001Good evening and welcome to this November 3rd, 2025 board of education special meeting. Can you call the roleman? >> Here. >> Mrs. Conlin >> here. >> Mr. Lavallet >> here. >> Mr. Feller >> here. >> Mr. Boden >> here. >> Thank you. Please join us in the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. [cough] >> So the first opportunity for public participation would you like to speak about things on our agenda? >> None. Okay, then we are mov. >> All right. So uh going to give a little financial overview and and look at some re additional revenue options tonight. Um a few slides uh you'll
002see repeats from our forecast just to kind of kind of re you know talk over [snorts] uh the next five years and and what I presented on uh last month. So and then we're going to talk a little levby history of Seleni schools. uh and then uh we're going to take a look at a few options and what the financial impact of that will be. So, as we talked about during our financial forecast, we we've we've come to the mark of fiscal year 26 of our expenses outpacing our revenue. Uh and and really that's going to continue at a higher rate even though uh like this year we cut 2 million from our general fund budget uh and things like that. It's just there's nothing, you know, in terms of keeping the programming, keeping the
003opportunities. It's just the trend is going to continue. And that orange line and the orange boxes are the fund balance. So, we'll see our fund balance uh down and then it gets to the negative in fiscal year 29. Obviously, that can't happen, right? We can't operate with a negative fund balance. Uh so we're going to talk uh of what we can do and and what are some options that we have moving forward starting uh each year. So this is just kind of summary with all the numbers. Uh put that asterk down there. Um last time as well just OASBO and uh our own policy uh recommends 90 days cash uh and annual operating expenses. So 6220 states that as well. So you'll see at the bottom there fiscal year 26 uh we end with 96
004days cash and then fiscal year 27 uh next school year it dips to 66. So our policy states look uh we're creeping on that 90day mark um and we need to have some conversations and see where we go and work to a plan to uh balance our budget and get that back up to the 90 days. So, uh, we're kind of in the orange box. This slide was exact duplicate of what the slide I had in our financial, uh, forecast presentation. Um, you know, you know, I kind of want to talk about why it matters. You know, when we creep on, uh, decreasing our fund balance and and having our expenses outpace our revenues, it really gives us limited flexibility and some unplanned cost. You know, some examples of those over the years, uh, we
005had some roughs last year. We've had the pool the last couple of years. Uh we had a parking lot that we had it was double our expenses uh that we originally publicly bid this past summer. So just those types of occurrences can continue to happen and as our reserves get lower and lower it it really gives us limited flexibility and and even with curriculum purchases and things like that. So, you know, I talked about uh last time, you know, obviously our commitment is is obviously to preserve the programming uh and the extracurricular opportunities that we give for kids. Um so, that gets to our next steps. You know, we continually continuously evaluate our costsaving measures. Uh we just submitted on Friday with with Ray and Chris's help back there uh our uh energy efficiency grant.
006Uh we did submit a $1.3 million grant uh to the state of Ohio this past Friday. So all of those things we'll continue to monitor, but you know, we believe it's time to to just start the conversations to uh what additional revenue sources would look like for us. So that's going to be the bulk of the conversation tonight. And feel free if there's things you have questions on, just this can be an informal conversation. just don't hesitate to ask as we move forward. So, here's our our current local tax structure. Um went back and and put a year on all of our levies. Uh you'll see our last levy was done in 2016. That was actually a 4.75 operating expense levy and a 1 mil uh PI levy, permanent improvement. So, that was a combined
007uh levy vote. Uh so 5.7 mil. So you'll see the trend, you know, was 2 to 3 to four years there. Um again, we're going on 10. Come January, we'll be at year 10. So um I think we've done a really good job of managing that last levy that we have that our uh Sylvania community members passed for us in 2016. Um, but and then you'll see I'll talk about this and you guys have heard it many times and we can go kind of fast, but that House Bill 920 reduction factor. I'm going to go in on that because eventually I think we post this uh to our community and in this presentation. So, I wanted to kind of give that backstory as well. Um you'll see we're I mean 80 mills over 80 mills
008of voted millillage uh for Sylvania schools on the operating side and we're collecting at 30 mills. PI levy we're 1.3 down to 77 and bond retirement continues to go down as well uh and it's at 2.3. So we have a total effective rate uh between general fund bond and permanent improvement 33.9. So, I I thought this was interesting. Uh really did this for my own knowledge and then I thought at the last minute I' I'd throw it up there. Just wanted to kind of compare us to uh Lucas County schools and I always include Parisburg because it's a similar district here locally in Northwest Ohio. Uh so all the way on the left you have a total gross rate which is which would be your voted rate. Uh your effective rate there is this next
009column and then bond rate and then permanent permit. So you can see in in the really the effective rate that second uh second grouping is really what our residents are paying on right now. Um we're in the middle we're middle of the road a little lower middle there uh in terms of the schools in Lucas County in Parisburg. And I put an asterk there. Parisburg also has a 0.5 earned income tax that they collect in their community. Um, but you know, as you can see, we're not we're not the lowest and and we're not the highest, which uh, you know, is is pretty is a good thing. So, you know, it's simple terms, you know, in calculating what a property tax mill is, you know, it's self-explanatory there, but you 100,000 times 35%, you get
010a 35% taxable value. Then you divide that by a th00and and then the number of mills and that gets your taxes due. It's not as simple as that, but that's that's really it's the best I can do to explain how to calculate a mill. You have rollbacks, you have homestead, you know, exemptions and things like that. Um, but theoretically, it's one mill for every dollar. One mill equals $1 for every $1,000 of taxable value there. So, House Bill 920, that's where it comes in in terms of the effective rates. Uh, so that tax rate, that voted tax rate, you know, on a couple slides before was in the 80s. Um, and then we collect in the 30s and that is because of House Bill 920. uh that really allows our community members to every time
011their values go up that they do not have a dollar for-doll increase in what their taxes are due and what they pay for the for the local uh levies that have been passed in our community. So, as values go up, rates go down in that middle arrow, we collect around the same amount except for five ms. We talked about this five mills of inside millillage. So that does not have a reduction factor. Uh so that is our only area of growth in terms of property taxes that five mil. So just [clears throat] make sure I understand that. So when we like in 2016 we passed you know whatever we passed. So that whatever the military passed equals a dollar amount, right? We're only collecting that dollar amount. Correct. So as values go up that's why
012the mill goes down. Y >> so effectively right now we're operating on 10year-olds. Is that correct? >> Yes, that is correct. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So the reason why I put 23 and 24 is when we uh had the uh significant increase of the values in Lucas County. Uh it was around 30% here locally in Sylvania. Uh so we were collecting before that reappraisal we were collecting 43 mills and in 24 it went down to 33.9. So there was basically a reduction of 9 mills in terms of the effective rate. That mean that doesn't mean we collected we received 9 mills less revenue. We just that's just that reduction of nine mills is why everyone's property taxes didn't go up dollar for dollar 30%. and why we did not collect 30% additional revenue. So, uh,
013fiscal year 25, we collected half of the increase in assessed values. We received 1.67% of an increase in dollars. Uh, this coming year, we'll get the extra half and and generally we'll have uh more collections of delinquents. So, that's why it's a little bit higher in 2.49%. Um but that 26 is the year where we collect a full year of that higher value and that higher value in terms of dollars is [clears throat] only on that 5 mills inside millage. So you can see with all of our property taxes that we have 80 mil voted 30 mil effective we're getting on average only about 1% increase in dollars. Inflation a lot higher than that. expenses. Even though we do the best we can to to monitor our expenses and make sure they don't rise at
014an astronomical pace, really the the growth of our local dollars is only about 1%. So talked a lot about property taxes. Um there is an alternative option to property taxes and in Ohio uh you school districts can pass a income tax and there's two different types of income tax a traditional income tax or an earned income tax. And when you put a levy when you put an income tax u levy on the ballot you have to put them in increments of 0.25%. So 0.25.5 25.5 75 uh up to I think the max is uh like 3 and a half but um won't be talking about that high of a percent by any means. So um so obviously you guys can read there but I just want to point a few highlights. traditional school district income
015tax is really all revenue um that you would earn in in terms of a community member and it's for only district residents of Sylvania school. So if you own property in Sennsylvania but live in Parishburg, you're not going to pay an income tax, right? It's only district residents uh in the boundaries of Sylvania schools. Uh so traditional income tax, your wages, your pensions, your interest, your dividends, capital gains, all of the revenue that you get, you would have an income tax on. The one exemption in traditional income tax is social security benefits. Uh that's the major one. I mean, disability and survivor and and a few other things, but in terms of the bulk of the exempt income that our community members would have would be social security benefits. Um in terms of you know
016the one of the positives of income tax is potential revenue growth. Um as you know as time goes on generally wages increase and um I I've gotten a estimate from the department of taxation every year since I've been here and every year that's gone up. Right. So uh what 0.25 25 got would get us in 25 is higher than what we would than the estimate I got in 22 when I got here. Um so in terms of income tax that revenue growth potential is there unlike property tax where you have house bill 920 and and really you know those reduction factors income taxes can can grow at a little bit higher pace. Um, earned income tax um is really, you know, W2 income is the easiest way I would explain it. Again, only residents. Um,
017your ex the big exclusions on um earned income tax is your retirement income, social security, interest, dividends, capital gains. earned income tax can look favor more favorable to our senior citizen population um and our retirees because that retiree income would not be taxed. >> So is social security exempt under both traditional and earn. >> Yep. Um so again there's there's always going to be some economic sensitivity when it comes to you know if we have a 2007 happen you know or you know our economy you know takes a crash there. So that there is some um you know some market risk in terms of income taxes. Uh but those are the main differences. Um, so in terms of, you know, thinking about it from a traditional standpoint, you're going to get more people will pay.
018So you could you could we could we'll talk about a scenario in a few moments. Uh, but you can generally go a little bit lower of a percent, but earned income you have a smaller number of of people paying. So that number is a little bit lower. Um, and maybe the percentage would have to be, you know, maybe a quarter% there. So at the bottom there it says 212 districts have out of what like 600. >> Yeah 612 something like that about a third of them. >> Yeah. And so there's 146 traditional and 66. So I will say income tax in in is becoming more talked about throughout the state in terms of an alternative to a traditional property tax. >> Do you know what Parisburg is? >> They're.5 earned. their army >> and they've
019had it since maybe in the '9s, like early 90s. >> So, uh, we've talked about kind of both options and and and pros and cons. Uh, we'll get into here in a little bit, but wanted to throw this property tax option out there. uh you're looking at, you know, and again, this is just just an option, just just talking, just opening up the conversation. Um possibly putting on a on a levy in May of 26. Um looking at 7.9 mills would get us uh to continue to balance our budget uh through 2031. Um, anytime you put a levy a levy on the ballot, you'll have I mean a traditional levy cycle is is we're at the bottom of the curve, right? We're spending our reserves fin, you know, expenses exceed our revenues and then you
020put you pass a levy. You generally collect [cough] a little bit higher than you balance our budget. We'll add back to our reserves, replenish those reserves, and then at the tail end, you'll deficit spend spend those reserves down a little bit. So, uh, we're clear, we're in the in the time of spending our reserves. So, uh, when you pass a levy in in May or November of 26, you start collections 1 one of 27. Uh, so fiscal year 27, you receive half of the amount of the full voted uh, collection. So uh and in in full 7.9 mills gets us at 18 um roughly 18 million a year. Uh so in in fiscal year 27 we collect half of that. Um all of our levies are continuing here at Selenia. Um you do have the
021option of putting a fiveyear on property tax side of things. You do have the option of fiveyear or continuing. Um, like I said, all of our levies here are continuing. Um, I think the other thing to consider when we talk, yes, 7.9 mills gets us to 2031. I think, um, one thing to look at when considering our options is to to find, you don't want to collect, you don't want to collect too high of an amount, but you don't want to go low enough. You want to get several years of operating in the black, right? You want that money to last as long as possible. Case in point, we're on 10 [cough] years. Uh right now, um so as of 2031, uh the estimate would be we'd be at sitting at 114 days true cash,
022not an astronomical amount, not that many days above 90, uh which is a policy and best practices, right? Um, you know, in terms of [clears throat] property taxes, there's a lot of property tax reform legislation going on. I think it changes by the day. I get an email every Sunday morning with with all the changes and what to expect in next week. And none of it really impacts us right now because all of our levies are continuing. We don't have any emergency levies on the on the ballot or have any on the books. We're not on 20 mil floor. Those are some of the big things that are changes. 20 mil floor um is when you collect really it's the lowest amount of tax that you can have on the books and if when values
023go up 30%. If you're on the 20 mil floor, you actually receive all that money. Um so we're we're at 30 mill so that doesn't impact us. Um one of the things that they're considering is um putting a cap on the growth of inside mills. Um so inside mills is is again our only um growth option in terms of property taxes. They're considering putting a cap on that tied to the inflationary um index for that year. Um so if if inflation went up 4% we would the max we could get of collections on the inside millage growth would be 4%. >> How many mills did we ask for in 2016? 5.7 4.7 operating and 1.1 1% um >> PI >> say that again >> 4.7 operating so general fund 1 mil PI so buses you
024know >> would we how the 7.9 you're proposing are you is that going to be broken up to >> No you can't >> all be all operating >> so you said we collect half in 27. So we would cut the full amount until 28. >> Correct. >> And this 28 our last year >> is it in 29 wouldn't our reserve go negative? Is that good? >> Mhm. >> So 28 is the last year where we actually have some reserves left. >> Yep. Yep. So here's here's it broken out. Uh the the basically in the forecasted year did not include 26 because there's going to be no additional revenue. Nothing we can do or or whatever. Can we get additional revenue in fiscal year 26? So, so this is mapped out for the next five years
025with that additional 7.9 mil uh levy voted in 2026. Um, so I highlighted there in blue, that's that half that 9.1 uh gets us to uh a net income. So where we'd be operating uh in the black there from 27 to 30 and then it gets us to 2031. And and I think based on the estimates again, who knows if who knows what 2031's going to look like, you know, if the economy gets better, interest rates get low, we could have an influx of kids come in, who knows what's going to happen with enrollment. So this is a true true estimate of revenues going up by a half percent and uh did expenses uh up 4%. So >> and as we go, I'm assuming obviously we're still going to keep watching our expenses. tripping where
026we can, but you know, so hopefully we can stretch that out a few more years and >> for sure >> maybe maybe get another 10 out of this. >> Yep. >> So yeah, the so the after we you know if this is accurate, which you know is again an estimate, we'd be sitting at 114 days uh true cash in 2031. So, uh, wanted to bring, uh, couple income tax options, um, in May as well. So, when you look when you vote an income tax levy, they [clears throat] there's a slower collection timeline because the Department of Taxation has to get everything set up. They It's all estimates, but it basically takes six quarters to fully uh, collect 100% of what they predicted we would uh receive. So um we would deficit spend in fiscal year
02727 if we did an income tax. So we just spent some of our reserves. We have them. That is a you know again a positive of having those cash reserves. Um you can go any length of time or continuing uh with income tax. Um on the traditional side of things again all income includes retirees includes capital gains includes pensions but does not include social security. Uh full collections uh by fiscal year 29 would be uh over almost 23 million there. What about um companies, corporations, LLC's that well not LLC's but corporations that earn income in the city? Is it so is it >> only self-employment income would it be? So that is um that is the a major difference between property and income is businesses uh the businesses in the district would not pay. This
028is strictly incomebased W2 self-employment zero. So 1% earned um would be another option there. Again um little bit higher percentage by a quarter% to collect around the same amount. It's actually you collect a little le 1% earned income tax actually collects a little bit less uh than a 75 traditional just because you have less um you have less residents paying. Um again same things apply continuing any length of time. Um estimate we'd have about 93 days true cash in 2032 and 122 on the traditional side. But you'll note here it's 2031 is on a property tax side of things. It'd be 2031. Uh that would be the first year of deficit spending. [cough] Here [clears throat] it it goes to 2032. So we could stretch one more year out before uh that we predict that
029we would deficit. [cough] So here's the details on the on the financial side of things. um added that extra year of 2032 uh and and as I noted earlier, we would have another year of deficit spending because of the collection uh rate uh timeline that the Department of Taxation gave me. Uh dipping into the reserves down to 7180 and then back to uh above the 90 days true cash there. Uh, and you'll note the traditional income tax in 2032 is only that deficit spend in in 2032 is less than a half a million dollars. So, I really think uh this option would be would stretch uh would stretch well at the 2033. >> So, we still have over 90 days in 2033. >> Yeah. >> So, that's eight years. And then here's the detail of
030the 1% um you know same things apply deficit spending and 27 and then because um you know a 1% earned collects less than a 75 traditional you have um a larger deficit spend in 2032 uh but still has um you know 3 days above 90 there. So, um you know, it still stretches that additional year of def spending over the property tax. So, uh put this together. It's, you know, won't go over every single line item, but just things to consider uh in in talking about property tax versus income. Um, you know, you look at tax base and and who pays uh either way, you know, residents only on the income tax side of things. On the property tax, you have all property tax owners. So, if somebody that lives in Parisburg owns property in
031Sennsylvania, they would pay the property taxes. So, you you you get some of that business income uh from anyone outside of our district as well. um you know that revenue growth uh is really you know the big difference there. um you have you know the potential of income tax growth and and revenue growth uh with the economy changes and then you have property taxes you know set to bloom at face house not 20 right so there's there's limited growth there um I think income tax is is pretty stable uh but there is that little bit of a risk there in terms of um it can fluctuate um previous district I worked at we had an income tax and there there a year that it decreased. Um, you know, but then there's years that it went
032up 10%. You know, so there's that growth potential. Um, you have your impact on retirees on the property tax side of things. Everyone's paying it if you own property. Uh, and then on the income tax side of things, we have that, you know, um, traditional or earned income tax option. um explanation, you know, this is this is new uh different, you know, in terms of an income tax to fund schools, at least here in Sylvania. Um and then, you know, property taxes, widely understood, [cough] but you know, there's, you know, property tax reform, property tax increases, assessed values, you know, is a hot topic, you know, in the news these days and and in and on how local governments are funded in Ohio and specifically schools. um you know so um you know I put
033this down um you know again income tax relatively new idea here in Sylvania uh but you know as the as the treasurer I I I truly believe that it's something we should consider um in in terms of a strategy to fund our schools. I think it's a it's a more modern, fairer approach. Um it's it can it's many districts are starting to have these conversations. Obviously, a third of the districts already have have, you know, have them in place. I think the property tax reform is a is a hot topic and and a and a growing discussion amongst community members throughout the state. Um and I again, I think it's um thinking differently for our future. Um, I think we can get creative and and find a strategic uh solution to have some stability long
034term. I believe because of the revenue growth potential, I believe the income tax option could get you the longest um stability in in terms of some revenue growth. Uh, but ultimately it's it's just one option. you know, I I think um you know, whether the mill is right or the percentage is right, um you know, I think when we have further conversations or an open dialogue tonight later, uh with your thoughts, I mean, I really think it comes down to three options. A traditional property tax, you know, I did 7.9 there because it gets us to 2031 um and and above 90 days true cash. Uh but I think that there's two other options and I think that's 75 traditional income tax or a 1% earned income tax. Um obviously the the middle, you know,
035middle traditional tax there, it does have the highest fund balance in 2032. It does have the highest true days cash. Um and and then the other two are are hovering right around that 90 days. Uh whether it be 20 30 Well, there I I use 2032 for both these examples. So, all of the dates um are 2032 in terms of fund balance and today's cash. >> You may have said this income tax traditional versus earned neither affect social security. That >> Correct. And so if we when we go out for a levy, if we did property tax, your um recommendation would be 7.9. >> Yeah, I think so. Um you know, because of that, [cough] here we are with deficit spending, the timing of of when to replenish some cash reserves and then I believe
036getting out as far as we can is is a positive. I mean there is there is some you know in the past we've gone every two to three to four to 5 years right you can keep the millillage down a little bit we've gone 10 there had there is some disadvantage of going 10 but we have the fund balance there's no need there was not a need to to not spend some of our reserves down right but now that we're at the 90 days I believe the 7.9 gets us um 5 to seven years you I think would get us that far. >> 7.9 is a big ass. >> It is a big ask >> and the alternative is if we go lower that like you said we're we're starting the lovey cycle every couple
037three years. >> Y >> which could be an option. I mean >> the state has eliminated our ability to do a combined income tax and correct property tax levy. Right. >> We have to pick one or the other. >> And the income tax is that on AGI or is it um like gross income? on the traditional side of things there. It's yeah, it's um it's pretty much HDI. Um I think there's some credits that the Ohio gives that the federal doesn't. That's why social security is not taxed on the Ohio side is um I think the line item on the Ohio tax >> like 401k contribution things like that would not >> on the not on the earning side. Not on there. So how many um >> on the traditional side it would >> Okay.
038So we before like 401k >> contributions would deducted >> but your capital gains on the interim you know if you're day trader what you know those aren't going to count if you if we're on the earned side but it would on the traditional side. >> Felt like I talked way too much. I mean any other great information. I mean that it's good >> a lot to absorb. >> It's you know, you know, I think we're in a I think we're in a really good spot, right? We have we've we've l we we've we've taken the the levy cycle. We've we've went 10 years. We have an unbelievable amount of programs and offerings for our kids. Um, our expenses, again, I talked about this on the forecast side of things when I when I presented on
039the forecast, our expenses per pupil continue to be lower than the county average, lower than um, peers that the OD, you know, Department of Workforce Development um, kind of compares us to. We're lower than the state average. I mean, on the expense side of things, other than, you know, losing programming, losing opportunities from K for kids, there's there's not a lot we you know, a lot more we can do. I mean, we 86% of our our b our budget is salaries and benefits. Um, you know, so I think we've done I think we've done a very good job with our with our tax dollars and stretching them and providing, you know, all the opportunities that we do have here. So, I think we've done a really good job with it. you know, if a levy
040is something you guys want to consider, um, you know, I think, you know, we have to decide property or income. Um, there's certain, um, dates that we want to hit. Um, the last one being the the final resolution to put something on the May ballot would be February of 20 February 4th of 2026. >> And and you're thinking we need to do something next year because if because it's it's a year before we collect it. So if we wait if we don't do something next year and wait here after that then we not collecting until we're done until we're out of our >> reserves. Yeah. So if you pass in 26 you collect uh >> half in 27 on the income tax side of things you get about 20%. >> And then if you wait
041until calendar year 27 again have the reserves to to we'd have to make some reductions. >> Well we wouldn't be collecting all of it so at least 29 and we're out by then. >> Yeah. So I think the longer you wait the even larger of the ask to be >> but you say if if we want to consider I mean this isn't really a choice of whether we want to consider it really at this point when are we going now and how are we >> yeah correct in May I mean I think I mean you do have some options right May or November but I think um you know it would be my recommendation to to start May and and to put that first ballot on >> because either May or November we're collecting >>
042yes because if Yes, correct. A passage and and it gives us two opportunities to pass if we need to. Hopefully, we would only need one, right? >> Hopefully. >> Uh but you collect at the same timeline. >> But so so if we wanted to try something new and say, "Hey, we're going to try uh income tax, make sense to try that in May." And then if we couldn't get that done, we might just maybe go back to the traditional try property. >> Yeah. I mean, that's a that's a good way to to to say it and look at it. If if you're going to try something new, it [laughter] should definitely be try the new thing first, right? Because it's going to take some education. Explain, you know, the difference between whether you guys decide
043traditional or earned. Um, and get that, you know, information out, get that education out. Uh, and then at the end of the day, too, think of how many new res I mean, there's we've gone 10 years. There's a lot of people in this community that have never voted for a levy in the sub schools, you know, going that long. Um, so we also need to get a pulse of of where our community is. Okay. >> Next steps. >> Yeah, next steps. So the next step would be I guess we all have to really think about >> yeah we all have to think about >> what we want to do. >> So realistically when do we need to make a decision by in order to have enough time to get all the paperwork and resolutions and
044all that [clears throat] actually get on the ballot? >> Again if we pass a resolution and we get it the 11th hour would be February 4th. >> So February is like the very latest. >> Yeah. I wouldn't. >> You have to pass two different resolutions. So, you got to do it over a course of several board meetings. Ideally, it'd be nice to have it wrapped up that second resolution in January. And we can always schedule a special meeting, too, to to pass the resolution, but um ideally mid January just to because we'll work with legal to make sure we exa have the exact language, the exact um you know, dollar amount and all that good stuff. So, there's some work and some prep time uh to get all those done, but ultimately the last resolution
045needs passed um in February, but preferably >> I would say but >> but but what do you want us to do? >> Yeah. Right. Mid January. >> Mid January would be great [clears throat] >> for the second resolution. >> Right. So, the first resolution in December. >> December. >> Yeah. >> And we've only got one meeting in >> one more in November. >> We have one more in November. Next one. >> And then one in December. We have two. >> Yeah, we have two in December. >> Two weeks in. >> That's That's pretty. >> We have two meetings in January, too, right? >> Yeah. We have the organization. >> Yeah. Two meetings in January. Correct. >> So, we could do it at the two. >> You could Yeah, you could. >> You know, as you
046digest this, if you have any questions, you can. I mean, we have another meeting, you know, Monday on the 10th. you know, feel free to to to ask me anything. We can, you know, have further discussion, you know, whatever works for you guys. >> Anybody have any other questions? >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [snorts] >> Okay, got the agenda. I will recommend item 4.1 uh license substitutes for black are licensed. I move for approval. >> Second. Any comments [clears throat] or questions? >> Greg, >> yes. >> Tammy, >> yes. >> Dan, >> yes. >> Kim, >> yes. >> Julie, >> yes. >> Thank you. I recommend items 5.1 and 5.2 as consent items. 5.1 classified new hires and 5.2 is a classified termination. I'll move for approval on consent agenda basis items 5.1
047and 5.2. >> I'll second. Can I answer questions? >> Adam. >> Greg? >> Yes. >> Kim? >> Yes. >> Julie? >> Yes. >> Tammy? >> Yes. >> Dan? >> Yes. >> Thank you. I will recommend items 6.1 through 6.4 as consent agenda items. 6.1 are supplemental positions for 2526. 6.2 are non-eing pupil activity contracts for 2526. 6.3 our resignation of supplemental positions for 2526 and 6.4 are changes to supplemental positions for 2526. >> I'll move for approval [clears throat] agenda basis item 6.1 through 6.4. >> I'll second question. >> Kim, >> yes. >> Julie, >> yes. >> Tammy, >> yes. >> Dan, >> yes. >> Greg, >> yes. >> Thank you. This a second opportunity and seeing none.