Board Meeting - April 7, 2025 – Special Board Meeting 5:30pm

001The time is 5:32 and I'll call this meeting to order. We'll have roll call. Elizabeth here. Everybody else here Rodriguez here. Okay. Let the record show that there is a quorum of board members. United States of America. which one nation indivisibley and justice for all to the one state and you want to Moving on to agenda item three. There is no public participation. So we'll move on to agenda item four. The items for discussion, deliberation and or action. 4 A is the discussion of the review of the West so ID budgets and legislative update and updated West pays for the 20 256 school year more and Miss Mendes thank you I think one of the main things is you guys that we want to see the key dates where the legislator will be meeting and

002one of the key ones June 2nd. Um that's when either most of the bills are passed or you know and then they'll be passed to the governor with their you know changes or modifications that they want to make. So June the 22nd is when either some scientific or that uh would that be and I think I asked you this this more but I don't remember. So would that be the day that or at least by then we would know the funding that we would get for public education? Yes, ideally. I mean you know I don't think remember two years ago they didn't decide on anything and then they called three and four additional sessions which went on in the school year. It went all the way on call and then members it was almost Christmas

003before they just said we give up. But I don't everyone is saying that's not going to happen. The governor says he's going to give public [Music] schools $300. So we have reason to at least we have reason to believe that we will know something but it should be that date June 2nd. So June the second where the the legislators had the last opportunity to pass it and then the governor has till June 22 actually and then they don't go into special session they're hoping to do it but that was like that last several special okay I guess just letting y'all know that in order for it to pass the Senate, u I guess it already passed because it's from March the 25th with no amendments and then and it went to the house on March

004the 3. So on your maintaining school foundation uh both the house and the senate they both have the same version. So they're both looking at trying to pass a 147 billion to pay off the you know or what's expected to be a increase on ADA and FTE which is a um daily average attendance and then your um your full time equipments. though. And then one uh8 billion for the golden penny uh three billion to for additional tax compression. So sometimes when they've said, "Oh, we're giving more to the schools." They're that doesn't really mean they're giving more to the schools. They're just kind of that's how much more it cost to kind of continue to do what they've done, but it's really not giving more. So additional property taxes relief, they're both at three point.

005So the um the Senate is proposing to go from 100,200 homestead. So what's their justification? Because yeah, the homestead is really good for the taxpayers, but it does hurt the the public school. So well, they're supposed to be making up the the state's supposed to be making that up. So the state saying we have all this extra money and what we want to do is use it to lower tax and then they do a homeless school a home what home harmless. So they give us money to so they have been doing that. Yes. Okay. Does it equal pretty much of what was doing in the previous not 100% but the values went up so Oh okay. Yeah, because I got my other day and I was like, we're still so zero, you know, on my

006right. And I'm like, okay. Does the the golden pennies only affect the maintenance side, the Mino or the Yes, that's the the M. So, are they what are they doing? They're allowing districts to increase. Yeah. So they because it it was capped. So I'm trying to read they have it tacked is in other words they're being more I think they're just saying they're putting more into the golden penny so they could be able to because they they were doing the compression so we were going down. So with them maintaining that more so then we can be more but that's something that the boulders would have to improve. So, as again as far as that 100,000 to 140, you're saying we're not really hurting their if they continue to offset it, but they're choosing to use

007their money basically to give it to the taxpayers instead of doing it more. But I did look up the constitution and it does state that if ever the state had abundance of money, that money was to go to education Texas. just say that I looked it up and I mean I guess that's the indirect way that they're doing the going around so they help the taxpayers and then they do the whole harvest. Okay. So on additional tax relief so let's see favorite topics and then school safety. Um the house version is giving uh proposing a point.4 billion to increase the school safety aotment and uh the second doing a.5 billion to increase the school safety aotment. Um it will include um 1 billion to pay for ES April, but they go by on that they're

008going to go by our enrollment numbers for what now? For for people for the school safety. They paid up for people, right? They go by campus and and also by there's a basic amount like I like how they did it. 15,000 per campus plus um a certain amount per So what are the numbers as far as what is considered a small district? Uh it's we're still like in the mid size of the small one is like 12. So we're not at the bottom of the small. So we're kind of in the middle believe it or not. There's so many rural districts like in West Texas there's so many only have a couple hundred. Yeah. So we mid small. We're considered midsoor anymore. No, we're poor. We were definitely consider it. We were no longer in

009that. We still get title and all that stuff and all that. Colossus was here. We moved to that upper upper level. We're back. Okay. We're back. Yeah. So that big one is like as Mor said it's the vultures. It's they're both doing the 1 billion to pay for. Wow. And it's been deceptive because at first the house version looked like oh it would be a little bit better because it's 85% but it's 85% from what we get from the state and local. So it's not 85% of that 6,000 like that per of the basic allotment. It's like 85% of the total tax now. So it's really more like I think it was like $12,000. It would be 10,000. I think it's like they're still basically both about $10,000. I mean that's honestly at the end

010of the day that's from the 6,000 that we get now or how much we get now. So basically we get well we'll get to that in a minute but what they're saying is it the house's version is that we parents would get 85% well when I first read it I thought it was the 85% of that basic student aotment but it's not it's taking like you know the basic a lotment we also have weighted ADA we have these this amount and we have the education um early childhood education it's actually not including federal But all the money that we get, like we take all the money we get from local and state pretty much and divide it by the number of students that we have, it gets close it's closer to $10,000. So the parents

011would still basically get $10,000. But she's asking, so does our basic aotment go from Oh, we're about to get there. Yeah, we're gonna get there. Okay. So glad you asked. Okay. That's 85%. But you're saying because it's No, we're saying that the vouchers the vouchers the vouchers or 85% of not that number total total number the other basic which she she's calculated would be about $10,000. Well, it's about 12,000 85%. That's what they're going to give the parents and vulkers. So both the honestly the Senate and House Bill at the end of the day they may look different at the bottom. That's what I keep 2,000 to home school. I know. I know that. [Music] school. There I don't care about the others. I just care what Okay. Highlight basic would be that is being

012proposed at 6,155. Your golden penny yield would permanently be frozen at 1292. And then um you would have the facilities where you get a portion of that that would be u amount over the state aid plus the total collections for the required debt. So they're uh trying to u keep schools from doing that we passed last u budget year in August 2024. They're trying to uh desensitize so that people don't have schools don't have an incentive so they won't be doing that early paying off your bonds. Um and then your basic alotment increase triggers that would be 40% of that uh of the year two overyear increase for chapter 48 which is your foundation school program revenue for compression increases and your bill requires prioritizing teachers with 10 years of experience and then your five

013years experience. So out of the money that they would send us now 40% would have to go to teacher pay increased amount increase to teacher pay. Yes. So 60% would not be requested restricted 40% would from 30 and out of that 40% 75 would have to go to 75% would go to our teachers and then 25% staff but then uh the more experienced the more money they would get. Yeah. And I don't think they worked out. Would it still come out to that percentage? Yeah, that total percent wouldn't be that just so we wouldn't do a straight. It would vary by and actual specific. Do you know what our goalies are right now? What the rate is? The rate savings. There we go. We have a golden penny savings. No, we don't have a golden

014penny, but we get from the golden penny. You're But you're saying I have another budget and appropriately on those. But anytime you increase those, we have to go to the tech. Yes. But once you get it is unless they do the compression. Unless they do, which we've been compressing them. Yes, we have. So, have we discussed any of that with Tony to figure out? We we've uh that's when we were then I mean we've uh looked at those pennies and that's when we decided to do the but we haven't looked at it again. That was just last year. This year that's true. And I think if we November we try to get it out. I think that was like three goldenies that we So are you saying taxes will go up by three cents or

015we're just shifting from one to another? No, they don't go out like would it help with the main operations but we went um that the business was on the we want to look at that since if if if uh the home state goes increases another 40% that means taxes are going to be lower I mean at some point. I I think personally we'll see what Tony says the year. I think it's really good if you want to bond your cast to be able to say we're not raising taxes. If we had questions for Tony Bison, he's coming to the next one because this one is mostly about personnel. Next month is going to be about um nonpay. So um our current uh M rate is 67% and then the current INS rate is 45%. So

01667 cents. M um or it's 66 something and I I just rounded it up. Right. You have like eight numbers after that. Seven. Okay. Okay. Small and then size a lotment of the drivers. Uh that's your basic a lotment and and the increase factors. Uh special ed a lotment overall. Um that's they're looking at giving that $1,000 for evaluation which right now we don't get anything on that. Um and then for transportation they're trying to increase it to 1.13 and right now it's at 1.0. Um that's basically looking at our rates and our miles that we have that would give us an additional approximately 21,000. Um bilingual a lotments would increase by 0.02 uh state comp that would be by 0.005 and then their early uh education a lotment would expand to include their prek.

017So then the number two special education and initiative evaluation that's when you initially first evaluate to decide whether the child is special and a lot of that happens at JFK to uh to first or kinder to first first grade. Well no you try to catch it early you do I mean you have some kids that day one they walk in. It just ma matters the scenario and I think at our last meeting we were saying those numbers were low because now we're looking at those younger Yes. kids. Yes. So those numbers should increase because a lot of it went to the elementary because second grade move to the So when you evaluate someone they're going to they're saying they're going to give you $1,000 for taking the time to evaluate them to see if right

018now it's coming out of your pocket. And let's just say I I evaluate Miss Jordan. Let's say she doesn't have any special needs, right? I'm still having to pay for the cost of evaluation and I'm never getting the funding for how but we do that now inhouse. Well, we still would do it in house if they would give us money to pay diagnosticians because we are diagnosing more and more. Yes. So, it would benefit us. So because they're still not even in special that chars doesn't even come into right. This is before they ever get placed. And which ones are we are is this the four year olds or is this the kinder or is it both? This would be all Oh, right now. Yeah. Well, the initial evaluations would be whenever I mean a

019child could come into us. Well, I know, but the four-year-old I'm you know when do we do evaluations? Do we have three year olds? We do not have three. Good. Okay. But that sounds good. Yeah. Okay. Another highlight is that they're looking at Let me backtrack. When you're saying whenever I thought as teachers they do that initial just do a check off point. Yeah. Yes, he's he's you know, let's say for dyslexia. Yes, the D's or B's. Yes. Is this I mean when we told you dyslexia is specific everything dyslexia definitely the end of kinder end of first and then any seventh grader everybody is that's across the board but sometimes it's developmental sometimes if you well you know that if you work with young kids well that's what I'm saying because as a prek

020teacher I couldn't just say I want him evaluated to have a prerequisite list that said a screener. Yeah. So we have that. So we're doing that, right? Of course. Yes. So they're not evaluated just at any time that they come in. No, I'm saying there could be one child might come in and if they're severely intellectually disabled, then they're going to be evaluated like that year. Somebody else m maybe they start exhibiting symptoms later on. I'm saying there's not a particular age where everyone's but that teacher is doing that the screener for any that's coming. Okay. So another highlight is that they're looking at insurance aid and if you look at the first tier is coastal counties and noises counties in there. So if they do pass this one we would benefit. So this is

021showing you the map of you know the different counties that qualify. They haven't attached any kind of money to this yet. No they haven't. Oh we're all by the water. [Music] hit by that get any money for the other highlights are teacher incentive a lotment that would give you a higher range for the existing destinations that we already have. They would add acknowledged designation and then they would create an enhanced teacher incentive a lotment for the district's designation. fine arts. We have um you know a 15 million per year statewide school deduction that would require 175 instead of the 180 and they would have an a funding for uh ADA decline. So that would benefit us and they would have an eight for districts assigned with state value under the pro uh project property value

022study. Um they create and it also would create creates grow your own partnership programs which we would we didn't do away with they they stopped by. Yes. So we kind of ran that. I have another question. So, so this is to encourage teachers to perform better and to stay with the district, right? So, if they go only the specific teacher would go from 180 to 175. Oh, no, no, that's something completely different. That's for the that would be the whole district or what? Yeah. Yeah, they're separate things. Oh, okay. All teachers perform I think they perform to their max. The problem I see in West is we're not talking. Okay. No, but you cannot this. Okay, Miss Jordan, you have 10 kids and I have 10 kids. You got all the smart ones. I got

023all the ones that And that's where our teachers are not at the same level. They're not at the same level. We've had this conversation. I' I've worked on it every year. I've been part of it. I can show you. I'd be happy to show you that. I think the TIA takes that into consideration. 100% consideration. I mean, I would think I would say maybe that second year, yeah, we weren't up to par as far as getting all those uh growth. It's not performance. Okay. Only Tia only grow enough. No, no, no. What I'm saying is it doesn't look at to get teacher incentive a lotment. It's not about do you do your kids achieve the highest. It doesn't look at that at all. It looks that does your stu each individual. So yeah, you may

024have the lowest I know. Yeah, it's only about there's no but you as a qualified teacher because let's face it as a teacher, it's your job. It's not your job to I get a which I would I get a fourth grader that reads at first grade level. It is not my job to bring I wish I could bring them to fourth grade level but it is my job to have them grow six months one year two years that's what I want to see because like I said 100% so some of the people that and I but some of the people didn't get it because they did have higher kids so the state has a metric where they're expecting those higher kids to grow in even the higher kids and we just over that with CC

025even the higher kids you know somebody said well what if I already made a hundred on the star last year well you still grow you still need to show so but how would you show growth if you pass the star test like with flying colors well you still need to maintain at that level so if you do it at one year you've got to continue doing it because it's a different test you did it in fourth grade you got to continue doing it at that high level in fifth grade. Let's say the next year you went to an 85. Well, then that would Well, I want to go back to the fine art. So, when you say there's a limit of 15 million divided by ADA throughout the state. I was not a competitive grant

026or anything like that. Is that like the music? This is the first time they've done it. Yeah. Oh, we have not got the music program. was not on there. They've never had a specific fine arts allowance which is part of the general and the ADA decline aid. So if your attendance decline, which ours has at times, what does that mean? That means if we continue the route we are going, you'll probably have qualified. If this passes, we would qualify. But we don't qualify now. But they it doesn't exist right now. Okay. So they they are So the benchmark would be the first year and then I had decided I haven't decided I think really this so maybe you're going to come along with that with this u added question have are they also proposing ADA

027versus enrollment. So that's not even off the table. Wow. I think we went to school. No we don't go days we go hours now isn't it? or something like that. So what is the minutes equal to 175 or 180 days? Yeah. 75 75,600. Um but we're you know we do a seven and a half hour day. Some school districts do a seven seven hour day. So but how what would it include like days like 175 days or 180? Because we used to go we used to go days, right? So, but I think we went I think they used to do seven hour day a little bit shorter day but more of them. This is just additional funding if you were to want to increase to 175 days. Most schools go back 170 now. Yeah. Okay.

028So, salary decisions thing that everybody wants to know. So, due to everything being up in the air and legislation, there's a lot of proposals. that we're going to take the safe side and not propose the salary because due to the fact that if you choose to propose something and the board passes it then legislation says okay you got to do this so we have to do our increase and whatever legis well we passed this can we pass with um like okay we haven't gotten this yet, but if they're going to give us money at a later date, can we then give them a salary increase? Well, we'll know about that. Yeah, we'll know about that hopefully. But if you do and it's totally different than what the state proposes, then you're still in the bind.

029We're not going to pass this till August. So, if they pass it in June, then we can still give them proposed date. It'll be mandated. Yes. So if they call a special session and say we're not passing it in June, oh god, you know, let's go back then. Can we do a She wants to know is it can you can but there's a risk that if you pass it differently, we're not going to pass it. We know we don't have the money. She's just saying what if we do the legisl 5%. We give them the 5% we eat it. But then but then the state says you're going to give them 30% or whatever of what we give you. That's another race. We should have waited for That's what I'm saying. August. So they pass

030it. Okay. But we have to pass the budget by the end of August. You know, we're gonna we're at basically, right? We pass it without a race for the teachers. Can we come back in December and say we're now going to retroact? I know. But can we Okay. The special session didn't start again till uh October. Yeah. So, is it retroactive for their beginning of the year date for the contract? We put it that way. Yeah, that I just want to make sure that we can give them something when the state finally that was to happen, we would do a budget amendment with the new money coming in and then when the new uh budget for salaries and all that correct that would have to be a budget amendment if we do it after budget

031passes better. House Bill 26 uh basically skipping the basic a lotment and passing it through obtaining. Uh House Bill two is increasing the basic a lotment and of course with that they do the 30% to the 40%. That goes to the salary. But do both of them basically still come out the same thing? Uh probably just who you're giving the money to and how you're giving the money. Yeah. It's more restrictive. Well, because you don't have numbers, you're saying, "Yeah, skip the basic a lotment. We have that number, but pass through a pay increase." What kind of pay increase? Well, they might do like this is the increase you have to do. Okay. And period and not so much a percent of that increase in So, they're just saying like 10,000 more for every I

032mean, they're not even saying. No, but I'm saying but that's what Yeah. would be Is that what we're looking at? Something like that. Not necessarily. Okay, teachers that have taught from 5 to 10 years, you're getting 5,000. Teachers that have taught from 10 to 20, you're getting, right? They might say something like a across the table. One gets 10, the other one has to get 10. You know that these numbers that next graph that you're going to go through, even if you try to make them big, they get blurry. I know. So it's kind of hard to Yeah, we'll read. We wrote out the ones at the end like the big ones. Okay. So we basically already discussed this and we're you know proposing to wait. Okay. This is just you know what we anticipated

033they would have proposing 17 I kind of did the bottom line on the next slide numbers we potentially have the potential of getting an additional 22 million Well, no. If one gets it, all board members get it. She got it on paper. It's easier to see. But if one gets it, we're all supposed to get it. It doesn't mean that each one of us has to ask for it. I got it. Well, I'm using the agenda item binder that I have to go through. Okay. No, no, no. No, no. That's not that's you see because here on the computer we can't see it that good. She really I read the most important numberific programs and this one kind of gives you the bottom line. So 2.2 million would be the potential gain of revenue that

034we could get. uh 40% of that which would be 914,000 would be going towards salaries and out of that uh 70% of the salaries would go to teachers which is 716,000 and the current number of teachers is 141 and approximately uh where if it was just a straight line increase we would get approximately 5,000 79 per teacher. So that 2.2 million is based on the new a lotment, right? It's including all the different things they're proposing programs. I think we had 200 m 141. We've had we have 141. We've had no more than about We had a little bit over 150 and we've gone down. We have about 300 employees but only 141 teachers. That's what I was looking at the total numbers. And that those numbers include your teacher incentive. So again, this is

035way oversimplified, right? Because if they do the five years or the 10 years, it doesn't mean that it's going to just be divided, but just to give you a ballpark, you know. Okay, just for the record, if you're going to print it, you're going to print it for everybody. I mean, we already talked about they didn't they didn't they didn't know what Diane I had. I went and asked Diane because I because other people get it. No, they should know. Yep. You should know what's been printed. Okay. I have way more time in my hand. Well, no, no, no. I do agree. We get it every day. I asked for one. Yes, you get one every day. We have said it over. No, but we have said it over. Yes. But right now we go

036back to it. But they didn't know. They didn't know. But she's the superintendent. Miss when you can't read it, we can't read it. So I would allow Yeah. board members. actually we shouldn't have to ask individual. Okay. So the goals for the 2426 budget are so that we can uh really the is putting the big goal is putting again into the fund balance. That's our goal because we do have to try to have a fund balance so that we can have a greater debt capacity. Uh along with that, uh we are if we build it, we can have a bond or if we don't build it, we're not able to have a bond. How how is that going to work? I'm sorry. We could if if we have the limited um if we have the

037limited fund balance that we have right now, we could still pass a bond. It wouldn't build this a junior high. So the more we build it then the more capacity so that we're able to borrow enough so we can build our basically we don't have three months worth we're building just to get there the main thing is we need a junior high I know we I mean I need plumbing and all that stuff but that junior high are we waiting for it to fall on somebody or a wall topic we're gonna address it next and that's my hope I will not pursue a bond if it does not include Again, that's we are going to be driving. That is my main goal has been that for years. Well, we did kind of uh talk about

038it last week. Um the priority thing that we do need per campus, right? And you were discussing that loan. I mean, I think that's our that's our only one or main option. Right. Well, yeah. You said just just for those maintenance. I mean, those things that I mean, we're not going to let that roof go. We can't let it get continue to get watered. But we're going to discuss even more. So as far as the finance budget workshop that we have, we plan to have more information and different helpful. Yes. The whole this is just payroll but the next one is not okay. Okay. The principles that we're joined by we're looking at making a center a student centered decision when we're making this budget. We're looking at an ADA so that we can make

039sure we can cut back where we need to. We're doing a modified zero base budgeting which means that we're starting with zero and we we get justification for those numbers so that we don't you know just when we had that number prior years doesn't mean you're going to get that same funding. And uh we're just trying to really um really look at the numbers, look at the historical and numbers and then looking at the future so that when we're building our budget, you know, it aligns with our district goals and that way it has to be also in our improvement plan and that way it all kind of makes sense and our budget we're not budgeting things that are not necessarily Well, I will say even though we have 141 teachers, Our classroom sizes are

040small. They are. They are. We counted them at the hospital and the most I saw in one class was 20. Well, if there's two or three that are out sick, yeah, that's going to be an average of every day. So, the average were 12 14. Yeah. But she she provided that when because I asked her where is your student teacher ratio? That was what we had discussed on the meeting previously. So yeah, they are they're low in small classroom size factor factors that include the budget. Budgeting of course as we talked about legislating is a big deal because we don't know what's going to be funded. Um our local property revenues um enrollment as we all know it's declining. So that's one big factor that has a big effect on it. uh staffing costs. As

041we look at student enrollment, be looking at staffing. So, we're trying to look at that real closely. Um operational expenses, that's a really big one on us because we do have a lot of maintenance issues that you all know. inflation. Um, that's really a big factor because we haven't the state hasn't really given us the revenue to maximation and attendance is another big factor. Okay. Uh, what I want to propose is from now on, I know you're giving us those figures on attendance that Mr. Autoo is always looking at and seeing where we go. But I want those enrollment trends also to see right there on enrollment trends on right there. Where's that at? Right there. Big she does. But is it the one that I'm I'm asking for the one that's forecasting in the

042next five years, in the next two years? I know Mr. Fosters used to do that. Yeah, but that's what you're going to get right now. Yeah, I know. But have we been doing that one where it's forecasting? We the one that I had was we forecasted for two years and we're not meeting what we told the city. So So they're budgeting for what we have right now in the budget so that we don't have to pay the state. Can I get a a copy of that right now? I can look at it because I was thinking maybe five years because we have to have those numbers on the back of our mind every time we're discussing something as far as expenses and staffing costs and looking at all that we have to have it in.

043I mean, we've done two, the state doesn't even do five years because we did two years and we lowered it from what it was. We lowered it so that we wouldn't have to pay the state. So, we're going to continue to lower it. We're lowering it for the next two years. That's why they the state recommends the 88 to the state. We had like 2,000. Yeah. And we the state no one is doing fiveyear projections of enrollment because you know there's so many factors like if this development comes up. Well, why was doing it then? I don't know. I think it was it's two years for the enrollment. That's right. We in trouble where we are right now. Well, I'm just saying you're saying five years. You would be on the back of your mind.

044Yeah. Because that financial officer just said put his numbers in there. We didn't know he was showy that there's so many things. Let's say the vouchers that's going to get there's too many factors. TA says just to do the two years. Okay, I want a copy of that right now because I that's why I was like, "Wait a minute. Have I seen the enrollment trends?" I did feel I got a hard copy of this. [Music] These are the scales. This is the administrative and professional pay scale. Those are the actual numbers. Yeah. Right. Yes. Okay, we'll go here. Let's turn down the sign. Yeah, but I want I do want to look at it before we leave. That's why. Okay, so this is a 2425 pay scale that was approved and the next one behind

045it is a 2526 proposed pay scale. We didn't change anything on the um pay scale on funding part. We just kind of went in there and looked at the different positions and we modified if we needed to some of the days to match whatever was necessary. But other than that, it's the the dollar amount stayed the same. And I think uh some of the changes we did here was um we uh took out like a parent coordinator and a technology coordinator coordinator Texas. I thought we had to have one. You had a parent engagement activity. Yeah, the parent engagement is mandatory. the parent engagement. Well, we we're this year we're using a lot a lot of the parent engagement is coming out of ACE and then I have one of the high school counselors is

046also coordinating. So, what was her name? Yeah, she left. Yes. Okay. But required by the state of Texas, we're supposed to have parent engagement program. We have a parent is a different program. It's part of our parent engagement. That's actually not true. So Judy Gonzalez Rodriguez is helping coordinate it and then um they work with the campuses. So we have two instead of one. No, there's not a single person and then you have the one from the high school. That's two. I can count one, two. There's no one in this district whose title is parent engagement coordinator. We have parent engagement activities. There's parent engagement activities happening through ACE. There's parent engagement activities happening at the campus and in the district like the celebration of education. We just had a meeting today. It was CIS

047meeting with um CIS was there. Don and uh was there the campus principal myself. It's a team because we we are short. Lindy helps with parent engagement. That was when we were trying to to get less topheavy. We eliminated a parent specific position. So that qualifies came back and put other people in there. We didn't add a single position this year. What position did we So that satisfy state? Yeah, you need to have a parent engagement activities and program and a lot of that coordinated at the campus. I'm coming back to Liz. She makes statements, but I want to know what she's talking about. What what staff did we add? We didn't have staff. You have people doing the job that we have staff, right? in order to save money. Yes, we do. And that

048was we had but these are still people who was employed within the already. They take one hat off and put another put on another one. So in order to save money because they don't have so you we take one person from here and we leave this other place without a person and you know we have that's where I think the the disruption in the with students and whatever happens like you have you have runners at JFK you have runners ato you know because we're moving this person to this person to this place when we should have them with this person here. I need to do personnel so that I don't think we're talking about Okay. No, but I I do want to follow the the the track. So, you're saying you're getting rid of the

049parent coordinator because that's not We did last year. There's no parent that was a position. Yeah. Again, our budget we're in 2425 board. That's why I'm asking. Correct. So, parent coordinator is listed on here for 2425. Yeah. the we didn't have anybody in there. It was just the position that was there. It was on the salary scale because we're not again sometimes you leave it there in case you decide to hire somebody. This is just this but nobody's getting paid for it. 30,000 because we didn't have nobody. We have that money. We don't because we didn't budge it. We didn't we didn't pay it. We It was You didn't cover it. You didn't do any of that. And part of it and I was to share with y'all last year, but part of it is

050of our teachers if they go up a sk a step then there's no matter what they're going to get a little your payroll goes up even if you have the exact same people because they're going up on the pay you know the salary schedule. So no matter what your pay is going to go up even if we don't do a you know a percent increase it's going to go up. Yeah, I I I understand that, but I I'm just following what you have here and those little So, in the past, we've had people on this that weren't really This is what's called the position. They said, "If we had that position, this is how much they would pay." Yeah. Well, that's what I'm trying to understand. So, the parent coordinator is there and listed the

051amount, but we never filled that position. Correct. So when you're saying you're going to 25 26 without it this time you took it all right we're just cleaning up the schedule. So who is like the parent engagement then for 25 26 where's that I didn't say that I said there's a combination ACE does have a requirement but where's that position so the ACE program specialist it's a a component I get that I want to know where that position the ACE program specialist is what that's a piece of what she does is family engagement So the district we don't use our money and that's being used from the grant money, right? Because it's ACE. So we're not using our money from our district. We're using is money from our district. Okay. But the grant you're using

052the grant money for part of it because we're required to the ACE grant and they're going to be presenting at the end of the month. They've done three presentations and every single one of their presentations has shared the fact that parent engagement is a requirement of the ACE program. So we do it through ACE title one also has parent engagement requirements. So for example, so for example reading restaurant that's a family engagement activity. That activity happens to be coordinated as the librarian is the lead person. So when you go to if you go to reading restaurant on Wednesday we're going to use some title one funding to for the books and stuff as part of that parent engagement celebration of education. Like I said, that's a a parent engagement activity. Um, Hispanic Heritage, we've got

053all kinds of just coming out of different uh departments, right? It's just the different people that might contribute. You have your, you know, black history, that's a parent, these are all parent engagement, family engagement activities that meet the title one requirements for engagement. But those are the activities. So, what I'm there's not you're not required to have a full-time staff person for parent engagement. Not asking that. I'm saying so your ACE program specialist that money let's say it's midterm 97,000. Yeah. So yeah, I already told you about that, right? It's fixed. What is it? What is it on the on page one? Oh, it didn't get fixed. Shoot. How did it not get fixed on 28? It's not 97,000. It was I thought we fixed it. Go back to the previous one. It got fixed

054there. I'm sorry. The other one. No, it's it was just it was a typo. It's 65,000 would be midpoint after 15. Sorry. Is most of these shadows in the midpoint. It just depends. I mean, if you're if you're early career, that's like zero years experience. Midpoint would be about 15 years experience. End point is about 30 years. So it just depends on who the person is. So the minimum is from what what year? How many years? The minimum you're literally your minimum. So you're starting in on a position you've never going to five years or so. Yeah. So help me understand this because I get what she's saying. She's saying you have a what a 10 million $1 million contract with ACE where where you are distributing some of that money to that uh what

055what are you going to call it? Program specialist program specialist and that's a requirement of the in that is a requirement. So you're saying that's the one that's also taking care of we have several presentations. Well, let me finish my question. So you're telling me that that is a requirement for ACE, but is that is part we're using that as part of parent engagement? So you asking who does parent engagement, right? So it is the the program specialist here. That's a part of it. Part of it. So her whole salary that whole salary is not always coming out of a I'm sorry. Well, because you're saying all these all I'm saying that we don't come out of we're saying that we don't have a specific person full-time job is parentage. We don't have that. We

056eliminated that position because the district we're trying to increase our fund balance and the campuses were doing a lot at the campus level. So that means you know um what Marcy does her whatever trunk or treat she has she pulls in her assistant principal with her with her grade chairs with her um CI community and schools person the community schools person and they're organizing a lot of that event. We don't have a separate person to do that anymore. So, but uh so who's getting this pos who do we have an actual one person that is a program specialist? But only a part of her position and I can I can get you the the presentation y'all got on ACE because we've done about four of them and everyone shows you that we have we have

057to have a program director, we have to have program specialist and we have to have a site coordinator of each campus. Okay. Um I will send you all that. We've had the same presentation. Those are requirements by the ACE R. That's not a choice of ours. So that program specialist her job is is family engagement but it's also monitoring the program itself. So monitoring um helping she works hand inand with Biz Marshall in terms of all the things the program the enrichment activities it's part of her job description. Right. So today I'm working in ACE but this afternoon I have an event. The event is not going to qualify as a parent engagement event. Right. So we're having by the grant. It's still being paid. Yes. By the grant, not by our district. Correct. If

058you said she's got one from the high school, that's been paid by her district. The high school is paid by a part of her of her job. Just a very small part of her job is because she had a background in federal program. She's helping us with some of the federal program compliance pieces again and if I want to stay in compliance. So what she helps with is coordinating like collecting the signin sheets from our title one events our survey. So she's helping with a little bit of that. It comes from her regular paid but it's it's now an umbrella now that you're now doing parent engagement. Is that correct? That's correct. Right. It still works. She's counselor, specialist, aid. No, I say that when Jackson is that position, that number 100 and whatever it

059is, the the high school person, high school counselor is primarily a high school counselor and she's also helping with title one coordination, which any small district, you might have the GT coordinator, could even be a classroom teacher, go to any small district, they don't have separate people. also my thing is I don't have the money to have a separate person and that's what that's what I need as the as counselor the counselor gets paid so you have designated people on the campuses that aren't per se parent engagement coordinator but that is a part of their job because you have to split it in order to save money the Mr. I know. But we're trying to be good stewards of the money that we can get. I get that, Miss Four, but I just I want

060I just want to know. I mean, I don't see your budget every day. So, I want to know how it's split because if somebody asks, "Oh, y'all y'all don't have a parent engagement coordinator?" No, but we have designated people at each campus that helps out in that because we are trying to save money. And I know it's all about trying to save money if it's if it's going to benefit us and benefit our students and not hurt them. Uh but yeah, we've done just as we've been working very hard and we've done tons of family engagement activities. But that's what I'm saying. So y'all are doing y'all are doing it. Lindsay helps us like with the flyers. I mean people have different roles in these family engagement. So Lindsay's role is creating the flyers, doing

061the social, you know, the social media, promoting it, putting on parents for everyone has different roles and we collaborate. So as far as the money, because we can ask as far as the money, uh, like Lindy's role, I thought it was technology. So yes, she helps out with parent engagement, but we're not separating that money and saying part of it is going, part of it is going to each other. Yeah. No, but I mean it's been done. I've seen that where y'all Well, maybe not y'all, but Colossus did a part of this. You know what y'all call it? The that number one. No, no. You like here you have the number. Y'all y'all said, "Oh, we coded it wrong." because part of their salary goes here and then part of I've heard not you that's

062true for special ed if they're doing special ed and then a regular class well it's true for anything because I've heard it I've been on the board for 25 years and I did hear it oh part of it was coded wrong because they were doing this and they have split that salary that's why I'm saying if you follow that you would never have anything that this is how much we have paid for actual parent engagement or whatever, right? We are not claiming this year. In the past, we've claimed part of a salary for family engagement. So, you have when we do this when we whenever it's like they're doing special ed, we're required like that. That's required. This one it would be the same kind of funding. So, we don't know. And here you have

063the high school counselor at midpoint. Midpoint 68,000. 68. I can't see I cannot see one person doing all of this without instrument. I can't. Not in this time and age. I can't I cannot see. Okay. Uh but we're just saying it's not one person. people are doing different right several people. So where is the money coming from? I I you gotta be there giving them a stipen giving them something because they're not multitasking. Well, hey multitask in private business. You have I want to see you know what I better yet I'd like to see no name on the contract just a contract. I want to see where it says all of this stuff on there. That's what I want to see. None of the none of the contracts none of our contracts are either teacher

064contracts. I want to see a teacher contract without no name. It doesn't It doesn't teach me like that. Exactly. Well, why not? That's not the way it works. You just give them a teacher contract for a year or you give an administrative contract and you give them their job description. I can give you the job description. Yes, ma'am. Other things and other assigned things. cover the job description, but that's not the contract. The main thing is we got to satisfy the state. Correct. And it's worked very very well this year. I know, but all I'm all I'm asking is for that explanation. So, we can't really follow the money on parent engagement because you have there's no Yes. That's all I wanted to know because it's like if you took away that role in 2425

065who's picking it up because you have assigned a dollar amount here. That's why you know so you're saying but this wasn't our budget. This was just the salary scale. This isn't our budget. This wasn't saying okay we have a budgeted 60 something thousand that's a complete well you have proposed 25 26 positions and then f and that's why we we decided to kind of pick it up we did the same thing with your clerical and professionals pay plan. Uh we eliminated some of the positions that we hadn't hired for and we kind of looked a little bit at the dates and uh they were on some of them 176 and we moved them up because we saw that we needed them at some additional days so we added them to 108. So yeah, again, it's

066a couple years ago and we were trying to, you know, we were scared because we didn't have any money in the bank, so we cut them back and now we're realizing, you know, we've ended up having to pull them in, do like extra duty, extra pay, so we might as well just bring them in. So you're adding more days. We're adding the days. They they were originally at 180. We tried to cut back, but what we found was there was times that we needed to pull them in for training, so and we paid them, so we might as well just put the budget. So, under the secretary. So, I know you're gonna get a secretary, Miss Mendes. That you said that position had been filed. An account. So, you do have a secretary where that

067secretary currently though is doing a little bit of ace. Right. Right. But I just want to know about the line item. Uh, should we have CN Secretary CFO 115? No, it says secretary assistant superintendent CNI H this year's we have an assistant superintendent. No, that's why we took it off. If you look at the next page in the 25, we're trying to clean it up. Okay. But we're going I mean, you're telling me I'm on 24 25 page 3623. I'm going to ask you about it and then you're going to tell me we took it out. So go to the cleanup page. Avoid all the confusion. Just go to the cleanup page. No, we needed to know what was on 24. Like on 29, page 29, you have secretary to assistant superintendent, right? We realize

068that you have secretary chief financial officer that Okay. So it shows up the same line item. So Miss Mendes, is that the same line item for the CNI human resources secretary? Yes. Y'all just didn't. There's no assistant superintendent, so we just got rid of that. No, but what I'm saying is that if you're like go to 113, everybody has a line item, right? Okay. Now 114. Why don't we have a line item for accounts payable computer desktop tech help desk? The secretary said okay. Yeah. Because the reason that there's the different line items is because they were different amount of days. So this this this all are going to follow see I don't know all that your coding and everything. So I was just like, so how what are y'all I mean what's the position

069for the chief financial officer as far as you look at the 2526 which is this one that's up here. If you look at line 115 that's so because of the that u calendars number yeah you're saying there that's the same uh position numbers right thank you okay oh so we want to say the one position we are adding is a secretary um coach with athletic director. She's been doing all of her own administrative assistant stuff. It's been that's been the same for years and years and years. Right. Problem because she's work she's working her school. Okay. But for years and years and years they've done it. Correct. And now she wants the secretary. She did not even ask us. It's us that said that recognized that she knows all. Well, I'm sure she does everything,

070but she's got what five or 10 coaches that can be helping doing it? No, ma'am. How many coaches does she have? The coaches are coaching. Coaching teaching. Yeah. Yeah. Who? She teaches. Well, she teaches athletics. Oh, yeah. you know, like nobody in perspective. My thing is if we've done this, you know, and now we need well, you know, the schools need the schools need somebody to be in the front answering the phone all the time. Not having one different person, another different person, another pull this one from here, pull this one. We should have one certain person. Doctor's office have it. Every office has it and we did away with it, but now we're going to add a position. Correct. Because it's because Cheryl the amount we're adding different athletic programs. We're talking about entering

071her requisition calling about food orders. That's she's a lot of skills and talents. She works on counseling with her students. She does a lot of things with tutoring. It makes it doesn't make sense for her. She's the only person at her level that doesn't have So all your all your administrators have some or administrative assistant. She's the only one that hasn't requirements have changed a lot throughout the years. Now we have to have a whole vendor package. You can start. You didn't when you used to have that was just you enter the vendor and there you go. There's a lot more compliance that is going and I thought those come to your office. They do but they need to they do but they need to be they need to get their vendor pack from their

072vendor because there's no way that we have ability to do it in the business office. So all that comes ready for you to check your secret the secretary the designated secretary does that and and those vendors are really like they're really lengthy and complex that you know some of the bankers don't even know where to start up with. So, you know, and and they hate them and we understand that it's just a requirement. Give us an example of what you're talking about. The vendor packet will have several pages and then you have to have your W9 and then after that you have to answer if you're have any kind of interest with the district or we're talking about when we want to procure something, right? A new once you have an existing vendor, you don't

073you don't have to go through all that again. Yeah, you're you're correct. But we do need to you know to begin with we need to begin with and then a period athlete we have to go back and collect them because the people move things change you have you know we have there's a thing in there where you have to know if they do business with Israel or decline and then you know the packet itself has changed so you have to go in update so all this time my understanding is that the secretary at the high school did it No, since then the the requisitions for the high school athletics is its own beast. So like for example last week the girls competed at district okay x number of girls are going to get to go

074to area then you've got to turn that you can't advance through those requisitions because now you don't know the exact number. It's its own beast. Games are changing. Um it's raining. So now yeah there's there's even know who's going to make it and who's not. And I can understand all that. I understand it. But it's every every school year has been the same thing. This changes, that changes, that schedule changes. It's been the same. When we recognize a need and a lot of people recognize the need, we don't know how to agree. Yeah. It's definitely was not Cheryl asking. She's here. She can't even She tells me she can't even start doing work till 6 PM when she's doing secretarial stuff. Yeah. Um, and so I value her more in terms of all the other

075things that she's doing. We can get someone to to do that. So hopefully all your administrators are covered as far as a secretary who can input their requisitions or whatever. I mean, right now we'll have that. Yes. You already hired somebody for that. Absolutely not. So the requisition that John F. Kennedy has a requisition now is it coming in like because I've heard this throughout the district not but throughout the district that requisitions are kept they're not immediately turned in and it takes like weeks to have them to turnovers and all that requisitions if they're kept probably by their secretary at their own camp because they're required to put it in there. So if they really do have an issue, tell them to bring in the PO and then the PO is time set. Okay.

076So once they put it in there, it goes through a whole approval. So it it t it could take more than the W because it goes to different like five or four different persons. So then we got that legally because you have to get different people's checks and balances on it. So before you get but technically honestly most people are usually call we tell them we cut text on the 15th and end of the month they never they're constantly hey can we have a check right now we need it so they're not putting in there ahead of time but if they do really have that issue just give me that PO and we can take care of that issue and again we haven't we don't I haven't gotten hardly any complaints well that used to

077be a somebody else that's why I think that's what she because a lot of times we're going back to that because that's what we know uh that yeah your secretaries were holding uh requisitions I mean and I'm not saying yours the ones at the campuses were holding requisitions and the teachers were asking for this stuff and it wasn't it was coming in six months later. I mean that's so we're not encountering that for them to blame the business office because we're not there. So typically if the if the secretary holds it back they say oh it's a business office because they said it's true but uh what's happening right now is that we give them a gave them a cut off of April 15. So they're turning a bunch of trying they're trying to do

078a spin off. Okay. So I got to be smart about how they're doing it. So they'll go and they'll because I see it. They'll go through the penny and you know you're not gonna be and the other thing is they're they're doing a lot of but the request. So I'm not going to do those quickly because I know what to do. So right now I am going to sit. So let's say you get an invoice that's dated from January the 15th and it's just going through. Oh no. Yeah. Can you reply if you have a No, you're sorry. this invoice apparently already. So, no, you're getting a requisition that was requested in bank. Yeah, we really don't. That's that has stopped because it was a problem back then. They would be they would be camped

079out here if they Well, no, that's what I mean. I remember those. Yeah, I always tell them like if there's something, you know, yes, we cut off and we have all those rules and stuff, but there's something that you absolutely need that's going to happen, call me directly and we'll make it happen within that same day. If it's, you know, don't make everything an emergency, right? An example was last year some of the athletes were like 8K but come to find out the coaches were requesting money for after the game to go beat them said the athletes weren't getting paid what do you mean they were athletes so much and see that they let you know the business said what's going on. and said we never saw all they have to do y'all is request

080but then but then Cheryl's so now I think Cheryl's doing a lot of that right that's the kind of thing that secretary got in the yeah but we haven't really had because they had bought all day and then all for their gig and then they get and it was like what happened to pay out of his pocket and then he charged the district. Yeah, I remember that. That's not a practice that they used to they they did when they didn't get the check to take the kids like to go to the radio or whatever and on the way back he stopped. He made sure everybody ate and well that it's not a fact that they didn't get the check. It's the fact that he didn't submit that there was no money because that's what was

081natural. Okay. So the next set of pay scale that we really modified is your auxiliary. That one did we did a lot of changes and we I guess I'm going to focus first on the food service. That's the one. If you notice on the 24 sides, you have a snack bar, you have a food service worker, you have a cashier, you have a cook baker, you have a snack manager. You look at the 25 26, you cut it down to food service worker, the food service driver, and then you just have your manager. Okay. Snack bar. What are we talking about? A snack bar. Well, that's why we're getting rid of it. Is it the the football snack bar or what? Snack bar. They had a snack bar like at school. They called it a

082snack bar. Something that we should have done away with. Like you're you couldn't sell. You're not supposed to what? have a camera. No, that is allowable. They only sell what's allowable. What they have when they giving the students a little bit choice a choice is that they don't only have to get their their regular lunch regular lunch. If you really don't want, you can pay out of pocket or you know when I went to so they had a everybody went to the stock for saying in terms of a job we all of our food service work corporates we want them to be able to do anything. You're not supposed It just got my caught my eye at the snack bar. That's a snack bar at the game. That should be volunte. All the kids went

083to the My kids were here. They never ate. I mean it was like and if you stand there and watch how much how much food is thrown away it's sad. I mean it is very very sad to the regular lunch just throw it away. They don't eat it. They made improvement in the left tweeters. I can tell you that. So yeah we're changing. So we feel that's going to work. We did the same thing with the um maintenance and some of those um position that we need. Grounds keepers. Yes. Okay. Why if we have grounds keepers? Why do our grounds look so ugly and nasty? Contract it out. Mia contracted out. Okay. But we have grounds keeper. What does that 26 261 days for grounds keepers? That's what you have. She can't fill those positions.

084Yeah. And we are able to get at the Okay. We have um we have um at the high school Mr. What's his name? He's a man. He's not a grass keeper. Isn't that all part of maintenance is keeping up the properties of the district? Well, he used to do it before. Well, he does do it, but he's that's not his only job. And it's that's where we struggle. He's in. [Music] Yeah, exactly. And you know, again, well, I've gotten called about the properties, you know, the old junior junior high Skinner property. You know, why do they look like that? Well, because we don't have people that want to cut the grass. Why don't you all cut it? I mean, y'all have a problem. Want to cut it. I don't care. You know, I got to

085go cut it. So, have we I mean I know in the past we went to telling services but she even said right that they're not even getting them from them. They they don't send them. They don't they don't and we have to do that. It got even harder because we were getting, you know, from a contractor and as because now we require to have their background. It was so it's getting harder to get AC. It's No, it really is hard to get. I mean, I do think regardless of just my opinion, regardless of what the legislative session does, I think we probably do need to try to pick pick some of this up a little bit. you know, again, as far as the pay, that's why we're not attracting them. Yeah. So, we're at the

086same pay as CCISD. Yeah. I think that's what I thought that we had. Yeah. But everyone's struggling to get busy is struggling. Everyone is. I mean, oh, we're still struggling with bus driver. She have the teachers if they don't have a class better drive a bus. Well, the lady in Canada was driving the bus. Yeah. Yeah. When we're hiring, well, it should be on their the maintenance person also drives the bus. I mean, we do have one of our maintenance person that he was really good and and he did get his CD out. He's driving. So you know if you have your CO we'll take you and it has to be endorsed. So everybody, you have to be careful with diabetes and stuff like that because it disqualifies. If you're diabetic, you can't grab a

087bus. If your blood sugar drops and you go, if you have diabetes, you can't you can't Oh my god. Even if you're a diabetic, but don't you have to have like from the doctor every three months a you're good to go. I'm diabetic and let me tell you if you diabetes one two. So if I'm calculate what calories I'm going to put into me if you miscalculate Yeah. It's either gonna be too high or or it could drop. Yeah. See, I don't tolerate anything. My sugar is fine. I don't have any problems. Then you're fine. You keep trying. That's something that is dry. Well, that's not something I would ever I would probably tell the kid, okay, get off right there. I don't care where you put I did that to my granddaughter. I I

088brought her off on Yorktown and Staples. Walk home. I ain't taking you home. Walk home. I looked at the revenue all the way from 2007 all the way to 24 and if you see I mean there hasn't really been much of an increase. The only increase we really had is basically um and here's a Charlotte is basically going to be when we received those ESTR funds and if there ever whenever we did the over protection we got more money but the next so this doesn't include our tax base it includes everything because when oil was good and all that we had other business here that are bond which be like if you look at of was around. I think about 16 you were going 20, you were going at 18. It was it kept on

089going up and then after that the only thing that brought it up was funds. We should ask Elon Musk. So here's the payroll so you can get a picture of how payroll is going and you know it's been um of course pay increases one of the factors the other one is the number of staff that we had but if you see I mean you know there we have been bringing down payroll but that's mainly been through attrition I mean not really that oh we're cutting cutting back on here's a short on Okay. So my recommendations is I keep on you know making adjustments looking at overall spending and we do I mean from small items from you know our copers to big items of you know uh personnel that's your big you know we make

090sure that our student teacher racial you know it's it's not as low as it used to be. It's still I mean we still like y'all mentioned we still have the you know pretty good numbers in there that we can work with um but we got a we're pushing enrollment so that hopefully we can get numbers earlier that way we can open today registration open today that way then they're good and then it's asking me for oh immunization the latest yeah start I saw that too I saw know that. But you know what I read and I thought it was really funny. It says um you can come you can transfer over to Westoso. No documents needed. Um and it's on your it's on the Facebook. Let me let me look for it. No, what it

091says is if you're currently a student, if you're currently a transfer student that we're not going to require you to reapply if you know you get pre basically you're preapproved, you're prevetted and that's going to help us a lot with paperwork because we were having to go through all that application and all that paperwork every year. But you do need to update your immunization. So there used to be there's two processes accepting you as a transfer and then your registration. So the registration part hasn't changed. It's the fact that we're not going to make you if we know you're in good standing. We're expedite and not blue students. We're we're not making you refill out that transfer application. That's just updated your information. But all students have to register. Of course. Yeah. because you needed

092me who's coming in. I think we shouldn't skip that step. You shouldn't have skipped any steps in the registration. It's in terms of it's with the transfers. If you Okay, but we should especially the transfers. The step was the principal said if returners or not returners, we should not skip the step where they need to to turn in whatever documents are needed to be in school. It's just an application. That's the only thing that's being stopped. They're doing the regular registration with everyone else. Okay? Even the transfer should do the application. It is not fair. Everybody if I if my kid goes to school here and I have to register transfer students are registering. Yes. Fill out the transfer application. There was an additional application, right? are transfer. That's the only thing that you should

093not do away with the transfer application. Even if they're here in in Westa, if they've been here since they were in kindergarten, well, we made a decision that we that we are going to there's still a process. So, what's happening is there's a spreadsheet and the principal said, "Is the students grades good? Is their attendance good? Is there um they got betted before we say they got they they got bit before we say this is how I say we stop thinking of the education we're now thinking of let's bring money in that's actually not yeah that's how I take it when you say something like that or you know we're trying to get we want these these students here like those that come from whatever the heck they come from the money it's the money

094education the way I see it is they've already been vetted they've already compensated for we know they don't have discipline problems. Why are we gonna make do all that? Right. But we have to and No, we don't. We just have to update it, right? And that's it. I complain. Oh, yeah. We have to bring you our social bill by wife and then you'll finally make it easy for us, right? Because what happens is it's a lot of paperwork because we're talking about a lot of paperwork and there's a lot of paperwork to manage we have stacked that paper and we end up losing kids because we haven't gotten back to that parent to say oh your child is approved your job is approved so this year Amy sent out today and you know she worked

095a lot to get back congratulations your child was you know stayed maintained their grades they've maintained their attendance they've maintained their discipline and we would like them to continue in west for the transfer studio. Correct. And now you must go ahead and register. Everybody that's when you need to update your address, correct and all that stuff. Yeah. And to be honest with you, over the weekend, we spent I spent the last week pouring hours over that those transfer documents. Um our transfer kids are pretty good kids. I mean honestly when when all was said and done even some of the the few that we're going to deny none of them were fighting nothing I mean you know why are we denying them well there were issues with attendance and grades but it's not like these

096were you know the reason there was attendance grades or um I know TM had a has a contract that you have to parent and child has to sign that if you know your grades go your discipline or you don't pass a STAR test, any of that, you go back to your home campus, no questions asked. So, I know that because we had to fill that. Yeah. And and but what I'm saying is when I looked at the hey, we have 350 kids. Most of them are doing really really good. There's only a small handful that we even had to look at to be honest with you that weren't doing well. Yeah. 350 kids that are transfer students. Okay. So, thank God for those transfer kids because overall a lot of them they're bringing up our

097overall um academics. They're bringing up our overall you know these are good kids and you know the majority of them are either staff children, alumni children, kids that are coming for early college, kids that are coming from athletics. These are good kids. They're not problems. But you know the the early college all districts have it. I'll just get it. Not only paying we are we are they're paying for the tuition but in terms of we're paying for all and all that. So I know because my granddaughter's we're not having to put anything in. Now we pay for it in s they charge you a thousand or so and that's why some of these students are coming because uh you know they're like golly we have to pay for and we also give the kids a

098lot more individual oneonone our kids get you had last Saturday rights ti showed up. I was so excited. Um, we really did a lot of kids show up. So, and going through the learning walks, I saw that your teachers do give those students that attention. They do. They really do. Hi. It's it it was it was you could tell it wasn't they were put but the kids were coming in. Yeah. The kids were coming in. You didn't see them in the hallway. Oh, acting up. I mean because how many how many hours before that did they know that y'all were going down? That's the question. No, they didn't. They walked in and they were like they knew that we were go they know that the learning walls are happening. Therefore, yeah, I called over there

099and it doesn't matter what time of the day. Well, I know you go all the time. I know that. Well, let me tell you. I know. I I what I saw that day is what I see every day. So unless you're there with your eyes, you shouldn't be saying that. Oh, well I don't go there because we're not supposed to be on the campuses. You shouldn't be saying that. We're not supposed to be on the campuses. Not even if you're so I can't meet at the library. I've been there. I mean, I've been there. You all are welcome, right? We have nothing to hide. You're welcome. That's what I budget for the 2016 year. We're looking at the scales like we're looking at the student teacher ratio but as we doing that we really would

100look at our expensive road closing but our revenue you know we're basically going to be working with the revenue that we anticipated this year. We don't we're not looking at any predicting that the legislative might pass or not. We're going to work with the regular revenue that we have. Um we are um looking at utilizing all the pay scales. We'll look at TASBY to make sure we're lined up. Um, and we might have to target a few decisions and but other than that, we're just going to wait for next. Okay. As far as waiting uh, but would we be ready? Like I'm sure you have your scales. If we if we were uh deciding on a 1% raise on a 2%, would you have that ready? So the legislature said, "You know what? We're going

101to give you $100,000 learn." Well, definitely because that we're already going to have it all set. We're looking at betting everything from the payroll and nonpayroll. So we'll have it set to where I'll just plug in different percentage or a month in there. So I'll have my formulas in there. So we can give that money out as soon as possible. You know that let's say they're not going to maybe they'll surprise us. They'll give it back in they'll give it in November. It will be ready. Yeah, definitely. We have to have all that because it takes a lot of work and our templates ready. I can imagine. Okay. But what are you go back to the I know we haven't gotten anything from from them. They haven't said what they're going to give us or

102anything. But are you going to go are you going to stay within the one and two? We just can't go much right now. We can't Well, say say they give us $200,000. Well, then there's going to be Are we still going to go with the 1%? No, we can't go with the one or 2%. It would be significantly more, right? I mean, it would be if they pass with the It would be a lot more if uh if uh my template is going to be there where I can plug in one, two, that give us like you said, we have to use it on on on other teachers. Yes. Oh, you have to use it. Yeah. On on those races, right? If they give you 200,000, it's going to be earmarked. This is strictly foract

103is like, okay, do we have to have x amount of staff and where do we need to position? Is it going to come out of local? Is it coming out of federal? And then looking at the non revenue, you know, do we need, you know, this all the softwares? What what softwares are we keeping? What have we done? What is mandated? You know what? But that 200,000 specifically that's going if they're saying this is we have to do whatever. Are we still getting money? Federal money. Yeah, we're still getting right now. We're getting as far as we know next year we're still going to get federal money, right? Yeah. And we do take So $5,000 would be more like a five seven. I mean just depending on what the salary, but it's going to be

104Oh, no. $5,000 would be more. I don't want to see somebody getting $500 and then the other one getting No, you're not allowed to do that. And honestly, it's got to depend on what they pass. As you said, I don't Well, I was going to say if they stipulate you're one to five this this I mean we got they don't know what right we don't know what we're but it's they're going to dictate. Yeah, correct. And how to split it. It's their money. It's not their money. Governor Abbott's office. I want to point out that um I gave y asked some questions about this um the facility planning committee name. I put that in there. And then the special education transfer students. Um so basically of our transfer students 9.4% are special education and then

105of our special education at the public in district students non-transfer it's 19.2%. So that's where you know if if if we didn't unfortunately if it's a high need behavioral student or a high needs medically fragile student and we can't we just can't you know it's going to take hiring another person obviously we're not we can't and then I didn't go back but I I did look at how many were staff students or children and there was eight I would venture to say that the majority of these I I didn't have the time or knowledge necessarily to do this, but I would say almost all of them probably are siblings. So, in other words, or you know, there's different scenarios. I might have started you and you weren't instead you've been with us a long time

106and now you qualify for special education, right? Someone like a dyslexic student or something like that. Or um sometimes, let's say, you know, you have a couple of siblings in the school district already and then a new one, you know, wants the number one. And I actually just had this conversation today. There's a young uh four-year-old and because he's four, he has some special needs. We're trying to figure out where they are, but he has four other siblings that are not special needs that are currently. So, it's not it's it's sometimes that makes it a little bit more complicated. Um but overall, the percentage of special education students, the transfer students is about half as many percentage wise as regularly. And again, just remember that's fed in corpus. It encompasses speech, dislike the um it's

107all of those all of that kind of stuff. This not all these kids are you know [Music] self. And then like you can see I gave you just the lengthy if you want to go into the details of what the house looks like all the details. You all have any further questions for Miss Moore or Miss Mand as far as this budget goes? So this was entirely um payroll or personnel and then mark I think it's May the 8th we will talk about non payroll and that's where we will have also in there and co explain to y'all about kind of what our kind of debt capacity is. Um, but of course, um, doesn't mean because, you know, let's say my credit card limit, I could still charge another $10,000. Doesn't mean it's your art

108with the idea. The goal is not to max it out, right? Kids think you can, right? But, you know, that's not the goal because you're again, you're trying to balance. Now, when we decide when decided to go on to applause, we're not going to use that Casey person, right? because that isn't he he's the same one that's heard us over with the tax and we're still using it and we're still I know but if we decide we have to decide by 2026 right that's the next election is 2026 and she's going to make the recommendation she's the right to go after I don't we don't we need for the bond would we for that efficiency thing no we would not use them I would use their bond There you go. And and it is Tony

109that we Yeah. No, I wouldn't be using that. That's not our No, I know I'm not trying to recall, but I'm just No, you like that was money for our teachers. I do have good news. Our technology student association went to Fort Worth. They brought we brought 19 students and I was telling um Oh, it was really funny. one of them. So, four of them qualify. There's a national competition in Nashville, Tennessee, the end of June. So, one of the young ladies because I'm my superintendent group, she approached me and she said, "I've been talking about the logistics with Miss Silas and we have we I think we have, you know, a pretty close budget now, but she told me that um that all of the requisitions are due by April 15th, this morning. I

110just don't think we can meet that deadline since we just found out this weekend and we'll extend it for you." But it was really the students were understanding about, you know, planning ahead and um so that was super cool. Four of them qualified for the Nashville in Nashville is the national that is good. Yeah. So they we all seen them and they came up to get that money. They're they're forced to be reckoned with and Noah got to go to Yeah. I don't know how he did. He said he hasn't found out his scores yet. He just doesn't want you to know yet. No, he would have told me. I don't know how he showed me the video of his little racer that drag car or something with the drag company. Yeah. Uh so um

111there there I know I know two did silver and one was a bronze winner. So there's two there's three different things. So one is the competitions themselves. So um so that's where I think two of them qualify. Then there's something there's like a leadership and service award. Um that's that was the silver. So three of them I don't how it works but they get um these different things that will qualify you for you for a service award. Then there's some kind of test that you have to take some kind of examination and two of them achieved in that examination. Yeah. I thought they were downtown and I was going to go, you know, at the they were having that skill skills USA that are a lot of I mean love and a lot of from

112up there Midland and all that man some of those pits that they made were something else. Wow. And and we have people taking um what do you call that? Uh welding. Welding. Uh either gonna graduating this year. Eight of them are going to graduate this year. Okay. But they can get into that. I'll look into it for next year because we have we're giving them that thing. We they I didn't Well, you told me they weren't there. I didn't That's a start. That's really good. But I hope that Yeah. Wellington. Yeah. All right. Okay. Close session now, right? Further questions. Yeah. We're going to move on to the agenda. Agenda item 5A, close session. Read it. Government code section 551.074 personnel matters. The evaluation, employment, reassignment, duties, discipline, dismissal of a public officer or employee,

113order to hear a complaint or charge against an officer or employee 5A to Texas government code section 551.074 the discussion regarding board self evaluation. Okay. 17. We have to go to the back. Can we stay here? Oh, we're going to the back. So, is that thing on? I don't think you It is cold in here. What?