001Why don't we go ahead and get started. Today is May 18th and this is the Joint City Schools Subcommittee meeting. We have Chair Anderson, Vice Chair Nolan, Councilman Chapman, and we have our City Manager and our Superintendent here as well. and then an array of staff on both sides. All right, so at this point, why don't we go ahead and begin our agenda item, our singular agenda item is COVID-19 updates. I don't know how we wanna do this. Do you wanna superintendent go first and then city manager and then we'll go like that? Does that make sense? Superintendent's looking concerned. So you want the city manager to go first, Mr. Dr. Hutchins? No, I can go first. All right, go for it. Go for it. He was saying I had this on the gallery. So
002I was looking over at him. All right. You want to go first, Mark? He's right next to me like normal. I wish you were here with me, Mark. Well, maybe not necessarily in the house with me, but. We can have the meeting at your house next time if you'd like. We just can only have 10 of us there. You can ask and you're six feet away. Dr. Hutchins, you're up. So just a couple of updates for us. This Friday, we're going to be issuing our summer learning plan for this summer. And specifically, some of the key areas that I think are going to be pertinent for all of our families is the fact that, you know, this is going to be an opt-out option for our families, because we know that so many of our
003students have been impacted with the schools being closed and academic loss is real, regardless of whether you have been in tuned or engaged in some of the Zooms and other things that we have going on during this period of time, it's still not a replication of face-to-face. in our classrooms. So it's going to be very important that we extend the summer learning experiences with our families. There will be a better plan that you all will be able to see and understand what that looks like. We're not trying to replicate what summer learning typically looks like, just like we can't replicate what face-to-face looks like at this time with our continuity of learning plan 2.0. But I think it will be very helpful for our families and it will be very flexible, especially being that the
004summer is still unpredictable and uncertain. So we're going to keep working through that. Another point that I want to make, because this has been coming up from just some of our community members and we've been sharing this out with them, that we are going to share in late June our contingency plans for reopening our schools. And one key point in this particular area is the fact that we're going to have to have multiple scenarios for opening our schools because it's still uncertain. Like tomorrow's uncertain. September's definitely uncertain, you know? we're looking at five different possibilities. And one is just the traditional opening, meaning the doors open like our traditional opening of school, which most likely won't happen. Two being some kind of a hybrid approach where students might come to school for a certain period
005of time and then they're home for a certain period of time and then they might come back to school for a certain period of time, then they're home doing online learning, but showing a scenario that can potentially look like that. And then the third option is potentially going to a similar situation that we're in now where we're 100% online and distance learning from home. And then we're also looking at a potential situation if we open and then we have to close again. And then we're also looking at some other hybrid of all four of those options that I just mentioned, just so we can have multiple. scenarios in how to tackle this. You know, I think that some of our school divisions in the area, they are posting ideas and thoughts that they have around
006what the fall might look like. The state superintendent has really asked us not to do that right now because it's so uncertain. And even when you look at the governor's reopening kind of like plans, schools are not a part of phase one or phase two yet. So, you know, the state superintendent is just asking us. to hold back a little bit, even though our communities are begging and wanting to know what's going to go on, that we just not jump the gun too quickly because there is a task force with the Virginia Department of Education that's working with the governor's office, it's working with our health departments, like the state health department, to determine what are going to be some implications that we're going to need to consider in these guidelines so that everybody's consistent.
007And, you know, even in this region, and these are conversations that were having with our region superintendents, that we're going to have to make sure. we're not just going out by ourselves with the reopening piece because our teachers in all of our regions live in all different cities. So they can all be impacted with the decisions that we make, similar to what we do with our snow days. We are working collaboratively, meaning the region superintendents are working collaboratively to just make sure that we're in sync with our planning and that we are trying to make sure that we don't have one city opening up in August, another in September, and another maybe in October or something crazy like that. We're trying to make sure that we are all on the same page because our decisions
008do impact each other's organizations. So the final thing before we pass things over or answer any questions that you all may have, we have provided over 200,000 meals for our students, which is something that is, you know, since our doors closed back on March 13th. And we are continuing to provide, you know, additional distribution sites and mobile sites as needed. and our essential staff, they are still working in our buildings doing a remarkable job with our cleaning practices that are happening because now they're having to learn some of these new cleaning practices due to COVID-19, as well as some of the temperature screenings that are happening to keep our meal distribution sites up and running and safe and healthy. So all of this is happening with our essential staff members that I just wanted to
009give a shout out to them and to thank them for their hard work because they have been, you know, working this hard since, you know, March 16th, literally, and we just appreciate their efforts. So any questions that you all have, may have? Thank you, Dr. Hutchins. Let me first of all just thank you for... for the way you guys have been communicating the public and continuing to kind of keep folks updated on the various different options that will be discussed and when they will be discussed. And I think it's been good that folks know. They know there's a great amount of uncertainty, but at least they have a good picture of when these discussions will happen. And I especially want to thank you guys for your commitment on the food efforts. I know those have
010been kicked in. from the very beginning and we appreciate you sticking with it and continuing those operations. And I know a lot of your employees have been a big part of that. I appreciate that. Let me ask a quick question before we turn it over to Mr. Jenks and if anybody else has any other questions. So normally this time of year we're talking about some of the summer facility work that you guys have scheduled. And I know we have a normal stack of projects that we're doing in our buildings over the summer. Can you talk to us a little bit about what was already regularly scheduled that's going to be happening, but then also some of the stuff that might be changed and tweaked as a result of COVID and kind of what that looks
011like right now. Yes. And I'll also send, I'll forward to you all a board brief that we just recently gave to the board as an update, but we're going to be doing our facilities update this Friday. Or was it last Friday? I can't Susan I can't remember was it last Friday or this Friday the facilities we had a facilities update but we will have a maintenance update this week got it okay um is that my mic is that him or me Can you hear me? Yeah. There we are. Okay. All right. Now you're back. Try it again. Let me make sure my network is up because sometimes, you know, around this time of day, everybody starts acting a little because everybody's on. Yeah. It's not the e-learning that bogs down my home broadband. It's the
012stuff that happens after the e-learning that's bogging down the home broadband. All over there having Zoom parties. Yeah, if you guys just kept the e-learning going 24 hours a day around here, we wouldn't have a problem. So I'm just saying. So we provided a facilities update last Friday to the board that we'll share with you. And what I was saying was that the target, the priority one. the priority one projects that came out of our targeted facilities assessment conducted this past fall. They are still happening this summer. We wanted to ensure that those priority one items, because those were items that were time sensitive, that could, you know, lead to further safety concerns or issues in regards to the school division. All of those are on schedule. We also shared with the board that, you
013know, some of our projects due to, you know, delays with materials and things that are happening, not just to ACPS. I'm sure you're experiencing some of that as well. That is kind of causing some of our projects to take a little longer, but not necessarily at this point. We're not saying that they're not going to be. But we are having to wait for some of the materials to come in due to just with, you know, shipping and different companies having, you know, a shortage of employers and workers. And that does have an impact on us. But at this time, we do not have any projects that are not going to happen on schedule as to date, you know, to date as of right now. Things could change in the future, but right now we are
014on schedule. We are also working with... Our procurement director, just to ensure that we are getting ahead of a lot of those procurements that need to occur so that a lot of the work can get done. Our team has looked through specific items that they could do now versus later. And we have provided just recently. with the city, just some of the that are not going to be available because we are trying to work on some contingency plans for like, you know, if we needed to open our schools for like extended care or things of that nature at a later time, we wanted to make sure that we were already ahead with knowing what buildings won't be available because construction is happening and it won't be safe for kids, of course, to be in them
015or adults to be in them. But what I will do is forward. the memo to the city manager and he can share with the team just so that you all can see fully the list of all of the projects and their progress because it is that specific in the actual memo. That would be great. All right. Any other questions for Dr. Hutchins at this point? Okay. Let me turn it over to Mr. Jenks. And then I know we have Dr. Herring on here as well, so we want to work him into this, but let's start with Mr. Jenks. Okay, well, it's been busy the last couple of months. We've had to undertake things and set policies in areas where we never thought we would have to before. The good news is our PPE, we're finally
016kind of a bit of a sigh of relief. We've got enough deliveries. and got enough stuff coming in that we think we're fine on that front. Still, as Dr. Harry can follow on later, our case numbers are not coming down. 14 days in a row to meet the magic measurement of being ready to go out of phase zero on the 29th. Testing has been increasing. Number of sites, neighborhood health did a test on Saturday of 260 people. BDH and the city are partnering for Memorial Day for two sites in the city where there will be over 2,000 tests. I think the governor said today 3,000 tests in Alexandria that day. We'll take as many as we can put through. So that's kind of on the health side of things. On the providing assistance, the council
017approved on... last week. Three new programs, rent assistance, to which actually applications will start tomorrow, food assistance, which will cover about six months worth of food, mostly food cards for families in need, and small business grants. That small businesses, two to 50 employees, grants up to 20,000, focused primarily on what businesses need to spend to reopen. managing the phase in. I read somebody else saying today that managing the phase in is 10 times harder than actually closing down was. because closing down was you here, you're closed, simple. Phasing in has got all sorts of nuances, all sorts of choices, some gray areas. So we're working through what that means. The good news is we had plenty of interest in people wanting to spend money in Old Town over the weekend. The bad news was half
018of them came without masks. We had some challenges with restaurant alcohol sales, and we will be dealing with that in the ABC. So we're going to work through what this Memorial Day weekend look like and how we should change our tactics and plans and communication. We're also working right now on planning for the next phase and what does phase back in of government services look like. And that primary focus is protecting staff, protecting the public, and what do we need to put in place to do that. So a lot to do that's coming. week, we probably will be rolling out an announcement of cancellations for the summer of certain programs and events where we don't know what, we're going to have the city birthday party in mid-July. We don't know what's going to be in
019mid-July, but we pretty sure know that getting 30,000 people in the same place is not a good idea in mid-July. So some things are pretty obvious, and in some cases, we're just going to have to go month by month. to determine what's going to be provided or what is not. Dr. Herring, do you want to add? Yes, thank you. As Mr. Jinks said, our numbers are not coming down as we're needing to see. We do know that this is going to be a long, bumpy road. We've been saying that, and I'll continue to say it. When you look at models, the numbers could go up, but then there's also information out about how even as different communities start to open, that a lot of people don't come out wisely, especially those who are at high
020risk. Very wise for them not to return and come back out to the old normal. There is some question as to whether warm weather might actually modulate the degree of spread. And there's just a whole lot of, we know that when we're looking at the numbers, we're actually probably two, maybe three, and some say even as many as five weeks. behind in terms of the transmission, because there is the asymptomatic transmission or the transmission among people who don't know that they're sick. The health department's been doing a whole lot of things. Most recently, really looking at Northern Virginia metrics, spent a big part of Saturday working with my colleagues across the Northern Virginia, as well as the commissioner and deputy commissioners, telling them the metrics that we're needing. I would like to thank ACPS again
021for the nurses that they have shared with us. Halftime, I think, is either 8 or 12, but it's not an insignificant number in terms of what they're able to do for us with regards to case investigation and some limited contact tracing. A quick update on the Teen Wellness Center. Previously, we were seeing maybe two, three patients a day, youth age 12 to 19. That's increased to about eight to 10. So the word is getting out and the youth are still seeking services there. That's non-COVID related services. It's mostly to do with family planning and sexually transmitted infections. We are looking at a telemedicine app for the Teen Wellness Center, and two of our staff from the Teen Wellness Center have actually been deployed to help us respond to the pandemic. We are also bringing on
022a health educator who actually starts with us, I believe, next week. And then, as Mr. Jing said, we'll be doing community testing. It's actually a contractor who will be doing community testing at two different sites. next Monday on Memorial Day. And there is a team at the city that is considering where these sites will be and appreciating any support that we might be asking of ACPS with regards to that. So that's pretty much my brief summary. Dr. Herring, thank you for that update. And Mr. Jenks, thank you for your update as well. Let me ask a question here, and maybe I'm calling on you to speculate a little broader than you're prepared to do right now. But Dr. Herring, if you can talk, I mean, we are obviously nationally, but certainly in the Commonwealth, we
023are staffing up significantly around contract chasing and, you know, like you said, there really need sites to put all those folks. But I'm curious if in a COVID world, what is the integration of that contact tracing, that surveillance effort that we're going to need to put in place until we have full immunity among the population? What is that going to look like in a school environment? I mean, is there a possibility that we're going to have a situation where we're going to want personnel in every school building that are doing kind of regular tests? And what does that look like from your perspective? It's kind of the questions actually goes in a couple different ways. In terms of the contact tracing, it's very similar to what we do for many communicable diseases. And tuberculosis is
024the classic in that you have the one person who's sick and you're identifying everybody who's been a close contact and different illnesses have different. identifications or requirements according to the virus or according to the disease about who gets notified that they've been a contact to a disease. So that being said, part of what I've been seeing, and I've not looked closely for the guidance for returning to school, but I've glanced at some things. And some of the things they're asking are things that I know the schools are already considering, and that is, how do you limit the students from... intermingling with the whole large student body. You know, how do you actually, when you're bringing students back, how do you keep certain classrooms together? And previously, maybe students were going every which way through the
025day, but limiting that because that way, if a student gets ill, there's less chance that they have close contacts with the entire school body and potentially only. perhaps a classroom or two classrooms. So things like that are the things that they will be considering as we get closer. Does that answer your question? Yeah, I think so. I think that answers my question. It's just, yeah, it strikes me as this is going to be a new presence that we're going to have to have. Because like you said in the past, I remember you guys briefing at the Quality of Life Committee, was it a year or two ago, about a TB outbreak we had had? Yes. And how you kind of isolated and did all that testing and all that. But it sounds like this is
026going to be a much, the timeliness and presence of this kind of response is going to need to be. much more magnified than it was. Yeah. And I'll tell you what, one of the strengths that we have here in Alexandria, and I brag about this, even though I have nothing to brag about personally, professionally, that we have school nurses in all the schools and they have these really close relationships with the families. And when we've done contact tracing before, you know, beyond TB. We are very successful because the school nurses do a lot of that. They call up and the parents already know who's calling. And, you know, they recognize the voice or they're quickly identified and they have that trust that is so essential in working through a communicable disease. And so that's not
027to say they can do it all because there's so much to it, particularly if it's going on in multiple locations at once. Other questions for Dr. Herring? All right. Mr. Jinks, can you, maybe you and Dr. Hutchins, talk a little bit about, I know you've continued to do some work on the financial side of this and the CARES Act money and where that's all going to land. Can you talk a little bit about what that looks like on both sides? Sure. On the city side, federal CARES grant provided $3.3 billion to the state. We did not get an allocation. None of the Virginia localities did a dollar amount until last Tuesday. However, we... took the chance that we were getting a sizable amount, didn't know the amount. And so for the last six weeks, we've
028been working on the food assistance, rent assistance, and small business programs. So we were ready to roll when we were told the amount. So we got $13.9 million that covers those three programs and with about a $4 to $5 million to cover basically the city out-of-pocket costs that we've incurred. since this whole event started, whether it was sheltering the homeless at a hotel, whether it was buying PPE. We've racked up expenses just addressing this. We'll be able to get reimbursed. The state only allocated half of the amount available. They said local governments, you set aside Fairfax County, they got an automatic $200 million. There was a million three. available to the rest of Virginia. We thought the state didn't say that until today. The Secretary of Finance was in front of one of the money
029committees in Richmond and said that the local allocation, half it was provided and the other half, my guess would be early fall. They wait to the special session of the General Assembly to provide it and how it gets allocated, whether it's by case numbers or by spend down of the first amount or per capita like the first amount was allocated. We don't know yet, but the good news is we now explicitly have on the record the state saying there's going to be an equal amount statewide anyway provided to localities when we get in the fall. So our job is to implement the programs. There's some skepticism at the state level that localities could actually spend this money down. because our out-of-pocket COVID expenses have not been anywhere near that. But clearly, fortunately, the federal government
030came with very few regulations. A lot of FAQs have come out of the Treasury Department. And localities have asked questions. What about rent assistance? What about food assistance? And the feds have said, amazingly, green-lighted anything that was COVID-related. So we're on the right path. We've got the programs up. started with housing up and running tomorrow. And we're hoping to spend that money down and be standing and waiting and showing the state that yes, we can put this money to work in the city so we can do it quickly. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Jenks. Dr. Hutchins, do you want to jump in on that from the financial side from ACPS? Yes. So we also receive CARES Act funding as well in ACPS. So we're slated to receive a little over $3.6 million. And specifically, we
031are focusing on four specific areas because there are some guidelines that come along with the CARES Act funding. One in particular is the fact that It's a one time, you know, funding. So it's not something that, you know, it's going to allow us to have each year. It's not some things that we try to things that we want sustainable. We may not want to use funding for this. Another is it has to relate to some of the funding situations that deal with or that relate to COVID-19. So we're looking at four specific areas that we have. been budgeted for some of the challenges that COVID-19. Sorry, did I accidentally push mute? Can you hear me now? All right, those four areas. Yeah, we lost you there. Those four areas relate to tech services because, as
032you know, there are additional technology requirements and needs that our students as well as our staff are having with this distance learning. So tech services is one specific area that we're focusing on for the CARES Act. The other deals with curriculum and instruction. So our learning activities, our educational resources, things that are in addition to what we typically do. for our day-to-day or our typical, which we don't know what typical is anymore now in regards to schooling. Meal distribution is another area of focus for us because we are not typically providing meal stations and meals the way that we are now with packing them, having distribution sites, mobile sites, people, you know, they are to do temperature screenings, all those things to keep those operations working. efficiently and effectively that we're going to need to
033make sure that we are allocating some dollars from this Care Act's funding to that. And then the other deals with educational facilities. There are a number of things that we are going to have to do moving forward to address kind of our new normal in regards to COVID-19. So that's additional soap dispensers and antibacterial stations throughout our buildings. How do we do social distancing? We're going to have to accommodate our buildings so that those things are possible and those cost dollars to be able to do in certain situations. So we are working through how. to to best allocate those fundings uh for those areas okay thank you uh thank you very much for that um i think miss no one did you have a did you have a question yes thank you so much um
034mayor wilson um so thank you so much um mr drinks for everything you and your team are doing it's been really phenomenal and the partnership between both city and staff has been really commendable during this time. In that vein, you were mentioning the rental assistance and some other things that you'll be doing for citizens. I'm assuming that we in ACPS are going to support those efforts by communicating that out to our parents, but I just thought it might be a good opportunity to just learn like what is going to be the communication partnership so that we're getting the information out there. And then my second question was, I was curious about is the food distribution Dr. Hutchings going to be continuing during the summer? months as well. So sort of a two part question. Well,
035in the first part, I don't know specifically what the staff plans are. I'll double check with them when I get off the call in regards to school channels of communication. But clearly, they've been particularly working with a lot of the helping organizations of the community because we wanted to make sure this message gets out. I could say the applications are going to be bunched together and then we're going to deal with the neediest first. And that's going to be the criteria. It's not who gets in at 8 a.m. tomorrow morning. It's going to be after a couple of weeks of taking applications, who are the folks who need it the most. So we've got, it isn't urgent that people apply tomorrow, but we'll make sure that we give the schools the information they need to
036send out. Thank you. And I know that Dr. Crawford, she can elaborate a little more on the rental piece in regards to our families. Dr. Crawford. Good evening, everyone. Yes, thank you, Dr. Hutchings. I just wanted to add on to that that as a part of our partnership, we have different senior leaders who serve on the city committees. And one area that I serve on is the planning meeting that happens Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. And so through that partnership, I've been working with Linda O'Dell and different city members to get the rental assistance program information out and looking for ways that we can. get that communication out. In fact, today during our student services meeting, we reviewed some of the information and we'll get it out to our student support teams so that they can
037reach out to their families directly. We're also looking at how can we assist the city, whether that's making calls or just channeling out some of the information ourselves. So we'll use our primary Department of Student Services staff members, but then getting it into the hands of principals as well as our SSTs to connect with families directly. Thank you. And Ms. Nolan, in regards to your second question, yes, we will be providing summer meals as well. That is our plan right now to continue to provide that. The VDOE has encouraged school divisions to continue. We are able to submit the spring applications that we did for meals. We're able to use that same template for the summer as well. So they are accommodating school divisions so that we're able to keep. this going because kids are
038still going to need to be fed over the summer months. And the reason why we have in our allocations as meal distribution for the CARES Act funding, because typically we don't man our cafeterias the way we're manning our meal distribution sites in order to work. And that is going to be additional costs in regards to the school division that we're going to have to take on. to keep these things going, which we want to do for our students. But we also have to understand that their fees that come along with this, because typically we have students purchasing meals to offset our meal costs. Of course, that's not happening right now because we're not selling any meals to anyone. And we don't plan to sell any meals to anyone. So we will have to make sure
039that we're taking on those costs. Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Hodgins. Let me just say, you know, Vice Chair Nolan's question was dead on. And, you know, I've already heard about a number of examples where school staff, our teachers themselves, our counselors and support staff have been working to get families in touch with some of the services that we have available. And obviously, as we expand how we're going to be using those CARES Act dollars and try to make sure that we benefit the maximum number of folks who are in need, I think we're going to need that partnership even more. Because I think one of our goals, and the council talked about this at the last. Our last meeting, you know, one of our goals is trying to ensure that a lot of our
040families that were have been left out of some of the direct assistance that came out of the CARES Act for a variety of different reasons. We want to make sure that they benefit from the locally administered funds that we have. And in a lot of cases, those are families that we may not even be aware of, or at least we may not be aware of their direct need, but the schools are probably more equipped to know about that need. And so we're going to that partnership is going to be even more important during this this phase. We're going to count on you guys to help us be aware of that need. And, you know, I've had informal messages from folks who were teaching in different different different parts of ACPS who have kind of let
041me know about some of that need. But I think we're going to make sure we formalize those so that we can maximize the benefit out to the community. So I'm glad to hear that's already happening and we got more to go. Great, Mr. Chapman. A huge shout out. I was going to say a huge shout out to Kate Garvey too, because she is in the know as well as to resources that we can provide. And we're in constant communication with our teams and also our staffs on both ends, meaning the city and the schools are in constant communication around those additional resources that are out there for our families. So thank Kate as well as the city for all the resources that our community really has, which is huge because every city can't say they
042have these additional services for their families. Okay, Mr Chapman. Yeah, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Question for the city manager. And I think this goes along with what the superintendent was just talking about. In my recent memory, I remember that the city used to apply for kind of summer food grants. I think it was usually for maybe our camps or activities during the summer. Two questions for the manager. Did we apply for that stuff for this summer? And would, those grant monies be something that ACPS could use in terms of doing some work with food and giving food out? That's a good question. I believe that we did apply. What we can use the money for now, I don't have the answer right away, but I'll make sure I get it to you. Okay. Any other
043questions? Vice Chair Nolan. Yes, thank you. Again, this one also is for Mr. Jenks. It'd be phenomenal to, as we're approaching budget season right now, you know, oftentimes we hear as a school board, you know, people trying to compare the city versus the school staff. And sometimes it's not always the most accurate information. And so just to learn from you as you're going through your own budget process as well, I'm curious about, you know, or do you have any impact to staff salaries? during this time and if not like I'm just curious like did you do any best practices because that's something that's going to you know just bubble up during our time and I'm wondering if there's any best practices or any scenarios you're going through that we could either learn from or just
044have as knowledge in case people present us with misinformation as a school board. Okay well two ways of I guess answer the question first during this crisis We're paying our employees, the ones we're acquiring to come to work at a city worksite, at a patrol car, at a fire station, or at a desk in DCHS, we're paying them an additional $4 an hour. Other jurisdictions in the D.C. area generally, at least the major jurisdictions, Fairfax set aside, but Arlington, Loudoun, Montgomery have done something similar. Although I think our $4 is that nobody's gone higher than that. That will phase out as we phase out of the crisis. That's not permanent. That's only for people who get paid $70,000 a year less as their base salary. Because I thought management... get paid to manage and they're
045still doing that. In regards to as of July 1, our pay basically, our merits, there will be no merit increases in fiscal 21. And the pay enhancements for the general pay scale and the public safety scales, those got zeroed out of the budget. So basically it's... probably other than a few needed reclassifications when if we see we have turnover, excessive turnover, we've got to do something, we basically frozen salaries for next year. Okay. Other questions for anyone? For Mr. Jinks, Dr. Hutchins, or Dr. Herring, or any other doctors? Anybody who wants to be a doctor? All right. I think that's our city doctor. Speaking of vacancies. No, I very much appreciate the support everybody in the city is providing. I echo Vice Chair Nolan's earlier comments. I think the cooperation between city and schools has
046been exemplary during this period. I think everyone's come together in a crisis to no barriers between any organizations in this mode, which is great. And I think everybody's working to achieve the same ends, which is very good. So we've got a lot of work ahead of us, but it's been a really good partnership so far. All right. Unless we have any other comments or contributions, we will call it a month. Now, we're going to meet again in June. Is that right? And then we do not meet again until September. Correct? That's correct. Okay. It's hard to tell days different these days. I don't even know how we'll tell months apart. So the summer, I guess, will be different in some way, shape, or form. So I would say the kids are out of school, but,
047you know. All right. All right. I think that's it. Thanks, everyone. Stay safe. Thank you.