001[Music] uh roger's suggestion about uh the 2.4 percent and then say maybe this for this current period we go uh we split the difference and we say 52.5 so we're a quarter of the way to that 60 ultimate um intention at least of this commission that we would then pass on to future commissions and they can decide whether or not our uh analysis or recommendations you know hold water in the long term but for me it would help to say that there is an end game and that we are our sense as a committee is to move to a 60 compensation match um with the cost of living that we've used in the past as roger suggested sorry to be verbose commissioner harwood um yeah thanks i i agree i think that i think the
002uh framework that we'd set that formula is a really good place to start because it does take into some fluctuations of cpis going up and down same with wages and it will hopefully smooth out those abnormalities that that will eventually come up and have come up i'm in support of bumping up the council salary to 55 but i i like what commissioner weiner said as far as having maybe the idea of it of a final number if you will of where we would as a commission kind of like to see the number get to knowing that other commissions obviously don't have to follow that but i think putting in the framework prior uh keeping it now and then having this this end goal really helps the next commission as well as achieving our own goals
003and making it uh stepping stones to get there i would maybe add that we might suggest on the way to get to that 60 percent wherever we end up starting whether it be the 50 of the mayor's salary or the 52 whatever that is where we where we end up today that maybe we say um you know the commission meets every it's two years i believe um so you know with the idea of getting to that 60 percent within so many years uh to kind of maybe add another little framework because uh you could maybe stretch it out for a very long time if it's not in there and what what is that what is that idea that our commission has so that's all i have thank you um chris can we if someone has
004suggested language can we add that suggested language to what we have right now is that yeah uh do you uh if you want to send it to me email it to me i can circulate it to the group does anyone have some suggested language that they would like to to share with chris or yeah so he can send it to everyone and if if it's necessary you could um have somebody work on that for a subsequent meeting [Music] or you could give me some direction to write something up for a subsequent meeting or if you want to take a break and do it now did you have something uh yes um elizabeth and i had actually communicated about working on some suggested language and uh where i would say we're we came up with something
005that definitely needs some uh massaging but uh elizabeth are you comfortable forwarding that to chris certainly um yeah it's i think if we're going to go down the road a little bit of and i'll say i like the idea of going down the road of adding um maybe some teeth to our intent so it's certainly that is not in this language so i'll forward this to chris and then he can share it with everyone i'll just note while i'm waiting to get that uh we are back on ctn so okay i just sent it chris i will wait for it to wind its way through the tubes of the internet so i'm gonna just forward the email to everybody and then i'll um screen so i have emailed it now let me share [Music] so
006this in the track changes here if you can see it would be the new language okay sorry that bigger this is uh eddie harwood chris in that calculation that you just recently did the most recent calculation you did to get that 2.4 percent i think that was using the cpi uh year-over-year of 6.2 percent i think that might need to be changed from the um or updated into that last resolution as well um so this is the yeah this was the average of the four formulas that's the two fiscal last fiscal years plus the non-union that's 2.4 so that's is that yes right you were you were using a um i'm sorry you were using the july 2020 to july 2021 is that what you used for that yeah for the one currently shown yes
007okay all right and in the average of the four in the spreadsheet yes that's gotcha thank you as far as the language i think it's a good start if you uh if uh mr commissioners wish to uh finish that up and bring it back to another meeting for approval i certainly support that um i think it'd be good if we could settle on the percentage um today uh for the percentage of the commission versus the mayor's salary we agree to that come back next meeting with a completed resolution then we could finish everything up so i i am um elated actually at the suggestion of a couple of commissioners that we shoot ultimately for a 60 goal even if it's not within our grasp in the next two years i guess um i guess i
008need to know what people are thinking in terms of this year this coming year in the next 22-23 um because it sounds like we're proposing perhaps 52.5 percent for next year for the year after and then we have as the goal the hope that the next board will take up where we left off although they're certainly free to ignore it and then push it again by 2.5 up to 60. is that what we're envisioning in terms of language i mean i'll i'll chime in i that sounds reasonable to me it's a slow increase it doesn't it doesn't hit with the i i like the idea of the five percent right away but i think that a gradual increase maybe is a little better so i would i would be in favor of that elizabeth yes
009i i i also would agree with that approach and i think that proviso would be that um as i think we did the last time the the um the average of the uh cpi and the wages would remain at 2.4 for both of the years the upcoming years uh but that in year one it would be a 52.5 and then year two would be a 55 percent of the mayor's salary for council members that would be my only proviso to what you suggested elizabeth yes i would go along with that i agree that the 2.4 uh in each of the next two years for cpi two and a half percent up to fifty two and a half percent uh for the upcoming fiscal year and then 55 percent for the second fiscal year i'm i'd
010be completely supportive of that as would i wish your present i'm actually learning to raise my hand here so we are we saying though that in addition to those approaches um that we would want to include language that says while we recognize it is not binding on the future commission that our preference would be to set the goal ultimately for sixty percent for no less than sixty percent of the mayor's salary for fiscal year whatever the second year of that um term would be yes okay if we put language in in the whereases i'm fine with that yeah okay recognizing it's not binding but clearly showing what our our expectations are okay and you know i have a question actually do we as far as intent goes do we intend for it to be no
011less than 60 or are we kind of saying we'd like to get to 60 i mean so we're kind of more of a cap and less less open-ended my only concern would be that we not while setting a goal that we also not appear to limit it i i think reasonably 60 is a good goal if somebody four years from now were to say i think it should be 65 when i rise out of my grave and say no no not no yeah yeah it's a suggestion um but clearly non-binding i like that so i don't know if we necessarily you know chris do you would you suggest that we vote on anything right now it looks like we kind of have a consensus um i can take that direction and um put the 52.5
012for fy23 and the 55 for fy24 into a final draft resolution and then if uh commissioner pretzel and or you want to work on a final draft whereas language and send it to me i can bring a completed final draft resolution to a final meeting and if that meets with everyone's expectations to have the vote then that's probably the best way to do it so no no vote needs to be taken now we can just take that as the consensus here and then postpone the vote to postpone um and then we'll take it up for a final vote at the next meeting or pressle i may have left the room to get a kleenex at a crucial point so i assume that we will all have time in december to wrap this up with one
013final meeting but were you saying that uh i or elizabeth or both of us would continue to be the scribes here yeah i will leave that up to you all to decide i would expect you might want to continue that but some somebody should i would say somebody should get me some final draft whereas language so that i can present a complete draft final resolution at the next meeting so that hopefully nothing would need to be changed but if it did it would just be like the police that would be acceptable to me and i assume to you elizabeth uh let's say you a everybody okay with that yes okay yeah sounds good so a motion to postpone to the next meeting would be in order then so moved a second it's like jeopardy who's
014gonna get the button first all in favor of uh postponing to the next meeting all opposed not opposed the motion passes i will send out a doodle poll for that uh are we thinking next week to start with um i will say it would be very helpful if it was this week if that's possible for me because i'll be out for two weeks after that it did not look like the doodle poll previous doodle poll had availability for everyone um i can resend it and see what happens and uh i'll do it for this week and then next and again if if it's remote you can also call in if you don't have a internet connection and do it that way but i will i will i will try to find time this week does
015anybody have any day that absolutely doesn't work i can also i'll expand after hours too so that in case you all might really want to meet at 8pm i cannot do wednesday and tuesday thursday and friday i would have to be done by 11. no wednesday of this week either wednesday of this week no oh i'm done by 11 in the morning uh on tuesday thursday friday i think tuesday's probably a little too quick but thursday and friday i could as long as we're done by 11. [Music] um does early morning work for folks like eight seven oh i'll i'll put i'll put seven and eight in there and we'll see what we get okay so um any other questions for me we have communications yeah the next that's the next uh thing on our
016agenda is communications there is nothing anybody has any no okay okay so now we have a public comment which was postponed or rather moved from the previous spot on the agenda do we have anyone from the public i do not see anyone in the waiting room let's give another minute for folks who may be watching to catch up you are watching and would like to make a public comment you can call in uh the number should appear on your screen and enter the meeting id if for some reason the number is not up there you can call in at 877-853-5247 that's eight seven seven eight five three five two four seven [Music] and then enter the meeting id which is nine one eight one two zero six four zero four two that's nine one eight
017one two zero six four zero four two and i see that the number is on the screen so we will wait for just a moment to give folks time to call in okay i do not see anyone calling in so i think we can feel free to move to a motion to adjourn can i get a motion to adjourn so moved and a second support all in favor of adjourning this meeting hi hi hi opposed non-opposed the meeting is adjourned at 1 47 p.m [Music] thank you i will have the doodle poll out shortly okay thank you chris thank you see everyone soon thanks everybody good week everyone okay bye-bye