001Come on. Here. Dian Gman, are you here? Zebra here. Don Kaiser here. Jessica Maple present. All right. Pledge of Allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Item number five of approval of the past minutes, April 15, 2025. April 28, 2025. Um, we're missing item three or I'm sorry, four. Oh, pardon me. Thank you. Approval of the agenda. I'll make the motion to approve. I'll second it. Okay. Motion by Gorman, second by Kaiser. Any discussion? Any additions? Everything good? All those in favor? I opposed. Motion passes. Okay. Item five, pardon me. Approval of the minutes. April 15th, 2025, April 28th, 2025. I'll make a motion to We have a motion by Zebra.
002I second. Second by Bower. Any discussion? Okay. Go ahead. The two new board members should abstain. Yep. 15th. Yep. So he shouldn't second that. I So if you're not at the meeting, our general policy has been for you to abstain from the meeting. No. Okay. So we Which one did he second? Okay. Which he can to you seconded? I made the motion. You made the motion. We might want a different second if we could get that. Okay. Okay. Second byowski. Okay. All those in favor say I. I. All those opposed. Epstein abscene. Okay. Um could be April 28th, 2025. I'll make a motion to motion by Gorman. I'll second. Second by Zebra. Any discussion? All those in favor say I. I. All those opposed. Motion carries. Special item six, special presentation. Special education presentation. All
003right. Oh, thank you. All right. Thank you guys. So, I'm just coming tonight to kind of Oh, okay. I just wanted to present. Um, so there's two times a year I come to you this time of year. So, one of the things we have in special education that isn't always wellnown, we have a report card just like the schools have a report card. Ours just comes out at a different time and ours has a different name. you know, we have to be unique. So, ours is the joint federal notification packet and this started coming out and it this was a federal guideline that states had to figure out a report card for special ed. So, back in 2018, they really put this together and there's two areas that we are evaluated on as a department.
004It's the compliance piece and results. And the compliance piece really focuses on how are we doing with our paperwork? Are we hitting our deadlines? Are we doing good evaluations that we're not over identifying kids or having disproportionality and looking at is one area of special education like SLD or EBD are we overqualifying in those areas? So, some of these areas of compliance that you will see are looked at once every 5 years because they're looked at in alignment with your self- evvaluation because every 5 years we go through a self assessment process that looks at how well we're writing IEPs. Are we meeting all the guidelines that the federal government has put in place for for us? So, as you can see, the ones that are there, um, just for your knowledge in not next
005school year, the school year after, this will be a very much more in-depth report because that's when we'll be going through self assessment. So, we're two years out. Um, and that's where Dee's here, too. So, thank you for giving her PST RO approval cuz she'll be a vital role in that process and working with me to make sure our paperwork is in alignment and we're ready for that process in 2 years. Um, but the areas that are really evaluate annually that you look up there. So, timely evaluations, we have a responsibility once we have consent to do our evaluations within 60 days. So this is annually uploaded to the state. They look at how well you are doing and meeting those timelines. Um the other next two are really just hey are you doing those
006are special reports depending on age level that we have to submit for each student that fall into that age grade level category. Then the last one is just are all of our other reports done on time and submitted to the state. The compliance piece, this is where on an annual basis they really look at how are we doing graduation and dropout rates, the state assessment. So we actually get scored twice on this. Was our participation rate and then how are our students performing on the state assessment. Then that last piece, what it means, that environmental placement, this federal government has really made a push to say, how are students with disabilities being included in the classroom and gain access to that tier one curriculum, then gain their SDI? So, you get scored on how many
007students are accessing the general education curriculum. And if you are pulling out too much and saying, "Nope, we're going to do something separate." Things like that. That's the environmental piece. They look at the code to say, "How much are you actually having students involved in the genet classroom?" Um, looking at our scores. So, this was one of the things when I actually first started in the district that I started looking at how are we doing? Um, and as you can see, compliance because the max points you can get for compliance is 14 points. So, we are pretty consistent in turning in paperwork, making sure we're doing those things, which is great. That's a baseline you really want to be good at cuz those to me, you're controlling your controllables and those are easy points for
008us to get. Um, as you can see, the max you can get for results is 16 points and we're hovering between that 9 to 11 points. So, that's some of the areas where we can make improvements. Um, so really looking at the results where we are losing some of our points. Um, right now our participation rate on our last our most recent report card, we were at a 76% participation rate of our students with disabilities taking the state assessment. So, one of the things we're really trying to work with families to help them understand by taking that assessment because, you know, they're like, are we stressing our students with disabilities out by taking that? But you think about it as we prepare them for postsecary. At the mill, you have to take a standardized assessment
009to get a job at the mill. There are different places that do that. You know, for us, yes, we want to see students do well, but we also want them to get that experience. So when they go to a job or they go to post-secary, that's not the first time they're taking a high stakes assessment because there is a routine and behavior to how do I take that assessment and think critically. So, we want to get that information out to say yes, it is your choice if you want to opt out, but let's think about long-term and what's the benefit of them taking and knowing their accommodations so they can advocate for them when they do have to take it at a later time in life depending on their job or their career path. Um,
010the other one too that we're losing some points on the state assessment, how we're performing. We are performing in many areas close or above the state average, but I think we can do better because right now one of the things I'm looking at and reading on a map, we're using a variety of different resources at each of the buildings. So, I'm trying to do work to get alignment K12 in those resources. Um, another one that I just want to let you know like we're fighting this across the state since this report card came out, the graduation rates. So, due to our numbers, you know, students with disabilities make up a small amount. Some of our students go to what's called Project Search, which is a vocational program where they go for a year, learn job
011skills, and that's what some of our students need. But even though they're still working towards their goals, they are counted as graduating in 5 years instead of four and that counts against us even though those are our students getting what they need. So it counts against our graduation rate and we as a state organization are trying to fight that with the state to say how do we work to communicate to the federal government. We're giving students what they need. So for me, I get that's why our graduation rate we lost some points every year is because we have students going to get what they need. And that's a knock right now until they change that rule. I'm willing to take that knock. I'm not going to stop providing services to what students need just to
012get that number up. Um, and then environmental codes, as I've talked to you at our last meeting, um, in instructional programs, we're working on that code teaching model and what that looks like to say, how are we working towards those environmental codes? And then the last piece here, these are just some of the things that I just talked about of how we're taking steps to make improvements. But for parents, like I said, I'm really hoping with parent teacher conferences next year to have some special ed learning sessions for families. Not just in education to this, but we also have confusion sometimes around, okay, my child has a medical disability. Do they qualify for an educational disability? What's the difference between the two? And how do we work through that? So, these are some of the
013things that are just going to help us work towards our specialed report card. questions. Thank you very much. Item seven, student board report that was given last gone. Thanks. Thank them. See them next year. Item eight is the public forum. First of all, thank you for everybody for coming. Public forum provides the public with the opportunity to ask questions about or address issues included on the schoolboard meeting agenda. General operating rules of the public forum will be determined by the board president once the number wishing to participate is identified. Any any I didn't have anything. Okay, takes care of that. Thank you. All right. Item nine, consent agenda. Is there anything that needs to be pulled out or did everything pass with consent? Everything pass consent. Okay. I will seek a motion then to accept
014the consent agenda. I'll make the motion. Motion by Kaiser. I'll second. Second by Nest. Any discussion? Okay. All those in favor say I. I. All those opposed. Motion carries. Item 10, discussion and possible decision approval of monthly voucher list. Any discussion? Okay, we're going to do a roll call vote. I will be abstaining from one of the checks which I said motion. I do a motion for it, please. Yep. I'll make a motion. Got a motion by desk. I'll second. Second by Gorman. Roll call vote. Yes. With one extension. I have that voted. Derrick Nest. Yes. Yes. Foreman. Yes. Andrew Zebra. Yes. Feeder. Yes. Jessica Maple. Yes. Megan Sowski. Yes. Okay, motion carries. Item 11, discussion and possible decision acceptance of monthly treasures report. Any discussion? I'll make a motion to approve. Got a motion
015by Gorman. I'll second. Second by Nest. Any discussion? Okay. Roll call vote. Derek Nest. Yes. David Bower. Yes. Dian Borman. Yes. Landra Zebro. Yes. Donna Kaiser, yes. Jessica Maple, yes. Megan Stinkowski, yes. Yes. Motion carries. Item 12, new business. Uh 121 discussion and possible uh decision on the 2526 calendar adjustment. Greg. Yeah, we uh with the move to the 188 day calendar from the 190 calendar 190day calendar, we had to make an adjustment to the school calendar for next year uh for two uh staff days. Uh it is administration's recommendation that we convert April 6th, uh which is more commonly probably referred to as Easter Monday. It was scheduled as an inservice day. Convert that to a no school day for uh staff as well as students. Uh and then uh possibly look at moving
016May 22nd to a half day for kids and a half day for staff. And then uh the staff would not have to return on May 26th for an inservice day. So those would be the two days that we would uh capture back to get to the 188 day calendar. Any discussion? Um the only question I I we try to get away from half days because I fear especially with the last day um parents working um kids going home to an empty house a lot of times parents will forget. Um so it was great um not to see the half days come back but if we have to I'm just forewarning that that could be an issue with well but but the parents again you know everybody's working they're going home to an empty house. How
017many years has it been since we have not done half days? Um, first year. It's our first year. First year. This is our first year. Greg, what is your opinion? It doesn't I don't think it really matters to administration. I think we just tried to find the least. Is there any intrusive days, right? Yeah, I like the full days. The half days are kind of Well, it could be confusing because we don't really do half days anymore, but it's also Labor Day weekend. Memorial Day weekend or Memorial, sorry, Memorial Day weekend, and a lot of people have their kids out for Memorial Day anyway. And that's the last day of school, right? Right. So, that would be kind of a special, right? like the last day of school and it's our only half day of
018the year, right? The only half day we have in the calendar, right? Yep. Yep. I think that parents could probably make it well take a lot of communication on administration's part in March, April, and May with all the uh weekly or monthly newsletters that go out by each building. Uh we can also include it in the link, that last issue of the link, too. I'm Skyers. Yeah. Okay. Mhm. I'm seeking a motion. I'll make a motion. We have a motion to approve the 2526 calendar adjustment by Nest. Second. Second by Bower. Any more discussion? Okay. All those in favor say I. I. All those opposed. Motion carries. Item 12.2 discussion and possible decision process to fill the vacant board seat. Correct. Obviously, we have a vacant board seat. Uh so uh the first step in
019the process is the board needs to decide if you wish to fill it. There's no rule or law that you have to uh it's just the the v the seat can sit vacant until the next election. Um uh in which case then the person the interested individual would run uh on the belief that they would finish out the remainder of that term and then go on be back on the normal cycle of when that seat is up for reelection. or the board can uh decide to fill it. Uh so I have included attachment here that is the process to fill the board vacancy uh to basically if we scroll down a little bit further. There you go. A little further. There you go. The basic premises of filling it is we would advertise it uh
020uh on different uh mediums probably you know word of mouth. It says social media uh probably put it in the paper. um you know, social media is probably the most effective way of doing it right now. Uh leave it open for however long the board decides. Uh the individuals need to submit a letter of uh interest or a notice of interest and then the board has the right to interview all interested candidates. Um and then uh from there, so I have been a part of this process before. So uh if the board decides to fill it, I can if you request I can provide some insight in how I've done this in the past. U but uh it's up to the board how they want to move this forward. And this is an atlarge seat.
021Correct. So I mean it's not a specific area um where the person has to be from. Correct. And if I'm not mistaken, have we ever not filled the board vacancy? Not that I recall. No, I don't. We've had vacancies. We've had to interview and go through the process and we've always filled them. Correct. Okay. So this particular seat has one year left. So the person would have to run again if they so choose to. It'd be a one year. It' be a one year term. They would be appointed and then they could run it a one-year term as an incumbent and then they'd have to return if they desired the next year again. So they end up running two years in a row. I believe you only have one year left, right, Kandra? So they'd
022have to run in April to fill that last year and then they run again the next April for a three-year term. And Kandra resigned on April 15th, the last board day. She resigned the 27th, the day before the reorg. Oh, okay. Okay. So then technically we have just a little over a month to fill it. Mhm. Right. So I mean if Yeah. 60 days. So 28th. So theoretically, if you would do a timeline and said, "Let's fill it." Um I have to get to a calendar here. My recommendation would be today's the 20th. Um I would probably say you would uh post it through I don't know the well the next board meeting is the 17th. Correct. No. Yeah. 17th. Okay. So you could close the the uh whatever by the 12th. close the the
023application period on the the 11th and then as we release board packets on the 12th, we could have the information of the candidates that expressed interest to you in your board packet on the 12th and we could interview the night of the 17th and make the selection. I mean, I've done it where we've interviewed that's how the meeting started is we interviewed candidates, made the selection, swore them in, and then they actually sat that night at the at the meeting or you could hold a special meeting to do it as well. How long typically take? Not long. I mean, you know, it's not like it's a I've when I've done it, it's it's typically three or four questions. It's not like it's an elaborate you're interviewing for a job. We're going to sit here for
024an hour and grill you 20 questions. Well, there's been many times we people run unopposed. We don't always get a lot of interest. Mhm. I mean, it is such a wonderful paid job. Um any I I would we would seek a motion if you wanted either yes to fill it would be the motion. I make a motion to Kaiser has made the motion to fill it by appointment. I'll second that. We have second by Zebra. Any extend the 60 days if we wanted to add another 30 to it or is that I think would you have to change the policy? You can't change the correct time with the policy and then if it went past that 60 days then the board president has the right to appoint and not I mean I've had been a
025part of that process too where went past the 60 days and the board president appointed somebody. I think our board has always voted and done the appointment. I think that's what we we should stay. The only uh question I would have on that motion is is timeline. Are you like what kind of timeline are you looking at? Are you you know kind of following what I recommended or do you want a different timeline like I was the what you recommend I think that's what you meant or your recommendation June 11th I think it's depends upon the number of applicants you get maybe you'll get a few um but then if the intention is then you can have them like you said sworn in um as the meeting starts um otherwise depending on how long the
026when would we do the interviews because if our committee meetings start at 5 we're thinking like 4:00 or no what we would pro well technically the interviews happen in open session So it could be the first agenda item on the agenda 17th or whatever 18th, whatever that day is. So yeah, we would start that at 6:00. We do interviews, take however long it would take, and then we'd make the decision. The vote has to be done in open session. The vote, it cannot be secretive. Uh it cannot be secret ballot. It has to be publicly reviewed or or you have to say it out loud. And we'd have to tell all the applicants realize that that night you're going to become a board member. to to Jessica's point, if there gets to be a point
027where, you know, we we get by the 6th of June, I have eight applicants sitting on my desk, maybe then we look and say, "Hey, maybe we need to hold it hold it off and have a special meeting on like the 19th or something like that." Even if you have four or five, and I'm just saying that because some people have work schedules that are planned out two to three weeks ahead of time where we can't flex and be here at 1500. Well, if there's four applicants and each takes 10 minutes, I mean, that's an extra 40 minutes already. Yeah, you're right. This could be we may have to it would be depending the applicants. We may have to have a special board. Do we have to decide that within the motion or can we
028discuss that? I don't think you could. The only I would ask, well to Jessica's point, it might be nice to know when we're going to do the interviews cuz that way as they submitted their application, I could say to them, please hold June X open at X time for the interview process. That's the only reason I would say that, Kandra, is that way I can communicate that personally. I guess it doesn't really matter to me. It's really hard to have a special board meeting, especially in the summer. I plan on being here. I mean, if if you're at the regular board meeting would probably be the best time to do it. Unless we get this massive amount. I don't think we've ever had that, have we? No. No. If we can get two, three applicants,
029that would be great. What's included on the application? Nothing. We just submit a letter and that's there's no questions. Is that something we can put out ahead of time just to get a sense? I don't think we need to. No, it says the Yeah. All it says they need to do is submit a letter. Yep. And then at some point, uh, we'll obviously have to develop question, interview questions. Um, you know, I probably could dig some out from previous lives, uh, and have a handful and then send them out to you guys to get your opinion or, you know, never know what chat GBT can come up with as well. So, does your motion go along with this timeline? Yes. Okay. And your second is your second goes along with it. Okay. Any more discussion?
030All those in favor say I. I. All those opposed? I one of op. Okay. Motion carries. Item 12.3 discussion and possible decision uh high school math curriculum. I'm the guy that asked him to bring this back. Um and the reason I did that is um our discussions last time were about the legality of DEI if we'd lose funding. And at the end of April, there were three federal court cases where the ruling was made that the executive orders were ruled unconstitutional and illegal. And that was a big discussion of ours if we lose our funding. They were done by here I've got the court cases. They were done by US District Judge in New Hampshire, US District Judge in Maryland, and a US District Judge in Washington DC. Three separate judges ruled it unconstitutional. And
031that was a big part of our discussion about why we weren't going to go with this curriculum. And I wanted to know if there was any interest in us possibly looking at what we're going to do with that curriculum. I guess the only thing I I look at is we've always governed by Robert's rule stating that usually the the party that prevails is one that we're bringing back. You be more president that could be, you know, there's always it's never a law. So, you can bring items back. It's just that you could also be creating future issues. Um, the only part that of this I don't like is the fact there was no information in our board packet about some of the concerns that were raised. Um, I'm not comfortable making a decision based on
032not seeing anything and just hearing about it tonight. I mean, this is a big part. It's a curriculum and I I think that we should make sure that all of the items that were concerned with the curriculum committee in the past that brought it forward are addressed and and then look to even bring it back at a future date. But to try to approve it tonight, what you might get is fine. But I I cannot approve something. I'm just tonight. Didn't ask for approval. I just asked for for discussion of it. Right. But but it's posted as post as discussion in decision. Right. I did ask Greg. Greg contacted the uh Wisconsin Association School Board to get a ruling on this and what you're stating is if it happens during the same meeting if you
033No, no, we've done this in the past. You got the ruling from the school board. No, I know, but in the past as the board sad, you know, you could have items come back every month if somebody votes no on something and decides, well, I lost. I'm going to bring it back next month. You know, you're you're going to have reoccurring item constantly coming back and forth. I won't bring up everything, but you just don't you want to try to send continuity with the board. So, it's I just think that not having the information in in her packet tonight is it it should have been in there. It should have been included. There should have been attachments. I mean, we can discuss it, but to make a decision, you know, as it's posted, I'm just
034telling you what my No, I agree. I respect your opinion. I just asked to put it back because our big obstacle with this was that we were wondering if funding we asked many administrators how much funding we would lose if there was a potential a lot of board members were concerned about it. Where is that information? Where is that information that administrators were asked about that? Where's that? I asked during the meeting. Where's I asked you about how much funding we lose. It was in the meeting. I asked remember the audience about how much money we lose in the funding. You're saying the in the meeting two months ago. Two months ago. during that meeting and that was a concern that we discussed and now we were all wondering would we lose funding and so
035now that we've had court rulings that say no you won't lose funding I thought it would be a good time for us to possibly bring it back but aren't those cases under appeal no there have been no appeal to the Supreme Court from them yet yeah and that's that happened in April 24th yeah that's not that far I'm just But a big part of the decision was made about that we were thought we were going to lose funding. Well, there were other concerns as well. I guess for me what Diane had mentioned, I mean, I feel like it sets a really, you know, a precedent if we just going to make a decision on something and then at any point anybody can just bring it back and we can just revote on it if we
036didn't like the answer. I'm not saying, you know, yes or no. to the math curriculum. But the way that you know we're going about this doesn't feel like but that is that's our policy. That is it's not a policy that is you have that right. So anytime anybody can bring any Robert's rules and it goes by Robert's rules then the prevailing side can bring it back not the descent. That's only in the exact meeting in that meeting but you can bring it back. Craig you want to send that from the lawyer. I do have a legal opinion, Jessica, that said it can come back and please share with all of us on that. Absolutely. If if it's the meeting, so if we have a meeting and I voted no on something that didn't pass and
037I'm in the majority and all of a sudden some new information is out, I can bring it back if I was in the majority during that meeting. Anybody can bring any item any month to the board and it can happen any time. It's correct. That's an and we don't have Kevin I mean we can have a discussion. We don't have to right here in the card that the prevailing side can only bring it back. That's only for that meeting according to the legal opinion. That's not what that says. I'm just saying I'm just saying that's not that's only in that meeting as per the legal opinion I have from the schoolboard association. Okay. Then just please share that with I am sending it right now. Well, the thing that bothered me is we really set
038a precedent when we had five teachers spend a lot of time looking at things to pilot them. We never got a chance to really talk about the curriculum. We spent more time talking about if we were going to lose our funding because of issues that weren't even related to the curriculum. I felt matter of fact, I called the company. I talked to uh what's her name? uh one the vice president about what's going on with this DEI and she I think she thought I was from Mars. Um Ebony Jones her name was and I'm I'm just saying that I was worried that we'd lose curriculum our money for that and all of a sudden now I found out that it's not thought it'd be a good time to discuss it. Yeah. I would just add
039that I think we voted no on the and I attended the meeting. We voted no on the curriculum because of the DEI. Correct. Like we didn't vote on it didn't seem like there was a vote specifically on the curriculum. Nope. And that's where I mean that's where I I feel like the situation a little bit different but it's also because it's based on common core and common core is not very successful. I feel like it would be helpful to get more knowledge on the actual curriculum because even I felt um that I didn't understand when Rob was explaining I didn't understand I I don't know anything about math curriculum I and when you're talking about having the information when that came up I did not have any of that information either. So, I agree. We
040should have all have been privy to that information that it was coming back. Um, and you know, perhaps a more lengthy explanation informing us of what it actually is would be helpful. I know teachers put a lot of time into it, but we don't know what we don't know. So, if they could explain it and vote from there. Well, I think yes, I think it would be helpful to see because once we didn't approve it, you know, what have we done since that vote to move forward? Number one. Number two, what other examples are out there? What other school districts are using and what have found that they've been very useful or successful with this program? You know, we don't want to just say yes to a program on no information presented tonight and go
041forward. It would be nice to see all of these things addressed. Are Diane, are you suggesting that we put it on the June agenda? I I would say yes. Do you want a motion to postpone to June? I I would I would respectfully ask that if the desire is to put this on the motion, Mr. McCarti and some staff are here. I would prefer to just do the presentation right now and then we can talk about it again next month. Just not make a decision. If you don't want to make a decision, I mean, I'm not going to tell you to make a decision or not to make a decision. I'm just saying there are people here that have brought forward for this purpose. So I would like to at least give them the opportunity
042to present what they have that they worked on over the last Are you ready? Go ahead. You guys would like Go ahead. Is that okay with everybody? Yes. Yes. Okay. Um so what I was asked to do is just I guess recreate the backdrop of why this was brought forward. Um, one thing that that I thought was was ignored the first time around was um why we started looking at curriculum in the first place. Um, I I think up here one thing is what we were using was very out of date. Um, in fact, it it was over 9 years older than the new standards that the state adopted. Um, so it uh it was actually archived by the company that created it. Um, you can kind of see uh that orange box is the
043rating of the curriculum that we were using of Engaged New York which turned into Eureka. Um, it it because it was outdated to the current standards. [Music] um you can see it wasn't expecting the same of what our students should have been expected to do. And and I I I would argue that that is probably the a strong correlation to to you see the last four years minus um the anomaly of our strong senior class we have right now. We saw our math scores dipping four years in a row. um when you look at our math growth, it was dipping at an even more significant rate, meaning um our students from their freshman to junior year weren't growing. Um and I I think you can attribute that to using a curriculum that wasn't expecting the
044same standard that the test was expecting our students to achieve at. Um and so they weren't being pushed um to the level that they should have been. Um, one of the the draws to illustrative math is um, according to data collected by Math Institute of Wisconsin, uh, 85% of the schools that have adopted it over a three-year period of time um, saw growth in their students moving from prof uh, basic to proficient or proficient to advanced. Um and the average number is about 6.9% increase for every student. Um so there is a success rate. Um the the top math school in uh Wisconsin, Whitefish Bay, uses this. Um so it is being used by successful schools. Um and that's just the context of why the curriculum conversation around math at the high school started in
045the first place. Um this was shared with you. I I just shared it back. Um this is the timeline. Uh the the process that was went through. Um the math department got together to talk about where were the holes in our curriculum, where were the shortfalls, uh created a rubric, identified materials that they wanted to look at. Um they evaluated those materials. um after evaluating all of the materials, these are the ones that were initially evaluated. So, Engaged New York was the the current one. Um Illustrative Math from the publisher Kendall Hunt. Um it is important to note Illustrative Math is an opensource curriculum um that multiple publishers have grabbed. Um and so we are looking at the Kendall Hunt version of illustrative map. Uh we looked at CPM um and we looked at HMH
046into AGA. Uh and you can see um illustrative math and HMA both outscored uh the other two pretty significantly. Um one of the major differences um into the two curriculums um on the surface level is illustrative of math. While it has add-ons you can pay for, the base is free. Uh it it is open source from nonprofits um that gives access to schools uh that curriculum at at no cost. You can add on additional costs if you choose. Um HMH uh does not have a free version. It it does operate on the paid subscription model of either digital license or consumables uh for for your students. Um after that process, illustrative math was chosen uh to pilot and approved for a pilot. It was piloted um in algebra 1 fully um and algebra 2 took
047pieces of the lessons and tried them out too to make sure that it wasn't just good in algebra 1, but that they they saw it as well. in November. Uh at that time they had just finished up their first unit and our math department wanted to make sure you know did we make the right choice? Like we're a month in, we've experienced this, we've tried it. Now that we've actually dug in, let's let's make sure and let's look at some other materials. So we contacted um both math institute of Wisconsin um and our CISA 9 math expert um or specialist and he gave us these two as the next best two he felt for us to look at. And so we also then sat down on a day and looked at envision math by Savas
048and Reveal Math by McGra Hill. After looking at that um reveal math uh we felt did not meet the standard for what we wanted um and we did not think it was a quality curriculum for us. Envision we thought had some really positive elements. Um it had a lot of extra support almost too much like bells and whistles that sorting through would have been probably pretty difficult. Um the its digital platform was really strong. Uh but some of the major cons were navigation of that digital platform was not easy especially on the the students end. Um because even after looking at the materials our team was interested enough that they scheduled a demo to get a walk through with the rep just to see like maybe this is something we should look at. Um but
049once they got a look at it especially on the student end it wasn't very easy to navigate that digital platform. Um, the other difficult piece that our team did not like is all of the illustrative math materials are available in Microsoft Word options. So, they can edit. None of these materials were editable. They would have to manipulate all of them. So, if they wanted to specialize an assignment, they would have to go in and snip and edit. Um, so that that piece for a teacher to be able to create a lesson that they wanted um outside of the script that Savas gives was was more difficult. Um, and then uh it it was just ve the the problems themselves were very wordheavy, lacked strong realworld contextual problems. Um and so we didn't think that it
050had the same level of critical thinking component that we saw with the luster of math. Um so after that uh that is when they chose IM as as their preferred program. Um and that led to uh the initial proposal to you guys in February. As far as the timeline goes if if I'm not mistaken when I called they are totally linked with Wisconsin math standards. They are aligned. Yes, totally. All right. So, just some a basic conclusion from our team of why they prefer Illustrative Math over the five different resources that they looked at. Um, their digital platform is easy to navigate. Resources are easy for teachers to adapt to be able to meet the needs of all their students. The level of rigor is very high, but there is also a strong component of
051support for struggling learners to be able to be in the exact same math class and still get something out of that. Um, while also providing strong critical thinking and problem solving components. Um, and so it it's it's a program that we feel all students are really having access to learning math and engaging in math. Um, another thing that that I find to be in out of the ones that I looked at, this was the strongest and most transparent as far as resources for both students and families. Um, it's 100% free. There's a family sections that that parents can go to, click on, see everything for every unit, how to support your kids, what was taught today, what was important, videos to support your kids. Uh parents can go into the student portal at any time
052and look at the student uh what was taught today, what the the sample problems were. Um and they can even see the base level of the teacher side. there's there's another level of teacher side that you need to log in, but you can see everything to be able to support your child in their math journey. Um, through our first year of of pilot, um, our our teachers have seen an increase in local achievement in their classroom using local results in comparison of where students were in algebra a year ago compared to where they are moving through this curriculum in the first one. Um, I mentioned the proven results in schools that have adopted We really felt that this is out of the five or six that we've looked at the best curriculum. Um it it's
053free, it's aligned um to the resources that were updated here in Wisconsin in 2021. Um and that's just kind of the overview. Um one thing I I would just show you that so if you wanted to look yourself, this is the website uh im.kendallhunt.com. If you go to uh the high school, you can launch this. And so all of this is free. So if you wanted to see what a student lesson looks like, you can click on algebra 1, you can click on any of this um and you can click on the lesson um and you can look at it. Uh the same would be true of the family portal. Uh so if a family wanted to see what their child was doing in algebra, there's family support materials for every unit that's provided. Um
054so I just wanted to show you the website so uh you could take a look if you had any further questions or wanted to research what a lesson would look like, um what's available to families. Uh another component is is this um curriculum is gaining enough momentum um and support that Khan Academy has now fully aligned their algebra 1 units to a separate illustrative mathematics. So, this is just another free resource that our students and families and teachers can use um that allows a very personalized approach to our students growth through math. Um so, this would align exactly to what is going on in our classrooms. Um students can work on their own if they're struggling in an area. It's an area for extra help. Um and uh it's just another free resource that now
055has attached itself to this curriculum that would only further support um student growth. So and and we have a teacher, Mr. Shups, here. You were one of the people that piloted, correct? Yes, I piloted. You want to make any comments? Year. Um, a lot of what Tom just showed in his presentation, he and I worked together on, so I don't have a lot to add, but I said I'd very be very willing to answer questions, but I can tell you I would not be at this board meeting if I did not feel strongly about this curriculum. So, all right, quick question, too. So, this is we just looked at this at the high school level. This obviously would I mean long-term vision this would roll out to the middle school and the elementary school or
056the same platform or do they not have that or do they have it? Yes. Um but I I think another piece of this conversation is um at the high school level algebra is algebra geometry is geomet and it has been right that what algebra looks like hasn't changed much the level to which we expect students to understand and problem solve is different. So, we could adopt this at the high school and it doesn't mean you have to adopt it K8. Um, we we feel that this would be a strong program for our high school regardless of what curriculum is being used below algebra. T, you mentioned that there were some additional costs if needed. What What part could we run into where we might need that additional? Well, I if if we if a district
057were to choose, and some do, you could order like a consumable student workbook instead of using the digital version. Um, and that would be at a cost. Or you can simply choose to print the ones you're using, do digital. Um, that that would be a local cost versus paying Kendall Hunt for the consumables. Um, right now I make photo copies. So, we don't buy the workbook, we make photo copies. You could buy the the teachers edition um but again it's available digitally um you could buy professional development from Kendall Hunt um but not necessary or forced for Is that for the staff? Yeah, it would be for teacher training. Um thanks. What was the cost of the other curriculums? What was the range? Uh the the one that we looked at initially, the HMH, um
058it was uh I believe it was $27 a student for the digital license. Um and somewhere between 13 and 17 for the consumable if you were to order that. Um I was not per student. Yeah, I did not see quotes from the two we looked at in November. I only was involved on the demo side of things. Are there other questions? Yes. So, Brian, if you can answer, have you had eyes on this to see if this is helpful and compatible? Um, it can be tailored for special education children. So, DDU is here, she's the co-teer of the algebra class, and it has been able to for our students with disabilities to have access. So, we can make adjustments to make sure we're still me SDI minutes and kids are accessing it within the class,
059but I'll let Dee add any additional information, but she's the one co-eing that. Yeah. So, the curriculum itself has strategies built in to the curriculum for low-level learners so that you're able to teach at a lower level and not trying to come up with them on your own. I think they give you some ideas of things that you can adapt the curriculum to so that you're still teaching that baseline still the same information just maybe a lower level but then on the opposite end it has those same strategies built in for advanced learners so it has those built in you have your core curriculum but then the things built right into it uh Tom just one more question you said you saw success with their school districts is there a way to kind of see
060that they've been using it for years some of these averages and what they've increased to since we've been seeing such a drop in ours. So this the spreadsheet that was shared with me from Wasawa Matt or Wisconsin math institute it had every district that they knew that had adopted it for a minimum of three years and so that's where that 85% so of those 85% of the school districts saw an increase from their previous results to year three of implementation. The average increase was about 7% in somewhere like 7 to 8% increase per student in their achievement scores. Other questions? Not a question, just a comment. I'm not a teacher. I'm not an admin. I trust our schooly. Thank you for your work. I will make a motion to approve approve the IM curriculum. Is
061there a second? I will second it. Second. Motion by Stanowski. Second by Kaiser. Any discussion? Yeah, Dave had a question. Oh, sorry, Dave. I just wanted to ask you, you said it had adaptive strategies for both the lowlevel and the highle learners. The folks Okay, I just wanted to make sure I had heard that. Thank you. I'm just going to add that I'm not going to vote for it tonight just because I'd like to go in and research some of these components that were brought up some from the curriculum committee previously. I understand. Just to I mean to go through my understanding of it too. So, our scores have continued to drop and we've fallen behind. Our students like this, our teachers approve of it. They're on board with it. Um, our team support it.
062Um, and if we don't do this, we've obviously explored other options because is there an alternative? Well, your alternatives would be to either go back to the drawing board and consider doing something that's going to be a which it sounds like I mean, we've gone through the hoops. We've explored the other options or you're going to continue down the path you're on right now with the curriculum. Is us having our scores continue to One of my concerns with this was our math department has spent a great deal of time and if we can entrust them to teach our kids, I think we can entrust them to pick the curriculum that would suit our students the best. That was my concern. My only hesitation as before was is if we were going to lose our funding
063and to me that seems to be gone. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like this checks a lot of boxes as far as being able to advance what our overall mission should be for the math department. Any other discussions? Okay. Uh, can we get a roll call vote, please? Absolutely. Hi. Gorman, no. Zebra, no. Donna Kaiser, yes. Jessica Maple, no. Megan Stinkowski? Yes. Yes. Derek West. Yes. Motion carries. Item 124, discussion. Uh 2425, membership audit results. Greg. Yeah, this is just a discussion. Uh we went through uh you get randomly selected by DPI every so many years to do a membership audit. This was our year to go through the membership audit. So, as a result of that, uh we did it. we were off by one student, which when you're counting, 1850 kids, one student is
064not exactly a large number. And it had to do with they were in a different situation. Um, so it doesn't impact anything with us uh in terms of funding because it's well within the margin of error, you could say, in the three-year rolling average. So, a lot of credit goes to Carrie and Rod for Carrie does a lot of work, is is very, uh, good at the counting, and then Rod uh, helped oversee the audit. So, those two did a great job on this. We need no motion. It's just a discussion. Correct. It's just the results. them for all their hard work. Great job. Thank you. All right. Item 12.5, uh, discussion of possible decision, revision of board policy 0167.3, public comments at board meeting. Again, this is me. I'm at the city council meeting.
065And um, I had about five people come up to me and say, "Why is the school board doing something different than the city and every other municipality that you represent?" So, at the city meeting, there are two clipboards in the back of the room. When you get there, you sign your name, your address, and do you want to speak on an agenda item or do you want to speak on a non agenda item? And so, that's their way of having the public speak. You don't have to fill out an electronic form. You don't have to do anything. You just come there. If you are not of a resident, you are not allowed to speak. You have to sometimes prove that, but there is no prior approval needed. I got lambbasted by three people that said,
066"Why can't I go to a school board meeting and talk about something and I have to wait till it's on the agenda?" So, that's the discussion I'd like to have. I don't know what your feelings are. Well, I think my feelings and that are in my mind the reasons might be is that um you know parents or teachers, community members should go through the proper chain of command if they have an issue with something. That would be I guess my concern. And at that point, you know, if it's not been addressed, you know, you know, Greg, I'm sure would handle it. But but right now they can do that now. They just have to fill out the issue is some of them were elderly. They didn't want to fill out the electronic form. You know,
067I'm not so much opposed to that. I even when when Bernie Kramer spoke, he came over my house, I helped them fill it out, right? I mean, it was very difficult for him to fill out. I think that part, you know, the timing of filling out the form doesn't really concern me. But what I'm saying is anybody coming to speak on any topic could there's still limits. They can't personally attack anybody. They get three minutes. Although we know they don't sign up ahead of time. Well, that that is a little bit just to echo off what Clander saying, it is a little bit difficult to stop somebody in the middle of con, you know, you don't want to ever blindside your administrators and have or any staff member publicly and it's very difficult to shut
068somebody down because then it looks like you're trying to curtail what they're saying or cut them off and you don't know what. So, I think if they're the online form if that's difficult, we can look at that. But I I think it's fair to our administrative staff to make sure that was handled properly. it did follow the proper chain and it could it be addressed before it even comes to the board because this is a meeting of the board first. I mean, we're like we're doing it in public, but this is a meeting of the school board. Greg, what are your feelings on this? Um, I've been involved in all parts of this. Um, you know, I guess I would say it's up to the board to decide how you want to handle that. I
069mean, I've seen the uh this is the first district I've been at where there's a requirement to sign up online. I've been involved in uh a district that doesn't require has you sign up at the time and you don't have to say speak anything on the agenda. I was on a board of a technical college where they had to speak on agenda items only. So, I've seen it in both occasions. Um, you know, the biggest thing is is if people come to speak, uh, you know, if it's not on the agenda, well, number one, you don't answer them either way. If they have, you know, you just refer to committee, refer to a future agenda item or refer to administration to answer or you just don't do anything. Um, just to comment on that, one
070of the things every township does in city, they make it noted that if it's not an agenda item, we are not commenting on it. And even if it's an agenda item, you don't have to necessarily comment on it. you just comment on it when you get to that agenda item. So, I mean, if you're asking me my opinion, uh I would just say whatever the board decides is what we'll do. Well, and to bank on um Paul's comment about the townships. Now, when I went to the townships um to the meetings, um I got to the meeting and I talked to the chairman and I said, "May I speak at the meeting that was on the referendum item?" And um they said, "Yep, you have this much time or you have this much." And um
071so both townships were the same as long as I came and I told them what I was speaking on, I was allowed to have whatever their limit time was 34 minutes. Your township, that's why I asked it before the meeting. I researched everyone we represent Nolton, everybody does it this way. They have a clipboard or something to sign up in the back and then you can speak. And almost every one of them has an agenda item or a non-aggenda item. Matter of fact, most of them welcome people to come and speak. Well, and I don't think the board would really turn anyone away if they showed up and wanted to speak. I mean, I'm sure if it got out of control, but has that ever happened? Have you turned anyone away? We've had this happen
072three times where there were people that filled out the form and it never got to us and they were like, I guess I got denied and they didn't get denied. We never got the form. It we went from when we switched secretaries, it was going to her email. It sounds like it's more the online discrepancy then, which I don't think anybody has an issue with. No. And could there be two parts of this like, oh, you know, maybe we look at our we look at that process we don't have to make a decision. I just want to, like I said, I went to the my brother's mayor. I went to the city thing and they're looking at why do you do it differently? Why can't I speak? And I'm like, I couldn't answer that. I
073said, I don't know why. Well, and it might be a little different too in our setting because of, you know, let's say you're a parent and you have a concern, you know what I mean? that chain of command might look a little differently here than it does in a township. I I like to decisions like this. I like to try to break these down into segments. So to me, you have two segments to decide. The first segment you need to decide is do you want to make people sign up in advance or can they sign up when they get here? Right? That's the first to me that's the first question you need to answer. The second question then you need to answer is can they talk on anything or can they only talk on agenda
074items. So from my lens, you have two decisions to make and then policy can be adjusted or policy doesn't have to be adjusted if you say we love it the way it is. I'm not trying to lead you anywhere on this conversation. I'm just saying to me there's two conversations with which we the two decisions that need to be made to direct where we're going in the future with this. Yeah, I agree with that. Thoughts, discussion? If somebody wants to make a motion, I'll take that. I'll make a motion to remove the online um submission requirement and keep everything the same. I was going to make two separate. Okay, that's fine. Well, in this case, Megan, I think we can make one motion. I'm just saying that the board needs to Well, we can make
075it in two separate ones. That probably be easiest. That would be So, we have a motion to remove the online portion of the public form. I see. We have a second from this. Any discussion? Do you want to possibly because you had to bring back the policy. Yeah, we we're going to have to add theoretically. Yeah, theoretically you could almost not even necessarily make a decision tonight, but provide me guidance of how you want me to bring the policy back because the policy has to go through a formal reading anyway versus it's not like tonight this is going into play for next month. We have to amend the policy first. Do you want to amend your motion or I'll amend it to um to remove the online portion and then pending policy approval approval at
076future meeting. Right. And do you still want a second? Yeah. Okay. We have a motion to amend the policy to remove the online and then prior approval from the superintendent with a policy change. We have a second. Any discussion? Okay. All those in favor say I. I. All those opposed. Motion carries. All right. Administrative item. Do you want Well, just is there a discussion on the second half of this? Well, or you leave it the same. Or you can leave it the same. That's the I mean, I'm just saying what does the second part mean? I mean, the second part is this. So, right now, Donnie, your policy states that you can only speak on an agenda item. So, they fill out the form. name, address, what agenda item are you speaking on? Some boards
077say you can come and speak on anything as long as it's not a personal attack on a on a a staff member, an employee or student. You get into confidentiality issues. So the second half of this conversation or decision needs to be are we making a decision that they can talk on anything or are we saying no, it has to be only on an agenda item. So that that is the second right now it's only on an agenda item. But is there some way you can incorporate that? It can be but it cannot be personal, can't be involve a teacher, can't be I'm pretty sure that's in policy that way and you can write that. Yeah. And it's it's basically it's it's against the law. Well, not against the law. It's you can't be done
078in open sessions, right? Well, couldn't you make sure that we attach our policy link to the public forum section of the board so people can Yes, I think if you're doing it on a clipboard, then it should be there. I think to Diane's point, it's key to remember that this is a meeting of the board because technically we shouldn't even be engaging in the audience. Correct. Um, however, we have been um but that's not a good practice. So I think it helps to make sure that you're sticking with the agenda, but then if people have other concerns outside of that, they go through um up through uh administration or what have you. That should be a good practice that we have been using in the last few years and it has been working. Yeah. To
079your point where I've seen it done before is the policy is there in one of those plastic Yeah. things. So the policy is right above that and then if somebody signs up the board president says just a reminder, you can't That's got to be part of the speech like we do now. And you are not allowed to do this. There's 3 minutes. I will cut you off. Y and if you get mad at me, that's your choice. Yeah. So anyway, I digress for the second half. Do we have a motion? I guess I would just make a and then we can discuss and how we're going. But I would just make a motion to direct staff to revise the policy to open it up to any um items outside of the including the agenda and
080outside of it. We have a motion to include items on the agenda and outside of the agenda. I'll second that. We have a second discussion with the premise that it has to be. Yeah, that's policy. Following along with the other guidelines. That's in policy. Yes. Who's the second? Megan. Any more discussion? Okay. All those in favor say I. I. All those opposed. I I think I'm going to do a roll call vote just to make sure. Oh my god. Diane, no. Donna, yes. Jessica, no. Yes. Paul, yes. Derek, yes. David, yes. Motion carries. Okay. Item 13, administrative reports. I just wanted to touch on a couple things uh in my report. Uh I'll let you read on the building project stuff. Uh things are progressing along. First bid pack is out. Second bid pack is
081getting ready to go out and then the final one uh will be coming out soon. Um so things are going to start picking up here uh pretty soon. The other thing I really wanted to just draw your attention to is the groundbreaking date. Um, I'm pretty open on this, but we have to get something on the books pretty soon so we can start getting it out. My recommendation would be to tie it into another event we're already doing at the school like open house. So, you don't have to do groundbreaking when before the ground is broken and you don't have to wait until it's broken to do it. It's you're basically putting a shovel in the ground and throwing it 6 in. So, um, the matter is is do you want to, you know, I,
082like I said, in the past when I've done groundbreings and ribbon cutings, we've tried to cut have it be a part of another event so you can have a reason for people to attend. I think that's wonderful. Okay. So, I'll I'll continue plugging along with that. I just wanted to let you give you a little update on on the on the budget. Um, we're roughly $350,000 in the red right now, but I want everybody to understand that's not uncommon this time of year. So, we don't need to panic. We are fine. Um, we are still in a good spot, but I just wanted to give you an update uh on where we are. We have a couple big things left that are going to impact it. Obviously, we have to finish hiring. Um, which is
083going to have a swing on it and and and and uh uh health insurance uh selections. Uh whether or not they take health insurance or not is a and then the other thing is what the state does um for this. So, I'm not concerned about where we are at all. And then I just wanted to touch on the last two things and I have a booklet. So thank you Brad for running upstairs. I forgot to bring these down with me. Uh we went and did a site visit May 1st. We went to White Hall and leave a strum. Both schools are deeply involved in personalized learning with the use of computer programming along an AI concept uh to engage kids. Uh it is phenomenal work. I've been involved with those two individuals for a number
084of years having these conversations. Uh we're actually doing piloting some of that in our building right now to some success. Um so we actually are part of a group called Liftoffs. Uh so I'll pass this out to you. It's a uh it's a consortium of schools that are just kind of looking at a way a different way to approach teaching and learning today as as the brains of kids are different from the brain our brains and development of our brains. Um so we're going to so I just I'll give you a copy of these afterward. They're just kind of the promotional materials of liftoffs and and we're really excited about it. We're actually going to be taking our CTE department back to Whiteall and Olivia Strom on Tuesday. Uh Whiteall has an amazing innovation center
085that's uh industry 4.0. They got kids that are programming mini autonomous tractors, Mars rovers, uh drones, things like that. So, yeah, we're going to go take bring our take our CT department and go take a look at that and then leave a strong if you're anywhere close to involved in this concept. uh uh leave a strum runs cardinal manufacturing which is one of the most well-known in the country concepts around that. So we're going to go talk with them about how they do that with our CT department as we move and we're working very closely with Mia Shmeil Mosin grad Mosine resident who works at CISA 9 on all of this. [Music] Awesome. Any other administrative reports that we need to hear? Could could I just get verification for graduation? And I have um Mr.
086Bower, Donna Kaiser, Paul. Is anybody else planning on attending just so we have it correct? Okay. Thank you. I I do want to add I went to the greenhouse. I'm very impressed. I think it was fantastic. Yeah, very I checked out. So, it was so nice to see that the money that we spent to upgrade it is finally being used properly. So, plans and they have a ton of ideas for next year on how to make it better. And what a great community. And I think if I'm not mistaken, we're looking at going back to the city to possibly do the city basket. That would be awesome. So that would be awesome. Fantastic. Okay. And if we're not, I just basically force the student. Thanks for the notification. Um any other administrative reports? Okay. Item
08714, other reports. 14.1 the um lawby report. Well, there is an upcoming event um actually um it's in Stevens Point this year. So July 11th and 12th at the summer learning symposium, practical solutions to real issues. So you can um Is that at the holiday end? Yeah, at the holiday end. So, if you're interested, Green Bay, it's July 11th and 12th. And it does say the save the date for the convention, January 21st through the 23rd on the flyer. So, if you have an interest in going to that the the thing Steve's point, just let Jackie know uh and we can get you registered for that. I'm assuming we aren't going to need hotels since it's down the road. So, if you want to go, just shoot Jackie an email uh and we'll get you
088uh signed up for it. Anything else, Glenn? That is all I have. Thank you very much. Item 14.2 season 9. Okay. Um Al Betry his contract was renewed for two more years. So Al will Betry will still be the season 9 administrator. Um Rinlander Apprentice, Three Lakes, and Elco all passed their referendums in April. So, um I know I know two of the administrators and they didn't pass in November, but they did pass now uh in April. Were those capital or No, they were pretty sure. Yeah. Uh Kitty Guyire, a lot of different ones know Kitty, too. And she did not run for Well, she did run for reelection, but she did not win. And so, um, she was thanked for her thanked for her years on this on the CISA board. Um, let's see.
089Um, Terry Palin was recognized for special education and, um, for her innovative ways of working with the different um, school districts in special ed. and um Marathon um uh did uh hire a new superintendent and so that was also something that was shared in the CISA news. So, thank you. That's it. Thank you very much. Item 15, future agenda items. Yeah, I forgot to put that on there, so I apologize. Uh what we typically have in in June is uh annual WA membership. Um the employee handbook is typically on there, but we talked about during our uh uh personnel committee uh that we're going to maybe look at the employee handbook in June and then bring it back in July for approval. So that'll probably get bumped down a month. Uh and then we just
090have to approve transfers to zero out accounts and approval of of preliminary budgets. And then the uh the admin team will update you kind of on what our June inservice days were like and then update you on uh uh opportunity we have in late June to go as an admin team on a a retreat that DPI is funding. So we're going to be able to go on a opportunity to work with DPI and more or less ourselves to plan out some of these. No, we are going to Land of Lakes. Yeah. Um, any items for board members? I just also wanted to comment, sorry, Paul, that we are also administratively doing a book study on the anxious generation. Oh, good. How's that? Uh, we are going to start Well, they just got the books. Part
091of our retreat up there is going to be having that conversation about the book. Awesome. Is there any board members any items that you would like to see on the agenda? any not at the moment. Okay. Thank you. All right. We will move into close executive session on 16. We will discuss section 19.85. Consider employment promotion compensation performance evaluation data of any public employee. Um we will talk about support staff letters of intent, support staff compensation, and island staff letters of intent. With that, we'll take a fiveminut break and come back. Roll call vote. No, you need a motion. Motion. Thank you. I'll make the motion. Motion by Gorman. I'll second. Second by Zebra. And I think we do a roll call vote. 25. We'll go with zebra first. The real zero. Jessica. Yes. Take
092it.