HCCS Work Session - June 8, 2026

001Good evening, everyone, and welcome to the June 8, 2026, Lane County Community Schools School Board Trustees work session. I will turn it over to Mr. Brimberry. Thank you, Mr. Allen. I want to thank those of you who showed up tonight. I always like it when we see some of our students here, so that's a good night for us, especially in summertime like this. So you guys deserve, like, extra treats or something tonight, wouldn't you think? I want to remind our public who is watching tonight, work sessions are non-action board meetings, which means we kind of get in-depth on some of the items. It's more discussions back and forth, and it's for us to process and maybe get a little further depth prior to any action item in the future. So I appreciate all of you

002being here tonight. Our first item, I'm going to let Mr. Jay Peters introduce on item A1. Hey, Jay, hold on one second. Is Mr. Wall available? Yes, I'm here. Oh, fantastic. Go ahead, Jay. Thank you, Mr. Brimberry. We're excited to share with you some special guests that we have here this evening. Let me introduce to you our Andrews 5th grade teacher, Tori Neal, our elementary PD coordinator, Lauren Hogue, and I've got some special students, Sawyer Hogue, Rhett Nix, Colt Kalita, and Holden Bullinger are here to present a project, a high-ability mural project. They did a great job. So proud of them. So excited that they can come and share their work with you tonight in our work session. Hello, everyone. So I was blessed to have taught in a self-contained high ability classroom for 13

003years before coming to Huntington. And then when I came to Huntington, I started serving on the high ability committee here. And moving into my new role this year, I became the coordinator for the high ability program. And Ms. Neal took my place as the Andrews representative. And so through all of my work, I've become so passionate about high ability students. And I was so blessed to have my own kiddo who is a high ability student and in Ms. Neal's classroom. And this year, Our committee has been getting together and really prioritizing. quality products and assignments, projects, if you will, for high ability students that our teachers can use across the district. So as a parent, when I saw some of the things Ms. Neal was working on for her classroom, I thought this is exactly

004what we need to be doing as an entire district. And so we used the project that she's going to tell you about and the boys are going to talk to you about tonight as kind of our inspiration for the district. And we've created high ability projects for grades two through five. there's one for every single quarter that encompasses for English or for ELA. There's multiple for math, but ELA was our big project this year. And there's one per quarter that encompasses all of the standards that the students in each grade level work on throughout that quarter. So that gives our high ability students just... the ability to really be enriched and use all of the knowledge that they have and just extend their learning. So I'll let Ms. Neal talk to you about the project.

005Alright, hi, like Lauren said I'm Miss Neal and the project that we're talking about today is going over the first quarter of the school year and is aligned with a lot of those literature standards such as theme inferring summarizing skills of that nature and I knew that I had several high ability students in my classroom as well as students in the other classroom that were high ability and maybe didn't benefit from the constant repeated instruction that some of our other students still need and deserve in the classroom. And so when I was looking at how to develop this project, I knew a couple of things about high ability students that I wanted to incorporate into this project. And that had a lot to do with community-based learning, especially with rural students. high ability students, it's

006really important to get them engaged with their community and developing a sense of self. And so we looked at how these skills can transfer to a community and helping these students develop that. And so that's kind of where we came to the project, where they would come up with questions to ask different students at the school, make sure all stories were represented, identify themes. and find ways to represent this in a mural that they worked with a local artist to create. I knew that I wanted to make sure that parents were involved as well, so you can see up there that I included a parent letter that just kind of described this. And I knew that this kind of project is exactly what these students needed to really develop their skills but see the applicability

007outside of the classroom. So they did all the hard work on it, but then they were able to present this. They put together a proposal, and we invited their families, several community members, several board members, and they were able to present it and get this going. And that's really what I have. The design of the mural was all about representing Andrews Elementary and making sure we included things that were important and meaningful to all of us, the kids and the teachers. One thing I put in this mural is the smiley faces in the background of the kid helping his friend up. This shows positivity is always there and around when you need it. Something else I included were the signs of positivity, like the bright sky. And you can notice the peace signs above the

008boys showing unity and, well, peace. The red cardinal in the big tree represents Andrew's cardinals. We hosted a shoe drive and partnered with... Funds 20 Orcs. This organization sends new and gently used shoes to third world countries, many in Africa and Haiti. We asked for donations across the district and our groups met every morning after arriving at school to count and organize shoes. Our fundraiser was very successful. We collected 4,600 shoes and raised $931.20 toward our project. Our pickleball tournament was a big success. The event was hosted on Saturday, April 18th at the Parkview Huntington YMCA. With help from our parents, we organized registrations, sponsors, tournament brackets, and concessions. Many of us participated in the tournament as well. It was exciting to see members of our community come together for friendly competition while supporting our

009project. We had 20 teams register across four divisions with players of different ages and skill levels. One of the best parts was seeing experienced players helping young and newer players learn the rules and improve throughout the morning. Everyone had fun and many of us even got to try something new. Through this experience, we learned how much planning, teamwork, and flexibility it takes to organize a successful fundraising event. Most importantly, we raised between $800 and $900 to help support our mural project. Thank you to all the people and businesses that donated to our project. And also thank you to America for making this event possible. America invited Angie's fifth grade students to help her paint the mural. It was really cool to be able to help paint and see everything come together. I think this was

010a huge success because having America do it all would have taken longer. With the help of the students, it took no time at all. The mural will stay downtown for a little while and then will be permanently displayed at Andrews Elementary. Guys, I don't know. If you can't get excited about that, you better check your pulse. That is amazing. I was there and watched them just briefly. Oh, my goodness. I have not seen the finished product. That is amazing. And you have Mrs. Miller here in goosebumps and tears. Just amazing. So proud, parents, for you being here, for them being here to be able to present and share this. Just truly amazing. So proud of them. Well, I would echo Mr. Peter's statements. Number one, wow, impressive tonight and well-spoken for you guys to show

011up here. You did a wonderful job. I know our board, we get a lot of different topics that come through here, but I will tell you I know them very well, and their favorite nights are when we bring our kids in and let them talk to them, and I know that to be true. But amazing product, investment of our kids and our community for others' sake. is a value that is taught in Huntington, is valued in Huntington, and I appreciate all parts of this. So you guys did an amazing job tonight. I'll let our board talk to you a little bit what their thoughts are as well. You guys did great. Oh, my goodness. What a great thing to leave for the people coming after you guys, right? So the next few years there are

012going to be some kids come up and take your places, and it will be an exciting time for them too. So be really proud of what you've done. Everybody in town is going to be able to see this thing. And downtown is a pretty busy place this time of year. So when somebody says something nice about it, make sure you go, hey, I had something to do with that. And so did that guy. Okay, so identify because people would love to shake your hand and say thanks. Good job. Great job, guys. It's special to my heart because I used to be principal at Andrews long before you came along. So this is so special. What a great job. Great idea. And to see Andrews represented the way it is, so positive. Thank you. If it's

013okay, board, I'd like to see if we could maybe get a picture with our four students here, and maybe a school board would be great, in my opinion. So if you don't mind, we'll have somebody take a picture of you guys, if that's okay, and some of the people that assisted in this. So thank you. Guys, I know you'd love to stay, but you're free to go. Thank you so much for being here. Appreciate it. Well done. Mr. Peters, I know when we get prepared here for item A2, if you want to introduce them as well. Absolutely. I get the privilege of introducing our corporation nurse, Jennifer Rainey, who has done an outstanding job this year. It's great to have her in our district, and she's here to present our cardiac emergency response plans and

014update you on the work that she's been doing. Thank you, Jennifer, for being here. Good evening, everyone. My name is Jenny Rainey, and I'm the Corporation Nurse for Huntington County Community Schools. I've been in this role for just almost a year now, so I'm coming to the end of my firsts of each thing. One of my big projects this year has been to create cardiac emergency response plans for our district. So thank you very much for allowing me to share my work with you this evening. What can be done in three minutes? You can pop a bag of popcorn. You can make a cup of coffee. You can empty the dishwasher. You can brush and floss your teeth. You can listen to your favorite song. But what else can you do with three minutes? Three

015minutes can save a life. Every year in Indiana, between 6,000 and 7,000 people of all ages experience sudden cardiac arrest, and approximately 90% of those don't survive. For every minute that passes without CPR and the use of an AED, a victim's chance of survival decreases by 7% to 10%. Average EMS response times range from 6 to 12 minutes. And if a victim does not receive CPR with the use of an AED within 10 minutes, survival is less than 5%. However, if CPR is initiated and an AED is used in the first three to five minutes, the chance of survival increases to 70%. According to the Indiana Code Title 20, Article 34, Chapter 8, Let's see. Back on slide seven, please. That's okay. All public charter and accredited non-public schools must develop a venue-specific cardiac emergency

016response plan. And this plan needs to include detailed instructions on how to respond to sudden cardiac arrest, including elements recommended by the American Heart Association. HeartSafe Schools Program, also known as Project Adam, or other nationally recognized evidence-based programs. It also needs to indicate the location of the nearest AED at a venue. According to Riley Children's Health, schools that have these established cardiac emergency response plans can increase the survival rate of their student athletes and adults to about 89%. So of those who would experience a cardiac arrest, their survival rate could reach close to 89%. To optimize these outcomes, schools with cardiac emergency response plans must conduct regular drills that staff can make sure they can access and return with an AED within three minutes. There are five core principles. to realize these optimal results with

017cardiac emergency response plans. The first is that AED presence is required. Operational AEDs must be present at events with increased student risk of cardiac arrest, such as athletic practices or games, band rehearsals or concerts, drama or show choir rehearsals or productions. Second is to have venue-specific emergency response plans. Cardiac emergency response plans unique to each building must be developed and publicly posted in places of high visibility like gyms, sports fields, break rooms, and hallways. Third is to follow the three-minute standard. The venue-specific plans must ensure that an AED can be can be retrieved and a shock administered within that three minutes. Fourth is to require mandatory training. Emergency response team members and coaches need to have active CPR AED training and state-approved cardiac arrest awareness training. And staff must be informed on the location of

018the AEDs before events occur. The fifth core principle is strict return to play laws. Students showing warning signs for potential cardiac arrest must be removed from play and can only return after parents provide verbal and written consent as well as written direction from a physician. Currently, the number of AEDs present in our facilities is adequate. Adequacy will be checked as needed, but at least yearly. And each AED unit is checked monthly to make sure that it is ready for use when it's needed. These venue-specific cardiac emergency response plans have been developed for each building in our district. Although I did notice late this afternoon, there is an error in the ones that you received as part of the agenda. So I apologize for that. I will get that corrected. The examples that you received were

019for Huntington North High School, Crestview Middle School, Roanoke Elementary School, and the Administrative Center, but there is one for each and every building on the district. Our cardiac emergency response plans include specific building location, Location of that building's AEDs, a list of the emergency response team members for that building, instruction on recognizing and responding appropriately to a cardiac emergency, tools for training, practicing, recording, and reinforcing the cardiac emergency response plan. Emergency response team members receive training in cardiac arrest yearly, as well as recertification in CPR AED use every two years. They will also participate yearly in a sudden cardiac arrest drill. Coaches receive training on sudden cardiac arrest yearly. and every year student athletes and parents are required to receive information on sudden cardiac arrest, and they must sign an acknowledgement of this information yearly.

020The return to play policy currently in place at Huntington County Community Schools states that any student or student athlete who shows warning signs of possible sudden cardiac arrest must be immediately removed from play. whether practice or a game or a production or a band concert, the student may not return to play until parents give verbal consent and then written consent within 24 hours. And actually in our schools, we require that they have written direction from a physician as well to return to play. Having these established plans will enable our schools to communicate, teach, and respond well to cardiac emergencies. Practice drills will help improve competency and confidence of emergency response team members and our other staff. And as we all work together, we can save lives. Thank you so much for your attention this evening.

021Does anyone have any questions? I think we have a good amount of staff trained as far as our emergency response teams, but with cardiac emergencies, as many people as can be trained, lay people even, is really beneficial. And I'm looking for ways that we can incorporate that more, even among our older students. How often have we had... this happened in the schools? I know it's happened and I know that we don't often hear results or, you know, we, someone, someone faints and we find out later, you know, all they got a heart attack. Do we know, does it happen often? As far as I know. So this maybe would be within the time frame of Meg Friesen's time here, so since the beginning of her time. I believe we've only used one of our AEDs

022once. It was in 2023. I think it was a basketball game, but there was an elderly woman that had known heart problems. She had been having heart problems even that day, still came to the game. Everything was done well and appropriately. She did still pass away. But to my knowledge, it's the only time that we've used one at this point. I'm not knowing. I'm assuming the teachers probably do take CPR classes. Is that right? Yes, they have to have CPR to recertify. Well, that helps. I know that about 12 or 14 years ago. We had a maintenance worker at Lincoln Elementary that had a cardiac event. And I remember running through the hallway to get the AED. But I'll have to confess that it probably took us 10 minutes to decide whether or not to

023go get it. So I'm grateful for the training. and the drills that we're going to do. That is just as valuable, I think, as having an AED in the building, knowing how to use it. I could also be the poster child for cardiac events, definitely on the board and maybe in other places, but I've come to appreciate the technology that's available now. And fortunately, or I guess fortunately, I wear my own AED now. But there is a need for them. And we've seen more and more that our student athletes and our students in general are susceptible to cardiac events. So I appreciate the work and I appreciate the project and your diligence with regards to this. Thank you. Mrs. Rainey, thank you for your leadership on this. I know you and your team and Mr.

024Peters have been working on this communication, making sure we're in the right place and not only adequate, but we want to be exceptional at this because you don't get two chances at it. I will also tell you from my background on this. The training you're talking about became very, very important in a previous district to me and helped a student that we still give hugs to today. And so I would tell you between the nurse and myself in that instance, I was really glad to have people like you in the district that trained all of us. You just don't know when you're going to use it. And you hope you don't, but boy, does it. Are you glad you have it when it comes around? And so thank you for your leadership on this and

025your communication. And we will follow your lead on it in terms of our district. I appreciate your, as Mr. Thompson said, your due diligence on this. Thank you so much. Board, our third item tonight, we'll review a little bit of the process. You notice there's a pattern, Terry, of you being at the very end of the board meetings lately. I don't know how that keeps happening, but our best people are looking into it. I'll try to do better. We thought you requested it. Tonight is a little bit for a board for us to discuss. We've allotted up to 30 minutes. It can certainly go as long as the board chooses tonight, which is why it was the last topic so our students could... to be out. But if you remember, you had a very, really,

026really good discussion at a previous board meeting some time ago reviewing projects and funding and potential. What have we accomplished? What's been the funding source? What are still the needs? And reevaluating the district's needs because... As Terry reminded me the other day in a meeting where I said it's been a few months and I've worn a few different hats since the last time, he said, Mr. Brimberry, that's been 18 months. And it seemed like yesterday. And so I say that because it's that time again for our board to discuss where are we with the current bonds, where are we with the current projects, what... are the next items that the board might choose to prioritize and what is the funding source in the future this year and maybe our one to three and five year

027and we've got Mrs. Babcock here for the finance side. She's been working very diligently behind the scenes to answer questions tonight and discuss the different options we might have. Terry's going to review some of where we're at, and we're going to take questions and let you all talk about maybe where we'd like to go in the future. So thank you, Terry and Mrs. Babcock, for your being here tonight. I appreciate it. Are you going first? Well, I wanted to talk about the options first for our funding, if that's possible. Just so we have a, I know that's on the list is quite extensive. So I want to make sure that we keep that focus on our bonding capacity. So I have for you on the agenda here is the Baker Tilly presentation for our bonds.

028On the very next page is our existing annual debt service lease rental payment schedule. And you can see from this bar graph that in 2026, moving on to 2027, we do have some capacity here. And so that's what we want to discuss tonight so we can have a plan moving forward for which option we'd like to choose. The next page on this. presentation is just our annual existing debt service lease rental payments and as you can see on the 26 we have one dropping off which gives us a more availability for 27 28 as presented on the bar graph in the previous one Moving on to the next one is in regards to our general obligations bonding capacity, and that capacity is based on the net assessed AV with a percentage of 3% or divided

029by 3, multiplied by 2% to come up with that, and then they reduce it by any outstanding geobond capacity that we already have outstanding, leaving us with $12.5 million in capacity. However, if we take the 12.5, that would take all of our capacity and would be a controlled project versus a non-controlled project. If we wanted to do a non-controlled project, we could do it in the form of a lease or we could do it in the form of a geobond, which would be 6.865 approximately million. So in that, we would stretch it out over five years and two months to avoid that cooling off period. that's required now by law. So those are, I just want to point out as we go into this to kind of plan, because there are a lot of items

030that we would love to do, but we have to plan that out, structure it out for the future. We do have another option I do want to mention, and that is a controlled project. But I feel like the board, from my understanding and wanting to keep the rate, this was all tax neutral, by the way, keeping us under that $0.39 or that $0.39 threshold. You could do a controlled project up to $19 million, and you can do it under what's called a unified project, where you go through all the legality like a normal lease process, and then you can draw on it. You can draw your geobond, and then you can draw another geobond the following year. So it's just a matter of the preference of the board on those items. Either way, we could

031do 6.865 in 26, start drawing it in 27. Thank you, Mrs. Babcock. I'm going to go ahead and jump in and ask Mr. Wall if he has a question, because he's not here and he usually has one. You know, the only question I was going to have was having her explain a little difference between controlled and non-controlled. And I think she did that maybe just to make sure everyone else around the table is familiar with controlled versus non-controlled projects and the differences between them besides the mechanisms to create them. Okay, so the difference between a non-controlled non-controlled is basically worth in our capacity so we can go through this whole bond process It's pretty cut and dry. It's pretty easy process to go through a simpler process if you go through a controlled process then

032Controlled project then is subject to petition remonstrance in other words You have to have a 30-day waiting period where the community come back and say well No, I don't want I don't approve of this project and then you have to go Once that 30 days is up, then you can move forward if you do not have any. There's other processes you have to do if you do have people that would reject it. This would be a tax-neutral situation, so I don't know with this community on how it would come across with that, but that is really the big difference and also the timing of it. If you do a geobond, it's going to move along a lot quicker with that non-controlled project, whereas if you do it in a unified project, the process is going

033to slow. It's a lot more steps in it. So it's not like we can do whatever we want with a bond for money, and then we don't need to have a plan We still have to have a plan for the money in the in the non-controlled project Yes, right and good question. Mr. Allen and Thank You mrs. Babcock one of the things I'm going to review just to remind our public and for our board When Terry put this together, this has been literally updated through three superintendents and our current boards of facility assessment. And really, top-end districts will have, these are all the needs of the facility, and then boards review and say, okay, well, there's much more need than funding, so what do we do about that? And so when we look at it,

034you say, okay, well, we've decided in my four years here and with John and previously, I think, with Mr. Doherty, you had decided that you want to maintain a steady tax. You don't want it bouncing around. You want people to know what their tax is going to be, and we don't want to raise them. That's in play with this do are we able to do that and the answer is yes The second part I would tell you is there's far greater need on what Terry's going to talk about and there has been for years here What this board has done an exceptional job on and your previous boards from my take coming back here is prioritizing the needs, having open discussion about them, and saying, well, we can't do it all, but here's what we'd

035like to do now, and here's what we'd like to do and consider and get updated in the years in the future. And so when Terry starts to talk, you're going to see a lot of things. Well, please know those are your previous assessments from a lot of years, and he can update, we've done this, we've done this, we've done this. These are the remaining ones, and here's some new ones that are now showing up as needs. For our public, please understand these are for discussion purposes for our board. This is not a decision tonight. This is not a meeting for that. But it lets you look at a facility assessment based on. What Huntington might need in the future and lets our board discuss? Maybe what we would prioritize now if we go forward with

036a geo bond So I say that because you'll see some large numbers This bond alone would not cover many of them that would have to be a future consideration I'm going to leave you with one more item to please know that many districts around the state due to some changes in legislation in Indianapolis, are in a shortfall in operations. Now, what does that mean for us? Well, from a guy who sits in the capital projects, if you remember several months back, you approved a capital projects that it was okay if we move forward on a lot of different projects and we have funding for that. As the state... has cut funding to us. We have been very, very close to the vest on what we approve in Huntington. We're doing certain things, but we have

037been very, very good stewards of the money, which means although we have the ability to go further, we have not done that in many of the projects, in capital projects, trying to be very conscious of what funds we do have in operations and our improvement. When you see a geo bond request, please know many districts are using some of that. for operations in the old capital projects, if you will. And so although you might have an ability to do six million. You also might have needs of formally and operations of capital projects that might take a portion of that if we so move that way. So you might not have all six million for the entire project. Some of those might be some asphalt. Some of those might be some upgrades within each building. And

038I want you to know that because we've done both recently here. You've done your capital projects and you've done your bonds. Well, due to shortfalls all over the state, not just Huntington, please be aware that many corporations are now looking at, well, how much of the operations do we also need to worry about with geobonds, et cetera. So it's not a full $6 million for all projects listed. Some of the projects we haven't done due to obviously limited revenue. And so I want to be transparent about that as Terry talks tonight. The needs of the district are vast, but the funding is limited. So we're really going to have to have in-depth discussions about what do you value and what are things we can accomplish with this round if you so choose. Thank you. Real

039quick, sitting here as many years as I've sat here, when I come on this board, Cindy will vouch for this, we didn't have money to do nothing. This board, prior to me, did nothing. So all these projects, all these roofs, all this remodeling has been setting since 1970, and we've touched nothing, and now we're being forced to do it. But we've survived by people having no one pass superintendents, and this is great here. So the public has to understand we're now being forced to do some of this stuff. We don't have a choice at this point because it's been let go since 1970, since this building was built, or since these other buildings have been built. We've been very fortunate to have this young man sitting right here to ride along with us. So I

040need you to understand that. We're forced to do some of this. And I would tell you from a guy who has seen this transform in four years, Gary, this board has been very specific on the needs of the district and good stewards of their money. And you're sitting in many of the facilities now that needed upgraded. Many of the things, Gary, I know you say for X number of years, but I taught here in 94. And when I walked back in, it was. the same. And so I would tell you it was needed. It's best interest of our children. And now you've got another tough decision, which is you've got a lot of needs and the funding is limited. So good discussion ahead of us tonight. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Brimberry. And Gary, I

041appreciate the young man compliment. I'll take that. Right. I'll take it as a win. So all right. First slide, Tanya. So, okay, so what I'm going to talk about first is the current bonds. So as you can see, they're listed here, the 22, 23, 24, and 25 bond. I wanted to let you know what's left in those bonds and what's going on. So the 22 bond was the large bond that we did, started back in 22, it was 25 million or so. And it tackled this campus, this building and this campus, and we've got a lot done. So what we're down to is the large mechanical replacement project. There's between 200 and 250 pieces of mechanical equipment in this building, and we've replaced them all. Right now we're just trying to get them dialed in

042so that they work properly. And it's working because this is now a meat locker again, and it feels good in here. So the other one left on the bond right now would be the ceiling and lighting and piping and PA replacement. The only thing left are the Duke rebates. So we're down just the paperwork on the Duke rebates. It's going to be just under $100,000. And as Michelle explained to me, that can actually go over into operations. It doesn't have to go back into the bond. So she's already taken that money and running with it. Yes, I have. So that's good. It just took paperwork and a little bit of work on our end and the contractor and turn all that into Duke and get about $100,000 back. The floor restoration project, the only thing

043left is a little bit of finish work back in the field house, and there was a crack that formed in the floor back there, and the contractor just cut it out last week all the way through to the ground, and we found what the problem was. Just an odd... Odd wall of concrete buried in the ground. And what happened was the new floor up top actually somehow adheres itself all the way through the concrete to that wall, and it couldn't move. So now they're separating it so that it can move like it's supposed to. It won't crack again, hopefully. And they're working on getting that finished up by the end of this month. The varsity locker room is the other one. And I've been back there a couple of times over the last few weeks,

044and everything's gone. So they have demoed everything and they're now starting to put stuff back together. So that is planned to be finished by this fall. There's two phases. The first phase will be finished before school starts back up. The 23 bond is strictly salamone and that was the HVAC replacement. Last fall we discovered that there was an old oil tank that was still a fuel oil tank that was buried in the ground underneath the chiller. That was also on top of the old cooling tower pad. So there's some layers of stuff that had been left there over the years. That oil tank is getting removed this week. So they're making good progress out there. Once that's done, the new chiller pad will be poured. The new chiller will go in place. And the penthouse,

045all of the equipment's already out. And the new equipment's up there. And they're working on putting it back in place. So they're making great progress. The 24 bond was the restroom renovation project. We finished all the original restrooms. We had additional funds in that project. We're now tackling the kitchen restrooms behind me, special needs, and also family consumer science. So those are under renovation right now for this summer. And then the 25 bond would be the most current bond that we have, and so that's a multitude of these smaller projects. The window replacement, as you can see when you come in the main drive. The windows are coming out, and it's right now wood just to protect the building and secure it, and then the new windows will start going in soon. The secure vestibules

046project, materials, doors, that stuff's on order, so it's lagging a little bit because of timing to put it out to bid. The arena is now off limits, and I've been back there, and scaffolding is going up, and they're starting to blast and get the old paint off. So that's a two-phase project for this summer and next summer. Exterior building maintenance. They already have one building done and they're almost finished with the second of the five buildings. So they started early before school got out and the company's doing a great job. Rich and I walked one of the buildings with the contractor last week and it looked really good. Horseman HVAC, we're working on that design now. That won't be done until next summer. And then the last and remaining project would be the Salamone pool

047demo. So, again, that's going to be next summer. So any questions on the current bonds before we switch to the next step? Okay. So we're wrapping things up. I labeled this as the 2026 bond potential, but it would be 26 in whatever bonds come forward because, as Mr. Brimberry said, of $6 million, you can see the first item is $6 million. So everything after that just goes well beyond that when you start to add all of this up. So a lot of these projects do come from our facility assessment that we have updated a second time just a couple years ago, but also some of these things. just pop up. We realize there's a need or a necessity for something and so it gets added to the list of ongoing potential projects and so some

048of those fall into that category, others come off the assessment and I'll try to explain that as we go through these. So we had talked about this previously for most of you who were on the board. We went through a couple of these last year and The first one being the new maintenance technology transportation building. So basically building a new building, standalone building for them to serve their needs. By far, that is the worst building you have in the corporation. But it's kind of out of sight and out of mind. And, you know, it's just where the buses are and Rich and his team and I.T. And so but if you go out there, it's rough. So. So. The next one is built, and that one's $6 million just for that building based on square

049footage of their existing facility and what it would take to then build something similar new. The next one is building controls. So when I mentioned for the mechanical project for this building, we're trying to get things dialed in, that's the controls. So it's a little different than your house and a thermostat hanging on the wall. It's thermostats hanging on every wall, and then all of that goes into a computer, and then it can read then 5, 10, 15 different components within each piece of equipment that's hidden all over this building. Because valves and fans and all these things have to play nice and work together. And as you would expect with technology, it doesn't always do that. But the controls allows Rich and his team to see when an issue or Beth, but Beth does

050a great job in this building, keeping an eye on it every single day. So you get ahead of an issue so you don't have catastrophic failure or, you know, you have to, okay, we can't have kids in the building because, students in the building because of X, Y, Z. Try to get ahead of it, find the issue, get the small item repaired before something big happens. But the building controls can cover all of the buildings that don't already currently have controls. That's what I was going to ask. So that $7 million would be minus, I think, north, essentially, about it? Essentially. Yeah, that's all the others. It's expensive, but it does save money in the long run based on what it's capable of doing. And again... I'm going to talk about most of these things

051at a very high level, but in the future as we start to whittle this list down and say this is what we want to do maybe for the 26 bond, if we move forward with one, then we'll get into the weeds on those particular things and start to work our way into that discussion. Another one that I had previously presented was renovating the library here in this building. Because when I was here, it was open. And so it was a little more airy, and now it's a box. And it's just not comfortable in there. It works well for testing, but it's supposed to be a library, and we also want to make it more of a technology space, modernize it, make it more like a university library space would be or technology space would be.

052So we definitely want to modernize that. So that one's about $4 million. Fine arts edition and existing band room renovation. The band room and facilities that are here were never big enough for this building when it was originally built. And when I was here, there were 11 or 1200 more students. And so I don't know how they made it work, because even with the current student population, you go back there, they're jammed in there. And when you come after school and you hear them practicing. They're all over the entire building because there's not space for them and they need to break out into different groups. And so you'll find them all over the place. The idea would be to build them a space so they can do that. And it would go where, for those

053of you who know, where the pool was supposed to go on this building a long time ago. I did. So it's right out through that wall and it's out in that large green space. And I'm going to bring up one other that ties into that addition if that project ever moves forward. So the next one, and that one's $8 million. So that's a substantial project. I'd like to know where the pool is on the list. It's not. So it was. It was on the previous, and it was called Demo. So we're getting rid of it. Pools are expensive, very, very expensive. So tennis court addition. Current tennis courts which right out the windows here in order to be able to hold more events and do more things This school needs four more courts in order

054to do that. And we actually have come up with a layout that works to add four courts to the existing layout that's there. And then also, and that's about $665,000 just to add those four courts and redo the fence and redo the lighting and make that work or redo that so that it works. And then the next one would be. Because right now there's a storage building out there that's used for multiple things, but part of it's tennis. But also, if you're out there watching tennis, where do you go to the restroom? Where do you get concessions? Where do you do anything? You go for a hike, and then eventually you come back and the match is over. And so the idea would be to replace that storage building and then incorporate storage, restrooms, concessions.

055all of that in that area out there. And potentially that can also be used by additional sports other than tennis. They would. Luckily, there's sewer lines that are out there. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, they're not far. And also, there's lines running all around this building. So it is. It is. And Terry, just many of the board members, some of the board members were on here. But when I arrived here four years ago, when I was reviewing, Everything from finishing the stadium out there to what hasn't been done, which was tennis at the time, the original plans held for 10 courts. And I know many of the board members would be a part of that. But I would also tell you when you're looking at this broken out like this, the reason I asked Terry to do

056it that way is the first was a part of what didn't get done originally. which was 10 courts. And I've got some people here locally that have been very supportive and patient with that. Hey, is it possible in the future if there were funding? So I want to make sure that you all are reminded of that. I know the board knows this, but also our kids do to you. So why do you have lighting on there as well? That's down below that I would remind you. And one of the. parents is here, but our kids finish sometimes and they're not done and they go over to HU and finish their meets. And so we suspend meets sometimes at Huntington North and then go to Huntington University where they have proper lighting and finish our high

057school meets, which I've personally never seen until I came back to Huntington. So I say that just so I'm transparent. Why is it broken out that way? because we have limited funding, but please know the first one of 665 was a part of an original part years ago that didn't get completed. The second one is dealing with a current issue they have due to no lighting. So just to be transparent on that. I appreciate that. The next one is lighting and I've experienced it. My youngest son played baseball for years and a day like today even it could be cloudy enough where you need lights on in order for those players to properly see. So that would include tennis, baseball, and softball for that $815,000. And then the next one would be restrooms for softball

058as well. So part of the issue is that the fields are so far away and there's no restroom facilities. And even once you come into the building. It's not always easy to then get to a restroom and then those people who come in this building It's even funny with contractors that have been here for a year. They're like I still don't know where I'm going and I'm like it's a piece of cake It's all just squares and you just around it, but it this building so large and spread out So part of going back to that fine arts edition we talked about if that ever happened We would put restrooms out on the corners so that you would have access easier access from the outside Correct, right They could share that facility on you could

059do concessions in restrooms and let them share. And, you know, Ryan can attribute with softball and soccer and et cetera. But we're trying to look at what I hear from since I returned is from our fans, and some of them are, say, my age and up, Gary. And the ability to get to the restrooms is a challenge. And from schools our size, I'll – I've been all over the state. I've not been to a place that does not have them. We have them near us, but they are quite a jaunt. So I would just tell you for your consideration, board, these are things that when I read notes from previous building projects here that didn't get completed or were discussed but not moved forward over time here, some of these are things that were on

060there as well. So just trying to make sure you keep them on your radar for your consideration in the future. And that's normal. My previous community had a time where the lights were off all the facilities. It was a much smaller district, but all the facilities' lights went off at a certain time, and it didn't matter if it was down at the Little League Park or at the high school. It was a residential area. The one benefit, Terry, you might talk a little bit about is the lighting today is much different. It is. Than it used to be. You might talk a little bit about that. Right. We usually lean toward Musco lighting systems, and Musco has what we call cutoffs. So anybody who drives a newer vehicle than I do, a lot of times

061your lights, you'll see a black line. And so sport lighting is the same way these days. So it will not trespass into a neighbor. And there's videos out there of. fields, football fields typically, football stadiums where you'll see that trespass. It could be, well it looks like half a mile away and then they put the new Moscow lights up and it cuts it off right at the bleachers. So it does a great job and also it's a lot better efficient. It's more efficient. You're going to save money. It definitely pays for itself. We have the football field now, right? You should. Yeah. We didn't do that project but you should because that's what everyone does these days is use Moscow. Tanya, next slide. Some of these projects you see dollar values go down and as

062mr. Brimberry mentioned some of these could become capital projects They don't necessarily need to be a bond project if it's something that can be done because in some of these cases It could be broken out into smaller pieces even than what I have listed here. So Crestview listed there for aluminum entry doors and drainage issues We actually bid the drainage issues as part of the exterior building maintenance. We just didn't have enough money to do it all So we know what that cost Next one would be Riverview and Salamone. So much like we restored the terrazzo in this building and you see how different it looks, the same thing should be done for Riverview and Salamone because you want to restore that and take care of that terrazzo so that it lasts longer. And plus

063then, we get away from waxing it, which saves a tremendous amount of time and labor. And it used to be... in the summer to come in this building and then try to navigate around. Nope, can't go. Nope, can't. Okay, how do I get from this point to that point without going through wax somewhere? And then if you did, Beth would get the FBI to check the tread on your shoes, and then she would know who did it. So that's what we try to do. save the terrazzo and then improve that and save money at the same time. So Riverview is one of the next buildings. Even though it is a very efficient building, the HVAC system is past its time. So overall, Rich and I were talking about it the other day about how many

064pieces of equipment. And so there's upwards of 12 or 13 pieces of equipment that need replaced in that building. And so that one's pretty substantial at $4.5 million. The tennis courts, if you look at the middle school tennis courts, even just looking at them on an aerial, you're like, are they still playable? Because they're just old and they need resurface, restored, and brought back to life at a million dollars or so for all of those. Salamone. ceiling and lighting. So Salamone was built the same time this building was roughly and it has a lot of the same lighting system that used to be in here. So we would do the same thing at Salamone that we did here. do it, lay in fixtures, LED, try to get those Duke rebates and just improve that and

065also lower that cost for operating that building. And that's about $650,000. The entry loop and the drive. So if you come into the front of this building, obviously it's... A nice drive, and then you go all the way around that loop. And Rich and I have talked about it, and he's talked about doing parts and pieces of it, but this would include doing every bit of it. You mill it all out, get rid of the bad spots, dig it out if you need to, and then repave the whole thing because the amount of bus traffic is substantial. So that would be $2 million to bring all that up to the level that it needs to be. Also deal with some of the concrete work out there at the same time. So one of the things

066that we've tried to figure out how to address recently over the last couple years would be how do we try to improve wrestling since now there's girls wrestling and boys wrestling and there's just not enough space for both in the current wrestling room. So we looked at different spaces in the building to see if we could try to make something work. Unfortunately, there's just no easy way to do it. But what we talked about is so if we added on that fine arts. addition, maybe also since it's off of the athletic hallway, we put in a new wrestling space within that addition. That cost would be $1.75 to do that and not necessarily add on somewhere else because that cost would go up if we did that. Then the next one on there would be

067Flint Springs and Lincoln and that would be something simple as resurfacing playgrounds. Next slide. So this one comes up a lot. It just came up the other day when I was out there for the mechanical system because your mechanical system... All the new equipment in here is tied to the big equipment. It's tied to the fire alarm. Luckily, this building has a new fire alarm that we did a few years ago. But you have smoke detection systems in those air handlers because if a fire started in the kitchen and it got pulled into the HVAC system, that equipment would detect it through a smoke detector basically that's in that ductwork. The fire alarm system at Salamone is so old that we cannot do that. So there's going to be individual alarms for each piece of

068equipment out there, standalone, because we don't have a way to tie it into the system. It's just too old, and so it's obsolete. So it needs a new fire alarm system. And that's about $150,000. And then the last one on this part of the list is the triplets. And there's old loading docks on the back of the buildings that aren't used anymore. And so they're just rusting away. And we want to rip those out and then pour concrete in that and fill it in. So that's a pretty low dollar item there for $40,000. So the next slide would be then, now these are all items that I pulled out of the facility assessment report. And all of these items are items that... become critical. So for those of you who know the facility assessment, it's

069color-coded red, yellow, blue, and green. Red being it needs done now or 10 years ago, depending on as Gary had mentioned. And then the yellow is within two years. And so two years flies by in what we do. And then blue goes to seven and then it goes up to like 15 years. So I only Chose items either in red or yellow so and these numbers come from those things within two years or less than two years So the administrative center obviously is new so so that's going to get us 20 years or so before we start to address issues there again Andrews 1.7 million Crestview 1 million Flint Springs Isn't bad at 30,000 horseman 3.4 million The high school, another 2.2 million. Lincoln, 1.4 million. And I can't see that bottom number, but so

070Riverview, 3.5. And that does not include items that I previously talked about. These are all separate. And it's a laundry list. I could give you examples, but it's just an absolute laundry list of every building's a little different and what those items are. Next slide. So Roanoke is a new enough building. Again, it's zero right now on those items within a couple years. Salamone, another $2.2 million. And then I put maintenance at zero based on the idea of a new standalone $6 million building. If not, then quite a bit gets added into that list of things that need done in that building. And then the Learning Center would be about $300,000. So I added up that entire list. Everything that's in green on my list equates to about $55 million. So every year that we

071wait or have to wait in order to try to get funding, that number goes up between 6% and 7% on average. So this number is actually based on 2026. I did not base it on 2027. So you add 6% to that, that's $3.3 million. So it goes to $58.3 million. So before you know it, you're in the 60s. And based on what Michelle shared... You only have small amounts available over the next few years. So we're just going to have to pick what's critical or important and decide, you know, what to do. In the 2025 bond, for instance, we talked about some of these larger projects, but we chose student safety as one of the biggest things that we wanted to focus on. And that absolutely made sense. But now some of those things will

072probably still have a little bit of student safety, but we're tackling a lot of those things. So it'll be what becomes critical. or what becomes the most important. I would also mention that in your previous discussions, Learning Center... Addition has come up over years, and that's just for everyone's friendly reminder. Precision Ag, we've got about 17 kids that go to Heartland. Drone certification, those things can be utilized. The Ag program was discussed here in the past of additions. Craigbaum is an area that you can expand. I saw previous drawings. The newest addition to the Learning Center was built in a manner, according to the notes I read. where you could extend towards the parking lot, towards Old Craigbaum, if you needed future programming needs. I'm sure some of the board remembers that. I would also

073tell you that one of the things we're running into is the need. We have more need for early childhood education. I know Mr. Peters can attest, than we have space. Keep in mind, board, one of the greatest indicators of the ability to intervene early in children's literacy. is not arguable. The more kids we get access to ages three and four, the literacy rates skyrocket. And so we, Jay has done a wonderful job with your support of getting five preschools in of our ability, but I will tell you we're jam-packed now and we have waiting lists as Laura would tell you. And so an early childhood center. It needs to be something that's on your discussion, whether that's an extension of rooms on the learning center where your kids can do dual credit and help out,

074or whether an individual center at a different space, whether that be near the high school, near the learning center, or otherwise. These are topics that need to be on your radar. Whether that's one, three, five, or in the future, we're going to run out of room with the need for early childhood education. So I keep that one on your radar as well. I did not. We have previously talked about that a little bit. We're standing on the sideline helping with a smaller school district, building a new child development center. And based on that square footage and the size of this school district, you're talking five plus million, five to six million dollars easily for a new building for that need. So you just have to, again, decide what's important. It's amazing what things cost these

075days compared to when I started a long time ago. You could build a brand new bank for a million dollars, and now you can't do anything for a million dollars, it seems like. So with all the things I said, any questions, comments? Right, so originally we actually looked at building it adjacent to the current location, but then you get into issues that you have to deal with at the airport. So we started looking at the potential of the open space at Lincoln. You have about 30 acres of open space at Lincoln that farm gets farmed, and so you're getting a little bit of cash rent from that, but potentially could it go there? So rather than taking up higher dollar value space at Craig Baum, former Craig Baum, instead maybe at Lincoln. So we'd have

076to get into the weeds on that and figure that out in the future, but we've thought about it a little bit. Good question, though. If something happened and we did do the wrestling and fine arts, how would you connect it to the building? And would we be wasting our money currently on replacing those windows? Oh, there's only one little tiny section of windows in there. Okay. So that's a few thousand dollars. Okay. It would be a two-story addition. I wasn't sure if it was that whole hallway. It is, but most of those are doors. Okay. The existing doors. Okay. And it would be a two-story addition. It has to accommodate the need for Fine Arts and Mesa Band. They need a two-story volume to do what they want to do. But we've looked at it.

077It's very doable. Mrs. Babcock, if the board were to decide on some projects and they went with the 6.8 or million, if they were to decide to do that, knowing the shortfall in operations that you would need to make sure we're solvent for the day-to-day operations of our district. How much would be, whether that's $2 million, $2.5 million, what's needed on your side so we know the remaining funds that would be for projects? That's a good question. Thank you for that. I'm glad you brought that up. Unfortunately, I do see, as you've... witness on the financial reports every month that you know we've had to transfer from the ed to ops more quicker than normal and I understand that in years past you were allowed to run into the negative in that I don't operate

078that way I don't like to have a negative fund So that may be a little shifting of that piece. I mean, I know there was an intent to spend down, but unfortunately because of SEA 1, we're going to see a larger impact on the circuit breaker impact for us due to that supplemental homestead credit. So I am seeing about roughly $2 million that we really need to try to absorb. When we were looking at other ways to do that, there's $100,000 coming back in rebates. There is another item that I'll have for you at the next board meeting for natural gas, saving approximately about close to $100,000 a year as well. So there's different avenues that we are looking to try to reduce those and take a look at everything. cost-wise to make sure we're

079being efficient with it. So I would say as an earmark, I would say $2 million. And that can encompass some of those items, those smaller items that he's... brought up that could come out of capital projects if we could just earmark those for that. So it's not to say that we couldn't, but we need to make sure that that's part of that and that the ops fund does not have the ability to absorb any of those large items. Also, some things to consider would be the technology, also transportation, like bus replacement, those sort of things. So we just have to be very careful with that to make sure we're planning accordingly. So are geobonds available only every two years now? So we do have the capacity to do the 6.8, and then we could come

080back in another year and do another bond. One of the options that is available for us is a controlled project where it's a unified project, but that is, again, subject to petition remonstrance, so I'm not sure if the board really wants to go that route, keeping in mind this is all tax neutral, so there is no impact on the, you know. the community whatsoever. But it's just giving you the opportunity and that's just going through the process. We could do a geo bond now at 6.85 and then come back in another year once that other debt falls off and do another geo bond. As long as we have it within the cooling down period. So which one requires the cooling off period? The general obligations bond. So that's one year of nothing. I believe, and

081I will verify this for you on that, that you have to plan it out for five years and at least two to four months time frame. And then that is considered the cooling down period to my understanding. But I will double check with Baker Tilly and Ice Miller on that for you and me. And that's under the current statute as it is today. And who knows what's going to happen in the legislative session in January. Yes, absolutely. And that's another thing, too, that I'm a little cautious on with the operations fund. I know that there's more to come from the legislators' impact. So I have a list of questions and I'm going to try to to to dole them out because they're they're equal between Terry and Mrs. Babcock. So I'm going to try to

082dole them out. So this is Babcock, you're first. If we do the GEO bond this year, does that ultimately lead us? Because when I look at Terry's list, there are quite a few large ticket items that I don't know that would be fully available to do under a GEO bond. Does that pushing that that that geobond out, does that allow us if we do a couple of geobonds now allow us to have a larger pool of funds to be able to do a controlled project that might be able to really hit like several of those large ticket items in the future? There would be the possibility on a control project in the future, but what we have to keep in mind is will it increase that tax rate? I know that's one of the things

083that we are trying to be very careful of at keeping it low, and, I mean, that is really awesome. I have not seen any district that I've looked at on their numbers be that low in the debt rate, so that is really good, so I commend you on that. But we could come back later and do something like that, but we have to be careful of that rate. Yes. So is that something that we could turn around and ask Baker Tilly under today's rules, knowing that the rules might change? Could we ask them to? create a plan that could allow us some flexibility in the future looking at that and then knowing that when we do those geo bonds that that is the ultimate plan to do that because that's something that we could ask

084them if there's what type of flexibility that would give us and and when that might be able to be done yes absolutely Well, second question from Ms. Babcock. One of the things I think I heard you kind of reference that, but I know that in looking at the budgets, we're getting up on our time to talk about one-to-one devices. Is money set aside in capital projects or are we going to have to add that into a geobond? That'll need to be... Or some other bonding, another bonding format. Yes, it would need to be in some sort of bonding. I believe originally it was budgeted in a bond at some point, so I need to take a look at those to see where that is at to make sure we can put that in there. And

085Ryan, the latest estimate I think Jay and I saw a couple months back was an estimate, you know, if you did them all, because we're on borrowed time right now on the devices. If we extended those beyond what a normal cycle would be, I think it was around $1.3 million for all. Now, do we need to do all those? I know Ms. Brown's in the audience tonight, and we're looking at the same things you are. What do we need? How long are they on them? And what do we want to get done? We'll bring that to you, but you are correct. We are on extended time, if you will, on those devices. And I think, Jay, and you might remember better than me, I thought it was 1.3 to do them all, but that continues

086to go up. And whether we did that K-5 and then went 6 through 12 like we have or all at once would be a determination then. Yeah, thank you for that, Mr. Brunberry. I knew it was a number that was out there. I just wanted to make sure the rest of the board knew about it. And I would look forward to having those discussions when we're able to start having those discussions. But I want to make sure the rest of the board is thinking about, we've got Terry's projects, but we may have some other stuff. And I appreciate Mrs. Babcock also mentioning that in her conversations. Now to Mr. Thornsberry. You and I have had conversations in the past that we have hit at the high school. We've hit consumer family sciences. We've hit the

087science department. We're looking at band. But one of the things that I don't want to make sure that we do at some point, though, is just hit some of those general education, math, social studies, English classrooms. It's still not in the list. Can you tell me and can you talk about if we were to add that, what that cost might be? I know there's some logistics issues about doing something like that, but I think that we've hit some of these other areas, but at some point we need to hit some of those general education classrooms. What is the kind of concept and thoughts about that? And what are your take on that? I know you're off the cuff on that, but can you maybe just talk a little bit about that? From the science block

088project, we learned that it is actually a little easier just to take out a section of the demountable wall. So the walls in this building were designed so they could be moved. They've never been moved. Some have been taken down, but they were never moved. It's kind of awkward had they done that. So the idea would be to try to do a block of rooms at a time as best we could. So if you walk around in here, you realize they're just squares or rectangles. And so we would try to tackle, it could be six or eight rooms at a given time. And that could easily be a million plus dollars for a block of rooms. Classrooms are less expensive than like science block. But if you say, let's tackle, because one space that needs

089addressed is art. The art room looks a lot like the science block did. It's rough, but it's kind of hidden back there, and unless you go in there, you don't realize how rough it really is. But it's old, it's worn out, and it looks the same as it did when I was here, or when Gary was here probably. Much like Family Consumer Science, it does... Right, I... So, much like Mr. Brimberry said when he came back in 94... When I left here in 1990 and then came back here in 2021, it was still the same. Virtually nothing had changed in this building. So we've made a huge dent in things. But Mr. Wall, your answer is you're going to look at a million, million two, probably for every block of classrooms to do what we

090did for science block to at least get everything up to the same level. I'm thinking in my head, off the top of my head, there's at least, what, 10 blocks maybe? At least. Or is there less than that? Yeah. Okay. And then. And does that million number also hold for the arts area too? Because thank you for reminding me of that. I completely forgot we had discussed that one in the past as well. Yeah, arts would easily be between $2 and $3 million probably. Okay. So we're talking $13 million just to maybe talk about just kind of hitting a lot, a big chunk of the rest of the building. Is that correct? You're only talking about this building. You're not talking about. Oh, I know. I know. We're just talking about that, but I just

091want to put everything on the table. So we're aware of what's outstanding because I think until we, we have everything on the table, we don't know where we can start because then that other stuff's always just sitting out there. So I agree. Cool. Yeah, I think the other questions about the maintenance and bus garage, I think Gary asked. We're good. So that's all I have. Thanks, guys. Okay. Thank you. For your discussion, when I hear Mrs. Babcock and I see what Terry's provided for you, for your discussion points. When I see the 6.8, if that's the route you decide to go, and I see what operations you're going to need, and you subtract soft costs and hard costs and so on, in my head, the simple math is somewhere around $4 million. So when you

092see the large list for the immediate geobond, if you go that route, anything above that would be not able to fit on that bond. for if you did one for this fall. So when you're looking at Terry's list and you're considering things, you could, in my head, and Michelle, you can correct me here, but it would be totaling up to four or a project of four or less, unless I'm reading that wrong, Michelle. But it looks to me like that would be if you do an immediate one, correct? Yes, that's correct. Okay. Anybody else? You did really well. Thank you. I appreciate it. Look forward to figuring this out as we move forward. Board, for my purposes, when I provide... When our team gets together, after hearing this tonight, are there priorities on your head

093that you want to discuss? Do you want to think about this? And then we continue to talk because the timeline for decisions, anytime you do this, you know, you think you have a lot of time. But if you're talking about a bond for this year, we'll have to start refining. And I know in the past you gave some direction on this. Are there things on the list when you see them? that gets your attention as an immediate or for your Chuck Brimberry, please consider this. Mrs. Babcock and Mr. Hanson and our team here, these are things I want you to think about to bring back to me. I'm interested in some input if you're willing to give that tonight. If not, I'll certainly wait until you are. I don't know about the rest. I'll just

094start. I tend to focus on what helps teachers, principals, students first, parents. So something that's involving one of the schools to help the kids learn. I'd be very interested to know, see Mrs. Ross. Unfortunately, she stayed long enough for me to ask a principal question. But is there something that the principals, like as a group, would say, you know, if we could have that, that would really help my staff. Those things, I think, are... The ones that impact me, I mean, I'm a sports guy. You tell me we can put lights everywhere, I'm going to think that's the greatest thing ever. But I think it's, I have a hard time doing that when we have things to do inside the schools. Mr. Melcher. I'm a maintenance guy. Outside in, I'd love to do inside stuff

095first, but I think you got to take care of the outside. Otherwise, it starts falling apart. So the heating and cooling. the terrazzo. Mr. Carl? I'm not sure where I'd like to start on stuff, but with all these lists that we have, I'd like to see a list sent to us that we can sit down and think about for a little bit. And then on your assessments for the different schools, do we have a list of those items that we're talking about, too, that we can look at and kind of, I mean, try to make a decision without... Looking at that would be difficult. The assessment is, I think, 700 pages. So, yeah, you're through it. I don't know where it is these days. I mean, I have it, but I don't know where it

096is. Okay. Yeah. It's accessible now electronically. Yeah, I was going to say, I think I have a copy. Yeah. Isn't it still in BoardDocs? Yes. Then I'll get up to it. Okay, good. Right. And so, Mr. Carl, happy to go through it with you to explain how it's put together. This has been a while. I would anticipate an executive session sometime in the next few months, sooner than later, to review a lot of that. I like that idea a lot. Yeah, that would allow us to really ask you some questions. At the same time, you know, bring some ideas, you know. We can be really creative here. I think we've always done that and been able to be successful. But it is a daunting list. And it's important that we get it right, you know,

097just about every time. So, Mr. Thompson? I think of all of the things we discussed, I'm more intrigued at an early learning center. And I guess my first question is, do we not have capacity in our buildings now? Would it be beneficial to, when I think learning center, I'm thinking a new building. Is that the concept? I guess, and I'll let Mr. Peters chime in as well. What I'm seeing in the elementaries, Mr. Thompson, is they're all functioning, but the programming needs are we're running out of room. We don't have one at Horseman due to lack of room. We have one. at all the other elementaries, but now we're due to some other program expansion, now we're running out of needs. And so we're busing kids to different locations currently in our elementary, as you

098all know. And I'm trying to project out that at the current rate of growth, what's happening here. we're going to have to deal with an issue where we're going to have to continue to limit enrollment at a capacity that I don't think that I'd be a huge fan of, to be honest with you. I want as many of our kids that live in this community with early child education, and you're an elementary teacher in your background as well, so I know you know the value, but right now we're, Jay, would you say we're at capacity? We finished the year with 149 preschool children. Currently, right now, and this is the first part of June, we're at 135, and we've got a waiting list. So the need is great. And this is just not a, I

099want to say, Huntington County Community School Corporation. This is a community problem. When we talk about preschool, when we talk about early childhood education, when we talk about child care, we truly need them earlier. We need them earlier and the space that it requires. Mr. Thompson I did ask because my thought was well I'd love to have them in the building they're going to attend elementary if I can which is how we're set up now. We seem to be running out of space and we seem to be we're there so I said to Terry is it cheaper to add on if we need to or is it cheaper to become more efficient with the location? meaning if everyone was at the same spot, is that better economically than if we run out of space in

100these elementaries in the next two to three years, and new is cheaper than adding on. And so it was just merely a discussion to get us talking about early child education. The need is great. The space is limited. And we need to project this out in the future of what is our plan. And so your question is excellent. okay, are you out of space now or will you be? Are you meeting the needs now or are you not? And I see the need is greater than our space currently in Huntington, but that's everywhere. And so I'm a huge advocate of if we can educate them earlier, we have an obligation if we can. Right now, I'm worried that we do not have the space to meet the needs. The evidence is so clear that the

101early child education, whether they go to a really high quality daycare, church daycare or otherwise, or they come to us, that those children seem to assimilate academically. And it's not to say the others do not, but the statistics in general, the mean averages. will say those kids have an advantage sometimes. And it's not just in Huntington. It's everywhere. Mrs. Miller? I think as we've talked about our future conversation and we look at where we came from. We've talked about things like safety being really important. The last time we talked about this, safety became the number one. We've talked about the importance of teaching and learning, as you've talked about, Tim. Gary, you've talked about what happens when you don't do anything over a long period of time. It all collapses. And to me, it sounds

102like it might be beneficial to talk about creating a rubric to have this conversation. What do we value the most? and prioritize that so that we have something to measure and evaluate each of those items. So it becomes a little easier to clarify how we're going to rank all of those things. Just a thought. That sounded exactly like a former teacher administrator, and I'm so proud right now. I know you are. I know you are. Anything else? I haven't talked on this subject. To me, it comes down to, are we going to do a controlled project or a non-controlled project? And it sounds like we're kind of leaning towards the non-controlled project, which is that $4 million fund for a project that I think we have to talk about. So I also then want to

103start figuring out from a timeframe, when do we have to have that decision made by? And so that's an important conversation that I think we need to have too, because... If you were to ask me today what we're going to do, it's going to be analysis by paralysis at this point because there's a lot of information that was given us tonight. And I know we're going to have to talk about this at a minimum another work session because we're going to need time to process all this information and understand what's going on with it. So I myself need this presentation so I can start looking at it and understanding what's going on and start putting some pencil to paper and trying to figure that out. Unless someone wants to do the control project, because that

104does give us a bigger pool of funds. But I really feel like today it's a non-control project. And I also want to hear back from Baker Tilly. If we do this non-control project today, does that open us up to additional items in the future? And when does that allow us to do that? So there's a couple of questions out there I want to know, too. But Mrs. Babcock, can you speak to the timing of when we need to really have a decision made by? Yes, so if we go with the non-controlled project like the general obligations bond the first like item that we'll have to publish is in July the end of July So we would need a decision in July so we can start that process to move forward the first Action items on

105the board meeting would be in August August 10th. They have it scheduled or they have it mapped out for me so I need to verify that date with you. If we go with a non-controlled project and do the lease then that would actually be earlier. So if you're going to go that route that would we'd actually have to have the decision here by the end of June to move forward with that. Mr. Wald, my thought was I would talk with you and Mr. Allen and get the board's feelings on how many times you want this on the agenda based on what your thoughts are after hearing different things tonight, whether we need different sessions, whether we don't. I know we have several board meetings, but remember in July there's about a three-week window we do

106not. And so I'll begin, we'll make sure between Mrs. Babcock and myself that you have access to everything you need. And then I'll start working with you and Mr. Allen on how would you like to backward map this so we can get the input needed to make an educated decision within a timeline that allows you to choose what you think is most important for the district. So we'll start working on that tomorrow for you. Yeah, thank you. You more eloquently put what I was trying to get out. So thank you for that. So I think I want to thank you for it, but I don't like the timeline. It's already sounds pretty short. Yeah, I think we have a lot of discussion to have. And so Terry or Cindy, someone send us the. what you

107just presented. It allows us at least to have some reference point. Maybe a link to the list. We'll put this presentation that you saw tonight in the public content so that you can see that there in the public and the public can take a look at it as well. Okay, that'll work. And then everyone just... dive into that thing and see where we come from. I think it'd be a good idea for everybody to make themselves a little bit of a list, maybe three or four things that you would prefer to see, and then we can start some conversation. We just wish we had more money. That's always going to be the thing, though. We only have one board meeting in July. Is that correct? That's correct. It's about, I believe, the third week of

108July. Obviously, we can choose differently if the board so chooses. But what I wanted to make sure tonight is you see it, you know a number. Sounds like if you go geo, Ryan, would be around four. And so I say that because then you can begin to look at this and say, okay, what do I prioritize as a board that would fit under that? And then we start getting this back and I'll keep it on the board agendas each time until you tell me you guys are ready to move forward. And Terry, one thing that I was thinking about too, is you kind of gave an estimate for that early childhood. Is that pretty rock solid? And have you even thought about doing anything like plans for that or where, what would be good to

109maybe between now and our next conversation to get a better number for that? I'm basing it on another school district that's doing it now. And like I said, their school district's more than half the size of this one, and their building is about 3.2 million. Okay. And so... I mean, obviously, we could try to design something that maybe could be added on to try to accommodate today's needs because I assume it's just going to keep growing, and it's all good. And we talked about internally potentially that maybe it's near the learning center now, or we do have green space over there where we could potentially make that work. Well, and if nothing else, maybe we find a way to make something like that fit our budget with the ability to add to it. if we

110had more money eventually to take some of the pressure off the elementary schools. The space is obviously tight. And, you know, a place like Horseman that can't have preschool is crazy. They're one of the biggest elementary schools we have. So if we could just take the pressure off of them. Now, if we told you tomorrow, we wouldn't have it next year, right? So how long would it take for us to even get it built? Right. Design-wise, on our end, it would take nine months or so to design it and get approvals. It's going to take approvals with the city. and getting infrastructure in place and just figuring all that out. So it would be a construction project that would start in 27. Okay. And for the board's purpose, you know, keep in mind the 1,

1113, 5, 10 year. What are we trying to get done and when? And really start. mapping this out with future funding and based on our needs. I really would love a tangible item based on board and our work to say, here's the immediate, we can do these, here's the future, and here's our priorities. And I think that would benefit all involved with this list. Mr. Allen, just a quick question for my mind. Are technology and transportation connected at the hip? Do they have to go together in the same building? Well, I don't think so. I mean, it's a good question. I would assume probably not. That's probably a better question for... Mr. Thornsberry or Mr. Brimberry, yeah. Yeah, we looked at it when we went out because I thought it was odd when I went

112out and looked at the building because obviously transportation made sense. But like this building wasn't designed for technology. And if you go see where it is, you'd be like, holy cow, they just jammed it into a space and made it work. I've always thought that technology should probably be on somewhere else rather than in transportation and maintenance because that's more grease. Diesel fuel, oil, and not technology. But I think they ended up there because there was space. A few of you may know that story and understand that a little better, but I assume it's just, okay, where do we have space? Okay, that's where they're going. The story being where they're at currently was because they grew out of the space in that same building, and that was the open space at the time. Maintenance

113is actually in the old technology space. So start thinking about that, Mr. Stornsberry, and imagine that. Anybody have anything else? Mr. Thornsberry, I appreciate you very much. This is Babcock. Thank you. I will take a motion to adjourn. Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Is there a second? Thank you, Mr. McClellan. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Those opposed?