001e e e it be 5:30 welcome well hang on we'll wait for Mr Neil yeah you started early not really the timer back here shows 30 some seconds minute let's do that calling the meeting to order appropriate noes have been given and the agenda needs to be well hang on let's start over say we're gonna say the Pledge let's say the Pledge okay let's stand for pledge please I pledge alance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and justice for all move to approve the agenda appr second any discussion approval by Neil second by Scott Booth all in favor unanimous thank you we will move into facility work session with Miss Dy at the helm okay so I'm
002gonna start tonight first of all I want to introduce Josh zert from MOA Studios um also Mr Knight will be um joining us in this discussion and Miss Russell um and we'll get started uh the first thing I want to talk to you all about is we batted around the ideas of a possible new building and with that possibility comes turn on oh with that possibility comes um our facilities master plan has to be updated Etc to do that you have to do a p the p is the um program of requirements so there's certain requirements of course you have a certain number of science classrooms you have to have a certain number of labs you have a certain number of students you got to have certain number square footage there may be some ways
003to increase our efficiency for that P when I say that there may be we don't know for sure we won't know for sure until there's official measurements taken of square footage numbers are run Etc one way we can do one way that might increase the efficiency of our square footage is to take one of our buildings and possibly use it as non-academic space we can do that by combining some grade levels that does not mean that this would not happen you know for many years down the road because as if you all remember the timeline that Alisa brought to us there would not even be a new project if approved by by voters if we needed the millage it would not even be I mean we're looking at 2030 or 31 before any of this
004would even be a possibility as far as a restructure of our buildings one of the things I'd like to propose to you all for Alisa and Chris to work on is looking at a restructure of our buildings having Nelson wils be a K1 building we know that transitions are very tough for our kids this eliminates one of those it also makes sense as far as Furniture playground equipment cafet Materia tables there were some great ideas and we can we need to talk about all of them but to me that makes the most logical sense as far as not having to do remodeling um not having to move playground equipment and that seems like oh we'll just move the equipment the thought isov pretty mindboggling so we'd have to purchase and do some things Hackler becomes
005a 2 three and four building once again it's appropriate already as far as as um desk tables playground equipment bathrooms that's something you have to think about too um Pinkston 56 that is developmentally appropriate and this is the one that we need to really have some discussion over we need have discussion over all of them but 78 at the junior high 912 at the high school there has been discussion about 92 being at the high school before um one of the things if that decision is made well I did a little research 33% of our kids at any time in the day anytime of the day are 33% of our ninth graders are at the high school campus at different times during the day first period being the highest uh we have another um and
006I don't remember if it's third or fourth block we got 88 kids or something which is about a third a little under a third of our ninth graders so we got a lot of kids down there already um with the new acceleration suggestions from the Department not even from the Department from the state legislature it makes sense we are going to be moving our kids faster than we have in the past uh students need the opportunity a seventh grader needs the opportunity to take algebra if they're ready um an eighth grader needs the chance to have well our nth nth graders need to have the chance to be AP classes um advanced math classes honors English maybe they're ready for two englishes their sophomore year which is not traditional or their freshman year it's not
007traditional but it is with being proposed if we're to move ninth graders it needs to be very intentional as far as how we take care of their advising needs how we take care of their um advisory classes it would be my view that you would have a ninth grade academy and you would have a group of teachers that each year welcomes ninth graders it doesn't change the kids the advisor in my opinion would not move up necessarily with the kids you would have truly people who are educated and well informed on the need specific needs of those freshmen because our teachers can tell you a freshman and a senior are very different I mean you've got people here who can who can speak to that none of this that I'm presenting or proposing is for
008sure it's an idea uh once we get measurements and I say we Mr not and Alisa will get measurements they'll be able to see what our square footage per student is um y'all can make the final decision uh our guy Berry students could move to the kindergarten building that building would have to have we'd have to move some furniture possibly redo some bathrooms as far as honestly the size of the toilets I'm just going to be honest um some things like that would need to be done however um it makes sense as far as use of space and use of as far as being efficient with employees as well and I'm talking about classified staff we're not looking at nobody having a job or people losing their jobs but through attrition it it could work
009and you could save quite a bit of money um my just my first Figures were over $100,000 in classified staff um this is an idea that's what work sessions are for so what are you thinking does that get us out of gy berry oh no it doesn't okay thank you I got a little lost um as far as gy Berry goes it would become non-academic space and you could keep your offices that are there and then my idea right now just an idea we are looking for a space for bomb squad to work and ngr njrc to practice after school they don't have space you could use gy Berry in the gym in gy Berry and the cafeteria floor in guberry that large area for those two groups and those are Stellar programs I mean
010we are super proud of those programs and this would give them a space for after school like I said just an idea yep like it good idea the main thing is when we think about ninth grade it's making sure that we have the support that they need to be successful whatever that looks like two big things so it keeps it keeps that flow going from Junior High in high school which is constant and that is a safety risk there's no other way you can state that but also I love the idea of the kindergarten and first grade being together that um jump and any of us who have had kids that started in kindergarten and went to first grade here um kindergarten is so much fun I mean the leprechaun are pixon to come you
011know it's just that's just a great fun year and then you come to first grade and you sit at real tables and you're doing really hard work sheets and you've got a very big it just makes sense that you don't have to go to a new building you don't have to find new cafeteria you don't have to find a new library and you see some of the same familiar faces I love that component component almost as much as the knife being in the high school component I'll be honest that is probably as excited as I would be for the high school getting a new facility as many and Miss Lawrence is here and if y'all would like her to speak to the need for that our transitions are very difficult especially for our little guys
012and girls it's you know they build trust with administrators counselors um you know they have some private situations that need support and then they have to do that again A year later build trust with a brand new staff and we do it but it I think about the families that would faces I asked Miss K K and I knew what she was going to say already because Miss Lawrence said the same thing from the year before but I asked Miss K K our principal at Nelson wils I said how long did it take when school started this year how long before first grade was in the groove and she said 9 to 10 weeks now there are that are your more difficult transitions you know generally kids would are right are moving a little faster
013than that but would you agree I would and it just I think you would it's just that consistency that they need at that age I think we could provide that a little bit better I did a little Googling on that also with um there's a buddy program that is really nice with kindergarten in first grade where you've got a Big Brother Big Sister type and it just makes the things so simpler for these little Minds that are are not ready and parents we've all I think we've all been there it's it's difficult and it's one less worry I think that would be a nice a nice move and if possible this is just an idea until we get numbers because the square footage per student it it would make sense in my mind that if
014you have less academic square feet per student your funding amount your possible funding amount from the department or from the state would go up but I could be wrong and Chris has told me a couple times and Josh you may agree you don't know till you run the numbers and if if it doesn't help us I don't want to I don't want to turn the Apple card upside down if we if it's not going to help but it definitely is more efficient for staff um your nth grade you know we have have to be intentional whatever the decision is with our nth grade it is has to be very intentional with a very structured support around those students which they need anyway you know they need that anyway um I do not think moving the
015ninth grade creates the need for a lot more space that's another thing um talking with Miss Russell maybe two classrooms maybe two to four I depends on what you do with some remodeling maybe moving some of the things that are already in underneath that big top area to areas that we could move to programs and folks that we can move to other places for example technology we can move them over to the maintenance area so you have a very nice space there where the technology department is under the big top that space can be remodeled and those wall that's already been remodeled once for those of you that remember the old band room mhm that was there they added walls but those are not real walls right Chris they're not structural jasu there could be
016wide open space so that that would work for njrtc so you're not adding the space for njrotc in a new build you're you can eliminate that spot um another thing your uh counseling center we could look at using the current front offices doing a little remodel doing a little update there and put your counselors there and then replace your main office in a new build so those are some ideas that just saving a little space in a rebuild um technology to maintenance njrc to technology Counseling Center and career coaches I think you can move your career coaches they're just using one classroom right now but that's one you can use for something else um we have a large book room that Miss Shen's very familiar with that is actually a classroom so we're going to
017need to figure out something there but I think that could be considered a classroom space and we can find some storage for her um also School base mental health is using two classrooms I say School base mental health Matt Sutton and Miss hatman are using two classrooms near the gym we can move them to the CBI house which is out back that is why I don't think you need as many classrooms if you move a grade level down and then you do need a special education and it it would be my desire and that's for you all to make the final decision on to have a nice space for our special education students in a new build these are just ideas and we are looking at years from now I just want people if they're
018watching listening teachers who are here this would be years down the road if this is if this [Music] worked so I guess I just would like if you're okay I'd like permission for Mr Knight and Alisa to look at this plan but I need to go ahead I think exploring it's is a wise it's the right move to explore it I mean this is the there's a lot of ideas there for me to even try to think through pros and cons even the questions asked right now um I don't know um you know there's questions pop up hey moveing to kindergarten I like the idea of the Buddy program is it also but is it the kindergarteners have a really easy drop off being a single school um a single grade they're the big kids
019there now suddenly I mean what happens to the kindergarteners when they're not the big kids when there are other big kids and there's a lot more hustle and bustle like I don't know the pros and cons we can certainly delve into some of that um um I've heard some pros and cons about ninth grade to start talking about maybe even having them in one of the Wings right one of those Wings where it's it's not a true separate campus but they've kind of got their separate space perhap I mean there's a lot to explore and I think that into a piece ofart I think what you said about ninth grade is essential you cannot just throw your ninth graders down at the high school you you can't and expect them to be successful um it's
020providing the structure making sure they maybe it is an ACA of course it would be a Freshman Academy but there's a Wing maybe they have ninth grade lunch um with the DCT changes so that's your Career and Technical um the majority of your programs are moving down to where that first level course is 8th and nth grade so by n9th grade A lot of those students are going to be moving into the second level of courses so they're going to have to come to the high school anyway uh safety moving them back and forth I don't love it we're making it work they're also losing class time with the shuttling back and forth and that's probably and I don't want to speak for them we got some high school teachers here that's probably one of
021the biggest complaints I hear is we are missing seven seven to eight minutes sometimes well in disruption of class coming in late sometimes yeah so and I know I know you have a class of nth graders that come down too and it's I mean it's it disrupts class are they getting the work done absolutely our teachers are making it work but because of the classes we're offering it makes sense and we pay those bus drivers correct we do or they're not staff no we pay them it doesn't the number is not as high as You' think it would be it's it's anywhere from 8 to $10,000 we paid a little over five without benefits we paid $5,000 without benefits but that those were numbers from two years ago um and we've gone up MH $3
022$3.50 an hour so could be close to 10,000 so I was calculating that way um this plan's pretty it is efficient is it the best plan I don't know but it definitely is is efficient as far as use of space and providing space for those you know what we call our some of our Premier programs ngrc needs somewhere to practice they're trying to use the baseball comp softball complex the cafeteria um they're outside when they can be gyber would be a space they could do that um bomb squad does great it's bomb shelter over by maintenance but wouldn't it be nice if they had their own heated cooled comfortable space and we could do that at gyber well if you look at the recoup of both of those projects the kids that go into the
023military and the kids that have jobs already for engineering I don't know how you could hide that um and also the fear of losing Naval funding if we do not support the program with a place for them to practice has been brought to my attention several times and they are they're making it work MH they're making it work um this idea you would have one less main principle I would I would recommend that that principal become an assistant principal at the high school campus I would think they would need at least three assistants with the number of students um you would have you know a few less cafeteria a few less d time less a day time custodian I'm looking thinking about guy Barry um your counselor number doesn't change I mean I've done and
024like this is just my first draft of thinking it would take me sitting down with principles and teachers making sure that we've covered all the bases but we have to have a stepping stone we got to start I mean I feel like we need to start something if we don't have a a stone to start on then none of this is going to go in place it's all going to be well guessing like Scott was saying how are we going to really know if we don't start talking speaking are you all okay with Mr Knight and Alisa looking at the P for this organization yes yes yeah okay and then questions this is nothing for sure right we got to look we got to look at you have to look at numbers um if it's
025not going to help us as far as and Chris I'm speaking correctly right it can actually go the opposite way if it hurts us it hurts you you don't want to do that and I think Josh Believe tell me you you guys this is a green forest that this ended up working against them yeah um we've we've looked at that at other districts before and did the research portion and sat down and look at what if we move this grade here what is it do if we have too much square footage in that building and that kind of acts against you and you get reduction of funding because it's based on need um so we've seen it go the other way too and the first step as you mentioned is doing that research and understanding
026often times most things are dictated by that P it is a requirement by the division for minimum square footages for things like this what's happened what I have seen happen in the K12 Market over the course of let's say 60 years hypothetically they weren't always built to requirements and once the division becomes online and started mandating 850 Square ft that's the calibration of minimum square footage for a typical classro kindergarten a th000 square feet sometimes uh structures were at 600 square F feet and they didn't realize they were operating in less square footage the opposite happened where schools were built and there was bigger square footage and now they count that against you moving forward so we've seen it hurt and help us in different ways um getting that research is going to be crucial
027to how you guys calibrate and that's what you're doing you're trying to figure out that calibration of what works best for you and so at greenforce as Chris was saying we see it hurt us in another way they wanted to move some grades around well once you did that you had too much square footage and they wouldn't fund it because they're like oh you have an overage uh we've seen it where you move it here and they don't have enough so it helps you and they the division can justify giving more money or partnering in that capacity makes sense so so this would just be the first step uh I I like the idea I mean you're you're approaching it from a student need instead of a facility need and and what's best for our
028students and academics and then we're making the buildings accommodate the children at this point so I like I like that approach what what is best for our kids you know when we're looking at our kindergarteners and all of those transitions make sense and I think academically we set our children up for more success um and then we address the building needs as we need to the acceleration of your ninth graders really also drives mhm um we're going to have more ninth graders in AP courses we're going to have 10th graders with concurrent credits we're going to have I mean it is it's happening and uh we had a meeting today at ASU Mountain Home talking about acceleration what does it look like for Early College I mean it's it's happening and we we need to
029be ready and I will tell you I think having your ninth graders at the high SCH school does help that um and we've got a lot of kids down there already um that doesn't mean that your ninth grade Athletics would go away or your specific um Junior High type I'm trying to think you got ninth grade Athletics that's probably the biggest one I would hear about a lot of our ninth graders are in the high school band that's why there's such a large percentage at the high school during the first block I think there's so much more opportunity for them too you if if back when my boys were in school if we were allowed to do college courses graduate high school with a two-year diploma you darn right I'd be at their heels making
030them get it done and we have parents that are very aware of what the opportunities need to be and are going to be soon uh they had Rising oh what's it called launching your future at the junior high and they were stopped by a parent who said okay how are you going to get it to guarantee me how are you going guarantee my kid in associates degree she's go to ninth grade I've already read I know what you have to do I know what you need to help me do I mean and it was like we're gonna figure this out and so we started today working on it um because it's important it is and uh it is definitely priority of our governor and of um the folks that are working in Little Rock right
031now I want to come back to you and agree with what Mr smeski just said um about doing what's right for our students um I completely I also think while we need to to look at the PO and we need to plan for or hope to apply for funding and getting funding there is no guarantee of funding so we shouldn't let that dictate and drive us that carrot dangling front of us that possible funding Drive our plan we need to make our plan what's right for this district and for this community and hopefully that's still what's the right answer for the division to partner up with that funding but just the idea of that funding shouldn't drive any big decisions we need to do what's right for us as well because that is not a
032guarantee at all and the education part of it instead of the facilities we we're in the education business not that's right buildings so so what I'm hearing from the board is that we're all on board to allow Chris and Eliza Alisa to move forward yes duly noted on record okay um regardless of how you look at the the ninth grade thing it's a disruption to their day where they walk down where they ride the bus down and and they probably enjoyed walking down today today was nice but when it's 10° they probably really don't um I'm kind of curious as to what it's going to cost at Nelson wils from a facility update in order to accommodate I don't see much kindgarten I'm sorry I don't think we have to do anything because they all
033have bathrooms are [Music] right equipment as kindergarten good be good I mean we'd like to at some point look at the playground equipment at Nelson wils but that's whether we move students there or not some newground equipment at kindergarten but you're saying that could we don't we did not we don't have new but that equipment could move from the kindergarten over if we m I mean tell you we moved some and they they're so concrete and like dve some of it was more destroyed not worth it but like what I've been noticing is like one of the hard things in kindergarten is you know prek had some money to do some playground equipment they wanted to slide well they play in the kindergarten playground well the prek requirements like are you know four or five
034ft and then the kindergart requirements are more like or for the the rules are more like first and second so I don't think that's a problem but if it was prek moving to a kindergarten building it would be right it would be a lot so there would be room for the preschool to move as well we could I have that down as an option either to remain at kindergarten we have lots of time to discuss I mean you could even do some type of different wall there are fire doors there but I don't know that those can be closed all the time um between what would be gyber and the prek there's fire do but that may not that may not Jive and that's okay um we also have F hallway at Nelson wils now
035Mr Pendergrass like you said if we were to move prek to the F hallway at Nelson wils we would want to do some a little work yeah um I would feel like it would be appropriate to do some updating and a little work um but once again there's a couple of options there uh we also have some outside folks using some of our spaces uh for prek which we work with the O Co-op out of Harrison and um I just went blank Ozark opportunities is the other one so we have some ABC and some Head Start in our buildings um we have an ABC classroom right now over at Nelson wils in the F hallway which we did just a little touchup and it worked so and so as far as you know can kindergarten
036has the reputation of being the greatest place on Earth because it's the little guys it's the I know it's great teachers Mr roach has his own reputation that everyone just loves but you would still have that because it would be concentrated in one part of the building that would not change no it would just the location is aligned curriculum they could do a lot of those activities get some good Gams there right we we have always felt that fewer transitions would help and I don't want to make excuses but having a kindergarten teacher next to a first grade teacher at least in the same building knowing what's going on academically it's big um and our kindergarten is fantastic is fantastic they do a fantastic job our first grade our teachers this doesn't have anything to
037do with the work they're doing um and one more time I want reiterate this is not next year this is not at the earliest if all this worked out perfectly with the p 5 to seven years and I'd say closer to seven a lot of those kindergarten haven't been born yet they have not been born well I guess if they were waiting you're right they could but I mean we would not even start I mean 5 to 7 maybe closer to five I mean I'd love to tell you the point is it's down the road it's down the road and I just that's very important for me but if we don't start now it's going to be further down the road it's it's just we got to start okay so we're good with Chris and
038Lisa moving on he'll get with her and they'll get their magic laser measurements measurers out okay magic laser beam measuring what the kindergarten space they'll go classroom to classroom the kindergarten building we're talking about right I think so yeah pretty much all the different buildings and they'll check that the whole C the whole District space bu everything you're real familiar with the big top in high school but we got to we got to meure out El I'm not as familiar but I will be working with Alisa to understand where some of those you know overages are what actual Square footages are versus what state requirements are and then she will take that data and kind of report back in a a narrative form to to tell you what she's and what kind of timeline would
039it take to do this I don't know what she said we have to have something ready to go in October I'm hoping that we can start on it tomorrow okay I said tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomor because then I don't have classes it's true can this go concurrently with planning on replacing big top square footage or does that need to happen before we start looking at replac everything's rolling concurrently it's going to go on concurrently so reorganizing potentially reorganizing the district can also can go along with yes sir new floor plans okay you just may say uh don't reorganize you we're going to you know we don't like that idea anymore and we can NYX that and go back to another but that doesn't change your building making the district more efficient if we can get
040if we can free up a building right and save money I mean there's that seems like a win-win without impeding our students and the learning capabilities I think you're you've got some students that are going to get some cool spaces if they're able to use skyberry and we'll see and of course moving moving gyber is a process there's a lot of gyber that's probably I mean that's a process I mean I mean we'd have to look at you maybe your cafeteria gyber at gy Barry now the kindergarten space you're going to have to do something RC space over there I mean those are things oh that's true they have a smaller gym right about I'm not saying that's what you want to do it's a smaller gym but those decisions are down the road but
041making it more efficient I'd say yeah let's look at that okay all right okay so the second thing is we have I think modus Studios Mr Josh is going to do some discussion with us and then we really need to sit down or we really need to talk about needs versus wants as he begins some schematic planning well thank you for having me back uh it's good to see everybody miss nice to meet you I haven't had a chance to meet you yet um one we're just honored to be back at the table to talk through this when we sit down and start to understand what is the needs what are the wants uh obviously being familiar with the campus as help so again I'm just going to show some imagery um and that's right
042behind you so I apologize uh Jason and Scott that you might have to turn around for a minute um obviously this is taken a little bit back you'll recognize on the left part of the screen that was under construction on that beautiful day some of the my other trips have been rainy uh but this is roughly uh what the campus currently looks like uh of course from the air another view is here just looking kind of at the back and I use these mainly for reference uh tonight to kind of talk about it moving forward um we always want to be cognizant of what our past was this is not every milestone in the district's uh advancement these are some that we just pulled out that we kind of recognize uh 1966 uh of the
043the four to five buildings that was the original buildings underneath the big top uh if you fast forward you start to see The Vocational and tech agry building Fine Arts and Fieldhouse were added roughly 1980 uh 89 to 91 the big top and cafeteria was added uh with a little bit of the Fine Arts addition uh Performance gym and Auditorium added roughly 1991 uh then the expansion to the cafeteria in math wi in 1997 lastly but not least is the library media center to the science building so I bring this up because uh what we do when we start to master plan and design uh a next phase is we just try to acknowledge what we have so that we know what our road map is and how we might want to go forward so
044I show these as just exhibits of kind of how we got to where we are what we've inherited over time this is an aerial view more recently of the campus of course and so tonight my intent is to at you know at best try to throw options out there as a working session what I love about when we start this and we did this a few years ago you start like anything's on the table at this moment we we're open to where do we want to go what do we want to do uh just as in the previous conversation you're trying to ask ourselves what do we want to put in it and so originally what I did did is I just kind of made two diagrams a diagram that there's options and I know
045we spent some time uh previously looking at the option of full demo and renovation in Fes but as uh We've mentioned re more recently there are options within this to what happens if we put a building out front of what would be the Circle Drive uh another option is if we use the space that we have now we have talked about what I have labeled here is to before but it puts a new high school kind of in the back of the existing high school and so there has been reasons why that that did not make a lot of sense uh to put it back there why it would displace fill the plays that are larger U why that might not make some sense um what you're also seeing in the kind of um teal
046color is just that we acknowledge that if you put a building in front you're going to displace parking we know parking does have value you have students that use admin that use it ball games that need it it's crucial so we do acknowledge that if you displace that then we will have to probably come back find ways of putting parking somewhere else these are just random places that might earmark where they would go I would also say that in time if the the I know we keep calling it the circus tent but if the circus tent goes away that opens up place for parking or other facilities at some point as well so I did not highlight that because that's not really our Focus just yet but our thought is is that there's options within
047this option one and I'm just going to show you that I know previously the plane and the Circle Drive was a little bit more sacred of a of a space and that's why we did not pursue that I do acknowledge that if we were to put a building here there's some options do we move the plane do we do something differently it is a key component to the campus and we don't want to quite just say oh well the plane goes away way we we know that the bomber is important an option b might be that that building slides more forward of campus and what does that do when we do that obviously we find ourselves closely connecting to the Performing Art Center to the front of the gymnasium so when you do an option
048like this it has the tendency to displace more parking uh potentially it has the opportunity to create a larger Courtyard and maybe the plane stays as a part of that courtyard um so we kind of understand that that could be an option that we would want to pursue though what I have in the magenta um color is basically uh an idea that this is the rough square footage of what we have currently in the circus tent but stack two levels and the reason I say that is that's going to be one of the key foundations of what a new building will be is we have to solve the cafeteria because it has loading and unloading needs and the cafet ceria is one of those things that nobody wants to look at uh the loading section
049of a cafeteria but we need to be uh you know conscious of the fact that that is something that we're we're thinking of and then lastly I had also put an option because we're brainstorming an option that might load a building along that parking only and maybe it doesn't take up the drive in that front spot maybe we might decide tonight that hey it's more important that we still have that front of the gym access maybe we still want to leave the plane as as it is um so I always want to just throw options out there that that could be a stacked uh uh High School building as well and the reason I felt like option one is the most feasible I think it's been the most current discussion um option one being a
050a building in the front of Campus or in the front of the existing high school so one of the things that we in a working session that I like to do is just try to understand what we have have um the option uh that you're seeing here with the arrow pointing to the large Blue is basically what we currently have under the big top and it's right at 84,000 squ ft of of facility uh right now this could be within um based on labeling and how you're currently using it we currently have 24 classrooms roughly three Labs three sets of restrooms two locker rooms what we've called an old gym uh a space for Roc we have a counseling office the kitchen and cafeteria and student Commons and so that's currently what we're we're hypothetically
051going to be replacing in time is that program square footage um we know that that's kind of what we're trying to build in this new idea or you know where we're going to head for our schematic we know that the Performance gym in locker rooms is a building that is largely untouched it is built at a later phase it has a separation of a wall so we have a firewall between the new and old so we're going to be leaving that alone and not really touching it I just want to give confidence that when the circus tent was to be replaced that building would stay alone we might have to look at you know skinning what happens in this wall that if this goes away what happens to that facade I know that if you
052go up in the top of the circus tent you look back you can see the old facade so we know that that might go away and what does that surface look like but for the most part we're not really changing any of that program it works well we know we want to leave it alone um so we're we're not really touching that uh we know that some of the other buildings that are are affected the library we're going to leave untouched as well so that's an area that that was built later into the progression of your campus uh in this model the library would not be touched um and as uh Miss Dy said earlier there is some creative ways about how we deal with what is I think called the Fine Arts are admin
053right now by putting a building out in front of the new campus it is tradition that you would put Administration close to the front door that's just a basic understanding of where's a principal's office where's a counseling going to go and because that is currently in this building that would move to the new building but it means that we would repurpose this building in much of the suggestions that were made earlier that we have programs under the circus tent currently that might find themselves in here in a light renovation versus having to build all new square footage and we don't want want to do that we don't want to build more than we need we just need to build what we need because it's the best fit for the students so I just bring up
054that this potential renovation which is currently six classrooms three Labs uh front office lounge and restrooms could get repurposed based on what we're uh discussing earlier and then as I said you know we know that there's a potential in the future if we need to be planning for ninth grade what does that really look like we know that you know if you're going to build we need to make sure we've got that square footage accounted for on the campus in some ways and so there is kind of a large question mark in the magenta box of how big are we going to need to build we know that the cafeteria has uh opportunities that need to be brought up to code um when I say that that means when you put this amount of students
055there that cafeteria is probably largely a little bit bigger than what your current cafeteria is uh we know that some of the classrooms currently under the circus tent are not that that Baseline square footage they're not 850t they're give or take 50 here 100 here so we will be held accountable to the P requirements of building when we build new to those new requirements sometimes it's going to be bigger than what we expect but they're basically that the if if I remember some of the classrooms when we measured them were like 680 or 720 square foot we know we have to do 850 as a base minimum so that will help throttle what the the new building can be and so one of the things that I brought back and really the only thing I've
056really brought back from our previous efforts was just this idea when we pulled the teachers and the students the first time around these were things that kind of surfaced and they and I bring these terms back because this is what people wanted at the time the teachers were wanting the students were asking for and I bring that back because it's some of the things that are not you can't really compute them in square footage it's in the features of the building like as light or outdoor connections or outdoor seating uh common areas um centralized special education I I bring these up because as we start to develop a schematic design we're going to try to keep this into our Forefront I don't know what the building looks like we're not really talking tonight about architecture
057from a standpoint of what is the is it brick is it glass is it pitch roof is it flat roof we're really just trying to ask ourselves where's first the location we want to pursue the most in the schematic design that we submit for this application I will say you always have freedom to move it it doesn't mean that we make a decision tonight and we have to stick with it long term but we do want to get our P or our ask correct what are we putting in it because it's harder to move that around you can move the building oddly enough but you can't add to and take away square footage because they tie everything to those square footage um calculations and so tonight what I really wanted to do is just kind
058of give you an idea of the fact that we're starting to think about that and we're trying to ask ourselves what is in the building where is the building and what could be in the building I know in time this will be something that we will want to take obviously Miss dwey to staff and ask questions like okay is that the best fit for you right here where does that need to go what's your adjacency that's what our goal is over the next several months is to develop that with you there'll be a few more working sessions of course where I come back and start to show you a layout that starts to be like this data has been pulled here's what we think's in the building here's where we think the adjacency might be
059the cafeteria might want to go over here but I I am very conscious of the fact that we kind of have no back door to the campus at this location and I think it's we're going to have to be creative with that specifically thinking about loading and unloading for a cafeteria you know where does the milk truck go what does that look like how do we deal with student parking next to traffic flow um and so those are some of the factors that will weigh into our locations um and what do the building start to do as far as that uh goes I think architecture is pretty far off I would say that that's really not so much uh what does it look like yet it's really more about do we have it right based
060on the needs what is our long-term plan and where do we want to head I I don't want to be labor parking I just know it is a factor I would say that we know student parking in this location and athletic parking in this location is a factor that we'll be thinking of we'll be thinking about how the Performing Arts wants to perform when we displace parking uh where's people walking from where do they kind of go to and so I've just labeled these things just that just areas to start to consider and start to think about and I don't need to always be the one talking but I want just to get kind of get your overall feel and taste of what you're seeing as far as location goes if we're if we even
061thinking in the right spot so I'll open it up for questions or thoughts or um things that um I may not know I mean there might be um overall thoughts of you know hey have you ever thought about here or what it go here um I do think that what you're talking about in the amount of square footage it's fair to say that it is a new building in front and it has a presence of creating what is the new front of the School look like it's a substantial size of building and that's why I bring that up I think it it warrants it's not just another little building it could be the new face of what mountain home schools could look like so you're saying one is your preferred plan I think so based
062on the recent conversation one feels right in the sense that um you're putting enough square footage that you would operate in a new uh twostory building in front of Campus um two two always feels a little odd because it would be putting a lot of building in the back of campus but you could easily say Hey you know n9th grade we can't move and that's closer to ninth grade and that might have some value there could be some pros and cons there um but there's enough square footage that it might make sense that two you know two is not the best option because it displaces athletic fields and we might not be able to make up for that would you put the front office in one I think you would I think you want them
063to be the handshake to the public you know where where does somebody come in and you know meet or you know if you're picking up a student you have to check in so I I do think admin kind of wants to come with that you wouldn't want to go through a building to get right that I that's what yeah through me if you turn it on his head option one have you thought about perhaps that being the back of the building right that's the back of the school where the big top is becomes where the bombers at there's a circle right there that's right um the admin spaces while where the current you front office is in the back of that building that you could rearrange that building a little bit but maybe that's where
064students come in you park you you're parking where the big top is you walk right to the gym walk past the gym to get to the to the football field I mean we could turn this thing where the back of the high school is actually the front where ultimately we wind up putting it on where where the big Top's at there's pars there you're coming right in the front and B Boulevard is that's the back where we're doing our cafeteria loading and unloading with trucks or whatever um there there has been one other option that I was a little reluctant to share yet because it it requires a little bit trickier phasing and and there is an option that yes you could consider uh building on each side leaving the road open and planning for
065the future just exactly what you're saying Mr boot that you you're going to eventually potentially open this up and if this building goes away way long term you know what does it mean to go through campus now that might we might say that's a pro and con that you don't want to do you wouldn't want students or people driving through campus but you could consider the fact that you know those things can happen and your front and back are blurred a little bit I wasn't that I wasn't talking about going through campus coming in from the north right we've got a road there um it be expanded a little bit where the paring lot is here yep that's the entrance into the campus um and that's a solid building yeah right where where you don't
066have a fence to jump over or there's not access for for outside folks to you know that's one of the considerations is making the campus safe and limiting access to campus for folks who shouldn't be there so that's a solid building with limited access yeah right I don't know I'm just saying we just yeah I like it but wouldn't that leave dunar kind of hanging you got you'd have I kind of understand what you're saying but that that leaves dunar what if the news basically sitting here entry you know parking entry yeah it's a longer walk to dunar maybe maybe for event there's obviously this going to this park still here you can probably still get into dunar for I mean can you move the entrance of dunar I mean that to me you'd have
067to move your entrance it's a good point right now our current entry to Dumar is on this coin and and you would have to relook at what does that entry piece look like if that was the case um for sure cuz I don't think when you have performances at night you want to walk through the whole high school campus okay I I just what if the option one was tucked in closer to the existing structures and then the big top removed you'd create your back door for your deliveries like if the cafeteria was kind of in that corner um you create your back door um you'd also create a whole lot of parking um and then as much as like and you still retain your dun bar entrance if you tuck it in enough is
068that kind yeah if you tuck it I I don't like the I don't like the idea of the main entrance being in that corner it's a horrible Corner um and we've already got three lanes up across the front front it it's easier to get cars in and out across the front um how far can you check that in how far um well you can kind of see how this form whether we call it rectangle or not it's a fairly large form at two stories and that's basically making the assumption that we're we're building roughly what we're replacing which is around 885,000 square foot um so I think our goal for me was to keep cost down and not to try to go three level always to kind of see the our best opportunity to stay
069within the scale of the campus at two levels um and that's kind of the size so if we start to move that around I don't you know how that works or what does that look like let's let's say we kind of tuck it like this uh then trying to figure out you know what's our accessibility to the the cord to your point you could always relook at okay well maybe you know when we do that then the gymnasium has a different kind of front of house and then is tucked up to a new high school building and you still get Dunbar able to access it the way you're talking about there so I think that's a great suggestion I think it's worth exploring that kind of location and what does that mean so and so
070your cafeteria would be at the rear yeah I I think so I think you would have to I think you would really have to consider where that cafeteria is that the size of that cafeteria let me try to change my uh my size at this so are you thinking moving the jet the bomber yeah in this scenar I think you're going to have to move that to make this work where are we thinking maybe in the front of I mean you've got the rear of dunar or or that little pie you know see where his orange arrow is at M over in the field over there you could put it you could put it in front of the grand stands you could put it in the grass between the um yeah the fence entrance the
071vendors I mean there would you have to have a new gym entrance with um we will definitely need to make sure our egress strategy stays the same and so how we do that uh I think you want to create separation yes I don't think you really want to go through the high school to get to the gym no uh so I would really want to study how that egress is starting to work you know we would if we were thinking that this option starts to work where you come in on this side um I would want to look at my secondary exits things like that and my point was is not even to create a second exit on the gym is if you're parking where say the big top is if the planes here you
072got your circle you know this is this is the entrance into the gym just kind of off the circle we have the entrance off the circle you walk into the gym or you walk into the front office of the high school and then the rest of the campus I think there's ways of of that where you're not having to rearrange an entrance to dunar or an entrance into the into the gym you you can still use the existing entrance hey you're just walking from the west and then turn into the north into the gym mm but you couldn't have your cafeteria back there then right so now the back side would or the front side would be the back side where the semi trunks or milk truck or whatever you want to call it which
073is have a mindset that be in the front of the high school but it doesn't have to be right that could be the back of the school and the front and where his orange arrow is that's where traffic's coming in the C's there you got parking up to the north side of Campus I mean flip the whole thing if it makes more sense yeah there's already a dock at the back of dor mhm Ian it's there there's nothing off bomber Boulevard there to say that needs to be the front of our school for aesthetic reasons or whatever good point off the front you got ball ball fields um across the creek but is that I guess I don't want to that foot print of where the big top is I guess is the way to
074say that is that going to provide enough parking uh that's a really good point I think based on where we're starting to look at I think what I would want to do is start to pull how much parking we're displacing then consider to your point Scott like what what does that really yield do we get a full replacement or is there a creative way to do that where you know maybe some of it's here some of it's in entry sequence maybe we need some parking over here but make sure we don't lose c as far as what we need because I do acknowledge that between the gym and the football you're going to need that parking on a day-to-day level but you're going to need it on game days you can't you can't afford to
075go backwards yeah we need more than we have on football games well the more you tuck the building into the west where the bomber is going to keep the more existing parking or it's going to keep more of the existing parking there for for events um you do have the West Side hey where number two is or that magenta parking up there they always could be expanded if need be well and I know we've got currently some along the street does it mean that you couldn't keep going and some of that you can get really creative with Street side parking that picks up here and there um so there's and that's why I kind of put these in here is that okay what happens if you have a little bit of visitor parking or bus
076parking over here for visitors you know little things like that that I think could could easily happen so but I do like that option that um considering what does this footprint yield and what does it mean to be in that space it helps our separation so dumbar uh we are not having to connect uh it helps being able to think about kind of going into the gym it still provides a building that you can see the size of it now to your point that might mean that this is the admin Corner if if that's the new entrance eventually you know what where does admin want to be if if we kept it on this this side you know what does admin look like on this side so what I would do is if you like
077one then we'll start to come up with a few options with one bring it back with some actual um layouts that would say okay if we did this this is what it could be if we did that this is what it could be after about two or three of these sessions I think we'll have an option that everybody's like hey I like that let's go ahead and submit that that's calibrated based on our square footage needs we think that location is universally the best flow there will be uh part of that as well as just us doing a little bit of a traffic study I think that's a good one uh that triggers the idea of like how many people are coming from the north on a day-to-day basis how many people are used to
078driving this you know is that a concern of ours because again thinking about how they want to kind of go I would really like to understand where you know that that works into play so I think now might be a really good time to Break um to grab some food put your thinking C on I'm not going to adjourn or go into executive session or anything like that so we're going to still stay live if that's and please come get some food and then we'll come back in five minutes and continue our um facilities work session and keep asking questions but I know everybody's probably a little hangry so we'll go get some food and and continue and then we'll have some input from our teachers and see if if you got anything you want
079to add and help us can we can we bring Eddie up here at some point yep and then we'll get Edie good okay hold those holds good idea Jason e e e that right there is the traffic stud I but I'm even thinking coming through that world we got I want to stop I hate to interrupt that great flow but I'd love to hear what you're talking about and I know everybody else would too minut maybe so one minute we'll gather together and um I know you had a good conversation going there we'll repeat it okay good thank you yeah we you know that's what I love seeing you guys are up there talking and looking and teachers teachers I don't want to call you teachers guests come and eat there's plenty there's like sit
080like we're in a theater watching um I I think that sounds nice about workshops uh and when you search a master plan this is the dream session very Cas this is where we everybody's like you know what what have you thought of or what have you dreamt about or hey if if campus could have changed and what does that flow look like and right I thought you brought up a really good point about you know if dunbar's entrance was different and and you only plugged in for a theater or Performing Arts moment what does that look like um you know what does it feel like to be on campus you know if if we did rethink about what's the front face of Campus was it feel like for future growth um that's what Scott was
081bringing up is you know this might be our plan here for the next 5 to 10 but what happens in 50 years you know we really grow to the West is that our goal is to grow to the West is our goal to stay compact um so those are some of the conversations that we were having is just you know what what does 50 years look like if you could if you could you know sit back and say all right you know maybe we get to start to lay that Foundation of what the future is how do we set up the next people for for success in that regard and I was going to bring that back up anything that we were talking about I wasn't trying to have offline if anything starting off hey
082here's the progression of what this High School changed if anything is shown as time goes on we've needed to make changes and additions as we've grown um so yeah you have to think 50 years in the future what's going to happen in 40 years 50 years what if 412 gets four laned across the state and we grow and new industry comes in and we need to add on to the high school if if the front office is where basically where the bomber's at right now and you expand to the West I mean where else would you expand the only spot is to the West if you had to put an addition on you're getting further away from the front office and the campus is growing whereas if maybe you were oriented it where the north
083side is the entry way and you expand to the West front office is still very centrally located if you had to build off to the West um yeah that's what way here but it's front office is here and we want up having to expand out to here you're getting a long way away from front office whereas if this still stays at front office and we wind up building out over here the campus is still I mean front office is still Cally located I don't know if that's a good thing or not I'm just thinking hey down the road where would you expand in the future because there will be future expansions thank Mr Helmer had some so I wanted to you know talking about traffic flow uh you know working for the city for many
084years uh been a police officer we get where we get complaints and is and where parents of kids go to the city to complain about traffic is Butcher and West is Butcher and West Road is at fourway stop and I'm thinking if that's the main entrance coming to the high school and also you have the main entrance going into hler I mean it already gets backed up to the fourway stop and I'm just that would that would cause such a unless happen that would cause uh such a headache for traffic uh being that coming down butcher as our main I'm just thr that out there so it's yeah you might is this but you're here is this yes sir they so they back up there's a four-way stop Y and they back up well past
085the Methodist Church up to that uh yeah so and and you can ask I mean the I've met with the mayor it's been a to try to what can we do can we expand but that's a state highway that's not a City highway so we I've you know looked at putting why can we widen it can we do something but we can't as a city we can't do that also if if I can add to that driving in you've also got to think when when visiting schools when you have different they come off 62 that's the main entrance into town there's already a complaint how do you find a high school if you totally flip it and I'm just throwing out there as far as your traffic flow and also when you look at any
086type of facility you know how the high school is now we have where are buses where buses kids being dropped off on the bus or and where kids coming in because if you're for the future you really want a single point entry you don't want several several points of entry for our kids to come in building as a safety you know I'm sure when new schools are being built that's what they look at I think that was one of the comments that were brought up is that sometimes security is going to be a bigger issue in how we grow our campus how far do we want our students to walk what do we want how how often do we want the public interacting do they stay at one side and so I I think that's
087a good point specifically we were talking around you know what does this site offer you know does it offer a more centralized long-term approach and security is not that big a deal what if this street was no longer used as much and you do have that flow to some of these other spaces is that a pro is that a con right and how you know right now our our high school campus is open to the public any anyone off the street can drive around our campus that's right you can do that without even questioning right right um what if you updated this goes to using spot two mhm you did an update of your main offices because we you know kind of gave it a facelift and you did your new build behind the building
088good point I don't know so there was just a few things that I recall in our previous uh vetting out of two there is some topography Change Is It Rock back there was that an issue there there's some rock um It's relatively flat as it is is that doesn't mean rock is fully negative it just was that the I think Jason had some experience with some rock back there we yeah we had put fiber back there years and years ago and they had to grind for about 3 weeks because it is it's not a little rock it is a very very large shelf so it' be a good foundation for something yeah wouldn't go anywhere okay can I can I ask a question about the big top I I wish I could see it with
089the big top going because we know the big Top's going all right so the big top goes could you some okay so you've got the new building in the shape of a v right there right so the big top Goes Down And basically what you'll have left is the library and um that little section where the fun arts are right excuse me well okay I'm going to have to because I'm I know what I'm saying okay it is kind of an inversion so this is all staying that's going right so can we not put the new building where it comes totally across and somehow connect you almost still have the same shape but we're building around the library and you connect the library in there but the new face it's still a new face up
090here we're just coming across so let's listen if I understand you correctly you're saying that it's basically becomes maybe this you you leave the library so this is similar to our previous approach and just that we found that the square footage needed to accommodate what's under this right it's not makes it go three stories very but can you still not stretch out this way toward the big where the big top is well only because of the logistics of we got to take we got to build new put students in them and then demo oh it's really phing track if you tear it down first you have to know where to put your kids if Fe specifically cafeteria and gym actually more about the cafeteria cuz we could have school so this is all because you
091have to go ABC we can't go a to c that's right the phasing makes it the most challenging I've seen districts or Springville or excuse me our Rogers District they renovated a substantial uh elementary school and they brought in portables for a full year while they're renovating and there's cost to that there's major challenges to that it it's not like you know it's not the worst thing you just have to be willing to go down that road and there's concerns you know that those types of those things happen um but sure I've seen more complex things have to happen to to get it right so it's not without asking I think that's a good question if we had to do that okay I suspect we can find a solution without using temporary buildings um the
092other yes please you guys are here to help it left the bomber where it was though correct it did so can you not make full like what Miss Morgan is saying that pull it out to where about like moving the bomber plane like it fills in that whole circle in that you're not losing any parking but like in the bomber plane area and it doesn't have to go three stories it can still have the footage of two stories and not go in front of denar there yeah if I kind of sketch and I apologize from your Viewpoint you might not be able to see this pink as much but you're not wrong and that there could be some partial move that a building of this size could kind of happen like what you're what you're
093suggesting like reping at that but then taking out some of that area where it up to the library needed right I think our big key is trying to throttle up how much renovation we do what is needed is it a light touch renovation is a you know what does that mean um but but you're not wrong and that space could be developed you could move the plane and start to bomber can be right here too that circle come in the circle doesn't have to the bomber the plane will find its place it'll it'll find itself that's true if not if the Navy doesn't want us to move it they'll take it back it'll be okay not an option either it'll be okay no well I had to have the bomber but it could even be
094at the corner of bomber Boulevard might help move us you never know they might help move it we might call them I mean they call I oh people to move the pl actually move the pl they'll have to they'll do the national Naval Museum in Pensacola owns that PL right so so they kind it's a museum P piece is that I think call they own all of the static displays so they call it a museum piece so they pick what we but I can and cannot doed it's a procedure it's not we can figure we can figure it out Alissa are you saying take I mean demo basically the front office to the library demo that section like the old band Halls Ceramics art you could you could and that's what we tried to do
095last time and but just not pull as high but pull it further out like you're moving you're not leaving the bomber plane so you have more room you could still go wider you could still go wider at the front I mean it just touches it kind of connects the gym to the building to dunar to we talked about having that single entrance even the entrance to Dunbar in the gym and you walk in a single entrance and then you go we talked about that for security reasons is that did that go away it does put all your guests in your high school that's all of our what all your guests walk through the school walk through your school so that's just something to think about that's that's not good no but wait why would they
096walk through they they in part of because they can go straight into your school they go right they go left can you not put doors that lock straight to the school um that's a question no they don't want that how yes a that's the word we need a Lobby a v yes is that what you were thinking yes so there'd be a doors that lock to go to the gym there'd be doors that locked to to go to dunor there' be doors that lock to go to the high school I just don't I think what I didn't know what you were asking but like all our campuses now if you have a waiting area or where the office buzz you in we control it it's not where they can just come in and go where
097they want to go right but then you would be controlling if if there's a performance and dunar you're controlling who comes in if there's a game you're still control because everything else is locked and they come through our security system and you're controlling where they [Music] go it makes this the security system we're talking now about maybe moving over to dunar if we want to or move it here but yes you have a yeah it's Central Terminal so you make so what you're saying is one central location that goes to D or goes toy is that what you're saying or goes into the main I need a white board it's just it's like a it's like a I got you well it's what we talked about and it make while she's drawing can I ask
098a question Josh you push back and demolish part of that building we're adding square footage correct because we are taking down we're we're taking down square footage we already have and so that's square footage we were going to use there's a little bit of redundancy there and and what our ask would be meaning that we were demoing some some pieces um and then we got to build it back does it not have to be fixed to begin with not like that much it's a much more minor scale than like starting over is in the plan to not just like make sure the roof isn't leaking so basically the void between where the magenta color is the pink color is an existing school that void right there if you filled that void and didn't have a
099big Courtyard y right comb everything there like I don't see the need for a big Courtyard so the other TV that's not showing it maybe okay just okay make sense yeah [Music] Jim I do yeah I think I I think I can sketch that option oh then so basically you have okay so you can't access any other of the school no you just got you got a big vesle that stretches from dumb the and only do supposed to be welcome to Mountain Home High School D bars this way G this way all our football championship trophies trophies your state championship [Music] pictur it's a really long best so this is a very crude sketch of your sketch but what you're kind of suggesting is that you know there's an entrance piece and then there's a
100connection that goes to dumbar and a connection that goes to the gym so you have your lobby plus hypothetically some sort of Lobby space and then you have IE the Campus High School so this is not too dissimilar than our previous effort the down the difference is is that you've got an enclosed space going across from entrance to entrance so you're building out square footage some of a downside or one way to look at it is this could if we want to keep cost down and you go two stories I think there's more square footage needs that we would have to come in and say oh there might be more supplemental building that is needed because I think you're going to it's not enough it depends on how you where you want to put all
101that square footage right now that box doesn't quite represent as much as I think we need so we might have to look at it and say okay well I mean let's go down that road well what if the cafeteria was over here cafeteria is over here high school is here here and you change that because the cafeteria still needs to be counted in this in this square footage so that's just not quite enough pardon expensive it just starts to raise the level of cost you've got elevators you've got stair cores and so there is an uptick cost as as you go to three but can you you're still not going can you not go why because that's not going to be there and I know we got to face it in but you can leave
102you can't I am believeing the libr so whole thing you can't we can't I I suggested my idea was okay just demo everything but the cafeteria and the gym and that's what I'm trying do can't do that because of how it's tied together is what I was told the way the roof is okay that's what I'm struggling with why can't we do that can't take part of it I'm I'm not I just my suggestion just from things I heard over the p past the last time we worked on the last time this group worked on this any demol demolition of good space was not well received even if you could demo part of it you your kids would be wearing hard hats to go eat Lun I would love that I would think that was
103fun so that road doesn't make any sense without the big top there so when you think about the road I don't I don't put a lot of consideration into keeping that road there we're already talking about putting up Gates and preventing any through traffic the three Road um around the west side that road makes no sense without the big top there you can take care of that so I mean hey the current Courtyard void um I don't know how many square foots there uh is there any space for maybe a cafeteria that now is going to connect yeah the library and those wings where we have kids aren't walking through the rain or whatever can you that Avid where the courtyard current Courtyard is you know if I use and that way we're not tearing
104down any existing space and we actually making the campus a little more compact which is going to make it a little bit more secure as well too and I I think the cafeteria size is roughly what this little box is right now I think that's roughly the size of what our our future cafeteria looks like so to give you an idea right now our cafeteria in kitchen is is kind of all of this space and so it's kind of an apples to you know oranges size of what just to be thinking about what is what how big is a cafeteria to be how big is the cafeteria for four grade lels so he'd probably move up to closer to 15,000 square foot I think you're operating right now at 11,000 square foot so good question
105so could anything go in that current I think Mr Booth can you show him the area you're talking about for for the courtyard Cent couryard space right here this void what could you do there anything this road you don't even have to think about St across this road it's gone I mean you can put buildings almost adjoining that road doesn't make sense you don't need that pretend that goes away go unless your cafeteria is there and then you got to have and then you need to have deliveries the delivery Road in the back side of the cafeteria perhaps where do you bring your buses in that I don't know so are you adding are you suggesting adding everything on there or have it still come in the front I think this model as he's suggesting
106would still have a a a major piece in the front it just you know are we missing opportunities with these spaces in between um one thing I would say is sometimes that space in between gets really hard you got existing foundations canopies things at different levels I think a contractor might say well that's not ideal I want place to lay down I need place to move equipment um and I'm not saying that every little void can't be built out I I do think there's times that that is appropriate um I just know from my side of the table that's they want as much space and ease as they can make it because it'll help time safety and with a campus that is currently operating the way yours is um where we know students are going
107you know all the way across all the time they're using all of these Avenues they're going to want to I'm not I don't want to put words in their mouths but they're going to want as easy as possible and safe as possible so that they're not interrupting your dayto day so if we could take one second yeah for the audience that's watching this live I know you cannot see anything that he's writing um but we are going to work on that before our next work session and I just wanted to apologize because I've gotten a couple of messages like hey we can't see anything and I thought oh so this PowerPoint is attach to the agenda yes well um I know we can't see the show so what I can do I've been screenshotting as
108we go and what I can do is resend this to you with an exhibit showing those screenshots and we will post that on our we'll post it on the facilities page of our website and to the agenda and to the agenda there go Mary be where do our buses unload in the mornings and pick up in the afternoon um the cafeteria you know where that little bridge over here yes right there okay not the it just goes straight through and go up to the junior H so they come in the cafeteria doors and then they okay that's where we morning and afternoon okay and then they drive to Junior so we're we're looking at Option One and trying to make that Peg fit you know should we talk about option two real quick I mean
109hey suing that that road is not needed there is an elevation there's an increase in elevation as you cross the road into that field a little bit but if you were to use option two space and tuck it up nice and tight to not maybe not that far off but tuck it in real close to the library it's not really expanding the campus that far certainly if you think of the Big Top being gone being maybe parking up there buses turnaround Bus turnar Around up there perhaps I mean is it worth talking about option two because we went start talking about option one pretty quick um option two is certainly simpler with us not trying to fit between the gym and the dun bar and make everything work but do give you that Central entrance
110like we've been that was one of the main things we talked about exactly that was one of the main features is we wanted one Central One entrance do you eliminate your extra entrances once the big tops down though because you would not have that entrance you would have none of those doors at the front the gym doors are locked so D Bar is locked if you park out in the student parking lot you would only have the main office I don't know but it's it'd be the same walk basically you'd have the same entryway I me the plane doesn't move main entrance those kids are making that walk right now Big Top could be parking Park parking that's large that's parking you only have one entrance in the front then I mean you got done
111and you have the gy so is option two it's another building it's separate it's not connected the practice field well that's where I thought it was so kids are going to have to walk I I don't I just don't think that does what we want it to do how many feet of elevation change is that I want to say there was like seven feet overall I I need to go back and double check that but that roadways at least 6 feet higher than floor there is a walk up from the big walk from the library to the Second Story and go down there you go where you go out actually well if it wasn't Solid Rock yeah I agree with you I get I do get nervous only but Rock's not bad if we can
112bear on it it just depends on how the cut and fill and some of those things and so knowing that that could be an option I mean an easy answer would be to get a Geotech have them do some borings and just test that and look at the loadbearing capabilities of it if that was an option for sure where's the front door on option same front door you just give a little facelift y you would still make this your front campus and maybe yeah to your point you relook at how that looks or what does that maybe update the sign you know yeah I wouldn't change your your the one thing I get nervous about and admittedly is when we displace parking we've already paid for that once and then it's not one of those
113things you get funding for is you don't really get funny we parking and those are the silent Killers to projects where oh we're building another Park parking lot we're building other things I get nervous about that because it's just an uptick so there are some pros and cons about if we build it here you know what does it look like to ad part you can't pull that any closer to the building right like you can't go over that road well I mean I think you bring up a good point you what if that road didn't exist like let's pretend like it didn't can we pretend like it doesn't exist you can pull it a lot way I that could be help our safety feature is if the road goes away we do you just figured
114that out we get a yeah I mean let's say hypothetically what if it just around the back changed I was told there's Engineers that can come and help you figure out how to how to switch that if there was a front entrance right off a rodeo here that came down the hill in the front of the camp there there front of the campus there's and now you've got all this acreage for parking for your baseball softball complex that has none then you've got once the big top is gone more you've got an insane amount of parking football game know football basketball and then redesign this current front area for maybe bus loading unloading Food Service access um and then limit those limit the access to the building you still have all your dunar access youd
115still have all your baseball sof complex or I mean main gy basketball if there was an entrance here I if I'm uh a contractor I like option two a lot because I can build it without interrupting you you know I can get going on that I can have lay down space I have more space than I need the con might be if we hit rock or the con might be thinking about you know the campus and you know what are the adjacencies and and elevation you know how do deal with those so there might be some logistical things but I think all of those can be overcome two is nice because I don't have to shut down any of the school I don't have to worry about I can I can do that before I
116have to uh disrupt you and then I'm not wasting money on new parking lots that I already had paid for or new you know address that we already have I don't have to move the airplane there's this some of those things that are kind of collateral costs that kind of will will interrupt the process big problem with that is putting three entrance you're coming down you talking about making a road down right through this right here and that would put three campuses of traffic on Rodeo and West Road which that's the problem unless unless we can talk the state out of that section of the highway to do something talk about people having trouble finding the school trying to find an entry way off a rodeo and come through that but I mean I like
117it I like the idea of orienting the front either to the North or to the West um but I mean the state did a traffic study at Rodeo West Road right here where they got just a stop sign there's not enough TR anything right there at that intersection wasn't enough traffic only twice a day first off there wasn't enough remember that yeah 40 minutes a day 20 in the morning and 20 at night day Mountain Home not Conway we are yes Community Center will have the city's first roundabout good going to be a test who to th okay so on option two I'm still confused that will be attached to the buildings the current buildings it'd be really close I'm not necessarily saying they're detached yet but I I think to your point that road
118goes away and the new building gets basically integrated into it um because one of the big complaints that you hear is we've got all these little buildings and so now we're going to add one more a big one but we're going to add one more we will and have I to me that unless we can attach it and make it like an inversion of what your option one is it's just the other I don't know that it accomplishes the goals we want to be careful about our strategy of attaching because when you start to attach you group your Square footages together and it might trigger some code related items like fire suppression then you have to go through and Chase that forever you have to have strategies around fire separation between building to building this
119is the downfall in all Renovations and growth so I think we just want to make sure we we're sound in those decisions so um obviously the new building would would have a fire suppression system um anything over 12,000 square foot in new construction is has to have a suppression system so it' be a long walk for current students where the current student parking is over there so you'd have to have parking on on the North side but think about the kids that are already parking and they're walking to the back how I mean they're walking right now Mr Engel not as far to your room but like to miss jury's room or to I mean from the parking lot that's long way well you said it earlier long term doesn't mean that there's not parking
120here or here and therefore some of that parking might actually find itself into you know this is the new face of the something I just thought of that road has an e on it does it which one one does not exist it's not even a road fiber you tell me that it's across across that's right [Music] we it can't have structure in it doesn't have to be a road know one of those things that can beov Skywalk and does that have something to do with the hospital it was it was in there I I know it was in there is because it's significant popped it and then ran it down to the nursing home so it's pretty significant fiber it's not it's not one of ours it's no it's the real deal I think there's
121I think there's and that might be one of the strategies they've had to be able to provide um aerial apparatus around the the campus for The Bigs and stuff goodness and like I said I I didn't tonight have any anticipation that we'd Come Away with a full-on plan I think I think our if yeah we'd be really good but I think that's what works really well is we're kind of talking about options and as we go back and test these options we can start to narrow down you know what's feasible what's not feasible give you some more pros and cons what I like is that from what I understand obviously the existing gymnasium and the library are sacred we need to consider those are more sacred uh pieces of the puzzle what's probably not sacred
122is is quite location yet it could be either or if we can solve some of these traffic flow pedestrian uh in security concerns um I like that we're open to options I think that really helps us um helps us understand kind of where your head's at I think what we've also established is that the entry to dunar into the gym are very important we got to solve how we deal with that from a you know what does the public come in where do they go what does that mean um those kinds of things lots of flow it's a lot is it a preference to leave space that is still considered not under the big top like at least Still Standing maybe a little touchup but leave it I'm talking about where the main offices are
123Etc if it's functional space I think we need to the max extent preserve it right I mean I I I don't as everybody agree with that so would that that covers from where the what's where the art class that's the language arts that and then you come down admin offices none of that's under the big none of that's kind of that little L shape is what we're talking about with a little 11 that space can stay standing and just get renovated and when we say renovated I'm not I mean just updated reinvented I mean we do have some remod a little remodel but not sprued up I know we were going to hear from teachers and stuff can can we ask if they have yes please take some input we are up here spitballing do
124y'all y'all are going to be the ones in the space do y'all have any ideas on what we've been saying and thoughts on option one option two making it fit around where the the the plane is in the existing Courtyard or I do you all have any input for us you hearing things you like or don't like oh that's not going to work but you're not going to get fired speak now come on lay on us not tonight anyway just compact whatever we can do to tighten it Compact and be efficient with our space um we were talking we don't need that courtyard to be that big with the bomber in it I mean that space can be utilized to right just parking do you prefer the front of the back which I think the
125back is going to I think we've heard some things in the back that may be a no go but I mean we talk about you're probably going to hit the same kind of ground in the front as you're going to hit in the back it I mean is Arkansas right so we're probably to find on either side and I don't know what you can do with an easement I don't I would what I'll probably end up doing is doing some more research onto this road and what we can and can't get away with I need to understand when it was built what was on what was installed you know what was our approach um to that and if it could be rerouted I know we're not looking visually but my like even if we took
126our building and made it sort of like the circle like if you using her idea pulling it f out op one and making it like the front kind of circular not like straight lines like it I mean maybe that's how the concept is drawn yeah it's right now it's just kind of a bubble diag but you could use this design and making it two stories but still be able to pull it out and connect those and using that front more and if if we're keeping the the Fine Arts been building I I mean if we I know connecting it is is hard but our kids have to walk in the rain like if there's a way that we can connect some of these buildings that it's they're not in the weather and coming in drenched
127it would be amazing so instead of squaring it off I you can't really see it they almost using the existing walkway front of that V I have a have a curve front to it B you here here central offices and then it's like a cirle it's almost Circle wise that that line could almost Define that front of the building come out instead of going back come project out to the front instead of going correct you use that space to the east side of front office and have maybe that that circular front basically sits over the same footprint of where the circle is right now you'd still have to move the plane but we're gonna have to deal with that yeah is that enough but is that a big enough footprint Josh well the one thing
128I'm having a hard time visualizing is that we've got in in the diagram that's on your screen we still have a lot of building to make up in this meaning that yes that's a circulation piece and that could be an entry along this Edge but that's a lot of square footage that's going to kind of hurt because it's not classroom space it's it's a circulation Corridor it it connects and there's value to it don't get me wrong it's just getting that right figuring out how big that is and then coming up with the roughly 80,000 square foot of academic space that is needed I'm trying to visualize you know what what does that really look like is this all now academic space you know the form is just kind of following you know things that
129are adjacent right the the football field or the adjacent you know parallel to you weren't talking about it that far to the east were you Miss Molly you were thinking tucked in more me why can't you okay can can you kind of erase that yeah okay let's watch this look at that is that's that's right there it's amazing to watch okay come from the corner the the front corner of the gym okay so this is our entry curve yeah go well no go all the way to the front corner that's the middle right there go right there cut AC cross come toward dunar no not there come to the other corner of dunar oh you're far back right there uhuh could you do how would that fill up and make our space so I think
130that square footage is is very very similar to what we would need the the then now question becomes how do we want to enter into the facility and that might mean something let me change colors here that you know you're you're coming into the facility and then you still have connections so you're staying indoors you're staying um so you still can't make a little hallway vegetable not it do have to be huge I'm thinking that's maybe here or that can be I mean where I was going all the way across and you actually enter just like here if you come in this door we've got a door straight into the high school a door to the left to dunar and a door to the right right to yeah you still do that same entrance you
131just do it out here but you're saying there oh I I think I now yes you're this is the fordor then you come in and then you got all that space clear I don't know yeah I I now I'm following you now a little bit more because I've just been traditionally thinking that's my entry point and that's my entry I do know now but now you pull it completely all out and that compacts it like the teachers were asking that definitely makes and it fills it in we just have to move the plane I got you but do you have to remod you remodel your entrances we would have to yeah and specifically on dunar because this so much is front of house and then I think if I recall you know the the seatings
132like this and this is stage you would have to really think about how do we operate that or how do how does that facility work on the gym side your entrance I believe is into your bathrooms right and to a stairwell mhm is that right that's what I recall it's in this corner yeah I am trying to also put my my thought would be that yeah you could do Corridor around each of it and you you'll you really connect all of it that's yeah um it just turns into a lot of circulation space yeah not saying it's wrong it just I it just it kind of solves multiple buildings M it's still gives you and it gives you that Central axis I guess that's become a mantra here is this one access point well and
133I do think that that is very important because you have so much public going to those two programs that was of the part of the reasoning for the original design and removing those structures was it yeah how do I get into them in number one right now how do I get into Dum and how do I get into the gym I have to go into the building and then it's just separate there's like a they're not connected and it's not connected financially I don't think you're moving entrance of D I don't think you might be able to move the entrance of the gymnasium to the back but in in all reality you're probably not moving either of those entrances I think what I had in my head it it it really wasn't that hard it's
134I think it's think there's enough for accomodate the building okay because it would have to take the lobbies is what you're saying okay you don't have enough space so you still couldn't complete you know requirements they're tough okay so but youd go so you have that front and if you went all the way you filled up that whole space with building you can't do that thick line from the say the front door of the gymn NOP right where the front entrance is and straight down to the entrance to dunar to dunar if that was the front of your building that doesn't give us enough score it doesn't so I was just trying to scoot it up and you I guess you uh I've got too many hallways so if you scoot it up now you
135come in the front and you're you'd have a hallway all the way around your building at the end of the day but bookshelves be a lot of room for displaying all the trophies yes absolutely yes but I'll I'll kind of go down this road for a minute I mean you're not wrong in the idea that whatever this program on this side of the corridor like if this is your front of your campus now and and we know we have to renovate some of this right we start to stack yes this kind of blurs the line of where we were a few years ago but this becomes your entrance in your vestibule or your lobby and then your circulation quarter could take you one you go down that Hall and it's to the gym you go
136down this Hall and it's to dunar this program becomes question mark what is that is that the new cafeteria the front office yeah it could be it could be ways to solve some of that you know no nothing says that the cafeteria has to have the same stereotype as it is right now it's in the back of campus and we don't celebrate it the cafeteria could be a great community space so that could change and yeah you're loading an unloading could be over here and we can beautify the campus and do things where you don't feel like you're looking at the back of that but like that could be a way to solve the cafeteria in the circulation and then our academic space is trying to be here there's some collateral damage of renovation and
137that but you're not you're not far off from thinking that that's could be an option that could be explored and then it stays a tight compact campus and I was going to ask even just where the front office is that eastern part of the L on the Fine Arts building is there is there any classroom space there where where your office is Mr Goodman's offices the front I mean that that Eastern rectangle the L part there's nothing but office space there is that right admin space there's classrooms in that that little square off on the East there is a classroom there on they're on the they're up here no sir there's classrooms yes [Music] sir right here yeah and a loung Teachers Lounge and SRO you move just exping all the if that went away
138right hey we're going to put a new admin space sorry okay that's right and Mr Booth I've got you have a map too you can look at take with you to look at okay that'll help you kind of see what's actually there as far as classrooms and and I would say that in that model that we painted that picture a minute ago you you would have to go vertical to accomplish what you want from square footage footage standpoint I would be very apprehensive of trying to add vertical square footage over existing you you really want to wipe that slate and go you don't want to try to penetrate it and stack above it what I was thinking is this section went away right yeah I I can see putting admin in temporary buildings while we
139build this so you could get rid of if you were to get rid of this space you may lose isn't there there's a lounge a teacher no there's couple classrooms there's two classrooms okay but now we have a nice square area to work with without trying to without wasting this space because it gets really tight right to try to work in this space if you get rid of this this one limited amount my understanding there's water leakage and smells like mold and that kind of stuff we're going to have to do work on this space anyway if this minimal where to go away it makes this a lot easier to build in and you can even use this space up here true false yes no there there's things here that I think admin can sit
140in temporary trailers during the construction process trailers we're not we're not disrupting classrooms well I like it that BEC comes to the cafeteria or activity room if that becomes a cafeteria then there are events where it's just the Mountain Home Education Foundation might do some fundraisers and you would just have an entrance right there I mean that's pretty cool know how challenging it was to get people to visit the old cafeteria the last time we could it enough to get well you you could use I'm thinking about the athletic Hall of Honor I mean there are things that are held in the cafeteria now would be upfront and Center could really be a user friendly there's something to be said about having say your more public spaces up front that's absolutely design had cafeteria Library
141front center yes um so that when they did come in those public spaces those are made public very easily and then and there's nothing to say that Center section has to be enclosed and circulate airra space right it could be covered walkway but we still have a central entrance where we could set up metal detectors if that's what we wanted to okay it's like that could be your lobby I like that okay but it does mean taking down space and that's where everybody's got to get behind that we have a plan that I mean you have a we have a Jos remember we have an old plan Library doesn't go down we do we do takes down that office that because that was one of the few classrooms so that was a plan at one
142point it was and Jos helped me because it was years AG yeah the thought was that when you when you went back there and you connected the roofs and did the remodel the library to make it attached not only did it have a horrible hallway for the students but it was either cheaper or the same around the same to just demolish it and that's how we got there yeah yeah the the hard part was it was just easier to wipe the Slate clean than try to deal with renovation because we needed a stack no matter what the library at the time the hard part about the library was in our history of the campus it wasn't built that long ago but it was it's small and it was kind of occupying space that it was
143needed for the cafeteria loading and unloading so it didn't make sense to try to repurpose it in the previous model so there were some challenges of when we weighed it out um let alone the vertical challenges of grade and so um in trying to think through that and remember kind of our history of it that's just kind of where that came from it was really about like is the juice worth the squeeze if we if we do this you know what's sacred about the library the new library might need to be bigger and it wants to be in the front of the building versus that current library was kind of in the back it's always kind of been in the back and there's a little bit of frustration I think that oh well library is
144usually the first space you see when you walk in and that's why in our old model we had it kind of front and center we walk in you'd have admin to the right library to the left and then cafeteria in that public space and then academic space so this option uh is interesting to start to think about and explore what I wouldn't want is we want to try to make it as efficient as possible that's a lot of ground from entrance to dumbar in the gym to make up so we want we want to figure out how to do that in a way in a space that you know if you're going to a game are you wanting your public to go through that Lobby in that long Corridor it's easy to go into dumbar
145because that might be you turn in and go to the left pretty easily um the Gym's kind of a challenge and I'm I'm not against still exploring uh some thoughts be behind Mr Boo reinking the gym entrance could be to the north um in the future with the circus tent gone and that could turn into more public parking I I still think there could be some way that the gym could still have a prominent entry to the north doesn't mean the whole campus has a prominent entry but the gym might need that you know you could really kind of combine the two thoughts and make it work so that was kind of my original thought was if if the north side is the main entrance you've got the library right at the front If This
146Were become cafeteria space you build into here you've still got central office Library cafeteria right to the front and now you're building into the rest of this space where the back side so once again we right kind back to where we that's how these things go and but that goes back to Ed telling us about traffic right I mean guys it's that is a deal it is and if you and if if you're at Hackler it is a deal and up at this office it is a deal um um City we've had City police out there we've had State I don't even know this year they brought multiple police officers it's it's it's kind of a deal it's it's a it's a problem so and it's so I just I just for it but if
147the gyms just open that door I mean that that's kind of cool you have the parking and you go run into the gym just for the public for games games games students during the day still come through this way they can do it parent your parent drop off would be at the back is that what you're thinking because cuz your front entrance well you're you're saying your front's on your North Side no I'm saying the front still stays where it is this this front you just you do have a second entrance for basketball games that's not that's not an issue that I mean that makes perfect sense we just have a pretty backside you're going to have to do something to the you said anyway when you tear it down exactly this facade is going
148to be have to be addressed and so to your point you know this is new facade that potentially could be new facade um and you're you're dressing that up and it doesn't mean that it would look bad like that could be storefront the reason that storefront would be North facing glass and it's indirect lighting and you could make that look great looking into a cafeteria over here or academic space so like I'm I'm confident that we can get the architecture to work out if if we got the adjacencies and the square footage is yeah I mean I I like the challenge I kind of like how that's yeah makes it oh it's a challeng it is [Music] that is that enough space that footprint um I will need to start testing it as I start
149to lay out these these 24 classrooms and labs and start to I think it's a few more than 24 Clos 322 when I counted I'm at I'm at 31 but some of those are laps so yeah so I think as I get you know these things added in here and start to look at where they would fit U the one of the only reasons I like that the cafeteria might be over here is just that loading and unloading I wouldn't I want to limit how much traffic flow is in here from a big box truck standpoint you know what does that mean and you know are they paying attention once deliveries happen what it sounds do when they back up smells you know if your prevailing winds are coming from West you know I kind
150of don't want that to blow into the rest of the campus I want to think about you know we all have been behind a cafeteria it smells like soured milk at times and so there's just things that go along with it so with that plan we would still we would need new main offices and new counseling spaces counselor's offices and and you know that that could find itself like right there you know that if this is your kind of if that's an entrance or you could find yourself you know building that out to if that's your entrance because if we take that part down M that's where we were I was thinking counselors yeah and career coaches so that would need Miss Russell is your SRO do you move him to the back or is
151he up there right now okay so SRO there's some offices we need to talk about because that does does add a little bit with the counseling center and that's important yes absolutely I think we kind of have an option under option one that is interesting I think can morph into a functional piece I think under option two if we can learn if that road has easements there could be an option option two so I think my challenge would be go back and test both of them a little bit come back with some layouts and I think I've got enough of your pros and cons of what is a value that I can we can test it for sure is there anything that was not expressed as far as a need or want speak now or
152forever hold your peace I will tell you I have a strong feeling I'm just going to tell you I have a strong feeling about a nice educ special education space um that's a need to me um um oh definitely ground floor that's um been I think it's important and right now we don't have a very good space and won't we won't it require a safe room yes all of this is new construction after IBC 2018 requires safe areas uh within the building and so it'll be based on your occupant load um um so we'll start to study the 32 classrooms at 30 students per plus faculty you know if it's 1,200 people um you know what does that capacity look like and then design around that that does that I don't want to call it
153FEMA because FEMA is a proprietary but it is a safe area does that gem that activity JY does that count as far as number of people it does it's it's killing me on another project right now because I could argue that you'll never have the two things occupied like you will never have and what that wouldn't even have bleachers well and that might help because uh if you're not allowing people to sit in there in that capacity that's used for practice only PE archery uh it carries a different occupant load okay so that will help it's not assembly it would be specific yeah when it's assembly occupant load it it triggers I know some smaller schools that have gotten yeah but it can be integrated into your 100% classrooms we don't know what to say
154for him until that's right know it's a saf right now I'm designed and we're under construction with a seventh and eighth grade building at White County Central which is kind of by Jud Sony and north of Cersei and three or four of the classrooms are all safe area so it's like choir room GT room um the requirements are sink restroom U they have a harder lid reinforced walls uh in this case we did them out of CMU block and reinforc them and then have steel beams going across with a thickened deck so you can integrate that into it absolutely you got a lot of work ahead of you we should probably maybe try to that's okay teachers any needs yes any more needs from our teachers i' love to hear any more that you might
155have I would I would argue that I think we have work to do as well too if if if history is any teacher right we can come up with a fantastic plan but if we can't get the community behind it and say this is what we want to spend our tax dollars on and this is the plan that we want to invest in we're wasting our time and our money right so I'm going to put out there I'm going to try to talk to as many people as we can and say what what can we get behind I think we've hit the major wickets which is the needs and reducing the wants or putting the wants off to a different campus some other unused spaces keep the existing spaces um but you know I would
156encourage us all teachers and everybody let's talk to let's talk to the stakeholders let's talk to our constituents to say Hey What Can you get behind we this is still two and a half years away before the ask and so Stewie you mentioned the facilities page what's that on our website uhuh um and it was actually a suggestion I don't remember somebody suggested that um to have a web on our web page you can go to the facility section and we can't bring it up I guess right now but um we have the facilities master plan we've got each of the buildings laid out um the facili reports from the last like I started every board we did that we just added those so every board meeting those are directly linked um and then we'll
157go ahead and add the notes from tonight can so that's a good source for True information there it is absolutely can there be a comment or so we just question form we can do a form a form would be great if we can do a comment here yes yeah that's great I've been watching um Gentry U school district is currently in a millage campaign and they did a splash page where it directed like these meeting minutes or the q&as or and it it's fairly looks fairly easy for them they're able to monitor it what's frequent questions and I I I feel like that's probably one of those things that is worth you know considering as we evolve this discussion how do they interact you know how can they interact anonymously how do they interact specifically
158you know so this is a much better way than on social media I mean we all loves social media but that's not where you out a plan so visit our facilities page and get the true information that's where the truth lies and that's factual also I want to show on um the Schoolboard page Schoolboard members page we did add um one of the reasons that the emails are not as easy to find is because of some cyber security uh we were asked basically to take them down however we added there's a t so each board member um you can contact we added that this week it will go to a um to the web the contact it goes to Miss Crawford she will then be able to send it out and this was considered safe
159by our technology department good for right now maybe add I believe there may be a bill out there right now to add the at least the board members direct emails soon but the technology department did ask us to do it this putting our mhbombers.com email address out there as a cyber concern cyber concern of fishing some fishing spam so we're just trying to be respectful of that right now and um this this will get information to you all any further anything I would like to thank definitely you Josh for being here and the teachers for taking a long night out I appreciate your input and I'd like to recognize Mr Brad Butler a candidate for school board thank you for taking your time to come here Chris Folton and Chris Knight thank you Eddie um
160thank you for the food Roberto made those awesome Junior High cafeteria Junior High cafeteria those were really good chicken ranch Buffalo something burritos I'd like to take a couple home but uh anything else thank you ma'am I appreciate it thank you thank you thanks for all your hard work oh absolutely we're getting started I'm enjoying it you're going to enjoy it it's the dream sessions that kind of get and conjure up ideas and so I I appreciate everybody participating thank you Mr fton when are yall going to have the first public invite for people to come in and talk to yall about this well they're welcome at every board meeting that's the first time the input part is hard for right now because as you see this took two hours almost three so until we
161kind of get a little more ideas meet to the to the Bone I think I don't know but I I I would hope that if somebody was here watched the live stream found how to contact to get their idea or their input to us that it can be done just like that you know ask we're all available every one of us well I know I understand that but I I would like for people especially who complained last time about how this went down to be in here it should not just be one I should not be representing the entirety of the public please stress that we want input right oh sure now's anybody's welcome to always come to our meetings I mean speaking you know Miss stey has walked in every so of whing going
162out the community we're making ourselves as available as we can make ourselves so please encourage input and I believe everybody here is encouraging input absolutely I just want to see personally as a citizen more people coming to these meetings and participating not waiting till the end not waiting until the end not sitting on Facebook not on public your little public websites that you can control come here State what you want if you don't agree with it that's fine but I should not be the only member of the public that is not a member of this organization or who has been hired to work for you guys sitting here it's really embarrassing I think for me for this community we've had this debate what this is going to be round three since I've lived in this
163community and I'm the only person that's attending this stuff one one suggestion I would have we we experienced us at valet Springs we had a kind of a low um engagement with the public and there a person like yourself created a task force it started with two or three and then that spread and multipli so creating task force to just you know voices of Mountain Home it can be called whatever you want uh I find that that momentum and then it helps give a concentrated voice to that too it's not just chaos who comes who doesn't so it might be a way to suggest you know finding a small task force like a task force is being created feel free to engage you have to be careful what you invite of course like it gets
164a little overwhelming but what we found in our second uh ask when we uh asked for the millage campaign is that voice was able to control it uh they were able to help filter it they were Advocate not only for the project but for like the the right information that was being spread uh we also found that it was retired teachers that really said hey I want to raise my hand and re-engage and so sometimes it might require some of that work but if there's a little bit of start you might find that that could help well I know the groups will form again oh yeah they're forming but I'm I'm asking I am begging the public to get in here and participate don't sit on Facebook and do it as Mr Josh was just
165talking I was thinking about the retired Teachers Association I like hey can we can we engage with them they were very Co very supportive and Cooperative Cooperative but starting now two and a half years two years nine months as we're starting to make these decisions so all right anything I love you guys we do thank you being here as represent someone has to be here oh my gosh if I wasn't here y'all be meeting oh we would have all kinds of things motion to okay a thank you all everybody thank you thank you