001here Mr HED here M rzy Dr Harris Mohamed present B here mrar mandz here mad we have thank you now we will need to add a motion to the agenda mad Mr princial Madam chair Ive that we amend the agenda to add a closed session and adopt the agenda as amended that second it's been moved by Mr P and seconded by Dr Harris Muhammed to um amend the agenda and accept as amended thank you Mr P yes Mr car yes Mr per yes Mr HED yes Miss Rizzy Dr Harris muhamad yes Miss B yes Mr jaar yes Miss Fernandez yes Madam chairman thank you and now we'll move to item two budgetary items Mr Camas thank you good evening everyone good evening I would like to hopefully achieve three objectives this evening one I would
002like to update the board about the revenue picture for next year um we just got information based on uh the general assembly budget so we have a clear picture of where we stand I want to talk through that with the board second I want to make sure since we haven't had a chance to discuss the CIP budget to answer any questions that folks have about that and then third and perhaps most importantly would like to uh hear from the board if there is a consensus around uh any modifications to the budget proposal so that we can update uh the proposed budget for the board's consideration at our meeting on March 3rd and then approval on March 4th I do want to note uh there are two items uh that have been shared already that we
003will include one is an addition of $40,000 for Foya support a tracking platform the other is $25,000 for professional development for the board so we make sure that both of those items are included in the final proposal but of course any other changes I want to make sure that we capture those this year with that I want to start with a Revenue picture so I uploaded this document to board dos I also emailed it to the board um try to keep it as simple as possible yes ma'am you say how much school board professional development is that 25,000 yes ma'am okay for each district or total okay yes um SE six and then it's all right uh so we have the document up on the screen and um I'll give folks an opportunity to pull
004it off of board dos as well I'm going to start with an explanation of What's called the fund balance the fund balance is in essence how much money from our operating budget is left over at the end of the year what happens with those funds is that they automatically revert back to the city and then typically those funds then get reallocated back to RPS here's the cash two years later and let me explain why if you think about it we're right now in the middle of a fiscal year we won't know how much is left over until the end of this fiscal year which is June 30th but we're making our budget for next year right now so whatever is left over at the end of this year the city will reappropriate to us not
005for this coming year but for the year after that so we're always two years behind when it comes to what is most important for our discussions this evening is the following three years ago our fund balance was $1 million that was a year we were coming out of the pandemic we had a lot of vacancies and that usually drives your fund balance because if you don't have people in positions you have unspent funds then two years ago our fund balance was one so we went from 11 to one what that means is in essence a loss of 10 million in Revenue which we are going to experience in this coming Year's budget right because we're now two years from that Delta all that to say in essence we start 10 million in the night in
006terms of Revenue we pause there and just ask any questions any any clarifying questions about the fund balance Mr B thank you madam chair M chair Mr Camas when you say that we will experience the $10 million loss in this budget you mean fy6 correct in the the budget we're discussing now for next year Dr Harris muhamed yes is that the way that the city um has set up their funding a corporation to us for it to be two years behind or is that a map for all relations between school divisions in their city or county I I do not want to speak without full information I believe that is how it occurs everywhere given the timing of how it works thank you when you say left over can you clarify with that but any
007in essence it is unspent funds so uh if we have say a teacher vacancy that was in our budget uh for salary and benefits at let's say $90,000 and we never filled that vacancy over the course of the year here that $90,000 winds up in our fund because we never spent it okay so when you add up all of those different pieces that's where you get to the fund and so the I understand that it's essentially money that was left on the table because we weren't able to use those funds um can you help me understand why that means there's a deficit if we're adding it back to the budget yep so think of it this way one year we got we had 11 million left over that we got and so we experienced that
008as great we got 11 million more when it came back to us the next year we were only getting 1 million so we were we we experiencing a loss because we were spending that million but now we're only getting one it is rare that we have a fund balance so large it was unique to the pandemic or usually our fund balance is in the one to2 million range and so we don't experience this level of fluctuation year to year this is a un okay Mr person oh sorry iess there just a follow up on on your question you kind of asked it I was trying to understand the leftover balance does not inform the amount of money that we will get in the next cycle cor the second cycle it just shows up so relatively
009speaking in one cycle we are $10 million in a whole but if we if we had a $100 budget one year and we only spent 90 which is where we are it's $10 left over but if each year we get $100 we're still going to get $1 it's just one year we got 110 and now we're back to 100 exactly right thank okay the good news is based on the general assembly's now approved state budget which of course needs to be signed by the governor and and so there could still be some modifications but I do think a lot of what is in the education portion of the budget there was broad consensus on WE rough we are going to yield plus 10 million which in essence closes the whole created by the fun balance
010brings us back to even that is the late breaking news which is exciting what is yes so thank you to the general simpley and to our delegation to everybody that worked the unknown piece is the new allocation that we will get from the city we won't know that until the mayor proposes his budget and then City coun remixes their determination I've given you three scenarios these are completely madeup scenarios in the first scenario we get 10 million from the Su second scenario we get 15 and the third we get 20 I will tell you over the last three or four fiscal years the high water Mark has been plus 21 million from the C just so you have a context I will also share my understanding is the city is going through a lean year
011and so while we will certainly get an increase I think it would be fair to say it will not be an increase of the magnitude that we would all love it to what the the big headline from this chart is in essence our new revenue is going to come down to what our allocation is for Su right because our state money gets us back to zero and so if the city gives us 10 million in new Revenue then we're going to have 10 million to work with as the addition for our budget next year I say all that to say as we head into our later discussion about any changes we want to make keep in mind just the collective bargaining portion of the budget prop is $16.5 million addition right so we would need
012unless we make Cuts somewhere else we would need 16.5 million from the city just to meet our Collective bargain agreements and do nothing else in the budget proposal that I put forth Just pause there and make sure folks are following me on the map Mr person thank you madam chair Ju Just so I understand I appreciate the the diagram that's put before us but I want to make sure that from a fisal standpoint that we didn't look at that $1 million and say we can start spending this much each year moving forward that to me would seem like a windfall that came out of the co era so did our did our budget reflect that as a onetime only Ty of spend it was largely used to help us wean ourselves off the covid relief
013dollars and I will note to the prior board credit unlike many school systems around the country we did not have any layoffs coming out of those Co relief dollars in part because we did use some of the the fund balance but also because we made a lot of I think thoughtful decisions about how to do so just follow up on that um thank you superintendent for that where are we in the Leaning process we are weed that's it we're off any other questions about just the general picture great then what I'd like to do is move on to uh the CIP portion of the budget let me pull I think the best document for us to use is the budget memo if you'd like to pull that building and scroll to page 33 that is
014where the CIP projects begin uh you'll notice that they are grouped by category the first set are some Ada Americans with Disabilities Act projects to make our buildings more accessible largely dealing with elevators then scroll to the next page we have several proposed athletic Investments uh largely related to playgrounds and some gym space keep scrolling the next category is electrical the next category is fire safety you'll see uh replacing several alarm panels This is because we still have some older models and the parts are becoming obviously Le so we want to replace them with modern ones the next category you see is HVAC uh this has a number of different items have to he yes thank you madam chair Mr Camas I do not see um Martin Luther King preschool listed for agback and they
015have um sent several requests about their agback system um I can forward that information that has always been sent to me um if we can take a look at that look at the needs of the HX system at MLK preschool I know that is one of the new were preschool centers but also um not quite sure of the age of that system and so we could possibly add that for review consideration and update and I can for information a few minutes thank you that would be great and I failed to mention uh fo is ill as our menu for children this evening so she's not able to be here this evening to provide more of the specifics but yes Dr haris M do some that to me I can certainly um add that to the
016list you'll notice then we have a couple of Paving projects uh a few Plumbing related projects a roof for Richmond community on page 38 and then a few structural projects which take us to the end at 39 again just to calibrate expectations um the the total here I believe is somewhere on the order of 16 million in uh most of our prior years we've received about 2.5 million last year we received a much higher amount about 17 million however 10 of that was reallocated from the city's new school fund into our maintenance fund so you may recall we have 200 million to build uh the New Richmond High School for the Arts along with the new CTE Center potentially bill so that's now 190 because City allocated 10 of that into our maintenance budget to
017do these big capital projects I do not anticipate that happening again this year nor would it necessarily be in our interest as it further reduces our ability to execute on those new scho construction projects I only share that to say for example I would be delighted to add MLK preschool in um but I would not be doing my duty if I did not articulate that it is unlikely that everything that is currently in this list we will be able to do as 2.5 million as you can see the r Community itself is 1.7 um and I know there are all sorts of needs including windows that red Elementary unlike many other and so again I'm happy to make any modifications to the proposal that the board would like to see I just want to make
018sure the manage expectations about where we will likely be come later in the spring where we're going to have to make some decisions I think it might be helpful um if we could understand out of these categories what are the main priorities because without that it's really hard for us to really gaug because we had for example um you know five or six schools with Ada um requirements I don't know if they're requirements or not but um you know wanting to expand Ada um usage which is uh very important um and so just wanting to understand what are some things that we've got to do now um so that when we come together to really make this very hard decision we really have more Intel to go on um outside of what what is listed
019here absolutely so when we know really what our number is I will come back to you all with the prioritized list what is truly critical has to happen um and what is needs to happen and what is we would really like to happen and um uh list all of that so that you all can make the best possible decision any questions on that while we're on the topic uh we also uploaded a document that lists the current capital projects um this green bell if you don't mind pulling that up as well and that one is called FY 25 CIP project update one of the questions uh that some of you have asked and some of your constituents have asked and some of our staff have asked is uh why haven't all the projects that were
020approved in last year's budget why are they not all done or in process of being done and you can see here what's in progress what hasn't started yet and so on as a reminder These funds for example for next year won't become available until July 1 then we have to for example if we're going to build a new roof have to put that project out to bid that can take several months then we make a determination award a contract then of course if you're going to do the roof of a building you can't do it while kids are there and so we have specific window Windows when we can do the work typically it's the summer and so you'll see on that document that I'm referencing for example uh in the fourth column over that
021says schedule you'll see a lot of them say summer 2025 because these are all being teed up to get done and so there's about a year lag time from when it winds up in the budget when it actually M thank you madam chair thank you for this detailed report Mr C I have two questions my first question is I'm I'm assuming that this list came from the faciliity study or this is the listing of what what's in progress of what we need to do or have we not address the facility study and the reason I'm asking that is we have quite a few schools um that need there and that's a very expensive project to have their roofs um replaced so I'm trying to think with the facility study of which I need to go
022back and review um how do we get to the point where we don't have 10 12 schools at the same time of sites that need to have their rooftops through place so my first question is are we utilizing the fail study that was done to determine this list and my second ask is that in using that or whatever we did use is this based upon what people have put in place that they need to have but I'm going back also to this Fernandez question um I want everything done Seventh District and ins sign it's inevitable right all right but it may be six District or First District or whatever that has something that was on the list according to facility study that needs to be addressed first so as you choose what's what or as
023we choose I want some B in place to verify why this was chosen and not that so my question is we PID what half million for that facility study I hope that it's before us I know I need to go back person and pull it up um because at some point I hope we get away from having such long list of the same type we're going to be drain finan so to keep from doing that how can we better play and it's already been done tell me I'll stop but right now my main question is was the facility study used and we utilize that yet to determine what needs to be addressed in a timely manner thank you thank you madam chair this list the answer is no because this is the list that the
024last board approved for the last budget so this list is from a year ago which precedes us getting those facility assessments so we're working through these from a year ago going forward yes we are going to be using the facility assessments to determine you know where we prioritize I will note the facility assessments called for believe it was $47 million of Maintenance today to prevent us from having issues down the again as a reminder we typically get 2.5 so uh we will use the facility assessments to guide us um the the challenge always is going to be youin that 47 million what Rises to the top for the fin other questions there all right then I would love to draw everyone's attention back to the memo but we'll go back up to the top and
025there's no fancy way to do this other than to go Page by Page and to open it up to see if there are any modifications that there's a consensus of the board that you would like to make so with that I will start with priority one page one academics um first page is the reading Investments the one called FY 26 budg it looks like this [Music] all right good yes sir okay so what I'm sorry I think you say your question yes my question is if any board members would like to make any recommendations about modification this would be the time to voice those and the board can have a discussion and come to some consensus so I'll start with page one any tickers Mr par U just a question for clarity so as we
026go through these are these proposed new SPS everything in here propos new yes all right who like to start Harris Mohamed well I just would like to start start with not being confused um so are you asking us like if if we would like to add positions or take away some something out of here so if it's something under academics that um okay so I'm just go ahead and say so there is not a math coach at o b me it is not the principal has confirmed that Chief academic officer the elementary has confirmed that there is not a math so if that's the type of question that you're asking then yes I did see the budget answers to the questions that board members have but there is not a current math coach at o
027Bell meeting it was in the process of being addressed but the talent office did not follow through and the person they had in mind coming from a different Elementary School Miles Jones not that we was stealing from the ninth but that person um was not transferred and so they left the division all together and went to another school division so if that's the type of thing that you're asking that's why me cl then yes I will start there because it is not one there it is also not fulltime math coach at over sheer Elementary School we share it is my understanding that we were not sharing interventionist coaches and Specialists if that is not if that is not the understanding then let me know because two schools who have made tremendous progress in literacy and
028math who would who had fulltime people in the building that are now that part-time people people in the building in those areas it deeply concerns me about taking resources out of that building when we made tremendous progress particularly at over um o and OB shepher is is that what you were asking Mr C I'm sorry thank you mam chair I do want to distinguish between uh positions and people so for example there is a math Coach position at the school I believe it is not filled as a result there's not a budgetary implication if we didn't have the position then yes we would want to add one into the budget so what I'm asking is based on the proposal that is before you are there any additions deletions or changes of any kind that there's
029a consensus from the board that you would like to see so that I can build those in or rather Miss BR can build them in to a final budget proposal were you to consider at your meeting next week I am I am open to any process the chair and I spoke briefly and we thought it would be easiest just to go kind of in order step by step um just to make it easy for everybody mney thank you madam chair so that was part of my question Mr Camas you would rather this time focus on global like recommendations you're making in this memo rather than looking at that kind of level of detail we're looking at things at each school is that what we're doing right now uh I welcome any okay recommendations that the
030board has I just wanted to start with the proposal that's before the board so so I know if there's any modifications to make there um but of course if there are any other changes that board members would like to see and there's a consensus on the board to make I'm happy to to capture those as well yeah I just um I just think that that would take an enormous amount of time if we're going to go into that kind of detail like I can say well AIA Street doesn't have you know support with interventionists right and someone else could say the same thing about other schools and that seems like would take an an order amount of time if we went with that level detail tonight so that's that's that's only my that's my concern
031and then I do have a question about okay I I I defer to the board if if board members um have very detailed sort of that level um that you want to share uh via email that that's fine I'm happy to gather those uh again I just need to know where the board stands so that we can craft a budget that reflects your wishes or your consideration for next week um so to the extent we can gather as much of that this evening and then my question sorry um you know I was looking at the first part the literacy part and not the decodables you know I saw that those are primarily K gr two but you don't specify that that's only what they are and so I just wanted to plug the fact that
032I've been in schools I don't know if there have been curriculum changes in the last year or so but like a lot of the novels that were being used at the middle school level didn't seem to include anything that the students could relate to or you know anything close to their experiences and it seemed a bit disjointed to ask teachers to teach from novels that are actually not accessible to our students and so I was wondering if any work had been done to think about that I I don't have anything this evening to speak to that directly but happy to thank you Mr per and then thank you madam chair I want to say first I appreciate the work that staff has put into creating this budget obviously we are all aware of the financial
033constraints and we all live in this world where we have many many needs and there's never enough that we can do for our children but we have hard decisions ahead that being said I'm open to Mr C's proposal to go through it by item if we need to um I have a list of budget changes specifically reductions that I have proposed and I'm open to hearing other board members thoughts but we did not have a chance to sit down and talk through and come to consensus but it is my intention to propose a series of changes to make it for the $4 million Healthcare cost increase or have a conversation about how we should dramatically reduce that because that is going to be an ongoing issue not just for RPS but for all employers um
034so defer to you madam sh and Mr cameras but that just wanted to announce my intention to do that thank you hold that thought and then we'll come back to it once we per this thank you madam chair um I also would like to go back to the depes um I thought 73,000 was an insufficient amount of money we expect every student K to have we basing that upon what we've ordered in the past and my second answer is that the books that are whatever is chosen for the students to read um how are they chosen is this something recommended by the state or are specialist choosing the books and then other item on the literacy is the home literacy which I I think that's awesome but um 81,000 would be great every student does
035have books beyond the classroom setting for reinforcement and also the training for parents as well and caregivers I love that I have 81,500 basing that off of one and are there any we think in terms of cuts litery of course should be number one but for something such as this are there Partnerships that could defer that cost um maybe through our Educational Foundation um we can use that 81,000 Elsewhere for instance as M just stated regarding the healthare which is a great concern of M as well and I stated that before so I would like us to revisit because they're really small amounts of money but we may have are organizations D Pon has an organization um each child we whatever the organization they are National organizations that will provide books for every child and
036they don't even have to come to the school they can be mailed to the child's home and then they fig that's a problem then it would come to the school but um I love the concept thank you for the work that's been put in place but some of these items I'd like to rearrange financially and I like what Miss R stated regarded and that's always been an issue with many of our students the assess of which they take is not aligned to what they see it do every day not all of our students but the major and my students so at some point there needs to be a balance thank you you question um only to say that I agree um certainly we will continue to pursue Partnerships to assist with this I will also
037say um our brand new colleague Mr Cooper at the Ed fund is actively working to fundraise for many of these things as well so um I take that to heart and those are avenues that we are pursuing thank you Dr Harris M thank you mad chair Mr the cameras um a great deal have gone into how we're going to continue to teach learn and train our um staff on the literacy the the literacy plan and the bullets that are mandates um but what I would like for us to consider is how literacy and the reading of mathematics is critically important as we know the math assessments have changed um under the new standards and as I was reviewing a document that is well put together and I thank you all for that there is not
038much to address how we're going to continue to train our math coaches because here we have coaches and Specialists or coaches and interventionists um so however we categorize them and whatever their um their roles are which is not up to the board how are we going to financially train them hand in hand with being able to read the mathematics that has changed change in alignment with so we're putting a lot of work and a lot of money in our literacy plan which I agree we should do but I don't want it to be at the cost of not focusing on the area of mathematics and so that is a concern and if that is in here and I didn't see it please let me know um so I'm not speaking of budgeted positions I'm speaking
039of the training that I didn't see thank you Mr C thank you madam chair uh you're correct there's no additional new investment here explicitly around mathematics uh can work because resources are finite but also what I would argue is the investment in literacy is an investment in mathematics in social studies um in science and so on because precisely what you noted so much of those subjects now hinge on students ability to read at a proficient level and so we view this uh and the research supports as the sort of Lynch pin investment um if we can get uh our our students to a proficient and joyful uh level of being able to read then a lot of those other issues uh open up I will also say just because there's no addition in here that
040does not mean that the current work will stop it does we have a a small But Mighty math team they'll continue to work continue to do all the great things that they're doing um these all that we're reflecting here is additions okay thank you Mr jaari thank you m new to the process so I'm trying to PL along here trying let some sink in but one thing is just overwhelming I just heard that final forecast that was blo me to say the least and then I look at what looks like like a Christmas basic W list of items just just just down here and even if we go by these things one by one I guess my initial question is how do we PID I we got be realistic here how do we we can't
041just sit here and just go one by one by one by one and we have nothing at the end us to pay this Stu so so what I'm saying off the top is um I think that the budget needs to be brought to us first of all in a way that's realistic in Alliance with the forecast that we're looking at and this is really this this budget is really just not feasible looking at what we are facing now I've asked for some information about the uh the grant fun positions and I'm a read person I have to see it in data I have to see it in front of me power points don't do it for me I like to see how we arrived at this and I like to see the justification if I'm
042going to applicate for something I want to know that is meeting what the objectives were when we put it in place I I I want to know this when I ask my colleagues and after go around this table and look at this person and say well this is necessary because um one and I not looked at all of them but when I looked at one of the engagement officers duties that they do one of those is like outreaching communities for uh housing instability or families find and housing instability situations uh I used to work for social services I was outre case manager for homelessness so the immediate question that popped in my mind how we duplicating services that the City offers and so we have to look at this we have to streamline this we
043can't do duplicate things that other people are doing and and we simply not in a position to do that we don't have money to Simply convert every rank funded position that is expiring into a full-time paying job and and if I'm missing something of course I to be new here tell me what I'm not see Mr I think you're 100% right Mr um look if we of course face a challenging Revenue picture and as I articulated at the beginning I think it is likely that the only thing in this entire 40 page document that we will be able to afford is our collective bargaining AGP so if you ask me tonight to put forward a budget proposal that I think is realistic given everything I know about our current revenue forecast that is what I
044would propose to you this evening period for sign I'm sensitive to the fact however that it is a little bit putting the cart before the horse because we don't yet know exactly what we're getting from the city but from everything I do know and from his historical Investments that we've received again I think that is likely all that we will be able to afford and so I serve at the pleasure of the board and so happy to go in whatever Direction you all would like to if you would defer to the chair and all of you if you would like to continue to go through and identify what um if if the Lord would like to do some belt tightening now or we can do it when the budget comes back to us in the
045spring as it certainly will with the final members and I I truly I defer but but if you ask me if the consensus of the board was Mr Camas give us a budget proposal that you think is realistic and that is what I would give tonight thank you um Mr Camas toes for sharing perspective and about this much needed discussion it's extremely difficult right to have to choose between um your children and and say which one you feel is your favorite right we we need a lot of things but I think we have to be realistic it's 6:47 and we have to make some hard decisions tonight and and and and a part of that is is really sharing um to Mr Faro's Point some of the highlighted items that you feel we can scale
046back we just have to start having that conversation um I'm I'm open to um being a part of that conversation he uh Mr Peru led the way so I can you know obviously allow him to yield yield that to him to to to start the conversation but there are a couple items that I see that perhaps um that we have needs I'm getting some feedback I don't know what that is but um um um okay thank you um some items that for example um multi um multilingual learning teachers um to meet the new enhanced bo bo e bdoe ratios we're at 5.5 million my question is I understand um that we are trying to really wrap our arms around the new mandates but if 55 is not a realistic number what could we what could
047we settle on in the in the short term right so if we couldn't say 55 multilingual Learners we want that we we know we need that but to my colleagues point this is a wish list we're not going to get everything that we want so if we could start looking at it from that perspective of okay maybe we don't get 55 maybe we get 25 or maybe we start off with 10 um so I just want to know um like as an as that example is there a way for us to reduce without um too much impact I would agree that um finding 55 uh ml teachers uh that are qualified and prepared to teach an RPS is an extremely tall order I think it's much more realistic to talk about 10 to 15 uh
048quite frankly um yeah so that is my first proposal is to reduce the amount of what we have listed from 55 to 10 to 15 my only question is U perhaps for Miss bra is that state money tied to those positions specifically such that if we only try to higher 10 then we're going to get the fund can you do want coming up everybody what you said is absolutely true that money is typed to that particular um um regulation that particular um Mand Mand that the department of put out so I think it'll be helpful to for that to be called out here right so if we are as we're making this this this um these decisions we know that okay if we're looking to cut we can't necessarily you touch that because it's wrapped
049into um funding that that requires it to be listed for just that so that wouldn't impact our bottom line does that make sense so that would be I think helpful to understand as well thank you so much for that absolutely and um I will uh try to uh see if there's anything else like that for your I just happen to call out the one that that's a 50 example but um Miss rzy did have a question and then um Mr P yes she she had been acent for a long time thank you madam chair you know this Mr jafar's comment just reminded me um that I guess it's been more than a year ago the city with our approval conducted um and actually commissioned the children's funding project we did get the um results of
050and that project was supposed to work to identify places where we may have you know redundancies right or places where we might be duplicating services and also identify areas of savings or perhaps ways we could streamline what we offer so that we work better with the city to make the most of the resources you know that came out we got the results and then there was nothing said about it afterwards and I know that study cost some money so I'm wondering if that is something that is just dead in the water or if that's something we can return to and look at as we're having these discussions thank you m chair thank you Mr um I don't know that uh there were any specific recommendations from my recollection from the report that you know maybe
051we could cut back here or cut back there um regardless I'm happy to uh raise it with the city I do think given the change in administration and with new Council everyone is still trying to wrap their heads around everything so I'm not sure they are best position most immediately to make some of those determinations um but but certainly happy to to raise good City 19k you um you know as far as I know the EHS committee is still basically the same and so yeah I think it may be wor this I wanted to add really quickly um I just had a a conversation today with Council woman Nicole Jones specifically about the E uh HS and they're um wanting for us to perhaps come together um if not monthly uh quarterly to discuss the
052things along these round this this lens right so if if we are duplicating efforts how can we um have a more um concise process and flow for example um families in transition how can we work in collaboration with the city to Not Duplicate efforts but add value to one another structure um and so you will hear from it's it's almost as if um um Miss Rizzy was in the conversation with me because we I literally just had the call today and so um and wanted to bring it to the board to get your thoughts about um a Cadence and how we can start to have those conversations because it's going to take a team effort and um if we're doing things in a silo or in a bubble we can't really be effective but if
053we come together and kind of share how we can partner to support the families in Community I think we'll um see some really um great results and so more to come with that but um since that was raised I wanted to to touch on that thank you um so Mr ver pel Miss Ricard Mr hedgepath thank you madam sh just a question for clarity going back to miss FR and superintendent point when we talk about 5 a half million for multi language teachers and not being tied does that come out of that $10 million that General Assembly has earmarked or is that over above it's part part of so half of the money they gave us over half of the money that they have designated course can only go to m yeah so it's based
054on like our Composite index for example so 42% of it will come from the state and the other 15 7% will come from RPS just and that's based on our Composite Index and how they fund okay so 55% of the five and a half million will be cover well 45% so just looking roughly speaking there's almost 7 million of video we directed spend so half of that we're looking at three4 million to get that money we have to our so saying we got1 million SL representing our position and that's not that's not directed anyone here in this room but maybe across the street tellas Mr Camas no comment thank you madam chair um I app appreciate my colleague and's point I mean part of me feels like if 16 and a half million is what
055is realistic then let's look at it my other concern is even within your budget there are just typical administrative increases that are probably at least another million um so I feel like we can't really talk our way out of those necessarily um but even to get back to your original exercise of looking at each item one by one you know I'm looking at literacy I know for the dreams for RPS third grade is the target so maybe it's just saying we're going to bring third grade into the fold next year with training for those teachers and the resources they need and hopefully in better years fourth and fifth and so on the same question I have is with the high school Boe how much is that required that we implement it next year or can
056we push it another year and then my final question is um the 16 and a half for the cdas what does that then look like for next year's budget cycle of FY 27 and are we do we focus on satisfying that this year and that then maybe things will be different the following year and we can begin to do that or we going to kind of be here every year which I'm assuming we are but I just still wanted clarification thank you thank you madam shair thank you Mr rard to your last question and please don't blame the messenger there is currently a plan on the part of the city uh to freeze property tax increases in not this coming fiscal year but the one after it's a little bit inside baseball but to get
057the revenue picture on the right cycle with the budget creation picture in the city the bottom line is if that turns out to be actually what occurs since property tax revenue is the biggest driver of revenue for the city and that's the biggest driver for Revenue to RPS from the city we could expect an even leaner year in FY 27 so your question about what do these agreements mean not just next year but the year after I think is an extremely Salient one and one that we're going to have to confront um everybody on this St wants to give every last penny we possibly can to our extraordinary staff um I do worry that we may soonly reaching a point where our reach May exceed our gr on some of the things and so we're
058just going to have to gra um on your other comments I agree um again if I'm putting on my realism hat I don't think any of these reading Investments we're going to be able to do but if we were able to have a degree I would scale it back as you suggested as for things like the increased cost of utilities which we have to pay um look let's just take a thought experiment let's say we get 15 million from the city and we want to meet our collective bargaining agreements which are 16.5 and pay our utility increases and so on and so forth let's say that gets us to 20 meaning we're five million Shing what I would do then is come back to you with reductions right where are positions that we'd say you
059know what we these are important but not Mission credible or this contract we were hoping to do uh we're not going to be able to do so that we could of course you have to passive balance budget that's my honest answer I think that's likely where we will wind up come May Mr HB thank you madam chair uh to kind of continue with the exercise that we've been doing so far uh on the 1.5 extended time uh portion um I know there was a lot of conversation in previous uh meetings about the uh adding more additional our additional RPS 200 schools and um I certainly think that that is something that would be uh a luxury at this point and of course not all also completely uh informed by the data since we haven't U
060had the the latest round of data on that on that next item let's typen for teachers for extended day I wonder if uh like the uh the book Partnerships if there's a way that we can work with Partners uh to to provide extended day opportunities I know we do that already uh with the soccer programs and um tutoring and things like that uh just speaking from from uh conversations I've had with folks in the fourth district but I wonder if that's something that we could continue to do uh and then a second comment back to the uh the comment on the reductions that you might uh likely need to come to us with uh I know during the campaign Trail uh there was a lot of conversation a lot of questions about school consolidation and
061I know that that's not a popular topic to talk about um but uh I'm wondering if the between when we approve our Dream budget at this point and when we receive what we uh will likely have you know not vuring budget from the city um you know before we go through our um you know our acceptance of the final budget and the board have a report of student population versus capacity in in each of our buildings can we have the report on Staffing vacancies in every building can we have link that to the the cost of Maintenance of each of our buildings can we understand the proximity to other neighboring schools uh you know in case there's a need for consolidation of some of our elementary schools uh I understand that there's a real concern
062and need to have Community Schools um I don't want to ever take that away from our families um but I think that that's a reduction that could keep us whole if we if our vacancies are high enough which I've seen what we have vacant in the fourth and I know that we a lot of our schools are are better off than than some of the other districts when it comes to vacancies uh same for student capacity same same for building U maintenance uh and so I would I would like to see a greater picture and then that conversation be uh a discussion point if not at this point at least um when the city comes back with its budget thank you Mr G certainly we can uh provide that information and and that is an
063important conversation to have I I would caution us to not anticipate even if this body were of the mind to entertain consolidation there's no way that that would be able to happen for next school year and so well if that were a conversation the board wanted to have any savings that would potentially come from that I really think we're talking about the next budget cycle to do something like that requires extensive Community engagement um is a very painful process and it's not one that we could launch um you know basically with four months of the school year left so all that to say I'm not at all dismissing and we would happily gather the information I think it's a worthy conversation I don't think the that it would uh yield any Financial savings for this
064upcoming budget so that's thank you I just want to add um while we're while I stop mining on subject um you know I appreciate his his ask in terms of um understanding the population vacancies and so forth and and really want to know that um that's something that we look forward to to getting from you all um I have not been silent in my concerns specific to the south side of Richmond where overpopulation is a huge huge concern and development remains um at an all-time high um in the next uh few years which is going to further exacerbate an already strained population I think four out of our six schools have several trailers already um we just installed four more for one of our schools this past um fiscal year and so while I appreciate
065wanting to try to streamline the process and consolidate I think that at a certain point we're still going to have to have conversations about um a new school and and utilizing some of the properties that we have currently I know we there were discussions last budget session about ruy Road and um some other um Alternatives as relates to that and so I just want to keep that top of mind um so that that is not lost as we think um about this moving forward I know um Dr Harris Muhammad had her hand raised and Miss Rizzy had her hand raised as well M BR would you like to do a first okay um thank you madam chair thank you Mr Camas so to continue with the exercise um until we receive updated data on how
066our current partner pen Foster is working with Richmond Success Academy my recommendation is to remove additional funds for that program um Miss Fernandez thank you I also had the Sens for ML teachers and and as a little funny I was thinking it was ml State and then I had to come back like I'm I'm hry um look at and negotiate the contract with the Special Olympics I don't think we are finding enough Savings in that I I am not saying remove the Special Olympics contract what I am saying is to review that contract and memorandum of understanding to see because right now it is not even cost sharing and so would it be advisable for them to pay 100% And weay no% or 46 just just look at it and see what we can get
067out of that um I thank you Mr hashpath you um mention because we're waiting on the external data we paid for that company to do so um I would suggest releasing the 200 day addition from the budget um Miss rindy thank you for bringing up the city's uh commission report the children fund because one of the things that I remember Mr Camas and that report support was early childhood education and prek programs and sometimes City officials or just our constituency do not understand federal dollars cannot be comingled with any other fund okay and so we may have to reiterate that um the HR office has a large ask financial ask and I and I just recommend I strongly believe since this previous board supported publicly to have an external AIT audit of our talent office
068um I recommend removing and the enhancing and online Recruitment and marketing presence that they are asking at that at that fee right now because the audit may say instead of purchasing that or having money for that the audit may tell us we need to do something different so um and then also one specialist for substit to ensure our schools have the support they need without exception I can't believe I'm saying this but I can believe I'm saying this because right now I think I believe our school administrators should be able to work within their school culture to address the need of not having coverage and so that means having a conversation with um your staff but also I think and this is in no way saying they got to do this what what I'm just
069recommending having a conversation about is we all know that people call off at the last minute um sometimes it can't be helped for whatever reason really the reason is not a discussion but I think that the ca for having one specialist to work with substitutes because of the need that we have for substitutes I think we really need to look at how we're balancing that um and then also the request from the IT department of a additional data analyst and I shared this before um at our meeting a few weeks ago we we have to I don't know if the left hand is always aware of what the right hand is doing we all received an email from one of our staff persons about not supporting that and really I only heard me say that
070I didn't hear any other board members say they they had a question about that so I wanted to be clear about that but what concerns me is we don't know what our schools are doing we have those positions inside our school so I understand that we are purchasing a new student management system I'm absolutely on board with getting rid of Aspen because it's old as baby Jesus so but I also believe that if we have the people in the schools that are currently doing that then we don't need to to budget $12,000 times two for that position in the in the IT department that is my belief because I am in the schools just like my eight colleagues and I know that we have individuals in the school that do that how do I know
071that because they have to collect student data they have to input student data they have to co students they're making calls about treny assentis and all those other things home bound home base all of that so student management system is not just um certain part of that student that data impl we have the people in the building so if we are going to budget for those positions then why not give the individuals in the building the s in that's already doing that work so those are that's excuse me that's my feedback on some recommendations thank you thank you Miss rzy thank you m chair um know without getting too much into the weeds here um outside of our pay grade to do your work um I you know have attended a couple of sessions that
072looked at um some districts and this is just for few consideration some districts have have switched over at least tried to move more in the direction of school-based budgeting where um actually school-based Administration has a lot more input um into how you know we are Staffing and um supporting our schools and I don't know if that's something that you've thought of or like investigated or considering researching because it does seem to work for some districts thank you madam chair um thank you m uh one of the challenges in Virginia is the way school funding works it's very um that the Sops the standards of quality are very formula Dr which does not actually leave schools with a lot of flexibility in terms of how to create their budgets um that being said that is a
073model that I like um and so of course we'd love to figure out how do we get more flexibility at the school level um I also just thank you Dr har Mohamad for your uh suggestions um I'm going to throw out a proposal to the board for your consideration um I would be happy to craft a more modest budget proposal and uh we can pick a number say 25 million instead of 43 million additional Revenue um I defer to you on what we feel that number is and uh we can do the light work on trying to get down to uh a number that feels a little bit more reasonable given the revenue picture um with the understanding that there are some items that I I sense there is a consensus about um already um
074one of them being the uh the healthcare item that Mr F raised um and so if that is amenable to the board that might be the most productive way to help you guys get to a um a consensus um and we can take some of the suggestions we've already heard um right uh some of the items Dr Harris Mohamed listed and others about how to make some of those reductions and we're happy to do that I did want to Circle back to Mr Faro who he shared a few but I wanted to make sure that you called out the other items now um for consideration okay yeah thank you madam chair so uh first I'll just say Mr cam addressing what he said I'm open to following what the will of the board is I
075for one like the idea that our staff and our school system puts forward perhaps what you could call an aspirational budget trying to paint a picture of the things we need because like my colleague Mr perkville said almost a month ago when the budget was first presented there was nothing in here that was like a lousine or something crazy right and all of us who are out in the community we constantly hear of the needs so I'm personally okay with an aspirational budget because I think as Leaders it's part of the communicating that these are the real needs right in the past people have called it like a needs based budget whatever you want to call it I think that's part of communicating and Leadership and then having that conversation with our city council Partners
076but also the public that even though this is what we really need not some fantasy but just Basics this is really where we're at because then that's part of the larger conversation about policy and taxes right so that's one two I'll quickly go through um a list of reductions that I had sent to my board colleagues several weeks ago I'm open to changing this but I heard some overlap already I'll quickly say um for example you know there's 1.4 million to bring back ground maintenance to RPS I know that that was kind of a a random number but I think that's something we could cut 202 additional cfas for $1.3 million um addition adding infertility treatments at 560k adding one more RPS 200 school at 500K uh actually I like the RPS 200 idea and
077I'm a strong supporter of extending learning time but given that we have more results than we're waiting on that's why I suggested that the two recruiters and one transfer specialist 330k reductions of ssas due to grant funding loss 300,000 the enhanced online marketing for recruitment at 112,000 specialist for media special events at 110,000 do Specialists for Grievances and inv ation at 220,000 the expanded multilingual division Communications at 120,000 and the office associate for home schooling enrollment 70,000 those are just some of my suggestions and thank you for the time of thank you um M um thank you madam chair you know one um significant part of the talent budget is all the Inc and pay which I know would be lovely one question I had was we can pay and I I appreciate the data
078that you provided on that it it does keep people here but I know it also just keeps people here is support and part of me wonders is there just more we could do in a much cheaper way to just support our new teachers and potentially looking at that whether it's um staff in a non evaluatory manner going in and operating coaching or things like that I know our principles are so busy and they just can't give that level of care to our new teachers and so then sometimes new teachers be on an island and they leave um then we're kind of stuck in this so that was just one other thought I had is you know if we're cutting the incentive pay could we still think of ways to support at least our our new
079teachers coming in miss Mr Mr K thank you mam chair uh Mr rard I I agree with you I think um money is of course important and meaningful but uh support and guidance and um good leadership are the things that keep people over the long term um but one thing I disagree on is I don't think you can do that cheap yeah and I actually think to do that well requires a real investment in the right kinds of staff to be able to to do that and I'm not suggesting you were saying it's cheap I just don't know that um I I don't know that there would be a dramatic cost savings because much of the funds that maybe would not be used for incentives then go into staff um I'm a little bit h
080just knowing our fiscal picture right now um raising our head count a lot uh that's just something that I'm trying to keep squarely in my mind um as as we think about the upcoming bu season thank you thank you madam chair I'm ready to move forward with as already stated by my colle to my left this this is a dream this is a dream this is that wish list at the end of the day our faculty and staff persons our communities our supporters our students um they know that everything that's in this list are items of which they've talked about or have asked so it's not that we're pushing it to the side if something awesome happens maybe we can go back and add some it but I'm really having a hard time right now
081spending money and don't know what it is and don't have it you know thinking that you have a dollar you don't have have 50 cents so I don't like I don't believe in cutting things to that to the bare minimum but right now that's where we are also not knowing on the federal side what's going to happen we don't know what's going to happen regarding meals for our students we don't know so what I'm asking is let's keep the main thing the main thing number one student performance number two the collective bargaining piece number three I'm 100% convinced I'm regarding the insurance piece to include theity piece and then that's that's basically it that's basically it when you include also our day-to-day operations but then once we get the money from the state and seeing
082what else is in place that we can move forward because we can go eventually we might have to cut every item like you stated um Mr superintendent it may just come down to Collective bargain and that's it we don't know and that's I don't I don't want to take a lot I don't want to be built up and build people up to think that oh we're going to be able to get this and that no we're not let's be real let's this is the time that we're in this is the time in the era which we're in we're going to be all right though we're going to be all right we just continue to keep the main thing the main thing that is St performance student outcomes that's our number one driving force which is
083the literacy piece the math the whole academic piece teachers faculty and staff persons and pleas to support that and then the overall operations unfortunately the more we put some things off it's it's just where we are at this point we can't we can't make it happen if we don't have it to depend upon Partnerships but some of those organizations may be struggling as well so I'm in I'm in favor of getting to the point of bringing closure at this point I think the superintendent in the cabinet have enough information to work on because this is one of more to come how many sessions do we have schedule moving forward next week that's it well I know we will get something in advance and hopefully by next week do you think God we'll have the budget
084from the c or we have something more to work with Mr raised as well thank thank you madam chair uh Mr Burke uh no we will not get a final number from the city until after the mayor proposes his budget and he won't do that until he gets our budget um so um again I'm I'm happy to go in in which other whichever direction folks would' like to go I just need guidance from a consensus sure I just want to ensure that Mr Jafari had the opportunity to share um again I think we Circle back to everyone with the exception of him and then I think we can make a decision from there yes thanks Madam chair um I think we got the temp I think that the suggestion that the superintendent take it take
085the budget it's already had a number of sub substantial suggestions as to where to look but I one I feel much more comfortable having the revised budget and then taking a look at that seeing that getting that in advance and being able to go through it um you know my daughter felt the St of what happening prly so I don't want to just jump to a conclusion this evening and say don't continue this job these are people you know and I'm sensitive to that and and so I don't want to make it appear that I don't get this I I understand but I have constituents I I in my district we're busting people or or parents are transpor get them there wherever they need to go outside of the district so I'm well aware of
086what we're facing and I'm looking at other places throughout the division and they rebuilding total school and so I have to go back to my district and I have to explain to them why is it like that why can why can we not get this kind of attenti and so when I come in I look at the budget and there's really nothing in there that reflects changing that situation in my district I have to explain that to my constituents that's highly difficult but but to my point here I think that what we need to do even though I think they say there one more budget session we us to take that as an opportunity and at least I know I'm going to take it as an opportunity now knowing what the Playbook looks like to
087go in there and and say well well this play we lost four on this or this Statue of Liberty play no we can't do that so that that will better prepare me coming in and of course all my colleagues they can obviously speak for themselves on this but I would feel much better with that um I come out of Safety and Security with in Rich Public Schools so I don't want to just speak off the top of my head about that I want to be able to look at these areas and and then have somebody from Safety and Security stand and say well why do we need 18 as to 12 what's the current level and I don't see that happening right now I'd have to just reach a decision where I'm just cutting cutting
088positions without regard for these the people and need and the schools and so I I'm for taking the superintendent suggestion and we get it early we look at it and again just do what we need to do and their job is going to be here to exercise a number of the things that we see here thank you m thank you and I appreciate passion um moving us forward there are a couple of things that we're going to need to definitively decide tonight one will be the amount um superintendent just suggested to us um that he make some revisions and bring that back to us at March 3rd meeting correct um so um he threw out the number 25 I don't want this to feel like the auction how do we feel about that we want
08925 do we want 30 um just and and and I would also like to know if you um if the administration can continue to um keep in mind what us as individual colleagues have shared and um as and to help that be kind of like you're guiding like and your efforts and where to cut um certain um components I I see in just one moment and so um the ask is the amount um and then Mr cameras if you could give us a realistic date that we can be so we can be well prepared going into March 3D's meeting and really if we had to utilize email to just that some questions or something along those lines ahead of time and so if there's a realistic thing that you can commit to providing those updates
090for us leading up to the meeting um and then I think that we will be in a better position moving forward so um we had Dr Harris Mohammed Miss uh [Music] Rizzy thank you madam chair I would like to propose 23 million um if you were asking that what okay and then the second thing can we I'm still have some unreadiness with the fund balancing and not that you didn't do a phenomenal job in explaining that but if we can just make sure that we're following code 22.1 D100 that um speaks to the unexpended school and educational funds of the reserve funding we can just make sure that all of those bullets we are meeting um because I just have a different understanding and I just want to publicly say in no way am I
091trying to do your job I'm just not clear that what you explain on the fund balance is clear with me from what I understand um how we can use those funds so those are the two things that I wanted to share thank you m r thank you mam chair um colleagues correct if I'm wrong but this either I'm having deju or we have done this before yeah several times and so yes I mean this is a familiar process Mr cers will you know get a number from us and we'll present us with a revised version and we'll talk about it next time all right is there an amount are we 25 amable to everyone is there concerned with that more [Music] Mr person thank you madam chair I'm not done slinging arrows um I'm going
092to pick up where my colleague Mr per left off but a little bit angrier um is this how public education dies um so I I'm not comfortable backing off the budget at all I will but I'm not comfortable I I did not campaign and go out and talk to constituents and say you know what I want to give up on education I didn't say that I'm a realists and I think everybody here is trying to be a realist but the reality is is that those above us with P streams are not doing their GS and we can play good cop bad cop I'll be a bad cop when we freeze tax revenue on real estate that's great when you're on the city council but the LCI doesn't care that we've prosen that they look at
093they look at the amount that we have in real estate they aggregate amount and they adjust our LCI we lose money and then I hear the same thing that my colleague Mr edet says not from my constituents I get a waving in the hand that says close schools go close them that's that's the solution I hear that from The General assembly the city council I don't hear from my decisions when I look at this budget and we have to back off I'm looking at roofs being replaced seven roofs seven or eight HS that need to be replaced they were basically saying can't do it money is that what the city council the general assembly are telling us don't replace roofs I have two constituents that live in my house that went to out I wore
094sweatshirts in one class because it was freezing I had to wear a t-shirt in another class because it was too hot same day so I'll stop here but I'm a realist I will join the board but I'm not comfortable backing up any of this I I want everybody to know what it takes to run school system thank you did you want to we at 73 so have okay to my colleages I think that when uh the superintendent goes and takes a look at it I think he will prioritize um things like rof he'll put it in priority what what has to happen but again I can't see how we're going to be realistic if we're going to go with the existing budget like it is and I get it you know you don't want to
095send a message that you want to stop short of aspiring to reach very high and that you don't support education you know that's their job our job is here to make sure the Education Works in the public school system but we also have a job to be realistic to our constituents and to not um leave them down the yell Road making them think that we can aspire to do this and then run and find the money this is not you say we're here to find money in these books we have to find a way to do this and you know um he knows I respect him I respect all my colleagues but this is real and we're dealing with tough times people who got out of bed the other day had jobs they had jobs
096they don't have jobs anymore that's real that's real and we really can't control what city council do we have to operate within our means and that's why we're here thanks M of course thank you that here you know to to both your points um you know we've said multiple times over and over again our communities have to go out there and raise held about um getting you know or asking the state federal government to fund education fully fund education um it's obviously a call they didn't hear this time around maybe we need more voices um echoing the call but you know certainly this is an issue with just the nation not fully funding public education and my fear is that with the current situation public education is becoming more and more or less and less
097a priority to um our current leaders and I think that's a real shame and it stands to um harm what I think um children around us are among us so I just wanted to just add that thank you and I you know really appreciate all of our our colleagues just sharing um this is this is difficult um and regardless of how we we feel we do have to move forward um with some type of directive so that they can come together and and and make a decision what I would ask though is you know to Mr peral's uh point is you know don't roll the wish list away um it's it's going to be imperative that we keep that top of mind and and continue to find ways that we can Advocate to get those
098things accomplished um but at the end of the day you know it's it's um balancing the checkbook 101 right you know if you have $1,000 and you have to pay the mortgage on the 5th and this comes out on the 17th and you find ways to make it work and so without um but my my my ask is that we don't compromise the Integrity of what we're trying to accomplish and I know that the administration's commitment is there this is not easy for any of us um and I appreciate the passion of my colleagues in sharing your thoughts um and with that I believe the consensus was if you could come back with a um budget for 30 million is that I don't agree but put to a vote if you like and and just
099you know whatever the will of the board is this what we'll do Mard um I agree Dr haris Mohammad I'm worried that we're just going to be stuck in this role I don't know if it's I also want to be aspirational and 30 million sounds great but I also wonder where is the tears of things even um to me 20 I was thinking 22 um so when you said 2030 I were but um even 25 makes me more comfortable um because I just don't see how we're going to get that or that um so that's just Mr H thank you madam chair uh I don't think being realistic In This Moment is giving up on schools I want to publicly say that uh because we only have a certain amount of money to spend um
100and I agree that the keeping the wish list is a really important um important uh step uh because those are things that are very important to our communities U that that need to be completed I would also um align with Dr Harris ked's suggestion uh of somewhere between 20 and 25 uh to be more realistic again so we're not um we're not spinning this wheel um so uh maybe um maybe I might be able to make a motion that's in order sure I make a motion that we uh request the superintendent to adjust his budget additions to 23 million second before we vote is there any discussion any thoughts I have some Mr Baro Madam chair just in relation to the motion just made with the understanding that it would incorporate the priorities expressed today
101including covering the healthare cost increase for our employees um Miss rzy and it is because of what Mr F just identified that I'd be more comfortable moving between 25 and 30 would you like to share your thoughts toas thank you m chair I would Echo Mr riz's comments um to make up the cost of the healthcare sharing is in essence reducing our Revenue by $4 million uh so I would be more comfortable somewhere in the 25 to30 million range to try to put our better I'd also like to to add uh I feel more comfortable with the 20 to 20 excuse me the 25 to 30 million range um and I'm also a proponent of um you know it's it's always a good practice to ask for more so if the targeted amount is what
102I'm hearing Mr Cameron continue to say is 25 then perhaps asking for 30 will get us to the 25 I know that's so are we in favor of amending the motion if that is the consensus of the board I'll amend thetion to to auor if that is the will of the second it has been moved by by Mr Wesley hedpack and seconded by Miss Cheryl Burke um to amend the motion to have superintendent cameras re adjust the budget to reflect $30 million m Mr rard yes Mr yes Mr HED yes M Ry yes Dr Harris Mohammed no M work yes Mr jaar no motion passes M yes me thank you okay Mr camos thank you madam chair I just wanted to thank the bo for the clarity of your guidance also for the passion and
103conviction um this were easy it would have been done already and it's not and um we will continue to fight for every last pain for our kids and um U there's more to this story still to be written thank you with that we will move on to the motion for session chair I move that the school board of the city of Richmond convene in the Clos session to discuss the performance and possible discipline of a central office employee and to discuss the performance evaluation of a central office employee as authorized by Virginia code 2.2 d377 A1 can I a second it has been moved by Mr H secondment by Miss rzy Madam Mr yes Mr yes Mr F yes mred yes yes Dr mam yes M yes M yes [Music] M [Music] yes we are
104for a session thank you