001Good. Thank you, everyone for being here tonight. Let's get the first order of business out of the way, approval of our agenda. The administration recommends the Board of Directors approve the June 9th, 2026 special board meeting agenda. Do I have a motion? >> So moved. >> Thank you. Second? >> Second. >> Thank you. >> [laughter] >> Any discussion? Okay, seeing none. All those in favor say aye. >> Aye. >> All those opposed? All right. First piece of business action to take care of is resolution number 23 25-26, land purchase in Tuhali. The administration recommends the Board of Directors for Sumner Bonney Lake School District number 320 authorize the superintendent to execute a real estate purchase and sale agreement for acquisition of real property within the corporate boundaries of the Sumner Bonney Lake School District number
002320 for a middle school site within Tuhali, an employment-based master plan community. Do I have a motion? >> So moved. >> Thank you. Second? >> I'll second. >> Discussion? Exciting. >> Expanding, making room for more students. >> All right. Seeing no further discussion, all those in favor say aye. >> Aye. >> All those opposed? Thank you. Motion passes. All right. Next action item is for SHS phase two modernization, resolution number 24 25-26. The district recommends the board accept the results of the MAC package bid openings as presented by the capital projects department and authorize the superintendent or designee to execute the contract amendment number one to the agreement with Skanska USA Building to establish a partial maximum allowable construction costs for an amount not to exceed $24,515,377 plus applicable Washington state sales tax. Do I
003have a motion? >> So moved. >> Thank you. And a second? >> Second. >> Awesome. Any discussion? Another Yeah, another exciting expansion, making more room at SHS. Get phase two done and get that new building up. >> Mhm. >> All right. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> All those opposed? All right, motion passes. All right, that concludes our business portion. Let's hear about the exciting park and recreation report from Jason Sullivan, public services director of the city of Bonney Lake, will present the park parks and recreation program update to the board. Welcome, Jason. >> It's green. Are you going to Oh, perfect. So, thank you Superintendent Dent and school board for having us down tonight to talk about the Bonney Lake recreation program. As mentioned, I'm Jason Sullivan. I'm the public services
004director for the city of Bonney Lake. Also with me tonight is Alexis Latham, who is our superintendent or superintendent, our recreation supervisor for the recreation program. So, I kind of first want to talk about what public services is, which is a little bit broader than just recreation. So, the public services department is a is a single department to provide reliable utility and transportation infrastructure, maintain city facilities and equipment, and provide a range of governmental services related to planning, building, engineering, code enforcement, recreation, parks that support public safety, foster resiliency, and enhance the quality of life for the residents, business, and visitors in the city of Bonney Lake. So, we are divided into about We're divided into five divisions right now. Administrative support, development services, which is all the planning, building, engineering. So, as you're doing
005the expansion of the Bonney Lake High School, the that's the group that you're primarily working with through all the permitting process. That's where all our development review engineers and planners and building staff work out of. Our operations group which has four kind of sections within it which include our fleet, park, sewer, and facilities, street and storm, and water utility. Our infrastructure engineering which is our capital engineering group that does our capital projects. And then of course our new division which is the the recreation division. They joined us late last year as part of public services and we were excited to have them. So we wanted to kind of familiarize familiarize people with the the department as a whole. So what do we offer for recreation? Currently we have sports leagues and camps. Basketball, volleyball, flag
006football, soccer, track and field. And these are the the camps and programs that we run through our side of of the program, not the ones that are necessarily done by the high school coaches. We have fitness and wellness classes, tai chi, karate, gymnastics, a ninja program which I'm really wanting to get involved in but Alex says I'm too old. I'm a little sad about that. We have after school and summer programs, soccer, basketball, volleyball, track, action day camp, and an all day summer and sports camps which we started this year. We have STEM and adult enrichment programs which include our bricks for kids, tai chi, and karate. And also community and and special events. Oh, I'm sorry and the one that we missed on enrichment is we also have a partnership with Main Stage Theater
007to do drama camp during the summer which is very popular and sells out I think within a week of us putting it out there. So I don't know why we missed that one. It's one of our most popular programs. Our community events and special activities like the father and daughter dance, fishes 5K, hoops for Austin, and the fun run. So that we kind of provide that breadth of recreational programs. One of the big questions was who participates? So we did kind of a study late 2024 early 2025 of who's actually participating in the recreational event. So the red boundary on the map is the boundaries of the Sumner Bonney Lake School District. Um we had about 4,300 participants within for the entire program. 90% of those came from inside the district boundaries. Um the vast
008majority of those participants were elementary school age children within you know, 67% and no one even close after that. Uh the next highest group was middle school. So you can see that a lot of our participants are kind of in that Pee Wee middle elementary school um level of of participation. The challenge we have as a city is the number looks very different when you look at it from a city. So of those participants, those 4,300 participants, 23% live in the city. 77% live outside the city with the vast majority living in unincorporated Pierce County as it tuned to 62% of the participants live in unincorporated Pierce County. Not in the city of Sumner or another program, but unincorporated with the largest and kind of the biggest area of influ- influence is the Tuhali area.
009And as Tuhali develops, we anticipate more and more of the participants in the recreation program will come from Tuhali, which is not part of the city, but is part of the school district boundary. Um so that So that's always kind of been a challenge for us as we provide this program which is broader than the city as it as as an entity. Kind of the program cost um was about $829,000 yes- last year. That included about $133,000 of in-kind support from the the Sumner Bonney Lake School District as it relates to facility rentals because our facility rentals are the cost is waived for us. That was about $133,000. Our top three um kind of expenditures of course are staff. No sur- I shouldn't be a surprise to the uh uh a school board that our
010top expenditure is staff salaries and benefits at 47%, uh direct program costs that are about 18%. That's like computers and they're not computers, but direct program costs of putting on the events for supplies for events and stuff like that. And then facilities rentals, which includes that in-kind support of 133,000 and that's 17%. If that's excluded, it drops way down, but after talking with the school district, we felt like it was important to give a full representation of those costs. Um we do res- Last year in 2025, and I think this is where some changes may occur, is we receded back to the associated student body accounts about 3% of the revenue that we took in through different sharing programs because of some of the issues with the way the insurance has to work for some
011of the school district pre- um programs, that that might not be happening going forward because those programs are going to be being run in-house and already through the ASB program. So, I don't think there'll be a change that so much for the ASB, just kind of on our financial side. And then computer software supplies, and yes, we do have to pay B&O tax to the state for some of our services. So, where do we get the money? Um 57% of the money that we receive comes from charges for services, um from camps, programs. Uh 22% is school district funding. That includes the $50,000 that we receive each year from the school district plus the in-kind support of about $133,000. Um 20% comes from a transfer from the general fund. Um the recreation program is not
012a net zero program for us. It doesn't bring in the same amount of revenue that it expends. Um so, the general fund is supporting that effort to a tune of about $140,000 a year, so it's about 20% of our revenue. Or expenditure where the money comes from. And then 1% comes from um sponsorships. So, really heavily on kind of charges for service. Looking forward, >> [sighs] >> um so one of the big things is we are moving away from T Park to Civic Rec uh launching August 1st, uh which means all registration all registrations will be online. Um there will be no more paper registrations. Everything will be done online. Um Alex and her team and our administrative support team have been working really really hard since January to get it up and running um
013and also keep doing all their normal stuff. So, we're really excited that that will be going um live. Uh we're looking to increase advertising and outreach regarding recreational programming in the city. Um we're expanding programming to include additional summer day camps and offerings and hopefully we can support leagues and clinics. Uh and we continue to hopefully offer a recreational program about the the half the cost of competing entities and business. I would say as uh as a as a as a as a father, my sons uh participated their entire life through Puyallup Parks and Rec. Um they were not playing select sports. That was not where they were gifted, but they wanted to be part of a team. They wanted to be playing sports. So, those non-select sports were where they thrived and they spent
014their entire time playing baseball in Little League and flag football through um all the way through eighth grade. And then when they were in high school, they both played football, but they were JV by the time they were seniors. Um really good kids, really good gifted, but they wanted to be part of a team. So, for me, that kind of recreational programming when it comes to allowing students who are not going to be trying to compete at the competitive level to have a place to go and still be know what it's like to be part of a team, to be part of a sports league, to be part of a group of trying to strive for something that's bigger than yourself is really important. Um kind of anticipated needs. One of the things that challenges
015us as a as a group is working with a one-year interlocal agreement with the school district. Um, the it's a big challenge for us because we don't know how we how long we can plan. Right now, we're still trying to Alex and I were talking today. Our interlocal agreement with the school district expires at the end of August. So, we don't really know what's going to happen in September until we get a new interlocal agreement done. With a one-year interlocal agreement, we can only plan long-term for 1 year cuz if we lose the interlocal agreement, the whole program changes because the whole costing structure changes and what we can offer and what we will offer would change. So, some sort of longer-term ILA would allow us to do that kind of more advanced planning and
016then the other anticipated need that we are working on is looking for more sponsorships and grants. Um, we did apply through to Pierce County for a couple grants this year or one grant to help offset the cost. However, their revenue came in I think half of what they were expecting. So, we're not expecting any sort of kind of funding through that grant application that we had submitted this year, but we continue to look for those. There's just not a lot of grant applications for recreation. Um, there's a lot of grants for building stuff. There's a lot of grants for other things, but for providing recreational services, there's just not a lot of grant opportunity. So, I can answer any questions or Alex is here to help me if I can't. So, with that, I hope
017I was I didn't want to be too long and keep it brief for the board just kind of a high overlay, but any questions, just let me know. >> Any any questions from Jason? Can you tell me how many students participate in the programs in our school district? >> Well, >> this year? >> Well, it would be 90% of 433 400 4,330. So, whatever 90% of that is. So, roughly 4,000. Give or take. Yeah. >> Our Yeah, our capital >> doing my math real quick. Take 10 off that. It's about 430, subtract it, so it's about 4,000 students. >> Well, we didn't have common core when we were going to school, so we don't have that visualization. >> They didn't. >> Well, I know I didn't do common core, either. >> No, as I'm saying,
018we didn't we didn't do that. >> doing the math all like my teacher taught me back in my head. >> Good question, Tom. Anybody else? >> Jason, could you help me I understand there's been some change in the insurance. >> It's a microphone. >> Oh. My my gosh. I understand there's been some change in the insurance process or or insurance, especially with the summer camps. Could you help me understand that? >> I I think there was a change because we we finally caught the issue. >> Mhm. >> The what we're requiring now should have always been required. When school district employees are contracting with us to provide recreational services, they're not City of Bonney Lake employees, and they're not school district employees. And so, there's no insurance umbrella that is covering them. When they are
019contracting with us, yes, they are school district employees, and yes, they are doing a camp that involves school district athletes, but they're not part of the school district employees, and they're not part of us. So, they are an independent contractor and need to have an insurance policy, just like all independent contractors, whether they're contracted with us or the school district. >> Is that up to them to procure, or does the the city do anything to help kind of like guide them towards any programs that you've used or uh >> Alex has provided information on some of the insurance programs, but it's their insurance policy to procure. And since it's their insurance insurance policy, they need to have the con- those conversations to understand what their im- their impact to their program is, and what insurance
020coverage they have. >> Yeah, got you. I I would assume that it's probably costly, so that where I was kind of going with that was like >> hundred >> is the city supplementing any of that, or is it completely on the coaches. >> So, it's $270. >> Okay. >> And and if we this is where it kind of gets weird. For one camp. >> Yeah. So, can you repeat what she said? >> Yeah, so >> So, that >> Yeah, so I was looking at Alex to help me out cuz she was dealing with that coach. So, it's about $270, but that's for a year. If it was for one little camp, it'd be about four four to 40 to $50, but because they have the minimum, it ends up being about 270. So, kind of
021with the reimbursement the way it worked with the coaches when they were doing the program is they got back what was left over after we took out our cost. So, the t-shirts, we got 30% plus cost. So, we would take 30% and then whatever t-shirts or supplies that we had to purchase would be deducted from what we returned to the coach. If we purchased the insurance, it would have been the same thing, right? We would have deducted that from what we returned to them. So, if they're paying for it and then we give them back all the proceeds mine that that doesn't include that cost, it's still coming out of the same pool of money. It's just who's making the initial payment. >> Okay. And and what have you seen from the coaches as kind
022of an initial reaction? That are a lot of them saying, "Oh gosh, that's just that eats into my margin." Or are they like, "No, that that sounds reasonable. I shouldn't have a problem with that." Or is it kind >> We've had two coaches that have stayed with us that have done it through recreation, and then the rest of them have gone back to doing it through ASB, um or through I think there was one other PTA I think is covering one, isn't it? Or is it all through ASB? >> I thought it was all through ASB. >> I think it's all through ASB right now. >> Okay. >> Elementary's paying. PTA at some >> point. >> Yeah. It's all It's all through ASB. >> Okay. >> So, that's what I was meaning is that money
023that they were raising for ASB would still be with ASB. It's just that would be coming through their accounts versus it coming through our accounts. >> So, overall you it kind of I'm getting a picture of it doesn't seem like as much of an impact as maybe it was thought of it up front considering they found ways to find funds from ASB or there or they do enough camps that it's reasonable out of their margin to just pay it out of pocket. >> Yeah, I I would I don't want to speak for how the coaches felt that it went cuz I do think it was a shock and I do think it was a change. Um it should have been implemented when the recreation program moved from the school district to the city. So, before
024that when they've been running these programs for years and Alex and her team were employees of the Sumner Bonney Lake School District, it really wasn't a question cuz it was all within the same family. When we moved them about 10 years ago to be part of the city of Bonney Lake all those things are now independent contractors and we should have caught that. And I'll be honest, it was it was not Alex, it was me. Um I got here is the recreation program and it is yours to run. Um and the first thing I do as a director is I contact my risk manager, I contact my attorney and say, "Here are the contracts they're using. What do I need to be aware of? And I got information back and then pushed that information out.
025So, I want people to understand that it came it wasn't anything that recreation was doing. It was because I was tasked as the new director to look into this and run the program and I reached out to our risk manager, I reached out to the city attorney, had them review the contracts to make sure that we were following our guidelines as a city and knew that this was going to be impactful to the coaches and have had had many conversations Superintendent Dent and tried to minimize those impacts as much as they can. And I don't want to speak on how the coaches felt about it because I think that's going to be varied by individual. >> There's been some talk about in the past about the privatization of your of the rec program. Like where
026do you kind of stand on that as far as like partnerships that I've heard, you know, you hear out in the community different partnerships and things that with private entities for different sports programs. >> For the last year I haven't been part of any of those conversations. We've been I've been working with Alex to figure out how we can make the recreation program successful and continue to run that program forward. >> And you talked about the the length of the interlocal agreement being 1 year being kind of hard to work with is how you'd say it just from the standpoint of planning. >> Yeah, it's a challenge. So, I mean, if you think about it right now we get $133,000 from the school district in free rental fees. We don't have any indoor facilities as
027a city. We only have a few fields. We also get about $50,000 a year of financial support from the school district. If that were to evaporate, that's about $200,000 a year out of the recreation program that we would have to make up through charges for service. And And it also changes what programs we may or may not offer. We may not be able to offer any program down on the hill. It may only be things that we could do at the local schools in Bonney Lake. We may have to charge a different fee structure cuz right now whether you're in the city or outside the city, if you're in the school district, you pay the same fee. And so, if that ILA were to vanish, we'd have to relook at that policy to see if
028that's something that we want to continue to do because we'd have to make up that $200,000 shortfall. So, it's hard for Alex and her team to like say this is a program we want to build for the long-term not knowing what the financial look of that program's going to be more than a year out. We know we can manage it for a year, but I can't tell you what that program's going to look like in 5 years cuz I don't know what facilities I'm going to have to tell Alex to go and book in 5 years. Cuz without the inner local, we'd have to pay for the those facilities, so we'd have to be very, you know, we'd have to re-evaluate that. So that that's where that kind of challenge comes from from the ILA
029ILA link and longer-term planning than more than just 12 months. >> Well, so Jason, I mean, in fairness to that comment, I mean, so we've gone well, like we've gone through this conversation ad nauseam because the city of Bonney Lake has been promising us um a plan for parks and rec that we have yet to see. So the one-year agreement has been in place until like we don't even know where parks and rec is going. So as a matter of fact, that 90% participation rate will drop significantly when we absorb back the majority of our camps. And then we're still going to give the city of Bonney Lake $50,000 on top of that, even though we're taking back our camps, doing all of the work. And and you want like a 3-to-5-year agreement for something
030we don't even So you don't know, we don't know. >> Right. And I'm I'm not saying that we get to a 3-to-5-year. I The question that was presented to me from the board that was I was prepared prepared for is what are the things that we need in order to do a longer-term plan. Consistency and knowing what we're planning for is part of that. >> So what we need is a plan. >> But I can't give you a plan until I know what facilities I have, those facilities are guaranteed. As I said, we have a we have a true chicken and egg situation here, and I don't know what I don't know what the path forward looks like. >> Could you estimate based on and say if we were having a conversation about this agreement
031and we said, "Okay, if we went to a 2-year, okay, what would that look like for you? If we went to a 3-year, what would that look like? 4 or 5? And you were able to present a forecast of you know the program, you've been doing the program. So, you know what you want to continue to see if you go back to the very slide of the programs you want to to do unless you're planning to add 50% more programs or 100% more programs, which I I would imagine that's not the case. It's probably pretty steady. >> Yeah, I I think the >> do, but could you forecast that out based on those possibilities? And then that would give us a Okay, if we agree to a 3-year program or in our local agreement, it
032gives you the ability to plan for X instead of just planning for Y. >> Yeah, I I think that's possible. I also think you can structure an interlocal agreement that has different milestone check-ins that say, "Yes, we're going to do this many years on the interlocal agreement, but the city has to do this by this date, this by this date, this by this date." Right? So, that we are meeting those milestones in in a kind of agreed-upon way. So, you can structure that ILA in a way that's supportive to both entities and both organizations. Um And the part of that, you know, part of that the agreement for us receiving that $50,000 was also that we wouldn't charge in-city and out-city rates. Right? So, part of that is buying that ability for the city to
033say, "If you're in the city of Bonney Lake, it's this. If you're outside the city, it's this." Right? So, that's part of what that 50,000 is is to buy down that agreement that we will charge people in Tehaleh the same as we buy we do in the city of Bonney Lake because we're all in the same school district. Or people that live in the city of Sumner and Sumner doesn't participate in the program pay the same rate that unincorporated residents pay and the city of residents pay. So, that's part of what that is is to buy down that that agreement to that we agree to not charge differentiated rates if you live in the school district. >> Okay. But it kind of back to my question about kind of forecasting out your program and what
034it looks like over the coming years. You just mentioned like having gate reviews written into that interlocal agreement, but to me writing those into that agreement is the way to check and balance against what you tell us you're going to do for those years. So it we're we're back to the first part. I mean, I don't know that an interlocal agreement if we just sat here and said, "Yo, sure. Let's do an interlocal agreement that has two, three, and four-year gate reviews to make sure we're all still good to go." That to me is a separate topic that we would probably agree to in the end, but before that we still kind of need to know what your plan is. >> And and right now we need to have a at least a one-year extension
035of the ILA or we don't know what local relation looks like in September. >> Sure, that's certainly reasonable, but we we've been doing one-year agreements now for the last several years and so we're kind of waiting for that that plan till we can feel comfortable extending that out. Is that Is that something we can kind of continue to speak about and >> Yeah, no. We can I'm open for all discussions and yeah, I think it's just understanding you know what those costs look like and what what you're really looking for in that plan. Right? >> I I think from our standpoint, we're not looking to and I'm not speaking in general, just kind of saying hypothetically here. I would imagine that we're not looking to drastically change it from our end. Like we're still willing
036to give the rental in kind, that sort of thing. That's pretty easy to do for us. So we don't foresee that being something that we would be pulling away. So if that's what you're getting from us and that's the main piece that funds the majority of this and there's not other pieces that you're you're >> I would say it's both that 50,000 and the the in kind support. >> So if if those two things were still on the table in the in the conversation, couldn't you reasonably forecast out your program for a couple years? >> We could. I mean, I think yeah, that's that's easy. I I just Yeah, I don't think that's impossible. Is it doable by the next 60 days? Probably not. Alex Alex, you got to You have to come up here.
037>> Come on up to the microphone, if you could, please. Thank you. >> So, the other important piece is the priority of the reservations. So, right now, we're right after the school district and before, you know, the other community members. So, if we were put into the community member pool, it would be, you know, hit or miss. I mean, we wouldn't know if we could get the building. So, we could be planning for a program and then, oh, we don't have a facility, so we're going to have to cancel that. So, that's just a very key piece of that ILA. >> But, part of the process for the city of budgeting, I mean, it's a you're forecasting all the time when you're doing a budget. And by definition, a forecast never is it 100% accurate.
038So, is it reasonable to say like you can forecast out what you see your program doing over like Do you see the next 3 years exact same offerings every year? Or do you see Oh, we want to offer one more camp a year and and keep increasing it? >> I think right now, given the staffing levels, we're pretty much at the maximum that we can offer. >> And that is reasonably >> You know, at the max We did add one the the sports camp this summer, but we're really getting to the point with three recreational staff that we're kind of at that maximum level of programs that we can um offer. We're always looking to find ways to improve efficiencies like adding Civic Rec, which might improve registration efficiencies, which frees up times to do
039more camps. So, um yeah, we I mean, we'll be we'll be at least forecasting revenue and expenditures over the next 2 years in the next couple months as we do our budget, but those won't be finalized until December. So, I'm not saying that we need to sign a 3-year interlocal agreement in the next 60 days. I'm just saying as we continue on this part partnership of working with the school district in partnership, um that that's the long-term need. And that may not be something that we can revisit now. It might be something that we have to visit in the future. Um I just throw that up there cuz that's kind of the question that was asked of me was what are those needs looking like? And I think that was um one of the needs
040that we've identified. Um I'm not saying that there's not needs that the school district has identified that they want. Um and I think that once we get all those needs on the table, um I've only been involved with the recreation program for just about 12 not even 12 months yet. Um recreation moved into our department in December of 2025, so I'm about 6 months 7 months into this program, so um trying to get myself up to speed. Um yeah, we I've talked with Alex about coming up with a long-range plan. It's just we're trying to figure out what that looks like. And I think that that's going to have to be a conversation with the school district um and what the school district wants to see in it. Um it's easy to forecast revenue and
041cost. Um I think those are those are easy things to do is what other I guess what other items that you would want to see as a school board in that in that plan. >> Yeah, so so you're saying like you you don't necessarily see foresee, which obviously not only new to that that comment, but you foresee keeping the program relatively where it's at as far as the offerings and that sort of thing. So, if you do have that data point, you could reasonably forecast out. I think what the district is just looking for is what is your program going to look like. I think if the district were to see different changes that you were making to the program that were drastic, then we would have to reevaluate like our participation necessarily. If you're
042you're to kind of keep things status quo, like if you could communicate that in a plan, I think it's very reasonable to then have a conversation about a multi-year agreement. Um, but I think I don't know that it's necessarily, to me hearing what you've said tonight, like necessarily chicken and egg. It sounds like you kind of know what your program's going to look like. Um, and if we were to say, "Okay, forecast and forecast with these assumptions in mind," >> you could do that. >> Yeah, that's we'd have to make some assumptions. >> Sure. That's a forecast that's assuming >> Yeah. >> a lot of >> Assuming these things stay static. Cuz if those things don't stay static, everything gets reevaluated. So, I don't disagree with >> took back all of the camps. So, it's
043not status quo. I mean, we're doing the majority of the work over the summer. And and we love Parks and Rec. Don't get me wrong, but I I think part of the reason you don't know what the plan is, and not you, the City of Bonney Lake, because I I fully recognize that you just took this over, like like this was a whole game changer for us. I mean, too, and Brian Kalin and Brian Verley, like we scrambled to make sure that we took care of our kids this summer. And we are. And you can see the advertisements happening already, and those camps are going to happen because our staff are dedicated to the students in this district. What I don't know is where is the City of Bonney Lake going to be now that
044we're taking back the the a bulk of that 90% participation? >> So, we're still going to be offered all the camps that weren't offered by the coaches. So, the the little the the peewee soccer, the peewee uh the T-ball, the flag football program, the um you know, Bricks for Kids, the Main Stage partnership. So, those camps are still going on this summer. And really, the only time that we had a lot of sports camps in the summer that were co-sponsored with kind of Bonney Lake with the school district staff are the summer camps. Outside of the summer, fall, winter, spring, those are primarily programs that we are running. Did I say that correctly, Alex. So, really it's you we're focused on one season when the recreation program runs 12 months out of the year and
045outside of that those few summer camps that are run by the school district um coaches >> There's summer camps. >> Huh? >> There are a lot of summer camps. >> But we're still also running >> And elementary after school sports. >> Yes, and that one we still have to talk about kind of what that one looks like. >> See, also that should say we still have to talk about a plan. >> Right, cuz we don't know if on the elementary school after school, we don't know if the school district wants to run that or if they want us to run it. >> Well, really it's does the coach who coached it want to buy the insurance? >> Right. So, if they don't want to buy the insurance we're we will always make sure our kids
046are taken care of just like we do with the before and after school child care. >> But Superintendent >> that that we took that back as well. >> Superintendent, that we could also run that program after school. It would just be with Blaine Lake employees. >> Well, and I mean we well >> That's what I'm saying, it's >> Right. >> That's an unknown cuz I don't know what that looks like. >> need a plan. That's what that's what I'm saying. We need a plan. >> Chase honest as program has been up there as I understand from my point of view from the city and what you're doing here, too. And I understand why we're paying you $50,000 to use our facilities when we can probably run them better than you can yourself. And you know,
047I just and you've always struggled we've always struggled in Blaine Lake with those with those programs. They have been unless they had in daycare, they weren't cost effective at all. The city was losing money back then. >> I mean, that would be I'd have to say that would be a policy question between the Blaine Lake City Council and whether or not the school district wants to bring rec back in-house. Because the school district came to the city of Blaine Lake saying they were going to cut the recreation program if the city didn't take it. >> Well, so that's not completely true. >> That was, you know, seven years ago. >> of conversations about that because we needed So, that was a different conversation at a different time. So, I'm just going to say that what
048your statement you just said not totally factual. However, um to get us back on track, we will always take care of our kids, regardless, just like we are now. We just need a plan. That's it. >> And I I yeah, I don't know where we go from here at this point. >> Like you you talked about like you needed chicken and egg. You needed some assumptions laid out so you could plan. So, we're kind of saying to you if you assume these things are true, can you forecast that and give us a plan? >> Right. And I I guess yes, we can, but can we do that in 60 days? >> Yeah, I don't think that's probably reasonable, right? But so, the board's not going to take action tonight on giving the city by the
049way, right? >> I'm not asking for any action tonight. Like >> It's not on the agenda, so >> Yeah, no no I'm not even proposing any >> to agree uh if the board were to agree to extend the um the interlocal for one more year, could we develop a plan? And I think we because we are great partners. I mean, this district is an army that will I mean, it's a machine, right? And we'll help partner, but like can you get it done in a year? Because we've been promised that before, not by you. >> And I'm saying I I'll be honest, I don't know if I can get it done in 12 months. With everything else that we have on our plates. Right? I'll be honest. Could we? Yeah, could Alex and I talk
050about it and possibly come up with that? Um yes, but um could I guarantee that and standing here right now, I'm not going to make that guarantee or promise cuz I don't want to say yes, I can and then it not happen. I guess is I guess what I my concern is. Yeah. Till I know for sure, I'm not going to profess that. Cuz there's also those policy makers above me that have to weigh in on that. That would have to weigh in on that plan. I don't know how long that would take cuz I'd have to have those conversations with those policy makers as well and the mayor. >> I I think that any more questions? >> Well, I'm just We city has a lot of history with this program way back when you
051know, people have been for the program before she came on. So so I think by now you should be able for this is going to be profitable for it work out or if not. In the long run. >> Right. I I was I don't I'm I think >> why you need a whole another year to figure it out. You've got history already. What what's going to make it happen? >> Well, I think what um board director Lewis was asking was for more of a longer look looking at both revenue, news, program offerings, how we propose to expand the program. You know, those take conversations at our level. Those also take conversations with our policy makers, the city council and the mayor cuz there's going to be then a commitment made by the city to those
052things. As a director, I can't make those commitments. I'm not empowered to make those commitments. I'm empowered to as I went through tonight and presented what we've done and where we're at and what the history and the data is, I'm empowered to take back the information that the board is providing and the superintendent is providing and provide that to the mayor and provide that to the the the council. Um but for me to say that I can give you commitments on things without having gone through and talked to my policy makers. Um I think you would be just as frustrated if superintendent Dent was at the school making up at the city making policy guarantees >> Not asking you to do that. >> on behalf of the school district. I Well, I feel like >>
053We're not asking you to do that. I think what we're asking is for you to take a message back. >> Yep. I can do that. >> Present that to your stakeholders and your executives. >> Yep, totally fine. >> If you're if from what I gathered, the the main thing I personally took away from your program other than that it's wonderful and you have offerings is that you stated that it would be very helpful if you had longer than 1 year in our local business. >> Yes. >> And so what I'm trying to do in this conversation is say, how can we help you with that? >> I think that's what you're asking for. >> Yeah, and I got that. >> We want to help you, so can you please take that message back that we
054need a plan. We want to see what is it the program going to look like? We keep taking things back, after school care, the everything. And so it you can see why we start to get a little hesitant to like start giving more money when we're giving the same amount of money yet taking more things on ourselves. And we would just like to see a multi-year plan so that we can commit to a multi-year interlocal and then put gate reviews in there to make sure everybody's happy along the way. So that would be I'd say the message that I hope personally that you take back to your team. >> And I believe that that's a a fair request and I will pass that along to the mayor and the city council and um we'll kind
055of continue those conversations. >> Okay. Thank you very much. Any other questions? All right. Thank you for your time. >> Thank you. >> Appreciate it. All right, that actually concludes all of our business for the evening. Uh next bit of information for you is the announcement of our next regular board meeting. Board meeting has been scheduled for Tuesday, June 16th, 2026 and will begin at 6:00 p.m. in the central board room office. We are adjourned. Thank you.