001bus is 133,000. >> What were they less than >> so the original? >> Yeah, >> but we were able to get a discount. >> They were brand new. They weren't They weren't used buses. They had purchased. >> Yeah, I remember that. For some reason, I 133 that sounded cheaper >> than I remember. >> And they're already they're already in use, right? >> Yeah. I saw them at the middle school. >> Our superintendent meeting so hard to surplus the other two. for one sold for 3,000 sold for 6000 >> starter car. >> Yes. >> Oh, perfect. Yeah. Vacation >> probably become like a schooly camper or something. >> My final one, Jenna, if I could, I cost to buy the world's finest chocolate. >> Well, it is the world's finest, so I bet it's expensive. >>
002No, but I didn't get to buy any. >> Is that the middle? >> Give me your address, Mr. Blackabe and you will get hit up every time for all time and eternity. >> Yes, because is going to have chocolates I think at some soon. >> That was probably okay. Save your money because sells the $2 chocolate. So, >> but they're the original size. >> No, no, no. Don't go pick them up yourself. buy them from your fellow board children. >> Alina just >> I got somebody talking about rules and responsibilities. >> So that shouldn't be on the record. >> Who's next question? Does anybody else have >> All right. >> There was just one thing I noticed on the coaches to approve. I think one of them was listed as a middle school coach and
003it should have been a high school. I don't know if that matters, but because it was like a more expensive unless you need three tennis coaches and one of them gets paid significantly more. It looked like a high school salary. >> I've meant to email you. Sorry. It's been a long >> Okay, we'll take It's been a long spring break, huh, Jenna? >> I know. What day is it? What month is it? What? >> Listed as though I'm not saying >> Yeah, I think that Stuart Hegel is that a high school. It's assistant boys girls tennis coaching. 3760. >> Yeah. And it's significantly higher than the middle school salary. It looks like a high school salary to me. >> That's what I'm assuming. It says MS. I don't know how much it matters, but I
004just thought Okay. Yeah. I just didn't know how it has to be. >> Oh, I'm going to run back to the glasses. Since they're used, the depreciation time frame, >> they're not used. >> They're not. >> They're brand new. They just had a surplus. So, they're >> So, does depreciation start at 2025 year or does it start when we purchase them? >> That saves in case they change the rules. Um, anybody have anything on classified appreciation month? Questions about what we'll be doing. >> Okay. >> I'm assuming we'll just be standing up there. >> Oh. >> Yes. >> Like we're doing something. Yes. Down there. Got it. I'm like I'm assuming we're just doing our Was I supposed to bake cookies? Like what was I supposed to do? >> Yes. Okay. Uh the ask report
005to do that. >> It's really exciting. >> We're lucky we get to do that every year. >> Why I ask for certain we'll do board bits and then uh fin report. Anybody have any questions for Deb? Anybody have any questions? >> Sorry, Deon always takes up the most pages. Anyways, >> there >> uh policies. Questions on policy. Even though it was taken off of the agenda, can I ask a question about curriculum? >> So, so how does it all like how does it all work? >> Sure. >> What happens when it comes to us, I guess? >> So, um, we have a policy Annabelle, you fill in where I'm missing. Um, so, uh, the state sends us a schedule. So, it'll say like give the year and it'll say this year like one year you're
006adopting math curriculum and then the next you're adopting language arts curriculum. The next year it might be health and it's like we said it's cyclical. So there's seven it's a sevenyear cycle and then what happens is is that the state comes up with a list of approved curriculums that we get to choose from. And then if we don't if we decide none of those work for us and we have to do we can do an independent adoption of something really And and so um one of the the kind of hangups that and this is legislation that just passed I think last year was that and I didn't actually even know this but in order for vendors to be on the adoption list they had to pay OD a pretty significant fee which I don't think
007any of us understood that because we were like why don't we have more to choose from. It was like I want I want to say it was like a $40,000 fee. It was like pretty hefty although >> to submit your curriculum to OD >> to be considered essentially. >> Exactly. And so um so they send out the lists and then they we do what's called a caravan. And so we usually house that host that through the ESD. So like if you walked in ESD boardroom there's books all over um Because what happens is each district um has an adoption has a committee that we put together. So right now it's social studies. So obviously we have representatives from social studies at the elementary, middle and high school level and then they work with usually one
008of our coaches or a district level administrator and they kind of bet that that and see which ones they like. In some cases, they do test teaching. They'll pilot one of the programs to see which ones that they like and they take turns meeting throughout the year and then they decide on what curriculum they want to adopt. What did I do? You covered it all. that equity lens on the cursor. So, and then so that'll make a recommendation to you guys. Um, sometimes it's one curriculum K12 and sometimes it's not. Sometimes we have elementary that like a specific curriculum, a specific vendor and we have secondary that likes a different vendor. And so just depends on what they want. >> We're looking at social studies >> and it's hard because you know social studies isn't
009even tested like at the elementary level. And we're and that doesn't even that's pretty bare bones. That doesn't even I don't even think that includes books because you know rarely do we use books anymore because all of the curriculum is online but now they've made the online so as well. >> So this starts at the beginning of this school year. They make a decision towards the end of the school year and it's implemented next school. >> Can we just not do it? >> Yes, you can. >> There is a process. >> Yeah, you can. >> It's not as much fun. reasoning on why you would adopt >> like during co they skipped adoptions we came back we're adopting something that have to adopt again in two years said we're not going to do that we
010just put it off the actual adoption very intensive. >> Okay. And nothing on the policy end. >> Okay. >> Well, if you see the first page and they give you a little packet of information in the first page called board briefing um our 207 reinvested bond and awesome grant. Um so I'm just going to take you I'm going to walk you through this document. It's pretty reader friendly. Um so the the opportunity that we we spoke about that we have is that um that our current bond expires in 2027. So the question that we the discussions that we have is that do we go out for a new bond to finish out Aken and some potential other um um projects in the district. So this is actually what's called a bond bridge and districts lots
011of districts have used that strategy before. So our 2010 bond debt which was originally passed in 10 was 18.5 million. It retires in 2027. The current cost that to taxpayers is about 82% 82 cents per thousand of assessed value. So, um, if the school board, so if we determine to go out for a bond again and we say we're going to go for the same amount, $18.5 million, because we have to have we have if we are eligible for the Austin grant, which is matching dollars, then we have to go for at least 12 12.25 million to get 12.25 million. So you have two options there, right? One is to say we're going to go for the full amount of the bond that we have now, which is 18.5 million, and that keeps the tax
012rate the same of what people are paying now. Or you could go jump down to 12.25 and that lower that would lower the tax rate significantly while still capturing the full state match of 12.25 million. So, just to be clear, the awesome grant is um was established maybe 10 years ago, right? Do you think it's gotten about 10 years ago? >> Probably. >> So, basically, um because school districts had a a difficult time across the state passing bonds, they established a fund that said if you can, it was to sort of encourage the communities to pass bonds because they would get matching dollars for those. And so Ontario is currently ranked number nine in the state on the list, which means we are eligible for a tier one match of 12.252. Um, and so again,
013if we pass that amount, we get that amount from the state. A good selling point, right? Because you go from, you know, you're only paying on 12 million, but we're going to get to for this. So um so the financial impact you can look um at the the little graph there. So you have option A and option B local bond amount 12 million state matching option B. So that's a tax reduction and then option B is a T tax neutral. And then if you go on to the to the next page that just shows you the total amount you get with those um impact on taxpayers. The first one is a tax cut of about 34%. Um the other one is no change which is basically the same as you're paying right now. And then
014what cost and these are not exact numbers. Gemini help. >> So why is the tax rate the same? >> Because you're you're already paying on an $18.5 million bond right now because of the bond that was passed in 2010. So if in 2027 if you didn't do anything then you would have a big savings. If you went for the same amount that if you went for $18.5 million again for a new bond and it passed, you'd be paying exactly what you're paying now. I guess what I meant was you pass the bond people in gre >> interest rate but >> it's very simp >> yeah this is just kind of the scenario this is sort of the basic scenario >> interest rates are kind of like borrow money on my own >> bill and so
0155% So they'll reassess it next year. Yes. And then look at the current year interest rate next year to project it. >> Y um so um tax benefits, how much would the 12.25 million um bond save the average homeowner? And it just talks about if the board chooses that that much, the 12.125, it would drop roughly from 82 to 54 cents per thousand of assessed value. Um, and then for a home of with $150,000 assessed value, the homeowner would see their annual tax bill drop by approximately $42. And so, you know, you just have to when you look at that, you kind of have to go, well, what's the pitch? You know, do we do you roll the dice and say we're going to get free $12 million and nothing changes in your household. But
016we're going to have $30 million to literally be finish out our schools and to make all of our schools safe. We're going to be able to do all of this maintenance stuff that's hard, roof and plumbing and all of those things and get it all done, which is a huge burden to be Right. Or so do you roll that dice or do you do you sell it by saying um we're asking you to only pass a 12.5 million bond. We're actually going to um you're going to pay less in taxes. So we're going to get we'll have $24 million total. >> What's what's the ranked number nth in the state? Is that basically a guarantee that we get it? How many did they get? >> That would mean that all nine in front of us
017would have to be going for a bond. But that's not how it works, >> right? Or have to pass. >> Yeah. >> So, it just depends on who in front of us is thinking about going out for a long. >> Did we get to number nine? Because it's been a while since we did one. How do you get to We've always ranked pretty high. There's um I think it's kind of complicated how they >> a matrix that they work from >> it's based off of poverty >> like needs and >> how long it's been since you passed one poverty in there's >> we were like number four at one time I >> know how many they were like >> I don't know um so one more do you you like apply for and then if
018the bond passes then it goes together. >> So talk about the timeline. I I think I'll be able to answer but we can come back to it. I think this helps. We'll tell. So basically what you do is you phase one is you um June 2026 to October um we applied for a grant and we got the TAP grant and on top of that, so there's two parts to that. We received money to do the wood structure, roofing structure um and we also received um money to do a long range piece of woods. >> So um but now it's like let's already get that piece done >> and so That was the first part of that. Um, we're meeting with that group next week next next Wednesday um to talk through that what that's going
019to look like. Um, this is a pretty short timeline to get that done. And when I say we're kind of working backward, we have to have everything submitted to OD by December. So, Um, you know, really what you want to do is have this to have them um basically take our old long range facilities plan that was done back in and then or before that and then really looking at I think Bob said he went through and said, "Well, we've done this, we've done this, we've done this, we've done this, right?" And some of those things were done, they'd hoped to have those done with bonds and we didn't pass bonds, but we did them in other ways. For example, the middle school um sixth grade building and things like that. So then it's really
020taking that and updating it from there because we did a facilities assessment uh back a year ago, year, a little over a year ago, back OD sent somebody in to do that across the whole state. So they take that assessment and then they should facilities to build a new facilities. So, we will consult with that group and then um we really would like to have that um long range plan um kind of done by October at the latest >> because >> October, November because we really well October I think is what end of end of September because We'd really like to have a month to be able to have some meetings, community meetings to share out and have people look at the plan and provide feedback to us on that because then we have to
021have a board vote for approval on that in November and submit it in December. So that's kind of basically what that what that all says. So we have to submit um submit that to the by December 15. But I So I'm gonna call and ask more questions about I think it kind of depends on looking at who those nine districts are ahead of us, but I think that they fund most of them. I think really I want to say that like it goes further on after us. >> There's enough money in there. >> Is it is everybody's max the 12.25 25 or is it dependent on your district size? >> It is dependent on Okay. Our district size. It used to be for us it used to be six million. >> Yeah. I remember some
022districts it was I think only three like a little small district like something. >> So we do all this work. We don't have to pass the bond. >> Correct. >> So again when you look engagement. You know, you have to decide what you're doing. You know, if you're going to go for the 125 or the $18.5 million grant, letting them know that we're ranked on the priority list and we're going to give you a 34% tax cut or on that additional money or we're going to keep them the same, but we're going to have 30 million to spend for our schools. So, um step. >> Yeah. >> Explain what we need. >> I mean, I don't know that we'll ever have this opportunity again where we'd be able to get $30 million payments >> and
023not change people's tax rates. >> Not Yeah. >> And a lot of it reduce our maintenance costs. We're going to say what's our cost without >> I mean the difference too is is that remember $18.5 million before back in 2010 built a whole middle school a whole science wing and a bunch of other stuff right >> doing that now >> and it cost us 12 million for the sixth grade building just that one week and it was pretty basic. It's >> 12. >> So yeah. So what I'm saying is is that that 30 million is does not go as far as it did, you know, 15 years ago for sure. So um but we certainly and and I think we also have to promote that we have done a lot of things in the district
024right already. done a lot of safety upgrades and offers remodels and we've added our sixth grade built back at the middle school move sixth grade back to the middle school and we've invested in our facilities but this could really finish us out like finish a out think we have to really um leverage heavily about the safety of See to me a lot of it is to communicate to the people how a lot of the districts are out of money and we've been very careful we have their money the problem over the last bonds that I've worked on people have no idea how much they're pay and I had a friend of mine he thought it was perundred not per thousand but I think if you ask the person what's your home value say this is
025based on that tell them because they won't figure out if it's 10% less >> is 150 the average home price in Ontario or was that just kind of an example an example? >> Yeah, I guess I'd be curious to know what >> No, that was just an example. >> But I mean it's probably >> I would think it's probably closer to like 275 or three >> in Ontario. See the other problem on the community too we've funding >> a lot of things about >> and I'll have I mean it's the library there's different >> I think it's just so easy to say we're not asking for any more money >> I think it's also what people don't realize is that the It's not just like handing money out for buildings. Like that's all on the
026district. They give you money for staff and they give, you know, and it's your job what you do with it. But >> and 80 85% of the money that we get goes to salary. >> Yeah. >> That it goes to Google. So the average is 300,000. >> Yeah. See, I was pretty close. 2753. >> So if you think about it, >> 15% of our income that we get state school fund and everything else >> is for everything else. >> 15% is for curriculum and um safety and athletics and all of the other stuff and facilities, right? And so we we are we are not funded for facilities in Oregon. The prisons are I'd be careful about the tax cut only because when you put the word cut. People are thinking like it's gonna be this
027huge cut. When you look at it, it's like a hundred bucks a year is like not even if it's 300,000 >> and you're paying it harder in the future >> to try to go back up again. Well, I just I don't like the word tax cut because people think like it's going to be a major impact and it's going to be so >> tiny in the whole scheme of things like >> maybe $10 a month. >> And you have to ask a question. Would you rather have that extra $100 >> a year or would you rather have your kids >> schooled to be have a hallway? >> Yeah. >> I mean, I think every single parent would say $100 to make sure that my kids are safe. Absolutely. >> Because we're not actually I mean,
028yes, it would be saving them money, but it's at the end of the day, we're all paying it anyway. >> They're not They don't have It's not in their pocket. >> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So when it's not in their pocket because I deal with people's finances, the easier that you just transition straight across, the better you'll be. >> So So that is this. That's this in a nutshell. I mean, I'm not saying these figures are exactly right. I was just trying to give you guys a scenario of what it could look like. And so really um we are as I said moving ahead with the long range facilities plan but um as a board you guys are going to have to make that decision soon pretty soon so that we can um >>
029after those >> yeah we have to make the decision by next December >> to because we have to submit. So, you'll have to vote on that and then we have to submit, >> but we we'll want it regardless, right? It's just the amount of the bond that we're accept. >> Okay. >> Um, so if you're So, this says the system will recognize you as eligible for the match. So, does that mean you as long as everything's filled out on the grant application, you're eligible for it? It's not like a Okay. >> So, you probably wouldn't be denied. Okay. >> Okay. And then from there, I don't know what the what's what's the timeline look like to get a bond ballot. >> So, um there are some deadlines and I didn't include that here, but I
030will do that out to you guys. Um do you have to start the process for December? >> Um be on the May. >> It's a May ballot, right? >> It's the May ballot. >> March. I haven't. >> We're just discussing that. Like the timeline is March for the May ballot >> because we would look at a May the May election, right? So a year from now, right? May election and then we'll put together a timeline for when that needs to happen as well. So you're saying we need to wait for the long range facilities plan. Do we haveate for that? >> That's the next thing. >> You guys can I mean you guys can say, "Yeah, we're gonna go for a bond right now, so get that stuff done and we'll go." or you can
031get to the site at any time. But >> so the vendor working with the assessment, they can't start till >> we're hoping they start right away. >> So they could have the information to us by summer. >> Probably no September or September. We may have to go to >> So, so we could feasibly say we're going to We don't like that. We're going to go with somebody that can get this done by August. >> Our decision can happen in August. >> Your Yeah. Your decision to happen. >> So, we could literally say like we want to go for the bond now, but then also wait for the long range facilities plan to say which bond or could we just say we want the bigger bang for our buck? >> You guys can determine that right
032now. You guys can determine if you are what you want, which one of these options >> or we can just say we want a bond. >> We want a bond and we're going to go for the 18 and a half million now. And then but you still eventually what you have to vote on is the long range facilities plan >> and the the grant application go to to go to OD and that has to be done by November. all the other like prep work and stuff could be done without our >> and you're you're not I don't know that you're doing a formal vote to say we're gonna right now to go for a bond, but you're in agreement. >> We're in agreement. >> What does the what does that grant stand for? OC >>
033whatever could sound like awesome when you >> Oregon State. >> No. Oh, it's written in OC. Thank you. Okay. Thanks, Google. That's awesome. >> Yeah, that's why we left it. >> It is. It has to get done. >> Well, I mean, and it would be responsible to do anyways, right? >> But we're just trying to say like if we want to move forward with the bond, then you can like really actually knowing that we're going to move forward with that. >> The long range plan shows the akin >> is that included in there or is it just >> the old long range plan? >> Yes. Like I said, Bob and I talked today, as we get prepared to meet with him next week, he's going to the old plan and kind of crossing things out
034like we've done this, we've done this, we've done this. >> They go they like look at all our facilities and they rank >> like which roof is going to collapse first. That's your priority. >> I I like that idea. I think based off the assessment Thanks, Chris. Assessment of that And obviously that's also changed because our structure of schools changed. And again, we've done some of those upgrades already and offices. One more question. Do you d do we do you draft the long range facilities plan or somebody on >> Okay. So it's a community partner stakeholders >> could have been >> even. >> Okay. So you take the assessment and you create the long race facility. >> They are creating the plan for us and then we're bringing it back to a group. Okay. >>
035To look over, to make suggestions, >> and to add to give feedback on. >> Okay. I just didn't know if we like had somebody else do that for us or if that was a >> internally. That's what they're going to do. They're going to merge the plan, come out with a like a draft. Take it. Come over. >> Okay. survey. >> Pretty good. Okay, >> more questions. >> We'll we'll keep providing you updates. >> We will move on to board rules and responsibilities. >> Okay. Well, to get through as much of this as I can in 20 minutes. So, in front of you, do it a little different since we're limited on time. You have a school board governance, the master. So, we're just gonna walk through it. I'm going to read you the question
036once you answer it. Talk about it. So, I decided to do it this way kind of as a free test and then I've given you some other information. So starts off easy. Number one, which statement best defines the primary governance role of the school board? Is it managing day-to-day operations and teacher assignments? Is it setting the district's strategic vision and creating policies to align that vision, directly negotiating individual contracts, every non unionized staff member, or serving as the final judge for all students? I think we should answer these quietly. >> It's B. >> It is. Who is the only employee that the school board typically hires to provide value? >> Principal. >> The principal. >> The lead union representative. the superintendent or the district >> in the context of fiscal responsibes. is adopting the annual
037budget which is coming up. >> Okay. What is the legal standard of care for a school board member regarding the district's financial investments? Is it a the pro person rule acting with care, skill, and diligence that a sensible person? Is it B high growth rule seeking the maximum possible return regardless of risk? Is it C the fair rule letting the decide everything without any board oversight or is it D the local that's the only businesses located it is a all right here's some scenarios a group of parents demands the immediate remote to remove the book immediately to deescalate public outcry. Is it B direct parents formal reconsideration of policy? C ask superintendent to personally teach the class to evaluate the book. >> That sounds great. >> Or D to form a board sub to rewrite
038the curriculum. needs to get harder. Okay. Uh scenario number six. The board is a split 32 vote on a controversial policy. After the vote after the vote passes, what is the responsibility of the two members who voted no? Is it to publicly campaign against the policy to try and get it overturned? I know these sound simple. >> Log to Facebook. >> Refuse to attend future meetings until the policy is respect the decision of the board as a single corporate entity and allowation or do you tell teachers they don't have to follow? >> Yes, it's one voice. Seven. A board member's spouse owns a construction company bidding on a district project. What must the board member do? Advocate for the spouse's company. Publicly disclose the conflict. Reuse themselves. Vote against the spouse spouse's company to prove
039prove that they aren't biased or resign. Okay. Uh, scenario eight, number eight. A board member is frustrated with the speed of program roll out and begins emailing the curriculum director daily for updates. Why is this violation? >> A correct. Individual board members have no authority to direct supervis. >> Um, number nine, the district is facing a lawsuit. Legal counsel advises $200,000 settlement, but the board wants to go to trial to stand their ground. Who has the final authority? Is it legal counsel as the expert on law? Is it the board of education acting as the corporate body, the superintendent as the executive leader or the district? >> Super. >> C. Are we wrong? >> C. A. It is. The board has the ultimate >> like us like the school board. >> Yep. >> When I
040read board like the state >> I was like what >> you guys have say in that >> the the rale is is that the the board is the client, right? You are the client to that. So, it's sort of like if you were in your own lawsuit and they said, "Do you want to settle or what do you want to do?" You tell your attorney, right? >> Was that different with the recent lawsuit because it was with the insurance company and not with the district? >> Good. Good. >> Okay. Number 10. Number 10. Uh, during an executive session regarding a teacher's contract of non-renewal, a board member wants to introduce personal knowledge. about the teacher's character that is not in the personnel file. What is the correct protocol? Member must base decision solely on the
041formal administrative record. The member should share the info privately with other members during a break. They they should you are correct. The teacher the member should close the administrative record. I have a comment on that. When my brother was on the school board, they had a problem employee, I guess, and they went into executive in executive signed or can't fire the person. They came out of the board firing. It went to circuit court and school laws. That's my brother. Oh, really? Oh, okay. >> A board member regularly posts on their personal Facebook page criticizing the district's new grading policy. They include a disclaimer that their views are their own. However, they also share internal non-privileged data like raw unagregated test scores to prove the policy is failing. the conflict. Does the board members first amendment
042rights to free speech override their fudiciary duty to the board judiciary duty to the board's collective authority and data privacy policies? So, um the board members first amendment rights to free speech override u sorry >> only because of the the data that they're showing. Correct. Right. But they could say the grading and all of that. I mean, >> they could they could say that >> if you you were to have somebody come in, they would say um that isn't healthy for a board. >> It's not healthy. Correct. >> And and healthy for a school district for sure. >> Correct. >> Um but um yeah, and the one thing it's that it says is the governance reality. While members have free speech, they cannot disclose nonpublic data. U many states have ruled that a board member's
043personal page can become a public forum if used to discuss district business potentially creating a public records act violation for every comment on >> which is um so >> don't do it Um, okay. So, the superintendent recommends dissolving the high ability track at the middle school level to relocate those funds to remedial reading programs, citing data that the current track is demographically nonrepresentative of this district. A group of local high turnout voters threatens a recall election if the board approves this. the conflict which is balancing equity data driven leadership against political survival constit and constituent representative. So what do we do >> have to follow the data and what the equity stance is. >> So the govern The board's legal duty is to the entire student body, not just the segment that votes. Um really
044the an action that you could take in something like this is you could um direct the superintendent to provide a phase in or hybrid model. Um you could also hold some listing sessions before a final vote, those kinds of things. Okay, your child is in the fourth grade. Their teacher is a who taught you mostly half the current. However, data shows this teacher students are consistently underperforming and have other classroom deficits. The superintendent presents a nonrenewal recommendation for this teacher based on documented performance issues. You know that let's just say the conflict here is if you vote to nonrenew your child, you will face the social consequences of firing a legend in town where everybody knows every right. If you vote to keep the teacher against the superintendent data act recommendation, you're undermining the district
045strategic goal for the academic excellence of violating your previous year. here for the students. >> You're here for the students. You must separate your child's struggle from the professional data. You support the superintendent's recommendation on the districtwide data while privately seeking outside. Well, this is if your your current is if your child was part of the scenario was if your child was in the classroom. >> So, it's this is one of the hard things. It's harder in a town this size, right? um versus a larger challenge because everybody knows everybody, right? So, um okay, the district is facing a massive budget shortfall. The superintendent suggests cutting the C team for volleyball and basketball to save on travel and coaching stipens as one of the cost-saving measures. Your daughter is the captain of C. It is
046her entire social world. You find out about this proposal in a confidential executive session that evening. Your daughter asks, "Mom, did you hear anything about them about cutting our team? Everyone is talking about it. It's executive session." So, >> good thing we don't have a CT, but It's just one of those things that >> you you know and I think it's harder for those of you that have kids in the district >> because now all of a sudden so so I just want to point this other piece out is is that first of all you have to remain silent. You can't tip your your child off. Um, but you you must wait until the agenda is made public. But once it's public, you can encourage your child to use their first amendment rights and speak
047at a board meeting, right? But you should probably recuse yourself if the board takes a vote that specifically provides a financial benefit or detriment to your family. I slip L. Just kidding. Just kidding. Okay. Um, you are at a backyard barbecue. A fellow parent, a close friend starts complaining that their child isn't getting their IEP hours met. They name a specific special education aid who they claim is lazy. You happen to know from a confidential personnel report that the aid is actually on a performance improvement plan and is about to be terminated. What do you do? What do you how do you react to the person? >> Administrators. >> Yes. The best advice is you can play clueless. I'm sorry your child is struggling. Have you followed up with the special ed teacher, the director
048or Williams? >> Yeah. Let me tell you where Melissa Williams lives. >> Says, "Yes, please give me down the street." >> Okay. A parent emails the board 20 times a day about a bus route or about another issue. >> Forward them all to Nikki. >> Oh, wait. >> So, really uh the board should not respond individually. um the board um you can for them to me the superintendent or you can you should send them to like your board chair and then any communication should either come from myself or the board chair they'll it'll be one formal response on behalf >> but we're we're getting close >> and I know people want >> I want to give you one more >> oh she's got a good one coming. >> We got a good one. We'll do
049one last one really quickly. Um, a board votes not to hire the head coach golf coach recommended by the superintendent. >> Is this a personal attack? >> Just kidding. >> You have you have something to tell us? >> And I I wanted to do this one because Mike like Mike had said because we had a question one time is if you have coaches on here, >> remember we had this scenario the hire. >> They didn't want to approve a hire of somebody. And so what happens if that's the case? Well, ultimately you can say no, >> but there are consequences to that, right? There are consequences in overall our relationship, right, of the board and the superintendent. But there's also consequences because if that person came back and could potentially sue the district to say,
050why wasn't I hired and would demand to what took place and and what the reasoning was and there's some liability and a no vote based on that just so you know. >> So let's say that um it comes before us that you're going to hire um Taran as the head football coach and that you think that's a great idea and maybe the five of us don't think that is a great idea then like what would be the steps like would we go into executive session or would we just have to say Terrence did do a great job? So, the board's role is to ensure a fair process was followed, not to pick their favorite candidate. Rejecting a qualified recommendation often signals a lack of professional trust. Um, but if a no vote is based on
051personal grudges, lee rumors, or a board member's child lean on the teeth, the district is vulnerable to a lawsuit for arbitrary capriccious personnel action. Um, but in that case where like Taran is unqualified, would that fall under that too? No offense, Taran. I'm sure you'd be great. >> Sure you'd be great. >> I guess it depends on what how you would think to you know unqualified. I think in those cases we would never put in somebody you >> but it has to be like if you came to me and say listen I happen to know something like I see this person's on here and I happen to know they have something else that's against the law or whatever. You would need to come to me immediately have that discussion. >> Sorry. You're good. Perfect. >>
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