School Board Business Meeting and Presentations 5_30 p.m. 10-23-23

001I ask that out of respect to everyone please silence all electronic devices at this time I would like to call the meeting to order the time is 5:30 p.m. I would now like to recognize the superintendent for a series of awards and presentations thank you madam chair our first presentation is a check presentation and it's actually for some of us the second opportunity to be presented with this check this morning at 8:30 we had the opportunity to finally put a shovel in the ground and do our kickoff for the Jimmy Graves Sports and Community complex this is a project that Mr Barefoot brought to my attention uh when he first took board and uh took the board and said hey let's see if we can't meet with Joe Graves and see if there's an opportunity

002to partnership uh and bring to life uh the vision that Joe Graves had for that site which was a to remember his son while at the same time providing a space uh for our community to give back to our community uh that land was donated by the grav family to us and we went to work uh and today was the opportunity uh to bring to life what is phase one of that project and just to bring a a point of reference for everyone who is listening uh that is a space directly across from Vero Beach Senior High School uh and we are working on a brand new new legal siiz track and field which will allow us to have competitions for all of our students uh across our County and also a tracked in major

003events uh for the track and field it is eight Lanes it is like I said an official track where previously what we had at the Citrus Bowl was only six or seven lanes and we couldn't have competitions so imagine your son or daughter uh making a commitment to join the track team and never having the opportunity to have a home home Track event uh they now will have that opportunity we're also putting in place a inclusive playground this is a playground that will meet the needs of all children in our community which will allow them the opportunities to interact and this is not just for the school system it is for the community uh raising funds for this especially now has become extremely complex because the price for everything has ultimately gone up and there's

004a number of individuals who contributed to this project uh them out of their own pockets and I'm going to acknowledge uh some of those individuals uh who were with us this morning as we did the the groundbreaking but not not here right now but they still want I still want to acknowledge them the V voo Beach city council members uh gave us $1 million towards this project the LJ Foundation gave us $500,000 the Richardson family gave us $300,000 Paul and Jane Becker gave us 47,000 uh and j John and Toby Taylor gave us 10,000 thank you um every single time thank you exactly um and then we began uh really to explore H how can we get this done expeditiously uh and through the support of Senator Debbie Mayfield and representative Robbie braget who Robbie

005bracket who who partnered uh they are here today based on their support and advocacy for all of us here in our community to present us with a check for $3.4 million uh which completes in totality phase one of this project done through a referendum so at this time I'd like to call the two of them to the podium uh to present us uh with this check their hard work and their commitment to our [Applause] community believe or not Mr said Mayfield he calls me Mayfield because we go way back Mayfield I need to see you when you get back into town we got a project to work on so as true as he is to his word he got in touch with me and and uh he came and we talked about this project and

006he wanted 5 million and I said okay can we let's get a little bit more realistic here okay okay and uh he said okay well how about three so um so I will tell you you have a big advocacy person in Mr Hart he worked hard he was in Tallahassee and I'm sure representative Brackett could attest to this because he was in Mr in representative bracket's office he was in my office he was following up he was working with the school district to make sure that money got in the budget and anyone that knows the budget process um it takes two it takes the house has to have it in their budget and the Senate has to have it in their budget and if that's not hard enough um then we have to go through

007a conferencing process to make sure it stays in the budget and if you're not up there at night making sure your stuff doesn't come out of the budget during the conferencing process you are probably going to lose out and representative bracket and I were up there every night of conferencing to make sure that money stayed in the budget and I tell you I couldn't have a better partner uh in Tallahassee than uh having representative bracket with me and a better person watching after the school district and the good things going on in inder county for me U than Mr Hart so I want to thank them I want to thank the school board and and chair Mr represent bracket want to well I just say thank you uh for that Debbie it's it a pleasure

008working with you on this it was a pleasure doing this project for the school district um you know as a lifelong resident third generation individual here that property meant so much to the to the residents from this area that are familiar with it and knew it back in the day when it was something happening there every single night and so because of the generosity of the graves family and the history very rich history and the time spent with the Wilson family and what they've done for this community I think the joint venture is going to be a wonderful project and that's why when I was the mayor of the city of Euro I have was 100% behind this and wanted to make that happen uh and and we did that there and then took the

009next leap and with Debbie's help or Senator Senator Mayfield here was able to do the same thing we keep calling by our first name because we've known each other since 1988 we're very good friends but uh but uh it's a um uh it's a pleasure to work with with all those involved with us and and we look forward to to many more opportunities to do that thank you thank you so can I I if the B the board would indulge me if we all can go down there and receive the check and take a picture I think that would be absolutely outstanding even Mr Barefoot with his hurt knee exactly the check number is the same as this morning that's right [Applause] than I have cop for the meeting I'll you o' I'll get i'll

010you thank you it's nice to receive a check for once typically we're we're giving away checks during this time uh for the remaining presentations I will turn it over to our public information officer Miss maox well and that's what just what we're going to do right now is give a check away um because our next presentation is our casual for a cause present and for those of you who are not familiar with casual for a cause it's a day when our students staff and staff get to dress down in exchange for a donation toward an organization that is on our casual for a cause calendar and last month we had Trio Upward Bound and I would like to ask Miss jod idlet to please come to the podium to receive the check for $2,491 [Applause]

011picture good evening to the board superintendent Moore I want to First say thank you so much for selecting Trio Upward Bound casual for a cause not not only um provides the opportunity for students to learn about giving back to their Community but also inform families about the one ful resources within our community Trio overbound Services students in 9 through 12 at each local high school we provide after school tutorials advising in school Saturday programs workshops College chores summer programs and more so this funding will also help support the mission which is um College access for underrepresented under served students thank you so much [Applause] than [Music] next we have our Safety and Security Spotlight and I would like to ask Mr Eric Seymour assistant superintendent of Student Affairs Advocacy and access to please come to

012the podium [Music] thank you okay um recognizing and rewarding employees for their dedication to Safety and Security creates a posit positive feedback loop encouraging a culture of vigilance and responsibility in the workplace it also serves as a reminder that safety is a collective effort and responsib ability William fenold has personally overseen the camera upgrade project which is a massive ordeal and very instrumental in the installation of our newest security system he has been observed walk walk working on weekends to ensure our vendors have the required information to implement our security systems and modernizing the process he is assist the Indie River County Sheriff's Office with their realtime crime Center access to support our schools and a true indication of his talents he has only been in the job for two months whether it is climbing

013a ladder cleaning a lens adjusting views or collaborating with the vendor on a highly confidential piece of equipment William is the man for the job we appreciate his extra time and talents SD IRC is a safer place with him on the job let's congratulate this young man give him a big round of applause yeah go ahead all right I guess I have to um thank you it's very kind words um I didn't prepare anything but it's a it's really a team effort I mean that's uh with the IT team getting this together with the security team and I think we're going to make a really uh I guess high quality system you know so thank you I know [Applause] thanks [Laughter] right there we go I'm looking for a window than you two mons there

014you go look at that thank you brother thank you for all you do appreciate it thanks thank you so much okay last but certainly not least we have our steam designated schools presentation I would like to ask Mitsy dco and Christen Brookner to come to the podium to help us recognize these schools hello and thank you guys so much for uh joining us we wanted to congratulate the amazing steam designated schools for the 2223 school year and the Epic steam teachers and leaders at those schools these schools have demonstrated Excellency in integrating science technology engineering arts and math this work is led by our epic steam teachers and leaders who Foster and facilitate the work of experimenting problem solving investigating and communicating we are excited to recognize the hard work and accomplishments of our steam

015schools for the 22 23 school year last year was no doubt a year full of challenges however our steam teachers and leaders continue to integrate exciting standards based steam instruction and opportunities throughout the school year to ensure our Learners continue to grow through real world approaches to learning it is an honor to have the privilege to work with your teams and present each steam school with a steam banner and certificate in recognition of your Collective efforts and hard work dedication to being best by students regardless of the challeng es faced and continued partnership with local community organizations to further the work this year thank you all so much for the time it takes to plan and Implement these engaging activities for our students so that they can truly learn about and explore the world around

016them I would also like to introduce our elementary science and steam specialist um new to our team this year Kristen Brookner leg istically we are going to have the principes come up for each School they'll be presented with their steam banner and certificate and then epic steam teachers will be identified for each school as well we ask the teachers please stand at your seat until all schools have been recognized we're going to start with Beachland Elementary School who this year is receiving a gold designation they're the Epic steam teachers from Beachland are Diane jelly Alysa Johnson Sam chrisop Rachel finnean Adrien palari Karen whan Chris Sweeney and the PTA Indian River Academy this year will be receiving the bronze designation the teachers from Ira Elaine ragley Laura Bissell Amy D Bora and Melissa [Music] Roberts

017from Pelican Island Elementary who will be receiving the gold designation Jerry Anderson Katie balini Jenny Taylor Diane lot Maria MTH Jonathan mclen Jennifer Drake Jennifer Corey Kim Weis and Kelsey whan Rosewood magnet school with the gold designation Megan stren Julie Carol Christ Christine Clark and Jesse [Applause] Porter never miss an opportunity Treasure Coast Elementary for the gold designation Anita Styles Britney Tims and Amy Kahan nope Kaye hanui gford Middle School for the silver designation Joe Phelps Kristen Knight and MaryAnn Thomas Storm Grove Middle School for gold designation Joan Martinelli Kim Bryant Amber green and Whitney [Applause] Hughes and Oola Magnet Elementary with the gold designation Bridget bis Allison beis Ashley hary Crystal Morgan terce Victoria Beth wood April Glazer Laura celo Jill osowski Beth Testa Lori Van Ain Jill bernholz Kayla connard Becky Davis Kevin

018oink Don Shore Tess boringer Leslie kameny Courtney Jensen Jen Maro Kathy Cathcart Brittney eatman Katherine Woodall Liz Healey Janine Jones Yolanda Lucas Diane pentella and Kim B if any of those teachers are in the audience from any of the schools would you please stand as [Applause] well thank you guys congratul Madam chair that concludes presentations all right thank you very much as Dr Mo said this will conclude our presentations for the evening the time is 5:49 p.m. the business meeting will begin at 6:00 p.m. thank you I would like to call this meeting to order the time is 6: p.m. I ask that out of respect to everyone you please silence all electronic devices and at this time we'll have the pledge led by the Sebastian River High School NE Navy junor RC with Peter

019banet and Michael Husky and please remain standing for a moment of silence after the pledge thank you colors ready [Music] gentle flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for [Music] all post colors hand salute ready to post colors March please remain standing for a moment of silence for all innocent victims and their families in the war in the Middle East thank you at this time board members we are on the adoption of the orders of the day board members are there any items you wish to move from consent to action yes M Rosario 5A and would you pleas District strategic plan 5H the approval of the amended business minutes from February 28th 6A which is the approval of

020the recommended instructional materials adoption for social studies and I'd like to add an item um well I have a question before I add that item on our printed form some of the items just didn't get printed but online we have some items in discussion that are not on our printed form so I just wanted to make sure we are going by what is online sure just tell me what what it was M res I just want to make sure that the library objection process is still there it is it is okay that's fine then then that's then I'm fine that I'm not adding any other items and what number was that please you're just adding it no I don't need to add it it's it's on there it's just not on our printed that's all

021any other board members yes Miss I'd like to add a discussion item um board member comments okay I would like to add one thing just to talk a little bit about the organizational meeting and the timeline for that um so that's the one I would like to add all right the chair now calls for a proper motion to adopt the orders of the day I'll make a motion to adopt them as amended thank you second m barenborg second by Mr Barefoot any discussion all in favor please say I I anyone opposed okay the vote carries 5 Z all right we now come to the superintendent's report in order to have time for our proclamations um we do not have a presentation tonight good evening we have two proclamations tonight our first Proclamation is very special

022to us tonight the Holocaust Education week Proclamation Holocaust Education week uh is held in Florida November 7th through 11th so to recognize that ahead of time um we are doing it at this board meeting excuse me November 6th through 10th not 7th through 11th this year and we have some very special members in the audience with us I would like to ask Rabbi burnol to come up with his guests and Rabbi if you would please introduce your guest to us we'd appreciate that thank you so it is oops um as we are here I am joined by Hannah Daniel who is the um coordinator facilitator for the community 1 initiative we also have many of the members of our congregation Board of Trustees that are here with us usually when you come forward um for

023a proclamation it is something to celebrate it as something joyous and yet here I stand before the school board but also before the community and this is not a proclamation to celebrate um but it is a proclamation of very powerful witness so often in our world um we are lifted up by Celebrations by positive things happening in our world and yet sometimes we also learn from the challenges that are around us from the challenges of our history and and so this Proclamation is about one of those challenges the genocide of the Holocaust is one of many genocides that have happened in human history and it is our Hope by learning about the Holocaust by teaching from it we all can learn those lessons of empathy of caring of being an upstander in our world um

024and taking care of everyone around us and so we stand before you to to share this Proclamation for our school district whereas the Holocaust was an atrocity against European Jewish people which was set in motion by the Nazi government in Germany with the intent to annihilate the Jewish race and whereas persecution of Jews involved the passage of anti-Semitic laws public humiliation organized violence physical displacement looting isolation incarcerations internment and forced labor that led to the murder of 6 million Jews and whereas the stories of Sur stories and Survivor accounts should be preserved and taught to Future generations to nurture tolerance in a pluralistic society and whereas we should reflect on and remember the millions of murdered and persecuted Jewish people and others who were victims of the Nazi regime and whereas through education we can

025learn to respect all people and protect Democratic institutions and values whereas as Holocaust Education week is part of Florida's required instruction under Section 13422 G Florida Statutes Florida will be a beacon in educating our youth so that all victims and all involved in liberating the survivors may be honored and now therefore it is proclaimed by our school board of Indian River County that you proclaim the week of Monday November 6th through Friday November 10th 2023 as Holocaust Education week in memory of the victims of the Holocaust and in honor of the survivors as well as The Rescuers and liberators thank you for the opportunity to share that Proclamation thank you and and board members we need to take a vote all in favor of the Holocaust Education week Proclamation please signify by saying I I

026thank you very much Rabbi vote carries five to zero thank you very much than thank you [Applause] rabbi [Music] next we have our anti-bullying Proclamation and I would like to ask Sarah a coordinator of Mental Health and Social Services to come to the podium please our board members will each be reading a line or two of this Proclamation good evening uh School District board members families and friends thank you for having me um October is National bullying Awareness Month on behalf of Student Affairs Advocacy and access I have the pleasure of introducing the anti-bullying Proclamation this Proclamation serves as a collective call to address bullying in our community and reaffirm our commitment to promote kindness and respect for all at this time our board members will read the proclamation thank you whereas bullying is the

027aggressive use of power targeting another person or group of people with repeated unwanted words or action hurting them emotionally or physically and whereas bullying occurs in neighborhoods playgrounds schools in online through technology and whereas various researchers have concluded that bullying is the most common form of violence affecting millions of American children and AD adolescents annually and whereas thousands of Florida children and adolescen are affected by bullying annually and whereas targets of bullying are at an increased risk for depression anxiety sleep difficulties lower academic achievement and dropping out of school and students who are repeatedly bullied often fear such activities such as riding the bus going to school interacting online and attending community activities and whereas children who are who bully are at Great greater risk of engaging in more serious violent behaviors and whereas children

028who witness bullying often feel less safe helpless to stop it and intimidated whereas the school district of Indian River county is committed to providing safe and supportive learning environments for all students and employees whereas the school district of Indian River county is committed to training all staff and students on bullying and engaging in a year-long anti-bullying campaign now therefore be it proclaimed that the District School Board of Edy River county is committed to engaging all stakeholders including families and the communities to stand up to bullying Together We Can Make a Difference by promoting kindness empathy and understanding adopted by the school district of in River County on this day so board members we have a vote all in favor of the anti-bullying Proclamation please signify by saying I I anyone oppos thank you very much

029carries 5 to zero where you standing than you thank you all right the next part of our agenda is citizen input and I will read the citizen input guidelines at this time each statement made by a member of the public shall be limited to three minutes duration I will be recognizing in the order in which a requests were received the time shall start when the speaker is at the podium and the public information officer will be the official timekeeper as as you will see your time clock is visible to your left on the de you will hear a beep at the end of your 3 minutes each person may speak up to 3 minutes at the beginning of a business meeting during citizen input as indicated on the order of business and for up to

030three minutes to each action agenda item during the action agenda in each board member discussion item as indicated on the order of business if a consent item is moved to an action item when you come up to the podium you may speak at that time or defer to speak during the presentation of the action item people may only speak once about any given item the time period may be extended by the presiding officer only the individual submitting a speaker's form is allowed to address the board time may not be yielded to other speakers during the meeting please refrain from clapping or Outburst of any sort so that we can proceed with dignity and with decorum by not infringing on any individual's First Amendment rights I need to remind everyone to direct all comments to the

031chair not to individual board members or the superintendent board members may or may not address any citizen input statements at the end of all the citizen input comments as board members listen to citizens without interruption citizens are asked to give board members the same respect as per Florida statute 10001 3723 the presiding off officer of any district school board made order the removal from a public meeting held by The District School Board of any person interf in with the expeditious or orderly process of such meeting provided such officer has first issued a warning that continued interference with the orderly process of the meeting will result in a removal the first war warning is to everyone at this time I would calling you up two at a time the first person will be called to the

032podium to speak and the second person will be in line to speak speakers shall not engage in personal attacks or abusive language the chair has the right to terminate any speaker's privilege to address the board if the rule is violated if you have anything to give to board members or the superintendent please do this through our executive assistant Mrs Mory it is clear that the board has taken action to comply with the law regarding instructional materials including library books if you are here to express your opinion regarding HB 1069 on materials and school libraries we would ask that you visit staff in the lobby to initiate the challenge process finally the school district supports First Amendment rights of speakers in rights outlin in HP 1069 regarding Library materials as such some individuals may choose to

033exercise these rights which may include reading material with language or content that is not appropriate for all audiences knowing this please make a re reviewing a viewing decision appropriate for you and your family all right start with our speakers our SP first speaker is Jeff Bush followed by Cherry map for [Music] thank you than you thank [Music] you go ahead you can start yeah okay uh good evening Schoolboard members and community members my name is Jeff Bush and I've been uh teaching for 34 years in the last 10 years at ver Beach High School and I'm the biotechnology teacher there I'm here this evening to request the help of all of you to help all of their students and all of the teachers no one get singled out the school board members are supposed to

034protect all the children no matter their color their religion their financial situation their genetic makeup or their family's political beliefs recently I've seen the exact opposite from some of the school board members which is disappointing and hurting our school system recently I came to school on a Monday after having coid I tested negative so I felt like it was okay to come back but I wore a white n95 mask just to be safe to make students feel more comfortable and fellow staff members feel comfortable when coming into my classroom a person approached me and said hey why are you affiliated with the KKK first I thought the teacher was joking and then he showed me a recent post by one of our board members and I couldn't believe that I was being accused of being

035a racist just because I was trying to protect my students and my fellow teachers I've given each of you a picture of the recently awarded Nobel Prize winners from the University of Pennsylvania these scientists are considered some of the smartest in the world and go down in history for their scientific research they've done in the picture that you can see I gave you they're wearing white masks based on the recent post of a Schoolboard member by affiliation they are also then related to the clue clux Clan I'm sure they would be horrified by the affiliation just like I was coming back to school feeling sick on a Monday it's a prime example of how our Schoolboard members can be hurtful to the education process in my classes we learned about genetics and how no one

036should be discriminated against at all based on their genetic makeup I then do the research and find out where the post came from and I discovered there were other posts that were also defamatory towards Educators I don't understand why a school board member would support why a school board wouldn't support all kids no matter what their background is during Co 19 there was a huge cry out for teachers and kids to be back in the classroom we haven't changed as teachers so why now is it we hear about how we're indoctrinating kids with all these bad ideas bad philosophies we do indoctrinate kids we indoctrinate them to think clearly to treat others with respect to not be hateful not do drugs all right to do good volunte ering opportunities that's what we indoctrinate our kids

037with in spending your time supporting groups like what I call moms for non- Liberty spend your time helping us spend your time helping kids you all have expertise help them with finances help them with medicine help them with volunteering opportunities anything you can bring to the table would be appreciated we need your help thank you Mr Bush Cherry map followed by May aseno no Cherry map okay we'll come back if she comes in mayeno followed by Bob [Music] Lipton I will speak on several topics today first thank you to this board for voting to remove the many many inappropriate books from our school libraries by deciding to use logic and Common Sense you place the best interest of the children first so again thank you on another topic several times I heard at last month's

038meeting the term the local hate group and I can't help but wonder who these speakers were referring to NAACP Freedom Coalition defense of democracy group the teachers union I will not speak for any other group but if they were referring to moms for Liberty and they meant that moms for Liberty hates pornography and books at Public School libraries hates our children exposed to indecent material hates parents not having a say in their children's education or upbringing then I guess with that description you can call moms for Liberty a hate group but moms for Liberty does not hate anyone however it seemed that speakers in last month's meeting may have hated moms for Liberty one person even accused the group of making death threats to a board member with no proof of course as it is

039not true and no evidence has even been brought forth to the public they should learn to think for themselves and not just believe what gossip journalists and hate mongers are feeding them it is not right to preach tolerance but turn around and preach hatred next through the chair I want to express support for Dr PCA thank you for acting with boldness courage and making a priority the well-being of our children and not hesitating to speak up continue what you're doing there's many of us that support you and don't worry we'll show up to the polls do not be dissuaded or discouraged by the ill will that a few are are showing towards you through the chair again I want to thank Miss Rosario for always speaking up for the protection of Citizens First Amendment right

040of free speech at these meetings and thank you also for emphasizing that if you are not happy about the reading of the books in the meeting then you should be happy that they were removed now that's logic now also please continue to bring up whatever question or discrepancy in Robert's Rules or the law for that matter that you have at these meetings because we have all the right to clarification and your diligence is appreciated in this matter and last everyone here regardless of what side of an issue you are on should want our schools to be focused on effectively educating our children in the basics of math Reading Writing so they can have an opportunity to be successful in life I want to add one more item to the list of Basics I would like

041to encourage the board to support the requirement of the teaching of the Constitution we must instill in our children a belief that the constitution is the foundation for this country's laws and we must teach our children that the amendments are absolutely and not fluid the first the second the 13th look it up and all the rest of them it was disturbing to learn that the free Pocket constitutions were offered to our middle schools and not accepted and if they were not accepted because of the group that offered them then you're placing politics over the children and that is simply wrong thank you thank you Bob Lipton and Gregory Ross I'm Bob Lipton of Vero Beach and I Rise to address the letter written by Thomas Kenny earlier this month his disparagement of Peggy Jones Tony

042Brown Kevin Browning and others was uncalled for nevertheless he made some statements that were true nobody who wrote the Florida board of education standards ever said black people benefited from slavery quote unquote and if Peggy or Tony or Kevin or k Harris or anyone else has ever said that standards writers ever said those precise words I believe they were M they were mistaken but just because Thomas Kenny is capable of making a true statement does it mean he has any idea what we who object to the standards as written are talking about look I'm going to give the standards writers the benefit of the doubt and assume they meant well when they wrote quote examine the various duties and trades performed by slaves for example agricultural work painting carpentry tailoring domestic service blacksmithing Transportation clarification

043one instruction includes how slaves develop skills which in some instances could be applied for their personal benefit close quote let's be charitable and assume they were just trying to soften the teaching of slavery so that 11 and 12y old boys and girls wouldn't be too ashamed that their ancestors treated people cruy I actually think that might be a reasonable assumption nevertheless that clarification nonsense not only gives a wrong impression ah slavery wasn't so bad the words were totally unne necessary and and when the clarification passage is found offensive by every black person and by every white person whom you might think of as anti-racist or anti-slavery the solution is simple commissioner Manny Diaz instead of doubling down should admit the mistake and delete the stuff about benefits apologize and delete those words nobody needs those

044words and everybody hates those words thank you thank you Mr Lipton uh Gregory Ross and then Betsy D benedetto good evening board thank you for the opportunity to provide public comment my name is Gregory Ross I'm a Florida resident of 50 plus years and a current resident of Bard County Florida for the last 23 years during that time I've also spent two decades commuting to and working right here in Indian River County over that 23 year time period I've watched both Bard and Indian River County grow from Sleepy Little rural counties into sprawling Suburban entities I've also watched the politics of this area regress from reasonable to ridiculous in particular the school boards of both Counties have regressed from embracing the future and of and potential of Education to worshiping the dark implication of the

045Jim Crow era what else have I observed in Bard and Indian River County School boards I've observed school board members who do not seem to understand science data statistics the very Foundation of our society I've observed Schoolboard members who fail to grasp the concept of root causes to issues I've observed Schoolboard members some with medical degrees who do not understand or deliberately pricate Public Health measures such as masks and vaccines I've observed school board members publicly lie about their words actions intense and historical facts I've observed school board members who not who do not seem to understand a School District budget or how discretionary funding works I've observed Schoolboard members aligned with extremists bigots racists and fascists Who hide behind words like Freedom Liberty Patriot and rights I've observed full school board members who fail

046to grasp that their evangelicalism is extremism I've observed school board members who not understand the implications or effects of their decisions I have observed school board members waste precious District resources time and energy on rid ridiculous non-existent culture War issues instead of focusing on improving education in our schools for all students I've observed school board members push radical unfounded illogical non-scientific and asinine garbage fed to them from undereducated extremists named Jennifer Pippen and Tiffany Justice and last but not least I've observed week after week after week certain school board members put politics ahead of students now one might ask why is a Bard County resident here in Indian River County speaking to this school board I'm here for two reasons one to let the reasonable citizens of Indian River County know you are not alone

047in this fight against extremism and bigotry and two to inform the school board of Indian River County and the extremists aligned with them that they are being watched their actions and words are being documented and we will be fighting back in the courts and the polls thank you thank you Betsy D benedetto and David Flint thank you hi I attended the last school board meeting was concerned by so many of the public cont comments first of all many of the comments were congratulating the board by the way they dealt with dealing with the books that contain porn and criticized moms for Liberty's action as a stunt it didn't have to have to be that way most of the books in which excerpts were read were presented to the board more than a year ago they

048could have been removed at that time but they weren't why some speakers referred to moms for Liberty as a group that promotes hate that is so far from the truth they support parents rights in the education of their children they don't want books containing porn in our school libraries no one is Banning books if somebody feels the need to read these books they can go to the library or the bookstore calling moms a hate group is actually promoting hate why do so many people here want to our kids to be sexualized at a younger younger age I don't understand it then there there was those that spoke about the Florida standards of teaching black history most seemed focused on the statement that some slaves benefited from skills learned while slaves again no one's saying slavery

049was a benefit to Slaves but only that some learned skills that did benefit them when they became free it also seemed that some want to promote the idea that slavery was ingrained from the beginning I question whether they would teach how a slave ship was turned away in Massachusetts or the role of the Quakers to rid this land of slavery even before we became a country would they include efforts to rid or at least limit this country of slavery with the act of prohibiting importation of slaves in 1808 the Missouri Compromise which bans slavery north of the 36th parallel the role of the the Underground Railroad in of course the Civil War would they include the explanation of the 35 compromise to be that it was to be done to curtail the power and influence

050of the slave states and not to call a slave a three-fifths of a person would they want included in black history courses how Southern Democrats formed the KKK and the role they played in the violence and limit of opportunities for blacks after the Civil War would they teach this despite the efforts of many Democrats who want to revise history and bury their history of repression segregation violence and murder would they teach that woodro Wilson was a racist he fired nearly every black federal employee segregated government facilities racially and did nothing to stop the lynching of blacks I just hope that those that speak with concerns about the standards want good good and bad both included thank you very much David flint and then Jennifer Pippen good evening board thank you for allowing me to be

051here to speak my name is David Flynn I'm the father of several children enrolled in schools here in inder county and tonight I am here uh to support a campaign by equality Florida parenting with pride every student protected and every family respected and this is how it should be in a public education system every student should be protected and every family should be respected I stand with the quality and Florida and calling for school boards across the state to provide guidance around the don't say gay Bill and its expansion through high school I call for a stopping of the Banning of books of inclusive literature and of African American history and to provide a thoughtful and thorough process and procedure for how to challenge materials and resources without uplifting bigotry and without removing books from

052access to all students I ask our board to continue to refuse to allow extremist material like prageru which was approved by the state for use in schools I ask our board to continue to resist the Florida's in Florida's inappropriate African-American history standards our students deserve deserve to be taught honest and accurate history I call on this board to embrace and act as if they actually value the safe respectful inclusive education policy that was enacted earlier this year I know that two of the members were not at that meeting um but it is no less a policy that is enforced by this board I do want to thank the board for the proclamations that were read earlier this evening the proclamation of H OST education week is is dear to me I have friends in Israel

053um who live there now that are in Jerusalem as as missiles and and Rockets are flying into Israel it is of deep concern to me and it's part of my history and and concern and so when we we look at that uh Proclamation and we we look at how we should remember the millions murdered and persecuted the people who were uh victims of the Nazi regime regime and the next phrase says through education we can learn to respect all people and protect Democratic institutions and values that's a very powerful statement and it aligns with a safe respectful inclusive education policy that this board has passed but it's not what we see in the aforementioned social media comments from certain board members we see disdain for African-American history we see disdain for uh the lgbtq Community

054we see disdain for teachers we see disdain for parents standing up for their rights and that is unacceptable and it's a violation of the policies created by this board and the proclamations said tonight we need to do better thank you thank you Mr Flint Jennifer Pippen and then Ren Rob good evening my name is Jennifer Pippen and I'm the proud chairman of moms for Liberty here in Indian River County I first wanted to say um I know I sent you guys an email and complimented this board at the superintendent's Workshop I thought that was one of honestly the best meetings in the past three years that I've been coming and speaking to this board so I know I sent you all an email but I wanted to tell you publicly as well that was a

055very wonderful meeting you guys got a lot accomplished and it was very successful for the entire District including the children I also wanted to say congratulations to the homecoming kings and queens in the courts everybody had a wonderful time um and with having a daughter as a senior we got nothing but compliments from everything um across the board and all of their friends had a wonderful time so thank you for that and um finally I would like to compliment the Sebastian River High School library um we've had a lot of compliments about that too and um again my daughter and son's friends come up and me and say Mom I know you got a lot of those you know books out of the schools the bad books but you got to come see this Library

056it's amazing and they're excited about having coffee there and things like that so I wanted to highlight um those wonderful things that are going on in the district and I also uh now would like to address some of the things that were said this evening everybody absolutely has the First Amendment right to speak and say what whatever they would like but they do need to stick to the facts and the stats of what moms for Liberty and myself and parents grandparents and community members have accomplished in the school district so yes we absolutely did um fight for um health and medical freedom for all students not just some students so yes we absolutely absolutely did that here in this District um we also eliminated the lgbtq administration guide that is now tied to statute that

057allowed boys in the girls bathroom girls in the boys bathroom overnight field trips and whatnot again for all students to be safe um and I disagree with uh aligning with equality Florida um they have gone against the parental rights law the parental rights and education law and they only stand for a small portion of students the lgbtq community and not all students students if we're going to talk about taking care of an entire district and all students and all parents community members and grandparents it's not just a small portion again equality Florida look it up lgbtq students and families only and yes if we're going to continue to talk about books um we were um very efficient in the local level and the state level at getting pornography sexually explicit content critical race Theory social

058emotional learning and all unfounded theories removed not just in this this District but across the state and moms for Liberty we will continue to serve on committees locally and at the state level to make better changes for school districts and everybody across the state thank you thank you Miss Pippen Ren Rob and the Melissa Kel's berdick good evening school board members my name is Ren Rob I'm speaking to the attack on public education let me start by saying I love teaching I've been doing it for over 35 years but now I'm saddened by political attacks on our school board I'm saddened by Fringe radical attention getters who are trying to destroy public education I'm saddened by school board members who think it's okay to suggest that Democrats wear masks in association with the Klux Clan

059I've worn a mask I'm not a member of the clan it was an ignorant and racist post the school board member thought it was funny I don't find it funny do you our African-American sisters and brothers don't find it funny teachers don't find it funny if a teacher said what this school board M said that teacher would be immediately terminated a Palm Beach principal lost his job as he should have for suggesting the Holocaust was a hoax perhaps hypocrisy and double standards are alive and well in Indian River County I'm saddened by the plate of teachers the profession is disappearing teachers are being overwhelmed by useless government initiatives and leave they quit well-intentioned but untrained guest Educators fill our classroom this undermines our children's education some people say they support teachers they just don't like

060unions they probably don't realize that Union Shaped America our Union has our Union irca has by far done more to elevate the school district than any government or administrative organization if you say you don't like teachers unions you're saying that you don't care if teachers have a survivable paycheck you're saying that you don't care if Educators have affordable medical insurance and Health Care administrators too you're saying that you don't care if Educators have an affordable retirement plan you're saying you don't care if your children have a safer environment in which to learn because without teachers unions those things don't exist if you say you don't like teachers unions you're saying that you don't like teachers I'm sadden that we're trying to change history our enslaved ancestors are being dismissed because it might offend some white

061people suggesting that their enslavement somehow benefited them is ridiculous and racist I'm sadden that we are con condemning our LGBT Q children to a life of persecution as if they don't already get enough discrimination and hate directed at them thank you Mr Rob thank you thank you Melissa Kel berdick and Anthony [Music] Brown thank you for the consideration of a classical track for Indian River County I reviewed the workshop comments and hope to best address some of the questions raised by board members my comments at last school board meeting last month received a lot more traction than I expected many in the community reached out to me regarding my comments and the possibility of more school choice for parents I'm very encourage encouraged by the unanimous support of school board members to further explore the

062idea one of the Schoolboard members mentioned that making this work would be cutting edge and I totally agree it's the type of move that makes legacies and there is a national shift towards classical private and Charter Schools even as of today I've heard about the expansion of glendell Christian School on the new k through2 campus so why not do go through the public school system as well some of the member concerns had to do with non-cariogenic May and should be compatible with an attitude of sincere respect for all religions the philosophy of John dwey the father of progressivism is categorically incompatible with such an attitude according to Dewey quote Public School cannot be neutral it is the church where the gospel of secular humanism is propagated end quote so I challenge you to consider that

063a religion is already within the public education Arena classical re establishes absolutes it teaches respect for all ideologies shared knowledge enables us to work together to understand one another to make coherent informed decision and it builds communities yet Dewey is the driving force of public education critics believed and still believe that under Dewey's educational system students would fail to acquire basic academic and skills and knowledge and that is where we are today one only has to look at the American Education landscape to see that root to fruit has yielded little crops educational standards have eroded away along with meritocracy the marginalized group communities have suffered the most under this model in education in this room the disparities are being aired monthly yet the progressive model of education has built these very systems of inequality and

064bias within education so humanism progressivism deism it's a world viw classical education has no need of a defense as it stands equally with humanism as a world view one has dominated the public education Sphere for 50 years and it's failed classical education equips the mistreated and oppressed to challenge their oppressors without destroying their own Community classical education unapologetically warrants the same consideration in the public school Arena as the Church of progressivism to quote Aristotle all who have meditated on the art of governing mankind have been convinced that the fate of Empires depends on the education of their youth so I ask you to continue your search for classical education it's not a religion it's it's a philosophy and a worldview and welcome back Mr Barefoot thank you thank you Anthony Brown and Kevin Browning good

065evening board Anthony Brown uh first and foremost I've said constantly that you are the custodian you have custodial care of our children but I'm conflicted in recent weeks and months as we have people Madam chair on our board who are devout uh caught up in uh stuff that's not relevant to our children they're conspiracy theorists and from their own mind mouths and their own post they homop phobic they're sexist and they're bigoted but then again we didn't vote for them also we have a person on our board who was elected to serve a African the biggest largest African-American community in Indian River County who's never met with them but who's aligned and embedded with an organization that the Southern Poverty Law Center says is one of the most dangerous entities In America which is in

066Florida but this who represents us in our community I'll digress I have a document that all of you sign board members is p124 and I hope you're famili with it's the standards of ethical conduct for board members I hope you remember it it says members of the school board recognize their individual duty to promote and best the best interest of the district Public Schools as a whole and each board member shall adhere to the following educational ethical standards just a couple board members value the worth and dignity of every person The Pursuit Of Truth Devotion to Excellence the acquisition of knowledge the nurturing of democratic citizenship essential for the achievement of these standards are the freedom to learn and to teach and to guarantee the equ equal opportunity for all you sign find this document

067I could go through every aspect of it but I don't think some of you read it we have to sit here over and over and listen to a dysfunctional group tell us that we benefited from slavery and we supposed to go along with it we have to go I want to know I heard the proclamation earlier about the Jewish people in our country how many of you going to stand up and say the Jews uh benefited from the atrocities that were bestowed upon them in concentration camps but you want me to be happy to say that oh certain aspects of slavery benefited me and I was able to use them we were doctors neurosurgeons we were Educators we were everything in this world before we were enslaved and brought to America so don't give yourself

068credit that you don't deserve we were a people we had a religion we had culture we had everything but you demonize us and not respect us for who we are and what we are no we will not go quietly and we would not let you ban zix crats not Democrats was what you're talking about thank you Mr Brown nope nope nope not gonna have that Kevin Brownie and then Thomas Kenny good evening board superintendent chairman Dr Jones as always Dr Jones thank you so much for your leadership and professionalism you know it's quite interesting that there was a proclamation on bullying red so I'd like to ask how do we out the noise and the divide and conquer tactics the noise of book bans and attacks on diverse authors and subjects to include Rosa Parks

069Roger Clemente Dr Martin Luther King and others lgbtq attacks attacks on teachers labeling them as groomers or pedophiles or attacking diversity equity and equality saying that people benefited from slavery or that the violence and murder in Rosewood and okoi was perpetrated by the black victims or by not saying anything regarding anti-semitic flyers in the community and now some want to bring an Evangelical teaching to the schools to bring their ideology remember all religions have rights so maybe we can get the government to put enough tax dollars in for all religions to take a part when I was at a school the Satan group came to use the school and their argument was well you have the churches in the schools so remember which road you're going down it is so sickening that someone think they

070can walk in here and tell black people how they should feel about the inhumanity suffered in this country going along those lines I think these same people would tell a domestic violence Survivor how it benefited them or they tell a rape victim that they should appreciate what they went went through or a home invasion victim maybe they learned how to protect themselves we ask you to keep supporting each other as well as the unions the teachers unions and the support staff Union thank you teachers for your work unions provide a better wage and a living environment for themselves and their families and for the good of the community kindness for all thank you thank you Mr Brownie Mr Kenny and then Michael Marsh how youall doing tonight I'll reserve some of the other comments I

071have for the uh discussion item um I just want to say today I was really happy to see when I turned on the workshop the uh thing on the Roberts Rules of Order the teaching it was awesome I encourage everybody in this room to watch it uh if you haven't or you didn't see it live and the discussions that were have that were had they were was very enlightening on how things actually work in our government whether it's here at this board here at the County Commission or even amongst federal or state it's just awesome and I want to thank that we do have Sydney here on board full-time now and doing a marvelous job his comment about the constitutional of public comment was really enlightening because we get so narrowly focused sometimes we forget

072about our constitutional rights and he very clearly stated that about speaking to come here and be able to petition I think that's the most important thing you know sometimes we think Civility and debate are too different things but debate can be emotional it can be important we have to hear and so I just want to thank you for your clarity about the law and everything that you stand for which brings me sort of to a petition because I did a little research through the uh Children's Services advisory committee at the commissioner level and I noticed something about um The Learning Alliance and their quarterly funding for a social emotional learning officer in 2122 and it really was tough because it had to do with early development and it was basically the castle uh social emotional

073learning that was being paid $53,000 a year this uh officer who was working directly with teachers and had a very specific role in monitoring and working with the teachers in implementing seal now in 2223 that that seemed to have changed with the laws handed down uh through the legislature which is a good thing but there was one person that they did run a lot stuff through here at sdirc named uh Randy granach who was the social emotional learning coach and I want to know myself does this position still exist number one and number two are are we still uh teaching this stuff because a lot of people tend to say that this stuff's not being taught well public records has shown otherwise okay and so with that I'll yield back to you guys and thank

074you once again for hearing our petitions thank you Michael Marsh and then Kenneth Simmon thank you than yes sir good evening he turned in his form John I'll mock at you he turned it in before me so he should have gone first he came from North Carolina fire fire fire help he turned in his form John Al mauku he wasn't called please alert Jones or I will shout out what is that you ask well that through public records not complete and I put my 5-day notice in because there's one problem with these text messages through the chair this was from board member Rosario's phone but we don't know who the other person is now apparently we have to play a game of Wordsmith with the custodian now we do have an lawyer here tonight and

075I'm sure after my most recent public records requests that the game will stop and we'll know exactly who the person from the stands that was controlling the puppet strings I want it I put the school district of Indian River County on a 5-day notice I don't know all the wording but maybe we can actually ask the real attorney that we have here of why this is redacted and I want my refund school district of any River County I was told it took 20 minutes press a screenshot how long does that take it ain't 20 minutes I want my $1 and 99 Cents back thank you very much now if you turn your attention to the other document I was told that this is not board business what is this I have you asked well this

076is the cool parent pledge you can do if you want to join moms for insanity and on this document we have a board member's name let me read it to you it actually says printed name through the chair Jacqueline Rosario title School Board member through public records I have asked who decides if this is board business it says School Board member sounds like board business God forbid through the chair if it was the chair or vice chair signature I would have it in real time instantaneously again school district has been put on a 5-day notice and I will send this after the board meeting so you all can C so either a someone forged School Board member or B I ain't getting the public record request I'm going to need that please now let's move

077on we'll get on to some good news do you know what happened at Friday's game we made sure we were best bu kids did you know through the chair that our superintendent and our Indian River County Sheriff as well as Safety and Security made sure we have metal detectors split the cost of $60,000 ladies and gentlemen that's what Best Buy kids looks like but you didn't hear about it you know why because I'm sure the sheriff and superintendent they don't have to brag about what they do day in day out so again thank you to our superintendent and thank you Sheriff Eric flowers and before I leave unfortunately there's no puppet in the room team moonshot baby thank you Mr Marsh Kenneth Simmon and then Valerie Brandt although I had okay although I haven't had

078any of my own offspring in public school here my mother taught for about a decade in beIN Elementary and the largest portion of my property taxes goes to the coffers of the operations of the county Public Schools so I've come before you with consideration of gaining a bit of cost benefit analysis of how that money is spent with regard to the educations of these 177,000 plus children under your care one topic of discussion which was brought to your attention a few months ago had to do with schools here and all across the state falling out of compliance with the law requirements regarding the daily amount of physical activity students were to be allowed in order to refresh and relieve them during those long intervals seated at a desk inside their classrooms I guess as to

079why this phenomena of dropping such large amounts of intended physical exercise through this throughout the state concurrently is that it may be due to student behavior problems that arise when teachers or other adult supervisors are not scanning over them if children or adults do not have a righteous moral code within their consciences to govern them independently in their social interactions unnecessary acts of shod and Freud and including violence are likely to follow them once again I petition you to consider some things I observed which seemed to work us through such problems satisfactorily over a half century ago in the fourth grade I was appointed to be a patrol boy on the school playground at that time in that state the school day began as the teacher would call on one of us to stand beside

080her desk and read aloud a Psalm from the B bble then we would all say the Lord's Prayer together the golden rule was written out the first day of school across the chalkboard and this was taught as our rule for Behavior now let's compare a certain social situation with or without these meditations and prayers instilled in students for example let's say the children are about to be released for an exercise break on the playground or Athletic Field one child calls another one a monkey just as they were about to be dismissed from class class on the way through the Halls the same perpetrator calls the persecuted one a monkey once more and as they are outside without sufficient adult supv vision the same offensive remark is repeated now the other students say are you going

081to take that and shoving and punches are exchanged and maybe even if others begin to take sides a gang fight ensues now consider if those children had the sublime moral teaching of the Golden Rule and the Lord's Prayer instilled in their thought life in their classrooms as part of opening exercises before other activities of the day began there would be some reflections of equity and forgiveness and of the ethical God who is their heavenly father and supreme judge of the world the Peaceable fruit of righteousness might propagate rather than thank you very much evil thank you all right next speaker is Valerie Brandt [Music] thank you good evening and thank you um in the River County School Board District I stand before you as Valerie brand Wilson a descendant of enslave people I stand before

082you today this evening as a for for retired educator in in River County who has put more than 35 years in this institution I also stand before you as a former guidance counselor I stand before you as a person who taught botany zoology biology and Marine Biology so I stand stand before you as a thinking person and that's what public education should be all about it should be about teaching students to think not regurgitating what someone want that student to know I have my notes Here I asked some former history teachers and I'm so glad to see you R standing before us how how would you be teaching today's lesson in in River County one teacher responded I wish I had written these words but this is what she told me to tell to say

083American history should be taught as if we're learning about the ancest ancestry of our own individuals family in other words we don't choose where we are born like All Families of this planet Earth there are families that are good and bad America is good and bad and we heard that tonight so to understand where we come from as individuals as a nation we must look at both aspects we are after all a nation of Multicultural peoples people that have merged through time to become one nation a very unique Nation my father fought in World War II he fought in the Korean War we we is what make us strong to eliminate any part of our history whether it is the part that is genocides of the original n natives of America the imagination of Italians

084Irish Chinese and Etc as a segment of our history includes slavery you cannot erase it you can avoid it this history and didn't happen thank you Miss [Music] brand all right that concludes our citizen input for the general comments board members anyone like to say anything any comments from board members okay thank you very much to all of those who spoke tonight all right the next item on the agenda is approval of the consent agenda items chair calls for a proper motion to approve the consent agenda items as amended make a motion okay Miss Rosario makes a motion second second any discussion all in favor of the approval of the consent agenda item as amended please signify by saying I I I anyone oppose okay that vote carries 5 Z thank you very much our

085next item on the agenda will be the consent items that were pulled to action items I have a few speakers so I will keep double-checking that so I don't miss anyone all right our first item Miss rarel 5A District strategic plan I see no citizen input on that one so recognize Dr Moore for his report and recommendation pulled from consent to action on 5A the district strategic plan mad Cher you have two people standing up there oh I'm sorry I put on the form I the form M says consent okay all right thank you Mr KY and Mr Marsh just want to double check budddy any item okay go ahead Mr Marsh and then Mr Kenny thank you this is on the district strategic plan thank you very much Michael Marsh proud chairman of Mike

086for Liberty Indian River County chapter and um you know the work is good work will continue to be good and there's systems in place for the district strategic plan so we here at Mike for Liberty ask that you adopt it approve it we're all in favor and God bless thank you thank you Mr Marsh Mr Kenny um I want to refer to the uh District strategic plan and the two weeks ago the the workshop regarding the discussion of it and how it came to be a consent item which has now been moved to action um when I ran for school board back in 22 I really had an issue with the discipline under climate under the climate section section two and how it talked about ratios of bringing um races in line one to one

087concerning discipline because I believe discipline is an individual caseby casee basis and you're never going to have uh outcomes that are perfect amongst groups you're just not and so this uh strategic plan District strategic plan continues in the use of uh racial quotas which is a form of segregation people say it's not because we live in an affirmative action reality but when you do something to the benefit of one group over another whatever groups they are that's a segregating policy and it doesn't fall amongst Equal justice before the law it cannot it is impossible so to say you're going to move a quoted out from uh 31 basis points to 2.0 on a ratio scale in terms of discipline amongst racial groups is ridiculous it's false there's nothing equal about it because you are demanding

088that the school and a discipline action is looked through a racial lens and not a Justice lens that's disgusting there's been a lot of talk about racial equality here tonight already and yet we're going to unanimously approve something that continues a practice that's been going on for way too long so I would ask that the board change that before they adopt this proposal and this plan this evening thank you very much thank you Mr Kenny okay Dr Moore thank you madam chair uh the item before you is our district strategic plan the Strategic plan is looking at simple updates based on shifts in uh State accountability as well as board feedback during our our last session the changes or modifications were made based on board feedback and that concludes my item um you were doing

089so well you were doing so well um so to present the item uh and kind of highlight some of the changes I'll ask our chief of staff to review the item and then it'll come back to me thank you good evening through the chair tonight I will review with you um the information that was also shared at our recent board Workshop in relation to the revisions that were made during this annual update to the district strategic plan initially uh one of the just easy changes that you'll see is that we did a refresh of some of the um pictures and um different pieces that we highlighted through pictures for a district strategic plan in addition based upon recent statutory changes we ensured that all of the language aligned within the or all the language in

090the Strategic plan is aligned with State requirements on page six of the district strategic plan based upon board member feedback and the known priority for safety within our schools we have changed the uh Focus area number two for Equity culture and climate to safety culture and climate more recently and a little bit differently than what was presented at Workshop I did highlight it in the revision that you received we wanted to ensure that we were clearly communicating to both our students as well as our staff that safety culture and climate is just important for students as well as staff so that particular Focus area indicates to cultivate safe respectful supportive school and work environments which are inclusive with regard to Targets on page seven at the top of those targets you will see a Target

091two Targets that are focused in on early learning previously we had a Readiness Target that was based upon the flickers which is no longer utilized and we've aligned those two Targets um with our state assessments that we are currently using in addition we have added targets um other than rankings that will indicate the percentage of students that are on our are above grade level in the different areas of English English language arts as well as mathematics you will see that within safety culture and climate we have moved the fsat target from organizational and fiscal responsibility to safety culture and climate as that's where it fits best now and it's the most comprehensive measure we have of our compliance with safety requirements in our schools at the bottom of page seven some feedback was given to

092clearly delineate which Essa every student succeeds act subgroups we have within our district and that we measure within our district we have added a footnote that clearly identifies Essa as the every student suceeds act and also indicates the eight subgroups that the school district of in River County um has currently based upon our subpopulations on page 10 you will see that there was some feedback regarding the African-American achievement plan and why this was incorporated within our district strategic plan I have provided at the top of page 10 the um reference to the 2018 joint plan and then the rationale for incorporation of the district strategic plan basically indicating that we are ensuring clear alignment of continuous improvement work as well as wanting to communicate the district's commitment to addressing the issues outlined through the 2018

093joint plan on page 12 you will see I have clarified and provided um a definition of risk ratio there was a question on what risk ratio was as well as at our board Workshop there was a question raised regarding the risk ratio in page six of the joint plan section six it indicates that our African-American achievement plan should include um targets related to discipline disparities so just to provide and put that rationale out there of why that was originally incorporated into our dis our African-American achievement plan it was aligning that work with requirements outlined through the 2018 joint plan then on page 16 we have slightly modified Target 4.1 for the African-American achievement plan as you all are well aware we have a sdrc NAACP work group this originally was a retention rate target however

094that work group has identified that the key performance indicator they would like to closely monitor is the renewal rate so in alignment with the work that's being done this was modified to measure the renewal rate for African-American instructors page 21 you'll just see that Target reflected now in the chart for the annual targets and I think that summarizes um all of the changes that we've made based upon this annual update thank you Dr J Jacobs and just to to summarize um as it relates to the risk ratio it is found in the African-American achievement plan uh it is part of the 2018 joint plan which is a a federal court case in which we're involved in so I this is the recommendation took the feedback of the board uh found the most appropriate place in

095order to incorporate that information and still be in compliance with the Federal court so this is my recommendation as it stands thank you thank you Dr Moore so Bard I will need a proper motion and then I I pull this item for a reason yeah I'm going to get a proper motion then a second to go into discussion for an action item so a proper Motion state your motion and the discussion and then we will go into discussion so I need a proper motion for this do you want to do that Miss Rosario sure I make a motion to bifurcate the vote for the approval of the district strategic plan okay is there a second I'll second it okay discussion yes so um one of the reasons why I'm asking to bifurcate this is to

096just separate the targets uh we do not have a lot of the information there is some pending data that still has not been provided for us so when you approve the achievement plan I'm sorry when you approve the district strategic plan um you're also approving it with the targets that are in there but if you do not have the full data for all of the targets then you're approving something that you don't know what is to come so at what point will we we receive this data so we're still pending Ela data and certainly a lot of this has to do with the doe uh but we also don't have a lot of data for the African-American achievement plan um a lot of this information is all pending here um some of the Baseline information

097um african-amer white non-hispanic uh achievement Gap um the graduation rate Gap the Middle School course acceleration all of that is pending information plus you also have the safety culture and climate also pending and then there are several other items so if you're going to approve it approve it all correctly or let's just bifurcate it for now approve the district strategic plan and hold off on the actual targets until the data is provided okay any discussion sure miss Borg um I understand that however these are targets and um when you make a Target or a goal you're looking at what do we want to achieve not what information do we have now I understand that we don't have all the data yet um knowing that the doe is just a just put out cut scores correct

098the chair what Mr Rosario is saying is is correct we do not have scores I can't provide you scores that I don't have so we have set targets based on um the best information that we have available and once they release the percent of students that are proficient in ela in math we will now be able to adjust our targets so the the intent was to go back and say we will update the board this plan comes before the board um every quarter so we'll have the opportunity to say when the state finally releases this information these would be the new um cut scores which ultimately the board would in fact approve okay so um knowing that then um I understand you know the concern about not having data but I also know that we

099keep visiting this quarterly and we use this for your evaluation so I understand that it's only fair to you as well as to the district we put something out there and then we can adjust it as we get data but I think it's important that we at least start with something Madam shair yes go ahead Dr Jacob you want to add response to the item sure so we did anticipate that this would be a point of conversation the state did just approve cut scores however we do not have the additional information that we need in order to um clarify some of the the rankings and data from last year however we very clearly in this item you'll see in the public facing information that it should be noted that FLD dooe has yet to release

100the recalibrated results from the 2223 Spring State assessments given this any changes in spr out spring outcomes due to recalibrated scores will be updated in the district strategic plan once this information is received so we've clearly outlin that these are not the the recalibrated scores we and don't have some of them addition addition Al for things like graduation rate we do not get those scores until December um so those will not be received uh even probably at the time we received the other achievement data okay Dr P any questions um I would just say that the uh the members points are well taken and um I think it's it's it's a good topic of discussion but um I would just vote to approve it and uh we can always change things as needed and I

101I think with the item as it is written it is doing what Miss Rosario um is is requesting of course she can clarify but I think with that additional statement we do in fact acknowledge that we have to bring it back to the board once we have that information available Mr Barefoot um I agree with Dr PCA that's I just want to say before we go back around um you know superintendent has reviewed as much data as we have and we have a lot of specific information and the one thing I always about when you see a Target we may have hit that Target so now we've got an increase so I think this is a good beginning we've usually done it like this as far as the Strategic plan I mean that's a plan

102that is fluid you keep moving forward with it so that's how I feel Miss Rosario uh yeah just a point of clarification the goals it was stated that the goals are in there and that the goals are meant to be reached there are no goals there where there is a pending there are no goals it's not even like a guesstimate so I just wanted to be clear that there are are no goals for 2024 in many of these areas um clearly there are there's no data in some of this area but of the only item of the only data that I'm aware of that comes late is the graduation rate everything else if we have it here then why not just hold off until the next meeting we have it somewhere and we're wait waiting

103we do not have it on a typical Year yes graduation rate is lagged as is the acceleration components which is based on gradu ation rate because the state is calibrating the scores for the new assessment we are still we don't know what a level three is we don't know what scores our student got uh received based on the new scale scores the state at its last board meeting approved this the new scale scores themselves but they're yet to release the scale scores the students earned so I I cannot tell you there that's why the information is pending um but at the end of the day um this is a or one of the most aggressive strategic plans that are out there it is the only strategic plan that is 100% aligned to my my evaluation

104I I acknowledge and I wish that I could give you the information um but I can't give you what I don't have and I need to push and inform and support and support the organization towards working towards these goals so it it is a very odd year that we're in because we just don't have the data available um but we're working the strategies and we will set the goals uh once we have the information in order to set them but they're still going to be extremely aggressive okay any more discussion on Miss Rosario's motion yes Miss Bor yeah on page 12 um where it says uh Target AAP 2.2 decrease African-American white disparities in classroom removals to risk ratio of 2.0 thank you for clarifying that Dr Jacobs I appreciate that um I know when

105um I ran for office one of the things I did was go through the deseg order and that met with the attorney and wanted to know exactly what we had to do by law um or that we were going to have to do because of this deseg order so I know I appreciate the fact that it's in there because that's part of our African-American plan so thank you all right Miss Rari would you please repeat your motion and then we'll vote on that she paid attention to the um I will withdraw my motion okay um so that because obviously there isn't support for it so I will withdraw the motion okay um do I have to make a formal do I have to say it a specific way no just withdrawing the motion okay all

106right so then we're back to the main motion which is approval of the Strategic plan so I need someone to make a proper motion please all right Dr P second and second miss barenborg any discussion on the Strategic plan right all in favor say I please I thank you anyone opposed okay that carries 5 Z thank you all right the next consent item pulled to action Miss Rosario 5H amended business minutes have Mr Marsh and then he's the only one on that one thank you thank you very much Michael Marsh NAACP 5151 B and I'm just a little confused I I thought we had discussion at Great length in the prior school board meeting as far as um the minutes being accurate so I'm a little confused but I look forward to hearing more discussion

107on this item especially after our Roberts Rules of Order training thank you thank you Mr Marsh and Dr Moore this was your item thank you madam chair This was um as we just stated a item that was brought up at the last board meeting ensuring that we follow the appropriate process to document the change of the minutes and I'll ask our school board attorney who looked at the information and and brought it back to us in order to ensure that we had it accurate all right okay so and this was the topic at Great length at the Roberts rules Workshop today so 22822 uh during the business meeting there was a vote on uh whether to remove certain books and whether to keep certain books and the vote was 4: one uh in favor of

108keeping most of the books that were objected to at the time uh as I understand it going back and looking at the minutes and having heard from the various participants while it reflected a uh at that time a 32 vote and uh there were double votes and one person inadvertently shown as as a nay uh Ms Rosario brought back recently uh the issue to uh be corrected on the minutes as she stated under Robert's rules that particular um item would be to to amend an already adopted item more after the original uh meeting at which it was considered when we addressed it at the last month's meeting the item was swept up originally in the consent agenda approval uh M Rosario uh subsequently requested to bring that item back up I was asked what the

109proper procedure was because it was already um part of the consent agenda it could have been an amendment or it could have been a reconsideration I said reconsideration flip a coin and because uh you first had to address the matter having already gone to consent agenda at the same agenda as a result if is I recall um the uh request to uh address that item was voted down three to2 there was at least one comment that uh I believe was Miss barenborg made that said if I had more time to look at it I would be happy to reconsider it uh there as I understand it uh there were two versions of of the minutes one showing a 41 the other showing a strike through and underline uh the Roberts rules uh generally would provide

110for a foot note or an asterisk and in the margin given our format it's um what we have proposed is and actually um our secretary has uh proposed that it be two footnotes uh reflecting that we had the prior vote at the last meeting and that we are correcting it to reflect a 32 so uh at the workshop today we actually asked the Roberts rules person how do we reflect this and she said that the best way to do it was to say that this was part of a consent agenda the last time the purpose of today is to make sure that the uh that that the minutes reflect accurately what we're supposed to do under Robert's Rules so it's legally sufficient correct it appears to be legally sufficient all right so miss rarel this

111was your item pull from consent to action so if you would make a motion please then we need a second for discussion um let me think of what the motion is because I think it also depends on where we go with the conversation um I make a motion to approve the minutes of um February 28 2022 was amended just leave it at that and if we go into discussion okay because I think there's more to it okay so the meet the minutes stated on February 28th you're saying right as amended as amended okay as amended as amended okay we need a second for that before discussion second second Mr PCA now discussion okay thank you for that clarification my question is where are the original minutes so this is why when you said are we

112legally sufficient we might be somewhat legally deficient now but because the original minutes are not supposed to be altered we now have the amended of the original but the original is not here so do we my question is do we need to attach I mean if we're going to be if we're going to rather than because the the question that was raised was about formatting the so the is I understand Robert's rules on this and having looked at this what the intent of this motion is to reflect the original width The annotation so um as far and I frankly I I think the question is asked is um and I don't know literally the answer is if you go back to February 28 what do the February 28 minutes reflect well what well now what

113we have is what would have been February 28th MH if you look at what we have now MH but what we don't have here what what is what was voted on and approved last last meeting that one is what I'm saying should we also attach that one to show progression to show where the edits were made and and edit it again or amend it again that's what I'm said it's just a point of clarity but I know that minutes are very important and so if we're doing an amendment to an amendment right now these don't reflect because we don't see last months and conset and frankly it was something as you recall I asked of the facilitator and she said you should Redline it that's all I heard maybe she didn't understand or anot okay

114or or edit and and frankly I think you could easily because the item is before us and it's all of alike is to Simply amend the motion to say that we would attach those that are being replaced by the accurately uh noted minutes the previously that what we had amended at the last meeting would be would be replaced by this but just a question said you said right now they are legally sufficient right no what we have is legally sufficient I think what Mr Rosario is is saying is is the item before us is correcting the original mistake that was done way back a went in between those two incidents was what we corrected correct last month right and that's the one that's not included here and if we included that then ultimately no matter

115which way you slice this cake we got it all in there just as a backup and and and I would agree that for completeness sake uh amending the motion to specify that because again I asked the facilitator that very question this afternoon was how do we handle it and as I recall what she said was well why don't you make it positive by making the motion say all we're doing is clarifying but I agree that by including that as part of the package the lineage is clear for the record is a whole okay so I just want to so I'm going to make an amended motion but I just want to make sure I say it correctly so I'm going to make a motion to add the um previously approved amended minutes from our previous

116meeting yes ma'am okay okay all right Madame chair yes ma'am are you ready or do we need more do we need more conversation I don't think so okay um I make a motion to amend my motion okay um so my amended motion is to add to these minutes the previously approved minutes from our last meeting okay as a backup okay do we have a second second any discussion all in favor of the amended motion Miss Rosario just made please signify by saying I I I I anyone oppose we're Robert rules experts one one training yeah did you have a comment I'm sorry no okay I'm sorry we good at Robert rules okay that vote carries 5 Z now we have to vote on the motion to amend before we go on back to the main

117motion we've done that so just say that one more time Miss Rosario if you don't mind the original or the amended amended no I think we just voted on the amend okay the original is um I move to I make a motion to approve the current minutes you said the minutes as amended um I'm sorry the minutes as amended okay all right and we've already voted on that second that's the main motion no that was the main second the motion second any discussion all in favor say I I I you all righty our next one consent to action item was approval for the social studies adoption 6A Mr Marsh and then it will be Miss Rosario's item and superintendent before her I'm sorry sorry chair good evening Michael Marsh Professional School Board speaker I just

118want to mention that this was an absolute amazing process I spoke about it the last school board meeting I mean at this point there better not be one soul that comes here to object to anything in social studies because not only did we open this thing up for a committee you could have been a part unfortunately a few dropped off when they couldn't make the chair but it was a great committee I got sick and tired of the emails from cni but at this point I just want to strongly recommend that we approve this 5 because there is nothing more that could have been done now I really hope that in 3 to 6 months when the curriculum and social studies everything's out there that we don't have the same circus of oh wait social

119studies we got a little CRT a little porn in there it was carefully vetted I mean at this point what a year it'll just be about a year by this by the time this thing gets approved now so I just want to say once again it was an absolute um amazing experience to sit on this committee um it was a bit boring at times I'm sorry cni I uh but you know what they gave the opportunity every single piece of social studies I mean I couldn't take anymore I didn't go to the last meeting because there's too much but they allowed us to review every single thing if you want to do elementary M some people were crazy enough to do elementary middle and high school I don't know what they do for a living

120but I mean just Kudos once again I mean we know how hard that division works but as a parent let me just say that again as a parent I really appreciate to know exactly what my beautiful interracial Queens will be learning over there at osell middle school for the last year that they're there but again I look forward to hearing 5 good job cni thank you Mr Marsh Dr superintendent for curriculum instruction Miss berser will present the item even you through the chair good evening um I'm happy to answer any questions about this item this item was briefed with you during individual board briefings I think a couple of times we also did do the workshop um on this item as well I will answer any questions you may have okay well we're going to

121go into a motion and second for discussion so miss Rosario this is your um item yes I make a motion to adopt the instructional materials for social studies for 2024 and 2025 school year okay second second second any discussion oh yes so the reason why I pulled this item is because it was up for um public hearing it's supposed to be an action item not a consent item this is not an item that is routine or something that comes to us on a regular basis so it should actually be in action any comments um Mr ansbacher or Dr Moore no all right discussion all favor adoption of the social studies curriculum please signify by saying I I anyone opposed okay the vote carries 5 Z all right our action agenda the next one action make

122sure that 11a see if anybody's down here Mr Marsh it is the request to set the public hearing we're not doing it but set the public hearing date for Neola policies volume 24 number one and September update thank you madam chair I just want to briefly I know every time that we have these updates um I believe the chair as well as the superintendent um thanks the individual thanks those individual uh departments there I actually took the time to not all of it because that's way too much but I just want to say thank you for all those divisions um we figured out what hco stood for human capital oh we forgot the O Mr Fagan sorry um but that is a lot of work to go through all the policies and have to strike

123through sometimes just one word and some of these divisions that it's literally one person doing the work I can't imagine so just want to continue and say thank you thank you Dr Moore this is your item Madam chair this is the over 80 policies that we are presenting um as discussed during as they were discussed during Workshop based on Workshop there were some board um changes that we made each of those changes were emailed to the board and those changes are cop are attached to the item that's before you uh staff is available by office to answer any questions you may have regarding any specific policy all right I just want to read the information um regarding this action item on October 9th 2023 cabinet members presented and Schoolboard members discuss the new and revised

124board policies the purpose of the revisions is to be consistent with federal and state law the Florida Administrative Code other regulations by fed federal and state agencies applicable Court decisions in attorney general's opinion so at this time we're just setting a public hearing for Neola policies it cannot be in the November meeting because we don't have enough time so these will be brought back to us uh on the December 13th meeting so I need a motion to approve this I'll make a motion motion by Miss barenborg second second Mr Barefoot any discussion yes thank you go ahead there is one item um it is 5782 parent parent uh Guardian notification and permission uh at the bottom of that first page of one of two it says parent Guardian notification permission the last line uh second

125to last line on that page says um overnight lodging comma whether room assignments are not separated by biological sex at Birth um after a discussion with the attorney with the superintendant um we talked about this possibly changing the um the wording to for overnight lodging comma that room assignments are separated by biological sex at Birth it makes a little bit more sense it's a little clearer for parents to understand what what the heck we're we mean when with that statement okay any more discussion on that I would May yes I would I would certainly support that okay so in this case so you're making an amendment to what it says in one of of the the uh policies right correct okay so could you state that Amendment again clearly just so we can all hear

126it again sure um well we're going out to public hearing so I'm not sure if that's amending the public hearing date yeah no that's not what I'm asking for what I'm asking for is before it goes to public hearing um looking at that statement and changing the wording would you repeat the wording good point yeah uh at the last second and last line on page 102 says for overnight lodging this is what we want to change it to uh that room assignments are separated by bi biological sex at Birth any discussion on that so we are approving the public hearing them for December 13th but in the meantime do we need to vote on this Dr Mo or consensus that we would like to have that change before the public hearing you we will make

127that change before posting all right based on how you just described the item thank you Miss Rosario yeah I have another um question okay or possibly a change or an an edit in our last meeting we discussed that when a form is submitted or an objection is submitted by a parent that the it is required by law now that the book be removed within 5 days until a final word or until the book is actually reviewed but and something else that we discussed was notifying the committee within a certain time period so that where the district has to notify the committee within a certain time period to let them know hey we have a book that has just been um challenged that is not in here or at least I didn't see it in the

128edits so we need to have that timeline I'm I'm thankful I mean I want to thank you for for actually adding in that the committee chair of the committee um that the primary role of the chair will be to facilitate the discourse and to establish the timeline of how often the committee will meet but where there's that Gap in between getting the objection and then having that first meeting that timeline we all agreed should be within um and it has not actually been added so I don't know who wants to talk to that yeah I know we talked about but we didn't see the timeline so um we did actually it was agreed to five days so if you have five days remove it then it would be 5 days to notify the committee and

129then there would be a 30-day window between when the committee would set up the first meeting I mean from thereafter obviously once the chair sets up the time timeline that's a different staff respond because they're saying it's on page two so we'll add that in there it's the bottom of page two the bottom five days I I see the five days but I don't see the okay that's when the petitioner I saw that five days but that's not indicating the 5 days for notification of the committee where the district has to notify the committee yes ma'am it just says petitioners completion three day uh three rows up from the bottom three rows up from the bottom so days okay what am I looking at within five calendar days of the petitioner's completion of the specific

130material objection form the superintendent or his or her design and appropriate staff shall notify members of the district objection committee okay sh no notify okay but what happened to that 30-day window where the first meeting is supposed to occur or within the 30 within the 30 days there should be a date set up that we sought Clarity during workshop and we didn't NE I I did not hear that from the board members so so through the through the chair if notifying the committee is one thing but the logistics of pulling the group together we will do it as quickly expeditiously as we possibly can um but if there is one book and nine or 11 people on the committee uh there is some logistical issues do we buy 10 more books that possibly may end

131up being uh withdrawn are there calendar issues with the committee it itself so notifying the committee that there's a possible date is fine getting it on the calendar is is fine but holding true to what there could be a 120 books that were reviewing and to say they can be done in 30 days um setting staff up or the committee up for failure so the recommendation um is as the item is written notify them within the five days as uh Dr shafty just read uh but give us the flexibility to move as fast as we possibly can um with the available the availability of the individuals who are giving up their time as well as the volume of books that we have in order to facilitate the request Miss Rosario yeah so here's where I

132have a concern is that your as soon as possible could be six months I've heard that before and things have not happened until six months later so there should be a minimum or there or there shouldn't be a maximum where you can take for six months so this is this item now belongs to the board um I presented it the best way that I know possible um in order to fully comply with the reality of running a school system and all of the logistical challenges um we will move expeditiously as possible but to have a policy that has a a drop dead date with all of the barriers and obstacles that may present themselves um May mean that staff or myself is in violation of policy Mr Barefoot any I know I'm just going to

133hear from other board members for a minute just add please to that it doesn't have to be a drop dead date nobody said anything about but there is an approximate that within or about 30 days we should have some idea as to when the board when the committee can meet so there's no drop dead date Mr beo any comments if you're only reviewing one book the chances of being able to get the committee together [Music] um you can't force volunteers to be available within a time frame if some of them aren't available that's the problem and if you have multiple requests and you have however large the committee is and this was discussed earlier today offline um it becomes virtually impossible to have a small group of people who are volunteering their time to be

134able to go through X number of books whether we have one copy or five copies or not however big the committee is so this has to be written in a way that provides flexibility acknowledging that there's a book or books that need to be reviewed uh and then asking the chair of the committee to set up a meeting as quickly as possible seems reasonable but it's also seems unreasonable to put a a very specific time frame on when you might be able to get X number of volunteers together at least have a a quorum however you wanted to find a quorum well at this rate there are some books that have been officially objected to and that was probably a month or two ago and so now it's being prolonged and they're not going to

135be looked at until January but but what I my point is just to avoid the delay delay delay but what my assumption and maybe I'm wrong here my assumption is when a book has been challenged it's pulled off the shafts shelf pending review yeah but then when does that review Point order today in Robert's Rules we were told to always address the chair not another board member right thank you very much all right Dr PCA any comments um I mean we we discussed this pretty thoroughly at the workshop I mean I I I don't necessarily think we need to dictate when the book Review Committee would meet uh but I think it would be good if as a district we did have a timeline of when they would be notified that a book was under

136um challenge I think that's something we should have in there um just to prevent unnecessary delays and the one thing I would add is that um is what Mr Barefoot said um when their challeng are off the shelf so nobody's checking them out anyway so I I think that and we've already heard that some people may not want to be on the committee so are going to be forming some new or maybe bringing in some new members I don't know but um since they're off the shelf and nobody can check it out that's where I'm okay but I think we have to trust what the superintendent says that they'll get the committee together and do it as quickly as they can and uh then we kind of go from there miss Barbor yeah one of

137the items that I brought up during this discussion when we had Workshop uh one of the points that I made was it it is hard because they are volunteers however um I'm used to as a volunteer on a committee um having dates that we all agree to at the very first meeting and we say these are the dates that we agree to meet during the year and that was the suggestion I made that when the committee meets after November uh they make those decisions on when their dates are and then when a book is challenged the chair of the committee can say okay our next meeting is February 16th uh make sure that you review this book before we get to that meeting so that's why I suggest that because they are volunteers so I

138agree with it's hard to um make a date certain however um if the committee knows that they have they have committed to be on this committee uh they also have committed to which dates they're going to be and through the chair that that is the process very similar process that the committee established by a drop dead date staff would notify the committee if a book had been challenged for them to meet in the upcoming two-e window on the established date in which they would meet if there were no challenges uh that meeting would be would be cancelled so the committee has now been in place for just under a year just under a year I'm looking for like some kind of validation there okay there you go um and now based on the challenges that

139we just had the two challenges we we we just had we notified um staff committee that possible challenges is coming and there are three staff members who are no longer wanting to serve on the committee so I'm pushing out through our communication system the opportunity to replace those three individuals all right so any more discussion on that point with the timeline Miss Rosario Dr Moore what did you say about the two weeks you said something about two weeks what was that the committee itself uh not in your policy but the committee said uh when there was a book being challenged by identified date staff would notify them that there is a challenge pending if there was no book being challenged by that date then that the upcoming meeting would be cancelled so because there hasn't

140I'm just yeah saying there was a very similar process as Miss barenborg was describing okay um so then another thing that I wanted to bring up was the form the new form that just came out from the doe so on this objection policy there was an indication that the form would be provided by the Florida Department of Education um there were there were some changes to that form from us not very many I think the ISBN number was on there that was not on the Florida Department of Ed and I think something else which is fine it's not a big deal um but I but that form should be here so it's no longer waiting and pending for doe it's now we have it so that has to be changed on here did you change

141it already you did show me where because I may have missed it so the do's form I think I can read your face it's okay the Doe's title of their template is the specific material objection template so we already embedded that in the updated highlighted text that it's no longer reconsideration form it's aligned to the title of the State's new template at the bottom of page two on the same 25 22 take a bre on 2522 M we were calling it in our policies a reconsideration form and we aligned the language to the state everywhere and now it's a specific material objection form okay okay perfect do we have did you do the same thing to 2520 I don't think we cited it in 2520 we said c 2522 so we wouldn't have the so

142you would have okay yeah okay perfect all right so we're back to the action agenda and it seems like the one thing that we do want to happen before it comes up in December was the um information that Miss bort stated regarding the bathrooms I'm going to ask you to repeat that one more time just for the public knowledge all right um policy 5782 page one of two uh second to last line change from over for overnight lodging comma whether room assignments are not separated by biological sex at Birth change that to for overnight lodging comma that room assignments are separated by biological sex at Birth period okay that can be done right Dr Moore that okay and it seems like we have consensus to not put a uh a definite date regarding the timeline

143for the um committee but trust that once a committee is is formed um they will try to do things quickly um and we will trust that that will happen for the most part for me I was okay with it because once you challenge a book it comes off the shelf so we now have an acent agenda requesting to set the public hearing date for Neola policies volume 24 number one for the December 13th meeting with the one caveat that will be changed regarding Miss baren Borg's request need a motion on that I'll make a motion as as amended as what we stated any second second any discussion all in favor please say I I I anyone opposed vote carries five to zero yes I'm sorry but did you say December 13th yes it's the 11th

144is it the 11th I'm sorry it's 13th so Wednesday the 11 okay sorry thank you so much I think November meeting 13th I'm not sure thank you sir appreciate all right our next action agenda is do we know hold on a second um point of order question for the attorney do we need to go back and revote on that since the date was State stated incorrectly yes that's what I thought go back and vote on that item request to set the public hearing date for Neola policies volume 24 number one September and the September update which will be December 11th with the one caveat that that uh wording will be changed at Miss barenborg recommended so I need a motion on that I'll make a motion second any discussion all in favor please say I

145I I I anyone oppos vote carries 5 to zero with a corrected date thank you very much all right the action agenda item next is authoriz a superintendent to explore the classical education model of schooling I have uh Mr Simeon and then Mr Marsh Simmon I'm [Music] sorry I was just informed about the classical education and being introduced through Florida and possibly in our County now and and I was very happy to hear about those things and um I know that uh the way it was formed through Hillsdale College there was a lot lot of emphasis at that school of of civics and social studies especially with understanding our foundational documents of the Declaration and our Constitution and also um as they went back I guess and through history they've seen the evolution and changes

146in public education um I know remembering mcguffy's readers back in the early 1800s 1830s I believe when the first one came out it was to teach children to become autodidactic Learners by learn to read and then read to learn and throughout that book and when he first put it together he was following a maximum of George Washington said let us not think that that National morality can be advanced in the absence of religious principle and he had Bible verses throughout the book and he showed examples in and human interest stories of children um helping one another in special sacrificial ways such as I remember a phot not a photo it was before photos but a drawing of a childood fallen through ice and the others making a chain with their bodies out across the ice

147to pull the child out and and such imagery like that along with the the maxims of um precepts from the New Testament doctrines of love your neighbor as your self do unto others as you'd have it done unto you were emphasized throughout the books and uh in interesting ways of reading and that was an influence on the country and they were the best sellers for they sold Millions even in the 1800s But as time went on uh some other things occurred in the influence of public education and one was a fellow named Horus man who was uh uh someone my mom taught in a school named after him in Ohio and she had I have a mug of HSE with his name on it but he was a investigator of Education throughout Europe from United

148States and he found that the in Prussia their Industrial Revolution advancement was quite spectacular and especially in their schools science and engineering were greatly emphasized and they deemphasized religious principles and he came back and pushed that in our country that we could get away from those things and and it caused a a change but you know what happened in Prussia and eventually became the Third Reich and in the absence of a religious principle what happened they had greater science and engineering than we had they had the atomic Weaponry thank you very much appreciate it Mr [Music] Marsh good evening this one's going to be a no Dr through the chair Dr Moore parents who are looking for an alternative to traditional public schools have an option that fell out of fashion in this country a

149long time ago this is classical education classical education can serve some children Inspire Empower all students classical schools come out a form of private and Charter Schools homeschooling and micr schooling now this document that the individual who brought this up this comes from the man the Manhattan Institute shocker guys guess what it is a conservative organization ah again contemporary classical education segregated black high schools in the early to mid 1900s offered instruction that was heavily influenced by the liberal arts but offered both industrial and classical coursework to their students now there's three stages of this classical education and I just want to focus on the logic stage students in the logic stage begins to read more challenging works now allow them to put these tools to to the test middle school children learn the best

150of the western Cannon studying Timeless works such as Shakespeare plays and novels Like You Ready To Kill a Mocking Bird oh so Kill a Mocking Bird good here no bueno in the libraries now this article continues to go on and it's a great one but I won't bore you with it it's on board docs but conclusion of course classical classical education may not be for every child other school schools may offer more programs for students gifted in areas such as technology or math for example this great article by the Miami Miami Harold was actually written by summer brogal some of you guys may remember her she used to cover up here now Miami D schools on Wednesday gave the okay that was back to June I want to know what Miami dat is doing now

151but apparently this classical you ready for it historical focus on white white Western European and judeo Christian foundations and and demands more virtue of its its inheritance Hillsdale College a politically influenced private Christian College in Southern Michigan that has had a hand in shaping education policies in Florida the item proposed by board member Monica kuchi who was she you guessed it she actually wind up working uh over here in the state right with the santis now I ask you this isn't seeking to impose this curriculum on every student not seeking to mandate it as a norm for the whole District instead it's just as a choice something for parents to consider and a way to possibly increase proficiency levels in the district something she said was a top concern of Education through the chair we

152don't need to look into it don't care what Miami dat has done has anyone here IND River County with the curriculum that we have and the data we have and the numbers we have here why do we need it it's going to be a no you want religion go to private school home schools you can have your religion and Bible thank you thank you David Flint I love following Mike again thank you uh board for allowing us to speak tonight thank you for putting up with all of us um the under this item one of the one of the points Point number four says explore classical education curriculum including but not limited to the Hillsdale College K through2 classical education curriculum Hillsdale College is built on a number of foundational principles from their website they

153speak about in our times in particular we are Riven by Deep disagreement about sex sexual activity and identity for this reason then sexual activity is understood as belonging between two sexes in marriage for procreation reason and the college's Faith independently confirm these truths and require the college to Bear witness to them and M to maintain its own Integrity of Life the college has always organized its practices and policies in accord with the understanding of sex outlined above and continues to do so as a faithful expression of its Mission and its Faith the college will continue to Grant or deny permission sought by students and others as well as to afford the use of college facilities and other assets only for those who conduct whose conduct is consistent with a College's L held beliefs set forth

154above Hillsdale College has a history of being anti-lgbtq Prager is been recently approved in the State of Florida um I thank you for not having that curriculum uh being used in our classroom rooms but there are lessons the Christopher Columbus lesson uh from prageru where Columbus excuses and justifies slavery Hill Hillsdale and Prager are deeply connected um these are two groups who are curriculum writers for many if not most of the classical education models including one being proposed in this action item anti-lgbtq anti- African-American lessons have no place in public schools they are not in alignment with the district policies and we made a we we read a proclamation again earlier tonight that has been mentioned several times both for the Holocaust as well as anti-bullying either we're going to be inclusive as a school

155district or we're not moving to this type of a curriculum setup is not inclusive it's also I question the the use of time with uh Dr Moore and the staff here in Indian nber County there's so many other pressing things we have to be worried about we thank you thank you Mr Flint okay I think that was it on speaking on this item okay the action agenda item this was Miss Rosario's um authorizing the superintendent to explore the classical education model schooling so we need a motion on that in a second before discussion I make a motion to approve the superintendent to authorize the superintendent to explore the classical education model of schooling a second second okay discussion board members oh yes ma'am I'm sorry go ahead you so um thank you all for agreeing

156to this um and so this is just making it more formalized um obviously this isn't a charge to actually start a school or a program at this time it's just allowing the superintendent to explore the options to go out and create an exploratory Committee just to see what it would look like if at all how it would affect us and obviously um if it is a good um um program or thing for us here um then he would obviously bring us an uh recommendation a recommendation I put the recommendation to come to us at our at the first Workshop in January of 2024 in consultation with the superintendent so he is certainly okay with that date actually that was his date um and so uh as you all know um classical education is effective largely

157uh based on its approach to um help students understand um how and when how to learn not what to learn so there are lots of other um styles here and approaches to classical education um many of that is really focused in on um this these three phases that are called Trivium their grammar logic and rhetoric um a long tradition of Education that has uh emphasized seeking after truth goodness and Beauty uh in the study of liberal Arts of great books of uh also studying Latin and um Math and Science and History and Civics um classical Educators deem this ability to think critically pursue truth and engage in civil debate classical education is not for every child neither is Automotive neither is culinary arts neither is um uh vet tech or agriculture or nursing or Aviation

158just like we have so many other Pro uh Pro um programs for students not every program is for every student and I think that's um that's the key here is to have another option of how to reach students in this particular area so the superintendent is charged with uh these nine things and certainly if you wanted to add anything but he is um in full support of these nine are areas again creating an exploratory committee to investigate what is classical education what are the goals the pillars and the models of classical education is is it possible for the school district to open a k through 12 classical education school if so include potential locations ages grades benefits explore classical education curriculum including but not limited to and obviously Hillsdale College is here but surely that

159is not the only uh curriculum investigate and present potential Partnerships with established classical education organizations institutions or those who create the curriculum what are the key components to the curriculum instruction and learning approaches whole discussions with the Department of Education regarding the outcomes probabilities and implications of our district opening a classical education School investigate and present the full Financial impact of opening a classical education school and a full report not limited to the above with any other recommendations that the superintendent might see fit to come before us at the superintendent Workshop in January of 2024 okay um Mr Barefoot any comment no nothing M barenborg sure um couple things um you know I like the fact that Dr Moore has really thought outside the box on a lot of things and um I invite ideas

160um sometimes we agree with them sometimes we don't but I think it's good to explore all ideas especially people that come to the podium we listen to that um the only thing I I um heard tonight was um worried about not disparaging any group um keep that in mind as we look and explore at different options of things but I want to go back to something that was discussed a year or two ago um that I mentioned again in this last workshop and that hasn't really come forward I didn't make an item but I'd like to amend this item to include um looking at a K8 school we have talked about that one of our schools that I I definitely think could expand to a K8 when I I heard today that the property next

161door is available so that's kind of interesting of a potential K8 um a Tech High School to go along with our Technical College um possibly looking at you know gford is right there I don't know that's a that right now is a middle school so um whether or not I've seen a tech school in uh St Lucy that was 8 through 12 so that's kind of a unique idea um and then the other one is a boutique high school that we talked about in the past so these are things that we've talked about talked about in the past and we haven't really they haven't come to fruition so I think now is the time if we're going to look at a classical school also look at these other models to say yay or nay on

162whichever one um because I don't think we should just go down one Avenue we should look at all avenues for all kids and so with that I'd like to amend the motion to say authorize the Stu the superintendent to explore the classical education model of schooling along with a K8 model a technical school model and a boutique high school and I already discussed this with the superintendent he's the one that put the timeline on there so I'm not adding more to his plate than he asked me to do I I'll second that motion so we can have a discussion Dr PCA do you want to say anything so my understanding is when we amend um we're not going to discuss it is that true it's an amendment to a motion to secondary Amendment so there's

163no discussion we're just going to vote no no we we're discussing the amendment now Amendment just discussing the amendment do you want to add anything to that okay um just a few things I do oh oh I but I haven't talked yet I just want to add a couple things um when uh we talked about this at the October 9th meeting and of course we saw this action agenda um that come out so it's a week before and when I look at the timeline and maybe Dr Moore does agree with that but that's pretty tight um I visited the bureau Classical School uh with Mr Simpson and I know that's a Christian based school he's doing well I miss him I had the opportunity to um work with him when he was a beginning principal

164and when you look at the visions of classical learning one of the first things it says is think deeply read widely and write well through our engaging curriculum and proven teaching methods and we do that through our standards and I think we do it well and um we teach students and promote critical thinking obviously we have to teach his standards but um we do it through critical thinking and then of course they have a Christ centered um part of their uh focus and a community of Grace uh your child and family will be known and loved as an integral part of our authentic community and build health healthy lifelong relationships and one of our speakers talked about that building relationships is key um my point whatever we do whatever we do whether it be classical

165Ka so forth we have to keep the focus on our public school students we have talked actually couple boards before this they have brought up the K8 we've talked a little bit about that very interested on that um we've talked about a boutique high school you know Charter High School open I've visited most of charter schools this year but um and they're doing well they have a Performing Arts um program that's doing very very well and when we look overall at Capital outlay and fiscal responsibility I mean we're really low in some elementary schools but the one thing that keeps coming back to me is our prek uh I went to trunk retreat with um Brook flood last week we were talking about the numbers that are growing and growing I think she said um

166adding classes in about 74 students there are assessing before November and so that's a big thing and when we talk about uh Student Success it's that prek getting ready for Kinder Garten that is crucial so I'm very much in favor of that also another things brought up by board members is really making our alternative school in an alternative school of choice and that has to connect with career in Tech it has to connect and I know we've had some um discussions on that but we're the point where these kids uh do much better in a smaller atmosphere so I think that's something we've talked about but we haven't really moved forward on that and I know Miss um barenborg you know again talked about a boutique high school and whether it's for Performing Arts with

167the focus or whatever ever it is but um I just don't want to send our superintendent to Miami just to look at this one area could this work for our school district we'd have to study it obviously no no doubt there um obviously we can't have the Christian component as um the classical school does in Vero um because we are here for all religions all cultures all children so I would support Miss Borg's motion on looking at at everything we've talked about the past few years and take a look and maybe classical fits in there I don't know but I have to understand that whatever we're doing I have to make a point on this we're doing for all of our students um that's basically it when you look at you know as a school

168district when we were elected I know they use a capital D for district once in a while we are saying what is best what is best for all of our students and I think it's more than this one model that we have to study that's that's my opinion any other comments M Rosario I need um the number three of this item is the is it possible for the school district to open a k through 12 if so include the potential locations ages grades and benefits so if if it were in a k through 12 if it were a K through 8 the superintendent would certainly within number three come back to us and say I recommend a k through eight it's really based on the exploratory committee and what would be the recommendations um so

169that would be included in there um the reason why I don't I would happily support a a separate item for Tech because I do agree we have not had a conversation for um exploring tech programs here last year there was a an effort for culinary not for culinary for Vette Tech and Agriculture and then there was a a team that went out to Westwood High School and then some other schools I believe um so that they could explore that option but a tech school and a classical school are two totally different schools it's two totally different um options so I think the focus on Tech should actually come from the board collective in a separate discussion where we can charge him with that for sure but classical and K8 100% support it all right we

170have an amendment on the floor Miss barenborg would you repeat your Amendment sure second discussion then vote uh authorize the superintendent to explore the classical education model of schooling along with a K8 model a technical school model and a boutique High School model it's a motion I second any discussion Madam think we just did that okay sorry go ahead exploratory committee I'm I'm concerned and I want a level of clarity before the board votes on it uh my intent is to work with staff uh get input uh whether it's Town Hall meetings whether it's going out and conducting a different work group I get concerned that if we use uh exploratory committee uh I would have to require notice we would have to inform the public to have meetings um the timeline is quick I'll

171be very very the timeline that we agreed upon in January is fine but if we're adding these additional items we need to reconsider uh the timeline itself so as the item is written now if it's still looking at a K8 uh Boutique high school or or Tech high schools within the totality of this specific item uh then we I would ask the board to push back to at least February okay talk okay go ahead um my my amended motion did not say um a committee it said to explore no but I know what he's talking about no but the item itself is I know what you're talking about um you could be go ahead M RAR I'm sorry thank you madam chair so um how about the superintendent is charged with creating an investigation on

172the following but you should come to us with a recommendation so oh through the chair and uh what what this item is asking to do with even with the inclusion is to do an investigation it is to do research and it is to come back um with findings and ultimately the Board needs to make a informed decision looking at all the pros and all the cons and the impacts around the the totality of any imple anything I would be asking you to implement uh the item may not be implementation the item will be the findings of what is within this specific item so we it is nothing more than doing the research uh and bringing back the findings so the board can really have an informed conversation okay um doc go ahead can I can

173I amend the amendment okay um I'm going to say that uh authorizes Stu the superintendent to explore the classical education model of schooling along with the K8 model technical school and boutique High School to respond back to the board um by February is that what you said okay okay I second that wait what why are we coming back in February what is the rec he just asked for February why did you ask for February because it's more than one thing we've we've modified the item to include uh research on a K8 design you've modified the item to look at two different types of high school so uh we substantially added the volume of work that would need to be done so only one month more is what you're suggesting yeah yeah yeah all righty we

174have a motion then there's a second all in favor of Miss baren Borg's Amendment to the amendment please signify by saying I I I anyone oppose no okay that vote carries four to one now you need to go to the amendment to the amendment okay that was the amendment of The Amendment right now we go to the amendment and um I think that was yours miss wasar or was it okay go ahead um well it was to authorize the superintendent to explore the classical mod model of schooling uh along with ka8 technical school and boutique High School I did not put a date that was the amendment okay all right all in favor of the amendment Miss barenborg just stated signify by saying I I I I I anyone opposed opposed okay that vote carries

175four to one now going back to the main motion and is that yours or Miss Rosario mine yeah go ahead Miss Rosario go ahead um I'd like to um resend the main motion make an amendment to the main motion uh rather resend the main motion I make a motion um to charge the superintendent with an investigation um which means we would have to remove hold on let me think this through because on the actual charge it says exploratory committee so this would be a question for the attorney how do we remove the exploratory committee here does that you can amend the motion if you it's just a language in here because the motion itself is fine authorize the superintendent to explore the classical education model of schooling it's act the it's just editing what is

176in the written form in the written form of the of the agenda item yes sir show him Dr Moore yeah no I I understand I'm I'm just catching up on these several amendments two amendments to be candid um you could simply um move the item as has been amended the multiple times and striking out that one Clause striking out exploratory committee yes ma'am because I think we all the elephant in the room is we're trying to avoid turning this into a sunshine item where you're going to be on it for months okay um so the motion Remains the Same same then yeah all right so I make a motion to authorize the superintendent to explore the classical education model of schooling what was that language I'm sorry you said um you said a specific no

177I I would say um but not having any form of sunshine committee okay um so I make a motion to authorize the superintendent to explore the classical education model of schooling wi without without using an exploratory committee yes ma'am point of order motion okay point of order Miss Barbor if we vote on this we're still adding the amendment to it correct yes ma'am okay that's what's on the floor okay Mr Rosario's motion is there a second second all in favor say I I I I anyone opposed vote carries 5 Z so we final vote is that you should restate it would you restate it then oh I take that back yeah M be Borg would you restate it you have the amendment the chair should restate the amended motion that we voted on okay um

178I don't know if I wrot it down right but the motion was to approve the super superintendent to do you want me to say it yeah go ahead authorize the superintendent to explore the classical education model of schooling um as well as the K8 model the technical school model and the boutique High School model without an exploratory committee got it got it Dr Moore yes ma'am thank you very much thank you Miss Rosario thank you Miss Barbor all right our next one is approval of the Liberty magnet playground equipment replacement staff is requesting approval to purchase replacement playground equipment of existing playground at Liberty Magnet School the cost of playground equipment including installation is $6,595 21 price is based on Clay County Schools RFP 181 19-2 so we need a motion for approval of Liberty

179magnet playground equipment replacement I'll make a motion thank you miss barenborg the motion do we have a second Mr barefoot any discussion you have a public speaker yes go ahead Mr Mars I'm sorry oh no no problem mam chair it's getting late uh just real briefly uh it's great the kiddos are having uh new playgrounds I was at a great ESC pack meeting uh please attend the next one and we discussed about the inclusivity uh for many of these playgrounds I guess just my question is um does it start with this particular playground because I would assume that we want this inclusive to be across the board so that was my only question I ran late saying get a chance to read everything for Liberty but I would totally hope so and I implore those

180who didn't miss that ESC pack meeting uh what we're going to have for these kids at these schools uh for students and wheelchairs is just is just phenomenal the the time that was taken uh by ESC to look into that because that's what we have to have this has to be across the board to make sure that these playgrounds are going to be fitting for all kids thank you thank you Mr Marsh okay we're back to the motion approval of the Liberty magnet playground equipment replacement motion was given by Mr Barefoot second by Mr miss barenborg any discussion uh yeah I just want to make a point um this isn't the first playground we've discussed this in um the graves property playground was discussed like this before okay all in favor please say I I

181anyone oppose there's discussion discussion yes I'm sorry I did see it but I went quickly um some of the uh it wasn't the graves it was the Vero Beach element that came to us last year and was actually pulled um because there wasn't enough or um uh ESC those are preexisting equipment for students so a student with a wheelchair last year the um vbe playground or the the draft that came to us from vbe um did not have adequate um Ada equipment even though it was ADA Compliant it still didn't didn't have enough for the board at the time to approve so it was pulled I feel the same way about this if you look at the pictures for Liberty magnet um there's only one ramp where a a student with a wheelchair can go

182up just very little and then that's it and then come down they can't play on anything else um if they come around through the other side through the far side of the playground they have little tic t Tao things that they can move and maybe some tactile things which is fine which is standard in pretty much all playgrounds and then there is just one little I guess step or plat plat platform that the student is in a wheelchair is actually sitting on but there's nothing to play with there's there's nothing there uh you would have to bring the child something to actually play with in hand um the clim has sensory events but if there are kids climbing up the sensory um climber then the wheelchair gets kind of caught it's not like the climber

183has space inside for the wheelchair to go in and out and maybe some ropes or something hanging from the inside for someone with a wheelchair and I say wheelchair only because that's the most obvious thing that if a student with a wheelchair is on the playground they they're going to need the most accommodation to be able to allow them to have just as much play as everybody else um but that's not the only kind I mean we have students with epilepsy and autism and cerebral praly and down syndrome and even those some of those students can't play on the same playground as a traditional student who doesn't have um special needs so I don't think this playground has enough um has adequate um equipment to accommodate students with special needs I know the conversation um

184that came before us before me was more like well if we put it in now it's going to cost a lot more money well I would rather put it in now and get it right than have to worry about fixing it later on the other thing is the other thing that came to us is well we don't have a student in a wheelchair in that school at this time well you might not have it now but you might have one next year or you might have someone with cerebral paly next year or you might have someone next month I mean there's no telling and so if we're going to do it we should do it right if we're going to replace an entire playground let's replace it correctly and then little by little other you

185know just like vbe never came back to us let's do this the right way I'm willing to make this a priority because playgrounds are an issue we don't have enough playgrounds in our community in our entire County that is sufficient with these um external play you know play things or Pathways for accessibility on playgrounds I think when the Jimmy Graves um field is finally completed we will have probably the only one that will be truly accessible for wheelchairs but for now we don't and so at our schools if kids come first then this should be one of the areas that we show kids come first okay thank you anyone else discuss for the playground M Borg I have a question because I did question this um Mr Bass um we had people from ESC look

186into this do we have any parents that have children that are um maybe have some severe handicaps look into this as well yes ma'am through the chair um we got several like to talk about several things about this playground if I can just start from the beginning if that's okay with the superintendent that I asked Mr Bass okay thank you thank you Dr um this playground is 4340 Square ft um accessibility it has 21 accessible features 12 of those are elevated features the American Society for testing materials and the international play equipment uh Association recommends six accessible items this has 21 on it um it is wheelchair accessible uh it does have the elevated features that it can go on those two organizations recommend four elevated features this one has 12 on it um in

187comparison to the equipment that's picked out for the Graze property the cost of the equipment for that is uh $318,000 this is$ 116,000 that equipment has 29 accessible features this has 21 for $200,000 less yes um so I'm going disagree with you Mr Rosario I think I think this is a quality piece of equipment for accessibly challenged students um you know big thing that you and I had talked about was a swing um if you're looking at putting a swing station in for a wheelchair you're looking at $30,000 that is the that is the equipment the installation and a tarp over it and on top of that it has to be isolated per code away from the rest of the equipment I can't in good conscious bring a $30,000 ticket item to you guys to

188approve for something that we may not have a student there for also we have got two wheelchair swings at Rosewood that if need be if we have a wheelchair student that governs one of the schools we can move that that would be a much more fiscally conscious move um so I I think this is a good piece of equipment I really do okay thank you go ahead yes I asked to to speak on it but I was actually going to make a comment uh thank you and I appreciate the fact that you guys did your due diligence on this um the V virau Beach Elementary plan that was brought to us that never came to fruition correct yes no ma'am it did not because what we were doing there is this this is a full

189replacement of a playground this this playground equipment has used all its expect ation of of usage um the vbe was parts and pieces so what we plan to do is put in these elements there for accessibility at the existing playground which is in a lot better shape yeah I just don't want to keep kicking this can down the road because you've got kids that are maturing and going on and they'll never see these playgrounds um so I want to make sure that we have something in place that I feel like we can do financially and also like you mentioned has a lot of accessibility for kids are we going to have anything perfect not unless we had maybe a million dollars to spend on it um but we have so many other things that we

190have to spend money on I don't want to not include kids but I also think feel like we can do the best job we can do so thank you any other discussion and was it yes ma'am go ahead BBE was not bits and parts we were presented with an entire plan for an entire playground yes ma'am and due to the price inflation and the supply chain demand the P the price skyrocketed and it was outside of our bu yeah so but it wasn't initially presented to us in bits and pieces right but then when we had to go back to re-engineer it that's about time that the prices really went outrageous anyone else Dr Bo didn't you send us an email regarding the liability here and getting this moving to um through the chair I

191did I think Mr Bass just captured okay that email all right we've had a discussion so we'll go through the vote approval of the liberty of magnet playground equipment replacement need a motion I'll make a motion okay do we have a second second Mr PCA all right all in favor please say I I I opposed opposed okay four to one thank you Miss Rosario oppos all right the next one is for discussion Miss Rosario board meeting and Mr Marsh you wanted to talk on the board meetings you're the only one here yes good evening board meetings well my recommendation would be let's stop live streaming you want the circus to stop stop giving them the audience and the ability to do so so that would be my recommendation I'm sure many others in this community

192if you're really here to be Best Buy kids you're here to ask from the board and to give information not to be here to be able to put on a show so I'm asking that we stop live streaming number one and also let's look into what some other school districts do and let me read to you beginning with Thursday's meeting the school administration will limit public speakers at Schoolboard meetings County you have to be a County resident County student parents of students or school system employees however people will live outside the school district more than welcome to attend meetings why would I go to imagine to speak at their board meeting and I ain't got kids there makes no sense so again I ask that you look into to or the proper terminology I guess

193due to chair charge the superintendent let's look into other policies of other surrounding school districts so we can get back to the business at hand at these board meetings and we can continue to do what's on this placard in front of us by transforming education to inspire Empower all students to maximize their full potential that's what our Schoolboard meetings are for not for out Out of Towners to come in here and have the sheriff's department to remove them I implore for both we don't need to live stream nothing per Florida State Statute and through the chair have a great Law Firm that can explain that you don't need to live stream you don't need to have these cameras okay and you don't need to have anyone outside of this County to come in here and

194invade our our school board meetings thank you and there was no time there so can I keep going for five more minutes or what no thank you Mr Marsh okay M mzor the floor is yours um so I wanted to uh put this on here because was I actually wanted it to be a combined item with Robert's Rules of Order um that was my initial my initial thoughts so board meetings are supposed to be a space where we conduct board business and I just want to make clear and I'm glad that we had our meetings our training today that um the board that anything any decision regarding our board meeting should really come before the board itself it shouldn't be a decision on one person so with all due respect as the chair your job

195is to run the meeting but if there were any other decisions um it would be respectful to honor all board members so that we could have that discussion together and have all of the board members vote on whatever that might be so if it's you know flying balloons in the room it would be based on the board Collective to decide make that decision clearly not um with I'm not talking about you know um running the meeting as you have been running it I'm talking about all the other things that happen with the meeting uh for example what happens out in the lobby there's a lot of things that happen out in the lobby that I'm just completely unsure who's making that decision um we should actually make that decision since it is a board meeting

196or at least be involved in the discussion um if there is um a change in the room setting or when the cameras change you know it should be a board discussion not something that is happening from who knows who um which is fine and you never know if the board members might be supportive of it it's just a matter of having respect to know that it is a board meeting so when that Gap hits it is our Collective board meeting um not just one person so I just wanted to mention that with regard to Robert's rules um I thought today went well um I I'm I'm glad that we all had that discussion uh had that training it's long overdue for us to have had that that training um Roberts rules actually talks a lot

197about how our board meetings are run this is why I want this wanted this item to be um combined um so following what is in the book and really you know doing our best there's a lot to learn with regard to Robert's Rules so clearly we're not going to be able to know every single item but I think today's um training went really well and um I hope you all um thought the same thing thank you Miss Rosario Dr Bor did you want to respond to any of that with the board setup or anything okay thank you all right it's a discussion or you got to ask if anybody else has anything to say yes ma'am M I know that any other discussion regarding um Robert's Rules or board meetings I signed up M Robert

198rules okay yeah we're kind of combining that okay that's fine go ahead thank you madam chair uh I'm I'm just confused as to why we spent money on this training through the chair we have a very powerful Law Firm that represents the school district of inine River County for years I I've watched point of order Robert's Rules was carried out just fine so I'm not sure why we wasted money on this type of training why couldn't the Schoolboard attorney do the same exact thing that's literally what they're here for so I guess just to hear always talk about fiscal responsibility maybe we can hear the community why do we have to spend that money I I just don't quite understand it what did we get out of this training that the school board attorney could

199not give us that's my question I pose thank you thank you any other discussion school board members on the Roberts rules or the board meetings all righty thank you our next one then is Library objection process Miss Pippen is asked to speak thank you so um the Board of Education approved the new form I know that we've already spoke about this but I just wanted to give a compliment to to curriculum instruction for getting that form implemented so fast um we were able to already do our challenges within one week of the form being adopted and then implemented in the school district so I want to thank uh curriculum instruction for that um and I also wanted to um let you guys know that we still have 16 CRT books pending um we do have

200two formally challenged and the others are um pending because a lot of them are boxed up in the Sebastian Library that were in books or in in boxes excuse me so um we're just trying to be respectful of time and then once these two books you know get challenge with possibly the new committee or however this is going to happen um you know then we will formally challenge the other books but they are you know pulled from students so again we're just trying to be respectful of the time of the committee um if possibly Dr Moore has to get new committee members if people don't um want to be on the committee anymore and also a p a point of clarification for the critical race Theory challenges um none of them are about African-American studies

201African-American authors africanamerican characters um you know you hear a lot of misinformation about that these are critical race Theory directly in violation of House Bill 15157 House Bill 7 and the Department of Education Library training slide specifically 32 through 34 that talks about unsolicited theories so again this isn't about African-American um authors characters anything of that um also some misinformation on library books challenged um through our district um To Kill a Mockingbird was never challenged Rosa Parks was never challenged Roberto Clemente was never challenged Martin Luther King was never challenged uh Carter G Woodson was never challenged um this is public facing on moms for Liberty um Indian River Florida public page and it's also available through a public records request through the school district so it is blatant misinformation and lies um and also

202Prager you is not in our school so I don't know why that keeps getting brought up again we need to fit you know go to the facts and the stats of what is being challenged or what is actually in our district so again um we will be looking at more um critical race Theory books um once the Sebastian library is through um but again um we need to you know remove these materials because they are prohibited per all the um laws and statutes that I just stated thank you thank you Mr Marsh good evening facts do matter and you know what there's only been two individuals that went through the entire Library objection process this is what we spent and wasted money on for two individuals through the chair one is District 2 board member

203and the other is a parent so we did all this to appease two people and please after I speak correct me if I'm wrong because through public records facts don't lie two people have went through the entire Library objection process now I'm a little confused because I saw an email through the chair that actually came from our superintendent it was posted on Facebook by a board member like it was hers but it was actually from our superintendent and we were given a breakdown as to the all the title and where they currently stand but you know what's more important because we still didn't find a boogeyman maybe it's at Sebastian High locked up in those books however what I listened tonight about and through the chair Dr Moore stated well some of the staff they

204don't want to continue to do it now I don't know why but I'm going to guess that if the chair and vice chair are being threatened that probably these individuals don't want to be in the spotlight anymore call me crazy but that's probably why they don't want to sit on that committee I would love to let me know if any I got anyone's vote I saw an no it was great but again I don't understand why and let me do this officially this is my public record request for the exact length of time and I'll slow down and we can re rewatch it later I want to know the exact time that the cni division has spent from back into Mr Meyer day I don't think you read the book that was great I remember

205that day I want to know exactly how much time has been spent on on this so once again my public record request involving a library objection process I want to know the exact staff hours Andor money spent on this process from beginning to today and I'm sure you can't capture to give me a rough approximate an estimate because we did it for two individuals now I'm looking at the room tonight and I don't think any parents are in here screaming about the library process when is enough enough I just don't understand how much more manpower committees staff this is ridiculous all for what for two individuals that went through the entire process but I know we had the seniors come up here and scream about porn so we got to count them but again there's

206not a problem here at the school district of in County we constantly create one and we waste taxpayer dollars to appease two and I would love love for someone to correct me because public records are cool and per public records two people went through the entire process I wait to hear if I'm incorrect thank you thank you m Rosario the um discussion item is yours yes thank you so much it doesn't matter whether it's 220 or 200 it is Law and it has to be implemented it is Law and it has to be something that we adopt and the process has to be adhered to um and so that's all I'm going to say about that we also have 80 policies that we are um that we have approved tonight for public hearing um many

207of those we don't see the the the light of day we as a board don't see the light of day on many of those for for Many Items it doesn't mean that we're not supposed to have them um so you're still we are still required by law to adhere to the law so with the library objection process I will say that um one of the things that that I realize that has have come to my attention is that in the lobby there is and I don't know if it's still happening or if it was there was an intent to object to material form um that is not part of our process um we now have the official form from the doe so this cannot continue Dr more response um through the chair that's an opportunity

208to initiate that process itself but this is not the Forum so we now have an official form from the doe correct and that that that is a form that we're using and we'll continue to use in the lobby no this is not the form you are not using and continuing to use the same form that you're not supposed to use just a moment please go ahead Dr Mo we will use the appropriately approved form not the form that you're waving around okay so this is no longer going to be in existence that's what I'm hearing you are correct okay correct it was already okay never mind no it wasn't because it the form just we just got the form from the doe correct and that's what was out there today I I just want to

209make sure that this form is not going to be used that's all you're good okay and then um the other thing is um let me get my notes here um so can we update the website like I know that when we go on our website the search bar is just the search bar just doesn't do anything but when we go on our website I know that there is a place there let me get there let me get there so there is a place on the right hand on the right side that says um media materials I think it says instructional instructional and library media materials so when you're on another form when you're on another page and you you forget if somebody doesn't see it if it's missed when you put in the search bar

210library books or Library form or objection form none of that shows up so can we do some searches can we you know do something with the it that they understand that the searches in the search bar will pull up the same item through the chairs I'm not sure what the the ask is and I think it if the search bar is not working so is it the desire of the board to review the search bar no it's not an action item I'm just telling you the search bar is not working got it the search bar needs to be fixed keywords doesn't matter what it is that you put in there you can put anything in there it almost never shows the item that you're looking for okay any other discussion on that item Miss barenborg

211are you directing the superintendent to do that that's not a Direction that's not a directive I I'm telling him it needs to be fixed but that's not a directive okay well he can look into it but um I believe you um sorry aren't you supposed to talk directly to the chair it's all right thank you thank you go ahead um Dr Jones I believe today um board member Rosario stated that not one board member can direct the superintendent the board corporate needs to decide on that okay this is a discussion item so it's really not a vote thank you okay all right anything else on that item Miss Rosario yeah no I just plugged a few keywords into the search bar and it it appears it's down there's something wrong with it we got something

212oh we got something it takes a little bit of time well they can look at it I guess all right any other discussion on that item all right the next discussion is my item stability and concerns in community Mr Kenny wanted to speak I prer to we won't do that Mr Kenny I'm sorry and then Mr Marsh I I was just trying to be civil give him a chance to change his T-shirt please please please thank you I I'm here about civility because you know one of things civility requires and we're a little punch drunk here because it's long night there's a good football game on uh is truth civility requires truth uh earlier this evening someone mentioned that I made something disparaging in regards to the NAACP in my email I sent you guys

213and it was basically about the whole political stance of the um issues surrounding the social studies African-American social studies stuff you know the vice president made a false statement about it in front of a power Attorney Benjamin Crump for the NAACP who is currently threatening the um disantis Administration with a lawsuit over their removal of the college AP course which said the same thing as the Florida course said the editorial position of the TC Palm I showed you guys Three Links actually the editorial board originally wrote it on 9823 in regards to the August 28th meeting and when an editorial board writes the position that slaves benefit from slavery quote unquote that's what it says that becomes the position of the whole paper regardless and even if the author will come and change that and

214say no it doesn't really say that they say well this is our editorial position they they change it back so they change it to a false statement now you say how do you know that Thomas look hey I did 15 20 years of media I know how this stuff works it's my was my professional job so have a political group in the NAACP going after the disantis administration all of a sudden on doing 180° out of phas this was all a political thing and it cost our civility here and that's where you have to start as Educators all of you your doctor very educated 50 years education 40 years education 30 years education Finance here very educated man yourself of course everyone can look at the English and diagram the sentence and go that's not

215what it says despite all the political nonsense we see in our press where people are taking sides this is how you become civil the books are another example now M for Liberty came here and read excerpts from all these books but we challenged a lot of these books back in February we were given a runaround and a bureaucratic shift which is currently in cour court and people said well things got un civil it would have been civil if you just did the truth from the GetGo thank you Mr Kenny Mr Marsh a hand out please if I can bring to secretary yes please I want talking to you ma'am please come on let's go we don't want to have that please sorry he was being mean thank you it's all right please be sorry I

216didn't have enough Dr Moore good evening civility well let's first talk about the definition formal politeness and courtesy and behavior or speech well unfortunately once again through the chair board member PCA decides that this tweet is okay through the chair I can't read it all because you explain to us what we couldn't could not say because kids are listening so I will not say the word that you can see in front of you but in this little comic that's so funny put your in my mouth sir you can't read porn here it's for children only that's what's funny through the chair once again we went from KKK those bad Democrats and now once again that we can have the book gender queer being exhibited in this little cartoon how disgusting now I don't know about

217you that doesn't sound like nice courtesy good behavior or speech for a sitting board member's Twitter account when is enough enough this now I this wasn't in 21 or 22 before this school board member was here this was just on 9:13 a little over a month ago so we went from the KKK to bashing lgbtq to making fun about porn being in the librar apparently that's disgusting civility now civility doesn't involve the constant what we keep hearing about slaves benefited it was so great so we will continue even though it's not on the agenda because it's going to sneak back up that same item that is not civil te to constantly talk about that we're going to teach this so we're going to continue to come here and we're going to continue to state that

218it was it's foolish to think that a teacher can teach how slaves benefited now again when we talk about concerns in our community and it was brought up tonight in anti-bullying aggressive use of power now answer this question do you think it's civil and let's talk about concern when school board members align themselves with partisan hate groups in our county is that civil absolutely not is it a concern from the community yes it is it's a concern from many groups but I guess we target the NAACP so we'll bring them up it's not just NAACP it's all of us we're sick and tired of looking at this garbage from sitting Schoolboard members but you know who did respond through the chair not Mr PCA through the chair Mr Ario responded and said thank you for

219being on the same page about the books it's not about the books yes those particular books do the chair Miss rosar reference are disgusting but this conduct of a school board member is worse than the trash that she recited as the books thank you thank you Mr Marsh all right hey hey Madam chair thank you Miss visario I heard it thank you very much heard it that's your warning yes maam I brought this up for a few reasons um just go with the history of what I've gone through a four or five groups or committees have started in this County or they kind of regrouped if you will um because what they have seen at in River County with a few items just says that's not who we are and many of you know I've

220been here over 40 years some of these s from the August 28th meeting where a disruptor was brought in and some of them started from the African-American standards and some just in because of political issues in our nation and how people were treated the truth and Justice committee with a Presbyterian Church asked me to join they're a very positive group and they're always saying what can they do for the community unarian Universal Church um asked me to come in on their meeting after the African-American standards that actually say that slaves benefited uh Rabbi burnol who was here tonight invited me to the beind meeting the last time we had a workshop I could not go but my husband attended and then the Center for Spiritual care is starting some dinner dialogue where you just sit

221and discuss and listen and listen instead of anger and threats they're going to try to do a proclamation at the County Commissioners on being kind and stop the hate and after they do that I will propose that to Dr Moore faith in Florida is joining in NAACP youth group has started again and they're working with their students to keep involved I think some of them asked me to attend because what they saw um that people are facing also a really good group that met this Saturday was AAW with um Sheriff flowers um and several of his um people just talking about mental health and guns and what's happening in our community and then one one of my people I really admire um past president IRSC Dr Massie and I talked last week he said is

222a great quote never lose sight of the value of K12 education don't ever get diverted and I think sometimes we have to be careful of that you know civility is important and we've said before you can always disagree with respect but I think when we're at the board here we have to set a standard for our community one of our policies I believe it's 0018 says no one should have personal or political gain within our position we are here for all students and we must remain focused on that not partisan politics and we need to be the model I attended one of the uh first African-American student council uh meetings at verel Beach High School I was invited by Mr Hart and this was a strong and powerful group um they were also in the

223homecoming parade and they were feeling a little bit marginalized with some laws I will be going to the gay straight Alliance Club tomorrow at Sebastian River High School I saw them at the homecoming parade they are feeling marginalized I don't know what we can do as far as uh you know a proclamation we could take a look at what's happening maybe the board would want to create one but I just think it's very very important when we're here in the meetings to always always show respect I mean some of the consequences after the August 28th meeting were very hard um on myself and my family but I always want to try to stay above that and keep the focus on our students and this was just for me a reminder to say listen we've got

224some tough decisions to make we have some new state statutes new laws we have to follow that's not an issue but even when we sit up here and and every word we say we're being watched every word we say you know one thing as a principal I'd always say oh I'm going to make I'm probably going to make a mistake today there's 2,000 students and about 200 staff members but I always always hoped that I didn't ever hurt a child in a mistake that I would make if I did I'd own it and U move forward and apologize but it's just something I just wanted to bring up because we you know kind of gone through this last couple months and these Community organizations some have already started but some were starting a new and

225some were just discussing what's been happening so I think the most important thing we can do for our our children and our administrators and our support staff our districts everybody we can model what we expect and you know those are there are people who come up here and um say something might I might not agree with but when they say it with um no I guess Vengeance or anything it's important to me it's truly important to me so I just wanted to bring this up and Dr Moore maybe once they do that Proclamation they're getting on schedule now for the um County commissions hopefully we can do one and and continue that counting commission School Board any other important factors um in this community so that's any other discussion that was my discussion anybody else

226okay no one okay yeah I'll make a comment um you know I think it's big of a person to apologize when they're wrong and I think some of the actions that we are are taking as leaders are reflecting on the entire board and um I think sometimes people need to look at the actions of what they do personally and say how will this affect the entire board if you're part of this team you're part of the team and I think that we need to look at that and say no my time's not up um we need to we need to look at that and say um you know what I'm going to apologize to my board members for my behavior and I think sometimes people you know apologies can be accepted and we can move

227on and I think you know we've gone through a lot of turmoil in the last year especially and when we have tweets that are going out stuff like this it saddens me because it brings us farther apart as a team and I say a team because we're all we supposed to if you went to your training for school board um you know you own it even if you don't vote with it it's not they voted for it it's the board and I'm part of the board voted for it people can go back and look in the camera and watch see if you voted or not um and I guess that's why we're so particular with our minutes but you know this stuff is I'm part of this board and I don't want to own stuff

228like that I want to be civil and professional and be a part of a professional board that behaves and I'm asking my fellow board members to do the same anyone else sure I'll uh I'll make a comment so a a speaker brought up uh a tweet about a a father going into a board meeting for school board and trying to read a book and being told by staff and teachers that he couldn't read it um but those same teachers also and the staff still want it in the school libraries this isn't because it's funny this is because this happened this is a historical document and it happened in this County so it's not funny and that's why the books were removed all right so thank you thank you Dr PCA um the next one is

229okay on that one next one is mine on promotion of public schools I've already talked about that a little bit so this is just a short note when we were talking about classical school and I said let's look at the other things we've talked about before with either the K8 or the boutique High School uh or the Alternative Center with a real Career Tech um model um only thing I would add to that is you know obviously with our vouchers that are out there with our parents now that they can access access to vouchers you know there's real competition and Dr Moore um can you let us know where are we on the FTE October as far as gaining or losing because that's important for finance through the chair we're about 280 students uh more

230this year in comparison to the previous year's FD at the same time okay good so we're growing in students and when we were um as a principal you always kind of were worried about that count in October because you could lose a teacher and that changes so many things but um just again just to reiterate that when we look for things whether it be class call or K8 or Boutique or upping that alternative that we you know keep in mind what is best for all of our students because um you know that's our job as far as I think it's policy 0018 it says the responsibility of education for these students lies with the board and that is a huge huge responsibility any comments on that speak M oh I'm sorry yes sir I'm sorry

231that's that's fine I will defer but I do want to speak for the board member comments that was added please on the next one all right fads ethic training is my next one all I wanted to do was remind uh people that that's due by December um certainly won't go into that it's four hours of training and sometimes I think oh I've seen this last couple years but they have really good information this time on social media they have good information on um that was a big one I think that was the one that I learned quite a bit from as far as social media and Miss beorg I know you've taken that anything else you want to add to that mine's already filed and and I I know that you have to do that

232um it has to go to Dorian so please get your ethics training done and please pay attention to it um they are funny this year with their hats and all but um and I have heard it I don't know how many years now seven plus when I was a principal and all that um it's been updated to the new laws and we are under those laws and when you put out stuff on social media you're susceptible to those laws that's all I'll say about that Al righty and then I added one other discussion um this was on the organizational meeting November in November and I talked with Dr MO about this because I uh when I became chair last year and just went into the chair I thought about having the organizational meeting first where

233the new chair is nominated and then you go into the workshop and then you go into the business meeting so that new chair doesn't have to go directly from one chair to the other and then run the business meeting if a new chair is selected so Dr Mo you want to talk a little bit about that I did discuss a little bit with you your thoughts to the chair I think what you're referencing is last year um we had the organization meeting during the day uh elected the chair and then that evening we had the board meeting uh and that afforded whoever the chair is the opportunity in between those two meetings yes the opportunity to review the script uh preparing for those of you who have facilitated a meeting it is not an easy

234task so turning over a script uh with all of the information regarding um public comment and the process that you that we that we use it is a big task so if you never served as a chair walking into it even if you were a chair last year or two years ago uh the systems that we use now are much tighter um but it would require a a little bit of training so if if it's the desire of the board um we have not notice these meetings yet we will be noticing them first thing tomorrow as I'm looking at Dorian um we could have the organizational meeting at noon uh and then maybe at 12:45 have the business meet um uh the workshop in the business meeting at the regular time and that would afford

235the opportunity for the chair to prepare in between meetings any comments on that I think it's a good idea Mr Barefoot you go with that I think I think it is a good idea to try and jam Everything In It's hard uh and to start the business meeting or to have the organizational meeting before the business doesn't make any sense no it doesn't M Rosario Dr PKA you okay with that give him a little bit time to prepare um sounds reasonable okay thank thank you m Rosario no comment okay alrighty I think that is it I want no no wait a minute now okay okay let me get to my paper here yes Miss barenborg I'm sorry go ahead yeah I had an item uh board member comments but I believe you have a speaker

236okay thank you thank you very much uh yes I would like to talk about board member comments through the chair we just got got to see when a board member addresses someone um in the audience it kind of rude but let's go back to previous board meetings and through the chair I've listened Time After Time and heard well the superintendent just does nothing well the superintendent Waits 6 months through the chair I I think that's very disrespectful for a board member to acknowledge our superintendent say to do nothing and that was in a previous meeting and I quote and that was verbatim that if we don't tell him specifically he'll do nothing that's our school board meeting that's how school board members speak to the superintendant that's in charge to run the school district of

237Indian River County so I just want to remind people that we talk about ethics for a board member and it's perfectly fine to be civil and respond back to the community um but again at a public meeting this is what we let the community hear that is absolutely a fallacy to say that our superintendent does nothing nothing look around we're the number one of the number one school districts across the State of Florida so apparently through the chair he must be doing something thank you Mr Marsh Miss barenborg yeah um in today's uh Workshop that we had which wasn't really a workshop it was a training on Robert's wols um the um trainer came had a comment and I commented on it which said um that board members for example should speak three or four

238or five minutes um which at a time so that it's fair to all board members and there's a lively discussion versus one person going on and on and on and on and on and the rest of us kind of nodding off and then forgetting what our point is so um right now I see eight minutes on there but if you go to your handbook that we all have on our Das and you look at page seven under meeting expectations in the middle of the page the second bullet says during board business meeting means each School Board member has a right to initially present on a discussion or action item up to 10 minutes and I don't know where we changed it to8 and then following the initial presentation of the item each board member May

239initially comment on the topic for up to three minutes the discussion will continue in round robin fashion until the discussion is complete the board chairperson ask for a vote or a board member calls the question without interrupting another board member so I will be bringing an actual an item to um the next board meeting that says I would like to um am amend this procedure I guess it is a procedure or is it a protocol under here is it a protocol I'd like to amend that protocol to say um I think five minutes is reasonable she suggested three four or five um we're supposed to be at 10 so I'd like to say five and that way it's a liely discussion between board members versus one board member monopolizing the conversation and the rest of

240us not really responding right away I think it would be better for the whole board to act as a team that way and have Lively discussion versus a um diet trap trip thank you any comments any response to that discussion has uh have we had somebody go past eight minutes in the last six months to a year I don't think we've gotten close to that yes we have what when was that I don't have it memorized I don't remember ever seeing that I mean it sounds like we're trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist oh it does all right well that would be an action vote we can talk about it then so well I'm just letting you know I'm going to bring it Miss Rosario well we what we talked about is any

241action item should come to us in a workshop so if that's an item that comes to us in a workshop then we can talk about it then sure yeah it'll come to the next Workshop all righty I think since it's mine I like to finish up goad um I just like to thank the trainer today for saying that that most boards do that that and we don't and so I think for the fact that it's a lively discussion back and forth we should be fair to each other and 5 minutes I think is is more than fair okay Miss Rosario yeah the she also said that we create our own rules and so if we already have rules and there's no need to fix anything that's not broken oh I think it's then there's no

242need to do that and so I only see this as a way of stifling the voice of board members this is just a way of shortening what you have to say I don't want to hear it and so speak less that's all that it is okay we can talk about that the work it's the same way of trying to shut down citizen comments it's the same thing it's a just another view of how to shut people down when you don't want to hear what they have to say drad just one thing I want to say before we get into this in a workshop um that's not what I'm asking what I'm asking is to take turns 5 minutes at a time you can keep taking those turns um but I think it's fair that we

243have a 5 minute versus a 10-minute which is what we have in our protocol and I don't know how it became eight minutes okay Dr PCA so I it sound like from the a policy you just read that the initial presentation is 10 minutes after that it's 3 minutes is that correct M so you want to you just said we're going to go round robin at 5 minutes you want to expand the time no I want to start it with 5 minutes and go to 3 minutes yeah okay so it's different what you just said I'm sorry but I I'm not bringing it for vote so it's okay that I misspoke yeah it'll come to the next discussion alrighty now if we're all good with that we are School Board member matters Mr Barefoot I'm

244calling on you just to tell us how you're doing and glad you here I thought I was doing all right before three and a half hours ago but at any rate um the only thing I would like uh to bring to people's ATT attention is on Wednesday at 10:00 the Metropolitan planning organization has a very important meeting and and and you've read in the paper the discussions around the twin pairs yeah and um on on Wednesday there will be another discussion where you have the five County Commissioners uh and then uh I think two or three verab Beach city council members and then representatives from from felme in my case I represent the school board um and it's something I trust you're all paying attention to but if you're not you should um I think

245this is a very important decision uh as to and it's got to be decided soon I forget the exact time frame and you've got an election in the city of Vero Beach and if you don't live in the city I mean I happen to live in Indian River scores but if you don't vote in the city you still should be paying attention because it's going to impact everybody yes uh so uh I don't have anything to report except that pay attention it's it's it's one of the more important uh meetings and votes that by the elect by the the members who are who are asked to vote on a recommendation as to uh what happens with the red 60 headed east thank you Miss Rosario um I just wanted to also um talk a little

246bit about this morning's groundbreaking ceremony um it was wonderful to be there and to see um Mr Graves and his family honor their son in this particular Way by donating this land to us um it's really very honoring um they are a couple who are very strong um together and obviously their family unit is very strong and um I can't even imagine what they went through um but to know that they have a heart for the community as they do and to collaborate with us in this particular way um is just really wonderful so I hope that we um I'm sure that we won't disappoint in honoring their son's um memory and Legacy in this particular way and obvious obviously the bill and Billy Wilson uh family for being there um at the ground uh

247ceremony we went through all of the congratulations on everyone else earlier um who participated and who allowed this uh to actually occur so uh I won't read through those names but that was a wonderful opportunity I know that this past week there were lots of schools who had their homecoming events parades and their dances everything went off without a hitch so I know a lot of students um were sharing some great pictures so I'm glad that they all had a wonderful time and then last weekend I went to Marjorie stowman Douglas High School um and there was a tour of the actual school before it is demolished um the case the court case is um completed now and um it was the uh put together by a father of one of the students who lost

248their lives um during that tragic event um to say that it was sad is an understatement um it is exactly the same as it was when the event happened they've preserved it as is because it was an ongoing court case obviously it was still an investigation um the main point of it all was what could you do differently to make sure that this never happens again so school safety obviously is a big point for us and I have to say um there were a lot of takeaways for me um and way too many to discuss you know during this time but if you have an opportunity to see the building um and walk through all of the steps that even the shooter took and walked his way through the building you you you'll see the

249impact and the purpose and you'll want to really look at our safety and our security um you will through different eyes um and so that's what I came across came away with that event it was powerful there were it was By Invitation Only from what I understand um I think a lot of elected officials and um police officers law enforcement um a lot of um I think the the City Mayors and senators and um some other people there were different time slots in which you could attend so you you were constantly in this rotating they did a wonderful job wonderful job um and so it it was something that really changed me walking through there um not knowing exactly what to expect um and so I just I hope and pray that we never have

250to experience something like that ever that no one else would ever have to experience something like that thank you Mr Dario Dr PCA yeah so I also um attended the margerie Stoneman Douglas um tour which was uh the tour was run by the prosecuting State Attorney and he walked us through uh the steps of the shooter and really broke down in many ways the security and safety failures of the school um which were numerous um and you know I'm not going to go through listing all all of them but I I couldn't help but come back to on day one you know when I met with the cabinet um I explained that Safety and Security was my number one priority um to me it's the most important thing because you really can't learn if the

251environment isn't safe um and as we've gone you know over the last year we have made strides to improve our security um over what we've done in the past as a board um but I couldn't help sitting there uh during the tour and seeing the aftermath of what happened I couldn't help but feel upon reflecting that really I'm going to share what I said in our last uh meeting um where there were there were multiple board members missing in the last security meeting um when I felt when I share that I felt that um as a board we've been criminally negligent um over the last four years leading up to this point because there are so many different security features um you know we could start with something visible from the street the fence you

252know and and you know when I got here I don't I'm not sure the board knew what the proper fence height even was um because clearly it was never addressed um so you know I take security very seriously um we can't keep spending on all these other things until we get our schools as safe as they can be um and one of the things that the commission that came out of that shooting uh recommended is that no school should have one good guy with a gun in the school um it is really not a sufficient number of people um it was discussed at the tour I don't know if anyone other than Jackie had the opportunity to go to that um but basically that the idea that one person would have gone on that campus

253every school shooting and grade school ends within 3 minutes and 30 seconds so if you're expecting the calvary to arrive to help save the day that's clearly not the plan in place we need to have the assets on site to fix the problem and you know I feel my concern is that when we do all these security meetings behind closed doors and those who come and show up participate um it's all you know in secret and the community can't actually understand what's going on I feel like as a board you've hidden behind the secrecy of it and because of that it has enabled you to spend money on things that were flashy and fun and the community liked but we have to focus on the needs and the needs are to get our security to

254where they need to be thank you Dr PCA few things um just on that aspect I went to Child Care Resources they had um a speaker who used to be with the CIA was he Dr Mo CIA I believe so yes yeah um on safety for for preschool students and that's not anything I had seen before and it was really really good um as we've talked about both homecoming parades were great crown jewel again a great event for our students uh the Wabasso inclusion walk with Storm Grove uh joining them this year was excellent uh weasel always does a great job with that um the Halloween activity trunk Retreat for our prek and a lot of our departments participated in that and they were all um yes there was a little candy they all learned

255something too they all learned something um going back for a while um legislative delegation great job by Dr Moore that day college game day at the um Community I'm sorry the college game day when we had the students band cheerleaders uh recognizing the band and the athletes it's always fun and uh visiting schools with the Learning Alliance the moonshot school vbe and Rosewood magnet getting into several classrooms was great and um the community leaders Quail Valley had a great speaker and when he started talking kept thinking about alternative school and career and what can we do and they have a a new site 54,000 square feet in Fort Lauderdale just working with younger people and their patents and what they can do differently in education and I got an invite to Beachin PTA and their

256work for students I don't get to a lot of PTA meetings but these parents work so very very hard just like all of our other volunteers so um it's been busy the day of caring um which was on at Dodger toown Miss Rosario was there myself Dr Moore a lot of um staff members I went to Ira and my husband and I helped with um the groundskeeping there and as Miss Rosario said this this um Ceremony this morning with the Wilson family and the grace family really talked about what a Community Partnership can do and um no we don't mention his name quite a bit but Mr Bass with the company that did our football field our beach volleyball and now our track they've done a great job and they are moving so quickly um

257your goal and Dr Moore's goal was to get it ready for track season so we'd finally have a home track for these kids and uh I'm going put push that fhsa to get a state event here maybe some year um I've been to Economic Development Council executive round table and um again I know we talked about it but Senator Mayfield and um representative bracket they did a great job of helping us get that money along with Mr Hart and asking of all that and Miss Emerson so any U talk yes can I speak yes I'm sorry I saw you grabbing Cav I was I was G to go that way first I'm sorry go ahead honey um I to went to the childcare resources um event that we were all invited to and I know

258um doc when I went um the CIA uh no he was Secret Service not CIA was he Secret Service okay um and he had an interesting background at was secret service for a president and uh yeah really had some great insight as to some things that um we need to consider so talk about safety you know I've been to every safety meeting there is except for this last one because I had a family emergency so sometimes that happens and um what I'd like to see more of is board members going in to walk our schools because that's just as important why we're up here it's Safety First yes um but what is happening actually in my public schools not what is perceived to be happening but what is actually happening um so one of the

259things that he did was uh you know I try to go to as many events as I can I am not fully retired like you so I try to make as many as I can but the inclusion walk where Storm Grove came over toaso and they walked together um I got my steps in that day and it was awesome but it was nice to see that camaraderie with the kids um of course the graves groundbreaking this morning I had to teach but I got there at the end and it it was the first time I actually got to see what was actually happening behind that fence so it was nice to see that we're actually see an outline of a track already um there are so many groups that help put that together and of

260course the Wilson's and the graves um thank you to them and to our um legislators for helping us with that uh homecoming parade was cute um it's nice that they're bringing those back so we really appreciate that and of course ver Beach High School football I want to that game and it was awesome um I went to PTA meeting and got invited to and um you know we get invited to a lot of different things but I had never really been to a PTA meeting other than when I was a parent or a a a principal so it was interesting to see kind of what's going on now with ptas uh they're very together and um I did attend today the federal relations subcommittee for fsba uh we are no longer associated with the um

261the National fsba Association that we used to be associated with because of political reasons and now we're associated with cospa I think it's called don't ask me what that stands for right now um but one of the things that you're going to see is a letter that they want to devise on behalf of our state to the federal uh legislators and one of the items in there is about the um putting on the Forefront The Vaping epidemic and so I was so happy of course to hear about that cuz I'm always trying to you know what can we do about The Vaping so um they want and one of the suggestions I said is you know data I do know I spoke to a representative bracket about that again today and uh he said that's

262on his Forefront as well uh The Vaping among other things so um those are kind of just the items that I've been dealing with for the last week right thank you Dr Moore superintendent any more Clos I just want to thank staff who who are still here and and look brigh eyed and bushy tailed and ready to work for there you go Mr Fagan um you all continue to set the example regardless of your area of responsibility that the line is growing extremely long for districts who want to come in and see uh the work that each of you lead so I can't thank you all enough for the work that you're doing uh and ultimately what no better compliment them coming in to try to learn uh for the work that you do each

263and every single day so it is strong it is powerful is absolutely outstanding work thank you okay board member Mo need a motion to adjourn please move and a second second all right all in favor adjourning I I this meeting is adjourned at 9:44 p.m. thank you for coming