001Uh, good evening. I'd like to call to order the Coupeville School District Board of Directors special meeting for Tuesday, October 14th, 2025. Their adoption of the agenda. >> Move to adopt the agenda as presented. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded to adopt the agenda as presented. All those in favor? I. >> All those opposed? Motion carries. and we'll jump right into our topic this evening which is uh around our levy and we'll start our meeting with a report from our superintendent. >> All right. So, just a reminder, some of this um we saw at our last meeting and um I've added um numbers into this and really want to ensure that if you have questions um ask me along the way and I'll stop and and answer those questions. So, as you know,
002we're looking at a um community levy and we're going to be um looking at two replacement levies, one being a capital technology levy and the other being an EPNL levy. Um the date in which um this will be on the ballot is February 10th of 2026. Um, as we look at levy replacements, we look at what our strategic plan and what our community expectations were around their priorities. Um, as we are um, looking at our budget and looking at where our money is going as a whole. And um, our pillars are a great indication of what our community says are priorities and those priorities um, really support um, what the levy dollars go towards. um and what the state aortionment does not cover and the levy dollars um fill the gaps on. So those those
003five pillars empa empowering um students, ensuring excellent instruction, promoting student and staff well-being, family um connecting with family in the community, and then finally managing our resources effectively. All of those pillars, like I said, are pieces of our strategic plan that the levies have to to support. And we'll go into more detail as I go here. Um before we do that, I want to go through the levy timeline and an overview. Um so we're looking at ensuring that we obtain OSPI approval to run the levy. We do that um before the October 30th, which is our our deadline and and when we would um ensure we would be doing that. So that's why we're having the special meeting so that we can get authorization to move forward with that OSBI approval. Once they've done that,
004we consider um we have the adoption of the resolution. um honor before that October 30th, which our proposal is um tonight. That would be looking at um us moving forward and then writing up that resolution so that can be adopted on October 30th. From there, um we continue to look for um a for and against committee. Um at the bottom, I put if you know anyone for the for or against committee, um reaching out to myself um via email would be nice. um those are people that could write um for the levy in the voter pamphlet and those who um we feel could that we um elicit to write against in that voter pamphlet. So I'm looking for um members who would like to do that. Right now I do have one um but I'm
005looking for more in that. um we submit to the county um prior to December 12th and it's highly encouraged that go um prior because there's a lot of paperwork that we need to ensure is done and done on time and then finally our election date is on of 2026. It says 256. So, Levy, um just a re a review, um for everybody, property taxes, um they fund educational needs that the state does not cover or pick up where that aortionment leads off. So, these can be daily operational costs, but we're going to go into more detail of what our um levy dollars specifically go for. Um revenues collected in in a school. um revenues are collected on a calendar year, but on a during a school we're we're budgeting and we're going through our fiscal
006year, which is split into two um different calendar years. Um also with levies, we um are looking at a four-year cycle for us, but levies can be um less than four years if you'd like to do that. um the current cycle with our current levy that um will expire um ends with the 2026 um year. So the next cycle would begin in 2027 which is halfway through our 2627 school year when we would be collecting on these funds. And then um local levies and and local funds represent 16% of our district revenue. that varies a little bit from different districts and most the time you'll see that smaller in a percentage, but we have a huge local um support that really um beefs up our percentage number because we have a lot of organizations and
007um boosters and things like that that support what we're doing here in Kville. On the next um one are recent levy measures just going in the past. This is going over um two different years um two different colle I'm sorry cycles and those collection cycles. I apologize that the yellow is not showing up on for the board here, but um it's brighter on the actual screen. But in that 2018 um we went out for an EPO and tech levy and we passed um those initiatives at um 61 almost 62% pass rate. And then also in the 2022 which is the current levy that will be expiring um we passed with a 54.31 pass rate. um we need 50 um% plus one vote to pass a levy in the state of Washington. So I I was
008asked last time to add this slide and I appreciate this because this kind of compares it to different districts. Um I took the different districts kind of in our area. Um the first column after the districts talks about the assessed values and the assessed values are where we um look at our rates that we collect from um our levies. And it's um the thousand dollar per um per uh pupil for our collection rate. But all of that also is based on assessed values. And you can see in these columns the assessed values um very because these are larger districts and smaller districts but also the assessed values of those homes are different. So you're going to you're going to see I didn't compare this one to likeiz districts but more in our area. Um so
009those are the assessed values. Um this third column is talking whether they have a bond that they're that they have on their um on their um colle collection or taxes. Um whether they have an EPNO and whether they have the capital projects tax tech levy. As you can see some districts have a variation of multiple. Um Oak Harbor had during this time just the one um which was a $186 um collection rate for their bond, but they have recently passed um um other levies which would be different going into this fiscal year. We just don't know this one yet. Um so looking at that when we look at comparables down off to the side or to the total is going from the highest collection um down to the lowest collection. And you can see coupons
010um at the lower end of collection um this collection year of 80 cents per 1,000 assessed value. Questions on that because I know this one's a newer slide. >> Is that Do you happen to know if that is um estimated what was on the ballot or if that's actual? >> That's estimated. So always that's an estimation. Um, everybody's tax bill is going to be different based on the assessed value of their home. And so based on the assessed value of their home is where they're going to fall, but also based on the assessed values from the county that varies what the actual collection is. It's different. So this is my understanding. It's different and a lot of people try to compare it to non-schools, but when non-schools um run a levy, they're not running for
011a particular amount. they get it no matter what. Whereas schools, they run it for the amount and that's all they can collect. So, let's just say we ran it, but our assess values went up. We wouldn't be able to collect over the amount that we asked for. >> So, I appreciate that you included this and I also like it that you broke it out by the various types of pets, you know, bond or EPO or Apple products. That's pretty significant, >> right? And you look at like South Whidby, our neighboring district, who's collecting a bond, an EPO levy, and a capital projects levy, but their assessed values are almost $8 million, which is double ours. And so their rate is going to be lower, but their collection is still quite high because it's for a
012thousand of 8 million instead of a thousand of 4 million. So I actually answered my own question because I realized the numbers were up there. Um it looks like actual collection based on the amount because like you said, it's a fixed amount we can collect no matter how much assessed values change, >> right? Um, it's actually closer to 66 cents. >> Okay. So, >> per it looks >> Oh, per EPO or for total? >> Um, oh, that's right. That's not for total. >> Yeah. >> So, it might be a little higher than that. >> Okay. >> And this is 2025. So, this is the I apologize. This is the actual vote reflected in 2025. I did not do the estimate to put up here for 2026 because I wasn't sure on how much it would
013go down even though we know it's going to go down a little bit. >> I know Carver doesn't have a levy. >> They do now, but as of this one they did they did not. They had a double failure, >> but they label it as a levy on the tax thing. I'm just going by my mother's house. But >> from what we got from Ryan, this came off of what he gave us. And so I will double check. >> Well, it was I didn't calculate. It was $186. >> That's what it was saying. It was just it's not labeled as a bond, but they mislabeled it all the time. >> Yeah, ours was actually mislabeled. Um the 12 cents was put in bond. So that very well could be um that it's mislabeled. You might
014be right on that, but I went off of what we got from Sandler. >> Okay, on the next one, um you've seen this one before, but this breaks down Coupeville from 2016 to current with 2025. And um in light gray is showing the EPOn levy over the years. Um in dark gray is the tech levy over the years. capital levies in red. So you can see there's some years in between that we did not collect on a capital levy. We did two 2016 to 18 and then 23 24. Um and then um the bond which we no longer have uh dropped off in 2022. So you can kind of see we're back in 2016 we were collecting at $3.13 and we've gone down to the 80s. Um with expected this collection year will will drop
015even more. So we'll be below that 80 cents in 2026. I think the key there is that, you know, we have we have our goal hasn't been keep the tax rate the same and to just continue collecting from our community without a in a clear intent of what we wanted to do with funding. And so we didn't let you know capital projects levies go by so that we have a lower tax rate right now so that we can prepare for a a bond plan in the future. So, I do like that slide in that regard. >> Yeah, I I think it it tells the story of of, you know, why we want to ensure that we're not just um collecting without having a plan for it. And I'm excited about the facility task force for
016that reason to see what our needs are for the future. Well, and it helps you to know that um when we get done with that force task force, I mean, we're not going to be out of the realm of what's reusable, >> right? >> So, on the next slide, and you've seen this before, just what are the things that are, you know, levy dollars go for? And obviously, we we go for sports. Our our board reps there front and center. Um, >> you look wonderful. Uh, no. I look like something. >> Um, you know, but a big portion goes to our athletics and, you know, music programs. Um, staffing is a huge part of our levy collection. The aortionment or um the the dollars that we are provided from the state, it goes for any
017additional staffing that we need. So um additional health clerks, nursing staff, support staff, but also our CTE programs and additional teachers. Um it it takes from what the state gives us and it fills the gap to what we actually pay for um our staffing um schoolwide, districtwide. So all of those things go in. Um I did put curriculum at the bottom. It also helps fill the gap with, you know, ensuring that we have guaranteed viable curriculum for our students. And um those are things that that we want to ensure our kids have for the future. I put the music on there. Um but really it also represents, you know, band and being able to have band back in our schools would be really important along with CTE. So um I like the collection of pictures
018and I hope in the future we'll continue to add what we have currently um into these pictures. When we look at the importance of levy funding, um we've talked about this before. You know, the first bucket there is what we get in state funding. State aortionment is about 77% of our um budget. Um in federal funds here in Kville, we we fluctuate from six to 7% in federal funding depending um on the year, but mostly it's around 7% of our funding comes from federal funds. And that will be title um that will be any of our um title one title 1D we have seen some of that decrease and we've lost some of that revenue but it has not for us include bill and it's as as substantial as some other areas so but we
019are seeing less funding from the federal um 16% here in um the comes from local and local levy funding. I I put local and local levy money because we have a a large portion here um from our community. Our local community provides um quite a bit to our budget um more so than when I look at surrounding districts. We we have a a lot of support in this community and um we're very appreciative. I was kind of comparing it to other um districts and what um they tend to see in this bucket and somewhere, you know, typically around 12%. when we're looking at um how much our community provides for such a small community, we do a really nice job of of supporting our kids. So, um that local and local levy funding is critical
020um for us to to manage um in a I'll say a $20 million budget, 16% of that is a huge portion and our money is important. The last part of that, sorry will um just is, you know, how all of this goes to again that strategic plan and how we want to be able to to do all of those five pillars and ensure that our students are successful here in food bill. Um so how are we doing that? Um this is just a repeat of what I've talked about before um with levy uses. This is a general this is what levies support. They support um academics, athletics, the arts. Um but here in Coupeville, um we also up at the top support materials. We have additional staff we support with our levy dollars. We put
021um levy dollars towards safety. Um a lot of our tech levy dollars go for technology and some of our safety and security. Um we also um provide support for the arts. We do have music and art um in our our school, but again, we don't have some programs that we'd like to see um with this future levy. Um again, I'm repeating myself, but curriculum, sports, um supplies, and then also operating costs. Um down at the bottom is what we would like to see. Um with with our levy dollars, we'd like to see increased support. Um we feel very thin um with our staffing right now. um and our class size numbers are um increasing and keeping up um would require us to look at our levy and ensure that we're we're able to continue to
022support. We know since um COVID an increase in mental health, social emotional support is needed. It continues to be a need. It continues to be uh an increased indicator on level of support needed um on our health and youth survey and Island County um is aware that we need to put be putting more and more dollars towards that. This levy would help um support that as well and help increase some of those um supports that we need. And then again, um even though we have additional staff at the top, we would like to increase staff um with our levy, bring on um things like band, additional CTE, um music at the at the elementary or art, um those type of programs that um I feel our our young students still need and um all the
023way that to have a comprehensive K12 program. Um, we would also like to look at ensuring that we bring our coaches to a competitive um, wage rate when we look at comparing districts that are below that um, competitive rate. Um, we'd like to bring back band. I want to put that really big because that's a a key component and something that our community is um, really wanting to see come back. Um, as I've come in as a superintendent, that guaranteed and viable curriculum, we need to have beyond curriculum cycles and really be looking at our state standards to increase what our kids have access to in our curriculum and and beyond cycles to where we're ensuring that all students are have access to that. Again, increase safety and security. Even though we have it in
024our tech levy, we we have additional needs for our safety and security here. um provides um also um support staff for students success. Um we could use more more support as mental health and social emotional needs increase um the need for more staff um becomes evident and um this year's unlike like you know not different than any other year. We're we're seeing that already in this school year. And then um I've already said it, but bringing back more of those elective offers off offerings including CTE and pathways for our students to graduate in um the areas that they want to have for their future. Those are what is on the ballot? Any questions on this slide? So on this slide, this is a a new slide that I added um on here. Um we what
025I put on here was um what the tech levy um for what we would propose for um capitalizing on our tech levy and then three rows down what we're looking at for our tax amount for the EPLO levy. So, as we know in the 2526 um school year, we had a flat rate um from our current levy of collection for our tech technology of 500,000 and 2.7 million for our 8.0. Um that was costing or that would cost our taxpayers um approximately the 80 cents in the 25 school year and 68 cents in this 26 school year approximately. Um that's what we're currently collecting on and our proposal um going from 27 2027 to 2030 would to be um instead of doing a flat rate to increase with what the projected um increase in >>
026inflation would be. And so there's a the tool on OSPI that shows those projected inflation rates. And so we projected that based on those inflation rates. Um and in looking at that um the tech levy tech levy we kept it as um director Smith had proposed um previously of going from 600,000 um in the first year up to um 675,000 in the 2030 school year. You can see the collection rates um stay pretty um flat. they do they do decrease over those years. Um but remember that's based on what they're looking at as the proposed um assessed value. So they're looking at the assessed value of homes going up. So that's why you see the decrease in collection rate over those times even though there's an increase in portion. Um and then when you look
027at the EPO levy um in 2027 we're looking at a 3 a $9 million collection up to a $4.7 million collection in the 2030 um school year. This is um based on again the inflation and also the um looking at the assessed values. So when you look at the the rates, they would be again going down in collection based on those assessed values. And then at the bottom, I total the um capital tech levy and the EPLO levy for the totals down there. And for me, I I like that director Merlin kind of equated it to what does that mean on my tax bill. So on the next slide, I kind of put that into what does that mean for um your house or for um you know, different levels or of each home, right?
028So, in 2026, um a tax rate per thousand, if we were collecting, um 68 cents per thousand, if you owned a home, um around $350,000, your collection rate per year would be $238. It's um and this is what we currently are at all the way up to the $750,000 home which is about $510 um dollars per year of collection for our district. the proposal. Um, if we look at 2027, would be going from a a tax rate of approximately 68 cents to 90, which would bring up the $350,000 home from $238 a year to $315 a year. Um, and then the $750,000 home from $510 a year to $675 a year. When you look at the $500,000 home, this it's difference in the collection rate is about a hundred. We're asking about $110 more dollars
029a year for that that home in 2025. Are the calculations for each of the year that you're using here assuming the maximum amount based on the projected enrollment and um and the current uh limits on it. So, it's as much as we could collect. >> Correct. And if we if we were to, let's just say enrollment was down or the assessed values weren't weren't quite correct, they we can't collect more than what we >> right. >> And if it's and if we can't um if we pass too much, we we get that we roll it back. So, that's that's in consideration with if if we collect too much, it's going to be rolled back. I'm asking because I'm going to tell you that I wish we could have more, but this is all we can
030get. I just want to make sure that that's it. >> Yeah. The only way that I could have rolled this up is if I would have projected that inflation was higher than what the OSPI um rate was or if I were to say the assessed values were different and I could have tweaked those in the tool. I went with what the tool was. However, I was more conservative on our um enrollment because the tool in OSPI was going based on last year's number and we we dropped enrollment this year. So, I put in a more conservative enrollment amount to get to this amount because um I wasn't as aggressive with what OSP was putting in there. >> I am a little worried that maybe it wasn't quite conservative enough. Um I'm pretty sure that for
0312027 collection they'll be looking at our 2526 school year. >> Yeah. >> So >> they will be and that's that's why I put I actually put it down to what our numbers are now. I put 905 for this to get this number >> thought this no this number is 960 >> based on what >> the previous >> if you take the number and divide it by 495 you get 965 like it's over there on the right side of that uh I guess the slide before this one >> okay I let me pull it up because I have been numbered here I have it based on nine 925 is what I got the number based off of. >> Go to the slide before this one. >> There 965. That's what I calculated it to. >> I
032had a question about the number. It says that 2.7 not does that mean that we would need that by the end of this year or next year? >> This year average for this year. >> I go by the year before. >> How does it change? We have a little more. >> We just roll it back. So if we're collecting too much then they we don't collect it and we just they call it a roll back. So they they don't give it to us. >> Okay. >> So from what I'm understanding, we're given based on how much we put in the levy that's proposed in the ballot. That amount is based off of how many students we have. So having too few students mean that we don't get the money that come from those students that
033we would estimate. >> Yeah. Exactly. Great questions. >> So, >> did we answer the question? What what is our enrollment that we actually report? Because you know enrollment can be with or without open or running start or so what number >> does OSI did 975 >> I did 975 but that's not with our basic ed numbers that's with open and everything in there >> and all that which I don't have the number right now 905 is what we have right now in basic ed plus AL and and those pieces >> 927 >> yeah so I put in 975 in that number. But remember that collection we we also are looking at our collection year being done at the end of the middle of next year. So part of this is we're in between those those
034years as well. So um if we want to change a number, we can change the number. Um but either way, we still get the roll back. I'm just saying we should start with what we really think the enrollment is going to be this year because it doesn't do us any good to ask for more money than we can get. >> You mean for 2027? >> Well, >> it's based on >> Well, this this year will determine this this school year 2526 will determine the student number that they'll use for the 27 collection. Mhm. >> So if we think we're going to have to use 975 instead of 965 >> OSPI had 1,022 >> right >> and I put in 975. >> Okay. So they check I mean it has to go to them for approval
035right or they gonna they don't care whatever we think it's going to >> Dan Dan said 975 was good. I worked with them on Friday on this. >> Okay. um because I didn't have the numbers in front of me of what our projection numbers are going to be. Um but we could go more conservative if we want to. But it would also be a roll back. They'll allow us to go that high. It's just going to be a roll back if we don't get that. The 2030 number >> 2030 number I put enrollment at 997 and it's 4.7 >> 4.725. >> Well, it was just a bigger jump than the other year. I'm just curious. Well, and I was looking at why and so part of that was the assessed values and that's something I
036didn't touch and Dan didn't say to touch because it's based on a calculation that they come up with and he said it doesn't if if it doesn't come up to that there's always you know you don't have to collect but they have our assessed values going from four um the 4.7 to 6.6 by 2030. But that that doesn't affect our the amount we collect. >> It affects the rate. >> Well, it affects the rate. I'm looking at the the 4,725,000 in 2030 being a bigger jump over 2029 than say 2029 was over 20. >> Yeah, it's 7 and a half% instead of 5%. That really doesn't have anything to do with if assessed value could go up or down. >> I understand that. I just I plugged in this tool. I >> This is what
037>> But our max per does it does that does matter. >> The max per pupil does matter. That's correct. >> Yeah. So >> So >> um >> what is the question on the tool because I I want to look at the tool to be able to say what I don't I don't know if you're asking >> well well I I guess there's part of this philosophical. Do we think there's going to be a bigger jump in our needs between 2030 and 2029 than we are in the previous three years? >> I mean, that's this would be a question I would ask taxpayers. Why is there a bigger jump in 2030 than there was in the other years? >> If there's a bigger boy, I don't even think it's much. I mean, the whole increase I
038I wish we were going for more. Um, but if this is what the the lid is, that's all we can do. But yeah, two, three, four, >> they have it at 2 and a half% on on the IPD increased, but I don't know exact there's so many things on that tool that they >> there are consideration. >> I just you actually change the per pupil and you go over and it's at 47. That's why we stopped there. >> But it's all calculated on these rates. the CPI for examp >> well >> I know that >> if the if the thing is we're going for the most we can get every year I I think I can I'm going to read you back I think I can explain that in 2030 you know the legislature passed
039this this boost to $500 a student this last legislature and that's reflected in what we can collect here and and they said it will go up by a certain percentage every year and in 2030 everybody goes to the same a big number a number and I think that's why in 2030 even with your >> when you were looking at the tool did you see that reflected in the tool though because I'm not seeing the increase reflected it might be behind the scenes I don't >> is I'm not looking at is it have this per student >> the max per pupil >> it goes from 454 to 4739 which is just a 5% increase. >> So it's just 5% 30 30 >> I mean it that's where I just >> comes down to these estimates of
040what our enrollment projection is and that's just our best guess. Enrollment is going to increase in future years. Rebound and increase would be the >> the presumption here, >> right? >> I mean I it gives you gives you room in the future. It's either going to go to the 46% increase now, right? So it's more defending that than it is for me in the future. it looks bigger, but in reality, we've had a inflation rate that's gone from 9% to 3% to flat over the last 10 years. >> Well, one of the things that I wanted to point out, and I'm not obviously check, I'm not an expert. This is my first attempt at this. I'm um the the part that probably stood out to me the most is because is we didn't account for
041inflation in our last levy. And so if we don't go out for max now, we're not gonna I mean, we're not keeping up with what we already um didn't go for last time, which was keeping up with inflation. And that that's the part where it really hit me when I was putting these numbers together of we didn't take into consideration any of that. We didn't know, but also we didn't go up at all. um based on what we kind of should know around inflation that that we just happen to have huge inflation over the past five years. >> Yeah. If you adjust our 27 to 2025 standards, it's 33. So we're we're going up 20%. >> So I think that >> so if you >> that tells the story that we are underfunded. >> So
0422.7 was enough when it was approved. Yeah, it's actually not enough by about >> Yeah. So, we're it's it's a $700,000 jump right now saying we incremental with the with the comp changes we know have happened in the district that we're funding. >> Would it be cleaner to put the tax amounts as like a more uh understandable number to the general public? You know, like >> mean more rounded. >> Yes. Yes. Like to put like a 3.9 million, you know, a 4.2 like would it be would it be more clean to have the increase? >> I think I am personally enough of a details person that >> you prefer match the tool. >> It's the tool. Exactly. because that way we can explain it >> right >> as saying like we didn't just pull this
043number out of nowhere. It's this and it's this. >> Yeah. >> Um and you know some of those underlying assumptions we also then have to explain and defend but it's a little different for me personally than the rounding. >> Yeah. >> I guess on the flip side there's the question of like No, our students deserve it. I was looking at our board goals. We need to work together with superintendent to create conditions districtwide, which means not just keeping up with what has been barely enough. We've got to find some way to >> I think we we were passing we have been passing levies historically to beat barely enough. >> Yeah. And then it got to be not enough, >> especially when inflation. >> It's time to say we need enough. >> So, and as far
044as my thing about 2030, I guess what I'm hearing is actually we're thinking that's to make sure that if we do have enrollment increase, we'll have enough. If we don't have the enrollment increase, we won't be collecting it. So, >> that's the I can explain that. I think so. Can the roll back is that still collected and just sits there or is that not collected? >> It's not collected. >> That's like why they use the last year's number. So right now for the for the levy of next year >> variable thing trying to figure out right so they >> do we have to tell them our rolling every year? >> Yeah. I mean it's there what is what number do we use what number do we use now? Whatever that number is, that's the number
045we should be using when we're thinking about >> Yeah. that we P223. >> Yeah. >> Reports are all out there. Yeah. >> But since PT223 averages over the whole year, like what we have right now for September is not going to give us any kind of a clue for this, >> right? You can't really project. That's what we're working on. Well, and part of that that is um there's certain areas right now that we're we always start low and increase over time like said um and other numbers that we're hoping we can increase that have just dropped right now. Um and then other numbers that stay stagnant. So, we know we're going to be down this year, but after we kind of get a couple more months in, >> well, I'm even looking at like
046running start is currently listed at zero because no students go to school. >> Yeah. >> Or in August >> and our workshop on Thursday, we do have the numbers we'll be looking at for and they're not pretty. >> I have a question. How does running start affect the number considered for enrollment? Do students that are like old running start still count as Google students for the levy or fund? >> So for the levy for the taxpayers if if their parents own a home they're taxed or they're in this district but are the students counted for the numbers of students that we get there partially. So partially if they're running start student part of their portion it goes to the school in which they're enrolled in and part of it goes to us. >> But I
047think Jordan is asking this number that we have to give to OSBI. >> Oh got it. >> Do how to running start students fit in that number if we have 900 here and 20 at scadget. Are we 900 or we 920? I think that's the question. >> Well it's 900 and some it's not even 920. It's a partial >> or is it like >> we're going to show you on Thursday because that we have the numbers now. So I wish I would have brought it on Thursday. >> Yeah. >> Workshop will not be but you'll have the materials and get them sent to you. >> Yeah. So it's partially >> Yeah. >> Sorry. It's okay. Um, so the the remaining slides, go ahead and go to this. I already explained that one. This one's just
048um a repeat from before. What's on your tax statement? Um, a lot of people are confused because there's two things on this tax statement. The the top one is school district 204. That is that's Cookville and that's enrichment. And that's locally controlled. This is our levy and and what we've been talking about tonight. Whereas the second one which is called state school and state school part two is state controlled and allocated for basic education. The state themselves distribute where those dollars go. We do not have control where those dollars go. That is not part of our aortionment for our district. And a lot of times because it says state school and state school part two, people assume that's group and it's not. So those are two different pieces that you'll see on your on your
049um statement. The next one's just a repeat of our timeline where we're at right now. Um um voting by February. And then the last one is a um just a reminder of what people can do, sharing factual information. Anyone can go on our website and we have a levy portion on that um that's going to show all of the information as we're going through um about the levy and it's going to state facts and where people can get the facts about our levies. um asking questions is really important. Um and then just don't forget to vote in February. That's those are the slides. Any questions? >> Go ahead. >> You know, you get one one crack at getting an increase. I mean to 2027 that's it. I mean the rest I would say would be
050absorbed by inflation and whatever. And I don't want it to necessarily be for public information, but I'd sure like to have a a sense of what you think you can achieve with that increase. Um, how many staff members or how many how much increase for Mox or whatever. So that we not necessarily do we have to say that that's where it's going to go right now, but just a sense of how much that is. I mean, it's not that much. And I don't want to over uh commit to what what we you know whether we can have a music teacher or whether we can have more specialists and things. There's not it's not that much money, right? I mean every teacher will cost you over $100,000. So you get 10 million. >> Oh man, you
051wouldn't want to spend it all on that. And I don't know, you know, like I say, I don't I want to go for the maximum amount we can and according to what how you've done this that that's what it looks like to me. So, I'm okay with that. I wish it was more. Um, and then I just would like to have some sense of what the reality would be if we can achieve this money. And I don't even know if we can, but it's probably the best picture we have, >> which I think is part of that budget planning for, you know, the years to come. And I think that that this all ties into budget planning and trying to start that earlier and know what we might have and what changes would be in
052our future and align with our plans, you know, strategic plans. >> I just don't want to be overly um I don't want to be promising more than we can do. It's not that much. 1.2 is an increase and that's what that's what you got the first correct to make things right. >> Well, we got to remember also we the first year we're collecting half collection which is the year that we're you know looking at what can we afford. >> I'm not arguing against what you're proposing. I >> I wish it could be more but >> I'm just concerned that that it's not going to be as much as >> I was hoping our enrollment would have come in stronger. >> Yeah. It's disappointing that this is the year we dropped the one time we dropped.
053So >> again, it's a chicken argument though that we build it, they will come. >> Yeah. >> You know, we >> we have so many things that we are >> capable of offering. It's going to keep our students here and keep serving them really, really well. >> And families will see that as soon as we can put it in place, which isn't until we have the money. and the more reason to use the most amount of students that we can even if if we don't get them at least we have capacity if they do show >> right I think also we we needed what we can get because it's also a buffer if the state doesn't come through because >> you know this this bianium that we're in the legislature last they set their budget
054And uh their latest projection is for this this bianium the revenue is going to be $412 million less than what they thought they were going to get. So with this short session coming up I think people are holding their breath as far as what the state's going to do about you know their support for education. >> Well and also 1.1 million of our dollars come from federal >> Yeah. who are very uncertain like you know I I look at the weekly um announcements from Reichd Doll and you know there's a lot of uncertainty there as well. So yeah, I I think it, you know, this helps support where we can um >> what it may mean is the Nancy thing. We can't overpromise here because it may mean we need to have some of this
055money >> to just keep doing what we're doing, >> right? >> Rather than being able to to add stuff and I think that that I think that that kind of comes in in the write up of the resolution. And so I think just keeping that in mind when that when when we get to that place and are writing up the resolution that I think that the language is hoping to be simple. >> Yeah. >> Because Yeah. >> And on that point I just want to say I think we have very compelling facts here with where we uh measure against the districts in our area. Um, I mean, our rate is nothing compared to what other people are paying and and it's been historically pretty low. And so, um, that didn't I mean, I'm not happy
056that that's the case, but it is. And there's not room for anybody to complain about that or as low as anybody. And we're limited by how much we can go up. So, when people say, "Well, how come we can't do this?" Well, state has rules, >> right? And this is where we're at. What kind of hand did I grab the mask? >> So, I know we I know we've had this conversation at workshops before and it is good to have these conversations too, but we are also are having a business meeting. And so the purpose of tonight is to look at the levy numbers, but then also to make formal action directing the superintendent to prepare a resolution for a replacement of the EPNL levy and the capital projects check levy. And so I didn't
057look close enough, but I think that the document that's attached in the superintendent report really probably should have gone with new business. And so if you um see that document in there, it's a letter of um a letter from the director of business and finance um asking for these particular numbers to be part of the resolution. And so these numbers along with the memorandum would be part of the action directing the superintendent or that resolution. So do is there any further you know questions, conversations before we move into action. >> Okay. >> I have a question about how that and I didn't go look at any samples of the resolutions, but I realize we're going to put the amount in there and that's obviously the big thing and for each of the years. Can we
058say anything in the resolution or the way that the is on goes on the ballot about where we are, what our rate structure is compared to other districts or um I'm just wondering if there's any sales pitch we can include in whatever language goes out there to be public. You know, you see just the dollar amounts. That's one thing. >> There's a lot of wherees. Yes. >> Yeah. >> I have a very odd question. Sir, >> what dictates how much the district can bud student? Is that a state law or is that something that OSBI has? >> State law. >> So I guess with a further question on that, if Google has a levy what looks to be 90 for 27 plus I think some other one. Um why are why did other districts have
059their combined thing at close like $3? >> Because we haven't collected at the max rate previously but also there's many things but one thing is we haven't flected and collected at the rate that we could continue up. Some have bond measures which we do no longer have a bond measure. We don't have a capital projects measure. Some have combined rates and then some have they ask for more. >> And do bonds not count towards the amount per student or >> no different. So, a bond would be like like we used one to build a good one high school and we're potentially looking at one for whatever the future of our facilities is maybe a new elementary school. And so, a levy which collects, you know, around $4 million a year, $3 million a year. A
060bond would be looking at a $65 million project that's spread out over 20 years. And so your so your voters would be paying on that for 20 years versus a levy which is a fouryear collection. So it's a it's more limited and shorter and um and it has a max rate where a bond that's very different. >> Yeah. >> However, the capital technology levy does not have max. >> It's only an EPO levy that has a max. So is the EPN levy the only one that's counting towards the phone student or is that just >> not the capital check just the >> I'll make you a copy of this page which is really cool and tells you the difference between bonds and levies and um it's super helpful you're asking all the great questions. Any
061other questions? >> George, you help us out because these are the questions voters have. They're not >> Exactly. Yeah. >> So, if you have more, keep them coming. >> We love it. >> Move the adoption. >> Yeah. So, we'll take a motion on the new business. We don't have any language other than this. >> That's the motion. >> I'll move to direct the superintendent to prepare a resolution for replacement education programs and operation level in a capital projects technology le. >> Second. It's been moved and seconded to direct the superintendent to prepare a resolution for replacement education programs and operations levy and capital projects technology levy. Is there any discussion? >> Do we need to include the numbers in this or is that just later? >> Well, that I feel like that approving is that
062memorandum. That's why I wanted it. >> So you could we could amend the motion to include the language in the >> this one if you wanted to do that. I'll I'll move to amend the motion to um include the um uh specifications in the recommendation. >> Okay. >> As indicated in the or something. >> As indicated in Yeah. Okay. So, it's Was there a second? >> Second. >> Okay. It's been moved and seconded to amend the motion to include the numbers >> the rates in the attached memo. Is that is that what you said? >> Pretty much. Yeah. >> Okay. >> All right. It's been moved and amended. Any discussion? >> Okay. Um, at this time we'd love to take an advisory vote from our student board >> on the amendment only. >> Um, >>
063or since it was a friendly amendment, should we just say it was just a done deal? >> Well, sure. Let's vote on We can Let's vote on the amendment if you'd like. Would you like to vote on the amendment? >> Sure. Yes. >> Great. Thank you. That's one. Yay. All those in favor of the amendment. I >> I. >> All those opposed. Motion carries. And now we will take an motion or we've already had a motion and now we'll take a vote on the actual motion and we'd love to take an advisory. >> Do we have any discussion? >> Did we? I thought we I thought I said yes. No. You want discussion? I thought I put it out. >> I thought I discussed it. >> Okay. I just wanted to make sure that after
064the motion was on the table, which it is now as of this second, if anybody wanted to say why they were gonna vote for it. >> I'll take an advisory vote. >> Can I you have a discussion? >> Um I just want to provide latitude to you in developing this resolution. um if you wanted to have options or two choices of a paragraph or I mean the resolution will contain the ballot language, right? >> Yes. >> And so um not having seen a sample of one but um recently um I just want to make sure that we we have an opportunity to comment on that if we don't like how it's written or if we don't think that it's it's the right way to sell it or something. You could bring a couple, you could
065bring one. I mean, whatever you feel comfortable recommending. >> I have to ask that. It's not done by myself by the attorney. >> Yeah. So, I'll have to ask what they typically do and how that works. >> And I don't want to change the motion at all. I just want to tell you that when you talk to them, because they're the experts on this stuff, if there are any options for you to consider. Yeah, >> I hope you will. >> I don't expect a lot of latitude. to just saying it's sort of again you got certain sound bites you could use to sell this thing >> and there might be something that they have seen work well at other places. >> Yeah. >> Any other discussion? Just wanted to make sure to say that I
066am looking forward to supporting the district in their decision to request this and our job as a board to support it and to support the programs that it's going to be bringing to our students. So >> any other discussion? All right, it's been moved and seconded. We take an advisory vote from our student board. >> Uh, first yes. Two, I'd like to thank super for all the work he's doing here. >> Thank you. >> That's one. Yay. All those in favor? >> I. >> All those opposed? >> Motion carries. >> And thank you for your good work. And the the final resolution will be available on board docs at our next regular business meeting on October 30th >> 30th. Perfect. And thank you for being here. And we are adjourned.