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March 17, 2025 - Special Board Meeting (Audio Fixed)

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YouTube / Groveport Madison Schools
Date
2025-03-18
Location
Franklin County, OH
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5,231 words · about 30 min
Collected
2026-06-18

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001e e e three respect one another as elected representatives of the community and be open-minded and recognize one another's strength and the value of diverse perspectives and mutual commitment to the mission and vision of the district four allow members to complete their thoughts and statements before others comment allow members to be heard and listen to all perspectives with an open mind five stay focused on the askk at hand and respectfully redirect each other when needed six maintain confidentiality and communicate purport policies ensure trust and transparency in all dealings and seven after the vote is cast leave meetings United as one voice no matter if the outcome all right thank you madam vice president on to the adoption of the meeting agenda second have M gray as first and Mr as second I think I noticed

002there were speaker slips on the table um but I don't think we have speakers but I don't see a place on the agenda could we add public speaking just to recognize that we had that uh option available at this meeting we uh cannot change um this is a special meeting um and we did not have public participation on there so we can remove the speaker slip on to roll call please Mrs Walsh hi Mrs Gray hi Mr B hi Mr hi and Mr kerser no all right on to board items discussing the Grow Port Madison High School Athletic Field naming rights um I have a few uh comments I'd like to State Mr 10-year High School stadium naming rights under the agreement enacted between the parties in 2017 were expressly conditional the agreement at section

00311 provides for the district to terminate such rights immediately upon notice that Mr Bell has engaged in misconduct involving moral turpitude another basis for termination is Bell's failure to make regular payments as scheduled the Franklin County Common Police courts the Civil decision adjudicating Mr Bell as personally liable for $25 million in Damages for unlawful ual contact involving a minor is grave immoral conduct warranting immediate termination the judicial verdict prompted the district superintendent to order the removal of Bell's name from all Groveport Madison High School stadium signage in the High School Athletic Field forth with Mr Bell's failure to continue payments as called for in the agreement is further evidence of his material breach this District took the name removal actions only after being apprised of a final uh judicial verdict upon termination the naming agreement

004with Mr Bell allowed ows the district to keep payments received Mr Bell's appeal rights within the legal system do not give him a right to appeal the district's removal decision and for the present time the stadium will revert to its original designation thank uh thank you how was that prepared how was what prepared this statement from the board how was it prepared that was my statement okay thank you do you have a copy of your statement I'm it's kind of difficult it's so long I can uh email to you so for my part the contract also stipulates um remedies and notification and it is a board contract so based on our actions we we did request a meeting uh as soon as we saw this uh for Tuesday and then we got to view on

005Facebook that it was already taken care of so uh my view is that if I was offended by Mr Bell's action as we probably all were I could just go onto the field and spray paint it all green and cover it over and remove all the signage or maybe a b maybe a band parent or athletic director could anybody can just just do what they want this was a board contract and required board action there is no standing authorization that would allow an individual to just go on and and say oh the contract breach I determined it on my own and or maybe there was some communication from my perspective the decision the contract is a board contract the decision should have been a board decision and if a board decision was made I don't

006know how I was not made aware of it additionally um we've got four years where maybe there's one piece of evidence where we tried to collect money and never called him on breach and I would say that is the result of a lack of a financial committee I think if you had a good Financial committee that they would have been communicating with the band boosters and the athletic boosters and looking at the different finances of our district and this would have been discovered I discovered it uh long before I was on the board and I'm the reason I believe when when talking to G Lee and Jeff at the time that that letter ever went out asking for the $150,000 I came in and asked where the money was at the time that the levy

007failed they called me into a meeting I may be wrong but I knew back then then they told me back then they were collecting the money so it's something we should have been visible of whether or not you agree I don't know what happened I can tell you that back when the levy failed and G Le called me in to meet I was asking about this issue so thank you I'd just like to say that um our Treasurer just gave us copies of letters that were sent out certified mail uh to his Representatives trying to collect the money in addition to that um I know that when I first two of them were sent out certifi not all of them and the third one was not sent out but our contract does say that um

008we have to send a 30-day notice so I'm curious how this I'm not saying I disagree with what happened mind you I'm saying the way that it happened and I'm are you gonna be sending a copy of your was that a motion or was that a resolution or something stuff I don't know what you read no not a motion or that was my statement yeah okay yeah sorry I just didn't see the first part of it it's kind of Scrolls quickly yeah thank you yeah but so I guess I would like to have more information on how the decision was made and did we send out our 30-day remedy as our contracts as we have to and I'll just add from my vantage point um trying to follow processes trying to make sure we don't

009missst step I don't I don't anticipate a lawsuit from Mr Bell I don't think he's got the means or the or the motive uh at this point I think he's got bigger fish to fry but at the same time is trying to put a process in place uh an executive session um to make sure that before we did this stuff that we reviewed with Bricker Eckler who authored the contract that we had given our correct remedy um you can say immediate but there's also contract language in there that calls for us to uh provide the 30 days obviously 30-day notice should have gone out probably years ago but uh I C I tried to create a process that would seem to be in keeping with board policy board norms and just get to view on

010Facebook never mind it's all taken care of so that seems a little Wag the tail to me the tail wagon the dog to me so it says on under Section 11 does everyone have a copy the uh contract so I I do want ask we're not so here's the thing none of us are let me finish what I started did um anybody talk to our attorney before remov of the sign Seth superintendent grou yes I did anybody else okay I did as well and did he have a um what I'm sorry did you say you did two sets yes yes okay so did he have a um comment on um this Clause number 11 yes so that so essentially section 11 where it says that uh the board shall be entitled to terminate this agreement

011immediately on notice on Bell in the event that Bell is convicted of a felony or commits any offense or uh crime involving moral turpitude or is being or indefinitely suspended from the NFL awesome perfect thank you so was he convicted you that perfectly makes my point the board is two people you don't need us right the board is you and the superintendent you don't need us no that's not what I'm saying at all that's what happened contact you can contact the attorney one board member and you can get an opinion and then you can act you might as well build a building without talking to us you might as well name a building across the street and not talk to the board there are standing authorizations that are formed through board policy this isn't one

012of them and by the way we would have been through the board policy things would make sense but no we won't do a policy committee meeting so here we are there is no standing authorization for you or for the superintendent to contact our attorney and make a decision like this it's a Bo board decision it's a board contract and it was done after I had asked if we could have a special meeting on this issue to discuss it as a board why is that so I would say I don't know exactly um why you think that just because you called a special meeting that uh individuals weren't asking questions because we all saw the news article um you guys apparently were having conversation we all were trying trying to find out what was going on

013so just because your email came out when it did did not mean that others were not asking some of the same questions I just want to say that I think that's great that we all have a concern and I think that it's great that we um all are here to discuss that but just because that email came out requesting a special meeting does not mean that conversations were had to then be addressed to the entire board so I just wanted to just make sure I say that because I think we are all here do the right thing I don't think anyone's here to do anything um I would hope not but you know that's neither nor there I don't think anybody I'm sorry I'm having a hard time following what okay I can start over

014for a lot okay would you maybe would you like for me to start over Kathy for you yeah you could start over or condense it that would be great okay so I stated that with and your statement was about uh this came out after your email and I stated just as much which email you said you just stated that you called for a special meeting or requested a special meeting so it either had to come via email or phone call or whatever method you chose I don't know I I assume so email or phone call whatever that looks like so with that I'm saying that just because you sent that does not mean that others were not asking some of the same questions and working on something I didn't say nobody else was asking I'm

015just saying you said it important to have the board before decision was made without the board you guys are gonna do whatever it doesn't matter I'm sorry Speak one time I'm sorry I thought you were done I apologize so what I just heard was we were all talking about it we were all thinking of the same thing um what I don't understand and what I don't see is a transparency uh where the um public can see or where I can see how the decision was made so the decision was made I wasn't part of it I'm a board um we do our business not through individual Communications to uh anyone or to the superintendent we do our business as a group so that is what I don't see I don't see us coming together I

016don't see I see one person talking to an attorney I don't see all of us talking to an attorney and making a board decision on a board contract if I can first state um I thought we were coming here to talk about the naming rights of of the um for the athletic field that name your rights but uh I did talk to our attorney my first question was does this take board action to undo this the answer was no the this was a breach it could be enacted on as we know in board policy and statute it spells out the roles and responsibilities of the board the roles and responsibilities of superintendent when I found out about this and I had the authority to do this I took action to have those names removed I'm

017in charge of all the day-to-day intera the day-to-day action of the school district um we we make hundreds of decisions every day that doesn't come to the board those decisions were made prior to I don't know when the request was sent from Mrs Walsh for special meeting but those those decisions that were made prior to me even knowing there was a request for a special meeting to the best of my recollection at this point it was we have a major situation where there is very serious content in the name of the person on our field uh it was did not require board action based on respons from our legal councel so I took administrative action to do that may I ask that I have a question I'm sorry go ahead I didn't me interupt it

018was my understanding too that the superintendent takes care of the day-to-day operations and I included that in the day-to-day operations right and I think that's also and to carry out legal obligations which is this was a legal obligation but what we can do um I know that he has that right under 3319 I think the high revice code so with that we can at least here as the board affirm what has happened because that was what was in the best interest of the district if we agree with that so as a board coming here today he did his due diligence as speaking with the attorney to do the um to to do the removal but at this point at the board we can affirm that decision if that would then um be more um in

019line with what you're what you're stating Mr ker okay and I appreciate everything that's been said what I will say is a couple things one is I got a call from our board attorney that said that I stated and this will come up a little later but I I need to give this example that I stated the name grade level and school of a student that we were going to be investigating um and that was put in writing so there's a certain board attorney that I wouldn't give two cents for um but secondly all this communication if there's communication between the treasurer and a board attorney why don't I know um Mr U Groove sent out an update on was it Friday I believe the same day to the entire board right so the same

020day as the action took place yes it was the same day correct that's that's not my question yeah there's deliberation going on that this is not the board's responsibility this is outside the board scope with an attorney I think uh that would be good because I I would certainly want to lay weigh in possibly or maybe ask for a second opinion because um we get some really really great opinions from some of our attorneys and and standing authorizations or standing authorizations and school naming is one that is specifically to the board there's many op there's many many items that don't fall under this and again you know we may have a different difference of opinion but it would be great if we could know um when these conversations are happening and that we wouldn't feel

021like um great I'm seeing on we call for a meeting and here it is on Facebook so I that's all I have I'm sorry no more what I would like to say another thing un unless somebody was waiting so um we have a policy FF naming facilities that's a Board responsibility we have a contract 11 there was no he was not convicted of a crime so I just really want to make sure we dot our eyes and cross our tees and I think that's a decision the board should make everyday business this is not everyday business this is out of the norm business with a contract that is over the amount of everyday business being $750,000 I think um it's just if uh I can sign into a meeting here leave so you guys can

022do what you're going to do or we can act like a board of a whole and it's we're not doing that and if the president talks to the attorney that should be a phone call if there's um or an email saying hey I talked to the attorney this is what was said or we need to have a meaning to discuss what was said it should be discussed as the board as a whole I would just like to say that um we have contracts that are much more than $750,000 that our superintendent implements and follows through on those contracts the contract did state that for any egregious behavior that it could be removed um so therefore I felt like he was following according to the contract um also since we are supposed to be talking about

023the renaming of the facilities I would like to talk about that and like for it to continue to be called Cruiser stadium and no longer have a name of a field just Cruiser Stadium I agree I like that Miss gray as well and I definitely concur with your comments as far as the superintendent um doing his due diligence that day and as you noted notated in the contract as well thank you I so we have a motion is that a motion Libby no I just said I would like to have a discussion and that was my suggestion right I agree I I agree as soon as I as as soon as I saw this I said Cruiser stadium has always been what I've known it as and I think that would be appropriate yep I

024agree as well so I'll make a motion to rename Stadium I'll keep the name as Cruiser Stadium but have no name on it so I mean second Mrs Gray as first Mrs d burer as second uh could I clarify this is not um precluding us from additional naming rights in the future is that true if our policy allows us at any time to she said our policy allows an ending time for us to do that so right now it's just for the purposes of the current removal um it wasn't an indefinite Motion in her language correct just want to be sure bring it up to what is it it says it was an infinite Motion in her language I I stated because Mr kersner was asking about yeah um was it a permanent like we

025couldn't ask for it again and I said she did not her language did not include indefinitely um leaving the name off the field it was just for this time being to continue with crer State stadium and remove the name of the field that's all so the motion will be to temporarily name the stadium Cruiser Stadium the cruiser the Stadium's already named Cruiser Stadium if I'm not mistaken it was just the field that had a special name and so we're saying we're the motion was to ensure we just don't have a name for the field anymore basically yeah and to clarify Cruiser stadium was in our in our agreement with was still in the name in our agreement so there just won't be a name on the exactly thank you and the attorney said that we

026do not have to follow that um number 11 of his contract we're good with that our attorney said we have done that we have sent we have followed that to the te and there's no chance of us being held accountable by Mr Bell as being a us being in breach of contract which is item number 10 I'm not an attorney but I would recommend you emailing our attorney just so that you can verify on your own well I don't want to take a vote before we contract and no for 100% sure that we're following this contract as it is written okay um so we can we move yeah a roll call please Mr kersner roll call for which Cruiser St M Mr kersner I Mr d i Mr B I Mr great I and M

027no all right Mission passes may I uh make one comment um the contract was this is just a thought contract was written by Brooker neckar um and uh it might be wise uh if that attorney and I don't know if he still is there that drafted it U might be a good person to follow up with I believe he passed away of can so uh regardless um I do think that we should um send out the notice of breach uh with 30 days to cure and then um mention the action that's taken and um uh subject to cure I also the reason that I um wanted to meeting is one of the thoughts that I had or a couple thoughts I had was one was um obviously um Levon has uh uh heard His Image

028and our image and it's very sad because he's an alumni and was a very uh kind person as I understand um but you know I did want to give him the opportunity to financially remedy and explain our actions um thoroughly to him and expectations and U I think uh by by doing what we did we may I I don't know that we'd ever collect a penny from them but we wouldn't know uh because we haven't done much uh for three years so I think uh there was probably some opportunities to approach this differently that may have provided U some possible Longshot Financial benefits for the district as well as outlining um why the name wouldn't be there Etc so thank you so just point of clarification I'll I will follow whatever the board direction is

029it's my job to do that but are you saying that if they would cure the financial part of this that you'd be interested in putting his name back up no that's not what I said at all what I was saying is um if I if I were to if if we we were to approach this together I would I hope for a gracious communication to him expressing gratitude sorrow and here's where we are and offering him the opportunity to fulfill his financial position but at the same time explaining our position and why the damage has been made to the reputation and why we can't you know allow him to run you know children's youth Etc um events at our district that's what I was referring to so um just a couple things as well so

030thank you for your comments I also want to remind the um since this is recorded and think about the time frame when this was happening this is all also during around point of order can you start over because it's saying Buffalo and okay I'm sorry sorry I'll slow down a little slower I said that I wanted to also remind everyone during this time frame um when you look at the letters and things that this is also during covid this is also when we had our students at home we were one to one everybody's just trying to live and then also returning back to school then also busing so definitely not um an excuse but just want to also keep that in the Forefront of what was happening in addition to um there from what I'm

031understanding is that there were ways that you know given the opportunity to cure if you know I know that there was press that came out at some point where um maybe was not doing NFL but was going to box and maybe going into music and entertainment so still giving him the opportunity to cure the financial piece versus moving into the um removal process for that because we could still work that relationship or you know and then also family is still here if I'm not mistaken um and not to you know bring that out with that piece and try to embarrass the family so just kind of want to um put that on the record as well but I do believe that um for the moral portion of it I don't think there's any um curing

032of that per se yeah I agree thank you moving on to item two discuss a regulated individual um and I'd like to open up with a brief statement on this as well we are all here to serve Cruiser students their families and all School District residents last week this board and the superintendent authorized an external independent third parties comprehensive review of certain classroom related matters it's my understanding that the third party review will proceed expeditiously with an eye toward providing specific findings and recommendations for our review in April since this review is predecisional I ask that each of us refrain from any further comments to PR preserve the Integrity of the third parties's work there will be ample opportunity for all members to provide input once the independent third party review is complete the interaction

033of state federal student privacy laws with our board policies can be complicated and confusing I do believe each of us wants to do what is right I'm mindful that there has been a lot of conversation Among Us in emails back and forth lately seeking Clarity to help us navigate these complex complex issues our legal council is preparing a comprehensive legal update on this topic the legal update will give us an in-depth review of the applicable student privacy laws and regulations and it will provide us with specific examples of situations where a school official has a right to review Student Records with personally identifiable student information consistent with law and board policy at this time I'd like to offer a gentle reminder to everyone that any comments this evening stick to General observations avoiding references to

034any specific student situation in observance with state federal student privacy laws thank you great thank you so um if I had committed an offense and um I needed investigate it or you felt that I needed investigate it I am sure that you would say Mr kersner can you please go find us an investigator so in this instance um we have people here on the board and people um that are selecting the investigator that are subject to the investigation the motion was made to find an independent investigator and I do not believe that investigator should have been selected um as it was um I think that's inappropriate I think the board should have picked a law firm that is not um that that is inde dependent from the individuals that will be uh being investigated and

035they should pick an investigator and I also believe that the investigator should have uh a directive or a a letter of Engagement that is forged by the board based on um our knowledge and our concerns in this matter uh and I I'm I'm just surprised and disappointed in the way that this has proceeded and as far as legal goes again I have I have an email that came from I don't know where that says that I've already Nam the individual what grade they're in and their age and their's fur of violation because of some obscure reference to the person's age once upon a time or currently with no reference to a date or anything else so your opportunity and I've looked very carefully at FAL laws and your opportunity to identify a student from the

036language that was put in the meeting notice is about the same as winning the lottery and um by the way when two board members sign a meeting notice that is a legal notice if we want a board policy that says when a legal notice is formed we would like it reviewed uh by our legal team that would be great however to take a legally formed U board notification and just discard it isn't within anyone's right so um I don't think this process is is going well I don't think it was born as it should be I think that we should pick a firm that is independent and I think we have a firm that is not independent that is very opinionated and can sometimes be weaponized and I think we should pick one like Bricker

037or somebody that we haven't used in a while and let them pick uh an independent investigator and not pick it or not have an individual sitting up here pick evidence and and the individual you're referring to clearly is me and so my question is am I under investigation for something without getting into the specifics the complaint the complaint was that I called X I called X I called X I didn't get a return call I didn't get followups I requested public information I didn't get followups no you didn't get the answers you wanted I'm not talking about me okay we're not investigating for me I'm talking about the the the people involved here said their first their first their first contacts were were you the assistant superintendent the principal the police SE Etc so we

038we do have people that are here that would be subject to this review so yeah be okay I mean if if again at the direction of the board if the board wants to make daytoday decisions about things and and go against what the board policy says about the role of the board and the role of the superintendent I I'll follow the lead of the board for doing this I tried to expeditiously get this moving it was approved by the board no one stated that night that it was the board doing any of those selection I went to an investigator who we and many other Central High districts have worked with and asked for availability but ultimately you know again I was I I feel like this evening is more about being critical of the what

039and how decisions have been made not about the decisions that were allegedly put on the agenda this this feels like a a a way to try to attack me publicly and be critical of the decisions that all I'm trying to do is follow the direction of the board can I I was going to state that this isn't a law firm I believe um during the investigation um I don't believe it is but I will confirm if not I believe it is somebody else I don't think it's a law firm though but I'll have to ask but I think that information yes I do not believe it's a law firm I I know our Law Firm was not I don't believe it was asked yeah and I I wasn't suggesting you know Law Firm had to

040do it I was suggesting because for instance you know Adam had thrown out there that he could recommend someone or I was suggesting that we select a law firm to find the independent investigator because you're saying the select I I wouldn't know I wouldn't know and you wouldn't know if the investigator is a friend of mine or a friend of anybody else's and I'm not suggesting they are I'm just saying I want that Independence I don't want to worry about a good Boy network or anything else and I'm not throwing accusations I'm simply saying we voted indeep for something independent and I just want to know that it is that it's not that's it that that is that is independent there won't be any bias Etc so I guess in my mind it we're hiring

041a professional and what you're doing is accusing a professional of being unprofessional and so I I think that's very dis in regards to um superintendent group's you know statement he following the I do appreciate you reaching out and following the direction of the board and he just make a great point if the if the request was to um we would do the election then I think I I I apologize if that was what we wanted that wasn't clear in that motion my thought was that we were going to pass it along so that we can get an independent investigation and then go from there so I do thank you for what you did do um Mr G um very very quickly and at least trying to find someone based off our recommendation just this just

042less than a week ago actually and and please let me be clear if that's the desire of the board that's fine I'm just trying I'm just trying to get things completed I'm fine with what you did so um Seth I had a question from your statement you said review is predecisional could you explain what you mean by that sorry can you EXP exp what you want me to explain regarding that yeah that's right yes if you could explain what you mean by pred decisional you mean we voted on it so I'm not sure what what your we voted yeah so we voted on an external investigation that's basically what that said okay that's what I thought I just wanted to be sure getting clarification there so um and Jamie yes you said Jamie you know

043you're in charge of the day-to-day operations absolutely um but I think John's thing is an independent and that's what it said and you can go back and look at the recording in the words there independent investigation um so I mean I kind of see both sides of the coin it's between a rock and a hard place you know I see where Jamie like oh you're attacking you we're not attacking you we're looking at the day-to-day operations as it as it um pertains to this particular situation so maybe just going to Brick or neckar or they're one of our approved legal firms and saying hey find a person they know people they do it all the time that's what they do all the time just let them hire somebody and then it's an independent because we're

044not picking them and the board and it also in the motion said that the board would do the investigation so you know I don't know well I'll just I'll break it down I'll break it down and and and make so you can all understand it better I got I got call I got a call from our attorney okay and um you can be snarky all you want Libby I got a call from our attorney and he said that I thought that the the student had been personally assaulted physically assaulted and then that I had done this and I had done this and I had done this including putting out the person's personal information all this so I don't know where that opinion comes from or where that idea comes from but obviously it's going to

045make me skeptical of the process and that's that's where I am I would move that we contact Bricker and Eckler I have no ties with them and we ask them to provide an independent investigation and then I would ask that um Seth or or um our vice president Latoya uh reach out and we create or at least ask the board members of what the scope should be I mean the complaint has been been very specific things brought forward that conflict with what we were told and I'm not allowed to have visibility but um and I don't want to get very specific but oh they're doing fine no they're great you know we're told they're doing well I'm told their grades are down here uh here's an example a parent here's the logic that I have

046to ask you to understand so a parent that's working three jobs scraping trying to make ends meet were told they were offered counseling they say are you kidding me do you think I would have spent $1600 out of my pocket to get personal counseling for my student if counseling had been offered so I see I see grave discrepancies and what was reported to us and what I'm hearing and I'm not taking a position on either one but these are items and there're many more that I would want to see investigated including you know did did somebody say did somebody you know refuse to uh respond to emails was this was the person interviewed without their parent and without their parents knowledge Mr chrisher I think that we might be crossing a line here if um

047you do you have a motion that you're making yes I'm I moving that we contact Bricker and Eckler and that we ask them to uh provide an independent investigator a second I have Mr K as first and Mrs Walsh as second and as what I would like to ask Mr grou have um you are you have already reached out to a firm for them to hire somebody is that correct yes I I reached out last week I put that in the board update and met with the individual today but it's a proposed contract um and again if the if the board wants to go a different direction that's not a problem I mean honestly um the investigator wanted to know how tonight was going to go before there was even agreement to do the investigation

048so um well do you have a copy of that contract do you have a copy of I I do have a copy of the contract it's an right now tonight I'm sorry can we talk one one at a time please I said that's what we're that's part what we're discussing right now tonight discussion of this and that's what the original notice was about hiring the investigator so I think we should have that during this discussion well for me if we as the board we've already decided on um independent I would like to see what would come first um before going to another firm um to see what we could have because then there's the finders fee for that as well but there's no I'm open to whatever but I think I would like to see

049first what we already have but since this is discussion for this motion correct my following okay so I'm I would personally just like to see where we at first since those um if we were the board was going to be the deciding factor U that wasn't clear I thought the clarity was to move quickly I do trust that um if we hire someone independently that their professionalism is this grce so uh put with be professional and they would want to adhere to whatever standards as an investigator to provide Professional Services because that's also their name and their reputation as well so that's just my comment for that if if I could comment um even though I trust this person and respect this person a great deal she does investigations all over Central with a lot

050of other districts I would at this point tend to ask the board to go ahead and move to Bricker for somebody else to do this because I feel like this is going to be tainted and then if there's accusation because I selected the person it why waste the time if that's going to be discredited later so let's just break clean and go to somebody totally outside I was again trying to save us money and move forward quickly but but that's fine and and just to clarify um I'm not suggesting the board select them I'm suggesting that we allow the law firm to select them that's independent I'm I'm fine with paying a law firm to select a consultant to come in and do the investigation right any other discussion no thank you for your time

051appreciate it I would say one thing and that is clearly um we can we can communicate amongst our each other about um things that are administrative so things want on the agenda things we want to talk about um and we need to obviously clearly do a better job of that um so that when we come here uh we have an idea of what to expect um so I think ining our our agendas Etc we should certainly do a better job of intercommunicating I I would say um Seth or LaToy if you two are doing this to look at our board policy BCG and engaging a legal C there specific steps I would want to make sure that those were followed any other discussion on roll call please Mrs W can you restate the Motions to

052contact R gr gr now to get an independent investigator I Mrs Gray no Mr Bard no Mr D no and Mr I may ask the name of the investigator thank you all right on to item F motion to adjourn okay Mrs dber as first and Mrs Walsh as second Mrs Walsh y hi yes Mrs Gray hi Mr B hi hi and Mr hi 746 we

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