001[Music] hello hello can you hear us yes got it thank you great basically we talked about the 2021 calendar okay we had a chance to discuss this just a little bit at the friday meeting that we had again there's one small adjustment to this calendar i changed the date on the calendar but i didn't change the date in the middle in regards to the no school in service on 14th so basically that 14th that september 14 day is shifting to august 19th so that's the one small adjustment um on the calendar i'll win the flex day too because the flex day moves to august 20th thank you and we need to switch that in the middle so i actually i switched those on the calendar but i didn't switch them in the middle for those
002so we'll look to approve this and again i don't know i'm good because kathy freeman is uh the beautiful president kathy um i've been in contact with her in regards to this and of course the timeliness of everything happening quicker than what we'd like we'd like that two to three months to get this all put together instead we have two to three weeks so i good advice it's okay for kathy for any comments if that's okay at all kathy if you haven't um the only comments in going through the surveys were that there were some people who felt that they might need more preparation time and there were some that preferred to do online until they were sure that everything was down in the county number twice but i presume we didn't ask about um
003our are you going to come back and uh because you're going to ask that so we are our questions our survey okay our questions did relate specifically to that so hopefully those people said that they would like to be the online instructors that that is something that is going to be pursued that's all the information [Music] again we are i say moving that start date back a day for kids it gives us one extra day of planning one extra day of preparation again in talking administration directors we've been talking about all summer long a lot of different scenarios and then finally when this is seems like it's hopefully becoming the scenario that we're going to be working with we feel like that taking that one day from september moving into august will hopefully help everybody
004get prepared our focus on two of those days is going to be technology and technology related to the different methods that we're going to utilize for for instruction in the kids so and we'll talk more about that with our plan here coming up other questions oh [Music] just you know i never got it yes okay uh we'll go into the school safety and learning plans this is probably the big one we're here for correct so craig will let you take it correct now let's start with the health guidelines if you would please um we have been working on these well since june 1 when we had a meeting here uh central office with not only usd administrators staff our city staff excuse me administrators and board members as well as administrators from 243 and 245
005uh different health representatives from the county trying to think of who else russell stuckey was here with emergency management a lot of different people and then there's been meetings and and discussions going on all throughout and now that we are we hope at least heading in the right direction and again the timeliness of this whole thing we would love to have two months to try to put together these guidelines in a an advisory committee first before we come to the board to look for approval but because again timeliness is a little bit of a challenge right now and so with these health guidelines these are what administrators and directors came up with with the coffee county health department uh carl d lindsay payer and then dr shell was in consultation with what we were looking
006at new eight to start again this school year we put down the date for 723 but as we know down at the bottom all items are subject to change based on current information so here is a list of some of the things that we agreed on that we feel like are important now you may have some suggestions and discussion items and then the advisory committee which we're looking at meeting july 30th which is thursday about six o'clock here again advisory committee i'm gonna send an email out after this meeting we'll look at we're basically going to do the same thing as what we are doing now with the advisory committee we're going to look at health guidelines we're going to look at the learning plans and we're going to make any adjustments that need to
007be made and then we'll have the august 10 board meeting come back and approve those based on current information august 10th again these are fluid documents flexibility is the key so with that i will i will just offer i guess any questions you may have administrators and directors are here in the office and they they were involved in this in this as well i might end up calling on them in regards to for example you might want to you know ask doug or anything regarding the bus and transfer buses and transportation um food service for diana hess or you know on apple line so i have a question on the the massive warrant is for everyone unless valid exceptions are lying [Music] we would have to fight for example uh if you and and you
008guys can chime in if i miss something so for example a student with special needs potentially might not be able to wear a mask we may have a situation with a health concern student with asthma potentially that is having problems with wearing a mask um we could deal with uh i'm trying to think of anything else we talked about correct deaf hard of hearing students um that type of thing and there's there was some guidance that came out not only in the governor's order 2059 right that we would recommend as well as another document from the state that i think that we would reference to create what that list looks like so there's real good guidance in what cdc just put out on opening schools and it talks specifically about that so and it talks
009about some of them what you just said and remember with school districts we can be we can choose to be more restrictive we can't choose to be less restricted so let's say the county says masks are god are not needed but we determined that we really feel like we should have them we can do that we can't go the other way though administrators directors anybody have anything okay we'll go kathy um there's a question on when i opened up the guidelines on number three um it says temperatures will take in before it enters into the building when we came to our staff meetings that you said that it will also be taken at the bus stops and there's nothing in this document that i saw that indicated anything about on the bus stop so that
010they would be boarded before entering on the bus so i don't think that was an oversight but i didn't see it anywhere else it's probably just something that we did not we didn't specifically state i guess in my mind i see the temperature when we take them before entrance into the buildings need to include the bus piece because we want less you know the temperatures be taken before the bus i think it was i think it was taken off and we said irregardless of whether it's taken on the bus we're going to recheck them when they hit the school because we don't know what kids mixed together after that i think that's when they removed it we should probably have the same safety on the bus though yes yeah absolutely we'll put that we'll add
011that and then this is part of the reason we're doing this as well as with the advisory committee because you guys all have so that doesn't make any sense to me okay so if you're going to let them on the bus you should have their temperature right so what are you gonna so taking it when they get off the bus how are you going to get them back home then so say they're so what's your number you haven't defined ill in your kids that would get it taken out off the bus that showed up with the mom and dad those kids so you haven't defined you what temperature that is that needs to be in there somewhere and real quick lori you on said we talked to lindsay about that because the ksbe document recommended
012100.4 but we're going to stick with 100. so when you do that if you if they're 99.9 they're going to get on the bus correct we said under 100 right so they get on the bus and their parent thinks they're going to school they get out of the bus and you take it when they walk in and they're 100. which is well within the air of your thermometer that's fine what are you going to do with that kid in my mind because we're going to use those scanners like doug had mentioned or i mentioned to you about doug vanderlin and craig coleman they are um a scanner that gives you like a green and a red if it's green it means it's under 100 it's red it means it's over 100 correct correct but so
013you got on under 100 right so so then after if they register let's say a school we will recheck with another monitor if you will a touchless thermometer and then see if we have a different number we're going to try to we want to try to check and recheck if needed my question is what are we going to do with that kid congratulations so then you're going to call the parent and they're going to sit in that sick room until that parent figures out how to get them correct even if it's until 3 30 or 4 in the afternoon well that's that's how it's happened already i'm just asking what you guys have to define all this because people are going to be because it's crazy what we're considering and the process is not scientific
014it's all everybody's opinion so we're not doing it based on a lot of straightforward things so and for us to not have a lot of issues i think all that stuff should be very well defined if it's a hundred then that's the number and i don't have a problem with that number but we'll put that in is there anything there's different ways to take the temperature if you're doing temporal inner ear for frontal or skin temperatures there's different errors with each of those so if you do an ear thermometer on the bus and you do a forehead scanner when they get there you're going to have different temperatures there's no question so part of this i would like somehow to get the community more involved and take their kids temperature so that you have more
015of an average if they have that process going on so parents aren't so we don't have that scenario where we have seven kids get on the bus with the temperature of 99 because parents have to get to work and seven of them all are reading 100 just because of the difference in the thermometers it's a real it's a pain but it's going to be an issue with the process because of how everything is getting done so we need to define true ill if your kid has a temperature of 100 or for the previous so say their temperature is 100 saturday morning and 100 sunday morning does that mean monday morning they can't go to school is there an hour limit on how long their temperature can be elevated and all that stuff needs to be
016defined and whatever stuff we're doing we need to be very specific and defined that way when the parents they they take hold of this with the whole community so that the school isn't saying well they're 100 you got to come get them and then they're you know parents can't find a way and then they're leaving work and they're doing this and all this other stuff if we make it very specific which is harder because everybody can come up with their own scenario i know everybody's thinking well this this and this you can all come up with the scenario when we're dealing with what ifs that makes the exception to the rule we have to make things that are very specific stick to them let the community understand them get used to them and then move
017forward i think the biggest thing and i'm gonna go to lori in just a second the biggest thing we wanted to do with this document is to show the community what we're doing and again we didn't want it to be five or six or seven pages long but some of the things that you're mentioning through the definition we need to add that in because really we came up with a pretty a pretty decent starting point we probably can put in i should probably we can put in those definitive uh statements like they'll be taken on the bus 100 degrees is our number we can encourage parents to check temperatures at home before yeah just more i don't want more stuff i even take less stuff but the stuff we put very well defined falls into
018a category that says oh mom and dad go uh it's 24 hours and you know we've had that room right if you're 100 degrees and 24 hours you're not supposed to go to school the next day people haven't really followed that then the sniffles and everything gets carried through the school this is different we have to get people to get on board with those numbers and make it our parameter and if they show up at 100 parents have to know we're calling you to come again yes just to address a couple things you mentioned about like the community taking temperatures lindsay even said that they're hoping to use some of the grant money to make thermometers available to all of the families in the county so that will be helpful because we hear that often
019we don't have a thermometer at home with their temperature as far as the type of thermometer we're using the infrared scanners of course they all have different readings no one reads the same well right there's calibration here at all right right but that that is our method we ordered new thermometers so we're going to be doing infrared for all the school settings and on the bus um as far as but you have to define once they're on the bus does that count to school yes so then you don't have to check them again well i'll like i'll wait no go go look you can go with i i don't like commenting the problem with this and the administration director said in regards to kids getting up so for example if you're at the middle school
020and you're getting off at the main entrance there are also other kids coming in getting dropped off it's hard for our administrators directors to be able to make sure that every kid coming off the bus is also you don't need to check that kid because they were already checked but they sometimes mix in and they stop and talk with each other so so how does the kid that's why we just decided it would be best to check them all before they how does the kid get on the bus he never goes in the building they just drop him off at the middle school and then he gets on a bus to go to another school and do it like at my school where our bus truck is right now all those bus kids can be
021checked but they're walking up the same door as people that get dropped by their parents so whoever is our checker they're not going to necessarily know and bus riders don't necessarily write five days a week so like at my school we talked about we didn't want to recreate this content i would have my business dropped with a different door that we could know they're getting off the bus i don't have to put a screener at that door and then you come straight in and they wouldn't be mixing with that population that's being dropped off by their parents so you so what so what makes no sense to me being on the physician side of this is that there is no one who walks by you that's going to develop a fever in five minutes let
022alone five days right so if you know everybody on the bus has screened and you walk past me even if you throw the virus my way it's going to take around somewhere around 10 to 14 days to actually develop anything it's not about that it's about knowing but [Music] so that person sitting at the door when we have 60 kids trampling through the door they're not going to know if cody long got dropped off and these are you know he needs to check or put him over the bus and he's good the only way if they're all using the common door which is what happens at all the buildings in my building i can fix that because i can have my buses drop in a different door and those kids don't have to be these
023streets i'm not sure if the other buildings but i think safe practice would be to check everybody come to the door i don't have a problem with that then it doesn't make any sense to check them on the bus it does because we're sitting with the bumps right now for free to send them right back in my front door then get them all the way we are expecting our kids to develop a fever within five minutes of some kind of contact it'd be nice to screen them right there and say mom your son or your daughter has 101 so so when a student for example and you can help me out if you want to try them in here what we're going to do with this is the student students that try to get on
024the bus when they are when they meet they try when they get on the bus if we check their temperature right there if they register a temperature then there's going to be a contact made for the parent to come pick up the student and if there's again ideally it'd be great if the parents could be able to do ideas close by to start with get a feel for this and understand that when your kids get on the bus that they're going to get their temperature taken and if they're registering a temperature of 100 or greater we're going to have to have them go back home that day so the parent hopefully will wait with this student at a bus stop i know a lot of times i've ridden bus routes and a lot of times
025we pick up it's very very close to the house sometimes we don't doug i don't know if you have any other comments i really know the problem concern i get with that is we're going to increase our pickup time immensely good just because we'll be checking if there's something sent back there's some kids that don't they're not out there so you're going to have you know 30 40 seconds a minute waiting on them and then you're going to have a process that you go through to send them back so that's my only concern well i think it's a valid concern but i think that if you're going to check their temperature the best time is when they're at their house before you pick them up that's my point don't let them sit on a bus
026with a bunch of kids if they already have a fever if they get on the bus and don't have a fever there has to be a way this place can let them off a bus without having to retest them and let them go into school we can do that at the elementary but at the middle of middle and high school that is more challenging for where we drop off the safest point with our buses i don't disagree it's not challenging or it might but it's not hard there's doors by the gym there's doors as a front door there's both heights we have multiple doors we can change that process we do not have to let the kids that have already been screened that go through i'm so it's not an absolute but you should look
027into just dropping them off at different places so the people don't have to guess who's been tested and who hasn't been tested it's going to be enough delay like doug brought up just getting kids in the school right so if you have a whole busload that shows up the same time that seven parents are dropping off their kids why should we let them mingle right because now you got to sort out and then just do it all over again that delays the whole thing and i understand that we will look into this to see if we can come up with something at the middle of the high school the problem is we're going to have a lot of people at the beginning of the day doing a lot of different things like for example we're
028going to have people checking temperatures and doors this isn't just for students but for staff staff don't come into the military we've got some early riser staff that would like to be there at 6 30 6 40 6 50 in the morning we got to make sure before they got into the building their tests are checked and they're okay i agree and yet like i said we don't want to we don't want to we don't want to keep staff out of our building early but we're going to have a lot of we have to we have to come up with this plan where we're checking to make sure everybody coming into the building is fever-free right so the bus would help all the kids on the bus already tested but it's going to take additional
029staff to be able to monitor a separate door potentially at these buildings but we'll look into it we can take another person yes we'll look forward to it at each building i'm just saying that i think it'd be easier if we already tested them and they dropped off on the door and went right in that you don't have to test them again which delays still getting into the building tracy just did come up through the idea we could have our bus paras that are going to be on the bus walk the kids in at a different entrance we could look to do that that may be a solution to our problem okay that's all i'm asking thanks for bringing the storm that process we did that's it that's why i say that another question so
030are we providing maths for the staff are we providing maths for all students are we providing math for anyone are we not providing them yes we are but yeah you could everybody yes we are every day we will give mass to students and staff yes it could be reusable mass or it could be study if they want to bring their own they can bring their own okay we are we are stockpiling supplies like you would not believe everybody in the so that was going to be one of my questions also look i i think that because the school supply list already went out so i don't know if parents are aware if they get any you know supplies for masks or whatever i just had a question so well first of all the attendance awards
031i think that's great i think it's a really good thing to include in there nobody's penalized for following the rules and staying home so i think that's really nice um my question was on the doctor's release will be required for staff for students to return to land positive covenant 19 tests just from my experiences working at the hospital through all of this a lot of our cobit 19 positives some are just allergy-like symptoms and they rarely follow up with the physician following um so they're really going by health department directive to say you're out of quarantine you've been symptom-free for three days you're released you're good to go so the doctor piece is a little is a little bit different for me so i just wanted to bring that up and just get some clarification
032on that i think when we talked about it though through the health department was you know or said they can't return on that that's just as good so it may just be a worrying very important yes very well could be and that would be then the only other thing that um so on here it says that mass will be worn at schools by everyone unless developed exceptions apply so i assume that's students and staff and then it talks about how visitors are required to follow the guidelines listed unless they're five years or younger so i know you do have some tutors that are five and also some pre-k well mass supply to them as well even though they're under that age limit then yeah the the 2059 order said to stew just students okay but
033not to visitors okay that makes sense so as the school thought about any clear face mask for some of those students okay so like i've already purchased surface mass shields and flexible speech language in particular so those people won't have to wear a mask at all right just their clear mask we've got some that are over here so they can just see through the mask how about shields face shields instead of them it's not that science isn't isn't good at all yeah i didn't order 500 of them because i want to see what i want we got to try some things yes i have a couple questions um on this document there's nothing that several people have required if there is a positive case of 2019 diagnosed by either a student or a staff member
034we will are excusing will the board of education be transparent like the usb 244 recreation board was and release the statement so we know that they contact people for their father about tracing we know that but are you going to notify the school district if there has a case so that people who there's so many different symptoms to this that people could then be a little more aware to watch for themselves and in the case of the elementary school a lot of young young children that i thinks will probably be way different but a lot of times young children will be in the hallway and we stop and you say um do you need help yes i need to know where to go or i had an accident they were excused to go to the
035restroom they have an accident they come they're looking for a change of clothes that would not be something that all young children would remember oh why wouldn't i talk to so-and-so for this song is is there going to be some [Music] it's mandatory reporting to the state for all positives the best way to find out who's positive is by that parent or person who's ever positive reporting it to us and we can't make them tell us but we can ask everybody but so susie goes and gets tested and she's positive unless she tells us there's no way for us to get that information if you were given that information would you do a release like what the recreation center did or the recreation center put on an idol somebody right so that person must have
036reported to him and then they announced that was the one at the pool yes so then they announced that they had a positive patience without naming right yes so yes the school district can easily do that we can say that there was a positive or one or two or whatever i don't know that i'm against that i don't know if anybody else i'm not against that i think we discussed this with lindsay and she kind of asked that they'd be able to do their contact investigation first and then the district could you know if it was necessary um release a statement so through the health department you mean well it could be in conjunction with them ultimately but did she say she said she said even if susie came and told us she was positive
037she wouldn't want us to say make a statement until the health department made the statement also or is that what she's saying investigation so the health department gets notified whenever there's a positive then they investigate the context they would want to wait till after that right so we have a good example of that that just happened several weeks ago yeah so the best thing is to wait for the health department to be able to do that contract tracy because the next thing you know if somebody announces oh we got a positive piece here we got a consistency there next thing you know we have phone calls protocol after phone call people thinking they need to be tested because they heard from such and such it's like the game of telephone where you whisper in somebody's
038ear next thing you know ten people now it's totally different so that allows the health department to do a thorough investigation and get very accurate information and contact those that are at true risk for potentially having it before the rumors we never had a contact a lot of work trying to figure this all out and time spent answering these questions without answering and kathy if i can address like you know helping somebody get with directions in the hallway it's they're looking at the length of time that the individuals were together so that would not qualify as a contact when those for that long and that falls back into that six feet distance for more than 10 minutes so 6 10 are those key numbers and that's why it's going to be important and we've talked
039about this and we even discussed this with our staff last wednesday at our staff meetings through starleaf we talked about how it's important that for example assigned seating so we can be able to determine kids and that may be content and that's much easier for contract contact tracing for our staff to be able to help out for example lindsay payer and the health department people if there has to be some notifications so it's going to be a little different for a staffer staff's going to have to think about classroom organization a little differently as far as assigned seating and then you know it's trying to trying to limit interactions as much as possible and keep kids in similar groups as much as possible so here all of our teachers have microphones like something that they
040can use the classroom amplification systems elementary wise yes five through eight most of them do very few of the high school teachers at home so are we going to order some of that more of that i mean i'm just thinking it's hard to hear through these and then if you're instructing to a whole classroom it's going to be hard for our teachers on their voices and to you know magnify their voices so i'm thinking yeah i just didn't know if we had that availability of microphones for voice amplifiers or whatever not in the high school not in high school the only time there was one in the high school is when there's a student that has that need at the high school lobby so with that teacher said that they want them what have your
041teachers said anything about that that they that they would like those or they may not know yet if they like them or not i'm sure yeah i think it's something to really consider to look at possibly [Music] i have some familiarity with that from my time in first we had uh i'm trying to remember the name of the vendor i want to say red line if i'm not mistaken but again it was a voice amp there's a portable voice amplification system what doug is talking about in in systems we're talking about middle and elementary score more of a permanent type system where it's speakers we can look into those if needed we sure can i mean they're gonna have to really be projecting their voice more you know that's really gonna after seven hours talking
042loudly you know so let me get your question answered i so you know that's actually to prevent the mass chaos right yeah sure so if they investigate just yeah so you get what we're saying yeah yeah we have no problem we want people against public school keyword is public and we just don't want to violate any [Music] there was some concern among some staff members that we will have students who can't afford personal school supplies when we went to everyday shares nobody knew because there's a container on every table and everybody can step out we didn't know who didn't wasn't able to afford bringing their school supplies in and they didn't know if sparks money could be used to help offset that just something to think about that was a concern about it that they
043they wanted to make sure that every student felt that they were ready for school also not oh my gosh i'm gonna i don't i don't have all these things that i'm supposed to have for school according to that list and just to touch on your point and you go to your next item we are i'm working with uh gentleman matt harmon at wolf creek uh matt is working on putting together uh like school packages for like kids in great stage before five through eight nights we helped with the basic supplies and then also i'm working with heather carver through ecam on some school supply things some school supply supports if you will school maybe clothing or other things from a radiant life church ryan anchors i'm working with him as well because they're looking to
044do the shoes again the new shoes for the kids i didn't roll them so we've got some we've got some real good things and going there for students in need so and something i picked up today on again on a cdc document was all the kids need to put their name on their mask because young kids will trade stuff or we talked about doing paper sacks yeah paper sacks but afterwards walker or whatever but yeah like for their names high school age reports and things like that making sure because ideally we would like to try to reuse the masts as long as they are capable of being reused and but again the safety and storage piece did not know that there are certain ways to store them but there are better ways to store mass
045and we're learning that so it's it's truly the domino theory it's masks lead to plastic bags or paper bags that they know might be paper bags for storage and yeah it's just different and then we've got to have the thermometers and the owners need to try to be calibrated as best as we can and so it's it's a it's a lot but we can do this we can do it okay there were two other questions um i don't know what would be classified as an outbreak but in the event of a school upgrade would school be suspended for 14 days like quarantine style or would it be where school would you work in a school where you continue to do all depends on the guidance for example from the health department so when we and
046laura you can speak on this and administrators directors you guys can chime in too so if we have some sort of a situation that we need to deal with whether it's either covet type symptoms or a positive case then we go into the health department and they they help us immediately and then we make that determination based on what we need to do so is it is it some kids either need to be quarantined or isolated maybe potentially staff might be quarantined or isolated potentially it could be just a lot of different things so um or if you have any other comment we are going to rely on we want to keep the the tracing piece and the identification piece uh that the health department is using we want to be consistent and not come
047up with our own way of doing things at the county commissioners community today i spoke to they they really appreciated that we involved the health department and the consistency piece is going to be very important in hopefully making sure that we do everything we can to take care of all of our needs so lori i'm sorry well and i think it kind of depends on you know how active the student was the number of contacts that would be other school students school staff so according to the health department it will kind of depend on the number of contacts that would be involved with a particular case as to how many potentially would be missing school does that make sense so like a high school kiddo that's involved in theater and football and you know scholars
048bowl and you know numerous things may have more contacts than what a middle school fifth grade kid would have well lindsay went on to say that they don't want to close down a school for the whole system if they could isolate just even a grade level or wing or whatever that might look like depending again on what it depends lawyer has cancer but at the same time um like the state word catchword is to pivot and um part of why we're going to have those two days of training is so that we can if we need to we can pivot to an online or different platform and put it right back into the in person we have to do that obviously severity depends and severity of symptoms because i may not have many or i
049may not be able to function and somebody's gonna help keep over my feet so you know of course again we as we talk about the source and the receiver so whoever you know if both are wearing masks it's very low risk so so that's something to consider so to help depart when they investigate that's the first thing you're going to ask with both people in the mask the last question was on the health guidelines that says the social business they will be encouraged that you know talk about mess so there's a question since we are encouraging social distancing um not mandatory hamas are we going to limit things like assemblies like recess time uh restroom lunchroom breakfast being served and then it came up because it says the river will open at 7 35 buildings
050where would these students report to so the rest of the questions [Music] um you know we're kind of a difficult spot because staff aren't on duty it's hard to get their input without taking their summer away once we get a plan for those things my plan is just to roll out like an informational video to parents and staff and you kind of say here are some changes that we're going to see in our school next year for the lunchroom for breakfast 4 a.m before school definitely don't have all those answers right now there are you're somewhat familiar with this because i know darla has talked with you about we may have to because our lunchroom at the elementary school is small we may have to use half the gym put a tarp on half the
051gym and serve lunch in half the gym so that would keep kathy would only have half of him for pe if i'm not mistaken do we i think we have a curtain that drops we have a curtain that drops down at half court so at least there's a little bit of a barrier it's not a wall or anything like that it still be some noise from the cafeteria students on one half and then pe kids so that's an example of we're going to try to maneuver the kids and put them in places where there is some distance and some we can spread out a little bit better so that's one example adding a lunch to less than the amount of kids middle school high school i don't know if you guys want to speak on
052your thoughts we're in the same boat as darla i've already created an extra lunch today so we're going to have three lunches you know we're looking at whether we'll put kids certain groups in the gymnasium for the commons uh or are we gonna assume the teachers rooms but we haven't had the staff back so it's pretty difficult to make every decision that you you know i make a lot of decisions that i'm not getting as much input as i would like to get on those but those are the types of things that we're we're talking about right now and trying to limit those times where kids congregate you know so that's you know that comes with you know having a separate bus entrance um if i've got to keep fifth grade separated sixth grade and
053seventh grade and eighth grade there's two or three adults per grade level already and so it's it's how do we divide them out throughout the middle school first breakfast they come in they eat breakfast it's going to be have to be more organized at that point in time because it's not going to be oh today i'm gonna decide to eat breakfast and i'm gonna go sit wherever i'm gonna have to have assigned seats for kids as well we can put four kids at a table and they're because they can see they and they can keep their distance but they're going to have to be in the same tables every day or close to it so that if we do have to trace them we can provide that list of names guys really the question is
054an excellent discussion so uh and comments from administration directors thank you very much are there any more questions on the health guidelines part so is that is that a document that you're gonna then revamp before school starts and we're gonna so here here would be again ideally if we had two i'd say two to three months we would have um we would have the advisory committee before the board approves this but we don't have her we're limited with our time so this will be an approval scenario tonight for the for these adjustments and i've taken some notes um here that we're going to add in some some clarification then again thursday we're looking to have thursday july 30th the advisory committee they may come up with some things we didn't think about here today and
055you have a list of the advisory committee members attending their confirmation i think most all of them have confirmed i think they've only had one or two that have not been able to be on that committee and they're going to be again parents grandparents there's going to be substitutes out there teachers there's going to be administrators directors there's going to be you saw the list and i tried to put their roles out to decide what they how they would serve but i might miss them for example i might miss some i think i missed one i know that is a substitute for us but there's going to be a lot of different people there with a lot of different views and then they're going to come up with some things tonight that like for example
056clarification so i'll take those notes that you've mentioned and add those in for thursday's meeting and then we'll come up with some ideas maybe from their meeting that we want to make some adjustments to that'll give us a few days until our august 10 more meeting and then if they have some things that they would like to see i'll try to highlight those in a different color and then that way hey this is what they came up with this is what that advisory committee came up with it'll come back to you guys for i guess i won't say final approval but august 10 approval will just say august 10 approval and we may have to make some adjustments as we move on as we said it's a flexible document how many additional staff members versus
057additional healthy custodial staff will be hired to supporters okay this might be where i have for example margarito and you can kind of help me with this and make sure we're looking at having a second daytime custodian in the building during the day just simply because we believe a daytime our daytime custodians deal with a variety of things but our second daytime custodian is pretty strictly focused on additional cleaning supports for the most part and so they're looking to hire a daytime custodian for each of the buildings to help support cleaning rooms for example when darla's kids go to lunch or they go to potentially pe music library we're going to go ahead and get in there hit those high-touch areas door handles tables chairs things like that and we're going to again these positions
058thank you for mentioning tracy mentioned these are positions that are grant funded positions through that spark money that we're getting so when we put out those openings those positions are not guaranteed or permanent if we go back to our old normal and we don't need those positions those go away we we believe that for example some additional staff margarito am i missing anything there with staff okay the bus paris scenario those are positions that we again they will go away when we don't have to do temperature checks hopefully we don't have to do that in the in the future i'm trying to think food service additional food service additional food service staff so these are all those uh those grant fund smart cover type money positions that are we concerned about filling those yes yes
059so i find it ironic that she looked at me because i tend to have the fair position but i do think some of them like temperature checkers things like that could be some para's instructional you know i mean those people right could do that too before but it won't work at all i mean i know we have trouble with yeah cooks you know and and so higher on additional yeah you're right and you know what every school district in the state's going through this because again as we understand too now there are some scenarios where people are taking unemployment and making a nice wage maybe they are not too ready to get back to work because they're they're doing all right with their unemployment and they choose to go that route of course of course
060as long as they're capable again no judgment there at all i'm not judging one way or the other on that but yeah we're concerned about that but we do have some applicants that are popping up and we're just going to try to fill as best as we can as you said sometimes we have trouble we're keeping those filled so although that position that they come in on may be temporary it's not to say that there won't be right of course at full time i mean they won't necessarily they don't like you but the reality is and to give you another example for example our bus prayer situation we anticipate that could be like an hour and a half in the morning an hour and a half and it will just be in the morning and
061you don't have to do it in the afternoon some of our para professionals and some of our staff go 30 and have 35 hour weeks that could get them closer to 40 hour weeks which would again benefit them financially so maybe some of our jobs that we need to fill hopefully will be from within and we just very much we need to be together on this because like for example when i met with the county attorney or county commissioners today again just being together and getting back to school is important we all feel that but getting back to school but we have to be safe for our students and our staff and want to reiterate that i know i think every one of you are here friday and you guys talked about making sure we're
062safe for our students and our staff i think you guys all reference that and that is important we're going to do everything in our power because again i say we love our kids we want them back and we want them to be here for the full year we want to be in our buildings we need everything in our power to make sure that we can we can try to do that and it's going to again together together i think we can do this it's just gonna require everybody doing you know the things that we need to do how much coming back this needs to be like if we make changes how much of the i guess how deep do we get into the reason approving it at this level like i mean i i read
063that it looks like this starts shane brings up great questions that i kind of thought like right how much of that needs to come back to the board august 10th and stuff i mean i know there's going to be a living document well it's it's my opinion in my opinion only but the administrator we have to trust the are going to do their job and and we have to say yeah we believe you're doing your job but there is going to be things that we're going to bring up and ask that they look at but other than that we would be all day trying to micromanage that and i don't think we should that's what my question is the county commissioners again have been very good about they want for example russell cookie has been
064charged with working on that 1.76 million million dollars from the county for the smart money again we're so thrilled that the county commissioners have reached out to us trying to obviously take care of the county different entities in the county whether it be schools or a library system or a hospital and helping out with different different entities and so we're in fact that's something tracy and i are going to be working on tomorrow is finalizing the document to get to russell the county commissioners i think do that by april by august 13th so we're trying to get that to them ahead of time because i know they're going they're going to have a lot to consider money goes quick it really does so these things that we're talking about like mass and thermometers and extra
065positions and they're going to be we're focusing in on that sparta money and again what i understand is the first of possibly three distributions of 400 million so there could be two more distributions and who knows i mean we're still we're storing the supplies and materials i delivered some masks and face shields to them to the buildings today i know we've got a lot of supplies coming margarito has been working a lot on supplies and there's lorry been working on supplies as well so we're going to be stockpiling what we feel like we need and then ordering more as time goes on because again there'll probably be a second and that third distribution of money that will hopefully come from from the government but we and and tracy made a good point we put copit
066information on the website once this started we can we can update this on the website and as as time goes on it may be something we just do a quick review on every month at the board meeting hey we don't see any adjustments that need to be made nothing has come from our our patrons our families our administrators i don't know if you guys have anything to add or anything to look at it may just be a quick hit or review it just may be that each month stacey you mentioned not hearing or getting as much feedback from your staff as you like is that something that you expect down the line i mean obviously when it starts i think i think once school starts we'll get more feedback you know when you have a
067meeting in july you're not going to even get all your staff there so i mean we've had that but i think uh giving out the survey and some stuff like that maybe we'll get a little more feedback you know i hadn't thought of the uh the amplifiers and i don't know somebody i wouldn't have needed but i know some people would and so we'll have to discuss that and that'll be a question i ask the staff when i talk to other persons and that's a good point too and i would imagine our viewership tonight whether it be facebook or whether it be youtube correct we have both going down or just just youtube i would imagine our viewership tonight on youtube is probably a pretty uh pretty decent amount of people which is good glad
068that they're by the youtube is out there taking care of those people that are at home but we're going to get this information you know how good tracy is with minutes of meetings we're going to give this out to our staff quickly and then i'm also going to send out an email to the staff updating them about this meeting updating them about future meetings with advisory council advisory committee and that again there will be just continued more information that you know they can they can meet with their building administrators either you know phone call in person whatever if they have questions they can also contact me if there's any questions that come up and craig are you going to publish this advisory committee somewhere so the people in the public can contact any of those
069people to bring back involved yes because that's the great thing about the advisory committee is it's going to be wide-ranging of a lot of different people and those people have people that they associate with and then they can i would anticipate us meeting in in my mind july 30th and then i would like to hopefully maybe potentially meet one more time before school if we feel like we need it and then after that advisory council that advisory committee would be as needed hopefully our covenant numbers continue to decrease we may not have to have maybe but once every nine weeks of meetings if i have monthly meetings we just don't know but that group i want to keep that group kind of on retainer for a lack of a better term i want them i
070want them to give us because again you guys have come up with things tonight that we didn't get down they will as well so is there any other questions on the health guidelines and we'll move into the proposed learning options okay this proposed learning document um if you look at the navigating change document they talk about three different models they talk about the on-site piece where it's basically school school as we've seen before that's what we all prefer that's what we all desire that's what we all want it may or may not be the case you know for everyone they also talk about a hybrid or a blended model that hybrid or blended model could be something for example like say topeka school district has created they created that blended model which is an a
071day e day if you will so students go under eight a half the students will go in a and then the other half come on b then on wednesday they created a day where they just clean the buildings and then on thursday the a students go and friday the b students go something along those lines so you're really getting two days a week in the building the other three days are outside so it's about 40 of attendance with staff so having said that that could be a possible a blended model in some way shape or form where you're not only doing it in person with smaller groups but also you're doing online like that blended model or hybrid model the third option that the state talked about that the navigating change document was again an
072online learning option where you're talking about strictly online there may be some people or maybe some families that just don't feel comfortable right now sending their kids back to school and we need to meet their needs too we truly need to meet their needs so in discussions with our administrators and directors we just felt like three different options right now to start with would not make sense for us we truly felt like based on our numbers in the accounting and the information that we've had from the health department and the directions that uh i guess the i say the information we've been given and the discussions that we've had that we truly can do an on-site learning model as well as an online learning model we don't necessarily have to do a hybrid or blended
073model right now so that's why we chose to present to you these two options for student learning so again quick review you can see it up there that's the traditional setting really don't need to go through that too much the online learning though that's going to be different than continuous learning was back in the fourth nine weeks of this last school year continuous learning was again a a it was a project that we created we put together people in the state put together on a very short notice we did the best we could because we just didn't i think the state felt like they couldn't go from week to week to week to week to determine if we were going to actually have any type of form of school it felt like they needed to
074get something going and try to do the best we could to keep some sort of education happening so this online learning this is going to be from 7 755 to 310 each day and you're going to have from a tech device so basically quite honestly we're going let's say k12 101 type technology and we are so fortunate in this district that the technology staff as well as the technology uh equipment that we have and you know with doug vanderlin's leadership credit woman's leadership and then all of our tech staff as well connecting with our staff and some of the things that have been put in place not only during continuous learning but also during the summer with tech cadres and tech groups working and different things happening behind the scenes we feel like that this
075model can occur again you're going to have a device of some sort and the student will be expected to be online each day for class so if let's say for example a fifth grade student in amanda allen's room there she may have 15 kids and she might have one kid that's online they'll be on microsoft teams and they'll be they'll be getting the instruction all kids will be getting that instruction from that really excellent teacher that we hired to be able to take care of our kids so with that being said they will be able to to have that connectivity with their devices and so it's a consistent platform we heard also from our our parents that they really wanted to have small i guess fewer platforms to deal with so if some parent like
076for example some kid or something should be some teachers want to use a program like for example we have study island and reading eggs and then some use shelby and some use microsoft teams and i'm trying to think of some other places if you want to email there's a lot of different platforms that can be used and it's really confusing to parents if they've got two or three kids at different ages different levels so these two platforms we feel like they will work in an online setting plus if we have to go to a hybrid model in the middle of the school year we can utilize these platforms in a hybrid and online model so there will be a consistency in place and our teachers they won't have to change and go to different platforms
077if we have to go to blended as well as online so um with that being said i'll stop there questions comments so this is my understanding you just said 16 people would be in mrs allen's class so 15 are in the classroom when one is online so they would be online with mrs allen also correct they would use that device and they would see the instruction that would be coming from that teacher other questions other comments would there be anything to help facilitate that along lines of like a tech pera kind of thing because getting fifth graders on teams difficult and it's going to be their first year on teams because they're correct we're going to be working with we're going to be working with the fifth grade teachers before we send the devices home
078and with fifth grade students directly on those very topics so we're going to be doing teams 101 with all fifth graders so my next question you may have addressed it last year but so my grandson came from topeka and he came to our house to try to get on his assignments and he couldn't get on in the evening so when he called that number there was nobody answering the number do we have something on the call to take that or to try to get somebody on is that just only during the day that's part of why i think the discussion wasn't about the same school day in respect so that they're getting it in real time and then there's not the attempt to get it well i think with that too it's going to be
079important to create some of those black and better words boundaries because i had teachers that were answering questions on saturday night at nine o'clock and that's you know that's hard to be able to teach during the day and then you throw 24 7. and they did a great job don't get me wrong but it was it was trying yeah and we also don't want to create an environment this is not a virtual school yeah we are not creating a virtual school for kids we believe in the staff and teachers we have we want those teachers teaching kids so we're going to create an environment where we accommodate that the best we can to have those teachers there we don't want a kid to come back and say hey i'm pretty bright i can go through
080the virtual school and i can get through my full day assignments in two hours it's easier for me just to stay home and work through that environment that's that's not what we want we want those kids in front of our teachers in front of our staff and even if we all have to go home we talked about blended well what happens if we're in a situation where somebody orders that we all go home from thanksgiving to christmas right and we've got three weeks of instruction there we all can go home and we need we're going to be providing the supports for our teachers and even when they go home they've got the tools that they need at home as well so to so that again the the learning environment looks the same from day one
081to day 180 and i think that's what's important and significant about what we're talking about here so that that really means you know that that kid is going to be signing up as you can see for very specific things that looks like regular school sitting at their kitchen table so one of the i don't know if you've pulled a question more of a comment so students choosing a model need to remain in that model so they until the semester is over i think i think that's important because you don't want people flip flopping back and forth but just as a comfort so as a parent if i was to send my kid to school the actual in-person model that we're going to go with if all of a sudden i start to feel uncomfortable maybe
082somebody in my house will all of a sudden has an illness that's a compromised immune system whatever could i then pull my child out at that time and go to an online model and stay online of course until the next time to switch just just some thoughts to think about i don't think you want students flip flopping back and forth but i do think there's some circumstances where it might be okay and stacy we talked about that for that very reason and what we didn't want is all of a sudden now amanda allen because we brought amanda out now all of a sudden she's got to go oh stacy's kids now i need to drop them in such and such program and assign these objectives from october to the end of december and so the
083answer is yes this model supports that much better for that situation and maybe your situation is only two weeks long you know and then all of a sudden things have cleared to a point where you're like i'm ready for them to go back well they've stayed in that same learning environment they haven't disappeared for two weeks i do think it would give parents a little bit of comfort knowing that if i choose to send my kid that doesn't mean that they're stuck there the entire time and i'm going to be left with no other option once numbers go up and i no longer feel comfortable if they can pull their child and still have that saving platform of that outlet and two and i just realized i i think i put it in the item
084of both we'll talk more about that here in just a few minutes just above that i didn't put that in a second so i will add that wording in there um circumstances may obviously you know be you know considered special situations may be considered um i mean that can be used for an individual that's you know the contact with someone to test positive if they're home performing for two months we expected this to be online learning director's class even though they showed no symptoms they're fine correct correct um i will add that wording in there and uh and that way it'll cover that that piece and and we got guys we felt like the semester made sense you could say nine weeks it could be every nine weeks but i have our as administrators and
085directors we felt like that that semester piece was important and getting this information out to people because again we get this out starting tomorrow there's a survey a short survey that you've already seen we'll look at here in a minute in a few minutes but that survey filling out that survey is going to be oh so important to us because we truly need to know how many people are looking at going online because again if it's if it's one or two you know in each grade level for a total of 20 kids 30 kids whatever the case went somewhere in that neighborhood you know that's going to be different than if we have i'm going to say 20 5th graders we may have to look at you know dealing with that situation you know quite
086differently so anyway that those are things for us to obviously be considering as time goes on um yes kathy did you have a few i did there were a couple of questions about if a family decides to true home school not not use us in that but home school and then after a couple of months this isn't working out or whatever will they be under the semester before coming back or do they just enroll in public school they would just enroll if they choose to to go again to come back to us we need to hold them if they open our boundaries [Music] there was a question [Music] yes and we hire those people that are the best that we want with our kids we can figure out if we need to it may require
087that for example we would have another adult setting in that room with the kids instruction being delivered by the teacher from starley for example or mike when i'll start with microsoft teams i guess or shelby good good questions the item that's above the item that stacy referenced regarding the kids doing online learning due to health concerns not being eligible for extra intracurricular activities unless there are unusual circumstances that need to be considered there there is and dave i'm going to let you speak to this and any other administrators you can chime into keisha has waived the mandatory attendance one hour of attendance piece right that was for any kid that was home school virtual they used to have to be to participate be on site for at least one hour they have weighed that now
088and talking with uh mr wentworth stacy and i with a lot of our coaches just don't feel that it makes sense if they don't feel comfortable coming to school why are we going to allow them to come in practice for contact and things like that or even more it may be smaller numbers but they're still going to have greater amount of contact within a sporting or an activity event because of close contact so thoughts or discussion well my thought on that too is that we're doing a lot to ensure those kids are healthy by checking temperatures making sure they clean their hands every hour separating the small groups if necessary we can't guarantee that they might be at home but i mean they could also be outside you know for a couple hours correct who
089knows so we can't see and control that stuff so i have a very long same lines i mean there's also instances where crop temperature kids don't get out there but we're making this across the board right with all athletes and activities that get you guys pick and choose things with it right i i agree with we're going we're doing everything you know i think and for your acacia has recommended that all at any occasional activity before they go to practice they're checked again and with our drug testing if they're not at school i think it's unfortunate case you did that but i have a fear right now the whole semester they're branding on going online you know but if athletics is still a possibility that's what we should do yeah correct so that's what he
090pushed for because yeah we've been playing hoops up there and they've been talking about that for the last month and a half up there trying to push that process the problem is gonna so they've already had these conversations about so that's probably why i got pushed through is because they talked about the kid who only wants to go to school for athletics and if you don't let him do it there's going to be a lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit so i mean there was a lot of conversations up in kansas city about that i think they finally said fine we're not going to have the lawsuits you don't have to you don't have to spend an hour in school and if the school so none of the schools up there from what i've known from
091the kids that you talk to so i don't know if they know all the right answers but they're going there's nobody requiring them to meet that hour in any way whatsoever even before so i don't i think here if we make our kids come to school to play sports there's going to be some issues but if that's what you guys want to do then i don't know that i'm against it i just think it's going to be rough any other questions comics there's just a very short quick survey that we're going to ask students to take and this will be in a different survey before i just put in microsoft word but it'll be a more survey friendly format so you can kind of see what it's going to ask we need to know the
092name of the student at which building they attend we're going to ask them to fill one out for each student and then which model london do you choose for your child and it's spelled out there i don't know if we need to put any more specifics if you think that anything else and basically it's going to be four choices in abcd and then we provide a space below for some comments are you even making sure that everybody doesn't know no we're going to ask i mean we're going to queue this up as a matter of fact as soon as the meeting is over uh doug and i will cue this up to get ready to send out to parents and meet if not tonight tomorrow and and we're going to ask we're going to send
093out like ever bridge notification we're going to do everything again put it on the website please complete the certain week we need as many people as possible because again we truly need to know are we talking about one or two or three kids per grade level are we talking about maybe one of the grade levels it's it's 30 kids and so we need to be prepared and we want to be able to work with our staff to be prepared to meet their needs so um we've got a quote that's approaching 500 now so we're at about 60 something percent somewhere in that neighborhood a lot of people treated that like a family survey though because it was anonymous so you know you got five kids right they're just like it's the same for everyone so
094there was nothing that forced you to do five of them right okay and so that's that's sorry did this go this didn't go out the registration packet then this one did not though no we sent out a survey to families three maybe three weeks or so ago approximately yeah so yeah it's been three weeks so this one again this one shouldn't take people very long again if you look at it you should be able to fill this out in a couple three minutes if you have to think and consider which one it may take you a little bit more if you have some comments to put down may take you a little longer but this will help us it will help us one thing i thought about we may want to put grades down like
095the name and the grade grade that your student program put a check box for great bonus and then we'll give them check choices all right it is going to include on this survey that if i sign up for remote learning that i will not be allowed to take part in the extra according to curricular activities and we talked about the requirement of what they must have in order to be at home thank you for catching that okay can uh there be something in that like a direct link to what those all look like like definitions or whatever i mean they're going to be some people that are really busy and i can see these things they're just going to get the text or the survey or email and be like whoa what is this stuff
096when we include with that a link of this on-site that kind of stuff explains learning it's all listed there so we can do that right within the survey also within the question of the survey we've got the ability to so that tends to get that tends to get better rad just for that very reason we'll add some of the definition he's there yes so the bottom two potentials i will homeschool my child i will have my child attend to virtual school those those two even if they're in our district are uncountable as students in our system then right correct and those already exist i mean we're just adding the remote learning one those three options there's three of those options that always include yeah we'll add some for that grade level button there on that
097as well as the some more different definition defining on-site line remote learning we can do that we have that for the other document some questions which building do you gotcha thank you thank you my appreciation for the teachers and what they're getting ready to go through is most high for myself right now and what they're getting ready to do with the online plus in class you know and i know that the tech department and we're now i appreciate the one extra day for them to train in the areas that they've already kind of had a little training in but that's i guess if i have a fear and i want patience is because of what a lot of our teachers are going to go through that will be a little new yes they've been on
098microsoft themes they know some of these things but being in front of a class of 15 or whatever with one it's going to be a little different and then to try to get those some of those things out there to those kids it's going to take us some time and you know i i do appreciate them tremendously i guess i'll just reiterate what i said friday there's going to be some hiccups in this whole deal i mean it it's not going to be perfect but we know that we're on it we have a good team in place to fix it as it goes and so uh if that's anything i mean it'd be great if it was 100 percent with it it's probably not going to it's it's going to look very different than the
099continuous learning yeah the amount of rigor has to come to a whole new level like but it's going to be like in the boxing setting you know there may be some additional things and on top of the classrooms that he's just still a difficult day is going to look different yes move through the hallways the placing kids where they have to come in especially in my area where they haven't had cd charts in all the classes things like that they're going to end up with i think a lot of people had a chance to speak i don't know if diana has had a chance but i know she was she was instrumental and her group that uh worked with food service and continuous learning as well as tracy moore and others the our bus and
100transportation department getting meals i mean wow just incredible i know diana is a person a few words but i don't know if you have anything you want to add that's a good point because we brought this up friday i believe so if the kids are doing online learning at home do we have to provide them yes we do and so we have something set up for them but it's not free it's our their statuses yes one kind of concern i have is i don't want i mean this is hard all the information is going to come out slowly in different ways because we're still developing a plan but i want our parents to have as much information as they can to make this decision and know that we're doing everything to get those kids back
101in school safely and i don't want i don't want something to say i don't know what's going on so i'm just going to do remote learning i want us to try to get that information out there to all the parents and how we do that is you know facebook or emails or you know whatever but to get the information out what we're going to do the extra launch you know all that stuff other than just the generic maybe all of our digital signs saying so if those people are questionable or saying like a big change that we can personally contact and say add more information hey what's going on what can i help you i mean i've had a phone conversation with a parent a couple times today you know let me find out more
102and just help maybe facilitate another survey question is would you be willing to contact us to talk about something where i mean maybe so choosing an option is i would like to speak with somebody from the school yeah to discuss options specific for my family i can put that as one of the five on which model of learning [Music] help guidelines prior to asking for the survey you almost have to do that even though you said that to me everything that we have here it's going public tonight with the understanding that again there could be so much i think i think that's a given now in our world there can be flexible areas that be flexible and there could be some adjustments but this that was the goal of i think first of all friday's
103meeting to support us moving forward and then today's meeting is to support us with a plan that is going to be flexible we'll take input from i mean we've got again this advisory committee is very lengthy we've got our staff now that will have information okay this is what we're looking to do and then they will be given information back to us to be given information back to biuta and kathy freeman and her group uh there's gonna and of course when we get it out social media on social media through the republican as well as the advisory committee those people will spread it to five to ten to fifteen different poor people that they have i mean they're we're really trying to hit this hard fast and give as much information as possible what's the
104thing that sends me updates about weights in the morning yeah is there i mean who would you say that the board has approved these red lines we would check these out that's our that's our direction as soon as as soon as we get done with this meeting doug and i are gonna pow out for a little bit good yeah i'm here hey can you repeat i'm sorry what do you have anything to add i mainly i can eat i can hear craigslist what is it we weren't sure if you had any anything any other input or anything to add no i think uh though i had a couple questions and they got answered as they were talked about i wondered about the paris being able to get some more hours and he talked about that
105so i'm good to go thank you so i'd like to thank everybody for your participation in there and so what oh oh you've got a motion here so motion to approve the school safety and learning plans for the 2020 2021 school year have presented yeah we [Music] motion approved to the school safety and learning plans for the 2020 2021 school year has amended i couldn't know on my vote [Music] in favor aye yeah all those in favor try your right hand for you i'm better okay so it's a six stop one thank you thank you take care we'll see you later it's kind of interesting have you ever asked anybody in all these surveys what's sort of internet news