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April 13, 2026 - Special Board Meeting – April 13, 2026 at 5:30 PM

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2026-04-14
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Nueces County, TX
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2026-06-17

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001Gonzalez here. >> The record show that there is board members on agenda item to the flag of the United States of America. One nation Texas one state. >> Okay, we're moving on to agenda item three, publication. to address boardust. All right. Christine, >> good evening board. Uh, my name is Christine Wilmont. Uh, I just wanted to address because I I do come to the board meetings and I'm just a little possible kind of, you know, um, we're talking about the budget. I know you're going to be discussing the budget and everything. and uh and hearing out there in the red and the red and the red and I just want to get u the last time I remember that the the governor released some money and that's when we get our we got our pay

002raise or something about uh evaluating our our grade level and stuff like that. But uh that money that he gave us, I just would like to know where did that money go? How did we spend it? uh that we're not going to get no raise for at all for this coming year school year 26 27. So I'm just concerned how the money was spent and where did it go that everything's being tight our belt not not just tight your belt in the first loop tight your belt on the fifth hole that kind of situation it's kind of real bad but I hope y'all as yall storming through the budget and this asking these questions and put it out there to the community because we as a community would like to know where our money is

003going and it's being spent at because uh we knew that this was going to happen in our own house budget. We know that that money you don't touch it. That money is going to be for that coming budget for this coming year or whatever. We're saving it for big items or something that we need and to replace. So I appreciate it. Thank you. savings. I want to share that gave basically what happened to us $4,000 but they sent us $4,000 any teacher with five or more years experience, they send us 8,000 and they literally send us 4,000 or 80,000 when um teacher A gets $8,000 us $8,000 cost us $8,000 the addition the state did not send us that then the district board of trustes voted. They said they wanted the minimum salary in WestoST

004to be $15,000. State of Texas did not give up the money to do that decision because they wanted at least $15 an hour. That was not money that was sent to us by the governor. The governor sent for all other raises of $67,000. that was every other race other than teachers was a very very very very small amount of money. The other additional money that was given large amount of additional money was for property insurance that was it. So the decision to do these additional raises is where the money went anything else that's where the money went. 85% of the district's budget roughly is in person. That's what you're going to hear today. The only way really to get where we need to be is to uh places they're doing around. But that's sort of

005in a nutshell where you Okay, good evening. We're going to do a overview of you see that most of school funding 44% Sure. So remember y'all were saying I guess to kind of say to y'all it's hard for us to do a budget if you get what you get if you get projected amounts planning amounts. And this is all of that is the number of times. So between July when we got that initial plan now and um April 2nd it changed 24 times. So we can wake up tomorrow God willing they'll say oh you actually don't have n something you have 10 something. So it's constantly changing based on the exact kind of not just the number of students but the actual composition. So you get a couple of additional um special education students or

006CTE students or this one has dyslexia. They're constantly there's lots of other pieces if you look back to those a lotments that change those numbers. And so it's not like for I think I'm assuming most of you all you know how much money you're going to get per month. It's a predictable thing. It's not like the only time it changes is if you get a raise or if you get something happens. for us it it's again it's changed 24 different times they look at it and this is a payment ledger. Uh so far we've received three different payments you can put in there. There's a 2.7 million a 2.2 million and a 1.7 million. So, and the bottom line, if the summary of finance remains the same, they will owe us still owe us 5.7

007million. But you notice that we haven't gotten anything since November. So, we've gotten property taxes come in, but in terms of, okay, what's a predictable thing that you're going to get every month? And I wanted to show you all that it's not the same. It's not like, oh, if the district's getting $12 million, you know, on April 1, you're going to get a million. March, you know, month is not like that. It's different amounts um each month. >> And this was from the past year, the 2425. If you see on the far right is the payments that were received. And you see that the those the first two are pretty large amounts. Then that November payment, April, May, and June, especially April and May are fairly small amounts. And then they even though if you

008think about okay we need our our cost you're going to get this larger amount of money pretty good amount of money the last two months but it's like gosh it would have been nicer to get that a little bit sooner because those are for the 25 26 school year. Okay, revenue assumptions. As we build the 2627, we have to do several assumptions and uh currently our um enrollment is 1784. However, um we have to make sure we uh scale that down by probably to 93% of that because of ADA. So that would be at 1659. However, whenever we did the TA projection, that was at 1570. So, uh probably our our budget is going to be built around the 1570. So, sure. So, um property taxes uh currently we're projecting uh 1.3 billion. However, the

009certified values don't come out till uh sometime in July 25th. So that's where we'll get the certified value that we will be using to uh build our budget. Um the district does have quite a few transfers. We have 469 which composed of 25.54% um which equivalates to quite a bit of money. It's about like um probably 2 something million. So we do uh generate a lot of funding from transfer students. staffing. Um we have to be uh adjusting our staffing uh according to our ADA because our AD uh ADA had enrollment and ADA have been dropping. So we need to make sure we making those adjustments because those are costing us a lot of money. um because we did give quite a bit of pay raise. The we did the equity and then we did

010the the 7%. We do have we're not going to be able to give any kind of increase this year. We do have to make sure we make up for those increases that we did. Um employee benefit we those are going to go out up. So we're going to modify that to go up from eight 8 to 12% depending on what we're what the rates that we're getting. um facility and maintenance that one. We do have to pay close attention to it. We if we do happen to do a TR, we do have to focus some of that money and and making sure that we are especially paying attention to the roofings that we're needing and the junior high so that we can make be able to sustain a few more years for us. We've looked

011at the stipens and so far there's been 20% targeted reductions that might be able to take place. And the other thing is that we have to monitor classroom sizes. That's really important. >> Sure. So the savings and efficiency plan um again when we meet on the 27th we'll definitely give you more specifics about individual people um although at the if you look um at the report that we sent you the end of March there was already some attrition positions put in there. Okay. So if it says attrition that means we're not replacing that person and so some of that has already been done. We've been having conversations. Um like twothirds of these are going to be some of it's going to be >> what's attrition but I don't know what that is. >> Okay. >>

012It just means like we have five English teachers right now and I'm going to tell you this because these are five math teachers but that's like a ratio of like a 15 class of 15 students. So, we really only need four math and four English. And we've had two retirements. One, well, a retirement and someone that's leaving study full-time in school. So, we're just not going to be hire those positions. So, those people say, "I'm choosing to leave, which is, you know, always if you're having to cut positions, the ideal is to have someone that's already >> But those are the numbers that we already went through. Well, you saw those classes that very small. >> So, um on the stipens, >> where in the book of education does it say that we can't reduce

013stipens? Because if we don't have money and we're paying millions of dollars in stipen, >> we're not paying that. >> Well, we're close to it. Okay. $530 some thousand dollars. Uh where in the books does it say they cannot be reduced? Because we don't have money. We don't have money. >> So we're going to reduce the number of stip times. The wiser thing is to reduce just the number instead of saying we have four basketball three basketball coaches than to cut somebody's. We're not cutting anyone's salary across the >> Well, it's not salary. It's a stipen. It's extra besides the salary, >> right? So, we're saying our recommendation right now is to do it that way. >> No, I just don't see we don't have money and we're paying all this extra money. >> Um,

014we've got to, you know, everybody's everybody around the all the campuses have to tighten their belts. Tighten their belts. >> But athletics, all these coaches, they don't tighten their belts. >> No, we're telling you we're cutting 20%. >> We keep giving them and giving them. We're cutting 20% >> 20% which is stipens >> $80,000. I want to see the exact number though. >> Yeah, I'll just I'll wait for the exact number. >> That's going to be in the next meeting. >> Right. >> Well, again, if you want even on the 27th, I can give you the most specific. I just want to do behind closed doors what I need. >> Right. Right. Right. >> No, no, no. Yes. Yes. Definitely. Definitely. No, but I'm just saying is that the next budget meeting? >> Yes. >>

015Regular board meeting and budget meeting. >> we're having a regular board meeting on the 27th, but we've always on the last in April last budget meeting is where we bring contracts. And so as we're talking through contracts, I can also provide you information. >> And right now CIS, we have them on all campuses. >> We do. Okay. So, we're gonna do >> we did going to talk to Gloria Taylor. She's going to try to write us a grant for the third. So, to give us one for free and then we can see how we want to do this. I'm just going to say junior high is getting that mental health specialist. >> Well, it's a lot of help. >> Yes. >> Tutors. Five tutors. >> We pay for the tutors. The district >> I mean

016grant Right now they're being paid out as federal grants, but it's one of those things if we don't have them, we can use the federal grant to pay for somebody else. So, we're going to have um a the what I sent you all information about yesterday. We're going to have that lift grant. Oh, actually, we have a lift the lift grant where we'll can pay for some tutors. That's money that's going into specifically West Elementary and West. But they they're going to do some creative things um to provide some support the other kids. >> But this is a reduction plan. So you're talking about five tutors >> that we are reducing. Are those those are the tutors that are not being paid through a grant. We're using our our general fund. No, we're using federal

017funding, but it's kind of if we don't if we if let's say this at $75,000, that could be another teaching position paid out of that federal funding rather than the teachers. >> So, they're trying to work on trying to get grants to get the tutors, >> right? >> Yeah. But that's not what this is saying. That's why I'm asking those tutors are five tutors >> that we are reducing. >> Yes, we're reducing. But of course, like she's saying, you're still going to try to get those grants to make up for it because we're going to need tutoring during the year. >> So there's again that and I can go into more detail about the the lift grant which is um it was called strong foundation. The one that grant's going to pay for um some

018support at the elementary say why the elementary that's what we got funding for the funding. So the five represent pretty much JFK and high school >> and you'll also have the detail on the stipens. >> Yes. >> And you'll also have the detail on the teaching staff because right now it says it's a reduction plan. You're saying that twothirds of that 10 is that did I hear correctly is from through attrition. >> Well maybe the teachers might be 100%. Well, I told you I had a couple conversations, but yeah, the vast majority of it is going to be attrition. >> Well, we're still reducing our staff, right? >> I know that this is a work a working document, but as far as what you're introducing right now, it's a reduction plan and with >> we're

019going by the numbers that you're giving me. >> Yeah. Um my teachers six, seven, there's eight eight and then another one of them is going to be like a reassignment. So we're eliminating that position but we're reassigning them to a different position. >> But we're still eliminating a position. >> Oh. >> So yeah, actually >> this is a working document. So these numbers could go >> down up in terms of savings. Yes. Not down >> as far as reducing. Yeah. >> And now we get into the custodians and I know you're going to give us more detail in the next one, but uh >> I just wanted to point out they are contract custodians. They're not >> right. That's what I >> not hear that correctly. I mean the way that I read and that's

020why I wanted to make sure. But even so, Miss Moore, I know I had talked to you about this, the fact that they were still on contract and you still were using them uh, >> right? But they were still being used to a certain extent. Uh that still means that the existing ones all hands on deck because >> as far as cleaning wise, which she can attest to, we came in and that rug is full of dirt and everything. And I I'm just saying as you come into a building, you got to project this image that we're on top of it. We're on top of the cleanliness. we're on top, you know, and it's already showing up. So, that's why I'm saying you you told me, "Oh, no, no, no. It's not the it's not

021the custodians we have. It's the contract ones." The thing is that it's still it's already making a difference. So, your custodians are going to have to do a better job as far as >> Exactly. And that's the only reason I had sent out that uh memo as an email. I know I didn't send it out then as a memo to the board because we do and your teachers have to do the same thing. We all have to. And so do your departments like your finance department, your maintenance department, go in and do a little bit of the cleaning yourself. And we're not saying, "Oh, you need to sweep and mop." But at the same time, we all have been sweeping. >> See you. basketball. >> Okay. >> I I Our teachers work all day. >>

022Oh, the teachers work. >> The teachers are not sweeping them up. I'm sorry. >> Okay. >> In the administrative buildings. >> Okay. But the teachers, you know, I think if there's paper on the floor, there's paper left up here. That could be picked up. That could be picked up. >> But going out and really that that >> it's like changing diapers. No, I don't think we're asking them, Liz, but I I I don't I don't see anything wrong with letting the teacher know that you do need to tidy up. >> That's a matter of just cleanliness as far as this is your classroom. >> Yeah. teaching responsibility that because some do take advantage and some do oh the custodian's going to pick it up and they cut their little papers because they're doing their little

023paper boxes and whatever and it's all on the floor and the teacher sees it and it's like oh who cares the custodian that's what I'm talking about that that is the responsibility of that teacher >> to have that I know I was a teacher we did it and it wasn't anything that Mr. Roarus had to sweep and mop her floor. No, but it was a matter of telling my students this is our classroom. So, we all need to be respectful of it. >> So, that that's what I'm saying. But as far as that, yeah, who's going to clean that that rug over there in the front? >> Add that to the >> She went and got the vacuum >> and she vacuumed it. >> Thank you. >> I But I don't expect for her to

024do that. I expect for your custodians to do that because that still is their job. >> No, but >> yeah, we've been taking responsibility. >> So, you don't have >> the lady's not here anymore. >> What happened? >> We decided to save money. >> Save money. >> Hey, we're talking about We're talking about custodian. So, >> I I just don't see it. I don't see how we we picked these over these. the lowest >> but the lady but the lady is still working. She's still at the high school, right? >> She still this was something separate >> and she's at the high school still working. And if they want to take do some cost cutting up here, I see nothing wrong with it. >> I see anything wrong with it as far as being dirty.

025>> Oh well, yeah, if it's the thing that My staff did it to help me out, too. >> Get down on your knees scrubbing and whatever. Just like B was said, it's just picking up paper. You see? >> I can see that. >> Not a good point to me. >> That's what we chose to do. >> Yeah, that's what you wanted to do. >> Absolutely. >> Of course. >> Okay. So, as you know, we're looking at um a tier. We're not going to go into that right now. There's a whole separate >> what we were at what that building consolidation. You didn't finish >> where old central I called the old central complex, right? >> Those buildings um where sped is currently housed. And then there's room 34, 35, and 29. So, we're still looking

026at where we're going to move some of that, but number one, the portables themselves are in they're kind of in sad shape. Um, and they're in sad shape. Um, yeah, they're part of all JF like trust me that they're in sad shape. Um, so by doing that, we can save money on a little bit of money on electricity. Um, wasn't like fire thingies too that you have to >> Yeah. fire permits and um >> Wi-Fi going out there. And >> so you don't plan on using them anymore? >> Correct. >> Are you planning on selling them or what? >> If we can, that would be great. >> So they were not ever part of the sale of that we were >> still property. >> That would be like when we sell the buses. >> Yeah.

027>> Part of that kind of stuff. >> Yeah. >> Um so the goal would be to do that for the next year. It's gonna take a minute to get all that cleared out, but have that kind of in place. >> So, are y'all gonna auction like the nonwork trust? Can that be something they can auction to as well? >> Um, so then the mental health days, we know it was really popular, but it also cost us, you know, so it's another thing. Um, and then we only have a couple of people, but there's a 16% search charge if you have somebody that's retired and then they get retired because they're, you know, they're basically getting their retirement and this. And so during COVID, the districts were required to pick up those costs. Now that at

028the end of June last year, they kind of reversed that TDA didn't know that the employee So, how many do we have? Three. >> So, they'll be approached to see if they still want to continue. >> And this was through tea. >> It was no longer that we do not have to pick incur the cost. So again, the TI we're talking about in a separate the whole separate thing will be all about Terry the next agenda item, but we could get um about $1.1 million. Um and then we're saying a million for real estate. Again, this is sorry number sorry. So it should be 2.1 um 2.1 million. Um there's also you know But of course when we're doing a budget, you don't budget especially the TR because we won't know about that until November.

029So the we'll have oh we'll have a budget and then then we'll have items if we get the TR we'll do this but we're not assuming that TR end of 26 27 budget >> and that's going to be on this election. >> Yeah. November. >> Who's doing that? >> It's totally separate agenda. I also want let me go real quick on the search charges for the retired rehired. >> Uh I I know we had talked about it. The reasoning behind that is because you are getting a check as a retiree. >> You're getting a retirement check. >> Correct. >> Okay. So I think it was it was to their benefit when COVID came out. I think they did it for that reason because in the school but this time we're not there. So it's not

030like, oh, it's reverting back to the way it used to, >> right? And the school is not coming after you like, no, it's really you're getting a retirement check for that. I just wanted to make that clear because it it Yeah, it does hurt retirees, but at the same time, you are getting a retirement check plus >> Yeah. And I don't think that the school should be penalized for it, and I think TA finally saw that. Um, so we're going to go to a biometric. That just means your fingerprint doesn't go fancy time clock for all employees. Um, we've had three years where we didn't. And honestly, my biggest reason for going back to it is that it creates a lot more of a headache on the payroll side. And so, um, not well payroll,

031but also the retirement and all of that. We have to report all the hours that uh non-contract and contract people work for to TRS and we're having to count and we doing a lot of counting manual work. So >> contract workers don't have to >> but we got to report to TRS. TRS wants to know actual hours that people are working all your teachers or everybody that even though they're not hourly TRS wants it count. And then you have uh the problem that when you're doing that we have a holiday. So then people the system thinks it's overtime. So all of that has to be done manually. >> So without the time clock y'all are doing that manually. So with the time clock is that going to be a help? >> Oh yeah. Why do

032we choose >> because contract employees never >> but didn't we have one to use their phones? >> Yes. within a a limited >> but I want to do fingerprints because >> no I agree with that >> they have to physically >> because the issue was and we're going to come up with a system around that is if I didn't clock in sometimes I'll be honest or especially clock out sometimes I forgot right and I'm I'm I was bad about it I'm sitting here I'm chit chatting it's after a board meeting I walk out I get halfway home I'm like oh I forgot to to clock out right well then I come in the next day and I have to do a a paper that said an A right now in that instance maybe somebody was

033walking up anyway but there's time so then the secretary was going back in with this edit sheet and having to do work when I came in there were so many edit sheets it was ridiculous and so people not so was just creating more work for the secretary so now we're going to have to just create systems around that >> so do we have the time clock to do that already do we have to go out and buy that. >> No, they're there, right? Yeah, >> they're there, but we are looking at it. I don't know. We're exploring to see what we can find cheaper. >> Well, if you're having my question is if you're having those problems right then and there, why are you waiting so long to implement the changes? Now you're saying, "Oh,

034now we had all this trouble, all these months." >> Well, no. What I'm saying is I didn't fully understand the implications. I didn't I didn't fully understand the implication. I was seeing my angle which was people that were finding loopholes around the systems and there were different people that did different things um getting people anyway. >> So, but Mendes saw that. Did you see that? >> So, better communication. >> Yeah. and they could have been fixed back then and >> you have more productivity instead of being bottled up in that >> but the fact that it's happening and you know we talked about it we do have to have better controls I mean you can't you cannot have your employees come in who come in late and say oh I forgot to clock in that

035way they you can do an edit and say I didn't really come in late I came in at 8 o'clock when you know you came in at 8:30. >> Yeah, but you're asking for all these edits, >> right? >> Okay. After a certain amount of time, you would think your department would say, "Stop with the edits. This person has 10 edits every month." >> But doesn't it say somewhere in the bottom that if you see so many edits, you would be called in to >> the when I inherited something, it wasn't working. So, you try something else. you know that has other problems. So, >> so you got to go to the fingerprint. >> Um, so I know you all talked about this, but only we're going to do only certified staff >> tutors. Again,

036we just talked about limited to we junior high. Um the big thing is one of the things that hurt us not that we implemented last year is we extended the salary scale from 20 to 30 years. So what we're going to do is anyone that's grandfathered in, again, we're not going to revert them back, but people that would be move up or people that new people coming in, we're going to go back and cap it at 20 years and you're going to see that um do not advance all leave in August. >> Yeah. Right now what we do is we got the five days and the six days that we need for local and stay. So now this year we're going to give half in August and the other half in January. >> So what

037you were doing, you were already offering them at the very beginning of the year. Here's all these dates you can have. >> Correct. >> Advancing. >> They were Yeah. advanced. So some people would just use them up right away and and so this time we're going to split them up. The reason the ideal way is you prorrate it and give them some each month. However, our system doesn't get us and we don't have the manpower to go in there every month and a need update. So we're going to try doing my handle >> kind of as a mechanism to hopefully get people's attention like oh like because you only have five days of brain might be a little bit different than >> a lot of schools are doing >> um I just singled out a

038band deposit but it might not just be banned but you know I think we had this conversation that West Coast is in charge of families other than cheer and dance right um they're not charging panels, right? And so um we're still like obviously there was and so therefore you know issues of like are you taking care of your instruments because you don't have any skin in the game. Um students paying small fees for extracurricular activities. So we're not going to want a situation let's just say uh Randa Rivera um we're going to the pumpkin patch and her parents are bringing the $5. we'll get someone to cover. We're not gonna leave Moana Rivera crying in her classroom while we go to pumpkin patch, right? But let's ask for the $5. Like, you know, we haven't

039done that. And um most other districts do that way way way more, you know. >> Well, if you're doing it for band and cheer, I think you need to do it across the board for other uh >> Well, that's why I said things for extracurriculars. So, well, I mean, I think that that sometimes just gets covered on its own because I always have parents. >> Here's an extra for the parent for the one that can't. >> We're not even asking even. >> Oh, we're not we're not even ask >> what fund is that going to be deposited into >> the fees. Where is that money going to be deposited at? >> Oh, B. Oh, the others I'm not I'm saying I'm not >> I mean is it going back to athletics athletic guys? >> I'm

040saying let's just pretend let's just say that we said okay you're going on an overnight trip you're paying your own food. So instead of the district >> it's going to the general fund is what I'm ask where are you putting that money >> it would technically go back to the expense item. Wherever it's going to go out from it needs to go back into >> so it zeros out. >> Okay. Yeah, >> they want to come out band like a band instrument. So, if let's say I I'm going to pay $30 a month, that's going to go into the >> general notes or something like that. >> Repair for whatever reason. >> But I'm talking about big dollar items like the band, like the cheer, those small fees for extracurricular. You're going to pump pumpkin

041patch. Really? We never even bothered with that because it was the teacher who picked up that money because it was the teacher who had to go pay the pumpkin patch and I better have >> coming out of our >> we have to pay. They they sent the note home. >> Exactly. >> Well, you sent a permission slip and along in that permission slip. Oh, by the way, we're going to the pumpkin patch. It is $5 to get in. So, it's like what do you propose for baseball? Are you proposing anything for baseball? >> Well, I look at the UI rules. I'm not sure what you can and can't charge for it. >> I think for UIL, you're not allowed to charge. >> Okay. As long as it's not a UIL, we can do that. >>

042But I don't know whether we can charge it for food. >> I think Yeah. >> If they represent Wiso, they need to get fit. >> I do too. >> Exactly. >> If they represent Wish the least they school all day and then they're going to do extracurricular activities when you need to feed those poor people. >> Well, I wasn't even >> if you're going to the pumpkin patch and you needed a lunch that was always provided by the >> C right there. >> Well, even more used to do like the sack lunches kind of deal. >> We don't do so much anymore. >> So, what you were paying for them to go out and eat? >> I think you need to go back to >> Yeah, we kind of helped out because we knew we

043were in trouble. So, we kind of fed some of the trips going out of tent cuz we felt those children needed to eat. Oh yeah. But baseball. Yes, that I understand. But I'm not talking. >> Well, yeah. If you're going out of town, I think that's a given for athletics. >> Yeah. But if you're going to the pumpkin patch and by the way, we're going to spend the afternoon over there. You need to bring a lunch. >> That That was a sack lunch. That was a sack lunch. If your mom send you a lunch. >> Yeah. If mom and dad could not afford it. Yeah. Automatic bag lunch from the cafeteria. You would have to give that count three days before we landed on our field trip. >> So you were talking about like the

044sports. Yes. You need to back home because they >> learned a lot. >> And and that's what they did because I know we just went to a field trip over book and the kids that took lunch, they took their lunch and then whoever didn't take lunch, the cafeteria prepared. you know, the the sack lunch with the drink and all that, >> but that's something that >> but like the pumpkin patch thing just an extra money just take all the kids you're going to take and make sure everybody gets a pumpkin. That's just normal. It's been done since you >> This is just an overview of the 2627 budget. We still need to do a lot of more assumptions, but we're going to base it on probably a 97% collection rate from the tax assessment. And

045then um we're going to have to be more realistic. Look at our ADA at probably 1570. And then that kind of we're looking at maybe an $18 million revenue for the general fund. And then that would trickle down to our salaries and benefits just being a 13.2 million. Currently there is 16 million. So we have to do a lot of cutbacks so that we can make sure we have a balanced budget but this is all like we're still needing to get uh more numbers from the our properties uh valies and certified val. So right now how does our enrollment look for next year as far as we're not very good when you put on enroll you don't >> we just started um but I mean judging on this year you know we're we're exactly what

046we since fall of 2024 we have stayed like pretty stable >> pretty stable >> and we're I know that um Rodriguez was asking me about vouchers and if you look at there's in the fourth packet Um um you know we did a lot more detail. Um we did this part on page 20 page 31. Um it's okay you guys. But basically she started asking about vouchers and so um all indications um it's Dr. You would find out about anyone that was applying for a voucher pretty much or new? >> No, it was just the private school ones that reached out. So we had two but >> that's what I'm saying. The vouchers would be private school. >> Yeah. But we only found out those because they contact us. So there's really no way for us

047to know who applied and didn't apply. >> But for SPE, so explain it to me again when they when they're contacting you, they're saying that you doing, right? >> But it was just because those were those were due. So I don't know if anyone else has applied. >> Oh. Oh, that wasn't the vouchers. >> So I don't know if y'all know this that this make this make sense. Parents can get what up to $30,000 for a special education student, but the school district is the one that's >> but it's only for the it's only for the >> but make that sense. They're not doing their own. >> Yes. >> Make that sense. >> Say that again. Like if I'm going to send you to that school we have to evaluate >> the public school has

048to evaluate >> and then they get to go they get to go and the private school >> and they get the 30,000 >> we did the evaluation >> and we get nothing in return >> well we get a th000 right >> we get00 these are all cost >> these are all costs that we really don't account unless you ask the questions you know It's like the TRS or the retirement when they get a raise. >> We have to pay more out of our our money, which means we have less to go here, here, and here, and here. >> Well, and you're right because it's like somebody's labor. It's not really a line item if you're doing an outside fe, you know, but it is late. >> So, the over let's say on 8,000 an $8,000

049increase that we give, it really cost the district maybe 9,000. I'm just saying. 19,000 >> 10,000 >> right around 10,000 >> that we don't normally see >> right >> because all we think about is the 8,000 but we don't see the additional add-on cost >> the TRS part is really like the you know the thinking is oh the state's giving us this >> so this is just literally the same salary scale as last year except for the That was >> Yeah, that made >> I have a question. >> Yeah. >> And nobody paying me. Okay. >> Assistant principles. I can see an assistant principal at the junior high because in a world where life problems JFK West Elementary I can see because they have over 400 students. But JFK, if a principal cannot handle these

050small children, I I just think we don't need an assistant principal. Back in the day, there was an assistant principal. There was just the principal there and they took care of the whole thing. I can, like I said, I can see West Elementary because of the they got over 400 students. I can see the junior high because they're in that teenage mode. And then the high school, that's another big, you know, but as for the that would be a thing that the assistant princip I just principal at an elementary school that small, that small. uh one person should be able to handle that. And then of course you you still have your what do you call them? Counselors. You have your counselors there. Uh I don't know. I'm not a principal. I don't know. Um

051but I just feel that that would be a big saints towards our like I said J Elementary they've got lots of kids there. And I think they're going to get more. I really believe that they're going to get more. But the elementary school, they're oh, what are they? Six years old at the most. Seven. >> Three, two, three, four, five. >> So, so >> what is the job description of an assistant principal for that campus? Because I know a lot of times they're delegated. You deal with the parents. >> Is that is am I right? Most of the time the assistant principal take off the take the vote off. >> They have to have parent conferences and but the assistant the job description for the assistant principal pretty much the same for the elementaryaries. The

052only one the secondary may have >> so what is a main function >> help to maintain the school order in the school. They do a lot of discipline kind of stuff. Of course, >> meet with the parents and your kid, >> picking up, party, whatever. >> Cafeteria duties, outside duties, those kind of things. >> Bus duty >> uh at a lot of different things at at RSU does like a lot of the communication. Um the newsletter cards are >> Yeah, they share that. >> So, would that campus suffer? Um well they also have I remember you have kids that you know that we have we're identifying kids right you know and sometimes what happens is you don't want to be quick to ident oh actually >> chairman >> I don't agree >> yeah yeah >>

053agree with what you're saying >> because what happens is you know these kids come right and I'm already there a lot of times there's let's say the teacher they're the ones where the teacher is struggling with a student they're there okay let me take help you with that student back to class. >> Not it. No, >> that happens a lot. >> I'm like, well, a lot of times when I'm there, there's kids in I've seen it. We have kids who they're about medicine this week and so they're walking them around the building. They're they're they're dealing with they're calling the parent. Um, sometimes some behaviors would surprise you. We there was, you know, some of the behaviors some of the behaviors would surprise you. So it's a lot of it is to provide some I

054think in the old days you know every time you call parent you need to pick your child you know >> you were able to now you were able to call the parents >> and they still do that some but they do it when it's this >> they don't do it every time a child is disruptive and so sometimes they're they're doing some of that thought a thought partnering in all the things that are going on events programs all anyone want to add something >> well along with the academic portion to being a part of those PLC's and professional learning communities and supporting and coaching the teachers as well. So that is a role. >> Well, you're looking at doing another run of this the ne the following year. You said these cuts are not going

055to >> going to go away. You're you're looking at doing it again for the second year. So I think what he asked was a valid question. How bad how bad if it is going to hurt? >> How bad is that? >> It's just a conversation. >> Exactly. >> I'm open to anything. >> I'm open to communities and schools. That's it's costing what 70,000 right now. >> Yeah. How are they stepping in to leave that if we if we went that route? >> It's not that we don't want them there. is where do we cut? >> No, I understand. >> Uh do it right the right cuts in the right places >> and that's where you know we've been having conversations. >> So everything has to be on the table. >> What exactly is CIS? Okay.

056My understanding from the beginning was that they talk to students and parents. Is there, let's say, is there like 50 kids they have to talk to or is there an amount of students that have to be met? Because if you have them doing um cafeteria duty, playground duty, uh library duty. So, where do they find the time to talk to these students that need the help? >> Is it way around in the cafeteria? You know, you're doing it there, but they're also interfacing. And then why you want them at like dismissal and rob time times where they're having interaction with >> could we we have it in we have them in two schools? >> No we have them in four schools now you're proposing to go down to two >> right >> and you were

057proposing to keep them at the junior high. >> Well what I'm thinking is if she's willing to throw in the third I mean I this is just a thought specialist at the junior high. Well, they say that we're only get two. Let's talk about that. >> What two campuses would you have that? >> The other the third one would be the luxury if they throw it in as a >> bonus you're talking about. I don't know. Um, >> but I'm not for sure. >> Well, she's contemplating because we're we're getting the mental health that would go at the junior high. the other three would be spread out among the other >> because that's that's part of the some of their role too is making recommendations and and assisting the treat children. >> But I think

058the other thing y'all need to realize is even when I first started the district and um we had instructional kids >> we other than prek that's it right and so some of their roles I know you're saying why they're here or there and everywhere if somebody's out we don't have these sort of just extra you know, but they also do counsel. They do like lessons on different trades. So, they have >> So, the CIS employees that are we pay for CIS? Okay. Are they certified? >> They are. They have undergraduate. >> So, let me ask you a question. So, if they're giving us the third one, why can't we pay for one and then give us the second one? >> And then we can use the the one at one at the elementary and one

059at the Tok and one at the high school. And we have that everyone. >> So Gloria has told me that when I was in Florida, I told her because you were allowed to do that. She told me that it goes in Kansas, you were not allowed to share. That's what she's told. Conversation last week >> because right now it's closing. >> We're not allowed to share. >> That was crossing my mind that they could go in the morning over here and then in the afternoon go to the other campus. >> That's what I wanted. >> But that's what we do like with the music and the art, right? Elementary. >> Correct. She was saying with CIS that for some reason I look this is what she told me just last week I called her that

060their national CIS doesn't give them flexibility to do that. >> I think because of the fact that you have these students here and they probably need to concentrate on these and not have to take off and concentrate. >> Yeah, I don't know and I definitely ask that question. >> So So it's costing us what 35,000 per campus >> but that's what I was telling her. Maybe just get pay for one and let us >> No, I I agree with you. I'm trying to get that 70,000 for to a more reasonable price. >> Yes, >> the more reasonable. >> And I'm writing down. It's the same thing with >> I mean, it sounds to me like we're getting our money's worth out of them. Am I hearing you correctly? >> The ones that are good. Yes.

061>> Which campuses? >> I would say the elementary because they have a lot of kids. That's the one I think that just the other. >> So like are we getting our money's worth out of >> I believe we are in relation. >> But then with the further cuts I mean if you're >> Yeah. I mean I don't know if you're going to introduce the further cuts with JFK you know we don't want them hurting >> right. >> I sure they're the foundation. I I have to say I you know okay we're going to do away with CIS as far as they go any other arts program technology >> I don't know because they're JFK they're the foundation I >> maybe asked what campus would you be cutting >> because if it's going to hurt the

062campus >> then we need look at something else. >> Well, I guess >> exactly. We'd have to look at something to compensate for JFK. >> I don't want them hurting because you took away this, took away this more harm than >> That's why I'm saying it's almost like we have to talk about it also in the picture of all the physicians. That's what I'm saying. >> Exactly. And and my my grandsons, they're at Bishop now. They were here. that young one got the basic foundation from here >> and when he went to bishop he didn't struggle at all and in fact he's doing gifted and talented you know and I tell my grandson they got it from west >> that's where it started and I don't think we need to uh mess with that >>

063you can't look at this in isolation when my brain is now and then it's like >> four check chest check chess boards you know pawns but I'm looking at like the whole staff even though he has these contracted staff are also part of >> but I think that they're that they are uh giving new suggestions because >> it's more we got to cut one more CIS to make up for that >> I mean we're going to have to look of course we're going to have to look at as far as the intent and how much they are going to help us. But if it's not going to hurt and they don't have a such thing as a half a day worker, >> I literally had a conversation last week. Yeah. >> We're trying to be

064creative here. >> No, I did. >> Yeah. >> Instead of the whole thing going away. >> Yeah. >> But I think that that is a very good suggestion because that is a lot of money and not just to say, "Oh, we want to cut it." No, we don't want to cut it. But I already talked to you as far as CIS. I mean, I'm going to tell you right now, if we got to cut it, we got to cut it because >> it it I don't want it to hurt uh JFK. But at the same time, I don't want it to hurt the high school either or the junior high or uh Westo Elementary. Uh what we need, we need strong teachers. We need strong teachers at every campus. We need strong teachers at every

065campus. And that's why I keep telling you all hands on deck. Your people need to produce with what we have. If you're suggesting these cuts, and I agree with you because you're telling me we're not going to make the next, you know, uh, budget, but at the same time, what we have existing or going into 20 what? 26 27 They they need to produce. I mean, I don't know. I just I don't I don't want to see another F rating coming from our junior high. And from what I could see over there, there and I'm I'm picking and choosing cuz and when I'm over there in the concession stand, I see what's going on. And when you have a staff that's sitting down doing nothing, that staff needs to move on. >> And that's why

066I told you before, I pick and choose my battles to go to you because that is one of them. But if I went to you, I'd be going to you every weekend on that every weekend and now they're doing it and your security isn't even out and blah blah blah blah blah and this and that. So, you know what? That's one of the battles that you want to run around >> because we keeping them and we don't >> keeping them. >> Well, this young lady that I saw, her reputation is not very good over there at that junior high >> and we still have her, >> right? But not again, I don't want but but that's my biggest concern. I'm like, we need somebody who we're going to pay them. They need to work for

067us. >> They instead of sitting down over there on the phone. Well, it goes back to documentation. >> Well, there's no documentation. >> Well, there is though. >> There's no documentation >> cuz when I saw that and my biggest thing was she's not interested in our children. She's just there having a good time on her. >> I see it. I see it everywhere because I I go to H >> and they're going out there to get baskets, shopping cart, >> I'm telling you. >> And I say must be nice to get paid on your phone. Look up the phone >> everywhere you go. Everywhere you go. I don't care where you go. >> That's right. That's the the worst enemy is the cell phone. >> I'm going to be next time I get surgery. having

068to make sure that the they leave their bones out of the surgical room that it's gotten that bad. Hey, they going to be on that. >> No, they had their phone playing music while they were getting everything ready for >> anyway. stand y'all in the right place in the right direction and I hear you with y'all and you're doing the right thing >> but you know just I know we need to move on uh we'll be cut we'll be discussing this in detail in close session >> because there are there lots of places that we need to be looking at seriously if you're going to make this many cuts your existing staff needs to be on it. and not like we've seen. >> I respectfully request, you know, between now and really the ne in

069the next week or so, I respectfully request that if you want to have an individual conversation with myself, that would be really helpful, right? Because yeah, that way, you know, we are going to be making decisions in the next two weeks about who we're going to offer contracts to. And so if you know, let me know. Let's make set up a meeting. I think I know the one that you're talking about I know but the other one >> so how many people have taken advantage of the proposal that they're that is knowing that they're not coming back >> that they're retirement >> we've already put that out there >> okay >> for the 26 27 budget assumptions overview of one of the main focus we definitely focus on strengthening our fund balance. We need to

070have at least 3 to six months of expenses in there which equivalates to what 6 million. We barely have 1.5 which is you know very um very dangerous. >> That's now where they have the cuts, >> right? We've been saying that for years and years and years. Okay. And so that's that has to be a big big priority as we're building our budget. So um we definitely need to start investing in our facilities, maintaining them has to be an investment for the future because if we don't maintain them, they're just kind of deplete and we could have, you know, several junior high problems. So we do have to put some money into the junior high as we're building this budget. We have to see what we're going to start fixing first. But we do need

071to start fixing things in the junior high and our staffing levels. We have to be real careful because it composes of 85% of our budget. So we do have to look at the Moesy study very carefully. They're recommending 17 to 23 positions and we do need to take that very seriously. >> Eliminating 17. Okay. And I would highly recommend we go with the 23 because we do need to >> do those two priorities and fund balance and facilities. You're talking about millions of dollars. >> So right now what you propose is only getting us 10 or 12. >> No, I have a list. No, I have a list. I know, but based on what you gave us as far as the number >> that's what when I heard that I was like >> when you

072gave us that we're seeing >> 18 that's 17 18 19 20 21 positions right there. >> Okay. So you've listed 21. >> Yes. >> And Mendus is saying we need to go to 23 in order to meet our budget. Correct. >> Okay. Is that the same old Casey that did the thing on let go of all the receptionist? Are they the same ones that did that? >> No, that was actually >> Okay, one more question. If we go to the budget overview 2627, Miss Mendes, and you have put up here for the state revenue, the ADA is uh I know you said it was very conservative, the ones that you submitted to. >> It's 1570. >> Okay. I read that five and I was like, what what is that extra five? >> That 1570 is

073what you sent in a year ago. >> Two years ago. Yes. Right? Because it's only good for two years. >> Right. >> So this is the year when we change we can we can adjust it. >> I wasn't done. Okay. So the 1570 but then you had uh put on the other one that we're running the ABA on 16. What was that number? >> Our actual what we have here. But you need to remember you also need to subtract prek because 100 prek students we only get for 50. >> Didn't y'all do that with the numbers? >> Yeah, that's what she got from the 60s something. >> Okay, that's why I'm asking. So we're running on 16. What was that number that you had told us? >> 1570 is what was actually projected three years

074ago to >> but what are we >> right now? We're at 1659 actual. Okay. So, when the money that we're going to be giving for 26 and 27 is going to be based on the 1570 grant because that is what we submitted. >> But where where does that additional money show up if we're running at 16 at the end of next September there'll be a settle up. That's where they'll calculate it and they'll give us and then the defense of it. >> Right. >> Yeah. which you'll see it right there. >> But we won't see that until >> but we won't see that till what number is that again? >> It's that right there on that >> but it's based on the 16 or whatever >> I know but for 2627 >> the 157. So

075even though we were very conservative as far as our funding coming in 26 27 we are going to be compensated for it because of our ADA >> right >> maintaining more than 15 they're going to aim for it a little bit lower is that we were saying >> but you already incorporated that money that we're expecting into this budget right >> you've incorporated that we're going to be receiving that >> yes >> so what's the new number you're going to Now, are you saying >> you're proposing for the next for the next two years? >> Oh, for the next two years, we haven't gotten that far. >> That's we do that in December of 2026. We'll kind of continue. >> But when we do that, >> we're going to look at what our ADA is,

076>> but we also have to look at what our attendance is. >> 91% attendance. >> That's what she based the 1570 on. That's why I was You've already factored in the 91 >> Yeah. >> 91% of the kids come to school out of the whole enrollment, >> right? >> So that's already factored into here, >> but the amount of student um so oh >> okay. Uh so uh in addition to that, we're currently trying to sell some real estate. um hope we're hoping that April the 30th is when the bids close. So we're hoping that will generate some income for us. So and again um go back to salaries u you know we we're not going to have a race incorporated our salaries right now are very competitive so we should be able we're just

077going to struggle to make sure that we can sustain them. So, for the new hire guide, the the teacher salary scales because buy that one. Uh, this is the same as last year. >> The only thing it's capped at 20. >> It's capped at 20. So, no longer at 30. But as far as the >> So, it still has a step in there incorporated. So, teachers in essence will get a raise. They would leave that step in there, but all the other employees will not. So the only ones if they move from two to three years 4,000 the ones that if they go from four to five years that's a those are the ones that's >> so when you're saying we're competitive uh who are you b who are you basing that against >> around

078the small districts around us right? Well, yeah, but give me give me some names. I don't have any name. They're just competitive. We're just competitive. >> We're trying to stay up with the surrounding >> flower. We're definitely competitive. Flower. >> Well, the next the next session I would like to know who are we competitive? >> Yeah. I mean, you can't just say you're competitive, but I don't know. >> Okay. Well, I reject that statement because we're not competitive. >> Okay. Well, I guess not. We don't have the isact. >> Oh yes. >> Um okay. But then the um one thing that before we moved on is I mentioned this. If we get those bids in, that'll be a Thursday. Could we I didn't put this in here, but I thought about it. Could we have

079like an hour meeting the following Monday just to look at those bids? That >> stay on the property. >> We've had nine people physically pick up >> I think I read nine tonight physically pick up packets. >> How many have turned them in? >> Nobody's turned them in yet. >> Okay. They've taken the packets but they haven't turned >> 30th 1st second. So the fourth would do May 4th but like that would be the only thing. >> Okay. So let's assume we don't get any then we do another month. >> Yes. >> Keep going. >> No we just keep it open. >> Yeah. >> Then after that you open it and say as we would get a bid we can look at that. Correct. That's what I >> after the sec after the second month.

080>> I thought that's what she said. How did y'all understand? >> I Oh, how did y'all understand what she said? >> I thought we could just then keep it open. >> You have a start. >> I I I think it was we keep it going. >> Yeah. >> For another 30 days. I don't think she said I don't think she said uh after 35 days then we can open anything that No, you can. >> Okay. No, we have to leave it open. I mean, we just have to renew it for another 40 days. >> You have to wait till the other at the end of the next 30 days or whatever then, but you can get clarification on that. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Um, >> you said May four. >> Yes. And again, just be

081I don't think is there. Do you want to look on the district? Sh. >> What? Shack me on the fourth door. I can move that as 53. Yes. Um, so then I don't know if you guys can look at those proposed dates. I've already plenty >> blaring conflict at the moment. >> I wouldn't show you is that I don't like >> I think we've kind of talked through a lot of this question. >> So, >> and who's doing this? Uh who's doing this? U get it out >> cheering. So again, we're we're going to have a whole our next full presentation. >> So by doing it, >> are you proposing? So >> are we going to use the same old same old the ones that messed us up the last time? >> I want us

082to wait on that budget that agenda item. >> So going back to the budget, we should have a pretty good idea of where we're at in the budget process by July. >> Correct. >> Yeah. as we get the tax. And so the idea of this, if you remember when we met with Greg Gibson, is that this document would sort of sit whenever we're having conversations, we can all say these are the assumptions that we've all made and point us back to remember we said we would do this. Um, So um so again everything we've read has said that vouchers are mostly happen with people that are applying or people that are already in private school and are working and so we don't think that that's going to significantly impact but it's still an unknown right

083>> in the summer time I keep asking for summertime are we cutting back on dumpster service on schools that we don't >> we stop this summer >> we are doing that now >> once we have to keep the caf >> I understand Um, >> so one thing that I learned today is that we pay the tax office for collecting our taxes. >> Um, yes, we used to collect it before. >> Yeah, we did. >> Then it changed. >> The law changed. >> It changed. >> No, he changed it. Not the law. >> Who is he? Well, >> colossial has to pay them, right? We don't have a way more room on that, right? Otherwise, we have to hire somebody to collect the taxes. >> No, because look, well, because I've always seen that we pay

084I see that we pay the tax people. I said, why are we what are we paying them for? >> I can understand call election. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> we used to do the voting used to be done through our district itself. We didn't vote through the county and that saved us money also, but they all went to the county. >> So, so what do what do you mean? We can look at them >> collecting our own collect. Yeah, we did had our own weed taxes and we did our own. >> How much does that cost them per year to pay them? >> Oh, it cost a lot. >> 100,000. Okay. >> What kind what kind of number are we looking at? >> I don't know the exact number. >> Is it would it be feasible

085for us to do it? But are any other districts doing it? >> Yeah, I think I know that other districts do >> that's what I'm saying. We would have to hire somebody. But I don't know what that look like. >> We used to have >> So once again, do you know that number? I mean roughly I really haven't looked at it at all. So I see what it all entails. >> We're just looking at everything >> mailers and stuff like I don't know. You know what I mean? >> I'm not saying we should do it, but I was just asking questions. >> And I didn't think back then the district was as big as it was. >> Yeah. as it is now too. >> We used to have it right over there that main office

086used to do it. >> So is it okay? We just send somebody your legs. >> We'll take the car. >> He used to send us the notices like the the county does. Uh-huh. >> They they used to send us that notice back those notices. Wow. >> We just came in here. You would pay them a temple office >> back in the day. >> Way back way back. That was way back then. >> Way back then. >> So, so would that cost us manpower? >> Yeah. Anyway, okay. Um, >> continue here. >> Oh, the wand. I was going to share about that. That >> What is LG stand for, man? >> You want to look it up? >> Oh, okay. Never mind. That's okay. Don't worry. I'll look it up. >> No, I haven't. I just

087>> um so that grant that funding is for the instructional facilitators you're putting on here for WOE and junior high the tutors and the teacher stipens >> the academic stipens. Uh so that isn't none of that is paid through none of these positions are paid through anything else >> or are some of them >> leadership and instructional foundation >> 32. Um so there currently obviously um currently those positions well we had for junior high we had strong foundations which kind of this is kind of similar strong foundations title but for elementary so this year we had a total of $100,000 but this year we have 192 >> that much goes to the provider >> but which covers >> so this year it covered those things at the junior high, but for next year it's junior

088high and >> the approved the one the 368 is for an approved provider. >> Correct. >> You have to go by that list that TA is giving you. >> And that I'm going to share that with you at the end of the month. >> Is that going to be at the next? >> Yeah. On the 22nd. Okay. Quick question. >> Are we going to be able to meet our payroll obligations to the end of the fiscal year? >> One way or another can't I mean if we're not able to then we're going to have to look at other options but yes >> at this point in time >> I I'm not. So basically what would happen is if we realized we couldn't then we'd have to look again like we talked about last at that

089workshop to do the financial aid. >> Don't we have to do is we're going to do a risk of don't we have to put that out right now >> but we're not doing >> a risk is where so a rate would be like if right now I'm breaking people's contracts. >> So I have another question. So, did they already stop submitting budgets to expend anything? You already stopped that >> by March. >> You're doing the furlow you said. >> Well, that's going to be another item in a little bit. >> Yes. >> Okay. That's what we're contemplating, >> right? >> One thing I would like to see because now we see when you get the money, >> but can you let us know? I mean, you told us we we don't get money. I didn't

090realize December, January, February, and what? March. So whatever they give us in November has to last. >> We're getting the property tax into. Yes. >> But but we get the property tax in between. So what I'm saying is heads up board. It's April. We're getting that money April 15th or April 17th. So then we can say, okay, the money's finally coming in. That would be I would like to know the money came in came in in when it came in in April, when it came in in June. >> How much was it? Well, that that that was why the tracking uh >> so you you'll put it in the tracking. >> We can we can >> No, we are because that >> we were already telling you this we have we specific to add this

091money. >> We already have a lift branch, right? Is that what that is or is this a new lift branch here? Right here. >> Um this is new. The old one was lasso three. >> Three. Now this is lasso four. We had lasso one, we had lasso two, we currently have lasso three and the next one is lasso four >> which are the left calling it >> you know all that money and all we get is a little bitty bit >> talk to the governor talk to the commission there's not a >> we already talked about >> yeah there's not beyond our pay >> we know where it's going >> okay beyond our pay >> so the 200,000 from the property property insurance cost. I thought that was lower. We ended up with the 200,000

092savings. Uh the 25 26 >> do we know do we know the what's projected for 26 27? >> You don't get that. >> When we get do you know know that to really because they wait for the storms is if there's any name storms that come through they'll probably pick up the rates. So they they don't know until they get out the bids out there till late uh October and then by the time they get it back it's nearly January that we're getting our back. >> So we'll know by January. Yeah. >> So when we did this, do I remember correctly that we are at 5% deductible. >> And that's the max right now, right? >> There's no more there's no 6%. There's no So, we're do we're doing >> Yeah, >> we can't stay

093there anymore. >> Like I said, I mean, everything could change. >> Then we got to look at >> Well, it's a risk that we have to wait. You pay more for the premium >> or you pay less for the premium, but you're you're risking more. >> Yes. >> It's a balancing act. >> And as far as the I know we're not going to we Westo is not giving any raises raises for the 26 27 but you know is I know like what last year we were waiting the legislature was going to meet one more time and let's see if they were going to include it. Are we looking at anything like that? >> No, they're not going to include anything. When when are they going to meet again? >> Next year. >> So well it'll

094just be for the >> 27th. >> 27. It's not going to be we're done with any additional funding for 2627 from this legislator. >> Um, and I'm sorry, I realize this is my that I we originally had 80 and I got I kind of got it back up got it up to like 98,15 things. So, I will again I'll itemize those. >> Where's that at? This >> statements. I still want to see it in writing. >> Happy to share that on the share. >> You're going to have it in writing. >> Yeah. >> That we cannot do anything to We can't touch. >> We'll have in writing what our plan is. Because you might say, "Well, just this, but what if we might want this?" >> We can look at We can look at all

095the options. >> Like I said, we don't have money. Somebody's got >> think that's pretty much the end of that. >> Okay. Well, >> and this is an item this the the voter the tax rate collection. >> Okay. >> 4B. Right. 4B. >> I'm going to ask again. >> Okay. Go for it. I'm gonna ask and ask. Did you go over the savings plan? >> That's the same thing that we talked about. That's just I had it on PowerPoint slide and just add it up. >> Okay. All right. Agenda item 4B, presentation, discussion, and the overview regarding the voter approval tax rate election. Um, so the voter approved tax rate election is an election required to be held when the district adopts a maintenance and operation tax rate that exceeds the amount allowed by the

096state utilized to access remaining enrichment pennies to stabilize the fund balance and support facility. So our current M rate is 6669. Our interest in syncing is the 045. We're not doing we're not going to change that interest in. So the current total rate tax rate is 1.1169. Again any MC increase over the 6669 requires us to go to the electorate. So if we bring it up five cents which is five golden pennies it but that would take us to an M rate of 7169 keep the interest in syncing at the same 45 and that would bring us to a 1.1669 rate. So adding these five pennies would generate approximately 1.1 million in new annual funding. Again, the goal would be to rebuild the fund balance to meet TA recommended levels. Again, we've reached just kind

097of repeating that that um we've reached the capacity that we can do without an election. Okay. So because of the homestead exemption, if we any home in the average home was right around 150 last year, >> um the monthly impact is just 42 cents, an estimated tax increase of approximately $5 per year. But residents that are over 65, it's a $200,000 homestead exemption. And so if you look at this chart, and this is um showing you the age of the voters in um West Y. Even if somebody has a $200,000 home, and I don't know that how many $200,000 homes we have, that would be $30. But anyone that$100,000, 120, 140, they would not be paying any additional. These are for people under the age of 65. One question real quick. So where does the

098money come from? If the rate is raised, where did that money come from? Does the money the state give us that money? >> Commercial and in this room, >> businesses. >> So that's basically we wouldn't get it from the senior citizens. They wouldn't be taxed at all >> unless their homes are over 200. unless >> this is showing this. I didn't go down to 250 because I don't think that >> So you're saying that 200,000 the 65 plus would pay >> nothing it's just monthly increase >> there two different we did two different slides up to >> average taxpayer >> that has 140 And the next >> Oh, there it is. >> So, you're saying the average one go back to the sec the uh first you're saying the average household is what 150 you

099said? >> Yeah. >> So, the annual increase >> would have been $5 >> annual. Okay. So remember the question that I had asked you when we were going through this and you we were talking about having this bree when did we have it last time? >> Well, we didn't start. >> Hello. Hello. We did not have dump on that. We still have should have opened my shouldn't have opened my mouth. Okay. So we didn't >> but we are going to we are going to have it this time >> with with a lawyer >> because that's what happened last year. That's what happened. >> She isn't like we attorney but on this you know here we're talking about a facility improvement when we need a new junior high. We can't be playing this game. We were

100told we cannot afford a junior high until 2034 because of all the >> meeting you heard. Well, Casey, he already messed this up three years. >> All right, moving on. >> Don't want to hear it. >> Moving on. >> Well, I didn't finish asking my question. >> Okay. So my question is Miss Moore since we're going to have it you're saying we are looking at November of 206. So and we we can go over what do if we uh implement this for even the 140,000 exemption >> right >> we are going to be at what what's the M >> the tax rate >> Uhhuh. uh so we're going to be at 1.1669 for the year 2627 correct >> on their own. >> And so I'm asking and you said you were going to look into

101it. Did you look into it? Can we have that the following year? >> We do have to we have to go back to the electorate. That's your question. >> We have to what? >> No, we have to >> you have to go back to the electorate. >> No. >> Okay. But what are you saying? Back to the what? >> The I was saying the electorate, but we can also ask >> we'll ask the voters for approval. >> Okay. So, what can we do >> once the voters have approved it'll they remain there until the state does something that sometimes they'll do a compression or something then that would probably but other than that it'll so I'm not done. So, let me finish. So, what I asked you, Miss Moore, is to get these five pennies

102again and tell ask tell me if I'm wrong. Tell me where could we do this again the following year? >> Saying we don't need to. We just automatic. >> It's an automatic. >> We was going to say we don't max out. >> You We There's 17. >> Oh, you don't have to get an additional five pens. >> We max out. I was going to ask. Are we matched up once we do this or we can't go back next year? >> Penny, but it's not recommended because that going for those pennies already pretty high tax rate compared to other >> but if we're looking at this uh Mendes, our average homeowner is 150,000. >> They're going to pay $5. It's we're still not even I mean I'm just thinking back of how we marketed it the

103last time Jordan when we tried to do this >> and that's true and you're and you're right. However, you got to remember our majority of money is coming from commercial industrial business. So they don't want to push that business out. That's where our money's coming. >> Oh because it does affect them, right? >> Okay. That's what I want to know. But can which I have right here and I'll pass it around the our top 50. >> If you compare us to Robtown, they're at 1.25. >> So they're way like 19 more than what we're proposing. >> That's what I'm saying. So, can we look at can you do your analysis and look at how far can we go to get that additional not piggyback I mean not going back with this to get that additional

104simply because it I think it's I I know what you're saying with the other commercial ones but it's to our advantage because our average homeowner is >> remember we used to have a Ryan and that was a really And then they they left and that's the fear that when you go too much they're going to go find somewhere >> you're saying they left because of that or was it because of the oil crunch? >> No, they left because >> So he mentioned >> copper pennies, >> right? >> What are copper pennies? >> There are 17 pennies, okay, that we can go on top of what the maximum maximum compression rate. So, eight of those are golden pennies with the ones that drive you the most money. The state allows you to get five. We already

105have those five that you can get without a gold. So, we have three golden pennies that we can get. So, that's what we're going to do. And then we have another seven copper pennies that you can get. >> Okay. So we haven't discussed the seven copper pennies that might be the other time. >> But the recommendation also is you don't want to ask >> like you have to just be careful because some people have asked for too much and then the voters because remember even though we've shown you all this it's still going to say >> it's a tax >> if this is a tax increase. It still says >> but it's also the way that you know I get it. And then we got to look and we look which is surprising our top

106taxpayer. Okay. Who it is? >> Who is it? >> Corpse Christine >> Veterans. >> So that which is probably a shocker because they're a nonprofit. But guess what? They rent out >> still getting. So that's where you got to be careful because you are we still getting from them even though they're nonprofit. >> They're our top tax. >> Who is that again? >> The bird. >> I know. But I thought we don't get phase two. >> But it's it's what they're ready. Yeah, >> the renters getting texts, not the VA. >> Well, that's what I'm saying. I know. >> I'm trying to say if we pick it up too high, you're not going to get those renters. So, you have home renters here, too. They're they're not getting the home exemption. They're not getting nothing.

107So, I say, we're going to stay out of, you know, that area because the tax rate is so high. Well, the thing is that I I'd like to see what's the maximum that we can go because >> the max you can go is those three pennies that are golden and then those seven pennies that >> which we have done. >> Yeah. So, we got a max of 10 pennies that need gold. >> You said seven seven gold >> and and seven gold. >> Three golden and seven copper. Yes, >> but again the attorney's here if you want in close session if you guys want to ask the questions um and you guys you're welcome to >> so so >> I got my so I probably don't I'm not pay >> so we don't get any

108money off of me coming off my property in no kind of way >> so we're losing big time. Huh? >> Yeah. T >> Oh, yes. T >> sends us something. >> Yeah. >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> Um >> Okay. Well, I would like to see that happening. I I I I'd like to see an analysis of that to see how far we can go. And also the fact that you were talking to a marketing person, >> right? >> That we'll talk about it later with the rest of the board. >> I'd like to we've got to get people >> Well, the other thing is Yeah. >> on board that know how to do their job because we don't >> we don't. >> So, I think the other thing is those go the copper pennies don't

109yield you as much money. It's a much lower rate. >> So, it's only 50ome. >> Yeah. But money right now money >> we put in here close session to be able to um Oh yes question. So so this is kind of what we've been talking about the reason here's the timeline. So we have to select a financial efficiency auditor. So you have to have this audit and you can do that at least four months before the election. You need to order the election and the board must adopt a resolution to call the election at least 78 days before November 20 November 4th, 2026. We need to put public notice between July 13th and August 3rd and that's the election day copy of that. >> So we're still on the same >> so we can technically

110ask for hopper pennies and golden pennies at the same time. Because if we say we're going for the copper and then two years from now we say we're going to go for the golden, then we got to once again hire an auditor again and go spend all this money. >> But the that's why she's asking >> the chance you're going to think is that if we go up too high >> I understand that and that's why she's asking what would it if we did this >> is if you go too high will the voters just kind of have a knee-jerk reaction to ask question. So again, what if you want to talk to the attorney, she can give you, you know, we go to close session. I think that's a primary question ask. Um, so

111this again is just looking at those dates. >> Now, is the auditor going to be brought to the board to vote on the auditor or are we just going to say okay? >> So um, in June or May, whatever we do, we would bring of who you're recommending >> and you're going to look for other than we're going to try I don't know that there is we can see what other people recommend whenever we're asking people they are saying >> I'll tell you that that's what they're saying but they're known to be the top one >> um >> yeah that how many other districts did they >> I wonder on that one >> we have the attorney we have the corrections didn't read that memo. Okay. I said get your own auditor. >> Yeah. >>

112Well, then we should have to go with them. >> So, if you want to come up to me with a suggestion, I'll be happy to enter. >> No, but I'm just saying. >> I'm serious. I'm really serious. We've been asking. >> Um, would you like me to text the attorney that we're ready for session? Are we ready? >> Are we Are we staying here for close session? >> No. Well, what we're done with this? >> But she the attorney is if you wanted to ask for advice and stuff that has to be done from the turn session. So if you want to do that session >> and the advice >> I know, but is this just on this agenda item or is it going to spill over to >> No, that's it. >> This is

113it, right? Well, I I just again, you know, Orion was right here next door to the high school and they left when we started and now they're >> I get I get you. It's the ones that don't so much. >> How much did they go up? I I didn't I didn't get that. Let him call my joking. Well, I thought they had gone out like oil field was very >> No, no, no, no. This was >> It had up and downs. >> Yeah. No, it wasn't during the up and down. It was um >> So, did Okay, let me ask the question. Did they relocate somewhere else? >> Yes, they're a TM. >> A TM. >> What is their time? >> I'm just kidding. I don't know. >> It's probably more than us. >> Um

114>> they're just going for advice. >> So, do you want to go into a session and ask for advice or not? >> Not right now. the chief says, "Are we done with all this?" >> Well, that's all we have to share with you. >> Is that all? >> So, we're we're here. We need to do close session in a minute >> if you want to. And that's we put it in the agenda if you wanted to talk to the attorney. That was the big piece of advice we got last time. So, you should be talking to the attorney. So, that's why keeping us notified and informed as go I'm glad you're still here. >> Okay, perfect. >> Okay. >> All right. >> So, where are we now? >> Out of close session. What time is

115it? No, >> this is just for discussion. >> Yeah, the next step is the next step is kind of y'all giving it which I think we kind of communicate the next step is um looking at options for the um session >> already in order. >> All right, the time is 8:00 and we're going into open session. Uh 6A is the presentation and discussion regarding an update on the 2025 2026 school year. Uh A1 is the cost saving plan and A2 is the real estate status update. So this is just what we had sent out to y'all. Y'all can see it. um just in a little bit different format, but this there's no real new information here. This is just basically what we've been >> Yeah, this is really basically reiterating what the second >> Oh,

116other than um I did send out the summer school reduction actually could be a little bit less So, um, or more probably a little bit more, but close to that. Um, I don't know who got a chance to read their email, but we do have a huge blessing that came in that Delmare is essentially going to pay pay for our third through 8th grade program. >> They're going to pay for the staff. They're going to pay for supplies for Dr. is going to pay for the nurse, the custodial staff or the um security. So that was a huge >> So is this something we applied for or how did they >> No, I guess Dr. Esamia, >> you just being nice to us. >> I think he's just being nice. They talked about doing this

117pilot program in Westo and >> it came up real fast. >> So yeah, huge blessing. Huge, huge. >> It is. So, let me ask you about the pair of professionals of staff. So, uh we're only going to keep them in the um the the main area like special eds or the special needs children or we just having them everywhere. >> No, I mean what we have had only is prek. >> And then we've had um special education of course >> and then we've had ISS and ISS >> and we've had >> that's pretty much it. So you don't have parents going into the kindergarten class like >> but CC shared a pair they don't do four or five kindergarten classes all through >> except for prek right >> well prek is federal funded for that

118>> so where are we at on board more travel budgets I don't see that up So, we haven't done anything with board travel. Um, I'm feeling, you know, we said we're not, no one's traveling over the summer in terms of West staff, including me. Really bad. The board >> discussion item. So, right now, you know, y'all have >> How much money do we have? >> $3,700. I know that a few people have said that they're not able to go. They're going to be out of town. But is there a way or no? >> So we looked into it and really the most of the board members need um every year you need the child protection >> endangerment or whatever. >> Yes, that one. >> Can we get it here? And instead of having to travel

119for >> Well, for sure you can get it here, but also I mean there's also the actual conference. Whatever you need, you don't you would need by the fall. You don't need anything by the summer. You need it by the fall. >> So, so do we as important? Do we need to look at maybe >> Yeah. >> Just doing one conference at the in October or >> we're we're going to have to discuss that to see if we're going to just do SLI or do because you've got to remember also, Miss Moore. Yes, we have. We we gave up a national. >> Yeah, we gave the national years ago >> and that was a big chunk. Uh so >> well hotel booking for soi is Wednesday. So it's kind of why I don't know what

120that um >> if I can get mine here I I I'd prefer it. >> Okay. >> So who's not going? You're not going? >> No. >> So I'm not going. If I can get my training here, >> the next one. >> Well, you had you had a board member just recently do all the hours. So, I'm sure you can. >> No, you can do it completely. Absolutely. >> There's no exams or >> no. >> So, so for me, maybe next year if we decide to go in summer, I would rather skip it myself personally. Yeah. >> And if I can get them all in October, >> then I would be willing. And me, I'm just speaking for myself. >> Or you could just pick and choose. You can just say, "You know what? I'm going

121I'm going to go." >> I think that's better because I can go in the summer. It's harder for me to go during school time. >> Okay. At least if I can come back one, I I'm willing to do that. >> Me, too. Before you get off that, do we belong to Tal? >> Well, I know Marcy is the local president of that chapter >> because their scholarships are out. I don't know. You have to be in the district to get a scholarship. Marcy is the local I would think. I don't know. That's you have to I don't know. I >> So more going back to that if we if I decide to take online classes. >> Yeah. >> Is there a fee for that? >> Minimal about much much. But I would save on the

122hotel. >> Well, definitely because that's a big expense there. >> Well, even the classes are much less like maybe a couple hundred for everything versus >> so what I need from Diane is a list what I really really need to take before the end of the year. I'm telling you, I think I asked her to look at it and it was basically the child thing and then cyber security. >> That was last year before. >> Oh, she did. >> I think she But we need she she looked up it basically. There's absolutely last year >> in October. >> You know, time flies. >> We did the one Well, the one that we went to in Kingsville, we didn't >> that was that that's for this new year. Well, but the year the way that the

123year starts I think is to November like it's it's kind of done that way. So yeah. So definitely would be part of this year. >> But October is sort of part of the year too. >> Okay. So is it? >> Yeah. You can take time for me here. I appreciate it. >> Me too. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So just reach out. >> You don't want to go and talk to other board members and get ideas and none of that. You just want to stick to this little >> I just want to do it here. >> Just for now. >> Well, for now and always, ma'am. That's the object of these these things. >> But then we can go to Right. >> Me personally, if I'm going to ask somebody to cut, >> I'm willing to

124cut myself. That's true. >> That's just me. >> If you cut for anybody else, >> okay? You call cut 10 coaches. I'm good. >> 10 coaches. That's all. >> Well, I mean I mean I I guess it needs to be a board agenda. I wish I known before, but >> I mean we still there's not a lot of time. >> Well, we have $3,000 right now is what she's saying. >> Yeah, but as far as the signing up, which >> Well, I think at this I guess my suggestion at this point that we just find out who would like to go. Well, yeah, but why did you I mean, usually this has come up a month before to let the board know. >> Well, people were going to go to have the registration in. You're

125talking >> Wednesday. >> Yeah. Okay. That Wednesday of this week. >> Diana sent out. She had sent it out and that's why I wasn't always when was that sent out a week or two ago. >> Yeah, >> that that's what I'm saying. >> It came out a couple weeks ago because when >> I told her I'm not going because I would have been counting finished. So you I guess we just >> I didn't tell you a year ago where you're going to either go or the one in October. >> I'm already planning for next month. >> My wife just you just go along with it. She doesn't even >> My grandson's going to graduate in Louisiana. >> My wife puts a lot of trust in me that I'm not going to take her to desert.

126>> You're gonna have to let Diane know. If you do want to go by this Wednesday to SLI, you need to let her know or else she's I know as far as registration and then if not then let her know. >> She'll send a followup text. >> I'll go ahead that you'll go ahead and go in October. I wasn't going to go to either one this year but if I do it'll be I won't I can't go >> this summer. >> Yeah. I can't go to >> and for the ones that are going to do it here, those classes will be set up as far as what you need for 2627. >> Okay. >> All right. Sounds good. Um so this is the real estate update. I think um there was at least one or

127two more. I think we're up to seven packets maybe that sent out. Oh, I have a question real quick. >> We had discussed uh what was going to what did we list them at? Because did we list them at what we list them up the last time or did we up them or lower them or what? >> Those are the minimum bids. >> We kept them as >> we kept most of them. went up the went out >> because the 6651 >> that one went up a little bit. >> A little bit because of the world. >> Yeah. Which one? >> Poverty. >> Out of the country. >> So, what did you put it at? >> 320. >> Where is it? Property. >> What was it? >> 350,000. >> What do you mean? What was

128the 665? How many roads? That's what I was like. >> And I sent you I sent you the information with the full package, but I didn't put all that in. >> So, you have I I took a drive out there. >> You said they're building they're going to build houses, >> right? >> And the the city's going to let them build houses with the current drought condition. >> They're right now. They already have all the fixtures out there, but they're not letting them put tax. So right now, >> so that changed from two weeks ago or a couple weeks ago that I heard this information. >> But they can delay as much as what 180 days. >> So and you're talking about how many homes out here? 400 homes. >> No, the developments, thousand developments.

129>> And they haven't asked us putting the school out there. >> They have. >> What was our response? >> Yeah. Are they donating the land? >> They're willing to give us three acres of land. >> Only three acres. >> That's enough for a school. >> Yeah. >> Parking lot. >> It would be a small one. That would be >> So they're they would they're willing to donate the land. >> And in fact, I was going to recommend this board meeting. Of course, it's crazy, but maybe in May try to get them to come to share with you. So it would require like an elementary, >> right? Because the goal would be if we built if they built all those houses and we have the school right in your subdivision, then you're a lot more likely

130>> and you're talking uh sec third grade or second grade on to fifth or what are you talking about? >> So they're kind of are they seeing the majority of the people buying houses having kids in that age group? Well, I mean there's combination of very much starter homes with like mid-range the next step. >> But each one of these subdivisions could generate up to $3 million the estimates. >> I'm just looking to the future with the >> Here comes Eric Panu and K. Oh, we wanted to go over there. Well, and then >> well that's okay. Then give us some industry. give us give us some of the some of the >> So there's also if you understand that >> um you just drive then we ask for money >> from seate >> um

131across from seate >> do that to us >> what >> across from seate they're building for what's 400 right manufactured homes called homestead h o m e s t a d and there where you actually um buy you own the land and you own the >> Oh, >> so how about over here on navigation? >> Is that the same concept? >> I think yes. >> Uhhuh. >> No, this is new. >> The one over here for >> No, this is the new concept. >> There's another one. >> No, I saw that one. But but the but the one over here on navigation, they're going to expand how big? >> Almost 400 360. >> And that's that's going to be where you buy the land offer and you you >> Yeah. Yeah. It's something different. >>

132It's going to go all the way down west. >> They won't be renting the land anymore. >> Yeah. You look over there right near you, right? That's a better >> but that that that those mobile homes that is for >> west >> because I live on navigation at the navigation point apartments and when I went to vote I was not in the west so I was not able to vote for our stuff. >> Would you vote? >> I was I guess Miller. >> What did you What did you physically? >> Uh no I mean I came to vote like here and then they're like no you're not in this area for I couldn't vote for I couldn't see our board. I could see our stuff and that's why I was like well my child goes

133to Westo >> we need to look into that >> I would just kind of double check that where those lines are because I was not able to vote >> it is go all the way to we go all the way to Angus >> and you're on navigation right right >> I know but >> I went to our our portable where they were doing the vote >> they could not pull me up to the break whoever the zoning and voting so it's not like I can't say I don't know >> you know what we mean your voter your voter registration would tell her what precinct >> yeah we'll look into that >> picture of your voter and it'll say what precinct Yeah. My name wasn't in there. They weren't I wasn't able to >> I'm like

134who am I voting for? You should have said I need cars to come here and because it happened before >> here at West it happened. So I mean I needed to come home because >> All right. So, I do encourage you all look at some of those places because it's it's encouraging and we um we went out we took a little bus there because I wanted the admin to be able to get like a concept of first of all the little depressing part was gas prices that go up how how long that some of those buses have to go right now just to get a few kids that are out there but there's all this >> one more question >> does that mean that that development those Mobile home developments are on hold also. >>

135They're on what? >> Mobile home developments are on hold because of the water >> on they can't put any tax. >> That's the entire city. >> Okay. This is the next item that Miss Rodriguez this is um 6B. >> Oh, sorry. Or does anyone have questions about >> all right item 6B discussion consideration with possible action regarding the proposed voluntary workday reduction for noninstructional employees. Um, so this is the one where when we were trying to figure out how do we save money, we said, "Oh, we do a furlow." And the only way you can do a furlow is if you do declare financial exit, then you can do a furlow. A furlow would be where we said every employee that's not instructional who has a contract over 187 days, we're going to you're going

136to have three days, let's say, leave without pay. But we can't do that. Okay? We can't do that unless we declare financial exit. So then what we said was what could we do it as a voluntary and they said yes. So what this is saying is kind of like we have a sick leave pool, right? It's completely voluntary. Staff can say, "I'm gonna give zero days. I'm going to give one day. I'm going to give two days." When we do that, I don't know. I mean, Miss Gomez collects that information, shares it with Miss Kano, and that's as far as I know, the only people that ever know. >> Yeah. >> Right. So, this would be similar. I wouldn't want to know. That's why I don't want to know because I don't want to judge,

137you know? I just don't want to know. But people can say, um, we would send this out with, you know, if you guys approve it tomorrow and give them like me a week to let us know. And let's just say we have some employee that can make of one who she would like an extra week at home with her child in June, right? She's, you know, the kids are in school and she's willing to forego a week's worth of salary. >> She could tie it with a week that we take off and make it a two week. Correct. >> Leave. >> Now, this one we have to vote on. >> This one you do have to vote on. >> And it's voluntary. >> It's totally voluntary. And people can say, "I'm going to get one

138day. I'm going to get two, three, four, five or none." >> And this would help us also with this current budget crisis. >> Correct. Right. That's what >> And you know, there's no way. That's why it said TV because we have no idea who's going to who's going to do it and how many days it'll do. >> I don't see right here. The proposed voluntary workday reduction for non noninstructional employment. >> You taking a vote? I mean you voted next. No, I don't know what they're doing. >> You want a motion? You You want a motion? >> Not yet. >> You want Not yet. Okay. Not yet. >> Okay. >> Just look it over. >> This is the last item on the choose to do that. on >> can we do a t-shirt >> and

139it's on >> and some people might wonder just one extra day you know we don't have that make it >> so it won't be like say that just one day it would be just one day >> one two hel Fridays >> supposed to take Friday, Saturday, Sunday. >> Thursday. >> We're not supposed to take Fridays off. >> So, if they select one to five days, let's say they say five days, can they do like one of the days in January, one in March, one in like it'll be between now and June. Okay. For the most part, most do these maybe a few in May, but most of them will probably be June days. >> Okay. And then the offices are closed at the end of beginning of July end of June. The offices are closed.

140>> Yeah, we're closed for >> so they can tie it in with their one week that they're in two weeks. >> They don't want to come back after that. >> And again, we again we have no idea. We we might be surprised. may be there. We're just going to surprise you and say I'm >> nobody showed up to work. >> Well, and obviously they're going to tell us the day. So like we do have summer school in June. We're not going to leave it so that you know like we're not I mean we're not going to probably do it so that like the entire stagger >> but I guess >> at least a couple of people >> put that in in the writing like >> if we have so many saying I'm out during summer

141school uh We might we'll have to >> you know adjust >> subject to summer school. >> Let's just say don't want to leave >> the we possibly maybe add something to include like subject to review and approval. >> You're not guaranteed to get the date you want. We're still subject to review. Yeah, >> just as a comment, this team is pretty good about working around things, you know, about >> but you just know never know that >> might not get somebody to turn around say, well, you didn't say that on the sign, you know, >> we're not out of here too much. >> Yeah, that' be a good idea. Yeah. >> So we could say something like uh >> like on her leave period or something insert the date. >> Does this need to be

142done today or can it be done at the next board meeting? So you can >> so that you can do the the writing can be done on it. >> Well, this is I mean this is our letter. This is what you're saying. This is what you're >> It says the author is authorized to develop and implement the procedures. So we can put in the procedures. >> So it's subject to approval >> from you, >> right? >> Yeah. >> So we don't need to vote on >> you're voting that you're giving me the authority to do this program. >> You're not voting on like the exact >> Okay. All right. >> Okay. All right. So, I need to hear a motion and a second to for action regarding the proposed voluntary workday reduction for non-instructional employees.

143I make the motion that we give the superintendent we give the superintendent to implement this program >> voluntary workday reduction. >> Okay. We give the superintendent to call um to propose a voluntary workday reduction >> for non employees. I'll second >> non instructional employee. Everybody's essential. >> Second. >> All right. A motion has been made by Mr. and seconded by Mr. Aridonto for agenda item 6B. We'll go ahead and vote. >> I Dora. >> Hi. >> Albert Ready. >> Hi, Elena Gonzalez. I >> Oscar. >> I Rodriguez. >> I motion passes 70. the water. The time is 8:27. The next meeting is They had sandwich.

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