001okay it is 10:08 um and we are reconvening the public meeting 8.2 we're going to move on to 8.3 discussion consideration to approve teacher contract language for Sy 2526 Dr Mahorn sorry just give me one second so what you have are lots of different uh contracts but they all have basically the same wording the conversation that I'm hoping you all will have uh today about this will be about the liquidated damages so each contract has a clean version that has liquidated damages and another version that has no liquidated damages so it would be um up to you all as a board whether you want to keep what we have for liquidated damages right now if you want to mend it at all or if you want to completely take liquidated damages out we're ready to
002do what whatever you all decide as a board okay Mr Kenyan thank you um remind me right now it's 2500 it is is the liquidated images it is and that is the higher amount of I think is that the maximum amount or is that the higher amount that most of our peer districts are using yes that is most of our peer districts are doing the 2500 I have not um come across a district that's doing more than 2500 okay what about less uh there were two districts that we're doing 1500 okay and I mean it could be anywhere in between it could all right um personally I as much as I said in the past I support teachers I want them to remain in the classroom all year long liquidated damages I think is is
003needed um maybe not the 2500 maybe we can consider as a board reducing that and possibly even talk about discussing right now we have four criteria correct that somebody could fall into three uh health reasons spouse gets um transferred or promotion okay um you know maybe we can have a conversation about whether we need more exceptions when somebody breaks their contract and leaves but I think it's a good conversation to have um I know teacher contracts are going to be going out pretty soon hopefully and so that's why the rushes we need to get these we need to find something here so I don't want to hold this up but I do think it's still necessary that we have them and uh but I want to hear from the rest of the board and I
004was just going to say if everybody just kind of wants to give their initial thoughts and then we'll have you know a more open discussion if that's okay mm um so my my initial thoughts are that I am not in favor of liquidated damages I don't know that they did what the intention was it didn't prevent teachers from leaving even though they had to pay out the money um in terms of if if we needed to keep them for some reason um looking at some sort of pro rating potentially you know if a teacher leaves on September first and they pay $2,500 or they leave on May 1 they still have to pay $2,500 but theyve fulfilled most of their contract at that point I don't know that that feels like it's doing the thing
005the same thing either like it feels like the teacher who stays longer is getting penalized for actually fulfilling more of their contract at that point so um I don't like them in general but if we if we're going with it I would like the idea of discussing a pro rating of some kind uh based on the amount of time they fulfilled within the contract um and potentially reducing I also this came up in a previous meeting I think but um the way that you the board is now responsible for approving or not proving the liquidated damages but we don't always have all of the information so I don't always necessarily feel comfortable making that decision so we would either need to be fully informed of why someone is leaving or that decision should be moved
006to someone who is fully informed um so that it isn't just you know we get a list with the name and we don't really know anything else and then we're expected to make that call um so those are my initial thoughts Mr Sani uh I agree with a lot of what you said uh so this one of the things I struggled with on voting I was Voting with liquidated damages right because it's a contract and they they they signed it and so that was my biggest hang up was like they agreed to it when they originally signed it and so that was like part of my issue with not waving them I did mention also during one of the boards of like the pro rating thing I I I I I would support that like
007if we go with it being a pro rated cuz like you said it's not fair for somebody that is there for a day um CU we're going have to get a a sub I mean it's not fair to us at the same time CU we call it a contract but if there's nothing really protecting us and how's it a contract that's part of my hangup but if we want to look at PR rating it I I would support that okay um you know I really I really struggle with the liquidated damages because um you know I don't think it was effective right we had more teachers resign than ever before we were up to 20 um at this time last year versus four when there were no liquidated damages so I don't think it was
008it didn't achieve what we were hoping to achieve the other thing that I want the board to consider is that when teachers leave they don't get their performance pay so they get their performance pay um I think I think you said 20% in June or no no excuse me 20% in December 40% in June and then 40% the following August so you know teachers that leave in October they're losing $5,000 they're already losing money and then if they leave before the end of the year because it's 5,000 correct total total total okay up yeah it could it could be more sometimes just depending on how much is in the the business office can can uh talk about if we have a a huge classroom site fund the last approved amount was 5,000 but it can
009come back to the board and maybe be 6,000 but right now it's fine so if they if they resign at any point during the year they're only getting 20% of their performance paid because they're getting it in December that's if they stay through December so you know if they leave at any point or they just decide you know which I kind of have a hard time with they just decide at the end of the year to go work somewhere else you know if they resign on May 23rd they don't they don't get even that June performance paid correct right if they resign anytime before the end of their contract right so even if they don't sign their contract right they decide they're going to go to a different District that makes more money they're still
010losing out on 80% no they would still because they did their whole year they'd still get that check because they did their whole year I'm almost I'm almost positive yes they did their whole year yeah guess I don't think can you can you come to the mic I don't think there's a mic anymore yeah there's they do receive the June and the August pay um as long as they fulfilled their contract okay so if they go work for a different District if they stay till May 23rd this year but don't sign a contract for next year they still get the June and August payment they do okay good they fulfilled their contract okay and so we're paying them do you do you pay them then in May for all that extra money that the they
011still get the June and August payment oh okay so they are still consider active like in the payroll system until that so we don't close them out until basically mid August and just to repeat what you said to make sure everybody heard it if a teacher would leave in February and they got their performance payment in December they have to pay that back correct okay just so that because you were walking y I just want to make sure everybody heard that part so they would have to pay that back plus their $2500 to get out of their contract so yes okay thank you yes so you know to kind of sum up um you know with Miss what with Mr Kenyan said I don't want to hold up teacher contracts tonight I do not want
012to do that that you know um I'm not really comfortable moving forward with 2500 because I do think that there already are like builtin consequences for teachers not fulfilling their contract um so I would like to see if we could agree to a lesser amount because I do think there is the buil-in you know perform $5,000 is a lot of money would you be okay with like the higher number at first and then dropping it as they go through like the months so you're just trying to do you're not being very like neoa I I I I think $2,500 is a lot of money and we charged people that last year in like May and April you know I just I don't feel comfortable doing that I think 25 that's so you're saying $7500 that's
013a lot and only teachers have to do this like not not administrators you know administrators leave they don't have to pay they get all their vacation time so it's not 75 so if you come and you only work for a month you're not paying back 7500 because you didn't get that performance check yet if you're a first year teacher but if you worked last year if you worked last year and then years you already filled that year out you're starting a new year now so no so you're not paying it back but she's saying that you're leaving it on the table essentially you know like you sign your you start the year thinking I'm gonna make $57,000 but 7,000 or 5,000 of it is performance pay if you don't fulfill your contract you're paying $2,500
014to get out of it and you're leaving that $5,000 on the table that you thought you were going to make so it is still a hit you that was in your plan you were going to make that well your plan was to stay in work for the whole year too you're not wrong just are isn't the performance pay from the previous year like don't teachers submit their goals and and they're earning and they're getting paid for for the they do it on they do it ongoing it's ongoing but they have to complete their you know goals and stuff to get the performance pace so they're really completing it for the following year but they are getting paid in that year so anybody finishes their contract that year even if they go to a different District
015doesn't matter like what the goals they said were for next year they're still getting their performance paid for that year can I so what if during out we lower the liquidated damages amount to begin with and add in the Pro rating so you are still expected to fulfill your contract there is a penalty for not fulfilling a contract however if you if you leave on September 1st you're going to pay more than a teacher who stays till April 15th because they have fulfilled more of their contract there's still a penalty it is just pro-rated um I feel like that something that I could support because it kind of hits all of the bases um it's not overly penalizing people we're not charging people in May what somebody in September had to pay um and we
016don't have to be the highest district around in in the in the liquidated damages amount so that's that's me trying to one thing you did say earlier that I I totally agree with is I think we mentioned that it it should be HR that makes that decision because you're they're after we set the parameters like they're the ones that have all the detail I don't think should be coming to the board because we just don't have the person personal details of that stuff and sometimes we shouldn't know it I just think it needs to be really clear because that you know and thank you for coming back to that because I kind of forgot to mention is that I think the way that it's set up now is it's written as it's written currently is
017it's the the board s discretion but the HR is providing a recommendation and so I feel like it kind of taints it being our sole discretion um and so uh I do think we need to be very specific and you know the question about honoring the contract is like if they get a promotion you know I think there's a lot of what does that mean exactly and you know is that okay for somebody to not fulfill their contract certainly like illness you know you know their spouse got a job that you know is out of their control you know those kinds of things I think are very typical but I think we need to you know be specific in the criteria and you know before we continue the conversation just because we're going to potentially
018be changing a significant part of the language if we allow HR to make the decision like does it need to be reviewed by legal again before we you know pass a con you know issue contract tonight so I I think we might have to do I think if we agree on everything I think we might have to approve it at this on Monday or whatever if we go Monday so just it can be Rewritten well if if it's not decided tonight and the board wants to give direction then we could have Clyde work with Dr mohorn on language and if we do have a meeting next week we could bring that back and then we could still make the March 15th right we yeah we just would have to approve the language first like we're
019doing tonight and then approve the issuance of the contracts just the order well I just mean tonight if if they give us Direction on then we'll change it and yeah I just don't want to delay I I'm just asking I'm just asking Mr Dangerfield if you if you could help us you know if we're changing not just the number now right now we're changing who's going to make the determination of of applying our are not applying liquidated damages and potentially the criteria because it's not written in the contract the criteria is not in the contract is that something that you think you know should review be reviewed by legal before we do that since you know we're not just changing a number at this point yes if you'll make sure I understand exactly I what
020you want it to look like I think so yeah if the board can come to a consensus on a clear Direction and then he can work on that language then we bring the language back to you so I I would say yes Mr zman I think that I agree we just need to make I just need to make sure I understand exactly what you're trying to accomplish okay so I'm sorry go sorry so I'm I'm okay with if we reduce it say that $1,500 amount that the other couple districts are doing and then prating it um the question is prating it how is that going to be by month is that going to be by day um I I was thinking month um M maybe you what were your thoughts on that since you kind
021of brought it up um I I mean in an ideal world you could do it by day because if you leave on October 1st that's less time in than if you leave on October 28th you know like and so to make it as fair and just as possible you by the number of days in the school year and you worked this many days that is a percentage of the school year that is the percentage that you have to pay back that would be an easy one to calculate yeah yeah I mean I feel like that's the easiest and most like everybody knows exactly what it will be then if you leave on this day it's this percentage of the school year that would be easy to to write yeah can do that so I I'm
022okay with that um so we're saying start at 1500 prated by the day figure out the language have HR look at it yeah and that's to give HR Direction my my thought is is to give HR direction to make the decision whether the liquidated damage is a play or not and then I would say just some clarity to what is written in here as far as what what are those situations or what is language like you said moving or and maybe it should be a policy and not in the contract that part was in policy isn't it currently a policy it is yeah it's not in the contract correct that mean would we be able to no I think it's the opposite Mr Dangerfield I think it's I think it's only in our contract I
023don't think it's in policy the conditions aren't in the contract what's that oh yeah that's true that's true but the conditions the criteria whatever you want to call it are is not in the contract that's in the in a policy okay so I think you know we could make a motion I mean I think we're going to have to table it right now but I think we could make a motion if we're going to bring it back at a meeting we could bring the policy back too so that we're doing it all at the same time yes we can make a motion table with instructions to them yeah you can make a motion to do what we just talking about the pro rated the lower number you can do that I just have a couple
024of other things that are like housekeeping things in the contract that aren't I and I just want to say like I'm okay moving forward with what we've discussed but um there's a signing bonus that's listed and I think you know we I was thinking we were going to get to it in the study session and we didn't because it is a budget consideration and I you know want to be the first one to say I want to give teachers a signing bonus like I don't want there to be any question of that but I think as a board we have to discuss the budget implication and are we going to to do that um and so I don't know if we want to dis you know either we can discuss it now or couple agenda
025items because it's part of the contract yeah I I I'm okay with it right now I mean we're we're looking at I mean unless Administration comes with some other ideas I mean that's that's a significant thing that staff look at when they're they're coming to look for a new job a signing bonus and I don't want to our ability to hire if we find good candidates and that's something that could get them in the district I think that that I I I just don't know if we want to so Stephanie or Dr mohorn can you so the signing bonus just remind us what the signing bonus me has meant in Liberty what what are the implications or well I can tell you what it's meant in the past changes changed because of what legislation did
026to us this year so what it's meant in the past is the $5,000 if you return your contract within the first five business days because all school districts are competing to get contracts out early well now legislation changed and you cannot get them out before March 15th so now the purpose of a signing bonus would be different because no one can send them out at different times or send them out any earlier that's the purpose that's been in the past to get people to sign within that first 5 days and get them locked in because we want to get our staff now n n of the districts none of us can send them out anytime before that so if you were wanting to do a signing bonus it would be truly just a bonus to
027give them a bonus it wouldn't be to really try to get our contracts back fast and it was 500 right not 5,000 oh gosh it was 500 did I say 5,000 no it was not 5,000 it used to be 500 no before the legislation changed that you know districts were just kind of trying to game the system to try to secure their teachers and make sure the teachers had the reassurance so you had a lot of sign bonuses and now in essence the playing field has almost been equaled a little bit because now you can't put out the contracts till March 15th but um so okay so $500 within the first five days in Li five business yeah it's really it's really for our current employees it's we're not offering them to other people correct
028no it is for our current employees only okay so it's you know it's almost I see it as like a thank you right thank you for continuing um is that standard practice at the districts around us it is and especially when when there was Esser money so Esser money plays into this as well thank is why this was done MH so you know in the budget interest form it's about $80,000 is what it was calculated so if you think about that that's you know more than a teacher salary I'm just again I'm not saying we shouldn't do it I'm just saying we're going to have to cut somewhere else you know and I just want us to be fiscally responsible and just have this conversation even though it's difficult I would just hate for our
029teachers to be oh sorry can I make one other point that our teachers with the 4-day school week actually get almost 30 days to sign their contracts where other districts are 15 business days um but with our 4day it does extend that so that $500 signing bonus is another incentive to try and get them to sign in that earlier window instead of taking that full 30 days to sign and again if that's a direction for us to look into like vice president Zimmerman is looking at then we have some time to look at the budget implications and bring that to the board even on even on Monday if that was to be included in the in the contract because I think the 80,000 was about right I if I remember from the list that's what
030it was what were you say sorry I would just hate for our first decision as a board to cut money would we take the money out of the teacher's hand it that's not going to sit well with me me neither I mean we've already seen you know people are upset about instruction coming down in the district and and I that would play into that right it would further draw down so um I think it's a good idea just to look at it but don't I I personally right now I can't support it okay yeah I mean I'm just you know we're going to have to cut in a different area so I just yeah um and then the the non-con continuing teacher contract it has um like a signing bonus that's blank um do they
031get a signing bonus that was just overlooked that was just overlooked um it was supposed to be it was supposed to be $500 okay okay so we need to correct that we need it was just okay so if we does somebody want to take a stab at the motion to provide Direction but then make sure it's clear for me to table it cuz we're not we make I mean we could just table it with the direction right you just have to be understanding what the direction is but it doesn't have to be a motion I thought that that we thought that it needed to be reviewed by legal because we're not just changing a number so Mr Dangerfield what do you think do they do they just give the direction yeah they've done it and
032we can we'll bring it back to you the next so do they need to make a motion we still need to make a motion to table just table you way you need to table it right so I make a motion that we table 8.3 second okay we have a motion in a second um Mr Kenyan I Miss Schmid hi Mr C hi I'm also and I will'll show that 4 Z vice president Zimmerman uh let me just interrupt so Dr mohorn Mr Dangerfield do you guys have what you need is there any yeah I think so when is do we know when the next Bo well they're they're going to talk about it there's probably a board meeting next week so we could get these things finalized for employees so okay we're going to move
033on to 8.4 which is discussion consideration to approve contract and work agreement language of notice of appointments for Sy 2526 Dr Mahorn uh vice president Zimmerman members of the board this is the language for all of the other positions that are not teaching positions this one I can tell you the only changes were dates we didn't change because they don't have liquidated damages or anything so if you look at the comparisons there were just dates that were changed on all of these are there any questions from the board okay I have a couple questions um in the administrator contract it states that the board policy um will dictate how much vacation time each administrator gets um are all administrators um 12-month employees they are including APS they are and coordinator you need one with an
034administrator contract okay um and then in the SLP contract in section M do8 at the end it says psychologist where it should say SLP you said M M8 ah gotcha make that correction um the at will contracts um it says they only have two days to sign is that is that accurate is that what we want is that typical Mia is answering do you have your micro oh you don't have the mic you got the mic yes support staff get or the at will employees get two days to sign okay um in the administrator classified um contract and I assume it oh it's in the certified as well um it says that we will pay membership dues but again that was a discussion of a cost savings so you know again I apologize that we
035haven't had the discussion yet because we just ran out of time but you know I feel like now we kind of have to have the discussion at least it's hard because we haven't had the whole budget discussion but if we're not going to offer to pay for membership dues then I don't feel like we can approve the contract language as that's written so I don't know if we want to discuss that what everybody's feeling is about the membership dues um I would be in support of cutting that from the the contract if we're looking at cost saing it seems like an easy lift um it's great to be the in the membership you know have the memberships but they're not required I would be okay with moving that as a as a cost savings if
036it's possible that we don't have to do that in the future because we somehow have extra money that comes from somewhere maybe it's something we could offer up again but it doesn't need necessarily be in the contract as contractive language uh let me ask Dr mohorn and Malia how many classified administrator positions do we have classified administrator it's in the just so you know it's in the certified administrator contracto oh you said certified administrator it's both oh okay I thought I heard classified okay scratch that Mia I I I'm sorry I thought I heard classified I mean are there certain organizations that we need to belong to I just I don't know that much about it I just noticed that it was in the contract you know is there concerns with us not paying for
037certain memberships for administrators you know off the top of my head I don't know how many I think about Arizona School administrators for some of our principles but I don't know how many of our principles honestly are are members of it to be quite honest I'm not even sure how many of them utilize that provision I would have to check but that's a common one for like principles is the Arizona School administrators um the classified ones I'd have to see just depending on the position but how many utilize that provision so that might be something again when it comes up in budget that maybe maybe that is we remove that but again we can find out how how many memberships are utilized maybe I'm totally underplaying it I but it just doesn't seem like there's
038a lot of Administrators who are how did you come to the budget savings about how much memberships were the memberships that were just included on there didn't include these for administrators there were other things from cabinet and district office but not for the principles per se but some of those uh were different memberships or even our district being a member of different organizations or lobbying organizations and that might even be a low-end number as well on some of those memberships too we tried to have a very conservative number so it could be even a lot higher as we really dig in I don't think we had any principls left to help us um brce is not that I blame them Mr n is here though Mr namsky put is the soul just putting you on
039the spot Mr ninski are there any do you know the principal or principal's memberships of members of Asa I mean do you know I mean I've seen them in the vouchers for sure um I've seen the principles belonging to the administrator in the vouchers I can only speak for myself if I have it I don't use it okay I don't want to ruin it for my other six principles but I don't use it and have gone without it before okay that's fair yeah so do you know what the cost is for membership Mr nsky sorry do you know what the cost is for membership I do I do not okay I do not I yeah I don't maybe maybe a couple thousand dollars I don't know I'm thinking back it would it's rated I think
040I believe it's prated based on salary so I want to say it's in the neighborhood of $450 to $550 that brings B okay thank you just curious my professional memberships are not nearly that expensive no so you know if that's something we're going to cut then I think we need to remove it from the language I think so okay um the other thing um you know I noticed um that in the psychologist in the SLP contracts there was like kind of just a provision about you know please you know honor your contract like you know we need a suitable replacement things like that um and it wasn't listed in the like administrator classified or administrative certified or the principal or the assistant superintendent so I just wonder if that's something you know again we don't
041we're not holding any teeth to it um becauseit yeah tell me the paragraph you're looking at exactly I'd have to pull it up give me one second you mean to add that to the other that similar language to other contracts M um so like in the SLP contract it's M8 M8 so Dr MN do we do our other contracts have language like that they do not they don't they do not and the psychologist contract it's also made it's the same and yeah we'd have to change that wording but if the board directs that's that there's language like that we could put in the other contracts yeah I mean we could do the same and bring it back potentially next week you know if we have that meeting to again if the board directs gives us
042some direction on what you have in mind we can add that language that just emphasizes what you're talking about can can I ask a clarify question yeah are you all asking to add it to just all contracts all of the contracts yeah I just I guess you know my question was why is it in some and not in others if I'm giving you an honest answer is because this is always been the contracts and this has been the language except for the liquidated damages that Liberty has had but it certainly doesn't mean you just because we've done it that way doesn't mean we have to continue doing it that way the last sentence in the paragraph I'm reading the psychologist one but I assuming the SLP one is the same it says a psychologist who
043resigns contrary to this policy shall be deemed to have committed an unprofessional act and shall be reported for unprofessional conduct to the appropriate licensing agency is that part of why it's included because they're licensed diff like the psychologists and the slps would have licensing um and so that is part of it that's I'm just trying to come up with a reason why it would have been included for those two jobs but not others um it could be because because for example a classified administrator doesn't have a license right so to have it in there I mean it wouldn't connect a certified administrator has a license but a classified administrator doesn't have a license okay that's okay I was just you know I was just looking at the different contracts um before we move on just
044the the principal has that same membership dues I didn't mention it I Oh I thought you didn't mention it so I just because it's certified administr certified just kind of there's a separate principle one and I assume the assistant superintendent has it too but I don't have it in my notes for sure so okay um so I I think we can pass this one right I I think we we need to take the membership oh the membership but that one is just omitting something I think we could put that in the motion can put it in the motion that that would be pretty clean I I think that's that's clean doable do you want I'll make the motion okay I motion that we approve um contract and work agreement language of notice of a appointments
045for Sy 2526 with the ex um provision that in the administrator classified administrative certified principal and assistant superintendent we remove the clause about paying for uh membership dues you think I'm remember what I said or uh administrator classified administrative certified principal and assistant superintendent contracts and that the language okay can you read me what you have okay the language of paying for membership dues is removed sure okay we have a moment motion do we have a second I second okay we have a motion in a second I'll call for the vote Mr Kenyan I Miss Schmidt I Mr C I I'm also and I will show that approved four to zero okay we're going to go ahead and move on to 8.5 discussion consideration to approve assurances of principal and teacher contracts for sy25 26
046Dr Mahorn so this is um what we do every year it is the specific names and salaries uh for renewal for just our head principles and our teachers and our teachers are including right now um our reading interventionists and our instructional coaches that are currently in those positions unless they have resigned anybody that's resigned of course is not on here but they are listed as a teacher contract teacher contract until the board correct uh you know has our budget discussions and the district brings us you know and we we have the discussions to balance the budget that they have a place in the district um just we need to you know have the budget discussions before we can issue specific contracts and the salaries reflected in here are on the teacher salary schedule for everyone
047because there's a different salary schedule for RIS and instructional coaches and you know I just think um you know there's a lot of budget discussions that need to be had before we can approve other contracts but I think think you know to run a school we need teachers and we need a principal um and so I think my question is and I apologize that I skipped I will absolutely come back to other people to talk um but without approving the contract language for the teachers can we issue the contracts not yet okay but here's my question though Mr Dangerfield can can't they approve the names though you know is that what you're asking can they approve so even though even though the contracts may not be finalized till next week is offer this is just
048appr yes that's what I mean they could approve the names tonight if we push this off we have to so we can we can approve the list of names tonight yes then on Monday potentially we have our next meeting we can approve the new language and the contract and then everything will be set to go because you'll be all ready because everything is is already there yes yes I did I just Mr D I just want to be clear that you feel like it's okay for us to approve the name this is not an offer this is just identifying the people that will be contract when they receive I I think we maybe should change the language in the motion like a recommendation to issue um let me think about it would it be a
049big issue if we just move this to the same time we if we're have another meeting next week it should be before the 15th like we can just approve this at the same time we approve the language on the contracts we we certain to worry about anything we certainly could moving to the next he he was just saying Could It Be Moved if we have that meeting okay so if somebody wants to make a motion to table or is it just going to be so make a motion to the table list until next meeting the agenda item I make a motion to table assurances of principal and teacher contracts for 20 school year 2026 uh at for until the next meeting second okay we have a motion in a second I'll call for the vote
050Mr Kenyan I miss Schmid I Mr s i I'm also an i we'll show that approved 4 Z move on to 8.6 discussion consideration to provide superintendent Direction on budget priorities okay pleas Dr Monroe uh vice president Z members of the board this is a time now that uh we had some time with Ken Hicks a little earlier where the budget can direct myself and staff as or the where the board can uh direct us as far as budget priorities that the board members feel as we go throughout the budget planning and bring that back to the board um priorities that the board has to see that the board would like to see as we recommend reductions or recommend other things just what the prioritization is um and so I will turn it over to
051you guys for a discussion and you guys can give us some direction motion I kind of felt we already kind of gave some direction about not touching kids as much as possible the instruction as much as possible and kind of you know in that last meeting I thought we had already kind of given some Direction um I guess I'm not sure what we're really looking for in this okay could we uh pull up the PowerPoint from the study session where it talks about the FY 26 budget reduction ideas from the work study from the work study the blue one yep so I think that the reason for this was one you know if we didn't finish our discussion from the work session that this gives us an opportunity but we didn't really talk about you
052know the administration put together some ideas um and uh you know I think we need to discuss if we agree with those ideas um and also you know what's currently being proposed uh you know that was sent to us in an update was 2.6 and we need to get to 3.6 so I still think there are some other considerations that we're going to have to make but I think we should start with this list and maybe specifically the one that was provided in the board update that kind of breaks it down a little bit more specifically about you know what are what are we comfortable with up here what are we you know not comfortable uh what we'd like to see to continue unfortunately the cuts because it you know we don't have a balanced
053budget even with this so good so I didn't make like specific kind of made a list of stuff I wanted them to Target first okay all right so some stuff I have is like reduce the district and admin Administration first right uh I want to make sure protecting the classrooms and the teachers so when we're looking at stuff keep that in mind protect the current class sies I don't want make moves and make the classes any bigger um and then student safety and attendance I I don't think we should those be the our priorities for me good okay sorry that's okay Mr Kenyan did you have some thoughts yeah I mean I it's never easy when you're at this point and you're talking about you know not filling positions or cutting positions um yeah that's
054the SL I'm looking at so you know each each position has some obviously some really good points and and they they they bring so much to our campuses um you know it's hard to say which one is better over the other because I think they all have their unique values but it's a you know at this point I think I I agree with board members foron that um we start from the district office we work our way in we try not to we minimize I don't know that we're not going to impact all these are going to impact the kids um instructions in some way so but we got to minimize that that impact so I know the permanent guest teacher that that's been a really big one um I've been a proponent of keeping
055that one I don't know if there's an option to keep that one um but I I would like to see that one stay I know that guest te are used in so many just go get up and go positions and fill classrooms and everything but uh yeah I'm at I guess that's just my thoughts is is really my direction would be just to minimize the children's instruction time and definitely safety safety our kids at school better be safe so sorry want to go ahead um I agree I think we need to start at the district level we need to look at Administration um because as was pointed out earlier by vice president uh Zimmerman you know we need teachers and we need principls and the other things are great and they make the schools better
056but at the end of the day we have in the classroom and we have to have a principal that oversees the school um and I mean reading through these lists and like thinking about losing psychologists and counselors and reading interventionist it's it's awful um and I would hope that we could find a way around it I don't know that we can unfortunately like we are looking at a lot of money need to save um so starting at that higher level at the district level at the admin level do we need you know I know one of the things that's like not replacing the communication director right because I'm we can find another way around that um but we it's just sorry it like hurts my heart a bit to talk about getting rid of those
057people in schools um because as we saw earlier like the counselors those are the people that can make a huge impact in our students lives so thinking about not replacing them um is is really challenging but we have to have a teacher in the classroom and and at the end of the day that's what we have to have so we have to keep that um couple of thoughts that I had um is you know just kind of going back to what I had talked about ear earlier with board policy is that we need to have like a process and how we're going to evaluate these things I'm not comfortable just saying well we have all these open positions we're just not going to fill them to me that doesn't really evaluate the you know what
058we actually need in the district it's almost like in my opinion kind of taking an easy way out well these already people aren't coming back because then it's like okay three counselors okay how are you going to redistribute the counselor across the district we can't just say well the people's counselors that resigned they're not going to have them you know same thing with the psychologist or the reading interventionist I don't feel like that's an appropriate way I think we have to determine what our priorities are and then figure out how we're going to make the budget fit into our priorities um and you know I really think that we need some stakeholder input I think for us to sit up here without our teachers and our principal and our community and our parents you know
059this is why usually budget discussions start happening in December and January because yeah we're we're up against a time crunch you know we need to issue contracts and we need to do all these things but we have to do this and I would really like to see us do it the right way um and to really be thoughtful and not just oh we don't have that position because you still have to think about well how are you going to redistribute these positions um and I personally want us to consider um not either not opening zombro or doing it in a different way because it you know on the can you go to the next slide I'm pretty sure it's the very next slide um where it says the positions will be transfered from other schools
060but that's not exactly true you have to hire a principal you have to hire office staff you have to hire a custodian potentially reading interventionist like all of those people aren't transferring um those would be new hires you know the teacher positions yes and I know that there's a lot of concern about you know the FSB and whether we open it but can we think of a different option can we put preschool there we have a coordinator you know could you open with preschool and kindergarten could the coordinator so that we start getting new kids new kids moving in that want to join you're going to have to have food service if you're going to have preschool because they have breakfast or lunch depending on you know what session they attend could we put all
061of our self-contained programs our crer schools over there because they have their own administrators I just want us to think outside the box because um when Mr Balden presented at the last study session he said it was about $500,000 you know that we setting aside for the school and you know in the list that that is provided we're still only at 2.6 and that's if we do everything on this list which I don't know that any of us are comfortable with everything on this list we still have a whole million dollars to go and that's just the reality um you know I do think we need to have some study session I don't think we can sit up here at 11 o'clock at night and make good decisions I really think we need to have
062a a spreadsheet and this has been done in the past before um where Crystal sits up there and she has a spreadsheet and she adds in the dollar amount and when we get to 3.6 then we stop but I think we need to be able to play around with things and to see how things but you know we do need there's there are big decisions to make um and I just want to make sure that we do it and give Justice to you know our staff and our teachers that we really looking at the best way to make the cuts so family of course I think excuse me Loretta zumro needs to open um I think we need to be able to capture those kids now the question I I agree we need to be
063creative and how it opens um you know I I think there was a number earlier thrown out that was in the single digits of what we were expecting kids to go there and I I don't think that's accurate but I still think we could still potentially open k through three and see who registers if we're going to have it open for preschool you might as well have it open for K through three as was the initial plan and if you get 50 kids then you know what you need a staff if you get 300 kids then you know what you need a staff um but I think having the option to we'll say capture those kids because obviously that's going to help us with our financial problems um that's going to give us the that
064increased Revenue I I don't like the idea of of just putting a hold on the Reddit zbro we identified four unique positions needed for zumro exclusively principal principal probably a secretary admin assistant a health aid and the custodian so those were the four that were unique the other ones could be shared potentially with other campuses that are smaller because you have a smaller population what about food service Food Service pays for themselves that program does so they would they would hire their own person there so that would be four and that's I think that's why Mr Balton had set aside 500,000 so that might not be close to 500,000 and then the teachers would be transferred from other schools you know one per section or wherever we are so right now we just identified those
065four positions that would be unique and so you add up those salaries it's probably close to I know find I don't know maybe half 300,000 I'm not sure but uh and then the other positions potentially with a smaller population we could share with a school like Liberty or other schools that have a smaller population um you know interventionist reading interventionist counselor those kind of things so this is an action item so um you know I think we've provided some Direction but I I you know I think we need to have another meeting that really dives into this because you know I our staff is counting on us to make the decisions because they need to know about their contracts and they deserve to know in my opinion um so you know I think I think
066there's I think we probably could talk about the meeting in this agenda item or is there another one especially if we're talking about next yeah I mean we can in this agenda item or later on but if we're talking about a meeting next week yeah we need have to table it to talk about budget and finalize these contracts we could do it here can we talk about uh you know when the board is available to have another meeting I think that's at the end okay upcoming board meeting is 10.1 okay all right can we have a motion do we want to make a motion to give specific um direction or priorities or do you want to make a motion that says you know everything we've talked about or table or because I've tried to write
067down everything between all of us that all four of you have shared or is there anything that any of you are forgetting to say I've tried to capture a lot of the things you guys have said oh the other thing that I really would like the administration to think about too is to adjust um job description and responsibilities so um I feel like Mr Hicks said this is you know we're going to have to eliminate positions but those jobs still have to get done and I think we are going to need to rewrite those job descriptions before we issue contracts because I don't feel like we should be issuing contracts to people if the job descriptions are going to change significantly and I think some of them are unfortunately there's going to be more responsibilities
068um so that was just the other thing I wanted um Administration to consider got it and you know I just really would like us to you know I feel like we need options to get all the way to 3.6 you know we can't stop it too we just have to get all the way there got it we you know we'll work with Ken with Mr Hicks as well we hope we don't think that number will be that big but it's great to have a bigger a bigger number I agree so I think this needs to be its own meeting I don't think we can tag this on to the emergency meeting next week because that has to be short some people only available oh okay well okay we'll talk about it at 10.1 but we
069got to do some with a motion on this we do we can table it we could yeah we could just make a motion to table it's for a later date correct okay I make a motion to table item 8.6 to a later date I second we have a motion in a second I'll call for the vote Mr Kenyan I miss Schmid I Mr ccan I I'm also an I will show that pass 4 Z okay 8.7 discussion consideration for the selection of the three uh board candidate names I'm going to start again I apologize 8.7 discussion consideration for selection of three board candidate names to the mayor Copa county superintendent office Dr Monroe vice president zman members of the board this is a time for the board to discuss uh uh and then decide whether
070they can come to a consensus on the top three names to send to the this state Maricopa County State School Superintendent uh Mrs bogs did attend I think she attended all of the Forum the other night we had a forum with many of our candidates and uh just want to remind the board if the board doesn't remember we've been reminded by the office if the board can't come to a consensus on the top three that we're supposed to send regardless we'll send all the information on all the candidates to the no matter what but if the board can't come to a consensus then I've been told all of them will be interviewed or that process will then be handed over to them so now is the time for the board to deliberate talk about that
071and uh see if they can come to a mo uh Minnie and I stand ready to let the county know tomorrow we have until the 7th but um I also know that the board has received various feedback from the community from the public forum and so now is the time for the board to be able to discuss that um before we start I just want to make a clarification for the public there was some concern about the survey and how many times you were able to um take the survey and things like that so I just want to um I think you left oh no there he is okay um um I just want to thank Dr SLO that he you know made those Corrections and provided the board with um you know kind of
072two versions of the data and when um you know when all of the answers are submitted you know how do the candidates Rank and then removing when multiple um surveys were taken under the same IP address and so we were able to see all of that information and so I just want the public I know there was some concern and so I just want the public to know that that you know we were given the data um appropriately and you know thank you to Dr SLO who took all that extra time to make sure that we had that and then um even clarified um you know how when people made comments they didn't necessarily name people just like oh I really support these three people and so he went through and identified all that data
073and what names that was tied to so I just want to take Dr SLO time to thank him for that um and just you know to publicly knowledge so that people are you know can be assured that you know we got the information as expected about okay um we'll go ahead with Mr Kenyan thank you yes do thank you Dr SLO that was you it was a good survey I know there were some bugs and you've pretty much dealt with the bugs so thank you um uh really at the end of the day Michelle bog is going to Appo who she appoints I know we can submit recommendations um there's one name in particular I want to see on here and that's going to be Donnie Bond so if we have a if we come
074up with three I'm possibly okay with that but I I won't accept one that doesn't have Donnie bond in it and I would rather just send submit them all all seven Miss Schmid um I so I do want to address the thing about the multiple people in the same home we got the information from both sets so everybody even all the ones that came from the same IP address and the ones that were not we saw it in both situations so it was accounted for um I also would like to say that we weren't talking about like three from the same IP address we were talking about like potentially hundreds from the same IP address so that is not that's not a multigenerational home um but either way we saw both steps of data um
075just to just to clarify that uh I have three um people that I I came up with based on listening to their responses reading through them again I took tons of notes last week reading through all of the responses from the people who took the surveys and taking that all into account um I unfortunately I don't know that we're going to agree because the person that is been stated to be the only you know has to be on the list is not on my list so I I will say that um do should I give my names or do we not need them now that's up to you okay well my my list in no particular order um what Anna Gutierrez um Courtney Kelly and Ashley Wright I thought all three of them gave excellent
076answers unfortunately Miss Kelly was not able to be with us but I did read through all of her information the other two um that I thought were great candidates were very poised on stage kept to the topic um had good answers are involved um you know Miss gueras was incredibly professional and well educated and just you know listening to her talk I I was like she knows what she's doing and we need someone who knows what they're doing so um those are my top three Mr cion uh yeah there was a lot of great candidates um I would like to see some mix up what I'm sorry oh I thought said uh but I agree with Mr Kenyan I like to see Donnie Bond on there um just because it does represent multiple of the
077sides of the community right um I I do like um Miss Gutierrez also I think she was a good candidate but I like to see Donnie on there and if we can't agree then it's just simple just sit in there building um you know um in terms of the you know kind of what's been said in the candidates you know my concern um with Donnie and another candidate is those people ran in the election and and it was the highest turnout we probably probably ever seen um 80 over 80% in a School Board Race which I think is like unheard of and I feel like that election happened recently and the stakeholders you know gave their say and so I'm not comfortable putting somebody forward that the elect you know the voters of this District
078already voted to not you know put into office so um you know I I think based on the Forum I you know based my decision on um people that I saw in the Forum um and so those two other candidates that did not come to the Forum like I'm I wasn't necessarily considering them just because I didn't think they uh I'm not saying that you know um superintendent bog shouldn't consider them I'm just saying for my personal things I didn't consider them so based on that I would be comfortable recommending um Ashley Wright Anna Gutierrez and Mike Lions based on the other criteria that I gave so like I was saying like every's GNA have their opinion obviously Donnie aligns more with my personal beliefs and so that's I'm going am supporting which I didn't
079I really be honest I didn't expect us to agree on three names anyway so I I would like to say um that my not choosing someone wasn't even necessarily personal beliefs but more along the lines of what Miss Zimmerman said that we just had an election in November two of the potential candidates were on the and did not get enough votes to win and so if we're listening to our stakeholders and we're listening to our constituents they did not vote for them so that was more along where I that was my thought process in that as well so I've seen that comment and it made me think uh the other side of that is why didn't the other candidates run they got they received no votes from anybody so that's how I look at that
080yeah I I kind of was similar um you know people who invested their own money to run and as we all did um it it really means a lot when somebody's invested uh it's easy for a nomination it means something when you put your own money out there and you're running a campaign and yes Miss Bond didn't win in that election but she wasn't far off um and so you know I in my opinion she's she's got the heart she's got a lot of the I mean gez her background is financial we're dealing with financial issues right now I think that she would be excellent person who can really dig into the finances portion of this and help get us some answers um and and then moving forward I think she's just going to be
081a great asset to the district but again I I kind of didn't think we were going to agree on three names either so I would just recommend personally that we just submit all seven okay I make a motion that we um send all seven names to the county superintendent a second we have a motion in a second Mr Kenyan I oh I'm so Sorry's falling the SE too um send all seven names to the county superintendent okay Mr Kenyan I Miss Schmidt hi Mr C I I'm also and I will show that approve 4 Z okay 8.9 discussion consideration oh no 8.8 I got myself discussion consideration of timeline for the trust policy Dr Monroe uh vice president Zimmerman members of the board I'd like to nail down some dates with the board kind of
082a timeline so we can plan for the completion of the asba policy transition over to the trust if you remember we're sort of a chapter four and a half four halfway through four with just the first read but I was hoping to get a timeline so that we can plan some meetings and the consultant can finish this with us uh we have the asba policies until the end of June so we could really Target June is like a second read and an approval of the policies but I listed some dates down some Monday dates down that if the board wants to consider it we don't need all of them I would say we could probably we could probably use three of those dates these are not board meeting dates they're Mondays they don't have to
083be Mondays but um Mrs castano said she could probably use another hour at a minimum with chapter four and then chapter five is the medi one that could be two or three hours so that could be one special work study session or it could be broken up however I added some dates here for the board to consider um I really don't like that Monday April the 14th date just because we have a board meeting on the 15th but you know if there was a date in March April and May that the board could spend some time finishing this out we're getting there we're pretty close and then uh we could bring a lot of the revisions and stuff we brought back to a second read so that that could be approved in June that's naturally
084when the asba expires which would be a good time so if the board wants to look at those dates or or look at your phone and kind of give us some of those dates what you guys would think then we can all plan and I know I know the board has summer vacations and things like that coming up as well um can we just maybe talk about the day of the week I know you had said when we moved to Tuesdays that this wasn't your favorite day so do want to do these on Mondays is that a better day uh yeah I it's fine we have to get this done we're running out lot of time so so do we want to do them on Mondays or yeah Mondays work for me okay I would
085I'm just looking at my calendar I would caution the 24th though of March because that's that's the day we come back from spring break correct uh I yes I believe you're right and then April 14th April 15th we have a board meeting so I doubt the board can be here two nights in a row so 26th of Memorial Day good catch so I mean we could do an April 7th depending on or what the board calendar is we could also do an April and and the 21st is the day after Easter just um just you know I don't know if people go out of town and just pointing it out I'll be so how how is it April 7th do you guys want to check real how's your April 7th I'm good Chris Mr Kon
086Mrs I can make it okay what about about a a you know a may you know I know that's the end of the year you know but typically there's not a lot of stuff on a Monday night for the end of the year but I say that without looking at school calendars but we have a May 5th and then May 19th we skipping over April 21st oh I'm sorry yeah that's the day after Easter but I'll be in I'm in town I just was put putting it out there Mr Kenyon can you do April 21st yes okay and what about those May dates what what May 5th or May 19th the line better with you May 19th I suspect that's probably the last week of school I would think yeah May 5th is um I
087feel like there's a lot of school stuff going on like I have something in my calendar like um you know just like end of your band and just all those kinds of things May 19th I would think would it would all be kind of wrapped up except promotion I assume is going to be that week but not on a Monday night I assume correct so I would be okay with May 19th I can do May 19th Mr s May 19 good Mr Kenyon okay so I have April 7th April 21st and then may the 19th and again if we we may not even need that may date depending on you know if we spend two hours together each time and we want to be able to get you guys the we want to be able
088to get you guys chapter five so you have enough time to look at it like we've talked about and chapter 5 is more mey I've been told I haven't really Dove to chapter five myself yet I'm still on chapter four but okay so April 7th uh mini we have April 7th April 21st and May 19th um so I don't yeah this's just discussion I don't think we need a motion I don't think there's an action on there right no there's not okay excuse me vice president Zimmerman can we just um did you want to can you just let me know what time you would like to start 4:30 oh okay now we're back to Mondays I forgot about yes these are these are SPS these are Mondays and we could switch the date we could
089do a 4:30 start 5:30 start just I'm okay 4:30 5:30 can we just do 5:30 in case my kid sorry I'll never get to see Mr s only 5:30 can you do that m yeah that's fine okay so let's do 5:30 Minnie thank you Minnie okay um 8.9 discussion consideration to acknowledge receipt of the auditor General's performance audit report for fiscal year 22 uh fiscal year 2223 and 232 24 Dr Monroe vice president Zimmerman members of the board when we have our yearly audits one of the things that's changed in the last two or three years I think under statute is the board votes by I roll call vote to acknowledge the receipt of the audit um and although that's not required legally by the performance review I asked the auditor General's office um we
090presented it here as just an acknowledgement of a receipt and so it doesn't mean an agree or a disagree it's just a roll call vote to acknowledge that we've received the findings or the results of the uh audit so we bring it here to the board so that we can follow that same practice with the performance review it is public it's made available on the AG on the auditor General's website I'm ready to make a motion want to talk motion to acknowledge receipt of the auditor General's performance audit report for the fiscal year 2223 and 2324 second we have a motion in a second I'll call for the vote Mr Kenyan hi M Schmidt hi Mr C hi I'm also an I will show that approved 4 Z 8.10 discussion consideration of superintendent contract revision
091Dr Monroe Mr Dangerfield sorry as been discussed earlier uh we have now the the um amended contract for your approval okay and just for you know transparency sake we are adding the um when the performance pay can be approved by the school board um between June 1st and June 30th after I should after the um achievement reports have been received from the Arizona Department of student achievement reports so just to ensure that um you know we have all the data in order to evaluate the goals of the superintendent so if there are no questions we'll go ahead and take a motion you have no questions over that Dr Monroe uh no if to what we talked about before yeah that that I don't have any questions I motion to approve the superintendent contract provision second
092we have a motion in a second I'll call for the vote Mr Kenyan hi Miss Schmid I Mr sunion I I'm also and I will show that approved 4 Z okay we'll go on to 9.1 board comments on agenda topics and items for future consideration Mr Kenyan yeah thank you um one of the things that I've been asked about a couple times and uh one of our contestants Mike lion he brought it up during during that last meeting I would like to kind of see if Administration can get us the numbers um of probably last year I don't know if you can dig into the year before but I what I'm looking for is how many kids that weren't really ready to graduate graduated if that makes sense promoted promoted or graduated right out of
093eth grade but um versus you know you know how many were just recommended to be promoted versus they were actually met the qualifications to be promoted and I know there's a lot of involvement in that I know there's you know parents get involved teachers have recommendations all that kind of stuff happens but I'm just curious what those numbers are okay let me work with Dr slow on that I think we can produce that Miss Schmid I don't have anything right now Mr seren I'm good um I just have two things um and I I think that uh before I would like the board to discuss whether the district should complete the risk action plan from the attorney general um because that would involve a lot of work um I don't want to recommend that the
094district do that without a conversation so i' just like us to discuss it um and I think it just needs to show um you know help us find the root cause of what occurred with the budget um and then I'd also like the district to um explain how they're fixing the deficiencies in the performance audit got it okay we'll go on to 10.1 which is upcoming board meetings so on here we have Tuesday April 15th work study session and regular board meeting sorry Monday May 13th um work study session and regular board meeting and then June 3rd regular board meeting um and I know there was some yeah this would be where we could talk about the meeting next week okay so there's been some conversation about you know having a a board uh work
095session or special meeting a combination for us to be able because we did not issue teacher contracts tonight and I think we absolutely need to do that next week but we also you know want to think about our other contracts um um you know particularly like reading interventionist contracts and instructional coaches contracts before the rest of the state issues their contract but in order for me to feel comfortable doing that we have to work through the budget so I I think we can do that I think I'm kind of hearing two things we can have some budget discussion some budget priority discussion but we'll stand ready and again uh I'm pretty sure Mr Hicks will be able to be here because I was talking to him about a couple days where the board can have
096confence Ence where we can issue those contracts if we approve the language for all the employee groups um and be able to have that budget discussion before that so I mean it sounds like two short items but I don't know how long it would how long it would be yeah I don't know how comfortable I feel having a meeting with the agenda items on there when we haven't discussed the budget I mean I think we need to issue teacher contracts but I think there needs to be two separ separate meetings because I'm not sure how to set an agenda if we haven't discussed the budget priorities and how we're going to make the cuts so I don't know if there's something that we can have like a study session on Monday and then no I
097can't I oh okay sorry I'm sorry no I I next week is really booked for me um I can make some time available on Monday but it's got to be like a 30 minute thing so my initial thought when this was presented was that we can come in we can I know we wanted to get contracts out and usually that's a pretty quick thing obviously nothing has been quick so um you know we yes we need to get the principal and teacher contracts out and so my thought is hopefully Administration can bring those contracts with that amended language in it we can review that real quick approve that approve the contract well yeah approve that approve the contracts um and the people who would be receiving them right the names uh and I I think
098that's really all I have time for that night so when it comes to doing a I just know how how our board has been operating a budget session is going to be a couple hours long I don't I don't see it being a quick thing no I I agree so is there another night next week that you're able to do it or next week no and that's where it's going to get tight and then at Spring break so so what uh what day did you say Monday you had some time mon Monday I have time I don't know about the rest of the board for a quick meeting though not a study session uh what Mr Schmid Mr s what's your Monday yeah I can I can make something quick on Monday I can do
099Monday I can do Monday but I think the Board needs to discuss about doing a budget study session then because I don't feel like we can issue other contracts and so now we're going to be after spring break so the week sorry I'm pulling it up again um what about the week after spring break what is our availability 24 to 28 I'm just for administration the 24th is the day we come back from spring break would an Administration be able to they have a budget study session uh we would make it happen if that's what the board's availability is yeah we would make it happen so what what would you so what do you guys Envision Monday night what do you want to was what do you want us to come prepared with Monday or
100or are we still talking about having something Monday let let's talk about can we go down the line for that date okay I kind of said my sorry been wait since 4. um so for Monday we just so this coming Monday is a quick is a quick meeting totally we're just issuing we're approving the contract language the updated contract language and the teacher contracts and the principal contracts okay so now we need to move on priority discuss yeah study session so we have to move past spring break now because we can't meet during spring break I mean I'm with um my question I guess is you know if there you know if you prepare a presentation and then you know the time for questions I just I'm concerned about it being on a Monday again
101are you able later in the week is fine as well for me like I Monday doesn't could we do Tuesday um Mr Kenyon I Tuesday don't know I should be able I move stuff around that week I know it's am I missing anything Mr Dangerfield Dr Mahorn I know it's late and we're all trying to process is there anything that comes to your mind is there looking at a second meeting for those for that date I just want to make sure I know we're all tired and it's late we're trying to think through the schedule I mean we can do it on Monday you know do you feel like Administration is prepared will could be prepared by the end of next week for then us to have time to ask questions and you know NE
102next week if or if we're going to try to do it on Monday the 20 sorry on the 24th you know but if we would you you know try to prepare that presentation and you know what that study session is going to look like next week week so then we have time to look over it during that whole week and be able to ask questions and then that's that would be my idea because uh I know this year I'll be gone for spring break so I'd like to prepare that and then we could find the day after spring break to have that budget discussion we could put together the stuff with Crystal so my thought would be to have it ready for next week by the time we leave for break so the board has
103it for a week in a day or a week in a few days and then you know again Monday is a quick turnaround after spring break we could certainly do that if that's the board's availability but we could also do it Tuesday Wednesday if the board wants but yeah I'd want to make sure you guys have time with what we prepared so yeah I'd want to put that give us a week timeline to work that out for next week make sure you guys have it Wednesday works for me too that's the 26th but then we if we get into Wednesday yeah I would rather it be the 24th for person okay I'm okay with the 24th if if we feel like we can you know answer the questions and you know I just want to
104make sure that we have the information we need and then I feel like that if we hold a study session you know if there are other contracts that we want to issue if we did a quick meeting later in the week just to issue contracts once the budget priorities are set because now we've passed the March 15th deadline when the rest of the state is issuing contracts so the longer we go not issuing them the more likely we are to lose people but again I'm not comfortable setting an agenda if the board hasn't discussed their priorities so if we have the meeting on Monday we can get out the teacher we can get out the teacher contracts on the 15th it's all the other ones yes but you know potentially we're not issuing reading interventionist
105specific contracts on Monday so yeah those people are potentially going to be looking for a job unfortunately um so I think on Monday you know if we meet and have a study session then we could have you know 24 hours to call another meeting and set an agenda to issue some contracts because you know we're not issuing APS District staff you know at with all kinds of psychologists slps I mean that really makes me nervous I did I don't know if we can talk about here the SLP contracts the related services I don't think I can okay so right now I have a a kind of a special meet a regular well it's a special meeting on Monday a short one um for contracts and and teacher and principal names we don't have to do
106any public comment um you know uh we could have a quick meeting and then after we would prepare for the board uh we'd have a meeting on the 24th but before that we would prepare data for the board so that we could prior having that meeting prioritize some of the budget items then perhaps after that to your point call a quick meeting a day or two after to approve those and get those contracts out is that right yeah okay are we good okay um we 11.1 um we will during the meeting at 11:42 were I was closer to being