001even if you've got three rows okay uh open new jersey's open public meetings law was enacted to ensure the right of the public to have advanced notice of and to attend meetings of public bodies at which time any business affecting their interests is discussed and acted upon in accordance with the provisions of this act and board of education policy zero 162 the board of education of the borough of bound brook has caused notice of this meeting to be posted in the board office and at mound of high school and mail them back to the courier news download borough or the southbound of the board of education and any person who has requested individual notice and paid the required faith please stand to pledge i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america
002and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and [Music] justice [Music] okay at this time um i wanted to share with the board uh we had advertised um to film this stephen's seat and so there were three people who have um asked to be considered um mr deluxe was a former board member and he uh put in a letter and his resume i'll read his letter he can't be with us this evening he did let me know that he was taking the coven vaccine yesterday and in fact he has 102 fever and the chill so he will not be here tonight but i do want to read i will read that letter and then i have the letters from the other two and if they are here in
003attendance uh that would be time for us to be able to ask any questions so uh the letter i received from mr del vecchio says dear president defazio and board members please accept this letter as interest to fill the seat of resigning board member camilla stevens i was a former board member and served from april 2010 through august 2018 my resignation was due to personal family reasons during my years as a board member i believe i contributed positively to productive policies during many challenging times based on my work experience i believe i also added an additional viewpoint to these issues and policies thank you for your consideration nick del vecchio okay and i will get the resume printed out so we can take a look at that i have a letter from mr minhas are
004you hearing this evening okay so i will just read his letter to you uh dear dr gallagher uh i would like to express my interest to become a member of the board of of the board at the downbrook board of education as a first generation immigrant that has lived in new jersey for over 37 years i understand the value of a good education i would be honored to take on this exciting responsibility to provide the best for our students their teachers and the rest of the boundary school district for the past 20 years i've worked as a business analyst for various fortune 500 companies like metlife jp morgan prudential and others my main responsibility is to ensure the vision of the project gets realized i've been part of teams that have improved people's way of
005life for example in met life i ran projects to provide a mobile app to citizens in the middle east that allowed them to find nearby doctors pharmacies and clinics our mobile app was limited due to the available wireless bandwidth in the area my metlife peers voted the mobile app as the best customer facing app for 2016. we were able to utilize a weakness and present an experience that had impact to our customers in the region i believe i can utilize this experience to help serve the community through the board of education i am a team player and capable of collaborating with all types of individuals to achieve the goals i regularly have to communicate with my peers developers customers executive leaders and have no qualms about doing so with the community i am fully capable
006of keeping the public informed of the board's progress and challenges as a child my parents the parents of my friends and the local community work with the board to provide for strong public schools and to focus on what is best for all students as a father i want to do the same that my parents and others did i want to honor them by taking the same steps they did to work together to provide for a strong public school for our community despite it despite my lack of college degree i have been able to repeatedly display my talents i believe this will help me relate to those students that are on the fence about secondary education i can use my experiences to allow them to make the best decision for their future i take great pride
007at work in being able to deliver completed projects for my colleagues this allows them to complete their work faster thus enabling them to have more time for themselves i will utilize the same passion to serve as my board teammates students and their parents i want to prepare the next generation of leaders to ensure the content within high school prepares students beyond graduation and allows them to thrive in any setting whether it's a four-year university a technical school the military or the workplace if chosen i would be honored to work with the president members and be a team player sincerely mr minhass and then is mr januzzi here okay so i'm going to read your letter the same i did and then would you feel comfortable if the board had any questions since you're here anyway
008okay right thank you dear sir sir i understand lesson i understand that you are in the process of searching for an individual to fill the uninspired term miss camilla stevens please accept this as my letter of application as my enclosed resume indicates i have a combination of professional and volunteer experiences that put me in a unique position to support the mission and vision of the board the founder board of education my professional experience includes serving the roles of progressive experience currently leading a group of 18 professionals staff and several thousand volunteers in the financial management of scientific conferences around the world as a volunteer i have served as a member of the recreation commission since 2016 and as chairman since 2019 leading the group to adopt new technologies create new programs aggressively advocate for facility
009improvements evolve governance and policy managed from the pandemic and established long-range operational and strategic goals thank you for your time and consideration i wish you all well in your service and look forward to hearing from you soon sincerely richard januzzi if you'd like to come on up to the podium i guess thank you so much for making it this evening um i guess if there's anyone on the board that has any specific questions they want to ask i do go ahead hi um question now are you currently the chairman of the rec commission in town yes i am what do you if you were brought to the board what were your plans would you continue with that position or would you resign my intent would be to continue i would resign if necessary but i
010do like the work that we do with the recreation commission i'm very passionate about that um so if at all possible i'd like to continue both okay and i i just asked the same thing as why do you want to be on the board besides yeah so um you know i happen to have four children who are in the district uh ages let's see if i get this right i won't tell you why thank you five through 12. um so obviously a vested interest in what's happening uh educational wise um also just as a regular taxpayer and a general advocate uh more interested in what's going on within the district uh want to be informed want to be a part of uh you know making better solutions same thing probably you guys are all up
011there for okay thank you so how did you hear about that we had an opening uh it was uh that's a great question uh my wife nominally i'm not exactly sure where she found out from but uh certainly when i found out that there was an opening i was definitely interested and wanted to write to you guys as soon as possible okay does anyone else have any questions i'm very excited because uh you know having one position in three people with there were years i mean i've been on the board in the last election yeah yeah like there's so many times where we we don't have anyone that wants to be on it to have three very qualified people coming is great so thank you so much for coming and speaking with us absolutely thank
012you thank you all right uh now we are up to the superintendent's report yes i can see there's some people here advocating for me as always so that's always good to see um but i would like to uh make mention that i i think i've been kind of crystal clear um that my intent is not to uh ask for another contract um i'm actually gonna be exercising my applause in my contract to uh go back to being a principal or some other position in the district when my contract is up so um that's really not an option at the moment renewable for me so just want to make that clear to everybody so i don't know where you're getting your information from but i've been kind of crystal clear about that um if anybody thinks
013that this job is worth fighting for um please i advocate that you should come do this job take on this job and do some of the things that needs to be done especially during a pandemic um this has been a very difficult year year and a half to say the least um and quite frankly it's been very very taxing on me and my family and my health so uh i'm looking forward to taking that step back and going back to the ability to deal with kids so thank you very much all right um at this time you're gonna go we're going to just move executive up to the front because there's things that we need to talk about up front um prior to the meeting starting so that's the only change that we're going to
014make we're going to move that up to now we're going into an executive for number one a matter of rendered confidential by federal or state law number three material the disclosure which constitutes an unwarranted invasion of individual privacy four a collective bargaining agreement and or negotiations related to it seven pending or anticipated litigation or contract negotiations and or matters of attorney client privilege a specific perspective or current employees unless all which will be adversely affected requested an open session uh can i get a motion to go into executive motion can i get a sentence all in favor all right all right we will we're going to take a minute out for an executive and we will [Music] return all right um we're going to be back into open uh session i will say um um
015because two of the people who are applying for the board position are not here to interview we are going to get in touch with them um to try and make the meeting on the 24th after that time we will definitely make a decision i will share your resumes with the rest of the board i will have photocopies of that between now and then um if you're more than welcome to come back that evening if you'd like um but you've already you know we've already spoke to you that's totally up to you and then after next week's meeting we will make a decision but thank you thank you so much for coming um at this time we are up to open for the public for agenda items only is there anyone that wants to talk about
016anything that's on the agenda see none all right there's one online tommy girl what's up i know we had a question from mrs reilly who left yeah and she was asking about the side letter of agreement as it was not attached to the agenda and i think it was because it was not yet signed by different child so when we have that sign which we did later today okay so she was she was asking about the sidewalk agreement with the bba um for the summer work i just signed up here this evening so once that is uh that will go online as soon as as possible yeah that's all i don't know [Music] [Applause] and i just have a question about point six stage of assange for needle and elementary um i just noticed that
017there's a one teacher there um an asi teacher and she will be a sixth grade teacher so i just wanna make i just wanna my question is will she be a full-time teacher yeah she's moving from the asi into the sixth grade position right okay i just want to make sure that she'll be able to perform her job because previously she was a teacher of my son and she was always out so i just want to make sure that you are aware of that miss langosky was speaking yes yeah we're not allowed to really discuss personnel issues in public but we've heard what you've had to say does anyone else have anything from the agenda [Music] which is approval of the minutes it resolved that the board of boundary board of education approves the minutes
018for the following meetings uh does anyone have any comments or questions or does anyone else have to abstain can i get a wrong [Music] yes yes six personnel resolutions district and high school you resolve that the superintendent recommends for approval the resolution is outlined in personnel resolutions under district in high [Music] yes yes yes morris yes this is mom selling yes it's about there yes yes yes seven uh being resolved the superintendent recommends for approval the resolutions is outlined in personnel resolutions under middle and elementary schools may i get an option motion mr val can i get a second [Music] um yes i think that you would have to make a motion to do that and then the board would have to agree to table that correct if she wants to table something within a
019resolution if she wants to table that particular person's the vote on that particular position she would have to then make a motion to table that particular thing and then we would have to vote on whether or not okay so mr uzumani would like to make a resolution you're not like to make a motion to uh table the vote on a particular employee do you want to just do the whole set or just her name within that document um can we can she table just that particular person as opposed to 7.6 is a list of can i get a motion [Music] hearing none we will just vote on it as is does that any other questions hearing none can i get a roll call for the whole i'm sure mr bail yes yes you can vote
020now if you want okay mr thompson yes it's the battle there [Music] board of education approves the resolutions as outlined in education i'm really excited to see we have field trips happening again [Music] yes uh 9.1 resolve the boundary board of education includes the resolutions as outlined in education resolutions under middle and elementary schools 9.2 can i get a motion motion mr second second is mars i need comments on that one hearing none can i get a roll call mr bell yes martinez yes [Music] yes and financial resolution is 10.2 to 10.1010 um awesome i this person gave me a donation uh is that someone that like how [Music] uh it's a contraption that they'll be using it's like to use marbles and gravity so it's just a stem activity in the fall we'll be
021having an after-school enrichment club for our students that are part of the district identified enrichment program so it goes to materials and supplies for that cloud awesome well thank them for thinking of us any other comments or oh i have a question with 10.7 so that's the same you had is any [Music] yes [Music] yes [Music] any new business yeah um so we're doing i i don't need my phone all right okay just tell them you can't hear me can you guys hear me back there okay no it's just excited that their their art club is going back downtown is there any way we can get this lettering to take some pictures and we can see the pictures of the windows they do phenomenal work and uh you know i know my daughter loved going
022downtown doing that so i'm just glad to see it happening again i'd love to maybe if they can come in and do a presentation i think they would be great to see it you know thank you ms smith i'm just excited to see all these people in the audience hopefully they'll come out when the kids you know when the when the kids get their awards that would be great yeah we'd be more people with other parents post them all we don't post on social media so it's done um just to clarify for that for other towns it's the parents who post about it on the pages and stuff like that it's not the board that directly does it um and it's publicized at least 24 hours in advance in local newspapers and everything so we
023follow the sunshine law so anything that is public knowledge people will see in advance like every other district all right at this point is there any anything new all right so at this point we are open to the public for discussion anything that's whether it's on the agenda or not if you want to come forward and say something just state your name and address my name is and i'm here tonight i am retiring as the accounts fabled person um and i just wanted to take this opportunity to thank dr gallagher for everything he has done for me and this district um i see there's a couple critics in here and maybe a little history when i first started here there was a ba who did not believe in public education the superintendent did like nine
024toes out the door and i was told by my superintendent i sat where you are on the board of education and she told me to run and run really fast because of some of the things that were going on here and i almost did and i met dr gallagher i had the opportunity to work with him in the high school and i saw what he did in high school the passion he had for his students and for education and that's when i decided to stay fast forward through a lot of turmoil the va left the superintendent retired and they appointed dr gallagher and the way he turned the high school around and very short order he turned his district around his passion his belief in the students that every child coming in like every child
025had work just rang through the entire district instead of high school and i just found that to be extremely refreshing and and wonderful for this district turn around and very short of it and it's been a pleasure to work here all this time now um well i'm a little shocked i have to say about dr gallagher's announcement i do understand and told that this past year um i saw him work just out of bounds of anybody and trying to make sure that these students were educated safely in person as much as possible everything he did was for those kids and i appreciate everything you've done for me dr caliber um i'm happy to have been able to work with you as colleague as a have you like my boss and um thank you all on
026the board thank you so much [Music] does anyone else wish to come forward just state your name and address you got it my name is brooke polycaster and i'm at 403 and i'm not out um so i'm not a fan of dr gallagher's i think my science clearly posts that um there's a lot of reasons um some of it being the hostile treatment and the toxic work environment that we've heard a lot from teachers um the fact that we've had a lot of teachers either resign or be fired or non-read or non-renewed since 2016 and i think that teachers not coming back um deciding to leave it's not always for a bigger better paycheck many times we've had admin we have had teachers leave for lateral positions for nominal amounts of pay indifference and i
027think that speaks to it should ask the question why are they not staying what is it about being here that they why don't they want to stay so that's something to most definitely look into and i believe that um the district did do that but it was at hand for research that they did poll right so the research has been gathered about that and i'm curious to know if we as parents or we as um taxpayers get to know any of those results and if so when we would be able to see that i believe once i think they're posting on we're done with all of those attached to it okay so i don't know which dates they are but yeah i thought that was going to be my next question okay i don't know
028but i know that they were i know when we were in the when we were in the cafeteria whole presentation okay to the public at that point to go over and so that was prior to us prior to coving has there been one since covet has happened is there one recently has there been a reason no and there hasn't been one like during the school year at all no okay um dr gallagher since you have said that you have made it emphatically clear that this is not a job or a position that you're really thrilled about any longer and that you have no intention of continuing beyond your current contract i was wondering how did you make it clear did you submit a letter of resignation or intention to leave i'm a tenured employee of
029the district so i will be going to a different position in the district okay we'll let you know at the end of the contract where i'll go okay so but at any given point in time do you have to submit i don't because obviously i am not a tenured professional so i don't know how it works um do you have to submit a letter at any given point in time to let them know that this is your intention like if the board wanted to if they had an intention to not renew your contract they would have to submit by writing by a certain date that they did not have that intention do you also have to submit in writing to the board by a certain time that is not your intention i'm sorry my notification
030goes to the board president okay is it specific and how it's supposed to be okay that's cool all right thank you hello how are you for those who do not recognize me my name is marty gleason i was a board member for oh maybe 20 years maybe a little more maybe a little less it seemed like 30 years uh i am now resident of the fine township scadaway i just thought tonight i would come and warn the board to the perils of superintendent searches i was lucky enough to be involved in quite a few of them and i'd like to go over a little history with you uh when i first got on the board the superintendent of schools was a man named dr osborne abby the board didn't like him because he wanted to
031turn the district into a special ed super district where we would take in special ed students from all over the state because we had so much room in our buildings how much room do we have in our buildings from that date back that was in the 90s to today we've had two building campaigns since then we've moved into two catholic schools so we can see how that plan would have gone uh from there we had a very extensive board superintendent search led by some very erudite and older board members i was a young board member at the time i was in my 20s i didn't really understand being on the board i remember a shocking thing was said to me when i was frustrated with other board members and someone said to me people's perception
032is their reality and that was one of the great life lessons of my life to understand when i'm dealing with people their perception is their reality and i'm not going to convince them that i am correct and we went through an extensive search and and we had open forums with the the candidates we did all kinds of things and i wasn't a big fan of the person we were hiring and if i do say so myself he was a train wreck he liked to hire alternative route teachers so he hired this diminutive little man to teach science who had no ability to manage a classroom and i don't care where you go to school i don't care what degrees you hold my opinion after being on school board and being a student for so many
033years is that the best thing a teacher can do is manage his classroom and make people want to listen to him i don't care if you went to cornell or raritan valley community college this man did not see it that way and we ended up with a staff of incompetent boobs excuse my language and after three years he had to go and it wasn't just bound brook and our unique problems this man was fired at two other districts after he left after dr byron we had dan blatchford we brought him up from high school principal he was a wonderful superintendent a wonderful man but guess what wonderful people also can get higher paying jobs this is a small district uh dr blackford ended up down in hamilton the capital of blueberries and a much bigger
034district than bound brook and a much easier district to superintend in this district because this district has many challenges you board members know after that they hired i was off the school board and they hired a woman dr deborah alexander and all i can say about dr alexander is you would make your impassioned plea to her and she would listen and then she would say absolutely not and she did it to everyone and that wore out her welcome and it also got me to run for board that's like why i always like to call myself the grover cleveland of school board members uh so i was re-elected to the board and this time i guess i was a little older a little wiser and the board president quickly resigned after about three weeks of being
035bored president it was a little more than he thought he could handle rest in peace mr mickel and we we did another search and we found dr hoffman and dr hoffman was a wonderful man but the one thing is dr hoffman was later in his career and people who are later in their career they don't have to always give a poop you know they can just let things pass and some things can pass and i guess when we hire dr gallagher that's how things change what i can tell you he's a doer he's a doer i remember some people coming to a board meeting and saying the schools have to be air conditioned now as a graduate of this fine school and having my whole career through the school sweating in this school i can
036tell you i thought that would never happen it happened why because the man to do it you you've got a bond referendum passed at in your first shot that's not easy to do i i was part of one that took three shots and i'm i'm only here to say you know friction is rough and i i one of the most disturbing things that ever happened to me as a board member was when an employee a teacher who i loved who was a good teacher came up to me and said i'm gonna get that person fired i'm a board member and you're telling me you're gonna get someone fired well let me tell you something some wrestling coaches in uh phillipsburg just tried to do that and they were taken out of the school in cups
037it's incorrect behavior i'm sorry and as far as i was concerned and that became the big thing giving the superintendent a five-year contract because after a year and a half you could make the superintendent look bad and run them out of district and the inmates were running the asylum as as i said so i i just think be careful for what you wish for because it's better to have the devil you know because i can tell you this about superintendent searches you're going to be lied to a school district is just going to want to get rid of somebody and they're going to give you a glowing review of someone they're going to say oh he's wonderful they're not going to let you know he molested three kids and that's what he's accused of you're
038not going to find out you're not going to find out we all know that we have any knowledge of education that people can go from district to district with terrible transgressions my wrestling coach here he impregnated a fellow student of mine and never lost his job times have changed but that's the way things worked people covered it up and that's disgusting and and so you have to be careful number one number two you are an entry-level position an entry-level position in a super super challenging district a a district with an explosion in apartment buildings uh probably one of the most diverse student bodies in the state of new jersey you're still grossly underfunded and at least when i was on school board if it's changed let me know i believe you can only pay your
039superintendent so much due to the size of your school correct is that still the story so if i go to scout away i can get a much higher paycheck correct if that's a much bigger school okay so you got to remember what are you going to get what are you going to get and i just went over what we got in my time on school board and it's not a glowing it's not a glowing list of outstanding candidates i'm sorry my phone off i thought i turned it off uh what i suggest at this point is if you have a problem with your superintendent that's what personal improvement goals are for you tell your superintendent we want to do this better we want to do that better and you hold their feet to the fire
040it's what i tried to do as a school board member i tried to do it with a smile and with a funny joke but i really tried when i was on school board to move things forward and the last thing i would say is no people's intentions when when the teachers are talking in your ears know their intentions i would invite you someday to put up because i bet it's still the same when i was on school board the amount of grievances that are filed by this union and how many they win how many they went because i know my last year on school board it was 22 grievances with one win to me that's abusive behavior thank you good night i never plan to be back here again i love you all it's nice
041to see you everyone i know just state your name and address can i pull my mask down yes thank you hi i'm i'm lisa gazino i live at 768 washong avenue platform road um i'm here tonight and i worked a double shift and i came here right after i'm sorry i'm a little late so i missed a lot of weekend but i'm here because i think baumbrook has issues and i think that there's some discontent within the district and within the population of the district and i'm not a teacher so i can't speak on behalf of being a teacher understanding that or being part of a school board and what you guys do every day that i can look at a school board and i can look at a governing body of this school district
042and i can say that it feels like it's broken i can look at it and say i feel like if this was a company and i hate to even pull in the word corporation or business or operations or standards but when i look at how things are run i look at it and say things aren't happening the way they should be happening i've lived in the district i've lived in bound work my husband and i moved here with my son 13 years ago and the district has been in trouble for 13 years we've struggled we've been a title one district we've had financial issues we've had cultural issues and i look at you guys as the board as the superintendent as the assistant superintendent and i say to myself if this was a business if
043this was a corporation if we were in charge of moving ourselves forward and making a difference we would be failing and so i i don't know a lot about dr gallagher i'm sorry i just i don't but i have to say that things don't seem to be running well and as a taxpayer as someone who has a child in the district i just have to say to myself could we do better can we can we perform better and does the leadership of this group does the leadership of this business as a school district can it be better and i just have to say can we ask ourselves can we can we improve on on where we're at can we be more creative can we come up with different solutions for things that we've had problems
044for for the last 10 years can we evolve into something bigger and better than what we're doing right now and i have to say like if we don't try then is it not possible so i'm just frustrated as a taxpayer as a mom that the district hasn't been able to do things that our neighboring districts have been able to do we pay high taxes brook is not cheap to live in as far as the taxes go we put a lot of money in but we don't seem to get a lot out there are a lot of extracurricular activities there are a lot of things that i feel other districts are doing thinking creatively clubs extracurricular activities teachers feel impacted to do things when they feel like there's progress and i just feel like bombard is
045lacking a lot of progress and if we stay stagnant then we'll never ever change and if we don't think we can do any better then we'll never do any better and again it's not against dr gallagher but i have to say to myself if this was a company and a ceo was leaving this company and the margins were increasing and the profit wasn't increasing then there would be change and that's all i have to say thank you thank you [Music] hello lauren paxton president of the bbei i just want to thank you for uh sticking with the uh the 11th month uh proposal um it wasn't easy but we got it done um and to um what miss uh castro was asking about i think um what she was referring to is the hanover focus
046group that was just completed you know we were asking that if those results that those results would be the professional development okay but we have not got the results of that yet okay so what she said all right so mr miss pablo i think that's what she's uh yeah so if the focus group it was just a small focus group about professional development opportunities to move the district forward but we have not gotten that back yet i thought you were referring to the general parents students teachers that whole that whole thing took place over a year ago just a quick follow-up on that the questions that i asked about would then apply to this professional um when do you anticipate results and will they be publicized in the same fashion yes they will absolutely be
047publicized and we're not sure when they're coming in yeah we just got done with the we had the meeting today um diversity equity and inclusion uh so today was the last meeting that was on the first survey that we did the the focus groups is the second so we're just finishing off the first we haven't even got to set it so we're not talking to probably late june july okay so towards the end of this year at the beginning of the summer okay thank you you're welcome hello my name is emery gianaro i live at 151 west high street um i just came here tonight you know i don't really like to be involved in these things but the past two years i've been trying to be involved as much as possible i have two
048kids in the district and they're involved in sports i consider myself to be very involved in education i call check the teachers i call principals if i have concerns and talk to teachers when we are allowed to be you know my kids are virtual and it's just a continual they feel beaten up they feel nuts they feel disrespected they don't feel encouraged they give a hundred percent but can you imagine if they felt supported how much they would do for the kids our kids deserve better i think our experts are better our teachers deserve better and i just hope the board really takes that into consideration thank you thank you anyone else there's one question okay there's one online question um this is from diane pavlichko she said last week was teacher appreciation week i'd
049like to take a moment to thank mrs fisher for showing her appreciation and acknowledging and teaching teachers and staff for their hard work this year i'd also like to make note that no acknowledgement or thank you was sent by dr gallagher to his teachers or staff in this extra difficult year where teachers are working twice as hard as theirs with their students in person and virtual teaching them simultaneously keeping everyone on track and doing their best no thank you or acknowledgement of their hard work was made by the superintendent a simple email is really all that was needed recognizing their hard work and dedication through this crazy school year on a side note that dr goliver was on vacation last week i was on vacation last week i was out of state and i did
050send thank you notes to my teachers constantly especially during this time i've done so all year long as well as last year especially during this difficult time of doing hybrid and in person but it is very very difficult i'm also advocating all the time in all my meetings on the state level as well as on a county level advocating for in-person learning for next year and not having any virtual for next year because i just think it's way too demanding on our teachers right now and i can't see us doing that again next year [Music] okay any other questions or comments all right at this time we are going to move to uh 15 which is hiv for the board of education the approval of the resolutions is outlined in approval of the hip cases
051under high school 15.2 can i get a motion motion martinez can i get a second okay mr thomas roll call please mr brown yes yes yes yes [Music] yes yes so yes yes 16 resolve the downward board of education the approval of the resolution is outlined in approval of cases under middle and elementary schools can i get a motion i'll show you yes [Music] yes yes uh at this time i need a motion to adjourn emotion mr val the second was smart all in favor thank you all for coming and we'll see the next time foreign