WUSD School Board 05/15/25

001Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. it's may 15th my daughter turns 17 tomorrow it's her birthday um so it's may 15th okay ryan can we turn Okay, great. Well, welcome. We'll start again reconvening May 15th, our May regularly scheduled school board meeting. It's 6.15 p.m. Thank you for waiting for us. We were handling a couple different matters over across the way, and now we're here. Why don't we start off with our, I think it's a roll call first. Stephanie Amon. Here. Paul Gorgono. Here. Rich Garnation. Here. Malinari Lopez. Here. Bill Adams. Here. Kylie Hernandez. Here. Zoe Furmankevich. Here. And tonight, Bill is going to lead us in the flag salute. You're welcome to join. Flag's over on one side of the room. Ready? Begin. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America

002and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God. item 2.3 is report out of closed session and we do have a couple items to report let me get situated in the case um in the case of student readmission zero one one zero two four um the board's decision is to not readmit the student do i i made the motion Mullen Ali Lopez is the second. You seconded. And all in favor? Aye. In the case of student readmission number 022025, the decision was to readmit. We have a motion from Rich Carnation and a second from Paul Cogorno. Yes. All in favor? Aye. Thank you. now we're moving to item 3.1 little housekeeping and then we'll get to the reason why everyone's here adjustments to the agenda we have some adjustments yeah so on

003the consent item 4.1 we've tabled that that's not going to be discussed tonight and then we're adding rich it will be discussed but we have to go back in a closed session to discuss it and then we're going to have to vote and then report out after a closed session we haven't had a chance to have the conversation okay so we're pulling it and adding it to the end of the agenda yes okay thanks for the clarification so if anybody wants to know how that's going to work out after our meeting we go back into closed session sometime between 10 and 2 in the morning depends on how much we all talk in that closed session then we'll be able to tell you what happened and then also we had two we had a type

004of graphical so we're adding to the consent item 4.16 which is approval of the district warrants and then also 4.17 which is the administrative regulation 6163.2 which is the animals at school regulation that's also in the consent item so we'll actually have 4.2 through 4.17 when we get to that point thank you any other adjustments to the agenda not at all okay great moving on we are going to celebrate our 2025 windsor retirees Pete Sullivan is going to present this item and thank you all for being here tonight. Good evening, everyone. Thank you all for being here. Appreciate it. It's a pleasure to welcome you here tonight to celebrate our retirees. Let's give them a hand right out the back. And I also want to thank the families, the staff who are attending, and of

005course, the board members who are in support of our retirees this evening. So tonight is about appreciation and reflection. Each of you being honored tonight have given your time and your heart to our district. And we appreciate everything that you've done. Exactly. We could just be done now, right? That was perfect. I didn't plan that. That just happened. Before we begin tonight, however, I do want to take a really quick moment to recognize the efforts of my HR team and Heather Bailey. They have done, yes, go ahead. Yeah, thank you. From the slideshow, which you're about to enjoy, to the food, the music, the organization, and of course, the wonderful gifts. From the cool new bag, the awesome water bottle, the comfortable and snuggly cool California blanket, and of course the Parks Pass, which our

006retirees will get, right? Very cool. I want each of you who are going to be receiving one of these retirees to think a positive thought about Karen Alvarez when you enjoy these items. Because she agonized over every detail, I guarantee you. So thank you, Karen. And thank you, Heather. And thank you, HR team. Appreciate it. So, yeah. So as we begin tonight to honor you and honor your service, I want to talk about the word that brought us here. Retirement. All right. You English people are like, what is he going to do? So I'm going to go off script. This is what I'm going to do. So the prefix re means again. Tire means to literally be tired, be exhausted, to be spent. Well, I don't think that that's what this is about tonight. I

007think tonight is going to be about new beginnings, about being refreshed, feeling good. So in a break from tradition. And from all the rules of the English language, I went to Santa Rosa High School, not Windsor High School, so I don't really know my rules about the English language. Sorry, that's just where I went. I'm going to suggest we use a new word. We coin a new term for tonight, untirement. So, you're not retiring, you're untiring. You are going to enjoy late night movies on Mondays. You are going to lay out on your lazy boy 180 degrees at any time you want. You're going to take road trips on a Tuesday for no reason other than it's a Tuesday and you want to go on a road trip. You can do all of those awesome

008things. And that is not retiring. That's untiring. And that's what we want for you. So thank you for everything that you've done for our district. You've done for our students. You've done for our families. Your impact will be lasting, and we are thoroughly and 100% grateful for everything you've done. I hope you enjoyed tonight's presentation, and I hope you enjoy your untirement. So, we've got a great slideshow for you tonight. Now, as we roll through this, we're going to take... You all the way through with music and everything and if you want to clap clap if you want to cheer cheer if you want to recognize Recognize that's great. And then after the slideshow is done. I'm gonna invite our administrators up to say so sorry to say some kind words About our untire ease.

009All right, Heather, let's roll. Looks like a senator in that photo the same We absolutely paid royalties for that video if any lawyers are watching or listening right up here so thank you for that so i'm going to announce uh welcome up uh some of our administrators not everybody from the list made it tonight so we will be inviting them up and they will be speaking on behalf of the people who are attending and uh karen aka vanna white over here will be handing out the gifts as we go so to kick us off this evening i'm going to invite our principal from windsor high school danielle buckman Thank you, Pete. I like Indiana Jones more than Happy Trails from last year. That was a good one. That was good. You took the music off

010now. Yes, I appreciate that. I appreciate that. So thank you for having me tonight. Two of my retirees are here, and I have the honor and the pleasure of sharing what their colleagues have said about them. So the first person that I'd like to welcome up here with me is Mr. Pete Stefanisco. If you'd like to come stand, that'd be awesome. I was under strict instructions to keep it short and I'm gonna ignore this sorry so I'm just gonna read what some of your colleagues shared Pete was the first journalism teacher helped create our at a core coach the first running teams guided us through enormously challenging issues as a steadfast WDE president parentheses the longest serving in my 30 plus years in this district Pete championed the use of electronic and online media and

011digital tools long before they were standard issue in every classroom. He's a visionary, a kind soul, and an inspiration for decades of students who are lucky enough to be taught by him. I've seen Pete weather personal hardships and professional triumphs with the same humble, steady, positive attitude with a broad smile and a great laugh offered to anyone who got the chance to share a conversation with him. And I've had so many of those. I'm grateful to count him as a colleague and a friend. and I will miss his presence at WHS very much. I also don't know what Krista is gonna do without you. I don't know what we're all going to do without you. Thank you for everything that you've done, Pete. All right, next I would like to welcome up Ms. Gigi. Come

012on down. You guys, this is it. That smile. That's what we see across campus all the time. And that's what I read in every single comment on here. Gigi Carpenter has been a constant positive presence at Windsor High School. Years and years and years and years ago, when I was the senior projects coordinator, she was one of the first staff members who would volunteer to help with makeup presentations for students who failed the first time around. Since then, she's always greeted me with a smile and that has brightened my day on many occasions. I'm going to keep going, you guys. um you have a unique ability to make complex concepts except or accessible and your patience and encouragement made a lasting difference in their lives but it wasn't just your teaching that stood out the

013care and kindness you showed to everyone around you created a warm and supportive environment you were always there to lend a helping hand offer guidance or simply share a kind word your presence made our school a better place and i couldn't agree more we will miss you tremendously Thank you. Yeah. Thank you, Danielle. Thank you, Gigi. Thank you, Pete. All right. Next up, representing Maddie Washburn, I'd like to invite Patricia Chadwick up. Come on up. All righty. I have the honor of talking about the amazing Carol Long. Carol, come on up. I know. Can we cheer for Carol? Carol, Carol. What I know to be true about Carol and you would hear from anyone who has spent time with her on our campus is that she loves our children and loves them immensely. She is

014greatly skilled as a paraeducator. She works with our students of varying needs and different levels of need and that can change within a day. Right, Miss Carol? Oh, yes. Sometimes within minutes. Yet she always seeks to respond with how to best serve and support students in that moment of need. She has been an immense support to her classroom team, the teacher, her fellow para. They are a rock star team. But I know that that has great amounts to do with what Carol does with her skill set, her talents, and again, her love for our students. She understands really what it means to express patience, firmness when needed, instructional support, all of the things that are necessary in the work of a paraeducator. What I want to leave everyone with is a personal story about my

015early interactions with Carol when I onboarded at Maddie. As I was getting to know staff, I had these little quick check-ins with staff. And I said, get to know the principal, come chat with me, that kind of a thing. And she was one of the first to sign up. first of all. And when she did and she came to sit with me, she just shared and poured out her heart about how much she loved our school community, our students and our staff, and how she really wanted to partner with me on how to continue making an impact in her role and at our school. That stood out to me immediately. Following that, I have a birthday that's very early in the school year. Sometimes it works against me and that's okay, meaning I don't make

016it a big deal. It's okay. I'm a September baby. It is what it is. But Miss Carol did some digging, found out it was my birthday, what, three weeks into the school year, and made me one of the most delicious cheesecakes I have ever had. homemade with all of her love and hand delivered it and made sure that I knew I was cared for and appreciated three weeks into the school year that is the heart of this woman and she will be greatly greatly missed it Maddie so give it up for Miss Carol I should add she makes cheesecakes for everyone but it made me feel very special when you say everyone who did you mean by everyone And thank you very much, Patricia. And thank you, Carol. So representing both Brooks Elementary tonight and

017special ed, I believe she's still Deborah Ryan. Come on up, Deb. So Paul Crone was at the reception, but he did leave and I would like to acknowledge his one year with our with our school site at Brooks. Although his time with our district was just one year, he brought with him over three decades of experience in education shaped by years of teaching music, art, drama, core academic subjects and special education supports across multiple grade levels. As Paul steps into retirement, we thank him for his service with us and celebrate the lifelong commitment he's made to the field of education. Now, Cindy Flack. yeah she's watching hi Cindy so I had her committed to coming tonight and then she realized that this could go later and she decided it was past her bedtime and so

018but I still feel the need to honor her Cindy is well known throughout the district well she's well known throughout the county so After more than 22 years of exceptional service, almost 23, we proudly celebrate Cindy Flack, who has faithfully served as the Secretary of the Special Education Department for the Windsor Unified School District since October 16, 2002. Throughout her tenure, Cindy became the backbone of the department, known for her meticulous organization, sharp attention to detail, and tireless dedication. Her ability to manage complex processes while keeping everything running smoothly behind the scenes has been nothing short of extraordinary. From tracking IEP submissions with unmatched precision to supporting staff with unwavering commitment, Cindy consistently set a high standard for excellence. And she let you know that too. Cindy's colleagues universally admire her work ethic, professionalism, and

019fierce loyalty to the team. She brought a sense of calm and clarity to even the busiest days and earned a reputation as a person everyone could count on. Whether offering guidance to new staff, managing deadlines with efficiency, or lending a hand with a can-do spirit, she was always present with energy and care. It's fair to say that Cindy became something of a legend. That's what she tells me anyway. Everyone knew her, not just within the special education department, but people from all over the district and even the school districts in our county seek her out for assistance. Whether it was for help, insight, or just a direct dose of Cindy, she was a go-to person for countless people. Her reach extended far beyond her job title. Her sense of humor and strong personality created an

020unforgettable presence, so much so that some jokingly admitted to being a little afraid of Cindy. But let's be honest, it wasn't really fear. It was the deep desire not to disappoint someone who held herself and everyone else to such an admirable standard. She inspired excellence, and you always wanted to rise to meet her expectations because you knew she had already done the hard work ten times over. And if you messed up, you had to get her a case of Diet Coke. As she steps into retirement, Cindy leaves behind her not just a legacy of efficiency and excellence, but a district made better and stronger because of her presence. Cindy, we are deeply grateful for your years of dedication and care. Your presence will be missed immensely, but your impact will remain with us always. May

021your retirement be filled with joy, adventure, and everything that brings you happiness. Thank you, Paul. Thank you, Cindy, out there. Thank you, Deb. And now, representing Food and Nutrition Services, I'd like to welcome Jennifer Baker up. Come on up, Jen. Good evening. I would like to call Veronica Vigil. After 36 dedicated years. Wow. In the Food Service Department, Veronica Vigil is retiring. She told me every year that I've been here, she's going to retire, and she changed her mind. She finally did it, made the jump. Veronica has been a valued team member and a familiar, friendly face to many. Earlier in her career, she served as a food service driver. transporting prepared meals from the high school which was the central kitchen to all the other sites more recently she brought her warmth and dedication

022to cali and for the past two years to brooks many staff and students remember veronica as their lunch lady and her presence has left a lasting impact on the school community. Now Veronica is looking forward to enjoying well-deserved time with her husband and tending to her beloved garden. We thank Veronica for her incredible service and wish her all the best. And I would like to invite Vicki Langholz. Vicki has been with the Food Service Department for 33 years. Over the years she has been steady, reliable, presence of a vital part of our team. When I first arrived, Vicki was holding things together and making me cry. At the middle school, managing everything without a lead in place, she stepped up without hesitation and made sure the kitchen ran smoothly every day. She couldn't even tell

023me face to face that she was retiring. She had to send me a note. One thing I always appreciate is how supportive Vicki has been to me. Even with all the changes I made, she never wavered, always offering encouragement and cheering me on. That didn't go unnoticed. As much as I'll miss her and her team will miss her. I'm truly happy for Vicki. She's looking forward to spending more time with her husband and all of her grandchildren. Seven. Seven grandchildren. And she absolutely earned it. Thank you for all your hard work, your heart, and your quiet strength. Thank you, Veronica. Thank you, Vicki. Thank you, Jen. and representing the district office and also carrying us out this evening for retirement i'll say adieu to you all and thank you for your service i welcome brian

024williams up to the podium so i'm here to uh to recognize laurie hagstrom um laurie was here for the reception and she's recording me right now on her dvr as she said so hello laurie um i didn't get to work with laurie very long she was in ed services for 18 years but promptly retired as soon as i got there But I did get to spend some time with Lori and she was absolutely fantastic. Now, for 18 years, Lori was in charge of state testing. So this was before computers. She was in charge of this and she still has nightmares of scantrons and number two pencils and boxes and boxes of tests. um she oversaw our inner district transfers so oftentimes she was the first face that a new family coming to our district would

025see and she was a very warm and welcoming presence full circle she was also the person to oversaw expulsions so she was oftentimes working with families who were in crisis at that moment and and handled that with grace as well lori was absolutely instrumental in keeping um this district running after a series of changes and administrations and and directors and everything she was our institutional knowledge and often we didn't know how much lori did until i got a notice from the state saying it wasn't done and then we were like who was responsible for that and it was lori so with lori thank you for all of your service i'm sure you're having a wonderful time taking random trips on a Tuesday or drinking way too much wine tonight in celebration of this We'll be

026joining you later, but I want to say thank you to Lori and I want to say thank you to all of our retirees for your fantastic service and I will hand it back over to the board. Do we have any comments from the board? It every year we do this it gets harder because I recognize more and more of the folks that are going I'm probably one of the few people in the room here that remembers when Pete had dark hair and You know that it's I mean the thing I'm gonna miss about Pete is You know for a long time he represented all the teachers and whatever in negotiations stuff before I was even ever on the board and what-have-you and and way back when I remember the teachers talking about him and they

027said the thing we like about Pete the most is he's just really measured and balanced and steady. He's just really a good listener, can take a lot of comments and ingredients, and he's always able to seem to make a nice something that everybody can eat out of it. And that's been, I think that's going to be one of the legacy, legacies of Pete and him. And, you know, I know lots of kids that like taking his classes. They learned a lot. sometimes we have a regular job and then we do things that are even higher level where we're in service of so many others and so uh repeat i i think he's gonna in our district uh he's been here a long long time but that legacy of of balanced um just just a really

028good person that could It's hard to do, to take everybody's opinion, put it all together, and make something that everybody kind of goes, okay, that works. It's a real talent, and we've been blessed. Our district's been blessed to have somebody with that kind of skill set to represent everybody. You know, I don't know why, but it seems, I don't know, do you guys notice that a lot of the food people are leaving? It's just... Vicki, we're gonna miss you. You've been here from the beginning. And I'll just, you know, Becky Kelly, just a lot of folks that I've known for many, many, many years. And when you guys leave, you're not here. But the things that you gave to our district and our kids, it keeps going on. You've left our district, you're leaving our

029district in a better place and in a better way. And there's hundreds and thousands of kids that you've impressed and made impressions on that have all left our little town and they're where they're at right now and little moments in their life are going to. Have little flashbacks and little moments where somebody will do something and it'll remind them of the kind things that you did for them and So I I love these things and I hate these things And as you get older like I am the they get sweeter and they get tougher But to everybody that's been here and given their time to our kids We all appreciate it And we're very thankful. Yeah, I think he speaks for all of us. We can't follow him. So thank you all. Yes, another round

030of applause. So we'll move on to our next item. Do we want to do a big picture? Yeah, let's do that. So if you're a retiree, come on up, bring your bags. We'll take a big group photo. Okay, next up is item 3.3, celebrating success. Principal Angela West from Windsor Middle School. Good evening, you guys. Good evening, everyone. So tonight I get to celebrate successes at Windsor Middle School. Not sure where to start. I'm so proud and honored to stand up here tonight and talk about the middle school. Our staff and students really rolled up their sleeves. They worked hard this year. We actually exceeded every goal that we set as a site in terms of culture, academics. our students and staff just crushed our run start and CASP testing yeah Our RenSTAR scores were

031phenomenal and I don't want to steal Brian's thunder. I'm not going to tell you about if they were a predictor and they are a predictor for state for the CAS tests how many are huge gains. I'll let that wait for his slideshow but I'm just saying 11% in ELA and 8% in math. So I'm making a prediction that Windsor Middle School if it's not the top middle school in the county that it will be one of the top schools in Sonoma County next year. yes I have all of the other middle schools I have a spreadsheet and I'm keeping track of where they're at I show it to parents I show it to the kids I show it to our teachers I'm like here this is where we're going very exciting I'm speaking of successes

032and celebrations our ELD teachers in our program Jasmine Medina and Alicia Lozano we had 18 students reclassify last year We had 33 students reclassify in our ELD program. It's amazing and that's a huge celebration. I also really want to give a shout out to our families. Lots to celebrate. On our Youth Truth Survey, we asked our families how many would recommend Windsor Middle School to a friend with a middle schooler. 82% said yes, I would recommend Windsor Middle School. That felt really good. Our families joined forces with our Boosters Club to raise money for our site and support our staff. And they actually turned a celebration day into a week-long celebration of our staff that was truly amazing. grateful for all the love and support. Continuing with that love and support is Jen still here,

033our food service team. We're doing tacos to celebrate all our hard work this year with guacs and chip, aqua fresca. So we're really excited tomorrow at Windsor Middle School is going to be pretty fun. And we have a lot of finishing out the year, lots of really fun events, band concerts. We're finishing that electric car. We have our eighth grade barbecue and so much more. So lots to celebrate. Thank you for letting me come up here and share. go jags thanks Angela thanks Angela that sounds amazing we're so excited okay report from student board members is our next item All right, to begin with, we have Brooks Elementary. So some recent events was the School Principals Day, which was May 1st, School Lunch Heroes Day, May 2nd, Staff Appreciation Week, which started May 5th to

034May 9th, and School Nurse Day, which was May 11th. So some upcoming events is the Emergency Weathers Day, which is going to be this Monday, the PTA Meeting Memorial Day and Career Day. So for Maddie Washburn Elementary, some recent events was the Spring Book Fair, which was in April, and then the Open House, which was May 8th. And some upcoming events is the Multicultural Fair, Emergency Weather Day, and Memorial Day. For Cali Calma Cag Language Academy, we have, for the recent events, the PTA Mixer Meeting and Governing Council. And then for some upcoming events, we have Walk and Roll every Wednesday, Open House, and then Memorial Day and Free Dress Day. And then for Windsor Middle, some recent events was the Color Run, Glam and Flow Dance, Staff Appreciation Week, and we finished Ren Star

035testing, which we touched on, we did amazing on. And then some upcoming events is the Giants Baseball Fundraiser, Select Games in April and May, and Memorial Day. For big picture learning, some recent events was Leaving to Learn for Field Trip at Marine Mammal Center, BPL Interest Night, Leaving to Learn Field Trip at Water Treatment Plant, and Second Annual Open House, an LTA Project Showcase. Okay, so for Windsor High School, some recent events. We had the Senior Scholarship Night on April 23rd, a Club Carnival on April 25th, a Prom Nighttime Rally for the community. It was a free event for everybody to attend. That was April 25th. Prom on April 26th, a CTE Showcase 25 on May 1st. And then Fentanyl Awareness Week. And then for some upcoming events, we have a Growth Dance Showcase from

036May 15th to May 17th. A Junior Jaggie Leadership Conference in conjunction with Cali Kameka in Windsor High School on May 21st. And ASB and Officer 2025 to 2026 Training and Awards Banquet on May 22nd. Senior Week from May 27th to May 30th. Seniors can show off their college commitment decisions. There will be a movie night. senior sunset will be may 30th graduation is june 7th and for the first time it'll be in the morning at 10 30 and then for those who can't make it it will also be live streamed on the high school website and then we have project grad on the night of june 7th at for the first time ever epicenter this year and then we have some photos interact one of our clubs donated a buddy bench to brooks middle school

037there are some pictures from our prom nighttime rally and then some pictures from the ct showcase thank you Thank you Thank You Zoe and Kylie All right. Next is item 3.5 our assistant superintendent report where we'll have the site scorecard presentation all right so we decided because it was a packed night that we were just going to combine them all together we did celebrate our retirees but I think at this point we need to celebrate our continuing teachers because they absolutely killed it this year so I want to start with showing you with Maddie Washburn so remember we have early literacy and k and one and then the reading test in second grade so you can see that the early reading scores stayed consistently high we showed some some consistent improvement through early literacy but

038I also want to highlight the great work of the second grade team that brought up the scores at the end and brought some more students up into that that performing band And they also showing that from the beginning of the year to the end of the year, they showed growth in math. For Brooks, now we're starting with third grade, so we start having that state predictor. So that's one of the reports we can run from RINSTAR. It says, well, if the student took the test at this point right now, how would they score on the state test? And so... as you can see if we look at last year's students so this would be so at brooks in english last year students scored 33.12 and this year students are projected to score at 40 showing

039a pretty solid increase in both ela and math as ms west already pointed out a fantastic huge monumental growth in ela of darn near 11 percent and then also which I was super excited to see the almost nine percent increase in math at Windsor High School you'll see the state predictor is just the 11th graders because only the 11th graders take the test but we are predicting to see a pretty significant increase in English and also a solid increase in math any questions about this before we go to Callie All right. Cali, because they take so many tests and have so many different grade levels, you can see that for an Orinstar Spanish, they started the year at 45% and they finished strong at 58%, going way past their goal. For Spanish math, they started

040at 50% and finished the year very strong at 61%. Going into that 3-5 band, you can see that they made significant growth from 48 to 57, 60 to 62, and 39 to 43. Getting into our middle school students, we saw growth in Spanish from 51 to 53. And then what? 38% to 56% in math. So absolutely fantastic growth, yes. Brian, typically we're looking, when we set goals for growth, we're looking at 2 to 3 percent, right? That's what most school districts are looking at for growth. And we blew that out of the water in almost every area. Yeah, so this, if these predictions hold and we've seen early indicators that they are going to, we're going to be having a pretty happy next scorecard at the beginning of the year presentation next year. i don't

041know i think you guys might have to be buying pizza because there's a pretty darn good results so thank you guys for your support um we you know we asked for this we asked to be held accountable we asked to be able to do this publicly um and and i just want to celebrate our principals back there um who did a lot of heart who did all the work i guess i couldn't say that i did any of this who did all of the work along with their teachers and just really came through so thank you guys back there as well over there All right. Thank you, everyone. Thank you. I see a comment. Yeah. So I want to start with sort of thanking Jeremy and Brian and Brian's predecessors. The principals got mentioned. There's

042been a vision here for a couple of years. And because these numbers were nowhere near this kind, and the principals and the teachers and the certificated and classified folks and leaders, but I really want to thank our students. These students that a couple of years ago had numbers that were like minus 10 and minus 20 from some of these 50s. I think we're the same kind of kids that we have now. And I think we have collectively figured out a way to reach them where they are. uniformly it seems you know we didn't disaggregate down to grade levels but to really make that difference because i think we we we talk about what we're selling when we're doing the programs in this but it's really the kids and somehow we have been able to connect

043and and and i look forward to building upon that i think sometimes we forget to the fact that these kids really want to do well i mean there is nothing is disheartening for a kid who's in i mean we start testing in third third grade or eighth grade or 11th grade And for whatever reason, they're not getting an F in class and they get poor scores. And I don't, I mean, Rich has said it eloquently. That doesn't really show the true nature of our students. So I think this synergy coming together, I just wanted to share that because I think sometimes, you know, our product, what we develop with our 5,000 students, you know, Rich was incredibly eloquent thanking our retirees, but I think we need to start at the beginning when we have pre-K

044and TK. up through when they're graduating um they bought in two and and you know this doesn't work if they're not part of this their own solution so across the board thank you very much everybody thank you any other comments on that item no well I'll just reiterate in addition to the students really thank you to the teachers for working so hard and also thank you to the families who have been supporting their students I think without those two people, it takes a village, right? It takes the whole community, but students, teachers, thank you again. And, and our families too. Okay. Moving to staff association reports. Who would, does anyone have a report and who would like to go first? All right. CSEA first. We've got Sheila and Ross. Take it away. Hi there. Chapter

045673 is in the house. CSCA. I've got my partner in crime here, Ross, president. Hello. Sheila, vice president. I'm excited to bring, I like to choose joy in my slides mostly. I have mostly joyful slides. I do have one little black file slide, but we'll get through that together. Anyway, we've been doing a lot. The FDA has been working hard, right? I think maybe try the button. It's green. Okay. Do it again. Okay. Great. Oh, yeah, that's good. So we've been doing a lot. We've been working hard. So let's share. So we had our recent golf tournament. Saw a lot of you out there. We were, I had my treasurer out with me, Cynthia Straub. She was going to be here tonight. She had a family thing, but we brought in over a thousand dollars

046for scholarships. So it was wonderful. The day was perfect. We had the setup. We gave out our goodies. I think it went really well. So I want to thank everybody who helped us. I want to thank Windsor High School for allowing us to be there and letting us have a place there every year. I'm super excited about it. We have more fundraising ideas. I've got a member, Stephanie Clausen, who's all over fundraising, and I'm excited to be working with her. We're going to raise some money, so it's going to be great. This is just a, this is a proud, this is a proud moment. We had three of our own nominees for the Sonoma County Office of Education Classified Employees of the Year. I kind of caught wind of this accidentally and was just like,

047we cannot not say something. So I am so proud of these three that made the nominees list. And Maddie Cleaver at Windsor Middle School, Secretary III, Maria Tamayo de Garcia, Maddie Washburn, custodian, and Christina Becker, our tech office data specialist. These are amazing employees, hard workers. So we are proud. we have been doing we have been moving MOUs haven't we district I mean we're just pumping them out so we created some job descriptions we've got an MOU for leaves to clarify some language that our our people know what the leaves are what it is just easier to read we're gonna keep working on our contracts we've got a lot of stuff to clean up in there but um and then a workability mou and a migrant education special specialist mou has passed for the director

048of curriculum i mean jobs right and that's what we want for our folks so making moves that's what we're doing oh oh fun now i got to bring a little black cloud and i um this is this is hard um we i'm gonna just approach the bench with some some papers i'd like you to and i'm gonna have ross speak on this one a little bit no go ahead that'll be nice starting in October our benefits are going to take a huge jump this is going to be some devastating scenarios for some people that don't really make a lot of money here or don't work full-time people that have families on their plans that are going to go up to a point where it's almost not even worth coming to work here where they may

049have to go work somewhere else like in an outburger that pays better and has better benefits we've had the greatest benefit package of any district for years and then we did a cap on it and after that we've jumped by this will be the second race of benefits in the last two years it jumped up already almost double It's going to double some people's benefits and it's just unattainable for some people. It's really going to hurt families. I survived almost dying in February. And if I didn't have benefits, I wouldn't be here today because they're still helping me out and doing things for me to keep me on the right track to be fully healthy. And if I didn't have those benefits, then it would be a struggle for my family to survive. Just think

050about that. I don't know what we can do. we've talked to uh mr decker austin knows pete knows we just need to try and brainstorm between you folks the district and the unions and try and figure out how we can mitigate this somehow where we're not going to be impacting these families so bad that they can't work here anymore because you really want these people to stay here and we've got a whole bunch of really good folks that work here it's going to affect the teachers it's going to affect us it's going to affect everybody it's going to affect you guys as well your benefits will go up as well we would just like to sit down and try and maybe brainstorm and figure something out amongst us schedule a meeting don't know what we

051can do our contract is solid for the next year or so but there's got to be something that we can try and do this is countywide this is not just our district cbt has decided to take it upon themselves to raise everybody's benefits in the whole county and we know that everything in the world is going up my pg e bill went up 60 today and i didn't even do anything it just went up So money's getting harder and harder to earn harder harder to keep Benefits are always an issue. I would just like to have all of us be able to come to some kind of Understanding where we can fight this together because we're all in this together folks. Thank you Thank you. Thank you okay sheila yes sheila i just want to

052put the thing up here oh the thing that you handed us yeah is this an increase in rates that's going to be that's the average and so may 19th they're going to have some final numbers i think for us so we'll know but we are meeting with cvt next week a little spot at the table to kind of hear from them see what's going on why why what are they doing you know so um i'm curious i want to hear from them so yeah i saw tyler's post earlier that had this yeah but i i couldn't i wasn't sure what it meant yeah i just want to be sure those are yes sorry thank you okay sorry um okay let's get to some some positive things here so next week is classified school employees week

053I know I sent out my email with signups. I think we've got like nine people signing up. I got to tell you, we just had a town hall and there's a buzz in the air and excitement. Our members, this one food service worker, and she's like, nobody has signed up for my shift, you know, and they need to see what I do. And I'm like, well, let's someone will sign up. Don't worry. I'm going to send another reminder. Well, sure enough, the next day I see I see Jeremy signed up. I'm like, oh, he's going to have fun with Heather. He's going to work you. But anyway, this is going to be great. We've got all of you guys. Thank you for supporting us. And for Paul, thank you. We've got a secretary waiting for

054you. And I'll send another refresher email to see if you guys can just an hour out of your week. It'd be wonderful. It means a lot to us. And like I said, this is a CSCA initiative for a healthy district. And I really... I want that, you know, we all want that. And so I think this is just gonna be fun. We're gonna mirror this little thing and give it a try and honor our people. So thank you for those who signed up and I will send you a reminder, squeaky wheel gets the oil. Let's see here. So yeah, you might wanna wear clown shoes, but yeah. Final thoughts from our heart. You know, our people matter. We just had, we have like individual days where it's like a school bus driver's day, the lunch.

055the lunch people's day the administrative assistance day and i know we get lumped into our csca week but i just want to honor that we just had these these folks here and um i love funny little memes and i i brought them here to share so yeah thank you read the school bus driver one because it absolutely is the truth hopefully when you're riding the bus you don't get to experience that or maybe you will also thank you district for honoring so beautifully our retirees because um ah it just means a lot let me tear up uh some of these folks i just can't believe how long they've been around i just it's admirable um and so I won't read the names we've gone through it but thank you to our classified staff okay one

056more name okay go ahead we had a late entry into the retirement pool one of our bus drivers who's been I've known her for 25 years because we worked together at another company. She's been a school bus driver for 25 years. She's been with the district probably, I want to say nine years. She did try to retire one time and it was like, you know, every time they get out, we pull them back in kind of thing. I called her up and said, hey, you want to be a substitute? She's like, okay. And then she ended up driving full time for us. Kathy Luna will be retiring, a 25 year veteran school bus driver. She's put up with a lot of kids in 25 years as well as the rest of you guys have. But

057in the situation where they're on a bus, it's a little more difficult to keep them contained and she always managed to do that. Wonderful lady. Can't wait for her to just hang out with her grandkids. Thank you. thank you thank you all do you have any questions i i always forget to ask that um i don't have a question i have a comment i think bill has a comment okay i just well since you're here your presentation reminded me we i have someone else to think we talked about scores and i didn't mention our classified employees who also are integral to making the school day and school system function. I mean, from when you get picked up on the bus. And I'm sorry that I did once do one of those things on the bus

058when I was in kindergarten. I won't say what it was, but it was very embarrassing for a long time. That's what we're here for. But, you know, from bus drivers to secretaries to lunch ladies mostly. And I don't know if we have any lunch gentlemen, but if we did, custodians, everyone, I would just want to say thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. And Bill, you wanted to say something too. Before our friends from CS, go ahead, Ross. And before Susanna comes up, I spent a number of years on the... Sonoma County Management Advisory Council. It's the management, not union group for before I retired out of county council. One out of the box idea is to try and bundle together the public employees throughout the county. There's 4,000 who work for the county.

059We probably have 10 to 12,000 CSEA and CTA members amongst all the districts. And we're in silos now and we're. middle to large size school district but i i would love to have a conversation that's not outside the box of figuring out how we break down those barriers and say look we're going to bring 40 000 insured people to you not five or six hundred which is what we have for our cbt um but nothing against our friends at cbt but that's it's a market thing and i think that that's something we might want to think about and i'd be happy to have that conversation strength and power and what you said yes sir All right, Susanna from WDEA, take it away. Susanna Pepper, President, WDEA. So as we wind down the school year, we

060do have so much to celebrate. Let's start with the most important thing. Both boys and girls varsity swimming brought home the pennant. And we did have a third place in the boys 50 free at NCS. I'm not naming names. We are saying farewell and congratulations to our class of 2025 survivors of two disastrous fires and a crazy worldwide pandemic that kept us all home or masked for nearly two years. And then we say the same to our retiring colleagues. And I find myself reflecting on all the changes we've witnessed in education from our earliest days as students to the final scenes of our careers. There have been so many changes for the better. The technological advances have brought us from the old ditto machine to now when any ditto ever made can be pulled up

061in an instant on this tiny device in our pockets. That worldwide pandemic reinforced what we always knew. Society cannot function without us in our classrooms. So to my escaping colleagues, I say mazel tov, my friends. This is the deep one. And thank you for spending your lives engaged in what Suzanne Maxson used to call right livelihood. So yes, we do wind down the year in celebration and hopefully in deep reflection. And I wrote this all down because I really didn't want to forget to say any of this. So on that note, I want to take a moment to reflect on how we evaluate student progress in this district, our Ren Star, our universal screeners, and the role that standardized test scores now play in our scorecard. And Windsor Unified School District has had a confusing

062relationship with them for as long as I've worked here. And I think I finally understand why. We've started treating these scores as an ultimate indicator of whether students and by extension schools and educators are succeeding. Whether those scores rise slightly, hold steady, or dip a few points, the real question is, what do they actually tell us about our student learning? And the truth is maybe not very much. Standardized tests offer us a limited snapshot the size of a postage stamp. They measure a narrow and rigid range of skills under highly specific conditions in a format that doesn't reflect how students use literacy or numeracy in real life, especially in their current digital form. These tests reduce their depth of knowledge to what I've come to call pick, click, and next. That's not reading for meaning.

063That's not thinking critically. That's just navigating a system. The more we prioritize these scores, announce them publicly three times a year, and single out schools, grade levels, and specific subjects, the more we risk encouraging classroom practices that prioritize test performance over true mastery. Teachers feel pressure to focus on strategies that improve scores, test-taking techniques and shortcuts, instead of the deeper, slower work of helping students build lasting reading habits and comprehension skills and math fluency and meaningful application, which is really what our educators should be trained to do. And that's really what our students deserve. Our students need to be literate, truly literate. our students need to understand and do math truly be able to use the math process to vast to process vast quantitative information that is thrown at them every day such as that

064scorecard you just looked at And we owe them that. I have come to realize as I watched the saga of Renstar results play out in front of me this year, that either great scores, low scores, no flat scores can tell us definitively whether they are or not truly literate or have truly mastered the math. As a district, let's ask ourselves, does Renstar measure what really matters? Are we valuing the kinds of reading and thinking and calculating and analyzing that students will carry with them through Windsor High School into college and the workplace and as positive, productive contributors to their communities? We should not treat these universal screener scores, whether they move up, down, or sideways, as a true reflection of any learning. And really increases can be just as misleading as plateaus, especially when they

065come at the cost of narrowing instruction or cutting out richer parts of the curriculum. Instead, going forward, let's commit to using multiple measures in every scorecard and let's trust the professional insight of educators. Let's keep the focus on meaningful, sustained learning, not short-term gains in a system that too often rewards the appearance of progress over the real thing. A drop needle snapshot isn't enough when our task spans 14 years of learning and growth. It's just too small a sample to guide us. We can do better on what data we gather and how we use it to inform our practices. We just have to. That's it. We just have to. All right, that's all. But in closing, as we head into summer, our teachers are looking forward to resting, recharging and catching up on all the

066things they couldn't get to during the year. And I'll still be here. I'll see you next board month next month's board meeting and to my colleagues. Have a great summer. I'll see you next year. I just wanted to say thank you again for your comment. I appreciate it. And I'd like to add on to it because I do deal with, I take AP classes, so I have to prepare for a big test at the end of the year in May. And we both recently finished taking those big tests. Very stressful. But I do think the environment in the classroom, there's... a lot of different things that are happening. And it's not just about taking a test. You're learning different ways to apply the education that you take from those classes. And then you use that

067knowledge that you gathered from months of... just studying and putting in all that hard work and then you're applying it to a big test. I do think that's important to acknowledge that there's various different spectrums in the classroom. It's not just about performing well in a test, but it's about the relationship that you form with your educators. It's the relationship that you form with your community and your peers. But these tests are just good indicators. It's like a pulse check. It tells us if we're heading in the right direction, but it doesn't exactly specifically diagnose a problem. So I do think that RenSTAR, I do think that state testing is important, just like the AP tests are important. It lets us know if we performed well in the class, but that doesn't mean that the

068things that we learned in that class is unimportant or we didn't learn anything in that class. It's just a good pulse check to where we belong. Okay, great. Anyone have anything else? well thank you Susanna for your comments um we are moving on to board of trustee reports item 3.7 and I think we've got at least one yeah I was sorry that I missed last Month's meeting. I learned my colleague was also sick. Went to a number of things as the year is wrapping up. One of the ones that was really special was the April 23rd CSEA recognitions. We had three nominees. I think there's about 10 categories. I would hope that we figure out and ask from both the board and the administration. that we really look at those to say we have stellar

069performers in every category and to really kind of turn over that leaf. But it's really, it's an eye-opener. I mean, it's a delightful thing. It's over at SCO. They'd like to have it in a bigger room, and I think maybe next year they will. So congratulations to our three nominees, and I'd encourage us to really look deeply to the broad spectrum. Again, I think there's nine or ten different categories that we can talk about that and promote that for next year. Thank you. i've got a bit one a moment of humility we got dethroned at the windsor athletics fundraising golf tournament we were multi-year champions and then you put me on your team just saying and then and then our good friend tim persons who's a local contractor he actually Done some of my stuff

070and Jeremy's and I'm sure half the people out there. Anyhow, Tim brought his gunslingers and his... is what do you call those? Ringers. Yeah, ringers. And we basically got into a competition of who was going to pay more. Every little hole had a like, if you pay $10, we'll have one of our Windsor High School pro golfer dudes, those little skinny guys that can hit the ball a mile. They'll hit it like 200 yards, but if you donate $40, they'll hit it 300 yards. And if you give them... a hundred they'll put it in the hole for you too and that was like at almost every hole so i'm not surprised that windsor athletics had record amounts of money that they made this year there was one where we did pay and there was like

071a hole in one but out of just sheer pride we would we didn't take the the one but our friend tim did and so they beat us by that exact number but i'm not I'm just, you know, it just is only going to make us try that much harder next year. Right, Austin? So Austin and I will, Austin and I will, our team is going to go after it again next year. Anyhow, so that was the humbling news. The other is, is one of the nice things about social media is that people, when they get information, they can put your little name in the thing and all of a sudden, bloop, you get a little notification or something that there's something going on. and so and i got one on uh the other day and

072it was about the new cell phone policy that's just got passed in the state and it's going to be coming down and uh i said hey i'll look into it and as a board we'll start working on it whatever and our administration is johnny on the spot they already have got it and it's on the agenda tonight at 5.9 it's one of the things we'll be discussing so hats off to the administration for being really aware of what's going on and bringing the cutting edge stuff to us that we need to start preparing for and looking for uh that was number two the third thing was bill great point you actually took it and said it almost exactly how i wrote it on my note about how i think superintendent decker should talk to all

073his other superintendents in the county and say hey we got 500 employees you got 700 we got 200 you got 900 and put the power of our numbers together the bigger the pool the better we have of an economic ability to get our drive our prices down for our health stuff i don't know when the last time even California Value Trust has even gone out to bid or had bid on the services or whatever. All I know is that I've been in private practice for 30 plus years. Competition always keeps your pencil sharper. your product better and so I think to build your point I think that that would be a great thing and I think Jeremy is in a position where he can meet with those superintendents and start seeing how to make something

074like that happen and into our our units a same thing you know reach out to your your co parts and the county I think that there's a motion or a movement that Could come together and do that so all those things there now for the thing that I need to kind of semi apologize for in advance It's kind of important. I'm gonna use a little bit of humor, but I'm really kind of irritated and I need your help I need everybody in this room's help and he everybody at home's help and he'd everybody who's not listening I need their help too. We need their help first off when I I was considering run for the school board I was really insecure about doing it One, mostly because I'm associated with a lot of groups of

075good people and they don't use expressive construction terms. And I do. And I try really hard not to. And all the years I coach, I always told my kids they didn't. And if they did, they had to do push-ups and stuff and all that good stuff because I really wanted to try and set a really good example for the kids. And I was concerned that I might get a little irritated or upset and mad when somebody did something and I might toss out a little. word that I shouldn't use. And so Heather Cullen, one of our teachers who I know really well, she said, Rich, you'll do great on the board. Just don't use your little Richisms. And I was concerned. And so anyhow, so when I got sworn in, I made a little bottle,

076had the bottle made that says, I swear, if I swear, I'll donate 50 bucks to Heather's music program. Well, Heather isn't here anymore. She retired kind of temporarily. She's back East. Her and her husband, Reg, are doing some charity service work. But in the spirit of Heather's good reputation and history, I've got a couple hundred dollars here that I'm going to donate to the music program. And I'll explain to you what they're for. So here's two bucks, a hundred bucks. I'm going to give it to Jen in a minute. I'm going to tell you who it's even for. So on Tuesday night, have you guys ever heard of the... Phrase that a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich you ever heard that before well the reason it is because the ham sandwich isn't there

077and Everybody gets to talk about the ham sandwich about how the breads bad the mayonnaise is spoiled You know it was a skinny pig that they got the ham from you know they just say whatever they want well we were at a similar sort of event on Tuesday night, and I'll help people looking at where you going with this, but We were the ham sandwich. And at the Planning Commission, the way the rules work is if somebody is on an agenda, they get to talk about it. If you're there and you get to listen, you get three minutes. Now, we were granted four, but you don't get to talk very long. And then after you say something, they get to say a whole lot more stuff again. And you don't get to go and say,

078wait a minute, that's baloney that you just said. And they just kind of get to do it. And so as a district, we went and we were talking about a school site of whether we need it or not and whatever. And people were saying all kinds of things that were not accurate in our humble, most accurate opinion. And we didn't get a chance to say anything. One of the things, one of the planning commissioners at the end of the night said, I'm amazed that there's nobody here from the school district other than the school board. No parents, no teachers, no students. No one's here talking about this. The reason why this is important to me and why I really got really irritated to where I actually broke my own little set of standards that I

079really kind of want to live to be is I've been here a long time, 30 plus years. My kids came through our Windsor school districts. My kids came when we had a zillion kids stuffed in a classroom. We had it where we were in portables. It sucked. But you know what? Everybody pulled up the bootstraps, everybody worked hard, and we just went through it because we made the best out of whatever the situation was. We've built our district and what we have over the time. But we all know Brooks has got tons of portables that they leak. We have facilities that aren't the best. We got to a certain point, but we haven't had the consistent reinvestment of funds to make these things work. Windsor hasn't had any building at all in the last 10,

08011 years. A lot of you people that live here now weren't part of the boom way back when. Now, the school district wasn't a unified school district even back then. So I'm sorry for the little history lesson, but a lot of us old people that have been in this town for a while, older people, experienced people, however you want to put it. We saw what we went through. We could go through that again because some people are lacking foresight. They haven't gone through it before. And honestly, because somebody just wants to stick an extra 10 million bucks in their pocket. In my opinion, at the expense of our kids, our board is going to appeal the planning commission's decision. If we don't have a school site to house all these kids, we're going to be

081shoved in like sardines again because we're still going to have to take them. And where are we going to have to put them? We'll have to put up new rent, new portables. It's going to be that whole cycle again. And this is why I'm irritated and I'm passionate about it because we did it once. It drives me nuts when you see something coming and you don't fix it. I don't want history to repeat itself. I want to make sure that my kids went through it. I don't want my grandkids to go through it. I don't want the other kids to go through it. And we can avoid it. It's a matter of will. And it's a matter of us letting our elected folks know that, hey, we demand a certain level of things for our

082kids. Whether you have kids now or not, your kids got certain benefits. Your grandkids, somebody else's kids. We need your help. We need people to come to our appeal for the town council, at which point we'll actually be able to talk and go. So for this $200, I want $50. One of them goes to the super slick lawyer from San Francisco who makes. Oh, man. Man, you guys want to talk about money? Near grand, an hour. An hour. And they got to say all kinds of wonderful things that we didn't get to rebut, right? And get to say her opinion. So 50 bucks of it is for that blonde, cutesy little lawyer from San Francisco who makes a lot of money every hour. The other 50 bucks is for our town of Windsor's attorney who

083was saying all kinds of stuff that I can't wait to impeach that was saying things that... You know, I don't think even hold, it doesn't even, the other 50s for the town of Windsor's lawyer, that he's not the normal lawyer. He was just there for the Zoom call. That's for him. And then the other 100 is for two of the words I used, and I'm sure for our old town manager, who is their paid consultant, who's now a school expert, who knows. How many, how big a school or if we need a school for the kids that are here, going to be here, and they don't listen to anybody in the school, the actual educators and education people, they don't listen to them, but they listen to those guys. So I got 200 bucks for

084those wonderful people who are experts in what we need in our town for our kids and our students. I can't tell you how important it is that our community gets engaged right now. If we don't get engaged, we're going to have a whole bunch of homes getting built. We have a ton of apartments getting built right now with very little oversight. This North of Verada property, it already has asked for eight exceptions. If I went to go build a subdivision, I don't get any of those exceptions waived, but they get those eight. And then they have a ninth one that they want. And the ninth one is at the school site. doesn't get reserved or dedicated to the school district for it. They want to sell it to us for somewhere between three and six

085times more than they paid for the whole entire 60 acres. I don't want history to repeat itself. I need your help. We need your help. Our community needs your help. Things are sliding under right now and people don't even know it. So this is why I'm taking a little bit extra time to bring it to your attention that folks do your research, learn on your own. If you have questions, ask. But right now we need your help. The town needs your help. And we're the ones, our board was there and that was it. We need the rest of y'all to be there. And that's kind of it, I think. Thank you. Sorry. Pass that to Jeff. Yeah. So I'll add a little bit on to that just because, you know, you see conversation on social

086media and it I think people are like, why are they focusing on this school site that like they don't even need right now? And what ended up happening? Our town has a law. Basically that if there's some building going on big enough building the school district can say we need a school site set aside from that land and we need to get it for a fair price and This developer doesn't want that to happen. So he has brought in this lawyer to basically say that law is not lawful and To make other arguments and and basically this is just our right to plan ahead To so that we can like make sure that all of we use everyone's money right it's not our money it's everybody's and we try to get a good deal for

087the things that we do because ultimately we've got a lot of educators who are experts at what they do and up on the board we are primarily responsible for finances and making sure that we're being good stewards of everyone's money so Yeah, so there's a 2040 general plan which I'm not an expert of but I know it means we got at least 15 more years until then and I think we're planning until then so when we talk about a school site we're thinking Way in the future. We don't know what the numbers are even gonna be. We're just thinking we need to have something There in case we ever do need to build And that we have a plan we like to plan Right So that's what the projections show that we actually will need

088it so that's before then so that was that's the reason for the meeting and normally I wouldn't even think we would need people to come to a Planning Commission meeting because we really try not to burden you guys with having to come and do things we would think they would just know if the school district comes to multiple meetings and says we need this to be set aside that they would just take it in good faith and do it but they were kind of like Oh, well, you don't have a lot of rising enrollment like right now. So why do you need it? So we do have to ask for you to help us with this and to come and show your support just that we should be able to plan ahead and we should

089and the town should follow their own rules that they created to make sure that we can do that. So that's why we're asking for your help. We're also going to need your help with the bond, but I won't bother you with that yet. But we need we need to get our our. Everything in line. We need a site set aside. We need to get these portables that were already getting a little old when I was in elementary school. We need to replace those. So we need to do those things. And that's what we're planning to do over the next couple of years. And that's the reason for this. And actually, and Stephanie brought a good little point up that I forgot. I was on the general plan advisory committee 30 some years ago, 30 years

090ago. And the same arguments that the developers are using right now. It's the same arguments that the developers used back then. Oh, you don't have the enrollment. You don't have the this. You don't have the that. And then, boom, we were here, and the school district was playing catch-up. Again, I mean, I wasn't on the board. I wasn't anything. I just got suckered into being a wrestling coach. But I was a dad and I had kids and I had other parents and friends and we all had, I mean, a lot of the stuff that our district has was from parental donations and effort and work because that was the only way we could afford to do it. So it's deja vu all over again that, oh, we don't need it. We don't have the numbers,

091blah, blah, blah. And then boom, they go. Our problem is this. there's a mirage out there that there's all these school sites that we could go oh if it's not that one you could go to this one or that one or this and this and this for a neighborhood school you can't You don't we don't have all these sites the fire precludes three all the thing on that reminds me of something that I want to say part of our plan and I know Jeremy's Communicated it but sometimes I think we need to communicate even more just so everyone knows what our plans are is to change from the cluster model that we have now eventually where it's you know Pre-K through second grade is at Maddie. Three through fifth is at Brooks. It would be

092pre-K through five neighborhood schools, one on the north side of town, one on the south side of town. So Maddie would stay. Then we'd have this bigger area to build a new big elementary school, which will solve some of the traffic problem that you hear people talk about a lot too. So that's the thinking behind the strategy. So it all kind of comes together. I just want to make sure you know why we're thinking that area and kind of... what the bigger plan is. So, no, it's okay. Anyhow, I don't want to dwell on this more. If you guys have questions, reach out. Everybody's got my cell phone, emails, whatever. Me, Stephanie, whoever. We've all been working on this. Please reach out. There's 100% transparency. There's no funny business going on on our side. A

093lot of funny business going on somebody else's side. Like I said the other night, I think 50 million bucks a profit is plenty for the developer. I'm not going to roll over so he can make an extra $10, $12 million. Not at our kids' future. And this is a 50-year future. But you know what, folks? Politics being what they are, we need your help. And because our town folks, they kind of think they're in the pickle. And I think we need to let them know that, hey, we're going to support in the schools. And it's not supporting the schools. You're supporting our kids is what it really is. So anyhow. more to come thank you for indulging but we really really need your help thank you thank you okay any other board member reports I

094don't think so okay we're moving on to public comment thank you for waiting to do public comment on non-agenda items I'm going to read the little blurb since we've got quite a few people any person may address the board on any consent action item or item not listed on the agenda I'll hit the highlights. We ask that comments be limited to three minutes, total of 20 minutes on a topic. You know the drill. Go ahead. Good evening. My name is Gene Sandman, and I'm a teacher at Windsor High School. In addition to teaching the health class for 23 years, I'm currently teaching the Circle Keepers class for the fourth year. The Circle Keepers class is a restorative practices-based training class. for students of all grades 9 through 12. The students are trained on how to

095design and lead circles that support a positive and safe academic environment and culture for the community of Windsor High School. This year alone, the Circle Keepers have led circles for over 750 students, particularly focusing on supporting our newly formed and critically important freshman seminar classes. In addition, they have led circles for numerous other subject matter courses like math, avid and health. Since the creation of this course seven years ago, it has historically had a low class size. With the continual budget challenges our district faces, the class often finds itself in the crosshairs of being eliminated based on some criteria of the worth of the class to the students and community of Windsor High School versus the cost to the district. I personally do not understand how the worth of the course can be disputed solely

096based on the number of students enrolled as opposed to the hundreds of students and community members it reaches as a result of the structure and the intent of the course. Though we are encouraged by the 34 students who have currently requested the class for next year, it is not clear just yet how many of those students can actually fit into their schedule and it is unclear to me just what the magic number of enrolled students is for the district to continue offering this vital class. There are many benefits to having such a unique in a central class at Windsor High School, and I could speak for well over the allotted time on the merits of the class and how it prepares not only the circle keepers themselves, but also the other students they serve to

097be college and career ready upon graduating from high school. Thus, instead of hearing from me, who better to hear from than the individuals we are charged to serve, the students themselves. Hello, my name is Emmanuel Reyes-Vasquez. I'm a Windsor High School graduate, and I'm like, sorry about that. I just also wanted to basically tell the importance of why I believe this class should remain active in the Windsor High School. So I wanted to start off by explaining what this class is to me. What Circle Keepers is, is a chance for students to build a tighter and more connected community within the school and with the students inside of Circle Keepers. This class creates an environment for discussion and for everybody to be heard. I see a class where you learn more about your peers and

098about yourself. And I see the skills we learn that will no doubt be useful in our lives moving forward. And I see a class that must be available for the future students of Winston High School. And I want to explain what this class has done for me. Circle keepers has brought me together with the people with the wonderful people here and the wonderful teachers That want to put in the effort of creating and strengthening this to the communities within within the school the people that are in this class know this and Excuse me know this know this and want to be there with this classroom. You are guaranteed to speak every day Like I remember back then I only ever spoke in a classroom Whenever I wanted to like give an answer to your question,

099but But in Circle Keepers, I get to speak my mind on whatever topic we are on. This class creates discussion in a way. This class creates discussion where everyone gets their turn to speak. I got to hear so much from my peers about their thoughts and opinions on topics that I endowed would have never been discussed in a regular classroom setting. And if someone isn't ready to speak, they aren't forced to speak, this class gives them that choice. It allows the students to engage with the group instead of raising their hand to talk, being chosen to talk. Not only that, this class gives us guidelines on how to conduct ourselves while speaking inside the classroom that can easily be applied to our day-to-day conversations. This class has not only given me the skills necessary to

100be able to speak with anyone, but it's given me no short supply of people I can count on. Now, let me tell you how this class has changed me. Back when I first started this class in junior year... excuse me, my junior year, I could barely imagine myself speaking in front of so many people. And this class has given me the opportunity to grow into a more confident and competent person. And I don't want to take up too much of your time, but let me tell you how the community benefits from this class. The community at Windsor will benefit from this class still being active because it gives students the skill needed to talk to a large audience of people. And not only that, ask questions that... Excuse me, sorry. Let me start over here.

101So in my time as a silker keeper, our main focus isn't just to ask the questions we want to ask, but to ask questions that will get both a meaningful answer and to get students to think. So keepers are all about learning the audience, finding ways to not only understand them, but get them to understand you. This is what builds communities. This is what shapes minds. Sorry, this class will both improve the students taking it and the community surrounding it. Thank you so much for your time. Hi everybody. I'm gonna do a little something different here. Okay. If I can have a volunteer from... Can you do it different with the microphone? That way everybody at home can hear you too. Yes. Thank you. So I'm gonna do something different here. If I can ask

102for a volunteer, it can be anybody. All right. So my name is Alejandra Calderon Maris. Let me start off with the introduction that I would like to do. So this was me at the beginning of high school. I believe it was my sophomore year and this was me walking. I do not feel heard. I have a lot of things going at home and I don't feel heard at school. And the more that I try to, I don't know how to speak. A person comes up to me from the circle keeper class and asks me, can I invite you to a circle keeper? He asked, can I invite you to a circle keeping class? And I said, yeah. Not being on top of my mind what it was, the moment I crossed through that classroom, it

103was a new beginning of my new journey as a woman. You can sit down. Thank you. Dear community, my name is Alejandra Calderon as I presented myself. And as I look back on my journey, I can confidently say that the Circle Keeping Program played a powerful role in my growth, both as a student and as an individual. When I was graduating high school, I never imagined how useful the Circle Keeping Program would become in my everyday life. We started as a school activity, quickly grew into something much deeper. It became a foundation for how I live, lead, and connect with others. This program, and through this program, I learned the power of creating safe spaces where everyone's voice matters and every perspective is respected. I had the opportunity to lead circles both alone and with

104my classmates. by asking meaningful questions and encouraging critical thinking within my school community. Those experiences taught me to be a leader, not just by speaking, but listening and understanding. I've incorporated the values, morals, and techniques I learned through this program into my workplace, personal life, and community life. It taught me to approach life with empathy, confidence, and an open mind. But most of all, it helped me see the strength and vulnerability and the beauty of building community through honest conversation. To anyone unsure of the impact they can make, just know that one circle, one conversation, and one shared story can truly change lives. This program changed mine, and it continues to guide the woman I am becoming every day. In one word, in a quick phrase, the circle keeping is the definition of being a

105leader, but being open to also understand that by being a leader, you are still a student learning. Thank you. Don't say anything, Reg. we were on the general plan advisory commission together so we're buddies we go back a long way and I do want to help you with that so talk to me about it so six weeks ago we had the inaugural voices of Windsor round table meeting it's it was in place of a normal council meeting and people sat at small tables and we had and we had dialogues around these small tables and then came together with a whole group. Three of the circle keepers stepped up to the plate to help facilitate that meeting. The feedback we got after the meeting was they added a lot because most of the people in the

106meeting were over 50. And so this generation was adding. adding thoughts and ideas that weren't necessarily coming from the elder people. At the tables, they met with council members because the council were all there, town staff members and community members, bringing those multiple generations together. What do the circle keepers do? They do deep listening and conversations that develop a community of trust, caring and belonging. And that's why we need them. You can't evaluate what they're doing in the same way as we can evaluate the tests. It's a different contribution that they're bringing to the community. That's all I have to say. Hi, my name is Sarah Fields, and I'm a senior who has been a part of the Circle Keepers program since my sophomore year. When I entered high school, I came from a middle

107school outside of the Windsor District. I didn't know anyone. I felt like an outsider, uncertain of where I belonged or how to find my voice. Circle Keepers became that place for me. It offered a true sense of community when I had none. It was the first place where I felt invited to speak, to listen, and to grow. This program has shaped me in ways that I'll carry for the rest of my life. I used to be terrified of public speaking, but in Circle Keepers, I was met with encouragement, never judgment. Each day, the open, supportive environment pushed me to step outside my comfort zone, and slowly I began to speak up. I learned to be a leader. I became a better listener. I was challenged to think critically about difficult topics and respond with empathy.

108These are not skills you can learn from a textbook. They come from real, lived experiences. As I prepare to attend the University of Pittsburgh to study nursing, I know I'm ready because of what this program has given me. confidence, compassion, and the ability to connect with others. But Circle Keepers doesn't just impact the students in the class. It brings something powerful to the entire community. When we lead circles on important topics like mental health, community, and conflict resolution, students truly listen. It's students helping students when they need it most. In these moments, there's no hierarchy, just honesty, trust, and connection. That dynamic is incredibly powerful in a way that a teacher, a video, or a textbook cannot replicate. The shift in energy from when we enter a classroom to when we leave a classroom is

109undeniable, and the teachers notice it too. Over the past three years, I've had the honor of leading circles with hundreds of students, and I've seen firsthand how they open people up, build empathy, and change the way we relate to one another. Please do not take this program away. Circle Keepers gave me a space to belong when I needed it most. It has empowered me to grow into the person I am today. And it continues to do the same for countless others. Future students deserve the chance to experience what I did. Please do not take the opportunity from them. Thank you. So hi, my name is Erica Mitchell and I am a senior at Windsor High School. Circle Keepers is more than just a class to me. In fact, I can't put it in words how

110valuable it is. It's only my first year being a Circle Keeper, but I've learned more from this class alone than any other class I've taken. Even though this class does not revolve around academic skills, it's life and emotional skills. All that taught me how to communicate with others, myself, and even learn how to manage life. These are skills young people don't have the opportunity to explore, but this class gives them that. This class gives students a voice and the opportunity to learn more about themselves and others that shouldn't be taken away from them. Growing up, I've always had trouble making friends. From the first day I started school to even this year, I've had trouble with meeting and trusting people. Joining this class was the first time in my life I felt like I belonged

111somewhere. From the first moment, I saw how welcoming and genuine everyone was. It gave me a safe place to be comfortable and feel like myself and showed me what it feels like to truly belong. The community built through this class is unlike anything I've ever experienced. The bond I have with my classmates is surreal and will always hold a special place in my heart. They helped me grow and even learn how to challenge myself. I've always been a shy person. Presenting or public speaking has always been a big fear of mine. I was never considered a confident person growing up, but this class changed that. Through the group-led discussions our class holds, or the circles, it requires you to speak truthfully and honestly about your thoughts. Initially, it was hard, but as the process went

112on, it felt more comfortable and natural being truthful with my feelings. I've seen its effects in my other classes because presenting has become something enjoyable to me. When I first joined this class, I wasn't in a good spot with my mental health. I've been in recovery for an eating disorder for a year and a half now, and going through that has been the most challenging experience of my life. I felt lost and even lost myself because I didn't remember who I was outside of it, which was frightening. This class, however, changed that for me. Through the people I've met and the skills I've learned, I was able to find myself again. It's helped me embrace acceptance for myself and see myself for who I really am and feel okay with that. Please understand how important

113this class is to myself and many others. It's my first year, but I can easily say being in it is one of my favorite memories and even the most influential. It's taught me how to be more open to new perspectives, be more understanding of others' thoughts and feelings, and overall improve my emotional awareness. I see how this class can be taken for granted, but it should be appreciated for what it does because it helps students find themselves and gives them opportunities the standard classroom doesn't. All right. Hello, everybody. Nice to see you here. My name is Avery Meek. I'm a senior at Windsor High School, and I'm sure that you all are now well aware of the impact that this restorative practice course has on our community and our school. This course allows our students

114to benefit from rigorous learning, experience growth through perseverance. It expands our social awareness and contributes to our communities. And you get to experience compassion in this class. Allow me to give my personal testament of what this course has done for me. Circle Keepers is a way of living. It teaches me to live with intentionality. I want my life to demonstrate the values that I hold, and this class paves the way for me to do that. It allows me to show that I am willing to be patient, kind, courteous, self-controlled, and respectful. Restorative practices have shaped the way I think, act, and speak. I've learned that part of problem solving is getting to know myself. I approach every situation constructively. Thank you to this class. As for public speaking and confidence, it has given me a

115space to flourish and have a purpose. This class teaches accountability and the importance of integrity and effort. I was not enthusiastically into sports or the theatrical arts or our excellent academic programs that we have at Windsor High School, but I was always attracted to helping others. And I can say that this is true to every single person in this circle keeping class. That's what we wanna do. We wanna help others and that is what we do. We serve our community in events like Voices of Windsor where we facilitated tables of community members in conversation to identify and solve social disparities of Windsor. We spoke on behalf of our class when the Western Association of Schools and Colleges, otherwise known as WASC, came to Windsor High School and we participated in circle. We ran welcoming circles

116for freshmen for their eighth grade orientations. And when new staff had to be trained on restorative practices, we were there on our Saturday on their training day running circles. We attend LCAP to give a student voice. And when community members and staff were being educated on our school safety protocols, we ran a circle on gun violence and a gun safety debrief. We have made an impact to hundreds and hundreds of students at Windsor High School and our Windsor community. When a class so central to our social curriculum is cut we are dismissing and discrediting the importance of everything that we are involved in We talk about a vision for Windsor High School. We talk about something that we want to see we say it's going to take time We need growth. We need money. We

117need these things to do it You have a class on campus that does that you have a class that improves the social curriculum of Windsor High School But this class doesn't just affect Windsor. I'm a director for a summer camp and through this restorative practices class, I learned to focus on the social curriculum and an impact that a social culture has on a community. My job is to train my staff on how to run circles, a check-in and check-out circle every day for every day that we are in summer camp. This is to mitigate the behavior challenges that we face in an environment such as summer camp and I'm not and I've learned not only how to run circles but how to teach them and the importance of them to my staff and Hopefully myself

118and my peers are teaching the importance of restorative practices in schools to you today My conflict resolution skills have improved beyond measure. When I go to work and have to deal with behavior issues, I focus on preserving the dignity of everybody that's involved. I've stopped focusing on control and I've started focusing on building community. This takes time and this takes effort. This class is worth that time and effort. The skills that our kids learn from this class go out and they benefit the world. They benefit wherever they go in everything that they do. Time and effort is exactly what we need to put into this class. Thank you for listening to myself and my peers. Hi, everyone. My name is Joseph Gomez and I am the CSA labor rep for Windsor Chapter 673. My job

119is to represent our classified bargaining unit members and help amplify our members voices. As we kind of heard a little bit earlier tonight, we're engaged in active and productive negotiations with the district and I made a lot of progress as you will see tonight with the MOUs being presented. One part of the negotiations has to do with access to health and welfare benefits for our members. In the piece of paper that Sheila handed out you'll see that our You'll see it almost a double a double-digit percentage increase in the rates for Healthcare for our members. We all know that money is tight right now and that everything keeps getting more expensive That being said CSEA needs the board to know that financially The projected increase to help them over benefits will affect our classified unit

120the most Our members earn the least amount of money out of all the employee groups at WSD and will soon be losing more of their take-home pay to pay for these benefits our members rely on health and welfare benefits to keep themselves and their families happy and healthy earlier today the governor released his budget and announced a state education cola that was a little bit less than we anticipated i know that we need to get creative and it was it was encouraging to hear earlier that the board as well and as well the district are interested in working with us to figure out a way to make these make these increases work for us So I challenge the board to work with CSEA and the other employee organizations to provide some relief for our members.

121We have some amazing unit members who soon may no longer be able to afford to work here. We owe it to our students and our community to find a solution. Thank you. Is it a letter? So one additional person to speak? Go ahead. Hello everyone. My name is Wyatt Lochmiller. I'm a senior this year at Windsor High School and one of the fellow Circle Keepers that is here with me today. I was aware of the time constraint so I was willing to sit out today but I'm thankful for you guys being willing to hear me out. The Circle Keepers class from a basic standpoint is a class designated to help build community, restore community, and keep community thriving on the Windsor High School campus and wherever we go. This class has been a blessing to

122me personally. I've gone through so much hardship in my time during high school, with my depression, my anxiety, my family problems, the addictions my family and I have gone through. This class has been able to keep me going. All the people I've been able to work with, all these wonderful students here, we're fighting to keep fighting for our community and help them, just as the community has helped all of us in the past. And I ask that you will hear us out and continue to support us through our time. And I'm trying not to avoid going over the three minutes, so I'll leave it at that. Thank you for hearing me out. Do we have any other public comment? Go ahead. Madam President, if I could be granted the fourth minute like you guys had

123the other night, I'd appreciate it. Go ahead. Thank you. Good evening, trustees. My name is Kevin Scanlon, currently a 27-year resident of the town of Windsor, Windsor Creek Residential in an elementary school neighborhood. I've been in the government realm for over 40 years and an educator for 26 years. I was a volunteer for 16 years at Windsor High School. Tonight's quotes is zero to hero and what the heck was that? Well, Tuesday night's planning commission meeting was interesting and emotional for some, which falls under the category of what the heck was that? It was amazing how all of you came together to address the quail. Acres project with your thoughts and passion one of you said something to the effect of children are our most valuable people in the community and should be put on

124the and shouldn't be put on the back burner so a developer can line their pockets over 65 more residential structures when our students should have the right to have the opportunity to run and play on fields with a permanent school facility Another one of you said something to the effect that the developer wants to maximize every penny he can squeeze out of Windsor at whose expense? The kids. The developer doesn't doesn't even live here We do when the developer gets their money and they scoot who's going to be stuck with the problems associated with building and the buildings and surrounding area Also known as quality of life becomes diminished and as well as apartments kill it. I Nearly fell out of my chair after hearing this dialogue asking myself. What the heck was that? Why

125the heck don't you practice what you preach and defend the Windsor Creek Elementary site with the same vigor? Similar in fashion, the developer doesn't live in or around Windsor, and at least two people in this body do not live in the town of Windsor either. During one of your previous meetings, one of the bodies, one of this body said profoundly we should always keep a priority. one take care of the kids first then move to the special project or other orders of business The California Teachers Association opposes school closures and recommends the district should partner with cities and towns to make the city or correction the school property in the parks and community centers from underused school campuses. Also, the CTA agrees with that and saying that most housing for in the high density category

126for some districts. uh don't really take care of the teachers and other people of the staff because they desire living to be in other living arrangements the town of windsor parks and recreation commission since 2015 has a 2030 master plan that says hey we need a lot more space for our parks and wrecks Our parks and recs is screaming for more fields and facilities. If you went to any of those meetings, you'd know that. Come on, Superintendent Decker and board, go from your current state of zero in the community on the Windsor Creek School debacle to a hero by using your escape clause and providing the success. that property for all to use as the windsor creek sports hub or sports complex remember wust put students first and become positive contributors to the community thank

127you for your time and consideration okay i think that concludes public comment we are going to take a three minute break and then reconvene okay bringing everyone back um We are reconvening after our break. I just want to correct. We sometimes make factual corrections. Everyone on the board lives in the Windsor Unified School District, just to make sure that we're clear on that. But more importantly than that, we have some special attendees in the audience. We have our new student board members for next year. If you could please stand. Yeah, why don't you come up? We have Natalie Valdez and Rebecca Herman. We just wanted to say hi. We will ask you to come up, kind of put you on the spot, but just just say hi. Tell us tell us a little bit about

128yourself. We look forward to working with you. I am Rebecca Herman. I'm currently a junior. I'll be a senior next year. I'm in the Nueva Corps, which is like performing arts and stuff. I do acting. So you may have seen me on stage. That's kind of my crazier half. But I'm really excited to take this position as the student board member for the Board of Trustees. And I feel very passionate about my place in Windsor because I have worked really hard every day to attend the Windsor School. And I think it's really important. And I don't want to pass up the opportunity to be a voice in those decisions. Thank you. My name is Natalie Valdez. I'm also a current junior at Windsor High School, incoming senior. I am in the Arte Media Academy, which

129is kind of the sister core of Nueva, branching off from our AME 10th grade core. And yeah. I'm really excited for this position, too. She really touched on the passion that we both have for change and for community and for voices to be heard. And we're really excited to be a part of that. I'm also in leadership, so I'll be next year's ASP president. So looking forward to all that we're going to do for our schools in Windsor. So yeah. Oh, and I figure skate. I don't know. Fun facts. Fun facts. Yeah, that's all. And I play the guitar. i like to sing i don't know and you're shy and you're shy yeah i'm pretty shy thank you for coming up thank you thank you for being here and we look forward to working with

130you next year okay um yeah it's gonna be competition next year yes okay so we are going to move pretty quickly through these items because rich wants to talk about item item later in the agenda and if we can get there by 9 pm we're all going to let him so with that in mind i'd like to make a motion that we approve the minutes from april 10th and april 17th do i have a second i'll second all in favor aye aye who now moved to consent okay let's take it away i made the motion malinelli second we all are correct so i'd like to make a motion for the consent items that we approve remember 4.1 we scratched off so uh consent items 4.2 through 4.17 remember we added 4.16 and 17 the district

131warrants and the animals at school policy um can i get a second Okay. Is there any discussion? No. Just really quick, because there's four donations, I just want to briefly mention them. Big Picture Learning, they got a $2,200 donation from Windsor Rotary. That's amazing and awesome. Big Picture Learning, again, big winner. Shannon Johnson donated $11,000. to big picture learning staff so they can attend the Big Bang Conference in Rhode Island. So way to go. This is a... Dude, this is just emblematic of our town and how awesome it is. Mr. Sanchez, when donated $305 for the Cinco de Mayo celebration for Maddie Washburn... the preschool system. And so thank you, Mr. Sanchez. And AccuCounting on computers donated $600. I just want to read this. We deeply appreciate your time and generous contribution. Your initial $500

132donation inspired somebody else to donate $400 more from various sources. And then they were $100 short. And so the accounting on computers. kicked in another $100 to make sure they hit their goal of $1,000. So I just, I know that these are consent items, but you know what? I think as long as we keep recognizing people and their generosity in this town, I think we will have more and more of it. So let's recognize the things we want more of. Thank you to all those people that donated graciously so our students continue to go. and that was my comments for consent okay all and we had a motion in a second so all in favor aye aye aye okay moving to 5.1 this is consideration of approval of a new classified manager job description pete

133sullivan tell us about this item all right thank you So the child care program coordinator position is being created, hopefully, to support the strategic growth of the preschool, of TK, and of the before and after school program. We are looking at a program that started with zero staff and zero students and now serves over 460 students and has 80 staff members. uh jessica is the director and previous coordinator of this uh of of all of those things and now she uh spends a lot of her time managing all of the fiscal you know the grant side of the operation as well as a lot of the personnel side of the operation so we are hoping that rather than consolidating the the uh all of the work under a single administrator we can elevate a classified

134to our classified management position so we can help alleviate some of the staffing compliance family engagement and site level operations and we think the coordinator position will will help smooth out some of the operations and be a key asset to this program all right can i make one point too so this will be for the next position as well these are coming out of jessica her budget is funding these positions which are restricted funds okay any discussion yeah on this one the next one is do we have additional money are we reprogramming staff money um with two and i support the the suggestions is as proposed and recommended i'm just wondering is is this new money or existing money that's been repurposed for status i can take this one okay so we have an existing

135preschool budget that right now we're using a lot of the extra funds for um construction but next year with the program being having its own site and this need there we know there's an extra little pot there that's There in case we need it for additional things and we felt like this was one that would be the best use of it Okay, thank you I mean any public comment on this item Seeing none any additional discussion from the board. Do I have a motion? It is not a resolution make a motion for approval second all in favor aye aye Thank you thank you um next we're getting a 2024 2025 technology update from brad rigney hi all right well here we go me again for another board update um here's a picture of my chihuahua

136looking into the future um so after several years of massive very visible projects we finally had some time to calm down and focus on refining things So what you're going to see here is exactly that. Oh, I have the thing. All right. I think one of the biggest things I'm super proud of is our new ticketing system. This ticketing system is not just for technology. It's for facilities. It's also inventory and holds a lot of places for documentation. And I'll tell you a little bit more about that in a minute. So this year, since August of this year, we've done about 3000 tickets. We've streamlined a bunch of We can now track issue types, which is kind of a neat thing. We know how many of a particular type of issue there is. And what

137that does is allows us to proactively deal with them. So I'm going to show you a little bit of data here from this. This is one of the demographic, not demographics, one of the data panels we get. You can see kinds of tickets. You can see closure time. You can see amount of tickets. And like I said, this is from this is just technology. And this is from just since August. It's kind of a big number, right? What I'm not telling you is that facilities has a huge number to share as well, but I'm not presenting for them. Let's see here. What it also allows is people to give us feedback on how we're doing on these tickets. Pretty cool. I've never had the ability to say to get any feedback from staff when it

138comes to this. Our old ticketing system was pretty good, but this one just gives us a lot of interactivity and data. Let's see here. Okay, another thing that's done and that I really, really like is this centralized documentation. So we've got all of our maps, all of our documents for how-tos, both internal for tech staff as well as external. So it holds kind of a large database of, we'll call it a knowledge base is what I actually meant to say. Let me show you some things. So here is inside of. Inside of our IncidentIQ, we have maps. We've actually spent a lot of time remapping all the sites. I've got a guy on my team who's went through all of the sites. He actually literally visited it and went and opened every single door in

139every single site. What we can do now with these new numbers, and the new numbers, we're starting to apply them to doors, but we know that based on the door number of the first door, what the door number of the second door and if there's a door inside of that door. So what we can do now is we can place equipment in specific places. Just give us a way to decode where the thing is that you're talking about. And again, it's right inside of our ticketing system. This here is like I was saying, we have internal documentation. So these are things for my staff to follow on how to do a certain technology task or whatever. There's also publicly facing public facing, I mean, towards the teachers or towards whoever's submitting a ticket, other how

140to's. Another thing we did is we've branded communication. So we realized that we send out various ways of communications from the technology team, and that could be via email or via, well, it's mostly was email, but it was from different people in different ways. So we've taken advantage of ParentSquare, which we all know and love, and we've branded our communication. So what now we have is things like Technology Tuesdays, where we'll have a tip. This was actually the one that we used when we introduced our new technology, our new ticket system. This is just a quick summary. It's a really long thing I just kind of gave you. But they're all formatted the same. They all have a quick summary, and then they go into detail. So if you're not trying to read the whole

141thing, you can look at the quick summary. We used to call it TLDR, but a lot of people didn't know what that meant, so we called it quick summary. TL, too long, didn't read. Anyway, there's this. They all come like this. They come mostly Tuesdays, but they come also in between when we have other things to announce. processes. So this is kind of a big thing. And like I said, we've taken the time and been able to take the time to kind of dial in some of our processes when it comes to the very first thing here is I have a massive spreadsheet, which is called the technology tracker, and it's got tabs for every team. I'm going to show it to you now. It's got tabs for every team. It's got tabs for comms

142we want, communications we want to make. It's got tabs for literally kind of everything. You might even see in the upper right-hand corner, I really saw the super mega task list. So after we've done everything else in this thing, we've got a huge list of things that we'll get to maybe one day when we have some time. Up here, there's also an inventory playbook. It's kind of a massive thing. I'm trying to redo inventory without a way to describe and... define what things we inventory, when we inventory, and how we inventory them. Now we have a playbook. It's not totally done, but it's really easy to say how I want to do inventory, but it's not easy to implement. It's a big, big task. This has been good. So through the last year, and probably

143a little bit of last year, I've had some really great collaboration with both the ed services. and HR. HR specifically in pre-defining staff categories. So I'm going to show you the next slide a little early. So what we're doing is we're saying you're either a basic staff, a basic computing staff, a teaching staff, an admin staff, and so on. With this, we're able to apply devices, access types, and on and off board all of these things automatically. So if you're kind of a staff, and you see on the left, I know this is like a lot of pictures of computers or screens on computers, but On the left, we've categorized every kind of position that we have. What this means for us, and we haven't totally implemented all of the automation yet, but at least

144now we've defined it. What this means is you get hired. You're a one of these. You get this, this, and this. You leave. You're a one of these. We remove this, this, and this. And this helps us sort of just clean up the process of on and off boarding and make it more efficient. I'm really proud of this. And HR has been integral in making this happen. Let's see here. I take a little breath because you guys know I speak quickly and then lose my breath. Device compatibility, right? So why not device compatibility? So tech considerations. If I go back a slide, can I do that? Cool. Ed services. So for the longest time, we've had a hard time. Managing all the multiple requests for all of the different educational platforms, communication platforms, this and

145that. And there's really not been any great way of not just accepting the requests, but vetting them, making sure that the right thing and then getting behind them and making PD and making them successful and ensuring all of that. We've got some schools buying a little bit of this license and some schools buying a little more of the same license and they're not talking to each other. So we're paying too much and we're not getting together on training and PD. So that's moving forward in kind of really amazing ways for the first time. Thank you, Annette and Brian. Site planning tool. So this is a new thing. It's been a dream of mine since last year. I don't have a picture of it, but what it is is. It's a set of questions that we're

146going to ask every site before they leave for the summer and go dark on us for the entirety of that time. And we say, hey, are you moving people around? Are you adding walls? Will there be new classrooms? Will you be changing things? It's just a set of questions from every department that allows us early communication before everybody leaves so we're not trying to call you with questions about what's going on. And also so when you come back, you're not in a rush trying to get all this stuff done. All right, we went there. All right, 2025 wins. Cali spent a lot of money. They've got some real cool stuff now. And like every other school, they needed AV upgrades. So they actually bit the bullet and spent the money. Both the gym and the

147MPR got great new systems. And I'm going to show you a picture here. In addition to that, they added... ifps so i we used to call them smart boards but that's like bandit and kleenex it's called an interactive flat panel and every company makes them so um ifps i'm going to show you a picture of that here um got to also talk about the new classrooms so the classrooms what i'm proud of there is you'll see a picture is how we've tied the installs of these classrooms some some sanders we've made around networking just what every classroom gets network closets you're gonna see a nerdy picture in a minute that you'll explain why it's nerdy so Here is Cali's beautiful new AV systems. They have a little touch panel on each wall and you can

148click a button and you can say, turn on the audio and the projector comes down. It turns on and the sound comes on. It's got Bluetooth, great new mics, bunch of stuff. This is my dream for all sites, but Cali made it happen first. And now we've got a really good vendor so we can repeat this. And this vendor is really, really great and responsive too, which is amazing. Is that Loteria cards? Say again? Is that Loteria cards up on the screen? Yeah. I'm sorry, say it one more time. Is that Loteria cards up on the screen? Oh, yeah, it is. Yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't hear what you said. Yeah. So I asked Lydia, I was like, can you put something, can you send me something of it? I can show you a black

149screen all day long, but like send me something cool. So that was Loteria. Yeah, that's fine. Here's some kids using those interactive flat panels. They're all doing the same thing, but it's different kids. This is the best picture I could get, but it's kind of a really cool thing. And you can touch screens all day long. You can touch little screens or whatever, but when you're actually walking out to the classroom, and this is something that I had to be convinced to believe was a cool thing, but when you're actually walking up in front, you're participating in class in a different way. I'm actually really liking what they've done here. They have roll-around carts so they can share in between classrooms. These things are 86 inches. Basically, you can turn any computer into the brains

150of it. It could be an iPad, it could be a Chromebook, it could be anything, and it turns it. You can control your computer from it. It's really, really cool. It has a bunch of apps on its own. All right, this is the nerdy thing I was telling you about. This is where my pride comes out. So I know this is like a bunch of wires. But if you notice, the wires are colored specifically. The ports they're plugged into are colored specifically. And it's really, really neat. If you could put me in a closet doing this kind of stuff all day, I'd be super happy to do it. Just nerding out and making wires look good. If you see to the right, that's what the wires are. So we know that the orange wires are

151a specific thing. And we know that that may be a camera. I'm not... remembering it in front of me, but we've made it so each color equals a kind of thing. So if I'm in a closet, I know that the ones on the right are cameras and I know the ones on the left are bones. It just makes troubleshooting easier and faster. And I think it looks cool. Let's see. So this is the thing that I want to talk about most. So what we're doing, hopefully if you guys say yes, is launching a four-year cycle on all staff computers. so this district is for a long time just kind of piecemeal staff computers for a long time 100 here 50 here here and there and it means that different it's there's no equity in the

152quality of device that you've got you've got a bunch of people that have very old ones a bunch of people that have very new ones unfortunately we didn't have enough to ever really smartly figure out who oh you have an old one so you should probably get the new one no it's when new teachers come in they get the new one and it's unfortunate that we don't have ways to to smartly trade out everybody and write the whole org so this is a plan to write the whole org the idea here is that we do a four-year lease on all staff computers you're going to see the apple lease today and it establishes a known budget it establishes a four-year cycle And it gives us the tools that we actually been needing all the time

153and we write to the whole thing when it comes to staff across the board and that's it's been inequitable most of the time I've done this at previous districts to the lease is great. The Apple lease is awesome because it's 0%. There's buyback a guaranteed buyback at the end. It makes no sense to not lease and it's establishes this known budget. I know you'll have questions and I have a bunch of notes for you rich, but Let's see. I think I said all the things about this. So this is the thing I'm most excited about. The computers we're looking at are the 2025 MacBook Air and just a lot like Austin and Jeremy's computers, the Lenovo ThinkPad. So we've learned through surveying that we have about 70% of staff wanting a Mac and about 30%

154of staff wanting Windows. You guys are going to look at the Apple lease soon and the Windows one will come next month once we're done beating them up on price. That's so and the future. The next things we intend to do are finalize our Clever IDP. That would mean one single place for all staff to log in. It applies settings to everybody. It's just a single place for all users. Right now, we have some users logging in Windows, some users logging in on Microsoft and other users using. Clever is a company that also helped us launch and manage a lot of these educational platforms I spoke of earlier. So they are a solution in this space specifically for K-12, which is why we chose them. Suji Poja on AI. This is the next big thing,

155right? We get a lot of requests on AI and like we get requests on every other platform, we don't always have a way of vetting them, saying which ones we believe in, supporting them and what have you else. So we're working on that. And I kind of always say cybersecurity and data center improvements are in the future. Data center means servers. It means expensive servers and closets. We need money for that. So it's on hold. We're working on it. We're edging along, but it's a thing that's real close. And with that becomes cybersecurity. Older servers, hard to update, don't get patched, security issues happen. And that's exactly the situation. Yeah, that's kind of the whole thing. I bet you have questions about the computers. Brad, just so we're looking at the orders of everything and

156it's all goofy. Yeah. I'm like bored. It's okay. Board docs is kind of messed up right now. So Stephanie, can I ask that after this item, we go to the Apple lease and then we go back to the job. That's what I was thinking. Yeah. I'm on the same page. Sorry, Pete, for missing one of your items. Okay, great. Okay, I don't have any questions. I'm going to ask a quick question because I want to get to that 9 o'clock special moment. Brad, because 5.9, we're going to talk about the cell phone policy thing coming down the road. Do we have, I know it's your little blue wires. That's the Cat 5 or Cat 6 wires, I'm assuming. Do we have a phone, a landline phone or a... Whatever you call it desk phone a

157desk phone of some sort in every classroom. Yes, we do. Okay. Thank you That was one of the things we did when we did the phone project a few years ago You could do know that on that Apple lease. It's a four-year deal Is it all the computers and we lease them over four years or do we get a 25% New ones every couple years. The idea is we reset everybody right now Okay live for four years and in four years Apple buys back. They've given us a guaranteed buyback, which is pretty cool And how they do that by the way is that we're we've tied a warranty to it So the warranty means that they're all repaired for us so they can guarantee the state that they get the back in right? So 0%

158four years we reset in four years. We use and actually we make almost enough money for that first year's lease payment on that buyback. Do we have a, is that warranty also a repair? It is a repair. So you give me a computer and I, it doesn't work or whatever. I drop something. They will fix it. It will. With a copy in it. What if Rich is a... It's like a special for education version of Apple. What if Rich is a careless teacher and I had three things in my hand and I should have had two and I dropped my computer? What happens? Does the teacher cover a deductible? Is it... No. Does district covers it? That's part of the glory here is that you get a new one immediately. We're buying 10% over so

159that we make sure that we've always got enough, right? So you're made whole as soon as possible. And part of that, we're actually trying to build in Google to be... already syncing certain folders in your computer, right? So the idea being you get a new one, we swap you out, we walk away. You don't get your old computer back. We fix your old computer and give it to somebody else. So, and then the last two parts. Some of our, like in our company, when we rotate computers, our engineering guys always get the newest computers with the most RAM and memory and all the stuff that every time a new something comes out. So their software, it's more computing power necessary. Goes to them first and then they get passed down to us because our computing

160speed isn't as much do we do something similar or is there even a need? We have been squeezing every last bit of life out of every computer we have for years and so this is this is our chance to reset to give you an example and a big reason here is so we've got some Dells you might have seen some of these there are a lot of office people's desks and they were donated to us by ag credit before I got here after they were done with them we're still making use of those At Windows 10 is ending support in October 20s 25 and we will not be able to update them meaning any computer that will not run that These Dells needs to be replaced. It's a security issue in the last last question

161when I read the lease I got the impression that that was going to be a cost for all of our computing, but it sounds like we have Microsoft next month is going to come in. Do you have any rough order magnitude of what that one might be or what you hope it will be? I can give you pretty rough, $85,000. $85,000. So we're talking about $250,000 a year, $268,000 a year. $237,626. Okay. So for our computing to redo this, we're talking about? $237,000. $250,000 a year. So a million dollars over the next four years. If you had remembered when we were talking about commitment of funds in that Fund 17, I kind of mentioned it's about $250,000 to update everything. That's mainly why it was only staff devices when we were having that conversation because

162I said student devices is a different conversation. We agreed that's a whole different animal. So this is just staff devices. And what I would say to Rich about your question about cycling them from engineer down, the hard part with us is, so these are just Macs, right? So all of our teachers use Macs. Apple is kind of blowing away the field when it comes to teaching devices, mainly because of the way they hire. When you talk to CDW, it's clear that they're... No offense, Brad, technology people. And then Mac. Mac is clearly former educators that had been doing it for 15 years, then got hired by the curriculum companies, did that for 10 years, and then now they're finishing out their career at Apple, tying technology with curriculum, with learning. So it really makes sense

163to go Apple for the education side. The reason on the Microsoft side, we don't do that mainly. And we kind of, we did look at it. The main reason though is regardless, and there are some positions we do do it for where they don't need as much memory drive, but when, when it comes to processing and memory. All of our secretaries, accountants, payroll, whatever it is, they're having multiple software windows open at the same time running multiple platforms, whether that's Excel, Escape, Aries, you name it, right? So they're running multiple. So all of them kind of need a memory to some degree, but we do do what you were saying, just smaller. I would say maybe three different devices. Thanks. Your answer helps. I mean, that helps because even though it's a school, we really

164have the educational part of it, and then we have the business side of it. And the business side of it really needs more of the Microsoft product. like our company does. So anyhow, thank you. I'm good. Okay. So thanks, Brad. I think we're kind of into the next item though. I just wanted to say one thing quickly. I don't have a question or anything like that, but I did want to say that I think at a future meeting, it'd be good to have AI as an agenda item, just because I think AI is the way that the world is evolving and it's important that we are on board with that. But also AI has been known to have gender bias cultural biases all sorts of biases so I think it's a worthy conversation about how

165we do use it even though I know it's unavoidable sorry Brian I'm not like insulting you But yes, yes. So I know that's a little piece of it, but I think it also might have to come back. But we'll talk about that a little bit. That sounds good. And I think we maybe even have a committee in the district that's working on AI. And it would be great to hear what they're doing, kind of to confirm that item. Yeah, that's the first I've heard of that. I didn't know that we had that. Go ahead, Bill. um yeah i wanted to look at the last bullet it sounded aspirational with the data center and double check to say what else if money wasn't an issue would would we could we be doing and i'd also like

166us to think about like with a data center thinking outside the box hardware it seems to me we can probably weave in to bond proceeds it's not programs or staffing so as a thing to look at i don't think we had done that in the past might be a bit of a stretch but i'd love for us to look into it too you know we if we have something you'd like to do and it is either facility space isn't there or the money isn't there let's not forget that we're probably going to be taking another bite at the bond process soon. I've got a bunch of ideas for bond money. Pardon me? I have a bunch of ideas for bond money. I would like to have them put in so that we, again, have $100

167million of revenue and $250 million in asks so that we don't say, well, it would never make the cut. We won't ask. So just wanted to share that. Service, cameras, security. I mean, everything touches the internet now. Yes, so I mean these are traditional things that you know used to be facilities Love to love to hear about those happy. Yeah, wonderful. Thank you Okay, well so Do you have anything to add? I think we're kind of taking these items together Do you have anything on 5.4 to add or do you think we're ready to vote on that? Okay, then is there any public comment on either item 5.3 or 5.4? The technology update or the lease agreement. I just did for us real quick. They have an imputed 5.8% interest. They have to, even though

168it's almost nine, at least has zero, but it says it's about five points, something that's already built into it. No, I had actually caught that. And we had asked them, they eat that. gosh now i'm forgetting okay so the answer is no it's not ours we're good we had zero got it they have to report it but they're the ones that are taking you got it they have to report it on their 8038 form but we don't okay cool great do i have a i'd like to make a motion that we approve 5.4 i'll make a second and we'll have a roll call vote and their student board members can go first because they have a preferential vote zoe firman Yes. Kylie Hernandez. Yes. Bill Adams. Yes. Malin Ali Lopez. Yes. Rich Carnation. Yes. Stephanie.

169Yes. Paul Kekorne. Yes. Thank you, Brad. Thank you, guys. This is going to make a lot of people really happy. It's an opportunity to reset a lot of things on a lot of levels. Great. And we look forward to seeing your list of wishes that we can add into our thinking about the bond. Okay. We'll come back to Pete. Item 5.2, which I... didn't see on the agenda and we'll talk about a new job dis classified job description for a custodial grounds worker one let us know what this is about and we'll keep it moving as much as we can so this is just in in response to increased maintenance maintenance needs again in addition to address the addition of the preschool we are hoping the dual capacity role will help combine the custodial and

170groundskeeping roles to help facilitate keeping up with the campus environment in general both Maddie and of course the expanded preschool which is also Maddie yeah okay great any discussion from the board Like to make a motion that we approve this let me go out for public comment. Okay. Do I have a second? I'll second all in favor Okay, thanks, Pete. Okay, 5.5. This is the ELOP plan for 2025 to 2028. Jessica? Hello, everybody. Hi. So every three years, I have to come bring our updated plan for what we're going to do for expanded learning. And we look at 11 areas of... You know the program in order to put it together and bring it to you guys and kind of come up with a plan we look at Engagement from the students engagement from staff

171with the kind of learning that we're gonna do the training we're doing for staff and Kind of you know plan for the next three years and I'm gonna plan on doing updates and bringing it to you guys annually probably around this time of year but some of the things that we've done since our last plan is we're implementing a lot more training for our staff some of the areas that they're getting trained in is the teaching pyramid which is an inclusive practice that our tk and kinder teachers are also working on and our preschool teachers and so it helps have that continuity throughout their after school experience and then we've implemented a lot of educational pieces into our after-school program the kids have a supper right after school to you know kind of boost their

172energy and get them ready to learn a little bit more and we have a 45 minute to hour long homework help time literacy time and our staff also plan structured activities during those times for for the kids and we try and align it for what with they're doing in the classroom that's grade level and then we also have a snack later in the day some free free choice time for the kids our our staff is is going through about five days of training at the beginning of the year to try and prep them for the year so you know we're updating our current staff with some of the new theories and practices that we feel like we need to put in for that year and then we're also you know giving a good orientation for

173any new staff that's coming on board and I'm basically just bringing it to you guys to see if you guys have any input in the program I'm not going to go over the whole entire thing I think it was like 41 pages long but we put a sample of our schedule just kind of gave you guys an overview we have a lot of participation with the students the students do a lot of driving you know what they're interested in our staff are part of Sonoma County Office of Education training for after-school care which which has picked back up it's called scan and they actually just spent today for about three hours learning how to build a wind tunnel that they're gonna be able to bring back to the classrooms with the kids so we've been

174doing a lot of really awesome stuff and we're looking forward to serving the kids and and giving them more opportunities after school I just want to say that this is amazing work, and I love this idea of supper, you know, to give them that extra boost of energy. So really, really important work. Thank you. Thank you. So I'm looking for approval of the plan. Oh, questions. Yes. I know when we started a couple of years ago, there was an outreach and real interest in participation as employees of some of our high school students. Is that still the case? And is it? maintaining is it growing give us a little insight on that um yeah so we have um we've worked with uh workability quite a bit this year and i think we've served about eight

175students in the workability program um i currently have um i want to say like 10 high school students that are currently working for us across the three campuses um some of them are work for us five days a week some of them only you know two or three days a week um and we try and find a spot for absolutely everybody We've had some kids that were only with us for six to eight weeks and others that have been with us for four years now. And I recall, wasn't there some opportunity for concurrent enrollment with the JC and credits as well? So we're working on an apprenticeship program with the high school and the child development department there. And so right now, we're not- um offering any concurrent enrollment with the srjc but we do

176offer students to do like their senior projects with us we actually had some junior junior high kids come over and do um i think it was their seventh grade or eighth grade project with us which I think is four or five hours or five hours. So we've been working with the schools, trying to give kids opportunities to come be part of our program. And yeah, and we interview anyone who is interested. We've got a couple of new high schoolers that are coming on for our summer camps. So we definitely try and find a space for everybody to come be part of the program. Wonderful. Thank you. I just got to tell you. to go from nothing to something you you you're just killing it and it's you're doing fantastic thank you all right any public

177comment on this item i seeing none um i will take a vote on the on the report right accepting the report just except yeah yeah um do i have a motion I'll make a motion that we accept the report. I'll second. All in favor? Aye. Thank you. And then I think you're here for the next item as well, which is the CSPP program self-evaluation. for 2025-2026? So one of the requirements of our California State Preschool Program is that we need to look at our program and how it's operating and whether or not we're meeting the requirements from the California Department of Education. And so, you know, obviously it's a self-study. We do assessments of the classroom, assessments of how the teachers are observing the kids with our DRDP. that DRDP is also used in our

178TK classrooms. We assess our family files, whether or not we're keeping up our documentation. We assess our staff files just to make sure that they have all the correct units and CPR and stuff like that. We assess our handbook for families our engagement with families how we are advertising to the community so those are all kind of all the areas that we assess and we I'm happy to say that we met the the requirements met the standards in almost all areas there were two areas that we still had a little bit of improvement to do So one of the areas is our family files. And when I went through our family files, there were just a few files that didn't have all of the required documentation of like the child's immunization or the family's income.

179We were able to make those files whole, but I just did it like kind of a random pool. So, you know, we've talked to the staff that's putting together those files and tried to make sure that we have a better system in the future. to collect everything before we enroll the kids and do our notice of action and then the other area that we had some needed some improvement was in our sign in sign out sheets so the State preschool requires that we document why any child is not there for the day. And when I went and reviewed our sign-in, sign-out sheets, we hadn't, you know, there was a couple of them that we didn't have documentation. The child was absent. We didn't know why. So those are the two areas that we need improvement

180in. As far as the sign-in, sign-out sheets, I really would like to move to a digital sign-in, sign-out format. And so that's something that we've been looking at for a couple of years. Eventually, I'm kind of hoping that ARIES provides that. ARIES is going to be doing a lot of reporting data for our ELOP program, which is now part of our CALPADS. And so with that, I'm hoping that they will allow parents to sign in and out. That's kind of my hope. shied away from having another database for parents to learn so that's kind of been one of our blocks is just trying to balance you know all the things that we're asking parents to do so that's that's my report so would a digital sign out be like the parents would have an id

181badge with their scan code and they would pick up Junior and Junior's scan code and their scan code would just go out the door? Something like that? Something like that. Some of them, they sign into their account and they can actually sign into their account and say, like, I'm out front, come bring my child to me. There's been a lot of... changes since like COVID and stuff like that. So it depends, it really depends on what kind of database we have. There could also be just a digital, like an iPad where, you know, they have a pen and digitally sign out on an iPad. So it kind of depends on what we go for. Okay. Thank you. Well, I'm glad that you are evaluating and, you know, identifying things to work on and, you know,

182continuing to grow and we're really proud. Do we have any board discussion anymore? public comment okay then i think we're ready for a vote on accepting the self-evaluation do i have a motion also move i'll second all in favor aye aye thank you guys thank you jessica all right so we're moving on to our policy section of the meeting and it's only 903 so i think we kind of kind of did it almost we try it's for sports people it's overtime okay so 5.7 is approval board policy 4 1 2.2 and I don't have my laptop and board docks is glitching so remind me what this policy is no problem so 4 1 1 2.2 this is a reboot from last month I brought this item and basically it outlines the district's obligation to ensure

183that staff are adequately prepared and can demonstrate subject matter competency so credentialing so the whole the whole section is about credentialing it outlines some of the stuff about our declaration of need in preparing our district for absorbing teachers who are under credentialed like permits etc um so this item you'll see that there are a ton of attachments here i carried over one of the attachments which is the draft board policy which includes all of the updates um that was the one that's been redlined and and has all the edits and then i have a clean copy of the the new policy which is the final copy on the very left hand side the first item so there are two things happening here one we are updating from 2016 to 2023, which is also included in

184Brian's update. But to further that extension, because we have new TK language that we need to absorb, I've added that TK language. The really important part for us specifically is that we are looking at what the district's obligation is in terms of identifying when somebody has achieved what would be. equivalent to 24 units of study and we are asking that the board approve a year of teaching in a classroom is equivalent to that okay any other questions discussion on this um it is just a motion and a vote we do any public comment seeing none can i have a motion i'd like to make a motion we approve this i think it's Thank you. Yeah. I'll second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Thanks, Pete. Okay. We are going to the 2023-2024 board policies. There

185are many updates throughout, all shown in red line. I think there were like eight, between eight and 10 different files. I had asked the board, we knew these were coming last month because we had a first reading. I had asked the board for any comments by May 2nd. We didn't receive any comments from the board. So I presume this is going to be a quick. item because of that um and i did also say that if anyone goes back notices anything pull it and we will have a sub policy subcommittee meeting in june bill and i are finding a date as we speak and then we can bring those policies back to the board i i just want to thank the preparer who put the executive uh information oh i know where it came from

186and which program i used to do it now that i'm i learned the other night and i'm in marvel i gotta get that anyhow but thank you that was very very helpful you're welcome So anything that you want with that preface Brian is there anything you want us to know before we discuss vote? So are we on on my board docs that says 5.9? We're on 5.8 on my agenda. Sorry, we have different versions unfortunately board docs is changing their format and they are The subject matter Brian changes consideration of approval of the proposed CSBA recommendation or 5.9 So no comments on that lots of comments on the other one Because you'll have lots to discuss in the subcommittee with the cell phone policy, right? Yeah okay that's our 5.9 okay is there any public

187comment on the 2023 and 2024 policies nope okay seeing none um i will oh sorry bill sorry i did i know i need to look this way too i was just consulting with the student trustees on the acceptable use policy particularly there's some highlighted areas on ai and prohibitions thereupon or limits are we on i am in the 23 24 it's the last tab 5.8, okay. Yeah, it's the technology policy, right? Are we still on this item? Yep, we are on this item. So I was wondering, that's new. Is that going to get into the student handbook verbatim or even perhaps even expanded for students who are entering middle school and high school who may be AI-ers? I was not trying to infer to them. They said it was not really to cheat, but people

188use it to study. But we now have a new policy, and I'm... curious whether all of our teachers know to be telling their students and all the students and their families are going to know. Correct. So yes, this will be not only be the policy, it'll also be under our data confirmation for acceptable use. And then it'll be woven into not just the handbooks, but every single conversation going forward, particularly with our secondary students of what it is. It's going back to the old plagiarism conversation. It's if you're copying someone else's work, even if you're the one that typed it in, but AI produced it. you have to cite the work. So it's going to be talking about in terms of what's the proper way to cite all of that, what's the proper way to

189use it. i use it as a search function now so i don't even go to google anymore i type it straight in so it's going to be a lot of conversations about it and then it's also our TLAC committee has been talking about in terms of how do we integrate or train our teachers on how to handle in the classrooms and then talking about in terms of student work product if you want authentic it's going to be a proctored exam it's probably going to be paper and pencil and or a locked browser or something like that so it's going to be having all those conversations about how we how we get you know work product from students but also this isn't going away how are they going to be using it as adults going forward

190it's just going to keep be more and more part of our lives and we're going to need to teach them the tools of how to use it properly how to identify bias how to understand in terms of that it's not perfect and you have to have enough knowledge to know that doesn't sound right let me look for other sources thank you thank you i just want to say that was really well said everything you just shared right now because You know, without going into too much detail, I recently had a student that clearly used ChatGPT to write an essay, and it was not even on the right textbook. So that was a big, you know, giveaway. So it's really important to, you know, talk with our kids about how to use this technology, but also

191at the same time building critical thinking skills. And then on top of that, there's also issues besides bias. There's also issues that I've been researching in terms of every time we use AI, it has a definite impact on the environment. So I think that that's also should be part of our conversation because it uses a lot of water, for example. It uses space. It displaces people in low-income areas. It has all sorts of effects. So I think that we need some sort of measured approach. Definitely. How do you talk? How do you interact with people? If you can maybe learn and say, oh, that's how somebody else might have said that. Maybe I'll try that next time. Or you can start to incorporate words or the way you say things that might be received a

192little bit better. I see, you know. actually it was amazing now granted i'm older but you know i started off the calculator in my career so where we're at now is amazing i can only imagine the challenges our kids are going to have with this stuff and so um anyhow it's it's uh these are some exciting times it's exciting times yeah as you can tell we introduced rich to chat gpt this week it is exciting um Did I already ask for public comment? She introduced it just where everybody knows she says rich write your thing and then she puts chachi pieces Make him say the same thing but in one minute That was how he used it Okay, any other discussion on this side? I think it's also important to acknowledge that chat GPT also

193often gives wrong information. So a lot of students can go to that looking to fact check something or help them with a question that they're struggling on and it can give them fake information. So I think that's really important to address. And also, I know a lot of students, like obviously many people use it to cheat, but a lot of students are being falsely accused of cheating and there's really no way to defend yourself. Because, you know, fact checkers like zero GDP or something, you can put it in there and it'll say like 20% AI generated, even if it was completely human written. or 10% AI generated if it was completely done by ChatGPT. So I think it's really important to sort of figure out the signs on how to identify it. Because I know

194one main identifier of ChatGPT, for example, is the little dashes. But a lot of students like Kylie and I will learn that in our English class, just it's proper grammar. So I think it's really important for teachers to figure that out. Like I know Kylie and I recently turned in our psych papers and more than half the class failed because they were... suspected of using AI. So I think that can definitely damage a lot of students' reputations. Maybe makes them want to try a little bit less. So it's important to educate students on the harmful effects of AI, but also teachers of accurately finding out who's using it and being able to interpret between the two. This is like really relevant too. I feel like AI is such a common conversation piece. Like I think

195in almost every single debate we do, sometimes there's AI involved. Like we talk about AI, we talk about the positives and negatives of it. And then recently I did like an argumentative little paragraph in my English class talking about the positive and negatives of AI. And my perspective, I think that it can be helpful in like helping you study, generating MCQs, generating like FRQs that you can practice with. But I just think it totally removes the process, like the relationship between student and educator. It kind of makes it easier for a student to just be like, oh, I can ask chat to UBT because it'll know because it's AI generated instead of. going to their teacher and having that face-to-face conversation and working through it, or even going to a tutor. Because I think a

196huge part of learning is that emotional aspect of it where you see them and you get to connect with them and you learn that way. OK. Thanks. I don't remember if I got a motion in a second already. So I'm OK. I didn't. So no public comment. And then do I have a motion on this item? I'll make a motion. Thank you. I'll second. Thanks. All in favor? Aye. Great. Brian, stay where you are. We're going to do the March 2025 CSPA recommended changes. And after this one, we will be caught up. That's so amazing. So for this one, there's actually, you'll have some choices to make. We don't have to implement a cell phone policy until 2026, but we do need to develop the plan. If you go to the red line changes for

197that particular section, it presents option one, option two. Option one says that cell phone use shall not be used during instructional time unless, and there's a caveat down below that says unless. the teacher has given permission for instructional purposes option two is you can't have cell phones on campus period and so we're recommending right now option one and then we can have committees and and expand on what we would consider the restrictions and appropriate use within the classroom okay the the i'm glad you brought this up and kudos for already getting on this so quick one of the parents said alerted me to this or whatever had some really good suggestions I thought this is this could be really I know how to use every kind of phone because I was alive for every generation.

198There's a lot of kids. They were born with a smartphone. And more than that, their parents were born with them having a smartphone. And that access, constant access, availability, there could be some withdrawal syndromes from a lot of folks. That may not necessarily be so bad in some regards. I really suggest that we take this one specific issue about the cell phones and we really do an incredible amount of outreach to the community. And we do it early and we get maybe we have a thing where we have parents come, kids come, and we talk about it. I don't even know if it's a work session or whatever, but that way we have the time to ferret out. Things that we haven't maybe thought about or whatever. I like your idea of the option one

199versus the just cold hard off because there's a lot of tools in those phones too. And again, part of growing up is learning how to master. Things that can be a tool I mean a car is a wonderful thing and if you use it improperly you can hurt a lot of people and use properly you can do amazing things with it for people too, so I think we can use cell phones their smartphones as a This is a good opportunity for us to teach people how to have some delayed gratification. No, we're not doing that right now We're gonna do this and so on so forth but I really think that we need to bring the community in on this one because it's gonna be lot of issues and I'd love to get the feedback

200from all the all stakeholders parents everybody and that way we can I think we can do just like our districts have been kind of a Trailblazer and a lot of different things going back to covin what have you I think there's an area we can get on early and And get information from folks, but also get the word out So that way you know through parent square and just all other however we do it so that everybody can give us feedback and get it good while the feedback is positive before they just all of a sudden feel like they got blindsided and then they're it's negative and so every from tk-8 have already adopted option one that is the policy so really we are talking about a nine through twelve discussion um the highest the

201three high schools we have are the are the only ones that may be using them as part of their their classroom instruction okay just it's just gonna be a lot of education and a lot of uh i don't say transparency because that's not we're not trying to hide it's just more disclosure and then again let's let's bring folks in this is an area that i think one thank you for getting on it right away and uh two i think to do otherwise it would be a self-inflicted wound for us so we can avoid okay any comments or discussion from down here no okay i was gonna Okay. So the recommendation is to adopt option one. Right now, you have a whole month to review these. Oh, this is a first reading? Yes. Okay. So it'll

202come back, and then the recommendation is to, when we come back, adopt option one, and then to have a bigger... and more in-depth discussion potentially on the subcommittee and then with the community on kind of the 9th through 12th well maybe the district-wide policy correct that we want to implement going forward starting in the 2026 we were expecting that we would take all of next year to have this conversation because we know that um I think one of our fears was because there's exempt there's certain exemptions carved out for medical reasons that we were we were hoping to not have to be signing every kid an exemption for having to have their phone out and having... Because we did that once with headphones where everybody wanted to be able to listen to music while they

203were in class. So then everyone got a doctor's note saying they could listen to music while they were in class. So we want to think about everything before we move forward with this. Good idea. Okay. Well, then this is just a first reading. So we'll just... I'll ask, is there any public comment on this item? okay seeing none i think we just just so i'm clear so and that way people are listening to this yeah i know they are so this is the first reading it's going to come back to us next month at our next meeting and what we're doing is we're approving that we're going to work on it well i think the recommendation is to approve a policy that's already in place k through eight and extend and extend that through 912.

204okay and then knowing that it's not enacted until 2020 july of 2026. and then oh that policy oh so this is not for next year correct the year after oh okay and so then that that's why i just want to be clear so thanks they were approving theoretically we would be approving it next month for implementation in 2026 but we have next year to refine it. Yes. And if I can make a statement, board policies are the overarching general kind of policy, right? That's what we're approving now. What we're probably going to end up doing based on what I'm hearing is developing an AR, an administrative regulation that employs the policy. It dictates what the policy is saying. So that's really what we're probably going to develop. Okay. That's helpful. I got that mixed up.

205I thought we were implementing one policy for the coming school year and then... coming up with another one for the following so how we implement it's mostly what i'm most concerned about is just that we get a lot of feedback from the community so we don't get slammed in the head later i'm clear we heard we heard it for a year but that we're studying exactly yeah perfect okay thanks so we're moving to our last item thanks annette for bringing us home we have 5 10 and 5 11. i i only have 5 10 on my agenda No, we did that one. I. Oh, yeah. That was Adam. Yeah. Okay. So this is item 510. This is consideration of approval of the revised curriculum adoption proposal form. And this is being presented by Annette Zucconi.

206Good evening. Sorry I missed you at the last month's meeting when our math improvement team presented. I was home really, really ill, but I was cheering them on and you guys on from my recliner. Thanks for your support on that topic. We just had our final meeting this week, and that team is solid and ready for another two years. all right this evening i'm here to share with you some information about the revised curriculum adoption form this was triggered by assembly bill 1078 it was enacted in 2023 It's a California law aimed at strengthening protections against censorship and discrimination in schools. The bill was created in response to growing concerns about attempts to remove books and curriculum that reflect experiences of historically marginalized. communities. The core objectives of this bill, you may have read it

207in item 5.7, the October 2023 document is where you would find information about this assembly bill. The core objectives are to prevent discriminatory censorship of instructional materials, textbooks, and library books. to ensure that all students have access to diverse and inclusive educational content, regardless of their race, gender, identity, sexual orientation, religion, or cultural background. It's also one of its objectives is to affirm the authority of the state and local educational agencies to provide curricula that are factually accurate and reflective of diverse populations and aligned with state standards. So in the new form, there is a section. called AB 1078 compliance checklist where we ask questions to those proposing new curriculum. We ask them does the curriculum include contributions from diverse racial, ethnic, and cultural groups? Are LGBTQ individuals and individuals with disabilities represented? Does it

208avoid exclusion or censorship based on race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation or disability? And are multiple perspectives and accurate historical social narratives included? And so I'm happy to answer any questions. um and submit it to you for consideration of approval i have a question so i understand that this is requirement now that you have this checklist because of ab 1078 correct yeah we're following the law and serving all students equitably making sure that we have a transparent and respectful dialogue about the curriculum we are selecting i i appreciate that and It's just we're in a political climate now where DEI stuff is being attacked. And I'm just wondering, I'm just saying hypothetically, if you check no on any of those boxes, does that eliminate that curriculum from being adopted? I think it sparks a conversation about

209what it is that might be of concern or if there are ways for us to fill in any of the gaps. No, believe me, I'm for all the DEI stuff, but I probably shouldn't even say that publicly, but because it is under attack from Washington. So I'm just wondering that that had to be included in this form. No, these are proposed questions to ask whomever chooses to propose curriculum that they've considered these things that we're required and you're required to consider. I want to ask a question really quick before we move into further discussion. I just want to know, is it just that we just have to have the form and that has to be considered and there has to be a discussion or is there some type of requirement tied to it? there's no

210requirement with these specific questions so where do they come from they came from the requirements so that we hold ourselves accountable you just said that there is no Maybe I misunderstood what you just said. You mean the state requirements, right? Yeah. So the law set forth the questions that have to be in. The law didn't write the questions for us. Okay. The law states clearly what we need to, what we're responsible for ensuring are included when we adopt curriculum to educate students in the California school system. I'm going to ask, does this need to be approved tonight? No, I'm gonna ask that we table this item and we Bring it back next meeting. I'd like to have this. I want to know what the law is because these questions I'd like to table this discussion

211one because of the time of the evening we're not gonna be able to have a discussion about it and then i like to table this for right now and i appreciate that and i understand your desire to look more thoroughly into it and your responsibility in terms of how you implement this new law i'm going to recommend that a a thorough summary of what it is is available to you under item 5.7 the october 2023 document will give you a significant multiple pages of background on this new requirement. I think what I'm going to propose is when we come back that we put together a presentation that really walks you through so that it's just easier to follow and then that might help. you to understand all because she did a lot of work on

212this right with us with a group and that might help you understand how the work came to be this form so maybe we'll put together a presentation so we can teach the whole process i'd also like to say something very brief because i feel very passionate about this topic and i think that this responds a little bit to paul and rich with the understanding we're going to talk about it more in the future by at a future meeting but i just want to say that i was very excited that the governor decided to you know require um this language but also to require ethnic studies classes at the high school level is very important because i just want to say that it's not d i right d i became this buzzword about you know making

213um everything more diverse and equitable but california history for example is mexican and latino history right but we never got that growing up i didn't a lot of people did not Right. So it's been excluded historically for a very long time, which really marginalizes and erases the experience of Mexicans and Latinos and Chicanos. Right. And now finally, we have people that have been fighting for this for years. You know, student activists at the college level have been fighting for this for years. And finally, it happens. So it's just a really critical moment. And I think it happened in a good way because now we have. something that has been building with momentum, you know, to push back on, you know, whatever comes down from the White House. Right. So it's really a critical time. I'm

214excited for this and I look forward to discussing this more at a future meeting. Sure. That's my only comment. But to your point, you know, Native Americans feel the same way. And anyhow, I mean, I hate to say this, but right now I'm a little skeptical. When people tell me what lawyers tell me something means, because I've had a couple of weeks now of people force feeding me what a law says. And then I read the law and I'm going, that's that's I don't have any more. I don't have any more money to say. But it's a farm animal thing. Right. And. and so so i i i have to do a little bit more i think we all need to um to do a little bit more not reflective on you and i appreciate

215the work and so i i like jeremy's suggestion of helping us go through this in a little bit of an educational manner thank you for pointing out that we just approved one of the things is one of the basis for for some of the things and um you know it It's kind of like spinach. I just want to understand how good it is for me before I eat it. So. Thanks. And just one thing that just made me really uncomfortable right now, you know, I only said Chicanos, Mexicans and Latinos as an example. That doesn't mean that, you know, that this doesn't cover the experiences of other people. So this also covers, for example, Asian-Americans, African-Americans, Native Americans. Right. But I just use that as an example. Sure. Yeah. And Annette, we appreciate all the

216work that you did on this and the group that put this together. And we just care about this and getting it right. Well, not even, we know you got it right. We just want to make sure we understand it. You're not hurting feelings. I appreciate that you're thorough in your interest. and I'm looking forward to June when we get to have more discussion we just want to have a long more discussion at our meetings that's all we're just trying to spend more time with you well thank you for the time this evening I appreciate you thank you okay so we will table this item and we are going to recess well I think 6.1 we can skip future board meeting items unless we talk okay so there was a little bit of outreach and this

217kind of goes to ethnic studies and we had public comment about the circle keepers and I would very much and I don't know if time has passed and it is simply too late to adjust and whether we need to prioritize more funding for additional staffing for certain classes at the high school um i will just say simply i think some decisions were made that i felt were rushed i was not at the april meeting i don't know madam president was there discussion about leaving certain classes in the catalog but not having them offered because of the levy of requirements now for state mandated ethnic studies I don't know if that came up I don't recall that being an item I don't think it did either because I look at the agenda so my concern is

218for a future board meeting students are leaving the school in three weeks how do we give policy guidance and maybe reorient or maybe additional resources to know that there has been listening response and some action taken I mean when I hear 3419 I'm wondering why isn't a class being offered that has been offered? Sorry, I'm not comfortable with the way that at least it was reached out to me, which was a telephone call about what might we do? We have so many sections. We have to do ethnic studies. As I understand, part of the solution was, well, we won't take it out of the academic calendar, but we have classes in the catalog that aren't offered. I feel that was hurried as a done deal, frankly. And so I don't know what we do now

219that we're on the 15th of May, if there's time for students to be responsive at all to some of those questions that had come up. And I don't know if there are other classes that didn't have a constituency of alumni to come and talk about the merits of it, if I'm being clear. Yeah, I'm concerned about that. And so I don't know what we do if in fact we've got to reorient a bunch of teaching resources What I got when I missed the meeting was well, it would cost more to continue certain classes Great. Let us make the decision about that if we want to do that not we're just not going to do some classes because we have ethnic studies that is going to take this amount of FTEs And I raise it now

220because we haven't had the chance to even address the fact these people came. What do we think about that? Do they raise a legitimate concern? You know, I talked a little bit offline with the cabinet over there. So I think to the chair, I would like to figure out how we can talk about that, but I fear that the time has passed. right i don't we'll talk to danielle i think what's what's tricky here bill is what i do with my high school principal very specifically my school principal is i approve a certain number of fte that's what we do together and then you approve a catalog These are the classes. I approve how many sections of those classes. I don't get into the weeds of saying you have to have that class, that class,

221and that class. So usually they do outreach. They see how many students are interested. Based on that, they decide which classes are going to fill, right? Six sections of art or seven sections of art. What was tricky, as you already pointed out, is we're required to offer ethnic studies, eight sections. And so when you have that, we're required to have those courses. Well, you can just add eight sections. That's a very expensive way to do things, or they're going to replace certain sections because you still have the same number of students. If you just add them, then you have smaller class sizes. Right. And I know you know this bill. I'm just saying it for everybody. And so I think for for us, it doesn't have to be circle keepers. Right. The problem with with

222at the time when I called you is there were 10 students in the class. And so when Danielle is trying to balance master schedule, look at everything. And she's saying, I have a class of only 10 and we have some other classes that are like that, but we've used prop 28 funds to keep those. So we're funding those small class sizes with prop 28 funds. So I guess I'm trying to figure out what we're doing because I don't want to get into us into a situation where we are completely micromanaging her master. Not one of micromanages, but. We're being force-fed a mandate now to do a particular kind of historical relevance coming right down from CDA and government that finally passed after it was vetoed one time. And we have eight sections of ethnic studies

223that have taken eight sections of something else. Yes. And I am a little concerned about that. Only... that i don't know that we were asked to say well can we do four sections and not lose eight sections of other things that were being taught brian do you know that answer and and again i i that's that was not the meeting and you didn't know about this but we had it come and we we haven't spoken of it and it concerns me quite a great so next year we're only required to offer one section and that's all we're offering the following year becomes a graduation requirement so the way we came up with that number eight sections was if you have a class of 400 and you figure if at least every year one whole equivalent

224of one whole class took the course, that's about 16 semester length sections. So eight total year long sections. And so in order to, and those would count towards electives. They're not part of the three year history of social studies requirements. So we'd go into the elective field. So in order to maintain the same number of FTE, we are going to have to eliminate eight other electives in order to make room for the total schedule for that. And so in Windsor, we've always done it based on student choice. And so that's one of the conversations we're having is where are we going to make the cuts? Okay, but I just want to clarify. So the circle keepers issue is separate from that, right? Like these are two separate issues. Well, not exactly. It will cause an

225effect. But only one section is being offered this coming year. This is a 2026 implementation, right? And that's why we haven't... We have to cut an elective to add in that one section. Like a single section. at the time when we when we looked at all the course requests at the time circle keepers was the lowest enrolled class what Ms. Buckman said was if we can fill it then we keep it and so when Mr. Sandwina says that there's 34 people well she's going to do her best to to make all those accommodations to fill that class then the class stays no one has cut the class I think that was not said correctly tonight So if the class is filled, then we have to make our cuts elsewhere. Right. And I think my point

226is we have been mandated to add a class at the high school. I don't recall being asked when this was being offered, hey, one option is one or half, one, two FTEs add. I don't think this body was asked that policy question to say, do you want to prioritize when Big Brother in Sacramento has said, you will teach this thing. Now, do you want to add to do that, or do you want to dilute, remove, not do things we have been doing? And that's my concern. Understood. Right? And I don't think that we, but I think it may be moot because I don't know that there's. There's time to do anything if it's if it's student choice I hear you assistant superintendent, but I'm saying we can make policy choices too and we can encourage

227and direct say well We'll make sure these are out there. I just don't think we've had that discussion madam president. You know You know, we got to do this and this has nothing to do with the merits or lack thereof or you know the questions and comments about Ethnic Studies, it's when we have additional requirements placed on us We perhaps need and I don't want to micromanage high school or any of the principles what you're out to say You know, should we repart prioritize some resources or maybe dig a little deeper? I don't recall that that even came up I didn't think to ask the question when we didn't go got ethnic studies. Okay at what cost to our status quo programs? That's my concern. Yeah I'd like to have a broader conversation about it's

228a really good point. Yep. It's a really good point and I think you know, you have your system of how you manage your administrators and i think this is like a policy thing that we need to pull out yeah i just made the call because of fte and i looked at a budget and said how many kids do you have you have more kids it justifies more fte i just did my normal math calculation yeah i understand but i think when we have like the way i think a way to think of it if we have a new book that we're introducing that's going to be taught in a class we have to look at it. I think the same thing if we have a new class that's going to be introduced and it's going

229to impact the schedule, then I think we have to look at it. Very fair. Yeah, I must have missed that when I heard that that was a requirement, I didn't connect that. That means we're wiping out electives because because one of the things that I just keep hearing over and over and over again is not, you know, kids aren't coming to Windsor because Santa Rosa sucks. They're coming to Windsor because Windsor is excellent. And we have all these offerings. Well, let me say this. It doesn't mean you're wiping out electives. It means you're wiping out sections, which is a very different conversation. You still may have art one, art two, art three. You just may have less sections of art one, art two, art three. We're not eliminating these electives. It's sections. I mean, thank

230you for that clarification. Because when I was listening to the kids, I understand. and when when i started coaching i got one wrestler and i was told i had to have more so i just had to well no i mean hey if you want to yeah right and so i'm out there and i was going to tell the kids we had a chance talking to say hey i implemented a program called each one reach one right i noticed that most of the kids had talked a lot of them were seniors so if there's 12 or 13 14 kids in the class now and i'm going to guess maybe half were seniors that means there's six that are coming back next year for that class. And so are the six that are leaving, do they go

231find someone to replace them in that class? Are the other six going to getting more folks? I mean, look, I love Gene. The guy's got a heart of gold. We all do. And I mean, no better mentor or human being out there that we could have our kids hang around a person like that. And the thing that they're doing, I think, is awesome as well. So this is not it. So if we want to promote something like that, right? I mean, I've told teachers for a long time, sometimes, you know, you've got to go out and you've got to recruit. You've got to make things what it is. So anyhow, this is another conversation, this conversation that we can have another time. It will lead to a greater policy discussion, Rich, because we've made certain

232decisions with Prop 28 funds that have funded sections that have very low enrollment because we have extra funds that have allowed us to do that. So I think it's going to lead to a. a serious discussion around how we decide which classes move forward. And I think I might know someone who teaches some of those classes. Correct. You might. Because there's AP courses that are very lowly enrolled. There are band courses that are very lowly enrolled. Yeah, but it's worth having the conversation because it's about our priorities and what we want to focus on and we need to have it together. I don't feel any type of negative way about the conversation. But I think sometimes we're just like, We have to do so many things. Like, our administrators are doing a thousand things, like,

233a day. And I think it's easy to just make a decision, like, oh, I don't have the numbers here. I'm going to do this. But sometimes the implications are bigger. So I think we just have to, like, make sure that we're not rushing forward. I just want to let everybody know, remind that we are going to report out of closed session sometime later on tonight. So if you want to hang around for the exciting news, whatever it is. uh we'll we'll i'm sure it'll be good it's just so yeah it's just a pao there's no assignment order that's the only thing yeah so we are going to recess into closed session right now thank you so much for attending i gotta have you stay buddy