0012025 was you asked her if she was going to pull the bus up that would be authorizing to pull the bus if she believed if she didn't think you were joking if she believed when you said are you going to pull the bus up you minut it no sir that would be authorizing her to pull the bus up no sir I would have based on what I'm trying to submit and the statements that we have from our volunteer coaches and students that's been serving man Co try to argue with you Mr youed answer that's you told the board earlier that coach hick and Botham approves your routine but you're not suggesting the board that he's okay with students driving the bus are you nobody okay with did I hear you say that the there are
002other times when you let keys in the bus and kids have access to the bus with keys they do at any time that's one of the places leave the keys after we the actually have the text message you answer the question that's enough that's it all right questions from the board I have a question just for time reference what time was theu at experience atation was asked why are youings out so early I a pree at have traffic and of our that do you have a personal set of keys or is there just one set of keys for the bus there's two sets of bus keys and so you're saying it's District policy to leave the keys readily available in the bus unlocked I can show you the I'd like to see it who's it
003from director actually picture you got it on your phone I'll look at it on your phone yes sir the picture that was submitted in my P where's that I'll take that picture in the bus or is where you're putting it at the district admin the bus trans dep made the window so when you go to the office office lit the window SE right so you got a bus key so that's where you pick them up unless it's bus at the end of the day leave the the bus take the bus back to it stay and the up there the sometimes so the KE get everybody access to theys know that's why about dings situ also for record there has been times where other people have pulled the bus up for two three two assistant the
004okay of gotta any other questions I do have one question I do have one question oh it's so loud sorry um so um my question is to you all of this have transpired this is seems like this is one incident um after just like looking back at this incident is anything that you would have did differently in this situation u i I was not can you speak into the mic so they can hear you please I was not I was not aware just speak up okay speak I was I was not aware of what actually happened until I saw the video in the district office on Wednesday so I'm going until Wednesday we play that Friday say in office at 10 Saturday suay Okay coach Larry let me can I stop you for one second
005I just because I want to just I do anything differently I would tried to recruit 11 assist volunte coach I would well now that this is transparent you can see on this I've tried to recruit help so assistant coaches those volunteer assistant coaches at times on the last I would drive and then I would go out and get the bus or they would go 10 I would go get the bus and they would watch the kids and then we had to lock the locker room because it was some things that Happ so if I could go back and do it again I would have been more uh I want say nice but I would have been more hey I need you here today type all right thank you very much then answer that question only
006asked for help we were told again that's this we're just focusing on the events of I hear we hear what you're saying yes all right uh do you have a closing statement or closing um are you are you I'm not I just wanted to read just one like our student the one we have that in our packet we have that we we can we've read okay I have a question coach coach since this incident has happened would you ever give the keys to the players again no ma'am okay I have an evaluation uh that I do want to add to that package that evaluation rated me is excellent for supervision of the kids and I have that evaluation the same uh evaluation was audio recorded last year so I haven't had any issues this been
007a blessing to be a Wai 11 years to leave and the cult thank you coach I I don't think any of that's in doubt let's closeing yeah let's go ahead and do final statements if we can please thank you for your time attention this evening in different era now without dismissal so we're no longer under that law this is a question of termination of the contract all you need is terminate the contract standard not as high we certainly presented sufficient evidence to you you heard some back and for Miss Camel about whether or not he directed the students to drive the bus I don't think that really matters he created the situations where multiple teenagers were on a bus unsupervised he didn't know what was going to happen from there that is bad enough judg
008that warrants termination of contract it simply makes it worse he did ask the student to pull the bus up you saw the video it again when you go to Executive session if you like few things that you did not see in the video he says to the student are you going to pull the bus up she says no he doesn't say just kidding that was a joke don't really do that don't let anybody else do that he doesn't warn the student stent keys and say you may only turn the car on nobody may move the bus doesn't say he leaves her with are you going to pull the bus up from that the student understood he wants the bus moved up that's why on the bus all the students are telling the one who drove
009the bus he said bring it up because he was she was left with that impression he wanted the bus moved up so that just makes our situation worse what really matters here is he gave and I I like Miss Campbell's statement that driving is an attractive nuisance if you have an attractive nuisance the law is you have to take reasonable steps to prevent children from accessing the attractive nuisance if you have a swimming pool on your property you build a fence around it so don't come to the pool unsupervised otherwise you can face liability you have a playround you build a fence around a control access to make sure the children are supervised if you have a bus you don't give the kids the keys so they can access the attractive nuisance it is telling
010in some of the initial statements I that oh we weren't told that students couldn't do this well there was one student on the video who was exceptionally clear she said only teachers who had permission can move the bus she understood it's not just any teacher only teachers who are allowed and certainly students can't move the bus she was crystal clear on that so Mr Larry's confusion about I think again supports termination now at the end of the packet that we gave you this is from a training you see the last page you see a sign sheet from training Mr Larry signs it we included this because you see page 16 coaching responsibilities provide Pi one number Transportation then the next page coaching performance number two provides proper supervision security of locker rooms and practice areas
011number five provides supervision and control on bus trips so there was training is students on buses need to be supervised certainly giving them ke to the bus without any supervision vience now even though we pass teach dismissal you still have options on the recommendation that we've used all along you can you can V to uphold the recommendation you can deny the where you can modify theend prep for your pres motions on those three things made but I would submit to you despite Mr Larry's record despite the video of his involved in community along with other adults this decision is bad enough Wars termination of his employ employment God forbid that they hit one of those students who were walking in and around the bus they hit the cars that were in and around the bus
012adults that were walking around the bus when they were moving it you know we normally have immunity from from Buss and things like value of our insurance but I think Mr Larry's actions put put us at risk beyond our insurance because someone like Miss cable Happ to know does car accident like Campell in her might well arue that Co lar was authorized Act onf of the district Deli that he created when he gave a bunch of teenagers the keys to the bus so whatever damage existed beyond our insurance the district should be responsible for another reason why this is strong enough misconduct we need to make sure that the staff coaching staff High School staff they one of the district those cannot unsupervised all of us with the keys thank there are when people are
013make even parents teachers coaches principls don't the wi decision sometimes you don't theion are stress and you have time liation as was explained to you by the coach now the student who stated that she was aware that no one should drive that indicates to me that if she had that knowledge those students probably had the same knowledge because they were probably trained by the school district in some meeting some training some policy some procedure that they were not supposed to drive and schoa it's really no different from a a student or or a teenager going and taking their parents car without permission you usually know that you're not supposed to take a vehicle without permission in terms of deliberate indifference not not only do I do carre I do a lot of prisoner cases and
014deliberate indiff is one of the legal criterias for whether prisoners are treated fairely so deliberate indifference means that it it has some willfulness that associated with being deliberately indifferent and I don't believe that there set of effects here that shows that U the coach was willfully indifferent to harm that could have been caused by a student drive and I just ask you to uh show some compassion and show some mercy and not deprive a person of their livelihood who is so young and have just started out in their career and made decision thank you all right thank you very much all right we'll move into executive session now thank you