001August 6 >> recording in progress. >> Oh, good. Um, welcome to the Wednesday, August 6, 2025 meeting of the Anor Public Art Commission. Um I am going to call um order here and the beginning of our meeting. Um Chris, did you want to roll? >> Yep. I can I can do that. Um >> here. Oh, hi Erin. >> Yeah. Hi. >> Awesome. >> Uh Commissioner Buffford. present if Michigan. >> Thank you. Council member Harrison looks like she's absent today. Uh Vice Chair Fuller >> present in uh Sea Ranch, California. >> Commissioner Katarski >> uh here in Ann Arbor. >> Thank you. Commissioner Neil >> present in Arbor. >> Thank you. Commissioner Porter will be absent today. Uh chair thiefs >> uh present in Detroit >> and commissioner where Leonard >> present in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
002>> Right. Thank you. That is a quorum. >> Well, welcome everybody. Thanks. I'm just jumping on here. Um kind of hot coming in hot here. Um so I would like to um garner a approval of the agenda uh that Erin sent out to everybody from our June 4th meeting. Do I have a motion? >> The the agenda or the minutes? the agenda first. >> I'm going was going to do the agenda first. >> So I I move the agenda be accepted as presented. >> I'll second. >> All right. We have the approval of the agenda for tonight's meeting. Excellent. Um moving on to the approval of the minutes from the June I'm sorry from the Yes. from our June meeting. Do I have a motion to approve? >> So moved. >> John, Sarah seconding. Thank
003you all. >> Are we going to vote? Mary? >> Um all in favor? >> I. >> Any any nays? Okay. Awesome. All right. So moved. Are there any um do we have any public comment? Anybody waiting? Anybody joining us tonight? >> It doesn't appear. So, >> okay. Um we're going to move. So, just a heads up you guys. Um, I have been I've had a couple of commissioners reach out that we have a that they have a hard stop at 8, including myself. So, I'm just putting that out there that we um we want to try and stay within that time frame. Um, I know we have a lot of juicy things to discuss. Um, but just keep that in mind when you're commenting or adding in. Let's just let's keep things to the point.
004Um, so we have um old business here. >> Mary, you're muted now. >> Thanks. So, I'm not sure what the action item for following up on the comprehensive plan was, but that is here listed in our old business. Um, we had a presentation from the from a member from the city that kind of we talked about how the land use plan could potentially encourage more public art. Um, has anybody given more thought to that and wanting to add to that? Can you all see my I'm sharing the agenda. Can you all see my screen? Sorry. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And um yeah, I had in my notes from the last meeting. So we yeah, we talked about as as chair thles mentioned, so what are some other kind of tools or mechanisms that the art
005commission could implement to encourage more art in the city? We talked about, you know, the one mechanism we have is the CIP process and um we brought up the idea of perhaps an ordinance as another regulatory mechanism for that. Um so we talked about potentially looking at what other cities might be doing around this or maybe what's been done in the past here at the city. Um, I didn't know if if an action item if we wanted to assign that to a committee or if if you all had kind of further ideas or discussion that you wanted to put on the table. Um, that's what I had in my notes in case it's helpful. >> Erin, uh, does the city want something from the art commission? Does they want either ideas, recommendations? What is re
006what is expected from the art commission if anything? Um, good question. Um, and yeah, Chris, you can jump in as well. Um, I think, well, I'll speak, I guess, a little bit to the CIP process. It's we've been having some internal discussion within public services. Um, you know, I think the the the kind of the recommendation um piece like which pieces are selected for recommendation like that has kind of um is more or less transparent and we're kind of having some internal discussions about then once a piece has been recommended for art, how is that how does that get implemented? And I think there's a lot of and each department does it differently. Um, so I know like the DDA does it differently, parks might do it differently. Um, so I don't know that there's
007a specific ask from the city. Um, but I think that uh we would certainly be open to recommendations. Well, this is the comprehensive plan uh land use plan and I mean I'm hearing about it uh in media and so it's it's going to change zoning. there's going to be more a denser uh city uh lower speed limits, fewer cars, that sort of thing is uh you know, more development uh um Jefferson markets and in and in and neighborhoods and things like that. So, I'm I'm assuming, and it's controversial in some areas of the town, I assume that the that the city is asking all of its commissions for their feedback on this particular plant. Is is that why this is on our agenda? and that and so and I don't know whether whether we had
008I think we made some comments at at the meeting of this presentation in terms of the C CPI process >> that uh I for one was rather um I didn't understand it that completely how the impact our body would make on that process but I think others on the commission had a better idea about it and uh that that gave me relief that you know maybe it's working and uh just fine and so um it's on our agenda to follow up with that discussion. I don't know that there's anything we need to do to follow up other than our big issue regarding land use is how the art commission can encourage more public art. um through municipal construction projects the uh the CPI CPI. So >> that's kind of my I I I would assume
009that that the discussion is over, but uh um is there something that you do want more from us to report? You know, like this is what or Christopher, you know, that this is what the art commission feedback on the um uh the uh uh the land use plan is. Is there questions about >> Yeah, if Yeah, if the decision is no further action or no further comment, I'm I'm totally fine with that. Um >> I was just following up on some notes that it seemed like some folks might have been interested in exploring what other people do around um how other cities encourage more public art um maybe in a different avenue than the CIP process. Um, but if if if we feel like the discussion is closed, I'm I'm fine with moving on. I
010just it seemed like it was a loose end, so I put it on the agenda. >> This is coming back to me and I think uh you know that was an interesting uh discussion because the presentation brought to light the idea of placemaking um in particular that that word when it comes to development. Um, and I think we were inquiring as to how we would see this comprehensive land use plan show up, maybe in CIP projects, maybe in other ways. Um, so I think what we wanted to to see was um the ways that uh all of these different projects once moved through this plan show up um in a way that we can interact with them whether that be CIP and uh like in your notes um if if we see that in another
011way like with a city ordinance um that we put together for public art. I think that's where that discussion was leading, >> right? And we had lost our seat on the design review board kind of while the comprehensive plan was being dropped. And I think that that was something that we had talked about a couple months ago is what would be a replacement for that or how can we still influence or um advise and you know so I have here Michelle Bennett who is the senior planner with the city she did she provided more information for us and you know now that we're leaning into starting this mini grant program to me it feels like that's going to be a really nice tiein to the comprehensive land use plan and maybe there will be a
012natural fit um depending on how that rolls out and could be absorbed by the same committee that oversees the new grant potentially. And Mary, you bring up a good point. I think there could be a way in which uh I know that the planning department wants to do what the uh design review board was doing. they just want to do it in house. And uh so that we could offer our expertise in regards to placemaking to the city planner that uh and maybe the city planner uh could figure out a way to formalize that that process so that when they when they get plans in that maybe somebody on the art commission sort of uh meets with the planning staff and and gives some ideas. the same way that we were able to uh on
013the design review board. So uh just transferring our expertise rather than it just falling off uh you know uh that it it actually is used not at the design review board but with the uh the planning staff. So, I can see that as being a a real useful uh way in which we could uh engage builders, engage planning staff and promote placemaking. Um, and you know, Christopher, if you want to sort of um you know, or Aaron or whoever, uh, I see that as a as as a a way of recommending something u positive. >> Um, I don't have anything to add about the land use plan. And I think we've kind of come full circle on that. I it sounded like Erin, you might have a question about after a CIP project comes to
014fruition, how it or how it comes from recommendation to fruition and the idea that each department does it a little bit differently. Um, we have not micromanaged how each department does it or how they accomplish that enhancement, but we did make recommendations about five or six years ago um about what the process should look like, different things that we think it should include um for example, it should include the public as part of the selection process um so that they are engaged with the process and that if the public is involved in a form where they're voting on it that that is the final decision or it's very clear that they're going to limit it to two and then someone else is going to decide because there was some issues with that in the past.
015But there's a document somewhere, I think it's on our website, um that kind of advises how the process should be handled, whether it's handled through the art center, whether it's handled by city staff, um whether city staff looks to us to help with it. um that that's up to the department, but it does give some recommendations on what that process might look like. >> Great. Thank you. >> And for what it's worth, staff are currently uh in the works uh to to kind of finalize that procedure and so that it's uniform across all departments. uh so so as so so we can uh so that we can facilitate public art integration into some of our capital improvement uh uh projects but at this time it it's still a working draft. So uh my hope is
016that once it's finalized uh and we have something that's more concrete we can then bring that forth to the art commission uh so that you guys can uh pro provide some feedback at a later time. But that uh that's uh that decision will be made later down the road. >> Yeah, I think we'd like to look at that sooner rather than later years so we can actually help. >> Yeah, of course. >> That process. It's great. Um >> Mary, you're muted. >> Any further discussion on the comprehensive land use plan? Um, moving into new business, I just first off wanted to welcome Chris. Um, you met a few of us um at the agenda planning meeting, but um I think Allison and Peggy are new faces to you. Um, if either of you want to
017introduce yourself to Chris, just a little background, that would be nice. Unmute. Hi, I'm Peggy Leonard. Um, I'm a retired art teacher. I've been on the commission for maybe about eight years. I lose track of that now. But, um, yeah, and live here in the community and I'm active in the art community, but anyway, welcome. >> Hi, I'm Alison Neil. Um, I have been on the commission for about nine years now. Um, and have been chair and vice chair and I'm happy to just be a commissioner now. >> Thank you. Thank you. I I'll quickly introduce myself uh to those that haven't met me. My name is Christopher Sesp. Uh um I've I've um I have some experience working in government. I first started my career working for Miami Day County, uh where I dealt
018with a lot of contracts and a lot of grant management, uh specifically going after, uh some of those federal grants for uh uh some of our park programs. Um now I'm working with the city of Ann Arbor. Previously I was working with the engineering department as a staff lean to the transportation commission. So um I have some experience uh acting as a staff leison and now I am the management assistant to the public service area administrator. Uh so I'll be taking over Venita's uh old responsibilities. Um and I'm very excited to join this commission and uh looking forward to integrating art in into our city. >> Right. Yay. Wonderful. Chris, we're so happy you're here. Chris was um integral with helping uh Treetown Murals pull all the row permits to make the heron bridge happen.
019He was very patient and it was very helpful. >> So I have an update for the new members. Uh we met as a um as a committee looking at uh some of the applications that we had. We had um seven applications, seven applicants to fill two seats on the public art commission and um three applicants rose to the top and um I reached out to two of them um Jenna Carter and John Jordan uh and I had a phone call with each of them and both are very interested in moving into the next step um which would the uh city council or mayorial appointment. I think it has to go to a city council meeting next. U maybe somebody could just outline what the next steps for them are so that I could reiterate that
020in an email to them or or maybe I stop communication at this point. I'm not sure what is the protocol for onboarding these new two commissioners. >> Yeah. So I I can speak on that. Right now, the process is for us to take a step back and cannot wait for the mayor uh to nominate uh nominate them. Once city council has uh officially voted for uh v voted them in, uh the next steps u is for them to go ahead and sign um uh some documentation uh explaining uh potential conflict of interest, how that might look like, and some of uh some of our administrative procedures with the city clerk's office. uh once the city clerk uh gives us the thumbs up uh I can go ahead and and communicate and kind of make that
021uh initial uh point point of contact and I I will also go ahead and provide um a little bit of background on the commission uh as well as the uh meeting invite and some of the logistical stuff but at this time uh we're just pending city council approval and uh once they are sworn in we we should be good to go. So, my hope is that um they'll probably depending on when uh the mayor makes its nominations, they'll likely be joining this commission in either September or uh at the latest October. >> That's great. Um, so is there what is the max number of commissioners that we can have? >> Dependent on your bylaws. Uh, so typically uh uh commissions uh write that in their bylaws. Forgive me, I'm still kind of catching up. So
022I'll rely on Aaron to uh see if that language has uh is clear anywhere. >> Um, yeah, I believe it's nine. But I can double check that really quick. And if anybody else on the commission is interested in reviewing the applications of these two candidates, uh, I'd be happy to share that out or all the all the applicants for that matter. I can share that out. Um, I guess while Erin's looking that up, um, is it are we okay to move to report from committees or should we wait? >> I I think we can move forward. >> Okay. Um, the capital improvement project work group. Any updates? That would be our CIP cohort. >> We won't have any updates until there's a new um list which won't have it till next year. We've already >>
023done the recommendations. They got recommend or they got approved and so we're kind of like done for now. >> Okay. Thank you Allison. Um communications and outreach that's Jamal, myself, Marionetta, and Sarah. non- voting Sophie. Um, any updates from communications and outreach? I don't think we have any, do we? We didn't meet. Okay. Um, fundraising. I >> Oh, >> I was going to say um Mary that there was this new RFQ that just went out >> and I was gonna I was going to post that on our Instagram to kind of help get the word out. So, the affordable housing development that's uh going up >> uh on fourth and Catherine with uh Ann Arbor Housing Commission and and Avalon, I'm on the committee that's kind of overseeing kind of what the community space inside
024the building has look like. And part of that is doing an RFQ for artists to put murals inside and kind of outside of the building. Um, so just I'm sure y'all might have seen something about it, but I'll email this group just so you have it um a link to the RFQ and then I'll post something on our Instagram about it as well. >> Thank you, Jamal. That's great. Yeah, the Dunar RFP is out and um that's very exciting. >> Yeah. We have our fundraising group and that I think encompasses the document that I sent out to commissioners earlier this morning. Uh just a draft proposal that Sarah and Allison and I have been working on for the mini grant. Um if you get a chance to review that document, it's more of a brainstorm,
025some research we've done. Um, also some questions that we have, some more general questions, uh, that could be answered by city staff, uh, hopefully. So, uh, right now the mini grant is umbrelled under the fundraising group, but I am going to propose in future meetings that we create and designate an entire group just to the mini grant. Um, and that is something that I talked with both of the new commissioners about as a potential way that they could really sink their teeth into the public art commission. Both seemed interested. So, this could be a new way to engage our new commissioners, but also um something that we'll just have a dedic dedicated group to really dive into that. I think it could be supported by people in the fundraising group like myself, Allison, and Sarah
026who are in that group right now. Um, but we were a little eager to maybe roll something out in 2025, but it's looking like 2026 makes a lot more sense. There's probably going to be um just information that we need from the city in order to really flesh this out and make it real. So Chris and Aaron, I kind of lean on you to maybe help us think through what the next steps for this could be. Um, it's something we want to unleash annually. You know, 2026 would be kind of like a pilot program, working out the kinks, you know, working with city legal, um, working with the community to get the word out, seeing what the interest is. But we have $22,000 that we can draw from and it will gain by 5,000 every
027year. So this is an exciting opportunity for the public art commission to really just lean into finally doing our own granting cycle to bring more synergy to our commission, to the city. This is the first time the city of Ann Arbor would ever have a mini granting program. I think it'll really draw attention to not only our commission but to the city as a whole um putting public art and placemaking at the forefront of community engagement. Uh so I I see this as being a win for everyone and am excited to to really work on this to see it come to fruition. So, I I submitted a document that is a draft at this point and um I think a meeting before our next city council meeting would be really helpful with a city staff
028liaison so that we could maybe hammer out some of the questions we have and um figure out um how do we move forward with this? >> Mary, I had a quick question. when you met with um the Ann Arbor community, you know what I'm talking about, the endeavor. >> Yeah, we did. We met with the Ann community foundation. Um >> Yeah. Did you ask? >> Yes. Did you ask them about the potential of communicating about this opportunity to their grantees or >> No. >> Okay. I'm just thinking about ways we're going to be able to promote it. Um given we can't necessarily spend money on promoting it, what networks are already doing grants that have people that would be interested. So since the money's there, they might be >> creative. Um M live >> I
029mean we can put it on cafe. I mean, we can we can promote it on every single channel that um >> Yeah. I mean, CF cafe, in my experience, you have to have a membership to pay to do a call for there. Um >> and I I have a membership. >> Oh, great. >> I don't I mean, I have a personal membership, but I don't know if that is something I can use through the city, but um >> you have to put out calls or to to apply for calls? >> Both. >> Oh, cool. And if and if it's a grant, uh the I can also reach out to Stamp, which is the uh the um the University of Michigan's art program, uh and we can uh request that they reach out to their staff
030and alumni body in case um this grant is can be an opportunity for upcoming artists. So that's also a channel that we can explore. Uh we've um we've also began laying the the groundwork. Uh I've requested uh from the director of the STEM program to uh expand uh we so we increased the deadline for the uh submissions for the golden paintbrush award. Um it's set to end in uh we extended it all the way to the first week of October. So I believe that's October 1st. Um and so they also reached out to their alumni and their current uh alumni u current uh uh alumni body uh to see if anyone would be interested. So yeah, >> great. >> Yes, stamps is a a great resource. Sorry. >> Um the conversation we had about the
031the funds from the community foundation funds for marketing or promotion. >> Yeah, I included that in this. It says >> can be used to purchase, install, maintain, and preserve is the language right now. And the word adding the word promote would need a variance, but that is the only way we've ever used this money because we used money from this grant to promote the >> What is the Thank you. the golden paper. >> I mean, I feel like it's it's kind of wrapped in there like how how would you be able to put out anything without being able to promote it? like how is that how is that not just implied that you would promote >> your opportunities? So, um I'm not sure if we need to go through a language variance to to work
032with this money to do what we want to do, but I will lean on city staff to define help us define that. I mean, if we're using it to purchase, install, maintain, and preserve I think it does change our role a little bit though because we've always been more of an advisory board. So now we're moving forward and actually taking more of a lead in obtaining art and putting art in the city. >> Right. >> So I think >> you think >> Change of the language. Okay. >> Would we be spending money like on advertising? Would we would we be paying uh the observer or something like that? Is that that's what you see? We could use some of this money to to uh uh professionally promote it. I mean hire somebody to promote it.
033>> Yes, I would think that that would be great. >> Or have the city have its own cafe account or I mean something right along those lines. It's >> it's facilitating that process. >> Yeah. And that's something that would continue um every time, right? Because this is supposed to be annuals. So, how do we get this out there every single year? Um we know that there are these platforms and they're paid platforms. So, are there ways that we can fund a annual membership that is in service to this um grant, >> right? This annual grant. So, how can we tie those two things together? Um, and I think there's a strong case for that being part of the purchase um, of art, even if it doesn't necessarily say promotion. >> I really like what Christopher
034has done, taken the initiative to connect with the University of Michigan penny stamps. I I I think that's huge, Christopher. Thank you so much. I I think there's a there's a great body and they have their own network, too. So just that effort I think can really get the word out to a creative community. Um uh but I think cafe is important as well. Uh I don't you know I I trust the judgment. You guys are you know you you're into it. I'm just sitting on the sidelines and and listening to it. But I think that the the conduit to penny stamps to me is big. Uh cafe is big. you know, buying an ad in the observer. I don't know, you know, uh, but >> they are expensive. >> Right. Right. >> Oh my
035gosh. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's very >> Well, it's interesting to note that two years ago when we did the golden paintbrush, I think we bought an ad in the observer, didn't we, Sarah? >> Do you remember that? This year we decided not to do that. We were kind of advised by our city somebody within the city that we could use social media and we didn't need to do the observer but yet we don't have as many entries. So, I don't know if it was the way we advertised or just that maybe people aren't as engaged as they were, but I don't know. How you get the word out is always an interesting decision, you know? I mean, it can be even us promoting it. I need to promote it. >> Um, definitely, you know, all
036of us using our social media to promote it. Well, we were really wanting to keep the eligibility of this mini grant, you know, very flexible to include youth and emerging artists. And so I do think the stamps connect will be enormous. Um especially the Anna public schools, you know, always looking for grant money to do projects with youth and youth wanting to be leaders um to run projects. So I am immensely excited about involving a more emerging artist population in this mini grant. You know that the eligibility really is flexible to include a lot of demographics and >> circle circle back to your question whether uh uh promoting should be included with the Ann Arbor Foundation. I would say the more options we have the better the more flexible we have you know uh no
037matter what we spend it for as long as we have it available to so myself I would suggest that we need move forward with whatever we need to do to authorize the uh foundation uh so that we wouldn't be hamstrung by using these funds in case we wanted to buy an ad in the observer >> so So, I think definitely if we could get there, it it would have to go to the foundations board to change the language. And so, if we wanted to do that, we could. I don't think we should delay going forward with our grant process to do that. I think that should be something we're doing on the back end, you know, because it makes it easier for us to use the funds for what we want to do. But I
038think we've got, like Mary said and Chris, we've got lots of good avenues for promoting it. Ideally, we'll use some of the funds, but if we can't the first time around while we're changing that language, um I think we can push forward. >> Sounds good. >> Great. Well, um Chris, maybe I could catch a meeting with you and Sarah and Allison. We could um just tackle some of the partnership with the city on this and what we might need to be looking at um if you're willing um in the next two, three weeks. That would be excellent. And then >> I can schedule something. >> Great. Thank you. Um Chris, do you prefer Christopher or Chris? >> Uh Chris is if everything is good, Christopher. If you guys are upset at me, we can save
039that for that. >> Okay. Or or your middle name too. Christopher. >> Yeah. >> Chris, moving forward. Um well, we heard from nominations. That was our report on the new members. Um any updates from special projects? I guess that would include the golden paintbrush and the extension there is great October. So what can we do as a commission to really get the word out now that we have this extension and I will make a point to um use my own social media to do that. >> Me too. If you give me the media, give me the stuff, I'll post it. >> Okay. >> Me too. Yeah, me as well. Chris, what do you have that we that you could send to them or? >> Yeah. Um, I can when social media >> Robert was the
040one that put it together. Robert, remember? >> Okay. Uh, yeah. No. Uh, we can um I can work with Robert to see what the the the city can uh create. off the top of my head, maybe we can create some form of um a standardized post that everyone can upload. Uh something easy that gives general information such as what the paint golden paintbrush is, where they can apply for it, and and the deadline. Um but yeah, I can uh I'll definitely make a note to touch point with uh with Robert. He's our communication specialist. Uh, so >> Chris, ideally, ideally, Robert has po has posted it to Facebook and you're sending us the link of it being already posted and we're sharing that post. >> Okay. >> Because I I I don't want us just
041doing the outreach. I want the city posting it and us sharing. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, of course. >> Um Sophie and I worked with him and he has it and he has sent it out. So, we just need to get it and then send it to the members on the commission. >> Yeah. So maybe it's already living out there already and we just need that link to reshare it. >> But I haven't seen it either. And then the other thing on special projects that I talked about last time we met and I did meet with Jack, I believe it's Jackie Bodri, the um election, what is her title? Election >> Clerk. Thank you. um about some of our projects um using those as stickers for I voted and she said they were already working on
042for the next election using the city flag design as a sticker. So although there may not be a November election I heard that from her so they're still waiting on that but that is something that they're interested in doing. they're going to use the flag design and then if we have images or things from our projects like I were think thinking spe um the golden paintbrush she said they would be more than uh willing to and interested in using those on I voted stickers moving forward. So >> that just brought to mind and this is like totally off um subject but I it made me think of the um manhole covers because those would be great on stickers. Um, but the third design is already being implemented and so I wondered if they were going
043to do it again, if they were going to reuse the three designs to print more manhole covers. Um, if there was a plan for that, if we could get some sort of update on that project, that would be awesome. >> You want Chris to look that up or you is do you want it to be part of our special projects group? What's your question? Uh, I guess I would was looking to Chris or Aaron to follow up with >> city. Yeah, >> city on that. >> I would be in favor of another uh contest, get some new designs out there. They I think they were ordering a hundred every two years manhole covers. Um, and uh, so um, and the foundry was willing to change the design free of charge. didn't cost the city a
044a cent. So, all it would cost is is the the competition. And uh I don't know if we could do that in-house within the in the art commission or I think before we paid uh the the city paid the uh uh art center I don't know two or $3,000 to handle that which would be fine with me. Um, but I think it's I think it's good and uh you know, we've got all these manhole covers and maybe the next time we can track them and we can literally put them kind of on a map. We've got, you know, a bunch of somebody's art all over the city and we haven't really followed through and knowing where they're at. But, um, it's a great program and and I'd love to see more art, more competition, um,
045more more attention to it. Good idea, Peggy or Allison. I'm sorry. That was >> Allison. Yeah, >> it was. Any other comments from committees? I um I hope that folks will take some time to meet with their committees over the next month. It's the one way we really move things forward um so that our actual meetings together are very juicy like tonight >> and condense quick. Um Erin, do you have any reports? Any report from staff, city staff here? >> I think our big update was uh that Chris will be your new staff leaison. >> Um >> yeah, and then I also wanted to mention that the murals that bridge resolution was passed by city council back in um July 21st, I believe. >> Fantastic. Yeah, and I know y'all, you and Chris maybe met
046with some folks about that project recently. Hopefully that went well. But um those are my two two stacking updates. I don't know, Chris, feel free to add if you have any updates as well. >> Um yeah, no, that's uh pretty much covers it. Uh like Erin said, we Mary and I did meet with uh Warco to uh discuss some of uh some of the uh project uh logistics and how um what our vision is for the mural. Um so we're still waiting uh to hear back from them at this time. Uh but it looks like the the ball is rolling. So hopefully um everything is aligned and we'll have a timeline for this project uh in the upcoming months give or take. >> Yes. Um I have been given the green light from Railpros and
047Watco. Um they allowed us to submit an official application for site access. So, um, it was going to have a price tag of $2,600, which I hemmed and hot about, and they waved. So, um, that's exciting. Have you ever heard of an application being that expensive? >> Like, are you kidding me? Um, yeah, don't get me started. So, we're Yeah, that this is ongoing. The design will be probably ready to share with the commission uh at the at the next meeting. >> Cool. >> Wonderful. Anything that we missed? Any exciting art events coming up? Any just cool things that folks want to share with other commissioners or the world since the world is watching? We have so many fans watching us right now. >> I know we've said it before, but I want to say
048again, thank you so much, Aaron, for everything that you've done over these past months and and a big welcome to Chris. We're looking forward to working with you and we had a great time working with you, Erin. Thank you so much for your hard work and expertise. Much appreciated. >> Thank you. >> I second that. >> Yep. >> Thank you. Thank you, Erin. >> Jamal, where are you DJing tonight? >> Mash and Ipsy. Mash Ipsy Lenny. >> Okay, >> cool. >> Good to know. >> Okay, sounds like we did it. 7:53 gang. >> Yeah. Um, do I have a motion to adjourn tonight's >> amazing meeting? Second, >> John moved. John is moved. >> Second. >> All right. >> All those in favor? I >> I I >> have a great evening, everyone. I look
049forward to seeing you. Um, our next meeting, can someone just drop that date real quick so it's in our brains? >> Uh, that should be September 3rd. >> Okay. Okay. >> September 3rd. All right. Sounds good.