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NISD Board Meeting 12-9-2025

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northsideisd
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2025-12-10
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23,588 words · about 132 min
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2026-06-29

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001Please stand as Trustee Harl leads us in the invocation and pledges of allegiance. Please bow your heads. Almighty and merciful God, we ask your guidance and blessings upon this board, our students, parents, patrons, teachers, and administrators as we are assembled here this evening in the common pursuit of this great nation's wealth, our children. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Honor the Texas flag. We pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state, under God, one and indivisible. The time is now 6.03 and the meeting will now be officially called to order. Good evening and welcome to this regular meeting of the Northside Board of Trustees. Before we call the first agenda

002item, the board would like to take just a moment to briefly review some of the rules for conducting our meeting. The order of business for this meeting is set out in our agenda. One item that you may notice is the consent agenda. It includes items that are considered routine and recurring of nature and they're all listed under consent agenda and will be acted upon in one motion. If there's an item on that agenda that anyone would like to address, please sign up to speak to that item. Thank you. And we will pull it for consent motion and discuss it separately. The purpose of this meeting is to conduct board business and for that reason it is held in public. It is not a public forum. However, we do provide opportunity for audience participation. If anyone

003is wishing to address the board regarding citizens to be heard agenda items, please complete the sign-up sheet prior to the start of this meeting. And if there's anyone that would like to address the board during an agenda item, we do ask that you please sign up and indicate what agenda item you'd like to address. The sign-up sheets are located at the entrance to the room so we don't overlook anyone that would like to speak to the board. We will review the rules for addressing the board later in the meeting. Is there anyone here that would like to sign up for an agenda item or citizens to be heard and has not already done so? Okay. Before we begin, I would like to turn it over to Dr. Kraft. He's going to introduce a special performance.

004Yeah. Good evening. Happy holidays and Merry Christmas. We felt like that it would appropriate at this point in the year to welcome the very best dressed in the room to my right. This is none other than Bear Harmony under the direction of Mr. Jimmy Garrett. And I think that they would like to share some holiday spirit with you all before we kick things off. And again, thank you to our students. We know, like I say, this is a time of year where you're preparing for your semester exams and have a lot of things going on. And we're so appreciative of you, Mr. Garrett, for spending just a little bit of time with us and really helping us to get into the holiday spirit. So without further ado, I'll turn it over to Mr. Garrett. Before

005a job I wouldn't even long for. All I want for Christmas is a rock and roll electric guitar. And then away when Rudolph isn't like a shooting star. Santa's gotta make it to town. Santa make him hurry, tell him he can take the freeway down. Doctors don't breathe in like a merry-go-round. Do a thorough check, what would please you most again? Run Rudolph, run, run. Santa's gotta make it to town. Santa make him hurry, tell him he can take the freeway down. Like a merry-go-round. Run Rudolph, run. Santa's gotta make it to town. Run Rudolph, run, run. Santa make him hurry, tell him he can take the freeway down. Run Rudolph, run, run. Rudolph goes all grittin' like a merry-go-round. Run Rudolph, run, run. Run Rudolph, run, run. Of course you did. That's so sweet.

006Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, doctor. Happy birthday. That was worth having a birthday. Thank you so much. Beautiful. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you guys for coming, and we hope you have a restful holiday season. And Feliz Navidad. Thank you so much. Yeah, one more round of applause. Thank you guys so much. Thanks for being here. Thank you, guys. Yep. All right, so we're going to move now to our meeting. I'm sorry. It's just we can't stand it. I'm sorry. It's going to be hard to compete. I know. They're amazing. Hard to follow. I'll try, but it's going to be really hard. We're going to go ahead and move on to our first agenda item for the CPS Energy Check presentation. Let's get another one. Yeah. Another one. Yeah. This will be close, maybe.

007Good evening, Madam President, members of the board, Dr. Kraft. So today I'm here to present an award or a check that we're getting from CPS. I have a couple members from my team that I'd like to introduce. I got Mr. Enrique Jimenez, who's our Executive Director of Construction and Engineering. He oversees the Energy Management Department. Then to his left is Mr. Mike Franco, who is our Energy Management Coordinator. And he is. He's the manager for that department that plays a vital role in conserving energy, but also he is the one that schedules all these after hours events to make sure we have air conditioning, heating, lights, etc. So literally, he's receiving hundreds and hundreds of requests on a daily basis, him and his team. And then lastly, I got Mr. Olivares, who's carrying a big

008cardboard check in front of him. And he is our client liaison with CPS. He's been a valuable partner. We can count on him when there's needs on the CPS side. So we're thankful. We're thankful for the relationship there. So Northside has had a long-standing relationship and partnership with CPS and has been a part of several initiatives over the years to include equipment rebates and demand response. This evening, the district will be presented with a big check by CPS for the rebate efforts in the Energy Management Department and for the district's participation in the demand response program. Demand response is a voluntary program that not only helps. The San Antonio electrical grid, but also helps ERCOT, which is our Texas grid. It is important to know that the district has participated in this program for many

009years and has curtailed energy on a routine basis. Last year, 2024, the district was able to curtail energy by an average of 6,400 kilowatts, netting the district a $336,000 check. That was based off of 20. The district has also been able to curtail energy by $10,000. However, this is a year in which we have had fewer events, called events, out of the 25 that we are contracted with CPS for. This summer, however, although it was a milder summer than the prior year, thus reducing the amount of events, we only had 19 instead of 20 out of the 25. But we were able to curtail 8,100 kilowatts. So increase surpassed our previous year goal, and we had actually less events called. So with that being said, tonight, Mr. Robert Olivares, our key accounts manager with CPS,

010has been able to curtail 80,100 kilowatts. So increase surpassed our previous year goal, and we had actually less events called. So with that being said, tonight, Mr. Robert Olivares, our key accounts manager with CPS, has been able to curtail 80,100 kilowatts. here to present a check totaling $688,991. So of that total $389,797 is equated to the participation and demand response and the remaining almost $300,299.194 is based off of rebates collected by the district on all these construction projects that we're doing by putting energy efficient equipment into our schools. So with that, I would ask the board to come down and take a picture as we invite Mr. Olivares to make any last minute remarks. Like Jacob said, you know, they've been longstanding partners with CPS Energy. We appreciate the participation. The numbers he threw out

011there, the 89 kilowatt hours equates to about $688,991.194.194. 8.9 megawatts, right? The program as a whole has about 100 megawatts enrolled. So y'all are actually at like 8%, 9% of the total input. So that is just huge appreciation. Thank you very much. Looking forward to next year. And we're going to go ahead and close the meeting. Thank you so much. So now we're going to move on to our second item on the agenda with our superintendent's report. Yes, ma'am. Madam President, members of the board, happy holidays. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Merry Christmas. It's hard to believe, but not only are we closing in on 15 days from Christmas, which is really hard to believe, but this is

012also the last scheduled board meeting for 2025, which is very difficult to wrap my mind around. Before we begin, I'd like to introduce Libby, Jillian, Zara, and Weta. Would you guys like to come to the podium real quick and just introduce yourself? These are four of our student ambassadors, and again, we appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedules, particularly this busy time of the year, and again, appreciate all you are doing to really help spread the NISD story. So, welcome, and thank you guys for being here. If y'all would just like to introduce yourself real quick. This is part of the training module. I'm Weta. I go to Health Careers High School, and it's been like, it's my first year being an ambassador, and going to all these events, I've just been seeing

013like how much effort Northside puts into like every single like activity we've been doing, and it's been so much fun like hanging out with like younger kids and like seeing it, because I went to elementary school like at McDermott, and I just remember how much fun that being and like seeing that like happen to them too was just like a really good experience, and I get to be a part of that. It was really nice. Yay. I love it. Hi, I'm Libby Hibbets. I go to O'Connor, but I'm part of the Ag program, so I'm under ASTA. This is my first year being an ambassador, and I like seeing kind of the behind the scenes of everything that y'all do at Northside. Hi, I'm Zahra Nazir. I'm a junior at Brandeis High School, and this

014is also my first year being an ambassador, and I've had a great time this year just seeing how everyone works so hard at this district, and I really appreciate all of you guys. Thank you. Hi, I'm Jillian. I am a senior at Clark High School. This is my second year as a student ambassador, and I really enjoy it. Thank you guys. Thanks for being here. Thank you all. So there are a lot of things going on. You're probably seeing your calendar peeing particularly about this time of day every day. We have just numerous fine arts celebrations to include dance spectaculars all the way through this weekend, choir concerts, orchestra concerts, and like I say, a lot of exciting things. It's also hard to believe, but, actually, Boys and Girls District Basketball has begun. In fact,

015the boys are kicking off this evening. Hope you're enjoying the cooler temperatures. I know that yesterday morning at Fair Oaks Country Club, Brandeis High School hosted their annual golf tournament, which is actually one of the largest golf tournaments in the state of Texas. We had over 200 golfers competing from really across the region. It's a benefit, but in cooperation or coordination with the Marine Corps or a Toys for Tots drive, and so it was great to kick things off and celebrate with many of our student golfers yesterday. Also had the opportunity to visit Valley High today. They had a really cool activity going on in the library with dreidels. They were learning about the festivities associated with Hanukkah, and it was a math activity. So it was really, really a fun time to visit with

016Mr. Morris and, like I say, the Woodchucks at Valley High. They do phenomenal, phenomenal work. I'm looking forward to visiting Wonky Friday. I've had the opportunity to visit their ALE program, but also had the opportunity to read. So really looking forward to that opportunity, as well as Robba Elementary. They'll be celebrating next week, as you're well aware, the 25th anniversary. And I believe that celebration is on Tuesday. Tuesday. Okay. Okay. Next Tuesday. No board meeting, but we will have a 25th anniversary at Robba Elementary School. Also, esports, our esports championship is already upon us. It will be held at the Northside Activity Center this weekend on Saturday. And so, like I say, really looking forward to that special, special event. Also, just to mark your calendars, we'll be having mid-year graduation on February 11th. So

017as we've announced graduation dates, I think we're going to be having a little bit of a break. I think we previewed it with actually one of our student voice or both of our student voice groups. And we felt like, okay, we better publish the graduation dates pretty quickly. So again, 28 through the 31st this year. So we're graduating a little bit early. I mentioned the cooler weather. I will tell you that from firsthand experience, it's not as cool in South Central Texas as it is in New York City. It was about as cold as I can recall, but had a really, really inspiring visit with the College Board. I think I've mentioned. I had the opportunity to serve on that, that committee and it was interesting to hear from California, from Indiana, from Florida, from

018New York, a lot of the same or very similar challenges in and around school finance and some of the other challenges that we're experiencing. But what was inspiring is I really believe that the College Board is making it possible for us to be able to do that at all times, no matter whether we're potentially attending college or maybe we're doing something else. And I'm really happy that it's been such a great experience and thank you for being here. Thank you for joining us. We'll see you in a few making a very concerted effort to kind of right set a conversation in and around what is AP, advanced placement, who is it for? And it's really for all students. And they're really working on this message of inclusivity, which again, was really very, very inspiring. A

019few of the initiatives, and this is part of the benefit to serve on that board. There are two innovative courses forthcoming. And these are really pertaining to the expansion of coursework as it relates to CTE programming. The first that we're already well underway in planning is a AP cybersecurity course. The second being a business and personal finance course. And so like I say, Dr. Woods and his team are really working on this. And I think it's really important that we team are already working to, like I say, plan for implementation next year. One of the benefits is these courses, along with any new courses, which they're going to aggressively expand, particularly in emerging technology strands, is the training will be provided to our teachers for free. And so they recognize, the staff recognizes the financial

020crunch. Another piece that was really, really intriguing, and this has been an area that I've expressed the need to really work on the discourse, and that is really partnering with institutions of higher education. I've had the opportunity to really explain how we go about stacking and how we provide not only AP coursework, but in many cases, doubling up with dual credit. And so they've actually committed to establishing a committee of higher education. And so they've actually committed to establishing a committee of higher education. And so they've actually committed to establishing a committee of higher education. staff to really merge and forge a much stronger relationship with, like I say, the institutions of higher education. One of the things that I'm also pretty excited about, which it took a little bit of arm twisting, what they've

021committed to is there's a counselor credentialing program that has been in a pilot phase or they're prepared to release as a pilot phase, will be the recipient of this. And there are seven modules, in essence, it's a training, online training, that really provides counselors an in-depth vantage of who AP is really for, and then furthermore, how to counsel students, particularly students that may not have the confidence in regards to their level of academia, that they can be successful. And so I'm looking forward to sharing that, of course, with our district counselors. I didn't really, that nationwide the turnover in high school counseling is actually less than three years. So this is a program like say that we're pretty excited about. So again outside of the really really cold temperatures it was a great great event.

022Tomorrow we'll be partnering with the San Antonio Food Bank once again at the activity center we'll be hosting community-wide food drive to help like say families in need particularly as we approach this holiday season. And then finally I know that we've been tracking the potential for the City Council of San Antonio to move to a general election and I apologize we didn't have the opportunity to place this on the agenda it was obviously a pretty short notice as you've been tracking and following. We've been in communication with many... The council members, as well as Julia Grisard with Bexar County Education Coalition. And I know several of you have been engaged as well. Ms. Freeman attending the town hall. Thank you for that. So we're tracking it very, very closely. Our message has really been up

023to this point is that if we move to or if the council moves to a general election date in November, we maintain a obviously 2027, 2029, most recent upcoming elections. There will be additional costs. In fact, we've pulled election costs. Megan has worked pretty diligently as to what would this cost if we were to have to do per se. On our own. And it would be expensive. It would be a heavy lift. In fact, we would anticipate somewhere in and around, depending on the polling sites, that we would provide 800,000 to probably upwards of a million or a million dollars plus. So all that being said, I know that Julia is going to present on behalf of the seven school districts that currently have a May election. And articulating the concerns. Again, with the with

024the associated cost. I had a conversation, a couple of conversations actually earlier today that from my lens, I'm trying to equate these additional costs in terms of teaching allocations. And so when you start thinking about that number that, again, obviously right now we don't have budgeted for simply because in the last two elections, we pulled those election costs. And so when you start thinking about that number that, again, obviously right now we don't have budgeted for simply because in the last two elections, we pulled those election costs. And so when you start thinking about that number that, again, obviously right now we don't have budgeted for simply because in the last two elections, we pulled those election costs. Just to kind of give you an idea. And our share has been anywhere from ninety two

025thousand dollars to one hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars. And again, a lot of it is is just logistics and polling costs. If you kind of think about multiplying that by eight or nine, you know, that's 15 to 20 teaching allocations. And that's that's how I'm trying to equate it as to the impact financially. So all that being said. Tomorrow, there will be obviously a council meeting. Julia will be presenting on behalf of the school districts to include Northside at two o'clock in session B. There's not an anticipated vote until next week. And so, like I say, we've had the opportunity to express our concerns. Council and Galvan is with us today. Thank you for, like I say, your ear and being willing to have that conversation. Along with Miss Gonzalez, Councilman Gonzalez. Thank you.

026And like I say, we're going to be working diligently and following, expressing, like I say, some of the financial concerns. And like I say, being a good partner. But again, there are there are some associated concerns, especially if we don't move to a general election. If we were to move to a general election. There are several concerns. Several logistics that we have some runway, but we would need to really think through and put in place one policy. We'd have to address policy. We'd have to look at probably the holdover doctrine, which I know many of you have had experience and have looked at as a result of a trustee vacancy. And then, of course, terms that would definitely change terms, seeing that if we were to move to a November election. So a lot to.

027Consume a very short amount of time, but we're working it. And so that being said, like I say, we're looking forward to the next week and a half of a very busy end of the first semester, but also an exciting time as we celebrate this wonderful Christmas and holiday season. And that really concludes my report pending any questions. And I know I say council members. Thank you guys so much. Thank you so much for, I say, being here and helping with your support. I would try to answer any questions. Mrs. Freeman. Sorry. Yes. I was able to attend the mayor's meeting downtown and then councilman or council woman. Govito had a town hall yesterday. And I know I've sent a couple of things to you that I've learned from that. But would you entertain like

028if if any of us we can't discuss that here tonight. But if we have any questions and specifically pertaining to this possible action that could happen, would you entertain questions from us so we could just send them to you? Yeah, please. Absolutely. Like I say, the the primary driver or concern as we look at this. And again, it's potential action by the council. It is really the financial concern. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know there are probably others, particularly with the logistics of just hosting an election on our own. So, yeah, please do. And the ability of actually being able to perhaps talk to the council as a whole and have that conversation because we haven't been able to have that discussion. Yeah, that's exactly right. And that's really been my

029primary conversation outside of the financial aspect or really concern is, you know, we just we haven't had a lot. We haven't had a lot of time to really kind of digest and think through all of the implications. And again, I think that in many cases, it's sometimes pertinent just to step back, analyze what is the challenge or the issue at hand. What are we trying to solve or fix? And is there the opportunity to maybe delay so that we can really think through any and all implications in making a significant change? Yeah. Mr. Blount. Yeah. And I was just going to add again. I know we can't discuss, but, you know, just historically, again, we've sort of had those conversations through the years and looking at November versus May time period. So there's some things

030we can discuss as a whole board if we can have those conversations beyond financial that present a challenge to us. And I think the other thing that helps with it really also encourages hopefully we'll get back to this, too. We're used to meet as board of trustees with our city council and mayor and others, too. That way, we can have those type of conversations on this and other type of business. Bigger issues like that. Yeah. And I think that's a great idea. I think there are definitely pertinent joint efforts. I know that, like I say, Councilman Gouvin, we're having a committee, education committee meeting tomorrow at City Hall at 10 o'clock. Thank you again for allowing me to attend and participate as you see fit. So I agree. I think that we're in this together.

031We're working for our students and our community together. Hand in hand. So it's a great point. Thank you. All right. So now we're going to go ahead and move on. Thank you, Dr. Kraft. To our board members' reports. Do we have anyone that would like to say something? All right. Dr. Hasso. Okay. When did we last meet? So since our last meeting, I have had the pleasure to attend the Warren High School Elementary Honors Choir. Also got the privilege of going. I got to go to the East Sports Qualifiers, which was very intense. Amazing. Got to make it to my home owners association meeting, Crown Meadows. Also made it to the Fall Clinic Teacher Celebration, which was an amazing event. Really getting to see new and future teachers and their excitement. Bernard Middle School, second

032annual multicultural evening. Literacy Under the Lights. Carlos Coons Elementary Career Day. Lots of questions. Also, I was invited to the 25th Annual Winter Dinner for Lindsay Place and Druggers Elementary. NEF's Donor Night and TAP's High School's rendition of Once on this Island. I know Laura will probably touch on this a little bit more, but there were moments that we seriously forgot that we were at a high school. Yeah, TAP did. It was to another. It was to another level. It was amazing. The talent here at Northside is beyond compare. And then last, I was able to, on December 4th, was able to participate with a nonprofit. Northside AFT invited me to go do a volunteer activity with Snack Packs for Kids Essay. They provide snacks to 12 NISD schools, about 500 NISD students every week.

033They provide snacks. They provide enough snacks based on the needs of the school. So if the counselor or someone in community in schools sees that a student is coming in on Monday and they're looking like they may be having extra lunches or needing additional food, they're able to provide them snacks to be able to go and take home and be able to have additional snacks over the weekend. And so they did mention on their site it's $20 provides a snack for one. I won NISD student for a full month. Once 175 supports a student for the entire year. They are always looking for donations and grant funding and matching. But just when they do more than 4000 students serving across Bexar County and just smallest little volunteer activity. I think it took us an hour.

034And all we did was really help these two ridiculously strong ladies who had the truck already set up and carried. And we did a lot of work to get them to the school. And we did a lot of work to get them to the school. And we did a lot of work to get them to the school. Because once they're at the school, then the school takes care of them and takes them inside. But I mean, definitely a great organization that's doing a lot for Northside, doing a lot for San Antonio and just wanted to highlight them because I feel like what they're doing is very much an additional need that's needed here in our city. So thank you. Thank you. Anybody else? Dr. Sarpata. Yes. Same thing. I went to the Warren Honor Choir,

035just an amazing group of students out there and how much that program has grown. Esports. That top presentation of Once on this Island was phenomenal. It was just I was in awe. I got to meet Mr. Hernandez out there. And it was just Amanda Pyle does. She has an amazing she has just did an amazing job with that program. And it's it's it was incredible. They just you have to go. I mean, you have to see it. Also, I want to just, you know, I know it's time for semester exams. You know, I know ambassadors, you guys think we have one more week. So just want to wish all the students out there, the teachers I know, ready for some much needed time off. I know, ready for some much needed time off. I know,

036ready for some much needed time off. I know, ready for some much needed time off. I think we all are. And the holiday seasons. And I just want to say when Dr. Faye sent us a schedule of all the things that are going on in our district just around this time, there was, like, three pages. And I think of again, I lean back on these teachers that are sponsors, coaches, coordinators, choir, theater, mariachis, orchestra, band, dance. I'm proud of them. Yeah. dance, cheer, ambassadors, all these teachers that lead our students every day. It's not just in the classroom. And it's important to remember that because the holiday season, it's our time off, but we still have teachers working. We still have teachers that are out there supporting our students. So again, I know the teachers

037are ready for some much needed time off. But again, I also want to shout out to Ms. Elizabeth Sanchez-Lopez, just the amazing job that you do throughout the whole district. I mean, just you get everything organized. And every time I go somewhere, you're always out there. So you're always supporting and being out there as well. Is she here? She was. Tell her to watch the video. She's probably at another event, I'm sure. So thank you, yes, to the Britain Choir. But just it's just amazing just to see it. And it's that's what we do. And that's why we do it. So when I see the ambassadors here, when we hear the choir and theater and mariachis, and just the kids are just that's what they do. They're shining. And that's why we are up here

038doing what we do. So just thank you, teachers, sponsors, everybody that's out here. Another group that I think that goes unrecognized, and I want to recognize them is... Dr. Kraft, of course, for leading our district, but also his cabinet. And I think it also goes unrecognized, right? You guys are always doing the behind the scenes grunt work, and you're getting the information that we need, getting us ready. But more importantly, you're going back with our principals and our staff and preparing them and getting them ready. So I would like to give Dr. Kraft and his cabinet a round of applause and just thank you. Thank you for what you guys do. Yes. So and I'm very fortunate. And it's only been a few months that I've been up here, but just working with you guys.

039And I'm looking forward to 2026. So thank you for what y'all do. We I, I appreciate it. And I know what it takes to be behind the scenes and doing that and doing that work. And, and it's not always, you know, fun. But it's important. And I thank you for that. So that's all I have. Thank you, Dr. Harl. Well, I think Laura for saying that. That was well said, Laura. Happy holidays to everybody. I'm going to tie a couple things together today. I did prize prize patrol. And I'm going to tie it with the donor, the NEFT donor event that we did the other night. We honored three donors, and Chris, you're going to have to help me out with the one, JLA Communications, right? They were honored, Cavender Cares, and then KDNC. and

040Jim Reed, among other donors that came that night. It was very, very special. The theme was Unsung Heroes, and truly these people give lots of money to our kids. But to see today, I wish they could join us when we do prize patrols, and some of them do, because the kids were like so elated that their teachers got these awards. And this one little kid, I'm going to post it, but he's going, hey, Apple boy, what are you doing? Ma'am, why is that Apple boy here? I mean, just the priceless things the kids say when it was Apple Eddie joined us to give like $4,000 to a teacher. This was at Katie Reed Elementary and then Callison Elementary. But a teacher who wants to buy. More instruments for their kids so the kids don't have

041to wait. That's great problems to have, like more and more kids want instruments and want to make music. And the one at Callison wanted more money for sensory bins to help kids with self-regulation. And so I stole all her stuff she was going to put in sensory bins. So it was rewarding. But the pride that the whole school feels. It was the pride that the whole school feels when something like that happens. But the donor appreciation. Oh, my gosh. The Brandeis Broncaroos. I don't. It's a choir that shows up at. Zero hour. They show up at zero hour. They come before school. Like they couldn't fit it in their schedule. So they're rehearsing. They were phenomenal. But they were called something clever. Broncaronies. I don't know. But it was real cute. And then the Stevens.

042Jazz Band was phenomenal outside. They, you know, forwarded through the cold, but it was great. And so thanks to NEF for making that happen and people on the NEF board and those of you who are at campuses that encourage your teachers to write for grants so that we go to a zero balance is my quest. And Sonia, thanks for coming. And Karen, it was good to see Katie Reed there. And hear her accept an award for another way that she keeps giving to our district. I got to hear Ellison Choir today, which was really, really neat. And those little guys seeing their hearts out, they're aspiring actors. So, you know, they're like mimicking their choir teacher. It was just, I just get lost in what the kids do. The fall, Sonia. Brought up the fall

043clinical teachers. It was a great celebration. Thanks to the mentor teachers. I don't think they get paid to be mentors, do they? They do it out of the goodness of their hearts. Okay, good. Red wagon? I sort of see it's not much. A little bit. I don't know. It's enough for their coffee. It probably buys a bunch of Diet Coke and that's it. You know, maybe coffee at Starbucks. But they're unsung heroes, too. Like our teachers. They're not going to stay in our district because they're paired with such incredible mentor teachers. So thank you for that. And Sierra Clinic, Cavender Cares, I said, right? Oh, February 12th, trustees. So I did my due diligence and I wish I could say some of you owe me, but I sat for two and a half hours and

044listened very politely as our commissioner presented about reading. And our commissioner is now an expert at reading. So I'm going to give you a little bit of time to read. Okay. So I'm going to give you a little bit of time to read. And so I took a lot of notes because I thought I was and I guess I have a lot to learn. But anyway, I did take a lot of notes on HQIM and Blue Bonnet. And so he's going to give us the PowerPoint and I'll share it with staff and I'll share it with you all. The other board of directors had lots of good questions. Some of the board of directors are not going to be with us anymore because they have takeovers. And so that was. That was kind of an

045interesting, uncomfortable moment. But we have a new board of director that some of you may know, Stephen Mackey, who has been kind of our. Too weird. Yeah, you know, Stephen. Beyond the game. Beyond the game. Two words, right? He's going to be on the board of directors, too. So that's wonderful. But February 12th is our grassroots meeting and we'll get out good information. And Bobby, I'll give you the information. To share with the coalition. But we're going to have door prizes and we're going to want to hear what all the legislative, not just legislative, but school district concerns are so we can take it forward. And then you'll get a summary from our two and a half day meeting and make sure if you have any questions on it's too many, too many things were

046decided. It's cram packed in two and a half days, but lots of good decision making. So you should be very proud of of the TASB folks there. They're hanging in there. I think everyone's feeling stress, punch and whatever, but good stuff. And Kelly Rusty sends her love. Thank you, Dr. Harl. You're welcome. Appreciate it. Anyone else? Mr. Blanc. Yeah, just a couple of. Turn the mic on. You know, we never, never get ahead, but we always follow the lead of our superintendent. And so he talked about his podcast. I had the opportunity to do a podcast this week over at Communications Arts High School. It's actually one of my. Soccer players I've coached for six years. It's a very talented soccer player. She actually made varsity at TAPS as a freshman, which is pretty good

047at that school. Anyway, I had the opportunity to see her other talents and it was like you said, it's definitely a lot of fun. It's definitely a different style, but it's a lot of fun. Were you able to answer all her questions? I don't know. Yeah, I did. Most of it was soccer, to be honest. But yeah, we did. We did. Well, I want to get more playing time. But anyway, and again, I enjoyed it. Also, we were together. We were together. We were together. We were together at the Brunel Multicultural Event. That was really excellent. This past weekend, we had the solar car training for the elementary and middle school teachers. And it was good to see not only the number of teachers, but all the past teachers that help sort of run it.

048And they help run it, per se. They do the real work with it. Some from 20 whatever years ago that they want to give back to the solar car, helping out others. So that was really, really great to see. Reminder to the board. December 18th is. I think it's at 9 a.m. The NISDPTA Council is going to be here. So we do want to encourage the board to try to make that that morning. It's going to be on December 18th. I think it's 9 a.m. But it will be here. And we did that for the first time, I think, last year. So hopefully everybody from the board can make that part of it. Did complete a learning tree. I completed my 95 visits to every single learning tree in the last two months. It was.

049And so I really got to give a lot of thanks to their directors and their leaders, because they were always there, too, to make sure that things went well, to put it lightly, and all the site leaders and youth leaders. It's interesting. You know, as the time, as I got further and further along, I spent more and more time there, because I started my phone with the students, started learning more about the site leaders, et cetera. So that was done. That was a lot of visits. But anyway, sideline. And the last one I wanted to bring up is our great essay reading program. It's done a really good job in terms of. We're over two. It's only been. How long has it been? Three weeks or three weeks. We're already over two million minutes read

050by students, third grade students in the San Antonio surrounding area. To me, that's really fascinating. The amount of minutes we've got already gone, et cetera. The big thrust we have now, for example, the San Antonio Express was here. They might can help with this part of it. But the main thing we got now is really trying to get more mentors to go to those schools. To read to those kids. Because the teachers and librarians have gotten it down. And our big push now is, hey, let's get others out there in the community throughout all of San Antonio to pick a school and go read with the kids. So that's our big thrust. And that applies to our board members also. And that was during the day. During the day. For third graders. Yeah, for third

051graders. Yes. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you, Mr. Mott. Oh, I'm sorry. She said. Oh, I'm sorry. She whispered something to me. Coalition meeting. Celebration. So all of our. For those that aren't familiar. We're at Bear County. Our school board coalition. That's a nonprofit organization for our only trustees in the Senate in Bear County. The 20. Actually, I found out maybe 21 ISDs. But 20 ISDs. So we're going to have our big event next week also. So hopefully everybody can make this opportunity to meet with some of the other trustees. And we'll talk about some other challenges we all face, too. December 17th. Thank you. Thank you. Mrs. Freeman. Thank you. Mr. Blunt, on December 17th, where is that going to be again? I think I lost the. Oh, OK. OK. Yeah. I'm sorry. The 18th.

052The PTA breakfast. Yeah, will be the 18th right here in the boardroom at 9 a.m. The coalition meeting. Oh, I'm sorry. OK. Nick. All right. Northside Activity Center. OK. And what time? That'd be at the Northside Activity Center. 6 p.m. OK. Got it. Thank you. I. A couple of things, too. I was. The gala. Those of us who went to the. I forgot all about that. Yeah. Well, congratulations to Kim, who was one of the honored pillars, Dr. Harl. And it was it was a great. It was a great. Oh, and I'm sorry, Chris Trejo. Yes. Congratulations to you, too. Thank you for that reminder. All of our pillars. They just did a great job. And I love the event. It's it's. You know, I think we're. I don't I don't know of any other

053foundation that does anything like that in honoring those that. Were actually had graduated from from our schools. And it's it's just amazing the stories that you have. So really appreciated that event. And I think we heard Dr. Harl at the at the donor appreciation. That was the most profitable of any of them. And so they presented it was an annual. Well, their annual report. Dr. Craft, sometimes they presented that to the board in January. But I don't think we've had that in recent years. So maybe if we had a copy of the annual report in Friday letter. Yeah. And we can bring it forward on in January on the 13th as well. OK. All right. And it was very successful. Yes, it was. And they should. They worked really hard, should be very proud. And

054I did have the honor of recognizing and thanking Katie. And read for all of their support over the years for the foundation and other things that they've contributed. To to our community and to the to the Northside family. So I appreciate that. It was great seeing them both together there. And I think I had one other. And regarding grassroots, Dr. Harl, thanks for your work on the TASB board. I know that does take a lot of time and appreciate. Your willingness to be able to to go there and to represent certainly us, but also region 20 on the TASB board and how your suggestions as to how we can as a board prepare for the grassroots as we go on. Perhaps we put that in the January board meeting. And that may be even looking

055at priorities that this board has, because I assume that we're. Going to be asked for our priorities. And so we it might be nice to have it would be good for us to discuss it as a board so that we can bring that if even if we all don't go, we can bring that information forward. That's all I have. Thank you. Thank you. All right. I think that's all of our points from everyone. And for me, I'd like to thank and give a shout out to all the Marshall High School students that went out on Friday, November 21st to prepare turkey meal bags. That. Were then delivered. So they came back on Saturday morning to deliver 1000 turkeys. And we had a really neat surprises. H.E.B. As the partners with the Thanksgiving in that Vario

056program, they were also able to surprise families with a golden ticket in their bag that got an extra one hundred dollar gift card. And they were folks in tears because some of them said they didn't have any food at home. So it was really an emotional event full of surprises. So shout out to our Marshall High School students that came. Out and volunteered with us and dedicated their time. I also want to wish and thank the choir for coming tonight. They always sing my favorite song to my patron saint, Virgen de Guadalupe, which is Friday when we honor her on December 12th every year. So thank you for that beautiful rendition. I also want to thank and wish all the students and all of the community, you know, Feliz Navidad and all the various holidays

057that you may celebrate. Thank you. And I hope that you will celebrate or not throughout these months. And at the very least, please rest. I did want to shout out to the Northside Educational Foundation, the Grand Patrol going out full of surprises this week. So look out for that. It's still happening this week. Thank you to all our volunteers and the foundation board and members again at the gala, picking those pillars, being a part of that selection committee and representative to the foundation for the past two years is not easy. Thank you. So keep those names coming. Think of someone in the community that you think is a pillar and look at the criterion and select and nominate those folks because we do it every year. I was very honored to be able to give

058speaking points on behalf of the board with my mentor, Dr. Harl. And we had a great time. And so if we were able to donate a little bit, but you can still donate. So if you didn't get to go, please continue to donate and support all these schools. Thank you. Thank you all. Thank you all for coming. Thank you. Thank you very much. And we're so proud to be able to have these scholarships that we're able to offer or grants, excuse me, for teachers to really just add more to what they already do and not have to spend their own money to provide programs for our students every day. I know there are some jobs that are unpaid, these unsung heroes, because I did some of these. So I just want to thank all the

059folks that do after school duty. Thank you. This is prime season where we need to have very vigilant eyes on our students and administrative interns that are unpaid. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. This was a great session. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. you for all that you do that's a lot of fun and gains really a lot of experience our coaches shout out to you for being out there in this weather i know it's cold for us and all of the fine arts all of that has already been said uh tonight but i also wanted to thank you as the board for all that you do for all of the events that you attend um we give up a lot of our personal time to to attend

060these things and and so it's a sacrifice but it's also very rewarding so thank you all for what you do and that's all i have dr harlequin sorry i forgot just one thing um about the gala that you reminded me of rob thank you so much for giving up your places at our our table um when my 91 year old mom says she feels good enough to go to something we really wanted to make that happen so you graciously sat somewhere else and i didn't get to tell you thank you um but today my granddaughter said um uh grandma you know you come to my school and you walk into my school and there you are you're really big in this big picture reading a book you know that one that says right and now

061mom's on the other wall in her power pose i said yes missy and you're in between both of them so you better fly right so anyway but thanks again appreciate you very much all right so now to our next item which is their citizens to be heard section right yes okay so we do believe that citizens to be heard is important and meaningful and we will listen to what you have to say we value your opinion and we are restrained by law from taking any action please remember the rules address your remarks to the board confine your remarks to a north side policy or practice and limit your remarks to three minutes at three minutes you're going to be asked to wrap up your remarks please do not make personal attacks to the board and

062to the board's members please do not make personal attacks on any individual thank you madam president our only patron to sign up uh this evening is terry zablocki good evening we've all received unsolicited texts the kind that we that end with reply stop to opt out a teacher received one during the school day that began with hi this is melina and we all know that replying stop doesn't fix the real issue it simply confirms that someone has your number and you don't know how they got it as a retired teacher parent grandparent and taxpayer this citizen to be heard believes northside needs to stop to opt out of spending time on anything any policy that does not directly advance student achievement staff time legal costs and administrative time are all valuable and limited yet significant

063district time is not yet significant district time is not yet significant district time is not yet significant district time i've observed is being spent responding to an outside organization that isn't required to disclose basic information or provide any grievance or accountability process for 75 years through everything every challenge one thing has stayed constant that single student in the desk who sits in that desk our community chose to opt in and build this district together 75 years ago we must continue to opt in protect what works and remain unstoppable in our if you look to the right the mission transform the learning experience for students it travels through everyone in this room and on the other side are the students thank you thank you all right so now we move on to our next item on

064the agenda our consent agenda madam president members of the board uh thank you for joining us uh i think you'll see the consent agenda uh this evening uh is comprised of many items that we discussed last week uh about this time uh in our workshop or uh called board meeting uh so uh any questions that you may have i think you'll notice uh as we discussed dgb uh being redundant repetitive but then also um countering dga which is another agenda item you have the opportunity to discuss is up for your consideration for deletion um so uh pending any questions uh you have uh before your the consent agenda okay do we have any motions mr blount yeah i'm gonna approve the consent agenda as it's presented dr hustle oh and mr salcido said second okay

065you're gonna take it okay all right so uh we could please all in favor say aye oh dr harl um so we're just to double check because your bank is not a good place to go i just want to get used to our new format we're approving everything to letter i including um the deletion of dgb yes just a double check okay thank you that's it all right so we had a first and we had a second all in favor say aye aye any opposed any other discussion okay the motion carries because an agenda has been approved can we win this year okay with their appraisal district can we move to eight minutes sure if it's okay with the board we're going to move to 8a so mr gannon that's here um can speak yeah

066as we discussed the workshop um agenda item 8a the bear county appraisal district board of directors appointment this is again your opportunity to cast your 368 votes i believe you have all the pertinent information to include the ballot uh mr dave gannon and chairs the bear appraisal district so again thank you uh for uh your service mr gannon and again thank you for being here i think if you have any questions uh can we glad to try to answer uh those questions uh these uh next three items uh or a bear appraisal district along with uh medina uh county as well as uh the bandera central appraisal district again are do uh via resolution the 15th of December. So again, this is the Bear Appraisal District Board of Directors appointment election. Mrs. Freeman. Thank you

067Dr. Duran. Dave, thank you for being here. If you would, I do have a couple of questions. One, we touched on it our meeting last week about the importance of this particular election and electing people to the Bear Appraisal Board. Can you talk to us about the issue that you anticipate coming up? Maybe perhaps what what happened last year and the big issue that you addressed and then what you foresee in the future. So very much so. Before I start, let me just say that I was on Grand Patrol with the JLM folks this morning. We had a great time. So thank you. They're well worth honoring. So back in 2024, there is a group of people in the conservative movement of Texas who have one of their primary goals and objectives is constraining the

068revenue flows to both municipalities and school districts. And so at that time what has become known as the Tarrant Appraisal Plan was put forward. And this was a plan that was designed to do three things. And I say this not as an opinion, but because our staff did an analysis to see what the effects of it would be over time. And it had three effects. The first was it was designed to provide property tax breaks for high-value homeowners. It did that through a process of creating a cap on the rate of appraisals, which is put just above the historical rate at which appraisals historically have risen in Texas And so what I want you to understand is that in Bexar County we have to report by state law averages. Okay, so this last year the

069average rate of appreciation in home values in Bexar County was 3%. Of that, 1.5% was new construction and the rest was actual market activity. 62% of the homesteads in Bexar County fall below the average. So when you put a 4% or 5% cap, what you are doing is keeping full appraisals for those people that fall below the average and discounting the appraisals of those that go above the average. So that was one thing. It was a manipulation of the tax appraisal system to create a tax break over the long term for high value property owners. The consequences of that were twofold. It would act to constrain revenues through property taxes. It would also cause a decrease in the tax rate. So that was one of the reasons why we did that. The second point is

070that appraisal districts follow a biennium cycle. We do our appraisal plan one year and then we are audited by the state the next year. So when you are audited by the state, they determine whether you fall within the accepted practices and your appraisals are consistent with other counties. If they are not, then the consequences of that are... The tax revenue for school districts is reduced by 20%. So that's the issue that we face. As you all may know, the governor has recently proposed a proposal to radically change property taxes in the state of Texas. That won't occur at the earliest until 2027 when the legislature meets. But we are already as a board being lobbied by various entities in the state to reconsider the appraisal plan from Tarrant County. And we are already lobbying the

071state to reconsider the appraisal plan from Tarrant County. This is very disadvantageous to both municipalities and school districts. And so we just wanted you to be appraised of that fact. And when you take into consideration folks that you're going to vote for, folks that will be conscientious about the effects that will have on both municipalities and school districts. So I'm speaking here as a private citizen who's a resident of the district, not necessarily as the chair of the school board. But I want you to be aware of the consequences of the kinds of votes that you can take. Thank you, sir. Are we able to ask questions? Okay. Does anyone have any questions? Dr. Hall. Thank you. My question is more when we're ready, a suggestion on how to distribute the votes. Oh, okay. So

072you can wait. Well, thank you, sir, for that. It helps a lot. Thank you, Mr. Ganindale. We appreciate it. Okay. Any other questions? And just to recap, Tarrant is Tarrant County in North Texas. It's Fort Worth. Fort Worth. And it's in Fort Worth and Arlington. And that's where I'm from. And if you do some research, you'll see. And Dave, I believe maybe Johnson County also adopted. So Tarrant, Johnson, and there was one other small county that approved it. Yeah. The vast majority of appraisal districts rejected this for the reasons that I expressed. Okay. But it's been a hot topic. Yeah. It is. And it will be a hot topic going forward. So I just wanted you to understand the consequences of who you're voting for and what they stand for. And be sure you're making

073an informed vote. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you very much, sir, for coming. I did have a... Dr. Hall? Thank you. Is it okay to talk about everyone? Any other questions? My suggestion is we stay true to our original nomination of Gerald and Gerald Lopez and Becky Ruiz. And then so take our 368 divided by three and add Ivalice Gonzalez. And I think that would be the... Okay. I think that would be a really good representation of a government awareness and support in this process, going back to what Mr. Gannon was sharing. So anyway, that's my suggestion. So that would be like 123, 123, and then 122 for one person? Maybe one person would get one more. Okay. All right. Something like that. Mrs. Freeman? Yes. So as a recap to... And this

074might be a question for Dave Gannon or Dr. Kraft, you have this information. So there's one person on here who has been on the board. Yes. So Dr. Ralph Barksdale is an incumbent in essence and is seeking reelection to return. And I guess the question I would have for Mr. Gannon. Mr. Gannon? You want to come up to the... Dave, come up to the... So in the conversations, I know that... I know you said your board supported... What your board supported. But was there... Am I allowed to ask him how Dr. Barksdale... Votes. ...confirmed? I'm sorry? It's a matter of public records. So I can... Okay. So how did the votes... Yeah. What was the vote? So the vote was seven to two. Okay. And then the other one was... So the other one was...

075Yeah. So the other one was... Yeah. So the other one was... Yeah. So the other one was... Yeah. So the other one was... Yeah. So the other one was... We had two at-large elected members who voted for the Tarrant plan. The other board members voted for retaining our existing appraisal plan, and that would include Dr. Barksdale. Okay. And there's no other person on here that was on the... Yes. Ms. Ruiz was actually on the board at that time, she voted for it. She had anticipated, that was the end of her term. She anticipated being re-nominated. She's a member of the Board of Trustees of Harlandale. That was right around the time Harlandale got taken over by the state. So some things fell through the cracks and she was not re-nominated. Okay, thank you. Okay, thank

076you for that. Thank you. All right, any other opinions? Mrs. Freeman? So I would like to look at the numbers again. As we look at the numbers, we have a total of, and I don't know why I can't pick this up. 368. 368 votes, yeah. Okay, but I'm not even looking at the right. And let me back up while you're working on that, Ms. Freeman. Dr. Hosodin, do you want to speak while they're figuring it out? I think I want to. Oh, go ahead. Well, I just want to draw your attention again. So in the aggregate, there are 2,000. I think initially we had discussed it's not the 5,000. So there was a revision as a result of election code, and I can say that has since been forwarding on to us. So in the

077aggregate, they're amongst the taxing entities. There are 2,000 votes. And there are two candidates. Where do I get 368? Oh, I know. Well, 368 is how many we have as a taxing entity. So we're the second. We have the second highest vote count. But again, it's 2,000 votes. The two with the majority votes would be the candidates that would be elected to the board. So we get to allocate 368. You have the ability to allocate via resolution, 368. Dr. Hosodin? So I'm glad that you clarified that because I feel like there were. There are only two people that are going to be voted. So my thought process at least is because I know one candidate is from the city of San Antonio who I feel like also has a strong number of votes. And so

078my assumption is obviously the city of San Antonio is going to put their votes with that person. Another individual that we voted for, too, is also with Alamo Colleges. So I'm making the assumption that Alamo Colleges will put their votes. I don't foresee. And I could just mathematically not be seeing this because if we have 368 and there's 2,000 votes out there, I don't foresee how splitting our vote gives us the same voting power. Personally, I feel like we should put our votes into one person because I don't think mathematically that if we split the vote that both individuals would really have a viable chance versus putting all our votes in one person. Right. Has a stronger viable chance of that one person being on one of the votes because there's only two. So saying

079that, you know, my viable vote would be suggested to be to Gerald Lopez. One, because he's, you know, he's a school trustee and others with Alamo Colleges that overlaps where we're at. He was also a board member previously in our board. And so he knows many of the things that we, you know. That's at least. That's at least kind of my look through or my kind of suggestion. But I'd love to hear what everybody else's feel is. Any other opinions? Mrs. Freeman. So, Dr. Craft, I forgot we were talking about this earlier today. I asked you and we've asked this question as a board to the total number of votes that has been cast because that is public record. And I know you were going to speak with Dave Gannon about that. You have those

080numbers. I do. So because there is, like I say, a mathematical. A mathematical strategy, obviously, as you're thinking through this. Yeah. So Dr. Barksdale currently has, to this latest count, 322 votes. Juliana, I believe it's Dissec, three votes. Ms. Gonzalez, 450. 450 votes. And again, she was the. City. Well, city council member, but also the nominated by the city of San Antonio. Gerald Lopez, 278 votes. Lee Martinez, 42 votes. Orlando Ramirez, 49. And Becky Ruiz, 71. And they get to pick how many? Two. Yes, I'm sorry. So you want to go for the top two? The two members with the greatest votes would be elected of the 2,000. Okay. So does that make us rethink our strategy? Ms. Zapata. Yes, I think. Microphone. Okay, I'm sorry. Maybe not dividing it by three, but maybe dividing

081it by two. Going with Ivalice Gonzalez and Gerald Lopez. Okay, good. Mrs. Freeman. Yeah, I would agree that I think perhaps we need to consider two. But rather than Ivalice, I would agree with Gerald. But we know that we know where Dr. Barksdale was in the past. And from my opinion, I think it's important that we ensure that he comes back as well. We do not have, while Ivalice has been on the council, she hasn't been involved with schools. So I... She has children. I understand she has children, but she's not been involved in this process. So where Dr. Barksdale has been on the board, we have not been involved in this process. We know where his... We know how he has voted in the past. No reason to believe that he's going to do

082anything different. And Gerald has been not only on this board, but the ACC board as well. And so he has served public education. And that's where I think that we ought to distribute our votes to ensure that Dr. Barksdale gets in and Gerald Lopez. And regarding... Regarding Ivalice, this is a board that you need to build trust with. And Ivalice is currently not affiliated with school districts. Okay. Thank you. Dr. Hall. Okay. I just want to point a clarification on Dr. Barksdale and on Ms. Ruiz. I misunderstood. I thought Barksdale was one of the two that... I mean... I think one of the... Can you say it again, Dave? How did he vote? So both Dr. Barksdale and Ms. Ruiz voted to re-approve our normal reappraisal plan. Okay. The votes against that were by two

083individuals who were elected at large. Okay. And not appointed to the board. Okay. Okay. I misunderstood. And I just... The other point I wanted to make now that we have these numbers, I do want to keep Ivalice in the running. And I... I do believe truly that we have three incredible trustees that are brand new and have not sat on boards before and have done a great job. And I think that Ivalice, even though she is new to city council, has represented San Antonio in multiple ways and been on numerous committees that involve the welfare of education and kids. And so I do think she deserves... I think she deserves an opportunity to do that. She's got 450 votes. So I understand what you're saying, Dr. Hossow, too, about ensuring that we sink in our

084support the best person. And I agree with everything everyone said about Gerald as well. So I would like to see... Thank you. Mr. Blunt? Yeah. I was just going to... Just to listen to the conversation. At least this is sort of a further starting point. I think we have agreement on Gerald. I would suggest two, not three. I think three, we may lose out on everything, to be honest, if we're trying to influence. But if you do get to two, it seems to me like we're seeing an agreement. At least Gerald Lopez should get the 184. And then we have the conversation on the other two from there. But I think if nothing else, we can agree to that part. One of the questions I have, and you're next, Ms. Zapata, is do we know

085who's casted their vote? Like, how many votes are outstanding still? Yeah, we don't have that number. I don't have it by taxing entity. I was just doing some real quick math. Based on the numbers I just provided, you're at 1151 plus the 368 would put us at 1519. So you've got 421 votes that are still outstanding. But again, you can go to that aggregate. And I think that you can probably see pretty clearly. Aside from San Antonio, the city of San Antonio, excuse me, I mean, you have really, well, the second highest voting block, i.e. voting power, if you will, just by the sheer number of ballots. So just again, that's something to really take into consideration. This vote will be impactful as to who serves Bear Appraisal District. Okay. Ms. Zapata. I'm going to

086echo Carol's remarks on Ivalice. I'm fairly new, but I've been working with her for some future projects. I know she wants to represent, be more involved, and just having those meetings to see how she can help us, help our communities, help our students. I know she held a back-to-school bash. We're talking about a town hall, working together to bring more information to the community. She represents a big portion of our district, and I've had some really good conversations with her. So I believe that she will be a champion for Northside. Okay. Do you have an allocation suggestion, like the numbers? Again, I just go back to... Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Ivalice and Gerald Lopez. Okay. Mrs. Freeman. So as we're getting more

087specific here regarding where or who we cast our votes for, I will say that I have also had conversations with Ivalice before she was elected, since she's been elected. But I got to tell you, she still has a trial that's pending. She still... Still, she was censured by the city, although they did appoint her. They did appoint her for this. As far as I know, she's still been removed from committees. And this is something I think when you're appointed to a board and develop relationships, you need to build trust with the people that you work with. Does what has happened in the past for her affect her building trust on that particular board? And my thought is that Dr. Barksdale has already proven where his alliance is, and he's already worked with those people on

088that board. And so my recommendation is to split our votes between Gerald and Dr. Barksdale for those reasons. Okay. Mr. Bont. Yeah, I was going to, I think, I'm looking at the numbers now. Thanks for having that information, by the way. That's helpful. Because I tell you the truth, mine was really Becky Ruiz. I know from a board sense and some other things, I think I bought that last month. But just look at the numbers. I don't see, you know, we wouldn't, Becky wouldn't be able to get it. And then what I look at is I would, for me, prefer another experienced person there. It's not going to be Becky if Barksdale is it, as opposed to having two new ones coming on, per se. I think that's going to be real critical with the

089challenges. That Bear County Appraisal District is going to face, the conversations had, and having that background, I think it's going to be helpful. So I would favor Barksdale and Gerald also. And so you're saying with the number of votes that Ms. Ruiz has right now, if we were to give her any, you wouldn't put her into that position. So while we would like to support her like we did already, it wouldn't be strategically savvy. Right. You got it. Yeah. Okay. Ms. Zapata. Again? Okay. Mr. Sancido? Yeah. You have it up. Yeah. I agree with getting somebody with experience already, like, that's going to truly represent us. I would suggest, my personal opinion would be just give all the votes to Gerald, and we'll make sure that he gets in at least. I think in the

090last elections that we did for the Bear County, Mr. Gannon was one of the ones we gave all our votes to, to make sure that we got somebody in. So that's my opinion. Okay. All right. Does anyone have any? No. Go ahead, Mr. Sancido. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Dr. Hall. Just a real quick question. Gerald hasn't been on this. No. Okay. So he would be inexperienced as well? Yes. Just making sure. Because you said someone with experience. Okay. Correct. Thank you. All right. It was like we had three different suggestions. Well, I think, I think, I think we just need to go through regular Robert's Rules of Order, Madam President. Okay. And if there's anything else, if there's

091anything else. If there's a motion and a second, and then we'll just take each scenario. All right. As, as there are. Any motions to come? Proposed, yeah. Ms. Zapata. I motion to, to cut our votes in half and, and do half to Ivalice and the other half to Gerald Lopez. Okay. All right. So let's vote. Any discussion? All in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Nay. Nay. Okay. And I vote. I'm sorry, I didn't know if you counted mine. I agree. I vote that. Yeah. Let us get the, let us get the record vote. It's a 5-2 vote with Ms. Freeman and Mr. Blunt in opposition. This is part of new statute as well. We've got to make sure we get the record vote. . No, it would, by name. . by trustee.

092Okay, so five in favor are Ms. Zapata, Dr. Hall, Mr. Salcido, Dr. Duran, and Dr. Hasso, and the two opposed are Mr. Blount and Ms. Freeman. Okay. Okay. Motion carries. Any other discussion? We will ensure that the resolution is submitted to the Bayer Appraisal District in a timely manner. Very good points. DNC while we're at it. All right. So. And then we'll come back. And now we are moving on to still more votes in motion here. Now with the Medina Central Appraisal District Board appointments that we have to make today. Do we have any guest speakers? Yes, ma'am. No. You'll see that with Medina and Vandera, we don't have nearly the number of votes. So with Medina, I think that you'll see there is actually a namesake as a candidate. And so. With this particular

093ballot, I believe you have, let me get to the number. 130. 130. 130 votes. And six folks. And we don't know any of them? Oh, you. Oh. Yeah, we do. Mr. Blount had a point. Yeah, real quick. This is going to be a little bit faster, I hope. No, I was going to suggest that, yeah, we do know Harold Bushcom. He once served as a board of trustee member with some of us. Okay. I would definitely support. Good person. In relation to Gorm Street and all that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's been around for a little bit. He's not the namesake himself, but he's, yeah, that's his family. And the Makins, any relation to the Makin family? I don't know them. Okay. Oh,

094sorry. Don't quote me if I should. Any other comments? So I would, okay, I wouldn't. Do we have any data on that? Statistical current data? I do not. How we would sway the votes. We ain't going to sway nothing on this one. Okay. So any motions to move forward? Yeah, I would move that we give 130 votes to Harold Bushcom. Yeah. Yeah. to Harold Bush call okay okay any one that would like to go vote in favor of that say aye aye aye opposed all right motion carries okay thank you so 130 votes all in favor every one of us for mr. Gaum Harold butch for medina valley I don't really know is it Harold butch okay there we go and now we do have another motion for the bandera central appraisal district board of

095directors appointments yeah and again you have 50 votes five member voting board you have the four candidates I believe on the ballot well that's the pertinent information I can give you so I'm going to go ahead and vote for the board and provide and the candidates are Don Giles Russell Hennifer Bo Mansfield and George Charmin Charmin Charmin okay any everybody have any input on these fine folks mr. Blunt has no I don't know I have no information but in such a case I will tell you you know we are the board but yeah exactly I would do 13 13 12 and 12 for no particular reason all right all right all right all right all right all right all right anyone have any is that an emotion if I may just not to complicate matters

096but I'm really good at complicating matters as you are well aware who would you like to the 13 to be applied okay so Don Giles and Russell Hennifer 13 and 13 and then Bo Mansfield 12 and George Charmin 12 and 12 was also project for this feeling Rapid omega not one of the 4 composed and purple-conquest and that's why importance of your name on the balance that matters this is a prime example okay I second that one shit okay alright all in favor say aye aye and the opposed okay motion carries that we divide our boats did you get that Monica okay perfect all right thank you all thank youнали gonna go right back up to All right, number six, curriculum and instruction. Yeah, so as presented, you saw the 26-27 calendar last Tuesday. We

097went ahead and put together, again, same parameters, the 27-28 calendar. As I mentioned, I believe, last week, I'd really be surprised at how much the calendar drives, particularly the planning efforts going into next school year. We feel like that both these calendars are really strong calendars. They've been vetted through the various committees. We feel good about making this recommendation. So, again, you have before you in your supporting documents 26-27, as well as the 27-28 calendar. Upon your consideration and or approval, we will be communicating and publishing. We will be publishing these calendars pretty quickly, like tomorrow, because I know, like I say, there are always a lot of, this particular item always garners a lot of public interest. I have a question, Dr. Jordan. The way that we had asked if you could give us

098like the wording on those requested through the community for honorarium, what was the outcome of that? So, we talked about doing maybe a commemoration. So, are you talking about? For Cesar Chavez? Cesar Chavez, yes. And so, what we had discussed was working with not only district staff and perhaps involving, you know, the young lady who came and spoke to put together some activities and ideas that we could push out to campuses where teachers could incorporate things from the essential knowledge and skills and do celebrations on their campus. It's very similar to what we do for Veterans Day. Individual campuses, you know, it's certainly within the standards. And then individual campuses celebrate and commemorate. So, it doesn't say commemoration on the calendar for Cesar Chavez. It doesn't say that on Veterans Day. But there are things

099that we can do centrally and push that out to teachers and campuses. And are those the only two holidays that are commemorative by the nature of this? Well. They are. They are. Yeah. There's various requirements. Like in Texas, you have to do something called Celebrate Freedom Week, where you put out, you know, different ideas, websites for teachers to use. But the idea of us pushing some things out for the Cesar Chavez in particular was due to this board and some of the community interest. We certainly can do that for other areas. We just have to be very careful, you know, certainly with instructional time. And, you know, it wouldn't be a coordinated district where every campus is doing the same thing, you know, at the same time. But we can push out some resources that

100campuses could choose. Individual teachers. So I guess for those, like those commemorative, like we also have like Purple Day. We have all of those things. Is that on a separate calendar? Are those events somewhere? No. So. The district has kind of a calendar called Special Days that may have the purple up for the military day. So can that, that Cesar Chavez be on that special day commemorative with Veterans Day? That would be up to the decision of this board. Yeah, it's the special days are, it's really an unofficial kind of calendar. Yeah, we could. For programming purposes so that it's more intentional and that we're actually responding to the community. Yes. We can incorporate, like I said, those commemorative days. Okay. And when can we get to see that? The, I'm looking back this way

101because our wonderful Miss Falkenberry is the, is the keeper and the creator of the special days. Oh my, she's going to do it right now. Look at her. Wow. That's talking about just in time. Perfect. Any other questions, Dr. Hall? It's very much inclusive. Yeah. Red Ribbon Week. Yeah. Okay. Dr. Hall? We certainly can. No, I think you, you asked the question and probed really, really well. I was going to go to the same place and there, there, there was a time where only a few campuses were doing Veterans Day and I, I would love that it was 100%. And so that, I don't know how that could ever happen. Same with Cesar Chavez. It's the calendar, the one before that. So I wanted to stay true to the, the young. The young lady that

102we said we would really work on this and we'd come up with something that reflected, um, her passionate appeal, but not just on, on her behalf, but she was representing a lot of students and a lot of families. But on the 26th, 27th, it naturally falls on real close to his birthday in the city holiday, right? And it doesn't the next year. And I, so I don't know where the city holiday is. So you were going to where my suggestion was. I, I. I saw those wonderful celebration days and times, but there are, but they're there. If you want to do them. Yay. If you don't want to do them. Yay. Like, you know, everyone does stop drop and does Veterans Day. And, and that's, that's incredibly, um, um, sad to me that we don't.

103Um, so I'm just talking from my point of view, the same with that. I'm just wondering what could be between. It's on the calendar. It's on the calendar and you stop drop and you're at home or something. And then it's, here's all the wonderful days that you can do things in our district. Is there a way to denote it on this calendar? Like, um, a different color and it's, I don't know. I, I'm just thinking out loud to try to figure out something between, um, we are having an official holiday to that other list that Monica, um, spends. It's a. It's a huge list. Yeah. If I may, the special day, um, uh, calendar, um, like I say, it's, it's very inclusive. Um, I think administratively we, we can communicate, uh, through our monthly leadership

104meetings, you know, Veterans Day, um, Cesar Chavez Day. I mean, these are, these are, uh, an expectation that there are some campus activities. Uh, that commemorates, uh, these certain holidays. Now I think, you know, again, talking about it, how inclusive it is. We need to be careful, um, that every day we list, um, it's not a stop, uh, regular instructional activities. Um, but that, that can be communicated. I would caution against doing anything with the academic calendar from a color coding standpoint. Um, other than the days that either are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, uh, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be concerned just for a day because I, because I'm just, I'm just afraid

105that that may confuse the public and I would hate to see a, uh, well, an impact to the average daily attendance, uh, as a result. Well, this day was colored yellow or, so I would, I would keep that really pretty straight to here are, uh, obviously recognized holidays, uh, days that we will not, uh, be engaged in instructional activity, professional development days, and then allow us to address it administratively with the, like I say, special days calendar and really through our leadership meetings. Yeah, I agree. And I think just to finish my thinking is when a district at the leadership level says these are the most important things, don't forget all these other things, but here's kind of our big rock areas that we really want to unify around. They're this, this, and maybe, you

106know, we help them. And I'm preaching to the choir, but I think that that would help with that too. So we haven't done that necessarily around days or commemorations. Well, we're more than happy. We can bring back to a special call board meeting some ideas that we pulled together. We already have some of our social studies specialists on the case. They're super excited about it. So we can bring those forward. And. And to Dr. Kraft's point, we can talk about how administratively we're, you know, kind of the encouraging and having things out there. And even I think of our communications department, you know, there's nothing like filming and highlighting the work on the campuses that then motivate others to participate. I just, I agree. And I just want the community to know we heard your

107voice. We want to be intentional. And we've been asking, it's not something where we put on the back burner. It's just a process, right? And we've gone through it and you've heard them and you and Dr. Jordan, thank you for the leadership. And it's a long process, but we do have to make these decisions today and continue to honor your request. So, Mr. Blunt. I think you get a good summary. I was going to say, and I think everybody understands that now that, you know, we don't have committer of holidays as North ISD. I know we're looking at the state and other lists and others that do. So I think we've got to remember that, too. And I think the key is like y'all are pointing out. In this case, we really leave the message

108to administration and trust that they handle it and verify. I mean, look at your community and just apply, right? And then move forward with what you need to do to be inclusive, but also to honor those folks that are important. And a military city Veterans Day is very important. So thank you. Okay. Good conversations. So this is an action item. Yes. Do we have any motions? Yes. Ms. Zapata. I motion that we accept both calendars and move forward. All right. A second? Second. Mr. Blunt. Second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? All right. Motion carries. And calendars have been passed through 2028. Hard to believe. Well. Like I say, I know that this will be a hot topic. And so we'll have those published just as quickly as we can tonight. I'm getting

109the word. Tomorrow. We're printing tonight. Tomorrow. Tomorrow. Okay. Slow me down. All right. Thank you. All right. Thank you all. And now we're moving on to item B, pre-kindergarten expansion proposal. Again, this is a follow-up item. I believe, if you recall, last week you had two options that were presented. This is option B for your consideration. Again, we're looking to expand to include three-year-olds. Again, if we need to answer any questions or if you have any further questions, we'll be glad to do so. We're voting for this tonight. Okay. So do we have any motions? If not, any questions? Dr. Hall? I move that we... Mrs. Freeman? Second. Okay. All in favor? Aye. Say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. We approve now the pre-k for program expansion proposal. It passes. Thank you. Motion C, or

110item number C, excuse me, the Northside Connect virtual school type. Okay. So, I'll kick this conversation off. Sometimes I have to kind of survey the road ahead, and I feel like that our wonderful team and Ms. Zapata, thank you for your compliment. It is a great team, but I want to make sure they have plenty to do this spring. So, that being said, we are preparing to bring back in January a comprehensive program. Okay. So, that being said, we are preparing to bring back in January a comprehensive view analysis of really looking at kicking off a virtual school, as it has been legislatively authorized this past session, that is, in essence, working to get, I would say, out in front. However, I will tell you again, other large school districts are actively engaging in this

111endeavor. I think I mentioned to include Cy Fair. And this is an option that we'll work to refine because there are still a lot of decision points that we're going to have to bring forward as you're going to have questions. But we are actively, aggressively pursuing constructing and preparing to launch a virtual high school for next school year. This will likely entail its own campus code. We are looking at a 100% virtual school. I know that there are questions that we're still working to solidify and answer in and around UIL activity participation. There, like I say, are just a few questions as the rulemaking is underway through the agency. But this is absolutely going to be a viable option. We were discussing it for a couple of hours this morning. We're excited about this opportunity.

112We're excited about this opportunity. We're excited about this opportunity. We're excited about this opportunity. I think that when you look at a lot of different data points, this is absolutely a request by our community. One of the data points that we have recently tasked and will provide the report is an exit survey. And this was just recently conducted. In fact, we received the results just late last week or maybe yesterday. And it was interesting in the sense of the respondents who have exited Northside ISD that did respond. Number one rationale was flexibility. I think I've mentioned a homeschool report that Bob Templeton recently delivered just with the number of increase in students, which we've actually pulled the number of homeschool students that we currently have just last year. We're talking about over 400 additional homeschool

113students. But the homeschool initiative or real push right now is a result of having the flexibility and the families having that flexibility kind of to take a on demand provision of educational services approach. I think that this is going to meet that need. Another, you know, anecdotal subjective data. But part of our student voice was with a conversation that we had with our very own Harlan High School Gatorade Athlete of the Year, Tate Taylor, who indicated, you know, have you thought about unsolicited? Have you thought about a virtual school? Because that would have absolutely helped me, especially with my very stringent travel schedule. So this will not. Be like, say, the option for every student. But I do think that it could be an absolute option for many families that may have elected to homeschool

114that may have elected to transition to a charter school. And this, like I say, may be the viable option, which we will be partnering with an outside entity that is an expert in providing a virtual school. environment. Again, some of our big, big decision points are bringing back to you. What does UIL participation look like? Because right now, students would be able to participate in extracurricular activities, i.e., athletics, fine arts, at their zoned campus. Similar to how the homeschool policy work is. in the school. So we have a lot of opportunities. Lots of opportunities. works at this point as well. So you can kind of see our primary goal is to provide this as a viable option. We do think that there will absolutely be demand. This will, in essence, be a program that we'll

115be able to provide not only to in-district Northside ISD students, but potentially also out-of-district students. So again, garnering additional ADA. There will be associated costs, particularly with whichever vendor is selected through the RFP process. You'll see the phased approach. We were discussing, you know, do we start with one grade and then build? I just think we're at a point in surveying the landscape across the state. We need to launch this 9 through 12 and be prepared to go through that. So we're going to be doing that. Really prepared to go all in. And I can say this with full confidence. We will not be alone in this venture. It is very evident. And to some degree, from a marketing standpoint, we've got a little bit of ground to cover and to pick up. But I

116know that, like I say, the team is up to the task and we're excited about it. But this is going to be a very transformative approach. And so I guess the warning is we know that it's not going to be perfect, but I just don't think that we wait another year before we aggressively work to launch this program. Mr. Salcido? Yeah. This topic brought up a whole bunch of concerns about us. How many numbers are we looking at as far as... And that's a great question. It's hard to project the numbers. Again, I can say this confidently. If you go back and look at, which this may not be the best benchmark, but when the option was made available to remain in the virtual environment versus return to in-person instruction, particularly at the high school

117level, I believe that that rate of return was about 50 percent. So if you just kind of think about that number divided by 31,000, which is the approximate number of high school students we have, there'll be demand. So we'll be losing some of our 88 to the third party vendor, right? There'll be some. But again, we wouldn't, we would not go a virtual high school of 15,000. I mean, we're not going to have the broadband, nor is a vendor going to have the broadband. Never say never. Well, we've met. We cap it. Yeah. At this point with three vendors. And so great question, Mr. Salcido. Because to Dr. Kraft's point, really looking at a phase in approach and to add each year. So that's going to be something we're looking at is initially what makes

118sense for the capacity. It's rigorous. It requires parental input. The student, the student, this isn't something that they can just kind of coast through. So. So. So your very question will be one of the things, you know, what for the first year for each grade level, what makes the most sense. Does it include a special education? We will. We'll open it to special education students as well. And so that's a piece that we'll need to make sure we iron, iron that out. Some of the strategic questions I had that I don't expect an answer for right now that I'd like for you to consider are, for example, like, what would a diploma look like? Would it be their home campus? Or would they stay at home? Would they say, I want mine to say Soto

119Mayor. Could they do that? And so that and then to your point, like, what about a hybrid model? Like, yeah. And then also, like, to your point, Dr. Kraft, like, we don't know if there's going to be another pandemic. Right. And so this is kind of like thinking about when someone's ill and all of those other things. Like, I think that would help ADA for those students that may be going through some kind of difficult issue. Yeah. I think that those are all great questions. I think that let me answer them backwards. I don't know that I anticipate seeing anything like we experienced in 2020 and 21 in particular. But but I will say this, that this is a this is an area that is only going to expand going forward. I mean, it is

120just very evident. It is not a well, we tried that. It wasn't very successful. I just I do not. I do not foresee this genie being put back in the bottle, period. It won't be an optimal platform for every learner. In fact, I would venture to say that this is going to be a very specialized niche that we'll be providing. As Dr. Jordan articulated, the student is going to have to be incredibly self-motivated and there is going to have to be the parental support for them to be successful. Again, a special niche. And that will be vetted through the application screening process and of course, acceptance. The other piece, as far as the graduation and diploma that we've discussed, if we create its in essence own campus code, they would receive their diploma from this

121virtual campus. It's own name. High school. Okay. And we've got it right now coined Northside Connect. But that's not to say. That you won't have naming privileges. That's very awesome. Here we go. What are the colors going to be? Clear. Transparent. I've got a few other items that are a little bit higher on the priority list right now. To do. But we'll get there. We'll definitely get there. Thank you, sir. And Dr. Harl. Yeah. I just I think this is a space that. Yeah. We've just for lack of better terms, we need to be in the game. Mm hmm. We do lose market share of those students to other providers. To your point, Mr. Saucy, though, because we don't have this set up. Right. Dr. Hall. No, I agree. And I do believe it's for

122a certain group of kiddos that that would love to do this and thrive under it. I just and I know you're you're listening with the same kind of ears. But, you know, what is the human type? I mean, our teacher is not going to lose total touch of this too. Will there be an educator that's charged with following the kiddo and making sure that you know, not that just works getting done, but, you know, checking in just like a teacher face to face would do in the classroom. It's something along that lines that they don't lose total touch with the humans in the district. So. Thank you. Great point. Mrs. Freeman. A couple couple questions. One. So. These have to be highly motivated kids. It's going to require parental support. But what if we determine

123that this child is not being successful in this particular environment? Are we going to disenroll them? Will that be in part of the contract per se? Yeah, I mean, I think those are areas that we're still going to have to continue to explore. I think that just like we do with any of our high schools, for example, as a result of academic performance or lack thereof, we don't just automatically disenroll. Right. So I don't foresee that this particular academy or high school functioning differently in that regard. However, I think talking about the personal touch. If a student is demonstrating they just can't be successful in this modality, we're going to be working with the family. We need the student back in person for remediation and really to get back on track. And so they'll have

124to be those safeguards put in place so that in essence, if they demonstrate, particularly semester one, that they just cannot be successful, how we work with the parent through interventions to bring them back. I just wonder if that's a and and you will determine this as we go forward. But if that's a conversation that we have with the parents, because sometimes there's a will of the child who says, this is what I really want to do. And mom and dad say, yeah, this would be great. And then it's just not for that particular student. So I guess I'm concerned about that. And you will work with that. What happens with us in the high school, like having been an admin, like we lose them to these online programs and then they don't succeed and they

125come back. So we can recapture our own students. I think. And if we have them in house, that's even an easier transition and with immediate supports. Some of these students will not be, though, in our school, this ecosystem. That's that's a great point. Now we welcome all students. That is also a decision point. But seeing that we are open enrollment, right, but that's a decision point. It can be limited to in district students only. I. I would agree. I think that the I would much rather I would much rather be controlling this modality environment through Northside than not. And that's a great point. We had that conversation this morning as well, that in so many instances, the students, whether it be in a virtual and or a charter and or homeschool environment, come to us.

126But we haven't had that contact or that touch. And they're so far behind. The remediation work is is is pretty tremendous for campuses. I believe that this will help us in that regard in the sense of at least we have them in the Northside ecosystem that we can engage in, like, say, intervene much earlier on. And if I may, Mrs. Zapata. I'm sorry. I just had another question. Oh, yes. Regarding. So did I know we talked about. This last week briefly. I think we talked about it last week briefly. Was that right? Last week. I don't think it was brief. There's nothing brief. OK. There is a this this date is coming up rapidly. Is there a deadline for us to what is that deadline? What are we this is not this is not for

127a lasso for like you're talking about for the lasso grant, the deadline that we're looking at. As far as a formal decision and being able to announce to the community, to the public. Yes, we have board approval, and this is what the program is going to look like right now. We're we're targeting February 4th. Yeah. Because this is not on the agenda for. No, we'll place it on the agenda for January 13th. This is just an information item. And before we get to that point, will you have cost estimates? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So we're going to continue to work through the the big piece right now is who do we anticipate partnering with as a vendor? And then we need to get into, like I say, the questions associated with in district, out of district

128UIL participation. I mean, there's still a pretty tremendous amount of work that we have to work through administratively. But as we expand these conversations beyond the administrative team, just like it is already, it's going to start becoming pretty widely known that we are exploring this. And we just didn't want it to be a surprise. Yes. In fact, we are. We are actively planning to bring back this information and recommendation ultimately. And like I say, it's exciting. The biggest thing that. That we discussed this morning was we want to make sure we do this right and it has to be successful. So when we start talking about transforming education, this is transformative. This. Well, we've got to get this one right. OK. Thank you, sir. Mrs. Pata. No, I agree. I think it's it's where everyone's

129going. And if we could do this right and be the first, I mean, that would that would be. I think it would be tremendous for us. I'm just I I think the hybrid, too. I think it's important because, you know, just offering our resources, especially for students, those students that need it, just make sure that they know that the resources are there. And so maybe some having some sort of, you know, like where a kid has to check in or or or. A tutoring center or something. And I think I think we can get there. I just I'm a little bit concerned about. Biting off a little bit more than we can do. No, no, no. Logistics involved. Obviously, students would have to go to a class, have a teacher of record. They're just there

130are at least a instructional aid record. There just be some other logistics that I think we will get there. And we kind of already do with some very special circumstances through Texas Virtual School Network and other online platforms. Credit recovery. I just want to be careful that, again, we're just not we're not trying to do too much. No, I understand. I understand. And so they know that we have those resources. Also, like I know you mentioned, like our athlete, Tate, and I'm thinking like, you know, we talked about our veterans. You know how many of our you know, you know, the the families get displaced or whatnot. And this gives them that option to continue their education with us if they you know, their family is moved. Right. Because we are. A military city. Yeah,

131exactly. And based on the survey, exit survey data, another highly correlated reason that the families withdrew, they moved. I think also, I mean, I know, again, we're in the early stages of it that we're going to have to come pretty quick. But I think of the degrees that we're going to be offered offering, like, you know, I know would be starting at ninth grade. But, you know, standard advanced. I mean, I'm even thinking like, you know, rolling this out. Right. I mean, we're including college credit. You know how we can. Credit. Yeah. Yeah. We can incorporate that. This is no pressure, Jerry. This is a blank canvas. Yeah. And this is a credit partner. I think it's very important that we get those teachers in a classroom, sit down with the counselors and kind of

132go through this. You know, as as. As detailed as we can so we can make sure that we roll this out. We roll it out right. And thinking about every possible scenario and how we can be successful. Yeah. And they're there in laws. Like I say, the logistics that I'm describing with our counselors, with our teachers, the hybrid environment that becomes absolutely part of the conversation. What we're describing is if we go 100 percent, it's going to be heavily reliant upon the teachers. Right. And it's going to be heavily reliant upon the vendor that's selected. And it is truly a standalone campus with some coordination director support. But this is really not a program that per se is going to be directed by one of our high school counselors. Yes. Great. Great point, Dr. Craft.

133So you can imagine, you know, the timeline is very tight. And this is the right thing to do. And frankly, we're nervous, but we're actually very excited. Yeah. We think this is going to fit a need. And so right now, as Dr. Craft has mentioned, we're looking for a vendor. We've narrowed it down to two. And and we've got some more questions for that vendor. And so we're looking for what we call a turnkey solution because we are putting this together in a matter of weeks. And so, again, a phase in approach. Get it started. And as we continue and expand, we can grow. We can add things to it. I will tell you, we've learned a lot just over the last five days in meeting with vendors. Even though they call it a turnkey

134solution, there is a lift from the district. So, you know, they ask you to identify some key folks, somebody to act even as a principal, someone to act as a guide. Right. Someone to act as a counselor that works in conjunction with their particular staff. Our desire is the companies that we're currently inquiring with have a lot of experience with this. So I think many of the questions that we have, I think we'll get lots of answers to. We'll be able to bring options. I think also there's going to be things that they put before us that we didn't even think to ask at this point. So things will move very quickly with, as Dr. Kraft said, we're looking at registration beginning in early February, which means marketing and recruitment needs to happen in January,

135which means the parent meetings and student meetings need to happen, which means you back up in the marketing plan and all that needs to be created. So we have a core team that's been, I think, meeting multiple times a day. It's felt like. But it's starting to take shape. And the next big step is that partnership with the vendor. So on January 13th, that would be a great time for us to bring back. And by then we will have a vendor. We must have a vendor because we really can't move forward until we know that. And perhaps we can even have a rep come and speak and get some questions. But there will be. There's going to be decisions to make. Some big decisions to shape it. Initially, we talked this morning, although we're talking

136about 2627, which is really important. We want to continue to think of 2728 2829 2930. So although we're designing this for next year, where do we ultimately want to be in four and five years? So that as we're building these phases, we're heading towards the future. We're heading towards the ultimate goal. And just for the record, like Turkey is when a product or service is ready. It's a business term. You just put the key in and it works right. Like you turn your car on. So that's the concept is that we're not going to have to build anything. It's built, which is going to start it and go. This is this is not really our area of expertise. Not to say that it will become. But we need the we need to absolutely capitalize on

137the experience. And expertise that of programs that have been implemented in particularly service providers that know this inside out. This is their core business. In essence, Mr. Blunt. Yeah, it's to question. I know part of it goes back to the question about veterans, etc. So the legislation does not limit geographically. No, it can be anywhere in the world. Correct. Anywhere. It can be coming. The other. The other thing, too. Yeah. I think it's important to think about this. And listen to conversation. I hate to compare, but I will. And we've been through COVID and virtual aspects there. And reason why I bring it up is I definitely believe that we should be doing this. I'll say that first of all, is member part of the impression we left after that is that virtual didn't work.

138So we're going to have to make sure that we tell the story of, OK, I mean, this is why we said that then. This is why we think it'll work now. And as we talk to these various vendors, my real question is going to be, I think, you know, mine is going to be this. What was the impact they really had? And what district were they in? What was the impact they really had? And they make that the very best per se. I know they have good products and that type of story, but it's going to really be special of their experience to say, OK, yeah, you really made that the best. And that program did so. Yeah. Yeah. And I think a big part with the conversation and external pressures, obviously, extrinsically really forced

139us to evolve and evolve very quickly, even beyond. What we were prepared or really probably willing. This is different in the sense of I sense that this is much more intrinsically. There's a there's a catalyst to actually meet the need for the students that are looking at this as a choice. And so there's just some different dynamics motivators to make this a successful program versus kind of a. We had to do it to suffice. A need and like overnight. And like I say, this will be a quick turn, but I feel confident that we can we can provide a quality product in this particular space going into next school year. Dr. Hassell. So like this, right? Like, I think it's great. And I get like using a vendor for the efficiency of it and trying

140to get off the ground. But I also have to obviously do the point of like these teachers. Right. Like, you know, teachers will not at least, you know, they're not going to be Northside teachers like no one can teach like our Northside teachers. I just want to say that. Also, just looking at like I completely understand like an online high school is its own daunting task. But it's kind of like even regardless with this vendor, you're going to have to have a principal. You're going to have to administrator. You're going to have to have a counselor. You're going to have to have the shell of a high school already. And just also just thinking of like, you know, you already have we already have so many dual credit faculty that teach for the district, you

141know, and you have a partner that has online certifications to get individuals to be able to do online courses at the college level. And so just something to really think of and lean on as I think Trustee López has mentioned, like, you know, leaning on Alamo College. And I will say, obviously, I do work for one of these. I do work for one of the Alamo colleges. I do not work with the one that you all specifically that we specifically partner with. But just kind of keep in mind, like for future thinking, because, you know, there are so many teachers out there and this could be a great teacher retention tool. Also, you know, one to help teachers get their master's degrees to be able to be able to teach dual credit and also teach

142high school at the exact same time and also incentivize, you know, being able to do that. And then giving the flexibility. Yeah. And then giving the flexibility to some of our other schools that right now don't have the teacher that has a master's degree. This would really open those doors for some of those schools to be able to have a Northside teacher being able to teach their course and giving them the opportunity of having that. So those are really just my like two cents on that. And just really knowing that there are partners out there. There are, you know, Incarnate Word has a fully online program. Alamo College is a fully online program. Like there are partners here in this community that can help us future wise. To get to that point. So great points.

143And I anticipate again, this will be evolution quickly. Quick evolution. And this is not the first time we've brought this up. This is kind of like an action now about it is. And so again, this is just in preparation for what's another conversation forthcoming in January that you'll have a lot more details. We'll have a lot more answers to questions that we're all asking. It's a new frontier. I mean, it really is. I mentioned it this morning that this will be probably unlike any initiative. Well, I can say this in my 27 years aside from the pandemic. But this is different. I view this as different. This will be unlike any venture. I've taken the sense of it's truly transformative. And I think based upon conversations, but also survey data and just kind of watching

144how needs or at least requests have evolved. We need to become more flexible. But we also need to, I think, provide this option as another way to do that. We need to provide this option as another option in our repertoire as to here are educational services that we have the ability to provide. Our portfolio. Yeah. That's just it. Yeah. Question. I don't think I heard this. But would this even remotely qualify as a possible 1882? Possibly. Situation? We haven't gotten that far. At least I don't think it's the team gotten that far. That's a great question. No, sir. It's an excellent question. There are a lot of things swirling. Dr. Kraft had mentioned rulemaking is happening now. We don't even have all of the details that we need to make it its own school and

145own number. I know one of the vendors that we spoke with, I lose track, but it even mentioned, you know, you even can start with it as a program if you don't know the rules. I mean, I think there's a whole host of not only funding mechanisms. But ways you can set it up. So those will be things that once some key decisions are made, we can explore. Thank you. Dr. Hall. So I'm sure you all did this. But just out of curiosity and I went to my chat DPT friend just to look at current ones that are in Texas. And then their overall rating last year. And like Grapevine Colleyville has one. I University Press. That's a clever name, right? The overall and it talked a little bit about the specifics of the school.

146How's the ISD? I don't know that district. But I'm curious about their vendor and their program and just, you know, some what best practices. Yeah. From already practicing school districts before the legislation came out. Houston had a D. Anyway, there was a list. Did you all? Yes. So the it was three vendors that we've begun and to have very long track records. One has the longest track record. I don't know if I'm allowed to say the name. But yeah, we can. So we're going to bring back, like, say, more information. Yeah. I can say this Grapevine Colleyville to your point. Dr. Hall. They've had their operational. I want to say for at least five years, maybe longer. And we were taught we I thought we talked to them. Before COVID started. Because remember, we had

147a discussion. We did. Things have there are some districts, you know, Katie's been at it for for several years now. So it's just very different when you're working with, you know, weeks instead of, you know, certainly instead of years and kind of the ask and what we're needing is not. We'll put together this. I'll put together this. We'll put it. It needs to be a. Much more tightly coupled system to begin with in order for us to even make the timeline. So three vendors. We've in our group, you know, it's Chris Trejo, Lee and Kid, Jerry Woods, Nicole Franco, Carrie Squire. So there's a group of folks. And so we're in consensus at this point. We've eliminated one. We believe it's beyond. Kind of their scope of what we need. We do have to. Megan

148and her team have been very, very helpful. You know, looking at co-ops and by board and all those kinds of things to help us. So the two that we have it down to. We frankly believe that both can do it. We think maybe one has a slight edge. I think we still have some questions out. But we must decide on the vendor. We. Are going to. We're going to. Have to. Converge. By next week. And also Gravevine Colleyville is only. 13,000 students total. So we're. Because we, because our scales. Well, and the architecture of what we need to do is contingent on. On the vendor, including the marketing and those particular pieces. Thank you, Dr. Jordan. I think that's all the questions we have on this item. So we'll be bringing this back. On the

14913th. then probably subsequent meetings thereafter. And again, if you have questions, if you think through matters, please shoot them our way. Like I say, this is going to be a, this is a new frontier, new journey, which we're excited about. Thank you, sir. And our next item on the agenda is administration. Item A is first reading of DGA. Yeah, you have a proposed draft of DGA, as we discussed last week in the workshop. You'll see, like I say, with the deletion of DGB, we've started working on the language associated with the use of district facilities, particularly for employee support groups. We clarified the trading language. So like I say, this is for your review. Again, this is a first reading. This is really in draft format. And it says action item. It says action. Well,

150yeah, I would suggest if the board is in agreement with this as a first reading with the proposed changes, I would recommend we bring this back as a consent agenda item on the 13th or for further discourse with modified changes or recommended changes. Or vote today. You could vote for today. I say it was reviewed the last meeting. We didn't have this, these changes interjected. So. Okay. All right. Any discussion? Any questions? Mrs. Zapata. Am I reading the right one? The DGA local policy? Yes. Yeah, just redlined. So there's a motion. I motion to accept the policy. We have a second. Okay. We do have one person that has a discussion question, right? Yeah. Well, I have now a process question because we're going to start doing first readings, but we've never. You know, unless

151it's an emergency, we haven't done that before. It's going to put us in a different light if we're going to start doing that process wise. If we're going to take first readings now and try to approve on our second reading. Only because the first reading was really last time. It was just a revision of that and we decided to do this. So it's really not a first reading. It's just a modification of the different one with, because it was redundant language. Well, I'm going by the title of it. It does says first reading. I included it as a first reading just simply because these are pretty significant changes. With DGB, that was a pretty simple one in the sense of, yes, it is counter to our existing DGA, but this DGA as it's redlined, the

152board, you have not had the opportunity to review this policy because it's pretty significantly changed. Now, granted, it's significantly changed based upon our conversation last Tuesday. But again, I think for a second reading, it's not a first reading. It's a second reading and looking at how the board develops policy and that policy. We've brought some policies forward in first reading for your consideration as a result of timeliness. Again, I think that this could be placed on a consent agenda. Since we have deleted DGB, we'll have the opportunity to visit with leadership on Thursday, clarify what is the logic. And then we'll be able to review and review this in a couple of days and then we'll have the opportunity to do that. And then we'll see if there's any other issues that are unallowable because

153even with DGA without the red lines, it that piece is clarified. And again, we had that you have the ability to consider this on the consent agenda on 13th. Ms. Freeman. Yeah, I would agree I. If we go forward with this, I would have to ask what the emergency was. always, as far as I can remember, given our principals the opportunity to either allow or disallow organizations or any type of, they had control over who was on their campus at any given time. Does this, it seems to me that this removes that in that any organization as defined here would be able to have access to the campus and the principal could not say no. And bear in mind, I know that this was, this certainly came as a request from Northside AFT, but this

154is not, this doesn't pertain just to that particular organization. It pertains to any employee organization that perhaps we don't even have on, on, on, involved in Northside. So again, clarification as to whether principals can say, no, I'm, this interferes with what we're doing. And would that principal then have to prove that this, because I, I'm reading this here, it appears that that principal would somehow have to prove that this interferes. And that becomes, that becomes very difficult. My, my, just my thoughts. Okay. Mr. Sonsido. Well, there was a question. Does this, does this policy, the way it's written, does policy the way it's written, allow our principals to just say, no, I don't want any of these specific organization organizations on my campus? Yeah, I think that's a fair question. I still, I believe that

155this provides principals the latitude. Now, that being said, yes, number two, be approved unless it conflicts with safety instructional time, facility availability. That, I mean, that puts a little bit more onus on the principals to discern, well, here is the rationale as to why this is not being allowed. Um, to your point, this is, again, part of the challenge, um, with, um, a limited, public forum that I described last week. I'll give a prime example because we just received correspondence, what, yesterday, Barry? Um, and you probably have read or have seen this. The, uh, governor has solicited Turning Points USA across every high school campus. So I just. And they have an organization. They have such an organization. Am I right? Because I think they, they do have a, an employee organization. Okay. I don't

156know that they have a specific employee organization. I know that, like I say, there are, there's the initiative for student organizations, um, to be established across every, every high school campus. And that's not, that's a little bit different. It's not to say that there has to be that establishment of the club, but that's just a, that's a prime example of, again, like I say, the limited public forum, greater conversation. Okay. Mr. Salcido? Yeah, the only thing I had is I was looking at the agenda here, and that's the first reading of DGA local, and under this is policy type action. So I guess this was an action item that was written. I believe we have a motion on. I would say that that's probably on me. Oh, okay. Considering that we took it from the

15713th, thinking that with the modification, the over- That's, that was the understanding. Right. So that is on me. It doesn't have to be. No, you understood correctly though. That was what was stated. Ms. Zapata? We have a motion. You, you're, you blinked. Yes. We do have a motion on the floor. In a second. So if we follow Robert's rules of order, we should vote. Oh, I was going to comment. Mm-hmm. Go ahead, ma'am. Okay. So I think we just have to remember this is, this isn't a USA, it's not even to be compared to that. This is, these are professional organizations that are in place to support our teachers. I, I think, I, I really do think that we forget that. I, I think, I, I really do think that we forget that. I, I

158think, I, I really do think that we forget that. I, I think, I, I really do think that we forget that. And this is when you're looking at, you know, bringing things to a school to help support your teachers, it, it creates a positive work environment which teachers that feel supported, especially right now in this day and age, it's, it's, it's a special time with all these laws that are, that are, that are coming in play. I mean, you know, we're, we're, we're getting new things. We're, we're, we're getting new things. put upon us every day. And it's tough actually being in ground zero and teaching and hoping that you don't screw up, hoping that you don't do something wrong, say something wrong. It's unfortunate the times that we're in. And so these organizations, these

159professional educational organizations, it's not anybody selling jewelry or anything like that. These are organizations that represent teachers, that represent staff, and I want us to stay focused on that. And I think it's important because our teachers need that support. Our administrators need that support. When you're able to lean on someone to come in to help with, for instance, working with AI, incorporating these new things, trying to stay afloat with everybody else. And it's added help and it's added support for our teachers. So when I hear, I don't know what principal would want to not work with these organizations that, want to help and support teachers. So again, I just, I don't want to lose focus on why this has moved forward. And I hear people say it's AFT. It's me. I'm an educator. And I've

160already shared several times my experience with working with many organizations. And that's who this is open to. AFT, ATP, ATPE, TC. I mean, this isn't just focused on one group. These are professional organizations that are in place to support our teachers, to support our staff. We have a lot of changes coming, as you guys can see, as far as we're talking about online school. We're talking about incorporating all these things. We're talking about things being, like I said, thrust upon us, forced almost to have to put in place. So if this is something that we can give our teachers to help them give that support, if it's something that it's the least that we can do, then I feel like we really need to, again, focus on what this is for and look at the

161positives and move forward on this. So if this, Mr. Salcido, I don't know what your motion was. Wait, Mr. Blunt has one more question. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Be honest. When we did the consent agenda, DGB, it solved the issue in terms of that. So I didn't fully follow the other part. I mean, it's already granted, per se. We're just going through a little bit of specifics on the language given here. The only other question I would have is looking at this new language, and that's why. If the board proves it, so be it. But I don't know. I'd like to look a little bit more because I'm curious if this should apply to other organizations because now, again, we're calling out differently. The idea before was let's don't call it out different. With

162these specifics here and saying, okay, we're going to call these out a little bit different, per se, my question is, wait a minute. If we're going to do that for these type of organizations, should that apply to the YMCA and others that may want to service both students? And I don't know the answer to that, to be honest. I'd have to look at some of the other policies to be able to determine that because it is a different. Dr. Hall. Bobby, I was just going to add, I do think, because I was thinking something similar about like communities and schools providing wellness opportunities for teachers. I think that would fall under support. And so I don't know if we need to go into more details. And just to kind of respond, Karen, when you were

163talking about, I still think this is in the hands of the leaders. Ultimately. It is requiring advance notice. Be approved unless it conflicts with safety, instructional time, or facility availability. I don't know that anything's left out of that. And then, sorry. There's one typo on number four. Time frame should be F-R-A-M-E. But that's just a syntax. Time from. Time from. Nice catch. The YMCA said that. The summit does. YMCA support. Well, I see it as a support. So maybe. It could be a gym. It says support employees. It doesn't say students or other things. It says support employees. Right. Employees. True. Good. Okay. Mrs. Freeman. Just to add, Dr. Harl, about the question. I'm not saying, and I want to clarify my statement. I'm not discounting the importance and the work that any of these

164organizations do. But I am concerned about. Telling our principals that this is what they must consider. And that's it's just how I read this. And that if they decide not to, then I think they're going to have to prove their reasoning. And if we're now talking about additional organizations, which I think they still are able to come on our campus. I think our principals have that should have the autonomy to say, you know, this is just it's. Too many to too many groups that I've had request. And it's very difficult to provide equal access to all the groups. So that's just my point. I'm concerned about our principals. And we're going to be very, very intentional in explaining to principals. You have to, again, protect instructional time, the instructional environment. I mean, that is what

165you are charged with as the instructional leader. And. Is to be that instructional leader. And so there's again, there's going to. Yes, absolutely. Have to be some discernment. But opening the campus to employee support organizations or really any other organization. That's just not the priority. The priority is first and foremost to take care of your campus and students academic needs. And again, we will we will be sure to articulate that. But to your point, Miss Freeman. I mean, yes, you're right. I mean, if it's a continuous carte blanche denial, at some point they'll have to be a rationalist. Well, why? This is a outside of the school day or outside of instruction or a staff development day. It's not interfering with professional development activities, et cetera. Miss Zapata. And then we have to call the

166vote. OK. All right. So we have a first the second motion. So all in favor say aye. Any opposed. No. No. OK. Motion carries. Yes. To two nays. I'm sorry, Mr. Bobby Blount and Karen Freeman and the rest are ayes. So it's been passed with the correction of timeframe place. Yes. And I'm going to make that correction the top. OK. We're moving on to number eight. Superintendent Gold, sir. I think we're on to eight D. Oh, yeah, that's right. Because we did all the sorry. Mike. So we have to make a change here. Go back to the name all facilities. Again, you have the updated CW local. Also, we provided the greater in depth online request forms. So like I said, we just wanted to bring this item back. So, like I said, we just

167wanted to bring this item back. I do want to just mention, I did have a community member reach out to me with just the like requests. So what we have to do is redirect them to the actual form online. They can't just send us messages. They just have to go. So it can be on this one standing document. So if you're listening, I got your email. I'll respond. But we have to go through this process for these requests. So thank you for your information submission. Okay. So we're looking at document number one. It's the local policy. Yeah. So you have CW local. Again, this has been revised. I'll just draw your attention to, like I say, really the first and second reading. If we are, if the board would like to consider the renaming of

168an existing facility or school, we need to, like I say, initiate the process of soliciting feedback input from the community, which we believe we can do pretty easily through a survey process. If we need to host a town hall, we'll have that process. We'll have that ability to do so as well. Mr. Salcido? Is that through a motion? Okay. How are we going to do that? Yeah, I think you can do it through a motion. And then, you know, through formal action, that would, in essence, institute us going about the process of soliciting, like I say, feedback, conducting a town hall. I just, I want to reiterate again, per the board's action, again, we will, we will make sure that we do that. We will make sure that we do our due diligence. But it

169does, it does begin the creation of the stir, as I would describe it. And so I just, in full transparency, just if we go about declaring that, hey, the board is considering renaming your facility campus, it's going to start the chatter in and amongst the community. And do you want to throw? I would, I would mention this. And now that we're speaking of the virtual school, that's not any of these. So we would have to add a virtual school. Let us, let us work to get an object or a school campus code. I'm just saying. The naming process of a campus. That one is not on this policy. It's non-existent. So just for the record. Okay. Mrs. Freeman. Yeah, I would, I, I would, I'm concerned about the same type of thing regarding the stir

170and the community. This board, it's been a long time since we've renamed a school. And the way I understand how the process went and the community was involved, we're not going to get a hundred percent approval from the community. That's not that there may be a majority, but it's, it's not going to be a hundred percent. And then what happens to those people who are, who feel that their, their voice was, was not heard. It's very difficult. It's very difficult with renaming a school because people that's just part of the culture on that particular campus. I'm concerned if it comes from the community and it's initiated from the community and it looks like it's a, a large part of the community, then I, I think that bears further conversation, but I'm just concerned about stirring

171a community, especially when we're talking about looking, we're, we're always looking for support from our community from different things. And if there's something that we create a stir, then that's just, just more issues to overcome for us. The other point I'd like to bring up that did come up last time was, you know, when we are asking folks to, for example, in business world, if we ask you to build ADA accommodations. accommodations if you're a small business it's within reasonable cost right so that cost part is not included here and we want to make sure that it's gonna cost a lot of money that it's not it's not something that we really so we need to mention costs at some point in this policy mr. Sanzito yeah I want to talk about that as I

172believe this you know one for colonies north was brought up by a community member and I refer them to the the webpage that we have on Northside that's that's our that's our process that's how long it's been sitting there we brought this up several times before and and we just keep moving it and moving it forward at one point we're gonna have to either just don't do it and just settle it once and for all or do we just keep moving it forward but if I see colonies north for example we have 14 different nominations and and recognize some of these names around there we got some cabinet members on there too that's on there that want that so I know that person lives in that community but this started out as a request from

173the community supposedly this educator that that passed away lived in that area I believe she taught at another school but just to give you some feedback on that it does come from the community all right let's go to the next question. Mr. Blount. I just want to see if we actually agree with the policy says the process is on just renaming not the specific buildings or facilities that one's a little bit flexibility but renaming says you know as stated request of it shall come through the standard nominating process that's a really important point so you say what is the standard nominating process well it's actually up above for example the elementary school naming process it says the board shall publicly announce its intent to name an elementary school. And now special right opportunity then you

174get the feedback etc. So I don't know if everybody agrees but to me the steps are in this how that give it to you historically how we've done it is first the board as a supertellers just stating is first you get the feedback from the impact of school community. You don't take nominations anything else first you gotta get that feedback then you make that decision okay once you make that decision that yeah we're gonna go forward whether we call these words etc then you look what school is it if it's an elementary school. Then you publicly announced hey we're gonna rename colonies north we now will receive submissions I mean to me that's the standard and that's why I think it states it that way it doesn't say form anything else it states standard nominating

175process. I don't know if we all agree with that or not but that's at least how it's been done in the past and that's why I read it today. Speak now. Okay Dr. Hall. No and Bobby kind of beat me to it that's I was gonna suggest the same thing. Um. I think that's what I was gonna say. That's why I was gonna say that we all agree with that and that the same criteria apply to that except that added verbiage of acquiring feedback from the community I guess. So this would basically stay the same because we talked about it a couple other times when I think there's been I don't want to stir the hornet's nest but there's been some other people who want to stir it. I'm looking at why should that be

176any different than when we name a new school? So other than getting the community involved. So maybe just tweak it just a little bit. If I may. And this is probably stating the obvious. I think that it's one thing for the board to take the responsibility, because this is the board's purview, of naming elementary school number 82. Other than New York City, most districts don't have public school number 82 or 940. So it's a little bit more sensitive. In the sense of you've got an existing name. And then when I say it, we just need to be prepared that it's going to create a stir. And sometimes that's what has to happen with any kind of change. But it's going to be a little bit more personal, is my point. Because there's an existing name

177that's more than elementary school number 82. And so that's where, again. And seeking advisement, really direction from the board before we start that process. I don't, as your superintendent, don't want to create any more stir than we absolutely have to in most cases. And so I just, that's the case. This really needs to be formal action. We want to start that feedback process and the stir, in essence. Mrs. Hibbous. I understand that. I think that's the reason why we're in these positions. I mean, make those tough decisions. And I think we need to move forward. And we just, again, we were elected to make these decisions. And, you know, if we're going to, if it's about stirring things up, you know, that's why we're here. And it's, we need to make those tough decisions and

178move forward. And, you know, put it in place so we can. And it's. It is. And we're never going to make everybody happy. I mean, we know that. You know, and everything we do can touch somebody on a personal level. You know, it, you know, as long as we know that we have our community's best interest in mind and our students and our staff and our, you know, again, our communities, our families. You know, that's why we're elected here. And so we need to. We're going to. We're going to stir. We're going to stir. But that's what this is all about. And we, you know, can't be afraid to do it. Can't be afraid to change. Mrs. Freeman. Just one thing as we talk about the board's intent. And I understand that we've had. Okay.

179So one person or even two people from the community suggest we rename a facility. Then is this board or am I hearing that this board will then go to the community and say, you know, we're going to do this. We're going to do this. We're going to do this. We're going to do this. We're going to do this. We're considering renaming it. If we hear one or two people in the community and you could get two people from any particular school are going to come to us and say, I'd like to rename my school. Then how are we going to enter? How do we interpret that particular request? Do we go back to the community with all of those? Because I think we ought to consider that the number of people involved and in number

180of people involved in the request. So we do. We do have to vote on before we go to our community. We're going to have to vote. My thought in looking at the policy, although it's not specific, we're going to have to vote on whether this board has the intention of actually doing this with even even if you had five people from a school that that has 800 kids or 600 kids. Are we going to go through the process because of those five? Applicants. Okay. Thank you. Those are all the questions so far. This item is just for discussion or action. No, I say if we want to solicit community feedback input, I just need that direction. We make a motion for you to solicit. I need four to take action. Yeah, basically. Basically direct directing

181us to solicit. So this is solicit feedback for the read for the renaming of a specific. College North. A specific school. Yeah, I think that I think that we need to because otherwise we're going to be soliciting input. If it's an elementary school, we're going to be stirring 83 different communities. Please. Let's not do that. Okay. Do we have a motion? A motion. I had a real quick question. Oh, Dr. Harl. So. Do we. First of all, from what we got, I don't know who that person is. I mean, I would like to. Like we can. So we. Well, that's what I'm leading up to. We would. I would need to see like when it's a naming of a school, we have four or five pages of information on that person. And then we we

182weigh it against the criteria that's been set in policy. And then we have discussion. And then people are allowed to come and talk from the community about that person. And so I don't know that we're doing anything different. We would need to have information. If that same form was used about that person, we would at least as a board be able to then kind of weigh and measure it up against that criteria and say, oh, they didn't live in the district. They had no kids. You know, whatever. And we've had some of those where there were great people in the community, but they really had no more side tie in. And then we were able to talk about that right now. And that's probably a wonderful person. And and to me, it doesn't matter if

183it's one person or 100. If that's a great person, it'll show on that paper and in discussion. But right now we don't have that. So I'm just kind of questioning why we would do something different than if it's naming a new school. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think I think the challenge before administratively before Dr. Harl is we haven't solicited feedback because none of our 83 elementaries or any of our campuses, for that matter, even have any notion that the board is actually considering renaming the campus. So for us to be able to solicit feedback and or additional nomination. So we really need to specify Colonies North. We really need to specify Colonies North. The board is considering renaming the campus. So this is an opportunity to provide feedback via a form and

184or survey to initiate that renaming process. I just my question is we don't have a renaming process. So going and soliciting is like to me, we're jumping ahead when we don't have a policy yet. So that's where my question is. So that's what I thought we were going to come for renaming. Yeah. It's at the bottom of it's at what? It's at the very bottom of that. Okay. So hang on because that lacks specificity. So it says request to rename an existing school shall come through the standard nominating process. So we refer back to what's up there. We haven't gotten the standard. And if the board is to consider renaming an existing school, it shall first seek feedback, first seek feedback from the impacted school. And then we'll go back to the community. All right.

185There you go. My bad. So that's the policy. I'll go with my nomination. Gotcha. Pardon me. Ms. Guerra. Gotcha. This item, it was for discussion only. There is no action next to this item because you haven't had a chance to really talk this one out at all. Okay. The request was to bring back this one with all of the data from the reports that everyone had submitted so you would know. But can the board, can they request? Yes. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Can the board request that the feedback start or not yet? It's posted on the agenda. The board can take action on a regular board call board meeting on any agenda item posted. Okay. Legally. Yeah. Ms. Zapata. I have a question. So this is in policy. I was confused. I thought it

186wasn't in policy. This is in policy. When did it come into policy? It says 9-23-25 was the last time this was looked at. Okay. Yeah. So I can speak to the history a little bit. This conversation began in the building committee. And as we started talking about the potential of renaming a facility, we felt like that we needed to really clarify some of the language in the policy before we initiate the process. So to Mr. Salcido's point, earlier point, we went about looking at this particular policy. Really clearly. Yeah. And really cleaning up specifically the renaming of an existing school. Okay. But then also to ensure first and second reading language. And that's what, like I say, was formulated out of really the result of a policy or, excuse me, building committee, which we were

187able to, like I say, get to a point of here is the revised policy, as you see, dated, updated the 7th of 25. Okay. I see. Thank you. So I guess my question. I don't know if that answered the question. No. My question is when. When did this come into play? Like the date. All these have dates, correct? Yes. So you'll see 10-7-25 was when it was issued. It was put into our policy? Yes. As we took action. Updated. So it's in policy. It's always been in policy. These are the updates. Now we're just taking action on the submissions, applying through policy to go through the policy. Next. Moving to the next step to all these nominations. Okay. Mr. Blunt. I think. Thank you. I know we're all talking a lot tonight, but it's all

188pretty important. Again, what David, Cecilia, is what I think the step would be, not to advise it, but, you know, listen to what Dr. Kraft and others are saying and what our policy, I think states also, is maybe the first thing that would happen is you have to request for Colony North, it has to be specific, date. It has to be specific to be renamed and start that process. That leads to the first question that I have is why are we renaming Colonies North? Because that's where we're going up as a community and other type things. So it can't be just, hey, we're going to request this and expect it to happen. Usually we have a very good reason on why we want to rename a school. Not because we may have a good person.

189I'm telling you this, I got a list of other people that once we start that, if we do, I've got some other names, man, I get through, so be it. But I do have some other names, et cetera, to consider. But the first step is why are we renaming? Any of these schools that we're suggesting being renamed? And that's what we've got to be explaining to ourselves as well as the community. I guess my question is, is then why did we put this in our policy? I mean, why did on 10-7, I mean, obviously I voted on it too because I was here already. Why did we put it in our policy if we weren't going to take anything into consideration? We've done it before. Okay, so the reason why that one was picked is

190your question, right? Why did Dr. . . Do NOT state that one specifically versus the other submissions or what? My question if we're going to get to the dialogue, if we do go that far, is why we as a board are deciding that we need to rename Cowley's North, separate from it getting a submission? What is our reason? Well, it's not a request. That's not that we got to have a . . . I think if you go into the actual form that Monica gave us, it has the reason on there. the reason on there right let me see if I can find it so the google form submissions is this is the data the result the output from this excel spreadsheet that she's she compiled the data on this 49 page document of all

191of the folks that have been submitted when it was first brought up at a building committee was so many schools were getting new looks I mean we were building cafeterias we were making the whole school and somebody brought up oh that was like a new school it's kind of like that was why we started looking at it as far as changing the policy as far as I think uh Westwood Terrace had a whole new different look on it we brought that up too so Dr. Kraft said well we have to go to the policy and see that was that was how this whole conversation started so and then we we brought it back and then we got nominations again there's several nominations in different uh schools it's not only colonies north but colonies north seems

192to have the majority of the I think there's 14 of them under that's the reason why colonies north is being brought up okay Mrs. Freeman um yes I don't have my having difficulty trying to look at some of these um is that um was that the school that I I know that there's several here for colonies north for different people but the submission person was the same person um so we I mean we could go over each and and and I guess the question then becomes so let's say we go through this process and we decide not to name colonies north after this person that was submitted there's nothing prevent this person then if we're going to honor all of these requests this person is going to say well okay so let's let's see if

193um this other community is in favor so I mean that's what I would that's what I would do if I was nominating somebody and really had a passion for renaming a school I would say well I'm going to name this school and the board said okay no after you went through the process no not this school well okay well maybe there's another school um I just we've just got to be careful about about renaming schools about stirring up the community especially when and we've not been shy about talking about going to our public and asking them for our support for perhaps either a bond or a Vader do you want to to because I will tell you that I I suspect we could have and I don't know this for sure but people that have

194gone to the school their parents have gone to the school their grandparents have gone to the school and they're very attached to that particular name to Colonies North to Colonies North or to any or to any school I'm pretty sure we had some for Lackland City they were fond of and I think uh I did some research I think Shenandoah was named after Houseman too so that's so just looking at like some of the submissions the person has been nominated by several different folks right same nominee name and the person nominated has been a counselor for 50 years at another school at a different school retired from a different school so I guess to your point though to I think Dr Kraft and I had this conversation a long time ago we want to do

195a due diligence and do a background check on people because and then there was this thing about post humans they are alive folks like what are we going to do because they still have time to make mistakes in their life and then do we give them a name and then we'll what we're going to do with that so we had those real like genuine authentic conversations so we want to think through that but she's deceased right so we do a search on the nominee and then do our due diligence I think I mean going back to our policy is that what the board is asking to do today and so we can move on because we've got it's already nine o'clock and we were supposed to start our own birthday my question is what are

196you suggesting then what would be a suggestion or what would be a suggestion then as far as like procedures here if I made yes definitely please this is really what I need if the board wants to take action and and really directing the administration myself and our team to solicit feedback to a specific Community IE colonies North please take formal action uh or not uh in doing so and then we'll start that process and again I'm not trying to convolute but I just I don't want to be um your superintendent that is stirring things up that wait a minute we never talked about renaming a school because it is a big deal um what are you doing Dr craft so so that's what that's the direction really I need or not um in going forward

197um because right now we've talked about a lot of things publicly but we have not specifically said as a team we want to start soliciting feedback for the potential renaming of XYZ campus okay all right Dr Hall I I think going back it's in our policy so I would suggest that that you go ahead and solicit feedback um because it's it's in our policy it says request to rename an existing school shall come through the standard nominating process so you're saying that those names on there have gone through the standard nominating they met those criteria all of that and if the board um if the board to board is to consider renaming an existing school which that's what we're talking about it shall first seek feedback from the impacted school community so like through a

198survey I guess or the letter I second that okay and then Dr Hussle that was that was a motion we have a second Dr Hussle has a question comment um I mean well uh technically it wasn't a motion oh yeah yeah she was just saying David David had an original I'll second David's motion. Okay. If I may, we need, again, we're in a mode of record votes at this point. Mr. Salcido, let me make sure I understand. Your motion is to begin the solicitation of feedback for the renaming of an existing campus and that campus being Colonies North. Yes, sir. I second. We have a call to vote. No, no, we have a comment. My comment has just been my concern. Like, right, is the cost. Like, what is the cost of renaming? Because we

199are very low on funds. But then I also want to take into account, like, you know, we do have community members asking. And I feel like as a community member, I would at least feel right, even if the answer is no, that we are not going to name them. That we are at least listening to them and going through the process and taking into account that they've submitted these requests. Like, at least as a community. I would feel better knowing that my voice was heard and not ignored since, like, 2004. So that's my, like, two cents on that. Thank you. Mrs. Freeman? Just one other piece. You know, we have a lot of policies. Just because we can do something doesn't mean we should. And Dr. Hasso's comment about why would we want to go

200to the community to solicit information? We don't have all the information. Like, how much is it going to cost? Do we go through that process first? And I would also, there was another comment. Why was it named Colonies North to begin with? I know it's the neighborhood in which the school is in. We might want to go back and look at, go back to the school because the school has records of naming. We may want to go ahead and do that as well. Is that part of the feedback? Rather than. Rather than. And this is a public meeting, folks. So I'm sure Colonies North will be. Tuned in. We'll hear the, yeah, they will certainly hear that we're getting ready to name it. So I'm sure there'll be comments. But I, this board can also

201say, even though we have people that want to name a school, this board can still say we don't have the intent of renaming that particular school now. We can. We can. Right. So we still have to requesting this. We could still stop that process or not continue. Do we want to start that whole process? Because we're going to get, we're not going to get just this name. We're going to get other names from the community. And so we're then we'll have to sort through those. If we don't have the intent after we find out more information, if we don't have the intent to rename, then we should not go to the community to to request more, more. In. Put because we're going to get it and it'll be it could be we could have 50

202nominations that we would like. Mrs. Zapata. Okay. Yes. And thank you. Mrs. Zapata. No, I just I don't know what else we need to move forward. So we have a motion a second. So we do have the votes. If I may. We're just starting the process. The the associated cost. We can we can run the physical facility associated costs like a new marquee, new lettering. There are going to be some intangibles as well. Letterhead and things that just over the course of time. I mean, I will say I can easily say it's going to be north of $50,000 just as a result of marquee and lettering. How far north we can try to run the best estimate possible. Definitely. But my next question is we'll cover the cost for that city for Allen. Who paid

203for the name change. We renamed Allen and then talking about cost is going to pay for it. I mean. Lackland City. The name change. We probably did, right? Yeah, the district. But I don't know. Yeah, I don't know how much. And then, of course, years ago. I remember that the entire community came. It was it was a large group of people. But okay. Yeah. I don't remember any opposition. I don't remember any opposition. I don't remember any opposition. I don't remember any opposition. I don't remember any opposition. I don't remember any opposition. I don't remember any opposition. I don't remember any opposition. I don't remember any opposition. Okay. So we have to do. We do have a motion in a second. Mr. Blount. I'm sorry. Last last comment. OK. Yeah, I just because actually the

204process begins with this board determining whether or not we should go for it. I mean, we don't have to automatically jump to it. We've got this. And then if we have a reason why the board says it doesn't make sense that we get back to the citizen and make the request to let them know that per se. I think we got to be careful just because we get requests that we don't say that part of our decision making. And that's why we're up here is to weigh it and say, is this the proper thing to do at time or not? Or we let the citizen know why or ask for more information, et cetera. So I want to point that out, too. I do want to I'm sorry. One last thing is I'm really concerned

205about I know any end of our jobs, educate kids. We all know that. But I hate for us to do this to the staff and the superintendent because they are they're going to catch it. I mean, because. This so be it as far as a vote. But this is something I don't think we should put them through at this particular time. And I'm going to tell you, like someone will say that if we do go through, I'm going to tell you, there's some we're going to get a lot more of these per se, a lot more with the rationale we're using currently. So, Bobby, do you have another motion, a different motion because we still have to vote on? No, that's just got to vote. I don't have one. Oh, it's going to be. I'm

206not going to support. Was that your question? Kyle. All right. So we have a first first. Motion second. And then all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Nay. Okay. Motion passes with the negative knee. We need to get a record. Is it blind? No. And Karen Freeman, no. And the rest of the board, yes. No, I didn't say either. Oh, you didn't vote. You abstained. I'm abstaining. I need more. Okay. And the one I abstain at Carol Hall. So that's a one, two, three, four. Four. Four, two, one. Is that our first four, two, one? Is it board? It is. Okay. Okay. We will go about the notification and solicitation of community input. Our next item on the agenda is board operating procedures item E. Only changed since the last time you reviewed was

207the addition of travel costs associated with NELEO. Okay. And this one is for? Action today. Final proposed final 2526. Okay. Ms. Dr. Hasso. So are we going through, since it needs a five-person vote, are we going through each item? Because I know I don't like approve all the changes. Yeah. I think the last conversation we had is please send us feedback after reviewing. So it's up to the board. Again, these are your operating procedures. And I know we talked about taking scrupulous notes for changes. So the changes you can see are the markups on the last item that have the reds. These are the changes, Dr. Kraft, you received from the board members? Well, so this is the latest iteration. The changes that are in red and you see the comments are the changes that

208were in the last item. Okay. So the changes that were recommended as a result of our team of eight meeting, what has been added since Tuesday was the consideration, like I say, for the inclusion of? NELEO. NELEO. Thank you. Okay. So. I think that's on, I'm getting to it. Do you have a? It's on page. But this is the third reading or is it? Oh, I don't know. I've lost track. Okay. There's not really a reading. This has become a living document. Page seven. Page seven. So, yeah, the final, I think you should see. Okay. So my question? Yeah. I'm sorry. It's just not read. Oh, on the final. So the one that you're going to see, the initial markups that we did from the workshop are from the last item. So one of the

209initials that we did from the workshop are from the first meeting. Microphone. Sorry. Aww. Give me a working mic. 25, 26 markups are the initial suggestions y'all had that we worked on. The revised 12.2 is the one in red that'll show that I add the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed. And then the final is all in black. So, I'm sorry. is all in black that shows that transition if you approve it. Okay. And then, thank you. Dr. Hasso, go ahead and let us know which ones you didn't agree with. I think that would be the next step right now, and then we can make a motion. Yeah, that's what I was trying to figure out. Like, is it either we're accepting the final revisions or we're voting against it? You can make a

210motion that you would approve with these changes, and then we would second, and then we would vote. Oh, I'm learning about amendment, I guess. It can be an amended vote. Yeah. There's kind of a lot, so I'm like. If there are a lot of proposed changes, again, we can open another window for feedback to send to Monica and myself, and we'll take another stab at it. Do you guys want to move to continue to look at this? I don't know if everyone had a chance to look at the e-mail suggestions that were inputted in this document. I motion to give them. I'd like to give more feedback on it. Okay. Mrs. Freeman? I think this document is the same. We've had it here for two or three meetings. If there's a question about whether to

211vote on the whole thing or take it apart, then I think we take it apart now. I'm not sure what's going to be different. Then we just vote on the changes up or down and discuss them. That's just my thought. Okay. Any other? We have one motion. Does anyone want to second that motion? Well, I don't know if it needs some. We just want to extend it. We can postpone this agenda item to give more time. I think Mrs. Freeman is suggesting let's just go through it. My suggestion was to just go forward and look at the changes and vote on the changes. What are your changes, Dr. Hossow? I mean, is that what we are agreeing to do? Do we need more time? I think just for the sake of time. Is this something

212that, I mean, I motion we give more feedback and bring this back. Okay. Next board meeting on December 3rd. When is our next board meeting? January. January 13th. Oh, man. 2026. Next year again. How many years has this been in the works? So everybody just submit their own. We've already done that. We've done that. Yeah, I was like, I just didn't, like, there were some that I just didn't. But then I knew you added stuff, so then I was like, oh, okay. But then I'm like, well, like, now it's. Okay. So just for the grace of time, we're going to revisit this in January. So send revisions to Dr. Kraft. Dr. Kraft. Yes, please. Email your any final. Notes. Okay. Got it. Thank you. All right. All right. Now we're going to be moving to

213letter F, our code of ethics. This is our final revision or not review. And if we approve, then we can sign it and send it back out to the community. Yeah. You know, again, similar to operating procedures, this has been an item that we've been pushing. Like I say, it's. The team of eight code of ethics. Um, it's for your consideration. Do we have a motion? I motion that we move forward to sign. Okay. Okay. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? So 100%. Oh, this is our first 100%. Monica. All right. The motion carries. And now we will continue with our Northside ISD code of ethics as stated. Thank you. Uh, now we're moving to G for future agenda items. Uh, you. Again, it's hard to believe, uh, January 13th, 2026. Uh, we'll

214make that amendment on the, um, attachment. Um, the big one that I just want to bring your attention to is, um, outside of the building, um, items, uh, associated with consent agenda or, or excuse me, facilities and operations. Uh, rather, uh, we have some, uh, uh, uh, important items associated with building. Uh, the first item is associated with business finance to include the act for, uh, it's actually ahead of schedule. Uh, Megan and her team have done a really, a pretty phenomenal job. The, uh, auditors, uh, are, uh, finishing their review right now. Uh, it's looking like it's a very, very good audit, uh, once again. So we'll bring that forward, uh, for your, uh, consideration, potentially a budget amendment, um, as a result of, uh, ADA and enrollment. Uh, we'll bring that forward, uh,

215for your, uh, consideration, potentially a budget amendment, we're going to provide a fiscal year 27 budget planning, uh, overview timeline. Um, we need to bring forward this, uh, update, uh, policy update 126. I know that, uh, we're enjoying policy so much that we felt like let's dump another 1500 pages on our trustees. Oh, wow. We're getting really good at this. Here's how we're going to do this. Um, a lot of it is actually legal policy. So we're going to provide, uh, update 126. Uh, in Friday letter this, this Friday, legal policy, just as a reminder, you don't have the ability to modify change. So the local policy is where we're going to spend the vast majority of our time reviewing because there are local policies to include DGBA, as I've mentioned, uh, that are being

216proposed as a result of this update. We're going to try to break this down, uh, and work through it systematically as much as we possibly can. Dr. Fay has put together. A 31 page, uh, PowerPoint slide presentation, and we're just going to work through them. There will be some legal policy that we just want to highlight and make sure that you're familiar and aware of, even though you don't have the ability to dictate or change, there's a chance or a strong chance that you likely will be asked at some point. I'll give you a prime example of one that we're currently working through that just went into effect is Senate bill eight. And that's the, uh, utilization of restroom and changing facilities, et cetera. So again, uh, we're going to try to hit the ones

217that we feel like are potential hot buttons with legal policy and then, uh, move on, uh, to local policies. Uh, if you will, please, uh, over the course of the next month, take, start taking a look at and digesting, uh, update one 26, um, because I've mentioned this before it is, it is a policy update on steroids. Um, literally 1200 pages, uh, 13, 13. Okay. I'm trying to make it sound a little bit better. 1300 pages. Is this a workshop? Um, no, this is not a workshop. It's called meeting. So, um, so like I say, that's a big one. Uh, the district optimization, uh, this is going to be an update as to where we are, uh, looking at, uh, efficiencies, as we've already mentioned, particularly in preparation for, uh, uh, bond, uh, and or

218Vader, uh, conversation. Um, and then just a reminder, uh, evaluation, uh, my evaluation, uh, also on the 13th. Dr. Kraft. I may not have the legal ready to go by this week, but I definitely am targeting next week so that y'all have it over break so that y'all can review. Yeah, I know. Come on, Faye. Pick up the, pick up, pick up the slack a little bit. Uh, we're working because that'll give you some time, um, to at least ask questions. I'll. Okay. Okay. I'll get it to you as soon as I can. It's just that there's a lot there and I want to make sure I do a good job with it. So we get the cliff notes version. I'm crying over it cause I'm so excited. And like I say, the 13th, uh,

219I mean, we'll just, we'll work through as much as we possibly can knowing that we may have to bring some of this back. I mean, it's, well, you'll see, uh, soon. It's a lot. Um, and then like I say, we'll add, uh, the education. Foundation update and other items we discussed this evening. On that, um, the, what we get from Dr. Faye, is that going to be something that's already going to be filtered through our lawyers? Legal policy is legal policy. So there's TASB legal has already been very instrumental in, in, uh, working up local policy as well. Uh, so again, TASB legal is the entity with policy services in essence. They have, uh, we've been in contact. Okay. How do you want, what is your practice? Uh, and how do you, how do you

220foresee the board wanting to see this policy written? So local policy, depending on the changes that you recommend, those will have to go back through a legal review before we can bring them back and act on. It'll be coded. So you'll see, uh, for example, DGBA legal or DGBA local. Um, and then the policy manual update, they do a pretty good job of disseminating legal and then local policies. And what administration, all the division leaders, including everybody on senior staff is doing is going through their specific areas at the moment, make any type of edits that make sense. Um, we have the ability to make those red line edits ourselves, but we will probably take that to our TASB rep prior to even bringing it to the board for consideration. And then based on that

221conversation, there could be additional iterations of local policy. So, um, I plan on providing a deck on that, uh, so that we're not just reading, you know, 1300 pages or actually just about 150 on the local side of it. So, um, but it'll have all of the edits and things like that, um, attached so that y'all can preview those. And I think I will have that ready to go in the first week that we get back. And so I wouldn't even mind pushing that out a little bit ahead of time, um, before we send it out. Okay. So I'm going to put that out in board agenda because it's, it's pretty lengthy. Thank you. Dr. Hossel. Um, my question is just in this finance, like portion for future meetings. Is this the meeting that we

222get the updated below $15 an hour list? No, we, we were going to bring that forward in January, but with our contract with TASB to do our salary study, we decided we were going to wait for that. And that's coming. It's salary study. We, Dane, I think indicated we, he should have a preliminary draft by March. I want to say it was March. We can bring the list. Yeah. Just like a list of where we're at. Cause I know this last time they were able to be moved. I just wanted to make sure that, you know, is this a good time to kind of get, um, because we can. Yes. The short answer. Yes. Okay. We can bring it. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Mrs. Freeman. I'll retract my question. Okay. Mr. Mrs. Zapata. Okay.

223Dr. Mr. Blunt. She's retracting. We're going to use Robert's rules. I was just going to point out, um, there is one action sometimes or one step we do take with legal policy at times. If one is so bad or needs to be changed, we actually look at our priorities, resolutions and abilities to meet not only with the Bexar County School Board Coalition, but also TASB to say, Hey, we all should look at this and see if we can get this changed in the future. So that's one thing we do do with legal policy. Good point. Like the resolution. Okay. All right. Um, can I ask for clarification, sir? Is that something that you're wanting to consider in the legal update this time? No, because y'all are pretty busy. I just want to make you aware

224of that. Okay. Yeah. We can do later on. Yeah. Okay. Moving forward. All right. Okay. Well, the board is not going to go into executive session in accordance with Texas government code section five, five, one Oh seven, one through five, five, one Oh eight four. No action will be taken in closed session and any decisions that will be made when the board reconvenes into open session. The time is now nine 30. One. And we are going to go into executive session. It's now 10 13 and the board is reconvening into open session. No action was taken in closed session. Recording agenda items discussed in closed session. Is there a motion to come before the board? Nobody. Dr. Harald, Dr. How I move. We approve the, um, positions as presented in executive session. Thank you. Mrs.

225Freeman. Second. Okay. And so, um, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you all. And hopefully you have a happy holidays. It is now 10 14. We're going to adjourn the meeting now.

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