001for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Welcome everyone. Y Motion to approve the agenda as presented. >> Second motion to second the discussion. Hearing none Motion carry 760 comments. Do we have any >> We do not Communications written items. We got a saw a little thank you letter from Don Don Ber. >> Yes. Very nice. And next thing on the agenda is >> Yes, we have an administrative report here. Um Anastasia Morgan is our director and she is doing a very good job here and uh OB likes to do a report. I know we did a director report. We're doing this quarterly, but they have something they would like to do. We're going to sync up with that in the future. So, they're one of the
002is starting a quarterly report, but tonight Anastasia, you're on. >> All right. Thank you so much. Um, so my name is Anastasia. Most people just call me Anna except my dad. He's still practice. So, we'll just let we'll let him keep thinking. So, um, and like I said, I am really lucky to be called the director of this great district. Um, we're going to start with our business review today. OPA is currently in nine states with Missouri leading the pack at 110. Kansas with 65 and Oklahoma 44. I know you guys find this very interesting. Um, support team for the southeast Kansas district is going to be Rob Bon for the operations manager, Milin Wford the director of operations, Jack Cohen is going to be the business development, and Becky is a VP of operations.
003And speaking of lucky, I am really blessed to have the best team. They give 110% every single day and for the camera. So, I'm really really lucky. Um, our community or OPA is really big in community involvement and this year we've already done Grandparents Day at the elementary school. We've also done um Veterans Day at all three of our schools. We're working to utilize the activities um on the OPA program planner. They try to do activities throughout the year and also we are going to try to apply for a grant at the end of this school year even though all of our kitchens really have really great equipment and we're lucky. Um another thing we are really happy about all of our new menu items. The kids they'll come up to me like Oh my
004gosh. Not just our kids. I would like to point out some of our principles come up and say the best chili. Oh my gosh. So that's really awesome. Just just the new menu items alone. Um we do also have um our growth plan we would like to go over real quickly if you have a few. Just I don't want to take up a lot of your time but um So, our plan for the school year at the beginning of the school year was to increase breakfast, lunch, and all cart participation um to increase our breakfast um in the high school, the middle school and the high school. Um the middle school, we plan to work with Matt to get the second chance breakfast changed at the middle school. It's just they're so close together. It's
005kind of hard to get the the times change, but we're still working on that. Also, we did for the high school, we were planning to utilize the breakfast cart um to get a little more participation at the high school, which we started that in January and it is working like a charm. So, pretty happy about that. Also, we plan to increase lunch participation by utilizing the OPA program planner and maximizing activities each month. um also like to increase community activities working with coaches and athletic department to get the athletes fed. Um a lot of the time athletes try and I don't know if it's just making weight or what they just want to stick to certain foods or not eat at all don't have time. So that's something that's really important as well. Um and
006then also increase participation in all three buildings by working with our staff to remind them how important it is to remarkable service and keep a great attitude. Sometimes you're just so overwhelmed, you just want to get them fed so fast for just smiles. Um, at the beginning of the year, we had a we had set a goal for our breakfast program to have 35% participation. At the end of December, we did have 43% part participation um serving a total of 16 450 meals. Um we do currently have second chance breakfast in all three schools. Had a great execution of the OA breakfast week. Um we do need to make sure that we maximize our utilization of program planners and the elementary also has daycare breakfast that includes the toddlers. Um we like I said we
007didn't utilize we are utilizing a breakfast cart at the high school and we're still to change the second chance breakfast for the middle school. And then at the beginning of the school year, we had a goal of 75% particip participation for lunch. We are currently sitting at 67.4%. So we still do have a little bit of work to do on that. Um serving a total of 25,800 lunches this year so far. Um current programs, their national school lunch program. Um, we've got a great we've done a great job my girls I mean following the open menu which has been really tough because some of those menus are like restaurant I don't know things so but they're doing it with small um we did have really great participation during the national school lunch week brought out
008a lot of our new menu items. Had some tasting tables and the kids were pretty excited about that. All the little samples we gave out, that was a good time. Um, and our daycare also does include lunches that are also served to toddlers. Um, we would also like to keep the focus on getting staff to continue to eat. Um, and we need to improve on needs to improve getting staff in December and the balance of the year. Okay, so the next page, um I did talk to Christie a little bit about this. I know you guys do have a summer feeding program. Um Oakland does what's called um a non- congregate summer feeding program. Um and that is a summer free summer feeding program that provides free nutritional meals to children 18 and under during
009the summer. Meals can be picked up or delivered making it for amilies in the rural and hard to reach areas to access healthy food. Um the benefits it expands access to summer meals for students. It makes it easier for families to access meals despite transportation and time limitations and there is no cost in the district. It is federally reimbured and and it could provide 12,000 meals daily and up to $4,000 a month. So that's another option you could look at. Um so in summary we are sitting right now current well as of December current 43% participation um for breakfast 70 or 67.4% participation for lunch and we would like to thank you guys a lot for letting us into your district and it has really been a pleasure and the staff that you provided me
010with is just top notch. I could not thank you enough. So, thank you very much for your time. >> Thank you. We've heard great things from about so we appreciate you. >> Well, thank you. Thank you. >> Do we have numbers like how much those increased >> like the end of last year? >> I don't have them here, but I could get them for you. >> I just wondered like how much we've I mean I've heard I guess >> I think at the beginning of the year I shared with you some increases like from the first month or two of the school year. Haven't done anything since then because things have been going so well. >> So, but we could look at that. >> You don't have to increase. >> Yeah. Yeah. I was just
011curious. >> Um and then the grants I just wondered so if you buy equipment if you get have get grants is there specific equipment you're wanting to buy or >> um I with my managers on there on that. They're the ones that apply for the grants. >> Um, and then that equipment, >> is it belong to the district or does it belong to us? >> It belongs to the district. >> Okay. >> We we equip the buildings. >> Yep. >> I just didn't know what the new stuff purchased with the grant. >> No, the grant money is for the district. >> Thank you. We're hopeful for certain grants, but we don't always qualify. As you understand with our status, our financial status, it's hard for us to qualify for grants, but >> we will try.
012>> So, >> the grants are through KSD, through the child nutrition and wellness program. >> Okay. >> So, we would be gathering data um specific to our school district and then sub that way. >> So, Sounds interesting. Um, of course, and I don't know, but a lot of volunteers that so I'm curious this does somebody pay salaries to for somebody to do that or >> Yeah, it's it's the kitchen stuff >> similar to it's very similar to what we've done in years past. Yeah, we we've had a summer food service program that is coincides with the >> um the summer learning program as well as the 21st century summer program that's offered just at the elementary school. Um it is free to kids, one breakfast and one lunch. >> Um but we um we do
013a congregate model which means that we don't deliver. We have the kids >> come and have have the meal there at the school. However, outside kids can come and participate. So, they would come and have lunch or breakfast, but they're um at the elementary school before the program starts and there's some parameters that we that we put on that as far as time goes and then we submit for reimbursement for that for the state. >> Thank you. >> And if you would like to head on out to stay or you can You're up. >> I do want to talk a little bit about you or have a chance to first of all build right now so far. So that's been positive. Um but a big thing right now is that our 21st century grant is
014for request for proposal um to try to get granted for the next five years. Um so that's a pretty intense process and we're paying somebody to like write the grant. It still requires a lot on my end to get that up and going. So working on that with I think shivers is his last name Bush. Um so a couple things that we're looking to propose as changes to our We have some surveys out that they put together for us. Um, but we've talked about number one, I mean, the lady that's kind of in charge of grants agreement have all and our evaluators have all been very upfront like saying we need to have a plan in case we don't get granted because we've already had like at least three cycles. And so like one of
015the points of 21st century funding is for you to be developing a sustainability plan as you have that Um, so I just want to put that out there like I think as a board, you know, like you need to be thinking like what if because even let's just say we don't get it regranted and we decide that we still need that service. Um, I mean we can increase fees but like that's still fine if you have to pay the people and if you're not going to pay the people we're not going to have a program, right? So I'm just, you know, saying that. Um but um a couple changes that we talked about including in our proposal this year that's a little bit different um than how our program has been going is number one
016like we are pretty much an open enrollment program right now which means um on any given day any number of kids can show up to our program. Um and like not so much this year but like last year we were nearing 100 kids a day which is really hard to plan for and also when you are limited to six staff that's a lot of kids in a group. Um, so there's several programs that just like set a fixed number of slots for their program. Um, so I've been in a communication with a program. She's doesn't work for her program anymore because she actually works for the state agency. Um, but like you know she just shared like at their school they did like 12 slots per grade level and then like then there was a
017weight list and they would determine you know she kind of shared their process. The benefit to that number one, one of the reasons I think that we should move our grant forward this way is um I'm really struggling this year more than any year that I've worked here to get people to teach in my program. We are working under our staff like we have to say what our staff ratio is in our grant. I'm pretty much under ratio every day in my program. Um so because if you don't know if you're teaching 22 kids or 12 kids intersection, it's really hard. It's also just a lot to manage in the after school hours. So, I personally think as a director um the last time we were here is like I think that's a direction that
018we should go um just because I think if like in the summer we basically say like enrollment's open and it's shut and we don't take anybody after we do that. We know every day we're going to have as safe as 40 kids. The teachers can plan for those kids. we know what we're having and it just, you know, like everybody that works summer like it's so much better because we know exactly the maximum number of kids we're going to have. I think that would improve our school time program for our staffing. Um, so I guess I would just like to know if that would be the change that you could support as we try to move this grant forward. Number two, um, I think our data would really support this. I haven't had a chance
019to hold that, but I would really strongly recommend our program going to program. That's very common in um a lot of schools. We run our program actually more than most places. A lot of places don't start their program until like well into September and they close it at the end of April. We start our program on day one of school and we end our program on the last day that we're in session. Um but as I said staffing is a problem and right now so I was supposed to run three teachers every day and three parents every day on Fridays. For the last two years it's been myself teaching and teaching. So, two and then like this year I have two pairs that work Friday. Nobody wants to work on Fridays and our attendance is
020lower on Fridays because a lot of kids just go home. So, I feel like there is less that they need. I'm not saying there aren't some kids there on Fridays that probably still need that place to go. But when I consulted with Lupus about this, um I just think if you want to have if we want to continue to say like we're having a quality program, we really have to our program and it's really hard to say you have a quality program when you only have two people willing to teach on that day in my opinion. So I also would recommend that our program only move forward four days a week in our request. Um and then just another change is that federal mandate is that no fees can be collected for programs next year.
021So like it's free. The only funding source we will have is the grant. We have the fees based program forever. I mean, as long as I've been here and I'm sure that which has given us some discretionary money for like field trips or like for our cooking because you can't you're like really limited on like using money on food. And so, um I mean I've got to really start trying to find some people to give us some inind support or some letters of support with some monetary backing so that we'll have some more discretionary money because without any fees, our budget is going to be very tight on that. So, um if you have suggestions of um people to for me to reach out to, I mean, we've had several letters of sponsorship the last
022many grants, but just that'll be something that we're looking for. So, >> would you start this next year then? So, >> if we get granted, we like on we had a zoom call. They had actual inerson meetings and we get a superintendent interview. So, I one of those they had a zoom last week. Um the state just go over like all the requirements for request for proposal. Um we will not find out until like June 10th if we get granted. So our grades are like I want to say there isn't back here May 24th and we won't know until June if we would get awarded. So to me like you got a plan. I concern support what you want to do but what everybody else thinks. >> I mean as far as I'm concerned with
023what you have listed here. You're the director for this. So you think this is what we need to do. >> Well, yeah. But if we don't get the grant, we have to get the we don't get the grant then. >> Yeah. I mean, we would have to decide if there's going to be some supplemental funding, but like let's just Hypothetically, we charge $5 a day per kid. I mean, we've always done a per family charge, but let's just say $5 a kid. Right now, we're averaging about 60 kids a day. You're bringing in $300 a day times five days, which we don't get 60 kids all the days. Okay. So, it's $1,500 a week. We we were paying our staff and we're low our pay. That's one of the things we'll be working to increase
024in our request from council. I think it's 2 an hour. So again, three staff and repairs get $12 an hour. Plus, I get a director's. I mean, we're not going to make enough off these to pay for all that. So, plus whatever we need in supplies, so on and so forth. So, there would have to be if we don't get a grant, there's going to have to be a financial commitment from the district or we're just going to have to say we don't have after school program in the future. Again, we're not going to know that till June. So I don't know how that impacts budgeting for the next year but it is something to be thinking about. >> So ballpark figure if we have to fund it >> what my worth this year the
025way they do the grants like every year so like this year like we might get the first year 120,000 and then they start tearing it down. So this year I want to say we're down to like 80 something maybe. >> I think you're at 67,000. >> Don't quote us on an exact number because this is >> I mean I would have to get out my book but like this year our funding is basically >> we need about 80,000. >> This year our funding only covers staffing like there's nothing else. >> We need to go higher. >> Yeah. I wouldn't go less than 80. And the reason I say that is I mean again The thing with if we're self-funded and we're not bound by some of the federal guidelines that will help >> it will
026help and it won't help, >> right? >> It will help in terms of like we are we are there's stipulations that we have to spend those monies on now like we have to pay for an evaluator to come in and that's a pretty significant and we have to pay for some other things. We two people. That's I mean that's a big expense. We wouldn't have to do that if we're not granted. >> You're talking 10% of your budget right there. >> Plus plus to keep track of like there's another program that we utilize to like track student attendance and things like that. >> But you won't need that anymore because we won't have fees. Like the reason we've got that is because the accounting side was way too time in the way it had been
027set up before. So even like we won't even put that in our budget this year because actually talk to about using Skyboard or you can make a Google sheet like because I have to report like the reports that I have to do for February reporting I have to turn in for every kid that ever attends our program to the nearest square hour how long they're in our program I mean there is a lot of data on you know like as fine but I mean there's a lot more to it than just like doing some after school care when you're receiving federal dollars is significant reporting >> would also help with all of these things that Darl was suggesting too with like minimizing because the bulk of what you're paying out is going to be after
028those things is going to be your salaries. >> So that's I was going to ask we just threw out 80,000 obviously that not a solid number but are we talking 80,000 to keep things the way they are or 80,000 after reducing to 12 per grade and four days a week? >> Well, you're still probably going to need three teachers and three parents for >> that's fine. >> If you had 12 kids and The other thing that we're actually doing a survey on right now is to considering and I didn't get this on here because I found this out after I did the online zoom but like for us that apply as a program that's trying to reprint we have to have two new components in our program. If you don't have two new components your
029applications out so listening to some of the ideas they're not like we're considering proposing to go out fifth grade and travel down and join our program. So that would add another grade level. So, I mean, you're not going to staff it with less people. I mean, >> okay. >> And even though like wouldn't have to pay for the conferences and whatever, but then those discretionary funds of field trips and food for the cooking class and like all those things. I just >> But you're also going to have to do something to incentivize to help help with it. That's been a huge thing. >> Yeah. >> I don't even know if the like offer part times on like Monday, Tuesday, Sunday. >> Yeah. I literally work on like you want to work Monday, Tuesday, great. You
030I mean I mean seriously we've actually even like this year we got permission to try to hire a high school kid. I mean that's not written into the grant like you're not supposed like we have to list like what we think the qualifications of our worker is and that's just another thing like food for thought. Um Like so in the past like it's pretty much been written by the principal but he's the director and so you have to have a masters or be in education and Chris was very specific this time and saying I mean I'm not saying I'm leaving but you know they're like if that's not what it's really going to be forever don't put it in there list qualifications so that you have the flexibility to like I think as the money
031is getting tighter at the federal level they're really cranking down making sure you're complying with whatever is listed in the paperwork um so I'll be working with the grant writer on um staffing is really becoming a challenge. >> Thanks for that information. I think we certainly just need to keep an eye on it for budget time when it comes. >> Yeah, I'm definitely align with these for predictability. I've got some that doesn't go full time to it and he's part of the influx, you know, because some days high, some days low and stuff and um and he does participate on Fridays and lo that day off would have no effect on us. Okay, that's fine. >> I think knowing like since I do so much work with attendance data, like I mean I could pretty
032much go down list and say like >> I mean do I think there are some kids that need the Friday service? Yes. Do I think it's the majority of those kids on Fridays? I do not. >> Anybody else have anything? >> Can you hire student teachers to be >> I can hire student teachers. I've had student teachers before. Um like last year we actually had Ivon Carter like get her EUB license so that she could teach the BA teacher position. You're supposed to be certified. >> Um so I mean we we've >> tried to do as many workounds as we can. >> I have a couple of teachers from the middle school. I usually get one or one for part of the year that will come work used to work for us but she doesn't
033anymore. Darling, thanks for giving us that information. >> Thanks for giving it to us early enough. >> Well, I'm an advocate. >> We need it. >> I really feel like we're I'm getting strongly advised by all the people that you work with. I mean, I think they just really want us to prepare that. I mean, we've really had this grant our share probably. And there's also um I'm sorry I'm taking a long time to talk about this, but there's also like priority points for the applications. Um so like if you're in a certain area of Kansas, you get some priority points on your application. And if you are looking for high school program, that gets some priority points. We don't qualify for any of the priorities. So again, that means there's already going to be
034applications that are going to probably rise above ours because we aren't meeting any of those priority points. >> So I mean, I think it's realistic. to be percolating back here like we may need to be coming up with a plan. >> Thank you. >> And I will second just really quick also I was I was helping with art Friday and Cooper was great like with the kids and just the interactions I saw was fantastic. >> Great. Okay. Thank you. Middle school. >> Is that your basketball tonight? Middle school basketball. >> Anybody have any question about report? >> Might be here. If not, you can let me know and I'll get those questions to you. Answer get your question. >> I learned a couple months ago I need to being more quiet at these things. >>
035Well, the first two already. >> I don't >> The only the only thing I'm going to say is uh January is obviously a very busy month. The high school, multitude of different things going on. So, just a little thing in my report was just thanking all the people that helped with all of the different things that were going on, whether it be people in our building, community members. We just we wouldn't be able to sustain and produce the type of level of hospitality that we have with all the different events that went on in January. So just a lot for Arian and I learned for next year as well, but just really thankful for all the people that showed out to help in a multitude different ways. So that's all I got. You guys have
036any questions for me? >> I don't have a question, but I want to give you guys kudos. Um I see you and Arian all the time at the basketball games and it's a to me it comes across it's a thankless job all the stuff that you're dealing with. You know, you've got all of our students you're trying to you know, excited, but within reason. I know how that is. You have another school who may or may not, you know, enjoy being in our building. You know, you've got middle schoolers running around. You've got parents, you know, whatever. I mean, just the other day we were there and I pointed out to AR, hey, one of the one of the urinal isn't flushing appropriately. And she immediately ran off to go take care of it. It
037just seemed like it's non-stop. I just want to say thank you to you guys when you're dealing with that sort of stuff. >> I know you guys do it all day long, but doing it normal working hours is just a step above in my head. So, >> thank you. And we do have some rowdy kids in the front row that I have to >> Yeah, I understand. >> Yeah, I was going to say I sometimes hear about those conversations after >> that. Okay. Anybody have anything else for me? Thank you. >> Thank you, Lindsay. >> Um, just got a big thing coming up next week. Joe and I are going to the state leadership conference. It's the special ed association of administrators conference winter conference. I'm actually presenting at it this year, so it's pretty
038exciting for me. >> Um, yeah. So, been working on that presentation pretty hardcore, but um, so that's coming up actually the 24th, but that learn lots of stuff to bring back. >> What's your presentation on >> alternatives to alternative education? >> In conception, >> it's called build it. If you build it, they will come. >> There's baseball. >> I did. >> So, um, questions. I know you kind of read, but you know, people come in and out. So, how are we doing on staffing? >> Staffing? Um, pretty decent actually. Elementary, we've gotten some good hires. Um, we got a hire at the high school and then we had one come back, moved off to the state. Um, but we were able to plug right back in and so his turnaround time, he came in last
039Friday and I think he's starting this week. So, that turn around time was quick. Um, outer districts are doing pretty good, too. So, we're we're pretty good. Where's your conference at? >> Where's the conference at? >> Which one? >> Well, good luck. Thank you, >> Mr. Fine. >> Any questions for Craig? That was easy. >> I I guess I will say we were not alone with uh fishing and scamming packs. Uh the state of Kansas even sent out to all the school districts that um lots of school districts were having it happen in the past week, especially over a 36-hour period. and um we've taken steps to do better and that uh I will send information out to you if you would like to set up MFA on your school email account how you can
040do that if you wish to victim >> she clicked a link it was came from a staff member she thought oh yeah Thank you. >> Great. >> Kind of tying in with that Craig's information there. So, Dr. Watson and I still keep in touch and text and call back and forth. Anyway, 6:00 in the morning one day, a week ago, I get an email from him saying, "I think you might be back from one of one of your students." One of our students sent Dr. Watson an email file. And I said, "Sorry, Dr. Watson. Long story short, there it's happening all over. It's really It's kind of sad. Sorry. Uh my report just a lot of different uh legislative information uh goals from the K from KB as well as from KSDE and just be
041in tune with legislative type comingings and goings, things that are happening so on so forth. Again, a lot of different things, some different uh just reminder about some different bills that have been, you know, kind of discussed and kicked around. You know, the cell phone bill in terms of what's going to happen in school districts, you know, talking starting school after Labor Day and ending before Memorial Day. That's happening as well for some discussions requiring children to be toilet trained to enroll in kindergarten to attend kindergarten. Um, another bill that's popped out is requiring 30 minutes of recess, daily recess for Kansas student or schools in Kansas school districts K through five. So again, um there's a lot of different things that are happening and and some of them are good and some of them
042are infringing in my opinion on local control and what we should be doing. So like for example in Burlington Middle School, we have kids have PE every day. There are some districts that don't have kids that have PE every day. So is 30 minutes a day for you know recess for one district the same as others? Maybe yes, maybe no. Just depends on the situation. So anyways, um there's a lot of different bills around and uh we'll see what happens. Information from what I understand and from what we're gathering from different people, different colleagues, they would like to shut down the uh session on time this year because they've got some campaigning to do. All representatives are up for election as well as there's a governor race. So, there's some people in uh in legislature
043that are running for governor. So, having said that, they want to get home so they can start campaigning so they can get reelected. So, we'll see what happens. But again, I'm cont continuing to stay in touch with Brad Barrett, our local representative, as well as Karen Tyson, our state senator that represents Burlington. So, um, again, I try to be nice and say, "Hey, this is how this would affect Burlington." I don't tell them to vote yes or vote no, but I tell them how it can affect and impact Burlington so that at least they hear from me. And then there's a whole list of dates coming up, uh, some hot dates, some, you know, things to remember from February, March, April, and May. And, um, that's my report. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay, moving
044on to border reports. I think we have draft survey and then we have different. >> Yes. So, >> we have two different surveys that they give you. >> So, kind of just so you understand what what we did. Darla Fred Coolman and I looked over um some information board had some survey some really good survey questions. So, you'll notice that there is a draft, and that draft is the one I'm going to say we're going to work off of. It's the one that you look up at the top. It says USD244, the facilities and priorities survey. So, that's the one we're going to work off of. And if there's if there's questions from the draft that I Nolan spent some time and maybe even connected with Selena and James on as well, just outside and
045kind of worked on. If there's some questions from that that document that you want added into there, just let us know. Um, again, that we added like question four doesn't have the boxes. We're we'll doctor that so that it's a check mark box for on a Microsoft form for we can send out the link to people. So, don't worry so much about the format where you see some dots on some questions. We'll make it a check mark interact or an active type box there. So, I hope I'm making sense there. Take the draft. That's what we're working off of. And if there's anything you want to add from the questions that uh that uh were discussed, you know, that Nolan gave me as a document, let me know. So, just give me the numbers, if
046you will, the questions that you may want to ask. >> So, this is just homework to take home and get back to you. >> I'd like to do like to do it now. If you want to get it out sooner than sooner than sooner than later, if you if you want to if you want to email that, there's two different ways you can do it. If you want to give me the numbers now, that's fine. If you want to do it by the end of the week, Friday, that's fine. Um, >> you want to be careful with the survey that you don't get too lengthy or people will say >> I um I like read on like >> Okay. >> I don't know. >> I think it's on the other one too. >> It's 11
047on the other >> 11. Okay. Thank you. >> That's what I was like trying to figure out which things are different. It's It's okay. That's probably Yeah, >> we we work through it carefully, too. >> For example, number four and number two. Four on Nolan's, two on the other. >> Correct. >> So, yeah, I just need a second to go through and Is it appropriate to have the um to put 45 million on construction elementary facilities? >> No, it's not because it will not do 45 million unless you take the project down quite a bit. So, for example, take the fifth grade out, take the bell cap, take four sections to three. See, we we that that's the only way we're getting back to 45 million number from what they told us. You're you're talking
048about a percent a quarter. So, about a 4% increase a year. >> Yeah, I would I would almost recommend removing the dollar amounts on there or summarizing it somewhere else. So, it's on question five, just knowing that That's not the number, >> right? >> And that implies that it's the same thing someone saw six months ago, whatever it was. >> They're going to correlate that 45. >> Yeah. Modified put 2025 something like that. That's not a number. >> Question. Is that what I'm hearing from the board? >> Either remove that or 2025. Okay. >> Uh something I mentioned with Greg on number seven. Uh and just because it's a survey and people are going to be fill out survey, but they're not going to know unless they have the paper from what that number is.
04915ear ball 20 year ball 25 year. Someone was in parentheses outside what it's gonna be. >> And this question is that again seven question seven >> just so they don't have to go reference another document unless you attach another. >> Well, yeah, but I don't know how what how they use that number if we don't have a dollar amount. >> I know. >> Is that what you're saying? >> Yes. Okay. >> Well, we could we could put the tax implication document on 34 million and 45 million, attach it to the survey, but I think it's going to be easier if we put it right out there. You want surveys to be You don't want people to spend 30 minutes because if they do if they see they're going to have to spend 30 minutes, they'll
050just move on. >> Can you just build it into the question? >> I I can do we'll be able to build it into the response. >> Does that make sense? >> What's the response? >> I'm sorry. >> Like could you just build it into the question and like after 15ear bond you put the information in the >> implications >> right there. Okay. I I see what you're saying now. I got it's right there next to it. >> Yep. >> Okay. On looking at this based on what I can tell the questions on Nolan's that are not on the other one are questions A and beyond. Well, and part of it you as a board talked to us in in the last time when we met last Monday in terms of we don't want to try
051to push a new building >> in terms of having that discussion right now. What we want to do is get the information out on a renovation because that's what the people seem to want. So, with that being said, if we put questions involving any questions involving a new building, it might be confusing to people and they What is it? We we we I think the survey you're wanting is to find out what's what's the people I mean people's interest really truly in that in the renovation piece. So, um >> I agree with that. I was just trying to say that if you're looking at the first seven questions on Nolan, they're on here. >> Yes. >> It's just they're in a weird order, so it's hard to see them. >> So, if you're going to
052look at this and try to say, "Hey, do any of these need to be on here?" It should really be questions 8 through 16 that we look at. >> Okay. >> How are How are we going to propose this survey? It's what's the population of the survey? Is it the people that attend the meetings or >> everyone? Everyone. We're going to get it out there in in the public. We will u social media hit it. Facebook um you know uh the website um through Skyward. What else Craig? Am I missing? >> We do it through. Yeah, we'll do it through Parents Square. >> I say Skyward Parent Square. Um, you know, I I don't know how quick of a turnaround you want. You could do it into the newspaper. >> We could. >> Um, I
053don't know whether the county would put something through their information system or not. >> We could ask them. Yeah. >> Old Everbridge um their main I could ask them. >> Put them on the table. Are we assuming they have >> honestly? Yeah. >> Are we assuming that they have >> Yeah. Yeah. There you go. QR code. >> Yes. >> I mean, are we assuming that they understand what the information is? >> Well, that's what we're here to doing this. Well, that's what the >> fall we had. We're going to want responses with not that many people actually being formally introduced to that. >> We'll probably try to because the when we were trying to pass the bond issue, we created a connection back to for more information, look at the website for additional information on
054the project. We put the flyer on there and any other additional and just information So we'll try to we can look at doing something like that. >> Hopefully we get one too the next week recently. >> Yes. But I I think this goes along with the same thing what we're trying to do. We're trying to listen to what the wants and this is the second step of listening to what the public wants. So they're going to >> Yeah, I think these amounts though I just don't like having the this 34 million and 45 million because the 34 million we just got right the 45 million that's not going to be 45 million. So I just feel like having these >> That's what no one was saying. No one. So let me let me emphasize. >>
055Yeah. But I'm just they it didn't sound like everybody agreed. >> I agree. >> Let let me emphasize that any number it can be any number. So for example, whatever you pass in in your community, then you figure out what you're going to do with that money. >> So the number Yeah. Then you adjust the project. So, let's say let's say the elementary we think it's going to cost 34 million to renovate that building and make it look essentially brand new like the library that's been renovated like the first grade link. Let's say the community gives us feedback that they're only willing to pass 25 million. If we can get 25 million bond issue, then we got to go in and pair that project down. >> So, maybe that's a question to ask. Can we
056get rid of these amounts? Because just like we were told at the first meeting, when we came out with this 34 million, that wasn't the same number they heard last year. And so where did we come up with this? Did we inflate this so that people are more in favor of the 45 >> that you know because a lot of these people aren't going that are going to do this have it come to >> well to get the information. So that's what I'm just saying like >> could we say something like 20 25 estimates are this amount >> because the last remodel amount was based on a light look through. This 34 is based on a deep look, >> right? But yeah, the people hear, >> you know, the the Rena. >> Yeah. They're going
057to hear what they want to hear and they're not going to hear they're going to hear zero because a lot of them don't come out. We we made it very we made it very clear at the meetings last year that 25 million was a a just a rough estimate because our direction was going towards a new building. That was all the feedback we were getting. It didn't make sense to do a renovation. So if you remember about 13 14 months ago before you guys passed the resolution last February to go to a bond issue remember we had construction company come in a couple of people and they explained to us you're looking about 25 million this is our best guess without doing a deep dive 25 million was a rough or very rough estimate >>
058that of doing maybe if you want to keep if y'all want to keep the numbers in saying renovation current elementary facility, >> you know, 2020 estimate >> 34 million and then like, you know, so it's >> would it be easier to stomach if we put a range? >> If we put in there renovation 30 to 35, new 45 to 50. >> Okay. >> Ask the questions. Well, we can put in 2026 estimates >> if you want to. >> Yeah. I think >> 45 million isn't a 2026. >> It's not that. >> Yes. >> Just so people know like this is a new this is a new number we've got and then this is a old number, >> right? So here's number that we have right now and you know we'll look at if we decide
059which way we're going to go, we're going to look at it again. I think yeah, if we're want to keep the survey focused on the renovation, which is what we discussed, then I think this works because I think the the one that we have here is enough similar to what Nolan had. All the questions aren't the same thing. There's really only a few questions in here that get so like for example 10 A or sorry, question 10, it gets down into the weeds of like parts of this do you think are good and which aren't? >> And if I'm being 100% honest with you, I want that opinion from the people that are in the building that are dealing with it every day. I want Darla to tell me. I want the teachers to tell
060me. >> And it's no offense to all the civilians out there, but they don't know which of these things is the most important to the people that are in that building every day. >> So, they've got to understand that the people using the building need to make those final decisions. If it comes out that we can only spend we can get them to approve 25 then I want Darla and whatever group she comes up with to be the one that tells us okay we can live without this we can live without this this has to happen kind of thing. So, I don't like necessarily having a question like that in there. >> But you also you also have to go if they're only going to give 25 and that's not an acceptable remodel based on
061our input from our facilities, you know, saying, you know, we can't do enough good with 25 million to make this project as wild and we don't move it to the next phase. >> But I think that's when you come back and they say, we give you 25 more. We're going to have cut this. We're going to cut this. We're going to cut this. >> Aren't you getting Aren't you getting a vote of approval for the $20? Aren't we at that point? We've already gotten approval or we're just saying public opinion. >> Yeah, we could easily come out to back and say the general standing from what we got from the public was you guys would only support 25 billion. We don't believe that's going to fulfill the needs for the next 30 years. we don't
062financially viable and we're not going to pursue this option going forward. >> I mean, I think you're going to get information from the survey and hopefully from the next three community meetings that will help us guide, you know, some direction coming up in March and April. That's the hope. And that information could lead possibly to maybe a shorter second survey >> where you're talking about some some is it this or that? It could lead to that. So >> yeah, I don't want to, but I just remember when we had our community discussions last time we got down to where we had people who were like, well, I don't think that's important because my kid never needed that. And that wasn't a thing when I was in school, so it's not important now. And like I
063said, they don't understand the needs of how things have changed. >> Maybe we do have to get into some of that later, but as a first, >> but I think that's I think that's a little bit what no one was talking about. So they can come in and say, "We don't need this." And our job is explain why that >> I agree, but not survey. >> No, no, not right. But again, this is this is a I still say this is the second part of the listening tour. >> I want to get feedback really because we're not pushing anything out right now. We're just saying, "Hey, give me what you want." >> Well, and what's the best when when do we think we're going to do this survey? >> Space out. >> As soon as
064possible. >> We did only have two people come to the last meeting. If anybody is watching, please come to the next meeting. But we got some feedback that I mean some of it put me on my heels, things that I didn't expect to hear. So I mean I I want to hear that. Um, another idea that just made me think of it like when you said put flyers with QR codes, but like um, yeah, I guess we don't have if we do it before in the next two weeks, I guess, but like up at the high school out in the comments, you know, like they've got those little table >> things where you put the little >> um, well, I was thinking those little plasties, Yeah, we can just make tents or whatever. But yeah,
065just where they're >> available. >> There's a possibility. I know when we >> when we had it last time, I took the boards to the high school and I was there for the three nights of the play when you had a hundred people in line with nothing better to do and I could not get anybody to come talk to me. Now, maybe that's just because it was me. >> Well, I mean, if there's if there's No, no. I'm talking not anybody a person. We have those little table tent things with the QR code that says take the survey. >> Okay. >> So then they can just >> Yeah. It can just be a little sticker on >> Yeah. with their phone to just another way to get the survey out there. >> Yeah. No, I'm
066Yeah. People don't want to talk to people. People want to just >> specific >> keyboard warrior way. So we'll see about trying to get it out to more places than like the social media. I mean I think no matter what like there's an audience that isn't maybe social. I mean, I'm gonna say my mom, for example, you could do all of these things. >> It's never going to reach her, okay? I mean, that's just the kind of person she is. So, I think you got to realize that, you know, some audiences are more difficult to get. I did article like put it in there and maybe capture some of that. But, >> well, it makes me wonder if we couldn't take a stack of these to the senior center. Like I said, get it come
067a paper copy like you know like in the newspaper like some people are not technology literate like >> available to pick up and fill out the >> like the doughnut shop's going to be closed for the next >> but on Wednesday Thursday Friday a lot of those people are now moved to vintage because >> I will tell you after and I've done it every year but it's just a reminder at Rotary we did God storehouse food Hoovers. There's a lot of people go through Hoovers. I mean, somehow we be able to get that information out. Oh my goodness. >> Yeah. Like I was wondering that like >> I don't know. There's a couple ideas, but um Deon supporters the school. So I think >> Yeah, they're big. >> Yeah. I would think having you know
068cards or Bongards rec might catch it person. >> I think the C we'll get it we'll work on trying to get it out to as many people as possible. When we did the survey back uh this year we had close to 400 responses if I'm not mistaken. So, we got a fair amount of information. So, we'll we'll try to get it out there to on edge people or people >> and I can help go those things around or whatever. That way it's not on you. So, >> some of them if they drop them off in places and it's paper copy, especially for um like the less technologydriven demographics, we may have to go pick them up afterwards. >> Well, yeah. make sure that anybody said the way this is laid out. So I just went
069through >> here a little late. >> I was listen I heard it went through but anyways I just have a Craig. >> So that's what Craig will take your information. I just kind of looked at it and >> maybe it' be a little bit better laid out a recommendation >> and I strongly that there's information about the renovation having something >> sure thank you thanks for everybody's input on that. So moving on to results monitoring reports back we go back to the board just a little bit. Um so we all know we had insulation stuff come up for the boilers and then we had boilers at the middle school we had to replace eently. Um I was want to discuss so I think a year or so we talked about needing assistant another person in
070maintenance >> if do we need to revisit that to like essentially not have all our bag eggs in one basket with knowledge and skill with margaritas is incredible he probably knows things about these buildings in the district that I don't think anybody knows. So do we need to get someone with him to kind of >> what I should call you from now on. >> How about that? >> Anyway, James, >> yeah. >> I mean, Margarita's he's great and awesome and I can't thank him enough for what he does. But we're going to eventually I'm not going to be on this board anymore. I'm not going to work with Creek anymore. So, we need to have knowledge transfer for Margarito. So, we need to get him an assistant. and whatever. >> So, we've been visiting about
071a little bit. So, there's a lot of things that Margarita does on the backside that uh that he just does and that nobody knows. And uh so, some of that we just found out number one was the pipe insulation. We just found out that he was babying that every year. And so, that's why we end up doing the pipe insulation. But, uh we tried I think last year as Luke was talking about, we tried to have him kind of an assistant. And then that I started and then left and went somewhere and and Margarito does a fantastic job and we I don't think that we are suggesting that anybody takes his job. What we need is we need him to share his corporate knowledge with someone else that maybe, you know, takes over in the
072future or at least if Margarito is laid up sick or in a car wreck or whatever that can carry the water. I'm just concerned we this is a this is a large um complex with everything that we have and some aging equipment etc. And u I think we're going to get stung if we and and I know that Margaro you know I don't know I mean I don't know how much he wants somebody but I think he needs somebody. >> I don't think it's up to him. I I know, but I'm just >> If you leave it up to him, you're leaving us out. >> No, I understand that. I'm just I would >> I guarantee there's not a single one of us at work that does have somebody else that knows what we do.
073>> There needs to be somewhat of a succession plan, but there that's a big enough job >> that we need to do that. So, I think Craig needs to have a discussion with Margarito and uh and move that forward. >> We'll look if if that's the direction you're giving me, we'll look to advertise for an assistant director like we have had been an assistant director for a while. We lost that person. He Margarito and I talked. He said, "I don't really want to have I'm going to wait for a little bit." Well, it's now a little bit later. So, it was your direction. I I we can look to um you know, put out an opening for an assistant director and see what type of applicants we get. >> Yeah. And it's not just like
074the succession planning also, but like >> he needs >> we need to have Absolutely. >> I mean, if at 10:00 at night and on Saturday morning and Sunday morning and >> if something happened where he couldn't those pipes for those chillers and we got that cold spell, we'd have lost two chillers. >> Yeah. >> And that's hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment. >> Yes. So, >> yeah. So, we need two employees just for the fact of having two work. >> Yeah. and also learning all the things he does >> and and that and and they'll that person will also do lots of other things too. Of course, our great manages the janitorial staff bill. >> Absolutely. >> So, that person would be involved with all that also. So, >> yeah, I think that's
075the path we need to go down. Okay. If I won't be the first one to work on >> I think we've all said it. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I think we've all said it. Okay, great. >> I got I got your direction. Thank you. Guess with that, are we at risk anywhere else? >> We used to be transportation report. We're back to that science and social studies. Who's going to pre on that? I don't have any results for science and social studies because that's not tested in my building. So, Mr. >> Thank you, Darl. >> Um, I don't know if any of you guys have this issue at all. Can we scroll back to that top slide because my eyes are so bad now that I can very >> just Thank you very much. uh
076slide number three for me versus science assessment. So or social assessment. So um we do our social studies assessment locally. There's not a state mandate for data like we've talked about with English and uh reading, writing, math, those types of scores. So, we do ours locally and right now they actually spent time today grading theirs and it's more of an essay form uh where our entire department grades specific assessments that they have put in their department. So, they're grading those right now. Um so, there's no data to collect in terms of scores that we report to the state social studies wise. Um and it's not something is tracked or publicized or anything like that. It's strictly localized based. Each district decides if they want to do it or not regardless of >> just the first
077year. >> No. >> And so we do do that fourth grade. Matt does it at I'm not sure what grade. >> So we all do that, but it's just not like a state standardized test. >> Yeah. >> So just the science one, I don't I guess Reread what I put on there. Students who participated in revised and expanded grade 11 science assessment in spring 2025. The results of this assessment did not provide the range of scores that the state was looking for. Because of this fact, students did not receive an individual score. That's not just for Burlington. That is for the entire state. So >> no data. >> So yes, >> No data because the scores were so broad that they didn't give enough information to pres that. So, it's not a Burlington thing. A
078good test. >> Yeah. >> So, if you want to go down slide right here. Uh so right here it says ACT reports fiveyear trends. So if you look at the STEM one science, technology, engineering, math. So it's it's a wide range of different measurements. Um but the ones it's focusing on here are science and math. And then it shows down here in what our district did and what the state was. So these reports to do with how our students perform on those particular questions on the ACT. So if you see a 28.5 that doesn't mean our students had a 28.5 on their ACT. That means in this particular area on math that was related to a STEM benchmark is where our students performed in that particular area for science and math and those related questions.
079So just a little area right there. It says BHS class of 2025 scored above the state average. Clearly the scores both composite and science vary from year to year and the state average less variance due to their sustainable larger sample size. So sorry I had to get up there. >> The one thing I noticed on there is last year on the average STEM score we were well below the state average but it looks like we bounced back up which would It's kind of an anomaly. >> I mean, it happens. >> It's >> So, >> yeah, >> that's good. What I was really not wanting to see was another year where we were low and then we maybe had the beginning of a trend. So, >> if if we had a second year where that was
080trending, then we really have to start looking at the type of electives that we're teaching in our classes that have to do with our STEM related uh test scores. So, year to year, hopefully that's more of an indication that it was a one-year anomaly versus trend. Look at this. To me, it looks like we're right around average. >> Yes. >> To state, >> correct? >> Sometimes just above, sometimes just below, but right around, very accurate. >> Okay. Anybody have any more questions for me? >> I'll accept the science. >> Motion second. Any discussion? We won't have anything for negotiations this month, but most likely next month you will spend some time to talk about negotiations in executive session. Yeah, the calendar. So, what we did, we put out a draft um sent out to all
081buildings. We collected I collected responses information from the from the public from from the the staff and then we got together as an administrative group and we looked at the ones the the suggestions, recommendations, the ones that made the most sense to be able to try to implement and that's the draft two which you see right there presented. So, barring anything from the state that says we got to start school after Labor Day and end before Memorial Day, this is a proposed draft calendar for the next school year. And believe it or not, we do have people asking what does your calendar look like for next year because they're planning summer vacations, that type of thing. So, having said that, uh we did collect input from our staff. We put together again our administrative team
082uh to discuss and uh this is what we've come up with. any any major changes on it from how we've done it in the past? >> I know last year we got some interesting feedback from some people that we had to take into consideration. >> Every year I always get feedback at least is to listen and some you know sometimes some some feedback is it makes sense and we look at it as administrators and we say ah that you know something that we can do like I mentioned to our staff I can't do everything that you guys want me to do. So but we can do we can look at some things that do make sense. I mean, we went through all three buildings feedback list. >> Every every one of them. >> Okay. >>
083But as far as major changes, I don't remember anything that was significant. >> Okay. That's that's all I was asking. Was any of the pieces of feedback that we gave a day off where we didn't have it in the past? >> Should September 30th be read the box? >> Let me check and see. >> For conferences or am I wrong? >> No, we didn't put that down because it's an evening. We put it down for October 2 because it's a full day off. >> Good question. Good point. And that's the same thing in February. Same thing on the 17th. We didn't put it down since they noted it. >> 19th is a full day off of school because of it's a full day of conference, full day off for students. >> Yeah. >> And again,
084remember we do this pending pending gratification or contract. The only reason we do that is because we could potentially ask for additional hours and amounts of work that could change the calendar. But could ask for additional hours and amounts of work that could change the calendar. So really that's the only reason we put down for gratification. >> Hold my breath. >> Uh last year we did like some preemptive declaration snow days or something. >> So that was complicated. It's just really to me kind of something all the other districts have done. We do that now. Yes, we can do it in July. >> Yep. >> Good question. >> Do you have a prepared no school till after Labor Day? >> No, we do not. >> This is to start the process over, right? If that
085happens, we're just going to start over again. >> If if that happens, >> so much for two weeks off of Christmas. >> Oh, very much so. Maybe we'll change your brakes. It should possibly change spring break. >> Yeah. So that we would be back to the drawing board with the administrative team coming up with a potential schedule, a potential calendar. Yes. >> Could we invite state legislators feedback on it? >> Yeah. I mean, yeah. >> Well, it it could it all depends on if you change the number of days. >> Okay. >> And it could, like I say, could be hours and amounts in a day, too. So, it >> we're going to hope that the legislature comes to their senses and allows us to put together a That makes sense for us >> and
086all the other 286 school districts in the state as well. >> Yeah. I mean, if you >> Yes. >> Yeah. If we had to take that second yellow week in December and turn those gray, I'm sure we'd have a lot of feedback. >> I would imagine the legislators, but they should. >> Hopefully they remember they're up for reelection. >> I'm to approve the 2026 2027 calendar draft. to subject to the employ. Any discussion? No. >> Motion carry 70 contract. We have approval for the BMS plasma VHS VHS plasma cutter bid. >> So we did receive one seal bid on that. So again move to accept Kevin Dy's bid of $776 for the VHS plasma cutter. >> Second discussion. person. >> I don't have a need unless you all have a need. >> Anybody have any
087student issue? Nobody closing items miss anything debriefer. Thanks for heads up on the 20%. >> Yeah. And I mean, good, bad, or different, I think this board and the community will continue to make it happen. And the federal funds don't come through. I think you can I don't want to speak fairly, but I think we'll figure it out. >> Like I said, I'm an agent following and >> I'll just say I heard you say it tonight. I heard you say it the other night. I heard um the open director say it too. Don't think that you're wasting our time when you come in here. I you all said like I know I'm taking a lot of your time. >> I want to hear it. So >> I just say >> except the other night that
088was a >> lot. I just >> I just like I said I want to hear what you guys have to say. If that means I'm here at 10 o'clock, I'm here at 10 o'clock. >> Yeah, let's get the business done. >> I understand. I understand. >> Okay. >> Uh anybody have anything else? >> Great discussions, great board input. So appreciate it. We stand. Hey darling, I notic you just turn your saw.