Board of Education Meeting - August 25th, 2025

001Good evening. I'd like to call this August 25th, 2025 board of education meeting to order. Mr. Follow. >> Miss Hoffman >> here. >> Mrs. Conlin >> here. >> Mrs. Lavallet >> here. >> Mr. Feller >> here. >> Mr. Bowen >> here. >> Thank you. Please join for the pledge of allegiance. >> I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Would you report? >> Thank you, Miss Huck. Good evening, everyone. I'm here to share some wonderful news. The beginning of the 2526 school year began quite smoothly this year. It was successful. It was orderly across all of our buildings across the district. It was great to be out and about to see the

002new shoes and the new lunchboxes and all the bikes outside of the buildings and listening to the band practice and football and soccer and not to mention the taste of Sylvania that took place last Friday evening and we are up and running like we didn't miss a beat. We are already into the throws of the school year. I think our students and staff transitioned into routines with minimum disruption. It was just calm um and productive. And when I went to our elementary buildings to talk to our elementary teachers, they gave a lot of positive feedback about how we did our somewhat of a staggered start, but giving them that extra day to get their rooms prepared. They really enjoyed the meet and greet. allowed they felt it allowed to have them to have more personable

003conversations with parents that were meaningful without folks lining up outside of the room and we sometimes have open house and everybody's around and wanting to talk but they could give personalized attention to every family. Um so that was good. Also we had a lot of strong student engagement and clear communication. I remember I was over at Timberstone. Well every building it seemed like they were going through their their drills. Everything was about a drill. I drove by Arbor Hills twice trying to get in there, but you guys were still outside. So, I kept circling and circling waiting for you to go back in. So, I came back later. Unfortunately, we did have a little exciting episode over at McCord. Um, a little swarm of sorts, but we had one teacher that was I think she

004was stung 12 times. Um, to show you the dedication of our staff here in Sylvania, she kept on teaching. She said, "I have a great lesson to teach. I'm okay." She might have been a little swollen in some spots, you know, a little lumpy, but needless to say, McCord, you handled it with grace and class, even though it was a little bit of pandemonium there for a while. Um, wanted to also circle back to the Taste of Savannah. It was a huge success. We went in a total different direction this year with food trucks instead of the canopy. We heard great things from the food trucks and some of our visitors. Boy, the tailgating in the parking lot is in full swing as well. We'll leave that alone. Um, we had food trucks, fans, cheerleaders,

005dance teams, just families tailgating. I saw many more barbecue grills than I've seen in the past. Um, so they were coming out and just having a family time and then going to the game. Um, of course, we had our athletic hall of fame on the field that night. We also gave away a $2,000 scholarship to an Owens student who was actually gone through our career ed program here in the district. And um just overall the hometown hero. Overall, it was just a really positive first week. Um, the other thing I wanted to share and discuss as part of my superintendence report is I am leading the charge of revisiting PE waiverss for the 26 27 school year. Um, this is really coming out as a part of our ongoing review of district programming and resources.

006I will be revisiting the use of PE waiverss here in our district. While these waiverss, as I've always said, has provided additional opportunities for students and flexibility, I want to broaden the consideration and look at the long-term fiscal impact financially. It is cost avoidance. Um, so we will be having some further discussions in the future about that around the table here for all of us to discuss. So, just laying that out so folks know um that it is a part of conversation right now. at least they're bringing it back to the table for conversation um to see what it will look like or could look like for the 26 27th school year. Of course, that has to go with board support. Um but I just want to let everybody know that that is a direction

007we're looking to revisit for the next school year which is 2627. And that concludes my superintendence report. Thank you. Thank you. We are still with you for recognition of achievement. >> Yes, ma'am. We have a number of students listed here from both South View and North View. First, we have noted Southview students for their ACT scores. A number of students uh scored a 26 or higher during the summer testing window. And then we also have some Northview students who also took the ACT as well as SAT. ACT again above 26 or above. and SAT scores were uh 600 or higher. So, congratulations to those students earning some very high scores on the national assessments. Very proud of them. I'll move approval. >> I'll second. Any comments or questions? I will say at least with regard

008to North Carolina is completely one student. Oh, we got one student, Miss Lavallet. We will check it with one student who's missing, Miss Lavallet. >> I will make sure we capture that individual's name. Thank you for letting me know. >> Did that one student take it on one of these dates? >> Yes. >> Okay. Well, >> congratulations to that one. >> I'm only aware of one. >> There's probably others. And that was ACT, correct? Or SAT? >> ACT. Yes. >> All right. >> Okay. >> Thank you, >> Julie. >> Yes. >> Kim, >> yes. >> Tammy, >> yes. >> Greg, >> yes. Dan, >> yes. >> Thank you. First opportunity for public participation for items which are on the agenda. Seeing none, we are with you, ma'am. >> Um, all right. So, thank you. I'm

009going to do a short presentation today. just a kind of quick glance of how we ended last year compared to the forecast compared to the last couple years and then just a few changes that we're we're looking to to um as a result of the state budget as a result of uh some forecast changes. So, just wanted to take 5 minutes to go over a few things and then we'll ramp up our conversations uh around forecast time which this year will be in October. Um so uh just a quick glance at where we ended uh last year compared to where the forecast uh so in May we had the forecast there underneath the blue. Um our revenue did um was a little higher than we anticipated uh by about 145,000. Nothing big there. A few

010extra dollars in state revenue um and some higher than interest totals. And then our expenses actually went down. um as predicted um by about 600,000 and we originally transferred uh we approved that transfer up to 6.7 million and we actually ended up only transferring six. So that's why um that that's why there's a positive uh net change of about 720,000 there. Uh but because the overall other than that uh $700,000 expense reduction in transfers, it was about about a wash there. Um then as we forecasted in May, kind of a three-year look back on total revenue uh expenses and fund balance. You can see our revenues uh continue to go up slightly. Um and then our expenses that we've been talking about for the last couple years have gone up a little bit higher than

011our revenues. Now you'll see there in fiscal year 25 that middle column total expenses I mean that 110 compared to 100 million it seems wow that's a big jump. Now, you got to remember six million of that is set aside for capital, you know, improvements when, you know, whether it be roofs and and asphalt, um, you know, parking lots, you know, we have some pool expenses we just passed. you know, those are those are types of things that we're kind of wanting to set aside for um to then it'll help us budget our general fund a little easier if those types of capital expenses are reserved in in that fund 70. So that's uh if you take out that 6 million um we were balanced last year pretty much. So we had 104 uh million

012in revenue and if you take that transfer out we had 104 expenses as well. So, um and then you'll look at the far right column, you have a fund balance, uh 36 to 38 down to 32. Again, that 32 has that forecast or that um transfer uh included in that. So, that's why it went down to 32 million. Uh quick glance at revenues. Um I feel like we've been hammering this uh you know all last year, but our our property tax revenue went up by about 2%. Um you know based on the inside millillage is is what that result of even though um property values throughout the state throughout the state and specifically in Lucas County um went up by about 30%. we still only received 2% revenue increase and that is because of House

013Bill 920. Um, state Ohio pretty much a wash there. Uh, 27% of our general fund revenue uh did decrease by less than, you know, a quarter%. Um, and that's, you know, now that we're in the well, we're fully phased in on the second to last year, fully phased in on the fair school funding plan. Um we will I mean we're funding kids now which is ideal. That's how it should be. Um so if our if our student you know enrollment went up you know we'll see a little bit of a little bit of dollars extra there. As revenue goes down we'll see the same. Um you know other revenue um we got two payments and I talked about this last year the forecast time. We got two payments. We got an extra payment in Medicare

014reimbursement. So that'll go down next year. Uh but it was nice nice little jump this year. Uh expense side of things. Um you know pretty much as we talked about in May and as to be expected salaries and benefits sitting about 81%. Um if you remember this past year was the first year from bringing back those ESSER expenses that we we we were paying out of the general fund. spent a couple years using Esser funds. Now this year they were back to being paid out of the general fund. So that's why you'll see salaries go up by 7%. You know, benefits only went up by four, but it was because we made some healthcare changes. Uh that number would have been higher as well. So you know, salaries normally don't go up by 7% every

015year. just was a you know primarily as a result of the raises steps and obviously those ESRE funds coming back. Uh utility costs and special ed continue to rise and purchase services. Um we like to see that number about 3% but purchase services went up about 9.6%. Um you'll notice obviously we just talked about that and the transfers set aside for capital maintenance uh parking lots, roads, buses, furniture, HVAC equipment, things like that. Uh supplies went down. Um we have, you know, we have a few principles in the room. We have uh decreased their building budgets throughout the last couple years. Uh and we've had um science of reading was a one-time purchase in FY24. Did not make that in FY25. So that that was about 400,000. So that that's why supplies decreased by such

016a large number there. Um and then other is you know just a small percentage of our expenses. So in in total uh we went up about 9.8%. Um but that is primarily you know due to that $6 million transfer there. I wanted to I I brought these up on our forecast uh last May and I just want to I kind of updated I updated these for fiscal year 25 and I just wanted to kind of really this is for my own you know sanity and my own knowledge but I wanted to make sure that everyone was aware just you know kind of where the money is increasing over time. student support, uh just a lot of your counselors, a lot of your aids, um you know, those types of um you know, those types of

017expenditures, 38%, regular instruction, only about 18% and I plan on going diving into these with you guys throughout the year just so we can drill down on these expenses if you'd like, at least in our finance committee. Um, you know, but the the big number there is, you know, so we've talked about this for the last couple years, special ed, 42% increase since 2018. So, I mean, you're looking at, you know, over $5 million that we've we've seen jump in special ed costs and admin costs. I kind of wanted to just kind of, you know, leave this up there, you know, to show like, you know, a lot of times people talk about administrative support and, you know, how much it is. here it's only 10% over since 2018 we've only increased um less than

018a million dollars in in admin support. So that's uh you know I think that's a good sign you we're putting our money where where it's needed and that's specifically the direct construction for kids. Um and these transportation custo maintenance those were about 22% increase uh over that span. So, we're not talking we're not talking tens of thousands. I mean, we're talking millions um that these have gone up uh over the last um you know, 7 years or so. Um and then, you know, this is the same slide as May, but uh you know, we're looking at you know, having about $2 million reductions going into this school year. Uh we made some staff changes, reduced some contracts, um reduced some materials and supplies budget. um with a grand total of about $2 million that we

019we reduce coming into this school year, fiscal year 26. Now, that does not mean, you know, that doesn't mean we're going to see, you know, a debt we're not going to deficit spend, you know, um or we are, you know, we're not going to reduce our expenditures where we're operating in the black, you know, so our expenses are still going to rise, but we did cut 2 million from that. um revenues um budget bill was passed. Um we're going to lose about a million dollars. Um and that has to do with the general uh incre or decrease from the state budget as well as a little bit of enrollment decrease and then our numbers for the in January when the governor's budget came out originally it was kind of under the impression that our higher

020assessed value was included in that um in those numbers. So as the cess values are you know included in our foundation numbers state share goes down those were not included. So that's why you know on this in June I let you know that our uh revenue was going to be down about 600,000 that's why it's going to be closer to a million because those numbers were did not include you know on paper it looks like we're you know wealthier. How much is this year versus comparing 26 versus 27? >> So 27 they're supposed to go back up about a half a million. >> Okay. >> So >> it's 1.5 down in 26. >> No positive for us. So like we're going to get an additional 500,000 the next year. >> So the the the million

021is all this year. >> Mhm. >> Yep. >> And then forecast changes. I talked about a little bit of this at the beginning, but we're going to present in October this year. Um, it is they did change from a 5year to a three-year forecast. Um, unless you guys tell me otherwise, I'm going to continue doing it on a 5-year uh 5-year forecast basis just because I want I still even though it's hard to f, you know, predict those last two years, I think it's important to to show at least us and the community kind of where we are continuing 5 years out. >> All right, that's that's all I got. just in case we want to contact you. >> Yes. I'm going to put it on our website. That's why I had that. You know

022how to get a hold of me. So, >> um, of the 600,000 that was transferred into the capital maintenance fund. >> 6 million. Sorry. Um, how much of that did we actually use during fiscal year 25? >> No. We've already incurred some numbers though. >> Yeah. Yeah, we did incur some. I mean, we're going to do some the the parking lot, the resurfacing. Um and then um have the uh pool slated in there as well. >> How much do you do you have any idea how much we'll be using this year? >> Uh I mean I I would prefer not to use any more than the parking lots and the pools. Um that way we can have time to to really hone in on on a true plan. Um, and there's things that I'm working

023on um with Rey and and facilities committee on a grant, almost a matching grant um that we could use some of that money to get free money from the state. So, that's that's kind of where we are now. It's a little too early to tell and what that could look like, but would the goal would be to leverage that money. >> Do we know how much the resurfacing is going to take? >> Uh resurfacing was was originally under 350,000 and then we had to add that add-on at Highland um which would be which was over anotherund and something. So >> it would be over 500 but we got we got a lot of real estate done. I think we did >> four four of our buildings, two of our high schools. >> They look great.

024>> Thank you. Thank you. >> I like the slide that actually shared the increase in special ed to over time. just that data to share that even though we're the same district um within our doors of our buildings and what's happening in classrooms and the needs for students and their supports and um to be able to make sure they have access to a quality education that number has increased and we have still continued to provide them with exceptional opportunities. So thank you for sharing that data. >> Hi I'll just go in. I have all consent agenda items, all normal annual occurrences here. 5.1 is minutes from July 28th, August 4th, and August 11th. 5.2 is treasures report for the month. And as you noted in my update, um I'll put the more detailed version uh

025starting next month once I get the software up and running. There's just so many changes from July and August in terms of timing. It's kind of pointless to compare last year to this year at this point. So, uh, availability of funds, only one this time. Um, do have a class transfer, uh, from, uh, Southview, class of 2025 going into 018 Southview building. Uh, 5.5 is Aspireou. Uh, we did that in June last year, but with the budget, um, there were going to be some changes. They ended up not coming. um not happening. Uh but that is Aspire through a grant through Department of Education um and Penta. And then cell phone payments for the year. Uh athletic support personnel junior high uh and high schools going to be no changes next year. Um I just

026wanted to get those approved. Um again, even though we were not making any changes. So 5.8 is consent. I'll move for approval on a consent agenda basis. Items 5.1 through 5.7. >> I'll second questions. >> Can you guys see this? I don't have it. >> I don't have this home. >> Oh, wait. Now I Wait a minute. Just log back in and now I can. >> Yeah. I put them in I put it because they had people's names. I put mine in I put them in. >> Yeah. I I just couldn't see it. Usually it shows up and then I had I refreshed it and now it's there. Okay. Anything else? >> Kim, >> yes. >> Greg, >> yes. >> Dan, >> yes. >> Tammy, >> yes. >> Julie, >> yes. >> Thanks, guys. >>

027Thank you. I recommend item 6.1, which is payment in L for the 2526 school year. As noted, move approval. >> A second. >> Comments or questions? Yeah. Julie, >> yes. >> Greg, >> yes. >> Dan, >> yes. >> Tammy, >> yes. >> Kim, >> yes. >> Thank you. I recommend item 6.2, which is a service agreement between the board of education resolute on interpreting for the 2526 school approval. >> Second question. >> Tammy, >> yes. >> Greg, >> yes. >> Julie, >> yes. >> Kim, >> yes. >> Dean, >> yes. >> Thank you. I recommend item 6.3 which is a service equated direction solutions LLC pro therapy. I'll >> second question. >> Julie, >> yes. >> Greg, >> yes. >> Dan, >> yes. >> Tammy, >> yes. >> Kim, >> yes. >> Thank you. I

028recommend item 6.4, for a policy for second read more specifically policy 5136 personal communication license we have to go this was tabled so don't have to it'll move to unt >> yeah Julie >> yes >> Greg >> yes >> Tammy >> yes >> Kim >> yes >> Dan Yes, >> now I can say it. >> I would like to recommend item 6.4, a policy for a second brief, policy 5136, personal communication devices. >> I'll second questions. >> Why yes, I do. >> Yes. So, my concern with this policy is um that I I'd like to see an affirmative allowance of smartwatches. And as came up last night when I received, some of you may have received that a random a random email from a young man who was concerned about use of student Chromebooks, which

029I I did not think we were even considering. Um, but then I as I was reading the policy, it's like, well, this policy is not very clear on how that it just seemed ambiguous. So, my recommendation would be to have section E call out smartwatches and e-readers. And then I'd like paragraph F to say students may use personal Chromebooks and other laptops in lie of district issued Chromebooks. However, this allowance is a privilege which may be forfeited. basically the rest of that sentence that was already there just so that it's clear that when that we're saying that personal Chromebooks and computers can be used >> until you abuse that and you lose that privilege. Um so that would be those would be fixes that I could then support this. >> Tell me that tell me

030about that smartwatch again. Where where was that looking at? Um, e, it would just say smartwatches and e-readers. >> And that would with your suggestion, you're looking at the smartwatches and e-readers to be used to for junior high and high school students at lunch and in between classes as long as they do not distraction. But it also says cellular data and Bluetooth on such devices may be disabled. My my intent Yeah. My intent here is that students who still be able to tell time with that use a stopwatch, use their heart monitor, count their steps, but they can't use it to scroll social media or text message their friends. >> Um, how are we going to police right now? >> Yeah. And also, how are we policing anything? If we are truly turning off iMss,

031that will also affect smartwatches. And I would venture to say probably 75% of these smartwatches don't have their own cell phone number. They're tied to a cell phone that's going to be in a locker allegedly, which we also cannot police very well. So unless we're searching bags every day, any other thoughts? I mean, I agree with Cameron. I had several parents over the weekend express concern to me about their kids ability to use. they seem to think that they are not going to be able to use um their personal laptops any longer and that wasn't my understanding that was part of this. So I was I appreciate that clarification and obviously my position on smartwatches has been the same the last two meetings that we've discussed it. So this is the third. >> I concur.

032Anything else been said? So you've put forth the policy that you believe we should that you're recommending. This is your recommendation. Yes. >> Including smart watches as being lockers. And you know, initially I didn't really have an issue with lunchtime, smartwatches, phones, but after meetings and speaking to our administrators, people in the building, they are all asking us, please have us have the cell phones and the smartwatches in the locker, often in the locker, and they're the ones in the building. So, I feel pretty strongly that as every administrator has said, that this is what they want us to do. I am willing to support that. >> So, at a public meeting last month, I asked that question of our principles and they said out loud, "We're going to treat a watch as a watch

033until that I find them texting on it and then we're going to tell them to take it off." Not one principal has said to me they want their smartwatch in the locker room. So, >> so think that we're assuming smart watches are easily identifiable. They're Apple watches. Yes, they have a they have a look. There are a lot of other smart watches that look like any other watch from the 1990s. And so the idea that we're going to police them, I think the, as I've said before, I think the um the police mechanism will be more disruptive than the actual smartwatch. And I just think that that is us kind of micromanaging. We have building leaders saying to us, "This is what we need from you." And we're saying, "Oh, that's too hard for you,

034so we're not going to give it to you." Like, and or we're already setting them up them up to fail to say, "Oh, you can't do it, so we're not going to give you the policy that you're asking for." >> I disagree. I don't think that's micromanaging. I think what we're doing is acknowledging the reality of the situation and then also um you know providing a policy where we we're we're not going beyond the mark. We've been the state has asked us to go to a certain point and our policy is going to that point and to go further I think is unnecessary and again I think it creates a situation where the enforcement is more disruptive than the actual device. >> Also I just I mean at our first meeting smartwatches wasn't even I

035mean I felt like we were all in agreement. Okay, smartwatches Bluetooth off. I I don't know where this they're asking us from the buildings came from cuz I've not gotten that at all. >> Well, I think Dan can attest that we did get that in a meeting with both high school principles and um Alex Park and I mean so that was >> Yeah. I mean that was crystal clear and I think that's why they're all probably sitting here today because you know that's what they're asking us to support and I believe from my conversations with Dr. Mildly as she has struggled to put forth a policy that she felt all five of us could support because we're all kind of in different spots and so she couldn't come up with a policy that would suit

036all of us. So she fell back and I don't want to speak for you to putting forth a policy that supported the administration her building administrators and all the administrators and this is what you think is best. I'm recommending what I put forth because I did I listened to our administrators. I also spent time in our buildings last week. Um I wanted to see the two true put my eyes on it. What's going on? What does it look like? I know at North View because on in all honesty and in transparency, I think we all were kind of hanging on to this is going to be a big deal and we're going to see phones and confiscated phones and kids are going to struggle and we really thought and it hasn't been like if anything

037I shared with a couple of you in our side meetings that or not side meetings, monthly meetings that a couple of the kids I was at South View and they were telling on each another saying he has his phone, he has his phone. It was almost like if I can't have it, you can't have it. Um, which is kind of a a good place. They're kind of self-p policing, if you will. Um, I know at Northview there were a total of I think seven phones taken on Tuesday, four phones on Wednesday, six phones on Thursday. So, it has not been this huge uproar. Now, I will say I put this policy forth and you already said what I was going to say. When I have met with our administrators, this is what they've asked for.

038Um, they have asked for smart watches to be in lockers along with cell phones. I have also shared with you that I want to support our administrators and our educators. I also know that a policy also can be revised. I think Kim, what you put forth about having smartwatches available during lunch, um I think it was a worthy way to kind of say let them have the at least be able to use the watch during a certain time of day. I don't know if, no disrespect, how practical it's going to be for a student to put on their watch at lunch and take it off at lunch. I would almost imagine a kiddo would put it on at lunch and then forget to put it back in their locker because it's such a natural part

039of how they function in life that they're not going to think, "Oh, let me take my smartwatch off and put it back in my locker," which could also be um another I guess behavior to tackle. Um I also like that you clarified about private devices. I also think when that was never an issue that students could not use a private device. I think what we saw in Soupnotes and we can be more um specific about it. We have communication going out this week in regards to Bill Guardian blocking texting on MacBooks, iPhones, smart devices, anything that's on an iOS system. So where right now and we have had um even some of our own employees their children are texting them through their MacBooks and it's like don't do that. So we know that this is

040something we're going to be chasing. We know the behavior is something we'll be chasing. Um the fact that someone said I think it was Alex they're using a Google doc. We're not going to block Google Docs as the way we do our work, but there will be always another go a workaround. I think my intention of bringing this forward and presenting it as it is is because I was trying to support and will continue to advocate for what our administrators say they need. However, as the board of education, your number one job is not only to hire and evaluate the treasurer, the superintendent is board policy, and I respect that. I think letter F by making it more clear about it's a it is a privilege to use your personal device. It's a privilege to

041use a Chromebook. Either way, if you use it inappropriately, there are consequences associated with that. Smartwatches and e-readers, e-readers. I didn't see one. I will say I did see iPads in the cafeteria. I walked around the cafeteria to see what they were doing. Students were working. They were working on their assignments in the cafeteria. Now, I also want to say it was the first week of school and they were really they had their their um keep boards connected to their email. >> You know what? No, they were they were actually they were there were documents. I went around I didn't see an email. I thought that maybe they could have the same thing, right? I had email a text conversation. Um uh but I guess we're just always going to have to be very thoughtful

042and I would like to say whatever direction the board chooses to go with this policy as we always do we have an opportunity to revisit if and when we see other behaviors arise that we need to address. >> I know we focused on administrators but I don't have that survey from the feedback on the survey from teachers. >> Yes. And I guess the only other thing if we do allow watches during lunches, I know you mentioned junior high and high school. That would actually be expanding opportunities for a junior high compared to what their current policy is, which is often or often out of sight throughout the entire school day. We've never allowed junior highs, I believe, to use their watches during lunch to text. >> Not as not as a device to text. I

043mean, they wear them, >> but they wear them all day. got you on that. But I didn't know I I didn't know if you had said they could use them. >> No, >> I haven't said anything. I'm trying to policy and suggest >> I I don't want to throw away the ability to wear a watch because it can do some things and I don't under so I I agree. I don't want kids text messaging. I I think that's always been our policy and our you know for sure. >> Yeah. and and >> maybe I miss >> and the way it's written, Bluetooth and cellular would be required to be disabled. So if it weren't and they were texting, it would be a violation of policy. >> I mean, and they could lose the privilege of

044being allowed to have I I mean, if if they're using for other reasons. I I just I I just want the kids to be able to wear a watch, their watch, and use it for the things that are not about social media and texting, which as I understand it is the whole reason that we are that this that's the main concern for this law, the distractions. >> Yeah, I you know, I agree with Dr. M. They said, "I want to support our administrators cuz they're the ones in the buildings. They're asking for this." And, you know, I I do think the intent of the law is to limit distractions during the day. So, I think even having the watch, even though they may not be using it, if they're getting texts and the watch is

045buzzing and time to stand up, I it's all distractions. My opinion, and this is just me, but I think it's easier like everyone's talking about it's harder to enforce. I think it's easier to enforce if like the rule is just watches in the locker rooms. That's it. It's easy to enforce. I think allowing the kids to have the watches. Okay. Are you using it? Are you not using it? What are you using it for? Is it Bluetooth on? I just think it's for me I think that's more difficult to enforce. I'm I'm just put in the locker rooms that way we don't have distraction. I think that's the intent of the law. That's our talk about >> No, it doesn't. But I think the intent of the law is that kids aren't distracted during the

046day. That's what we're trying to get to. And I think >> Are we going to ban everything that distracts kids? It's it's what Tim said in our very first meeting. >> It's the behavior, not the device. And right now, this goes too far with the device. >> Kids are going to find a way to communicate. >> And so, we're interested in behavior. So, if we come distraction, it's gone. If it is not, then knock yourself out. >> And less than a year ago, we revisited this policy and there was a parent survey. I think you formed a committee. I went back and looked at some articles. There was internal committees and the decision was made not to change the policy at all. So it I can't believe that how much has changed in the last

0476 months. >> Yeah, that was House >> but for itself but that included >> Yeah. House bill 250 was what we needed to have policy by July 1, >> right, >> of this year. And it was determined to to keep things, >> right? We decided to get we did not make it any stricter and and I know that things have obviously changed in terms of cell phones and we're following that. In fact, we're following it more strictly than we're required to. I think that the legislation only requires us to have cell phones put away and we're putting them in lockers. So, we are f we're following that more strictly than the governor required, but there's nothing in that that requires a change with regard to other electronic devices. And less than a year ago, we

048decided not to make a change with regard to electronic devices. So, I I don't think all that much has changed in the last few months since that decision was made. >> Yeah. And I agree with you. I want to go back to something Dan said, the behavior, not the device. Yes. But this policy helps that we're not making our administrators and our teachers have to police it. Is your Bluetooth on? What's happening? I mean, it's just black and white. Like, you can't have it. It's in leaving it so they can have the device. Now we're having them have to police the behavior >> more so number one and yes I agree with >> I'll let you finish sorry >> and yes I agree with you they are going further but I think the difference here

049is now correct me if I'm wrong is now that our administrators in the building and in central office are saying this is what this is the support we need this is what we would like to see in the policy and I That's the difference for me. That's the difference. >> There's one changed in the last 6 months that made a different recommendation other than what the governor changed with regard to cell phones which we are doing. I would say the governor gave us and the law changing really gave us more strength behind addressing the behaviors because otherwise it is such a change of behavior as a school district in a building to say, "Hey, we're going to be in our two high schools and the only state banning cell phones and PCDs." That that would

050have been a tough cell if we were the only district going down that path. And that's when we gave the survey. I think it was at our social emotional well-being committee to see what parents thought, to see what um our administrators thought, to see what teachers thought. And it was going to be a hard hill to climb when you're the only one because then it would felt like we were being punitive and the only one. I think when the law was passed, there's power in numbers because even some of our students have said, "Yeah, you know, it's not big a deal. It's everybody. All the schools are doing it." It's like it's there's there is power in that. And to have told our parents in Pennsylvania a year ago, even though we may have thought

051it was best, but we weren't going to have the parent support to be the only district, not only probably in Ohio, but northwest Ohio to say, "Yeah, no cell phones." That would not have bowed well for our parents in our community. And I would not want to alienate our parents and our students in our community to that degree. >> I totally agree, but that is cell phones. Again, we don't know what other communities are doing with other electronic devices. That is true. We have not exported that. So I >> I do have a meeting on Thursday with my peer group of superintendent. So I do have that meeting and I will ask >> also is it is it the intent of and I and I think I is it the intent that this policy is

052going to require smartwatches in the locker because this just says cell phones in the locker. It doesn't say all PCDs in a locker. The one I have Show me. Tell me where it says that. I don't think it would require any existing policy. >> So if we don't include the smartwatch carve out, there's still nothing in here that says smartwatch has to be in a locker. >> I need to find my original back. It just says it just says the big change going to have going to have policy to non cell phones have >> I get that. >> Yeah, that was a big change in my opinion. >> I I accept that with regard to cell phones. Absolutely. >> I was going to say cuz I didn't read the word of >> I know Kim

053you went in and changed one but it was the final mly one but it was the one before that where I need to change but you just did some editing. um >> where it says yeah the last one that was accepted but that's not the reason we know I have to go back. >> That's fine. I mean, it's not in here. >> Yeah. >> That she thought was in here and I didn't >> Well, but I didn't want I mean, my first thought was, well, it doesn't say smart watches and lockers. I'm going to let them go. But I both his high school handbooks have that happening and I'm like, well, where's this coming from? I I think they have to be clear as a board. That's why I kind of want to high school.

054>> I think so. >> Handbooks right now. >> Casey, is it in your >> Sorry, I we have sidebar. I didn't follow >> it. is if your hand that smart watches and cell phones are in the locker only students are prohibited. You're not even top. >> That's true. That's true. >> So So you're saying it's indoor use. >> Well, it says smart watches are considered and they use the term which is >> different. But but it it is it says in the beginning it would during the instructional day from the first bell to last bell dismissal bell all cell phones are be to be silenced and secured in the students lock but then at the end of the offenses it says earpods Apple watches fits other smart watches are considered to be ED. So even

055though it states that are considered to be electronic devices, it doesn't say like the cell phones, they need to be in a locker. >> I also >> So that is a different line, but it's not saying to be in a locker. >> But isn't the smartwatch and the definition of a PC? >> That's the That's why we >> No, but smart watches are smartwatch. That's a whole another level right now. But I do know That's why we didn't I had it in there. If I made the face respect, but I think that was in the paragraph that I had all the definitions listed and you said it was >> my recommendation and that was before. >> Yes. My recommendation was to not define it and let it stand for itself. >> But then obviously >>

056Yeah. I mean definitely we have to go back and also amend the bylaw to change that. >> So let me pull up the bylaw. But but this policy still says it doesn't say P. This says PDS policy. >> Notice at all times during the instructional day except as provided hearing, students shall store their cell phone silence in their lockers. There's no other command about lockers anywhere in this >> includes computers, e- readers, smartphones, games. This policy doesn't say PCBs and lockers. It says cell phones and lockers. So I don't even think this policy does what BCD certifies other than cell phones. They shall be prohibited during the instructional day. said use what you're saying, but then what you're suggesting is smart watches then are not in lockers, but they're available during lunch in the hallways.

057>> I mean, I was I know you were trying to find a middle. I I I just added smart watches because I I wanted to make it clear that smart watches could be worn to the whole lunch use in the lunchroom. I don't even care about that. If you want to prohibit use in the lunchroom, I'm fine with that, too. Other than can they use it to tell the time? And >> and this paragraph >> in paragraph E, it actually says any such device must be silence is stored out of sight during classes. It does not say blockers, but it does say silence and stored out of sight >> for letter cellular data and or Bluetooth. >> I use that language and and that mimic the language in the current policy silent. That's what they

058are supposed to be using now. It's like they're silenced now. But we went silenced and in lockers for P for cell phones and I think that's where the conversation went with cell phones and smartwatches should be in lockers. So are we agreeable? What I'm hearing right now just to capture this right now what I'm hearing is to cut to the chase. We have three board members that feel uncomfortable with governing smart watches being off and in lockers. Even though this policy isn't clearly suggesting that, but that's what I'm hearing. I Yeah, I and even though for the record I'm sorry, go ahead. >> No, it's okay. I Yes. To answer your question, I would prefer that smart watches can be worn and not used for a personal communication device. And if they are found, what

059I hear you saying is if the student is found, then that smartwatch will then be confiscated like other PCDs and then the child will lose that privilege. I believe that that as with anything I think MacBooks if a per child or student is found to be violating this and they lose the privilege of of possessing those items I think would be completely valid. >> Am I allowed to ask questions that are >> that's why they're here. >> Dr. Benz, Mr. Clarkson. Um, the spell. >> Mhm. He There you go. >> I was hiding. >> I see. Right. Share with us your uh what you've observed this week with your students with smart watches, um, tablets and even with your educators. This is has there been this struggle with watches? Have you seen a use of

060watches or a concern? I know what I saw, but I wasn't there all day. We need to hear from you just like we heard previously, but I want to hear from our junior high and high school principles. And I think Tim, you have something even from Mark. >> I would say candidly, I haven't seen the smart watches become an issue. Um, I haven't clearly defined I think as well as Northw has about the iPads. I was sort of waiting for this meeting. I was probably a meeting behind on that. Um, I think our stance in the previous meeting was more based on what I'd heard from teachers that they would prefer it if it was black and white about I'd say cell phones is one. I I actually think the teachers would say a nonschool

061issue device of any kind is probably number two and then the smart watches is probably number three in terms of because we can't track it with GoG Guardian. So the halves versus the have nots, if you will, buy a device that's not a Chromebook. They can open it and do kind of things unmonitored and that's become a classroom distraction. Again, you're you're asking me on 4 days and I noticed that. No, I can tell you the atmosphere has been different. I haven't we've collected more cell phones it sounds like than Northu has, but um on a daily basis, but they're just not out. I don't see the same distractions. Haven't heard from teachers. But to cut to the point of this argument, I would say I haven't seen smart watches be an issue. I I'm

062just trying to stand up for the staff to say this was their request and this is what we believe makes it the simplest is if it's black and white and in the locker and I'll let others answer from the junior perspect I can chime in from Mark. I know you couldn't be here but students have not been compliant keeping cell phones secured in lockers. very few instances that required confiscation and overall compliance has been consistent and manageable. He did talk about smartwatches not presenting a concern. Uh students have not been using them in disruptive or inappropriate ways. However, they've noticed an increase of use of iPads and tablets. While these devices are not directly covered by the new law, they are being used with growing frequency at least in last week and that's going to

063warrant some discussion moving forward. Uh, at Timberstone, it's been a non-issue over these five days. I last time I checked, um, I don't know if anything happened on Friday or today, but we had confiscated one smartwatch total since we started school. Um, and that was because a student was using it, not because they were wearing it. So, in the absence of clear guidance from um from policy, uh we began with cell phones off and in your locker. Um and then continued with our standard approach to other devices. Um the earbuds, uh you can't have them in. You can only use them if they're part of a class activity in uh approved by a teacher. and we take we take them if you have them in because we know that you have them in because you

064have a cell phone on you. It's the only reason to have it in. Um, smart watches, you're wearing it, that's fine. We see you using it. We'll confiscate it. That was the approach that we've had for years now. Um, and we confiscated our share of cell phones on a regular basis in years previous to this, but we haven't confiscated a single cell phone or only one smartwatch um, in that time. And it's not been a struggle. It's not been an issue. Nobody in our building, student or teacher, is talking about it. Um, quite frankly, um, we've had a really, really good week with engaged kids. Um, it's been pretty fantastic. And this is the honeymoon period of any year. I don't know if that has anything to do with um the new cell phone policy

065directly, but my gut is that they took that seriously and that has had a positive impact on our building. Um regarding what what Dr. Vince has said, um I I do agree with the issue of the policing difficulty. It's hard for us to know whether or not a student is using a smartwatch that is Bluetooth or cellular enabled unless we investigate. And so my reality is sometimes being the only adult managing a lunch of 200 kids and doing a whole bunch of things including managing lines, watching the clock to get recess, doing announcements, doing clean checks with students and having to take time to investigate a student who is going to present a conflict to me saying no, this is not and I have to figure it out and I don't know their watch. um

066seems to me to be a little bit of a challenge. So the clarity that he's talking about helps me because I can just say, "Hey, you're using your smartwatch. You have to give it over." And that's why we've been approaching it in that way. I haven't seen students using smartwatches um to to check steps. I don't I don't mean to offend anybody. I haven't seen that behavior. Um, so we've just approached smart watches in that way and it's worked for us and we've confiscated very very few smart watches. I can probably count fewer than five instances that I'm aware of of the confiscation of a smartwatch and probably three of them were from the same student. Um, so it's not happened very often um in our building. >> Thank you. Um, for us, I I

067would say the same. We actually switched at the request of our teachers a year ago to say instead of off and out of sight, can we have it locked in your locker uh during the day? And so that it's literally been no change for our >> smartwatches. >> Phones. Okay. Sorry. Okay. >> Um I we have not had any issue this year with smart watches. I had one student that I can think of last year who I saw um must have had Bluetooth capability could because was playing on his uh smartwatch at the end of the school year uh in lunch. Aside from that, I haven't I don't want to assume, but I think most people most of the kids who have a smartwatch, it is accessible when their phone is within reach and they

068know that the phone has to be locked in their locker. So, even just to have it on their person, and this is how I explain it, like even if you're not using it and it's in your supply bag, you're violating the rule. The rule is it's supposed to be locked in your locker. So, they just don't try it. Now toward the end of the year, they did get a little bit more I don't know, >> daring. >> Yeah, more daring is a great word. Um, but it they they know that just to have it on them, they're not supposed to. And so it stays in their watch, which then ultimately again, aside from that one student, makes a smartwatch just a watch. Um, I haven't from our staff side of things, I haven't had a

069a strong I've had the request about like what are we doing about smart watches, but they haven't said to me I feel strongly one way or the other. They very very much love that the cell phones have to be locked in that locker that there was just like no gray area about that. Yeah, I would only add, not a whole lot to add, but just that it hasn't been the huge departure at the junior high level that it has been at the high school because it's essentially what we've been doing. And as Kim's describing how smart watches have been used, that's basically how we've treated it with our students last few years where most of them aren't abusing it, but if we do see one, hey, you know, you can use as a watch, but

070you can't use it as anything beyond that. Um, I would say that what we've seen over the last year or so as we've kind of revisited all this stuff, you know, at different levels around the district, um, of what kids can do and can't do with their PCDs and their cell phones is at least at the junior high level, they comply with what our directives are and they seem to take it pretty seriously. I've been impressed with that, whatever changes we've made. And I would just say from our staff standpoint, from like the classroom level, they love black and white and they're loving House Bill 96 at this point. So, um I think they view that as support. So, um from our standpoint, it's not a huge change no matter what we do and what

071we have done, but uh I think the staff does appreciate feeling like um hey, we're here to do school. So, >> thank you. grab people to say something. >> I don't know. I just I kind of feel like with the smartwatches, they either need to be in the locker room or not have any rules. I think to say you can wear a smartwatch, but you can't use it. The kids doing this. They teach me, "Hey, what are you doing?" You're texting all night. I'm checking my steps. I mean, now you're now you're I just I don't I can just see it being a possible release myself. Is that I mean, now I think I feel like you're putting teachers in an awkward position. A kid's doing this. Hey, you're using it. Well, no, I'm not

072going to check my steps or I'm looking at my heart rate. I'm not texting. Like what do you >> And what would be wrong with that then? >> With what? >> With with the kid checking their heart rate and their stats. >> But we've just heard that there have been very little issues. So I'm just curious why would that be an issue? >> No, I'm saying you're I could see it getting to a position where a teacher has to determine are you texting or are you not texting? Are you doing something else that you can't do? >> I I don't They can't be as soon as as soon as they use it as a distraction. It's a distraction. If they're if they're checking their steps in the middle of a lesson, >> that's a distraction.

073>> It's not appropriate >> whether they're Bluetooth >> whether whether it's on or not. >> No, I agree with that. >> And according to this policy, they're actually supposed to be put away during class. So if somebody's using it during class, whether they're checking their steps or not, they're violating the policy. I think there the school of thought was to summarize because we've been going through this for many iterations. >> They're saying now you guys are dealing with a bunch of schools. Well, we talk about it a lot. But I also think and I think what I've heard even before it's easier to start off with something especially when you work with students to start off more strict and then to pull back when you're trying to manage 300 700 1300 kids in a building.

074As a former elementary principal, middle school teacher, it was much harder to start off saying this is what we're not doing. And then when you show that you are able, they then maybe I'll pull back and maybe we can figure out where this is going. However, I also am hearing we've been in school 4 days. Today was number five. And what I am going to do regardless to where we end up tonight with the board, whatever policy goes through, what we will do is we will be closely closely monitoring what is going on in our buildings with PCDs, albeit tablets, personal computers, watches, Chromebooks, Google docs with as text documents if we're seeing an influx because that's where the rubber meets the road with data. Um, I try to make informed decisions based on data.

075And right now, I may have my personal belief in advocacy, but I work at the pleasure of the board. But if we, the good thing about policy is that it can be revised based on what we see as a need in our district. And if we see that this is a different direction or that kids have come up with another way of outsmarting us older adults which they always find a way it seems then we can revisit the policy but at this juncture even though it's limited and I think someone said honeymoon period it is day five and I don't want to say that this is going to be like this all year because my question would be like you said Alex if the bugs are in the phone is on and that's a violation.

076The phone is on their person and it shouldn't be. So, not only should the buds earbuds be taken, the phone should be taken off. So, >> is that agreed? >> Yeah, that's Yeah, that's been a telltale sign so far. >> Yeah. So, as far as putting I mean, we have a policy on the table right now and obviously it's not I think it still has flaws in that if if it's approved as recommended. It doesn't say anything about putting things in locks. >> I would like to and it's unclear on the Chromebook used to the changes I've made. >> What do you mean I'm clear about the Chromebook? just that you can use them but you are some personal devices or >> personal computers whatever >> I think the tablets are the the next big

077problem >> I think by definition though it says tablets >> are you talking about in the definitions of PCs tablets are in there and are considered a personal computer or a type I had to Google that >> right so the use of personal Chromebooks and other laptop computers Look district issued or privilege that >> you could put >> or iPad >> or or tablets. Yeah. And I think that's in America. >> It's not in this policy, but it's in the bylaw, but it's not in this. >> You talking about where policy >> the bylaws does say tablet. >> Correct. >> It does as an example. as examples include >> but I I've spoken to several teachers who have said that last year the tablets were they got out of control but as the cell phones

078got as the crackdown on cell phones got more intense and that the kids started bringing tablets and iPads and I think that that's what we have to head off the path I understand we're still trying to do with the cell phone thing or the smartwatch So >> much more concerned about making sure that they can't >> I think this policy would ban the use of tablets unless they're being used in lie of the Chromebook and I don't know if that is a possibility. Um >> they don't have the same power. I mean if you want to you want to books have their limitations that iPads in a lot of ways so far >> but I think it covers it because it says if it becomes a distraction which is something that we've been talking about

079later they can they can say you can't use it for the privilege of being able to use it. So in letter F originally it said the use of personal Chromebooks and other laptop computers in l of district issued Chromebooks how is a privilege but may be forfeited if the personal device creates a distraction disruption or otherwise interferes with the educational environment. So if I bring in my iPad and I start doing things on my iPad, >> it's the iPad is basically a phone. It's a bigger, >> right? >> It's not a laptop or a computer. So I Google >> get rid of tablets. I you want to bring an iMac, you want to bring your own Chromebook, but you're not bringing an iPad Air or an iPad Air. Like no, >> because it's a phone

080but bigger. That's true. And and this doesn't say tablet in F. So I was under the impression and maybe I'm wrong. I'm looking at I was under the impression a tablet is a personal computer. My iPad is a personal computer. When you look at a definition of what a tablet is, it is a personal computer. I don't know if we need to specify a tablet as being other than a personal computer. Am I right or wrong? I'm open to education. >> I I think it's more >> and I try to legislate technology. >> I don't know if people are people using iPads instead of Chromebooks, actual iPads. Okay. So, >> they're buying them now because it's the workound and that's what I needed. I was kind of waiting for this meeting for the clear cut.

081answer of what I should be doing. But I agree with Dan. I think this is going to be the growing thing. >> It's It's a way to Yeah. They're not using it to take notes in class. They're using it to go around the room at lunch. That's That's what >> Well, and and worse than lunch. They're using it to go around. I I'm looking productive. >> Yeah. But because I'm on an iPad with >> the keyboard administrator, I'm going to tab over to >> we we've actually in um in providing approval for students to use personal devices in a Chromebook. We've just said no tablets. >> We have. So, if the student says, "I've got a MacBook." I would say, "Okay, but here are the rules and I'm telling all your teachers, you have this

082under these rules, and if it becomes a distraction, then we're going to remove your um approval." But if they say, "I've got this tablet." I said, "No, can't do it." That I don't consider that to be the same as a Chromebook or the same as a MacBook. So, we haven't I think I saw one student in my 5 years at Timberstone that had a tablet and was using it um in the lunchroom to watch videos. >> You have an approval process for private devices? I don't think all the schools do that. >> Yeah. I told my uh teachers that if they see a student using a personal device, they need to have a meeting with them in contact with parents because we have the GoG Guardian issue where um Go. So, GoG Guardian is um

083you know, not just a internet filter, but a way that teachers can actually see the screens of their students. And that happens because it's accountbased. So, when you log into a Chromebook, you're logged into your school account. you can't log in in any other account for that school um Chromebook. So, automatically every school Chromebook is visible to a teacher. They can see exactly what you're doing. So, if they're if if they're having a chat on a Google doc, you can see it. You can see everything that's happening. And so, the students that have the MacBook, I don't necessarily want to tell them no, but I want to say this is the problem I have. This is the problem your teachers are going to have. You have a responsibility here. And if we see you abusing

084that responsibility, then then you cannot bring your MacBook any. So, you're saying MacBook, but not a personal owned Chromebook? >> No, it's it covers Mac. It covers personal Chromebooks, too. It's just personal Chromebooks and uh laptop PCs are very infrequent. It's usually MacBooks that they're bringing. >> But still, I don't get a ton of those. >> My kids have personal Chromebooks, but there was never any kind of a process to be able to use them, you know, separate from the school. I think they log in they can log into their personal Chromebook with their school account. >> Yeah. >> So that's how >> there's there's a form you have to complete and that's um >> I don't and I don't know what it links to the there's a form you have to complete to not

085take the >> your Chromebook because there's like a fee that comes with >> Yeah, I looked at it today just trying to figure out how that worked and it basically you just opt out and then there's I there's a little click on Chromebook policy. So, I pulled that up and it just kind of said, >> you know, don't destroy it or you won't or you'll be stuck using the boat. >> You know, or you won't you won't get you have to pay $270 was pretty much all it said. I guess that's the market price of the current. >> Correct me if I'm wrong, Alex, but I think what you're doing is making sure students who are bringing their own device in a MacBook, you're making sure they log in using their school ID, not their

086own personal Gmail ID, so that Go Guardian can access their >> Yeah. I tell them they've got to be on Chrome and logged into Chrome through their school account. That way teachers have access to what they're doing through the learning, >> right? >> Cuz I do think the next thing that needs to be figured out is how to make sure that these when people are using personal laptops, they're using them appropriately. Computer services does keep a log of all students who have personal devices because when we get to testing season, we have to provide devices with the Ohio secure browser for them to be able to participate in testing. They can't do it from their personal device because of the insecurity that Alex is talking about. We I don't know if you guys agree, but

087we don't see the number of iPads for 1:1 replacements. What I have seen at Arbor Hills and the small number that grew last year that's been completely addressed by this measure has been um students might bring them in for like during lunch as you're talking about they might play Candy Crush Sager or they might play whatever and they try to grow that beyond there which our teachers have always been that's got to be in your locker that's a personal delight. So um this has completely at least quelled that so far. I I think they they do with the and keep track of them that way with the um asterisks. I think that um some kids have both. They'll have Yeah. >> a school district school issued device and also their own Chromebook or whatever and

088they'll use whichever one happens to be charged on any given day. >> Yeah. >> So, um I don't think you can necessarily count how many um kids are using their own devices by looking at how many the district doesn't issue. Um but I don't know how you do figure it out, >> right? >> Because you're saying kids have both. >> Yeah. >> Candly my kids have both, you know, for periods of time. >> True. >> But so this policy that's for us today doesn't call out tablets specifically as a definition of PCD. Does it say tablets? But when I'm looking from AI, checking out AI says, "No, an iPad is not generally considered a PC in the traditional sense. While it is a personal computer, the term PC is more commonly associated with a desktop

089or laptop." So, it's really a little bit of both. But no, this particular policy does not call out iPads specifically or tablets. If we say that people can only use students can only use laptops in lie of Chromebooks, district Chromebooks, would that exclude tablets? And is it really a variet tablets? Again, >> isn't a tablet defined as a PCD in the definitions? >> I mean, I think so. >> Well, I think a tablet is a PC. The question is are we allowing tablets to be used in lie of Chromebooks at which because there there's an exclusion for that like that's something historically we've allowed but we could say that only laptops could be used and make it clear that >> but that tablet laptops >> well it already says students may use personal Chromebooks and

090other laptop computers is what this proposal says. Yeah, it does. >> Doesn't say tablet, right? >> So, right now, this policy would not allow tablets. >> Well, >> the way I read it, >> this policy does not allow tablets to be used in place of school issued Chromebooks. But this policy doesn't say anything about tablets other than >> well, but they're defined as a PCB, >> but not right here because those that example has been deleted. So, we want to bring that example back. >> It's in it's in set me >> in that. So I know but don't we want somebody to come read this policy and know what part. >> So I had it in then I pulled it out. >> That's the only reason we have definition. So otherwise you're going to have

091to put that >> that definition should match this definition. You said she's put it in here. >> So it should match but it doesn't >> because I pulled it out because I was it was suggested that it >> because I wanted to amend the bylaw as well. That was my >> And then we did we tabled the bylaw. >> Well, we didn't but it was never before. Got that far. >> It was never before. >> Let me back up. I think the way it went was we were talking about the policy. We were talking about amending the bylaws as you were amending the policy. Then there was feedback about not amending the bylaws and just amending the policy. To be candid, we've been on all four corners of the block on this. I I've never

092advocated amend not amending the bylaw. The bylaw was always but I I I can I'm not going to die on that hill. Let's leave the bylaw the way it is. That makes things simpler and put but let's m have the definitions match. They don't match right now. And so if we're counting on that to require tablets to not be used, that's fine. Um, but that also goes back to nothing in here requires PCBs to be in lockers all day. So, we need to fix that if that's what your intent is. >> I mean, I because I don't see why it's fair that somebody or what not fair. I'm not trying to be fair. Is it logical that a student can be on a iPad at lunch and yes, I'm sure when you walk by they

093were doing something legitimate >> or when I walk and push the button like you said and click the tab but somebody can't be on their iPad or look on their smartwatch at their heart rate or whatever the time for gosh sakes is what I'm saying. So I we're going down this path of banning electronic devices when it just seems mindboggling. How do we plug in holes? And I get I'm glad cell phones are in lockers. I'm I'm I I'm all for that. I just don't I think we need to make this policy clear. What's our stance on iPads? It's not clear in this policy. Are tablets in lockers? are are watches in lockers or are they allowed to be on your wrist? And maybe this paragraph is not clear enough because it says yes, use

094during, you know, I don't want them texting during lunch because that doesn't seem fair. That's a walker. That's the have and have not. You can text your mom at lunch if you have a smartwatch. That doesn't seem fair. So, I want to make that clear. So, what I think I hear you saying, and I think we started here at one other point in time where this was just going to be about cell phones because we were trying to wrap into many other things. And it feels like we're going there again with cell phones and then we need to put in here about the tablets and then we need to put in here about the and this should be just cell phones that were tied to smart watches because our administrators saw them as similar devices.

095But now we're going down a path of let's do cell phones and then revisit our PCD policies when we're looking at tablets or going toward just laptops or no iPads because that's separate from cell phones. >> Well, I think our administrators I think our schools need to clear like what is our policy on can are iPads in lockers? Are are watches allowed on wrists? I think they need to know that. I think we need >> but I don't know if that should be in the cell phone alone policy or should we do another policy that looks at personal communication devices >> because I do believe there is another PCB policy is there not >> no this would replace these >> this would replace this cell phones and other personal communication devices this policy >> no

096one that deals with like >> electronic equipment >> that's the one I'm thinking about but that's kind of but does The electronic is not >> I have it right here that talks about accessing school issued devices and accounts with your it has doesn't address this policy covers it used to be just called electronic devices >> that's what the existing right now if you open this up it says electronic devices and so I think that has this policy has to give clear direction to the board to the buildings on what we want with tablets, watches, phones, all of it. And okay, so back to you. So you got to see and again you and I talked about this like and obviously you want to put forward the policy to the pass, but you got varying, you

097know, opinion. So, I think if you want us to move forward, if this is still the policy you're recommending, we can vote. If from what you've heard, you feel that you would like to recommend something different because you want to modify it to include iPads or tablets or whatever, then we can table this again while you work on the policy that you would like to recommend. If this is still the policy you'd like to recommend, then we will vote on it. >> Is it going to pass, but that's okay. >> It is okay because of that. That's all right. We would revisit it, you know, or stick with what we have. I I don't know. So, I mean, you're the one recommending it. So again, if you would like to um modify what you're putting

098forward, >> I'm going to have to. And I'll tell you where I am with this because when I'm listening to what our administrators say, when I'm listening to the conversations about iPads versus tablets, I'm hearing conversation about personal computers. I'm hearing conversations well beyond a cell phone policy that is just in the PCDs and the bylaws. and if the bylaw should be in the policy by definition, whatever. Um although I stand by my recommendation, I think hearing more information tonight, I would like to take one more swipe at this. >> Let me take that back. I don't want to take one more swipe of this, but I feel it's necessary to take one more swipe at this >> because it it needs to be right. It needs to be something that we can apply >>

099and it needs to be clear. And again for all those tuning in to this healthy dialogue, this is part of the process. this is the way it's supposed to work and I appreciate the feedback and we will go back to the board again and I will pull my drawing board again and I will work with our two policy representatives from the board which is Dan and Julie and we will devise something that hopefully we can all live with and apply equitably. >> Definitely. I don't think that tablets are permitted to be used during the school day under the policy the way it's proposed. >> That's why we're revisiting the entire >> So you're saying that's why because it's tablets and I'm hearing no tablets, but at the high school they do have tablets. >> I

100don't think the policy permits to use them, >> right? We don't want them. I'm saying I'm and I was sort of waiting for this meeting to go in there and say >> we never So you're saying that this policy and you've reviewed it doesn't permit tablets and you'd like us to pass this policy? >> Nope. If it has cell phones and lockers, no tablets and iPads and then my compromise would be the smartwatch thing. If that's what we're stuck on, we can live with that. >> Yeah, >> I agree. >> I You can live with it. >> Yeah. Yeah. I I It makes it clear. It makes it black and white and clearcut. that none of those things are allowed, but I I respect everyone's room. I get where everyone's coming from. I think it's

101a >> I think those are the two biggest cell phones out and then make it clearcut that you can't have your iPad in. >> So, if we added something on here that said no tablets, no iPads, those are in locker often in a locker. That's what you want. And I will I will say also like just to since the conversation is kind of going back and forth like I think from your perspective and I appreciate it, you don't want to to create a gray area where a teacher is confronting somebody and saying, "Oh, you're using it. I'm not using it." I think you underestimate how very little or overestimate how very little that happens. Whatever it is, it it that's not the thing. You can tell if a kid is is doing way too much

102on their phone. that that is there's no like argument back and forth. >> A kid who's doing this and then shutting it away. That's not the same thing. And I I just genuinely don't think that that is the thing that's occupying the bandwidth of our administrators or our teachers. The the phones and the tablets and the workaround of all of this like other opportunity that it they're kind of like seeking. That's the that's a bigger thing. >> So help me with this. We were I was informed that there was a parent that inquired that a student uses their iPad in I believe band to help them with their timing, right? Or to program prevention prevention. >> I think that would fall into the I believe there was some PCs used by Here we go. But

103what I'm saying is what is that going to look like? Is that only down the hall down? So when you see that iPad because if we're going down that road of no iPads and no tablets, the only time you should see that iPad and tablet is in the band room. Correct. >> I've had this discussion because I already discussed a a minor case with Mr. Zir and I said we're not going to see the phones on the way there. It's going to be part of this. It's programming apps. you know, the the programming class specifically programs apps on a phone. >> And I'm like, okay, we probably need some phones to test this. >> So, we have a policy where they're when I see them, they're going to put them in the caddy and they're

104just going to use them if they need a test >> and they know if we see them out or it becomes abused in the class, we're going to lose it. >> Our policy and this would be the administrator or the teacher >> and this would be a second exception to where we're not going to see in the hallway. We're not going to do it at lunch time. >> If it get gets abused in class, even it's it's dumb. They know this is this is an exception and it's a major exception. And I think >> so then we can't put in the policy necessarily that we are banning iPads and tablets. We are having them away for the purpose of it's saying for the purpose that they have administer or instructional purpose or administrative teacher approval.

105It's already in there. >> I think it's already there. It's in there. That's already there. Okay. I think >> but if it's already there then why did he find >> I think so tablets are a BCD that are banned but the policy gives them administration the ability to approve special yeah I think it's already there >> waiting to hear that they were banned >> yes he was waiting for pass this policy >> yes and I think I think it was I knew that was the intention I also thought there might be some fight about it and it felt like in the meeting it wasn't as clearcut and I I could come in tomorrow and say the board has said iPads are PCDs and I can stop it tomorrow and we're still 5 days in. >>

106I'm good at that. >> Do we all agree that like >> there's a difference between a tablet and a and a laptop because we're saying they can use they can use laptops. >> They can use laptops but not iPads. Yeah, >> I just didn't want to get >> one one step out in front of me, which I felt like I was doing until I was waiting for this >> ahead of us or behind us. >> I just didn't want to be >> I think that is very nice. >> And I heard you say that and I was sitting here going like I probably should have done it, but I was a little nervous to do it. So >> I think I I think what I'm hearing is that if we >> fix number one definitions

107to include the correct definition, if we fix that, >> which is just adding the site instead of the >> and frankly, you know, if we don't include the smartwatch language, nothing in this policy says smartwatches has to be in a locker. So what I'm hearing from administrators is >> it's not an issue right now. >> It's not an issue. And as long as it doesn't become it's not a distraction, kids can look at the time on their watch >> or check their heart rate, whatever. And >> and I think that the language in there says it can become a distraction. I think >> so. We don't even have to add to smartwatch. Are you going to disagree with that? Yeah, cuz you and I talked about this cuz I'm like, doesn't this policy because otherwise

108they wouldn't be allowed to use them at lunch and I would like somebody to be able to check their steps or whatever at lunch without getting or whatever use it as a I I do I I do think it needs to be in there with readers, but it's still limited to use outside of instructional time. >> Yeah, I get that. And Bluetooth still has to be off. So, there should be text. So if you add smart watches and e-readers and put that definition of tablet back in >> the policy can pass and that language of an app about >> smart smart watches e-readers can be said >> just what how I added that smartwatches and e-readers >> and I want to go back to the paragraph this is personal definition who was scrolling up there

109number one definition >> that we have to add that last sentence with the >> right because I had it in there and I took it the examples back in >> and F has to say students may use personal Chromebooks and other laptop computers in lie of district issued Chromebooks. >> We could even put in parentheses but not tablets. >> However, clearly Yeah, we could put not tablets. >> Yeah. >> And that's the letter F. >> Yes. >> However, this allowance is a privilege which may be forfeited. That's the so that if a student is using a MacBook improperly, we can deny them the privilege of and give them a Chromebook every day. >> I hope with capturing all of this, I will send a draft copy for our folks to look at. >> Well, do

110we can we can we pass a policy with that verbal kind of stuff or no? >> Yeah, we can do it as amended. >> We can as amended. >> As amended. >> I just want to make sure I amend it properly. >> Well, we got to be clear on what >> Let's do that now. >> Let's do it now. I'm not clear as clear if I feel it'll pop in. So I go and go to Can you do the go to the device? I don't know who's controlling the screen. >> Okay. >> It's a PDF. I can't. >> All right. So under number one, I'm putting back in the examples from the bylaw. I took out. >> So one, >> I'm just asking a question. Do we have to have the definition of the policy?

111I mean it's already defined in one zr out a >> take out one a just one I think just take out a I thought it would be to have it >> well this this is just to say >> that it's in two different places we decided to change all >> just strike We're striking one A. >> Yeah, keep keep number one. >> A1 A, Adam, that's what we're striking. >> Detroit. >> All right. >> Did you just say that? >> Scroll down, Adam. >> So, the next one is E. C. E. >> See, >> right there. >> Smart watches. And >> I have that one already. That's the one you guys corrected today. And then F becomes today. So you're saying e-readers and smart are e-readers may be used by junior high and high school

112students at lunch in between classes. Junior high. They don't do that. >> Don't do it in junior high. >> So we did not want to do that at junior high cuz they don't do that. High school kids can do is what you would be doing. >> No. No we're not. Susie just said students wear their watches all day long. But we don't but we don't want to use them. >> Well, okay. So then we have to talk about this word use. >> Exactly. >> So So okay, so e-readers without can be >> you gave me hold your >> So we need to just say smartwatches can be worn and used during the lunch. So that's another letter. >> Well, no, >> because you have letter E, smartwatches, and e-readers. >> Yeah, but we can't do

113that because >> So what are we doing with >> I don't know. I have to think because we don't want kids to be able to use them, >> right? >> But they still they still can't be used for communication. So what what use is left is being able to check your steps or whatever. If you I think what Alex had said before is and then we're expanding what they can do in junior high because they can't use >> but they're not being able to be used for communication regardless. >> C1 says use of PCDs shall be prohibited during the instructional day except set forth below. Use of PCDs doesn't stop a kid from wearing a smartwatch. It stops them from using a smartwatch. >> So then that just keeping it just like it is. >>

114What you've got right there supports what I'm doing right now. And if you add smartwatches to e, my only concern is now it's encouraging students to use smart watches during lunch. >> And we did, we specifically added e-readers because we didn't want to prohibit Kindles, >> right? >> And you know what? If you want to if you want to encourage kids to bring Kindles to lunch and read, I have no problem with that. I really don't. >> So that would be leaving it just as it is. So this back put smart watches in there where it was suggested. This goes back to where we were before, Tammy, which was this policy doesn't require it doesn't require smart watches to be put in the locker, but it also so a kid can wear it as long

115as it's put away. >> It it prohibits the use. >> What does that mean? >> Right. >> Well, >> not use for communication. Use like checking your time. Is that use? I'm using it to check the time. >> We have never we've never had an issue where we where we had a conflict with or discipline issue with a student to tap to their watch >> and and I and I we just want to match have the policy. >> We just want the policy to be able to >> Can we just somebody who's here from Mars, they know what they're allowed to do. >> Sure. >> Okay. So, we're good with with what that was, right? We're keeping it after. So I'm not I still want smart watches. >> Okay. Well, the smart watches right now

116that are not in theirs isn't even addressed. >> So it'll be as it always has been. >> Okay. Because adding smartwatches to the definition of what can't be used. >> That was a suggestion that was made earlier that we add smart watches and caress earlier today. There was a suggestion made for letter E that smart watches and e-readers and that whole letter E was put smart watches in front of letter E. >> Yes, that was what was suggested today. We don't put smart watches in that particular paragraph. I don't think you see smartwatch anywhere else unless it's referred to in the definition. >> We we met a couple weeks ago at South View, >> right? And the language that we agreed on in that meeting was smart smartwatches and e-readers are permissible. >> Yeah. Except

117>> nope. Are permissible as long as they do not create a distraction, disruption or other. And then we thought that's let's get rid of the e-readers and actually split it. >> And it said smartwatches may be worn as long as they don't become a distraction. And then we added path and said e-readers can be used at lunch. >> That's the language that we agreed on. >> Okay. And I'm going to push back on that. Dan, that's not the language we agreed on. The rest of the room said no to that. You were the only one in the room that wanted that and they all went along with it. But am I correct there? So you didn't agree to it. Well, everybody didn't want it except for you. So they went with what you wanted. So

118after we left the meeting, it went back to Dr. Mley. go forth what you are recommending and then this board will approve it or not approve it. So it's not fair to say that we all agree because I don't think there was any agreement in that. Thanks for the clarification. That would be my proposal then is we add be we added a new E say smart watches may be worn as long as they don't become a distraction disruption otherwise interfere with the educational >> an E can change is E going to stay what E >> we can do >> so you're just just add a G with that >> mine I'm struggling with my alphabet >> G and then H >> I just want to make sure H for the e-reader then >> I just

119want to make I understand E is going to stay as it is >> as e-reader >> the way the way right there is that was one of the issues that we talked about at the first we don't nobody an e-reader it's a Kindle right so >> that's so launches allow to be warm. >> Can we reread this before we vote on it? Make sure we're all clear exactly what we're adding >> once we get once she gets all the notes. >> Can we also So, is that is the policy clear enough for everybody that it allows that we require tablets cannot be used and they have to >> tablets and iPads cannot be used. that's going to be currently >> what is current to me like the most helpful thing for our build >> I

120think I think we seem to add and right >> that's what I'm saying >> f should be changed to say >> is permitted >> it should yeah add But then parentheses but not tabs. >> I think we I think we have all separate >> H. >> I think you can just do H tablets and iPad are not >> we need to say anything more than that >> or we just say silenced in a locker during the instructional school day. >> Yeah, >> we want they can bring them if they want to take them on the bus or whatever. But that they Okay, so hear me out. I'm sorry. >> I just heard that letter age was iPads and tablets are not permitted. Then I heard iPads and tablets are silenced and put away in lockers.

121Which way? What's what's the desire of the >> second one? >> Yeah, you said the same thing and he said the second one. >> Yeah, sure. >> I mean, they can't be used. >> I want to capture this correctly. >> You're right. I seem to be right. We need to be clear. They probably should be jumped in with the first section that talks about phones >> instead of putting them under the under the other PCDs. We should revise the whole thing so that there's one section that talks about phones and tablets >> and then another section that talks about >> we were trying to be >> Would you like me to make this editable? >> So I think it would just be us make this editable so we can put it in. >> I think

122we'll need to do this tonight. >> We just need to make this editable. No, I hear you. >> I can't do >> both and scratch it out. >> You're right. >> I appreciate your patience. >> Thank you, Adam. I need first. >> So, Adam, under definitions, you see number one, a delete that all that. Yep. Delete. >> Can I just delete it or do you want to actually see the strength? >> They're text. I didn't convert it to a word. >> Next. You got data. E. Oops. Right there. So, we're keeping that. Now, after F, it's probably not going to let you do it this way because you're not going to add space. >> But I can >> you can try. Yeah, >> I I can at least I can edit it later. >> Okay.

123Yeah, you're right. You can just add the words now. I almost think if you run it in the in the comment mode, that would be better. Is >> this a PDF for word? >> I'm about to make it a word document to make it easier. >> Oh, I was like, why don't text boxes? >> Oh, you have PDF unlock. >> Nice. What? >> PDFs. Oh, yeah. You get Adobe something. You can unlock PDFs. >> I'd like you convert PDF. >> Yeah. This is sweet. >> I know we got it. >> Okay. Second page. >> Letter F. >> Can you make the view a little larger? Thank you. >> Little smaller out. Let's do it. >> So, letter F. Can we add first of all a letter G that says iPads and tablets? >> You have

124to activate edit mode. >> iPads and tablet is right here. >> I don't think we ever in my >> Alex. >> It'll be done in two seconds and copy paste >> been talking about this for two hours. 10 more minutes ain't going to matter. >> Oh, no. for at least taking >> it was the last thing Cot >> sometimes you can work around that >> there Saturday. >> Wish I had a tablet. Maybe it would help. >> Um, what if I go to screen? Can I do that? >> Yeah. >> Make a copy. Make a copy. Go to Wi-Fi. Screen be on each other from the beds like you could >> you me I got it >> I don't know >> I got it if you don't mind. >> Okay. >> Are you saying you

125have the original word document? >> Yeah. and Google. >> Perfect. You can you can take that way. >> But I'm trying to I'm trying to get on screen, but it's just >> cuz I got to get off. >> Are you getting there? >> She take it again so she can try again. >> Yeah, she has to work a little harder. >> No, she she had a good increase for up February. You should be able to get on >> in the summer. I'm trying. I think she thinks she takes it again. It'll go up three points again. >> No networking working. >> Yeah, that's all right. All right. So connected that's me right connected. So connect and project to >> Thank you. So glad you're here. So it says I'm connected. >> You got to go

126to top right and say screen mirror. >> Top right. Two bars. >> Screen mirror. >> Got it. And then you got to enter that code >> 9922. >> you're present alone. Okay. So I'm taking out one egg there. >> So do we just so do we just want to call these cell phones and tablets and then that whole section applies to tablets as well? >> Yes. Well, let's make sure is that where the student may use a cell phone or tablet for a purpose documented. So, cell phones and tablets. Let's see what that looks like. I'll put it in a different color. >> So, I'm going to highlight this so we know we're looking at this. >> Are you going to say iPad? >> Probably put iPads. >> Including iPads. I think iPad tablet >>

127and you need to add that in that sentence. This section governs the use and possession of cell phones, tablets, iPads, number one. >> So I guess you have to add that after a cell phone every section. But right now, I'll take that off. So, we aren't touching letter E. We talked about the use of personal Chromebooks. >> So the my concern with this section is that it doesn't >> it just says it's a privilege but it doesn't say just add >> so that's in my little scrunch down. So after Chromebooks after the second Chromebook just say >> well the way I do it says permitted to use Chromebooks weird. Oh, I'm good. >> Computers for personal And then I added words. Students may use personal computers and Chromebooks or just >> I think right there

128and other laptop computers. That's good. District used to Chromebooks. Period. >> This is Are we good? >> Yes. >> All right. So, >> and then we got to add H for watches. Dan, did you suggest separating? >> That would be my suggestion. >> What was the language you read? >> OG. Sorry. >> Smart watches are smart watches may be worn >> as long as they do not create a distraction disruption or otherwise interfere with >> a distraction. >> I just You just copy paste it. Do we need to indicate that they >> they should be silenced off >> like we do readers. >> So additionally any um >> I think you can just copy that whole exception cell data. Why did we decide to put it in a separate one instead of just keeping it?

129>> Because we don't want them to use it. >> It's just it's like do we want to play games on it during lunch like >> or we I I don't know. >> I'm just trying to understand why we >> Yeah, that was the concern. >> Well, there's some concern about junior high that this doesn't have any grade restrictions in it. >> I understand. So, perhaps. >> So maybe you say in at junior high in high school maybe >> then just make it include it with e again. I mean it's the same thing. >> Well, we were really specifically trying to leave e-readers at home. So that even though I hear that no one uses a e-reader except me. Um >> no, I I don't understand why we're see >> Yeah. What? Why why can't we

130say the smartwatches and lubers? What's the problem there? >> I mean, >> you know what is the distraction to the education? >> I think that got into the used versus worn, >> right? We're saying they can be worn, but they're not really I mean, you can't be using them to do stuff on. And it says they can be used at lunch and in between classes as long as they don't and that would be >> letting junior high do more than they already can do. We'd be expanding that. the existing PCD language already takes care of what they might be doing with smart watches. >> So is that Tammy? What do you think of that? That >> so kids aren't going to be allowed to wear smart watches at all. >> They're not used. >> Do

131we take off? Okay. No, take off high school. >> Smart watches may be worn. >> I mean because what we're saying is smart watches can be worn. We're not saying they can be used. So, >> so it's this one and not used. >> What is what does one versus mean? >> I think the big concern is that currently at the elementary school level there if a kid walks in with any sort of I have a question. It's true. Kids can >> I made an analogy while we're sitting back here. It's like we don't let kids wear hoods, but we don't stop them from wearing hoodies, >> right? Can you guys are they wearing the Are they wearing >> I think it's I think it's like they use the hood they may pull it over as

132soon as they use the hood the hoodie then they're in trouble. >> Are they allowed to use put the hood on at lunch? >> No. >> Okay. Okay. Are are the are the are the the individual schools allowed to be more restrictive than the policy? So like if the policy says whatever it says, can Timberstone say no? >> No. >> So this isn't like a federal state local law thing. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Are we ready to vote? So, we're going to allow >> So, now kids in junior high are going to be allowed to wear smart watches. >> Well, they're allowed now. I mean, basically, what the revisions that you're making right now are clarifying and not >> Do they fall in line with what you're doing? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Does this

133capture what we want for >> Yeah. Go ahead. >> Does this capture accurately what we were discussing with iPads and tablets? cuz I heard tonight tablets and iPads cannot be used. I wrote it down. Someone said it. >> Okay. So, but as we I dropped it in, were you guys reading through that >> tablet and iPads locked in or off and in a locker? >> Silenced and in the locker in the locker >> unless they have permission of the building administrator and that will cover the music program. Yeah, I mean so tablets and iPads. >> Um well >> I I see the problem. The tablets and iPads are in a section that doesn't have any exceptions for administrators permitting it. The second >> No, I think they're still allowed to do it. It's it's under

134C. It's not under B. Yeah. Other than >> it says PCs may be used when approved by a building administrator under the section can't be approved by >> the law. >> Well, we can't we can't administer just I said I did approve this. I felt like it went just straight. >> He's going to need to be disciplined. I don't eat it. >> Well, as long as it's not January at your pool. >> Okay. >> Well, but it can be approved for health reasons. They're just like >> Yeah, we have some of those. Yeah, we discussed >> I think that's exactly what it is. It's designed by building cell phones, tablets, iPads, right? He was talking about cell comput. >> Well, but the so the law says no. >> The law says it it can be

135proof for medical reasons and in accordance with an IEP. Does it say anything? >> So the medical reasons or um an emergency management plan. >> Yeah. So I feel like that's not >> I mean that's as long as they know. Yeah. That that's what they can approve of. >> So it's letter number two. >> But that's already >> So I just added this sentence >> for number two. I think three. >> Yeah. Should I make that a cell phon? >> No, because the cell phone thing is already addressed. >> Got it under the A and B. >> Okay. >> I still don't know about this approval process, but we'll see what happens. >> Okay, that was taken from maybe. Yeah, I know the interactive thing. >> I'm I would just say amenure measure 6.4 for

136a motion with amendments as discussed. And I'll actually put this I'll go back and put this in the board doc as the as the exhibit so everyone knows that in a month from now they pull up the policy of what we approved. It's going to be this one with the correct changes. That's what >> to say include these changes. I'm going to share with you my modified um approval. >> Thank you all for being here. By the way, this was >> great. You want to second? Yes. >> I'll update. You're not asking, but I'll update handbooks to have on the next meeting since we have policy that they can follow now. We can update the handbooks based on this policy for the September 5th meeting. No, let's start tonight. >> I'm going to be watching

137my phone all night looking for it. >> Greg, >> yes. >> Dan, >> yes. >> Tammy, >> yes. >> Kim, >> yes. >> Thank you everyone. I really appreciate you guys being this is the process. Appreciate it. Appreciate your honesty. >> Appreciate you guys. >> I'm going to keep moving so we can send tax. Thanks, Josh. Uh I will recommend items 7.1 through 7.4 on a consent agenda basis. 71 license substitutes. 72 licensed retirements. Congratulations Kim Cuff, Dan Dubil, and Kuang. 73 is the license resignation. 74 license extra duty. >> I'll move for approval on a consent agenda basis. Item 7.1 through 724. >> Second. >> Tammy. >> Yes. >> Greg, >> yes. >> Dan, >> yes. >> Kim, >> yes. Yes. >> Yes. >> Thank you. I will recommend 8.1 through 8.3 an agenda

138basis. 8.1 classified hires. 8.2 classified resignation. 8.3 classified personal change. >> Move for approval on a consent agenda basis items 8.1 through 8.3. >> Second. >> Tim. >> Tammy. >> Yes. >> Greg. >> Yes. >> Julie. >> Yes. >> Kim. >> Yes. >> Dan. >> Yes. Thank you. I recommend items 9.1 through 9.5 on a consent agenda basis. 91 are supplemental positions for the 2526 school year. 9.2 not teaching pupil activity contracts for 2526. 9.3 athletic volunteers for 2526. Uh 94 are changes and resignations to supplemental positions for 2526 and 9.5 are stipens for 2526. Move for approval on a consent agenda basis items 9.1 through 9.5. >> Second. >> Uh Tammy, >> yes. >> Greg, >> yes. >> Kim, >> yes. >> Dan, Julie, >> yes. >> Thank you, Jack. >> Okay, board. Greg.

139>> Um, I forgot everything I was going to say, but real quick, we had a facilities committee meeting where we talked about the North View pool and there was some additional electrical upgrades that needed to be done. They found a little more but sounds like that's going to be very minimal. So >> yeah, >> better than expected. >> Yeah. So that's good news. Um I've had Sageard and Rec board meetings. Um there's Sageard's going to do a renovation of the concession stand at Centennial and a new maintenance building at Pay Center. Um I think that's all I had. Uh we had a foundation meeting on the 5th and most of it had to do with the North South game and the taste of Sylvania which has passed and a presentation dirty game since then has

140also passed. Um there is fundraising going on for a baseball softball meeting facility at Northview which will be 70 by 100 ft and >> $800 to $900,000 >> near the tennis court by the tennis courts. >> And Greg did the plans. I understand. >> That's all we got. Perfect. Kim, I didn't think >> um >> Swain Community Services, we're still waiting on an issue for the levy. Um issue number that is so we can they can start campaigning. Um they are looking for endorsements. So expect me to be um talking to you guys about that. Um they are in the child care realm. They have um opened up Marshall after school care. They're offering as an alternative to right at school at Hillview. They're have they're offering to bring cuz it's on the bus route

141have kids do after school at Hillview directly and right at school is all on board with that and they they worked through that. So it sounds like that Marshall that way if they can have siblings together if one sibling's in preschool, one sibling is at elementary, they can be together. I think they parents only have to pick up from one place cuz they thought there since it's up on the bus route. So, um and I guess that Marshall is at capacity. They're doing well and inspection and all is good. So, that's that first. Um, we had a policy meeting about policies. I would like to, the reason why I'm bringing it up is I'd like to apologize to South the situation. I I you correct me. Um, and I missed the Southern Southern Prevention Alliance

142uh meeting uh because my daughters were performing on the hill at the Northview band performance and had a great night on Friday. >> Okay, so what I have is I think Sammy covered the foundation pretty well. Did get a chance to go to the Strand Strand um playground. It was fantastic. The opening of the um inclusive playground. You don't I mean it was way more than I expected to. So if you haven't had a chance to go over there, I really suggest going back to take a look at that playground cuz it is seriously amazing. It's amazing. Like I mean I've heard about it. I've seen plans, but seeing it in person was really hard to surprise that was really surprising. Civilian Prevention Alliance. Um, none of you probably remember this, but they used to

143do the um 24-hour relay way back, right? You do. Okay. Thank you guys. Um, they're they're trying to bring it back. So, it'll be at Timberstone. It won't be a 24-hour, but it'll be probably like a 12-hour relay. It'll be at Timber Stone on May 9th and 26. and they are doing a proper prevention as a fundraiser um which is going to be April 18th and the honorary co-chairs of D and Brad Reer. It's going to be over at St. Joe's and tickets are um going to be on sale soon participation for items. >> Okay. He knows every exception of that and