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Phoenix-Talent School Board meeting 09-19-2025

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2025-09-19
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Jackson County, OR
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13,072 words · about 73 min
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2026-06-21

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001Everybody, welcome to the board meeting. Going to call this meeting to order. And the first item of business is a student representative report. I don't know. [laughter] >> We were Yeah, we were talking about today and yesterday. >> Okay. So, >> do you have a report by proxy or should we just move on? Sure. >> Oh, no. Well, no, you don't have to. You can wait. I'm ready. >> We can wait till accentuate the positive. That's fine. um which is next the go. >> Good evening board. My name is Sha Schllet, principal at Phoenix Elementary School. Welcome uh to Phoenix Elementary. I have a few positives that I'd like to share. First of all, our um secretary Lorie Delgado Vermont, her name is Barbara Neely, works for Walmart and it is like the ultimate hug.

002We have so many donations coming our way and I think it's really awesome that in the last several years we haven't had to have have our families provide school supplies but we provide that for them and I think that's such a good gift in this in these times and so we have quite a bit of supplies that we even share out with other schools at this point and so just want to say thank you so much to Barbara Mey for really helping us facilitate all the um wonderful school donations from Walmart. want to also give a shout out. Right now we're doing a lot we're just ending our um our beginning of the year diagnostics and so we have a big team of people uh head spearheaded by Sean Spain um and our team of

003IAS who have just been individually assessing a bunch of people and so I just want to give a big shout out to all of them and our teachers for for helping facilitate all of these beginning of the year assessments. And then finally, I want to give a shout out to um Christy Dixon, our librarian. Our our facilities are used quite frequently for a lot of different afterchool events for both our adult living center and in our library. So just I just appreciate her graciousness and always just being willing to be like, "All right, let's set this up or okay, we got to accommodate for other groups." And so this is truly a shared space in our community and just want to give her a shout out. and then just all of our teachers too because

004we have people using our building quite frequently and we really do view this place as a community center. So um PS is doing great. That's all I have for today. >> Good evening everyone. Kent Belair, principal at Orchard Hill Elementary. Do any of the board members I remember last with acronyms. Do any of you know what a PLC is? Oh, good thought. Um, professional learning C for I don't know. >> Community. >> Does it Can you define what a professional learning? >> Like math teachers get together and work on the math curriculum. >> Yeah. I just like it's a group of teachers sitting around together planning their stuff and doing good things for kids. Right. So, I want to recognize Javier, Shauna, and Heather. This year, we're doing something different with those uh teacher meetings.

005Um all of the district grade level meetings in the elementary are meeting together Tuesday afternoon. So uh it really benefits Orchard Hill because we have two teachers at every grade level and it's nice to just have more people there to share ideas and and capitalize on the wealth of the knowledge of all the teachers here at Phoenix Elementary and Talent Elementary. Um, so I want to thank those guys. And Jen Dodson, a third grade teacher at Orchard Hill, is actually the lead teacher for third grade. That's a pretty good undertaking and she's doing a great job and so I want to thank her publicly tonight. Um the second thing I have is uh new school years always has some challenges that you learn about when school opens and um as you probably know our special

006education models changed a little bit at the elementary and our special ed aids are doing tremendously. Their jobs have changed changed and evolved quite a bit from last year. Attitudes are very positive and they're in classrooms helping kids and uh so I wanted to thank them. Um the new gym floor is excellent. It's all striped now. It looks great. Uh and lastly, tomorrow we're having our first like monthly pride assembly. And I need to brag uh about Sean and I a little bit. We had the very good judgment to hire a new music teacher, Tyler Santi, and he has written a school song in Orchard, put it to music, and the fourth and fifth graders already know it. And it's the 18th date of September. So, they'll sing that tomorrow for the first time. And

007those things are just good for kids. So, um, it's going great. Uh, Dr. Tiffany Low [laughter] name. Tonight, I get to speak for Heather Low, principal at Talent Elementary School. So, I'm going to read what she wrote. This week, I want to celebrate our students as we move to a full inclusion model. Our students are showing us what is possible when you create an inclusive culture. They show up for each other in inspiring ways, making sure everyone is taken care of and part of classroom experiences. and being a role model for kids and adults. Next week, we host our annual fall family barbecue from 5:00 to 7 o'clock. Everyone is invited. Fire District 5 will be grilling and staff will be serving until 6 p.m. At 6 p.m., you're welcome to join a classroom meeting

008to see our family engagement work in action. >> Nice. >> Speaking of family night, I want to send a big shout out to our teachers who are collecting important data for these meetings. They're building community, setting expectations, establishing routines, implementing curriculum, and administering assessments. And they do it all with besto and full of product. So that is from Heather. And then just on a personal note for me, um you know, Kent mentioned our special education staff, but I also want to give a big shout out to our general education staff, too. and Rosario were just talking about the collaboration between our general education staff and our special education staff to just do what's uh needed to make sure all of our students feel like they belong and they contribute to our school community. It's have

009been a great start of the school year. >> Thank you. >> Hello Santi. Um just really quickly uh we had our first um family engagement activity last Friday. are part of the park and here at Blue Heron Park. We had threequarters of our elementary students and their families show up along with several of our middle schoolers as well. Um so that was a great start for our family engagement. And then we're looking forward to our trip to uh Bessantfield Farms for our annual trip over there for the pumpkin patch. That's always one of our most well attended events. And so we're excited about having a great group this year and getting to know them a little better. Uh good evening board. Casey Homestead principal at Talent Middle School. Um I also just have a few

010shout outs. Um first and foremost, Jen Baker. Uh so we are offering algebra one this year at the middle school which we weren't last year. Um and so that has just been a great addition um back and thinking of like the transition to the high school and really bridging kind of building up those higher math uh program that they can have there and she has just taken it in front of it um with the excitement and being in there and just some of the rigor and academic language and everything that they're doing there has just been really cool to see. Um I just an appreciation for Charlene Patton at the district office. She um just like with a smile all times is like the most helpful human being ever for me. Um she's helped me

011out with a couple kids this year that we've been working on some different things. Um and just is always so help. So I just am grateful for her. Uh Misty Hutzel and Karen Wilson uh while we there isn't any behavior at the middle school. um they just of course um they uh are just like the front runners on those things and they've just had a lot of new ideas going into this year and they're implementing some new strategies and it's already we're just already seeing an impact and so it's really cool their initiative in that uh we had open house >> Tuesday yeah [laughter] know what day it is at this point um and we had 156 students and their families attend Um, and yeah, it felt very positive. Um, I give a shout out

012to Sedexo. They did a food sampling of their new food. And at one point before we were starting, I gave like our, "Hey, families want to get started. We had their samples there." And uh, right away, a husband and their uh, child got up and the wife right away just palm in hand because it was just like as I was talking, they went out and I will do the same thing. So, it was zero judgment. It was awesome, but it was just a fun addition to the night. Um, I know last time I talked about this idea of hope and the activity we did uh with staff. Um, I had families participate in that too and I can share that with uh you guys with the board. I have a folder that shows that and

013there are some really just sweet things that parents are just the things they're hoping for for their kids. And that's a message that we're wanting to kind of like put out um as kids are walking through the halls um and just continuing that message of hope. And then last but not least, and this will be something that I'll be talking with you guys kind of throughout the year, but um there's something called a community 101 grant. I'm going to read a little about about it. So, uh exciting program giving Oregon youth service and leadership opportunities by connecting them with charitable organizations within the community with the support of the Oregon Community Foundation's community 101 curriculum and program coordinator. Students are led through a year-long process of creating a grant to address the need within our

014community. Um so TMS got the community 101 grant uh this year. Um and so within our leadership class um it's up to 7,500 bucks and it's really the kids are leading the effort. So they're identifying a need in our community and then after they identify that need is really looking at nonprofits that are servicing that need and all the way down to creating RFPs um and all of that and they get to be a part of that. And I'm super excited not only just the kids being excited about that but like this legitimate money that we can give away and then being able to like really dig into what's going on community and what we need. Um so there will be more to come with that. the program supervisor is going to be training our

015kids next Wednesday. Um, and so the donor that is a part of it will be there. Um, and just kind of working with our kids and starting that work. But I'm really excited to take that on this year at CMS. >> Thank you. Thank >> good evening board. Elen Cross from principal of Phoenix High School. Um, a couple of announcements. I was actually excited that I might be shorter than everybody else today in my spiel, but since our students are here, [laughter] uh, so tomorrow at PHS is dressed like a pirate day. Um, and we also have our first rally. We're really excited and we'd love to invite you to join us. The rally will be from 12 to 12:30, so right before lunch. And then you're welcome to stick around and have some great

016food and enjoy um the awesome costumes that will be available. We also have a home football game tomorrow um evening and so we're wearing our pirate gear to that as well. Our band will do their first um halftime performance that uh tomorrow evening as well. So it'll be a whole day. You're welcome to join us. We'd love to have you. Um, a couple of other things that are going on for gearing up for homecoming. Homecoming is the week of October 13th. That's an inservice day. Um, so we're saying October 14th is the kickoff. Our parade will happen on Wednesday, October 15th. We're really excited about the possibility of partnering with some groups um in the city to do possibly like a pirate treasure hunt over the next over those couple of days that will end

017um at the Friday night football game, the homecoming game. That is still in the works. We're trying to get that going. Um but that might be a dream this year with the reality of next year. But we're excited about that possibility. Um we also after the parade have our um E-Man and the Powderpuff games that we're really excited about and then on Friday the football game followed by an aftergame dance. So and if you want to come to any of those things you're also welcome to do that. could always use the chapter. Um, some other great things that are going on at the high school are um, we just had our very first core review or data dive at the high school level yesterday. I want to shout out to Alyssa Barber who is essentially

018our instructional coach who helped gather some data and led staff through what feels super messy and kind of frustrating when you first get your hands in some data. I also wanted to shout out to Jessica Hamlin for her work around our instructional leadership team and opening positions for that. We met as an as an instructional leadership team today to figure out how we want to use data in our processes moving forward, what those core reviews could look like, and I was happy to have representation from almost all departments on that team. And so that work's really valuable and we're excited about it. Um, lastly, but certainly not least, we have our openhouse event happening next Wednesday, the 24th from 6:00 to 7:30. Um, we're going to start out in the comments. Our culinary students are

019really excited to serve up some delicious food. We will be talking a little bit about attendance and the importance of that. And then we will end with an opportunity for families to just get a face-toface meet and greet with teachers and connect in that way. So, we'd love to have you there. And that's all from a parish shift. >> Good evening board. Kelly Soder, community care and early learning. Um I feel a little there. Just two quick things. Want to give a shout out for our little littlest of pirates. I think we call them little risers, but they're also really cute with little pirate hats on. Um super just a lovely group of educators. I want to give a shout out. We've one one person that's moved into the lead a teacher role. Bernice um

020Munoz was one of our teacher assistants last year and just definitely has that CA capacity and and stepped into the teacher role this year and one of our in our green classroom and she's just doing a great job. So we're so grateful that she's taken that challenge on um with happy kids, happy families. It seems like a really really smooth start to the year. We're just practicing our routines and just have so much potential for the year. We're really excited. We're joining the pirate parade for the first time. So, you'll see us as we march down um on the parade route and then just really exploring other options this um year. Melissa Madson actually reached out early on from the high school and really excited about some partnerships, maybe some goats, maybe some flowers planting,

021all kinds of cool things that we could do. And so, we're just really excited about all the opportunities there. Um switching gears, you may have seen um the announcement and I think we mentioned it earlier around a grant we received. um kind of a long organization. It's from the public schools public school district opioid recovery trust as that um opioid settlement money. We were awarded we did find this out in in late spring or early summer. Um but officially um we're awarded a grant the only or the only district in Oregon. So super excited about that. I think it's 51 school 51 39 schools districts I think if something I sorry I apologize about that but um it's about just under 500,000 for three years um it's really going to provide some substance use abuse

022counseling on a on a short-term fortunately we don't need full-time in that situation but some parttime at TMS and PHS um expanding the screener that we use for um a universal brief intervention screener and then continuing that kind of supporting and care coordination of family. So um really grateful for that opportunity. And then um the last is we do annual training for suicide prevention and I just want to give a shout out to our elementary schools. We did our elementary training this week and middle school and high school. We'll do it in the next few weeks and it's never an easy topic to to talk to tackle um and and challenging at the beginning of the year. It's challenging at any time. So just grateful for the audience and participation and the the leadership of

023our our principles to get that done. >> Right. Anything from the board? >> Yes. >> Oh yeah, go for it. >> Um first I just want to comment on um the school song. I think that's really awesome. I still remember my school song from elementary school at Talon Elementary. I don't know if it's the same, but I'm going to sing it for you now. Also wanted to >> the shout out for um the open house of the middle school. I attended that >> and Casey is a motivational spe speaker. I don't know if everybody knows that there was people crying. Like it was a very it was the best open house I've ever been to. >> And yeah, that's all I got. >> Very cool. I have a question about the song. Is this a

024brand new song or it's been in existence and in >> Brand new? >> Wow. It's impressive. Very cool. >> Originally done by ACT. >> Oh, [laughter] I love that. There's a joke in there somewhere, but um okay. Uh I think so we have Rosario here from the association. I think we normally have this at this point in the agenda, but it somehow ended up in information and discussion. I could be wrong about that, but nonetheless, without objection, I'd love to just move that up so that Rosario could share her update now if that's okay. So, and we'll get you a microphone, Rosario, if you if you will. Thank you and welcome. >> Yeah. >> Um, all right. So, hi. I'm Rosario Medina, the vice president of the Phoenix Talent Education Association. Nice to be here.

025Um, we like to just give a report, I think once a month at least, just to let you guys know what's going on, what we're hearing from our members and things like that. Um, so one thing I want to celebrate is we're not bargaining this year. Yay. [laughter] And also um as we were reviewing the contract that we agreed on um you know because we have to give updates to our members in the beginning of the year we're like wow this is an amazing contract. It felt you know like bargaining I feel like it's always going to feel like oh we're in the trenches and this and that. But looking at it really shows how much we value um our students because everything in there that was added in is supporting our members. and we're

026already seeing that in the beginning of the school year. And if you support the educators, you're going to be able to provide even better quality education to our students. And that value is one that we all obviously share. And that was great to see that. Um, one thing that was brought up, you know, with like just the situation and everything, we um have high class sizes in some places. Then one thing we put into the contract last year was just like guidelines on if you meet this if you have this many students then these are the kind of supports you can ask for this is how you would like trigger that conversation with your admin and we got some great feedback on admin who have been really willing to like yeah let's sit down let's

027get the supports you need so these students to get on the right track from the beginning of the year so that was something really good to hear. Um, one thing and I think we brought this up ever since we took it away is we really want soft start back. [laughter] Um, when I first started teaching here in the district, we had soft start. I was kindergarten teacher and it was great, right? Because every year um, I had 28 students. So, it was nice to start out with just 14 students. And even if it was just like a day or half a day, just like those things that's easier to teach when you just have 14, right? like standing in line because I can actually see all of them instead of wondering where the rest of

028them are. Um and just like you know taking care of each kid at the cafeteria and really showing them how to um do that routine and procedure um is a lot easier with just 14 versus um 28 kids. So we would like to have that back. Um one thing that um really made it apparent for me anyway this year is that this year we actually have soft start at the preschool. It was amazing cuz with Soft Start, we had a small group of kids. We could really focus. I remember thinking like, "Oh, this is why I liked it because I see he's fidgety, so he's going to need to sit in the back so he can wiggle and not distract his friends. Oh, I see this kid um probably needs to be a little closer

029because they keep standing up and look trying to get closer to the book, right? Things like that." Um so that was nice to see. And then also it was nice for the kids cuz then when they came back and all their friends were there and it was a little bit more stimulating. They they um knew that this was a fun place already. They knew the teachers cared about them and they already felt like experts in some things. So they didn't have to learn everything with everyone there, right? Which is the change I noticed when we went from soft start to no soft start. When I was a kindergarten teacher, it was like, "Okay, I'm going to show you guys how to do the lunch routine. Oh, wait. We have a billion other people behind us.

030Like that's what we're stimulating as a teacher. I can just imagine for littles. So, that's one thing that we would like back. And that's about it. We're having a great start to the school year. So, >> yeah. Thank you. >> Very good report. Thank you so much. >> Um, okay. Next is uh citizens comments. Do we have anybody audience like to speak? I don't think we have anyone in the audience period. Um, do we have anybody online? >> I do. Nobody that wants to speak, but Nancy is online. I wanted you to know that she >> Yeah. And remind me to call on her when we too. Thank you. >> I have Yes. >> Under kudos. >> Yeah. >> I went to lunch at um the school. >> Oh, very good. And the first off

031I noticed that it was very well organized in color codes. So you didn't have to speak the language. It was color codes. And I guess a janitor was the one who came up with that method >> which is brilliant. I mean taking suggestions from wherever they come. And the not so wellchosen item or frequent cuz chicken McNuggets was basically on the menu was a penny a tomato sauce and a penny and it was excellent and it was example of she the chef >> forgot his name >> Ryan sweet. Yeah Ryan >> Ryan sweet it was excellent. So, and the thing that stuck out for me, and again, I haven't been in the school since my kids were there, and they're 50 years old. Um, was looking through the younger grades, every table was a mixture

032of colors, of faces. It was very well integrated. They were all interacting. It felt like one family eating together, and that was great. I don't know if that's happening say in the junior high or the high school, but I was very impressed that it was happening in the grade school. So, >> thank you so much. >> All right, Mr. Barry. >> Yeah, thank you, Chair Campbell. I just have a couple things and want to reiterate uh and by the Rosario reflected on the beginning of the year too and think some of your colleagues in the back thought you know soft start may have some good benefit. So, that's in discussion and and we'll definitely take that into consideration. hear about it at home. But thank you for mentioning that. Um I do want to say

033we're ending the third week of uh with students and I've been in every school uh and it just it feels good. I want to reiterate the positiveness that uh uh people have shared already uh and really in particular and I know uh Casey and uh the middle school are getting a lot of kudos, but I was there yesterday and really had one of the best just walkthroughs. Casey was um handling another issue and I just walked around by myself and popped into classrooms and it just felt really good being able to talk with staff. Uh some people were on their prep so we had a little bit longer discussion uh the engagement of the students uh in some math classes that were really kind of starting to use best practices and and student talk and

034um really kind of think pair share. It was just great to see uh some of that thing those things in action. Um, in your packet, you will see something that we will be sending out in a a week or so. Um, prior to the tax statements coming out, we want to make sure that the citizens in our um taxing district and our school district know the uh benefits of what they voted on in the 2017 bond. Uh, and so this will be mailed to nearly 5,000 residents um about the u about what has happened and also there's a QR code that has much more information on our website about uh locally spent dollars. 93% of our bond was spok spent locally and so that's a big deal. Um, and thank you Joe for putting this

035together and cramming as much information as possible uh into um a flyer that can be sent out and mailed out. >> Very nice. >> I also do want to uh it has to do with this and I know Don has mentioned this uh a couple times but Yasmin and I met with David Williams today who works for Piper Jaffrey who manages and runs our bonds and we um really just got a lot of information on what some of the options we may have. as far as refinancing and and doing some of that thing those things in the future and um he has been he's willing to come speak to our board to kind of share some of those things. So we'll talk about that at the board when the timing is right to do that.

036Uh finally I just want to share that I did attend the service of Craig Puit today. Um and it was very well attended. A lot of staff, former staff, former board members. Um and Rick and I were reflecting at the reception and just so grateful that we were able to honor him here when we were had a chance to and in the spring and so um I just wanted to share that. That's all I have. >> Thank you. Any questions for Mr. Barry? >> Flyer is great. >> Thank you for that. Okay, next Aaron is going to give us um I think we got 30 minutes for this, right? For the for the integrated >> annual report. >> All right, go for it. >> I think it was wrong. Yeah. Um, okay. So, as part

037of our uh integrated plan uh requirements, we're required to submit um to the state uh an annual report and you guys should have a copy of that. I don't know Denise if you put it in their packet 09 or did >> um and I know it's it's formatted in an odd way because it's comes from a spreadsheet. So, but basically there's three questions that the state asks us about and it's essentially what's going well, what challenges have you had, and then um how did how did your uh your longitudinal growth performance targets measure up with your expectations? And so, um really briefly, you can see our comments there. Not going to read those for you, but um it refers to outcomes. Outcomes A through G. Those all come from our uh integrated plan and those

038have to do with things like ensuring that all students are learners um ensuring that everybody has equitable opportunities. Um so all those things that you all saw as we submitted the plan but um essentially you know we're really pleased with how things have gone as far as our family engagement work over the last couple years. Um things that we continue to see as a challenge and again I'm doing as a brief synopsis. uh things you we consider you see as a challenge is uh the attendance our chronic unattenders continues to be an issue. We saw a slight dip last year as compared to the year before. Uh we're hoping to address that. So you'll see some of those things noted in there. And then finally um as far as how we're performing relative to our

039longitudinal growth performance targets, uh we do have some bright spots and some areas that we're we're working to improve. And so um obviously our uh graduation rate has been great. Um our uh attendance has not met where we want to be. Um both of our four year and 5year cohort graduation is doing really well. Um our ninth graders on track has kind of bounced up and down. So this last year we saw a little bit of a step back. We're looking forward to trying to improve there. So uh basically the annual report comes down to uh synopsises. It's a little bit of a mixed bag and we are working on all those areas that we want to try to continue to improve. So if anybody has any questions I'm happy to entertain those. >> I

040think I think the strategic plan and this are you know innately in intertwined and so everything you're talking about sounds very familiar to the to the update what we got a month ago. >> Yeah. And that's very much intentional. I mean, they have to be integrated because that's the work, the strategic plan, everything we do. And so, we took that and >> and plugged it in as much as we could in the integrated. Yeah. >> Guidance. >> Appreciate your work on this. Any questions for Aaron? And I do we we have to open up for comment, right? If anyone wants to comment. Okay. >> Yeah. One of the one of the legal requirements is that there does need to be an opportunity for public comments. >> Okay. Would anyone in the public wish to comment

041on the integrated plan or online? Nobody better raise their hand. >> Anybody, >> if there was any real public care, I wouldn't say that. >> Yeah. Anybody who is not employed by the Phoenix Council. >> Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you, Aaron. >> Um, okay. Next, we have the consent agenda. Do I have a motion to approve? >> I move to approve the consent agenda as presented. second. >> I'll give it to Diana. Okay. Thank you, Don. Thank you, Diana. Uh any uh any objections? Hearing none. Consent agenda is approved. Okay. Um information and discussion. Legislative OSBA update. >> Okay. I have a lot. [laughter] >> Go for it. So, we had our board retreat and I just it has been like a hectic day today. I just got the notes from Lenel. I

042will be sending them out um to everybody of what uh we did, but I'm going to do a little bit of the highlights. One thing I learned that might be valuable to the board is board books. I'm right now I write my notes that I'm going to say in board books. That is public record. So, um, even though no one else sees them, but they are recorded. So, if you put something in there like, I can't believe Don's recorded so long. It's >> so, um, Lel's like, "Does anyone put notes in it?" I'm like, "I do." She's like, "Well, they're public. No." I'm like, "I say everything in there." Anyways, um, another thing is we had conversations. It was really nice this year on the last day we did like these roundts and went to

043each board of directors and t was able to talk to the board of directors and my group half the people didn't show up so it was just me and another person and we got to talk a lot but um it was really good to have open conversations of of things we've heard from our districts and one of the things I've heard from our dis from not just our district but districts in our region is or news is Great. Except sometimes an article will be written about a school that has misinformation and then it gets sent out again. So we talked about that concern and they said, "Well, we need to put out we can't just put all a happy news story." And I said, "Yeah, I get that, but for instance, when we did our

044bond, they added a couple zeros to the number and that makes a whole big difference, right?" And so she said if there was cases of misinformation to let the communications department know about that. So um they're going to probably send something out soon. But that was really good to know. And they were also promoting um the good news stories. They do that a separate way. And um Joe got kudos again about how well that he has prepared. Actually in my group they were talking and they talked about Michael being a contract person and someone said does anyone in OSBA know that Phoenix talent there's other schools in Southern Oregon besides Phoenix Talent like they always do everything someone has to do something else. So >> can I if I may I was remiss when I

045kicked it over to you for this topic. Sean was just elected president of the OSP. >> This is when I forget to call uh Tiffany Dr. Lambert. I I was remiss not referring to you as President Watson. So >> yeah. >> So um what else would I get? So speaking of that, our new president-elect is Jose Glamaro Dorensson. He's from David Douglas. He's brand new on the board, but he is like ready to go and a wonderful They're all wonderful. And our vice president is Nancy Thomas, who is also a wonderful um human being. If you have not met her, she's from Hillsboro. Chrissy writes um she is from Hood River and she's continuing to be um secretary treasurer. And then Chris Cronin will be um the past president. So, I am currently I just

046got to drop one name off my title, but I'm currently vice president and president-elect. I got to drop the acting off for the next two months. So, [laughter] um then we we had a huge conversation. So, every three years according to OSBA bylaws, we are supposed to go through the governance of our board and see if everything is working. um the last couple three years periods. The last one there was not much discussion at all. I actually asked for discussion and it didn't we didn't get really much discussion and the time before that I don't remember the discussion. So basically the governor's committee has had like these discussions decided they're going to keep everything the same. They come to the board and say we've discussed it. We're going to keep everything the same. And then

047the board goes okay and votes yes. Well, that's not happening this year. Um, I'm be in charge of the governance committee and I think we need to have some robust conversations and so does the rest of the board. So, we had some really good robust conversations on what's working with OSBA and what's not and we're going to dig in deep. It's probably going to take more than a year. Um, we need to reook at the number of representatives we have per region. How the el the legislative policy committee um is working, how the board is working, the map, the names on the map, I mean caucuses, should we do um committees instead of caucuses? I mean there's how big can our board actually get? Because right now we're 24 people. If you add more caucuses,

048it could be 30. And 30 people for a board is huge. And then LPC is double that. So right now, our legislative policy committee is 48, which is a lot of people for a committee to get productive. Luckily, not luckily, only about half of them show up. [laughter] So, it's a little bit easier. But um if everybody showed up, 48 people in a room and staff trying to come up with, you know, goals and missions gets a little bit challenging to say the least. So we had big conversations. If you want to know more about that, let me know. But we're I think we're going to hire an outside firm, the Krager group, who helped us with some planning before and kind of really get into the meat of what is working. and we had

049great conversations and the people up north a lot of them did not understand um like right now it's just me there's no Sarah there's no LPC it's me with my whole region and some regions have six people in their region of seven districts so it's like oh this is a little bit off base so we're going to have conversations how we can make this and what is our goal is our goal to support students or because that's the way it's set up or is our goal was for um to support school board members because if you only have seven and there's six of you, it's easy to support. If there's one and we have a lot of school board members, it's it's a difference. So, we're going to we had started off with great conversation

050and we're going to continue. But if you have more questions for that, um let me know. And we are having our board meeting on Sunday of the conference weekend and then you can always stay and come to our board meetings as well. Um, [clears throat] also today we had a call with Senator Mkeley's staff for a half an hour. There's about eight of us OSBA board of directors on the call. Um, it wasn't great news. I'm just going to be honest, it wasn't great news. Um they they're hoping the senators are hoping they can push the budget up a little bit, but there's nothing that says they're going to have to follow it or the money follows through with the budget. And so um they're try the senator's office is trying their best to help

051out. So, if we if you get a letter of appeal, um they said that they would help write a like if you sent for a grant and had to appeal that you didn't get it, they would help um write a letter on that process. And then if you were denied, they want to know because they want to keep track of how many schools are getting denied, how many schools are getting appeals. They also mentioned I talked a little bit. Shocker. And um said that I was in southern Oregon and she's like, "Oh, you're in Vince, so who else is in bed?" There was two of us. And she really said, you know, "Communicate with Ben." And we said, "We've been trying." and she said send those to Benz as well. But Berkeley's office is wanting

052that so that when he's testifying he can have stories and then he they will probably contact us and say, "Hey, can I use your name or your district or the story because um they really want to help." And so the more information they get from us, the more stories, the more data of appeals and and denials is better. They don't unless they call up that department, they don't get that information. They have no clue how many schools in their state got denied funding or any of that. So, keep setting the stories and keep on going. Last, just a reminder, October 20th is the road show for our region in Ashland. In the morning time, midm morning time, um, Pace will be doing a presentation. Dave told me what it was on. It was on three

053important things. [laughter] and I'm sure they're great. I can't remember off the top of my head. And um you can attend that if you would like. Uh I will be sending it. And because I didn't write it down, I apologize. I have it at home. There's also going to be a workshop next week on um first amendment rights of employees and schoolboard members and staff about what you can and can't say on social media and how to handle that. Um PACE has had a lot of claims this last week and a lot of calls, not necessarily claims, but a lot of calls. A free loss has been busy. So, they're going to um send a do a webinar for that. It will be recorded just to kind of remind everybody what is going what um

054you can do. And that is it. Any questions? >> No, but I'll just make a comment and I know you uh met with Senator Mkeley. Um we did yesterday officially receive uh a denial of our appeal of our mental health grant that was um uh uh discontinued and so we are going to be strategizing on um how we take the next steps and definitely reaching out to Merkel and Biden and Benson on um support for that. >> And remind me I'll send you her email. She's in she is in charge of the um school section for Merkel and so she wants all those denials and I apologize that I didn't tell you until after I got off the phone that I was going to be on the phone with them. Um, but she would love

055to not really love to hear, but she wants to know >> and and we'll have to have a plan of action. I've sent it to Kosa and there's four other, as you remember, four other districts in our state that received that grant and I'm assuming they received the same denial letter, but we'll have a plan of action and definitely reach out to the representative. >> They also mentioned, and I'm sorry, I'll I'll put these in my notes. They also mentioned that there was a great I think it was um article Washington Post maybe it's somewhere on my notes and it talked about the words not to say in your uh appeals in your letters. Oh, it was the Washington Post and it they basically did a survey on what words got flagged when you wrote

056grants to the federal government and it's in the Washington Post that she recommended um doing reading it and making sure those words were not in there. A lot of schools are just taking the words out but still doing the work. And she's like that's basically what you're going to have to do. What's the status of that lawsuit that was filed? >> Um I I don't know. I can check up on that as well. >> And I'm not sure any of the um four districts jumped on that, but we should be able to get some information on that. >> Okay. >> Thank you, Don. And congratulations again. >> Thank you. >> Um next is a financial report. You going over that? >> Yeah, in your packet and then I'll have you as me as the chair.

057Great. the details of that. >> Yeah, there's one right in front of Aaron there. >> She's been wrapping up the uh June uh 30th and as we also get prepared for uh our audit in a few weeks. Um these are the n latest numbers we have and I'll turn it over to you as me. Thank you for all you do. >> Thank you. >> Good evening. Welcome. I'm Yas Carabinas. >> Yep. So um on the copy that you have as you can see our ending balance increase from the last estimate that I gave you in May and what we included in the adaptive budget uh we were estimating a beginning balance of 10,530,000 and as of right now we have um 11,213,000 11,23 sorry. So uh it's an increase of $683,000. I um gave you

058some explanations of the reason why it fluctuates so much um some of the additional revenues we received from the ESD um and also some expenditures that we hadn't covered and we didn't spend at the end. So that's basically the the difference. One thing that I wanted to mention is that um the last payment for the House Bill 4026, the ADM security grant, we were going to originally claim it until maybe August because it's going to cover expenditures for this year. The OD decided to issue the grant before June 30th. So I had a conversation with the OD and they um pretty much told me that they would appreciate if we claim the monies as soon as possible because of the current state [laughter] funding at state level. So um anyway, so I couldn't wait any

059longer. I have to claim the the fund the grant funds on July 1st >> and we went ahead and recorded the revenue for this year because they were allocating a year behind. >> So I'm just letting you know because the estimate that I'm giving you right now. It may change if for a new reason after the audit is not agree on that because the grant ended on June 30th >> even though it was allocated >> a year behind. Um I wanted to make sure that I just mention it to you now. >> Yeah. >> Um other than that I wanted to also mention and I think I have an enrollment report. Um that is next. >> Looks like we're up a few students which is good news. And uh for what I saw was like

06028 students at level 2600 about 325,000 right there. So it's it's something to look forward to as our enrollment was up. our revenues go up. So um other than that about last year our interest income was as high or higher than the year before. So now that the the rates are dropping a quarter of a percent uh we you can expect that the interest rates are also going to go down. So we um we budgeted for less interest income for this year but so far I mean it's been keeping steady. So we'll see at the end of the year. So, like I said, 689,000 is a lot of money for one year. Um, going now to the next page for the bonds, just to highlight the the balance for the bonds of June is 1,947,000

061and for the construction excise tax fund, we have 666,000 available. Going to grants just to mention we received the actual allocations for this year for the biom and it looks like um in comparison to the preliminary allocation SIA is going to be less but but about 159,000 unfortunately for this year and 165,000 for the following year. for high school success is about 12,000 less and 11,000 for the following year. And early literacy unfortunately looks like it's going to be the um the CSL level instead of the car recommended budget and it's about $3,000 and $4,000 less for each year of the benium. And that's all I have for now. You have any questions? >> Just so you know, CSL is current service level. So they use that in the early literacy um when they were

062talking about that the governor recommended a budget almost double the current service level and they actually funded it at the current service level. And so um but we did find out and I think people were shocked around the state this week that our student investment count dollars went down. Um it's a like Yasm mean says it's a $150,000 market and so we'll have to again and I really appreciate I mean with Tiffany doing federal dollars and Yasbine and just leveraging all the funds and the grants that we have to make sure that we can stay whole as possible and uh uh continue to provide service and and support staff. Could you just elaborate on the security grant and the timing and the date? Can you can you spell that out for me? What what the

063implications are? >> So, basically the grant agreement ended on June 30th of 2025, >> right? >> They were funding us a year behind pretty much. Yeah. >> So we received the allocation for 23 24 until I think it was February of the current year. >> So then the allocation for 2425 was supposed to be funded until August >> during the 25 26 year, >> right? >> Since they wanted to make sure they had that money allocated and out to the districts, they went ahead and issue those agreements, >> okay, >> before June 30th. and they posted the monies in Eg for us to claim. >> Okay. >> So when I had discussion with Wil, he pretty much told me, I kind of want you to go ahead and claim >> okay >> the full amount.

064So wait until July 1st >> of the new year and it's recorded as revenue for the current year >> before any reason needs to be backated. They will have a very large balance for >> Okay, that's okay. That's the piece that I was missing. Okay, got it. Thank you. We'll know that when the auditors kind of dig in and let us know best. I talked to um the their manager and it seems that we can keep it a different year, but once we're done with the audit, they will find out the kind of numbers. >> Are we This is a little bit of a nerdy question. Rick would probably be proud of me for asking it, but are we a cash or a curl basis in the way >> modify a pool? >> Modified. Okay.

065All right. Seems like that would work then but we'll see what they say. I guess >> it should [laughter] work but it has to do with rent agreement. Yeah were available. Got it. Okay. >> As of right now the the good thing is that that's how they were funding us. So that's how we should be able to use the money because we were allowed to point six. >> Right. So >> right. Yeah. Okay. >> I'm with you. I agree. Thank you. Appreciate it. You're welcome. um enrollment >> if you don't know this already yet. I mean is an amazing emerging business. So thank you so much. >> Appreciate it. >> All right. Enrollment report. >> Yeah, just a little bit of a tease. Uh you what you see is what you get there. And uh

066overall we are up 29 students which is a significant amount of dollars. And so if we keep that trend >> um we will be be in good shape. And so um we're we're hoping to do so. We have a number of new students. We are um I would say in October we will get a transfer report and I think I teased it a little bit last week or last meeting about we're uh definitely on the plus side of transfers uh coming in as opposed to going out as well. So >> is this comparative to the time of year? >> Yes. Okay. Okay. Great. Um, any questions on the enrollment report? >> Good news. Um, okay. We already did the PTA update. Um, okay. Waiver for higher ed. The career path skills course required. Yeah, we

067have some options that the state of Oregon uh allows us to uh pursue. And um I'll turn it over to Tiffany on kind of what those options are and how we're looking at kind of uh utilizing those um moving forward. So if you remember, Senate Bill 3 added personal finance and higher education and career path skills as graduation requirements. So a half a credit each and it took it out of the electives requirements. So the overall require credits for graduation didn't change but you know we were kind of hoping it would replace other like subjects but um that's it was elective. So um next year's graduating class would need to have um a full credit of these new classes. The state is allowing us to apply for a waiver which would just wave that graduation

068credit for one year and we don't anticipate needing that just we're teaching personal finance already this year at the high school. But as we've talked about some main possibilities with funding which would possibly on a slim chance impact staffing. We'd like to apply for the waiver just to give us an insurance policy in case we needed that extra. So, we don't anticipate needing it, but it does require board approval to get that beaver waiver as a just in case. >> Yes. Question. Go ahead. >> Um, is it also possible, my kids were famous for being the the unique ones, um, that a kid might slip through the cracks and not be able to get that just, you know, it's their last year and who knows what. Um, is that a possibility as well? I mean,

069I'm sure it's not the intent, but is that a possibilityility? Like one or two might not schedule the line or something going on? >> Only if we have that waiver for an additional year, >> right? No, but I'm saying if we had that waiver, that would tell us there was like one or two that slipped through the crack. >> Again, like yeah, the high school we started personal finance and students do get information about higher ed and career pathways in advisory classes. Okay. But to get that half credit is going to be configuring a new class. And some of the trouble is those moveins. So if you have a senior who moves in, >> right? >> Um like that's a whole credit that we're going to need to plan for. So um like I said,

070yeah, it could help in those situations, too. But one year in case we need it. Again, don't anticipate needing that, but just in case. looking at Kay. >> Will you all I know the answer for this, but I I would love to just get an update on what ends up happening with and you know how you know how if we have to allow waiverss, you know, just how many and just just so we know. >> Absolutely. And like uh um Dr. Lambert was saying we plan to offer personal finance at the end of this uh the second semester and next year. Um the the higher ed and the career and counseling is there's a different ways you can actually uh award that credit. So we're really studying that year on where it's already happening and

071try to maximize those and make that consistent and um clear to our students and our families. So, but we'll definitely keep you updated and we'll bring this back to the board for a vote here sometime in the next probably before the calendar turns over. So, October, November, December. >> I have a question. >> I don't know how to wait for action. >> I don't know how to phrase this nicely, so but I'm going to try my best. I'm guessing this is an unfunded mandate. Correct. >> Correct. Um, do we know how much of an unfunded mandate this is and is it causing any other I know we've had this conversation before. Um, when you add something to the curriculum then something goes away, right? Is there is this did this addition take something away? >>

072Um, I can uh look at Karen to help with that, but my first thought is what it's What it may have taken away from our students is the ability to take more elective classes, okay, or CTE classes that they might be interested in. So, kind of that that fun. And while we agree personal finance and higher ed and career is important to have, um, a full credit is, you know, two semesters of a class that maybe would have been something that was in their interest a little bit. Like I said before, like my just personal belief was um we had thought that maybe personal finance would come out of social studies um credit because that was part of the lensure that was attached to it. And so some of us in the the field of

073curriculum were a little surprised that it came out of >> Yeah. >> And we get a lot of movements from California, for example, because we're near the California border. And so, you know, we can put some classes out um over four years with college and career, but you get those moveins from, you know, across state lines that don't have credit requirements like this in Oregon. And um we don't want any of our students to be punished not to be able to graduate, right? Because we have these additional classes to take. >> Um so, I think that's that's a risk as well. um you know we don't want our students to bear the burden to try to get across that graduation stage um with that as well. So >> that's that's a funding thing too. How

074do we have a a class that we might need to add spring and senior year? >> Yeah. Is it mandated that the career and higher ed segment has to be a separate class or should that be included in on some of these electives like culinary or carpentry or livestock or whatever the segment of how that taps into higher ed, how it taps into careers. Does it have to be a separate class like this is personal finance you know instead of included it or >> it doesn't necessarily have to be a separate class and we're studying that right now but there are special standards state standards that are required to be covered >> okay >> as well as like when we even talk about personal finance the state has very specific standards about Oregon taxes and

075such so there's not really like a even curriculum that would cover all the standards like we might be used to with more common core state standards for other subjects very unique to Oregon. So it we do need to make sure every standard is covered to provision C there. >> Thank you. >> I do think this is an advocacy sense too if we can get this like personal finance into the social studies curriculum that will free up at least another half credit that a student can take a CTE course and we know when kids are involved in CTE courses their engagement and their graduation rates are higher as well. So, uh, we'll continue to advocate for that. >> Okay. Thank you. That's what I was leaning towards because a lot of times our >> we're going

076to have our representatives come um the first of the year. Hopefully, I got to work on that and um this would be a good topic to let them know because I think a lot of the times they vote yes on things and they don't realize the challenges and the funding piece and students moving in and all that. There's more to it than oh look at they're learning something else that we think they should learn. So, >> thank you. Thank you, Tiff. And >> yeah, I just do reiterate these are we are full support of this. >> Yes. And, uh, which is good, but I think there's a different way to put the puzzle together, um, for graduation. And so, um, I just wanted to kind of share that because that's, uh, you know, personal finance

077is, you know, we've done some of that in the middle school and I know our panelists really appreciate that as well. So, >> 100%. But I just don't think the legislators understand like >> the timing and changing and and getting up the standards and it's not just like oh here we go >> here's a book [laughter] >> teach it you know it's more I don't think they understand the nuances like Tiffany nicely explained it. So thank you such as the case with many laws that are [laughter] >> okay uh thank you for that. Next, this should be a pretty quick discussion. Um, board policies on personal electronic devices. Um, so I'll just start and give give a little synopsis. As you know, I think it was July 1st, the governor or second, the governor passed

078an executive order um which um requires school districts in Oregon to um pass a policy that says no cell phones from bell to bell um including meal periods. um as I'm sure you also know um we already had something in place at the building level. Um and so I think in elementary and middle it looks just pretty much like the executive order with the exception of our high school which has been allowing cell phones during meal periods. Um so um we have to the executive order states that we have to there's certain things that we have to um uh spell out in the policy. Um and then um in terms of the time frame we have to pass the policy by October 31st which for us means October 16th because that's our last board meeting

079before Halloween. Um, and so I asked Denise, normally, you know, we do information and discussion and then the next meeting we take action. Um, I asked Denise to put this in here. Now, what you're seeing in here in terms of the draft policy is just the boilerplate draft from straight from OSBA. So, we can do whatever we want as long as it meets the requirements of the executive order in terms of the policy language. Um, but I just wanted you to have that so you can you can look at it. Um, I think something for consideration. You know, we've already been out in public talk. Well, I have been out [laughter] talking about I've been on the news more times than I want to on this. I don't I'm like, there's other districts. Why do

080you want to talk to me? Um, >> I know we're just they only know Phoenix down there. >> My jacket, everything. Um so um we've been saying and we have we've been gathering feedback. So we had a Don and I attended a session with our teachers during inservice at the high school and we had um I don't know about a dozen people there. It was it was not mandatory and they had a very busy week and so a lot of teachers were planning but we got we got enough people there that we got some really good input. Um so we've done that. Kaylin and I have talked about um maybe a couple board members going to an advis the student advisory council. Um so um love to hear, you know, kind of where that's headed.

081And then something that we've thrown around um and that Joe is anxiously awaiting our direction on is um do we want to have a listening session with the community? Um and and I think a lot of that is educating people about you know the executive order and um what's in it and sort of what's required of us. Um, you know, I think as many of us have said, what's unique to Phoenix talent is we have experienced some significant trauma with emergencies and um and that we also have I don't have data to support this, but anecdotally I would say that our students probably have a higher propensity to be caring for younger siblings. we probably have a higher percentage of students who are working um who need their phones at some point during the day

082to arrange their lives um for their families. And so the lunch thing is a real hangup I think for a lot of us. Um so um couple things I'd like to discuss. I just wanted to get the policy in front of you. I want to discuss the board's appetite for having a having a listening session and then get two or three TOPS volunteers who might want to sit in on an advisory council. But if we want to do all that, we need to do it within the next two weeks because we really should probably have some language flushed out um by October 2nd so that we can consider that and then take it for action on October 16th. Um so I real quick um Kaylin did a fantastic job organizing the um session with staff

083and so we had four big giant posted things around the room and we asked um we asked some questions and then um they did rotating group. I let her handle all the all that stuff because that's her expertise and it worked great. Um, so we had post-it notes posted on each of the questions and um, then Kayyn sent pictures and I sent pictures to chat GPT to summarize everything which is great. Um, so we asked about supports we need to make this work, what has worked and not worked in monitoring cell phone use because we've had policy at the high school for a year now. Where should phones go during the day, which is something we're tasked with um, including in the policy. and then any equity concerns about bell-to-bell um enforcements. And so um

084under supports needed, just a summary, staff said success would depend on consistency across classrooms and schools, additional supervision, and clear communication with students and families. Lock pouches were the most frequently mentioned support, though people raised concerns about cost, enforcement, and potential power struggles. So, I think there's real pros and cons with the with the lock patches. Um, what's worked or not worked so far? When schools use clear systems like drawer storage, envelope systems, or consistent classroom expectations, most students follow the rules. What hasn't worked has been inconsistency, earbuds and wireless devices slipping by and phones being taken to bathrooms, which um and then uh there were also concerns about equity and furpa with some enforcement methods and I think that that has to do with like I thought about this a lot too with the

085exemptions. So when a student who might have an exemption is using their device and every other student notices that and then it becomes like well why are they using their device and you get into a whole thing. So um uh where should phones go? The most common idea was keeping them in backpacks ideally in lock pouches. Some suggested collection systems in classrooms or offices but there was hesitation about adding that responsibility to staff without extra support. So that makes sense. Um, and then equity concerns. Staff worried about fairness if phones are restricted bell to bell. Um, concerns included students needing phones for medical or family reasons, short lunch periods, and special events like sports or assemblies. Um, by the way, according to the executive order, if you're a coach taking a football team to Atoria,

086you have to enforce the policy. So, no cell phones on the bus. So, >> bring the bell, right? until the until the end of the bell period. >> Well, yeah. Right. So, you can, you know, if you leave at 10:00 a.m. to drive to Gold Beach. Yeah. No cell phones on the bus. Um, so, um, where was I? For one period, special events. Okay. Consensus was that a one-sizefits-all approach could feel punitive unless accommodations and exceptions are clear. Um, so the overall takeaway, staff are open to stricter limits on phones, but only if there's consistency across the board, clear expectations for families and students, and enough to support enough support to avoid putting teachers in the middle of power struggles. Um, lock pouches are seen as the most realistic tool, but they're not a silver

087bullet. Equity, exceptions, and supervision will all need attention. I think about just efficiency. you're trying to unlock 700 pouches. Um >> that that could be tough. So um and this just popped in my mind, you know, as you're thinking about how do we want to engage the community on this? We could either do that within the next two weeks or we could draft language based on everything we know now and then the community piece could be educating them on um but I think I think there's here's here's what I'm worried about. The team did such a good job last year going to our families and getting their buy in on the policy that we passed with the understanding that kids could use their phones during meal periods. And you know, this this has now caused

088us to re-resurrect all of that stuff. So, um, >> yeah, there's a lot there's a lot to consider. I will say many of our neighbors have just gone with this to start the school year and have heard positive feedback about that. But I think we need to be mindful of the unique circumstances of kids in Phoenix talent. So with that um thoughts, questions? Um we could kind of go in any direction you want. I don't know if we want to go line by line on the policy right now. Um I have some questions about the um the exemption piece. The way this policy is written, the exemption um outside of you know medical or 504 would need to be a written request that's approved individually. I don't think that's a requirement of the executive order,

089but and I don't think also the OD has given us the rules yet. Right. And they won't they're not going to set rules on they're not going to set rules. Okay. >> They could change their mind though, but as of now they're not, right? >> Yeah. Okay. They could change their mind. Well, that would be super fun. >> Um >> I don't know if they will, but they they could. >> Yeah. But they have expressed that that's that's been shared over the last couple counties. That that's helpful to not be waiting for rules on this. Okay. And Michael, yeah, just to make sure you know that AR is optional. >> Yeah, the regular policy is required, >> right? Thank you. Yeah, so that's okay. Um, putting on my Phoenix talent board member hat only right

090now. Um, I feel like we might have some flexibility with that waiver um that exception piece, the last exception that doesn't include 504s. And so an idea we could put in the policy and we could talk with that if we want wanted to get his opinion on it of whether it passes muster with the executive order is could we say the board grants a unilateral exception to students at the high school for the best educational experience for them. um given that we are an open campus um and a community eligibility provision school district where kids get free lunch because I also have real concerns about kids not eating lunch to go use their cell phones at the cemetery across the street. So >> any safety concerns, right? The whole town knows that the high school

091is out of school right now and they're all across the street. >> Yeah. >> So um Yeah. So, um I think I think that's worth exploring and we can get FAD to give an opinion on it. Um that's the only that's the only thing I can think of. >> So, on that matter, there's a few other school districts that are looking into the same thing. Um and so it might be I don't know if I should out them in a [laughter] public. you don't have to name them, >> but but I can tell you their names later and that might be worth um talking with if that's what you're going to do. >> Um I believe some I've also talked to or just kind of like or Opus open canvas were just turning a blind

092eye at open campus. So it kind of depends on what >> what your um thinking on that. But yeah, I just wanted to throw that in. I have a lot to say. For sure. >> I struggle with the idea of going, "Okay, it's banned bellto bell even during meal periods, but staff uh I I don't want to put any position anybody in a position to, you know, be actively going against the board policy." So, um I just don't think it's good precedent to set. Um, so I think if we want to take that stance and we feel like it's it's legally sound, um, that that's something that we could explore. This is part of the question, you know, maybe parents will overwhelmingly say, you know what, maybe it would be better if they didn't have

093them during meal periods because so they can fully concentrate on learning. That's that's where the community piece comes into it. But it's a little delicate to get in a room with the community and it's it's see but I I may get a call after tonight from somebody, you know, um saying, "Hey, I hear you're trying to be creative with the um you know, finding loopholes in the executive order." But um and I've said this many times, the legislature tried to take this up five months and couldn't figure it out. Um and so um here we are. I would dare the legislator to have to not have their cell phones from bell to bell in the legis. >> The legislators did not pass this. The governor is the person who passed. All the legislators I'm just

094going to say this is why I we had school um students um write letters to the legislature to um oppose this. I personally can't tell you how many legislators I talked to and there was not able to do a consensus. It was the legislators believed that it should be left up to the schools to figure out what is best for their students and communities when it came to cell phones. The governor decided that since it didn't pass, she would pass it. So, I'm most of the time I'm ready to throw the legislators under the bus, but this time I'm not going to because they listen to me. [laughter] and our students and I want to thank them for doing that. >> I think what we've got already in place for the elementary school is basically

095what they're saying and the middle school >> and the middle school. So just the high school and if we're raising young adults >> to be live in an adult world, >> I think this is pretty and just the statistics of where these phones are going to be and locked up and grouped together and then you know given out like medicine or whatever. It's just a nightmare. >> Yeah. >> Thinking about it, >> we can say you got to keep it in your backpack, you know. Um, so you know the thing I like is this this does I think give a little more teeth to the efforts from last year in terms of non-neal periods. So >> um so I like that we were able to have that discussion about you know what's worked and what

096hasn't worked and I think we all agree that you know uh we need to limit distractions so kids can learn in class. That's that's that's a no-brainer. My question is what is like what is the disciplinarian action? We're gonna remove students from learning because they have their phones on them. >> Not allowed to do that. Yeah. >> I mean that's good. But then like where did that leave anybody? >> Well just as a so as an example here's what the policy says. Says the first instance staff will give the student a verbal reminder. >> Okay. Um so it would be that's what we have to we have to be that specific in the policy. So, we have to say what happens if you don't. And [clears throat] this this is pretty I don't know if

097you had a chance to read this. Did you have a chance to read through this policy? >> I looked over. >> Okay. I would love doesn't have to be right now, but just how closely does this what's in this draft match what you all are doing now? Um, in terms of when you you know catch kids with their phone in class. >> Yeah, it's it's it's pretty >> okay. >> In line. >> Okay. Okay. Great. >> So, I I felt this way for a long time and I think I've said it before, but I feel like our job is to get students ready for college and career. >> There's no, as far as I know, there is no career where you cannot have your phone during lunch or break. >> And I mean, there might

098be some, but most careers. And if you're traveling like on a bus, like if you're traveling on a on a job, I have not seen any career say you cannot have your phone at the airport while you're traveling for a business meeting. So I feel like if our job is for to prepare our students for college and career, this is not what the real life is. I've talked to some college professors and they are concerned like you're taking the phone away from them and you're not teaching them especially when you have it unlocked boxes you're not teaching them >> how does that work and so that is one of my concerns and then I am taking off all my other board all my other board hats I have not pace on I have not coming

099up president um what happens If we don't pass it, >> as far as I know, >> understand since there was no rules, there are no consequences if we don't pass it. >> If there was consequences to come along, it would be division 22. I've talked with some people and um we would have a year to pass it, which would give us more time to figure out and see what other schools are doing. Um, so I'm just throwing that out there >> because um I don't know if we want to be the rebels, but um >> well, we can ask council that. So yeah, that >> I have talked to um some people that are lawyers and uh they I said what happens and they said same as division 22. I I'm just going to tell

100you in a lot of people don't want to really say it, but this is not a great this this um executive order does not follow what a policy usually follows. It's having boards boards overstep what they usually do. It's having them do things that is usually up to staff and principles. It is it seems to the opinion of some is it seems to be a rushed statement not a thorough and if we couldn't figure this out in five months I really just struggled with just passing something that really smart people were in rooms talking about this for five months and could not come up with something that would was a onesizefits all and I really I strongly feel this is unfunded mandate and it's taking away local control. >> Yeah. >> I'm guessing Kaitlin, you

101don't have parents beating down your door saying we want our kids not to have their phones at lunch. I'm guessing >> you [clears throat] are correct. I'm guessing that's not the case. Have you heard Have you heard anything from students or parents so far about the executive order so far this school year? Sorry I put you on the spot, but I think we're talking about your school. So >> um so we haven't heard a lot of feedback from um parents since our inerson registration event. There were a lot of questions at that event because we did we asked families to sign um our just acknowledgement of our procedures around cell phones because >> they're personal property and that gets kind of touchy. Um so there were questions about that when we told them that we

102were moving slow um and getting some information. and they were thankful for that. Um, there were a couple of parents who mentioned like, "Well, you already asked us how we feel about this and we told you kind of a deal." >> Um, and that's pretty much it. >> Okay. >> There's a lot students have a lot to say about it. >> Sure. Yeah. >> I'm sure >> I'm guessing they're not like excited about this or am I wrong? >> Students or parents? >> The students. >> Um, students are concerned about it. They feel students that I've talked to feel like overall uh they're doing a really good job with the parameters that have been set set in place. They feel like the con consequences um are fair and that everyone's on the same page. They're

103worried about uh mostly upper classmen are really worried about work and not being able to hold a [clears throat] job because their employers get a hold of them to cover shifts or you know different things like that and they'll be seen as unavailable and they'll be passed over for those opportunities. Um I have several students who just like you described are in charge of their younger siblings sometimes even child care, right? like, oh, your, you know, second grade sister is sick. I need you to pick her up from school and stay home >> while I finish out my shift, right? That's there's no contact around that. >> I will say I think I mean obviously we have front offices, we run notes, those systems still exist. >> Um, but yeah, that direct line is really

104helpful for kids and >> um families. >> Do you expect and you can answer this next meeting. Do you expect the time to go up? What do you have any like clue of what the time would go up? Because I know you have the person answering the phone does more than answer the phone, I'm assuming. Right. And so their time of taking in. Do you have any idea what that would mean per like unfunded mandate on how much more money that's going to cost to implement this? >> I don't have a number around that. I mean definitely that would increase um like especially if something like locked pouches >> or are the way we go >> because Yeah. >> Thank you. Thoughts on lost p locked pouches? >> It's personal property. >> Yeah. When do

105we have a right to take a kid's personal property and lock it up unavailable to them >> and give it back to them? You know, I mean, it seems like it's way overstepping >> what the school really should have a right to do, >> you know? I mean, we can't take an offensive t-shirt away from them and lock it up in a locked pouch, can we? I mean, >> we could do other things like that. [laughter] >> It just seems like if we're trying to raise responsible adults in a school system, where do we quit? >> Something to consider. If we, you know, put something so overt in our policy, it's gonna get picked up and it's gonna be talked about. So, uh, Let's say in other districts that I've seen with like locked pouches

106and things like that, students are innovative. They're going to figure out a way to get in there. >> They usually do. >> Like I said at one of the meetings, my son is one of those that the principles probably was not enjoying, but he probably would come up with a system um because you know now some cars you can unlock by your phone. come up with a system where he'd charge a dollar to keep your your his phone your phone in his car and charge it. I mean, he actually said, "Oh, Bobby, I set up chargers and all this stuff." He is no longer going to have to worry about it. But I can't have the only son that would be doing that, right? So, the upper classmen are going to all keep their phones

107in their cars, I'm guessing, and at lunch go out there. The people that have upper classman friends are probably going to do the same thing. like how do you stop it except you close campus? And then back to you, that's one of my other concerns is if we come up with an with a exception for lunches, I'm fine with that. But my concern is when they look at that, they'll go, okay, so all these schools have accepted this policy. It was great. and they're not looking at well the the school's not actually following the so to me like do we want to do that or do we want to say look this is not a great policy this is not a great thing I don't know it's putting up on the edge something to seriously

108think about but I do have concerns on passing something that works for us when it's not being followed and then you know what happens throughout the state I don't know. There's a lot. I've been thinking about this for a long time and I can't tell you how many podcasts I've listened to about cell phones in schools. >> You listen to those on your phone? >> No, actually my radio that six hours to get to the retreat and back. And so when I'm driving, there's many times I am driving 5 hours to go to OSBA events and I have plenty of time to listen to podcasts. >> Um, [laughter] so here here's what I think. I think we know from our families what they what their desires are. Um, if we want to schedule something, we

109can. I think we know what what they're going to say. >> Put something out that says like we're discussing this. you can write your input. I mean, >> I I was thinking about I would love to have some data on like how does your does your high school student provide care for a younger sib? Um, does your high school student work? Um, you know, how many I don't know what the number is. I don't know if we know that, but it would be it would be it would be interesting to have that data because here's the thing. We're not talking about this because we're just mad at the governor and want to go against the executive order. Um, see co for times that we followed executive orders. So, it's not about that. I think there's

110a real educational case to be made here. And I think if we can spend the next couple weeks gathering some The problem is I don't know who's going to fill it out, but I would I would love to know how many of our students work and and care for younger siblings. Um, that's a thought. >> Well, and at OSBA there was other thoughts of, you know, parents not speaking the language. I think we do have good uh good staff that does help with that. But concerns of that, concerns of, you know, family issues or, you know, sometimes there's some serious family things going on where they need to get a hold of each other um quickly. Um, and so it's this one's really hard for me because I keep on thinking is this best for

111students and I keep on going I don't think so. I don't know. >> Have you seen the information on the launch of the new Apple AirPods that are that will translate in real time? >> Yes. >> Do you know the the possibilities for those for our EL students? Imagine a EL student can wear those and and what they're hearing in English is instantly translated for them. I mean, >> yeah, >> you know, so I just Yeah. Go ahead. >> We we have devices like that also. And I think that that's kind of that's another concern, sorry, of parents is like, oh, well, versus phones, what is it? >> Right. >> I know that's kind of like gateway. >> Yeah. Right. I think your whole survey idea is a great idea, but I think instead of

112giving it to parents, we should do that with students >> and send out a survey to students asking if they care for a student or younger siblings or if they, you know, have a job or >> like the impact coming directly from them, how that will impact them. >> I like that. Is there time to do that in like an advisory class the next two weeks? Two questions serving. Do you care for a younger sibling and do you work? >> Could we do that? [laughter] >> We can have them. >> Do we have to have them use their Chromebooks for that or for [laughter] >> There you go. >> You know, some kids are taking college classes. They need their phone for double. Some teachers need their phone to log into the email on I

113mean sometimes I need my phone to log into the email. >> I need my phone just to get into my Chromebook. >> Yeah. Like I need to send me a verification file. >> And if you don't do that then that's a pays liability and then you don't have as much insurance. Yeah. It's just >> So here's what I I like the idea. if that I didn't come here intending to give you a bunch of more work, Kaylin, but um but um and I'm I can write it. It could be a Google survey. Um so two question um thing. I I would just love to have that data that would probably back us up a bit to help make the case and then I would love to get some input from legal and then make then

114we I think we take that present it all back with updated language. I don't really love the draft policy as it stands. Um to consider for the second and go from there. Yes. >> Can I just ask a clarifying question? Okay. So, you would like me to make a two question Google survey sent out to advisories >> and have them do that within the next two weeks. So, probably next Wednesday. >> Yeah. Is that is that possible? >> Yes. And can you tell me exactly what two questions you'd like? >> Um do you care for a younger sibling? >> Okay. And do you work? However you want to phrase that in a better way, but >> you depend on your phone for either one of those things. >> Yeah. I mean, >> yeah, I think

115>> also workshop those things. >> Yeah. I think I think there's an element of like control you want to have with the survey because kids are smart and they're going to figure out what we're getting at here. So, I'm I'm really just interested in that like you know um um and then um you know there's probably a million other questions your point about thinking of it but I think that's that's the biggest one for me is >> do we want to have Joe put something out that the board is discussing this and so that I mean I'm opening me up for angry emails right now but um is that something we want to put out that we will be discussing this the next meeting and because I saw a staff member, I think everybody knows

116who to talk about and um she posted something on Facebook. People were talking about it and I said, "We're going to be talking about this soon. You might want to just email the board." And she's like, "Oh, I didn't know." And so I'm wondering if we want just to let people know that now is the time because once you pass it and they find out, then they're calling Kayn >> and saying, [laughter] "Oh my gosh." And then it's I don't know. I I don't I'm trying to think of a way that would make less phone calls for staff and we can put the more burden on us because I think that was kind of what the meaning of this policy was is to put the burden on the school board so staff >> wouldn't take

117the burden but >> well yeah except like no >> like the exception thing where you got to do it individually you know so >> and enforcement at punch and etc. So, um >> I had just been told that the reason it was written like this is so that the that this people the people would blame the school board and not the staff or policy. >> Sure. That part that part I support, you know, I think that I think that's great. Um >> um okay. Anything else? What about what about student advisory? um council Kaitlin is that I mean I think the survey kind of is takes that to a bigger level. So >> transparently have not had the opportunity to establish advisory. >> Well, let's send out the survey then going to go to all

118students. Yeah. Okay. >> Maybe your idea of a QR code on a poster >> in the real survey is not a big deal. >> Okay. And then we do have student reps. Hopefully they'll be here the next time and be able to talk about that. And we are voting at the day at the school. So that gives students opportunities. I hate to say that because I don't want them to skip class just to say something. But >> what's the calendar look like on the 16th? [laughter] >> That's great. >> What do you call short? What do they call short day? Is the parking lot still not within the school's jurisdiction? Is it >> not? >> Is it still Jackie County or something like that? >> I mean, >> yeah, our parking lot schools. >> Our

119parking lot is not part of the campus. >> It is part of you can park outside the campus on the street. >> Okay. because there isn't something that can say >> off-campus, you know, that that's the exception that we can make an we can make a rule about school property. And there's one school that is doing that. They're going to allow it um in the parking lots. >> They're saying it's off campus and >> off-campus is the front door. But again, you know, we have all these schools doing different their different version of what helps their students and I applaud them. But >> yeah, I mean, everyone's trying to do their best. >> Yeah. >> For their students in their schools. >> Yep. >> All right. Good discussion. We have some good direction. Thank you

120for um for your willingness to >> almost and uh yeah, I mean this and this is exactly it, right? Normally we wouldn't be dictating to a principal like go do something. Normally that's your job, but we've been tasked with that now. So um all right, we're going to take a recess for eight minutes. Thank you all for being here. Have a good night for 2627. 2627. >> That is right. Oh my gosh. Okay. Jeez. >> What? >> So, as stated before, this is similar to a budget calendar we've had in the past and >> um followed that those date. >> Okay. Very good. Uh do I have a motion? >> I move to accept the budget calendar 26 27. >> Thank you, Diana. I will second it. Don. >> Thank you, Don. Discussion. Um, oh,

121I should take this moment to This is budget adjacent, but you may have noticed a little while ago we had budget committee uh members on the agenda. >> Yeah, >> we had two that couldn't make it and one we weren't sure. So, I just told Denise, we'll do it when everybody we have time to interview budget committee applicants. So, um, I told her we'll do it when everybody can come. >> Three. >> So, >> and we got three that >> three open, I think. >> Three open three of us. >> And we may actually have more because we had our EDI committee meeting and we know that there's families on that that uh when those come open, we may have more if there's some of those members that want to apply for budget committee. >>

122Awesome. >> That'd be great. That that's another thing. I mean, I'd like to have if there's a competition for it, that's fantastic. So, okay. >> And council, the >> we're all on the budget committee, too. >> Correct. >> Okay. Yeah. Yep. >> Okay. I'm going to start with Nancy. We're voting on the calendar for 2627 budget. >> Yes. >> Diana, >> yes. >> Don, >> yes. >> Rebecca, >> yes. >> I vote yes. >> Uh, legislative policy committee nomination. Um, have we heard from anyone who wants to do this from our board? >> I cannot. >> I have asked a few people on our board and all of them um said no. >> Okay. >> So, if there's someone that wants to, now is the time to say it. >> Um, >> and I would

123love to nominate them if I knew, but everybody I asked kind of >> quickly said, "I don't think so. Nancy, [laughter] >> you're gonna nominate me. >> No, [laughter] I'm just I'm just asking. I don't know if I asked you. I know I asked a few other people and I can't remember if I asked you or not if you wanted to do um LPC, but there's there's going to be quite a few nominations from other boards. Yeah, I was going to say I'm not sure what the 10 commitment is that. Um, and I was also kudos to you, Don, because there's been a couple of other board members that I've talked to and they've said that they've connected with you. >> I'm so sorry. The game is getting good. um and they're interested um in

124possibly uh attorney LBC, but at this moment I don't I'm not I don't think that I am. >> Okay. I just wanted to make sure that you had the option to say >> when do we have to do this by >> now? Oh, it has to be done by today. >> What? Yeah, we would need to >> I think it's due at the end too. They need to say month, but we'd have we'd have to vote on it today. >> Okay. >> I can tell you >> there is another board meeting, at least one board meeting happening right now that people are being nominated at. >> Okay. >> Um I think uh I'm trying to make sure I'm making it fair that all the boards know this. So I think they all do. Um some

125boards are nominating this month. I was invited to Eagle Point a couple months ago. The superintendent asked me to come to Eagle Point. He asked about this. I said I can come talk. Then um a member called me today and then their board secretary asked me to come. So I'm going to their meeting next week to answer any questions they have. But I do know that there's several people that are interested in it. We could also if there's somebody you know, you don't have to nominate your own board member. You could nominate someone from another board, >> but I don't >> no one has asked me to nominate them. Yeah. >> For instance, Jose was nominated. he when he was sent to the board of directors, I don't think he he minds me sharing his

126um board have already like their meeting was over and so another neighboring board nominated him because >> um but I haven't heard from any um other like I have no nominations to get from anywhere down here. I know people are getting nominated from the boards though. Okay. So, this is a actually a good Robert's rules question. When we have So, we have an action item before us. >> Do we Does someone have to motion it and then not second it and it die? Do we do we nominate Donald Duck and then vote no? >> Because there is no nomination. >> Okay. So, we don't h we don't have to take action even. We don't even have to make a >> There's nothing to take action. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Love it. Thank you. >>

127I just made that up. But >> that makes sense to me. I think you're I think you're 100% correct. >> And you can also not move. There's no If no one makes a motion, then it dies automatically. I'm 99% sure. >> Cuz I don't even want to move to table cuz then we'll just >> We can't table it because it has to be in by the 28th or something like that. It has to be Yeah. The last day of September >> and move to table to October 1st. [laughter] >> Only October 1st. The guessing won't be taken up then. Okay. Um the 10 to agenda is there for your review. Um I'm just seeing if we have Oh, so we'll need to add Nope. We're not taking action on the sub policy. That's on information.

128>> So we have the waiver and then do you want to move the PTA back up to where we had >> Yeah, let's put it um after accentuates the posit. >> Yeah. Also just information if this is okay. >> Um >> the board of directors spot if anyone is interested in that will be open in October >> for our region. >> Okay. >> And that will be appointed and I think people are going to do that as well. And that one doesn't have to be appointed. You can just send in the resume >> to the board of directors. >> Oh the board of OSBA is going to make that appointment. Yes. Got it. >> Okay. Okay, I'm just putting that out there to be transparent >> real quick for the for the association report. When

129do we want that? Do we want should that go before citizens comments or after or >> um >> before the association? Would you prefer it go before your report so that >> like today you talked about you know they talked about soft start and you were able to respond. What if we put it just just after citizens comments? Sounds good. Okay. >> Oh yeah, I thought you said after. Yeah, we I just changed it on the fly just cuz that that way if you know Mr. Barry wanted to respond to anything you could you could do that. So, okay. All right. Anything else? We are journ. [clears throat] >> Good night everybody. >> Good night.

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