001I call this meeting to order. Mr. Montoya? Present. Ms. Aspas? Mr. Sowell? Ms. Haskey? Myself. That's three. That is a quorum. We will begin. I've asked Mr. Rodney Arment to lead us in the pledge, after which Mr. Novell will offer an opening prayer. If you'll all stand and remove your hats, please. Rodney, hurry. everyone if you can bow our heads please heavenly father thank you for bringing us all here together this evening um just from all regions from the district lord newcombe shiprock nash chitty shiprock kirtland and oho lord thank you for just the collaborations we get to do with our students with our teachers and staff lord thank you for these meetings to just collaborate and to always work together to create student outcomes that bring achievement and success to the district, Lord. I
002pray that you just move through us, move through our minds, move through our hearts. Speak to our heart, Lord. May we have healthy conversations, Father. May these conversations give you glory. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you. We'd like to welcome all of those who are in the audience and who are online. All guests, we appreciate your... Presence either here or virtual and glad you're a part of this. Item two, consent agenda review. Consent items, if you'll take a minute and review that, board members, and we'll have a vote. They were posted on board docs for anyone to review. So then, Mr. Chair, I make a motion to... We have a motion to approve the items on the consent agenda. Do I have a second? It's been moved and seconded that we approve
003the items on the consent agenda. Mr. Montoya? Yes. Ms. Aspas? To better serve our community, we should at least give them, excuse me, we should at least give them that, the list. that's on the agenda. I know it's on BoardDogs, I know it's on the website, I know it's there, but then here, the audience that's here, present, physically present, they should be able to view that list as well and then go back and if they want, view those items. They're all okay. Yeah, yeah, so. So that way they have an idea of what when we do say we're not even reading on the consent agenda item two fully. So just for transparency and just to keep our public informed. Let's go ahead and move forward and ask Mr. Noble as soon as he can bring
004that up to post it for us. Mr. President, I vote yes. And I vote yes. Ms. Hasky? Okay, the consent agenda has been approved. Moving on to, I'll briefly read over that. I'm not going to read everything, but I'll briefly read over it so they can have an idea of what we've just approved. The one I'm saying to read fully is number two, item two. Item B? Item two. I'll read it. All of item two. Consent agenda, review consent items. No presentation will be provided for these items. These are routine matters. Applicable documents have been provided in board docs and posted with the agenda for board and public view. So this item, you'll have to go to our website, our board docs, to view if you want more information. But it is listed on the
005agenda items. Okay. That was all. Thank you. Moving on to three possible questions from board on consent agenda. A, possible items removed from consent agenda. Do we have any? Mr. Chair? Yes, go ahead. I don't have any items to pull. I just wanted to make a couple of comments in regards or add some. Very simple questions that could be answered I believe About a few of these items on the consent agenda. You know I had on but I'm okay as far as everything without pulling anything as they stand so I make a motion to Accept what do you wish me to ask the questions to get them? All right? It's been moved that we can that we accept the consent agenda as as posted do I have a second i can i can check that
006motion it's been moved and seconded we're going for a roll a roll call vote mr montoya yes miss aspis yes i i did want to hear the procurement over 60 000. uh the list okay it's just a listing let's see how do we do that so am i are we asking to have that pulled I just want to hear the list. I don't want details. I just want the list of what we had in the month over $60,000. Mr. Armenta, can you provide that for us? I believe it's Dominic. Mr. Cittania. Mr. Cittania, I'm sorry. Rodney, I didn't mean to put you on the spot. Vice President Wells, board members, superintendents, Mr. Carlson. The PO's over 60,000 were for Cooperative Educational Services of New Mexico. district-wide fire alarm inspection. It's for the amount of $80,000,
007$80,023.40 is listed on POs over $60,000. And then we also have a list of purchase orders between 3,500 and $10,000. There's 15. One is for Riverside assessments for curriculum and instruction for $5,714. This is related to gifted expenses. Johnstone supply of Albuquerque, which is related to food services for $4,877. These are condensing and evaporator air defrost. We also have a purchase for High Desert Equipment Sales and Service, which is related to grounds for $10,000. This is for the repair of heavy equipment. Bank of America credit cards for ICO departments related to McKinney Vento supplies for $5,005. Salina Bookshelf Incorporated. for ICO for an amount of $6,250. This is regarding supplies materials for reading. We also have Bank of America cards for ICO for $4,050. This is related to professional development for Ed Uprising Conference. We
008have San Juan School District Media Center for ICO. This is an expense of $8,256 for supplies and materials for reading. We also have another Bank of America cards for $9,500 for ICO. This is related to student traditional outfit supplies. R.L. Cox Company for ICO for the amount of $4,425.58. This is for supplies and materials for traditional attire. We also have a Bank of America card for $4,094.64 for Kirtland Central High School. This is related to Cheer Santa Fe. We have Bank of America credit cards for Kirtland Central High School. This is for $5,400 related to BPA state competition. We have two for Swift Community Schools for both for Kirtland Middle School, one for $4,400, another one for $4,000. These are both related to professional development for fellowship leadership. We also have Happy Numbers Incorporated for
009Newcomb Elementary School. This is for $3,570 for an ELA platform. And last but not least, we have Abney & Sons Construction. This is for Transportation's Department for $7,757.22. This is related to an annual line leak testing. Okay, I lied. The one for the... the Navajo outfits, what was that? I can't speak to that other than the information that's been provided. If we have a representative from ICO, they can speak to the specifics of that purchase. Cheryl Bonoli is here from ICO. Thank you for board members Christina Aspus and board members so and Mr. Superintendent so the traditional attire is so we had the grant from Johnson O'Malley and so the majority of the funding is going to support high school seniors at all three locations for supplies and materials to make the Take your hand
010away from your mouth I was eating so sorry. So we have funding available for this project with Johnson O'Malley in order to provide the regalia for the high school seniors. And so the supplies of materials we have seamstresses that help us with those initiatives and we have a project to get this lined up by October is our deadline. So that's what the, so to supplies, you know, we have to go buy the material, the zippers, all the components of what the seamstresses need. And so, as you know, we got a limited funding for the Johnson O'Malley grant. So that was our priority is to make sure that we take care of our high school seniors. And we have limited opportunities for each school. I think we have maybe at least 10. with the budget that
011we have is to be able to provide that. And from what I understand is that there was another allocation provided from Johnson O'Malley, but those are going for the books and supplies materials for the dual language programs. Is that subject to, what do you call it, RFP? So we have done this project. This is going to be our third year doing this project. And each time that we have, we have the justifications in place for the supplies and materials. And the only grant that really supports that is the Johnson O'Malley. So we haven't really had anything. So a part of that is that it's written into the ed plan with the Johnson O'Malley grant. And so the IEC, the Indian Ed Committee also supports that. So that's how that's funded. Well, I understand the funding,
012but is it subject to RFP, to procurement? The amount is said something like 4,000 for. No. Okay. All right. Thank you. You're welcome. I'm going to go back to our roll count vote. Thank you. Mr. Montoya. Also, I believe with that and the fact that nothing's being pulled that would take us down to the action for the consent agenda am I correct item for a Actually, the motion has been made and seconded and the vote is occurring Yes, sir. We voted voted to prove the concern agenda as I recall. All right I just wanted to make sure just for clarification for the audience So that's what we're at was on them before some of the vote is yes Okay, mr. Ashburn. Yes mr. Soul Yes. Ms. Haskey and myself, yes. We would like at this
013time to recognize students in the FFA and their achievements at the livestock, at the fair. Mr. Chair, just again, the question was just to clarify to the audience and those people listening that we didn't leapfrog over anything. We did go through the process and adhere to the process. So I just wanted to make that clear for the audience. We're good. Thank you. While everyone's getting ready, I'd like to introduce Eva B Stokely. We have her in the audience. She used to be a former school board member and also principal, and one of our schools was named after her. While the kids are getting set up, I'll just brag on them for a little bit. Kirtland FFA alone garnered just under $200,000 in prize money this last Saturday. And when we added up Little Brothers, Little
014Sisters, we were right at $250,000 and that money is still climbing as people can still add on the rest of the week, I believe. I didn't add up every CCSD student, but we're looking at CCSD students, I would guess anywhere over 400 to half a million dollars in winnings. So they've done extremely well. I'm going to have our reporter come up and list off a few things that we did, but I wanted to brag on Kirtland FFA as well. put in an application for National Chapter Award Program. We were selected as one of the top seven chapters in the state of New Mexico, and we just got the results back. We're a two star out of three stars chapters nationally. So the top 10% chapters in the entire country and territories, we're about middle of
015the pack of that top 10%. So we're really excited about that, but I'm gonna turn this over to Kylie and then Miss Lake to go on and talk about a few of our winnings. As a reporter of the Kirtland FFA, I would like to thank our board district admin and the Kirtland Central High School admin for supporting the future of agriculture. Many of you all... Vice President Wills, members of the board, Superintendent Carlson, we are live. As I was saying, Grand Champion, Grand and Reserve... County Red Hog, Grand Champion Market Poultry, Supreme Poultry, Champion Junior Poultry Showman, Champion Senior Poultry Showman, Rabbit Herdmen Award, Reserve Rabbit, two class winning steers, Reserve Grand County Bread Steer, Grand Champion Heifer, Grand Champion Senior Cattle Showman, Reserve Champion, Reserve Champion Junior Cattle Showman, Reserve Champion Senior Lamb Showmanship,
016and Champion Senior Goat Showman, Champion Junior Goat Showman, Supreme Goat Showman, Junior Hog Showman, Reserve Junior Lamb Showman, Reserve Junior Round Robin, Reserve Senior Round Robin Showman, Champion Junior Round Robin Showman. Reserve Champion Junior Horse Exhibitor, Reserve Champion Senior Horse Exhibitor, Grand Champion Waterfowl. Thank you. And I'm going to turn it over to our reporter, Samantha Shorty. She's going to give you a little bit of brief. So I help with the Kirtland, but we do not have this many showmen. So we do have, we had... Sikari Frazier has left to go to NMSU as she is starting her freshman year in college. She had two steers, a fifth and a seventh, I think. And then she had two goats placing second. We also did very well. So this was the first year that we have
017what we call FFA indoor exhibits. So we have, there's usually 4-H indoor exhibits and we have an FFA student from Aztec High School who is doing her SAE project on indoor FFA projects. So quite funny, but it comes from Aztec. But Shiprock out showing them in the indoor exhibits where we had all of the projects except for two that came from Aztec. So we... Their prizes were knives, handmade pocket, or not pocket knives, but handmade knives. I made sure that she did not bring the knife on campus, so we would not get in trouble for that. And then they gave out a senior buckle, and the senior buckle went to Sakari Frazier. She was the only senior that submitted projects. And then we got, I'll let Samantha tell you what she got. And they got
018plaques, too. Oh, and Kirtland had one. That was my child. He didn't have a choice. Just kidding. Hello, everyone. Hi, everyone. So this is my first year ever doing county fair, and I got the reserve white face for class. No, it wasn't a class. I got the reserve re-champion for white face. My goat, I had a goat as well, but he got third place for the, what was it called? For the indoor exhibit, I got first place in the SAE, SAE AgriScience and Leadership, Leadership events. And I got a plaque for overall in CDEs slash LDEs. I got second place for that. And that's all. Thank you guys for coming to the fair. Yes, and do you have any questions, comments? Comments. God, I don't know how many times I've said this. It's just amazing
019what motivation does. Motivation emanating from the educators to these students. It's proof positive. It's all standing in there. And I'm going to tie this a little bit later on into the board meeting when we start talking about some other things. But the possibilities are endless for our students. And it takes educators with passion, desire, and a commitment to really motivate them to do what they do. And all of you are a shining example of that. So congratulations. I have a photograph. I would call it a plaque. And I don't know who to give it to. So I'll just show it to all of you. And you can take a look at it. Nobody told me that. I'll keep it with pride. Thank you. Yes, I just want to say thank you to the ones that
020coordinate and really help our students. And I know it's not easy, but it seems like it gets better and better every year. And during some of the radio ads that I heard, from Cortez and I mean, they could not say enough good things about the livestock and FFA and they just kept bragging and it made me feel so guilty for not going. But thank you for everything that you do and with the students, your animals. I know things are getting really expensive to where pay, I mean, it's just outrageous. And just the care and upkeep, I can imagine. Thank you for for taking those things on and keeping with it some of its family. You know it's generations I know these From upper fruitland you know they they've been showing rabbits I think you guys
021had rabbits before and and so I know it's a generational thing and Just keep at it and thank you for allowing our students to compete and be a part of that. Thank you. And we greatly appreciate you guys supporting our programs. We are proud to support the program. And these awards, these ribbons, these trophies. are examples of, and buckles, are examples of a lot of work and dedication. I have a granddaughter who raised a grand champion goat at a fair in a different county. And I know what the dedication and determination it takes to raise a grand champion anything. You're to be commended, both the officers, the instructors, and especially the students who work and perform in order to represent CCSD, represent themselves, and as this shows here, San Juan County, you're to be congratulated.
022I just want to say thank you, congratulations to the FAA. This is definitely one of the programs, based on what we've seen, is a program that's actually having a positive impact, making a difference in all of our schools, all across the district. Thank you to all the teachers, administrators, and students who make this program successful. And I think our support is also shown by some of the items we also put on the agenda that shows a further commitment to FAA. All I got to say is just keep it a great work and bring home more awards. Thank you. Keep the good job. I had a student that also wanted to say, Kirtland had almost every champion, and we actually forfeited the extra prize money to take those animals to State Fair. So we have multiple
023kids taking those animals on the State Fair, and that's very, very competitive. There'll be... five to six hundred head of sheep and only one in a class makes the sale and last year we had two make sale and it was very exciting so we're hoping to go down there and be very very competitive again we have students competing at the Navajo Nation Fair in Window Rock and I guess two weeks from today and then Shiprock Fair will be at the end of the third weekend in September and so if you miss the county fair come out to Shiprock Fair it's going to be a great time and we need buyers so if anybody would like to buy an animal we got a lot of them for sale so. And the Shiprock Fair is actually a
024weekend, two weekends before the actual Shiprock Fair. So the Shiprock Livestock Show is at McGee Park a couple of weekends before the fair. Oh, okay. Yes, the 18th and 19th is our show, and then we sell on the 20th, and it will be at McGee Park in the Swine Barn. Thank you and congratulations again. Looks like our superintendent has something to say. Just real quick, thank you to the FFA, all of our sponsors, especially Mr. Webster. He's only been here a short time, and he now has national notoriety, which is amazing. And thank you to all these guys that some of them went through the... judy nelson elementary i don't want to brag on it but i've known some of them for years they're amazing kids and being being someone a child who raises livestock
025all these kids have responsibilities and duties that make them into amazing young people and then adults so so i mean this is something we need to bring more kids into our district to be a part of this and if you don't mind after everybody first off everybody give him a big round of applause amazing and if you don't mind just taking a couple minutes we have some folks in the back who can't see any of this so if we could just leave this here for just maybe two three minutes the folks in back if you want to go ahead and stand up you can go ahead and say a couple things we'll just put this on pause for maybe two minutes you can come take a look and ask a couple questions real quick but
026if you want to take a look at this if you can't see it come on up this is about half of what they actually want And you can take three minutes if you'd like. I want to say something about bringing, coming and buying animals. Take two checkbooks. My daughter's goat went for $4,000. Granddaughter. Record-breaking sale this year thanks to a lot of people in our community. Now it's probably over a million dollars, but there is a hundred we have to qualify for the sale and it's very very hard to do so all but two of our students from Shiprock and Kirtland made the sale and It was about nine hundred and fifty thousand dollars and we had a girl from Kirtland that sold a pig for twenty four thousand dollars there was Yeah, we had
027two other $27,000 pigs, and then there was a $31,000 steer. So our community really stepped up, and this doesn't go to the school. It doesn't go to our program. It goes straight to the kids' pockets for their future in college. I just have to add to that because this doesn't happen on its own. This doesn't happen in a vacuum. Somebody has to have that knowledge. Somebody has to transfer that knowledge. There has to be someone willing to accept that knowledge, utilize that knowledge, and then just grow that knowledge. That is, to me, the definition of educational excellence standing in front of us. So congratulations to all of you. Thank you. Thank you. Students, real quick, if you could just leave it right there. Go ahead and leave the display there. If we could also have
028our students all wrap around behind the board members, behind the stage, and we can get a group photo with them, that would be fantastic. Thank you all. Thank you. Thank you. Clean up and now the turkey. Actually, the top two buyers are curtain buyers. oh The next item is for comments. Sharon, are there any comments from the audience? None. Move on to item seven, reports from board members. I just... Wanted to iterate what I have what was mentioned in the work session about attending the community meeting in Farmington in regards to Yossi Martinez as I've said before What was done and what was said is really rehashing for the school district with respects to the funding issues that We face not just as a district but our students in the underfunding from both, quite frankly,
029the state and federal level. So there was a good opportunity for a lot of people who have not heard of these issues to be educated and to know that they actually do have a voice. So that's my report. Thank you. May I? Yes, go ahead. I attended that meeting at Sycamore also regarding Yazi Martinez. And my feelings is I really wanted to attend and I really had no clue how it was going to turn out. But to me, my opinion alone, I feel like we're taking a step back. They went to court. They found that it's not being complied. across New Mexico, so they have until October 1st. And so the PED end up hiring two contractors. And now the contractors are getting familiar, and I guess it's put in their lap to make sure
030that it's Yazi Martinez is carried out. So I feel like we're at a standstill again and that things are just moving backwards. But it was mostly attended by educators and even former educators. Ms. Stokely was present. And I was glad to see our admin people because it's not just in the classroom, but it's overall everything. and the response, some of what they received. I don't know how they're going to compile all of that together, but they're supposed to have other public meetings in other regions in New Mexico. And so it would be interesting what they come up with. And I just feel like... Why did they reach out to two other contractors? There was I think people were already within ped or you know even the Indian Ed Secretary for state of New Mexico they
031could have carried it forth and but anyhow It'll be interesting where where that ends up again and And then there was a young lady that attended. Her name is Alyssa. I don't remember her last name. But she's always in the mix of things. And, you know, one of the lackings that we have is broadband, is Wi-Fi, is Internet. And today I saw her post. There was supposed to be another community meeting regarding broadband service. And that's been canceled. And it alarmed her, and I was, and quite frankly, I agree with her. You know, we're trying to, since COVID, since Bill Clinton last visit, presidential visit down here, I don't remember what year that was, but. you know, we've been trying to overcome that divide and or make that connection with the rest of the world
032and it's not going anywhere. And so anyhow, so that meeting's been canceled. So we'll just see what happens from there. And then I try to share most of this message from... over at Nina Hunzad Chapter. And I asked the members there how many were familiar with Yazi Martinez, and only one could raise her hand. And that person was from Capacity Builders. And so I think... We got to do better and getting that information out on on what it what it is what it entails and about Yazi Martinez because it's it's a very and I like the words that Superintendent Carlson used in his weekly video. It's historic and it's a historic win and and And I agree, if it gets up and going and the way it should be, the way Judge Singleton had a
033vision of it, I think it's gonna be great for our students and our state. Thank you. Thank you, anyone else? I just will cook I was actually able to provide input at one of those similar forms and the information was a really good good conversation discussion input but my take on all this is um as much as the state can try to do something come up with a plan a large part of this also falls back on us as a district though what we can do what we have control over what's happening within our schools what we have control over in our district or classrooms and so forth Because to me, we can wait on the state and we're gonna be waiting forever. So a lot of this stuff, like to me, like the findings
034of Yazoo and Tita's, that also falls back on us as a district to take action ourselves and not wait for others to come up with these plans or solutions, but really just take action on our part with what we have control and influence over. So with that said, one of the biggest piece of input was information that's been provided with our stakeholders and district and that's the start. And that's showing that we're starting to see results, improved outcomes with our test scores and so forth. So it's showing that we're on the upward trend and I hope that our district is really looking at a lot of these things and making decisions that hopefully reflect what is best for kids. But based on the test scores data and information that we've been receiving, it shows our
035district is starting to take that initiative, to take action rather than wait for someone else to figure something out for ourselves. So with that, I just want to say thank you. And hopefully we'll have more people involved in some of these forums and sessions. Thank you, board members. Next, Mr. Carlson, superintendent report. All right, I have, as listed on there, I have several types of reports. The first one is student travel. I believe I only have one of those, and I'll just mention that real quick. It's an extended field trip for Kern Central High School. For the FFA officer training at Bernalillo High School, the sponsor is Mr. Webster. The mode of travel is the ag truck. It's going to require about $180. The funds will be raised by concession, dining meals, and animal sales.
036And that's the only trip I have. It's the FFA from Kirtland. I have quite a few fundraising request forms. I'll go through these as quickly as I can, but make sure I get through all of them. Also from Kirtland Central High School, the senior class of 2026, the activities for graduation and related activities, they're projected to earn $4,000, and they're going to be selling at Kirtland Central High School home games and on-campus dances. They will have fry bread and Navajo taco sales. Also from Kirtland Central High School, The juniors and seniors dance is the prom dance, of course, and they will be raising for that. And the projected amount there is $5,000. From the Army JROTC, the activity is the JROTC car and bike wash fundraiser at Four Corners Indian Motorcycles. These will be planned
037events in September and April. in the amount to be raised is $5,000. This one here is a fundraiser for the softball team, Curren Central High School. The activity benefits the students by community involvement. They will be earning $1,500 by having an online fan gear store, local store donation, concession, and fry bread. For the Curren Central High School volleyball team, The name of the activity is Kirtland Central High School Concession Stand Sales, Fry Bread Sales, and Kettle Corn Sales for 2025-2026 KCHS athletic events. The projected amount to be raised is $1,000 to $500. For the cross-country team at Sabaton Middle School, they will have a popcorn concession. And that will be, the amount to be raised there is $300. And the location will be at TVA Middle School. Also from Cebedaw Middle School, for girls basketball,
038they will have a popcorn concession. And that should raise up to $300 to purchase banquet awards. Again, from Cebedaw Middle School, actually several more from Cebedaw Middle School. From the Unity Equity Council, there is a popcorn concession stand that is projected to earn up to $500. For the spelling bee at Sabotage Middle School, they will have a concession near the gym to improve vocabulary and memory retention that will raise $500. They will be selling items at the concession during sports games as well. For the chess club at Sabotage Middle School, A lot of activities going on at Sabot Middle School. If you're from TBA, make sure you bring some cash when you go to the games. They will have a popcorn concession stand, and they will raise $500. Sabot Middle School. Cheer section also has
039a concession, and they will be selling at Sabot Home Games, and they are projected to earn $400. That's for the students to be able to compete at competitions, purchase cheer gear and equipment. From Cebeda Middle School, these are all from Cebeda Middle School, the Diné Club organization will be selling at the TVA home game concessions to help with school activities and they will be projected to earn $1,000. Also from Cebeda, the Diné Club will have a fry bread concession. that is projected to earn up to $1,000. Cebeda Middle School, the cheer team, will also have a fried red and Navajo taco sale to earn up to $400. I believe that should be for Cebeda Middle School, but I also have a couple more. From Nuka Middle School, the organization is a cross-country team. They will
040have a treat sale. Students and families will donate items for the treat sale, which will be conducted at the Skyhawk invite. at the Newcomb High School track to earn $200. The money raised will go to end of season awards. Also from the cross country team, a food sale. Similarly, students and families will donate items for the food sale, which will be conducted at the football games in the football concession area. The money raised will go to the end of season awards. They are projected to earn $500. Also from Nuka Middle School, cross country team has a food sale. Students and families will donate items again and sell at the football concession area and money raised will go to end of season awards. They're projected to earn $500. And I believe, there's one more, Nuka Middle
041School Unity Council. We'll do some concession selling as well. Unity Council members will be selling concession food during home games, and they are projected to earn up to $1,500. Also, Nuka Middle School will be a food sale at the football game on 8-26 versus Zuni at the Skyhook football field to help purchase Falcon gear for the team. That is projected to earn $500. We are getting near the end. I know that's an awful lot. Hopefully, three more. We have some donations, three donations. The first one, the donor is the Salvation Army, and they will be donating to the Safety Net program, school supplies, to the value of about $2,000 for distribute to McKinney-Vento students and at-risk students. The Whole Kids Garden Grant has granted Curlin Elementary School $4,500 to start and help develop a student
042garden. That's a cool one, right? And the American Geophysicist Union is donating $2,500 to start a school garden at Nascity Elementary. They will have a cornfield and traditional arbor down there at Nascity Elementary, which is pretty neat. And that's all I have. Thank you. Any comments from the board? Thank you, Mr. Superintendent. We'll move on to eight reports. And A on that, update on strategic plan by Jermaine. Hi, good evening, board members, superintendent, and our staff and great participants. So Board President Haske asked for a quick update on this. We have just actually entered into an arrangement with, what is it called, equity, Belinda, equity, what is that entity called again, equity, the equity audit, Embracing Equity. So they're gonna do an audit, which should be ready by the end of September. And so what
043we're gonna do is incorporate that into the strategic plan, which will be ready in October. so that's the quick update is that your report yes sir okay any questions from the board we probably weren't paying too much attention that too but my apologies so we are incorporating an equity audit and that equity audit is going to survey i believe it's eight schools to figure out how we're doing with equity So it's really a Yazi Martinez equity review. And what we're gonna do is incorporate that into our strategic plan, their findings and recommendations. So across the district, you're auditing. Linda will have much more detail on that. Why her? I mean, your name is on the report. My name is on the strategic plan, but I'm not heading up the equity audit. So there's... The equity
044part's not the same as the strategic? It's doing an audit to see how well we're doing in the district with our equity initiatives. And that's a separate consulting group? Yes. Mm-hmm. Called. All right. For that one, we'll just add equity. Embracing equity. Thank you, Peter. It's an initiative with PED to further implement Yazi-Martinez. I thought it was... we were on the understanding of not putting money into when we were talking about strategic planning. This is a separate initiative, so I'm just incorporating it into that so that we have all of the relevant information in the final version of the strategic plan. Anything else? Well, that was my question. As a board, I thought we weren't putting... I'm surprised that we got a contractor or separate. I thought everything was gonna be carried out by yourself.
045My understanding is this initiative came from PED and so I just wanna make sure that with what I'm doing, I include all of the best information. By PED. This initiative. Just guessing based on the conversations I've had with Berlinda, but my understanding is that this initiative came from Ted can we see the Our can that be sent to us the document or paper for that? Superintendent I believe I can get that from my seal Okay, any other questions board members? No more questions. Thank you Next we have an update on program supporting Career Technical Trades for High Schools. I'm Mr. Deswood. Good evening, board members, Mr. Carlson, colleagues, guests. I guess they all left except these three young ladies. So I will be giving the CTE, we call it CTE just for short, Career Technical
046Education Program of Study. So, Ms. Westbrook and Ms. Lee really have been working on this. They've actually been writing the grants for CTE next gen. And, yeah, they've been doing an amazing job with this. So, what CTE does, did you want to pull it up up there? Okay. All right. So, a lot of the requirements, you remember four or five years ago we did the We surveyed 1,602 families, communities, students for the graduate profile. So if you look at what they wanted in the graduate profile, this almost directly aligns with those requirements. So what we're trying to do is, oh, there it is. Go to the next slide, yeah. So we're creating college and career readiness. Students that are college and career ready is meaning not just traditional, you're going to go to college or
047university, but we want students to be ready for trade school, military, college, university, and also job ready. So like I was saying in the graduate profile, they wanted real world skills, 21st century skills. I think there's a new name for them. soft skills. Okay, courses considered CTE in our district, agriculture, family and consumer science, formerly home economics, carpentry, JROTC, business information, and then also practical skills and knowledge that will be used in specific career pathways. So there's actually, there was an inventory that was done. In our area, we have these focus areas that we have to focus on. Like we can't compete with other areas because this has been our focus. So the programs of study, going to go to the next page. So culinary, foods and service, agribusiness, military, national security, construction, skilled trades,
048carpentry, teaching, training, facilitation, business information management. construction skill trades, welding, information technology and support services, physical health. So whenever they wrote these grants, they're specifically aligned to these programs. So funding goes directly to support creating these programs. Actually, I think we used Title IV a couple years ago to retrofit welding, am I correct? And also the program at... EVA B, not EVA B, TBA, Sabatel Middle School, to revive the carpentry program there, the woodshop. So we use a combination. We try to braid the funds to support. Oh, turn it off. It's reading, too. Okay. So we try to braid those funds to support these programs. For example, like FFA, right? We use some title for last year to support the support the kids on some of those competitions a couple years ago We also use
049title for to support Jeremy. We had a robotic national champions pink two or three years ago Those are the funds that we use so going to go to the next slide So enhancing skills and education. So education and training. So pursuing additional courses to obtain certifications. Skill development, both sharpening both technical and soft skills. Notice how there's a lot of skills, right? There's skills that are specific in each trade. For example. welding, not welding, but electronics, right? So we can start coursework so that students can possibly pursue journeyman programs, okay? So that's how, like they'll have, Supplies, like putting together circuit boards and stuff like that. Beginning, understanding building beginning circuits and stuff like that. So lifelong learning, continuing education to keep up with industry advancements. So remember how previously we presented the CNA program,
050right? That's a part of the pathway. that we support. So then, by the way, I was told that one of those students that, remember last time we said two students had passed it and there were two that were awaiting? Well, one of the students actually went back and actually passed that CNA. So we had three out of the four. So, but we, you know, just a lot of that support is there. So there's courses that have to line up. the program study has to line up so for them to be able to take those cna classes they had to complete a dual credit class so literally from um middle school, on high school, on through college, we have these programs of study so that kids take like electronic A or electronic one, electronic two, electronic
051three, and then possibly electronics dual credit. So then that's a program of study that we're kind of looking at. And also on the job training, I do remember Mr. Carlson and Jared, there was an email that was sent through from the PED about work-based learning. So what we're trying to do is kind of like a capstone is when kids go through these pathways, whenever they're seniors, they can do a work-based learning internship. So that's that on-the-job training, which, by the way, was an important component in our... graduate profile whenever the families were interviewed. That was one of the things that they wanted was they wanted to be able to intern in the field that they want to pursue after high school. Also dual credit opportunities through San Juan College, Navajo Tech. We actually also have
052some others like AIAI. There was another one in Santa Fe. I can't remember the name of that one. So making sure that all of these courses are aligned in sequence. So go ahead and go to the next slide and you can see the number of students that we have in the various programs. And the locations are also on there for where students will go. For example, we can't have like competing programs at each high school. Like over here at Bonn-Wilson, we have eight welding booths, right? But at the larger high schools in Shiprock and in Kirtland here. They have one or two, maybe three welding booths, but to have eight students in welding booths, that's why this Bonn-Wilson was retrofitted to accommodate that pathway. And a lot of times these fields, those kids, when they
053leave there, they go with SkillsUSA. They have a credential which puts them a step above any of the other students from other high schools with those SkillsUSA certificates and can go right into industry with those certificates. So they put that on their resume and have one step ahead of other applicants. So these are the programs that we have. Any questions? That concludes the CTE program of study pathways. Questions? Go ahead. Superintendent, what specifically is the district doing to sell a program to the students and to the families? Because I had heard that at Shiprock High School, when they had it, it was just announced over the intercom, but there was nothing on Facebook, there was nothing in the media, there was nothing on the radio, nothing that was really... trying to push or sell these
054programs. And I mean, it's one thing for us to have the dual credit programs where you take college classes for an associate's degree, but we know that a lot of students may not decide to do that. So we have to provide other opportunities, and this career training, technical training, should be that outlet for them even sooner than later. their education starting in junior high and I've said this time and time again about kids who are mislabeled misunderstood when it comes to education classified when really it's the way that they learn or what they want to learn and the fact that they're not being connected with and that ability that they have is not being found so therefore they get mislabeled And I think a lot of these technical trades could possibly address that and catch
055them sooner or later or make them productive because there was a at the National School Board Association They had a school. I believe it was from Rhode Island and a couple years ago they said their participation rate in their Career technical training was about no more than 15% of their student body Within two years that it was close to half of those kids Were in some kind of program when they were graduating they were graduating into literally 20 30 40 dollar an hour jobs Those are the kinds of things that we need to do especially where we are and going through that graduate profile I know we have welders and what we had here earlier in the agriculture and Dealing with the raising the animals. I mean we're knocking it out of the park obviously
056national recognition, but some of these other things. And when you look at the disparity up there, Shepard High School, Newcomb High School, in comparison to what's occurring in Kirtland. I've said this before as well. I think we need to go back and expand that into every high school and then try to catch them even sooner in junior high. And I'm glad they're doing what they're doing at TBA. But again, some of these kids will decide sooner or later that they're not going to college per se. but they want to advance into a trade electrical plumbing we've already said welling we said carpentry um auto body those types of things that they can actually use their hands to earn a living and earn a really good wage and my other question to be superintendent how much
057of a buy-in do we have at the high schools throughout the district Not just with the principals, but with the counselors career readiness Coordinators, what are they doing to attract those kids into these programs? To get them down a true career path path that will help them Not just in the very near future, but for the rest of their lives I mean, that's that's something that I would like to know and I'm certain the board would too because It's it's discouraging to see that disparaging difference between one school and the others What are we doing? What are we not doing? How are we doing? This is district and again we talked about this with that advertising board here in Kirtland Farmington coming in and putting a big old You know advertising board in the middle
058of our community, but what are we doing? to negate that To stop that to grow that to provide more opportunity For students that that's what I would like to know and this is again. This is all fine and well People have gotten their eyes crossed and their tears do what they're supposed to do utilize that grunt money money how it is But I'm looking at it on the ground in the classrooms in the school buildings. What are we doing? to truly make Not just the students but the families aware that there are opportunities for them and their career technical trades that we could provide and possibly expanding that So there's probably multiple answers to your questions Those are mostly done at the school level Although at the district level we have announced what we have
059as far as CTE programs. I've mentioned them on my own address. And it's something that all the kids that go through the high schools have a counselor who does career planning with them. And for those students who are wanting to have those kind of classes, they are all given those opportunities. Now, as to how much we're broadcasting per school, I'd have to call each of the high schools up or ask them about it. Mr. Desmond might have a better answer than me on that one. I don't know if you want to add to that. Yeah, if you look at that, right, it looks a little disparaging, but if you look at that 65 kids out of 200 kids at Newcomb High, So that's, you know, it's a smaller school, so it's actually a higher percentage
060than Shiprock. But one other thing to take into account, too, is, like, these are the ones that the public education department approved for us to have based on career interest surveys. So, for example, we can't just go and start a mechanic program. because there's already a mechanic program in one of our neighboring districts. We also can't do plumbing as well because based on the, based on, there was a need analysis done last year and based on the careers within our region, these were the ones that our staff, including high school principals and our team, identified that would be suitable for our kids based on the career interest surveys that they take. Mrs. Westbrook, did you want to provide what the CCRs and the counselors do to recruit kids? Good evening, board members, Superintendent Carlson, and
061thank you, Assistant Superintendent, and hello, everyone. We actually have done a coordinated effort with the schools since we took over Bonn-Wilson last year. Because Bonn-Wilson actually is a program under Kirtland Central High School. I'm not sure if you're aware that it's not a separate school. It's actually a program under KCHS. And over the last year, we identified weaknesses. And when the grant was up for renewal, we actually did a targeted effort to include the middle schools because CTE starts in the middle schools. And so, which is why now you're seeing the numbers for KMS, TBA, and Newcomb Middle School. And what we're trying to do across the board, across the district, is to grow the programs in each of the schools. So with that being said, the numbers that you see right now are, this
062is first year data that we have incorporating the middle schools. And how we've aligned each of the programs of study. is that we want to build and grow in each of the regions their CTE programs. And so this was actually an effort across with the principals. for all regions at the high school and middle school level. We've involved them in conversations. The money allocation has been distributed equally throughout each of the schools so that they can grow their programs. And I think it's a really good reflection when you look at the numbers since we're able to provide this this first year. The other is that we are looking at the barriers that how are we not reaching the students. We've actually met with the directors saying that here are some of the barriers that we
063see. This is what we need to knock down because myself I am a you know a huge supporter You know with KCHS students I believe that they have the choice of being either college right and that's what I tell them actually in my addresses Either you're going to college or you're going into the career or you're going to the military, you have a choice. These are your options. And so that's actually spreading with our counselors when they meet with them, our college and career readiness people. I can honestly tell you that we've had the Bonwilson teachers go into the schools to do marketing and recruitment. during our open houses as well as our student-led conferences because they have that little bit more flexibility so we've actually scheduled them in there for six times now over
064the past year so we're making a we're trying to make a an effort to not only reach all the students but also to grow the programs within the schools and i hope i answered each of those questions if you have any more i'm more than happy to answer Super, our vice, you're saying that we only get the leftover trades? No, we get to pick them, but what happens, they look at what goes on in the county as far as the industries that are in our area. So one of the top ones, if you look at agribusiness, look how many kids are in it all the way across, right? I mean, if you look at our programs, that's why we have what we saw today because of... you know, when kids are in eighth grade, middle
065school, they take these career interest surveys. So then kids would do these surveys about what they would like to be when they're adults. So that's where we see that, you know, we have to take that. We have to match what the kids say they want to be doing. And I think they get, what, six to seven options to pursue. So then we have to match that up with what's available within our area. because what they want to do is they're trying to expand the to provide feeders for like welding to go to shops in the area like PESCO. Two or three kids go to PESCO and go on with them. Like I said once they have those certificates they have a leg up because they have that SkillsUSA certificate in addition to some other certificates
066that they earned while at Von Wilson. If I can just add on that. So the way that it works is the state identifies what our regional priorities are. And from there, we get to choose. Once they tell us this is what we'll fund, and then you can choose your priorities from within your area, that's how the funding's allocated. But as far as the completers, they have to do an introduction course, they have to do a concentrator course, a completer course in order to complete their programs. And I can honestly say that this is year we're probably going to have about 10 completers and we have four in the welding area that are going to be doing internships we have two in the i.t that are going to be doing paid internships two in the health
067and then i believe the other two were either in business management the military and national security is brand new but honestly with the work that our students are doing we'll have at least 10 completers of these programs this year So, like the example you gave about mechanics, and so Farmington gives a mechanic, I think they have a whole shop, and right there across the theaters, and so because they have one, our district can have one. Is that what you're saying? It's all based on the priorities and also the student interest surveys. So they take a combination of the two and they kind of don't want to have competing programs near each other. So they're fighting for kids. That's what I mean. We're left with the leftover trades. And instead of something meaningful, plumbing is a
068need. So it's mechanic and... And I didn't know that that was how it was done. That's ridiculous. And especially when you're talking about reservation, Nashtiti and Newcomb, you know, 40 miles out. where to get something, instead of helping within their own community or within their own family, maybe just a little background in mechanics or electrical or plumbing, they have to go into Farmington or Gallup. So, I mean, I can't believe that PED would... set it up that way. We should be allowed to do whatever we can. And then with what Board Member Montoya was saying, how are we getting our students or even our parents informed and spotlighting these? you know, what we have to offer as a district instead of losing them because we're, you know, if one student wants an automotive mechanical trade,
069then guess where he's going? Or her. No, that's, if I may, that's a really good point, and that was the whole. Pointed me saying what I was bringing up that again our hands are being tied and the hell with local control to be able to determine the educational outcome and opportunities that we provide our students the state's determining that and I get the point of the surveys and doing You know the statistics all that but still I Guess that's to say that the people out on renovations are diminished because they have an outhouse. They don't need plumbing or a plumber That's what I would say to the state, not to you, but I'm saying that to the state. So to me, that's the bias that they have at the state of New Mexico and the
070PED to determine what we need. Excuse me? That's asinine. It really is. To say that our kids don't need to be electricians or don't need to be plumbers because, or McCants because they have one in Farmington, so we send everybody to Farmington. So that's the problem that I have with that. And I'm really glad that I asked for this because now the board knows and sees and understands really what's being dictated. And I want this district, the five of us up here, to determine that direction and those opportunities that are created for our students, not Farmington or Santa Fe. Right. If I could add some more, Board Vice Chair. I think the thing that is important is like... like Ms. Westbrook said, right, the CTE Bureau determines the priorities for the regions, and then for
071these to be funded. Right when we write the grants those are the priorities so what we have to write is based on our priorities and also our on the career interest service so one of the likely what possibly happened is there weren't a lot of kids that said oh I want to be a plumber I want to be an electrician I want to be a Mechanic right because it's all based on student Interests, so of course I mean the district could take it upon themselves to use operations I look at Well, I think it goes back to, and I'm sorry I disrupted you, but I think it goes back to even, I'm a product of CCSD, and back when I was in Shiprock and later on went to finished out school here in Kirtland, I
072didn't know what I was capable of. I didn't know I was lacking. I didn't know we were in schools that lacked. So for you to say that, that fits. And if we're not going to say nothing and do nothing about it, then the students will never know what they can be. Yeah. Thank you. Hello, my name is Kristen Simo. I am one of the teachers at Newcomb Middle School. The students in my class will take the career inventory as part of San Juan College. It's a platform. We actually log in, the kids log in, and they will take that inventory. And based upon that inventory, they will actually have San Juan College plan. A trip, well, there is an opportunity for the students to go to San Juan College and they have badges with the
073areas that were their greatest interest and they visit those places. I'm gonna mention something that I think would be very powerful that goes along with what you're saying. I recall at the last school board meeting, there were some needs with our housing. maintenance, grounds. If we had students who were part of programs that were addressing the needs of our own campuses, my house was actually built by trades. And if we can actually have kids who are going through the programs that can address the five-year plan and the needs of our communities, especially on the reservation, I think that's even more powerful. If they know that they could work during the summer, work with our operations and such to learn trades. So I like to bring that up because it keeps on coming up as a
074need for our kids. and I think there'll be greater interest if they knew they had a job with CCSD. Thank you. Yeah, and that instead of going along with the system, at some point we're gonna have to get up and voice and fight for our students. It's getting to that point and Like I said, we you know went back when I was in school. I didn't know what I was capable of and and that's why when when There's a movement to shut down Businesses here you know and it was only through those businesses that I got an opportunity to get a trade and Take advantage of their apprenticeship But now legislatures are saying to and mandating that, have that offered in our schools. But to hear that the restrictions they're putting on it, that is
075totally crazy. And I think with the... with the board here, we shouldn't even comply with that. We should be, we have a whole facility up there, Bonn-Wilson, and take advantage of it and offer those courses. If I can kind of add to that too, and I appreciate the fact, again, that you've highlighted the fact that the determining factor for the funding However, I certainly would say and I've said this time and time again, that's the importance of the grant writers and the ability to attract that money so you can provide those opportunities in different areas. Be it two kids that eat school or five, whatever it may be, people that want to be the plumbers, people that want to be electricians, they don't know until you expose it to them. That's not a world that
076they're interested in unless they're exposed to. It's like going to a restaurant. And I get up and eat McDonald's every single morning and didn't realize there was a Denny's across the street because you've been conditioned, and in this case by the state of New Mexico, to determine the outcome and opportunities for these kids. That's nuts. It really is. And so again, superintendent and quite frankly to the board as well, I mean, that's the challenges for us to... expand those opportunities for students and for those people like Miss Aspas who didn't realize that now was a certified electrician. Who would have thought 40 years ago that that would have happened? Or any, I've seen young women that are outstanding welders. Some are better than men. Equipment operators, talk about smooth hands and being able to operate
077that equipment or CDL operators, those types of things. And the reason I say operator, that's what it takes. You're not just driving the truck, you're actually operating that unit today. The computer systems that are in there, what it takes to actually functionally operate that big rig, it takes a special kind of human being. So again, it's incumbent upon us to be able to create those educational opportunities and really the point being is find those kids that we know have not fully determined their educational path, whether it's going to be in a four-year institution or higher or if they're going to be really open to the possibilities of some kind of trade. I think the number I had told the superintendent, seven million vacancies in industry today. Seven million. These young men and women here from
078this area, they're outstanding craftsmen. Let's find that craft. Let's provide that opportunity for them. And to hell with the PED, with all due respect. And I do want to share this, you know, with those kind of skills, You know, when I got my certification for electrician and I went home and my mom was always, you know, complaining that when she comes into the house, she has to turn on this, turn on that, and how she wished a pantry wasn't in the middle of the room and how light could come on. So one weekend, I tore down the pantry. and wired up a fan and a light in the living room. And she was just amazed. And she was saying, I didn't know you could do that. And, you know, just the, your living, you know,
079how much that could go back into a family, into a community, you know, just as Simo has said. And then even within your own family. to upgrade or renovate. So I think those things are important. And also your military numbers and the fact that Shiprock, we no longer have that. What are we doing in Shiprock? So the last... I recall is we could not find a certified retired Marine personnel to come and teach the courses. Am I correct, Mr. Carlson? That's correct. So are we, I mean, I'm wondering if it's possible since that can't happen and are we taking it upon ourselves, say, to take a field trip with them? those students that are wanting to the military office. Do you mean Curlin, Shiprock or anywhere in the district? Not to my knowledge, but Ms.
080Westbrook might have an answer on that too. So on that one, since this is the first year actually that we were able to get the military pathway on here, we've started discussions with our staff to maybe move this program up to Vaughn Wilson so that Shiprock students would be able to participate in it as well as a leadership completer course. So that way it would expose them or they'd have the opportunity to go into some form of military service having that ROTC leadership. But we're still in conversations on that to build that because our numbers are obviously high. Shiprock, I know, has the numbers. It's just how we're going to make it work at Bonwelson. Okay. Thank you. All my questions are answered. Anybody else? No, but again, thank you for enlightening the board in
081regards to the lack of opportunities. I do, when you have a chance. Go ahead. With the ROTC program, I know that we were trying to find a retired Marine to be able to run the program, and at Kirtland is the retired Army. Is there a possibility? I know that we wanted to keep the two different branches. Have we looked at that option also? So from my understanding in conversations about that, that the schools, they have the separate branches designated to them. We can find out more information because I said, why don't we just start a branch there in Shiprock? And I was told that whatever agreement that the Marine Corps had with Shiprock, that's where they had their buy-in and then ours was with the Army. But I'm sure that's conversations that we can ask
082and explore to see if those would be possible options. If I may. If they dissolved the Marine Corps, I mean, why should that give them carte blanche on that area and take the earliest opportunity to provide the options for the students again? Because if we don't have anybody to be able to teach those classes and can't recruit anybody, that would nullify their opportunity. Just bring in the Army if there's somebody available. No need to stand there waiting for them. My thought, too. And then second question, well it's not a question actually. The ODY, the Office of the Nail Youth, they do a trip and usually in the summer they recruit students to go to participate in the Devil Dogs, Devil Pups. In San Diego, is that advertised? Are you aware of that? Or has that
083been advertised at our school or anything? I can speak for Kirtland Central High School. We do advertise it. They also have one for the teachers as well. I can't speak for the other schools, but I know at Kirtland Central we do. Okay, thank you. Any other comments or questions from the board? Thank you. Thank you. Moving on to C, human resources, vacancy listings, new FTE created and need for filling vacancies. Ms. Amron. Good evening, everybody. I have some copies that's coming your way. It'll be on the screen shortly. Here we go. These are the positions that we currently have on the website that we're advertising. And then towards the end, I put in some of the far right columns, if it's a new position funding and then the LTS off to the side is whether
084or not it has a long-term sub. So we'll just start at the top. We have a social worker position, and that's with the special education department. And we also have a social worker position with ICO. Those two are still vacant. We have three new coach MLSS, multi-layer support system. Those three positions are grant funded, and those are new positions. We also have three math coach positions, and those two are new positions, and those are grant funded positions as well. We have a senior IT tech position and a district testing coordinator position and a facilities coordinator position. Any questions so far? I have a question. Would those grant, may I? Sounds like it. Sorry. With the positions that have been created that are going to be paid for, funded by the grants, is there, how many
085years is the grant? And once that grant expires, how are these positions going to be funded? Thank you. So right now, they'll be funded by a Title I carryover. And then after that, if we have to, we can. possibly use regular Title I. Did that answer your question, President? It did, but it also, I'll formulate my next question, thank you. Okay, all right. The next section is the elementary certified. So we have a dual language position at Eva B, and that one does have a long-term sub. We have an art teacher at Judy Nelson with a long-term sub. a special education teacher at Mesa with a long-term sub, another dual language at Newcomb L with a long-term sub, and a pre-K at Njone. That is a new position and that's Grattan funded and that also
086has a long-term sub. So any questions for that group? Just real quick, with the dual language teachers at EWB and also at Newcomb, what are the challenges with filling those positions? Licensure, I would say, is the primary. They need the 520 and the regular elementary certification. Yeah, so they need both licenses. The dual language. Oh, okay. So it's just the Navajo part. So with those two, we did confirm with the principals, they do have pending interviews next week. So they have scheduled interviews for those positions with the teachers. And we have been, Dr. Begay and I have, or actually Dr. Begay has been really keeping up with those potential applicants. Okay. Any others, any other questions? So based on the information that's presented, all of our classes aside from these ones are fully staffed with
087licensed teachers, correct? Or in process, yes. Okay. Yeah, so we do have a few positions that were on the list and the people are in the process of getting hired and onboarded. So then they came off the list. I have a question. Yes, ma'am. So you were talking while the question came up about the grant funded positions, say the MLSS. And I'm just, and it's a one year grant. And then you said that the salary was gonna be taken from Title I as well? That's correct for year two. So how come you can't do your job to where you asked for within the grant two years? Because the Title I grant is written once per year. Yeah. It's the Title I carryover funds. So when the state goes back and looks at any money that
088was returned. they told us we had a chance to get all of that money back. So we have a bunch of money, 100% of it, which they never do. So this is the one year that we have money that I wrote and petitioned for. So it's carryover money that's just left over from years and years and years of not being spent. Particularly because of COVID, because it was so much lessers and arm funds, that the focus was to spend. The focus was to spend ARP and any of the COVID money. So then what happened was across the state, there was so much, like we had a hard time spending any of our title money because the focus was on spending, I think the district had about, was it 21 or $22 million in COVID money
089that the focus for two full years was to spend the COVID money. Okay, this is where I'm getting at and this is why I'm asking is that, you know, we don't know how long. this student count's gonna decrease. And so, say it decreases more and then we're overloaded again on staff. And so, and I think the question before was how many that were originally grant funded and started out that way in positions and then we had to keep them on. So we found other money, other places to, when the grant ran out. So I just don't want our regular employees, I don't know how else to put that, but to be pushed out over something that we should have been careful of in the beginning. Yeah, and that's definitely something that we look at and
090we have a lot of attrition just naturally, people resigning or retiring for whatever reason. And if somebody is in one of these positions, because I'm assuming that we're going to, for most of these positions, well, the teacher positions, the coach and the MLSS math coach, they're going to hire from within. So then if we need to, you know, they could go back into a regular classroom because I'm sure we'll have some. Well, that's good if it's done that way. Yeah. And not just hope that's good. And this last one where it says new positions operational funded. Warehouse worker? Yeah. I can. Let me run through the other positions and when I get down there we can talk about that one. I have a question before you move on. These programs that are grant funded, are
091these positions I mean that are grant funded and funded for one year, when that grant expires can that not be renewed? Can you not write another grant for the same position? I will let the title. So you can write it again as long as it does not go to operational because that would be supplanting. So as long as you keep it in the title, especially title one, you can. For example, we have two other coordinator positions that are out of title one as well. and I'm not too sure maybe before I got here they were written into Title I. In previous years we had reading interventionists in Title I but recently this year they're moved over to impact aid. So those reading interventionists in interventionist positions which there's eight of them, those cannot go back
092into a grant now. Correct? But the grant can be renewed or rewritten? Yes, so we rewrite it every year. I mean, literally, we have to look at the needs. So if you see MLSS, so we noticed across the district that our teachers were struggling to utilize MLSS and the layers of support. through gifted, through the SAT process, that was their need. So then when we wrote the grant, we said, based on what we're seeing in the classroom, principal walkthroughs, issues with SAT process, issues with gifted identification, that was the justification for us to write in there for those three MLSS coaches. Very similar, you saw our math scores, right? They increased, but not very high. So that was why. Right, so that was why we wrote in there that we need to hire math coaches
093to support our teachers and to provide more guidance to them, one-on-one guidance. I know our department is stretched thin to support not only the programs, but also to support the principals and the teachers, most importantly. And to be a one-year position, I think is in our benefit, because when we don't need them, when we're done and they've completed their job and our scores are stupendous and awesome, then it's already said it's a grant position, so they are already aware that they know that it's a year-to-year thing. Not so great for teachers who are willing to take a job that's grant funded, but then they could go into another position in our district, which we almost always have something. Well, I think that there will always be need for assistance in math for existence or reading
094or science, depending, but I can't see a time when there wouldn't be a need. That's correct. And when we have the reading coaches, what gets paid attention to gets done. And so the more help that they have, principals have paying attention to the work that's getting done, it gives a better result. That's what we're finding. So you have a coach for Shiprock area and one for Newcomb area? That is correct. So that each area can have support. Central office? Sorry, that should say Kirtland area. Oh, okay. I was like, okay. Yeah, we wanted, we didn't want one running all over because a lot of times, you know, you're like if you, if you're in Shiprock, you're going to spend 45 minutes. I mean, you know, we tell them to go to the speed limit, but
095you're going to go 45 minutes down. So if they just start down in Newcomb or here or in Shiprock, that's why we say regional. That way they can support the elementary, middle, and high schools. Any questions? Can you explain that coordinator facilities? Sure, it's overseeing the construction aspects of facility maintenance. Do you want to talk about that one? Yeah, we'll have Rodney come up. That was his old job. He took the vacated director spot. Okay, food services, we have just one cook position, so we're doing really well there. Operations, we have an electrician, which always seems to be a need, and we have a grounds position. Any questions on those? Okay, non-certified, so we have a daycare position at Career Prep. Pre-K EA at Nizhoni, which is a new position and grant funded. It goes
096along with the pre-K teacher position at Nizhoni. And that was based on student numbers. We're growing in that aspect. We have a pre-K position at Kirtland Elementary. And then we have two community school site facilitator positions. And those are spread among several schools. So you'll see one is Eva B., Nashtiti, and Newcomb. And the other one is Newcomb Middle and Ojo. So just two positions, but covering five schools. and we have the warehouse position in the Kirtland area, which is a new position under operational funds. So you had a question there. I have a question. Ms. Aspers had one on that worker first and then go ahead. So Central is still striving for its own speech language? Yes, yes. And then if that happens, does that, Do we end the contracted? Yeah. Yeah. So as
097we get any people on site, then we can not contract that need. Yeah. Secondary, on the second page, we have a language arts at Newcomb High. It has a long-term sub. And then under student support services, a nurse, and then a speech-language pathologist, and a physical therapist. So I do have a question regarding the pre-k teachers. They have to be licensed credentialed to do that, right? Yes. So does that mean that anybody that's working with those pre-k educators, with those pre-k kids, are they supposed to be licensed as well? As far as let's just say, I don't know what they do, but do those kids get specials? As far as like art or music? Yes. Okay, so do those art teachers have to be licensed with pre-K? Or is that? They're the elementary teacher. Define
098pre-K. Art, I get what you're saying. So the art endorsement is pre-K to 12. The endorsements, unlike for art, band and whatnot, so it would still cover the pre-K kids. What if they're not? They're not endorsed? No, I'm just saying, just hypothetically speaking, what if they weren't? then they wouldn't be employed with us because they're not highly qualified. Just want to make sure. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Any other questions? So how many in total positions? Positions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 30. Did you count them? 30. Thank you. 930, yeah. Any, so how many positions? 30 by Mr. So's count. And any as far as financial? No. So most of it's just teaching? It's just what? Teaching? Yes. Teaching. Yep. Okay, thank you. All right, thanks everybody. One more. Just real quick.
099So given that we're starting off the year, it looks like we're pretty much staffed with license. licensed teachers in every one of our classes except for a few. So we should see, at least based on the research and data, we should see measurable impact in terms of outcomes. Is that fair to say? Yes. So now that we have fully staffed teachers, classrooms with licensed teachers, we should see a measurable impact in student achievement then? Yes. So with that said, is there a way to track that internally? because I know that's to me because teachers have one of the biggest impacts on student achievement and learning. But yeah, this is a good start. So with the language program, with that also said, I'm hoping that we lend our support to some of these schools with EVB
100Stokely and also Newcomb Elementary to help build a quality to their language programs. So hopefully our district is able to provide additional support. to those schools that help build quality programs. Thank you. Mr. Desvaux, do you want to find a mic? Do you have a comment? I was just going to add to Board Member So's comment. Yes, we're tracking them with various programs, whether it's iStation, iExcel. There's programs within HMH, NWEA, which is one that we're working on right now, but that's the progress monitoring that we're gonna use to identify and track that growth. Thank you. So, may I? Go ahead. So with the, I guess the improvement in the teachings, positions, and those being taken care of, Does that up our SEG? Would that have an impact on that? I'm sorry, what was the
101question? Say tomorrow all these positions are filled with the teaching positions? Would it, would it? have an influence on the SEG formula? Not necessarily. The SEG formula is primarily based on the number of students and their needs. So it's student classifications, not necessarily whether we're fully staffed or not. That's what they base the number on is the students and the needs surrounding for those students. I thought it was certification too. Yeah, I believe what she's referring to is that there's a part of the state, the SCG formula that uses what's called the training and experience index, which is one of the multipliers that's used. So you have the unit value, then the T&A index, which has a huge influence, and that's usually determined by years of experience, degrees, licensure, and so forth. So given the
102fact that it looks like we're cutting back on long-term subs and having more licensed teachers, it should. have a positive impact on the district in that regard? Yes, with those licensures that they bring, yes. I understand now, yes, it would. That's TCR, yeah. Okay. Okay. That's two-year, three-year. Or level two, level three. I have a question. Too late. Go ahead. Okay. In the hard to fill area that was mentioned earlier with the speech language, what efforts are we making to recruit? That's really difficult because Well, in terms of recruiting, what we do is we are working with several colleges and universities and getting in folks that are in training. And so they come in and do practicum hours. And we're hoping that as they complete these practicum hours, they'll then move into employment with the
103district. But throughout the state, there's just a lot of organizations, companies that offer these folks the ability to work remotely. And that's very attractive to them. My understanding is that that's their preference and that's where they choose employment as opposed to employment with us. I think that, and I said this before, in terms of especially the conversation right before with the career technical, I think with those hard to fill areas, I think we as a school district should look to see if we have programs that we can develop in our school district to... grow our own like we're doing with the CN, with the nurses, the nurse pack, we should be doing the same thing with our hard to fill positions. Yeah, and that's what we have with the colleges and universities, those different partnerships.
104We did grow one of our own SLPs. It's a slow process, but we did have that one accomplishment. Okay, thank you. Sure. I have a comment. Go ahead. So the, with, say, that speech pathologists are, and those you were talking about, they prefer remote, and yet there's, like, two different parents that I know that have students that need their services, and the parents prefer. In-house they prefer somebody physically there. They don't like remote. They don't like over the you know on a TV set How are we pushing that you know because that's also a part of a Segment up that's part of Yazi Martinez That's a great question. That's a difficult situation. I know not firsthand from being a principal at the elementary level and having those parents come in and complain about that because
105parents would much rather have the in-person. Mr. Bellasweet and his team is going out and searching for people. They're, like you mentioned, I hate to even say this, but there are very few folks. Who would want to move somewhere else when they can do their speech through their home. So there's all these contractors who have these folks that are employed. And those are the people who are available and they're able every district. I mean, we're more remote than most folks, but every district I know of has the same situation with. It's very, very difficult to find them to come out. Well, it seems like we're catering to them. You know. And when they're really not fulfilling a parent's, what they want for their child, and instead we're catering to them. And then when you look
106within the district with other professions, other teachers, we don't do that. I agree. We would prefer to have SLPs in person, but we just can't get them. So the next best option, which isn't a great option, is to contract out, and that's virtual. We'd love to get folks in person, but it's no luck so far. It's the unfortunate aspect of the market today. The casualty of the kids. Yes. Okay. All righty. Thank you everybody. Thank you Moving on nine report and possible board action on Unified grant application for IDE a B by Joel. I'm not gonna try and Pronounce that embarrass myself and you to last name. You can tell us what it is Ballast sweet try it again a ballast sweet. Okay Welcome. Thank you very much. Ta-da To the honorable board, superintendent, colleagues,
107and the community, good evening. I'm going to be presenting the unified grant application for IDEA for special ed. The current year allocation for the IDEA-B grant are the following. So for pre-K till... Grade 12, we have a total of 1,334,300. And for the pre-K, we have 55,311. A total of 1,389,611. So that's our current year allocation for our special ed for the IDAB funds. The next slide would show a breakdown for the 24106, which is the kinder to grade 12. And the breakdown are as follows from educational materials, curriculum, software that are related to the IEP. We have 40,000 contracted services to provide support, which we currently contracted with like the UNM to provide behavioral support and consultations, visitations. other supports that usually the school requires to help our students. The next one, salaries for
108related licensed services providers, which is, I would say, where bulk of the allocations is allotted to. That goes with benefits that are required to be provided to the staff. And you have an indirect cost there, which is around $80,000 plus. And to sum it up, you will have around $1,334,300. Next slide, please. Then this slide is for the pre-K. which is 24109, and the breakdown are as follows. Salaries for bus driver and bus aid amounting to $32,146. Salaries for bus driver and bus aid, $20,000. And then again, indirect costs like the electricity, the heating, gas, and other things, which would total to around $55,311. Next slide, please. And I just kind of put there a representation of where those money allocation is distributed. And again, I would say the bulk of it goes to our
109staff salaries, benefits, and the rest are with educational supplies. IN DIRECT COST. AND THIS ENDS MY PRESENTATION FOR THE BOARD APPROVAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A GOOD EVENING. AND I STAND FOR QUESTION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE BOARD? CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT BREAKDOWN? YES, MA'AM. THE FIRST PART. YES. SO HERE IN THE FIRST PART, We have a total allocation of $1,389,611. So that total is divided into two. The 24106, which is for kinder to grade 12. The 24109, sorry, the right side should be 24109. That's my error. and that is for the pre-K, which is amounting to 55,311. Okay, so the next slide. This slide is where the total of the 1,334,300 are kind of distributed with the different descriptions, areas. So we have the contracted services that... that come
110in, right? Yes, ma'am. And what are the educational materials, curriculum? What is that? The educational materials? So usually the educational materials are like equipments, headphones, pens that are requested by... pen reader, which is often requested based on the students' needs, or it could also be text-to-speech on a yearly basis if the student benefits or qualifies from those materials. We reserve an amount to... cover those things. Curriculum, currently we have a curriculum which is the unique learning system which is for the autism students and for the life skills. We have a new one that we kind of we're trying to start this school year which is the Conover learning system which would cater more towards developing career readiness, life skills, income management. other stuff so those are just an example of the material and curriculum the
111software is more would relate to the text-to-speech software's and other voice do you say what do you call this one so for nonverbal students you will have this software we're in if the student pushes the button then it will speak for them so it becomes the voice of our students especially for the nonverbal ones and that's included for the software. Okay, because you know I figure if we're paying, I've seen the numbers on contracted services and I feel like That's exactly what they are. They're contractors. They're vendors to our district. So why are we buying the supplies and helping them? But you're explaining that this is more for the students. For the students. Okay. I'm good. Thank you. Thank you very much, and have a good evening. With that, I'll make a motion to approve
112that item. Second. It's been moved and seconded to approve that item. Mr. Montoya? Yes. Ms. Aspas? Yes. Mr. Sol? Yes. Ms. Askey? Yes. Myself, yes. Item B, report and action on youth civic. infrastructure grant by Sandra Westbrook good evening again so this is the 2025 youth civic infrastructure fund that Kirtland Central High School I'm gonna give a little bit of background then I'll turn it over to justice who is the contact point of contact for fundamental needs but last year we had the opportunity to partner with a student who graduated from Kirtland Central High School. He brought an initiative to our school where students, college students and high school students were actually paid through a separate organization to develop infrastructure for the installation of off-grid water and solar systems for our surrounding areas that was
113Kashawn Harrison who graduated in the early 2000s or 2020s so through this partnership they the students actually themselves had observations, gave feedback, which gave the founders of the Fundamental Needs to actually ask, can we pursue a grant which would then give back where the students can get internships so they can do further exploration as what our needs are here in the community. So this grant is really focused on economic engagement for our regional area. So with that being said, I'm gonna turn it over to Justice and then I'll follow up at the end. Hello everyone, my name is Justice Ramos. I'm the executive director of a nonprofit called Fundamental Needs. We started back in 2020. For a little reference, my grandparents taught on the reservation for 20 plus years in Rock Point, Arizona. So I
114graduated college and we'd always talk about starting something. It was 2020, we jumped into, We jumped into immediate relief and then built off good water systems and then later developed the program where we let students build our systems and then hire them to do the work in the community. So we've been running an entrepreneurship program in Cortez, Colorado for three semesters and also a summer course. And the thought here with this grant was that we would let the students identify the next big issue that they wanna tackle within their community, let them build proposals and quasi business plans around that, and then let them actually start those businesses to help their own community. So within this grant, our plan is to go through a semester. It's a capstone class, so it would fulfill some of
115the graduation requirements, which the future Fulghamton education will actually give us in the Brooklyn Central High School guidance on how to develop this curriculum. And then at the end, well, probably the middle of this class, the plan is to have five to ten interns actually go out into their community, go gather feedback, and actually start this program. That's a brief overview. So basically in a nutshell, capstone courses have been approved by the state of New Mexico since they've done away with the assessments and they've allowed the schools, actually the state, to develop the programs within their schools for students to have a holistic. after they graduate. So this initiative is building on the capstone process that what we want to implement actually, I think we're the first school within the district to actually move forward
116with integrating a capstone project into our curriculum where these students will actually. go out into the community, they're gonna find out what the needs are, they'll bring the information back, and that they'll get paid through this process. So the grant, of course, here is for approval of acceptance. It is a $25,000 grant. $2,000 would go to the actual instructor for the capstone course, and then 5,000 is allocated towards the students. The remainder of the funds goes to the nonprofit organization. Do you have any questions? I believe maybe Mr. Ramos. How do you, how is this possible? Where does the money come from? So this one is through Future Focus Education and then, I forget the other partner. It's New Mexico Community Foundation or something like that. It's just a grant application that they're trying to
117kick off these napstone crosses through high schools. That's where most of our funding comes from. That's where our water project stuff comes from as well. Most of, you know, family foundations, school foundations, things like that. I guess my thinking is, is this all the way back to a federal subsidy or something? I don't think so. I can check into that for you. We can share more of the details of the two organizations if you need. But I don't think it comes from federal grants. I think it's family foundations and corporate foundations as well. Because I sure hate to get our students excited and they go out and they do the footwork and the work and then find out then. the program ended, especially federally. I believe Trump's administration has stopped funding solar farms and things
118like that. So I'm just wondering what else. And so it'd be good to really find out and know for sure where the money comes from. so that our students, they know it's, you know, they can get excited, they can go out there and do what they need to do. Yeah, we've been running since 2020, and we've had the program, the water project program in Rock Point since, I mean, we started to work in 2020, but we've had the program since 2021 in Rock Point. the water project at least and we we go through we probably have 20 to 30 different grant funders both private foundations public foundations corporate foundations and we diversify our funding there and then we do different fundraising efforts every year So this is just one of the grants, the $25,000. After
119this first year, this grant will have the opportunity to apply again. And if we are approved, it's for the next three years, and that'd be $50,000 for this grant. And then, of course, we will be seeking additional funding to help supplement this project as well. That's good. Thank you. I have a question here. I'm reading your... says that economic engagement, these areas I'm assuming that's listed here are things that you work on. You have highlighted economic engagement, dignified housing, mental health and well-being, safety and social issues, food and nutrition. These are all areas that you work on. The area that we are focusing on is economic engagement, the highlighted one. Solely, that's the one that you're doing right now. So it might cross-pollinate here. The way that we're running this is it basically be like
120an entrepreneurship class. We're going to teach the kids how to build business plans. We're going to go out and identify the issues and build plans. either it's going to be some sort of product that helps the community or some service is the plan here. And so that might, you know, maybe one of the students is going to want to work on housing for the community or, you know, some sort of food product for the community. So it'll cross-pollinate just depending on what the student's interests actually are. Okay. Anybody else have any questions? Motion. Motion. Second. It's been moved and seconded that we... approve this item. Roll call vote Mr. Montoya. Yes. Ms. Aspas. Yes. Mr. Soule. Yes. Ms. Hasky. Yes. Myself yes. Thank you. Ms. Westbrook. Report and possible board action on grads award letter
121for CPHS by Mr. Paniagua. thank you good evening members of the board superintendent carlson i apologize for not being able to be able to be there in person to present but i thank you for allowing me to present remotely so for school year 25 26 career prep high school has been awarded a 22 000 award from new mexico grad program it's broken down into two components The instructional component is for teenage parents that we can spend up to $14,000. Instructional things for students, those could be used for teacher salaries, substitutes, travel to grads training, things like that. There's also a childcare component up to $8,000 that we got awarded this year. And that money can be used for salaries for the Child Development Center. which we have there at group prep high school supplies or
122other travel expenses for the grad training related trainings this year we have a new grads teacher she's new to the campus and new to the program and so we sought some assistance miss janine fisher from grads came up from new mexico to meet with our teacher and one of the products of that meeting was a need to have a separate person do the case management and so we identified that person as well and so now we have our team set to provide these wraparound services for our teenage parents and to help them to raise happy and healthy families and so I think it's a positive thing that's been going on at career prep high school and something we'd like to continue and with your help we Hope to be able to continue and provide this
123much needed service for our students. Any questions from the board? Can I have a motion? I'll make the motion to approve. Second. It's been moved and seconded. We approve this item. Roll call. Mr. Montoya? Yes. Ms. Aspas? Yes. Mr. So? Yes. Ms. Haskey? Yes. Myself, yes. I have a question for Brian. So I say Brian because I don't want to butcher your last name. And anyhow, is this a new grads program? Is it new for career prep? No, the program isn't new to career prep. It's ongoing. We've actually written it into our master schedule as a class for students to take. What is new is just the instructor who's teaching it. Okay. All right. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Thank you, Mr. Paniagua. Yes, sir. Thank you. I appreciate it. Next, a report and possible board
124action on CCSD disposal request. I am Ms. Sheba Joel. and Ms. Armenta. Good evening, members of the board, audience, and everyone watching online. My name is Sheba Jo. I am the warehouse supervisor for CCSD. This evening, we have items to be approved for disposal. These items are outdated, unsafe, obsolete, broken beyond repair, and we wish to take them off of our inventory list. They include Seco cafeteria tables, which are 20 years old or more. They've all been replaced. Playground equipment that has been replaced. Washer and dryer appliances. computers, laptops, some computers, some laptops, printers, and old video conferencing equipment that we used to use when, you might see them a long time ago during the board meetings, it was a big giant TV and whatnot. Those are all coming back for disposal. Some kitchen appliances,
125food disposers in some of the kitchens, ice makers, custodial equipment. athletic equipment and some construction items like the Newcomb Elementary kitchen boiler that was replaced. So those are the items that we have this month for up for disposal and we just would appreciate your approval. Ms. Joel? Yes. If you find some poor unfortunate sucker to take all these. I mean, if we approve this, if you found somebody to take all this off your hands. It would be very nice. Yeah, but, you know, like I said, a lot of this stuff has been in the schools for a long time, and usually when we get them back, they're three-legged desks, you know, one-legged whatever, and sometimes it's not even worth. trying to fix it. It's, you know, they really used it. Cafeteria tables that were probably
126there when we were all in high school or even when I was in high school. Landfill trash. Yes. Are these items going to get recycled or just going to haul it off? Well, we'll try to recycle what we can, whatever. can be taken to maybe Valley for scrap or whatever and then turn that in. But there's something that I don't want to put anything that is unsafe, even if it's for public auction or anything. It's just not really, I don't want anybody to get hurt on it. And at the same time, we're trying to get it off of the school property so that nobody else gets hurt and stuff. So, and just taking it out of our system so that we can replace it with something new. Do I have a motion? Motion to approve.
127Second. It's been moved and seconded to approve this item on the agenda. Roll call. Mr. Montoya? Yes. Ms. Aspeth? Yes. Mr. Sowell? Yes. Ms. Askey? Yes. Myself, yes. Thank you, Shiva. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Armenta. Item E. reconsideration of table to action recent increase for district housing and updates to housing policies by Mr. Rodney Armenta and Dominic Santiago. Good evening, board. Sotena, sorry. Oh, thank you. Good evening, board president Haskey, vice president Wells, secretary So, board member Aspas, and board member Montoya, and Mr. Carlson. Thank you. And We are here again to present. I made some copies and we have it here on the board. Just for your information to have, this is a total of the work orders that were submitted to the maintenance department for the housing. So it's from January through
128August. And on the first page of this report, as it gets passed around, you'll see the amount of work orders that have come in for repairs on the housing, starting at central office, going from left to right, to Mesa. and then Mesa Heights, the new subdivision, Nascity Housing, Newcomb Housing, the one house we have in Ojo, and the SAO, the new subdivision at SAO, and then the housing at TBA. So these totals... If you look at the amount of work orders that came in on the next following pages, it's broke down for your reference as to, if you'll go to the next slide, please, Michelle. It breaks it down into the, I'm sorry, they're on our page. There we go. The craft as to what they submitted it in, if it's a door, if it's
129electrical, if it's fence. HVAC, housing, that's a real generic term they have in there in housing, but it's a box that they can check if it's outside the home or inside the home. The kitchen equipment plumbing, so this breaks it down. throughout all the housing in the subdivisions and at the very last page of the grand total of that since January to August 21st we had 1,207 work orders come in for the housing throughout the district so just to give you a little bit of a compare to see what we're up against with the housing on the last page we created a bar graph here And in our team, we're really, really working on this. And Mr. Cetania, when we were looking at the, through the school dude work order system, our team, as they
130complete these work orders in order to build their time and the parts into each one of these, we're trying to really be stringent on them filling out the completion of these work orders to get the very last page. If we'll go to the very last one, Ms. Ray. This graph here, it shows a breakdown of how much the total cost in, like I say, this is, if you look at Mesa housing, $39,220.05. I mean, that's the sum of the cost and then the sum of the hours. So it breaks it down just to give you a reference. of the conversation we had in the beginning of when we were talking about the housing and about the need for for what we had approached the board with so i just wanted to give you that for
131uh for your information to have it for your information as well as to let you know that you all did make a um you voted on the action item for us to be able to implement a penalty with weeds on the last part of this this presentation and we've been working with our our attorney to make sure that our documentation and that our verbiage is right within our housing agreement in our lease agreement and making sure that we're up to the with the the latest rental codes and making sure that we are we're up to date with that so with that um unless mr satania has anything to add i'm i stand for questions questions from the board so um Where are we as far as, well, when you list it here, what the work
132orders are for, but really, why did you list them? Is it just to, I mean, there's a difference between how many work orders, but with actual time spent to resolve a problem or? Fixed repair. I just gave you the information that maybe would help on your decision on what we were looking at moving forward. I know that we had presented just across the board number for raising the amount that we were going to charge the tenants. but with whatever the board's decision is, just so the information is out there that in central office housing, we have eight units. In Mesa Heights, we have 14. Mesa Housing, we have 29. Nascity, we have nine. Newcomb, there's 39 units. Ojo, there's one. So just to give you an idea of just kind of what we're up against,
133we're just maintaining. When we first presented this, we were talking about the cost. of doing major remodels and we were talking about how much it was costing to do an update to the homes as far as flooring and the painting. This is just maintenance. This is just work day-to-day work orders with it could be a faulty air conditioner, it could be a leaky toilet, it could be a faucet. This is just the work order just so you would have it for reference of the amount of work orders that are coming in. to the maintenance department. We have two maintenance workers dedicated just to the housing and they're fielding about 1,207 work orders, about 168 a month. Just so you have it. So I think Dominic was standing up there with you. Yes. So we see
134the work orders, the number, and then the graphs. Where's your documentation on? if you've gone out to find or I don't know who does that as far as grant writing for housing funding? Grant writing is not under our department. So that would be under either something in curriculum or instruction or the various departments in terms of seeking out housing. So we have food services. I thought each department had a... Not under my department. Our department doesn't specifically deal with writing grants. We deal with processing the request for reimbursement with the PED. And we support the various coordinators that oversee those grants. So it's the coordinators within each of the departments that would either search for grants, maintain existing grants, et cetera. Maybe the word not used here should be. But what did you do to
135find out if how we can be like Gallup where they offer free housing? I understand that GAL provides that as a part of their salaries, is under their salaries. That's something that if the board wants to look at doing, we can provide some analysis on. I'm not prepared to provide any information with regards to that. Again, that is an analysis that would be best supported. by a strategic plan in terms of where the district wants to put priorities and its resources currently we're operating on prioritizing uh the majority of our funds to support building projects and newcom and improvements around the district um and and in in addition to maintaining our salaries and reevaluating our salaries um if if we want to look at providing free housing we could we could come back with some
136information about what cost that would be to the district and what what other decisions we what other cuts we have to we might have to make to support that with the existing funds that we had have or um or we can look at uh we can work with coordinators to look at at what other existing grants are out there that that might support support this type of housing Well, Superintendent, I don't want no cuts. I think that's the easy way out. You know, you can just stand there and say, we're going to cut this, cut that. But to actually do a job and find out more information and, you know, just as... For example, with our McKinney-Vento, she could have just sat there and said, oh, we have this number of homelessness cases and just
137sat on that. But instead, she goes and does her job and tries to look for money and grants or funding of some sort. and try to deal with the situation. And so I don't find that acceptable to just come up here and say we can do cuts or the answer is to increase. And we talk about... Well, first of all Gallup is providing that and we keep talking about being competitive and and we not only for our students, but also for teachers and And then we just heard HR report that talked about You know, I asked a question if we fill those with that type of qualification, does it improve our SEG? So I think from that bottom part, not only just the students, but also the teachers that we bring in, in the long
138run, with having good teachers, with having them supported by us and and where they're not wondering if we're going to breach the contract in the middle of the school year and all of a sudden, oh, we're upping the fees. And then, you know, there's so much tied to it. You know, the numbers that we look at, you know, for graduation, for reading, for math, and all of that is all impacted. So to me, I think we need to take care of not only our students, but our teachers as well. Appreciate that. Let me go ahead and try to just talk about that for just a second. And this isn't to make any excuses, but just to kind of explain the situation to folks who hear things about, for instance, Gallup. Okay, so the... The PSFA,
139the Public Schools Facility Authority, they basically have matches for districts. So not everybody understands how that works. And where they come up with the numbers, somebody's gonna have to explain it to me a little bit better because Gallup has an 18% match currently and ours is somewhere around 40%. They have a tax base of the entire city of Gallup as well as some of the surrounding areas, I believe, whereas we have a tax base of tiny Kirtland in the lower valley area, which is a very, very, very small portion of our district. So what Gallup has been able to do is kind of leverage that low rate, that low matching rate with not having to put out a lot of money for capital outlay. And so that they're able to save their money for other
140things. And they have, through their school board, they have a strategic plan that's been in place for several years now. And that focus is on bringing in people. So they go ahead and they spend a lot of money on advertising for staff. They have incentives that right now we can't offer. It is the board's prerogative to put forth those priorities. But given our current financial situation and dwindling student numbers, all those things going together, it's going to be real difficult to say we're going to try to match exactly what they're doing just given the current circumstances. So the board's gonna need to make some priorities to have a plan that says, we're gonna go ahead and utilize our facilities to the best of our ability to consolidate schools in some cases perhaps, maybe close a
141school here or there to save money. If we were to save money doing that, then now we have more money freed up from our impact date. Then we can say, hey, let's prioritize that, spending that money on bringing in people or providing better amenities. or incentives for teachers coming in. And so that's absolutely something the board can do, but it's gonna take time, it's gonna take a plan in place to say we're gonna do that. We're the pawns out there trying to take care of these things. I'm more than willing to advertise the way I've seen Gallop do. I'm more than willing to put together plans. I spent some time with Mr. Armenta this week, and we were looking online at possibilities. New Mexico offers renters help for low-income families and such. They don't really
142offer anything that would work for us. We didn't see any actual grants for that kind of money. And PSFA right now is not taking applications for housing. So they're kind of putting things on hold as they restructure their department. So there's a lot of dead ends going forth for us. um but again i mean that's kind of in a long range so tonight if we say we don't want to raise rent and that's a priority that's absolutely something the board can do and i think that's that's a great avenue to keep people here i think our presentation is just saying hey we're losing a bunch of money here because we're having to revamp a lot of the housing we do have and we go in We can't do a lot of the work. And so
143if we have a unit that's in disrepair, we might spend 50 to 100,000 and up just fixing that. It takes a lot of $600 a month rents to make up for $100,000. So we're just presenting that. And again, it's up to the board. And I'm happy to continue to explore. If there's other things that come up that we find out, we're going to look into it. I just wanted to add one additional comment. That Gallup McKinley district has anywhere from 10,000 to 12,000 students. We only have 4,250. That's a really big difference in terms of the amount of income, just even SEG income that they receive, not including their own impact aid or their tax base. As the superintendent pointed out, that allows those schools to create significant economies of scale. that we're not able
144to achieve right now given the given the under capacity of our classrooms and to his point you know dealing with some of the existing infrastructure that we have that impacts the board's ability to be able to support those things financially when we have when we have different challenges than they do currently So when, have you had this conversation with anywhere else, anyone else? Yeah, I mean, I was just at the NASBO deep dive for financial statements, and it's a place where I took Brian Smith, one of our accounts receivable individuals, and there we engage with all of the finance directors. CFOs around the state that are there and a lot of times during lunch and during those conversations or with NASBO directly we engage. I've also been awarded the Emerging Leaders Scholarship from ASBO International,
145one of 25 people in the United States that receive that and I'm really looking forward in October to going to ASBO International to get as much feedback. provide feedback and learn from the ASBO international community to understand what we can do and implement here in this district. Because, you know, yes, Gallup has their businesses and tax paying and things like that. But then that's where, you know, I know you're explaining. so that we understand, but you need to have those conversations over there, meaning the legislation or we have a board attorney that could work with this and because they created this situation. When are we going to finally hold their feet to the fire? To me, I feel like it's been said, let's just work with what we can, or what's that that you say,
146Mr. So? What we're capable of working with, but there's times when we need to go out and... What is that that you say? May do with what you've done. What we have control of? Yes, what we have control of, but no, in this case, they created the situation and this is the result. And we need to start voicing that. Because we continue to do this and not hold our feet to the fire, we're going to lose people. And when you break down just the living arrangements, those of us that are native, that we have free healthcare, but those that are non-native, a large percentage of our foreign teachers, they're not able to go over there. And so I appreciate. You were talking about the low income, but we gotta do more. That was the advertisement
147that we brought teachers in at the start of the year. And I think we should at least stay with that. And in the meantime, find whatever we can out there too. and start voicing this at ASBO and these other places instead of just here. If I may, to Mr. Cetania's point, and also kind of to speak to what you're talking about, Ms. Aspas. Everywhere I go I did that at that community meeting and those ladies that were sitting there at that table one from the PED then when I was controlling the conversation They were stunned they They didn't know how to react to specifically what he was saying or to what I've said about how We don't have that opportunity Because we don't have the resources coming in As they do or farmington does we're
148limited or hamstrung our hands are tied use any analogy that you want we don't have those opportunities and the reality is that again where we are where the vast majority of the schools are we're limited on being able to benefit from the lack of tax revenue that's being generated like in the other two communities that I've mentioned form to gala and Therein lies the bigger problem of being to provide those opportunities for those teachers to bring in Quality educators to teach our kids it that's that's the reality and I appreciate every opportunity that we can to try to do that I've tried to look and seek and try to find Grants to provide housing assistance to educators on the Navajo reservation or any place It's hard and dare I say almost non-existent except for what
149the superintendent has suggested, low income. But it is the unfortunate of where we are and the location that we're dealing with. That's why Impact Aid does what it does and that's why I've said before even that in and of itself is inadequate because we're seeing and feeling the effects of it directly in the classroom. Certainly the consideration of the strategic plan and right-sizing our buildings, our facilities to match the amount of students that we have. And I know it's been said here before, the consideration of possibly closing to free up some of that money to be able to do those things. Those are the decisions that we have to make. All they can do is give us the information to make those decisions. They're tough decisions to make. Again, I've stated and the information was
150brought to us last year at the beginning of the at the end of last year about how many of these buildings all the schools of Shiprock are half full. So what do we do? Continue to run and spend money that causes that deficit or even dare I say down south in in Nassau City? I'm willing to bet Every year we've been operating over the past four or five years to the tune of at least two hundred fifty thousand to half a million dollars For facility that's not being fully utilized and one could say that that number goes up even higher with the three schools in Shiprock the elementary schools So again, if we right size if we consolidate you free up some of that capital to be able to do that some of that tax
151Revenue to do those things but until we decide to make that decision with the strategic plan Which we do not have an end We can't do it We're spinning our wheels So we have to decide all we can do is to give us that information and and we have to make that determination to be able to Allow those things to happen. Thank you If I could just to kind of interject in what y'all are saying, and I get it and I understand. When I came to this school district in 2022, we were doing tons of projects. It was like everybody had said, that district has so much money. It was the COVID money and coming from the energy sector. and being in the part of the you know being a part of that side and
152coming to the school district it was it was we had multiple projects going when i came phase one of a new housing phase two of a new housing i'm like how do we even get the money for that we would have never done that had it not been tied to another project then houses are tied to a school like we have housings coming up to build new houses with the tda school but what was happening down in newcomb where's the housing on that bill you know there were some things that i feel were missed that we you know we're going to build new houses it was tied to the school some you know we look at we got 12 new houses coming at tba when that school is you know it's in the design and
153it's it's awarded so looking at that we know we're going to get 12 new houses but then it's like well we can either add that to our to the what we have as the district has that we still got to maintain but that's why like i said before we deal with the with the HR department of vacancies to make sure we always, we've never been to the 100% capacity where we're gonna say we're gonna have to move somebody out because we don't have room to bring in a licensed teacher. We haven't got to that point yet. We've always had a vacancy and we're still, like right now, I think we have seven homes and we're working on four of them. So we have three that are ready, four that are coming up in the process,
154but. We have contractors out there. That's the flooring that's at $12,000 to $15,000 in flooring, $15,000 to $10,000 in painting. So that's what we're doing just to maintain the homes that we have. But that's just kind of some of the hurdles with that. Looking moving forward of like how, you know, to maintain the older homes, it's just costing us a little bit more. But to get that help, like you said, I think everybody, we have a collaborative, we have an idea. of how we can move forward to look at that, looking at some of the things that were coming in the past, that was how the new houses were being funded. So I just wanted to state that. Yeah, well, I appreciate the support. It's definitely informative. But what I was actually hoping to look
155for is like a more detailed report, like this is the cost of what is right now. Do you have anything like a deferred maintenance report? Like this is what our backlog is for all these building facilities. This is the cost. This is what our deferred maintenance costs are. And if it's not addressed, and of course the other one is, which... housing is in like real bad condition like stuff that we need to do to address health safety of those buildings and uh so forth like a more like a more detailed breakdown and of course what is our input cost like how much rent is generated off of this and what are some more outlays related to this i guess i'm looking at this because i've seen like other detail These reports like when you do
156like a like school like it's called a facility condition index do we have that similar fact that do we have that similar information for all of our district housing and blakes Not to my knowledge. I mean, this information that was provided tonight was an extension of the information that was provided last time, which did cover the net revenue that we're receiving currently from our housing in terms of what was being proposed for increases of rent. And we actually specify just at a very high level. Rodney presented the costs. for at least like the top 20 projects on the list of those like the top five in terms of total replacement those those proposed amounts were provided in last at the 2 board meetings ago. If you're looking for a list specifically to each project, again,
157this is an extension of that. I think that's something that we could probably look at putting together for you, right? But I mean, in terms of the amount of net revenue or the specific report you're looking for, I can make a note of that and we can look into it. But I mean from from the from from staffs staffs recommendation is still stands in terms of increasing rent as proposed last time you know I understand that the board's concerns about trying to get free housing for our teachers at this point, but we have immediate needs right now to actually pay for housing and improvements to our housing. In terms of where we need to be at as a district, in terms of what our other goals are or our understanding of what those goals are,
158it would take some time, as to the point that Mr. Carlson made, before we could actually get there. So what we're trying to do is try to address the immediate needs of the district and in terms of having those conversations with people around the state i've definitely been having those conversations that is actually what led us to understand that increasing our mill rate over that 10 percent mark would open up the state's coffers to actually reduce our costs in terms of the projects that we're pursuing for example in bloomfield they just built a whole new build like a whole new building or was it i can't remember if it was a school or another But they paid zero dollars, zero dollars. The state covered. 100 of the building in bloomfield it costs nothing to bloomfield
159and the reason that they were able to do that is because they were able to manage their meal rate over that 10 cap and again those are the conversations that we're having with members around the state that will have a direct impact on how we're making decisions here to have afford ourselves the same opportunities that bloomfield is has already exercised because they have managed their mill rate rate uh to exceed that 10 benchmark So again, we're trying to provide again immediate solutions to the needs that exist right now As Rodney pointed out in a couple board meetings ago um we have we have a lot of repair requests coming in from run from very old housing that we would like to improve for the teachers that exist now and as of right now pivoting that
160amount of money without trying to propose some other solutions again staff's recommendation was to increase rent um for the meantime and maybe in the long run in our strategic plan looking out in a you know a couple of years then we could look at shifting our priorities to maybe we eliminate that, but again, what we're trying to achieve is to address the housing that teachers and some staff are living in right now, those conditions, providing them with the immediate resources that they need. Any other comments? I forgot what I was gonna ask. Yeah, I guess my other question would be like, when it comes to future planning or development, I know that the district really put in some real nice housing. would another consideration be to even put in like more, I guess a cost
161efficient housing, like an apartment complex rather than individual housing? Because I think that would also help, because it looks like a lot of money that we're spending is having just to keep or upgrade a lot of the older buildings. So instead of that, why not just... and put in like newer facilities or housing that's upgraded so we won't have to clear it or have to deal with all those problems or the current issues. Rodney and I have actually discussed that not only for staff, but also for student housing, the way other districts have dorm, dormitories, residential areas. Yeah, but the thing about that is what we've confronted them and why we made this, why we brought this proposal to you is that those types of projects are years out and I recognize that we were
162supposed to be building homes last year around the central office where those new ones have gone up. And that was a missed boat last year. And it is our priority this year to make sure that we are managing our existing grants so that we're continuing to build those houses out, work with transferring the utilities over to the NTUA, which is what we'll be working on here over the next couple of months, and focusing on the long-term projects, but again, there's housing and if you have constituents that are living in these houses that will tell you that in Newcomb, for example, that needs serious repairs. And again, we have to be thinking about our resources as a whole and what funds that we have available to us now and how we wanna prioritize that. And we
163can shift that millions of dollars to start that work. but that I would say is not, that's not what we're recommending. We're looking for using multiple solutions as we navigate this out into the future. But to say that I agree with board members so that, yeah, just to clear the old housing and because according to your graph, those are the most ones that are costly. And so I asked a question before about... Instead of, because construction and material supplies have gone up, what, three times maybe? That's probably conservative, but it's probably five times. And so I asked a question, and I believe Jermaine had some answers to that, which was about manufacturing homes. you know, not trailers, not mobile homes, but manufactured homes where we could just pull them in, hook up the water and
164electricity and there you go. You know, so, you know, that thought, you know, that... It's not years out with what we're facing because to get a crew out there and to get the area surveyed and then all the phases of construction of new homes and what all that entail with the... at the administrative office, that's gonna be costly for Newcomb and Maschutte area. But probably not as much as for TBA and I don't know, but I think TBA is proposed to be in a new site. So you're talking about new water lines and things like that for housing. if that project includes that. But to me, I think that would be the quickest way to resolve those old housing at Newcomb, Natchitoches area. Understood. I think from my perspective, and I haven't... price a mobile
165home in a while. But I think there's two factors, at least from the finance side that I would be concerned about. One is that regardless if it's new construction or it's a mobile home, it's still going to require water and electricity. And again, working with the NTUA to get those lines built out is still, again, it's not going to happen in six months. It could be, it could still be a year out, even if we tried to get the agreement and the documents in place tomorrow. As you all know, working through that process with the Navajo Nation or even with the NTUA is a step-by-step process that takes maybe a little longer, maybe than from if we were in the Farmington City. And then the other consideration is that mobile housing, from my understanding, is
166just as expensive as maybe a new home. I mean, there are hundreds of thousands of dollars in terms of what those mobile homes are. I think... where we've been successful is the houses that have been built by the central office in Shiprock and it has been told to us by the state that those are actually now being used as the template for other housing in other districts around the state. That design, that process, that high efficiency, the floor plans. So in a sense, My concern is, you know, again, the length of time we're trying to address the needs of the existing housing that needs support and finding that what works best in terms of replicating that model. We have one that has been proven to be successful and is now being used as the model
167around the state. And I don't know if Rodney wants to add to that. I think we've covered it. I think all the information and the input that each one of you has put in, we definitely take it. And looking at the challenges we have moving ahead, we know that we're going to have to maintain these homes. We're doing the best job we can. We're trying to be very, very frugal with the money. We're trying to be diligent with what we do and be responsive to the needs of the tenants. because they are our employees, they're our coworkers, they're our colleagues. And we wanna make sure that they're in a great environment and we wanna make sure that them homes are serviced. And that was the basis of this proposal. And so I know that you
168all have the decisions that you have to make. And I think Mr. Carlson said it best, ultimately it's your decision on what you wanna do on this. We presented what we have. It is something moving forward. We could stay with the status quo and keep doing what we're doing. And then in the future, try to, you know, look at how we're going to get either the new homes or looking at different options for out, you know, for the build. But for all we need to do with the existing homes, we know what we got to do. We got to maintain them. We see the trends. We see what's happening. We have different. you know things happening in Newcomb with you know jacking up the structures and the flooring and stuff but we've done it we
169we're able to do it it's just we kind of know this is just the guideline just showing you this is what it's costing us a year we're just trying to offset that about a little bit if we're spending this much and we just want to kind of bring that where we know we're not going to be profitable that's not our goal it's just to be able to maintain them and to be able to service the the housing to the need that i mean i'd love to put on another maintenance person to cover 130 houses and I have two people. I mean, that would be, the needs are gonna go up. That was another thought. If the needs go up, the renters, the tenants that live in these homes. We do all the maintenance and it's
170through work order. So it's just, you know, we get the work orders. They come in and we do our job and we just want to track it. So I hope that we presented the information to you well, give you at least from our end what we're seeing, give you a little insight as to what we're doing with the housing, how it's operating on a monthly basis, sometimes a day-to-day basis. We cover the housing calls 24-7. if they call it 10 o'clock at night we respond so um we will never stop doing that and we will continue to do you know the same in effect how we how we respond and how we treat the homes we just offset in a little bit so thank you thank you for all your input and your comments do
171you have a listing of of other vendors or people that you use other than the maintenance department Yes, we have some CES, some cooperative vendors that we have that have price agreements throughout the state. And they're part of the approved vendors for like our flooring and our painting. That's mainly what it is. If we got to go in structurally and it's going to be over a certain amount, then we'll do it through an RFP. and we'll do a three bid. But if it's under the threshold and we can use a CES vendor, then we're trying to utilize local. A lot of them that have already worked on the Navajo Nation understand the needs that we have out here. We're bringing those contractors back. And we're trying to utilize the ones that are local, that are
172local here to the area, preferably in the Shipwreck area, Newcomb. I mean, but if they come from Farmington. we we've been utilizing the ces as much as we can or some of the other co-ops it'd be good to see that listing compared to your maintenance um department workers gotcha okay yeah and another possible question as well is is there housing that is in really really bad shape that it might just make sense better sense just to not put more money into it anymore and just condemn it Good yes sir good point. No we have housing at central office that's condemned. Because if you have something like a 1980s vehicle that's where your odometer doesn't make sense no more does it make sense to drop a brand new engine and transmission I mean if it's that
173far gone I mean. No, I've done it. He has a 1980. I got a 2000 GMC pickup with over $400,000. I mean, if there's original engine. Buildings in that sort of condition, it might make financial sanctions kind of just let them go. From the finance department's perspective, it absolutely makes sense to get rid of. That's existing land that we can already build on, again, but it costs money to demolish and dispose of those materials. It costs money. So, again, those are conversations that we have to have with the state. We potentially have to have with the Navajo Nation, depending on what property or that lies or what the lease is. um those are all conversations that take a very long time to potentially navigate it's not things that happen overnight what we're trying to do
174is support uh mr armenta's department the operations department with with uh the amount of requests they have received uh from existing employees living in the houses that they have now to support them and as of right now we either use additional funds whether it's impact aid to support him with other full at least one full-time employee what we wanted to do was generate some additional revenue again because rent hadn't been raised in over 10 years but to maybe support that additional person and then also use that additional person not to use those third-party contractors that as we described two board meetings ago are costing tens of thousands of dollars for even just a repair of a floor, I think was well over $15,000. That eats into any revenues that we're receiving on those houses. Again,
175we're looking to try to navigate multiple solutions for both short-term and long-term. And yeah, I would love to knock down houses and build them tomorrow. And no, very good point. The other thing that goes along with what Mr. Satania is saying and with what you're saying is some of them costs, we're not even talking about if the house is found or has asbestos in it. So then we got to get that. That's a whole, now you might as well talk another 25,000 on top of that. to have the asbestos so it it yeah the the ones that we've got on the list to condemn they have asbestos so we're waiting because they're tied to another project and it's like you know what we'll do the one-time fee for the disposal and so we do have
176houses that that we are going to condemn but there is that's that's kind of the cost too when they come in and we go to start tearing out the old carpet that's been in there forever and it's got black mastic, it's got asbestos, now you gotta call in. Now it's a whole nother, so them costs, we're not even reflecting that on here. This is just standard flooring repair. This is not anything above out of the ordinary. So just to throw that note in. I'll entertain a motion. Motion to move the table. Say it again. Motion to table with the consideration to continue the conversation of how we can best service the immediate needs of the maintenance department and the servicing of the repair of the facilities, housing facilities. I received a motion to kick the
177can down the road again. Just... If there's a second and room for discussion, I just want to be clear about what is it that you're exactly asking of me and Rodney to provide you the next time this is brought to the board. Secretary, so I know that you mentioned a specific type of report. I can review the document, the notes to... to understand what that type of report is and try to put that together. Is there anything else that you're specifically looking in terms of furthering this conversation? I guess what will help probably myself out, I'm not sure about the others, is what's the cost to maintain what we currently have, that the maintenance, the current outlay cost or the budget that we have. for what we got right now, followed by the income generated
178and how much of a subsidy we provide. Something to that effect. And even like a, almost like an updated report, like what is the current, what is the quality of our housing stock, the facility or the housing conditions, what are they like right now? Which ones are on their last legs, they're ready to go? versus one that's like newer. Understood. I think that we can provide or come up with some type of grading system, internal grading system to mark a house either A, B, C, or D, or F, and give you an overall view of each of the 120 some properties that we have. And then juxtaposed to the revenues that we've already provided, I can update you with more information on what the sources of that income, whether it's again generated, how much is
179that from the actual, the rent itself versus how much we're subsidizing to maintain the houses. There might be some... And we'll try to do the best of our ability to parse out the portion of the utility cost to those. Again, because they share meters with other buildings or, for example, that's going to be a little bit harder, but we can provide that information and try to provide you more defined numbers. The one legislature that continually comes to our conference in Albuquerque, which is Senator Sewell's, and he put out a book. So I nicknamed him the Sausage King. But his book is titled The Sausage Factory. And why, I don't know. But in his book, basically, it's just the squeaky wheel gets the, you know. Yeah, and so that's the analogy. And so I think what
180he's basically saying is that the one that continually comes forward and... vocalizes our issues and those issues are the ones that get the funding or get the money or get his time or get his attention or the committee's attention. So that's what I want to hear and I don't think that's been done enough. That's what I want to hear and see through documentation what have we done to not go this other route. And then I asked you about the costs of the maintenance itself compared to what the costs were, say, for last year, what the costs were for... for other vendors and what type of what type of work they did yeah so if i may go off of what miss aspicis said um we have coming up legislative considerations and so that certainly could
181be something from this board but i believe in the in in the immediate time constraints you need money to take care of those issues like yesterday, right and Tomorrow and the day after tomorrow So like JD went worth you need the money now And that's the process through the state legislature that's gonna take some time even Putting grease on that squeaky wheel is gonna take time because that wouldn't happen until February signed off by Mid-year I get your point, but there's, governor's not going to turn around and give you a check for free housing for CCSD employees either at a drop of a hat. It's going to take time to do that. With all due respect, I mean, I agree with what the argument is. I wish that we could do that, but they need
182money to repair those facilities, those apartments now. And it's pulling it from somewhere because the plot's only so big and it's getting smaller. Every year over the past five years Student counts going down with that is the SEG with that is impact aid Impact it is discretionary funding. I don't think the pot's getting smaller. I think the content is Say that again, I don't think the pot is getting smaller. Yes, the content is Something's costing more money So the need is what I'm saying is mr. Montoya the need is still there is still as great But there's but there's not enough in it to cover it. That's that was so Say you go and and you look at the housing and find that a Lot of them or all of them need to be condemned
183ASAP. Even with that, I would think you would go back and say and let them know because they have no idea. They're not passionate enough about us to come over here and ask what our needs are. So all of that needs to be documented and told. to the right people over there in Santa Fe. And this is what we're dealing with. And we've had these many units down south, which were a large part of our maintenance costs, and now we have to condemn them. But we would like funding, more money for new. Yeah, maybe I can also further clarify. I guess what I'm looking at is almost like, what are the pots of money that we're currently using for our current housing, the current maintenance and operation of the housing? Where are the sources of
184money? How much it's costing us for this? And I'm also assuming that includes the rent revenue that's generated. So that's one piece. But then where's all the money coming from for the... current maintenance operations of the current housing and the second is what is the cost what is our how much are we what's our subsidy how much are we losing what's how much we uh What is it costing us, the loss or the difference in that regard? I wouldn't consider it a loss. I think the point is just like, how much are we subsidizing with other funds outside of revenue? Because I'm looking at the cost benefit or that analysis. Because right now, we don't have enough numbers, at least for me. I need to look at more detailed numbers like that. I understood and
185I and I that's why I wanted to ask for clarification because as we provide this document we are generating currently $767,000 in income from our apartments houses and new houses what we consider 35 new houses like the ones that were most recently built but again there's there's a lot of costs that aren't directly associated but still i mean in terms of salaries and benefits 231 000 wash travis and electric our best guesstimates were 181 000 and gas and propane was 235 so total expenses were 647 uh against 767 in in revenues so the the thing is is we we are making enough income technically to pay for uh salaries water trash gas and propane um the the electric was kind of hard um i think that number's higher but again i told you that it
186was it's hard to kind of tell but basically we're washing even again what what the concern is is the extensive repairs and remodels that need to take place immediately on our properties and that represented over 1.1 million dollars that's outstanding that people are currently putting in request orders we're getting complaints to the operations department that are saying we need this fixed we need this done i need my four redone now again floors for example fifteen thousand dollars that is where our revenues are not exceeding the cost to actually help maintain these properties and their repairs over time. So we should be generating more income to cover more than just salaries or benefits, water, trash, electricity, and gas and propane associated. And again, in addition to this, what we had mentioned two weeks or two board
187meetings ago at the last regular board meeting is that right now, major projects, immediately we need $1.12 million. And that's all contracted. And that's not, you know, could we just pull SEG income and grab a million dollars or something? Sure, we could, I guess. But again, where do we take that money from? Do we take it from the fort? City Council Chambers, You know, we need 20 $20 million for new come elementary as of right now we're planning on renegotiating that with the updated mill rate, but right now we need $20 million, we only set aside $14 million as a part of our budget for that. City Council Chambers, So do we take the million from there, do we take it, you know, a million dollars away from salaries will we could, but currently we
188know exactly how many salaries and how many job positions that we need right now so it's a matter of choices and and. City Council Chambers, And these repairs are not just a one and done for this year, this is what we know of immediately right now. City Council Chambers, But as we investigate rodney's pointed out, we run into asbestos concerns we run into black mold concerns. City Council Chambers, You know, every time we go into one of these houses and the solution right now is not just to tear those down and just rebuild that that we have to transition and be able to maintain so I mean. Again, I could answer and say we have a net income of $120,000, but that we actually need more for the ongoing repairs and remodels of our homes.
189In addition to seeking out grants and continuing to build out properties as a, what kind of approach, like a dual approach, maintaining what you have at the same time pursuing long-term projects to continue to grow and replace as you go. May I? Yes, so superintendent Carlson when when this was brought to your attention Did you have Did you put out there to the tenants that this was coming up on the agenda and Did you notify anybody why not No, I mean While these discussions are going on, I think this is valuable and where one could sit in and either online or here and listen to these discussions. Forgive me for pushing back, but why would we want tenants to listen to these discussions? Because they're the ones that are paying and they're the ones that
190are going to have the... Do landlords do that in the public sector? Do they put it out to their tenants whether maybe there might be a raise? But these are your teachers. Exactly. And they've been getting an excellent deal for a long time. And so the point is we're losing money right now and subsidizing and keeping rent the same for 10 or more years. When in the public sector rents have gone up, I don't know 100% Yeah We're not asking for the moon and this is again the board's already chosen to table this discussion tonight So it hasn't even happened yet. And that's something the board has all the product of they want to do I to me Other than knowing that we're not landlords But again, I think what we do at this level
191should involve them to either listen, give them an invitation that this is what's happening, this is going up for discussion. And to me, I think that's... At least they'll get a chance to hear why. And at first it just came down to yay or nay, and then we decided to table it. Now that we've asked for more information, and then now more has come out, and I think these are valuable. to where that they can see and have a better understanding of why it's being done and not just a board decision. I'm afraid, I don't know, had this not taken place, I guess that probably would have been your answer. back to some of those concerned about it and wait. You think I would put it on the board? It was brought forth by the
192administration. It would only be ratified by the board when the board chose not to. No, I mean, after all is said and done, I guess you are just going to go back and say, well, it's the board. That was their decision. That's what I just said I wouldn't say. That's not how it works. But it would have been good to have to invite them. and let them know that and even for yourself you know to say that this item is going to be on the agenda. Mr. Chazanian? Yes. Did you have a comment? I did have a comment. I definitely understand where you're coming from, Board Member Aspis. Our approach was to provide the information and the notification of the board meetings is the public setting where people can receive information about the decisions that
193are made. It is ultimately the responsibility of the community. to be at these board meetings to be apprised on the agenda that is why there's the public notification and this is a part of a public notice and we are using this process as the administration to make recommendations and the community and any of those that are impacted by those potential decisions are more than welcome to come listen to us listen online we provided them another opportunity by bringing this back onto the agenda to come and make public comment so you know we have we are continuing to make the case and yet I think what you're also saying is maybe we could send out a letter to let them know you know that hey come to the board meeting even though it's you know the
194the public's responsibility to stay informed uh you know on their city councils their board meetings i think what i'm hearing you say is uh you know that we could send out a memo letting them know that there will be discussions about this matter that would impact you we invite you to attend the board meeting provide that notification is that correct yeah and i think that's i think that's more um you know trying to understand and be put in their shoes And instead of being insensitive or being a smart ass, you know, about it and, you know, that they at least sit here and are online and they see why this is happening. Today, tonight, you gave us more information. And which, that's what brings to mind where our tenants are. I'm looking on here, I'm
195looking on to see if we have any people. Because this is good, what is being shared is good. And before we didn't have that. But, you know, if that's the kind of district that we're going to be just to be insensitive and shit, okay. I'm pretty upset. Again, you know, you guys are put into these positions. And again, I say we're trying to do our best to help our students, our community, trying to attract. And these people that are here, the teachers that are here this school year, are here only because of what was negotiated, what they saw, and what was handed to them. And now we're going to go back and breach. That's the way I look at it. But what was shared here, what we're slowly peeling apart and peeling... the information that
196is good and it shows why and it tells why. So I'm going to retract my motion, Mr. Wells, because, and I'm going to give an example. To the property of my house, there's N2A's water meter. And approximately 20 feet from the meter to the house, it runs the one-inch line to the house. Well, from the meter to the house is my responsibility. From the meter away from my house is NTUA's. There's been a water leak. My water bill shot up, just the water bill, $500 because there was a leak and it finally surfaced. Guess who pays for that? Not NTUA. They're not going to forgive it. I have to pay for that. And so it would be nice to be able to go to them and say, hey, you know what? I didn't know it
197was leaking until I saw the water coming up. But it happened and it happened within that area that is my responsibility. So I have to pay for that and that's $500 on top of the additional utility bill for electricity and the wastewater so in two days I can say Oops, sorry, even though they took an extra week longer to come and service it Could have called somebody else but it would have been twice as much to have them come out and do it but so that's just one of the examples and and again with with the plight to the What is being asked and the services that are being paid for and the fact that these things have to occur? A decision has to be made Again like I said before as much as I'd
198like to Be in that situation and we can provide that free rent We just at this point in time we can't because we don't we've lost the numbers We've lost the revenue. That's the reality And the bills have to be paid. The water has to be paid. The utilities have to be paid. Renovations have to happen. Floors have to be fixed. It takes money. It takes money. So I retract my motion. And to add to that, Mr. Montoya, we see by the numbers here tonight that we're having to pull revenue from other areas because the rent that we're collecting is not maintaining. the current needs, much less allowing for future needs. Yeah, well, if I, another comment as well is, I think if tenants also realize that given the demands of what we have right
199now, all the challenges, what people want, they want upgraded, they want their floors fixed, they want all these things done. If the money that's generated is going to that, is there a gap? Is that money going to be used to address those issues that deal with the here and now? If this is approved, that's the other question. As uncomfortable as it could be? Yes. Because I know we've got a lot of demands to address the list of all the stuff we have here. So is this proposal going to help us address the here and now? deal with it right now rather than push it down the road yes the additional income that would be generated which is about a difference in three three hundred and thirty three thousand dollars with just a hundred and fifty
200dollar increase would support one additional position for the maintenance department and what was discussed is that that maintenance that that dedicated that person would just be dedicated to servicing the the homes right now we have other maintenance people that are dedicated but they're being used in other ways and what we're looking to do is add additional resources again to support that salary and their benefits to immediately start addressing and reaching out to these homes to fixing getting the support that they need immediately so that that is what we're looking for a majority of that now we're looking for a certified is it competent a skilled a skilled carpenter or a journeyman to support that position again so that we're not relying on third-party contractors costing us three four five times as much um to to
201Again, we're dealing on their schedules to get out there and redo a floor when, if we have a journeyman, the discussion was that that would allow those homes to be more immediately addressed that are on standby. So again, what we're trying to do is we're trying to address the immediate needs of our teachers. Question. Because of the work, the scope of work that we can currently do under our current, with our... Staff our staff with our the ones that have a license and we're able to work and be able to do that type of work under that getting that deep into construction we would have to with with having a journeyman a contractor a carpenter that has that that journeyman we would be able to do it in house that right there is that license
202hang on just a minute is that is that going to be sufficient also to cover the the cost of materials it would help offset that, right? But not entirely. It's not going to, in terms of what we're proposing for the $150 increase, it's not going to completely cover all of the net income. net income after the repairs we would still be in the deficit by 767 000 so we would continue to have to subsidize the ongoing repairs with additional funds and we're just talking about repairs we're not going to be getting grants to repair our houses what were grants are to replace houses so again We are still going to have to subsidize it, but it's not at the levels at which we're seeing. We have to move slowly in a direction, and we chose
203an amount that would not be burdensome on our teachers. Again, we have not raised rent in 10 years, and as has been discussed tonight over the last 10 years, the cost of repairs and labor has quadrupled, maybe even by, you know, 100% in some cases where... Yeah, I mean all the conversations that I've had with Ronnie to support them and again the needs of those teachers We're not asking for much but Yeah, we would still have to subsidize so the the expenses We're trying to alleviate from from hiring Contractors and and Well their markup What we're trying to do is is provide some alleviation of that contract cost. Yes. By having it done in-house. Alleviating the contract cost and providing immediate relief. Right, okay, thank you. So, may I? Yes, ma'am. Are we able to
204table it now? and then say next month bring that audience in? Do we have enough time to do that? Okay, and then also Jermaine, I want to know legally are we gonna be breaching anything? I understand the point you were making about the new contract for employees but the lease and the contract for employees are not tied together and so they're separate so the district could whenever it wanted to with board approval modify that contract but is that stated in their rental policy or the lease does have language about amendment yes and administration is complying with the language in the lease and bringing it to the board so administration has done all of procedurally everything right on that on that perspective yes ma'am okay and so i i would like the additional if possible the
205additional information that was requested and then try to remember what was shared tonight so that we can have a decent presentation with those that do tune in or do show up. I think that should have been done in the first place. And just being respectful, I think that should have been done. Board Member Aspis, that would require a motion on the behalf of a member to again, motion to table. And then we could make notification to invite everyone to the board meeting through notification, then also follow up with the information that was requested. Just clarification, did you guys vote to take it off table or is it still on table? We took it off. Oh, okay. You can't retract it after you vote on it. Oh, I retracted my motion to table it again. Oh,
206so you guys didn't vote on it? Mm-mm. Okay, so the options in front of you are to either vote on the proposal or table it again. A motion to table. I have a motion to table. Do I have a second? I second. It's been moved and seconded that we table. Mr. Montoya? I want to know exactly what we're looking for to make that decision. specifically I know we've been discussing from that last month they gave us numbers they gave us numbers again from what I understand there's a deficit and they're trying to catch up with additional staff and even then they're gonna still have to be able to support from other funding what more do we need is my question before I vote do you want me to answer sure To me, I feel like
207being courteous and respectful as a landlord, as the top of the chain, border, the boards. And I think we should at least let them know that this is an agenda item and what could be the cause or the potential. outcome ramifications and and also um before when this first came up it wasn't there wasn't much shared i don't think and tonight there's there was a lot of good questions and and then a lot of information shared and which i think is um the next meeting should we get the tenants or those online or we at least give them that chance and that courtesy to hear why that these changes are happening. And I'd rather it be done that way. And I don't think there's, it shouldn't be that hard. I mean, that's being respectful and
208courtesy. And to say that we're not landlords or, you know, that we're not in that business, that's a big cop-out. You know, those are our teachers. Those are people that came in and worked with our district. And to me, I think that's being respectful. And they should know why everything that was shared, the information. And as far as I see it, the only one here is Kristen, and she'll know. But there's a whole lot of other people that I think had given that information that this item was going to be on the agenda and there was going to be discussions, then I think they would at least be listening or here physically. Mr. Montoya, how do you vote? I'm really struggling because it gets publicly noticed. It has been both times. And the motivation for
209anyone in any circumstance with any of these issues that we discuss can join, can come down, can sit, can listen, could get online and to partake. That's, and again, I'm not being cold about it. I'm not being difficult about it. But when people look, they know when the board meetings are. Agenda's put publicly noticed. Take that time out of their day to come down and listen, especially in regards to the issue that we're talking about now. And the fact that we have one that's consistently here, work sessions and regular board meetings, I applaud her every single time she does for showing up. And I wish we had more participation like that. especially regards to what we're talking about this evening and have been since last month. So my vote for tabling is a no. Ms.
210Askew? Yes. Mr. So? I'm going to have to vote no to tabling. Ms. Askew? I vote yes. And I vote no. Before you go any further, so Ms. Chappell, didn't you say legally that we should table? What I said was you have two options to move forward on a vote on the topic or to table. So now that the table failed, you all would need to vote on the proposal. I have a motion to vote on the proposal. Just to be clear, the proposal would be to motion to approve a $150 increase to the rent distributed equitably across all houses, apartments, and new houses as described two meetings ago. And that was the initial motion, correct? Yes, okay. I just wanted to make that clear so we're voting now. Yes, mr. Montoya I'm gonna give
211my answer, but I'm also gonna make a make a comment with that too That I don't do this lightly I understand where we are understand the competitiveness of what we're trying to do And I understand the totality of the decision and how it's impacting the teachers and under better circumstances without the loss of revenue, I think we would be in a place to be able to do that. But also at the same time with that strategic plan and being able to right-size and look at the consolidation over time with any of the decisions that we have over time, whether it's a state legislature or the board in and of itself, there's things that need to be done and need to be taken care of and addressed through the maintenance department, through the district. So in
212regards to supporting the increase, I vote yes. Ms. Asmus? So I vote no and I think it's very hypocritical to those that vote yes and again I think everything starts with our students and then our teachers and so and it is heartless and To give them I mean all I was asking for was another another month and and to Table with another month and at least get them in here and give them that chance. It's all I was asking for and So it is heartless and For you guys to have and and want the outcomes that you sit here and ask for as a bunch of baloney. No. Mr. Sol. All right, well, before I cast my vote, I want to make sure that as this proceeds with the district, you want to make sure
213that you communicate to all the stakeholders, the people that are tenants, that this money is going to be, because I think that's the communication that has been lost and it's been brought up by Ms. Aspers, that the communication really has not been there as far as like unveiling. like how this money, what this proposal is gonna do. I mean, for the most part, a lot of this is designed to deal with the hearing out to meet the needs of tenants and people that are living there to make things better. And it's not an easy decision. It's not easy to have to make, it's tough. And I realize that, but if I were a tenant and I knew that Yet sometimes you have to break the news to them and say that this is what has
214to happen and that this is what this money is gonna be used for and this is what the purpose of it is gonna be. So that I think has been lost and that's where I think the message came that we're not sensitive in that regard. So that's where I think the administration has to convey that message out there about what this is about. And we're faced with difficult decisions that they're not easy, no matter what we do. With that, I'm going to have to, we're just going to be talking about this again and again and again. I'm going to have to cast my vote and say yes. I'm going to vote yes. Ms. Haskey? I'm going to vote no. I would like to say that I'm committed. Hold on just one. Let me turn my
215volume down. I'm going to comment before I cast my vote. I believe that... May I make a statement? Go ahead. The reason why I wanted to table this item was to consider other options in terms of how the amount that was going to be paid. I know that the employees that are on 200... and 70 day contracts or 218 day contracts that are in the housing have to wait and don't get paid right away. And that in itself, because I was a 218 day employee, and that becomes a hardship. You're adding additional costs to that. whereas you have year-round employees that are able to be able to pay that continuously and my recommendation would have been to do a sliding scale to help with that and especially when we're dealing with people's livelihood and people's
216food I mean are we going to are we And it does come to that, where people actually have to wonder, okay, am I going to pay my rent, or am I going to pay for food for my family, especially with the cost of living now. So that was my thought on tabling it and looking at other considerations than just have, okay, do this, this is what the recommendation is, and this is the only option. Because I know that there's other options that would have been, which would have been, I would have supported. So thank you. I'm looking at the number of work orders that, have been submitted and those that will be submitted and I know that having worked in the maintenance department and in housing maintenance when I was there for 19 years I
217know the the needs and the urgency of of tenants and their frustration with how long it takes to to get those repairs made I think If we table this, we're just kicking the can down the road and offering them more time to be more frustrated with the lack of repairs or the time that it takes to make those repairs. Did the repair stop? Stop? No, ma'am. I don't think it's, it depends on whether or not they paid. Because I think that will facilitate. getting the job done faster. And so I'm going to vote yes. Thank you, Board, for your time. And thank you for all the effort and the conversation. This has opened a great dialogue for what we need to do moving forward. So thank you. I am going to suggest that the administration
218provide with... In lieu of what Ms. Aspas, her sentiments provide an explanation to the tenants as to why it was needed and the advantages of doing it and what the district is looking at. We're required to provide 30 days notice. So as a part of that notice is when we will include that additional letter or communication to respectfully inform them of the decision that has been made if they have not been following along. And we will also directly connect that to what they can expect in the future in terms of what we plan to do with that money and how it will directly benefit them. And in view of what Ms. Aspas was concerned about, if we could include in that also the information that has been shared here tonight. I think that would help
219mitigate some of the concerns. Understood, and we'll do that. Thank you. Thank you for your time. May I? Certainly. If there's, Ms. Chappell, if things do change, are we able to revisit? I don't want to close this off. And I still would like those reports. Absolutely. The board can always revisit this decision and modify it. I mean, say maybe we can get Alfreda to look into some grants and stuff. I'd still like those reports and what we're spending on contractors versus an in-house jack of all trades. And one more other thing. Gosh, I can't remember. Oh, the letter that goes out. Can you look that over and make sure that nothing more? absolutely happy to work with staff on that thank you thank you moving on to item f report and possible board action on
220nmsva legislative resolution by mr carlson and ms chapelle superintendent carlson's listed first so he's doing our intro so you want me to start so this is actually it's going to be a conversation that the board's going to have again and i'll go ahead and start it So this is basically from the NMSBA. Everybody received an email. Every year you see at our meetings, at the NMSBA meetings, that there is a listing of resolutions proposed by various entities, mostly school boards throughout the state. CCST has participated in that in the past. So we are going to open up conversations in a minute. for the board to talk about possible resolutions for the NMSBA to put forth. So I don't know if the board wants to begin with that or Germaine wants to kind of push it
221forth a little bit more, talk about it a little bit more. Do you want to start with the thoughts you had though? Sure. There's some things. This hour and a half. almost two hour discussion about rent was a very, very difficult one. And it was emotional for some folks and it's tough having those kinds of conversations and regardless of how it went down and the final outcome, it's obvious that the state hasn't done a real good job of looking out for communities, especially communities on the reservation. We have lots of rural communities throughout the state. There are other remote communities, but none of them have our needs. Very few have the lack of infrastructure that we have on the reservation. So I would imagine that the board might want to kick around some ideas about
222how the state can support us with housing sooner. I also believe that the state's match for PSFA is flawed, and it needs to be much more... out in the open how the numbers are arrived. I don't think there's any transparency whatsoever. And I've talked to other superintendents about it and they can't explain it. They're happy when their match is lower in percentages like in Gallup. I don't like to talk to Mr. Hyatt about it so much because he's able to do things that we just can't do right now and our hands are tied. So that's another. So those, something that's been upsetting to me in the last couple of years is the state, they have initiatives that they come out with, like I'll give an example, community schools. And they say, well, community schools are
223really important and we're going to fund these. So they fund them. This year, when Ms. Renner applied for the money for community schools, she applied for, I believe, $150,000 for each of the schools, thinking that that's what the state was going to provide because she was told by them. That's what they were set. That's where they were set, and that's what we were going to go for. We were funded at $40,000 per school. And the majority of that funding has to go for personnel. And you can, as you saw today, when Ms. Amrine had gotten up to talk about the positions, the positions were splitting positions for the community schools, we call them facilitators, because we can't call them coordinators because we have coordinators at the district level. But instead of funding us 150,000 times,
224was it five schools? So $750,000, we were funded 40,000 for five schools, which was $200,000. And if you're looking at salaries and you want to hire just a teacher salary, a level two or three teacher plus benefits is close to $100,000. So the public education department has great ideas out there and the legislators, and I shouldn't really say public education department because there's legislation and other ones that fund everything. So the LESC makes recommendations to them and I don't blame them necessarily, because I think the recommendation would be to fund it. Their recommendation is generally to fund everything that we can, but they pulled back on it. So they throw the carrot out and say, you should do this. If we had the opportunity to go ahead and hire somebody for each of those schools,
225but given our current financial situation, that wasn't a really great idea. So we pulled back on that. and then combine the schools together and one person is gonna have to do events at each of those schools. Whereas if there was one person devoted to each school, a lot more would happen in each of the schools. So anyway, so those are some of my thoughts and I don't know where the board wants to go. Obviously this could be a discussion that goes into the night, but if folks have priorities that they wanna talk about, that's where. I'll talk after this discussion here more with Ms. Chappelle and Ms. Chappelle would go out and try to write a resolution, but not try. There is no trying. It would be do. Yes, we'd write a resolution. So I'll
226open it up to Jermaine. Jermaine, you can finish that and then the board can go ahead and talk about it. The other two that we have talked about extensively in the past are unfunded mandates. And the fact that every time the state comes up with something new, they don't change the requirements, the reporting requirements. So there's quite a bit of burdensome, archaic reporting requirements that no one actually looks at anymore. For example, a lot of the information we give, PET doesn't even look at anymore because we give lots of information. So that is something we have talked about in the past as well. Just to remind you, this is a 30-day session, so it needs to be budget-minded unless you get special permission from the governor. So all of these actually would fit within that
227budget requirement, the ones that have been listed so far. And you guys don't actually have to make a decision tonight. We just wanted to open the conversation. We have 30 days. I think that's what it was. Yeah, so we have time to take this up at the next work session if you guys don't want to decide on it today. So I think the bigger discussion that we just had and what you guys stated, Superintendent, about the magical funding of the math that they use that was truly inequitable. I mean, just imagine if we had the same match that Gallup had with regards to Newcomb and how many millions of dollars that would save us. If we had that right now, we wouldn't be having this discussion with increasing the rent by $150 because we would
228be able to utilize some of that discretionary funding to be able to do that or maybe even provide free housing. So that in and of itself to me is really where the discussion lies in drafting that legislation or recommendation for legislation around that. And that direct impact because of all the legislative decisions that are made. that have and do directly impact CCSD and the circumstance because again, what Ms. Aspas had said to Mr. Cetania about voicing those concerns everywhere I go and to anybody that will listen to, I have always said that. The disparity and I used Farmington and I used Gallup specifically because of the disparity that we have. And as I've said time and time again, when it comes to equalization, it is unequal in regards to our kids and how we could
229provide that education because it's relying upon the funding, which in and of itself is unequal. So that is my two and a half cents worth, 35 cents adjusted for inflation. Just real quick, the ending date is actually September 8th. 26th? September 8th. Oh, 8th. So that's before the work session. Yeah, what I think we should also support is increasing educator pay across our district and state. I don't know, ballpark, 5%, 6%, which also ties into, I think, the SEG. What's the highest percentage increase? In recent years, it's been 8% is what I remember. Then that's what should be, 8%. Let's go for that. I say that even if we were Gallup scenario or Farmington scenario, we still should be taken care of because we're under the state. And then the knowledge that we know as
230far as because of their policies, they put us in this situation. And it's just sad that we're so weak that we can't even see that. And our administrators are able to attend places and not voice, just travel, and not do their jobs. But when it comes to our own, our local people, boy, they stick it to them. And I think that's pretty sad. I think another thing we probably should shoot for, given the conversation that we just had, is even like a special pot of money or allocation for an educator housing renovation replacement, 50 to 100 million across the state, that's targeted toward rural, underserved communities such as ours. I would add that in that language, proportionate to. Are we still trying to Make right our impact aid compared to Yes reservation yes board asked
231the board member asked us and that's more of a federal issue at this point Yes, it's still federal. Impact Aid is still federal. And that portion of the federal education department actually stayed intact. They didn't touch it. They didn't dismantle it. They haven't even done it, the dismantling yet, because they can't. They're doing a suggestion parcel of grants. It was created by a colleague of the board. It doesn't have to be done by. So the proposal is to move that impact aid to the Department of Interior. No. That's a scary situation. Because I've worked with Tribal Control Schools Bureau operated and no, I don't think that's a bad idea to move that to the interior. They have a whole lot of issues already. I mean, if you think it takes time for us to get
232money through your department, it's a long process through the department once every year. That's what I'm, I'm just not part of it. So what has come across? Everybody's in the process of creating something now to submit. Once those submittals are received, then that's what they bring to us to look at and review. Then we hash them out. We either accept it or we don't and choose not to as a body, Nevis School Board Association as a whole. So to me, I feel like... Other than just the topic that we were discussing with housing and then other than that, I wouldn't even know what we could bring or what we could put in the resolution. And then just the wages, the raise. But have you asked like the different departments like I'll see this As far
233as I think in that area and then more so in our CTE because along with building and construction Those classes need to be supported by supplies which is you know wood and steel and for welding, how can we get a better price or have those supplies? And that's actually the CTE supplies. Perhaps the state could do that in bulk for all of the school districts and get a better price. The other one that I just wrote down based on listening to you was hard to fill positions. That's been a topic for a number of years and we obviously still have issues with that. Why couldn't we propose a stipend or something from the state to assist the teachers with their housing, those teachers who live on the reservation? If I'm not mistaken, somebody had mentioned
234or there was a consideration, not just on the reservation but statewide, to do that, assist with housing. I don't know if it was last year or a year before. Not that I went to the committee, but I remember reading something about that that was proposed, but I don't think anything ever came of that. But certainly it... Anything doesn't hurt. Yeah, that's my point. Absolutely something to alleviate But I think the bigger thing too is certainly trying to get to PSFA or LESC and state legislation themselves to take into consideration what we had stated here a little earlier about the disproportionate of Trying to get quality educators out especially out on the reservation rural areas when the economic circumstance and considerations are not such in other places where you can do that. It's just, it's a
235challenge. And to Ms. Aspeth's point, they're the ones really who kind of made our circumstance worse by their decisions over the past 10 years. And then housing, stipend housing for where? For teachers who... I mean, where are they supposed to use that stipend at? For their class. Where? I don't understand your question, I guess. You mean for our housing here or like go to Farmington or Dallas? No, just for those teachers that live on the reservation. No, I don't think that they're obviously not suffering as much as the teachers. I mean, the fact that we had to look at raising the rent. And the impact that that's going to be on them, I think if we could make a proposal to the state or whoever, PSFA, somebody to provide an incentive, no, a stipend for
236those teachers who have to live on the reservation to assist them in their housing. And you know, with that, I'm glad you brought that up about the contracted services, like for the speech. To me, I think it's kind of, they're able to have an outrageous and then a big portion of that department's money goes to that, you know, just to pay for that. And then whereas if it was in-house, it wouldn't be. a large portion of that would be used. And I've been asking, doesn't CES or whoever, don't they put a cap on those wages? Or? Yeah, for very low wages, whether it's federal or state. So I will draft resolutions pertaining, I have 11 things written down. And I'll probably group some of them. So not one big resolution, but probably a few ones
237depending on subject matter. And then I can email those out to you guys so we can then meet that September 8th, definitely. Yeah, I have one more. What about, it's actually taken, I think, like two or three years back, but they boosted the pay of the native language teachers. So I think instead of being compensated at level one, they took them up to level two. But I think that one didn't go nowhere because so they're at level one. So in that case, we'll be supporting the move up to level two pay for native learning teachers that have the 520 endorsement at least. Because of the educational attainment and the lack of knowledge when it comes to the pedagogy of education is one of the biggest arguments against that. Except that we know. Sorry. Yeah, and
238then to get them from where they were up to level one was. it was like pulling teeth but they got it because they're on the same level now but to move them from level one to two is where the challenge was because of the lack of educational attainment when you have people at level two with bachelor's and master's not my argument but the argument that was stated but there was a big discussion on that during that sycamore meeting um even chile yazi the table that i was sitting at he was he mentioned why don't we get more community involvement as far as our grandpas and our chaise you know to um because he gave the example he saw one what's her name named Vita she went by and she learned from her grandparents and her
239parents who weren't certified went on and to be a bilingual teacher and now she has to have certification. I think in that respect it's also up to the district to invest in the teachers to build even the skill sets or even just the 520 teachers to give them that additional training on like classroom management all these other tools that way they become effective with being a language teacher. Thank you guys. I've got some really great things to draft some resolutions on and I'll get those circulated soon. So do we need board action on this item? Good. Item 10, executive session. I need a proposal to convene an executive session, discuss unlimited personnel matters regarding appeal to board of termination as... Permitted under NMSA 1978 section 10-15-1H2 of the New Mexico Open Meetings Act. Do I
240have a proposal? Motion. Do I have a second? Been moved and seconded. We open in executive session. Mr. Montoya? Yes. Ms. Aspas? Yes. Mr. Sol? Yes. Ms. Haskey? Yes. Myself, yes. Reconvene in open session. The board has discussed in the executive session only the subject identified in the agenda as the reason for which the meeting was closed. Discussion on limited personnel matters regarding appeal to board termination as permitted under NMSA 1978 section 10-15-1H2. of the new mexico open meetings act do i have a motion motion do i have a second i'll second it's been moved in the second seconded that we reconvene in open session roll call mr montoya yes miss aspers yes mr soul yes miss haskey yes okay um a possible item no Board Member Action, I need a motion to approve the
241written decision discussed in Executive Session. Motion. Second. Second. It's been moved and seconded that we approve the written decision discussed in Executive Session. Mr. Montoya, how do you vote? Yes. Ms. Aspers? No, I don't approve. Mr. Sol? No. Ms. Haskey? Yes. Myself, yes. Request action items and or reports for next or the future meeting. Possible items for next meeting. I don't have anything right now. Anyone else? Yes, I would like to hear since rearranging the athletic directors would like to hear what what the what's going to be the difference or in their and how their um what their job duties are now what what exactly they're you know i i guess just in for the community's sake what what um their job duties are why that was done that way. Anyone else? I'm not sure
242what sort of data the district has at this time, but do we have any assessment data given that we've, I'm sure that some sort of information has been provided, like assessment for students by school, by grade level, and gender, possibly. That could be like quarterly assessment data by MAS, by MESA at the beginning of the year. I think I've seen other districts have taken that assessment already. We heard that. Most schools haven't begun that yet, but by next board meeting, work session probably, we should have some data. Most of those data are immediate. Students take the assessments online. You have access to it pretty quickly. And I guess associated with that would be like attendance reports as well, by school, by grade. and any areas of concern that we should probably be aware of early
243on anyone else i have nothing at this time i will entertain a motion to adjourn this motion second it's been moved in a second do we adjourn the meeting mr montoya yes miss aspers that's a yes i guess yes mr soul yes miss haskey yes and myself yes this meeting is adjourned