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April 22 2025 BCBE Work Session

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YouTube / BCBE Board Videos
Date
2025-04-23
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Baldwin County, AL
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5,879 words · about 33 min
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2026-06-26

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001All right, it's 5:00 April the 22nd office work. I want to appreciate everybody being here tonight. Uh we're going to of course have senior staff. We'll have John Wilson report and we'll look at the agenda items and we will have session at the end of our work session. Is that good? But we get to start funding those accommodations. I think so. I like that. We are pleased to announce that 68 Baltimore County seniors will be awarded the Alabama Seal of Biiteracy this spring. These seniors have demonstrated proficiency in Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, German, or Vietnamese, as well as the English language, and will earn the Alabama State Seal of Literacy. These students will be awarded the seal by literacy medallion and will receive the seal on their official transcript. We have representatives from each school here

002with us tonight. As you hear your school's name, please come to the podium. Baldwin went down in high school. representative from County High School. Dapne High School County High School, by the way, had two. Daphne High School had nine. Alberta High School had three. [Music] Robert Hill High School had 18. And finally, Spanish Fort High School had seven. We're going to take a picture really quick. I'll scoot in just a little bit. Ready? One, two, three. Congratulations. Congratulations. We're very proud of each of you. Thank you so much. At this time, I'll turn the meeting over to our superintendent. our staff reports. We'll start down at the far end. Not sure who that is. Okay. Uh just real quick, um you guys will be voting in hopefully safety start with us on May 1st. It's

003time that we start making sure that our safety is is a big priority for us. This person is going to do that. Um thank you all. But uh I'm looking forward to working with him. Um it'll be on floor one and very second numbers added right now. We still have seven kids working so far this year. Um we've got about 11 or so that are on day close. may get done if not by the end of school right after that. So we're looking at somewhere at the 130 mark and that represents um joint for that when that goes out to the student we're looking anywhere from 2 to 10% of their graduation rate increase because of that. That's big deal. Yeah. So right now Daffany High School has 35 impact graduates 25. So that's every

004bit of 8 to 10% of their graduation rate impact program. So okay that's what you big deal. So this schools that were running at that 80 you know 80 85%. So it's doing a good job. Uh next thing uh we are looking now public safety. Uh we're going to be looking at purchasing metal detector sheets uh that we use national next year. Um we want to make sure we have the right products. We've been very careful about that years now and fair obviously started this year because of the city wanted to do that and we said you know what this is. So we're looking for that and kind of a policy about what entry looks what you can bring in your game and things like that. So, I want you to know about that. Spring

005sports, uh, they're done for the regular season, so there's lots of teams in the playoffs. You get a chance, please go out and, uh, uh, hope you can go out and see some games. Really good stuff. Uh the last thing we talked about this before I just want to I know some of you are relieved that the athletic director position away from the football coach person that is not coaching that will not have any coaching duties. Um at our last staff meeting we had kind of discussed and didn't really priorize that this person would be an administrator. um they would have a supplement that would all the extra duties that they required to continue in the evenings. So that's a question about the AD position. What is what [Music] stands These are attending a lot

006of after school activities uh into late late hours. So that turns into long days. These guys all the work throughout the day. So just want to talk about so I mean the biggest parts will be money. You know our administrators are already put on contracts already. We're all looking at some so 8,000 lb is that if we do a stand uh we're looking at seven email the schooling is going to be expected to attend uh you know number of activities. That's why she principal actually takes a schedule. Okay, we're going to go take volleyball over here. We're going to take baseball and confers to make sure that there's some representation there. And you know the ad hoping to move around when they can. They have money to make sure our schools are in order that

007there's a budget. I don't think there's been a budget and we get y'all get $30,000 I believe every high school. I'm not sure I've never seen a budget uh at the high school cuz you got non residents who wants to need something and uh so make sure to pay for it. They're compliant. They have parent meetings. uh you know a state I thought about stay be great. I think it's a great idea. Uh I was going to go to come down and I think the push back especially for uh Alberta is a lot of these guys qualified they're getting more coaching a sport strength sport than what they would be and so that stretch pool of to keep that's kind of talking about these things when we talk to John about what that we want

008to look like. I emailed the communications heard a little bit earlier today. They are participating in law day um again this year. It's going to be May 1st and 2nd and it's where attorneys from throughout the county um and talk about the law profession to seniors at our high schools get them interested in the profession. Um and I believe all of our high schools are participating this year on that um after it happens on May 1st and second. Well, we are super excited to host another B County Schools career fair tomorrow. We are set up and ready to go to Robert Coliseum. HR staff and myself spend most of the day there setting up the tables, getting everything ready for that. So, we're super excited to see uh see what turns out tomorrow, who turns

009out tomorrow. Uh as of just a couple hours ago, we have 206 advertisements. That's teachers, classified staff, everybody. So, uh, we should have a good turnout and hopefully our principles will will find some some great applicants. So, super excited that you can maybe stick your hand in, say hello, and see what's going on tomorrow. Um, edtech has been busy implementing a piece of software called simple discipline for discipline throughout the district piece of software for registration called schooling is supposed to that is going to make our work for parents a lot smoother. Um the Thompson Bruters average verification software that you all approved last month and month before last is running and we're achieving about an 80% verification rate which means that the registar workload is being reduced by 80% of that verification. We're gearing

010up for grades this summer and we're starting to prepare for our summer refresh. Thank you. Good evening. I've asked uh Amy Mleen, our gifted and library supervisor for a quick presentation tonight just to keep you up to speed on on purchasing library materials and when uh library materials get challenged what those processes are. Good evening. My name is Amy Mleen and as sharing education department in my give you some updates about our purchasing procedures that we implemented this school year. Um everything is in alignment with the handling that was adopted last March and really proud of these procedures. We were able to bring some consistency, accountability and protection um to our librarians and our purchases. So, first of all, the procedures start with um the principle of establishing a committee that is responsible for reviewing

011library materials that we purchase. So, all titles will go through the committee before they actually leave shop. So the formation there actually two committees that were put into place this school year. So the first committee is the material selection committee. The second is the media review committee committee and that committee takes action when there's a review request. So each school administrator forms their committee. The committee is meant for the library media specialist um an administrator or designate faculty within the school parents of students and optionally a student can be on the committee. So for every purchase the librarian provides the library material selection committee a list of materials prior to making the purchase so the titles can be reviewed. After reviewing the titles, the committee then signs off that they have indeed reviewed the materials

012and agree with the purchase. Then the librarian submits that form attached to an electronic document that was created and developed by our IT department and that form the library material selection committee responsible serves as the requisition. So we tried to eliminate some redundant work for our librarians because their primary purchases collection in the library and they make a lot of purchases. So we wanted to streamline the process for them to make it efficient. So that form actually reserves as the requisition and once the digital form is completed it's routed to the bookkeeper. So, the bookkeeper made sure that the committee response form has been completed, that the titles have all been outlined with pricing and they've all been reviewed and the committee has signed off. And then the bookkeeper sends a purchasing insurance form to

013the principal who reviews the titles and make sure everything's in place for the purchase to happen. And then finally, the bookkeeper presides provides the principal with the purchase order. And then after that, the librarian makes the purchase. So, it's been going very well. Once the digital forms are submitted, I'm able to go in and review and make sure that these forms have been attached and everything has been reviewed and approved. So, review requests go this way. We're very fortunate um to have a very consistent admission process in place. Um, it can be issued by a parent or guardian, a current student or employee in the B County school system. Request can be made between September 15th and March 15th. And then once it's made um these these these steps take place. Oh that a request

014can be made to a librarian can be made to the principal. It can be made to another employee but the complaintant is essentially they'll put in touch with me and then we initiate a process to review material. They're given an email and then the email address initiates the whole process. So once the email is sent to that email address, the link to the Google form is sent to the complaintant where the required information is laid out for them to provide. Um challenges are determined as a local district. That's another thing that was in our approved handbook from last week. And then depending on the level of the review, the appropriate committee will carry out the process to determine if the book is appropriate to be redistributed to a different level library. Um and then timelines

015follow that book. Then depending on the outcome of the challenge, um these are the responses. If the book is not able to be kept to elementary but can be offered to a middle or high school level school, then it be offered to a librarian within the county. And then if the book is not able to be kept to any librarian, all books will be sent to prayer um to the central office in my county to my Thank you. Any questions? So, I'll just have a question without a comment. I kind of brought this up. I was talking to the superintendent a few months ago about this. The the issue I have is uh so you can uh go and look at all the inventory that we have for Texas online. Um and I went through

016and I looked at certain topics. Um, and I was kind I was kind of disturbed by some of the things I saw. I saw multiple campuses having books about school shootings, multiple campuses having books about combine and literally the book is like combine how they did it and walks through like when I I as a soldier would call these tactics and procedures of how you got the school shooting. We're also concerned about there are several when I say several I'm talking like 12 to 15 on multiple campuses where it's a non-fiction book I'm sorry it's a fiction book non-fiction is the issue but there's fictional books about where they're in a troubled relationship and they break up the kid comes on campus and kills himself the kid becomes a school shooter and it walks through,

017you know, him having a school shooting and and and it's and it's not one or two, it's multiple. I know we got process. I know we've cleaned up a lot of things on the worst offenders that have been identified, but the most of these books look like they, you know, they were shel there. They're all a lot of these are like 2021, 2022, 2023 print books. So, they're very new. uh they predate this policy but at the same time um I don't think I think we went back and look I don't think we can deliver any anything to the public that says hey this is actually reviewed in any in any fashion that we get because I don't think those books should be on the shelves we also have a lot of you know I

018don't know the world stands on this we have a lot of transgender content we have and a lot of it is um resources for transgender students resources for how to get blocked. There's resources for how to how to uh you know marry up with with public groups where you can where you can uh you know get I don't know I don't know exactly what all the resources are. I can assume what they are. Uh you know I'm concerned about those topics. Um some of them are in the middle school libraries. So uh you know the elementary school libraries look look great. We have a lot of libraries are doing a great job have great curation renovations but then uh high school some of those schools but we have I'm going to run through all this

019short this just it needs it needs to come to an end and needs needs to be cleaned up in s I you mentioned you spoke to me yes sir and I reached out to Mr. And I told you I reached out to her and she was going to contact you and listen to your concerns, but I won't let that ever happen. You said at the time, so don't worry about contact. No, I I didn't want I told you go on the treadmill of looking at individual topics and going look that's that's what I want is to have a systemic solution for this to where we don't have these topics but I want you also I saw the email comment didn't really have exactly what this you know I think some confusion but I do I

020want to finish one second there's books on suicide bombers and I want to write more better. There's books about we're going to go and talk with these folks in Palestine. We're going to talk with folks in Syria about how they became a suicide bomber and why, you know, the pros and cons of being a suicide bomb. There's no there's absolutely no way that you go anywhere in our school system. And it's and we've got we got we got to figure it out. It's not just, you know, we're chasing our tail here looking at individual books and we're sort of saying, "Hey, public, you bring us your one individual very specific issue and we'll deal with it. We don't think it's a systemic problem." It's absolutely a systemic problem. And I want to say one other

021thing. The Sor app, okay, I showed you the presentation that it's still online at UDrive on their third party vendor which talks about the uh about the Sora app and how we need equitable libraries and children equitable access to basically all content on planet Earth. And we that's our our folks gave that presentation. is on there and says, "Hey, this is our policy that we we need to have all kids access all content at all times." And that's I don't think that's our policy. So, uh so just you know, you know, you brought the [Music] resh and he was thinking that there might be a way when the child checks out the book or wants to check out before they can actually physically get that book that their parents will be notified and there will

022be a form for them to fill out along with all the information to look them up about that book and decide whether their child that book. That was something he was thinking about. Would that be something that might be a solution? Well, I I think the the solution here is that we've talked about this and I don't think you're interested in, but I think we need to have a standard package for our high schools until we can fix this. This is what this is what your high school has. Then come to the board and say we would like to have this, but we need, you know, more school shooting and we need more suicide honors, you know, public and it could be, you know, this we have to go back. We got to have some

023sort of reception. But I didn't Everything you're saying makes sense. I'm a little concerned that you would say that you didn't think I was very interested. I mean, there again, I reached out. I told you I reached out to her. I guess that meeting never happened cuz she could explain everything in the process. But to say that I was I'm not interested in this this guy, that's just not true. I mean I agree with everything you're saying with the process if it is so deep in and embedded in our libraries and it's a strategic problem. Uh so that's why I was getting you to the person in charge to come up with some ideas with the committee that they can bring to us in person. We're on the same page. Well, I personally feel like

024we're continually being put on the treadmill here about this issue because we want to follow the ALA standards and maintain what we think these folks professional develop get taught the right way falls under under certain certain standard here to our schools. And uh you know I'm just one person responsible and uh maybe maybe everybody thinks it's important and Amy what we'll do I know we're getting distributed within the next couple of weeks get up with me and let's get your committee let's get our assistance let's see if we can't come up with uh a solution uh and make some good points uh maybe something we can do Not okay to do that. Maybe we can blanket something where these things don't need and take a lot of time to go back to all the books

025that are already there and to pull those out and all the is going to take a little while. So I think that it can be different. Well, we you know I know we turn Sora off to another country. I don't know. You know I we need a better look at what you can actually access on Sora. Um I was just kind of it kind of irritated the art symbols county schools. I told them about this. or on a third party vendor's website say this is the way to do things and then I should probably she go through before next fall see we can't affect what comes into our library will be all year. Okay. We just need to have it where once once we we clean it up where there's a process that is comfortable

026with that, you know, we know what's happening out. I do have a question. So like I taught in Florida when I was in middle school at that time was a year and a half ago. That's what we were doing. We were going to the library to get all the books. So there was a record. We could actually search them. But also they had to do that for every single teacher's classroom because we might control the library but didn't have any control over what they bring into the classroom. And you know and so at the school I was at all of the teachers required to read every single book and then get rid of the ones that were not appropriate in that classroom at grade level. you have here. We haven't yet, but I know that

027that process necessary to be quick because I thought that um that's a good point because we're seeing them in the library on the shelves and and you know that's another thing like if we have this approved list where they don't have on the list you're [Music] Yes. Questions for the coffee. That's okay. I just wanted to say that's a very detailed process. The other thing I have boarded is I you know you guys in a real brief ACT spreadsheet uh through the cruise. Um Tom's I thought he's going to present more detailed one at a later board meeting when we get asked about ACT subtest scores. Any question about that? I can answer those now or later. Lord, I was curious. Did y'all want me to provide an explanation of the specialized treatment center and

028the the information that was out on the web this week in the next article about East Point? Um, okay, I see people checking. Okay. So, um there was a news article that said we are in coordination or partnership. I I don't know the exact words, but also point regarding East Point. Um they're mental health facility that's over here in staffing. Um we we are not in any sort of agreement regarding East Point. It's not a collaboration with us. Um what East Point is is a 14-day acute facility for students who are in, you know, some sort of mental health crisis um for parents to be able to take them over to the Daphne Center instead of having to drive away to Mobile over to their point facility and specialized treatment centers in Alabama are defined

029under Alabama regulations um put put together by the state department of education. They are um the definition specifically is specialized treatment centers to provide various levels of specialized services in to students who demonstrate needs not typically addressed in a regular education setting. These state endorsed centers um receive appropriation from the education trust fund to provide educational services to students in grades K through 12. So my understanding of that process is that East Point has um applied to be a specialized treatment center. We also have two other specialized treatment centers that are within the boundaries of Baltimore County. What we are required to do under the law, if they are within our school system boundaries, is once they are approved as an STC by the Department of Education, we have to enter an ML with them

030in order to be the pass through entity for the education trust fund loans. um as well as it's our job under the law to then supervise the IEP services or the section 54 services that are rendered to those students while they're in that 14-day facility. So some of those interviews look like we provide a teacher um or a registar. That's what we do for our county youth center that's an ST. Sometimes it looks like we just simply pass through the funds. We have not entered into that interview point at this time because they just got that approval and they don't pay to open that facility till next year. But what it's meant to do is when they start taking those children on their own, they still have to receive some sort of education while they're

031there for those 14 days. So it's meant to provide that gap of education until they're dismissed from the acute facility and they would come back to us at that point. Is there any question about that? Question three. Um it's the correct me correctly if I'm wrong but it's JDC and then there's one called pathways yes and then it would be east one as well I've heard about you know pathways that overall capacity I believe East Point said they're going to have about 12 beds at the start. Um I I'm not sure exactly what I haven't talked to them lately, but what they were doing was East Point right now, I believe, services all adults. And so they're they're renovating BOI. They're going to then move their adult beds to BOI and then they'll see how

032much space they have for children at East. [Music] They serve multiple counties. If anybody anybody in the state by the court can get placed at that base and they actually JDC actually still serves five counties. So Baldwin County which we've we've said before they have plenty of kids they can go to JDC but that's the temporary juvenile detention hold. um the all the camera judges with the kids while they're waiting for their charges or to be out on bail. Yeah. I was just curious, you just have so many kids, you know, is there a goal like a sustainable statement centers Although when in talking about our potential partnership with Aldo putting a day school together, I think we would like to see 40 to 60 spots because right now at Wings and Store um which

033is also another facility that ultimately takes some of the children um we just don't have enough space. Yeah, I heard that just trying to get what we think. Yeah, we can talk about that. I'm not sure we can talk, but we're not sure. issues. We honestly haven't gotten that far into pitting down those numbers because it's all just been kind of waiting for the elementary to get built and then seeing what we might do. Unfortunately, California. So capacitywise, I think they're they're willing to serve us how they can, but um you know they'll not sign an agreement about January, right? We had signed and I thought I tried to stay awake even we have not done that correct to my knowledge. We we've signed several agreements with Al Point. Some of them have expired. Um

034you know, one-year agreements to have a social worker through funds or we had um an agreement with Al Point when we had that project success where they were in a service with a social worker, a sociologist. Um and that was just a one-year agreement. So, but we did not sign anything in January that I'm aware of. Are they contract contract for which part? The STC. Yes. They have to have a contract with us for the STC purposes because it's in our county and so they won't be able to open their STC without a contract with us and the state requires us to enter into a contract with them. Now, is the state? The state passes through the funds according to that account. All of it. Yes. I just pass through, but for they for them

035to get the funds, they have to go through us, right? I mean, we're just not at all with the shortage of there. Bay Point never has room for any of our children. So, and that's the Mobile facility. At Bay Point, Mobile County, they have their own day school and they serve about 100 kids in their day school. Um, and then they have the same acute facility at Bay.2 which serves kids to 14 days. It's very difficult for our kids to ever get in there. And then they have a residential treatment facility that's almost impossible to get any more children. You may already mention this, but the new um organization east east east are they servicing multiple counties also. So they would have to take from the peer links, but since they're located here, I mean

036we can primarily take oursel Hello everyone. All right, just going to do our brief financial update. Sure. Heat. Heat. All right. Um, so the financial update as of the end of March, you can see through this We're happy this year $22 million expenses related balance I said before um in March 50% of this year roughly about 57% of our budget revenue collected we're right on track at 51% of our expenses you see the dark blue line this year. We're a little below where we were um last year, but we're ahead of the previous years. Strong financially. Um same thing with the local revenue. You see, we received about all our revenue coast throughout the rest of this year on sales tax. Um this month, uh was a little bit less than received this month last

037year, but it was kind of in par 23. um sales tax were still above uh you can see from October to March 1% sales tax is a little over $30 million compared to where the last three previous years uh and so we're still seeing a good increase there you know break down the sales tax by month and you can see it's still this month that we saw in December that continues to kind of drive the increase the rest of the months have been pretty much align with the previous is that we did see at least five in December. I'm not obviously not this year at least by December. Uh but we'll take uh and so as we get into the summer months and those things will continue to it does seem like [Music] taxing. Uh

038we're still operating at roughly you know 32 $35 million operating uh of funding a month there. I said before property tax um we are right on budget. Um typically I take the budget I take 5% off of that to try to address any types of property that's that's reassessed on a lower valuation that was originally uh provided to us and that formul you know this allowing different property taxes and we're going to continue to receive a taxes on a monthly basis. Um, you know, on the legislative side, the Senate has passed the education trust fund bill with a couple of other uh bills as well. And the raise act is something that we're very excited about changes the funding from one adds a student specific uh multipliers into the funding um for special education, for

039ESL, for poverty uh and for rural areas. What that looks like is still to be determined. the law was a little debut from the state department of education. But once we get information what that's going to look like all the be we're excited for the first time we're going to actually have some dedicated special education fun as well as DSL based on actual student needs and not you know resource based just based on the money that's available students that are so that's a very positive step in the right direction to kind of see positive implication that you Any other questions? Question. Um, so I see that we have our return fees list. You got to break up. I guess you have a whole place for every attorney just in case they come back. Yeah. But

040I was I was looking so policy says supposed to every month report consultant fees. Do we have a roll up with that report? consultant fees consultant fees um every month report that I mean I'm not happy to do that it's not something historically just do what other reports you guys want me to do yeah I just noticed out the policy it said policy or or it does state I kind of I looked at your attorney's fee I thought that was it I said well that's just attorney and then the other thing is on the check register. Um maybe we need to do some clean up on that because like one of the one of the rows says default object value and I don't know that that's very informative to the board or the public but

041that $250,000 a month. So I think I know what that is and so I'm a little bit antic register that's the same format that every school system's required to do you know with all with throughout all so everybody's got on the same team offer and it's classified in the same format so I'm a little bit handicapped what that's probably being tied to is is a lot of times and this came up u you know in previous years is that our PR payments the payment will show that payment regions but we have we have all the documentation for every single purchase, you know, we have received sign off for every single purchase that's done there. So, I'll look into the default uh if it was if it's pulling some kind of error or something to that

042extent, but if there's ever any questions about anything, we got miles of options for that pulled. Yeah, there's a bunch of columns that say other other other's like a dozen different say other and I can't tell what that actually is. Um so like last month I mean what at least 10 month strategy appropriate it's uh I mean the board has approved I think it's 9500 I'm happy to add any reports anybody uh to add I know the legal report came up probably like a decade ago But I know that specifically related to the strategy, it's it's the same. Yeah. I just, you know, that that paragraph we have on board policy talks about what your limitations are and everything, you know, to try to understand what we're actually spending on. I mean, I see why

043it has that sentence about the monthly report because you can't really determine if we're within those thresholds without, you know, itemizing that that report. uh and for consultants and just cuz obviously you know it's good to understand I think there's some leeway on professional engagement so obviously you want to have you know we have a little bit of wiggle room you want to have a little better um I can talk with you offline so yeah just get a recommendation on it any details that we provide okay question for Thank you. That's all right. How would y'all like to do it? Any concern? Mr. Absolutely. Um should I ask Steve if I have a question come down I know you can do this any question of the agenda the uh board variance leave policy are we

044specifying certain days uh I know they can get some training in the summer and then use that to take some days off during the year are we saying it has to be one of these five days or we specify But you you're on track. Yes, sir. The calendar that I gave last um work session had those specific dates on it. If if you still I can give you a copy of that. Those are those are specific dates. They are they're limited to the dates they can do that on. Is there a certain amount of time? Um I as far as the the the form goes waiting to see if the board wanted to approve this. So if if I need to set a specific time, it doesn't need to be I would say right now

045it doesn't need to be, you know, a day in advance to let the principal know that we're doing this. So there will be a time frame where we can look at it and approve it. So yes, there will be a specific time frame with that. Okay. And then uh last question, Frank's not here, so we may not be able to answer this, but the bid from Portland, I just have a couple things. one number. [Music] Yeah, I mean that's not the process. That's an internal contract contract. Okay. Oh, the the donation of the I was just was just curious to see the donation from given the schedule for high school basketball. Just was curious why is that just bring it to y'all? Yes. Yes. So we typically bring it before if it has. Yes. But

046I'm glad they That's all Tony. Yeah, we talk about with athletic director and I know you talk about the coaches there and she can't pay him very much drinks with all day. It's like you told the little girl had to be out of bed. They didn't go to the career tech center. Sometimes you have to make a choice, you know. So that's going to be you buy you chew on that, you know, administrator and they not going to be in all the game but at the same time boys. It's going to be a test where kind of sign when you say yes like I it's more about oversight in our sports sometimes some of our sports maybe kind of frustration and may not we're not on the same page and have to kind of throw

047everybody back in or something might have happened before we can catch and then we've got to deal with that problem. But you know the money that the board gives each high school that's uh back when I was there like 14,000 you know that's $30,000 you give every high school for their athletics and I just feel like we talk about other budget you know John's never seen a budget so we just need some accountability there uh the non-revenue sports need to be taken care of that AD would kind of be that oversight interview to make sure that every school had a meeting with their parents were starting. So I understand that probably wouldn't be done. Yeah. And paperwork with the state department. You know what I say is you know I mean how much is sufficient

048you know to pay right you know you probably talk some good salary some 25 but you're right about sometimes I mean we just can't First I thought it would be great all that we just never approach if we just didn't know how many teachers that's got one school that has a coach assistant principal uh that will give up their sport and be their athletic director u and understands might be a little cut and paid because they're giving out the sport and taking the stockings and they're cool feature. I get extra month work this summer, but I want to talk to John and bring it back to y'all. But every school might not be able to do exactly the same thing, you know, that all, you know, we got to kind of build it to what

049fits that school. Sure. I was just curious what feedback are you getting from the most part I mean they understand this is a necessity u we need somebody's oversee calls are so big. You get those out for um and it's it's big money. There's a lot of money. Somebody needs to make sure they're somebody needs to make sure that is done right. Somebody needs to make sure somebody needs to make sure the fun deals did something wrong. And sometimes that obviously needs a big job and you know for years they just simply money and we gave football coach pay a little extra money and that just wouldn't do the job and some do better than others but it's time that we kind of take control of that and make sure everybody's accountable. So try to

050find that right person and then I get it right off the bat. That's true. But I mean that's one thing I guess hopefully fixes we didn't want to rush it to last year and last year we brought it up front said hey can you take a breath we took a breath off the brakes and we told that it will be brought back up in a year so start making complaint and uh I think I've heard positive things I had one reach out to me and asked for their particular situation I ran out So that that gives me food for thought about okay we need to look at circuit um 22 and 23 I just want to double check this is about elementary so um it's about the fractional reasons for and um the math which

051says that those are both requirements that the name state. I know I left out my teacher voice. So yes, those are both um required by the the map task force that enforces the act. So the I read benchmark assessment will replace the star map. So it's just one for the other. Okay. The fractional racing screener will be used to report the different students to assess where their fractional understanding is and then we'll use that to drive instruction. The IRA assessment is about 25 minutes to administer three times a year. The fraction screener it takes about 2 minutes to administer and we'll do that as needed with the students as the students. Yes. This is kind of the same question I had as Dr. Addition to um so the other question I have is I see

052K through six. So we are they doing online testing for inter? We do what the teachers do. They um in small group they bring the kids to the table and they'll test for three kids at a time and so the teacher is able to kind of walk them through kind of the assessment. Um with the assessment it's is very appropriate for Kinder. Um it takes like I said 20 minutes at the most for Kinder. goes up a little bit more. Okay. Just we're kind of overwhelmed. I mean, third grade the testing is something that's I know it's consuming teachers a lot of their time administrators and it'd be good someone did the analysis time. I'm just going to, you know, not just in the testing itself, but preparation kids, like you said, kindergarten test time

053kind of walking them through, you know, orient them to how to even do and particularly what they do because we get so many small groups as our normal instructions. That's just their small group for the day. So, it's just a part of what they do really like different stuff. Um but yeah, unfortunately we get a list of these are the things you can choose from from the math task force in the state department and that was one of the this is a better option. Yeah, I hope this start to me this is a better product and I appreciate the answer. Any other questions, comments concerning the agenda? Anybody? Uh, I guess you notice we're expecting a very large crowd. Very excited to have a very large crowd in your service tonight. And we're here because

054this roof will accommodate all over the park. That's the part. Um, and it's also should be located. It'll be easier for people from wherever to get here. They have to go in. communication that in addition to that uh you notice that the delegations that are only early in the meeting we move that till the end of the meeting but we'll still be in session we'll still be videoing and live stream and all that but we anticipate a lot of people that would like to speak and we encourage them all to come we'll do the three minutes we're going to do our 23 agenda items first get the business of the board done completed and maybe some particular lady I don't know that will be at that time and then we can sit here and get

055ready. I figured he's going to midnight that's fine. We might take up late. We'll see how that goes. But there's one that the delegates anybody signs up on the street we encourage them to do so that'll be at the end of anybody. All right. I need a motion. I move that we go into executive session to discuss possible people litigation and to protect good night. Second and my name is Sarah Young. I'm an attorney licensed in the state of Alabama and I certify that the purpose of the motion is legitimate to go into executive session to discuss clipping or anticipated litigation. Um we will probably be in executive session for 45 minutes to an hour possibly. Um we may reconvene if there's anything that the board would like to discuss in open session but it's

056not necessarily anticipated at this time. So all right second. All in favor raise right hand. Any oppos?

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