001um all right we're gonna go ahead and call the meeting to order I mean it's gonna remind everybody um if you're here to go ahead and sign in a visitor vlog s nobody has ever asked me how cool okay we will have approval of the agenda okay okay there's a motion by a chat and a second by Josh all those sorry discussion discussion we can't change it it's a special meeting anyway but all those in favor who say I I promotion passes and the reason we are here tonight and I appreciate everybody coming to our special meeting tonight is for discussion of the Wilson Attendance Center and particularly um to hear from this line of diocese and the discussion of a private Catholic School possibly going to the exhibit Center and with that I will
002let you introduce yourself all right I'm Jeff Andrews I'm the superintendent of schools for the Catholic Diocese of Salina this is my third year as superintendent and prior to that I've been to the public schools and uh USD 305. to my left is Father Fred Gadget he's the pastor at the Cathedral at Sacred Heart Cathedral in downtown Salina he's the bigger General so kind of the vice Bishop I guess if you will and then Dr Nick compignon Dr campagnon has been with the son of diocese since 1977. he just retired last year he's been my mentor as superintendent he's our public policy and accreditation consultant as well and he does work at the state level with private schools for us so um he's been a great uh I guess benefit for me in this role
003as superintendent so just want to tell you guys a little bit about our diocese so you know how our schools uh act and then so I've got a 17 minute video if you know we feel like we've seen enough of it we can hit pause and we can move on and just discuss and then I've got a proposal that I'll present to you guys that's one page and and then we can kind of answer some questions and go from there so thank you so much for having a special meeting just for us to come to Cleveland tonight we really appreciate it so uh Mr lower if you can hit play this is from our five-year accreditation cycle that ended last spring Central Northwest Campus and covers over 26 000 square miles there are 86 parishes
004and 15 schools in 10 different counties schools represent a vital part of any society and our major source by which the wisdom and culture of a people are passed to new generations Catholic schools reflect the importance of integrating the Catholic faith with the educational process therefore the church sponsors and supports schools as the major vehicle for pursuing its Teaching Ministry in order for the church to carry out the goals of this ministry the Catholic Bishops in the United States have established nine characteristics that define the Deep Catholic identity centered in the person of Jesus Christ contributing to the evangelism contributing to the evangelizing mission of the church distinguished by excellence committed to educate the whole child steeped in a Catholic world sustained by gospel Witness shaped by communion and Community accessible to all students and
005established by the expressed authority of the bishop the governance of the Salina diocese is headed by very Reverend Bishop Gerald Beach Bishop he enjoys visiting schools and talking with students teachers and families about their faith and education each grade school is operated by a local Parish this line of diocese has two Diocesan secondary schools Thomas More preparing and Hayes and Sacred Heart and Salina other secondary schools in the diocese are operated by their local Parish all schools are under the supervision of the Diocesan superintendent working with local advisory councils of Education leadership consists of Pastor and principal for each School the diocese follows compliances which were which were applicable were applicable at Kansas State School Board the diocese also works alongside and follows compliance issued by ksde this includes teacher licensure educational standards and health
006and well-being of students our commitment to the ksde foundational structures are embedded throughout our schools these foundational structures are supported through the Office of Education on this planet of the Salina diocese the mission statement flows to the schools that are served in the Salina diocese the related studies were started at the beginning of the cycle and set up our Diocesan goals these studies are from the local state and National level since 1993 all the schools in the Salina diocese have been accredited through North Central ncea Advanced day using the cognia standards in this cycle all the schools followed a district model in seeking accreditation this will also align with seeking accreditation with ksde each year ncea collects National Data that mirrors the Mayhill strategies for the first time in two decades ncea reported an increase
007in enrollment in Catholic schools across the United States there are over 1.6 million students in Catholic schools over 21 are racial minorities for the 2021-2022 school year the Solana Diocese Catholic schools has 2253 students in prepaid through 12th grade this is a 2.7 increase from the 2020-21 school year over this cycle enrollment in the diocese has sustained the five high schools have 373 students enrolled and the diocese has received the Gold Star Award from ksde for post-secondary success enrollment Trends during the last three years have been stable overall even during a global pandemic the preschool numbers include both three and four-year-olds and therefore results in a higher number than the single grade shell considering the communities that have Catholic schools have lost population or disciple and the impact of covid the schools of this line
008of diocese have continued to be consistent with enrollment numbers and in some locations have even seen growth students across this line of diocese have consistently had high daily attendance rates averaging nearly 97 percent this indicates that students have a desire to attend school even with covid these rates did not waver modified quarantine classrooms were utilized instead of remote learning thus keeping students in school the Salina diocese has a large majority of fully licensed teachers in our classroom this indicates a Diocesan Community to retain quality teachers in all of our schools in our last accreditation cycle there were concerns as Financial liability enrollment growth and the communication of each school's mission to the wider community Diocesan and National studies indicated that these strategies which help to shape our goals for the current accreditation cycle there's a
009lot of diocese helped create a school communication plan including recruitment strategies public relations brochures websites and newsletters were enhanced the goal was to increase enrollment and maintain viability the diocese invested in the Communications Department that was tasked with web page to create social media engagement and Publications the webpage exists to promote and inform stakeholders as well as a landing spot for all schools the communications department has also spread the good news about Catholic schools throughout the Salina diocese utilizing social media platforms monthly newspaper quarterly magazine and even a podcast through this cycle the challenge of the pandemic did affect operations due to the shutdown of the school in March of 2020. despite those hurdles enrollments to stay the schools also took advantage of government funding and coverage to recover from Financial losses the average cost
010to educate a child in this line of diocese in the most recent fiscal year was seven thousand five hundred seven dollars and 85 cents the schools of this line of diocese are funded through church subsidy tuition fees fundraising and development and also receive grants throughout the diocese the majority of funding comes from each Parish many of our schools participate in a variety of federal funding the focus of these funds with an estimated total of 8 million dollars covered several important areas professional development of teachers increasing the number of paraprofessionals establishing tutoring programs as well as counseling and Health Services at an enrichment overall technology Improvement was made possible Summer Academy was created and we also received equipment to mitigate covid the Salina diocese established a scholarship granting organization scholarship granting fund for the Catholic Diocese
011of Salina to utilize the state of Kansas tax credit scholarship program this year the sgo awarded 171 thousand dollars in scholarships for students in grades K through it through eight throughout the diocese these scholarships help students from low socioeconomic backgrounds schools across the diocese implemented strategies to reach out to communities in dealing with social emotional issues professional development was focused on the seven themes of Catholic Social teaching to help teach on social justice issues a majority of the schools have used frenzy but social emotional tool in the classroom to teach positive behaviors and interactions with peers the seven themes of Catholic Social teaching has also been shared in the register which is the Salina diocese newspaper the results from the ncea's Mayhill study in 2016 rebuild Catholic schools vitality and reasons why parents involve their
012students using the cognia platform this line of diocese created a parent perception survey modeled in the medical study according to those surveys the top reasons why parents enroll their children at our schools include Catholic identity class size and school reputation using the same survey there were a few challenges noted by our parents although still receiving over 75 percent strongly agree or agreed parents stated that our schools could improve overall in promoting a diverse learning environment student respect towards each other and keeping the parish informative activities these will be areas where our schools will look to make significant improvements listening to all stakeholders is important for our schools during this cycle teachers also completed a survey a teacher survey on the climate and culture of each building was conducted through the cycle generally teachers have a
013positive have positive perceptions of their school abilities in regards to expectations teachers feel that students are learning students are able to explain their word and students are understanding what they're learning according to the latest Elliott observations high expectations were observed in our classrooms at a 3.41 out of four point scale in regards to teachers completing their work they feel deliberate patient and calm and describing how teachers work with colleagues they respond to their caring hopeful supportive and honest and referencing recent data for million observations well-managed learning was observed at a 3.63 on a 4.0 scale students in grade three for five were given a climate survey asking for responses on the classroom and school environment students described our schools as caring fun and honest when sharing of the activities they do most often in class
014is reported that students most often listen to teachers think work with others and write our students also report the complete worksheets and only work on short term and long-term projects fifteen percent of the time this implies there's a need for more active learning using project-based learning students in grades 6 through 12 are given a climate survey asking for a response on the classroom and school environment students responded they are learning seven percent and understanding 54 of the time since we see perceive the teachers as honest caring and fun and students also report when working with a teacher they listen they know to ask a teacher and they hear things from the teacher like we will be working on and explain it the general climate of interactions with adults and building a respectful helpful and supportive
015while in school however our students report feeling tired forward and challenged implications of these challenges perhaps of this that the secondary buildings may look into building modifications or improvements to meet 21st Century Learning and the latest accreditation cycle the visiting teams know that a need for integration of technology in the classroom while the infrastructure was in place it was not fully developed Elliott observations also indicated a need to improve the area of active and digital learning a technology plan for pre-k-12 included strategies for technology at each level a stream curriculum was outlined at the Diocesan level a consultant was hired by the diocese to facilitate stream at the voting level Covenant did impact the progress of implementing this curriculum a positive outcome occurred as we recognized our need to adapted our program to accommodate remote
016learning new platforms programs and devices set a foundation to enhance digital learning with help from the Communications Department at the diocese a web page was created to share the great things happening in our schools with stream learning a logo was created to help raise awareness to stream learning and multiple pictures were added to show our students in action a visitor can look at stream in each area as well as read about the 10 characteristics of a streamed School s also share stream learning activities on their own social media pages so parents and parishioners can see the diverse learning happening in the classrooms over the cycle students in the Salina diocese has consistently performed well on state assessments when compared to the state with 43 to 45 percent of students scoring on level three or four
017on maps State assessments the Iowa Test of Basic Skills data in math was used to monitor progress for streams during the years of 2018 to 2022 the data shown Compares Iowa assessments from 2018 to 2022. due to remote learning it was difficult to Major with certainty to growth pattern however the last two years seemed to indicate positive growth in Great Escape through Wade which with each grade level consistently testing well above 50th percentile each year similarly students in the salon of diocese have performed well on science data assessments to compare with the state 51 to 50 56 of students scoring in level three or four on signed State assessments the itbs data and science was used to monitor progress during the years of . each grade level seen success in science in scoring in the
01860th to 70th percentile each year in the English Language Arts students of Northern Catholic schools and the diocese also perform developing peers at other schools during the five-year cycle 53 to 54 of students scored a level three or four on Ela State assessments students in our schools have performed well on the ACT each year with a composite score of 23.3 in 2021-22 school year in math students scored a 22.7 and in science of 22.8 the stem score is a 23. Elliott is a classroom observation tool developed by Advanced Ed the purpose of this tool is to record observations that pertain to Student Activity and learning in the classroom to measure progress on our stream goals active and digital learning were focused on during this cycle our digital learning scores increase from 1.99 and continue to
019the cycle for 2.14 as we near the end of the cycle we also saw a growth near supportive learning our supportive learning scores increased from 3.66 to 3.77 this is significant since the schools have a wide array of learning needs our Active Learning scores also increased from 3.29 to 3.43 teachers are striving to have students especially since returning creating a community that cares and respects for each other is extremely important to our teachers and Families although a challenge navigating the pandemic while utilizing and implementing new technology proved to be a very valuable experience for our schools according to survey data from students teachers and parents indicate that learning activities were present in classrooms achievement that it did show some progress in classroom observations demonstrating good classroom management and active learning however there were indications on
020some surveys that Active Learning could be more enhanced with more Hands-On long and short-term projects and less dependency on individual worksheets during the covid-19 pandemic schools were able to enhance technology resources in the classrooms as well as ADD many platforms that students are able to utilize on a daily basis these technologies will enhance Active Learning in the classroom looking forward another goal for the schools in Salina diocese is to prepare the students for Life After High School by implementing individual plans to study at the high school level and by exposing all of our students to careers starting at a young age we are taking the necessary steps to prepare our students to be successful in whichever career God leads them school counselors and administrators collaborating to align courses in PowerSchool to better assist students in
021planning and the schools of the diocese shifted from Career Cruising to using cellular grades 6 through 12. during the course of the cycle the diocese worked with ksde and Smoky Hill service center in developing an infographic for career clusters unique to our diocese to align with the Kansas career clusters infographic that shared across the state elementary schools focused on Career awareness and pre-K in fifth grade this includes exploring different careers within the Pre-K and five curriculum along with inviting speakers from the community to discuss careers and to investigate businesses and services that serve the communities in which our students live on the secondary level students in grades k-6 utilize stello to explore their interests strengths and career options this helps students prepare for options at the post-secondary level including college and careers working with counselors
022mentors and parents students are in the process of creating their own individual plan of study the Kansas cam Vision stays at Kansas can lead the world in the success of each student the schools of this line of diocese take that Vision very seriously every student is different in preparing students for Life After High School is a partnership between parents and our schools the high school graduation rate is over 95 percent and the success rate and effective rate are very high compared to similar size districts the Salina Catholic Diocese has been recognized for its achievements by receiving the following Kansas can Awards Silver Star for high school graduation for OnStar for academically prepared for post-secondary gold star for post-secondary success and the commissioner's award though Catholic theology recognized his parents as being primarily responsible for the
023education of their children achievement of these principles is shared by faculty by faculty members the parish and the diocese the Catholic schools of the Salina diocese are committed to fostering environment of support and coordination for Catholic schools or principals faculty and students it also seeks to maximize opportunities for Quality education in a Catholic School setting now you guys can all wake up it might be the second view on that it can catch everything or you want to watch it again it is on YouTube you can go to our guys Diocesan website and then click on that and catch anything uh that you feel like you might have missed like after putting that together I just told Dr campanio and I can spell his first name wrong on that last slide so what I'm passing out
024now is a proposal foreign for what we would like to be able to do uh in Wilson so with the closure of grades 7 through 12 at the Wilson School building the capitalizes of Salon would like to propose a lease agreement with USD 112 for use of some of the space materials and the ability to share common employees under the accreditation of the Diocese of Salinas Catholic schools Wilson Catholic Junior Senior High School would organize as a 7 through 12 Junior Senior High School offering courses in religion English Math Science Social Studies business art music Beauty and bow Tech as well as Opera special education services with Central Kansas cooperative and education accreditation is recognized by ksde and we are the first diocese in Kansas to seek and gain accreditation as a system as others
025currently seek accreditation by individual schools the Catholic schools of the Slime and diocese also follow Casey requirements with teacher licensure we've proposed the sharing of as many staff as possible including principal and counselor the use of the cafeteria office space shop gyms and Library would also be beneficial to both schools Wilson Catholic School released the building and teaching equipment inventory and future purchases by Wilson Catholics who have become property of the newly organized school we look forward to building a partnership with USD 112 to help serve the Wilson community so we'd love to answer any questions that the board has for us why not at K-12 right now the k-6 is open that's what I'm aware so we're not going to be interested in that came through um possibly web sports activities if there are
026enough students at the school to play sports and form the teams as they are then they'll play on their own for instance Sacred Heart and TMP play their Sports on their own for the most part they Co-op for soccer team because we're based on softball with lacrosse uh St Johnson Beloit co-ops with Tipton Catholic for their Sports other than typing Catholic does their own track uh in their individual sports like that but we can come up with the local public schools have that so if you saw there one of the slides was average cost of education is about 7 500 I think it was so that's all of our schools K-12 a high school does cost significantly more to run so a high school is about 11 to 12 000 stocks 11 to 12 000
027per pupil to educate them so funding for that but with the sharing of some staff members that could be beneficial to k-6 so the USD 112 as well as in schools because USD 112 would then be able to claim part of our students so for instance if we share a music teacher an art teacher PE or whatever it is then USD 112 could claim part of our students and get per fuel pay from the state so whether it's a 0.1 a 0.3 a depending on how long they have the class they would get it still get State money for that USB 112. and then like the hot lunch program twisting 112 it's still service the hot lunch and they'd be able to get the money for the student's problems program any interest in buying the
028building I mean we're not sitting out a whole lot of cash or anything like that so I mean it would really have to I'm sure there could there could be some discussion about that our CFO was going to come today or you know I'm starting to keep it down what I wrote this up with is what I knew like at the time since the 7 through 12 is what was closing and that's what I put on so what's your minimum student uh availability do you have a school I mean you would hopefully want about 7 to 15 kids per class would be nice to have at least I mean it'd be great to have 25 get to the class but we operate St Xavier Catholic High School or K-12 in Junction City and there's three
029seniors and there's 14 Freshmen but a lot of those 7 through 12 teachers that we may teach all whether it's just like any small school would know but I have the same math teacher all five years but they're all six years seven to twelve but intimidating yeah Tipton has 15 total 1912. so that they kind of have a difference set up their Elementary School uh doctor correct me if I'm wrong with the elementary school is a public charge school and there's cost sharing between the two buildings the high school girls diocese and Charter School runs on its own aspect this whole working relationship is going to go down to nitty-gritty and the whatever we decide to do as far as the sheriff Austin the state formula how it works and so forth but it is
030worth calling at other schools in some of that responsibilities and even in that road schools we have our sharing and restrictions at the end at the great school so it can work but this needs to be soon just basically you pay assessment to Salina or specialized services you know can we pay anything the ckcia for special ed services so it's part of the co-op now we do now yeah so thank you thank you certain percentage of our students 20 and if it needs a lot of successful um and basically it's coming out of federal funding and it's based on the means and our schools do work and keep track of their record keeping system uh staff as far as the river staff that we need is what whether it's an LP person um and then
031there are some instances on the lower levels of where some students because we don't have the services five things Five Guys you've got a bus with 12 percent oh I think 16 percent and that's all whether it's uh speech services uh learning disabilities gifted Services I think abouts that are two percent and with that we are kind of uh at the mercy of Central Kansas Co-op and education like so we have a Catholic grade school at Abilene and this year they've pulled services from facilities so instead of how the special ed teacher would be there in the ability to say you know two hours in the afternoon our students get bus to the local public school for certain value today you think you've had teacher on site there our students take that Suburban over there
032you might share the class student classes interactions of good teacher the average student costs the other time your highest and lowest yeah so uh like tuition fees comes down to the at the local level so the parish would work with the school council and figure out the funding for that so the diocese doesn't provide like we give 85 dollars per pupil that's it to the local Catholic school at the rest so we've got to come up with about eleven thousand dollars per kid to educate that's just rough asthma that we only have four kids per class that maybe it's going to be 19 000 for people to educate you're still gonna have teachers there and keep the lights on uh the Paris would give a certain amount and that that Parish would decide that of
033how much they could give maybe it's 15 of the weekend collection every week it goes to the school and then fundraising event would have to make up the rest and then what doesn't they'd have to send the tuition so that's Sacred Heart and Salina uh if you have one kid and you make over 140 000 a year as a household you're going to pay eight thousand four hundred dollars now if you have four kids and you make over that you're only gonna probably pay sixteen thousand dollars total uh in Haze if you have a kid that goes to TMP you pay fifteen hundred dollars if they go to grade school you pay one thousand dollars so you can see the vast difference is if you tipped it I think it might be eight hundred dollars
034right now Beloit I think it's about three thousand and caps Edge six thousand dollars per family so every location is different depending on what they can do at the local level as far as what the payers can provide and what they can do fundraising and in a lot of the smaller uh areas you know there are clinical development all the Community Foundation where there's x amount of Sciences our parents and our schools they're still paying the full property tax rate as well they don't get a break on their property taxes because yeah um well if I explained how a religion classes of my work like you did last week yeah there was a number of parents that were asking how that would work because if it's going to be a Catholic School the kids will
035take the theology class every year from partner and I one of the things Jeff didn't mention in addition to being the victory General that has your eyes I'll teach five days when you can think of our eyes and a number of my students are not Catholic students and as I explained the other night in Wilson I didn't even know it I mean they just come out just teach them and usually in the last three years I've been teaching I like to kind of find out you know in a roundabout way I mean I'll ask some questions and say what do you think about that you know when you went to Mass on Sunday well father I'm not Catholic Paul I didn't know that so uh we just teach them and the idea being that um
036they're not we don't proselytize we don't you know if it's a written assignment and they don't agree with fine give me a reason Okay so that it's it's it's from the outside looking in the Bible kind of like you're kind of on some difficult change around but from the inside and quite frankly part of the accreditation process we that we have with cognia is to help support the mission of their Catholic school so our foreign but down the hall of your teaching biology yeah well I teach my kids Evolution yeah in my theology class you know you know here's what Charles Darwin said and I explained it so I just again I told him last week I'm a I'm a scientist I have a degree engineering from Kansas State and so my first thing was
037science so I have trouble pulling back and forth those are issues with the media GSW to cause problems and the students would also attend religion during the day uh you know if it's at 8 A.M it's not like the students would show up at 8 45 and say hello I'm not so I'm not going to realize that that's not a that's the deal breaker it's not an object you know as far as what is your student approved process and I'm sure that they apply and go through that exceptions what is your problem because there's there's really not a a major screening process if they want to go some over pretty much admitted unless they've been kicked out of a public school for 180 school days or something like that like we're not admitting anybody like
038that if we can educate the student with the resources that we have we are invested like if they're performing at a low level this is what they went to before it or give it a shot so uh the admissions process is pretty simple there's no I think people think because I was at a retreat a few weeks ago at ringneck Ranch actually is where they posted it with probably 30 other superintendents and sometimes the private schools get the bad rap they think oh well you don't even teach in holler you guys are going to feel that we we have all types of students that we teach so I think I think there's a idea that it's just like this private schools are just Country Club schools not not an assignment diocese that are found what
039should we do encourage our principal to someone be trying to find out what happened if there is something major illegal then um do we know what our percentage of students well it's out of History is what is out of District uh there's 15 out of District students that is that just seven through twelve yes now is that the same thing if somebody's at a district he's still got to accept them or in in eye of them because we don't have like District last chance so for instance in Hayes if you come from the Hayes Catholic schools are supported by three large Catholic churches in the Hayes and then the five six or seven outline parishes uh around so like and Catherine at those smaller communities give a portion of their collection because they have a
040lot of students that maybe go to that school they want to keep those Catholic schools open um so if Wilson at the local level said well you know you don't attend uh church here and then your feet are going to be that much then that would be designed at the local level but yeah if you could you live 30 miles away we have kids that go to boys St John's that live in June let me Concordia and even though the diocese considers that district with the state the local autonomy from the local level is very important does not work unless there is available so for example if you heard me mention if you were able to stay away because we have local school councils and their advisory so each School of Elementary or high school
041has a local school council that advises the uh pastor and the principal so the authority lies with the pastor the principal runs the school runs the banks by the pastor and the school council is advisory so they might they might do some votes to see what things are thought about they're there to provide advice uh to the pastor and the principal we do not have a Diocesan School Board I work at the hall down from the bishop he talks to me every single day hey Jeff keep me up to date or hey I was in um Colby and her visit about our grade school can you bring me up to date on that today email me there's a school shooting in Nashville know we know 14 or 15 of our 14 or 15 articles are
042very well secured one we are working on and he said you know even yesterday it was too late get on that and I explained back hey I've got we do have things we'll come this summer and but he's still you know keep yourself debate on those things so and if you've heard about that in the presentation done a lot of the compliance and stuff that required by state because of the great nation be the same um I'm not going to go through all that but 90 of the compliances that apply to Public School Systems so you talk about security we get into this building and we release it to you and you guys feel that there's not enough security he takes care of that responsibility it would have to be uh proposal between the two
043sides say what can we do I mean I would I Public Schools were much more secure than our schools I'll tell you that right now so I guarantee your problem it's more secure than a lot of places because I just think of if we're talking about security any church you go to for the most part it's wide open you know so now our schools are not as wide open as our parishes but right quite frankly most of our buildings are considered private is not as accessible as a public school building would be it's number one number two we do have a an insurance company that guides us the actual security building up to our audience which I I assume so thank you any more questions personal Community thoughts good bad McDonald's thing that could be
044thrown a monkey wrench into this is that they're still into bigger talking to legislature print out a possible Bill to get an extension that's I'm sitting here pleased with your approach has been your information but also there's a bill there that was already past the house and the Senate is doing some Provisions I think on it that would basically that the local back in our situation here one person could could uh if they'll help me out so that if one person had a problem with the closure which there have been they could uh get a petition started and then take it uh if that went through under whatever the guidelines are set of the bill in the process it could appeal to the State Board of Education the way I understand it is the State
045Board of Education would listen to both sides and come up with an advisory decision send it back to the board with maybe different options to consider maybe following what the board proposed to start with or maybe doing something else but it's still up to the board to take that Bob decision well I understand I hate to Hate to say too much because I'm not it amended this so much I've heard that today they've admitted it cut out a struck down yeah many pages to very few pages right now yeah so I don't know I got to get on and see an actual bill if it's posted again I talked to somebody this afternoon again on that but the one thing that the bill does not want to do is take away local control they want
046the school board to maintain local patrols they're just giving I think the basis of the bill is to have an option to reconsider I only bring that up because that would if that went through and I don't know if it will because the governor would sign that bill the date I heard was April 9th and I'm sure that process would get started in Wilson so I don't know how that would affect whether people would still want to do that and they know brought up our trying to maintain Public Schools I don't know we're in a quandary here as far as that's what we've been trying to get another year extension so we can some of these things straightened out and make a decision for it so and hastily don't answer your question or not I
047think I think to answer that as far as the Catholic school I think was very well received I'll talk to his parents today they're they're fine with it and look forward to it but sometimes we gotta think we don't know what's going to happen on the public side with the bill so I would say I have I also only heard positive things but it's been from I think those that would support it I haven't heard a lot of people you don't hear the negative yeah usually I do well but I mean because maybe some of those people already made their decisions today we're good with coming you're going there going there yeah so I mean I think in general I think the feedback that I've done is positive the outliners that see you know Catholic
048at the top of the page get concerned but I think it's a more of an educational thing an understanding I mean as a district I think it's a good opportunity for us because when we have half the building when we go we won't have a use for and I don't know how we're gonna paper teachers for things like Clarkson pee for just the elementary students so there's a lot of opportunities in the district hi it's a great opportunity that having two different has a building with two different entities is again I just see could be a headache so we'd have to look at utilities are we splitting down the other are we saying that's why I brought up it would be would you be interested in buying the K-12 or nothing it would be harder
049for us to get that off the ground all that to work did a partnership these first couple years and see where it goes from there because obviously you know maybe we wouldn't utilize more than China because the high school in Chicago Elementary so I think we maybe we have 55 percent of the utilities you guys have 45 or what whatever it is 65 35 uh but in Hanover Kansas which is the furthest Northeast of our diocese our Catholic school is a first grade through eighth grade an odd set of I think it's because when they started in kindergarten wasn't a fully you know funded bank or you didn't have to go back then uh so all the students that go to Hanover go to kindergarten at the public school then about 80 to 90 percent
050of them go to the Catholic school first through eighth grade so right now I've got 23rd graders in Hanover in our Catholic school and there's three in the public school classroom at the ninth grade they all go over to the public high school and it works for that town the seventh eighth graders from the public school walk across the street and are top map by our Catholic teacher all of our kids in our building walked across the street for lunch in that building are saying math teacher that has everything in the morning Houston the weight room in the afternoon at the public high school and had a couple of go to the public high school it's just uh the public school principal who's also the head of Basketball Coaches kid as a first grader at
051the Catholic grade school it's a it works for that small town so I was amazed but I went up there it's all about negotiations and your intake yeah and it's a strong partnership the superintendent in there I mean he drives from north of Topeka every day and it's Hanover Lynn and Barnes It's got kind of three towns uh but he's a he went to eighth grade through the Catholics equipment was into education because Jeep area comes back equals this so just it works for that town every time every time well the people see it's really good of their Community gives them an incentive to cooperate and try to work this out if there's a world there's a way I don't think it's a bad deal that major part of that word is guilty uh that
052we got to try to figure out okay he's responsible for defense furnace brings down boiler goes out there goes out it's got that window gets broke on the high school side you know the the second thing is is that okay the enrollment on it uh we're not guaranteed that we're going to get three-fourths that goes to the Catholic School uh we've already discussed prior um if my kid doesn't go to high school here why would my grade school to go here so we're getting that down in that situation again as okay if we lose half of the high schoolers they go someplace else the other half-state Wilson and go to the Catholic Wilson school but they pull half the grade schoolers out if we're in a bad situation as usd-12 so we got to look
053at another decision of okay are we going to try to keep it open uh with half of the enrollment still have the same amount of major costs and what if we lose two-thirds and we've got to close a k through six where are we at I think if we had enough students there I mean there's that Ellis has six kids per class right that's the greatest we started sixth grade a day but I mean it's the community that keeps it open it's the church to see people there yeah I grew up Lutheran my mom still lives in Ellis from Ellison the Lutheran she helped support the Catholic School they think it's great it's very proud well and and that's that's the difference between the community and the church to a school district uh Community the
054church can come up with some more funds uh school districts only allowed so much unless we come up with grants and stuff yeah there's no more begging from the state you know and and it was a multi-billionaire comes in and says hey I'm going to donate millions of dollars and we're still waiting on them so um you know and so yes I I think it's a great deal it it's just a lot of waves um you know and and and it would be tough to say yeah let's go for this and like Roger said something comes up with a build or something where are we at well we understand that I mean I I'm not in the business of closing you know Local Schools also I mean if something came up and there's a there's
055a change that happens that I live for good for 112 and all that I've not you know right it happened what would it take um or where would you be at when you would have actual tuition numbers for people to be able to decide like if they if they would want to be interested in doing that or probably July because we have to get teachers hired black principal you know teachers are assorted right now anyway okay so we hope to say you know anything by July 15th you're going to know what the tuition is we got to open it three weeks so it's steep out wouldn't even be an answer from us I know you guys need to get on the 10th I'll be balancing okay here for that uh but I would think that
056would consider better we're going to perform by the end of this month do you think let me pay to respond to that no I don't know Friday Saturday yeah there's something down you would start next school year there right we should try because I mean if we don't that you're not going to get those students back I mean even if your strong Catholic if you get started today you're at your school and you meet your new friends you're probably going to stay there you know it's hard for those kids to just switch and switch I mean this freshman head I hate it I it ended up working out extremely well but it was tough on him with this Builder talking about about possibly extending the rules of government schools is that what that just be
057for one year or would that be it that much I hate to say too much because I I'm not going to burst it as well as I because it's like Bill said they've changed it I've listened to two hearings who had representatives from Wilson there both there and 10 of them at the hearings the next day they'll change some language in that bill so I don't know where that is today it's it's on YouTube right now tonight I think maybe you know over the next few weeks because of your stakeholders and communities foreign so I guess that would be the one of the things that we don't provide like the bus and services if I could handle it for example correct any exception would be like a Sacred Heart activity buses in there and that
058would fall into the high school sure it's like a sport investment they would need a bus a school to figure out how do they buy one so they have one more advanced or Beloit Lloyd does not have a bus at St Johnson service that's a Friday driving training background checks driver's license checks and then they rotate takes the kids to all the games I think it's possible to come up with startup costs a short amount of time I know that you guys mentioned or Bishop mentioned that falls with our national brand or something to be available yeah one National Grant I looked at you had to be in a state that has school choice right now in case it's not habitable choice or not could be in the future but as right now it's not
059so they're not in here but we have a couple other viewers that was some available it'll certainly cause so the problem with those grants is we need more information to give them to say whatever you need what's your operation costs again yeah and I'm sure it's something that we could discuss just have some talk thank you so much for having a specialty I know it's a lot to come together uh you know when you're called six days ahead so we do appreciate it thank you guys being here and thank you for all the information any other questions sure that Josh all those in favor say aye thank you again yeah thank you thank you everybody for coming okay sure