001e e e those of you just joining us I'd like to welcome you to the school board business meeting at the Joe n idlet Jr Tec today is Monday August 26 20124 and I'd like to call this meeting to order the time is 6: p.m. I ask it out of respect to everyone please at this time check all your electronic devices and make sure they're on silent also if you have any materials you wish to share with any board member please give those to our Administrative Assistant Miss mores she's sitting over there at this time I'd like to um introduce and have them um come forward the Sebastian River High School Navy Junior Roc under the direction of Commander retired Peter Binet United States Navy and master sergeant retired Michael hussy United States Marine Corps
002for the Pledge of Allegiance please stand [Music] United States of America and to the repic it stands one nation under God indivisible andice for all colors and salute ready to post colors March [Applause] you know school's back in session when you get that it's wonderful all right at this time board members are there any items that you wish to move from consent to action yeah I'd like to add one item to the action items to action or to discussion to action we're going to add an action item okay okay action is to uh present for amendment to policy 2130 regarding the achievement Gap oversight um to present it for a 30-day public comment and then to be placed on the agenda for the October business meeting okay so you're looking at adment what you say
003an amendment amendment to policy 213 Amendment okay for public comment okay can I get a second for that I'll second okay it doesn't need a second by the way but I'll second anyway it does on here okay so that's a new item for Action anything else Dr Jones yes action item C which reads approval to set public hearing date for the adoption of the revisions to Schoolboard policies 165.1 16465 and 169 rewrites were sent to us with quite a few changes in green lines haven't had a chance to discuss as a board not one policy but four several changes in wording just a motion to postpone until September 9th Workshop where we can discuss all of the changes as the board as they were sent to us okay Dr Jones for postponement of item 9C
004is there a second on that I'll second for discussion Madam chair if we could move 9A which is the CWA contract and 9B the irce contract immediately following the superintendent's report uh we greatly appreciate it as we um annually or traditionally do okay so I will make um that motion for you on behalf of the board is there second second okay anything else board members Dr Pasa you feeling left out you good okay all right so um we have a new action item policy 2130 for an amendment by Mr McDonald we have a postponement Dr Jones of 9C we have um 9A and 9B for CWA and irca to be moved up which means that we would have to vote on those items first all right um so can I get a motion to accept
005the adoption of the orders of the day as amended so moved okay second Mr McDonald all those in favor say I I I I okay passes 5 thank you you all are challenging me right off the bat okay superintendent's report Dr Moore thank you madam chair there is this goes always back to June where is the one from the summer one minute please so not to belabor the the time that we're all here so Madam chair if we can maybe just do 9A and 9B um then we'll come back to the presentation absolutely all right so action agenda item 9A was moved to the beginning of the um program so action item 9A is the approval of the 2025 2027 collective bargaining agreement between the school board board and the communication workers of America they
006reached an agreement on a 2-year contract any discussion by board members chair I like to present the item I okay sorry go ahead um thank you madam chair this item as you know when we had a a strategy session regarding the initiation of of going through the process for contracts we were able to meet with both our CWA Representatives as well as irca we were able to come to terms for what I believe were very very impactful contracts that we are initiating today uh for CWA which is the first contract in overall compensation across the board of additional 3% we're very proud for that this contract also improves uh the language around evaluations it improves uh language around discipline procedures it includes bereavement leave for our employees which we're very proud of uh it provides
007additional language around witness and or jury duty um leave clarifies language with holidays uh clarifies language around paid breaks and when they would be the most appropriate time to take them um so a as well as providing additional compensation and hourly rate for our summertime bus drivers um want to acknowledge the entire team the negotiation team uh for CWA which is Miss christop Foley and Mr Green and Dr suit and Dr long um for hours of commitment I think in total there were over Beth take it away how many recommendations did we how many language changes did we have 57 57 uh language changes uh which really clarified roles expectations uh and how we engage so very very thankful for that um so that is the irca contract see you I mean c sir okay
008um could I get a motion to accept the contract um for the collect a bargaining agreement between the school board and the communication workers of America so move okay good and we do have a public speaker um for this item okay and he knows who he is I was GNA say I don't have that on here action item okay good evening Dr Moore distinguished board members ladies and gentlemen my name is Joseph Rino and I am the President of CWA local 3180 first off I'd like to thank Dr Moore for his recommendation of acceptance for this contract to the board I would also like to thank the district bargaining team Dr suit Miss chrisal FY Miss Barker Mr Green and Mr Smeltzer who spent countless hours working tirelessly in order to reach a mutually beneficial
009agreement for the CWA members and the district as well finally I'd like to thank the teach CWA membership who supported their executive board throughout this process we spent many late nights after work and on weekends trying to incorporate the many suggestions of our members into this new contract I'd like to thank Lori Taylor our vice president Barry de our Treasurer Claudia vosa our secretary and David Betts our area rep I just want to say thank you for all your commitment hard work and all the free time you all sacrificed away from your family for the good of the members ship without all of you none of this would be possible thank you very much have a good evening thank you we have a second speaker Mr Marsh good evening board Michael C Marsh just want
010to thank all those hard indiv hardworking individuals that were part of this um work is good it continues to be good it's going to get greater in December thank you good night okay um so I'd like to call for the vote those in favor of uh accepting the approval of the collective bargaining agreement between the school board and the communication workers of America say I I I anyone opposed congratulations that passes 5 yeah can we do Madam chair if you can want to do them both at the same time or now let's do them one at a time okay um so the chair myself will go down and we'll sign the contract as as Joe signs the contract as well and then we'll take a pretty picture today's 826 about thousand now we're you stay
011we're we're go by other side I can't I have there you go right christop fo you did not sign this one sign together how cute switch Joe you you I sign get over [Applause] yes yeah did you see the white car pass you yes I was the black I was the black TR that stop when the white car pass so I saw that I saw that too I saw the you waved at me I did w i i recogniz app was there was there a median or no Medi okay then he didn't have to stop okay to put okay moving on to action item 9B um this is the amended approval of the 2024 2025 collective bargaining agreement between the school board and Indian River County Education Association irca at this time I call for
012the superintendent to um discuss this item thank you madam chair this is the contract with irca this is a contract that we'll be initiating for the upcoming school year and it allows a compensation package which flexes compensation uh depending on the years of experience anywhere between one and a half to about 7% of our employees this board should be extremely proud of offsetting the compression that has been created in the State of Florida uh in terms of overall compensation as we reported this morning uh the teachers in Indian River County have gone from 28th to 7th in average teacher play pay significant Improvement which is a significant investment you all have made in educators with the signing of this contract uh we expect to be uh in the top four or five that information is
013always lagged as it comes from the state but we're excited about that highlights of this contract it clarify language around participation in IEP meetings uh clarifies the role and responsibilities of an impact review and that they are not in fact evaluative in nature uh clarifies work day and work year expectations regarding time and responsibilities clarifies administrative meetings after school and clearly defines uh the frequencies in which they should be taking place the bereavement leave program once again in place for our teachers as well um just an absolute outstanding contract I want to acknowledge the team again and you're going to hear some repeat names Dr Su Dr Long uh Miss basura Mr Bruce uh green uh Tracy Barker who was the uh recording secretary for both both teams was in all negotiations uh for her
014work for making sure uh we were recording everything appropriately um so that is this contract Madam chair okay so the school district and representatives from the irca bargaining teams reached an agreement on a one-year contract I'd like to call for a motion for approval of the 2024 2025 collective bargaining agreement between the school board and Indie River County Education Association so Move Motion okay second all right Mr Rosario with the motion and Dr Jones for the second all those in favor say I I I anyone opposed we do have a public speaker oh I'm so sorry that so sorry thank you but my apologies all right forget that vote Michael Marsh okay you were first on the list I'm just saying okay he's in charge here Jennifer Freeland go ahead you can keep that vote
015though that was okay um so Jennifer Freeland the president of Indian River County Education Association um good evening to the board Dr Mo and cabinet I'm excited to speak here tonight first I would like to congrat congratulate Dr Jones on winning her next term um I'm also very excited to be here to sign the collective the new collective bargaining agreement for 20242 731 total votes were placed 719 were yes votes I can safely say that this is an overwhelming amount of support for this contract and some of the the highest numbers we've ever had in Indian River County this kind of turnout and this kind of support does not just happen it takes innumerable hours of conversation sometimes easy sometimes heated but always focused on what is good for our teachers and how it affects
016our students remembering that teachers working conditions are our students learning conditions although there is so much work to be done yet and I am sure that Dr Moore and I will not always agree sorry um we have been is correct is correct we have been lucky to have a superintendent that is willing to step out of that proverbial box and embrace a new way of thinking I can conf confidently say that we irca and sdrc with a partnership we have cultivated over the last several years will continue to work together to bust any barriers that come between teachers and their students learning we will continue to have those hard conversations relying on the relationships that have come out of this partnership we have built here in Indian River County though this partnership was tenuous at
017best in the beginning it has become so much more than a negotiating model partnership is now into ingrained in all the work we do and has become the very have be has become part of the very culture in this district and I would like to thank the entirety of the negotiating team this way I don't rename everybody but thank you and I'd like to thank all teachers for their support and time thank you okay thank you Michael Marsh or a second speak Michael marow was powerful and that's it good night okay can we make sure the comments are on topic M Rosario do you want to keep your motion what motion you made the motion the previous before the speakers would you like to keep the motion as your motion yes okay yes Dr Jones
018do you want to keep the the second yes okay all those in favor say I I anyone opposed it passes 5- Z thank you [Applause] little negotiator s stand here [Applause] and now I believe we have the appropriate presentation loaded this is the superintendent report uh for this month and I'm going to highlight some academic outcomes because it's the first time that we've actually been convened in which school grades have been released this is a chart that I've used since I've been here and it looks at our surrounding counties Charlotte Martin Indian River county is in the middle and then Bard our neighbor to the North and then Mii Dade my previous District this is a slide that I shared in order to communicate to the community that there was a need for change that
019we could not be complacent that if other districts uh who were similar in size in other districts uh that were significantly larger and served a very complex Community could have the majority of A and B schools then the same should be true in Indian River County and as you can see from this slide and acclimate yourself to the slide because we're going to compare the impact over the last four years where the only 47% of Indian River County Schools were a or a B the majority were C schools and my challenge to the community then is that we should be very uncomfortable with the progress and performance of our schools because we need to communicate the desire to create a strategic plan and then transform the system as we dig a little bit deeper you
020could look at Charlotte and this is a little bit uh different than what we looked at this morning board members uh the first graph looks at Charlotte in 1819 and then Compares them to the outcome this last year so you can see Charlotte reduction in A's um significant increasement in C's that's not the way in which a school system should be moving this is Bard County a reduction in A's in significant increase in C schools and reduction in B schools so A's are falling to B's and B's are falling to C's uh not what you would like to see Martin County uh significant change 50% of their schools or more actually was a little bit more was were A's in 1819 um now the majority of their schools are B's significant Improvement or increase in
021C's and they even have a dchool not what you would want to see uh this is my previous district and and they continue to grow a schools and B schools and reduce C schools and then this is Indiana River County where you see the most significant change 95% of your schools are an A or a B in comparison to only 47% in 1819 uh that 15% is one remaining C school so the rate of improvement than you when we came in we were talking um with the board about the creation of the Strategic plan we were talking about having transformational impact this is the foundation for that transformational impact and this is what the chart looks like revised and I've already committed to the board when you see this chart again at the end of
022next year you're going to see significant increases in that green bar for Indian River County uh and the elimination of blue and orange so what I said four years ago that each and every single School in this District uh should be an a uh isn't a aspirational goal it isn't something that is this pipe dream that maybe could happen it's a reality we are focused we're doing the work and we expect that to be the outcome for this school year this is a chart that I created and it looks similar to a a hurricane track and what we're looking at is the rate of growth in terms of State rankings from year to year so obviously in 1920 there is no there were no grades because of the pandemic so if we're all starting at
023zero and we improved two uh rank State rankings the chart would take you up to but the following year if you went down two it would take you down two so you see a lot of VAR ation between improving of 10 or decreasing of 10 now when you're in the top 10 you're going to see very little movement um because you're already in the top 10 what this information doesn't include is the school district of Indian River County so you look at all of these districts going up and going down um you have one District Indian River County who for the last three years has had the highest rate of growth in the entire State of [Applause] Florida so this is a representation of continuous Improvement uh going from 38th in 1819 to tied for
024eighth but actually ninth uh in state rankings uh is the highest rate of growth um of all school districts in the State of Florida so we're very very proud of that now how do we do that uh we do that in Partnership we do that uh specifically by making sure we are the school system who thinks faster and makes decisions quicker than any other District we engage at engage that was a play on words there uh this is our summer conference with all of our leadership teams so in this picture are the leadership teams of all of our schools where we are problem solving and creating the school Improvement plans and the initiatives to ensure that we are all a school schs uh we did the same thing what we call a vision setting here
025at the district offices where we looked at each particular office ensuring they understand how they support schools and the impact that they're going to have to enhance the level of service they're providing had the opportunity with our board to celebrate our retirees at Quail Valley that was an absolutely outstanding evening uh and we had a high level of participation even though it was July 31st uh back to school means a a number of interviews making sure our community is informed so this is one I did with CBS um it was a very long interview Thrive is the Kickstart to our school year that Auditorium was filled the energy was high where we had the opportunity to speak with all of our teachers all of our administrators and then ultimately set the tone and expectation for
026the entire school year that was a impactful powerful day for us um cannot thank Our Community Partners for coming out and setting up tables and ensuring uh that they were there to communicate um their opportunities for their programming in their particular schools and then middle and high school orientations our principles reported 80 to 85% of their families were in attendance and what that does is accelerate the teaching and learning on day one uh up in the left corner you see the auditorium at Sebastian River your high school that's before school even starts uh and that's clearly connecting and engaging with parents on what the expectation is uh what you need to have in place for the first day of school elementary orientations I was able to hit about five or six of them um absolutely
027outstanding Mr RAR you can see a book vending machine in the top left corner you're going to add to that right you're G to add we we we are on it um and Jackie Robinson one of our biggest Partners um that is me trying to motivate some students literally the Friday before they go back to school that complex if you haven't been inside is state-ofthe-art uh and it is a true attraction for our community uh can't thank uh Pathway Church for inviting us really us to set up a table and then share information uh with anyone who was there regarding the opening of schools that literally was the day before school started um absolutely outstanding first day of school starts at extremely early uh this is the opening of school at the bus depot and
028you could see us there just sending out some encouragement and love to our bus drivers and yes cameras were there as well uh first day of school over the course of the first three days uh the cabinet and myself we divided into two different teams to minimize the impact to principles and disrupting them but we were able to visit visit every single school and the con the need for that visit was to ask what they need in real time to make sure that we can absolutely provide it uh as well as making sure instruction is taking place uh and these are just some of those visits uh and then last week as well as the first week of school we just really wanted to celebrate our our bus drivers and say thank you to our
029community so we made some signs and as our bus drivers pulled out if you haven't seen uh the operation of about 3540 buses pulling out from Vero Beach or Sebastian River Senior High School it is absolutely amazing at Viro Beach they have to pull out from the main campus and drive to the flick and the flick has to drive to the main campus so it is a major operation um and we did the same thing at Sebastian where the the officers pull out in the road they stop traffic because we know if we can't get those buses out from the high school they won't be on time for the middle school and they won't be on time for the elementary school um but we're very very proud of what we're seeing in terms of our
030on time uh pick up and drop off so we're very very appreciative for their early mornings and late evenings and then we were able to do an interview uh as we kicked off high school football August 16th um that's not the playoff crowd that's the opening game crowd um and during that interview I had the opportunity to share a high school at at Viro Beach is like it is a college environment it is something you absolutely have to see and that is us last week um doing the same sign rally at Sebastian River Senior High School and then here we are today so that is the the update Madam chair thank you sir so at this time we'll have our citizen input and I need to read the guidelines for citizen input to start so
031these are the guidelines for citizen input according to the school board policy 0 69.1 each statement made by a member of the public shall be limited to 3 minutes duration I'll be recognizing in the order in which the requests were received the time shall start when the speakers at the podium and the public information officer will be the official timekeeper as you see the time clock is visible to your left on the dis you will hear a beep at the end of your three minutes each person may speak for up to 3 minutes at the beginning of business meeting during citizen input as indicated on the order of the business of the day and for up to three minutes to each action item agenda item during the action agenda as indicated on the order of
032business if a consent item is moved to an action item when you come up to the podium you may speak at that time or defer to speak um during the presentation of that action item people may only speak once about any given item the time period may be extended by the priding officer and only the individual speaking a speaker's form is submitting the speaker form is allowed to address the board time may not be yielded to other speakers during the meeting please refrain from clapping or outbursts of any sort so we can proceed with dignity and decorum and not infringing on any individual's First Amendment rights I need to remind everyone to direct all comments to the chair and not to individual board members or to the superintendent board members may or may not address
033any citizen input statements at the end of all the citizen input comments as board members listen to citizen without interruption citizens are asked to give board members the same respect please as per flid Florida statute 10001 372 subsection 3 the presiding officer of any District School Board May order the removal from a public meeting held by The District School Board of any person interfering with the um orderly process of such meeting providing such officer is first issued a warning and continued interference with the orderly processes of the meeting will result in that removal the the first warning is to everyone at this time no personal attacks no inciting and no disrespect please I will be calling you up two at a time the first person will be called to the podium to speak and the
034second person will be in line to speak after that speakers shall not engage in personal attacks or abusive language the chair has the right to terminate any speaker's privilege to address the board if that rule is violated if you have anything to give to board members or the superintendent please do this through our executive assistant Mrs Mor it is clear that the board has taken action to comply with the law regarding instructional materials including library books if you are here to express your opinion regarding HB 1069 on materials in school libraries we ask that you please visit staff in the lobby to initiate the challenge process finally the school district supports First Amendment rights of speakers and rights outlined in HP 1069 regarding Library materials as such some individuals may choose to exercise these rights
035which may include reading material with language or content that is not appropriate for all audiences knowing this please make a viewing decision appropriate for you and your family all right at this time I'd like to call our first Speaker Mr William shrer is he here okay on Deck will be mayeno hello good evening my name is uh could you speak more into the mic that possible good evening my name is Bill schrder veral citizen for the last I have a happy story school story to tell you tonight and I hope you enjoy it for the last 25 years I've been a governance consultant to a school in massachus es and I go there once a year last fall when I visited I was met by the principal who said guess what big change here no
036more phones this is the way it works the kids come in they stick their phones in an envelope get snap shut uh and the phones are disconnected later on we're in a couple of classes uh I guess the way your classes are tables of maybe three or four students and they're all hard at work one was in history and I think one in biology and the all the kids every kid eyes down and they were really working there no phones no distraction what a difference we stopped by and talked with a couple tables and the kids were right with it we left bingo back at work later on we had lunch in the cafeteria with the freshman and sophomore kids uh tables of eight oblong lunches served on trays and the jabbering and the talking
037was unbelievable it was all eyeballed eyeball very different than it used to be like this looking like this and they're happy reminded me of a girl's night out party in the restaurant so two weeks later I went to a fundraiser couple hundred adults in the downtown hotel and uh we had maybe uh all the Juniors and Senior kids were there in their uniforms walking around helping people get out of their cars come in the lobby and show them how to get upstairs to the ballroom taking them around to the various tables and then when the radatat fundraising came keeping people in pace so they could the money would keep flowing in and during the time before the dinner I talked to maybe 20 students and of course I asked them all about the phones oh
038we love it phones are great we don't miss them at all and I was getting honest answers I was not getting Schoolboard uh statements to be related these kids uh really didn't miss their phones so I was hoping I'd get back this year and I dozen followup questions uh but I'm not going to make it because the family problems thank you very much thank you sir appreciate it mayeno is next Lamar not to Jack MO is on [Music] Deck away but thank you for all you've done uh decisions as far as U removing inappropriate books from the libraries the school libraries they say there are none so blind as those who will not see and countless times has the difference between removal and banning been explained here but there are those who will not see
039so once again per Webster's Dictionary remove is to change the location position station or residence of and ban is to prohibit especially by legal means the books that have been removed from our school libraries have been taken to another location thus removing they are now in the public library please go check them out there for your children you may find many of them in the adult section or purchase them on Amazon no one has by legal means or otherwise prohibited anybody from using these books they are not banned one of our board members tried to clarify the difference at last month's meeting and was called a Marxist for his trouble this was nothing but a coordinated effort with CNN to Champion inappropriate sexually explicit books for children moms for Liberty received requests for comments from
040CNN before the school board meeting was even over but why Fred over having underage children exposed to pornography as long as books are being sold and there is free advertising on CNN for these authors work of course they'll write letters letters addressing the non-existent issue of banning books contained comments such as books deemed inappropriate mean the people in the books are inappropriate no it means the behavior the characters exhibit in the books are inap appropriate students and parents should be allowed to choose uh except in uh parents are not in the school libraries to guide their children in choosing wisely if these books are available that is why these books are better suited for a public library yes books are capable of planting seeds in child's minds but let us be mindful of what type
041of seed we are planning will it be the seed of Love of science uh or of helping their Community or will it be the seed of promiscuity and sexual confusion that was not there before this is about maintaining an Ence and not forcing Concepts that children are not ready to process due to their level of maturity I'm going to guess that the group that read these letters from the authors were not present at the August 2023 meeting where excerpts were read from these pornographic books would they have walked out of that meeting upon hearing the sexually explicit content in books in our schools probably since they can't seem to handle truth however they walked out of last month's meeting at the mere mention of Truth and showed a lack of respect for different opinion this
042from a group that is pretending to respect all groups of people I guess some just some people just refuse to see I'm proud to be a moms for Liberty joyful Warrior where our vision is 2020 and very clear on what the legal definition of pornography is and it is unacceptable in our school libraries so thank you for your work with that and so we will continue to do what is right for our children and not the authors right is right and wrong is wrong thank you okay Lamar Nota jakimo next Lynn barleta is on Deck I'm going to be very brief tonight but I want to thank May for her comments because I agree with her 100% And I appreciate so much what Jen Jennifer Pippen and moms for Liberty has done for our children
043uh the focus should be on education and not sexually explicit materials I also want to thank Kevin McDonald for working so hard um in his campaign for school board and I want to thank you for looking out for our children I think you knocked something like 70,000 doors um I never saw your opponent but anyway I just want to thank you for uh working so hard to earn the confidence of the public and and um I'm sorry that you didn't get elected but thank you all please continue looking out for our children they deserve respect and they don't deserve pornographic materials in the school classroom thank you okay Lyn berletta is next Gregory Ross is on Deck hello superintendent Moore and Sheriff Baron Borg and the board I am Lind Barletta the CEO and founder
044of visionary School of Arts and Florida Faith Alliance and I'm here with a number of volunteers and our Indian River County coordinators I want to applaud the board for inviting us in to present at your Workshop over the summer we fight child trafficking and we equip schools and staff and students and teachers with live presentations state-of-the-art peer-to-peer videos and curricula according to the justice department child trafficking is the fastest growing crime in the entire world America is the biggest buyer of sex every teen and every child is at risk sexting and sextortion is present in all schools as the top Gateway Florida is number three in the nation for hotline calls right here in Indian River County your Sheriff arrested eight men in the month of August this August and he was quoted as saying
045they potentially had over 16,000 counts of child pornography as young as infants and this included a grandfather who used AI to take his little granddaughter's face and place it on child porn to Market it worldwide which is a form of trafficking AI is now on the rise for use in approaching Children online and selling child porn over 50% of all prosecutions in the USA involve online recruitment over the last year we have documented another 10 arrests in Indian River that included a deputy from the Sheriff's Office a police volunteer a father trafficking his own 2-year-old son and we work closely with Homeland Security and local law enforcement we just finished training over 200 Martin County principal staff counselors nurses and social workers with live comprehensive workshops awareness has resulted now in many arrests and I
046personally have turned in a number of tips that have rescued victims just from one awareness presentation our videos in Martin County will be released to all students grade 2 through five in middle school high school this fall as well as all teachers since teachers are in the best possible position to recognize signs and take powerful steps in prevention we are at a crisis and I'm very hopeful that you will bring us in to do just what we completed in Martin County and we also train all the state supervisors for the Florida Department of Health and I have just presented to your curriculum Department dep for consideration I want to thank you for doing what is necessary to save lives Dr Moore I know you want to lead the way I'm here to help you thank
047you and and Lynn will be scheduling to get this done so we're g to get it done okay thank you thank you Gregory Ross next on Deck is Marilyn Leia okay good evening school board thank you for allowing public comment it's a very important thing to do I highly appreciate it my name is Greg Ross I'm from Bard County if you don't know I came and spoke on a couple of occasions last year I'm sorry sir may I uh is this is my time can we please stop the clock just stop the time a second um this is for the attorney point of order uh participation public participation and vulgar and obscene items uh I I'm pulling up the um the policy right now now can you please clarify uh for us the rules on
048obscenity or coming in with any signs of vulgarity or threatening manner or anything such as that and would acronyms play a role in that um through the chair the board's policy 01691 governs the public participation and um speech that would be um obscene or threatening or things of that nature profane are not permitted um that could include speech um worn on a shirt or something of that nature in which case it would be recommended to cover it up okay um sir can you please turn around no okay well we have something take a second we just take a second I think that's very inappropriate I I haven't seen the back of the shirt so I don't know I have the floor okay go ahead it is it is inappropriate it is it's an acronym I
049don't care what it is that's not how it's an acronym that I determine what it stands for care what it is you know what we're going to take a recess this work in any River County we're going to take a recess e e e Zoom at this time I'm going to call the next speaker Marilyn Leia my name is Marilyn Leia and I'm a member of Education Champions advocates for public education first I'd like to acknowledge the accomplishment of Dr Moore in our district for achieving an overall a score for the second year in a row only through the oh okay thank you I'm short only through the hard work and commitment of our administrators teachers and our students can we maintain this level of success congratulations to all of you earlier this summer along
050with several education Champion members we spoke with Dr shafty about Dodgertown Elementary regarding their designation as a steam school she said that it was an exciting program and encouraged us to visit the school to see for ourselves what the students would be experiencing we took her suggestion and set up an appointment to visit Steam Park just before school was scheduled to start when we called to arrange our visit we were told we would have someone quote take us on a tour unquote but when we arrived we were greeted by coordinator Terry wall and her enthusiastic team of fully engaged Educators from the moment we stepped into steam Park I was inspired by what I saw what struck me most as I toured the science technology engineering arts and Mathematics sections was that students would not
051just be learning facts from textbooks they would be actively involved in Hands-On projects and exploring new ideas with a sense of curiosity and excitement I can Envision students working on robotics coding art projects and experiments that will spark their Limitless imaginations for instance when learning coding from as early as kindergarten the student has a book along with a handson game board that teaches them how to code as they work through the games kindergarteners how awesome is that offering steam education can help close the achievement Gap making learning engaging and relevant these skills learned at elementary school level will not only lead to improved academic performance but can carry their interests throughout their school years and into the future the outcomes of this program teaches highly valued skills that will even be more crucial in the
052future by providing this opportunity we are giving children the chance to reach their full potential and I hope to see more schools participate in Steam allowing students to become the innovators thinkers and Leaders of Tomorrow in closing I would also like to say that before leaving we spend time with Feliz bag principal of dger toown and her enthusiasm for her teachers and students is truly contagious congratulations to all of you who have had a role in this investment of our children's Futures thank you thank you that was nice to hear Thomas Kenny is next Jennifer Pippen is on Deck I have the uh Doran Moore passing out stuff for you guys can I hold my time till we're ready thank you thank you thank [Applause] you okay first off congratulations Dr Jones on winning wonderful
053um I'd just like to talk about this the infamous US Constitution and Declaration of Independence that's been taking forever just to get distributed to eighth graders in our school um we first at Monster Liberty we do the distribute Distributing of these things uh 28 of 29 counties in the State of Florida in 2022 took them following the year the same thing ours seems to not to for some reason or another the first year we were told this is a political document I think any Charter of a nation is probably a political document throughout history whether it's a tyrant or where the people get to rule it's political document it's political statement it's a statement of how a country is going to be governed and I think every kid should engage in the Civic matter what
054I presented to you is this that comes with the delivery of the US constitutions in the boxes they're inserted and I'll read it for the public here it says as an educational 501c3 the 917 Society does not align with endorse or otherwise support any particular political candidate organization party or platform we do support our constitution the Democratic process and encourage Civic engagement and that's what these books are all about uh there was a thing mention about the QR code on the back that if you scan this QR code it'll take you actually to a digital copy of the US Constitution on your phone or on your desktop where you can access the material that's in this little booklet right here it's great to have hard copy you can also access it in Spanish that was
055one of the main reasons for this so our Spanish speaking students who are primary language is Spanish can also read the Constitution and see how this nation is governed if they don't know real simple stuff um it also gives opportunity if you look at this paper that where on we celebrate the Constitution class rooms decorate they do these things in Constitution week and a school in Margate Florida here the rise of eighth grade students were one of many 20 I believe yes that won $200 to decorate their classrooms however they wish after they won the contest simple wonderful things to celebrate the Constitution we have the language it was done by a board member to put a disclaimer in here that is needed for these books to be passed out this is not a political
056document and what it was said in 2022 and Mr Barefoot was here but it's a political document in that that it is a charter of a of a nation and so you have to look at it in very clear lenses very educational lenses to understand it and I think this is something every eighth grader should have something every high schooler should have it's something every grade students should have as soon as they're able to read and with that I thank you all for considering this again we are ready to go we have all of the numbers that we need to pass these out to eth graders thank you okay Jennifer Pippen is next and Michael Marsh is our last speaker good evening my name is Jennifer Pippen and I'm the proud chairman of moms for
057Liberty Indian River Florida I'm going to go a little off script here I'm a little emotional but thank you very much to the board law enforcement and everybody who just removed the gentleman who had threatening language for me on the back of his shirt kind of goes into my speech attack is a sign of respect it means the enemy has discerned your potential and the level of his attack isn't indication of the level of blessing of God has in store for you and the other side of it so instead of being discouraged about the Battle see it as a sign from God that your best days are ahead of you educationist Dr Moore Miss Rosario Dr PCO and Mr McDonald know best or more about us being prepared Minds to be open to ideas but
058some ideas are good such as being honest and concerned with the well-being of others and some ideas are actually harmful as a member of moms for Liberty the whole basis of our existence is n of our Nationwide organization is that we moms want to protect our children and the children from others from being indoctrinated from the so-called woke agenda much of which is harmful to children adults can be as woke as they want to as long as it does not harm others the last election in Indian River county is a learning experience for moms like me the and it's one I'm willing to embrace many of those who sincerely believe in wokeism are able to Tar us moms with wanting to ban books all of the local important media kept saying that they want us
059to ban books in hopes they could now write us out of town like the good old days when the people of the South who disagreed with freeing the slaves tarred you and ran you out of town on a rail but we aren't going anywhere the children are too important but we need to learn to not let others manipulate our meth message and not attack in kind who believe in wokeism we need to be awake and loving I pledge that going forward I will be more awake and loving to influence people you need to know and you they need to care for their children just as much as you care for your own and that their well-being is just as important as you caring for yourself but being awake also means that like most people know
060the difference between good and evil and right and wrong it's just common sense boys whatever their inclination should not be able to use girls restrooms and I believe 90% of the people in Indian River County and elsewhere agree with that wokeism does not but those who subscribe to wokeism were shrewd and do not talk about that Believers is wokeism says moms for Liberty want to ban books what we believe in is protecting vulnerable children young children should not be exposed to pornography in schools thank you for your time okay Michael Marsh you're our last speaker thank you good evening evening for once it's not my shirt so a long election cycle thank you thank you imagine almost half a million dollars and you still couldn't get rid of the vice chair the sheriff multiple County
061Commissioners ouch that's got to hurt huh so much money you know what that could have went for I don't know maybe a shelter for the couple hundred kids I identified still as homeless and it still didn't work when you run for office if you can't go off your own merits and you have to stoop so low to attack ads that tells you about the type of person that's running and it's funny because I look around and some of them people who ran they show ain't come tonight was it really about all the kids those pack Millers were disgusting absolutely disgusting from the sheriff's race to the Schoolboard race but it still didn't work we had state representatives City Council Members you had an entire team going after the sheriff through the chair Doc Jones and
062you still couldn't get the job done not not only did the community speak but they spoke in drov didn't they next through the chair I want to thank M Rosario because that policy that got rid of that billboard outside now on us one not yet a couple more months are paid there but the billboard that sign our school district from months upon months is gone speaker in a sheriff's office I feel so much safer there's something different about the sheriff's office I can't put my finger on it but I want to thank Captain abalo he's going to keep our kids safe along with your Indian River County Sheriff next I want to thank the Pio you know people take right to Facebook before they know the facts there was a post recently about Transportation totally
063false and thankfully for this Pi every time she's tagged she's on it boy emails go out so if you're going to speak bad about the school district at least speak factual information that transportation department great great Department over there ESC absolutely amazing been through many IEP meetings something about Oslo that's different through the chair we're going to again hey Dr Moore those wild cats under principal Morgan the work is good sir when you come in Oslo it looks like the other schools now we're not the redhead stepchild it looks beautiful over there so that's it um in two more years there'll be three important races ladies and gentlemen I just hope Jeff comes out of retirement for those races too it's quiet you can hear a pinfall huh anyhow I hope you guys have a
064great evening I don't really plan on returning it's getting a little boring but at least the same people they at least show up even if they are on different sides at least we could be civil isn't that what it's about civility on the board I heard that a few times and through the chair I want to thank Madam or congratulate our vice chair you did it DOC we love you okay Dr Moore would you like to speak just a a couple things um Mr Kenny I will follow up with you I guess this is a request so we'll go I'll follow up with you all right so we we'll go through that same process and do a brand new review for that um also want to acknowledge we have a a edu celebrity in in
065our audience and there's celebrities and there's people who are in education and they're edu celebrities uh so Mr Trent North is the superintendent in Douglas County Georgia and he is their State's uh superintendent of the year so he is here um he is here not to observe our board meeting but got in a little bit early tomorrow we have the opportunity to meet with uh Dr McMahon uh regarding our systems of data Miss basur and how we connect data to driving instruction uh in real time as quickly as possible and I hope when he goes back to his home District he's talking about those systems and not the board meeting that's my goal good luck okay any other board members like to speak yeah I will okay Mr go ahead um uh first I I
066I wish Miss barleta was here but she's not here so I'm glad that she showed up miss Lin Barletta from Florida Faith Alliance I'm happy that we are going that we are still moving forward with partnering with her um on um uh Florida Faith alliance's Mission to combat um child sexual um predation and um all the things that come with um attacking children essentially um and i' I'd like to just make a mention there was something about thanking me for removing a billboard I don't have anything to do with a billboard um I don't there's no billboard in front of the school board um and I mean in front of the school district and I did not remove any billboard um nor did I have any impact on any billboard um the other thing is
067uh Constitution Day well first let me let me just go Um somebody mentioned um con obviously Constitution uh but Constitution day is September 17th I think it's really really important I'm glad that you brought this up um the 9917 I don't understand what other review needs to be done it's already been reviewed it's been reviewed probably two years already every this would be the third year that it's in review I mean really it's the same booklet same thing the Constitution doesn't change the Constitutional booklet is incredibly important it is critical that children get a hand pocket in I mean a a pocket constitutional pocket size um uh booklet such as this one in their hand for them to take or not but at least that it would be available I know that um Dr Moore
068you have said that students have received an electronic version um and but you know who in reality which student is actually downloading a a a an electronic or actually reading the electronic the pocket one can be placed in you know their back pocket or their book bag can be taken home it can be reviewed I mean it is so important our constitution is critical to democracy Everyone likes democracy our constitution is critical to democracy in our Republic so I think that it is really really important especially with 9/11 coming up 911 the events that occurred on 911 no one knows knows how horrible that was except for those who were actually there although it may have um you know affected other people in other places um uh you know but it is named as Patriot
069Day both of those things are coming up um I just think that we're just going around in circles trying to um avoid the inevitable so at any point in time board members are allowed to make motions and at this point I make a motion to approve the 917 Society Constitution to be given to our students in 8th grade I second that okay so that would then be an action item it can be made at any time right but you're making it as an action item to be voted on it can still be made at any time I understand that I just said you're making an action item for vote correct put it on action if you'd like yes okay do I'm just asking that's what you're asking for okay so I'm going to put it
070on action now we have two new action items we are really challenging that tonight okay anyone else like to speak to Citizen input Mr and on the same topic actually um because as a society we can only survive much less Thrive if we can have agreement um talked in the past about civility uh but we do not have a religious Society so our agreement will not be based on a particular religious belief per se but our our society is based on an agreement that set of rules and principles are going to govern our uh govern our interaction with each other and ultimately govern our actions towards each other because the Constitution is not intended to be a restriction on others it's supposed to be us putting restrictions on our own freedoms for the sake of
071others and so therefore it is highly important that we pass on um the understanding of our culture and our rules and our principles to children so that one they can understand what might be expected of them but two so that they can live and have the privilege of the uh uh the freedoms and the culture and society that we have lived in those of us who' have been around here for as many years as I have so I think it's highly Val valuable and I think it uh it's the one thing we have that can draw us together when not everything else draws us together so I I want to speak in favor of it um not only for our schools but for uh for everybody because I think it would be we would have
072a lot more civility if we can agree to restrain ourselves based on this document okay just a couple comments um I think Mr Shader has left but um thank you for sharing that on the school uh phones I was the principal subor for high school when the state statute allowed students to have phones on campus around 2008 and I was only principal there one more year before I went up to Gainesville and I knew that would be a problem and it was but I think this board's doing a good job of getting a better hold on it during the classroom and uh uh last year was tough I think with the discipline but we knew those numbers would go up so I'm very very proud that we did that um thank you to I'm sorry
073I forget your name the workshop dealing with child trafficking I know we looked at that we talked about it I know Dr Moore was looking at a few other things that we had or what could work but thank you for bringing that up because it's very very important that we keep our children safe thank you didto all right with that I'm moving to um our consent agenda I'd like to call for a motion to approve the consent agenda item as amended so moved thank you second Dr PCA Dr Jones any discussion all those in favor say I I I anyone opposed okay the consent agenda passes Dr Mo did you want to say something about the consent agenda no the tan no no if it's on consent no okay send home thank you okay all
074righty so now moving to action we've already voted on action uh letter a and letter B we are moving to letter C we do have two speakers for 9 C Mr Marsh this is for the approval to set public hearing date for the adoption of the revisions to Schoolboard policy 01651 agendas 0164 notice of meetings 0165 meetings 01 69.1 participation at board meetings and the associated action I'm you in consent agenda you pulled that item we're in action now for Action I move to action We Ready consent I'm sorry not C right I thought miss Doc Jones requested to have this push to I understand then therefore I'm just reading the item and letting the speaker speak and then we're going to talk about the it's it's not on the agenda there's no it's not
075there to speak it was already on action when uh board memb is asking for postponement we still have to vote on a postponement you did when you approve the agenda no she asked to to postpone the item okay all right okay now to postpone like take it off all right so let me finish um 01 69.1 participation at board meetings and the associated speakers form um at this time we have a speaker Mr Marsh oh thank you very much Madam chair for letting me speak so this this item is so interesting because I kind of feel targeted we didn't touch citizen input or anything surrounding it until I started to speak 10 times which was my Max uh very excited about that but again we're going to go through all this work with striking through
076words just to do what to restrict speech that's what this is I mean we we try to figure and let me not say we because as of right now it's the majority but December is right around the corner this restricts speech why not allow citizens whether it's on the agenda or not on the agenda we should be able to speak on all items what this does is the same thing that happened months ago and through the chair your Schoolboard attorney already gave her word on it and then what happens we fast forward a few months we have another attorney and we flip-flopped and we restricted my speech at this Podium but then just months prior your board attorney made it very clear as to yes he's able to speak so when does it end we're
077going to do this to satisfy one board member and a majority because they don't like what I'm saying it's not the messenger God bless you Kenny it's the message and if you take away our message you're doing exactly what we get up here and fight for now there's a difference between obscene and just allowing a person speak what are you so afraid of that we're going to get up here and say whether it's on the agenda first off then don't add anything keep it to as the agenda is printed that's fair for everyone but when you play this game just to make one person happy you restrict speech and I'm not really coming back so I don't care what you do but again look at the policy why are we doing this we're doing this
078because I spoke 10 times and I beat the system and we don't want to keep hearing Michael Marsh get up here and respond to items listen it's board business let the people speak even miss Pippen said I should speak we're stronger together on that piece so at what point do we stop infringing on our rights to speak this is done just for me I I thank you I feel so special that you figure out a way that I can't speak 10 times I don't even want to come back and do it I'm kind of done I was just here to celebrate but lastly before I sit down and enjoy this 3 minutes your Schoolboard attorney through the chair who's a real attorney and doesn't play one on the DAT has said I can speak and
079now we're going to put policy in place for verbage to beat Michael C Marsh am I that good I think so good night hey Jennifer Pippen so if this policy if these policies do pass um we do ask through our membership to allow adequate time for changes to be made in February of of 22 when the citizen comment changed from to from a different time um it was voted on and T discussed in the superintendent Workshop prior so if people were not watching that meeting or if they were working they were not aware of the time change in February 22 so all I'm asking is if you do make this change to please make sure you're pushing it through your social media websites you're putting it on board docs you're doing a connecta at home
080you're doing an email everything that you can do so this way if people do want to speak they don't realize that there's a time change when they do get here and in that February 22 meeting was the first book vote so there was hundreds of people here there was hundreds of people outside and in the lobby and it was very hard to get to the window and get there on time and then when we found out it was changed and had to come inside it was just a real a real hassle for people who were ready to speak and 11 people didn't get to speak at that meeting because of the time change so all I'm asking is if you do approve these policies so please be mindful not everybody is watching this superintendent Workshop
081um many of our parents are either working or they're with young children and we're not aware of those changes also um I find it interesting that um Brian Barefoot missed 12 meetings in two years um some of those meetings he was not here some of those meetings were on zoom and the first time that Dr PCA is working and he went on a zoom meeting now this policy is getting in place so I kind of find that um interesting that when you have a board member who missed that many meetings so if they were consecutive he would have missed a year of meetings um the one meeting that Dr PCA he clearly was working in his uh in his scrubs and his lab coat now this policy is getting changed and that's p165 and I'm
082just going to end with um just be very careful um we've seen in um other counties where you try to do a group public comment where somebody will speak to the group and then they'll speak at the end if there's a long line of speakers just making sure that the person is only speaking once during citizen comment so for example if I was speaking for moms for Liberty and I went first and then you know 30 40 50 speakers down the way just make sure that we're keeping track because a lot of districts did Implement policies like that and I see that you're making perfect and but you're not going to be the chair for forever so just making sure that um you know this is done because it has been um issues in other
083districts so thank you for your time okay so the item is um 9C approval to set public hearing date for the adoption of the revisions to Schoolboard policy 0165 point1 agendas 0164 notice of meetings 0165 meetings 01 69.1 participation at board meetings and the associated speakers form this item is for approval to set a public hearing for revisions to this policy however we have a board member that has asked for a PO postponement Dr Jones would you like to speak yes um just a few words on that you know setting policy is one of the most important jobs we do as a board and when I look all through these policies we we spend a workshop and really talked about these but then we got the writing back and the district does a great job
084on trying to interpret what everybody is saying there five board members and I just think it's too much to just go ahead and approve these without really talking about them at a workshop um there are five policies um when we go to a public hearing that means we agree with what we said in these changes and I just think there's too many things that we should discuss so I'd ask that it be postponed until our Workshop which is September 9th correct Dr Moore September 9th yes we have a workshop millage and a safety meeting so I just asked you to take a look at those I'm sure you all look through those some have very few changes some have quite a few um but I just have a real issue which just saying we're going
085to do that goes to our public to review um I think we need to do a little bit more homework first so I'd ask for a postponement okay um Mr raro I'm going to ask that you speak next if you want because you're the one that brought all these policy changes correct I but the item is not for approval the item first is for postp you want to speak to the postponement I do not want to speak to the postponement no okay um you want to comment go ahead um I mean I I uh I hear your words I we did spend a lot of time uh discussing these at at workshops and even some of them going back to Prior workshops we really started discussing some of these um so I guess if you're
086if you're asking for a postponement is there anything right now you can point to that you have a concern about um well one by one I do um but um I would like to wait to see if we get the PO postponement because then I'm going to ask for something else if that doesn't happen okay a little but I know where you're going with that yes sir I just and I agree with what Dr PCA said U for the most part but we hadn't discussed the wording that had come to us yet that was a week before the agenda and we know we always get them a week before so obviously I couldn't talk to board members about that so that was my main concern but thank you Mr McDonald no Madam chair I'm sorry
087I I changed my mind may I okay address okay with regard to postponement we discussed in June on our June 10th meeting we discussed it in July at our July 22nd Workshop in detail every single one with all of the corrections and edits very few were made where is Miss Christa Foley she's not here right now oh no I'm I'm sorry um Dr jaob um Dr Jacobs um Dr Jacobs took uh copious notes on whatever the feedback was from the board members um that was July 22nd Workshop we all provided feedback um it is in our minutes on August 19th it was posted with 7-Day notice and board members had plenty of time just like all other policies this is no different than any other policy every other policy follows the same process it goes
088to Workshop it goes through the vetting it gets you know corrected or whatever it gets presented to board members in seven days in advance and then it comes to a business meeting it's no different and here we are tonight if you didn't I'm sorry if you didn't have time to review it or ask questions but everybody has time to review everything which in my opinion I believe there was only one thing that was significant and that was the form which is what was presented to me um and it was just the format of the form mam chair yes go ahead um I did review all of it my statement was we haven't talked about it since the wording came out with all the wording and as far as every policy gets the same way no
089ma'am we had a policy recommendation with aot today we had a policy recommendation 3 months ago about the discussion item and that policy was changed on the spot so yes this is this is the correct policy what we're doing as far as formatting I'm just saying with all the changes we haven't been able to discuss as a board so that was my only reason but I respect what you're saying yeah we we talked about it on the workshop in in jly so but not the final wording that we had yeah one concern I have is um for example couple things in here the virtual participation was something I had brought up and then didn't discuss again as a matter of fact I took it down and didn't ask for it to come back up so
090that didn't come from me by the way no um so that's one thing that we never discussed well another I'm not done another thing that we didn't discuss was the terms I'm looking there was a term that you used and I was sitting there going propositions instead of um votes or something I'm not sure sure exactly how you put that I can't find it right now um so there were a couple things in here that I have not had the opportunity to discuss with the board members which I guess is what we're supposed to do tonight but I'm going to tell you with the number of policy changes we have here we could go into the we hours with some of the questions that I have or other board members might have so that's why
091I like the fact that if you bring it to a workshop that's where we have those times to that amount of time to be able to discuss we did it in Workshop already but we not discuss what you put in here I well I will actually I'm going to um address the virtual the virtual is indeed something that I want to bring up separately from the postponement because I do agree with you on the virtual the virt this isn't the time to talk about it but the virtual was added on not even by me the virtual part was added on by District as a result of nea's recommendation not me but that would come during the regular discussion of it which is what I was going to bring up anyway so but that's separate and
092apart from the postponement um conversation we vote on that okay so let's take a vote then um would you like to make a motion to make to postpone this yes I would like to make a motion to postpone action agenda C approval to set public hearing date for the adoption of the revisions to school board policies 165.1 sorry 164 165 16 9.1 okay there's a motion on the floor is there second I'll second it okay all those in favor say I I I any opposed opposed oppos okay so it fails the postponement fails two to three fails three to two well it's a failure so it's two to three okay so moving on to the item then so there is an item on the floor for approval to set public hearing for the adoption of
093the revisions to the Schoolboard policies so I'm going to suggest that we look at each of these policies to discuss separately Madam chair can I just yes present the it is my item yes I know um so staff did a absolutely outstanding job of listening to board members and I think all of you do acknowledge this process that we established through the the protocols um I would say 95% of the time 98% of the time has worked very efficiently uh meaning the board has a conversation five individuals five different perspectives um and we capture the the the desire of what I believe to be the board proper and then we forward that specific item so yes these are a a number of policies that were put together and this is the standard way in which
094which we have always done it um and it is a lot of change but not significant in terms of well it is significant from the board meeting from the workshop to this specific meeting um but I would encourage the board to have to have that discussion uh and ask any questions whether it be of myself or staff um the addition of the virtual component is you need to keep in mind we are also going through the Neola process which we're going to bring 85 policies to the board so it wouldn't behoove us to approve this policy and then a month later add in the recommendation regarding the virtual thing so it wasn't a recommendation of Miss Rosario uh who took the initiation of writing these it wasn't Miss barenborg who had a similar thought two
095or three months ago it was actually staff saying let's get in front of this so we can be it efficient and you you have not had a public conversation regarding that piece of of the the policies you are not approving the policies tonight you're just sending them to a public hearing it will come back at the October board meeting uh because we don't have a number of days in between this meeting and O and uh the next board meeting uh to have it appropriately advertised um you will hear from the community typically we have no one speak uh regarding these policies but you may have someone speak to this particular item and then ultimately you will be approving these policies um in October so tonight I I think it's valuable that you have the conversation
096um but you'll have the opportunity again in October after you hear from your community if they choose to um speak to have yet another conversation so I just wanted to kind of rationalize the the structure um as to why these items are coming before you uh just adhering to the protocols that you as a board have created thank you okay let's start with policy meetings is there anyone that would like to discuss that one yes ma'am okay Dr John um obviously we use Robert's rul Rules of Order the latest addition in our policies I'm not sure why we added Special Rule of Order Florida uniform rules of procedure which I understand what they are but I just think sometimes when you add these things makes it a little bit harder to fine-tune it so what
097would be the purpose of that I did talk with a certified parliamentarian it's just kind of muddying the water when our Roberts rules I think work pretty well in our policies our bylaws and policies on how to run meetings that was one of my first questions May who you asking the question of Dr Moore okay Dr Moore so when it comes to these particular policies what the language that has been added um is legally sufficient um if the it is the will of the board to add this language then it's the will of the board to add this language it does become and I have said it a a number of times it does become more complex the more information that you add or that you vary from Neola structure but that is the prerogative
098of the board to do so um so as we create policies that are not that VAR significantly from Neola it it requires a significant amount of work to track so as an example just to understand that the 85 policies that are coming for change to the board come based on nea's previous policy they don't track our changes or modifications to our policies that's that's our job so it becomes very efficient to do when we have minimal changes okay um we were not tracking those changes prior to my arrival it literally took uh Miss dampierre um years to go back in review policies to find out well the board change this the board changed that the board and I'm not saying that is a negative thing it's the prerogative and right of the board to do
099so um but as we change it um it it does become more complex on staff and the volume of time I have to shift responsibilities in order to make sure those things happen or or ultimately get get done so when we go through a a process here the these have been reviewed for legal sufficiency they have they're they're they're longer probably than what niola has you're adding definitions there's another section where you can include definitions in our policies whether it's definitions um but based on the conversation that I listen to uh in workshop and my my job in that specific reality was to listen to the board all five board members and create a policy that was reflective of that conversation and I think that's what we did based on that conversation and and I
100understand that you know one board member might say something the other one doesn't say anything might not always mean that you agree but um that was my main question why would we have that couple more on that area may may I ask um what what question you had I because you I just didn't know why we added special Rules of Order Florida uniform rules of procedure he said where do you see that in this policy is that 165 or 165.1 Dr Moore when you said um this is legally sufficient but we were also legally sufficient before we added this correct okay I'm just I just didn't know why it was added um the special meetings where it says no less than 24 hours for emergencies at least 7 too um preferable I I'm okay with
101that but sometimes emergencies happen and you have them the next day obviously we'll do our best on that but preferable 72 um but we'll at least give 24 hours is that correct okay just want to make sure there and the video recordings I mean these people come here to speak because they have something to say um and I'm not sure if we had this years ago but it says that all faces and board members face be present that you could see the faces I don't know if anyone's coming here to see their face I think they're coming here because they have something very important to say why would we add that or what would be the purpose I mean purpose is the business meeting I I said that at at the workshop that was um
102a decision that I made um and the board is by this policy removing that Authority from me so we I did make the decision me to have the one camera view that falls down we don't go camera 1 camera two we when we're not moving uh we're not focusing it on people who are coming to speak we're not focusing on board members we simply have one one camera view um does that make it harder to facilitate a board meeting do we only have one digital specialist where we had two in previous years um yes it it does make it more complex can I do it yes and as the board had that conversation I think I said almost the exact same thing the exact same way um but there was there was no desire from
103any board members to say I don't think we should should have it that way so I I left it the way that it was okay and continuing on 165 um the virtual participation um roll call okay it says all votes taken during a meeting conducted with at least one board member participating through an electronic means of Comm communication she be by roll call that's on the virtual component that was added correct that that was added that is new language that that's yet to be discussed by the board proper okay all right I just had a question on that was that Neola Dr Moore that was a Neola recommendation that we kind of fast forwarded so we didn't have to bring this policy back twice SM okay and one last thing on 165 um I think
104it was in this one please forgive me um minutes of the meeting public record when a when the person responsible is finished before it's sent to the board for approval it is public record that is so even though we haven't approved it and then we may have some corrections it's public record and they may be getting something we didn't say or we didn't approve yep that's the law you so we can correct that as soon as possible yeah and we as it's just because we're a public entity it is a fact of public record but then ultimately it does come before the board as a as an opportunity and if anything it does help everyone to make sure that we're looking at it and making the corrections to the minutes I think we had an
105issue probably oh six seven months ago in which we cleaned up some language um so I do send those to board members as soon as we have them to give you as much time as possible to read and if anyone ask for that public record we would provide it because ultimately it's capturing this meeting that's being recorded and presented live anyway Miss Mor and your your team does a great job on that but just the minute it's finished I don't remember the timeline on how soon we get them all the time but she is her own team so I'm sorry thank you Miss Mory all right that's all I have on that one okay anyone else oh on this item I'm just I don't know if we actually came to a conclusion regarding the addition
106of special Rules of Order in Florida's uniform rules um and I I tend to concur with the idea that knowing Robert's Rules is quite difficult and interjecting those other two rules would probably make it virtually impossible for us to to know which rules we follow and how to proceed I agree and I just I'm sorry madam chair sorry yeah you go ahead sorry okay you are you done no I'm sorry I would like I would like to hear opinions because I guess I would lean towards maybe not including those I'm sorry say that again I would like to hear what others feel because I would lean towards not including those and not making it more complicated and difficult all right anything else on this Mr McDonald you have the floor I know everybody else wants
107to interject but you have the floor then I'm going to talk for all okay you're good okay Dr Jones did just say saying that I did talk to a certified parliamentarian about that and I he just said it could be a little bit murky when you add all of this um and I looked it up I haven't used those before but maybe Miss um Shad could just say a little bit your feeling on that one I think Robert's Rules and our bylaws are plenty for what we needed to guide us uh yes thank you through the chair so um when you have Robert's rules that governs your meetings but it doesn't necessarily mean that that's the only thing that governs your meetings so your bylaws also govern and then any um other statutes like form
108rules and statutes those things also govern so some of the things you get from Robert's Rules but you also have to keep into into consideration that something like Florida Statutes would Trump right so anything that's set forth in the law would ultimately um Trump so you might have a law that says you know all board members have to vote unless there's a conflict of interest in Florida right and so you have to do that even if Roberts rules you know doesn't have that rule so that's where you do have to to pay attention to you know more than just Robert's Rules so we have sorry sry no that's right are you still talking about that yes so we have Roberts rules bylaws and then obviously we have to follow State Statute I just think a
109couple of the things would just make it challenging or difficult Mr zarya um this line here um was um taken directly from Sunshine Law so that's why it is in here we originally had Robert's Rules of Order but in consultation with um with legal and getting um an understanding of what legal sufficiency I I Believe Miss shad's explanation is pretty clear there um that there would be times there could be times where we would need to use something else other than Robert's Rules but we know that our meetings are run by Robert's rules um the uh our our general meetings rather uh Dr Moore mentioned something about the videos and that um we would be removing his authority in fact um I would disagree um when the decision was made to change the view of
110the camera you actually removed our Authority because the board meetings are the boards not the superintendent not a superintendent meeting and so with making that decision without consulting the board or allowing the board a part of that to be a part of that discussion it removed us from that discussion and this board member did come to you with concerns over it if others didn't you know and it's not so much about the video where it's focusing I think it's just the fact that the decision was made without us in our board meeting um so it was made without consulting and I just think that it should go back to the way it's been for forever um the other thing about I will also say that the last part of this policy virtual participation um I
111do agree it it I I think because it was added on I understand the UN the the the concern about not revising the same policy again in a few weeks or next month or Whatever Whenever neolis comes back to us um but I do believe that in this particular circumstance it would it would probably have served the superintendent uh better to have better prepared the board members on this one particular part on the virtual participation part um I know that I was you know detailed on it um I'm not particularly happy with the language in this part you know in this the second paragraph is very confusing um and and again this comes directly from Neola and board members I would also just tell you that even though niola is recommending this this is not
112I was told it was not based on any changes in law Neola recommended it I I have no idea why only just because they recommended it has nothing to do with any changes in law or changes in the sunshine to my knowledge it was just their recommendation we don't have to agree to it at all and just continue with the way that the work has been going it doesn't really change the work if you're remote you know and and everything here just BAS basically says the same thing that we're doing anyway um but that second paragraph actually reads a board member May attend virtually in instances where a member is unable to attend in person due to a scheduled absence from the district or due to a physical restriction preventing attendance the board member is
113responsible for making Advanced arrangements with the District administration to facilitate participation in the meeting I just think that last sentence would just be suffice I don't think anything else if you can make it you can make it if you can't you can't and we all just notify the superintendent anyway I'm not going to be able to make it I'm going to be on you know teams um I just think it's way too wordy and complicated to just say the same thing uh but that's my opinion if you all want to keep it in I'm fine with keeping it in it doesn't change basically anything in this policy B you know it's just complic ated language for no reason to be honest that's it yes okay you didn't have to anything I I got nothing to
114add it looks good okay all right so I'm going to start with the first green which is all board men meetings conducted with accordance to Robert's Rules of Order um you know I'm going to have to go back and look and see where that's written because I only remember Robert's Rules of Order and the U Florida Statutes and the state board of education is what rules our meetings so I'm going to have to go and see where the special Rules of Order and Florida's uniform rules of procedure um are stated that we have to follow that because that's new to me the other thing is on video recordings so I'm so old that I remember when we were in the old building and we didn't have video recordings so you made the comment that that's
115been going on forever has not been going on forever because we did not have have video recordings back in the day and I remember when we first started them and why they became the thing to to watch on Friday night with your beverage of choice is because people would get up there because the camera was on their face and they would speak to anything they wanted that had anything to do with anything in their life and there was no time period back then so they were just going on and on and on and on and on and they were running for elections for different things in different places and it it was just comical to watch I don't want to be the the Friday night comedy show I want to be the board business getting
116talking about education and kids it I don't understand why we have to video record if tonight wasn't a good example of why we shouldn't video record people I don't know what else you know um we had an incident tonight where somebody wanted to make a statement and have it on video and now they have that and they can use it and that's what this is about is using it for other purposes so to me I don't even want the video recordings I don't think we need them in law it says you just have to record your meetings it does not say you have to do it by video so um I understand we do the video recording of the meeting so people can see what's going on with the Schoolboard I have no problem with
117that I do have a problem putting somebody's face up front and center or their shirt or whatever their message is that they want to say because it's a political statement I think we've had enough political statements if we're going to be the leaders of the town to say let's all kind of Kumbaya come together let's do that you know let's stay away from the politics and let's focus on education and let's stop with all the grandstanding and that's grandstanding when somebody's doing something like that that we saw tonight so I have a real problem with that um the other section I wanted to get to was is the part with the video um being on teams virtual participation the reason I brought it up and it probably wasn't good timing on my part I apologize
118for that it it had nothing to do with that it had to do with the fact that when Mr Barefoot was absent a lot um there were times where I was sick and there was one time in particular that I was at home sick and was going to be on teams but I had to come in sick because um we wouldn't have had a a a quorum and by law we have to have three people sitting on this dis and if we always have the same two people on teams how fair is that to the other three it's not you know we all committed to be part of this board we all committed that to give our time and energy to that I understand when you're called away for meeting or we gosh we we
119have a vacation once in a while or something like that that's fine I just didn't want it to be a continuous thing like it happened before and so um that's the reason why I brought it up originally I just wanted to make sure that we weren't putting other board members in the problem of trying to get a quorum and that's that was the problem I had before was you know do we have a quorum I would always ask every meeting do we have a quorum do we have a quorum and um I want to make sure that we're not ever put in that position where we can't meet because we don't have a quorum so that's the reason why I brought that up um as far as the roll call I like that because sometimes
120you can't hear what somebody's saying or there's delay and so it I'm fine with the roll call I just got to remember to do it so somebody's going to remind me that if somebody's on teams we have to do a roll call for every vote okay um those are the those are the issues that I had with all of those so um I remember when the video thing became a real nuisance and it seems to have kind of calmed down a little bit other than tonight um and I just don't want to go back to that that's all that's the reason why I I'm okay with the one camera shot um people can see who's there you know and if you look at other um boards across the State of Florida a lot of boards
121do that they have it of the whole room so you can tell who's going up to speak you can hear the person's name you just don't have to focus in on what their political statement is that they're wearing or seeing or talking about so or wanting to show that's all all right so that was on 0165 can I comment on 165 y so so since it came up I just want to say that I go to Great Lengths to make sure um I schedule work obviously around these board meetings these board meetings take great priority um I'm constantly maneuvering my schedule to make it um as I am very happy that I do you I'm glad to be here um sometimes I get calls though um from a director of a hospital and they say
122you know somebody just went out on emergency maternity leave they got a problem with their baby um someone's else is in the hospital we can't staff our hospital and they know me personally and I have to choose between knowing that patients are going to be at risk um because the doctors that are there are going to have way too many patients they're probably going to be burnout and make mistakes um or I can participate virtually and I I think it's a very rare event that it happens um but sometimes you know sometimes I got to go see patients and then sit down at the desk and have the meeting um and I I I certainly hope it doesn't happen very often I I don't think it will um but I I think I'm I'm always
123going to strive to make the right decision um and I think I have that I understand not a problem um I just I just don't want it to be in the habit again of what we had before so that we don't have a quorum that's all that's my concern all right let's move to 01651 which is agendas uh Madam chair would you uh since we just discussed it want you wanted to bif for Kate do you want to just need a motion to bate well we don't really need to bifurcate because this action agenda item is to approve to set a public hearing so we don't have to bif forgate unless people are saying we don't want to put one of them on a public hearing yes you're right okay okay we're just discussing like
124the superintendent said now is a good time to discuss it for the first time and then when we have the public hearing we can discuss it again okay who would like to speak to this item which one is it again uh 01 165.1 agendas I've got one one note on that one okay thank you madam chair I'll make sure I'm right here um 165.1 action or proposition again that kind of to me we haven't used the word proposition before we have our Act in the mic sorry we haven't really used the word proposition before you know I've researched it and so forth we have action items we have consent items we have uh consent items pulled to action again I just think it's too much I think what we're doing works works really well um
125and that was one of the components and I think this was also the one excuse me where we're looking 14 days um regarding sorry getting information Dr Moore was that the 14 days one and I'm thinking to myself lot of time and a lot of changes could happen we get it to you eight days ahead so the Press can know it's seven days ahead and our community and I have a concern with that am I correct on that one so 14 days in most circumstances 14 days would be fine but when there's were the how I've structured the office and the timelines that we've established we're five six weeks ahead of the work anyway there always will be the last piece of information regarding a contract that's not in the things that are outside of
126of our control but but typically um that wouldn't be an issue and and when it does in all honesty I I would just notify the board as we have as as we current as we currently do okay okay I just had a concern over the 14 days even if a board member wants to add an item it may not come to you um 14 days ahead something comes up so we'll be flexible if we need to be flexible that's my main concern okay anyone else on this item no Mr Rosario yeah um The Proposition is not something new it was on our one of our old agendas but it just wasn't clear you know it was on one but it wasn't on another anyway it's in our um Sunshine manual and it is covered under
127statutes 2860 one14 number two it says members of the public shall be given a reasonable opportunity to be heard on a proposition before a board or commission and then it continues with proposition and so on so that's where you get that the other thing is um I think that was it just one more com yes um again I just even what Mr McDonald said earlier with bylaws and adding something um it might have been older um agendas I just think that what we have is working and what we had was legally sound am I correct madic um through the chair yes that's correct all right thank you the only comment on that one okay Mrs Rosario no nothing more good all right so yeah I was wondering where the 14 days came up why are
128we moving from 8 days to 14 days well we talked about this um we're not moving it's when he can provide it for us 14 days in advance this would be a perfect example if you didn't feel you had seven days enough time to review the policies that come before you he could give it to you 14 days in advance and give you two weeks to review it before a board meeting rather than give it to you 7 days before there's no reason to give it to us there were items that come before us that there's no reason for us to receive them seven days we could get them way before have plenty of time to ask questions um I forget what it was that um it recent oh let's talk about the foundation when
129the items for the foundation were presented um they were presented to us 7 days prior to being on a formal agenda um I had a lot of questions and once something is posted and made public no changes can be made to that document questions could be asked but no changes can be made unless it comes to the board in a public Hearing in a public meeting and so if with seven days in advance what happened um sorry I don't mean to point over here it's where I sit exactly where you are um where we uh when we came to the workshop I wound up ask asking questions for an hour and a half on items that were very significant that needed to be changed on the foundation on the bylaws of the foundation but had
130we G been given more time I would have been able to come to the superintendent on day 14 he would have given it to me day 15 16 I could have said hey I've got concerns about this this this and this and then on day seven he could have said those concerns have been addressed here is the final document rather than sit before although I'm okay with that if we don't get it in plenty of time then you know we'll have the public discussion but so so you're saying that 14 days then would shorten our meetings we wouldn't have as long a discussion no I'm not saying that at all darn it is that what you wanted no but I I I think you're I items you're having conversation and there's always going to be
131the exception to the rule right um but the majority of time I get accused of being too early and and I I already are briefed you on items that you're going to have um in in six weeks so the process for me this add the addition of this 14 days changes hardly anything in terms of how we do this work and you have that information I have another example on I've got I've got the floor so um I'm okay if you want to just keep it 14 what I have a concern about as if a board member wants to bring an item and the reason why is because like I just went to the east Regional U meeting and had a had the 14 days I wouldn't have been able to make that the the
132item for here and it would have been re relevant we would have waited a month and a half versus just two weeks for that discussion so I have a hard time with board members doing that because we go out into different things um if I go on a different meeting here that was a good example I went to that meeting got some information wanted to bring it back and present it to the board had I not had that information um prior to 14 days I would have had to wait another meeting and that would have been a whole month because of the workshop so I have a hard time with that for board members so I see where it says um have every effort made in good faith to board provide board members with something
133um the agenda shouldn't be distributed no later than 7 days so I still think that we should honor the8 days where it says um may add individual agenda items 8 days prior to the meeting so I'm fine with that as long as board members aren't expected to get away from the eight days that's all uh yes Dr Jones okay I just want to reiterate um seven days ahead for me was fine I read every every word on this agenda as I do every time I just said that we had not had time to discuss all the changes that were sent to us we cannot discuss those After we receive them on the agenda which we are doing now so obviously there was um some concerns some issues and I just think at a workshop we
134could have really tightened it up um before we send it to policy I'm very good with the seven days I read read every word that's sent to me thank you the seven days is not for us the seven days is for superintend I'm just saying I don't want it to be assumed that it's for us no it shouldn't and if if it is not it's actually the superintendent presenting to us items that will be be on the agenda 7 days in advance and in good faith 14 days in advance or however where I don't have it in front of me exactly right do do you remember when we were first on the board we were getting them on Friday night to be voted on on Monday you don't remember that I do and then that
135changed and we would get items not everything no but we would get some items brand new on Friday night yes before Dr Moore was here I I'm not disagreeing with you we did have a lot of issues there um and we have come a long way but there are plenty of times where seven days just isn't enough time for us to review certain items it isn't and sometimes you do need more time here's another example we have our meetings with him on let's say I think all of us have a meeting with him on Monday with the superintendent on Monday I come into a meeting I don't know what we're going to discuss I often go in blind I have my own list but now if I had another week of notice of hey we're
136going next week we're going to discuss these items tentatively we're going to discuss these items I can come in on that day on that Monday prepared to ask questions prepared to say hey I don't really like this or where does this come from or how can we you know tweak this whereas we're giving it given that item on that Monday and once it's published by 5:00 p.m it's done no other changes can be made to it so it goes nowhere it's useless at that point and it just has to wait until we meet in the p in you know in in in our meeting either in our Workshop or in our board meeting and that's not okay for us to do business for us to do business we should be prepared walking into our meeting
137with him instead of saying well this is going to be on the agenda I can't tell you how many times we've been in meetings and I'm like okay that's going to be on but where is the item and I'm not talking about some of the items that we get in board briefings a month or two months in advance that's not what I'm talking about I'm talking about other things that just are not are not there because a deadline or something else you know and that planning has to be done appropriately in order for me to be able to ask questions if I can't ask questions then I'm said then I'm asked do you have any questions I don't know what to ask questions of it's not in front of so that's the kind of thing
138that this 14 days would allow okay I have a question superintendent is that going to be a problem for you so the 14 days I just to review the process it is about eight weeks in advance so we will the cabinet members present items to me I clear them um and then they brief board members which is in fact the item in itself that email comes from Miss Holmes so the information is there available um as I present an item my goal is to present the item as I see it um based on my recommendation to the board and there will be opportunities where board member a thinks you should change this or board member C thinks I should change that I'm not looking for consensus to build a policy I'm putting forward a recommendation
139that I think is best so there will be opportunities where one board member think that that's not a good idea it's my recommend ation vote not and that's ultimately The Authority that each individual board member has the structure in itself and that's those are the items that I present the items in which the board has to um approve and and we are we are extremely efficient the 14 days quite honestly based on the schedule that we have created isn't an issue um and I think cabinet does one heck of a job of making sure that information is available the structure that is in place and pushing out that information to make sure board members have it um is extremely efficient I think it is an absolute model um I think most of probably oh my
140gosh 14 days is is is too much but it is the absolute exception to the rule when we don't have that information um I just can't imagine what what cabinet is thinking like oh my gosh what what is what are they talking about because I know I present the information to Dr Moore I present it to the board what what are we talking about it's not an issue and and and just to be clear I agree with you Dr Moore this is that's why it says in good faith yeah yeah okay Dr Jones um this agenda came to us one final thing on this on August 19th I open up and see all the proposals of policy changes in green um that's the first time I saw those policy changes after our discussion in green
141were they were they given to board members earlier than that that's the first time I saw them in green the changes because I called you right away the there was an initial conversation I want to say two months ago um then at the next Workshop there was the actual changes that were highlighted in green if you were to go through and look at the changes that you're discussing now um the majority of them were the same changes that were discussed two weeks majority U not not all right not not all um and there's shifts and changes based on the overall conversation now I I agree typically we don't have this volume of changes based on the conversation um so that that is to reflect on but that motion was made and it didn't pass thank
142you that's fine okay anything else to this item um yeah I would say if you pull up um if you pull up July 22nd Workshop all of the backup items all of these items are there in green um minus the few Corrections from board feedback that were added or taken away as a result anything else on this item no ma'am okay we're going to move to the next one which is 69.1 which is the copy of public participation at board meetings who would like to speak to this item are we on it's uh we're on 01 69.1 um public participation at board meetings got which I find it's interesting that the title says copy anyway okay anyone want to speak to this one I didn't have to much on that one maybe hold on just
143a minute it's kind of the same thing except for putting it into you know sometimes you have policies that are written three different ways but they're same kind of policy that's why all of these were done at the same time because they're all related I actually think that it's ridiculous I said it at our Workshop I think it's ridiculous that we have four different policies saying the same thing particip we really should have just one Madam chair I'm not sure I'm sorry madam chair I'm not sure if this is the one but and it might even been on the speaker's form but they are related somewhat um if someone if a a consent item is moved to action item and they come up and they say I'd like to speak at action is is that
144still okay the consent item move to action and they don't know it you know yeah because we by law we have to allow people to speak to anything we vote I just didn't see that on the speakers I just want to make sure that can't be written against that because that's law thank you we have to allow people to speak to an item that we vote on didn't see that in there I'm good there it's in the for it's on the Forum if you look at the the attach well we're not there yet but if if everybody's done with the participation at the board meeting y okay good then let's go to 0164 notice of meetings I'm fine with that one 24 to 72 we look preferable to 72 but I'm fine with that one
145anyone have a discussion on this that one no I I do have a a recommendation um the only recommendation on the final form are we on the form no oh we are on 0164 copy of notice of meetings okay okay it's a shortened version of everything we've been talking about okay we're good yep all right moving on now to the form I waited for the end for that this is now talking about the speaker form which we have updated I don't know I've been on the board six years we've updated this thing I don't know how many times now so now we have a new update suggestion um anybody like to speak to the items here I would okay um I just have one um suggestion and seems pretty minor for Dr Jacobs on the
146bottom you added a new form or maybe that was me a new form needs to be completed for each item I'm wondering because that was hard hard to see like they go through the whole form and then they see that can we put that on the top somewhere just move it towards somewhere you know this way as they're filling it out it's an easy you know you can read it before you actually fill it out so you have any no I'm good okay I do have a question on the bottom it says any changes to speaker forms must align with board po policies and procedures must be presented to the board as a proposition and must pass with a majority vote does that need to be on the form because that's what we're doing now
147the form is part of the policy so if the form is part of the policy it has to come any changes to it have to come to us for a vote no I know but we have to put that statement on there I think we should this form has been changed just as you mentioned so many times without board uh majority vote it needs to be majority vote not chair vote not a chair I haven't changed it I'm not saying you I'm just saying in general it's changed so many times it cannot be changed with the superintendent saying let's change this it cannot be changed with the chair saying let's change this it needs to come to the vote especially since it is part of policy I I'm fine with that I just didn't know
148if we needed the the comment at the bottom okay um I do have a concern though about uh I see where you Chang the wording on this thank you so that it wasn't confusing to somebody about I can't speak this but or the or or or in other words I can only speak one time but if you read that carefully I think now they can see that you could speak to a couple of items which is fine I think before the way we had it worded it looked like you can only speak to one thing and so I appreciate that the obvious difference between this one and the one that we have now is the word about the comment about speaking to a discussion item discussion items are not something that we vote on so
149it's not by law that we have to have somebody speak to a discussion item however um anytime we are limiting people's uh Free Speech or the opportunity to hear from the public about um something that we might not have really understood you know um I tend to pause now I get where you don't want to have have somebody that just comes up and Grant stands I get that but um you know I I tend to worry a little bit about curbing somebody's First Amendment rights in any way um so that's the only thing I want to say about it I I don't want people to Grant stand but I also want people to be able to speak their mind about whatever they um choose to speak their mind about um something that we might discuss
150that's all mam chair yes um I somewhat agree with that um we had a 4 to1 one vote not too long ago about board member matters and it was brought up first amendments and we can speak what we want to speak so when we say that and use that as a board member which is board approved understood 4 to one then we're saying to someone what you say in discussion isn't important to us it's we're not voting 100% we're not voting but even the discussion might say have one board member say hey that's kind of a good idea or no I don't like it I I'm a little bit fearful saying we can't do that um and I agree with you on the grand standing 100% um but we could have some um citizens come
151up here and say listen this is a topic don't know how you're going to vote but can I say a few things I think that's something we should think about anyone else I I will I don't I've I've said it before I don't completely disagree um I I do believe in any everyone's First Amendment right but we don't allow citizen comment during workshops no one comes to discuss when we have discussion items during workshops discussion items on a board meeting it's the same thing no one knows exactly what we are discussing so what is there to to comment on until we've actually had the discussion um and so that's where that comes from and it's not for me it obviously the law says it is not a mandate for that particular purpose I'll uh yes
152go ahead um so I mean if we go back and look historically over the comments that occurred to these uh discussion items um I think the vast majority of them were pretty overwhelmingly wildly off topic um not related to the conversation um and significantly interfered with business um I think we'd all be happy to have the comments if they were related to the business um but unfortunately somebody ruined it I mean you got to eventually you got to be able to conduct a meeting um and if somebody's going up there to make jokes um and show off and it has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation um it's a sideshow in a circus not a meeting and going back to the camera that's exactly why I don't want the faces on the camera I
153hear that yeah I don't think it changed much though well I don't know tonight we have that so um you know that's part of why I brought that up because it is our business meeting just a thought I mean normally in discussion we would not take any action or formal action or non-formal action but we it might be a clause that you would want to add that if if a vote was taken if somebody made a motion or decided to take an action that then they do get to speak then they do get to speak right okay I'm fine with that good idea yes ma'am we have somebody body from the floor that would like to speak there is one thing that I do would like to add that during your last Workshop a copy
154of the speaker Forum was presented to you in which the discussion um item to indicate your preference to speak to a discussion item was removed however and I take full responsibility for this um up on the more of the narrative or bulleted part um it says on the third bullet person may speak for up to three minutes to each action agenda item during the action agenda and each board member discussion item yeah you got it there so if we are removing that option below to speak to a discussion item then we need to strike that language to be consistent with what is listed below good call or I like what Mr McDonald put forward which is um he's saying that if the discussion item winds up to be a vote then we would allow for
155for um someone to speak so in that case it almost would be like um it's an action item well it would also be like when we have um uh we conduct a separate meeting what do we call that when we stop the meeting we gavel out and we have a sorry public hearing thank you so it's like the public hearing where um anybody can come and speak at that time they don't have to fill out a form could we put something in to that effect where if a discussion item then becomes a vote people don't have to go ahead fill it out a form because they can't read your mind and I think that was part of some people in the past have had a concern about that that I didn't know you're going to
156vote on this right that's not fair I couldn't I couldn't speak to it so if it becomes a vote we're supposed to allow people to speak to it yes I have a question what item did we ever discuss that was immediately voted on there was one um couple months ago what was that I don't remember but I know there was one because somebody was complaining about had they known we were going to vote on it they would have been able to speak and how long we've been board members six years but we are setting a policy so I think to be able to put that into the policy I like that idea Mr McDonald to put it out there and say um treat it like we would um why can't I remember that term because
157I'm tired A2 but I but we can't treat it like that because it's not that if it's an item in the perfect example Mr McDonald is profing an action item that has not been discussed right if you move to vote you have to hear from the public prior to that vote so you would simply say is there anyone from the audience that would like to speak easy and then that but that's already should be that's Robert's Rules no because I think if we put it into the policy if I did that a board member might say you're not allowed to do that um but if we all agree that that's something that we need to hear somebody speaking because we're going to vote on something then that's appropriate am I wrong because you have to
158before you takeing action am I right you are correct yes I don't know that we can so if it's in discussion I'm sorry and we move to vote on it then we're consider discussion it is discussion and I would it is not action it it is not action and think of the limited amount of time you all have to have meaningful conversation um and that's sacred and knowing all of you as well as I do that is sacred to each and every single one of you you want to have the board this meeting to be about the body of work we're responsible for I would encourage you to have unfiltered conversations with each other during that time and during Workshop um and at the end of the day um you collect the information for discussion
159at the dis um sometimes it's provided but it's not required to be provided um I I we want board meetings to be represented a certain way I would I would protect that time and when there will be and there will be it will be the exception based on that discussion and I think it happened tonight Mr Rosario said hey I want to make a motion right now now we've tabled it to the action item but we could have said all right let's have that vote you had the dis you make the motion is there anybody from the public that would like to speak on this item you get your three minutes Kristen goes back to work and she does the the three minute thing and then youve heard from the community and you would have
160the vote I'm not even sure what the vote was on at this point but there's something Constitution um you would have that vote um I don't know that that needs to be captured on on the particular form I I just want to protect the board's time around the discussion and and know whoever the chair is when an action item is called and board members have the priority to say I'm going to make a motion because there's no protocol that's going keep you from making a motion um then you have to hear from the community prior to taking a board decision okay and that's that's actually part of my thought to that idea is that without having some Avenue for public discussion it might hinder the opportunity for a spontaneous motion to come to the floor
161or You' have to postpone for a month before you can act on something that was not necessarily a significant thing but should have some public comment option yes doc so do we need to change or put anything in writing I mean you're not allowed to say that Dr Jacob so I mean I heard what Dr Pusa said I agree everybody agreed and I like Mr McDonald's so do we need to put that anywhere so I will tell you from revising this form and individuals who are accustomed to using this form the fact that we are removing discussion as an option it may behoove us to clearly communicate that if a discussion item is moved to an action item that the public will have an opportunity to provide comment be prior to a vote being taken
162so I have a suggestion then that's simple why don't we just have that comment written or I state it whoever the chair has States it at the beginning of the meeting yeah I think your script currently is not board approved so the difference between your script and the speaker form is the revisions that you all are coming to consensus on that uh board vote needs to take place to change the speaker's form so we need to put it in here you're saying correct if you if you feel it that would be my suggestion because your script can be changed um un very easily unlike the speaker form so why not make it another bullet towards the top it says if an item um is moved from discussion to a vote then speakers at that time
163will be invited to speak sure okay okay everybody okay with that thank you Mr McDonald okay help anything else on the speaker form we're good okay that was our last item on that so now I'm going to restate the item says approval to set public hearing date for the adoption of the revisions to Schoolboard policy 01651 agendas 0164 notice of meetings 0165 meetings 01 69.1 participation at board meetings and the associated speakers form as amended we have any more so I'm asking for a motion then to set the public hearing date could I get a motion so moved second Mr McDonald and the second by Miss Rosario I'm not going to ask for any other discussion I'm just going to ask for a vote all those in favor say I I I anyone opposed passes
1645 Z thank you for the discussion board members okay so we now have two other it items and seeing that those items are new action items that were not on the agenda is there anyone that would like to speak to that but before we do that we need to know what the agenda item is so I'm going to ask the board member that brought that forward to describe what it is and then before board members discuss it and vote on it we're going to invite the public to speak okay so um the first one is policy 2130 Mr McDonald thank you yeah I was this is in response to a noticing that while we we've done a tremendous job in virtually every area this year and a lot to be celebrated one of the items
165that we continue to struggle in which is I think a very important one and a concern for the board and the community uh is Achieve the achievement Gap and the achievement overall of of students who are struggling to uh uh to catch up and keep up with the rest of their their class and um in 2130 we have a uh we have a potential vehicle to that that at one point would step in and and address that process and provide um some input for that towards that goal but it there is no date at which time that would ultimately come into play and so um the purpose of this is to react to those needs of those students uh who require assistance and to help them Reach their potential and proactively focus on closing um
166this persistent achievement Gap and the effect is the current policy initiates an oversight group at an unspecified future date this amendment asks to immediately Implement a committee of the board to UND to undertake the oversight of the achievement Gap and to make recommendations to this and and related student Lear excuse me student learning challenges the amendment would maintain focus upon achievement gap for all sub subgroups and it specifies a committee that would be established with six members uh one member appointed by each of the board members and one member appointed by the superintend attended they would be uh uh one-year appointments with the option to renew for a second year um the policy and related committee would remain in effect for 5 years as it was with the original policy from the time of implementation
167with the option to renew the policy and the committee um by the board and so the motion the ensuing uh uh action item would be to um move this for um 30-day public review so it could be added to um an upcoming board member uh um business meeting for Action okay before I invite the public to speak I I just have one question um why didn't we get this in the workshop today yeah it came up um actually Dr Moore and I discussed it and uh it was under question I was actually hoping to bring it up when we got to discussion but after the written discussions came up um I was going to offer a discussion item but you GED before I could say anything so you talking about during Workshop during Workshop yeah
168we don't do a discussion item during Workshop yeah I was think it's not part of the agenda I was thinking I'd have that opportunity I mean we don't add them unless you do it at the beginning of the workshop with the superintendent yeah okay um all right I I'm going to invite the public to speak it's uh achievement Gap oversite work Group Policy 2130 since this wasn't an item on our agenda is there anyone who wants wants to speak to it Mr Kenny we have three minutes oh thank you um this sounds like something that's probably very good to do um I'm familiar when the achievement Gap policy was initially passed it's to it it brings in the um plain if in a case that's currently being argued before our before a court in Miami
169the deseg order um so until there's unitary status this doesn't go into effect that doesn't make any sense a policy written for some arbitrary date in the future so what you're saying here if I understand it correctly is that hey let's just implement this now and get to work on it let's get citizens involved let's make recommendations to the board um there's six people on this as you said I believe the other one had eight so anything that would come forward out of recommend would be a super majority because 33 tie obviously doesn't do anything and also it sounds to me like um you got twoe up to Max of two years for Citizens I think that's good good to hear because you'll hear various voices in the community um it gives the board the
170ability to start this now Implement now as opposed to like I said that arbitrary date and it's it sounds like it's a very um I I guess I don't know if it's if it's parents or residents but at this point you know if it's either uh or both then you have residents from all over the county participating in this and I just think that's a great idea there's Innovation to be found in a committee like that there's not innovation in uh a committee that is set up with a plain if in the case after there's reaching of unitary status secondly I would say this um shoot it just escaped my head because it's been such a long night I sat through this whole thing on public discussion um it'll come back to me but oh
171this is what I wanted to say when this the the achievement Gap policy was passed it was passed with the uh book committee policy and a third one I don't even remember the name and the reason I don't even remember the name is because the only thing that was discussed in that package of policies which was in August of 2022 was the book committee policy because we wanted to get that correction at the time the book is issue was huge and rules came down to develop book committees and review committees and so that one took everything else but all three were passed 5 because everyone was unanimously behind the book committee the other two weren't discussed I think this should be debated obviously based on its merits as it's presented here here today and even
172on its merits as it was presented back in 2022 thank you very much any other speakers Mr P thank you for bringing this up um Mr McDonald I was actually uh reading the policy why uh uh Thomas was speaking and um yeah so as far as the superintendent achievement Gap workg group um there is not any parents or citizens on that work group currently um the current policy says four members appointed by the IR IRC NAACP three members appointed by the superintendent and one by the school board representative so I think it'll be good um since we're at 60 years with this desegregation order to start maybe bringing in citizens and parents and bring their input sometimes getting an outside look in um may make it better for the school district and look at new
173um opportunities so thank you any other people that would like to speak in this massive audience Miss noted Jacko I just think it's a wonderful idea to um you know some of the state the the stakeholders are the parents and I think in many times they've been disenfranchised and I think this is a wonderful idea especially to have each and each member of the board um choose a person to be on the committee so um and we can look at Best Practices around the state but you know what schools are succeeding in in reading or phonics or whatever they're using uh to elevate our all of our students so it sounds great thank you okay all right so um thank you for presenting the item any discussion Dr Johns um this is a lot to
174take in um didn't have time to really look at it during the meeting uh we have a federal law regarding the equity committee and the work group Dr Mo first of all I want to hear from you as far as following federal law would this be a addition to it how would would it usurp the work group um the equity committee was changed through the work group M Rosario now serves on that committee um and when we say evidence-based recommendation for improvement to the board and you cross out the NAACP I mean I have some issues with that I mean this has been right we've been working hard on this for a while extremely hard I work with Dr um shafty to write the achievement Gap because we had to change some of the wording
175because of state law with Equity so I'm not ready to really talk about this because I have some concerns about Crossing out NAACP does this how does this work with the workg group um I there's a lot of information I'm going to have to read in detail so through the chair I my ability to respond will be limited because I only saw this 30 minutes prior to the workshop um it has not been re reviewed for legal sufficiency um I think this establishes an absolutely awful precedent you've just spent two hours talking about the appropriate amount of notice in having these conversations um so this is being thrown at you um extremely extremely fast and as your superintendent I I can't provide you a a recommendation on approving other than saying you spent about about
176two hours saying one thing and you're profer an item to do the the opposite initial response um there was a significant amount of time and conversation and multiple times over the last two years in regards to this specific policy uh it went through different name changes it went through uh revisions the intent of the policy way back a win in 22 was to provide assurance is to the federal court that when we obtain unitary status that we will not walk away from the work the research is clear the research is clear uh when a district obtains unitary status uh it's within three to five years that it goes back to right where it was before um I I think when you look at the purpose the the the makeup of of the committee um it's
177too much too fast um are there opportunities to improve um the policy probably based on the conversation um but as I work for the board proper I think the most appropriate thing to do is is to put this on a workshop um digest it uh and have meaningful conversation um and there could be I'm sure there could be opportunities to enhance the policy itself um but I can't support this you still have the floor yes yeah Miss shadic May I have your opinion again there's too many things on here that really concern me and I'm looking under board commitment and we why were certain words crossed out disparities Equitable inclusive I know why those were crossed out but I've got a real issue with this on doing something again that the equity committee now called
178the work work group is is is working on and um even though I'm not on that committee anymore I'll certainly follow it um because we as all board members here you know talk about closing the Gap but I've got some real issues especially dealing with our court order federal court order your your concerns or questions or comments um thank you through the chair I would Echo the superintendent's comments in that I I haven't seen this until right this moment um on the Das so I have not had a chance to review it um and it is you know a best practice um in order to provide not not just everybody here on the dis the board members um the opportunity to review things in advance but also we provide our agendas seven days in advance
179for the public there's a few people here from the public still to provide public comment but you know so that public can also be on notice and provide any public comments so I would say that I would Echo that it would make sense to have more opportunity to digest it put it on a workshop prior to taking any action on it I I can't really give a legal opinion on it at this point but I can review it back am thanks okay all right Dr Pas mustb yeah I I mean I would say um changing this policy would be considered a very uh I would say big thing for the community that would require notice and discussion um so we we can't do anything tonight um but but you know I think it's if you
180want to have a discussion about it I think it's uh something that warrants discussion then I think we should put it on a superintendent Workshop uh we should look at it um and then get the public's opinion and and see and see if if there are any changes we want to make and what those would be um I'm I'm going to speak unless Miss fsar wants to you can go okay thank you so um this this is exactly why board members are asked to put things on the agenda 7 days in advance because when it's on the agenda even if it's on a board workshop and something like this was on the board Workshop that would bring people out to the meeting that really care about this and it hits home with a great population
181in our community that we have worked very hard um to get to a point where we're working on unitary status to happen so this is a very sensitive subject for our community it's something that's been um I guess since the 50s that we've been working on this and that that achievement Gap oversight workg group really was our answer to doing what the judge is asking that we have to do and so the judge is saying that right now we have a work group that is that has to come together and that work Group by by the judge's standard has to be a commitment of so many people from one side so many people from the other side that's why that number was there now this is moving forward so it's not what the judge is
182saying we have to do it's what the commitment from this dis was to say to the judge we hear you we're not going to be the the the district that um falls back we're going to be the district that moves forward and so that's why that was written that way and you weren't on the Das before when this was written so you probably don't know the background of that part but the um this part is kind of looking at and it and it was I I will say Doc spearheaded this and she went with a group to really dive into making sure that this didn't Ripple any waves and what we already were doing to move forward with um the lawsuit and so I would not want to do anything halfhazard we need to take
183this very very carefully that's why I asked why it wasn't on the workshop because had it been put on the workshop and somebody had seen that on the agenda they might have come to our workshop and then they might have spoken tonight at citizen input um because of that they didn't get the opportunity to do that now I know you're saying you wanted to vote on it tonight to me an action item and I remember this training when I went to new um board member training an action item that's put on the agenda for that night really is more like an emergency item to me since the 50s this isn't an emergency so it is something that I think we should look at again and obviously we should look at this but I don't think
184it's something I feel comfortable voting on tonight for this okay M Rosario um yeah and putting items on an action agenda the night of has nothing to do with emergency we have every right you can look at page I think it's page 35 section on agenda in the sunshine manual we are not prohibited at all I didn't say you were prohibited I let me finish what I'm saying please I have the floor we are not prohibited at all to add any items to the agenda um and it certainly doesn't say anything about you can you typically should or could add items that are for emergency purposes that's not what it says um now that said um I this is I I read what is here um I think it's fine based on what I read
185uh it I've always had an issue um with and I tried changing this gosh I don't even know maybe a year ago um only because I have an issue with creating a policy based on active litigation and so when this policy was first created it had to be pulled and then re Rewritten um or you know when it was first recommended it had to be pulled and Rewritten um a couple of times actually I I just don't believe that we should have a policy based on litigation I've never I've never believed that at all um I think that we and I've said we should have a policy on the achievement Gap um and allow the superintendent to do that work now but not just for one group of students for everybody everyone every subgroup of
186students um there is a gap somehow or another and he is responsible for ensuring that that Gap closes um so I I I do understand having it vetted for legal sufficiency I do um agree with that I do believe in that I think that it's very important um um but I I don't believe that having this policy written the way that it currently is is going to make any difference in our legal you know in in what is required of us uh for the equity work group the equity work group is separate and apart from this policy the equity work group we are bound to do the work of the desegregation order and everything else by court order no matter what what policy we have written in place I mean all of our policies would
187support the work to uh to you know raise academic achievement and opportunities for students who are black and brown um so I mean I I I don't believe um that this I never did believe that this policy would have made or would have made a difference or uh you know when we went to court I just didn't Dr Moore knows that it's not something um I just didn't didn't think that it was written in a way that's going to make a difference what's going to make a difference is the final outcomes the numbers that show that the act that the achievement has actually that the Gap has actually closed what's going to make a difference is that we actually show the proof in the data that we are hiring uh black and brown teachers uh
188appropriate to the percentage that we we that is required of us in the desegregation order what's going to make a difference is that we actually accomplished all of the things that the desegregation order tells us to accomplish that's the data that's going to make a difference this policy is not going to make that difference um and we can actually create a resolution not a not a proclamation but we can create a resolution that says that we are committed to the work of the desegregation order and we can create anything else I just do not believe this policy again would make make a difference in that way um now that said since we are in discussion um I do like the idea of create establishing an achievement Gap oversight work I'm sorry an achievement Gap oversight
189committee uh the way that I read this it's a general one and correct me if I'm wrong Mr McDonald it seems like it's just a general one that um addresses achievement gaps in student performance overall for all of our students in English language arts mathematics social studies science and for graduation and Dropout rates um it does St say state that the board is committed which isn't very different from what was already in there that the board is committed to measure and maintain high expectations for all students and to eliminate persistent underachievement in the academic performance of individual student subgroups again this is work that we're currently doing anyway um the next item that I see highlighted States achievement gaps which makes sense to take out disparities and put in achievement gaps because that's what the
190policy is it's an achievement Gap policy same thing with the one two the second and the third bullet the fourth bullet States uh monitor data to make recommendations to the board regarding any identified needs for additional resources or human capital to enhance the outcomes that close the overall achievement Gap in each state assessed sub subject that's what we should be doing anyway um and then this last part looks like the achievement Gap oversight committee would be made up of one Indian River resident appointed by each School Board member totaling five and one member appointed by the superintendent the committee will make recommendations on how to best support student subgroups and historically underserved communities in the district um seems fine to me based on that alone and as I read that I'm thinking again this committee
191the way I understand it this committee is not uh replacing the equity work Group which is required of us you're recommending that we have two separate things that we continue the work of the equity work Group which is under a desegregation order requirement and have this separate and apart correct okay and then um the policy duration shall remain in effect for five years from implementation I actually that's one thing that I would say there shouldn't be a policy duration this should be for always I think we should always be doing this work I don't believe that it should be limited to a particular time frame the work group in the original desegregation order the order actually says that we would continue the work um if we were to reach full unitary status and I don't
192have it in front of me if we were to reach full unitary status we are committed we are required to continue that work for 5 years after we reach unitary status um but in this particular case since it's a generic you know since you're recommending a generic achievement Gap oversight committee I don't see why we we would have any duration on that the original there um I will say that um but I do agree in legal sufficiency I do believe that um the attorney would have to you know take a look at it and make sure that it's well vetted that way um so I see you were GNA speak waiting for going to speak and I get my CH well you present the item and then board members discuss it and then like me
193you wait to the end so I'm waiting to the end which I'm doing so um doc you had one more comment yeah I just want to reiterate a couple things here again just seeing this now I think that that's doing a disservice to our board and to our public this is a huge action item huge um public needed to know that we were going to discuss it and we cannot go against we have what we have just said in this meeting I um been a part of this since 2021 and I know the joint plan almost by heart that is a federal court order with 10 components obviously we have partial unitary status on three components we're working very hard on the other ones um again not a member of that committee again but I
194think we're close on a couple others the the fact that and I know this is separate from the work group that you cross out the NAACP is absolutely wrong um this achievement Gap policy was put in and I understand it goes into effect which was cross out here um once the unitary status happens and one of the reasons in in working on this policy with Dr shafty and Dr Moore and and obviously including um getting getting input was that once we do achieve unitary status we won't put it on a shelf I don't know the numbers now now but um those who have achieved unitary status those who have not but there have been um new court law because they just put it on the shelf and they were not looking at the data we've
195got a we've got a huge job in front of us and just is just a left turn that I think it says to the public and to the school board we're just going to change this nobody's here to talk about it and it's absolutely wrong um I have been to court in Miami for two or three times that judge is very very clear on her expectations of the 10 components of the joint plan the 2018 joint plan to me this is doing a tangent to it I agree with Dr PCA saying okay we've got to look at this we just can't throw it out there um this is something we really really must look at and I would like to caution the board if approving this tonight there will be an issue because we have
196not discussed it with our families we have not discussed it with our community and I'm talking right now about gford just going to throw that out there and then cross out the NAACP cross out everything else about the court order document having been fulfilled this is a gotcha we can't do it okay Mr McDonald okay thank you um yeah so it's worth noting and understanding that from a legal standpoint the framework of uh the original uh policy was used um largely to help avoid any kind of legal CH legal issues because it it follows that same legal pattern the so the fact that it was originally an addendum to the desegregation order does not um does not necessarily apply to it at this point because the whole purpose of this action would be to take
197that pending committee or Group whatever at such time when it comes into play take that and put that into play now recognize that there's needs now and that that committee could be doing good work now and up until the time when um uh the order is is rescinded and not only do we not need to make the case that we would continue but we can make the case that we have already T proactively taken steps to be addressing this possibly several years before that uh uh status has changed um so the F so taking changing the words within it to to meet the particular objective at this point in time um does not speak to the desegregation order but rather it speaks to using that kind of framework and using that this as a current
198day tool to pursue that objective um for uh the achievement Gap but for the achievement gap for everyone and have that in place now rather than have it in place sometime in the distant future having having it a proactive tool to be used to accomplish those good things now rather than having an addendum as as a tail to the desegregation desegregation order for the purposes of you know plating or or otherwise making the the judge happy I would think that if this if this process did that job well sometime in the future that it would do it much better now because it would start now okay oh and and and the other thing just so it's not confused this is not a proposal to vote on the the on the you brought it to action
199it is a vote but it's it's a vote to to place it before for public comment so you're asking for a vote to place it to public comment yes because it comment public hearing public hearing yes because it it does deserve and needs that kind of yes it does attention okay so um first of all I have a really hard time with this not being brought to a workshop first then given to our attorney to make sure an attorney does the work not a board member doing the work of writing rewriting policy we keep getting into that and into that and into that and we don't have law degrees so I have a hard time with that I also have a very hard time with um putting lines through um anything referencing then NAACP and
200all the work that's been done on the joint plan I really have a hard time with that I think that sends a really bad message and um is that going to be your legacy is that what you want for your legacy well again the intent is not the intent is to establish something now under the framework that exists it existed but to take that action now not it's not striking out uh the NAACP who we are we continue to be in litigation with it's using that idea and that concept and that framework to proactively and immediately um take some action and do some good things in the community and establish that involvement of the whole community so it's it's it's it's not a it's not a it's not a striking out of them it is
201using that framework to create something productive now can I add something I have a suggest okay um Dr PKA yeah so if I can paraphrase because we're obviously we're hearing about all this this is active conversation um what you're saying is I mean we're not actually doing this yet obviously this is once we get unitary status this work group would then according to this policy come about and it would start doing its job what you're saying is why wait for unitary status let's just start doing the work now mhm um and I I don't know that I can disagree with that sentiment but um I I I do think it warrants going to workshop and doing this the the right way I have a suggestion so I I would actually like to um propose an
202amendment to your motion and the amendment I'd like to propose is that instead of um putting this out for public um to the public first I think that I'd like to propose that we bring this to the next Workshop I agree with that that's that's my proposal to the amendment so I'd like to make a motion to that wait wait I'm sorry uhuh I'm making a motion I'm making a motion to amend his motion did you make a motion yeah he brought he brought up a motion you can comment on motion so this is an amended Amendment to the motion I'm going to um make an amendment that we bring this item to the next Workshop could I get a second okay that dies for a second so now we have the main motion on
203the on the floor you could it be repeated I yes please repeat it you had I did I had a suggestion for you do you want to make an amendment you want to make the suggestion no I want to make the suggest I want to make a comment first okay okay the comment the suggestion that I had and I don't know if you want to to reward your motion or whatever but it doesn't appear that you have consensus um so if you look at our calendar you can give this or you know to to um Miss shat Miss to the superintendent Miss shatak today um they'll have plenty of time to vet it for legal sufficiency bring it back to us with legal feedback on the 9th which is a workshop didn't I just take
204the motion and then um it would come back to us after that workshop and feedback on the 23rd business meeting giving the public time to talk about it you know to giving the public time to have public input that would cover all those boxes in there so I just made that amendment to that motion and it died so now it's gone you made anot you made an amendment for just the workshop alone that's not what I suggested brought I brought it to say bring it back to the next Workshop that means that he meets the attorney meets does all that I didn't need to put all that into the amendment all I asked for is ation my suggestion I I don't know if you I I would offer that Amendment with with the provision to
205to take it to the next workshop with the provision of uh um after that bringing it to the public and posting it on the agenda for the up the following business meeting which is the way it works right okay I'm makeing so you're amending the amendment to the motion correct okay State your Amendment to the amendment to the motion the amendment to the motion is to um is to uh I guess in instead of the motion to come to put it to public to amend it so that this will be um work placed at the next Workshop discussed put into public comment and then added to an agenda to the following business meeting good can I get a second on the motion second discussion please yes go ahead um a lot of things have just
206changed the last minutor do we discuss once a second is done for an amendment for Amendment you can yeah thank you just correct I thought so um but it is late um again just having this before us and now we do an amendment to the amendment to look at this at workshop and policy um and then present it to the public and the public will have a I know I just want to make sure this is legally vetted no matter what we do do but um just in discussion I think we're getting to real Muddy Waters with this uh especially with our work group with the deseg order with a federal court order with being fine-tuned on that joint plan with the judge last time I was there I just think that we are getting
207into some real legal issues and more than anything I just don't think we are you know the workshop public can't speak yes they can speak at public input after we've got it all done I think we're doing this backwards I I disagree with any of the Amendments that's my discussion okay so I'd like to add a discussion part to this too um just so you know that if this comes up to the next workshop and then it's voted on at that business meeting that night um the vote would be to move I know that night would be a business meeting no it isn't okay so then next business meeting whenever it's on the next business meeting the vote wouldn't be to approve it the vote would be to um put it out for a public
208hearing just so you know you'd have to yes okay trying to clarify your Amendment that's of the timing I've been struggling with it I'm trying to clarify your Amendment so you understand the process okay all those in favor say I right Dr no we're good oh okay got a com all those in favor say I think Dr Moore had a comment Dr Moore just you will work shop it September 9th you will send it review and discuss and possibly approve to send it to public hearing at the September board meeting um and if there's sufficient time and there is not uh it would come back for board approval in November okay well wait wait wait correct because there's wait a minute I I have a one thing that you did not include Dr Moore was
209that he wants it vetted before for legal sufficiency before the workshop not it comes to the workshop and then it's vetted for legal sufficiency what was clear is that he wants it vetted for legal sufficiency before the 9th it comes to us with that vetting and recommendation and review on the 9th workshop and then goes to the business meeting so there shouldn't be well if it doesn't pass on the obviously if anything doesn't pass it goes to the next business meeting nothing can pass at a workshop you you would have to approve business meeting business meeting if it doesn't pass at the next business meeting it goes comes goes to the very next business meeting or whatever it passes to go to out to a public to um public notice public notice thank you has
210to go through two business so it can't be voted on for for two months yeah yeah that's what he's trying to explain correct okay it's it's getting late so anything else can I call for the vote go for it as long as we discuss it I'm calling for the vote for the amendment of the Second Amendment to bring it to the workshop like the first amendment but with a comment for the next business meeting after that all those in favor say I I all those opposed say nay n n it passes 32 all right moving on to the last new action item which is I'm sorry you still have to vote on the uh underlying motion oh thank you you're right because that was the Second Amendment so going back to the underlined motion so
211the first the first motion was the original motion would you like to withdraw that motion since we voted on the amendment and and make it as the amended motion yes okay so we can vote on that that it we withdraw it and accept the amended motion correct um yes you can do that okay also if you voted on the motion it would be as amended so okay yeah so as amended all right so um can I get a a motion to vote on the motion as amended I move that okay um a second uh second wait this is we have to vote on the original motion the original motion the original motion is to pass it to to put it to put in the work group as as we adjusted to put it amended as
212amended yes yes yes I'll as amended all those in favor say I I all those opposed say Nay n nay passes three2 all right moving on new action item on the Constitution Mrs Rosario brought this item before um you discuss it Mrs Rosario just say that I uh the motion that you would like to make um I make a motion let me get this together here I make a motion the district place the appropriate disclaimer if needed on the 9917 society constitutional booklets and distribute one booklet to all 8th graders prior to September 11th of 2024 okay so we have anyone that would like to speak to this sorry we have to allow speakers we haven't made yeah motion yet anybody would like to speak yes ma'am please come to the microphone state your name
213[Music] my name is Susie can I guess you can hear me we're not a big room at this point my name is Susie Stoler um I believe in the Constitution I think it's amazingly important and I think all kids should understand it but I believe it's a very complex document and I believe handing every eighth grader a piece of paper with the constitution on it having been a school social worker and a classroom teacher for many many years I can't imagine ime that that would go very far in terms of students reading it I think students need to study the Constitution I think they need to understand it and again I believe it's a very complex document and I think that the district has as part of the curriculum Constitution at that point it seems
214appropriate for students to be given a constitution to be able to become familiar with it and to be able to discuss it and understand it and so um I believe Dr Moore was saying that he wanted to be able to review it and think about it before it was a recommendation and I'd like to support that we leave it in the hands of the superintendent thank you thank you any other speakers um anybody from the audience yes sir Joe LaGuardia um first of all say your name again Joel LaGuardia Joe LaGuardia I've read the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence which is a very different from the document you almost passed without allowing any of us to read at all uh it's it speaks to the wisdom of elections in which people who know this
215community who have lived in this community for a long time who know people who have been invested in shaping public education for a long time are chosen over those who are uh have no WIS no uh longevity with our community it's also important to know that a lot of the policies and decisions that are made here are done so not simply to avoid litigation but because lives are at stake and lives are invested and people are invested especially our neighbors who have worked at some of these policies for a very long time and um I'm very grateful uh that you first of all decided to to put off you know whatever uh policy change you're going to to try to pull over on the county uh against against the wishes of your own superintendent and
216and attorney uh because um you know the blood was boiling back there that we had no access to this document knowing that so many people have put in so much time and uh and and some who have not spent a long time in our c community um have put forth a motion with that said um I've looked at the book because I know as an educator myself that sometimes the Constitution and these little booklets with the Constitution don't just have the constitution in them sometimes they have prefaces and introductions that go off the off the charts and sometimes they can be very ideological and very political so thank you for a copy I looked at it it has simply the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence no prefaces no introductions and I appreciate that and
217for that reason I think that would be great for the school board of support putting that in the hands of eighth graders who who I think are wise enough to read it and to understand it um uh on Constitution Day I think it would be a wonderful um gesture in our community I think it would honor all of our neighbors and uh students to put that in the hands of students uh on that day so I appreciate that um and uh and I appreciate what you all do uh regardless of some of the comments and nays and yay and wo and NOS out there I've been coming for 18 for eight months and it's nice to actually talk about education get through the minutia and with that I would recommend not only putting hands of
218the Constitutions and in students in eighth grade but also perhaps picking up a copy of Robert's Rules of Order I think you all should know that before serving thank you Miss Pippen so this will be the third year that we are attempting to get these free books donated to the schools um like Mr Kenny said previously um Mr Barefoot said that these were political um second time around there was concerns about the QR code um again Thomas Kenny brought this up but if you're flipping through your book when you flip through it's the Constitution and then towards the end there is the Declaration of Independence it's the same thing that our children are taught in 8th grade civics that's why the S 917 Society um does this um this is all they do they don't
219do anything else politically they don't back candidates they don't do anything like that the only thing that they do is um get the money to send these to schools across the country and uh moms for Liberty and many other parental rights organizations are the ones that are just helping these get out because they're based out of Tennessee and not Florida so um in so some stats for um two years ago we were the only School District in Florida that denied these to students last year we were one of two that denied it to students and the other District that denied it was because they already had these going to students um from um defending parental education um it was it was another organization that had already um given the um students out so moms for
220Liberty did not give it to students um but we were again we were the only District that didn't allow um and then all of the uh private Charter and um home school scholing um do take these so we delivered um the past couple of years so they didn't get wasted from IC and Fort Pierce um to again um St Edwards um Master's Academy all of these um schools took them and then the home schools uh co-ops took the remaining that were not donated to the public schools here in Indian River County so four middle schools um the public schools were the only ones that did not receive these so um I urge you to take a look at the QR code you can look at it right now on your phone it's super easy again
221having the print version having the Spanish version um being inclusive um there is nothing with moms for Liberty on this there's nothing with any other organization's information on it yes the ones that you got um do have a sticker in it those were the sample ones um that we have been given out to other school districts um when we donate them they will not have the sticker on the inside again these are I didn't open the boxes that were donated to us yet um with anticipation to be able to donate to them to the public schools um and then again you have my word Dr Moore has my word that again these were samples that we had from last year that we donated to the other Charter Schools that's why it had our information in
222it um but the ones that would be going to the public schools would not have any other information except for what you have in your hand minus the sticker so thank you for your time anyone else see none all right yes Dr Mor the the issue is not the Declaration of of Independence it's not the Constitution um and it's not this board or this staff's um willingness to support um this body of work I think we do it probably better than most if not the absolute best in terms of the plethora of activities and support that we provided um to teach these extremely important documents it is the ignment to policy um policy 97001 which Miss shat can you read the name of that policy we're going to tag team it here uh yes um
223your policy 97.01% and in the B um as Miss Pippen was saying the QR code which was the the issue last year and I am not in a position tonight to tell you what that QR code leads to or what it takes you to um we are your board policy prohibits you from providing information um that is political in in nature um I don't know if it is or if it's not I don't know if the QR code has changed um and that's why simply made the statement as a superintendent Mr Kenny I will meet and discuss with you and give the board every assurance that we adhere to policy Dr Jacobs what information did I leave out I think you covered everything and you're exactly right on it was the QR code that led
224to a number numerous links some of them which included politically um political material so I cannot give the board any assurances that a vote of doing this without reviewing of that QR code uh would allow you to violate your own policy okay yes Dr PCA um i s I think it's interesting that we were the only District I guess that didn't adopt it um I will say though I I think there's a simple fix for this problem let's put a sticker over the QR code and let's let's hand out the books let's move on let's let's uh I I don't I don't like the idea of handing out QR codes to kids because you can change the data that they're going to ultimately go to in fact there's been school districts that had teachers handing
225out uh um safe space type QR codes and it actually turned into uh sex chats between adults and children um so I don't think we should hand out QR codes to kids in general um I I think a real simple fit fixes let's hand out the pocket constitutions let's cover the QR code anyone else yeah I think every board member should um take out your phone and go to the QR code what you will see it's not controversial what you will see is the United States Constitution you will see article one Article 2 article 3 Article 4 article 5 article 6 article 7 you will see amendments 1 through 10 and the Bill of Rights Amendments 11- 27 you will see about the 9917 society no big deal you will see every eighth grader needs
226a personal copy the Declaration of Independence naturalization oath of Allegiance um and that's it there is no other information here so um yeah I if if that is an issue cover the QR code it really doesn't matter but every we shouldn't this is not rocket science we just need to give the kids the Constitution all right so just wait I'm just trying to go home um sorry I can't amend it but amend it to say to to cover the if if there is information in the QR code and I think Dr PCA raes a good point that that code can change or the content behind it changes whenever so we can put our disclaimer on it it that's not good yeah it could change anything okay so anybody else have a comment no well I'm
227I'm looking through the QR code there's a lot of information I I can't get through at all Dr Moore did you just suggest that we wait till we look through this or are we going with what Dr PCA said uncovering it I I'll be I'll be honest if this was left to my own devices I think I would have met with made the exact same Rec I'm not trying to steal your idea um but made the exact same recommendation have the time to put the dis claimer um and this would be done so um it IT addresses without a full on review it IT addresses the concerns not that I have but the concerns of adhering to your policies anyone else no I mean that that makes reasonable sense that obviously the things that the
228QR code links to are not an issue but since there is always that risk technological risk um and I don't I don't think that uh uh Distributing that with the sticker is an issue since they're already putting stickers on them for other schools I think that uh taking that precaution is a wise one and then it would get us over the hump to distribute these yeah um did you say that last year you passed out constitutions to the kids um yes we we did pass out constitutions we we had through Miss B's office they created um ones because at the end of the day the intent was to make sure that they the document was was provided so since we couldn't clear the content within the QR code and I'm talking about last year's not
229not this year's don't know what's in this year's yet um that was the way to provide the information so okay um yeah I'm fine I was thinking of you know exing that out yourself so when you said the sticker I like that even better as long as I can't pull the sticker off um because anytime even with a website people can change it and make it into something that it shouldn't be and and so if that's okay that's you know that's not okay but if if somebody does that on their own that's not our problem but if we're passing them out and that happens now it's our problem so I agree with you I think we we got to be careful what we pass out just like anything else somebody brings to the schools and
230they want to have it passed out you know we got to be careful what anybody is advertising because once we allow that to be passed out to kids that's part of what we're agreeing to and so I'm I'm with you I'm okay with it I want kids to see the Constitution but I agree with you that we need to cover this we will okay so um would you like to amend the motion no why would I amend it to make it so that the QR code is covered he could just do it it says right here that he would apply place the appropriate disclaimer if needed on it so where he places it doesn't matter to me okay your motion is the district places disclaimers needed and distribute to all I'll ReRe it I'll reread
231it it's my motion is I make a motion the district place the appropriate disclaimer if needed on the 9917 society constitutional booklets and distribute one booklet to all eighth graders prior to September 11th 2024 but in my mind uh putting a sticker over is not a disclaimer that is something a little place the appropriate disclaim he's going to put the disclaimer on as the sticker on the I believe it's a stamp correct stamp might be better to block it out so any materials we distribute for within our virtual backpack generally because that's where most of the materials go any Flyers we include a district disclaimer on there so this would be twofold it would be including the district disclaimer and then also adding the sticker over the QR code for the concerns that have been
232stated by board members so that claer is a stamp or a sticker it is we do not have a stamp generally our materials are all ver placed in the virtual backpack so they are electronic so we don't have a stamp so a sticker would have to be created correct look at this team president through the chairs the person donating the material for example we have a a organization that donates kindergarten books they have published that disclaimer in the material so they had the responsibility of distribution does not imply endorsement by the SDC I would prefer the district do it because the district knows exactly what to say it that it's that statement so we widely publicize the disclaimer on our website for any organizations that requests to distribute materials it very clearly says what language
233needs to be on those materials and individuals are asked to add those any materials that they would like the district to distribute because we're not only processing all those materials reviewing all those materials writing letters of approval for those materials and how those materials will be distributed as well so in other words you're saying whoever donates the material needs to put the disclaimer on there okay so it's not so that's why I'm asking you to would you like to amend your motion to say the sticker on there yeah hold on and okay um I have a a parliamentary question uh for Mrs shatak my original motion did not have a second so it didn't essentially pass with a second so do I need to still amend it I don't believe I need to amend it
234I can just State a new motion correct that's correct there was no second on that motion so you could just restate a new motion all right I will restate my motion I make a motion the district place the appropriate disclaimer if needed and cover the QR code with a sticker on the 9917 society constitutional books and distribute one booklet to all 8th grade students prior to September 11th so you're saying the district needs to do the disclaimer not the people donating it like everybody else yeah that's my motion okay second second question uh yes go ahead so what Dr shafty just said and Dr Jacobs just said were it should be the person giving us that um is that in where do where do you read that where is that I'll have to look in
235the policy um it is policy so we've been breaking policy our virtual backpack generally this has to do with virtual backpack but um Dr shafty might be able to talk better to the donated materials um it is 1100 eth graders that we would be asking staff to add all of this so we would need to shift around their responsibilities in order to comply with this request if you are looking at your current policy 9700 point0 1 under the subsection procedures for distribution of materials on school property it does it has a specific uh clause in there that the requestor must first submit the materials with a B CDE E and F to include the district disclaimer must be on the material distributed whether posted in the virtual backpack so it's the physical material or through
236a virtual backpack the current that's how the current policy reads the requestor must submit the materials but here's the thing the request sub the floor right now M Rosario she has the floor because we're in discussion you presented the item so now the other board members could to speak yeah I'm willing to work with this but I don't want to violate policy Dr P anything okay I agree with you if we have a policy why do we keep um breaking our policies just because we can um we work really hard to develop policy and to send it to attorneys and then vote on it and put it out there for everybody to talk about and then we can and a whim break our policy just on the DI I I agree with you if we
237have a policy we just need to I'm okay with doing this I just want to make sure we do it right and follow policy yes sir um since since the donor is here could we query them to see if there's any concern with them being able to provide that do we do that with anybody else you can you can you you have an opportunity you're talking right now now yeah I'm I'm saying since they're here we could confirm with them that that's not a problem and that they could apply the required the desired sticker and disclaimer and confirm that without having to speculate okay is that question Miss Miss Pippen do you want to come and and answer that question that's all you need to say yes or no yes okay you can do it
238okay okay do you want to amend your motion well it didn't yeah we don't yeah you had a second yes we we got a second oh did get a second okay I'll amend my motion um the amended motion is I make a motion the district place the appropriate disclaimer if needed on the 917 Society constitutional booklets the district um sorry let me go back the the the you said you had a stamp correct we do not have a stamp you do not have a stamp it was the electronic we have an we have the language electronically that people add to for the donors to be able to add it on correct and it is required it's not if necessary it's it's required okay gotcha all right so I make a motion that I'm amending my
239first motion I make a motion the district distribute the 9917 society constitutional booklets and distribute distribute that I have to go the take that off I make a motion the district distribute the 9917 society constitutional booklets polic to all 8th graders prior to September 11th 2024 so Dr and those on she's not done go ahead no apart from the motion though those pending distribution to the district with the disclaimer and the sticker okay has to have that on the though right cover your no I mean in your motion you need to add that Dr shafty sorry just to to help you with your motion your current policy says it can be distributed in one of two ways in the virtual backpack or the school Lobby that's the current language in the policy that's not but
240that's not what the mo the motion is for eighth graders so we have an issue there it's not going to go in the lobby if it's going to go to eighth graders if it's going to eighth graders it needs to go to graders it sounds like we need to bring the policy back to talk about I but that's a general donation this is very specific procedures for distribution of materials on school property just a point Dr Moore we could let our eth grade principles know about it and they could come in and get it quickly I have to be honest if you just would have let me work with Jennifer or or Kenny um everybody would have been happy you but you had two years Dr Moore two years that this has been going on
241yes it is and you've already vetted the same material for two years he the information is is different the time frame is different no it isn't uh the length of time yes it is uh the length of time in in order to do it but you all continue to do my job and let me know how it works out okay so I make a motion the district oh I already made my motion should I repeat it nope think we got it is there a second to her amended motion I'll second it uh I please like to have it repeated to make sure it's following policy I make a motion the district distribute the 9917 society constitutional booklets to all 8th graders prior to 7 uh September 11th 2024 breaking policy that's right go ahead D
242well it just said that we distribute to the eighth graders but that's not a policy says I mean I think we can work with that policy to see how we get it to them if it goes in the library Lobby I'm not going to vote something against policy I just think we can do it if it goes in the lobby then immediately know the principal he or she can pick those up and get them to the eighth grade students and we'd be following policy so I have a I have a question for the superintendent are we getting into the weeds here can we just pass pass it and figure it out and you can follow the policy and figure out how to get it to the kids yes I second that is that a motion
243that's a motion all right I mean I I agree with so what I'm asking is I'm going to amend the amended motion U the amendment to the amendment is to um withdraw the part about it has to go in the hands of every eighth grader because that's viola our policy instead follow policy let the superintendent work with them to make sure that our kids get the books that would be a very demure outcome so that's my Amendment to the amendment so we have to vote on I'm asking for a second to the amendment to the amendment I second okay to let me write it down to Amendment okay because we have to go back and vote on all of them I know all right so Amendment to the amendment we have a second me Borg
244and Doc Jones good luck with this one miss Moray okay um we have to vote on the amended Amendment to the motion okay all those in favor say I I I anyone opposed to the amended amended Amendment to the motion opposed okay four it passes 41 so therefore we can go back to the amended motion and vote on that as as amended by the amendment motion all those in favor say I I I I I I passes 5 okay and then on the other one uh the original motion as um that a motion as amended by the amended amended motion all those in favor say I I I I I passes 5 so that means we are have accepted the amended Amendment to the motion which means and I'm going to say that back that
245the superintendent will work with you to make sure we follow board policy to get these out to kids okay I don't know I don't know all right that is our last action agenda item and now we are to um board member matters M Rosario yeah um beginning of school went really well I'm so incredibly pleased um with all of the opening um ceremonies and and and celebrations and multiple School visits um all of the children coming back so cute I just they're just so cute so I'm so grateful um that everyone worked so hard every school that I went to I saw some District staff somewhere somehow or another um and it was just wonderful um so I'm I'm grateful for the opening I know that um with the opening I will say I have
246an issue with um our CWA president speaking at the irca I mean irca sorry um our irca president speaking the way that she did um at the uh Thrive event um I I will just say I think that was completely inappropriate and uncalled for um I don't believe that uh I've spoken with a lot of teachers who have said she does not speak for me so I thought it was very appropriate for um for me to mention that because there's a time and a place for everything and I think that was just not the time in a place um I don't know Dr Moore if you want to talk on that but um you are correct thank you thank you um it was just very inappropriate as everyone was celebrating the successes of our school
247year um we do not we disagree on many things uh the board can agree to disagree on multiple items but not one board member is hateful not one elected official here is hateful towards teachers um and so I I just absolutely completely disagree with that I think that everybody is working extremely hard I think that um this year is going to be the year where all of our schools are going to be in a did you know that I was looking at you was going to be an a um and by the way you didn't touch on the book kiosk or the the book M um oh my gosh what is the vending machine the vending machine you didn't add you needed to add more things to it um I shared with Dr Moore um
248book vending machines which I thought were a fabulous idea and then lo and behold uh was it Citrus beIN Beachin has um the book vending machine which I just love so I would love for all of our schools to be able to have that where kids in the hallway would be able to get a book from the book vending machine like how cool would that be um so I I love that idea I know you said that we're working on it but what Dr Moore does that actually mean by we are working on it that's P right now that's exactly what that means um that is um that particular one was purchased by the PTA and it's a fundraiser that they they that they're they're implementing so um there a proof of concept so some
249of them I've seen some where they they have like this this card kind of like a reward system and the kids can use the card instead of actual money um as credit right they so they they do good things they gain I don't know academic success or whatever it is and then they get this card um I don't know if that is possible but I just wanted to throw that out there as well because I know a lot of students will struggle financially and I don't want to put kids in a position where I want a book but I can't afford it um so I don't know how that that would work but so I'm excited for what is to come and thank you very much Dr Moore for constantly providing um the data on
250where we are um and again I look forward to The Best Is Yet To Come okay Mr McDonald uh yes I also appreciated enjoyed the opportunity in they start a school to visit many of the schools and was surprised to find out that we raised chickens rabbits at our schools but impressed by that as well very wide diversity of things in in Indie River um but I enjoyed it and really excited and hopeful for the upcoming year and I have already congratulated Dr Moore with his um number one status in the state um and uh also in terms of my two committees NE both of them did not meet the last month so I have nothing to report from them as well okay Dr johnes had the opportunity to visit all schools all campuses the
251first week it took about four days they were wonderful saw a great change in the high schools with ID badge dress code looked better um happy with that just a thank you to all of our teachers administrators support staff District team Dr Moore for getting this going on the right foot feel good about this um in the summmer I attended two school supply drives done by our community at Citrus and Dodger toown great support from the community and our Community Partners were at the school so that was cool been to Dodgertown steam now three times I'll probably go in a couple weeks Miss Waller Dr is that furniture in yet I haven't been in okay got to get that furniture okay they're waiting okay so um excited about that uh and that where we're going
252to go with that um vbe um went into a few orientations and Dr boore that hallway and the art and the paint just fabulous just fabulous and um they were done by local groups I'm pretty sure I talked to one or two of them it just looks great um when I was at the TH or the beginning year meeting at ver Beach High School I got into a couple of the um breakouts with the new teachers um and that was with um Terry Beckham and our coaches during the back to school event and they were spot on with their development obviously our fall Athletics and activities have started thank you to our coach band directors Coral directors Club sponsors for giving your time to our students that makes a big difference um thank you today
253our board members um moving the proclamation forward on September 23rd for Dr Hudson um I will get that information um to Dr Mor on following the policy that we need to do um he is a living legend and I I'm sure we'll get this finished um the CWA and irca contracts I know sometimes we just take those for granted but I've been on negotiations before I do not take them for granted that give and take and I think Miss Christa Foley said 57 language changes one little word could take a day so thank you very much and thank you to um our teachers union our CWA support team for um you know working with the district um overall with um I think Dr Mo said we're doing really well in the state we still have
254a long way to go nationally to pay in our teachers but man we want to keep these teachers so we got to keep working on that and and um just I'll say more when I swear um sworn in but um it's an honor and privilege to serve on this board and I look forward to the next four years thank you all right so um gosh I I did a lot of those things too but um the ones I wrote down I'm going to read so I visited every campus um preschool up till last week and um you know I got to see morning entrances at verro Beach High School very first day kids walking through the metal detectors and I don't know we were what half hour behind for getting into school on time and
255I know that it's gotten much improved so that's great I also went up to Sebastian River High School and saw the same thing so I want went to both high schools to watch and they had it down and um it was really impressive to watch day three and all their IDs were on them I didn't see a kid without an ID oh no I take it back we did see some and they pulled them out they had a great way of handling it so um that was great and um I saw a morning entrance at felsmere and wow he's got that down he all those parents know exactly I drove the wrong way cuz I was driving down the street like I was going to go to the school and I was definitely not in
256the right place I was supposed to be so I found out real fast that that's not what you do in the morning so um I went to high five at The Hive and uh Citrus and that was great because it reminded me of what we did down in St lcy County which is the tunnel of Hope for every school where you welcome the kids the first day of school and they're so excited and you're raw and RW and the kids feel like rock stars so it's awesome afternoon pickups I saw Indian River prep they've got it down um those buses not only hi tail it from the high school to the flick they also whip by there as well and take those kids out uh Oslo I've watched afternoon pickups a couple of times the
257first week um but we're we're getting getting better and better and I went back to visit again and um seems to be much better I still have some concerns about um the kids going through the park and stuff so we'll work on that and then Storm Grove of course uh uh not only did I get to see the afternoon pickup but got to hold a sign and screen for the kids so that was cool uh got to see teaching and learning on lots of Campus walks Vero Beach High School Sebastian River Middle School man that was really great uh what I loved is people don't have a problem coming up and telling me about and what my first concern when I walk on the campus is security and they have no problem telling me and
258I got to tell you when I told the superintendent about a couple of the concerns that I have um it got fixed immediately and so I appreciate that like the peole in the back of the um cafeteria door so somebody can see when a vendor is coming to the back door and that got um changed immediately so thank you for that Sebastian Elementary oh I was there when they were trying to do their first fire drill that was cute um Pelican Island seems to be doing really well they're excited about all the changes they've got ahead of them Sebastian River High School went back to that and got to hold signs then Treasure Coast Elementary very quiet there in Liberty on the second day of school I think it was and it was extremely quiet
259which was really nice things were just purring right along gford Middle School got to visit there last week week and um saw the stuff that's going on with the Steam and everything else and and that's purring got to see Beach's new pre yes and um on their first day I did go in there miss flood but I went in the afternoon and they were sleeping so it was really cute and Rosewood um things are moving well except for when I was there they had all the temporary air conditioners going and they were a little loud in the rooms so I know that's a temporary hopeful fix temporary okay um and then vbe uh that entrance way is amazing oh yeah amazing Glendale chickens chickens um they're doing great job there with their a program and
260then aola uh things are purring there I've been there a couple times um had some safety concerns about some things and mentioned that to the superintendent so hopefully we're on that about like one piece of equipment that kindergarteners are consistently breaking things like limbs so we need to be careful with there uh Dodger town uh got to see Steam Park I'm I'm going back to steam park again of course cuz I got to and then the flick I went preschool we looked at um we actually had somebody come and do a uh TV article about um The Vape detector so I'm curious how that's going Indian River Academy I went there because of a Facebook post um I went there pretty early on because somebody had posted on Facebook post about the Teachers Lounge in
261the disarray and that wasn't acceptable to me the superintendent I called him on a Saturday night when I was in Miami um by Monday morning when I met with the PTA president there was somebody from the district office saying we can fix this so I appreciate that and they did I have a picture so I have a before picture and after picture it looks beautiful thank you um and then I went to abaso during their code red drill and they did a really really great job you would have been really proud of them and um they were on it I happened to walk in right as they were beginning it so I got to be in the in in the building when that happened uh sign waving was a great idea I'm hoping we do
262that again not maybe in the heat oh a winter thing yes so maybe at the other schools just to kind of remind them all year long that we're not excited that school started and then we don't if we forget that we're excited about school so that was great I also attended the fsba East regional meeting Orlando I discussed two safety items I brought up to today's Workshop one is them safe schools for Alex if you don't know what that is please go on the website safeschools for al.org it is um started by a parent from U Marjorie Sten Douglas that lost their child and um it just brings all this information and data together and it has some other things on there too like band lessons and things for kids because he was a band
263student um attended the cross country parent meeting at ver Beach High School because I needed to and um those parents were pretty hot under the color about changes in their coaches but I haven't heard anything since so I'm thinking that that's going pretty well but I can't wait to go to their first um meet it's this Saturday uh we call it a meet still for cross country I'm not sure um so I'm hoping that that's going well met sorry it's going okay good and then um I'm on the fsba leadership for the state and um there's a formation of committees going on right now so if you requested to be on a committee you should be finding out this week and uh zoning and planning so I rushed back from the meeting in Orlando to
264get back to the zoning and planning meeting and because of traffic in Orlando I missed the meeting by 12 minutes as I was walking up to the meeting they were all walking out they were done I like meetings they're very short and sweet and then ver Beach High School's Media Center beautiful except for we're still missing some stuff we have you know what we're missing shelves and what there's a big item we're missing in there wait a minute I was there a lot of items like thousands of them oh me books the books well the shelves so we need books back in the media center um and then congratulations on getting the contract signed people don't realize other districts are in impass and if you don't know what that means watch a district meeting that
265has impass it's ugly I remember one of the first things I had to do when I was taking working on my M's for um educational law was I had to go to an impass meeting and I I it was like an Awakening I never realized adults could speak like that um because it it just got ugly and so we're very thankful that it's not ugly it's it's going very smoothly so I appreciate that thank you so much for everybody getting that done superintendent closing enjoy your evening thank you with that we are closing the meeting at 9:54 we made it before 10