001Okay. Um, good morning everybody. Thanks for being here bright and early at 7 a.m. Um, whose idea was this anyway? Just beats. Um, call to order please. Mr. Drew, >> Miss Haywood, Miss Minky, Miss Phillips >> here, >> Miss Roll Miller, M >> here. I said call to order. Roll call, but whatever you want to call it this morning. >> My wife says listen to what I mean, not what I say. >> Okay. There we go. That works for me, too. I like her already. All right, we will stand for the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Since we have no guests present today, I'm going
002to skip the safety briefing and go right down to 2.1. Do I have a motion to adopt the agenda? >> Susan, >> oh Laura, sorry. [clears throat] >> Oh, this is gonna be great. Out of my peripheral vision, I'm gonna see two blues and go saying whatever. All right. Um, roll call. Yes. >> Yes. >> Miller. >> Yes. >> Give you a second to get that. >> I do it both on paper and someday everything in I'm up. >> You are, sir. It's all yours. >> Okay. So, we're going to talk about income tax today as forewarned. >> I have tried to make this um brief but still cover some of the top the topics that we're brainstorming finance and other feedback we've got. So obviously this is this is um heading into the weeds
003um but there obviously there's more nuance and stuff but more discussion that uh and just so I'm hoping to share kind of the basic facts of school income tax and some of you guys some of this you've already heard so it shouldn't be too surprising. Couple Just want to point out um you only have one type of income tax. You can't have two different ones going on. So traditional earned versus you know we have a traditional income tax [clears throat] income tax can only approve in quarter% increments and I'll show you in a s second department of taxation is a table just for reference but you can only put quarter amounts out. Um when you put a new income tax in it takes approximately 18 months to get full collection. I say that because you
004levy like in November we start collection that next year. So collection is almost immediate. Property tax where because of withholdings and stuff income tax takes forward a few months. We [clears throat] go for income tax um balance. It's normally it's 90 days for property tax 100 days for income tax because you have another step out of property taxation to certify the rate. And then of course the other thing is in school tax on residents only like our municipal tax tax is always work in the district income tax those who live. >> So even on that first slide there I'll try to test questions. Um >> I think it's interesting that it says full collection not just collection but full collection. So are we getting partial collection? >> Well what will happen is because there's two
005two types of um um two pieces of income tax withholding that detail check. So as soon as the withholding starts, we'll start getting [clears throat] that right. But then the nonwithholding that people don't pay until they do their taxes in April. >> So it would be a full April before we get all that. So that's why it takes so long. >> Okay. >> So get a traditional base we have today. wages, salaries, tips, self-employment earnings, and subretirement pension income. It may not be all, but is in there. Unemployment benefits, interest, dividends. So, essentially anything that on um it's kind of like I look at 1040 kind of income on an earned income base. It's just weighted salaries, net earnings from self-employment, and excludes unemployment, interest in dividends, capital gains, rental profit. So, you can see
006right away Right now we have a traditional base earned income narrows the types of income that get that get taxed. Another way to look at this is um this kind of see where um the difference and obviously you're narrowing down so it impacts less people. >> I thought the traditional that social security was not tax. >> It depends again if if your social security is taxed as part of your um Ohio tax depending on where you are on the qualification there it could be it could be taxed. So here in Parisburg are social security tax >> I don't know it depends on the individual on their qualifications I think and I don't know enough about social security say that I know it um if you take it earlier for example it could be taxed >>
007okay but traditional social security they're not >> probably this comes off the chart that Katie well and I've got a copy of it. I will catch it, but right now there 214 districts across the state have an income tax. I think it's higher than 86% but my first calculation was 86% of those districts are classified as rural. >> 60 of the 214 68 have an earned income tax and on average most of the new income taxes you put up are [clears throat] earned. So traditional income taxes are back in the early days of, you know, we're fairly early adopter income tax in this district. Of the 214, over 130 have continuing levies like ours. Um, and then some will have a continuing and then a term income tax and only one of those 214 there's
008only one district in that I would consider a per district. So, so you'll see some mostly And they don't consider like Finley has an income tax now. Um they're not tax demographically. [snorts] Um Pickerington has an income tax again. Um they they're not like they're like us in terms of some parts of it, but some are not. They're they're bigger and they have high density housing that we don't have and lower income that we don't have. So You mentioned kings. Is that something that they put on there? >> It's just that was recent. >> Yeah. >> So it's unusual. I guess the point is we're at unusual in um that we have traditional now today obviously think about that differently and then I don't but this was the part of taxation provides me [clears throat]
009this update. For example, our half% today is traditional. It generates actually generates a little more than this. That's equivalent to 7.5 mills. So that's equivalent essentially just slightly less than the level we just passed. Right? If you want to move this to a earned well 10.5 there's really no 10.5. You can't do six and a quarter because that you'd have to go to 3/4 of a% which generate about $800,000 more. Okay, so that's it's kind of how you read the charts depending on what you want to do. [snorts] Um, you kind of get an idea of where where we'd have to be. And for example, our other fixed sum levy is generating 13 million. So if we wanted to replace it, well, there's really not an option here. 34% um traditional or you're down to
010um you know have to go to 1% you have to go to 1% earn. So, so just kind of just kind of keep that in mind that there's you're, you know, you're not get exact. [snorts] >> Yeah. >> Right. And and just to put that in perspective, our PI levy is 1.17 mills. So, it's times together which might >> so again what we are today the half% and I would already shown this now just throwing it out there if we if you if for some reason we really want to replace it look we'll get rid of all property tax less income tax we need to generate about $48 million which is another 2.25% % traditional income tax. If we did it earned, we obviously need to go to 75. We already talked about that. We
011need an initial additional 3.25. So if you want to earn, you need 4% versus traditional, you need 2.75 and building earn generate more revenue. So just I don't think we talked about repling our Just recognize those are the kind of numbers which by the way is higher than their state income tax, our flat tax we now have state. Okay. So just try to look at this a couple different ways and every family is different obviously the infinite combinations of scenarios. So I just said look high income 75,000 appraised value 75,000. What's the difference? All right. So, half% income tax versus traditional tax versus um 7 half mills, which is our current a little less than our current um 5year levy. So, that le comes off talk about tax. When we start getting down to here,
012you know, again, the important thing is that ratio between income and home value. Where does it make more sense? And typically, if obviously if you are cash poor and property rich, your income tax ends up being the better deal. You know, so people like here home 200,000 home 500,000 which is not is not out of the question in this community right tax probably a little bit better but again it depends on your deduction on your income and all that. So you get an idea. Oh, that means I looked at it a different way. I don't know if this makes sense or not. I said, look at the equivalent. So this is the gross tax down here. I said, what's the equivalent for a half% traditional income tax? They're almost equivalent, right? Generating revenue. And so
013if I if I so $1,500 in tax, that's equivalent to um $300,000 in income or slightly more than $500,000 value. So you kind of get an idea. I don't know if that's helpful or not. Sometimes I look at it, sometimes So causes of a property tax obviously um property tax tend to be more stable and predictable >> um and broadly tied to property wealth obviously and we benefit property business contribute indirectly. So, one of the positives obviously property tax is business are they're paying it hopefully, you know, and they're being supported by their customers, right? And um there's there's no paycheck deduction. So, so it's less visible, right? you see that deduction on your paycheck every month if you if you work in in place it for you and um retire some con retirees contribute
014um don't have earn contribute and like in our community our relative our amount of homestead deduction is relatively low I'm not saying it makes our retirees wealthy but not qualify for homestead. The negatives obviously you guys all know this impact farms don't have that much farm retirees on fixed income. I think that's why we're talking about it, right? Because impact on retirees and some say renters don't pay. I think pass that law and again this is one I've heard property taxility house cash for house furniture you know that kind of thing and discourage property improvement um I'm posit school income tax funer I expressive burden across residents will earn income not just property owners. They reduce the pressure of large property tax increases. So you know they only increase you never see an increase in
015percentage. Obviously if your salary goes up increase tax you pay not a percentage. um growth of the economy. We've seen our our income tax growily since I've been here and obviously earn income versions which we don't have to protect retirement income. So on the negative side and this is just more of the tax burden than residents right so as I mentioned um to one point if you look at our total tax collection at $48 million so 6.5 million come from business business and commercial business and industry. So that you're going to take that six and a half million got rid of all property tax and put that on the residents. I know we're not we're talking about try to keep that in perspective. Higher paycheck withholding so people see it and of course revenue can
016fluctuate. It's less predictable and um potentially high earners of living in the district and that's been probably one of the biggest things where higher income tax because they want higher income and more complex tax filing. I see this all the time because I get these calls all the time from res. So that's it. That's all I think I hope I hit all things on information. So what questions do you have? Is there something you want to go back and look at? Just ask me that question. >> I I can tell you based on listening to past recordings, no one heard that. So someone [laughter] Say it again. >> Say it again. >> I'll say it. Um, this discussion is not about putting a income tax levy on the November ballot. It is justformational so that
017we have a better knowledge of how it works. >> Yes. >> We'll have to address you know we just passed the portion is five years. >> So if for example you want to replace that income tax we're going to have to start earlier than we would otherwise. So you have this conversation now you're going to start a year earlier than you woulding property tax property tax plus obviously having a strategy in place. It doesn't look like the anti- property tax group is going to be on the ballot in November, but it's still conversation that we need to have. And I think, you know, from my seat, it looks like the board is some, you know, say 100% yay or nay, but if this is somewhere down the road, we need to we need to do
018that. Or if you think this doesn't really make sense for us, the table and simplifies life. I mean this is not the time to answer that question but it's something we got to be thinking about you know all those other considerations you know does it make sense for Harrisburg you know as you pointed out does it make sense to try to convert our traditional tax to earned income tax and then in the future go for more traditional tax if we want to different ballot two ballot steps >> I think statewide data on slide five. I'd like if I have data on this to look at recent and not just I think November's election is certainly in a specific time and place that was not positive in struggle um this past primary but I I'd like
019to know more about the income tax leies didn't didn't pass and what type of communities they were in, how much they were asking. I'm very interested right now looking at the question still the capital out could lev I love the fact that income tax normal scenario increases that we wouldn't have to keep going back on the ballot to get normal inflationary increases. But I'm not sure how to do that right now with the larger numbers that we'll need for the operating and the question of I think we need to dig a little bit further into the traditional versus what's going to be taxed and how that's going to affect our district's residents that would be voting on this. What does that you know I don't know what kind of data we can find in terms
020of how you know what are the demographics of the district and how might this affect them? How many wage earners do we have? We talk a lot about who has kids in the district and who doesn't but I don't know who was or who's retired with a I think earned income or the homestead exemption is it 41,000 that's I mean that's where you qualify for the homestead exemption as a $41,000 income or less I just can't imagine there's a large number of residents at that point again you're saying that we're not there isn't a lot of reduction so we're really looking the impact of earned income, capital gains, other income that retirees might have and how is that what are our demographics for that to project this forward kind of digition? >> Well, this tells
021you a lot here knowing that at our current tax rate, the difference is, [snorts] you know, $3 million. demographics how we get to that department of taxation are using our numbers. So this is based on taxes from not anywhere else. We certainly have the data on current cycle. I know I can't remember off the top of my head as a percentage. A lot of a lot of the new ones didn't again in today's you know in today's news cycle that's our best although the property tax question isn't going away >> yeah I'm trying to think of what additional information seem to be a point where we make do we want to do income tax in the future? Yes or no? What type do we need to transfer? I mean, that's the question right now in
022my brain. And so we really have to get our heads around whether or not we want to pursue income tax in the future. I'm trying to think of the data that I need to kind of think through that problem and and then how do we bounce this off of actual community members and not just >> and just and just put in perspective just recognize let's say we transition to earn right tax million that same base at 5% is going to pay seven and a half that smaller base now is going to have to will end up doing almost $4 million more >> shifting shifting a significant amount to those paychecks. >> I do consider that's all I earned in terms of paycheck tax. >> I think it's kind of a a misnomer for people to
023say that Yes, it's more visible. It might be more in your face, but when you have a property tax, you're still taking out or should be taking out or putting into savings for your bannual monthly payment. >> So, there's still something that you're putting aside every however you do it. Um, so it's it's kind of this hand is out here in front of you while this hand for um for property tax is doing the same thing but just putting it off on the side. So it's it might be more visible and maybe I would think maybe some people would even like that. It's it doesn't hit them only twice a year. It's not this big huge expense that comes in on a graph that's barely readable on your statement. I don't know the numbers obviously,
024but um a lot of people escrow what keeps you from paying your PMI on your mortgage. And so it comes out monthly and you don't necessarily ever have to look at your tax bill to see what >> you know I mean you can but I don't think you necessarily need to >> I think you see it when you get your escro statement once a year and suddenly your jumping chunk that's that's when I see it the most is when I get my escro like how much more are they going to take out next year? So I think people see it and it isn't all suddenly you see this you know the jump you have to put and I'm thinking of a new levy you're going to see that jump >> you know how many people
025were surprised when they their taxes went down that levy fail they don't you're right your a lot of homes a lot. If you don't know that, look at it. In fact, where I live, my escro sounds like >> [clears throat and cough] >> Dr. >> Yeah. Right. >> I think >> and I think the homeowners exemption data or the homesteading is you can only get it by county. So you're only going to be able to get how many people in Wood County qu because it's a county based thing. >> I don't know that I don't know that they have the break. >> My conclusion is [clears throat] I just look at the percentage of that discount >> and see how relatively small it is. That's how I that's how I'm determining that we're not taking
026a lot because it's it's relatively our homestead relatively small bas our total tax base. >> Oh, so the county tells us as a school district >> how much >> Yeah. didn't get paid because of Homestead. >> Yeah. Well, and actually where it shows up is in um >> yeah, when I get my when I get my settlement sheet, it shows how much for each levy, how much each of the discounts are. >> Okay. >> And um and of course, obviously, the new levy, there's no discounts. >> I did want to mention one thing. Obviously, there's no crystal ball, but I've been sitting on the zoning steering committee, and that group is heavily focused on how can we bring more commercial industrial, you know, business into the the town to essentially also help ease the burden
027on the schools. So, just that's just something else to consider and we don't know, like I said, don't know what that outcome would be, but that has been a topic of discussion. >> Well, the other thing I don't have here recognize is really the most lucrative, even though it's not small amount, a little over $2 million is our public utilities personal property. That's taxed at full rate. There's no discount on that. So if you get rid of property, if you replace a property tax, we don't get anything from public utility at that point. Now we don't it's not a ton of percentage, but it's significant. And if you look at some of the major investments, it's in public utility infrastructure. So there's a tradeoff. Again, it's going to shift burden to the to the residents.
028So that to me, the biggest concern is income tax just the burden. We don't have, you know, our percentage of commercial industrial are not huge, but they're significant. They're big. >> Not so much the percentage. Right now it's really looking at zoning code and is there ways to basically um you know kind of revise zoning code to make it more enticing or what could what could be done to kind of solicit more businesses that want to come to build in our town. Um so that's really that that committee's focus is looking at zoning code and what could be revised um with the lens of you know partial like that's one of the aspects right with the lens of what could be done to entice businesses to come to Parisburg. But isn't that one of the
029big arguments in the advocacy group is how the state has split that that now we're paying the the residents are a lot more responsible than the businesses are >> because of tax abatements. Now in Parisburg we have an ordinance that school kept old. So in theory we don't lose anything by by some of these abatements that they that they give because negotiating um payments that um school compensation agreements that keep us whole. I don't know. I've not been involved in those negotiations in the past, but I am on the um committee city mayor appointee committee that looks at them every year. We don't have very many. That's what the thing is. We have hardly any city this size here on 7,000 students more tax than I negotiated we have in Harrisburg and um and so
030but like cities you know we do let's say joint economic development township and the city and the county there's potential there and we be involved in potentially negotiating that. happened in many cases. Yes. That people gone in and abated the property taxes without consulting the school. They can at this certain point, right? It was less than 10 years 75%. They don't have to give schools permission. And that's what's happened. They know all this stuff. >> I didn't realize that was just aber thing. I thought that was statewide that schools have >> Parisburg is very Parisburg is very unusual in [clears throat] having an ordinance like that. Now I would argue with I have argued with um in in our in our CRA council meetings that yes you have it in the ordinance but what you
031don't have is transparency. I'm not comfortable that we are being kept whole because we have to negotiate not just negotiate the rate but negotiate with the value and so you could Oh, hey, you know, bring your business in here and we'll school, but we we value it at half what it should have been. >> So, it's a push pull. So, you know, um so the consultant the city uses for this and I go around I trust that you're doing it right, but I you know, not being involved in negotiation myself, I don't know the value is a fair market value. Well, you last year I thought that they were the city was saying in the future to attract business >> that that's the conversation that they had. >> Yes, that's the city has talked about
032revising the ordinance to back off of that. And it's not it's not horrible. I can tell you from personal experience where there's an abatement but we agree on the value and as soon as they devalue so they never come out of full value anyway. So it's a game that's played and so we just have to understand it and the pipeline are aren't doing that now. They came negotiate all this money. Oh now we want to deval it so is not worth as much. >> This is going to be tough. It's good questions, but I think I think Susan makes really good point. I was a demographic data, but I don't know what the right mechanism is to get other feedback. Um, I had these in previous life. I had the same conversations in another district
033and I had and depends on who you asked. I had retirees who were saying we don't want income tax. We don't, you know, we should pay our fair share. other people say I can't afford you know so it just depends on your philosophy I suppose on supporting schools >> anything else on that we have some marching orders at least some more data we need to collect this >> yeah no it is I think at this point it's generating more questions part as to what this is actually going to translate into because there really is a ying and a yang. Um well, we could do this but then on the other hand, this is what happens or uh and then we've got the time period that if we were going to go to an earned income
034tax, right? We have to we have to convert the general tax to an earned income tax and that has to be the first step, right? >> See, I was listening. Um Um, so that it the time to do that would be quite lengthy to we really it's not it's not inappropriate for us to be looking at this now even if we're not looking at it for another two years to be doing it. >> Well, if you're going to if we're going to convert two things are happening, right? You have you have the le we just passed probably if you were to place that tax next year probably need to be on the ballot do conversion the following year pass a year earlier and then Susan's point PI levy expires a year earlier than that so
035we have to be moving on that more quickly so >> I think I think I need manipulatives to say >> so we need to lay out those timelines a little bit >> okay >> we can do that but I think I still think you have to answer the question Regardless of what this isable to >> Yeah. That's not >> But at the same time, we could maybe get rid of some property taxes and roll that into an income tax. They're not paying all the property tax. >> Do something like that, right? >> More balanced. And plus, you know, we are not we are whatever we're left with the 20 mil floor. Um we're 16 mills above it because of the two fixed levies that we have closer. But still the one that's continuing that's it's
036really scary. Think about getting rid of that. Is it is it too early to kind of give us some some time tables of what I mean? Can can that be done? >> Okay. Because my head's getting kind of like wait a minute if if this then that. But if that then this happens kind of a lot of them then statements. I would think our first decision would be >> crazy. >> Okay, so we got we need so demographic data, some times and then some mechanism for public. >> Okay, great. >> That will help. Anything else? You all set? >> I'm good. Sorry. >> Oh, no. That's all right. This This is important stuff. Um, okay. Let's move on to the consent agenda. Do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda? >> Okay. The
037Blues have it. Roll call. >> Oh, no. Wait a minute. Yeah. Do I do roll call now or do we do discussion first? >> Seems like every time we do this the rules change. Okay. So >> yeah, go ahead. I would like 5.2. Okay. Then do we need to vote on that >> to pull them? >> No. >> Okay. So 5.2 uh about the link cruise stipen and 5.4 excuse me [clears throat] about the summer sports camps have been requested to be pulled by Laura. Uh which gives us a remaining of 5.1 and 5.3. So >> roll call >> do roll call on 51 and 53 as the remaining consent agenda. >> Do I have to to ask for a vote on that? Just a roll call. Okay. So go ahead Randy. >> Miss Phillips.
038>> Yes. Okay. Step back to 5.2. You want to start with that one, Laura? >> I'd like to second. Yeah, >> they they've not been paid yet. They did the work, but they've not been paid yet. When they submitted their stipen like paperwork at the end of the year because of some secretarial shortages, I think it just had never been moved to the board. So, because there was a work session now and they had just submitted their stipens, we're like, we we were able to approve it now before they get paid. So, this was work they did back in the fall. It just never got to the board agenda. Typically, it's approved like during the school year, but they've been short a couple key secretarial members. Um, so it just had not been approved. And
039the one member did came on late um at the start of the year to the training. So essentially did half the work that way that stipens half the cost. >> So for link crew for the 26 27 year, will we see >> Yes. You'll see that again in the fall. >> In the fall. >> Yes. Okay. Yep. Okay. Two comments on this one is do we have for purposes do we have a timeline >> it's really challenging to do because >> it's a it's a stipend essentially not a supplemental when it's occurring typically like before it's occurring that's usually when it's approved >> I do have a calendar >> yeah on schedule all at once. >> Yeah. And what happens is to get paid, the staff members that do that work have to fill out
040paperwork. And so they did fill out that paperwork and when they send it, the treasur's office does a great job of checks and balances and they're like, "Hey, this was never approved." And so then I reached out to the high school and said, we we looked, we're like, "Yeah, that never made it on the agenda." So that's why it's being approved now. So they have not been paid yet, but they've done the work. >> Okay. I I highly suggest that we have things that should go on the along with the consider >> the thing that's a little challenging too is there's activity coordinator roles and those like may be determined by the building like partway through the year with what those actually are. So sometimes it's challenging to have an exact timeline of >> it
041seems it seems to me that this is a fairly unusual >> event. Yes, >> I'm not I think the exist so I don't want to also create a lot of extra work for what seems to be. >> Yeah. And it it shouldn't happen again. Like I said, you know, Dr. Folultz was new to the building and we had some key staff changes that >> that's why I'm concerned about this is because we do have a large turnover of administrators right now >> and I want to make sure that going forward we don't continue to have this. So let's document it so that we don't have time. [laughter] I would like that we're really looking at making who are part of military and it's we know that there's children and Chris Any further discussion? >> Yeah,
042just 5.2. >> So then we need to do a roll call on that one. Okay. Roll call, please. >> Men Miller. >> Yes. >> Miss Phillips. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. And on 54 second discussion, sorry. Um, looking at what we've done with the house and then looking at this for boys basketball. Anybody can look at this easily. >> I sure hope that we're generating enough to cover it. >> Okay. And then my question because I'm guessing that a lot of these are students. Do we stress that or do we allow which I think we should during the summer months that this is a great way to get your volunteer I don't know. >> Yes. But I mean it's not much. I mean they're a lot of work kids for 75 bucks. So I um
043I don't know that I mean I'm looking over here. So, these are team members that work with our littles during the summer and that's a great opportunity for little kids to get to know. It's a great opportunity for them also. They remember when they were this age and they have to players. just for their time. >> I just wanted to make sure that we were thoughtful what they're doing. >> Yes. This is not the only So this is visible and I should put on >> it's not paid out. It's not general. >> It's all >> How long is basketball? Is it just one week? >> Just one week. >> Yeah, it's Monday through Friday. >> Really? >> It's at the junior high. So I see him every day. [laughter] It's about time for >> I
044mean they're in there from about 9 in the morning to about 4 in the afternoon with different sessions with kids and age groups you know it's like that the later afternoon sessions are for the junior high kids our junior high coaches are running it but the mornings you see all these kids in there a lot of those kids are coming straight from weightlifting from football walking over and coaching the camp. So this is just for the younger kids. It's not for high school. It's not high school. >> Yeah. Just your like Katie said, your your little ones, your elementary students. >> Roland Miller. >> Yes. >> M. >> Yes. >> Phillips. >> Yes. On to item six, we have the resolution there. I need a motion to approve. >> Susan >> second. Any discussion hearing?
045None. No call. Mr. >> M. Miller. >> Yes. >> Miss Phillips. >> Yes. >> M. >> Yes. >> M. >> Yes. for discussion. I thought of something. Sorry, Laura. I thought of something last night. Um, I got a text from Mr. Farnsworth. He and Phil have a meeting um on the 11th and they are going to finalize the agenda at that point. Apparently, they're having trouble getting together. So, that's that's where the agenda is at. So we should have it in our hands somewhere around I would think the 12th or 13th. You say finaliz >> well finalized as far as their their version and then I'll get as soon as I get it then I'll send it out to everybody so that y'all can look at it and it should be based on that document
046that [clears throat] we created that I sent him. Um so is there anything else for board discussion? Could I just say so we have our first community engagement um community table next week. Sue is going to join me. Um we have two community members hosting it. They sent their invitations out. Um we were fortunate Mr. Hol's going to be here that day as well. So he's actually going to join us as well. Um and they sent the invitation I think they said to 30 people. So we'll see what the response is for how many will attend. Okay. >> What day is that? >> The 11th. The 11th. Thank you for doing that. Anything else? All right. Do I have Wait a minute. Let me get down here. Um, do I have a motion to move
047into executive session for the purpose of discussing the appointment promotion or compensation of specific employees or officials and the investigation of charges or complaints against an employee, official lency, or student unless the employee official lency or student requests a public hearing. Susan Laura Roland Miller. >> Yes. >> Miss Phillips. >> Yes. >> Miss. >> Yes. And >> and to clarify, there'll be no action following executive session. Correct. All right. Stop the recording.