Okay. >> Now, it might be Monday or Tuesday of the week after cuz, you know, everybody needs time, but I would like it to be Friday. >> So, right now, we're sitting at about 80 respondents and so I think that will go up tremendously once we push that postcard. Um, we also have the three dates where the board is going to push into compacts um to have a board open session. I've uh reached out to you guys about people participating in that. Heard from some of you. If some of you are still interested, let me know. I appreciate everyone that's responded. Thank you. Um what am I missing? >> We were going to host a morning session, too, for folks that maybe don't want

060to come out at 7 o'clock at night. That way you get a morning session for people that prefer it. >> Will there be more than one board member there? >> Yes. So the idea is to have two but no more than we really don't want more than three. We would because four obviously is B board business, right? So I I'd say two is ideal. >> I have not signed up for any but I can fill in holes. >> Okay. >> Um >> and what were the dates for those again? I'm sorry. >> It is No, you're fine. March 5th, March 16th, and April 2nd. >> March 5th, March 16th, and April 2nd. One of them is after the middle high school compact list and one is after the elementary. >> Okay. And and there the

061first two are evening meetings. >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> I believe >> 6 o'clock, 7 o'clock, >> seven. Okay. >> So that's the compact meeting and then Yep. >> Okay. And then an open meet and greet kind of a >> Yes, we're using it's not the compact meeting. I know you'd asked that question, but we're using that space and time to sort of um pivot off of their audience, bring in new people. >> Okay. It's a great idea. And then the April 2nd is like we're gonna have coffee and donuts. Should I promise that? Should I? >> I mean, we can promise donuts. >> People will come for donuts. >> Yeah, I will stop and get them for us. I I do think if folks come out for coffee in the morning, like one of

062the things I'm going to do, too, is just reach out. There is a a Calonia senior citizens group. Um there's so there's a few folks I'd like to invite to try to see if we could get a group of folks to actually come and join us so that we're trying to hear different voices which you know that last workshop that we did together we were talking about ways that not just when you're in your groups we all are in different groups of folks and we hear like in that vein of what people are thinking but how do we now intentionally try to make sure that we reach a few other groups is what we're hoping for. >> Yeah, I think you bring up a good point Dr. Chanel. I think all of us should be

063pushing some of this information to our friends and family, people that are in the community that we know so that they're they're knowing this is happening. Um we all um interface with different groups of folks and they're all important. All right. Uh next on the agenda is public forum. We do not have anyone signed up for public forum. So we're going to >> do we have any committee reports left? >> Sorry. Thank you. Board committee reports. Should go back to my list that I made for myself. Board committee reports. I believe policy compact and tech met. >> So, let's start with policy. >> They had a call, Dr. Chanel Ernie and I had a call about um AEDs. So, it was a really straightforward policy that I think we're implementing or doing a first read

064on tonight. Um really good good policy for the safety and security of all the students and faculty here. >> A little change is um AEDs are going to go to athletic events going to get some portable ones and um there's going to be a lot of training too. >> Okay. Compact >> elementary met. Um and then they were talking about the sweetheart dance. Um Michelle was talking about they're working on a homework policy gave a few options for people to consider about you know the the rule for instance about 10 minutes of homework per grade per kid and you know um reading being important things like that's that's the main thing >> in middle school high school we continued on with the uh kind of a roadmap document for college and career readiness for what

065families can and should expect at certain points of the year. >> Okay. >> Close. >> And they they were also uh talking about you went to uh receive the award about the reading raiders. >> Yes. >> At the um what was that? A Bose >> Tennessee Valley School Boards Association. Yeah. Right. >> I had a really nice day with um Mrs. Kelly. >> Yeah. Yeah. She's the one I read. >> Yes. >> I had a nice day with those two ladies. It was very good. >> That's funny. >> Um tech committee I think met too. >> We did. >> Yeah. As you know, that's over my head. But >> no, >> but it was good to hear all the things that they're trying to do. You're laughing. It's true. They're they're going to be teaching,

066you know, young kids how to turn on things and turn you off. But I'm still working on trying to push the right button. So, you know. >> All right. >> Anyhow, but they're working that. So, that's good. >> Are you the Peggy? Are you the only one on the tech committee? You can. Anything else? >> Um, we talked uh did a software demonstration for a screen sharing program that they're demoing. >> Um, >> that's right. >> I think that that was the big >> Okay. >> That was the big thing. It was very cool. And there was a software thing about teaching the different age levels how to use their computer and how to, you know, read your email before you push the button and things like that. >> All right. Thank you all. Good

067work. Board has been active. Um, Dr. Chanel, I'm going to shift to superintendence report. We have the Bosey's capital project first on our list. >> Yeah. So, I actually had put that there to make sure I was leaving the notation for you all. It gave me the ability to make sure your backup notes were filled with information you would see and hear tonight from uh from Kevin. Uh just in general, the only thing I will add to that, I guess, is I'll just circle back. If you guys could let me know if you're wanting me to try to schedule Melissa to get back out here or you're thinking we should do some sort of workshop session with her, just just let me know and I will maybe maybe even if you're thinking budget and finance

068committee like a smaller group is more interested in that. Like I'm very open to whatever the board needs to feel like you have your land legs and the concept of an IMF. >> But May's going to get here quick. So, please express your desire or need for information um before it's too late for us to coordinate. >> I think it I'd like to see something uh what the different loans would be if we did stretch it out. I don't think she would need to come out. I mean, I appreciate her presentation before, but I would like to see their financing options for us. Um because I just I'm cautious with the community and their feelings towards the spending. Um whether we like it or not, the project is going to go. It's just how expensive

069it's going to be for us. >> For us, that is correct. I concur. I felt the same way. So, you know, just in general, when you hear Kevin say like the superintendents were all together, I definitely felt like a March vote was too soon. I definitely felt like us holding a march vote for Bosey's capital project on our campus wasn't in our best interest. Right. So I think just in general making sure that we understand enough of what our community needs and what they desire and what our planning needs to be for the future. I assure you that is where my heart is every day when I'm thinking on these topics. Okay, next up after that is honoral. Uh you'll see the high school marking period 4. Uh so we have officially closed out the

070first semester and moved into the second semester. honor rolls are are stable there. I would say in comparison to last year, you're looking at nice high numbers, which I like to see. Um, next up, if you go down to that next piece there and you see the middle school, middle school is marking period 2. Middle school students are hitting the halfway mark right now in their classes. In your backup notes, uh, you should have found a little bit of a write up from principal Marcelo just talking a little bit about the transition at the middle level, not just for her, but even with a new, uh, middle school counselor. So just making sure that our grade level leaders are asking for the things that they were used to seeing in terms of student data so

071that we're paying a very close attention to how kids are doing right now at this moment and forecasting what they need from us in the future. So we did see a little bit of a drop there in those marking period honor rules and we want to make sure that we're paying close attention to the data set. Uh next up for me is lead testing. So I want to talk a little bit about the progress that I have made uh that we have made as a district. So, we did have a couple of fixtures that went over that five parts per billion limit that the state of New York has put in place. Um, for us, those failures came in four locations that do need to be remedied. So, I have basically triled one area and

072we have done a replacement of a faucet and of the water lines that run from that new faucet into the basement. So, like replacing like like think basement, you've got a water line. We basically ran new water lines from our main lines up to the the next floor into the new faucet. Uh you do have to wait some time anywhere between 10 and 18 hours before you can test the water in those after running them. So first thing in the morning had the the water science folks back out here from Stole to do another test on that. It passed with wine colors. So, one thing that I just want to make sure that I make kind of clear to us is that in terms of the district, um, we don't have issues with our primary

073water sources. So, really what we have to keep paying attention to is the faucets, the the age of the faucet. And I would say maybe even more importantly, we have a faucet that maybe gets used once a month. And when you have faucets that only get used once a month and that same faucet has an older fixture on it, you're sort of asking for trouble. Uh so I think in some of our areas where we where we did not pass with the five parts per billion, I would like to see us build a plan to make sure that those faucets are new that we go ahead and just replace those, especially in those I'm going to call them low areas. Um when they do collect the water sample, they just take water for the first

074like two seconds that that water is turned on. So, anything that has been sitting in an old fixture for for especially for a month, right? You're you basically could bank on that that would fail. Some of the things that you should do when you're lead testing is before lead testing, and like I said, it's I want to say it's anywhere between 10 hours and 18 hours, you should run the water and then let the water sit for that period of time and then do your draw. In this particular draw for our live testing, we did not do that. We didn't run the water. I'm actually not upset about that because I've learned about a fixture that I think in general we are only using it once a month. So, it makes sense really to test

075it in, let's call it its natural habitat. That really is how we use it. So, what we're going to do now is make sure that we remedy the areas uh that are essential to us. And as you know, we don't we'll retest before those faucets are released to be used again. So, a second round of testing happens before anything goes back live. Um the gentleman from Stool Water came out and spent some time with me just making sure that I understood the science behind our lead testing so that as I'm going through it and remedying it that I'm not just doing it from a piece of paper. Uh and he was very clear with me that if you had a larger issue in terms of lead issues in your in your school, you wouldn't have

076fixtures pass here and then fail here and then pass here. if if it really were about your main water lines, you would see failures all along the way on faucets that are that are sharing those main pieces. So, I do believe that's why I started with one fixture to see like if I remedy that, what happens? Remedying that was fast, painless, and definitely our path forward. >> Do you have to work with the health department or the building inspector when you do >> not a building inspector, but we do report out to the health department? Yes. All of our data is reported to the health department and to herds. The herd system >> herd system for New York State and the local governing authority through the county. >> Okay. I mean like so when you

077designate the faucet to be replaced, do you have to do a plan and report that and have them inspect your work or we're able to do that in house? >> We do. Well, we actually did not do this one in house. We hired out through Hyderman to have them come and do this work for us. In terms of what is required, what is required of us is to document that we did that second round of lead testing. So before that fixture is released like stole comes in a third party test uh lead testing facility, they come in and actually collect those water samples and then retest and then send us the thumbs up that that that fixture is either good to go or that we are still not good to go. So once we have

078remedied our issues, we document that our issues were remedied and that water testing actually cleared those faucets to be back online. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Absolutely. Okay, prek, are we ready? Um, Brennan is going to work some numbers over there for me. Um, if I need to stand up, I will. But at your at your table place, um, I did give you another look at prek. So, the last time it was much much larger. This time I didn't want you to get completely lost. Uh, not that one. The spreadsheet prek projections. >> I don't I'm sorry. I don't have those. I reailed it to you just before um we got started. >> I thought you meant when you asked about this I >> Yeah, you're fine. >> Okay. >> So, the document that you

079have in front of you, you know, you've seen this at the last time we were together in terms of the numbers, but this time I Brennan has created a more interactive approach. So, I want to be able to walk you guys through some scenarios. And in order to do those scenarios, I'm going to fill in some numbers in this table and it's going to generate some financial data for you uh to help you sort of see our forecasting of revenue projections uh by moving to full day prek. All right, we might have to make that. There we go. Okay. So, I want to get started first by just reminding everybody that when we begin to build our budget, it has always been our process that we are going to budget conservatively both by talking about

080our expenses and we're also going to conservatively budget our revenue to make sure that we have a solid budget and once we tell the community that this is this is the program that the budget is supporting that those programs can be supported. So, I want to talk a little bit about that. Let's take a look at um prek as it stands right now. So right now if you again if you look at letter A in your table right now we run three halfday sections of prek. We are currently receiving a waiver from the state of New York which increases the amount of aid that we receive for our universal prek program. So currently to run our program as it stands in our budget, we budget $164,31343. That is the cost of our current project or

081our current program with the waiver. The state of New York and I've been sending the board updates, right? the state of New York. If you listen to the governor's u budget proposal and then we got her or her state of the state and then her original uh her first round of budget, she's actually increasing the per pupil rate for aid for students in prek. So our original was like $7,800, let's say, per student. And now she's saying that you're going to get whichever is higher, your original or $10,000. So for us it now goes up to $10,000 per pupil. Okay. So I'll start with that because you're watching at the state level the move they have desperately been trying to get all the school districts in the state of New York to go to full

082day prek. So because of that even the waiver that we've been applying for and and received is meant to help us get to full day prek. The whole goal in the state of New York is to move to full day prek. That's what they're trying to fund. So now you're watching them take this waiver money and I would I would say we have to be careful with the concept I already had told you that of like whether or not we could get the waiver again. Well, now you're watching them move way more money into what they're going to do per pupil. So the chances that they're going to increase per pupil and still run waiverss for folks should get kind of interesting. Um, without the waiver, without the waiver, our aid or the the the

083portion that the state pays for our program would drop down to $95,000 instead of the 1369. Meaning it would increase our local share to run the exact same program without the waiver would cost us $2,6 or I'm sorry, $26,25343. So that's like when we go to build this budget, even if we're not moving to full day prek, that's our programmatic cost. That's what we would be budgeting for. So now I want to move us into the other side of this lane here. So we've looked at full day prek. So full day prek, you're now seeing in letter C um full day sections, what the full day sections would cost us. And I want to talk a little bit about that sort of revenue generation. So I believe in yours you're currently looking at uh everything

084being really zeroed out there in terms of your UPK award. So what I'm going to have Brennan do is across the top there Brennan right now we have 52 families that have pre-registered for preK. So there is some conversation right now. So I can't give you exact answers around what this is going to look like. Uh, we know that our allocation is going to go up to $10,000 per student according to the to the governor's runs. What we don't know is if we're still going to remain capped at our current allocation, which is 32 students. That we don't know. >> So, it's 16 and 16. >> So, just think about the way that we are funded. Don't don't think class don't divide. Yep. I don't think class size yet because in the end we have

08552 families that have said they want to come to prek. So we should expect 52 children to walk through the door. Like that's what our data suggests right now that 52 children are going to walk through the door. We might get aid $10,000 for every single one of those 52 children. That is the way the documents read right now coming out of ASBO. That's some of what we're hearing when we're calling Questar. We're not sure if that means that we might have to do a little bit of paperwork to get the rest of that aid generation. In other words, proving to them the way the state typically generates funding is they look at your last year's rates and they those numbers and they use those numbers. So there might be what something more we have

086to do to now say we no longer just have 32 because we've moved to full day prek. So, we might have some paperwork to do. If we end up with 52 kids enrolled in our universal prek and they generate $10,000 per student from the state of New York, Brennan, you got that number in there. Awesome. Okay. So, let's just look at the total cost to Cal. So, let's just pay attention to that full day section. Can we make that bigger so the board can see the numbers at the bottom of that? >> What's our current funding number? 7,900 did you say per student >> the current funding number? So the A and B don't change. So right now with the waiver, our aid that's coming in from the state of New York is $1369. Without

087the waiver, our aid drops to $95,000. So our cost right now for running our program is $164,3. If we don't have the waiver anymore, running our exact same program is going to increase us to 206. We've actually been budgeting all along for that. So, our budget should be able to handle and sustain that. Okay. And then Brandon, if you just maybe scroll this way so we can. So, if we end up with all 52 children enrolling in full day prek and those 52 children all come with revenue from the state of New York or aid at $10,000 per child, we would be running three we would be increasing our program to three full sections of full day and it would actually be $41,000 cheaper for us because we would generate we would go from generating

088$95,000 in aid to generating $520,000 in aid. Questions? What if some of those 52 don't want to do full day and they are going to do something else or keep the kids home or something like that? Then you won't get that much money. Sure. So, let's look at what we have right now in our survey. In our survey right now, we have 43 families that are requesting full day prek as their first choice. Oh, >> so if we just go with those 43 families, we would still those 43 students, we would still need the three sections because we can't go over 18 kids per section. So you have 43 students at $10,000 in aid, which would take us up to $430,000 from our $95,000. And now we would have an increase of $48,945. So we

089would not only have program we would have money left over from that aid generation maintaining our our program question. So you have so you have probably what nine >> nine families who would prefer to have half day. >> Yes. >> We can't do anything for them. So, I'm going to show you what half day prek would look like if we decided that not only do we want to do three full day sections, but we want to take the nine families that are saying that their that their preference would be half day prek, we could open one section of half day prek. >> That would actually increase our total of now running our prek classroom because we're going to generate aid the way that we will if it's 10 and we still get aid with no

090cap. Do you have a question, Liz? >> I do. If you're saying okay so say you've got 52 families who are interested total but say 10 of them want half day >> nine of them want half day according to the survey. >> So then that's >> okay sorry I it's >> yeah it's okay. So nine yeah so nine of them want half day. So nine of them want half day. So if we were to run three full sections >> and take care of the 43 folks in the community that are saying that they want full day. And then we run one half day section to take care of of nine of the kids, nine of the families that say they want half day. We could do both if this number isn't capped. So remember I

091said right now we have a cap >> 32. >> We have a cap of 32. So let's do that. Brennan, let's say, well hold on one second. Let me talk about this. We just scroll down just a little bit. >> We could run with exactly what you're saying. run full day prek for three, run half day for one section for those nine kids. Our net local share if we're really going to get the 10,000 and then 5,000 for the half kids, right? Because we don't generate the 10,000 on them, we would get half of that age. Okay. So, we still would be in the green. >> Okay. If we remain capped at 32, so we should plan our budgets to be as conservative as we can be. When you say cap using last year's numbers,

092>> well actually our total allocation is at 251,000. Like right now that's all we can get. That's where we are capped right now with 32 kids being our where our where our threshold is. >> And with the new budget not passing. >> Yeah. The new budget hasn't passed yet. So the governor has said this, right? It's in her runs. But we need to get this same thing through that two house through that two house budget. >> Right. But at some point in time, wouldn't they say, "Oh, you've got 43 kids, not 32." >> Yeah. >> What are you saying? The cap? >> Well, we've been functioning under a cap. So, it's what our allocation is. So, I don't know how to explain it. Brennan, you want to take a you want to take a stab

093at? >> Yeah, sure. So, right now, the way the funding organizers work, so that and the funding organizer is how the state determines what your award amount is. current up to this point until Governor um Toko announced this districts had a cap on how much they were able to be awarded for per one full unit of student call it. So ours forever and this was determined at the federal level was 32. So, we could have 48 students enrolled in our prek program, but our award amount for the universal prek grant would still be capped at 32 kids times whatever the per pupil allocation would be, which for us for the longest amount of time has been 251,0 251,000. Trust me, I'm good at numbers. Um, so with this new proposal, it's saying there's two things

094on the table. We could go over the cap. there will be no more cap. So we could have as many students enrolled who will all be eligible to generate aid by way of a per pupil allocation and that the per pupil allocation will go up to $10,000. So when Dr. Chanel is talking about the difference in these two things, we're saying that right now the red shows us the net local share is if this doesn't pass that's the best we can do next year is 251,000. this does pass at $10,000 per pupil allocation. That's what we're looking at as our local share, which is a negative local share because the award amount would exceed our current cost. >> So, we could run three full day sections of prek for the 43 kids and it would

095cost us in terms of our local we're going to be at well, we would we would actually have money left over because of that, right? The same thing would be true if we go over here and we say that we're going to create the half day program. Our half-day program, look at look at this in terms of where those numbers stand for us, right? >> Yeah. Well, I mean, it's crazy. >> So, let's do this. Let's say that we're only able to do and she's telling us it's going to be $10,000. Okay. So, we're hoping for that. like we should just get that at more suspension. But if we can't get more than 32, like we're capped there, we would still have 9 and a half day program. But let's take that $5,000 away. >>

096That's crazy. >> No, we take the $5,000 away and now we're basically saying that in order to create the half day section for the nine families, we would be saying that we still have local share to the taxpayer. We go from having revenue to to expense. >> And could we still have more than 32 in that full day? We do. >> So that would add would that add more cost or is that >> we would still look so we whether we get paid for 32 I we still have to say that we're going to have 43 kids in our program because we have >> we have that many kids saying that many families saying that they want full day prek. >> But if you had two full days, what happens if you have two full

097days and one half day? If I do two full days and one half day, then you would have families who the families that want half day pre-K would get exactly what they want. We offered half day prek. The families that want full day prek, some of them would have to go into a lottery system and then they might would win half day prek even though they wanted full day. So there are nine families that say, >> but they're still they're still getting a a break from whatever they're paying. You know, you're assuming that the people who want a full day is because of working, which, you know, is understandable, but they would still have a half a day that they wouldn't have to pay >> and we can't be in the business of offering everything

098to everybody. >> Agreed. >> Because it feels like, okay, we're going to offer three full day sections because that's what the community wants. >> Mhm. >> Oh, see, and I am thinking I want to offer three full day sections because that's where aid revenue is coming. And and and I I have to differ like my opinion is different on that that it feels like are we chasing this because it's good for the community or because it's good for our budget. >> Well, both the community for full day prek for years and putting out the survey shows us that we have more folks saying that they want full day prek. So of of the respondents 52 respondents of them nine say they want half day. So really the challenge here, let's say like uh I'll use

099a student example and say that you know we offer let's say I don't want to use that use softball. I don't um I'm going to so we offer softball in the spring. There are a few districts around us that are starting to offer flag football for girls in the spring. >> I know I am I shouldn't talk about it. I shouldn't talk about but this but this is this is the thing right like at some point if if at some point there's a survey I'm going to have to bring Dan Dickens coffee in the morning. I'm not advocating. I think at some point like if kids started to say we want this more than we want that, like I would also stand in front of you and say, you know what, we've been funding a

100program that our kids no longer want and we should we should adjust, right? And so I think in the end the survey is telling us that there are more families in this community that want us to move to full day than those that want us to stay at half. Will they still be interested in full day if there's no wraparound care for their children? If their children cannot attend, say the YMCA after school care. >> Right now, what we have put out to them is we have not we have not promised anybody that we're doing wraparound care. >> I saw that in some I saw that in some of the comments like, hey, if they end at two, what are we going to do for the next hour, hour and a half until we can

101pick up our kids? um which is we work on wraparound care >> and I went through and actually tallially all of the responses because I felt when I was reading it that there were a lot of like I'm concerned about logistics, I'm concerned about wraparound care and I wanted to put numbers to it because that made more sense to me that way as opposed to just kind of reading it and feeling. And from the data that we had when we got the results back, there were um 18 responses listed as to other concerns and four of those were concerns about afterare out of the 18. So four of them said nothing else. They had no other concerns or questions. Um and then there were some that were wondering if both programs would be offered, right?

102Like this is what we're talking about. Some that were concerned about busing, >> right? which we've talked about a few times that that's not aidable. There's all sorts of different requirements that just like prek now is not bust. It will continue not to be bust. Um and then just people actually wondering about logistics of the actual program like are they going to do naps? Who's going to do lunch? What kind of specials are they going to have? But that was so like I felt like I reading it I was like oh my goodness there's this really overwhelming concern from the community about this wraparound care. And there is a concern about that, but numbers wise, it wasn't a top priority on a lot of these people that responded like that wasn't >> and they may

103not even be aware that it would be an option because they don't have older kids yet who know that >> that's something that we do for the older kids. Exactly. >> Yeah. >> I'm just really concerned about the the nine or maybe they're more families who, >> you know, if it wants all full day, they may just not do full day at all. And they So they're they're left they're left out in the cold. So they don't have any choices except to go find a preschool um or a nursery school and then they're going to have to pay. So they're the ones who are going to have to pay and they're cons the reason they're concerned about it is because they want them with their kids and they want to they want to be with

104their kids and they think they're they're still young. They're not ready for um a full day program. We're always saying, you know, preparation for kindergarten. Well, let's wait till they get to kindergarten, you know. Um, you know, and they maybe want, you know, two or three days or or maybe every day, but half day, cuz 6 hours is a long time for somebody who's like three and a half or four years old to be in a classroom and then have to go for lunch with all these people around and then try to take a nap over there, whereas they'd rather just pick them up at 11:45 or whatever the heck it is, you know, and go home. So I was almost saying could they join a full day program and have the pair pick them

105up at the 11:45 or whenever it is for lunch, you know, and just, you know, just leave. >> I know. I heard that sort of the same thing. A half day was preferable to a few because they just figured it was a a long day for a four-year-old. And um back in the day, I didn't like putting my kids in learning trees cuz I I had the same feeling. >> They hit the wall after two and a half to three hours. >> It all worked out well. It all worked half for full or whatever. Um it was the best thing in the world for them >> and they wouldn't be left behind. Obviously, it's optional. You can go to school at first grade. >> It's unfortunate that we can't meet the needs of everybody. like

106we can't like customize what we're doing for every person in our community. Like we're faced with decisions that we're making big decisions based on and and there's always going to be somebody that's not getting their need met. I I guess my qu I guess my question though was >> if you did if you stayed with the three full day three half day all the kids would be able to be in school for half day and then it's just a matter of an extra two hours that they're with daycare or whatever. I mean they're going to have to pick them up anyhow. >> But they all can't be in that because there are parents in the community that are saying we don't bring our kids because we need it to be full day. Like I have

107five kids. two did not come here because I could not do half day. I could have done full day. I could have worked that into my schedule. I could not work half day in. >> But it it is not a need because it's not required. >> Right. So then again, it's a preference. So and then I have one who did a half day somewhere else because I wanted him to be older. I didn't want him to go when he was three turning four. I wanted to go four turning five. So again, that was my preference, right? >> So I put him in a half day program somewhere else. Then my last two came to half day here. So I have done all spectrums of choices. I have had them in full daycare because that's what

108I needed. I had in half day where I paid because that's what I needed and I had them half day here because it was available. So there's always going to be families who can't utilize what we're offering. And it's just we're looking at what does the community need and based on the survey the majority of the community is saying we would like this full day. And then also just as important we're looking at our budget and we're saying what does the financials part of this say? What does the finance say? Because that's our responsibility to the community. Not only meeting their needs but saying hey how are we being responsible with your money. Are we offering you half day because we've always done half day and it's shorter for these little kids but it's going

109to cost you money or are we saying when we look at this money that we're spending of yours and this is what your needs are saying you want and this is what's more fiscally responsible how are we choosing to spend that >> I think we're at the point we need to just decide instead of because we're going to meet whose needs we're going to meet we're going to not meet the needs that we're not going to meet and that's going to be the case whether it's three full day plus a half day or three half days plus a full whatever conglomeration people can choose to attend choose not to attend but I don't think ironing out details like that right now in this setting is really like we're not getting farther in this discussion >>

110ultimately tell me if I'm wrong I might be wrong superintendent's recommendation to the board ultimately you want our support behind that right because you're going to put the budget together but ultimat like it's you assessing all this data >> the the voices of the community, the board, and making a decision and putting that recommendation in front of us. We're not voting on anything. >> Yeah. I just think in the end when we walk out of here tonight, and I do think the conversation is still healthy for us because when we walk out of here tonight and I say to Principal Meyer, we're going to go full speed ahead with full day prek. You guys need to know what that means for us financially. I wouldn't stand in front of you this evening and tell you

111that we're in the beginning stages of budget development. I wouldn't stand here and say that is my recommendation that we go to three sections of full day prek if I didn't think that that was the the most imperative decision that we're going to make in terms of revenue generation for this budget. When you look at it, if we if say we get we're going to build a conservative budget, let and even in revenue, but let's say that they lift the cap and we have all all 52 kids and I hear you that maybe they will not all come. In our survey, our survey there was 11 families that asked for full day that when asked this follow-up question, if we still have if we stay remain half day, will your kids be coming? And they

112said no. So there were 11 hard nos. We didn't ask the same question going in the other way because we've been doing half day prek for so long. So when we built the survey, we didn't say to the half the nine that selected half day, if you selected half day, if we go full day, are you still going to come? So I actually had our assistant principal reach out to families to say, hey, can we ask this question of you? Because in our survey, we failed to ask that. So, of that, I believe there are probably still four families that are going to be a hard no and then a few that are like, you know what, we we might would consider that. We would be interested in learning more about the structure. So, I

113think you might pull a few more folks in from the half day. There are going to be some that are still going to say no because they they can they have the means to do that and they're thinking that way. uh from a purely fiduciary responsibility, I think I would be not building the best budget for this community. If I said that we're even going to stay with the local share to the community for this half-day program that we've been running, our local share is $26,000. I'm telling you that if we move to full day prek, we're going to generate revenue. There will be no more local share to run this program. So, we're going to increase our program level that we're giving to the community. We won't make everybody happy, but we're literally going

114to transition our prek program off the local share and onto state aid revenue, which you guys, that's a huge that's huge. That's huge, >> especially what we we're facing, >> right? >> And going to continue to face in the years to come. So it again, some of it is about service delivery and some of it is about anytime that we're building programs and we can keep those programs sustainable, generate aid on them. Like those are strategies that you're going to watch me deploy in this budget development in every single aspect of this budget. I will be coming back to you saying I can actually move that component of general monies over into this and when I do I'm going to generate revenue and honestly that's better than saying we need to collect tax levy. So,

115the amount of aid that we could generate, you you could get up to it would take us a 3% tax increase in order to generate the aid that we might generate just off of full day prek. So, for me, it seems to be a no-brainer in terms of our financial responsibility to the community, even though I understand that there may be families that say, "Oh my goodness, that's so unfair." >> We'll do our best to help them, right? >> Connect them to local places. Can we have um for parents that are in the position of sending their kids next fall to school or deciding if they're going to when can they expect to know what our plan is? Because I feel as a parent when you're in that position that's pretty stressful not knowing what

116you're doing. My goal would be to walk out of here tonight and be the last school district in the Jese Valley Boseies to announce that we offer full day prek and let Michelle build her her parent information night and start to learn from families what they need. That will also give us a good running start going into budget season. >> And Becky, on our district calendar, we do have a prek night already on there, but that's the we get back. >> You need a direction to go. >> I do. so that I can >> information to the best that I can as soon as possible, whether it be a letter from Dr. Chanel. Obviously, we will have the parent information night. Um, but I I can't collect all the information and create a schedule and

117see what it's going to look like and all of the the the things that as a parent you would want to know coming to that information night. Um, so it was scheduled for the 25th of February. That is too soon. Um, but I would like to do it at least at the end of March. >> Okay. >> If so, you've got the aid projection for this upcoming year. Say it's less than that next year. Does the program offering change for the next year's budget development? >> We talked about that at our last board meeting. Like I think in the end, first of all, it's rare that you see an eight increase and then that it goes away, right? I think if anything and and as much to maybe some dismay, you're probably going to watch

118the state of New York try to fully fund four year olds and then you're probably going to watch them try to go and fund three-year-olds. >> Going to incentivize it more. >> Yeah. So, I don't I mean, do I think that it'll probably take us another 20 years before we see three-y olds? Yeah. But I think you're going to watch it happen in the cities, you know. So, in general, I I think that's the tea leaf that you're reading right now is that in order for the politicians, and I I'll just be political for a second. In order for some of the politicians downstate to fulfill their campaign promises, they're they're trying to promise free for four and three. So, they've got to fund four across the state before they could go to three. So,

119part of me says, if you read the tea leaves, now is the time. Do I think we'll see a decrease? I don't. If we're sitting in a different place next year, I do think it's our responsibility to pay attention to the landscape. If I have to sit here next year and say we are not going to run three sections of full day prek, I will sit here and say it and say the same things. If we have a fiduciary responsibility to the community and so if the local share all of a sudden skyrockets, I would be talking about, oh my goodness, right? We've got to try to bring that local share back down into what our community can tolerate. >> Thank you. >> Absolutely. Great question. >> My concern with this whole thing is that

120We're we're building um our plans off of a proposed budget that is generous and it does look really good. I like the the cost perspectives for our community if those numbers hit. Um but we won't know until April, right? I think that's when the state budget gets voted on. And so there's going to be a lot of negotiating back and forth. Um and and so I apologize. I feel like this is the second time I've said the same thing. Like we're we're advancing a a discussion when we're not going to have concrete numbers for two months, but we're trying to plan things out like >> worst part of development in a public school, is it not? >> Um, yeah. I what what does it hurt to know to have some clarity on the 32 students

121on the $10,000? How harmful would that be to the families to not have that clarity? Because if we're building a budget and we don't have those numbers and there's still cost share to the taxpayers, that's significant. Like you said, that's a potential of almost four to 5% of our total budget if those numbers aren't there. Brennan, will you pull that spreadsheet back up? >> So, see, so your revenue, >> go back up to the top there. See up at the top where we put the revenue at $10,000, take it back down to 7,800. That's our current allocation. >> And that's been a pretty steady number right along. So the bottom cell, >> go ahead. >> The bottom cell was already showing the current award. So what we're doing is we're we're accounting for we're hedging

122against whether or not this can pass, right? So we're we're budgeting with the 251 numbers because what our response data would show is that we can we can hit our cap of 32. We can >> so we can build three se sections with an aid amount of 251 with a local share amount of 107 with our baseline being that 206253. So by by budgeting the 251 and not even getting into will we get 10K, will the cap be lifted, is that going to be the PPA, we are still reducing on the expense side to build this program >> because we're going from aid that we that we should expect of $95,000 to aid that we can expect even at that lower more conservative number to the full 251. So either way, going to full day

123prek changes the local level, right? The local support goes from $200,000 down to a hundred that in the most conservative revenue. This is still the best decision. And then there's the whoa, what if that happens? But either way, Mike, I would not be I would not be talking about full day prek if I didn't believe that it still, no matter what, at its base, which we are guaranteed the 32 kids at our 7,800 if the 10,000 doesn't come through, we're still going to increase the amount of aid that we generate from the state of New York, transitioning the local share over to a share that's aidable. >> Thanks. Thank you. >> Great question. See, we did that in our last meeting, right? That was I think it was helpful for me to have this >>

124so you could plug in stuff and do play out all the scenarios that we're thinking in our heads. >> You're welcome. Thanks, Brennan. >> He sits with me and I say, "And then what if it does this and why is that not changing the number?" And we have we play great scenarios of what that convers conversation should look like and our ability to do that with you with with good numbers. How accurate do you think that survey is? You know how surveys are um do you think it's pretty solid? >> I do. So what we do with the survey, the survey is coming through and it's not like the survey data that then just comes in and sits there. So Shannon Larson is our registar. Mrs. Larson is then reaching out to all of these

125families to start the pre-enrollment process. So right now we have 52 students in our pre-enrollment process which is fantastic. Yeah, >> fantastic. Great number. >> And again, I think I shared with you guys last time, if you think about our current sections, we we're in three sections in every other grade level. This looks like we might have canvased almost everyone in terms of who's out there at this age level. >> Perhaps the last thing that I guess I would just say then, assuming that this is what we're going to do, I mean, I understand the budgetary thing. I'm more on the philosophical, you know, whatever. Can we assure that this prek program is playoriented? >> Absolutely. >> I mean, that would probably be the, you know, if you're going to have three and a half

126or four year olds who have to sit in a chair, you know, that's not so good. >> Yeah, that's and that's definitely not what prek classrooms look like. So, if you It's definitely not. >> It has to be. It actually has to be. And that's what the information night would allow me to do is to explain to the community exactly what that would look like. I did a little bit of that a couple meetings ago. It does have to be um play-based. They do have to have rest. Um actually they're the food that they provide is very like to the count. Um everything is accounted for. Um so the type of experience that a child has there is very play-based social they start again for us and our goals it's early intervention all day I

127mean which is >> and I I certainly understand all that I'm just as I say I was >> I'm trying to represent the moms that I've talked to. >> Sure. >> Yeah. which is >> and certainly my own experience and um even some of my friends who are older and what we did is different than what people are doing these days. I understand all that but I just wanted to share my >> course of course I think having different perspectives is important for our board and that we're not all on the same page, right? That we're all coming from different angles. I think that's important. >> But I think the way they structure things over there, I think it's going to work out great. Even though I had my thoughts about it being all day,

128um I got I got a lot of confidence in it. I think they'll do a nice job for the the little kids. >> Oh, and one one other last thing that somebody mentioned to me was that and I'm not familiar with this that some of the other school districts don't start as early as we do. >> Is that true? for >> well other kids. So in other words getting getting um what time would this start? 8:00 >> we said what remind me Michelle >> I said 8 preliminary I said 8 to 2 so that we could accommodate parent drop off away from the buses and pickup away from the buses. So would it be 8 to 230 depending on the wraparound here again that that's part I don't know >> yeah but is matter first

129thing in the morning >> okay that was just these are just some of the comments that >> yes absolutely absolutely >> any anything else that hasn't been said comments >> all right next up except accept acceptable use policy in the board of education. So last board meeting um Becca brought up that she was unable to watch YouTube videos when she was logged into her schoolboard account. So I've done a little bit of >> I went to watch the board meeting and I couldn't >> I was trying to watch the board meeting. >> I'm sorry. I'm Can I need context? I'm sorry. Why were you logged in to your school account to watch it as opposed to a home account? >> Cuz I was doing board business. I was I had gotten a board email and

130I went to reference my the board video. >> Oh, and then how it manages the profile, >> right? And then I could not get to our board video. I was blocked because I was under 18. >> All right. >> So, Becca Becca brought that up and um you know, Lindsay and I had a few conversations about the the way that Becca's account just in particular. Why are we treating Becca as under 18? Uh, so what we what we've learned in a little bit of our research here is that when the board went digital, the board members, you you all are sort of like in your own you're in your own little world and you don't have all the same features that teachers have and actually not even all the same features that kids have. So

131Lindsay did some research for us. She has done a little bit of preliminary work. She tested it with Becca. We've then tested it with Liz. So both Becca and Liz have now moved out of the old OU where the board didn't have all the same privileges as the rest of our employees. >> Is a a language that people I didn't >> I actually I could make Lindsay tell me what it means. I don't remember >> organizational unit. Think of a group. >> As a group think your little group. So, in order to give Becca any kind of permissions to be able to do the things that she wanted to do, we had to pull her over into an OU that's going to give her those permissions. In order to do that, Becca has now had

132to join the land of the teacher. >> So, she's in a new OU, but to have these permissions now, she's not, let's call it, quarantined. Now, she's not like over there. So, what she does now when she's logged in, her emails, all of those things could actually jeopardize our system. Right now, she's not segregated from the rest of us. So, in order to do that, Becca has had to sign an acceptable use policy. She has done two-actor authentication to be able to get into her email and we have tested those things with her. She logged in tonight by herself and she now has access like she's grown. >> So, will this be pushed out to the rest of us? >> So, the really the question is we we found a problem. We've identified the solution.

133You can you can come over to the other side if you would like. Join the other OU. I would say set up a meeting with Lindsay to get in her office. You would have to do I think we said two-factor authentication first and then bring you over into the new OU and then have you blend in with the rest of the adults in our organization. Sign the acceptable use policy. It's going to give you more flexibility inside of the system. If you don't want that flexibility inside of the system, you can stay right where you are >> because originally when you were built, you were built in a little OU that already kept us safe from anything you might click, >> which is a good thing. >> Yeah, I've only just noticed that it that

134when you're logged into your email and you click a new tab on your home computer, it tells you that your profile is managed. Is that like I noticed in the last week or two is that a new thing? >> Well, >> like like it like gives you a whole different like I'll log into email using my browser on my home computer and then I'll like open a new tab or a new window and it'll say oh this profile is managed because it still thinks I'm logged into my school email account which I'm like if I want to on my own computer go do my own thing. Why is this reaching its handout? I would have to see it like the next time that happens to you if you could just take a screenshot of it

135like in general our stuff is all managed. So you're you're managed through Google admin, >> right? But I wasn't logged in >> to any I it was like a whole new browser window I opened up. >> You weren't doing word business. you go on your computer, it pulls that it pulls that as a reference like that. >> Like say I check I log Gmail profile looks like at the top when you >> right but like if I go to a new window I wouldn't it still thinks I'm logging in as me from here. >> I've happened to me. >> It's weird. It's like hey I I can do this. This is my computer. This isn't a school managed device. >> I transition back and forth between profiles. So >> pretty good. >> New tabs don't

136change your profiles. >> Pardon? Opening new tabs don't change your profile. >> Yeah. And but it's like I can click to a different window that I had opened previously and it's fine. But it like any subsequent ones it's it was it was weird. >> When that happens to you again of it and then we'll know exactly what's happening to you. We'll dissect it for you. >> If you want to move into the no into the new OU, please reach out to Lindsay directly. She'll set up a time with you for you to come into campus and she'll get you all situated. You will have to do it for the first time on campus and it can't happen on a Chromebook. So, we're going to have to get you on an actual computer to get you

137to get you switched over. >> It's not that hard, I will say. >> Does it okay apply like if you're using Gmail on your phone? Is there are buttons that have to be clicked for it to work from that or only on a desktop client? >> We were able to do it on Chromebook. we had whatever method you were using for two-factor authentication. So, both used um cell numbers or cell phone numbers. Um as long as you had that with you, we tested it and checked it. Um the other part is you also will have to have password complexity. So, capital 14 >> like a real password. >> Yes. >> And it has to change because we're going to take >> and it forces reset >> 80 days. It's going to change, >> right? Change

138it. >> Good. >> It increases the >> security in general. But because you guys are currently and I don't want you to think you're we think about security of our servers and our platform and our system and because you're in an OU right now that basically has you kind of quarantined there's not much you can do the rest of it is the rest of us are safe from that right this brings you over gives you more but then adds to your responsibility because now you do have to understand fishing you do have to know what to click on and what not to click on because you've come over into an OU that's going to require you to have that level complexity. So, right now, I'm suggesting that those of you that want that that you

139transition over and it will give you more access to things that you need. For those of you that do not want that, you do not have to do that. >> If we get a, you know, six months out and we start to realize that that that that's creating issue for us, we'll circle back for it. But right now, it appears because it's been happening for a week. Did you come reset your a week ago or your system a week ago? >> So, it's for a week and we haven't had any issue. So Becca has been able to still do whatever even though some of you are over in the other OU. So right now it would be your choice if you want to come over into the other OU. We would just ask that you

140set up an individual meeting with Lindsay so that you can sign the acceptable use policy. She'll train you a little bit in what that means, help you get your password reset and get you going and two-actor authentication. >> Awesome. Thank you. Is it me? >> I think I'm done. >> We're going to move to old business. There is no old business. So, we're going to move to new business. >> We are doing pilot pilot payment in lie of taxes presentation. I think this is product. Good stuff. This is good stuff. >> Little riveting stuff. >> All right. All right. We're going to look at payments in L of tax or good start. All right, payments in le of taxes. On the agenda for tonight, we're going to look at what a pilot agreement is. I'll

141be referring to payments in lie of taxes as a pilot from here on out. How they work and why pilot agreements exist, quick pilot overview, and then I'm going to take everyone through a summary of the pilot agreements that exist in Calony Mer. So, the first slide is what is and what is not a pilot. Pilot agreements are tax incentives provided to businesses to encourage economic development. These agreements are negotiated by a county's industrial development agency. Here in Livingston County, that's called Livingston County economic development. They're intended to attract investment, support infrastructure development, create, retain jobs within the county. Um, and I'll give you more details on how those apply throughout our four pilots here in Calonia later on. Just have a couple things here. What a pilot is, what a pilot isn't. A pilot

142is revenue. It's an economic development tool. It's a mechanism for encouraging business investment. Formal agreement with defined terms and duration. Talk about those durations a little later. Establishes a payment schedule um instead of full property taxes in lie of taxes. and payments are set in advance and often phased in over time, usually increasing. A pilot is not part of the tax levy. It's separate. It's not a full tax exemption for these companies. It does not eliminate payments to the school district. This is revenue that we receive annually per the agreement or per each agreement. And a pilot is not an agreement the district negotiates. It's something we can be a part of. If the IDA approves it, we can sit at the table and be party to negotiations and offer our input, but it's not

143necessarily something we have final say on. We don't have anything to do with closing or final documents. Um, it doesn't reduce the tax levy adopted by the board and it does not guarantee lower or higher taxes for individual property owners. how pilot payments are structured. So, pilot payments are predetermined by agreements negotiated with Livingston County. The payments schedule are typically 10 years. We have a 20-y year and we have a 30-year coming on. Usually, solar is longer. It's usually a lower amount and a longer schedule. Um, payments generally increase over time. For example, we usually see like a 1% increase over time with solar. We have another one coming up I'll talk about later with uh Commodity Resource Corporation. That one steadily increases over time and once it comes off and into the role kind

144of mirrors what it would be once it enters our tax role again. And pilots change how revenue is collected, not whether or not the district receives revenue. I know I already said that, but I'm going to keep reinforcing that. Um, go ahead. All right. Pilot payments are separate from the tax levy. Um they're to be they help us calculate the tax cap, but they are not part of the levy itself. They're included in our revenue. Said it again. Offset a portion of the budget that would otherwise be supported by traditional property taxes. So it is revenue that we may not receive otherwise. It's important to designate that. And they do not change the levy adopted by the board. It's only considered in the cap calculation, which we'll go over later tonight. Um, pilots are factored

145into the state's tax cap for the prior year, the increase to the tax cap, and for the current year, a decrease to the tax cap. So, the prior year, and I'll take you through that calculation later on for tax cap. Again, I'm just showing you how they're um considered. And in our case, because our tax I'm sorry, our pilots are pretty flat in terms of revenue, they pretty much wash each other out every year in terms of that decrease. Um, all right. If you go to the next slide here, here are our four pilots that exist here. Three of which we'll receive payments for in the 26 27 fiscal year. one is still pending and it's not going to come onto our our revenue this year um for closing documentation. So the first one if

146you go to the next slide for me is Amp Me Up LLC. Um the LLC that owns this or the company that owns this is Upstate Breaker Wholesale Supply which is a ecommerce centered um distributor. They're in year four of their pilot agreement. uh it started 2223 sunsets in 2032 333 this year's payments it says estimated because this is subject to be adjusted based on how tax rates are calculated once we get to July and have all those calculations with all the other considerations that have to be made. So, it's set to be at $10,717.78. And through the life of this pilot, we expect a revenue per the schedule of $192,000. Go to the next one. This pilot is nearing its end. We're in our last two years going into this fiscal year. This is

147Commodity Resource Corporation. Um, just to give another example of why pilots exist, this one was for um was offered to the company in their application. There's a catastrophic fire back in 2014 and to support rebuilding and kind of phasing back into their production and um revamping their facility to repair it, uh a pilot was offered this year. They'll generate $130,000 of revenue for us through their pilot payment over the life of this agreement. It's been just under $600,000. Um I've talked to Livingston County about this one. They're pretty confident a pilot agreement will not be renewed or agreed to or even asked for. Um and so I have a just to share the current assessment of this property. There'll be a $10.5 million property based on current assessment re-entering our tax role. Sherry, the next

148slide for me. All right. Calonia CSG is our first solar farm we're going to talk about. This one is a 20-year pilot. It started this school year or this fiscal year and sun sets in 2044 2045. It has a 1% escalation every year. Generates $3,300 a year. It's not the largest pilot that we have and um $80,000 for the life of the pilot. >> Do you know what the assessed value of that parcel is for property? >> I do not have that written down, but I can get that to not a problem. >> Okay. >> I was curious. The next one is incoming solar, more solar. Um, this one's a little bit more nuanced. They were supposed to come on our roll this year, or I shouldn't say roll. This they were supposed to make

149their initial payment this year, but they are there's delays in their closing. They haven't signed their contract yet. Um, so they're continuing negotiations and these numbers will be dependent on the completion of those closing documents. But what we do know is the first payment is going to be about $9,200 and the life of the pilot should generate about $275,000 in revenue. What's important about this one is it's shared between Kelum and Avon. So there's $184,000 in year one. We have 5% of this pilot. It's based on just the parcel and how it's laid out. That's all. Um, so I'll provide updates on that as they come, but it doesn't at this point there's no way we can include this because it would impact our tax cap if they did make a payment. So that will

150have to be pushed back to uh 2728. All right. Any questions on payments in lie of taxes? >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. Yeah. Now you got to hear about tax cut. We get ready. There we go. Thank you. All right. I'm going to take you through the factors that impact tax cap and I'm going to take you through Calonia's tax cap calculation. Um it says on the agenda draft because this is subject to adjustments. Um but we checked it alongside the calculator for the office of the state controller and everything looks to be in final form but we're going to call it draft until it's finally final approval. So, in 2012, New York State put into law a tax cap formula as a means to limit growth of property taxes. There's several variables considered

151in this. I'm going to go over each one. We're going to go over pilot agreements, which we just got to learn about, taxbased growth factor, inflation rate, which is the consumer price index, debt service exclusions for capital projects, which we have going on, both these exclusions, New York State pension increases, and carryover. And a couple of these don't even impact us. So the first is our tax base growth factor. Ours is 32%. This is just the growth factor of our actual tax base. This just accounts to adjust the levy base for new taxable property. It is not a growth rate for the tax world. Just new growth in the community and that's set by New York State and released by the controller. The next is inflation and allowable tax levy growth. This is what I

152was just referring to when I referenced consumer price index. This references the increase of cost of living. This is our inflation factor. We have to use the lesser of 2% or what we are designated by New York State this year was 2.63%. So we would escalate our growth factor by 2% because we have to take the lesser of two or the set rate exclusions. You'll hear me talk about this a lot during budget season. Uh you heard Boseis talk about this tonight. This is just the local share of expenses that have either been voter approved in prior years principal and interest for bonds and other expenses mentioned in the law to be excluded from percent increases. In our case, exclusions are capital project, boseis, and debt service. Um, I just have our rates there. So,

153just for messaging purposes, so we know what ours are. Uh, Kelum receives 84% in building aid and on capital projects and 74% in transportation aid for buses. Tax levy limit is just the total amount of money the district can raise that requires a simple majority vote which is 50% plus one pilot. I'll tell you that one again. Give me the next slide please. Debt exclusions we talked about. I'll say it again. that goes into the um formula and I'll just mention there BPD helps us with that to keep our tax cap and our tax rate pretty flat by managing how much debt we have as a local share in a finance from year to year. Pension increases this can come into play if the TRS or the ERS increase by more than 2%. TRS is

154set to have a slight or projected rather a slight decrease this year by about 1% and ERS same thing but there are several different tiers a slight increase by about 1% so we won't be impacted by this exclusion and carryover we are not excl or uh this does not apply to us either but I figured I would do the math for you anyways in order for districts to be eligible for carryover district must have an actual tax levy less than the tax levy limit So, or 1.5% of the tax lily limit before exclusion. So, our exclusion for or I'm sorry, our 1.5% would be $118,000. The difference between our tax levy limit from last year to this year was $643. Can't use a negative, so we go to zero because zero is the lesser of

155the two. We're not eligible for carryover. Okay. And then this is just old news to you guys, I know, but I wanted to include it. There's two different um avenues for this budget vote. One is proposing a tax levy that is at or below the tax cap. That's a simple majority vote, which I mentioned earlier, 50% plus one vote required to pass the budget. That doesn't mean that's where a school district in New York State has to stay. You can go over that. to go over that you need a supermajority vote which would be 60% yes for the community. All right. So our draft tax levy limit for this year is 1.97%. I'm going to show you how we got there. So I'll run through this and try not to be too too much too

156mathy for you guys. But the prior tax levy this year, you know, is $7,923,478,000. The growth factor we talked about, which compensate or accounts for tax levy base growth, right? So just property growth within our municipalities is 32%. So we're going to multiply that by 1.0032. That's going to escalate us to that 7.9 million number. That's our adjusted tax levy. As I mentioned before, we're going to add in our pilots from last year because that was still tax related revenue that came into the district. So, we add that in. Then, we subtract out our exclusions. Those are things that we paid buses finance between bus revenue and financing um capital exclusions, the capital project going on, Bosey's exclusions, and our debt service. So that comes off the top because that went to pay um all

157of those exclusions that we had to manage. That gives us our adjusted prior year tax levy which is 7.8 million. Then that gets escalated by inflation. That's where the inflation number comes in the two or the 2.63% number. The lesser of those is two. So we're going to multiply by 1.02. That escalates us to 8 $ 8.04 million. Then we're going to subtract out this year's pilot payments, which we're projecting at $144,000, and that gets us to 7.86 million. And then we do the opposite. If you're looking up top with the exclusions, we subtract them prior year. We add them current year. We're going to add in our exclusions, which you'll notice is pretty flat, which is by design. 182.9 was last year. This year's 183.3. Small increase. We add that in, we get $8

158million. Well, I'll read through the whole thing. $8 million7 79,446. That's our maximum allowable tax cap. That's how much we can collect this year. That is an increase of 1.9684%. So, a dollar amount to that to give context would be $155,968. So the the maximum we can go out with a simple majority vote for the 2627 fiscal year is 1.97%. And we don't have to go to the question slide. I'd like to leave this up and just do you have any questions on tax cap. >> It's good that that's below two because that's what people think that's the rule >> the CPI. Yes. to take it gets very confusing with um >> the consumer price index being something or other >> 2.3% >> people probably saying why >> yeah yeah >> and that's just a

159guard rail >> no questions taught math for a long time I'm used to it >> I'll just add that the exclusions being really flat is why we want an IMA we want to continue to control that which BPD does for us so well. Thanks, Brennan. >> Thank you, >> Brennon. >> Thanks, >> man. We're just full of really exciting things this year. >> This next one is the draft of the budget guidelines. Um, so this won't take long. Uh, the board establishes budget guidelines each year. Uh, so that as we begin to build the budget, we've really outlined whose responsibility is what. Uh so your budget guidelines for 2627 actually read almost the same as last year's uh because they do set sort of the expectation that the board has had around how we're going

160to do budget development. So the board will provide funds to support the district's mission, vision, and core beliefs. That is in fact what our budget is for. Uh the board will develop a budget that will fulfill all contractual obligations, health and safety requirements, applicable state and federal mandates, and all of our legal requirements. The board will support the recruitment, hiring, and retention of employees of the highest quality. So, our budget will make sure that we account for that. The board will also provide fiscal accountability while maintaining the community's investment in facilities and infrastructure. You're always going to see those portions of our budget that make sure that we're taking very good care of our property. The board shall appropriate fund balance to offset the local tax levy while maintaining a long-term fiscal health strategy aligned

161to the district's reserve plan. That's actually the one that I made edits on. Uh that for a couple of years has had an actual fixed number in it. Uh last year after the budget um when we went back up for our second budget, we actually increased the amount of reserves that we were going to use to make sure that the budget was um feasible for our community. So, I've removed the number there because in the end, I think as we're building this budget, the board will be making those decisions along the way of what we think uh the community needs from us in budget development and how we will maximize and utilize our reserves to do that. >> Um let's see, Sherry, you scrolled number six. Okay. The board will maintain financial will maintain financially

162prudent and sustainable reserve accounts. Uh we have spent some time talking about what the reserves do for us uh and why we need them. So we certainly want to be in the habit of keeping our reserves healthy and our long-term fiscal health. Now the administration has some responsibilities in budget development. Administration will take into account the board's goals and make the necessary budget allocations with the aim of tightly controlling expenditure growth. We know that's an expectation of yours. The administration will provide high quality professional development for its employees. The administration will replace antiquated equipment, equipment past its useful life expectancy according to the comprehensive replacement plan when feasible. Uh, as we talked about last year, um, we do get to sort of the end of the year if we feel like we're going to have

163fund balance. We do start to look at funding some of those plans that we cannot fit into our budget. So, we've got a technology replacement plan that we can't necessarily afford. So you see us buy some things at the end of the year once we know that we've been able to deliver on all the programs and there's a little money left to do that with. Um so you'll see that still the administration will evaluate its debt service to maximize effectiveness. The administration will use the foundation aid revenue projections based on Governor Hokll's executive budget proposal of January 2026 and the impact of the property tax cap on long-term planning. The district shall develop a budget with the goal of offering appropriate, regular, advanced, and specialized programming that is of high quality and prepare students to

164be ethical, responsible lifelong learners who are both college and career ready. And the district will maintain transparency by providing clear and accessible budget information to the school community and stakeholders. So the these budget guidelines, as I said, they've not changed too much. we have maybe gotten a little bit more clarity around the roles and responsibilities in the last two years as we've made some edits to these. Um, but now we are in draft. By the time we meet again, these will come out of draft and be final. So, if you have any concerns, questions, comments, changes that you think we should discuss, we are certainly open to editing the the guideline document. >> Looks good. Thanks. >> Thank you, Dr. Chanel. We're moving on to our final order of business um before moving into executive

165session. It's the first reading of board policy number 5681, school safety plans. Um this is the first read. It'll come back to us the 24th >> for approval. Dr. Schnel, would you like to speak to anything on that? >> Absolutely. So, there has been changes in this particular policy because the school district now has to make sure that we are sending AEDs off campus. And I say that because we actually are pretty well equipped with AEDs. So, let me talk a little bit about the change. The change does require a AEDs to be around your facility to be external AEDs where folks can get to them um if they happen to be on our baseball field, our softball field, out on our track. We actually are pretty ahead of that. Um, we've had a district

166in as part of our district-wide safety plan, we've always had a section on AEDs. So, we do a fairly decent job managing that. What I would say is the change in this policy is that now we are required to make sure that we have AEDs even off our campus if the event that we are holding is um athletic in nature or that kids would be exerting themselves physically. So, I'll give you an example. If we're going to go to uh Perry school and we're going to participate in a tennis match, we are going to have access to an AED because the school will have it. But when we send our cross country team to a park, >> there is no AED there. We will now be required by board policy and by state regulation that

167we are taking uh AEDs with us wherever we go. So things like field trips, like I think about the kids that go on the field trip and they're going to play hard climbing hay hay bales or whatever it is that they're doing that we would be sending an AED. It also means that we're going to be training our teachers in how to use an AED. So should they ever need one, they would know how to do it and not be learning it for the first time. You'll be glad to know that across the district because we have so many teachers that actually coach for us that there are so many folks inside the walls of our school that are trained not just in AED use but also in CPR. AED will now be something that

168we will make sure we spread across our entire faculty. So those are really the big changes that this policy maps for us. Um AEDs cost us about $2,500 a piece. So, this will increase the number of AEDs that we have to have and we have already put in an order uh to make sure that we have enough AEDs to meet the board's updated policy. >> Thank you. Any questions? >> The maintenance cost of the AED, what is the Is it an annual maintenance or is it a >> No, I'm actually going to make Megan speak to it just so I don't have to talk on top of my head. Go ahead, Megan. >> Sure. Uh, we have a replacement plan to replace them every three years. They have an expiration date on them. Um the

169the units that we have now don't require any other external parts. We used to have pads and batteries that expired at different times and everything else. Now they all come and they're also all uh portable. Every one of them um even if they're in the lock boxes like by the auditorium, that's a portable portable machine, too. Um but they all have a threeyear um we have a three-year replacement plan for them. they expire uh later than that. But what we found is if something happens to them, they the company stops like servicing them and they they don't want to hear about it um beyond about three years. >> Okay. >> So, fun fact, Megan is in charge of all of our AED planning. >> I was going to ask I was going to ask you,

170Megan. Um for our company we have our AEDs and uh we have this very had this very expensive program for inspecting them once a month and the um it was cynas and they charge us a couple hundred bucks per AED per year >> for an inspection program. So um it's not required so we just do it oursel. >> I didn't know if you had the same type of train actually Matt Ken in the middle high school. She's a certified trainer through the uh Red Cross to train people on their use. Um and she goes and checks every um ad in the district monthly. She keeps a log that she's seen it, she's tested it, and it's functioning. >> Okay, cool. >> Good. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. >> I enjoy putting that on the spot

171a little bit because I think in the end you could wonder like what does the director of people services do? What doesn't she do with it? Does it do with school nursing, health, safety, risk management of kids and and their health? It's Megan. >> Thank you. We're going to move to executive session. Resolve that the board of education adjourn to executive session at 8:09 p.m. for the purpose of discussing the following matters pursuant to public office. Discussions concerning the employment employment history of particular persons and matters leading to appointment of absence and resignation. Discussions related to collective negotiations with CMTA and confidential student records protected by FURPA. May I please have a motion please? >> I'll make it. >> Motion by Arie. Second. >> Second by Becca. Uh all in favor say I. >> I.

172>> Any opposed? That is um carried 6. >> I cannot tell you. >> I'll be there. >> Jersey. >> Resolved that the board of education return to regular session at 9:08 p.m. May I have a motion, please? >> I'll make it. >> Mike second. >> Second, >> Peggy. All in favor say I. >> I. Any oppose? Motion is carried. We're going to move to personnel. Personnel 1 through 11. Number one, approval role of volunteer and inner scholastic coaches. Number two, approval of leave of absence. Number three, appointment of mentor. Number four, approval of MOA. Number five, appointment of the hero lea designate. Number six, appointment of pest management coordinator. Number seven, appointment of consultant to the part department of transportation. Number eight, appointment of middle high school musical choreographer. Number nine, resignation of cook manager

173for purpose of retirement. Number 10, approval of school to work students. Number 11, approval of substitute. May I have a motion, please? >> I'll make it. >> Arie second. >> Second. >> Peggy second. Any discussion? >> All in favor say I. I I any opposed? That motion is carried 6. >> Move to adjournment. Resolve that the board of education adjourn the meeting of February 10th, 2026 at 9:09 p.m. May have a motion, please. >> I'll make it. >> Motion, Mike. Second. >> Second, Peggy. All in favor say I. >> I. Any opposed? Motion carried. Have a good evening, everyone. See you. Um, >> Two weeks. 4:30.