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RSU 20 June 10th, 2026 Regular School Board Meeting

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2026-06-05
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001I've been acting in a lot of movies. In my early life, I lived in London, England, and then moved to the U.S. My fame really started in 1924 with my beautiful violet eyes and striking beauty. I've been married seven times and have four children. Their names are Lizzie Todd, Maria Barton, Mitchell Wilding Jr., and Christopher Wilding. Mitchell Wilding Jr. and Christopher Wilding's dad was Mitchell Wilding. Lizzie Todd's dad was Mike Todd, and Maria Barton's dad was Richard Barton. I love being famous and it's so much fun. I love all the people I've met along the way. I won 11 awards for acting in different movies. The awards I got were one Academy, four Golden Globe, two BAFTA, and last one Choice Award. I won them from 1967 to 1993. The famous quote I used to

002say is, when people say I've had it all, I say I've not had tomorrow. Some movies I've acted in were A Place in the Sun and Father of the Bride. I died due to conjecture heart failure at Wright's Swim Thrift in 2011 in Cedars-Sinai, North Lissabon. Hi, my name is Eugenie Clark. I was born on May 4th, 1922 in New York City. I get the widest nickname, the Sharkling, because I learned to trim the metrics. I also had a lot of knowledge of sharks. I learned to swim before the age of two. When my mom went to sell my magazines, she would drop me off at the deep end and that widened my introduction to news. I was inspired by William Levy and exploring right around the natural history. When I was in school, I

003made a picture of an underwater wolf and it happened up on the wall. Somewhere out in Big Lettuce, Joplin had tried blowing my mom in. Instead of taking his heart, I used his political character. My career is in theology. This is made of fish, sharks, rays, sawfish, and more. I was famous for my activity with fish and sharks. I discovered the trend theory of chestnicking a fish in the Red Sea. I trained them and sharks to move a target to see through. This work helped change any of the shark's eye intelligence. My fame started in 1955 because of the moment I met a shark. My famous quote is, the more I study the ocean, the more I realize how lonely we are. I have a lot of books from Afghanistan such as Shark Lady, Lady

004and the Sharks, Swimming with Sharks, Lady with a Spear, and Eugenie Clark. Fish Watching, Genie, A Bridge of the Shark Lake, Dr. Eugenie Clark and Eugenie Shark. I was popularly recognized and respected after. I'm married five times and have four children. My death was in February 2015 due to lung cancer. I helped change how people saw sharks and grew them in a much more strategic sense. I inspire people to take the big risks, do what they love, and keep trying. My name is Annie Eppley, but my real name is Phoebe Ann Moser. I was born on August 13, 1860, in Ohio. I dreamed of being the first female Superstar. My goal was proven to men that girls can shoot, too. My father died when I was young, then I had to be sent to the

005poor farm. I left my home when I was 33 and 18, and moved somewhere else. One place I moved to was Cambridge. My career was sharpshooter. My parents were also sharpshooters. I was famous at the age of 15 for sharpshooting. I got famous when I beat Frank Butler in shooting contest. Then I married Frank Butler. We were together for 50 years, but we did not have any kids. I shot 25 out of 25 targets in a row. I was inducted into the Sharp Shooting Hall of Fame in 1969. I kept shooting until 62 years old. I was in a lot of superstars, ninnies, and boos. I taught more than 15,000 women how to use guns. I am not alive to this day. I died from blood disease in Greenville, Ohio on November 3, 1926. One

006of my favorite quotes is, I would like to see every woman know how to handle guns as naturally as they handle babies. I change people's lives because I believe that a woman can be sharpshooted and I encourage men to follow their dreams. Hi, my name is Ruth Peter-Hansford. Some people call me R.B.K. as for March 15, 1933 in Brooklyn, New York, I wanted to make a society with full gender equality. My real name is Joan Ruth Bain, but in kindergarten there were too many people in the jury, so I changed it to my middle name Ruth. I was famous from 1993 to 2020. I was in my 60s when I became famous. My career was as a lawyer, jurist, and judge. I became famous at the ACLU, the American Civil Living Union. I also made

007it so 9th and 9th grade, I won every single one. I was inspired by my mom, Celia. I had an older sister named Marilyn. I went to a school named Cornell University on a full scholarship. When I was a kid, I didn't move a whole lot. I was bullied at school because of my gender. Even though people bullied me, I became the second woman and first Jewish person to serve in the Supreme Court. I enjoyed being famous. I was respected even after I became famous. I was in and famous until I died. I continued my career until I died. I got married to Martin D. Gingsburg in 1954 and had two children, a daughter, June, and a son, James. I died in 2020 in Washington, D.C. I died because of pancreatic cancer. Most of my

008parents were proud of me, but most of them are not. My famous quote is, fight for the things you care about, but do it in a way that will lead others to joy. My full name is Mary Steven Casale. My birthday is May 22, 1844. I was born in Adler, Virginia, Pennsylvania. I grew up in my daughter's school during the Civil War. I was famous for my paintings of children and mothers. I was an impressionist style of painter. I was inspired by my mother. I have four siblings. Their names were Linda. Alexander, Robert, and Josiema to Dundania. I went to Pentium Union Academy of Arts. I left my home when I was 22. I went to Paris, France to learn more about painting. I was famous for a mirror. In 1877, I met a graduate

009class and learned a passionate story from them. I was famous for 35 years. I became famous in Paris, France. I was most famous in the late 1870s. I was a painter and also a printmaker. I did not get married. I did not have kids. I was recognized as an artist in France, more in the U.S. There are several books and movies about my life. I painted it until I was 70 and almost blind. People are inspired by me because my soft impressions are. I'm not alive today. I died on June 14, 1926. I died in France. My parents were not proud of me because they didn't want me to be a professional artist. They also didn't want me to be exposed to new ideas about woman rights. One of my famous quotes is, I'm independent,

010I go on the loan, and I love to work. And just picture a whole gym full of fifth graders. And truly, I was there for an hour and hit every single student. And they were flawless. Every one of them. Well done. Well done. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you for having us. Thank you very much. We will be doing this next year if anybody would like to. I'll put in a meet-up for everybody. Thank you. Well done, friends. Thank you, guys. You're welcome. Doesn't she? I know. She looks like she was great at getting her breakfast ready. I'm sitting there going, I have RBT earrings, and I find the most fascinating about her is that she went to her husband's law school classes and took his notes when he was struggling with cancer.

011And then took her own on top. Law school was not a fate for women in Harvard. And she didn't cook. He did all the cooking. I would appreciate him that. Well done. for those students to memorize, to go through that entire process, memorize, and then produce in front of an audience is an amazing process. And they talk a lot, as did Mark Quigley and I did, talk a lot about how to manage your nervousness. all the strategies and then come back afterwards and say I was able to work through that really hard. situation and that's an important place. And these kiddos all volunteered. I just said to Trish and Emma and they have more but they were like how much time do we have? I think probably both full classes would have come. I said

012exactly and I said oh that might be tricky. So if we could give them 10 minutes. This is great. Make a motion to accept the board minutes from the 5-12-26 meeting. Second. Any questions or comments? All in favor? Against? Abstain. I know it's Tom. Sweet from the raise of hands. Okay. Consent agenda. No action required from the 5-12-26 finance meeting, the draft policy committee meeting, or the Waldo County Tech Center. Any questions? We'll do a report later on, I believe. Yep, later on. Public participation. I see none. Report from the administration. I believe you have it in your packet. Any questions regarding this? Julie? I just wanted to give a shout-out to the high school team. I thought graduation was amazing, very well done. So congratulations. I will do a follow-up for the... Kids that

013graduated what a full house that gymnasium had it was Amazing you could hear him coming a mile away and those kids just beamed It was very good job well done Josh and Bill and the rest of the administration Josh Brady had the floor ready to go it was Everything was perfect. It then it was cool because of the new handling system You can still vote on it Yep, you can. Committee reports. Finance committee. We met tonight. Everything seems good. We had an 8%. We're looking at 8%. We're still sitting on 21.59%, but that's due to a lot of the summer program coming up. Searsport was one month behind, but we haven't checked the mail yet, so that might be something different. Everything else, we... talked about the bus garage and I think we're gonna do

014a follow-up later in the agenda. I think she'll give an update and other than that it's looking pretty good. Any questions, comments? Policy Committee, Chris? Yes, Policy Committee met on Tuesday, May 26th. We are continuing to work down through the list of policies to make sure they are updated. and reflect the most recent information, laws, et cetera. We got through a total of three that we're bringing to you this evening for a first reading. And then we have a couple, well, just one, I guess, BEDH, that we are going to be discussing. I don't remember what we did with EEBA. I had a note here that we were going to have a conversation about that, the vehicles. Anybody remember what that was about? I have to go back and look at policy minutes to see.

015I'm sorry I didn't remember that one. And while she's looking for that, we do have a number of policies that are coming back to you this meeting for a second reading. And we just keep plugging away. You guys have been doing a lot. I mean, I know it takes time to go back and do them, but you guys are hitting them. quite a bit and we do appreciate it. I know it takes time but you've done a good job. Thank you. What was the policy name? Because I don't see that on last. Well maybe we didn't get to it. EEBA. I don't remember. School on Vehicles. We didn't get to it. That's where we'll start next meeting. Thanks Laura for looking that up. Anybody have a follow up before? Alright. Thank you Chris and Ruth.

016Waldo County Tech Center. Julie. So Travis continues to gather details about creating a CDL program. One of the options being considered is using a simulator for students to gain some of their contact hours. And another idea was to reach out to businesses to use CDL drivers to see if they could help pay for the cost of needed trucks and or the student fees. Jess, Travis, and Cora from Rural Aspirations have conducted the listening, visioning sessions in all three districts. And a few of the main points that were clearly made from all three districts were that the communities are supportive of our CTE program. The tech center needs more space and more programs and could they get local businesses to help pay for some of the costs of the needed improvements? Those are some of the

017questions. All of the CNA students successfully passed their exams. 25 seniors have signed up for the SkillsUSA program. 20 students were inducted into the National Honor Society and 80 seniors were recognized in a ceremony on May 27th where 24 scholarships were awarded. Thank you. I do have a question. I think I asked this before. When they talked about the CDL, I asked if they had contacted H.O. Bushard or Pottles or anybody within the Hamden-Herman area. facilities and we still didn't get an answer to that either but they all are trucking companies they all I believe a lot of the trainings done right there right across from a to a bush out in the big fields there and I asked them to do a follow-up but I'm not so sure that they looked into that I

018think we talked also about The different businesses that you asked in your report that they're asking to pay, I think there was a conversation about that also. I would believe that it would have to pass the board to accept any monetary donations. I believe that's policy. I don't know if he's looked into that, but that, I believe, is a policy that you have got to bring forth to the board. Any donations, I believe it would be the same policy that we would have here. I'm not sure, but I think so. I will bring both of those up at our next meeting. Yeah, and I think I did before, but he just, I don't know. Any other comments from our report? I do have one more follow-up. They're talking about needing a new space. I believe

019it's further on in the program tonight. I think they sent us a program here, and I believe I'm going to bring this up, whether it's here or now. I can count 20 kids from the Ecology Center and other high schools. There seems to be a total of 20 children. We are sending the projection for next year's 15 students, and we are being billed $15,000. Where is the money in this project that they're paying their share for the 20 students? I can't seem to find it in the budget. If you look on this page right here, Julie, you can find 20 other students from the AM and the PM. But curious about who's paying for that. And I do believe that we sent a letter. Back in May to the tech center and we've asked several

020and that was one question And I believe it was May 15th and the tech center still has not answered our questions that we have as a board had sent a letter out to So I also I believe we're going to do another follow-up I'll push out that letter again today tonight or tomorrow. So so that would be my concerns about these 20 students with it paying Thank you Tony is a Santa Tony So quick question, of course I'm late to the game, but what is the concept and idea of the CDL program at the Tech Center? Are they planning on the students coming out of there with a CDL like they do a CNA or is it because what I'm afraid students coming out of high school with a CDL are going to find is

021that most businesses and insurance companies will not insure them until they reach the age of 25. So I'm wondering how... Did they say 18? 18. Depending on... Like, biking is 25. You have to be 25. They mentioned 18 at the meeting. So I wondered if they polled the local businesses to ask them, if we have a student that gets a CDL coming out of the school, are you able to employ them? Good question. Yeah, they talked about if they are going to be driving like around town, they only had to be 18. If they were going to drive on the interstate, they had to be 21. I will say this. With the U.S. Postal Service, they cannot even be hired to drive a vehicle until they're 21. And that's with a regular vehicle. They cannot

022be employed until they're 21 to drive a vehicle. And the other thing is the cost of the insurance, right? So they may be able to drive, but if it's going to cost them five times or three times, whatever, to insure somebody under that age versus over that age, they're less likely to, a lot of companies are not going to take on that. So I would ask about, I'd dig down on the insurance thing a little bit more too, not just the age of whether they'll hire them, but insurability. Good questions. I have one more too. I have one more too. Yes. I'm going to get a little fire on the other end. He also, in your report, he proceeds to tell that they need a new building. Is that correct? That's Travis's philosophy. And we

023have attended meetings, and the first one is 20 million. for X and 40 million for Z, 90 million for X, Y, and Z, and the final cost that he forgot to tell us with the whole structure and take all the high schools for every Waldo County high school. There would be no more high schools in Waldo County. It would be at the Tech Center. That was a $200 million bill. if he gets the way that he forecast in the future. But the $20 and the $40 million is to fix what we have. And his numbers here, and I'm not, his numbers, he says $211, and if I recall, we asked him, I asked him that night. how many students are actually 11th and 12th grade? And I believe the answer was 150. So 61 of

024these students are actually 9th and 10th graders that we have allowed to go. So the school really wouldn't be bursting at the seams if it was only what the original intent was for 11th and 12th grade students, I believe. I'm just making that up. But according to this with all the kids going next year is only 211 students So I would have the same question because I went to the tech center B I was on that board for many years and I'm looking at the number of classes compared to the number of students, A, when I went, B, when I was on the board, and we were well over 300. So I question the space versus the I want a new building to look pretty concept. I mean, these trades, auto collision, you don't want

025a pretty building for auto collision. You don't want a pretty building for diesel mechanic. I mean, you don't need a pretty building for carpentry. I question the whole concept. I question the concept of a comprehensive high school simply for the fact that if you pull 15 to 20 percent of these students from these schools, high schools are going to have to consolidate again because if you lose 15 to 20 kids in Searsport, you can't afford to run that high school and offer the same programs. So that's my concern with the whole concept when I heard about it. If we was more populated, There were 700 to 800 kids in each school. And to be clear, it's not just the students that are signing up. What they're talking about with this application is all of our

026high school students. Not just the I know but I Tony that so it would be all of our 125 130 kiddos 9 to 12 there would be no more It would be no more high school at any of the three districts with this vision that they're the application. That's the time All three districts would be K districts That just that's that Julie correct. That's what came on the media. I asked a big question finally and finally got an answer That's the 200 million. That's overall picture. That's what the application is for, to close down. So I don't have amnesia, but if they think back 15 years ago, we tried two simple schools in neighboring towns. I can't even comprehend the clash. For the three. For the three. And actually before. Especially with the transportation. Yeah,

027I don't. I don't buy it. It's also, I mean, like, I understand the concept of having, you know, like they said they wanted to be able to do more than one car and have more students. I get that. But if you're doing that, I'm looking at our district, right? 80% of us, 80% of these students are under the poverty level, and now we're going to add an extra barrier of having kids in here and then other kids there, and you've got working parents, and there's no daycare and after school for the other kids. And, you know, it just, it... Sounds great on paper, but then the thing is we're displacing students to get an education that may not want to be part of the tech center, right? And then you're separating families and financial burdens

028and bus routes, and then not to mention all the positions, like all those teachers are gone. They can't all possibly do that one school. So you're getting rid of... a lot of, and then we still have to pay to get all these students here, right? And how are we getting them back? And not everybody wants to go to the tech center. And there's just way too many questions for my comfort level at this point, especially with a price tag like that. Can I ask what the tech budget is now? Is it that scary? Do you have that rate, the total? I just want a total for you on record, I guess, out loud. out the $69.60 assessment. So the budget itself. Thank you. The budget itself is for $2,930,488.77. And we're being assessed how much?

029$15,000 is our portion. It's almost three. Lacking $69,000. Any other comments? Personnel, nothing. We did not meet. Buildings, grounds, and transportation, we did not meet. As I said, that work done in the air handlers and the gymnasiums truly made a big plus. I didn't see people fanning themselves like they used to. Old business, impossible vote. RSU 20, strategic plan graphic. I think it's beautiful. Yeah, I think it's beautiful. This here. Is this one of the... Yes, it's gorgeous. So the admission statement, which you already voted on, and it has three goals. It's not the long-winded goals. It's, again, a shortened... But it's something that we could create posters and things like that. And Josh, Mr. Toothaker, as he's working with... He asked for things, they asked for these kinds of things that we probably could

030explain that we can share the long version but also the short version. But I didn't want... assume that you would like this graphic to use on? Well, I'm going to make a motion to accept the strategic plan graphic. Second. Any more questions, comments? All in favor? Anonymous? The logo and motto. Okay. You have two pages. And people that are sitting in the audience, I made all kinds of extra documents. So we had... 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, I think it's 11 submissions for logos. We put it out there. We ask people to submit. It's really interesting, I think. Compared to, I think, when we did the logo 20 years ago, whatever it was, they were done by hand. They're not anymore. It's done by computer, by things like that. There is one, just so I'll

031give you notice, the one on number 7 on the second page, that was done by hand. So that one was done by hand. Everything else was done by, I think, computer generated is what it appeared to us. RJ collected these. When we had sent out the invitation, we asked based on what was voted on in the board that we were looking for something with an anchor. We were looking for something with a compass rose, and we were looking for something that said the statement anchored in community, charting a course for success. It would be great to... You're so wonderful. It would be great for me to turn on my speakers so I could talk more. Discussion, and it would be great if we could vote on something tonight, that we could find a logo that

032you... Or put it back out if you say there's really nothing there. I have a favorite. I'm going to make a motion to accept it just so we can discuss it. Second. Open for discussion now. All right. I love all of these. I really do. If I were to, I'm leaning, I do have a question about number nine because the background being gray makes it kind of hard to see. But I am really somehow 11 is really sticking out to me. I just think it's clear. It's concise. I like the way they chose to do the wrapping. I don't know, like all of them are very, very nice, but number 11 just went bam to me. Okay. I also like number 11. However, I'm wondering if we can make adjustments. And I don't know what

033they would be, but I'm just asking if we have to stick to the submission as it is, or can we make slight adjustments? Again, what's your pleasure? Generally, when you ask people to submit, you take it as it is. Though no one has put, we didn't put names. I mean, these have been generated through AI. I mean, I don't know if technically anyone can call them their own, except that they put the queries into AI to create these, but it gets tricky. I also really love the artistry of number seven. I like that that person submitted their own artwork. I really like. It was one of our high school students just a year later. I think any one that we choose, I think it needs to say RSU 20 because if I was to receive

034an envelope with this here, I'd probably throw it in the garbage thinking it was junk mail. Good point. Because it doesn't identify who we are. I will also say that I like what you used here. That would be a very nice logo as well. And it's very similar to number 11. That's a good point. And so I guess that's why I was asking if we can manipulate these at all because what you have in the graphic here, I mean, the design is the same. It's just a little more detailed, and I like the detail in this graphic that you used. Is it possible, and I don't know what the board thinks about that, but let's say we did pick number 11. Could we go back to the creator and say, could you find a way

035to implement the RSU 20 on there? I also think it's the most similar to the strategic plan, and I just think it looks really sharp. I agree. It just sticks out. Just so you know, that was my favorite, and I didn't even notice that it didn't have RSU 20, which is really interesting. I didn't either. You said it, and I'm sorry. Of course, that makes sense, but I agree. 11 was my favorite as well. Mine too. So I'm going to be that guy. What's the financial impact of changing our logo? I don't know that. So I don't know what's on Go Ahead, Chandra. Paper-wise. I can't answer that right now, Tony. What do we have it on that? I mean, like, so all of my letterheads, that's pretty easy to just... Right, we can change

036the letterhead ourselves. I'm not sure what else we have that impacts the logo itself because we've been using the Viking. We've been using the... The seal. The knot. We've been using, you know... The Sears point on every seal. The seal, that's right, the seal. So, you know, bringing everything together just so that you have one. The only thing I can think that has a knot on it that needs to be replaced is a digital signage out front of the middle high school. And that's just a simple translucent piece of vinyl that we could probably figure out someone to replicate and replace that. We didn't see it in many places because the high school, one of the things that we talked about was the Searsport Viking, that are we shifting that, yes, that's our mascot, and

037everyone's going to use that. And I think that was agreed that, yes, we want everyone to go with the mascot of the Viking. But at the elementary level, we've had conversations about making it a bit more kid-friendly. So can it be that there are... kid Vikings as opposed to the big burly high school Viking that Yeah, we have it with the ax and so you know so there could be some some leeway in that direction, but yeah Do you want to put this on hold and have me try to bring back something, either the current number 11 with RSU 20 in there and this one as well that's on the strategic plan and see if I can bring that one back with charting a course for success with the statements on it and RSU 20?

038To look at the next time? No, you're talking number 11 but at RSU 20. Or, Ruth also said this one that's on the graphic, trying to pull something similar to that, but this also needs RSU 20 and it also needs the words that we had suggested, which is anchored in community, chatting, of course. Which could easily be done up the side and the 20 could be a toss right here. Where the rope is across the top, you could slightly, hopefully. I think I could play with both of those. bring something back to you for the next meeting and put this on hold? Or... I like that idea. I also have a question about what... I forget what the prize was, if you will, for winning. I don't think we had it. Just bragging rights. Correct.

039And I don't even know the names. So when RJ put these in a folder, and he shared them with me separately so we have no names and things like that, we could go back and find that. But the email that went out, that was just anybody that's interested. And we put it out on our Facebook page. And most of these are internal. They came from internal. Maybe one was a community member. So they're either students and faculty? Correct. So as a follow-up to their submission, will they get some kind of letter or some kind of appreciation or... I can do that. Acknowledgement. Acknowledgement. That would make sense. And I wonder if we make a statement about when we choose... who the winner or whose submission was chosen. And could we give an honorable mention or

040something like that to one of them? I don't know. I'm just really thinking about the person who took the time to hand-draw. That there should be some kind of recognition. Can do. So yes, bring back. something in the next meeting? I'm going to say yes. Table it until then. I will say that the one that we are going with our plan, the anchor and stuff and that, it's actually close to classing and looking. Okay. But I do like the form and it absolutely has to say RSU 20. That's a great catch. It's so funny that none of us noticed that. I know. I'm enjoying it. But I do like the anchored in community and the chat and, of course, for the future success. Okay. We good with that? Yes. New business. Ratify the budget. Yay.

041It is very nice to see a budget pass the first time around. And I believe the difference is like 400 and something between the two towns, that yays to nays. So the affirmative was 938 and the negative was 444. Laura has the motion to read. This is the one I'm going with? Correct. Please. Please. Voted that the computation and declaration of the votes dated June 9th, 2026 and attached here to be approved. Further voted that the computation and declaration of votes be entered upon the records of regional school unit number 20. Further voted that a certified copy of the computation and declaration of votes be sent to each of the municipal clerks of the member municipalities within regional school unit number 20. Further voted that funds appropriated to the contingency reserve fund sweep account, sorry,

042sweep articles are hereby allocated to the regular instruction cost center. Motion? Second. I can't motion. You're first. It was motion. It was motion. It was a question. Sorry. It's black. It has to be black. Second. Thank you. It was over there. I was going to say, I remember looking at him laughing because it's like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We share here. It's on your head. I lost mine. Ruth got me a pen. I gave them to Mark last time we met. I have to blame Mark. I think that's true, too, because I did that. I think we were getting ready to leave. I think Mark even said, hey, where are my pens? I said, we're going to keep them here. I said, I don't know where they are. They're not in that one. Are

043they in yours by any chance? Whose is that one? Oh. Yours is on the end. I know. I already checked that one. I know it was late when I gave them to you, though. No, she would not. Mrs. Bagley would not be. Thank you. You know, I'm going to speak a little bit more in regards to that budget. I don't know what our schedule is, or who's even in charge next month, but the towns like to see us at the Selectmen's meeting. They like to question us. They might not like our answers, but they do like to question us. Yes, I think it's a practice that we have to continue. I think they like being involved. as much as possible. It is just a good practice and I think we really need to continue it

044in the future. I agree. I think it shows value that we value them as much as we'd like them to value the work that we're doing. Thank you. Anybody else comment on that? Okay. Job descriptions. Wait a minute. 11.2. What is that one? WCTC partnership. Oh, yes. Sorry, I put it over here. Do you want to elaborate or do you want me to? So I received an email, Denise received an email, was it just this week or late last week? I can't remember, early this week, and said that they were sending out a form letter asking whether we will or will not support. Waldo County Tech Center moving forward with the application process. As part of the process, they have to have two signing districts of the three that are willing to support the application.

045I gave you a copy of the letter in your... on top of your packet tonight. It doesn't mean, it says, that if we provide support that we're committing to whatever happens after. It's just saying that you're supporting the application process. If you do that, though, Julia is aware that two of our board members have to commit to being part of summer work, and it will be a lot of summer work to... do all the steps of the application. So Denise was sent that, but it needs to come to a board vote tonight, and we need to sign either yay or nay. I'm going to follow up. Number one is we sent a letter out May 15th, I believe it is. We requested information for what we as a board asked him to supply us with.

046Here it is June 10th. We have not received a response back from the tech center with all five questions I Believe that when we asked him about the budget about the students We are paying $15,000 to send 15 students we inquired about the 20 students from the Ecology and the other high school send in this 20 students we asked them what their share was to go to the tech center. We asked him for more information in regards to his presentation and we still have not received it. So I'm recommending that we do not sign this paper tonight. We sent that letter twice, right? No, tonight will be the second sending. We did a different letter the first time. Okay, so we've sent two letters of inquiry. Correct. This is the second, a different one. But

047yes, you are correct. And we will be sending the third one after our meeting tonight in regards to they still didn't give us any information. And Laura... Dr. Miller will be meeting with Mr. Woods on Friday. And tonight, with this letter that he sent to us to sign on as a second high school or one of the two high schools, I'm recommending we do not. Can someone explain, it says high schools, minimum of two or one regional high school. Two I mean I thought two high schools is two high schools But the ecology will not be a participating Signage because they are not a member of the Waldorf County Tech Center So and I asked mr. Woods about that again and also it's in a second letter and I said When did their high school?

048in unity become a part of the Waldo County Tech Center. And I also asked, or we asked, what was their cost, but it's never been voted on as a three sending schools that they're actually a voting member of the Tech Center. They're not. And I, you cannot just add a high school. They might be able to tuition to go there. Just as any high school can tuition the kids to go anywhere, but that it cannot be a voting member of this. Because aren't all three districts regional high schools? Yes. That's why this is very confusing. Because we incorporate more than one town. A high school is usually of one town. Like Bangor High School. Bangor, Portland, right? Okay. But if you're incorporating more than one town, you become a regional high school. Correct? Regional district.

049I'm not comfortable signing this. You guys are going to regret me being back here. Who has done all the technical analysts? Who's collected all the data? Who is, this to me is, the cart is in Belfast and the horses are in Stockton. Somebody's got an idea. Yep. And there is nowhere near enough data from people who have been doing this a lot longer than the names I read here. to even make me even consider even signing on to let's look at the concept. And I think that was phase one. Phase one was looking at the concept. They were able to go forward with that. They think they only need one signature. So my question is, who did that? Our issue three was an interim superintendent. So as I said, the amount of experience to build

050a regional high school has got to come from people. for many many years of The ins and outs that's my fear right there. The cart is way before the horse So Jess woods was a chair out to the tech center. She is officially resigned in the end of this month The vice chair is not signing on board to take over the workload they did a study to bring, well they hired a firm to come in and do an evaluation of the tech center with a what could be fixed and what is my wish list. The wish list is a grant that they came upon that would help finance a new school. But it's not a grant. It's a project. They made that very clear. It wasn't it's free money supposedly they don't really have a

051total cost and The second phase is that now they want all the send in high schools To close their high schools and go to this tech center That's the gist of it. So there's as I said the 20 million dollar list the 40 million dollar list the $90 million list and the $200 million list. Well, that's what they did at some of the meetings that they had over at the tech center. They tried doing the explaining that. They did an envisioning like the students would be able to go full time. They could make the bays bigger. They would have classrooms within the shop, within the welding room. They would have their own bathrooms, their own changing rooms. This was like state of the art. You know that CNA room I think that that location expanded

052exponentially they were looking at the barbering so like they were actually looking at whatever the programs are I don't even know if they included adding the CBL at that point but looking at the programs that are currently in existence and Some of those spaces got doubled and tripled and it had inside Teachers would have their own office in the space. There would be a classroom in the space. They'd have bathrooms and changing rooms and all the spaces. So like it is, the programming isn't adding other than possibly CDL, but they would just be doubling. Like the car thing, I think doubled like four times or something. So they could have like six cars in there versus two. And they were going to. teach the regular classes too. It was coming, except that they were going

053to expand the CT part of it. But the other part, they were going to educate for college bound and everything in the same school. It was part, am I right? Yes. And again, it was 9 to 16, so that kiddos could take dual enrollment. There were students that would... Instead of being at the tech center for a half of a day or a full day, if you wanted to take a class, you could just pop in for one class and still go back and take the other classes, whether it's college-bound or career-bound, whatever it is, within the school. It was offering a wider variety. It would force us to be a K-8 or all of them to be K-8. There would be no high schools anywhere but at this. And they really didn't feel that

054they could build this. a big of a facility where it's standing now, so they would have to find a new place. The words they use were centrally located, which translated into Belfast. All interesting questions. Josh did you want to say something? Only that the work that would happen this summer, I think it's October 1st or October 30th. 31st. 31st. That's the work they need to establish a governance structure. So whatever districts sign on, they need to figure out what a board would look like and how decisions are made in cost sharing and all that before the application can move forward. So when we were asked, I... Do not believe we should sign on board. That's my own opinion, but I said I'd bring it to you. Do you want to make a motion? I didn't

055hear you. Do you want to make a motion? I'll make a motion to not sign on board. Second. Any more discussion? Comments? All in favor of not signing on board? Abstain? Or yes? Abstain. And we didn't mean to put you in a bad spot. I know you're out there. Comes to the table. And that second letter will also go out tonight. Can you share it with me? Of course I can. And he has a copy already. We're just going to forward another one or ask for the answers. So you'll see it right here. You need a minute? It just says room in bold. You all set? We're the open mic. 11.2, job descriptions. My, my, my. Part of my job description is to pay attention to job descriptions. So when I, Shannon and I have

056been working with the admin team and we realized some of them haven't been touched in 20 years. So I have shared, I started with just the admin team. Well, there's a couple extra, but the admin team and our central office team, we've asked people to take a look at them and make recommendations, suggestions. You can see that all but two of them. There's some recommended changes in those. So if we went down through, I don't know if you want to take these one at a time, but they have been vetted by all of us. Everybody's looked. We've talked about it in the MIM team. We think that they're fair and appropriate. We've looked at other districts to make sure we're on the end. They're just some minor changes, but they're not huge. Out of curiosity,

057just because we don't have necessarily all of them right in the MIM. In the spirit of saving time. On the job descriptions, does it have a component that explains to them there'll be either quarterly or yearly evaluations? Is that part of the job description so folks coming in know that that's an expectation? That's a good question. I don't know. I don't think so in a job description. Is that common not coming? At some point, is that because I know that that's something that may not, that we really want to make sure we do. And so where would the new people, when they're looking at the job descriptions, where would they know? So here I'm pulling up director of maintenance right now. So performance of this job will be evaluated annually in accordance with this document

058by the superintendent school. So yes, it's there. So hopefully they all have something. And I can assure you that all administrators have been evaluated and actually their evaluations filed, signed. We've had meetings. We've had, yep. So they're done. And all administrators are still in the process, but before the end of the year, all staff will have been evaluated. Thank you. We've got to make a motion first before we continue to talk. I'm going to take these as one if nobody has any objection. I'm going to make a motion to accept A through M on the job descriptions, and that's in the form of a motion. Second. Any questions, comments? I have one. I need a space on F after principal. I just don't know how it's written up on the thing because I can't see

059it. So I just want a space there. It's killing me. So I appreciate that you said... All of them, but food service director, no changes. Yeah, I know, but what's that? Okay, but you're going to take them anyway? I'm going to take them anyways because we're going to approve this as they are. And tech director, we did in December. The other caveat that I just received in the mail today is that there is a new law that's been passed with job descriptions, and MSSA has just shared with me some examples that we now have to certify. with every person that we interview and hire that they don't have any background information that would make them unfit. We have to actually do background checks on everybody. And we have to show that we have contacted DOE

060and we have to report if something pops up. So if I interview Ms. Ruth and even if... Because I'm looking at you. All right. And even if I'm not hiring her, something pops up in the check, I have to report it. The superintendent has to be called. And that's the law now. It's the law. So it might change. I don't think it will change the job description. I think it will just change the application process. I mean, the application process. That should be somewhere on there, right? I would add that on the application or on the website that due to law, whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah, this is what done. Did they send you a sample background form questions that you should be asking? because you don't want to get in a situation, because I've

061seen this happen in state government, where they say, oh, well, we asked Dr. Miller this question, but we asked Ms. Braga a different question, and then there's an issue because the same question. I think it's less about the question. I think it's about we run them through the real estate. It's not anything to do with that. Right, the main state background check. That's not a good question. That's different. Background check versus background investigation are two different things. Okay, so you're talking actual legal background checks and not the following background. Criminal record kind of thing. Okay, not calling their prior employers. Correct. Okay, got it. Correct. Did you say just the state of Maine background check or is it a... That's a good question. It says back in the check. I think it came from Maine,

062but I think it's open. Ruth and I had a discussion. I think it stemmed from what happened out in Minnesota out there when they had a superintendent who was there for years and didn't have a certificate to teach. Right. They're now flagging, and what they're going to be doing is they're going to be flagging through the, is it MIAS, whatever it's called, the system where we all have our certification, that there'll be a flag that shows anybody that's looking that. Oh. Not to be considered. Yeah, that's and it's everybody's right nice, which is fine Okay, it's a state law now and I don't think even in the contracts we We didn't post it. It just was state law. I believe it's My only question I already submitted it was do these need to go through

063personnel That was a fair question. Chris emailed and just said, should we pass them through personnel first before they came to you? And I said, I'm happy to take them back. I don't think so, but if they, not with a job description. Okay, I just thought I remembered job descriptions coming from personnel. No? Okay. I'm misremembering then. Well, you could be right. It's strange because that's what I said. I found it when we were looking. It's in my job description that I'm supposed to be checking and updating regularly, but it doesn't really give me a trail where I need to take them. I don't recall the job descriptions ever coming to us, but we haven't had a lot of meetings for the last few years either. Haven't they come to policy on occasion when there's

064been a question about something regarding policy and they came to us from personnel? It came to us from personnel. Okay. We can take it to personnel first, but I don't... It came from policy, right? They're not policy, though. That's the weird thing. They're not policy, so I don't know why they're not policy. I remember having that in some robust conversations. Sorry, robust conversations about that. See? I would pass that check. Any more questions? Comments? All in favor? Thank you. Waldo County Mutual Aid Agreement. So I think that you're all aware that we work with other districts all through Waldo County through the emergency management system and every year or every two years. boards are asked to sign the mutual aid, which means that if there's an incident in Searsport and Belfast and Thorndike send their

065buses to us, they don't charge us. It's in kind. And then if they need us, we send resources their way as well. And it could be marked through technology. It could be Josh that's manning C-STAG, whatever the issue is. It's trained personnel. We share social workers and guidance counselors if there's an emergency, things like that. So that's all it is. It's an agreement that it's for the next two years, 26 through 28, if there are no changes in the document from the prior year that you signed. So I'll make a motion to accept the Waldo County Schools Safety 2026 Mutual Aid Agreement as printed. Second. Any more questions, comments? All in favor? Thank you. Policies, first reading. Do you want to take them as one? Any objection? Okay. The first reading. I'll make a motion

066to accept. Do we need to vote? We have to now. We have to now. Oh, we do? We do. Remember we talked about that? Oh, that's right. It's policy. You have a policy that says that you have to vote. I was going to say it. I know. You want to know something really funny? I had to go back and check because when I was getting ready to do the minutes, I'm like, we don't vote on that. I remember that I was like, yeah, we do. Thanks for that reminder. Okay. Seconded by. This in form of a motion to accept JIC, Student Code of Conduct, DJI, thanks Ruth, no glasses here, Federal Procurement Manual for Maine School Units, Federal Procurement Manual, and CDKC Expense Authorization and Reimbursement. That's in form of a motion. Second. Any questions,

067comments? All in favor? We never used to vote on this. That was through your, Chris. Policy, second reading. Thank you, Ruth. Take them all as one if nobody objects. Okay. Form of a motion to accept JICJ cell phones and other personal electronic devices in schools. B, GBCC employee use of cell phones. C, DJH purchasing and contracting procurement staff code. Speaking of sign and chandra, I need those tonight. D, ECB, pest management in school facilities and on school grounds. E, CBE, notice of planned pesticide applications. ECF, energy conservation management in the schools. EDE, waste management and recycling. EEAE, school bus safety. And EEAF, use of district transportation by non-profit groups. And that's a form of a motion. Second. Thank you, Ruth. Any questions, comments? All in favor? Thank you. Policy for discussion. B-E-D-H. Do you want

068me to hit print? Sorry about that. I think we have it. Here we go. It's in my room. Oh. Where is it? If you kindly label it on my side. Of course. Oh, wait. I see. Oh. Under policies. Yeah. My stop's at B-E-D. Yeah, I think we need to look at it. Josh is grabbing it for us. Because we have to confirm the language. Yes, so this is public comment at school board meetings. It's in the very back of the book. It's in here. It's very back. It's in that. It's right there. Flip that page back. Oh, right here. It is. But that's not the red line one. Josh just hit print. I just hit print for Josh. You need a different one. That's our current one. Yes. So you're going to flip between the

069yes. Well, we have the current one that you're getting with the red lines and with the red words that show the new language, potential new language. I was going to say it is in here. Right, but that's the old one. It doesn't have the new language. that they want you to look at. Take your glasses again. I like those. Thank you. I should have brought mine in, but I'm sure yours were here. Mark, you have down for time. I thought we put them on that cart. Not for the last time. I thought we put them on that cart. Does not Amy remember that? No. I have another pair in my car. I have two pair in my car. I just didn't bring them in. I just brought my... Thank you. I have two pair. I

070just didn't bring them in because usually they're right here. Tony, did you go there yesterday? Was it yesterday you went to the office? Yeah. Is this one mine? I can introduce you while we're waiting. This is Beth Carter, and she is on the agenda for hire for our new part-time art teacher and Title I teacher at the elementary school. Hello. Very familiar. Have you been to Nickerson School lately? I was working Ellsworth and Surrey previously. That was a long time ago for me. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I didn't know that. I did know that. It's a small world, isn't it? And you've just seen her exercising her superpower. She always knows something. See, I'm not the only one. Okay, we have this. Oh, this was my fault. I'm sorry. This coming up for

071discussion is my fault. Okay. Do you want to bring it forward? Oh, no. Thank you. So we just wanted feedback on the language, right, Ruth? Right. So I was playing devil's advocate, Tony, in the meeting. They had recommended adding some very specific language, such as definitions for certain things like indecent and obscene. And these red pieces are the recommended definitions. Which I tend to always question. So was this before or after the latest ruling, I believe, which is only a month ago, in which they said you could not restrict people to what was on the agenda, you could not prohibit them to talk to your own personnel? So my, it was, this I think is before. But my bigger concern is if you look at some of the stuff that's going down in the southern

072part of the state where there was the big thing with the books. And I know Augusta has experienced this, and I think Lincoln has experienced this, where people were reading out loud, and board members were not comfortable with the language, but the people in the audience that were reading were reading from books. And so I was worried that if we do this, we're going to be curtailing the public's ability to come and say, hey, as a parent or guardian, I have an issue with my child having access to this or this being said or et cetera, and then they're using this rule to shut the public down. Obviously, we have to be aware of time and we can't be here for hours on end. And so I was a little concerned because I think someone

073else at the table said, well, they can bleep out the word. I'm like, if they bleep out the word, then it doesn't bring up across the parent concern. If there's something that's that inflammatory that we need to bleep it out, then should littles be looking at it? And so I didn't want the public to feel like they came here and their voices were going to be completely censored, but we also have to keep some type of order. And so I thought that maybe we should all have a conversation about it. And I know Mr. T brought up a good point about a lawsuit, and I can't remember what exactly, because I made a note. You did, because you were sitting next to me. No, like this is what happened. Wasn't there a district that didn't

074do this or did do this and something? Yes. There's been a couple of them. But what was the one in Augusta? Was it because this was not allowed or this was allowed? From what I understand, it was a guy that was cut. He wasn't allowed to speak. Right. Besides being... If they give him three minutes... they are allowed three minutes. That's when you cut somebody off. Correct. Unless they're going right off the deep end. Right. And this is what this policy, so anything that's underlined is suggested from the policy committee, new language, just so that you're aware. Anything that's underlined, we cross out anything that's there that we don't want. And then in red is where the policy committee had questions about should this language be added as well. because we agreed on the three

075minutes. What my concern was if section 8B. B specifically. Should we put in the definition to just leave it as using indecent or obscene language but not defining it? So the reason they want to define indecent and obscene is so that it's not left up to us as board members to define that. They want it defined in here so that I believe it protects us as board members. So our definition of indecent or obscene is different. And what I see happen at these board meetings, when facts are being shown from somebody reading a book that is in a school that a child can read, this is their excuse to shut them off because it's obscene. That's exactly what my concern was. At the same time, we don't want... And indecent really is, you're stopping somebody

076from their freedom of speech. And that's where schools are getting in trouble. Correct. People are going back and saying, you violated my First Amendment right. You didn't allow me to speak. Because the school board decided that they didn't want to hear it, so it's obscene. And that was my exact concern because if a parent is reading, let's say, a letter that their student got, which I know that we can't discuss that, but if a parent wants to talk about their student, they can. If the student got a letter, a threatening letter, like an I hate you letter or whatever, or there's a book their student came home and it had foul language in it. And that would just shut them down. And I don't think that's the thing we want to be in. However, if

077someone gets up here and says, you blanking people are blanking this and blanking that, that's different. So we can shut that down. So this, on the other hand... That's a derogatory direct attack on a school board member or a personnel. And that's addressed in 2, I believe. Part 2 of B. I believe that when they showed it... about that book that's in discussion. Well, there's several. Well, yes, and what happened is the person that was confronting the board just started with vile... He stripped his clothes off. Well, yes, that was one of them, but the other one was pretty explicit with name-calling. As each board member. Well, that's different. That's taken care of in subsection two. That's where the language comes from. But to me, they read. Engaging in disruptive conduct, including but not limited

078to criminal conduct, shouting, threatening, using other words or actions, making deferred comments. But I'm with you, Tony. I have been in trouble with them reading from a book. Oh, two under two B, B2. Because they have that right. But that's right. Well, can we put something in here that states that something about excluding the instance where You're narrowing it down. It's being read. You're narrowing it down. I would hope that we, as a board, would be able to define the difference between name-calling and somebody presenting a book, because that's what they did. And if someone was going to strip the clothes off, they better be a perfect 10, because we're not going to allow that either. Seriously. Come on. We're just not going to allow you to stop it? You're going to call recess and

079you're going to call your resource officer or your policeman 911 and say, come get them. And I don't think that's part of these definitions. That's not part of these definitions. And the definitions only pertain when there's students present. I think that's the part that, if you read B, it's, oh, no, but it go up to B where it says, well, the line underneath it. that a school business meeting at which students are present, that's when they're using those definitions. If there's students there, you're asking, should you choose, you're asking that they're careful about the language you're using in front of kids. Parents listen to the, they could be listening to this at home in their home. And if you're the child who was, I don't know, exposed to that book by a peer and you

080want to come to the, we're going to stifle the littles so that they can't speak and they can't read and say, hey, this was recommended to me or this was told I had to read it and I don't feel comfortable and this is what I was forced to read. I'm not about to stifle the voices of the littles. I'm sorry. We already have in our current policy obscene language. It's already there. So the only thing that's being added is the word indecent. And the definitions. But you already have using obscene language is already in your current policy. I want to make sure that doesn't prohibit a family or a public member from reading out loud a book if that becomes an issue because they're getting sued all over the state for this. I don't think

081that. I think the indecent does because a lot of those books explicitly mention organs, activities, so then You've seen them. That's what we need. Down flows. Aye. It's the conduct. That's what shuts everything down. I don't think you should stop. I don't think we need these. If we make it available to our students, I'll be able to read it now. And again, reading a book is different than using it in an offensive manner measured by contemporary community standards. I don't think that, I feel like these definitions are not meant for reading a book or bringing something to the attention. I think if they're being used in an offensive manner to the board. such as name-calling, but not to bring something to our attention. We would want to know that. That's exactly the way I interpret

082this. That it is a definition to help us determine what's indecent or obscene. I don't see this as a way for us to have to choose or have to shut down someone who's reading a book or a passage from a book. I would not support that at all, yeah. What if it's a verbal exchange? But you're talking... There is not. No, not us. I'm saying a public member comes. Because remember, we can't talk personnel or a student, but we can't stop a parent who wants to discuss a student or a situation on the playground. Tommy said this to Sally. then that would fall under here and they wouldn't be allowed to say it. And it's a conduct. That's their conduct that we're... It's not what they're saying. It's their conduct, right? So that's a disruptive

083conduct. And if they have any indecent or obscene language toward one another, that's a different situation than reading from a book. You're not... I think what happened in... that case was an individual who tried to go through the steps of the building principal, the superintendent, and got nowhere. He felt his only recourse was to go to the school board. And when the school board shut him down, that's when he sued for his first amendment rights, and he won. So, you know, if it's not a direct attack of a school board member or an argument between the superintendent, I agree wholeheartedly. And this refers to remarks. Like remarks I read as something someone is saying about something. Not reading directly from something. I believe that our building principals and our superintendent is going to call everybody

084in for a meeting before this really gets way out of hand. hand and we're going to go an executive session if need be and the situation is going to be handled and I think we're overthinking. Shanda is able to pull up just so you're aware some about The law and court documents, and there's a statement in here that says, the ruling allows districts to continue enforcing its ban on defamatory statements. Statements not about books. Defamatory is about something somewhat personal, which are not protected under the First Amendment. R-D-N-I. Making defamatory comments. So it's there. But that doesn't say accusations. I would consider it a damnable. I could come to the school board meeting and say, I'm not sure if you're aware. Mr. Smith is doing this in his classroom. My kids are coming home and

085telling me that. Back in the day, you shut it off right when they said, Mr. Smith. We don't discuss this in public forum. But now they've been a lot of the right. Well, right and it gets really tricky but there that's when you have the board chair that says I hear you Thank you for that and we are directing the superintendent to look into it And I mean that's you're recognizing we talked about this in policy that you're recognizing what said you're not just shutting down saying We're not going to listen you're saying we hear you Thank you for that comment and let us look into it and the superintendent or somebody will get back to you And that's one of the reasons why Tony and I know if you remember but I've been barking

086about this for many many years that I wanted something on the blurb when the meeting comes up that there's an expectation of what we can and cannot do. Like we're not engaging in back and forth with the public. We can't. We should put that notification on our sign-up sheet for public speaking. And it should be over there. If you sign up for public speaking, you should be an individual with our policy. It is. It's right there. No, but I mean... when they sign the thing. Because all we used to get was a blank piece of paper. It's right there. We're saying, no, behind you, at the table, they get that. Because I have been swapping about this for years. And believe it or not, we've been reading it at every one, if you remember that.

087And I wanted it right out at the beginning of the meetings and that something rolls up on that. Because we'll see it tonight and I didn't read it, but I have to read it. And another thing that we recognized in the last policy meeting, even though it's the practice, of most districts not to respond. It's not a policy. Yeah, it is. That it becomes the board's decision whether they want to have conversation with the public and how you want to do that. That's your decision, but it's actually not. And Shira and I had this conversation. We're like, wait, just like you said, we don't respond. And that's a practice, but it's not a policy unless you choose to put it in your policy. I think the thing that they're... One of the things that they're

088referring to consistently is inconsistency. So that's an issue. You need to be treating everybody the same and you need to be consistent on what you're allowing. If you're going to respond to one, you have to be ready to respond to everybody. Exactly. Or not at all. Back to consistency in regard to these definitions, this gives us something... to say, I think it gives us a backbone, it gives us backup, if you will, to say, yeah, this is indecent because it fits our definition of indecent. And that's why we can shut it down without any backlash, if we need to, right? There's another comment here. The court blocked enforcement of provisions banning gossip, like you said, an accusation, gossip of vulgar language, finding those terms too subjective and likely to restrict protected speech. Or let's give

089people the right just to do and say what they want. Correct. So the policy committee is asking, do you want those two definitions in or not? Because I don't think that... We had lots of good discussion about it, and we kind of were up in the air about what the full board. And we got covered by that. I think the definitions give us the opportunity to be consistent. And because we have those definitions in our policy, no one can question our decision so long as we stick to those definitions. And I'm not talking about restricting speech. Not just books, interactions. Like if they had an interaction with somebody at the school. Just when you read the phrase, measured by contemporary community standards. Where do you see that? Literally the last sentence of indecent. As measured

090by contemporary community standards. Those seem pretty loose these days. I'm not a fan of these. Sorry for making the educators giggle, but... What do you wish? Yes or no? Yay or nay? I'm just one. You do not want them in there, correct? You want them in there? I do. So somebody needs to make a motion. Isn't it already on the thing so far? Do we have a motion on the board yet? We need to. There are other red sections. There's one other red section. Let's continue. Continue. And so the next section is down below section E. There's two choices if you look at discussion of personnel matters. And again, Tony brought that up. There's the first that is hours with a little bit of addition. You can see where the line's under. Or there's the

091red section. And again, the committee didn't know which one. Right, we don't have to vote on it, but give information back to the policy. It's going back to policy. In this case, I actually prefer what we have in our policy because I feel like it can be, in our small district, it can be really easy to identify someone just by... The subject they teach. Oh, the grade they teach. Yeah. So I feel like ours is actually better in this regard. Because it allows us to ensure that confidentiality piece. If someone just starts to talk about the person without naming them in a way that everyone would know who they are. I kind of don't like the positive part being in there, but... The what part? Like we can't, like if someone comes in and said,

092you know, I just want to say as a parent, I'm really thankful for Miss Braga and how she supported my student. Like I don't like that we, if it's a positive thing, I guess I don't... Because don't we want to lift up our teachers? Because that doesn't rise to a personnel issue. Personnel issues are generally gripes, complaints, concerns, behaviors that are unbecoming, could be violation of policy or contract. Okay, wait a second. Discussion of personnel matters is not permitted during the public comment period due to the privacy, confidentiality, blah, blah, blah. Right here. Something from the law. She's pulling up. So it says the judge has also halted a rule prohibiting complaints about school employees or students, saying it was unclear and could be applied inconsistently. So what they're saying is someone can get up

093and make discussions about these. I don't like Mr. Bagley. Right. I mean, they can say whatever they want. You don't need to engage. Correct. But they have the right to speak their truth. to these things. This says here it's discussion, right? So... Was that state supreme or was that federal? This is coming from the federal. That's what I thought. Yeah. So this says discussion of personnel matters is not permitted during public comment. So if somebody chooses to say something, we choose not to engage, we are not in discussion. We should not have a discussion, but they are allowed to make a comment. Correct, about it. Has MSMA put out... more current one since that ruling. This was the end of April. So when did this sample thing come out from MSNA? It's dated on there.

094I think it's 2000. It's the newest version 2025 and it doesn't mean they might not come back again and I think my mind was there sometimes there are a couple six months I think we need to see how they tweak this because they're probably gonna be some backpedaling But I think that we met I would recommend that we make the changes that there's a lot of changes in this policy that we should be making that we've agreed to even if we choose not to put do that section or Figure out which way you want to go and then check it again when there's something comes up through MSMA But I don't think we hold because our current one isn't up to date compared to our date is, well, it's only a little bit. So are

095you asking, are you, just to make sure I hear this in my brain, the underlying stuff is stuff that we changed, that we liked, but not act on the way. Right, unless the board is suggesting that we go back and add either one or both sections of red for now. That's what you're asking for direction. I'm comfortable, Chris, since you and I worked hard on this with Mr. T, is that we accept BEDH with the underlined board policy recommendations and that we table anything in red until we get something more current from MSMA based on the recent federal rules. Is that a form of a motion? You can't. It's not on the agenda. We didn't have a motion. It's just discussion. The board is supposed to be directing the policy, what to do in policy.

096Okay. So you're just asking for direction. We're just asking for direction. I agree with what you just said, Ruth, but I'd like to know what other members think. Do you like that? No, I'm good with having you hold the information in red, but I like everything else. Thank you. Tony? I think MSMA needs to get their stuff together and follow these rulings and stop giving out bad advice. True. But in the meantime, the ones that weren't in black were one... Just, yep, hold the red, go with the underlined. We're good with that. Okay, that's what we'll do. Good. Thank you. Recommendation to hire a half-time art teacher and a half-time Title I teacher. The recommendation is Beth Cotter, and I'm going to make that in the form of a motion. Second. Shall I? So Beth

097Carter is an experienced art educator. She's looking interested in the position that we're offering here that will allow her to collaborate with classroom teachers and incorporate art into other subjects such as science and social studies themes. In teaching art, she's developed lessons that stretch students' creative abilities and introduce them to many materials and mediums while using our DOE standards. Beth comes to us from RSU 71. She's currently serving as a full-time Title I teacher. She has created customized interventions for individuals and small groups of students with targeted areas of improvement. As an elementary teacher, she's become adept at conflict resolution. Staff leadership is something that we noted strongly in her interview as well as communication skills. She has a BA in Art Education and a Masters in Literacy. She has five years experience as an

098elementary art teacher, seven as a classroom teacher, and two as a Title I teacher. And we're happy to have her join our team. That's in the form of a motion. And this is the elementary school, correct? Yes. All in favor? Welcome aboard. Just informational, the EdTech 3, Malcolm Smith, transfer from food service to special education. No action required. Wait a minute. I know no action. required, but I'm going to vote yes. Thank you very much. You'll appreciate that. I'll second that. Thank you. Drive safely home. Look for deer. He'll be happy. Teacher supervision and evaluation plan. It's the teacher supervision and evaluation plan using the Kim Marshall plan, and that's in a form of a motion. Any comments, questions? I looked through that and I noticed at the end there was a section for goals.

099What I didn't see, and maybe I missed it because it was extensive, what I didn't see is like an action plan. Is that something that's in there? So an action plan wouldn't be part of the teacher handbook for supervision evaluation. That would be something for administration. We do have an action plan template, though principals can create their own form of action plan, but we have one, and it's been used this year. Okay. But it's generally not part of it. I think that's fair to say. Teachers would know. Generally, we start with a letter of concern, unless it's so egregious that we would put them immediately on an action plan. And again, directors and principals and I would work together to, depending on what the issue or concern is. And just for clarification, because I think

100I might have brought this up before, but there is a... There's like some kind of tier right like this is you know usually start with the verbal or a letter And then it works to coaching. I mean there's like some unless obviously some behaviors are right supervision obviously, but It happens all year long we're right Principles directors are always supervising staff, but yes, if there's a if there's a A concern, a wonder, it generally starts with a conversation. If there's a parent complaint, it could be a different level or a different kind of conversation. But yes, there's definitely a buildup. But again, sometimes the act or whatever the issue is could be so big that you might skip some of these things and go right to a letter of concern that goes in a file

101that says, this is not okay. Is there something somewhere that teachers have access to that? where they know that, right? Is there somewhere in there? Is it in the teacher's contract about corrective action? It is. Okay, so we're covered in the fact that it's not a surprise. It shouldn't be, but I'm just saying. It says in the contract that they'll be supervised and evaluated. Any other questions, comments? All in favor? Thank you. Thank you. RSU 20 Emergency Response Plan. So this doesn't require any action. This is, I know that in my time here with all of you that you shared that it hadn't been shared with you. Nowadays, things are really different. It used to be supposedly a secret. We're such a small community. We want, you know, people are going to know. And this

102doesn't specifically say that we're doing this, this, this, and this. It just gives you, it's a grand overview of what we're doing. We already know that should we need to evacuate, say it's for smoke or whatever it is, and we need to go. We have a place identified in the community. We have a plan. We have busing transportation that we've worked on. We were hopeful that we would practice it this spring. but we didn't, just so that you know. But that'll be something on our agenda for the first thing in the fall, that we'll start with teachers and get teachers to that space, and then we'll incorporate students. And once you practice once with kids, they're going to say, Mom and Dad, this is where we're at, this is where we're going. We already know,

103though, that, again, Dale Rowley has been wonderful to work with in helping us to navigate the potential. Issues that we're gonna have marks been part of that conversation SRO Northrup we go to monthly meetings or regular meetings maybe something monthly every six weeks and We're working with all the districts that are in Waldo County. So there's a lot of collaboration And I think that we have at least a plan more than more than we had before so that's good It'll be tweaked as we go forward And the staff also have a guide that helps them with some, we have some posters that we've created, some different things that will help kids and teachers. Alice training, very similar, and again, 71 has done a lot of this very similar work. After Lisa, they've done this kind

104of work. Thank you. 11-8, wellness committee report to the board. So again, you can click that link, the wellness committee, Chris has served on that committee with us this. The Wellness Committee has met, not quite monthly, but I think that we hit six times whatever's in the report. Surveys went out, we were able to identify student goal this year that will carry into next year. I sent out a staff survey in the last week. I have already had 29 staff that have responded about things that they would like for a goal. This is all part of policy that we're supposed to have an ongoing wellness committee that meets regularly, we do. We have outside partnerships that are joining, we have staff, we're trying to increase staff, but we're getting there. and we'll just continue to

105move forward. The one thing that we didn't get to this year was looking at policy, and that'll be something that the Wellness Committee next year will be the first thing that we focus on after the staff goal is policy and them bringing a recommendation to the Policy Committee that you'll see sometime next fall. Thank you. Okay, 11-9. This is in a form of a motion to allow the superintendent to hire during the summer months. Second. Any questions, comments? All in favor? Wasn't it 11-9? It's 1113. Oh, is it 1113? We renumbered everything. Oh, we renumbered. Sorry. Yeah, I don't think we got the updated agenda with 119 through 13. Yep, sorry. No, that would be sorry me. This is what happens when you don't have an administrative assistant. Sometimes they just keep adding to the

106agenda even after I share it with you. Sorry. I had it as 119. No, it just says, Laura, this is a PDF and stop typing. I'm like... It's a Google Doc. Why would I stop typing? I have more. Okay, whatever number you want to make it 11, 13. I'm really done. All in favor. Okay. Thank you. I will email you and let you know so that you're in the loop. Thank you. What did we do without Tony? I mean, he's picking up a lot here. I think I said three times 11, 9. You did. And I did correct you and say it's 13, but I didn't know that you said 9 because you didn't have 10, 11, and 12 there. I had it. I didn't. Okay. So right now for a time and date for

107next meetings, we have policy scheduled for June 23rd. We had agreed on that unless policy says no thank you, we're done for the season. And then there's the question, do you want a summer schedule? So I have potential dates. Do you want to take July off? Do you want to take July and part of August off? Or do we want to meet in the summer? Well, I think. Denise made a point earlier that our July meeting is usually where we select our chair and committees. For the simple reason I only said that because there's going to be several that have nobody on it, but I'm sure Tony's going to step into that. So couldn't we do that? On the 23rd with July, I mean with the June 23rd, could we do it the same day?

108That's policy. That's policy. I know, but after. Because we can use the second board. We have a second board day, and then we could take July off. Right? Isn't that a Tuesday? It's Tuesday. And that falls into the ones that the public is already aware of, because we can choose to do a second one, and then we can maybe get July off. Give them room to get their rooms cleaned. And obviously, if something comes up, like if there's something big come up, we can always bring it back. So last year, I felt like you were very, very careful of helping me get on board. And I appreciated that we met a number of times over the summer. I'm suggesting you might not need to. And you can select. who you want for board chair and

109committees, even if you wait until August, is what I'm saying. It's your first meeting of the year, whatever it is. So if you choose not to meet in July, you just do it in August. There's nothing that says it has to be July. It's just that's the beginning of the fiscal year. Yeah, the only reason I worry about August. Because I know I'm going to be gone one of those weeks. So August is August. Our first meeting, if you did the second Tuesday, is August 11th. Which is why I don't want to miss that meeting, but I believe that I am out of state on that week. Yeah, I am slated to be out of state that week. On what week? August, that second week. And the 25th is open house, correct? Correct. In August,

110we'll have a cookout. But I can miss a meeting. Tony can assign you to come. I have seniority now. I have seniority now. I stay where I am and take on. I'm happy with the boards that I'm on. She knows better. What is the wish of the board? I'm good with one meeting in July. I'm not with three, but I am with one. But that's up to everybody else. I don't mind waiting until August if you so choose. It's up to you. I said based on need. That's what I said For us to come in here and elect officers and sign committees and then leave and that's what That's what I said that to Laura right up front I said why don't we just post it and if you don't we don't need it then

111we'll wait until August. That was my original. I agree No, we're going to post it as July With a need if we don't need it. We'll two weeks out or a week out. We'll cancel it pending need Yeah as a need that way if it's not constantly that's us so Would you be doing finance on the 14th of July? If we have if we have a meeting if we have a meeting yeah I will send out all of the finance reports anyway regardless of whether we have a meeting or not. Yep, and just in case and we'll know Well before that whether we can cancel or not Okay motion to adjourn All in favor Do you meet we are

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