001I'd also like to thank you for your courageous support. Um, obviously, you know, our district is a district that has a lot of challenges just like every district in the state. And with that, I am going to lead us in the pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Okay. Next thing we need to do is we need to election of the meeting chairperson. We will seek nominations. >> I'll nominate Paul Leinsky. >> Okay. Paulinski is nominated. >> Second by Dave. Any other nominations? Um, seeing no other nominations. I think we have to vote. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> All those opposed. >> Okay. >> Carries. All
002right. I am the meeting chairperson. Um, next item four, appoint a person to take minutes and the parliament parliamentarian. Um, I can talk. Um, who would like to take notes? Jackie. >> Jackie. Nominate. Jackie Martin. Take notes. And who wants to be the parliamentarian? >> Who's pretty good? Tom McCarti. >> Are you pretty good at that? >> Is anybody good at this? Anybody know Robert's rules? >> Diane Gorman. We will nominate Diane Gorman. >> Just don't get out of line. That's right. >> Okay. Uh item number five, we will report to district residents our superintendent, Greg Dober Spike. >> Yeah. I just want to Good evening and thank everyone for attending tonight. Uh it's my privilege to serve as the district administrator for the Mosy School District and present the annual report to our residents.
003This past year has been both busy and rewarding. With the successful passage of the referendum, careful work on balancing the budget, continued efforts to know our community, and a growing focus on personalizing learning, we have laid a strong foundation for the future. What stands out most to me is the passion of the community for its schools and the wide range of opportunities that our district provides to our students. Traits that are not found everywhere. Over the past year, we've remained committed to creating a district improvement plan that aligns with our school improvement plan in each building. This cohesive approach strengthens vertical alignment across all three schools and ensures a common focus. They center on four key pillars. Student- centered learning, instructional excellence, collaboration and community, professional leadership, and growth. These pillars serve as the backbone
004of our students our focus on student engagement which is essential to the learning process. While engagement has been a topic of discussion for many years, the difference that we are looking at as a detailed plan in place for how to address this. We're exploring ways to personalize learning, including the use of emerging technologies where AI based econ educational technology is used to meet students where they are at academically and personally and to move them forward on their individual educational paths. Another priority this year is school safety. District has updated evacuation and reunification processes, fully revised our crisis manual, and ref uh refreshed classroom flip charts. I want to thank the administrative team for their many hours of work ensuring that these resources provide clear actionable guidance in a range of crisis situations. In addition, we
005dedicated time during our August inservice and will continue throughout the year to training uh and training on school safety and active shooter response. We're fortunate to have a strong partnership with the Mosan Police Department and our other various first responder groups in our community. Equally important is our emphasis on student mental health. We're proud to have expanded our partnership with Compass Counseling, giving elementary students and their families greater access to counseling without leaving schools. This means less lost instructional time for students and more convenience for families. So, thank you to Mr. Grill for helping secure this valuable support. We remain committed to finding ways to support students academically, socially, and emotionally. Without healthy and well-nourished students, learning is difficult to achieve. Major focus this year, of course, is the building project. We are deeply grateful
006for to the community for support of the referendum. The project is prog progressing on schedule with completion planned for the start of the school year. On the financial side, the first set of bonds was sold in the spring of 2025 with the remaining bonds scheduled for early 2026. Encouragingly, interest rates are coming in lower than projected, which will allow us to keep the referendum tax impact at the 17 mark that we shared during the pre-referendum process. Finally, I'd like to address school finance. As finance director Rod Hoother Hooter will share shortly, the district is in a stable position for the current year. Through budget reductions and careful planning, we have been able to balance this year's budget. However, tonight's report is still an anticipated budget. Final data on aid certification, property valuation, and enrollment will
007be available in the coming weeks with the finalized budget presented at the October Board of Education meeting. That said, declining enrollment remains a challenge and it reduce as it reduces district revenue while costs continue to rise with inflation. This may require difficult decisions in the years ahead. I firmly believe our responsibility is to provide the best education possible in the most coste effective and fiscally responsible way and that belief will continue to guide our work. In closing, I'm proud of the educational system we have here in Mosan. Our success is a direct reflection of the strong support of the community, the talents of our students, the dedication of our staff, and the leadership of the school board. to all of these groups and to our administrative team. I extend my sincere thanks for your tireless
008efforts on behalf of the students of our community. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. White. Um, I'd like to thank the superintendent, the administration, and the school board for all your effort uh to keep this school district, you know, in a good standing, especially educationally and financially. So, compliments to all of us. I know we all have different viewpoints, but I think we've conducted oursel in a very professional manner and learned to work together and I think the referendum uh shows that. All right, I'd like to move on to item number six, presentation for budget by the director of finance. All right, if you're in the booklet, it starts with page 10. Otherwise, we'll have it on the screen. Uh the first thing up here, you can see we're basically balanced for this year. Um
009numbers are running good. So maybe we'll have a little surplus here yet. Um state budget was finalized the two-year budget. So first three points are state budget related and then some other cost points declining enrollment and the aid we'll get into later and also the debt note as superintendent mentioned. So, here's the budget on page 11. General fund, which is our main fund. Here's all the various details and past history on that fund. Special projects fund 21 is donations, scholarships, and the act student activity clubs. And fund 27 is a special education fund. The debt service funds are non-referendum and referendum are combined in this box. Capital projects fund 46 is not the referendum project. It's money we have put in to this fund for future projects. You get state aid when you put the
010money in, but you do not get state aid then when you spend it on a project later. Fund 49 is the big referendum project and amounts I put in next year's budget are just you know guesses and you know what's going to come in by June 30th versus it's in July and August of 2026 you know so uh but yeah that reflects the activity that's happened in the referendum fund food service fund and community service fund I guess I would take any questions on those two pages of budgets that anybody might have. Otherwise, it's just totals and the tax levy we'll get to later. And then the energy efficient exemption uh required notice. So that's what that is right there. So the revenue limit which is a big you know 80 to 85% of the
011school district's funding. So that's the big thing. So membership here's the data on the membership and the three-year average. The revenue limit uses a three-year average. So that's why I included that data point. And so where do we use that revenue limit is last year's how much we got per kid. The additional 325 the state budget gave us this year. So we're going to get 11,66341 per student this year. Our three-year average is $1858. That would give us this base revenue limit. We do get a declining enrollment exemption. If you have declining enrollment, instead of using the current three-year average, you could use the prior year's three-year average. So, that's what that amount is. It gives you a year to rightsize your staffing. Um, but it's gone after this year. Uh, the energy efficient exemption
012is basically matched up with the debt that will levy for that part of for the energy efficient project that happened and the vouchers those are in and out as I have a note down below. So we got a total revenue limit. For that total revenue limit, we get a state aid. And what we don't get aid on in various exempt property or just the general state equalized aid we can levy for. So that's how much we have left to levy. And we do have to levy for the nonreferendum debt, which is the energy efficient debt and the high school science edition debt. So that's what that 1.17 million is. So that's how if everything was perfectly estimated, that's where the levy would run. Any questions on that before we >> How many more years for
013the science? >> Quite a few I think, but I don't know off top of my head. How how long did we do the science edition? >> 2017. >> So, usually 20 years. So, >> yeah. Still got 12. >> Does that stay pretty much consistent that amount? >> It goes up like maybe 2% in total. the interest goes down but the principal they have you goes up because they assume you'll levy a little bit more every year. >> If you can just explain to the the general person what levy means. So if right now your projection is the 1.17 what does levy mean to the to the Mos resident? Well, I'll get to that, I guess, then a little bit in the next slide maybe or two slides from now, we'll go over the tax implications.
014So, sticking with the revenue limit, here's how much we got last year if we take out vouchers, which are in out, and this year's estimate. So, we'll have 120,000 in new money. Now, that new money is not even close to what inflation is on our everyday expenditures except we had a surplus last year. So, that's why we're not, you know, in the hole this year, but next year we'll have to see where we're going to land. But, so we only have 120,000 new money. State aid last year was 14.7 million. This year we're estimating 13.45 million, so 1.28 million less. The state did not add any new funds to school districts general aid pot and that hasn't happened. It's pretty unique situation. Um, and so that's the biggest chunk of why we have less state
015aid, but it also is less because we have less kids and we have less cost. >> I have a question. So, I know the declining enrollment isn't just specific to Mosine, but do you think that >> we're pretty consistent with surrounding districts? Do you know that data >> statewide? I know it's declining, but probably not at our rate. You know if you next month I'll have the membership detailed summary >> I give give you guys that has by grade RVA me in and out open enrollments and then I'll have better idea of at what point would we level out okay >> you know but I think calendarer we can uh try to gather some of that data for next month once Once everybody gets their third Friday account in September finalized uh for this year,
016then we'll be able to have an opportunity to, like you said, look at what our >> percentage is declining versus our neighbors. Uh if if our percentages increase exceeds our neighbors or if it's the same as our neighbors, >> that's good information to have. >> So decrease in state aid 1.28 million. Here's what we proposed to levy at this point in time not knowing enrollment the valuation and the state just using estimates 10.5 million to 11.77 million which is 1.28 million more levy. It's I didn't budget it's just coincidence that they're basically the same number. If our state aid were the same as last year, our amount we have to levy the local taxpayers would not be going up. But we do have to levy more. And this 11875 is supposed to be 11775. Note
017that please. >> Do you want to know talking about levy, Rod? Um I think I got that on then. So down here you hear mill rate which is basically tax rate thrown around. Um so if our valuation goes up 7 and a2% >> from last year that's the estimate we used. Uh the statewide the estimate is 8%. Marathon County is double digits. So, I'm sure ours will be more, but to be conservative, 7 12% gives us a mill rate of 6.14. Um, if it were to be 11%, it'd be $5.95, but that's as a a mill rate, whereas you can see the amount we levy is going up $1.28 million. So if last year's tax bill, Art Miller was $5.89 and you had a $100,000 house, you pay $589. So this year it'd be 614
018other than please note, you know, this isn't going to be your house, your valuation of your house is going to be more. So if we say your house value went up 7 and 12%. Then your miller rate at 614 is going to go from 589 to 660. And then you can look at what valuation is closest matches your personal residence. But I just wanted to keep that in mind. The dollars are going up that we need because the state aid was not increased. Did that answer your question, Jessica? Or do I was your question? >> Yep. Essentially, I just wanted you to break it down into layman's terms as to what it means to the taxpayer because they may not know necessarily the definition of levy and >> Yeah. Levy is Yeah. Just we're going
019to tell the townships to put on your tax bill dollars >> that goes to the school district. you know, after the levy is set in October, we send them a DPI form that tells them how much to levy for us. >> The hardest concept I when I talk to people is that their property, they have a difficult time understanding that their property value has gone up and therefore your taxes are going to increase because of that. And a lot of people, well, why why did it increase? up, your property value went up and therefore even if the everything stayed the same, you'd still would pay more because it's worth more. >> Yeah. If our mill rates need 589, you'd still be paying >> Yes. >> more. And a lot of people have a difficulty time
020understanding that that my house is worth more now than it was last year. So is is I thought I remember from the last meeting that the projection is that property taxes are going up 11%. >> But I use seven and a half to be concerned. >> We're we're >> seven and a half. >> Yeah. >> We we aren't going to know the actual number of our property valuation increase until it October 1st. >> Okay. >> That comes out. So, we've been told it's probably going to be closer to 11%, but we're just using 7 1/2 as a conservative. >> And do you know and what what how much of that is because the uh values of properties going up versus the mill? >> We don't know that. >> We don't know. Yeah. >> Yeah. If
021there's new construction and your property doesn't go up, then yeah, all the tax the new taxes are going to that new construction. or if you remodel your house, get a permit, you know, you know, your value of your house is going to go up. But what we don't know of that 11%, how much is new construction and how much is just houses going up in value? Maybe it's 10% and 1%. So yeah, they don't break it down for us that way. So, you know, we can't know, like Rod said, if 1% of our 11% valuation increase is because people have added onto their house or have built something new. Um, versus if how much of it, like let's say in my example, 1% is new or odds, 10% is just inflationary increases on the value
022of your property. um is is how to look at it because your prop the somebody has determined that your property is worth more today than what it was a year ago now because property value >> and maybe you didn't improve anything. It's just that the value of your property went up. But if you put a new roof on or windows now your property will increase. That's why you have building permits. Well, I'm just a little bit worried about how the community is going to take place. >> We We are too. >> I know you are. >> I talked about it then. >> Is it fair? Is it necessary >> and I'm just being a >> bad guy because I hear that. >> Diane, we talked about this of us. We're trying to convey this message
023to people that there are a lot of reasons why your property tax is going up. >> It isn't just because of the referendum, although that is one, not totally, but it is one factor. >> It is. >> And if you look at the referendum debt service levy line, you know, it's went down from 1.2 to 1.1 to 1.1. So if anybody says the increase to their tax bill is because of the referendum, that is not the case. >> The actual amount we're levying for the debt on the referendum is actually going down. >> Another question, declining enrollment. >> Why is it declining? >> Uh well, it's declining across the country because people are having fewer kids. sad to >> um can't afford it. >> Yeah. I mean I you know I I >> in some
024cases I used to joke or not joke but I used to say it's the death of the family farm. Um cuz farm kids farmers aren't having eight kids anymore to help on the family farm. It's a corporate situation. Not saying it's right or wrong. It's just people aren't having three to four to five kids anymore. It's one to two or none. Uh so that's part of it. The other reality is is there's not a tremendous amount of housing in our community for people to buy to move into. Uh so with your aging population, which is evident, you know, which is the baby boomers are getting to the retirement age or or that um that that you're seeing. >> Is there any thought possibility to uh specifically to Mos changing that trend that getting our enrollment
025to go up? Well, >> I know. I know. That's >> right. Right. I guess I guess what I'm Yes, I would love to have our enrollment go up. Uh but it's not all something that we can control because, you know, some of it, like I said, is based on housing. You know, we don't control the housing market in the community um in the district. But, you know, if you look, there's not a lot of houses for sale. um if if really any or if they are they're you know typically out of the price range of a young family. Um I would say so that's part of the problem. Uh but we are in conversations with the city about how we can partner with that. I think one of the things that we are trying to
026do is do more to promote ourselves. >> You know we've been in the media a lot more lately in the hope that we can attract, you know, we can't attract them here to live because there's no housing. Maybe they'll attract here to open enroll here which will then help with our enrollment as well because we are a winner in the open enrollment game. We have more coming in than going out. But if you can increase that number uh then it helps. But the conversation of declining enrollment for the most part is being uh experienced by everybody. Uh some of the areas that aren't experiencing it are those that are growing in population. Um you know uh it's slowing down a little bit but like St. Craig County over by uh Hudson and Somerset and that
027area was getting all the people leaving the cities and moving into the rural or more rural areas and then commuting into the Twin Cities. You know, kind of where I came from. You know, you got some urban sprawl happening around Dayne County and some of those other areas are seeing urban sprawl where people are leaving and moving out of the less populate density areas. So those are seeing increases a little bit in enrollment but it's not a byproduct of them having more kids. It's a byproduct of people moving to areas where there's housing and there's housing developments occurring >> and maybe it's a sort of developments because if you look at look at the growth in Maple Ridge and out of drive and we have to planning enrollment. So is it because these again they're
028not having the kids or they're moving in moving out you know maybe that's the type of development we need to look at. Is it better to try to get more single family homes than the types of complexes they're putting on? >> But the unfortunate part of this is we're a school district. We don't have control over housing and legislation and things like that. And that's yeah, you're you're almost fighting a battle with your hands behind your back. >> But where you may have control is those that we are having of our own district that are enrolling out. Why? Yeah, >> we can survey and try to retain or recruit back and find out why they're leaving. >> That's a good point. >> Do we know if our open enrollment is up in comparison to the
029last last year, a couple few years? >> This Friday is the count date and so next week I was going to dig into all of that. >> Last year we had a positive move into our district and move out, but we still had some people move out. >> Open ro. should be in the ballpark of net positive 25 more in than out >> which is trending up I mean the last 5 years since I've been on it has gone up because we used to be in the negative yeah >> but again you have so many factors they may work in Stevens Point can't find daycare is another problem at those >> they can't find so they when they go to point they can find daycare where they work And municipalities don't follow school district lines
030either. So I can live in Cronin Weather and I can move three houses down and go from the DC Everest school district to the Mosan school district or vice versa, but never really leave Cronin. And you could say that about any one of our municipalities that have multiple school districts involved where you know you can live on one side of the road and be in this district and live on the other side of the road and be in the other school district. So >> where I live, we have four school districts all right next. >> So you you end up with some of that in terms of open enrollment where people >> now that open enrollment has gone to more of a year round atmosphere and less just that month of February like it originally
031was or April, whatever month that was, you know, people are transient. They're moving and they have, you know, and I get it. My kids have gone to X school for eight years and I moved four houses down. I don't know if I want my kids to go to a new school when I can open enroll them and they can go where they were because I'm working there anyway. I mean like >> you're seeing more of that stuff happening as well. >> Have we had a lot more leave for RVA or >> we're part of RVA so we're okay with that. You're getting some that are leaving. I mean obviously some virtual school programming is is you know es and flows. I would say it's gone up postco for some the allure of it. Um >>
032what about homeschooling? >> Uh that es and flows typically I would say we had a little bit of an uptick on homeschooling last year. Uh now some of those kids that are homeschooling have come back. I know um I can think of three or four of them off the top of my head that have come back to the district uh that left or were either at part of last year or all of last year. So, you're seeing some of them return. So, that's a positive. >> Just some Okay, >> question. Thank you. >> Do you have anything else, Rod? >> Just the next page is justformational. It shows our debt schedules. Actually, I think that one adds if you go up >> or whatever that one, that one I think talks about the go up
033one more. >> Okay. So, this is >> that is our science edition. This you can see what year we're down paying on that is 2038, right? >> Yep. >> I think you asked that right, Paul. award >> and you have anything else on the um presentation of the proposed budget? >> No. >> I think the next one's the annual treasures report, right? >> Mhm. >> That's you also. >> Yep. That's just very short. cash balance, fund balance, and a required post employment fund 73 information >> which we have a lot of money in fund 73. >> We are pretty close to fully funding. Y [Music] >> any other financial questions for him or anybody else? I'm glad to see that a lot of you are asking questions and trying to because this is a big
034part of the responsibility of being financially sound. Every school district is facing some of these same challenges. You have inflation and and really when you don't receive more money from the state, you have problems and that's every school district's in that situation. Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Okay. Item number eight is the authorization of the 25 26 tax levy. It's an advisory only. Um be a resolve that the school tax be assessed advisory only against all taxable property within the district in the sum of 11,775,685. pardon me, which is necessary to operate and maintain the district school system and to finance the recommended budget and that the debt service obligation general fund 10 would be 8,740,685. Non-refer referendum debt service fund fund 38 would be 1,170,000. the referendum debt service fund 39 1,110,000
035and community service fund fund 80750,000 I'll seek a motion >> make a motion >> and a motion by Kaiser second by Stanowski any discussion >> I was just going to mention that this is a time too that doesn't just have to be board members to make the motion >> and second anybody in the audience >> anybody I'm sorry Yes. >> Anybody that wants to make a motion can do it. >> Yeah. That's a taxpayer. >> Yes. >> Yep. As a Yep. >> or a district resident. >> Yep. And everybody gets to vote. It's an advisory vote. >> Okay. All those in favor of the motion say I. >> All those opposed? N. Motion carries. >> Paul, did we have a vote on the budget? >> Did we need to vote for the budget? >> Yes,
036we do. >> Oh, sorry. All right, let's go back. My mistake. Let's go back to item six, presentation of the budget. Um, I'll need a motion to accept the the budget. >> I'll make a motion. >> Motion by Nest. >> Second by Bower. Any discussion. >> All right. All those in favor say I. I. >> All those opposed? Nay. >> Motion. Was that >> I? >> Okay. One one motion. One one nay. All right. That motion carries. We are on item nine. Authoration authorization of the board to provide transportation for public and non-public school transportation. Be it resolved that the school board of Mosin School District, Marathon County, state of Wisconsin, be authorized to provide transportation service at the district expense to all pupils outside the Mosan city established by said school board section 121.5423.
037Be resolved that the school board of Mosan school, Marathon County, state of Wisconsin be authorized to provide transportation service at the district's expense to all resident pupils enrolled in private school situated not more than 5 miles beyond the boundaries of the school district measured along the usual traveled routes. I'll take a motion. I'll seek a motion. >> I'll make a motion. >> Got a motion by Dan Dah. Thank you, Dan, for your participation. I'll second. >> I'll second. >> Second by Zebro. Any discussion? >> Okay. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> All those opposed say A. Motion carries. Item 10, authorization of the board to provide school lunches. Be resolved that the school board of the Mosese school district, Marathon County, state of Wisconsin, is hereby directed to furnish school lunches to
038all and any of all students in the district at such places and times and such cost as shall be set by said school board. At the school board is hereby authorized to pay any deficiency which may result from school lunch program section 120.1016. I will seek a motion. >> I'll make a motion. >> Motion by Nest. >> I'll second. >> A second by Dan Boy there, man. >> Okay. Any discussion? All right. All those in favor say I. >> All those opposed say nay. Motion carries. Item 11, set salary and expense reimbursement for school board members. This was voted on the 24th annual meeting currently. Um, and I don't I think we've had some discussion about potential of possibly changing this, but currently you can see the read. It says, "Schoolboard members shall receive $200
039per meeting attended to a maximum of 14 board meetings, 12 monthly meetings, plus two special meetings, plus an additional stipen of $200 when attending 14 meetings. Board officers and board committee chairpersons shall receive an additional compensation as follow. Board President, $500 per year." Didn't know that. Board vice president, $300 per year. Board clerk, $300 per year. Board treasurer, $300 per year. Personnel committee chairperson, $100 per year. Finance and building committee chairperson, $100 per year. And the instructional program committee chairperson, $100 per year. The board members will also receive $200 per explosion meeting attended up to a maximum of four per year. They shall receive 200 per demium for attending outside conferences or meetings subject to the limits identified in the next paragraph. The maximum compensation for a schoolboard member not attending a national conference or
040serving on an interview committee shall be $5,000 per year. Schoolboard members who attend national conference shall receive up to four additional premium days as compensation. Schoolboard members who serve as an interview committee to hire an administrator shall receive an additional compensation of $200 per day. Be it further resolved that the board members be reimbured for all their actual and necessary expenses up to the limits defined by the schoolboard policy when traveling outside the district to perform schoolboard duties in accordance with state statutes. >> Okay, Paul, I just have some suggestions. Um and >> and it's only because I know we have talked about this a few times. So, and I know we've got some language that um why I talked with Bob Butler who's a WASY attorney and I know you and Greg both have
041our Greg as well >> because I wanted to get some more clear language on this so we don't have this come up. But one of the things I think the first paragraph um after we had talked seemed to be fine. But where it is is the maximum compensation for a board member not attending a na national conference. I don't think anybody's really attended a national conference for years. Um I don't know why we just don't make that state because I think we get much more out of a state conference than we would a national. So I would look at maybe possibly changing that language. And then where the next paragraph went after that what he had thought we should look to add is board members shall receive reimbursement of actual lost earnings up to 200
042days up to the four days of the state convention. And then the next line um so you could take that school board members who attend a national conference we could take that completely out. Um, but school board members who serve on an interview committee to hired an administrator also you can put for the reimbursement actual lost earnings up to $200 a day. It doesn't interfere then with the max of the 5,000 where some folks if you're attending interviews, if you're attending conferences was putting you over. So I don't think we should look to change the max because by the lost earnings according to section 120.10 prime 4 is for the reimbursement for loss of earnings. That was my understanding from people that brought this up was it really was for people that had to get
043out of their job, right? >> Had to come to an interview, had to give up their wages to get out of their regular job to to come to do board business. >> Correct. And that was discouraging people who, you know, everybody's got financial commitments. You have a job, you need the money, and you cannot get out of that job. And you weren't getting paid, >> right? And the other recommendation, while we have done this in the past, he thought because we were, if we make changes, it's not in the best interest if a board member makes the motion, seconds the motion. And actually he said it wouldn't be didn't say we could vote not vote for it but he recommended that we would abstain from the vote. >> The problem is how do you vote
044on your own salaries? >> That that's a big issue. >> So I'm just putting that out there. Guess my only objection to that would be for example where I work I would get we have an unlimited amount of paid time off so I would feel guilty getting paid time off and then also having the district pay me those wages in a sense to me that's I would feel like I was double dipping you know because I'm getting paid time off and also getting reimbursed by the district the time that I'm getting paid if you get time paid off. >> Yeah, I I do. Yeah. Right. >> But not every person has that. >> But also then some people are retired. So then you're capping people who are retired >> that's me >> to not get
045paid because essentially they don't have >> Well, it would be up to $200. So >> yes, up to the $200. >> So it's either your actual wages or 200. >> Oh, it's or at least that's the way I interpreted what you said. >> Correct. So if you're retired, you're still getting paid >> or no? >> Yes. >> Well, yeah. >> You're getting paid because you're acting as a student. >> All right. I I thought you meant it was only getting paid for your lost wages. >> That's the concept of what's happening. But you're capping the lost wages in payments that you're saying, >> right? >> But someone's making $200 an hour. >> Oh. Oh, right. Exactly. >> Up to you're capping 200 m what you do, right? So make clear on that. Correct. >> Because
046otherwise the board would be an option of paying someone's wages outside the bas. So make sure you understand that. >> Y >> and this is still capped at 5,000 what outside of >> right unless the the loss of earnings does not include on that cap. >> Could you read read it through skip the first paragraph and then read what Bob Butler suggested? >> Okay. So the maximum compensation for score that's wouldn't change except the only verbiage I would take out is national conference. I I would think that we just put in state. >> Okay. >> Because most of I don't remember when anybody attended the last national conference. Um but it said board members shall receive reimbursement of actual lost earnings up to $200 a day up to the four days of the state convention.
047So instead of like you were getting a perdem if you're taking off of work to go to the state convention, it' be a loss of earnings of your up to the $200 a day. >> No different. Basically, we were getting the $200 per dean when you're attending. >> But if you're taking off of work, that's the difference. And that it's not allowed. That's not in that cap. It's not counting part of the cap of the 5,000. instead of us raising that cap. >> Okay. >> Does that make sense? >> Sort of. >> Yeah. I know. Believe me, the paragraphs and paragraphs he sent me to read. So, I'm like, you got to call me and go over this, Bob. >> But it's kind of weird because, you know, we hit that back set. What What
048month is it? >> So, then >> Well, you go from You said July. >> Mhm. Basically what this is doing is this is taking the state convention and >> putting it outside >> interview committees of the >> interview committees too my that's I think you said so it's taking the state convention and interview committees outside of the maximum >> right >> it's not fact >> right because you had some board members that were beyond their max because of outside conferences or things they were attending >> so they weren't they were not compensated >> the one thing too Dan I would consider adding to that language is if anybody goes to like a something to consider. Not that I need to complicate this, but if you go to like the legal legal conference, that might be
049a Friday, Saturday and you're missing a day of work on Friday. Are you falling back into that? >> Oh, I see what you're saying. >> So, so I guess my recommendation is if it's the desire to go, I would say any state level meeting. >> So, instead of the state convention, >> you understand what I'm saying? >> Yeah. Because realistically, there's a lot of meetings you could go to, right? Right. I mean, you really, if you wanted to go, >> theoretically, >> you could go all the time. >> If somebody's going all the time and we find out it's being quote unquote abused, then the conversation can come back to say, "All right, we're changing the motion on this, >> right?" But this should help alleviate some of that in that. So, all he recommended
050is because we're talking about changing that, um, this was something that he recommended as a language to put in place. I I don't think any of it can be it has to be a motion and it has to be agreed to >> this group this this rule >> it has to do so >> I mean obviously like you said we can revisit but how do we I mean somebody >> you have to revisit it at >> start going annual meeting >> annual right >> you set the board salary at an annual meeting >> correct >> so a year from now it would get revisited I think it's >> weird. >> Well, >> that doesn't mean though the board can't have the conversation about saying we aren't going to authorize you to go to this. >>
051I don't see that happening. >> Right. >> But if it were to happen, that is a conversation that could be had at the board level as well. >> Right. You might want to get Dan Doll involved participation award. >> I mean, any res, >> she'll hand you the paper >> word for word, word for word. >> I would I would Yeah, I I think the wording of this is a little cumbersome. So I think that the motion could just be like I agree with what I have said then we can work on >> the video is how we'll put the minutes together later. >> And I've got his verbiage on my email. So >> yeah. >> So I will make the motion to agree with Diane Gorman >> On the board salary >> and expense
052reimbursement. >> Yes. >> Do I have a second? >> I'll second. >> Second by Steve Kaiser. Um okay. Any discussion? Now, according to Diane, the board members are going to remain silent, but everybody in the audience are going to say whatever they want to say. >> You have to abate. Stay silent. That's You're still voting. >> Okay. Um, >> all those in favor of the motion, >> I. All those opposed, all those abstaining, which would be the nine board members. >> Diane, can you email me what he said? >> Yes. Yep. >> Jack, you got that? >> Try to articulate that. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. >> All right. Item 12, other um authorized business. This is a standing agenda for the purpose of bringing up any issues that occur from time. This agenda
053is posted at the time the meeting occurs. Anybody else got any items that they would like to discuss? Seeing none, we'll move on. Item 13, set date and time for the the um 2025 annual or 26 annual meeting for September 15, 2026 at 6:00 p.m. with the regular September school board meeting to follow at the Mosin High School 100 High Street, Mosin, Wisconsin. I'll make a motion to set 2026 annual meeting for September 15th, 2026 at 6 o'clock p.m. with the regular September board meeting to follow at Mosy High School, 1000 High Street, near Mosy, Wisconsin. >> Do I have a second? >> Second. Second by Steve Kaiser. Any discussion? >> I have a question. >> Yes. >> I'm sure we've discussed this previous annual meetings, but does it have to be in September? >>
054Uh, it does not have to be in September, but that's been the tradition. always seems like we're waiting for more data. I mean, >> well, the only Yeah. Well, >> later September because of the student council, >> right? I I think the student >> to that to that point, Kandra, um districts hold annual meetings all over the board. >> Okay. >> There are some districts that hold them in July. >> We used to hold ours in August. The bottom line is is really the annual meeting the the the levy and budget stuff >> is advisory only. The real decision is in the hands of the board in October. >> Sure. >> Um so you know your other option is you can do the annual meeting as part of the October board meeting and then turn
055around and >> the reason we used to do it in August is to get information out to people. That's why we did it to give people a rough idea. So they're not hearing rumors that this is going up, this is happening, this is going. So we can kind of inform people. >> Rod, you >> Well, it's kind of nice, I guess, to have that >> marathon Edgar Stratford or where Bradford was the fourth Monday in July. >> Yeah. And I think the state of the other ones >> if not Yeah. >> I mean, I'm fine, but >> Okay. >> Yeah. I don't care >> anymore. I like the fact that we're doing it before the record board meeting. >> Any more discussion? Okay. All those in favor say I. I. >> All those opposed? I
056>> motion carries. I will seek a motion to adjourn. >> Make a motion. >> Motion by Kaiser. >> Second by Hey, we need you here more often. >> Any more discussion? >> Okay. Do we have to do a roll call? >> Nope. All those in favor say I. >> I. All those opposed name.