001[Music] [Applause] [Music] for [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] it's not easy being the one everyone counts on to keep your operation running that's why at Granger we're here for you with professional great industrial supplies and fast delivery call click granger.com or just stop by Granger for the ones who get it done [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] it turns on and then [Music] hello everyone um division Chief Tom aula has an announcement to make if I could have the room quiet down so you could hear his announcement please all right good even can you hear me hopefully okay thank you so um thank you for attending my name is Tom Al division
002Chief Wattsville fire department on behalf of Chief Lopez the Fire Marshall for the city of Watsonville we have to uh address some occupancy issues okay so um if you're not sitting or between the doors in one row standing you need to go either the other options are uh into the hallway along one wall where you should be able to hear the audio and then around the corner I think it is right around the corner the hallways is Overflow that can hold uh 50 to 60 people so the meeting won't start until we get those uh meet those um requirements youou when for for thank you so um yeah so the gentlemen in the doorways and standing to the left right there we appreciate your cooperation everybody's cooperation understanding so the only standing room that we
003will have is in between the two doors and not in not in the doorway perfect thank you thank you very much thank you deputy chief trara I am now going to call this meeting to order at 5:36 Welcome to our PVD special board meeting this meeting will be live streamed and recorded if someone would like to speak to an item on the agenda they must complete a speaker card and hand it to Eva Dena prior to the beginning of the agenda item 3.1 public comment each speaker will have two minutes and we are going to cap that at a 30 at a maximum of 30 minutes um I know I know I'm going to be the most hated person tonight but what we are discussing tonight we have we discussed at our last board meeting
004there's nothing new we have heard you all and um we need to we we made really difficult decisions at ungodly hours and we're not going to um do that again tonight so I am going to uh follow our board policy and I hope that you all will respect that um sorry I see a lot of new faces here tonight so I want to take a moment to establish some ground rules there may be differences of opinions sometimes strong differences um people give ple please give those speaking the same respect that you would like to receive when you are speaking this will allow everyone to be heard and the board to conduct its necessary business okay so now I am going to ask um trustee Gasco would you like to lead us in the pledge of
005Al sorry in the Pledge of Allegiance okay and um also before we move on some might be wondering why we are having this special board meeting and uh even maybe a TR some trustees might be wondering why when yes I I I clearly saw your message um I as board president if a trustee want of a descending vote asks for an item to be brought back it is my duty to bring that back so that is why we are here tonight um I am going to move us on to item two approval of the agenda can I have a oh sorry we do have a speaker to this item Nelly vaka good evening board what my request is is to extend the amount of time to allow all of our people to be able to
006speak it's unjust already that you called a meeting 20 with 24 hours notice to discuss something that is difficult yeah but you know what it's people's jobs in this District um and they want to be able to speak their truth and only providing a 30 minute limit is a way to oppress the people who are impacted so I ask that this board allow every single speaker to have their time to speak thank you thank you okay so now can I have a motion to approve the agenda okay truste uh Navaro has made a motion to approve the agenda can I have a second I'll second thank you I have a first and a second all those in favor I any opposing I oppos any abstaining sure thank you um an explanation like we talked about
007oh it's not on here um I so after um once we get to the action items we will have uh time to discuss would you like to wait till then or did you want to make that now like I kind of feel like it needs to happen now okay I feel like people deserve so we have a first and a second on the table and we took a vote but I could redo that but yes go ahead and make your um statement that's fine now okay so I have some things prepared not fully but I felt like everybody here um deserves an explanation um and I am the one that brought this forward um and I did so because I had a lot more questions and I hope to get some of those questions answered
008tonight it was an attempt to um bring forward some more um Clarity and transparency um around what I felt like was um what I've been calling a peanut in a cake and if you're allergic to peanuts that means the whole cake has to go and so I as you saw it's um kind of chunked up so that we can go over it a little bit more readily and get some more explanation there are some other things that nobody is talking about that are a huge concern for me that I'll bring up later um so I thank you all for your patience um and I hope that you get some answers as well um it is an attempt to help the budget and again get some clarity around it I've made no promises and I don't
009know if I I don't know where this is going to go so I I I apologize for for bringing you I apologize for bringing you out and and causing unrest um but I I really had these questions that I needed answered it was not enough time for me me last time so thank you okay thank you so um if I saw the vote correctly uh let's just start over because I want to make sure so all those in favor I any opposing any abstaining okay so motion passes 1 2 3 4 5 1 one and I just want to also let everyone know that trusty Dodge is is um not feeling well and is has an excuse absence for tonight okay now I'm going to move us on to item um three our public comment
010on our agenda item uh related items so this is the time for anyone who would like to speak on the action items that we have on tonight's board meeting truste uh Navaro will call you up in fives before we again um I would like to make a motion to suspend the rules I'm sorry that you are not allowed to make a motion I have looked into Robert's Rules and I've asked our legal counsel and so we are proceeding thank you so I can't make a motion right now and why is that can you cannot we are we are continuing as the agenda is laid out okay well then I would like to uh challenge the chair on that you know Robert's Rules right I'm challenging you on that okay so what I you're the president
011I'm gonna let you figure it out I do have one thing that someone had did send to me because of your conduct on this board as of recently um I'm sad it's interesting I'm just glad you guys don't have pitchforks like the image showed that that was that was an interesting image President board president Flores I believe that the board president does have the right to I yes and I know that because I did speak with legal counsel about that when you did this in our first first board meeting and I was told it is not allowed if I want to make that motion I can I chose not to tonight so am I not being recognized right now no no okay so go ahead and call our speakers up please um I we're going
012to go for 30 minutes and I will set the timer as soon as the first speaker speaker starts I ask that you allow that go into that 30 minutes if you're going to play that game then the community deserves opportunity to identify our speak so I ask respect yeah that's fine [Applause] yes believe e for e for e for e all right um people in the Overflow room and the audience this is uh Brandon Denise speaking so we have called for a caucus to identify 30 speakers because the board is refusing to allow more than 30 minutes of public comment we're trying to come up with the Democratic process on the all right thanks a lot Brian so um this is just a quick recap if you're in the Overflow room and you're confused as
013all hell the board is only allowing 30 minutes of public comment and they are going to be firm with that so we have asked for a caucus to identify 30 speakers from the community to speak tonight I understand that that is a really hard decision to make and who gets to speak and who's not who doesn't it's super unfair that's the board's fault so we have identified a list of 30 speakers from the community trying to prioritize our labor Partners our students our community and our counselors of mental health support this is the best we can do with an autocratic board president who doesn't quite understand Robert's Rules but it's trying so this is the most respectful way we can go about this and this is brought on by the board calling a special meeting
014on 24 hours notice and then intentionally limiting public comment so don't be mad at Brandon I'm just trying to do our best to make sure that we can get those comments and we try to find a way to prioritize people if you were left out you should be emailing the board and telling them about that cuz this is on them [Applause] Brandon well if someone comes to speak no if someone comes to speak and they're not on that list this is the list that the community has given you this is the list of 30 speakers who will be speaking tonight they all have a card in so we're not going to go calling cards and give people the opportunity to speak who the community I'm sorry Brandon we are doing 30 minutes we are giving
015each speaker two minutes if they if Community the commun if they want to take less than their two minutes that's fine the community is re more more people to speak if we do that at during our caucus we identified 30 speakers willing to speak for one minute each I don't think you speak for every single person here it's not me we generated this list together as a community democratically it's not me so I look I'm really I see the first name on here is Marie sheckman are you part of that group he's on the list double check are you on the list yeah the community so why can't we call the cards because you're going to then go call 40 people who aren't on the [Music] [Applause] list sorry this is I tried I tried
01630 people who want to speak for one minute each coming from the community we tried our best so I'm gonna call out names if you've yielded your time because you're on this list you can just not come to the podium Murray sheckman Susan Bry Katie Chris CHR kriscunas sorry uh Dr vichet Ashley Euro flowers and critis fox you ready first I want to say I miss everyone I have officially retired I did not go back to San Jose State I will try and finish in one minute the battle unfortunately that we feel here tonight should be in Sacramento we are still 19th out of 50 the state of New York spends $9,000 more per kid than we do but but that doesn't help us here tonight I'm here because I believe in fiscal solvency I've
017been in two districts that have been taken over where you lost your Authority you're not close to that now this district has been well-run you've used attrition in a very good way to try and keep things balanced but you've got a lot of one-time funds that you use to help during covid and you have to deal with it San Francisco is looking at 800 teachers tonight to cut off I don't know if you knew this when I was superintendent my whole cabinet bailed on me they all left every one of them Claudia came in the middle Jenny came and I want to talk a little about Jenny Jenny did such a good job on her interim reports that she was grabbed by you she was grabbed by your new superintendent and certainly encouraged by me
018to step up to be a CBO she's honest she is hardworking but the best thing I can say about Jen is she's got a heart that works so well she would never let bad things happen and if the district gets taken over it which it won't it's bad the other thing I want to talk about is I was privileged to be part of the interviews when Dr Contreras was hired and I actually asked a pretty good question of her and I'm really honored that she's here there's transparency she is facing some very difficult decisions and quite honestly what you're facing tonight will not be your hardest decision in your tenure as the board but I appreciated Olivia my former student at a ea Hall starting off with respect no matter how you feel no matter
019how hard it is it's all about respect thank you so much go Paro prioriti students please sorry we can't have the shouting out we will clear the room if we have that thank you put the volume hear the hallway Sylvester is there a way to turn up the volume he's working on it thank you board chair Vice chair superintendent and Board of Trustees and every single member of this meeting thank you so much for rescheduling so we could have more time to have discussions about where we are my name is Susan bruchie I'm an Ur while volunteer and many different ways I will spare you the time and say that the one that I'm most excited about is being on the district advisory committee and you heard a mini report from them only two weeks
020ago I was really excited about being a part of that committee as well as many others because it was transformed under this new leadership and had so many more individuals Ste team members staff members community members and Families and I have to say that it took us quite a while to understand our task which is accountability outcomes and investment so we have a lot of sympathy for you as our leaders I am here to thank you for your reconsideration and for your intentionality about creating systems that continue to be transparent and transformational the last thing I want to to say is I really appreciated as a parent and grandparent in this District the way that we did share the covid funds they were incredibly important they live to this day because of the work that
021this board and other boards have taken we are able to sustain these efforts and I look forward to us sustaining more I tried to be a part of the sustainable budget team but it was a hard ticket to get and I just want to say I loved the transparency I could follow along with everything I know you're very interested in doing the everything you can to make wonderful decisions thank you so much we're with you good evening president Flores vice president Dr Navaro esteemed trustees and superintendent Dr contas as elected leaders you are entrusted with guiding our district through challenges and opportunities difficult choices are never easy but they are necessary for the health and future of our students and the community from the start DR contras took Swift action to address PB usd's financial
022position launching the attendance campaign and addressing overspending thanks to her direction we have made progress but obstacles still remain particularly with financial instability and declining enrollment the sustainable budget committee formed by Dr contras has worked openly to tackle these issues and through and the choices that had to be made were very very tough but they made a recommendation with onetime funds expiring and enrollment declining some positions are no longer viable trustees the responsibility is now yours to guide us forward with wisdom and foresight as a politician I understand these choices are difficult no one wants to make judgments that may cause discomfort but true leadership ship requires courage and accountability these actions may not be popular but they are necessary your guidance is vital to ensuring long-term Financial Health and Student Success please support these
023resolutions so we can secure a strong future for our district good evening president Flores vice president Dr Navaro Board of Trustees Dr contras my name is Katie kriscunas she her I am the I'm proud principal of lak view this evening um but also a parent of a student who attends Freedom Elementary and a student who attends Rolling Hills um as a member of the sustainable budget Committee of which I initially had strong reservations of not putting my name into due to the concerns right um of the impact that we'll have on our district I stepped back outside of myself and considered uh the community that I serve and the communities of which my kids attend school um it would be lost on me not to listen to the voice of the stakeholders at Lake View
024Middle School who do see visibly the challenges with declining enrollment and then I had to step outside of my role as a principal of Lake View middle and as a parent to consider the impact of the um budget crisis in our district on behalf of all middle schools I come here this evening just to thank you for stepping into a role of leadership that is nothing that I would want to imagine being in your shoes for um but I rest assured that when I represented on the sustainable budget committee I recognize the immense pressure and I wouldn't I don't want to do this um but I do think that something has to be done um otherwise I do worry about the future um and our flexibility to make decisions that we are in control of
025um I thank you and that's all I have to say board members trustees my name is Ashley AA flowers I'm csca chapter president and I have this speech right but I'm going to honor what our constituent said and I'm going to try to stick it to one minute yeah I am a PR I'm a parent right I was on the sustainable budget committee and we decided collectively that we were probably going to cut mostly from Administration and certificated that's not what was presented to CCA right that we were slapped in the face with classified members getting cut and it hurts what hurts more is that I received a phone call from Dr conteras at 6 o' last night saying I am so sorry that we are going to have a special board meeting and we're
026going back to the table again after we just had a meeting at 3:00 another and Dr contras I appreciate it but that was not transparency okay I need you guys to understand that what is happening is something that needs to happen and that should have happened for 5 years right but classified members should not have to bear the brunt of what administration failed to do we can make Financial responsible decisions tonight that does not impact our classified workers in such a way that is going to harm our community harm our children harm our classified workers and harm our teachers in in that process yes we need to right siize teachers are ready for it cuz they know classified is not do not you voted the right way the first time I urge the ones that
027did not to hear my voice and my plea thank [Applause] you hello board Dr contas trustees I just came tonight to give a face to the warehouse driver that's who I am I work in the warehouse I've been here 10 years when I first started this position wasn't filled at that particular time there was a little transition period I walked into the warehouse there was 30 pallets sitting in the warehouse that we had to go through now we just don't drive around or whatever we go through every box check it in receive it put labels on it we send it pack into the sites we have to deliver to the offices here we just don't do what's just in our in our job description you add about seven pages to that I pick up e-w
028I go around deliver all kinds of pallets I moved PMS back to where they were at from Lake View you had two schools together it worked maybe you guys ought to merge some schools together get the staffs together whatever you got to do but the bottom line is when you start cutting jobs other other employees have to pick up the slack when they do then that just increases what they're already trying to do and the more stuff that they have to do the less efficient things get and things just fall apart you got to pick up you know and and and and support your classified employees by God they're the backbone of this outfit and I'll tell you what if you don't support them who's going to run it who's going to keep it going
029you got to you got to support them and just like those t-shirts I delivered you got a dream you got to show up for it well I got a dream and I still want to show up for it and your older employees I wouldn't get rid of them either they got a lot of experience they've been here a long time so I support the classified I want to thank you folks for listening to me tonight but just don't look at a job title and go hey that's just all this person does no we all do all kinds of things and you guys need to be aware of that it's just not a name or a title so anyway thank you for hearing me this evening and I hope that you don't vote for the cuts
030thank [Applause] you tekashi Mizuno nman David patin patinho Brandon Judy stable Evan Jack means Melissa offet Veronica Marx and lii an estais can I start good evening I'm Takashi and in the last board meeting I was sitting in the board meeting for six hours and I did not speak I did not speak my public comment I was listening I was just listening but tonight I'm here to speak my public comment and thank you for the explanation of Miss Joy fing why you call the special board meeting and thank you very much for the new president of teachers union yeah and I just I was very amazed how he handled the situation very respectfully yeah and one thing I have had a very mixed feeling about this special meeting because you called the special meeting and
031only what I am hoping for is just please make sful decisions tonight yeah I was one of the people who supported you to be appointed to this seed and I really hope you can make sort of decision also miss Carol you know how hard we worked for you to be to sit there last year so please consider your sful decision tonight you can change your Bo thank you very much [Applause] hello uh dear Board of Trustees pbsd leaders teachers parents students and community members my name is mck man I a fully credential CD teacher at Bahar ravali high school at teach graphic design video production and web programming I'm standing here in front of our Board of trustee to ask you to come up with a fair and unbiased decision today as if your decision
032will affect your family friends and yourselves as a community member I have learned that every decision is hard whether you are on the yes or no side I'm respectfully request that you answer the how question to every proposed resolution and not just the what and why questions please represent us as you are one of us community members students parents teachers staff members our tax money is hard earned we are here to celebrate public education with you we place my trust our trust in you to make the right decision because we voted for you to represent us let's celebrate the week of public school with great outcomes that benefits every Community member thank you for [Applause] listening hi I'm Judy stabil thank you for having us here um over the last 12 years as a volunteer
033I've worked as um an Arts education Advocate through Arts now paho Valley and through create California I stand here tonight yet again expressing my hopes for Equitable Arts education for all pvusd students and to express my fear that your actions tonight will set us back in time before State mandate mandated art standards all public schools in California provide art supposed to provide Arts education across all disciplines dance music theater and Visual Arts with standards based on the national core art standards how will pvusd be able to provide for sequential learning with the proposed position cuts in item 4.3 the reduction of 3.6 vapa teachers and 4.0 CTE teachers it would severely limit the district's ability to offer Arts education at the secondary level and in addition to that item 4.1 the 12 release positions these
034proposed Cuts would not only harm the vapa and CTE programs but also restrict opportunities for students to engage in valuable career Pathways and creative self-expression these Cuts would undermine the district's efforts to provide high quality education particularly in the Arts and would have a negative impact on student engagement and performance thank you hello members of the board my name is Evan Jac Ms I'm a senior at abas high school and I'm here to talk about the importance of vapa and CTE courses in our education and the burden The Proposal Cuts would impose on students the cuts outlined in section 4.3 would eliminate 7.6 vapa and CTE teachers across all three high schools those 7.6 teachers teach a total of 38 sections that means 38 classrooms full of students would be denied the Arts by your
035voting on this action you also propose consolidating classes but that means maxing out class sizes we as students are acutely aware of how detrimental to our education this would be as overcrowded classes take away from the individual attention students need and overwhelmed teachers I ask you to please consider the Alternatives before making these cuts the Arts are crucial to all students and every school deserves the same opportunities including a seven period schedule for py and Watsonville High there are options and I truly hope I I truly hope that you care enough about what the community here has to say um to look for them thank you for your time good evening I'm Melissa offet I'm a visual arts teacher at apas high school and the department chair for vapa and CTE so I'm going to
036Echo a lot of what um Evan just said I urge you to continue searching for alternatives to the cuts proposed at tonight's meeting I'm unclear how enough work could have been done in such a short time to justify proposing them again without Alternatives being presented at the high school level 3.6 vappa and 4.0 CTE teachers means 38 elective sections will be cut that makes up onethird of all proposed cuts at the secondary level at the high school level while some have suggested no cuts are being made this is simply not true if teachers are eliminated so are the courses they teach we specialize in our fields and our expertise is essential to these programs consolidating classes is more con more complex than it seems to offer meaningful Pathways and advanced Arts courses not every class
037can be filled to the 35 student cap Arts education is Hands-On and students need individualized attention and space to fully engage in the work unlike traditional lecture-based courses the Arts require room for creativity skill development and focused guidance consolidating to excuse me too aggressively will only sacrifice the quality and opportunities these programs provide please let's not lose sight of what makes these classes so valuable it's not just about filling seats it's about fostering creativity and critical thinking in a space where students can truly grow I urge you to con reconsider and find a solution that respects both our students needs and the Integrity of these vital programs thank you good evening board members and thank you for your time my name is barque marks I'm a parent of a 10th grader at TOS high school
038and in my 27th year at pvusd I teach CTE photography art2 AP drawing and AP Art and Design at upas high school all of which are in lower enrollment the proposed Cuts would eliminate again 3.6 vaa and 4.0 CTE teachers which means again 38 sections and despite reassurances that electives are not being cut but Consolidated again that's onethird of our programs being cut and atop TOS high that would equate to nine teachers as mentioned previously at the other meetings and those nine teachers equate to 45 sections which would ultimately mean there is no possibility of a seven period day I'm here to emphasize the vital role of Arts in high school and the challenge of unrealistic expectations that art classes can be filled at a 35 to1 ratio the Arts are not just extracurricular they
039are an Essen they are essential to Student Success they Foster creativity critical thinking problem solving and collaboration all of which are skills students need for College and Career Readiness however treating arts classes like core academic courses when it comes to enrollment numbers is neither Equitable nor realistic unlike a lecture-based class Arts courses require Hands-On instruction individualized feedback and specialized materials you certainly wouldn't put 35 painters in a classroom with limited supplies in space and you shouldn't put 35 students in a culinary arts class or a construction tech class Beyond Logistics enrollment caps disproportionately impact our elective programs many students want to take these classes but can't due to scheduling conflicts not a lack of interest when electives get cut or pushed into larger class sizes we limit opportunities for students who thrive in Creative environments
040the very students who are often stay in school because of these programs if we truly value Equity we must recognize that a one siiz fits-all approach does not work for electives please prioritize realistic class sizes and preserve these essential programs our students deserve best and lastly I just want to throw out that there's a lot of misinformation about vapa and prop 28 and I urge you to reach out and ask questions and also Joy your email was only set up this afternoon so we have been not able to uh to to connect with you and you're our representative thank you good evening my name is ly I'm a sophomore adapto High I'm here again because these proposed budget cuts are not just numbers on a spreadsheet they directly they directly impact students like me maxing
041class sizes to a minimum of 35 students means less one-onone support overcrowded classrooms and fewer opportunities to learn effectively how can we expect be expected to succeed when our education is being Stripped Away but for me the biggest issue is cutting electives my choir and drama classes are the reason I come to school every day without them I wouldn't be here today these classes give me a place to express myself build confidence and connect with others they're not just fun they shape who I am and who I want to become without them I wouldn't be the student standing right in front of you consolidating electives especially APPA classes takes away more than just courses it takes away creativity self-expression and career preparation those classes that keep those are the classes that keep students engaged and
042motivated cutting them will push more students to disengage and ultimately drop out when you cut electives you aren't just removing classes you're taking away the students motivation their passion and for some their reason to show up at all I ask you to stand with students stand with teachers stand for the future of Education a district that values its students does not make success harder to achieve do the right thing reject these Cuts thank you Brandon Denise negotiations chair for the pvft I want to say that everything about this meeting is wrong we could have done this on March the 5th and joy I appreciate that you wanted to have an open dialogue but what I think should happen but I don't think you guys can even make the motion because we're figuring out Robert's Rules
043as we go is I think that this board should have a resolution that you all write up right now that compels this District to meet with their labor partners and discuss this process so that March 5th we can bring something to you that was actually collaborative because we have a superintendent who is lying who has repeated lie after lie at this at these board meetings and in the media I'll give you one example just over this weekend there was an article posted in Santa Cruz local where Dr contras says that 3% mandated Reserve is really only the floor well we have a 3% on top of that so have a 6% and what she said was what is really recommended is 15% really by who cuz that's not coming from the state that's not coming
044from the community it's coming from your consultants and you're making things up as you go along just like President aosta here I mean Flores I can't tell the difference these days so I would seriously ask the board to compel the district to meet with their labor partners because we have submitted official request for information which is our right under the E and I have been told multiple times you'll get that information by the end of the day I don't get the information I've been strung along as we request information Dr contras is steadfast in her commitment to collaboration and yet information has been withheld from us and we have not been at the table with the district since one week before the 12th so 25 was the last time we were at the table everything
045about this is wrong we actually need to collaborate and I would encourage you all to compel the district to do so the the whole public comment stuff I'm trying to meet you halfway like we caucused as a community we came up with a list as a community and that was rejected so that you can have the first 15 people who signed up to come just Brown noosed like that is wrong the community is watching you the media is watching you stand up for our students stand up for our staff [Applause] hello my name is David patinho teacher at Watsonville high school I'm yielding my time to these students here hi board my name is Natalia and I'm the junior class president at appas high I understand that budget cuts need to be made but cutting
046over 133% of our teachers at apas high or teachers anywhere for that matter does not in any way benefit the students cutting down our staff to to this extent makes it impossible for us to sta a 7th period day high school is an opportunity to figure out what you want to do for the rest of your life and forcing our day down to six periods limits the opportunities that are available to students to complete their education while pursuing their passions this reduction to six periods also threatens our site losing health and human and it collapsing into PE which is completely unacceptable real sex EDS saves lives and keeps students safe and informed our vapa and CTE department is also threatened and V CTE classes have proven to increase student attendance and involvement in their educations
047it gives them a creative Outlet as well as an access to future career Pathways electives also include core classes that are not grad requirements like calc BC so I urge all of you to vote no on any action that could threaten APS High School 7 period day and overall the extreme staff budget cuts throughout the district good evening each day my little brother comes home and is slowly able to communicate with us what he did as a child living with autism it is essential that he and many others on the Spectrum receive release education in elementary schools before my brother 7 years old began music class at real delmare elementary school he was essentially non-verbal and had a very hard time communicating his wants and needs each day he comes home from music or PE
048and is a step closer to being able to communicate the way you and I do today by cutting 12 full-time Elementary release positions you cutting off the lifeline to students with special needs PB USD is supposed to educate students so why are you going to refuse education to your most highrisk category education is not just reading and writing it is also regulating emotions and learning basic life skills do not set these children up for failure I urge you to support special education students on their paths in life without release my brother and many others will never be able to progress or communicate the way you and I do today this choice is on your shoulders so make the right choice because someday you're going to have to live with the regret of what you're doing
049to this to these students and this District say no to Cuts thank you good evening my name is Avery Shu I'm a fresh at apos high I am here today because I believe it is unjust to be cutting funds and teachers of Visual and Performing Arts and CTE classes these classes are not only enjoyable but they provide students balance in their school day from stressful academics and allow students to express their creativity on top of this vapa and CTE classes are high school graduation requirements and therefore every student needs to take these classes within their high school years we should be able to have many choices when selected these courses so we have the freedom to select classes that we are truly interested in CTE and vaa classes also prepare students for life after school
050if we all were taught if all we are taught are academics how would we be able to explore our interests and passions and what we wish to do with our lives without the balance that these classes create there will be a major decline in overall students wellbeing and mental health because um and mental health should be a priority for every school district which includes all of you thank you thank you and that is we went a little over the 30 which is fine um but we are going to now move on to our action items okay so I will now move us on to item 4.1 resolution 24 4-25-19 reduction of particular kinds of certificated employees services for the 2025 2026 school year as recommended by the sustainable budget team and approved by the board
051of education on January 15 2025 this report will be presented by anelia our interim assistant superintendent of Human Resources good evening president Flores Board of Trustees can you hear me you can't hello is this better okay good evening president Flores Board of Trustees superintendent Dr contas my name is Angelica Ria interim assistant superintendent of HR I'm presenting resolution 24219 for your consideration as Dr contas um had explained before this resolution is based on the recommendations from the sustainable budget team on certificated positions and was approved by the board January 15 2025 25 Education Code section 44955 authorizes the district to eliminate and or reduce particular kinds of certificated Services certain services are now being provided by certificated positions must be reduced for the 25 26 school year and this action is to address the district
052staffy needs the elimination of certain funds and the district's fiscal Health the affected positions are attached as exhibit a the district recommends your approval of this resolution to support the district's fiscal health for the upcoming years sylvestri if you can scroll down a little bit we'll look at the position positions and what I'd like to explain is this resolution was asked to be brought forward so that it was separated out to reflect the um approval of the board at the January 15th board meeting uh where the board approved the recommendations with some modifications by the board of the sustainable budget team so these were positions that had been added with onetime Esser dollars and so these are the certificated positions that were added at that time with onetime funded Esser dollars and this was all
053approved on the January 15th board meeting certificated positions only brought forward separated out so that they were not combined into the whole one resolution as was in the February 12th board meeting okay so now I will move us to discussion from the board did you want to ask sure trusty plan so when we met um a few weeks ago it was my understanding that the board had already um made a decision on this based on the recommendations of the sustainable budget team um I got some feedback um around the from both sides and I wanted to get some clarity from the board who was already here before I got here around I I watched a lot of tell me your age without telling me your age videotape um of the sustainable budget team meetings and
054so I went into that that last meeting understanding that this had already been approved by the board um so I felt like it was important that it be taken out and that Community Voice who spent all their time um working on this be um acknowledged and some of the feedback that I got was that that they weren't because um it was not it was not considered and as somebody who gives Community voice and feedback and has given Free Labor because that's what that was was Free Labor um it's important that those recommendations um not just be considered but be valued um and and taken um and the feedback that I got was that that isn't what happened conversely I also heard that the the options that were given were limited and um there was some
055other positions that would have they would have liked to see on there um I understand that this is a three-year process um and so I wanted to kind of open that up for discussion from um my trustees just to um you know as I mentioned um this is this is an attempt I've heard a couple times already um it be said that we understand Cuts need to be made but don't make them so it it's it's double-sided and and I have a a responsibility I felt like it would be irresponsible of me to not have these conversations with you and allow Community to to speak some more it was hard to make decisions really late at night and it was hard to make decisions when everything was like thrown together um so I wanted to
056listen to what take into consideration what my fellow trustees had said at that meeting about having these things separated so that was an attempt for me and I I really want to hear kind of from from you um because these recommendations were something that you already agreed to um so yeah okay trusty Naro so Joy part of what happened was the sustainable budget committee um came to the determination that we should cut $1.5 million from our mental health clinicians and we had an outpouring of support to not eliminate that because we have a high need for our students who are still suffering from post-pandemic effects um in addition to anxiety depression what's going on with our federal government you know fears for safety and so I we listened to those voices and we decided that
057in order to preserve those mental health positions that we would cut a little bit from a few different areas and that's how we came up with that so the initial um recommendation to the from the sustainable budget committee was to do $1.5 million from the mental health clinicians and we voted the majority to cut $500,000 instead of $1.5 million and then to cut 500,000 from early release and intervention and $750,000 from the district office intervention teachers SE I'm sorry intervention teachers um and then what happened was they had to go back to the budget Jenny and kind of put together kind of quickly like to incorporate our recommendations which is why that's how the delivery driver the payroll Tech the site technicians they were trying and some of the director positions at the um district
058office that's how those ended up there because the budget office and uh Dr contas and her cabinet were trying to figure out ways to abide by what we were trying to do so that's how that came about trusty Medina yeah um I know for me I was a no vote on that um and the reason why that is is is I had to look at it through what I typically do and when I'm creating a film budget I would not form a committee of people who are not informed of how that budget particularly Works what departments need to be funded where that money needs to go because if I were to have a committee for a film budget with people not being quite informed of how that goes that means they're going to come back
059to me and say you need to cut your lead actor cuz they're making too much money well that's a film budget for you right there are things that you need to pay attention to and there are people with expertise for example the people that are on the ground are expertise in this they know exactly what's need in our classrooms and what our students need so um I know I get a lot of flack over here for representing my constituency because they voted me in um and um how many of you are from poo that are here today let's go thank you for representing I love yall um and I love your messages um but you know that was the reason why I voted no because I felt that the sustainable budget team although their intention
060was great they did just did not have that fiscal knowledge that was needed and seeing that two admin were positioned there it felt like the conversation would get steered One Direction when they were requesting other information so I felt that I couldn't in good faith approve that knowing that some of the sustainable budget team also felt like they didn't have all the information they needed to make that decision so weren't they you had mentioned um you know people on the ground W weren't that isn't that who it was made up of from my understanding um and um is Nelly here you could come up to the podium since I have a question can you do that yep I can it's my time unless you want to vote against that inviting me is that fine okay
061uh so um Miss vaka I understand that you were on the sustainable budget team right and can you tell me if the information that were proposed to you was in fact you know collaborative or did you feel that things were missing in that session the items proposed or presented and proposed to the team were items that were generated through the administration as a matter of fact our counselors and mental health clinicians showed up to a meeting and they were denied access to the room that we were meeting in thereby denied access to speak and give us input on the scope of their work and was CCA um present at that meeting as well yeah um we had actually quite a few CA there were only two certificated teachers on the um Committee of all the
062people it was myself and one other classroom teacher um and then CCA had Ashley and the reason we have um we had more CCA people that ended up being on that committee is because CCA are also commun community members um so they were we had Parents um who some happen to be CCA members uh and we had um you know CCA staff uh that were also um invited so that's that's sort of where that that skewed if you were to look at well what are the unions that were there there was a representative um from CWA CWA is the um Union that represents uh the substitutes uh and then it was um parents uh and and so that was the the group and so yeah there are when we're talking about a community especially when
063we're talking about school budgets and how layered and you know complex they are and the unrestricted and restricted and the you know all the stuff it can get confusing and you just sort of space out um but the presentations provided were all items in information generated by the district the committee did ask questions but um again because it's a it was a district Le committee it was only the information that was going to be shared by the district got it thank you so much for clarifying that actually Nelly I had one more question I have a question when I first when it first started I saw that there were quite a few of the parents were also teachers are you but you're saying there was only two there was just the only two were myself
064and Emily hellig out of the 24 mhm okay yep yeah and you had um one two three I saw three administrators um that were School site administrators um and when you had Jenny and Dr contas leading the the committee um and the conversations um so yeah it was predominantly administrative and and then we had like some some wonderful um parents there that so I'll speak to the formation of the committee so it was comprised of 24 uh people and I've spoken about this before at previous meetings 24 people were on the committee 12 were community members representing each grade Span in our district so elementary junior high and High School uh they were all they all had to apply it was not a a challenging application process it was just fill out a Google form
065select your interest uh State what grade span you're representing and then we did a live streamed random drawing of the people who had applied and we did it by grad span like here's how many and we read their names uh you can find it it's still posted we read their names we watched we let everyone read the names go into a little tumbler and then for each U grade span we pulled out the name and said this is the person who was drawn so that it was very transparent and not pre selected who is being um selected onto there uh we then had administrators apply uh one from each grade span we had an Community Partners and again it was just whoever wanted to apply and we had two slots available for that and we
066did a random drawing on the Community Partners so it was just all random we invited our labor Partners to be a part of that um and then Jenny and I led those meetings we presented any and all information um that we thought would be needed in trying to educate the team around school finance and District budgets and then any information that was requested of us uh we brought back for for them to review at one point even Ashley yoro asked to see our PG and eill and so we brought that inform information forward um that is all live it was live streamed so that anyone could watch in in the moment they're recorded and posted on our website and all documentation all the Powerpoints we use any requested information uh is also uploaded and throughout
067every single meeting anytime someone wanted any more information and asked for it we always had what we call parking lot so there was a big post it and if someone requested anything they just had to put it on a sticky note that they wanted to see that information and there was at no point any information that was asked of us did we ever say no you can't have that information um so we did our best to make sure it was a balanced team and when we had the team um have their first meeting we made it really clear that the end goal of that team would be to make a recommendation to the board around what positions for the onetime dollars would be recommended for reduction because we just cannot afford to keep positions on
068with that with money we no longer have and was Stephanie Monroe at that meeting yes Stephanie Monroe was one of the district management positions who was um on that on that team um one thing I failed to oh sorry go ahead sorry I think Carol wanted to respond to you as well so I watched close enough I watched the um videos I didn't watch live stream but I watched them later before we came in to vote um and at uh meeting 7 there was a unanimous agreement of the 24 people of an option in meeting 8 which was the final one where they were putting together the presentation to come to the board um I wouldn't say everybody in the room but I felt like many of the people in the group had rethought the
069um mental health clinicians um and I I felt like I wasn't doing a disservice to the 24 people who had worked for free um on that committee that that they also felt like the mental mental health clinicians were important so that's where I came from okay so one of the things that um has been heavy on my mind and this is really just coming from me that I'd like to share with my trustees is um something that I've not heard anybody talking about and that is what's happening at the federal level um and what is Downstream and I have this vision of us a school bus on stuck on the train tracks and we know when the train is coming and we have to try to get people off of the tracks um I personally
070don't feel like the federal Administration cares about me people who look like me and people who look like many people in this room um and they're literally willing to allow us to starve by cutting these Federal fundings that fund our healthy healthy meals literally taking food away from our kids nobody is talking about this that's another reason why I called this meeting because we need to talk about that okay I I I missed that it was very overwhelming time um and I in in we still are in black history month so I can't let it go by uh identifying that that program was inspired by the Black Panthers in 1969 and made national in 1975 um and I know we have a representative of the new chapter of the Brown Beret who work very closely
071with black panthers so thank you for being here um so starve both of food and starve of knowledge because we could potentially be having to cut our um programming for Head Start it makes me nervous I don't like like to operate in fear I like to operate in caution and this is something that I think we all can really get behind and understand and I don't know what to do with it so I had to bring it before you um that's why this conversation is really really important I know that the reserves are something that keep being talked about um I'm just trying to figure out where where we go for funding when uh the other thing that I didn't mention is the state funding and um how much we rely on that um a
072third of the state funding comes from the federal government and then we trickle down half of our County funding comes from the federal government 25 million approximately of um pvsd funds well 12 to 14 million for food and nutrition and about 12 to 14 million for early childhood development and what if that gets cut then what so I'm not um a proponent of really cutting however this is the reality that we're in with our current Administration who does not care about the kids who we serve so thank you everybody for coming here um I did not call this meeting lightly I need you to understand that I know a lot of people are angry for even having it but again this is something that nobody's talking about and the recommendations that were given by the
073sustainable um budget team I don't know that they even had these in mind um but onetime funding is onetime funding and I I I want to better understand what maybe the long-term cost is when we take these away if we don't have the funding to support them in the first place yes oh sorry you have to say yes trusty Medina um I agree and the reason why this really hurts me is because this really hurts my area those three those three schools that are out there and I'm going to say it again they're neglected nobody goes out there nobody pays attention to them nobody these programs and then to hear that they want to cut our only English um language um counselor who's bringing in new students talking to them as they're trying to assimilate
074into the United States that is horrible and I know you like rolling your eyes Dr Navaro when I talk about my district but if you were to live there you would probably understand so I just wanted to call you out on that since you like doing that quite often and you know just thank you and what does it say about our priorities when we hold special meetings to revisit budget cuts but not discuss the real crisis affecting our district if the priori is tackling low attendance and let's schedule a special meeting on lowering the voting age to 16 so students have a stake in their education if the goal is attracting new teachers let's have a special meeting on transitioning to a 4-day school week to improve work life balance and make our district more
075appealing time and time again those of us who understand the culture who grew up in this area and who know what our constituents want are being dismissed just going to say that we need a plan shaped by our community our stakeholders not one imposed without meaningful input because that's exactly what it feels like so I hope that those that voted for this really reconsider especially those that were not running a campaign and got to meet these amazing constituents that show up here every day because that's why I'm in this seat because of all of you and when other people hit me up that are not from my district I tell them openly this is what my constituents want this is what they need and they are tired of being left out in the dark and
076not giving an opportunity to hold people accountable we have maintenance and operations they the district sent out a letter telling my area that they need to close the windows guess what par Middle School doesn't have any damn windows some are missing so how is it that we're allowing that to happen and who Dr please answer this who is in charge of Maintenance and operations hero Fernandez yeah who supervises hero Jenny J Medina I supervis maintenance and operations and facilities and we had emailed about the situation at parro middle school so what happened um with the windows is the original design of the school um had design with what are called Louver so they're essentially metal blinds um over the many years there were um some classrooms that had plexiglass installed but that was not part
077of the original design so what we had spoken about was um this was a concern that had been brought up so we are in the process of going through an architect to look at what that would look like to get those installed but that was part of the original plan thank you for that but what I don't understand is between the first fire warning that came out sorry and the second one that came out why was there no Pepi glass put in into those windows so it it's a complex situation so one thing that we are working principal marshan is the fact that when you put the plexiglass on um it does impact the air flow um into the classrooms because the plexiglass um you're not able to lower and open those easily we're going
078into the warmer months so I know um our M team has been working with uh the principal to see if we can get actually a survey going with the teachers to see what that would look like um in talks with our Architects um because there right now is a delay in the manufacturer of Windows and glass we're actually seeing that with one of our projects um they gave us an estimate of actually two years out to get all of the windows that we need for this one project so we installed the Plexi class um it would not not be as temporary as we initially assumed it would actually be probably for over a year so we did not want to go ahead and install those without really having an understanding of how this would impact
079um the classroom learning environment and so had I not brought that to your attention you would have allowed that window to be open and remain open during that time I'm going to interject right here for really quick um we're going I'm going to bring it back to this item I thank you Jenny for that um information and I do see where where we can't just go in and alter designs without you know really thorough thought yeah but poisoning students is not okay either and I think that's something that needs to be considered this 4.1 um I'm going to give you a little more information also from my point of view because you had asked you know for from us um I really felt like that sustainable budget team did an amazing job it was a
080very difficult job that um I thank them for giving up their time with their family to do that I came into two I watched some of them three times most of them two the first ones just just the once um but I came into that meeting prepared to you know honor what they had um provided us now when as that meeting was going along you know we could see that I didn't I didn't believe we were going to be able to come to a an agreement on what was being presented so we you know had dialogue and came to a compromise um and I felt it was it was a fair compromise taking a little bit you know from here here and here so that it's not all on one um one on just all
081mental health clinicians or on social emotional counselors or you know and and originally the the motion was going to be 1.2 from Intervention teachers I think losing almost all of our intervention teachers and I did not want to allow that to happen um so yeah I think what we came up with and what we voted um January 15th was Affair you know um outcome considering you know the time that they put in to then present it to us but you know ultimately that the decision does come down to to us so thank you for that um so I would be remiss if I did not bring up something that's come up from many people that have um connected with me and I apologize please thank you for your patience around my um my email I
082could not find my social security card I found it and I gave it to them and um then there was an issue with my name because my legal last name is wall um but I did not drop it for personal reasons um and my middle name is Flynn so I often go by Flynn wall um but yeah so I wanted to make that clear um so you can call me trusty Flynn and my email is Joy Flynn at pvusd.net it is up and running um but some onetime Esser fund administrative positions that um have come into question and um this may come up in one of the next um resolutions but um I I feel like that needs to be talked about because of um the people that I represent are asking me about it
083um so some of the feedback that I've gotten is that this is a three-year process and that is coming but um I wanted to give I wanted to hear from my trustees around um around that if if if we could and and if there's any sort of addition to the resolution or um modifications to the resolution or if it stands or you know if we make a motion to move forward or you know because we have that opportunity to do that now that it's its own thing so and this act process actually started under um interim superintendent Mur Shan's watch when he first came on he was the first one to really you know bring it to our board's attention with with Jenny M it really I think I believe it was Jenny who really
084started to show us where we were headed and um they attacked that first year with just hitting attrition really hard um and we saw that you know as a board um it was in close session though and so it wasn't really seen to for the public but and then we knew that we were going to uh look at Esser funds Co dollars for the second year and we still have two more years and I'm telling you each year it's just going to get harder so the fact that we're struggling so much with this one is really scary but it's there there's so much more that's going to happen in this next phase and I'm going to request actually that we start a lot sooner like I'm saying thinking the second graduations are done we hit
085it you know with looking at what's this next phase going to look like and it it is going to actually be everything will be looked at now this isn't just onetime funds this is everything and we are going to and I'm going to ask that we do a better job for our um unions and our you know everyone that we can bring them in more I thought the suable budget team was amazing but we could do better I mean we could always try to do better so that's you know what we have to look forward to after this and so um I I know we've been on this item for a half an hour now is anyone ready to make a motion oh go sorry yes I think for me um I understand that we
086have to have Cuts I get that what I wanted to see out of the list and this isn't like disrespect to anybody but I used to be a teacher and we also we always saw cuts at the bottom so for me what I wanted to see is if we're in this together and we need to do this together I understand that this is the list that was put for the onetime funds but I would have appreciated if they we would have included people at the top as well and the reason is for me is that I have seen a lot of mistrust between the teachers and the staff and the district we've always felt and I say we even though I'm not there anymore right but I still feel like I'm there that a lot
087of it gets cut from the bottom so the very little that we have right even though it's onetime funding I understand that part like I see release teachers and I think of like I've worked with elementary kids Kinder first grade right that is so important had I seen them also put and this isn't attacking them right but this is a collaborative thing that I wanted to see and in order to gain mind trust right I would have been like okay we're all doing our part but what I'm seeing with this list is is all at the bottom and that's why I felt uncomfortable and I understand that we have to cut but I want it to be what is the word that I'm dispersed a little bit different I hear that and I think that's
088the that's the piece that I was just speaking to and go sorry no go finish and then I after when you're done um I guess because there is an immediacy to this is this something that like what uh president Flor was Flores was talking about is beginning right after graduation and and talking about where that could come from and be um for a lack of better terms more topheavy um because I I want you to feel I hear what you're saying and that's what I was trying to speak to and that's the feedback that I wanted and I felt like it was important that I speak to that and bring it up because it was coming from so many you're cuz I'm hearing what you're saying from the community um and this is not to
089attack administrators or you know I I'm seeing now in this position everybody's work so this is not saying that were more important than them what I'm saying is I would have loved to see a list that included everybody so moving forward sorry into the the next iterum I feel like maybe we have Converse like this is feeling heavy at the bottom for you or heavy on the boots on the ground and it has to be better dispersed is what I'm hearing okay I was speaking to somebody at Cabrio and they were telling me how they got rid of a dean and all the other Deans took over some of those positions as teachers that's what we've done for years and years so I would like to see it at the top as well um trusty
090crosco I would like to point out that on the line the very first line with the four and a half FTE that is all Administration not and then um in in the there will be other resolutions that have certificated staff that are also administrative positions and um last year in the first year of um the sustainable cuts that that President forest was talking about I believe Jenny can share the number um of can you share the number of dollars in reduction that was in management positions at the district office level yes so we absolutely share that Viewpoint that we had to start looking at the district office first so before we um started the sustainable budget team process um we started reducing at the district office so all of 2024 um we reduced um approximately
091$1 million in positions before we're even seeing the $750,000 in District office reductions as part of these resolutions as part of that million dollars that we reduced um I believe three were management positions and since then there's actually been one more management position um so we first started at the district office um looking at management before we even started the sustainable budget team so it's a million dollar plus the 750 in additional district office reductions as part of these resolutions okay trusty Navar would like to add um also uh I know that I've been in discussions with Dr Keras and I believe Carol has to um in this next uh iteration going forward is to look at the district office and figure out exactly what what everyone does like what is their role is there
092any redundancy um is there any ways that we can make Cuts without affecting the functioning of the district so that's that's that I know I've requested and I think Carol has two going forward wait so those discussions weren't had before this so so trusty so trusty Medina my understanding and please Jenny and Dr conteras correct me if I'm wrong but this specific sustainable budget committee was looking at one-time funding and those district office positions are not onetime funding am I wrong okay I can name three D that we could cut right now so if that's what needs to happen let's do it so yeah so that is correct we this we've been trying to take a measured approach the measured approach began last year this year was another look and we started with the one-time
093funding and then also um the beginning of aligning our enrollment to the number of teachers and staff uh the district office positions that were closed uh this year uh were one time were some some were positions added with onetime funding but we also closed other positions that have been requested to be closed so as they were vacated we closed them um this just two weeks ago I met with school Services uh me and Andrea Willie who is someone who supports in uh my office uh to begin a study that will deeply analyze all of the Departments that are housed within the district office to look at what what would be the recommended configuration for a district of our size how would it be organized how does it compare to other districts um and and where
094might we uh cut if we need to um and that will be the those recommendations we expect to probably be complete by June or July and then those will be the next wave because this will be a process that we'll need to engage in for next year as well and just like Olivia suggested is start in May and how many consultants have you hired because your uh cabinet doesn't know quite what needs to happen well we did engage in a self-study through the sustainable budget team and those documents are there and we compared ourselves and our configurations to many different school districts you can go on to those documents and see them however several trustees did request for us to have outside experts for particularly the district office because the statement was made that our
095self-study was not thorough enough and how much has that accumulated total uh we haven't contracted out yet because I was going to get board approval for that okay so the training that we did with those two women who are doing like tarot cards what what was that about like the numbers and stuff how much did that cost I'll get that direct information you can't give me the number right now no I cannot I want to be accurate in that Jenny do you have the number on how much that consultant cost no we have thousands of uh contracts and POS that come through I do not know that off the top of my head but can get that information for i' like to bring it back just one second I would like to just request that
096we get a sheet of how many consultants have been utilized since uh contus has come in because if we're relying more on Consultants than the cabinets why do we have a cabinet so that's my logic so um I would like that requested um going back to what you were talking about um truste carasco is that what I'm hearing is that as we are doing this you'd like to see the same thing happen a as we go into the next year so not seeing um these types of um positions on um up for resolution um is that is that the case I I would I would agree with you um I I understand that in this phase we're focusing on the onetime budgeting but I also want to point out that we're working on trust with
097the community M so as we move forward and I think I said this I probably didn't say it how I wanted to say it because it was a lot right but I wanted to take some of this and be able to work with other budget not just the onetime budget um in order to create the trust with our staff and our teachers to say look we're all in this together you guys need to cut and we're cutting here here's the list right and with this list again it feels like another stab at our wound right that we're trying to mend by just seeing people at the bottom so that's what I'm trying to say that yes I understand that it's onetime funding but in the process I personally feel if we want to build trust
098with our community we need to show them that we're doing it on our end as well and that's not to put anybody down in their position because if we are power Val unified then we need to feel all these Cuts unified that's how I see it thank you okay so I'm going to um close discussion now and ask do we have a motion trusty Medina I would like to make a motion to table resolution 24251 19 and do I have a second okay we have a first and a second and I would like a roll call on the vote Eva can we have a roll call trusty Flynn your vote Yes trusty Turley your vote no trusty carasco your vote Yes trusty do Jor is not here trusty Medina your vote Yes vice president nav
099your vote since this is a decision that we've already made at the January meeting no and president Flores your vote no that motion fails we can um see if there's any other motions recognizing me trusty Medina great then I would like to amend resolution 24219 and I would like to move 4.5 for coordinator site academics accountability instruction to zero I would like to move counselors to zero I would like to move Elementary release teachers to zero and I would like to put Elementary intervention teachers at zero that is my Amendment for the teach okay do we have a second one Carol he's pretty much putting it all to zero I'm I'm asking to zero all these out do we have a second second we have a second can I have a roll call I'm sorry
100guys you can't we need it quiet I'm sorry we have a really heavy decision to make right now I can't have that I'm sorry roll call stop the out Omar or I'm going to have to ask you to leave please missa it might be nice with the people behind you if you have a seat too or unless there's no one behind you okay trusty carasco your vote what is the question I'm sorry yes trusty do um trusty Flynn your vote I can't agree to zero I I can't agree to zero right now no Christy Medina your vote Yes trusty Turley your vote no vice president Novado your vote no president Flores your vote no oh okay so trusty Flynn is there a motion that you would consider making the thing that is hard for me
101is that this decision was already made before I came yeah so I mean I would be I I don't mind making the first motion if you are uncomfortable with that I don't mind making a motion I don't feel comfortable making a motion okay I'll make a motion to uh to approve this I have a motion to approve I have a motion to approve resolution 24- 25-19 do I have a second second okay I will ask for a roll call I have a first and a second I'll ask for a roll call trusty carasco your vote no trusty Flynn your vote I have to I have to go with what I had said before and um my understanding is that this is onetime Esser funding we have a lot of others to go through um not
102I I have I have had I have had conversations with constituency about this particular I have I've lived here for 45 years I know a lot of people and people have contacted me through my personal email Eva has forwarded me emails um what about people that's not emails that we received we had people saying can you please forward this to trusty Flynn because we don't have her email so that was done that was not ad on the it said there was no email um you'll understand quiet please quiet please you've had your time we have to have more discussion now thank you can I ask another question yes where what what is the effect on the students um the and these these pleas come to District go to go to we've been under staff for
103four years you will see it you will see I and okay I'm sorry I can't we cannot have everyone chiming in I will'll have to clear the room and I really don't want to do that so please don't make me do that clear the room we can't vote we can actually okay yes Robert come ucation sit down with the teachers and talk more trusty Flynn I can tell you no okay I know U trusty Medina no and remember y'all have recall power throwing that out there trusty Charlie no I think this is really financially irresponsible and this is actually a decision that we already have made and my vote is yes just president Flores I vote Yes and I apologize for to our entire District who's going to struggle if we do not make the
104decisions that we need to make so that motion fails I'm trying to get 2 4 1 okay so I'm okay I'm just gonna move us on quickly through these then because um I'm gonna move on to item 4.2 resolution 24- 25-20 reduction of particular kinds of classified employee services for the 2025 2026 school year as recommended by the superintendent by Sorry by the sustainable budget team and approved by the board of education on 11525 report will be presented by anelia int assistant superintendent of Human Resources good evening again Angelia this next next resolution is resolution 2520 and it also represents the recommendations from the sustainable budget team on classified positions which was approved by the board on January 15 2025 please note that these cards are in addition to the 1 million previously R reduced
105in district office positions education codes 45101 45114 45298 and 45308 authorize the district to lay off or reduce classified employees for lack of work or lack of funds the recommended action again is in order to maintain a healthy budget for the district we recommend your approval on this resolution thank you and now I'll bring it back for um discussion from the board anyone have any questions uh Dr Navaro actually this is the one resolution that I didn't support because um of the site technology and the uh communication technicians for the reasons that we discussed the last meeting um but in regards to the last one like those were those were decisions that were made already and I'm I'm just upset that I was hoping that by separating them out that we could at least get
106those passed I was um hoping the same thing and um yeah I I don't have a a lot of questions about this I'll take a motion then oh trusty Medina I would like to make a motion to reject resolution 24252 I'll second okay do you need a roll call or can I just do I would love a roll call so people are on record thank you can we have a roll call vote Eva trusty Charley your vote no trusty Flynn your vote no trusty carasco your vote motion to so you have to yes correct sorry should we start sorry folks yeah the my okay I'll start again okay yes thank you okay trusty Charley your vote no trusty Flynn your vote I vote to reject it yes trusty carasco your vote trusty Medina your vote
107Yes trusta is it possible to amend or no just the vote okay okay no and president Florest your vote no so that motion actually fails uh 331 well I'll try I think I know where it'll go um I make a motion to approve resolution 24252 I second Eva can we have a roll call vote please one trusty Turley your vote Yes trusty Flynn no trusty carasco trusty Medina no trist no yes and president Flores yes and that motion fails 331 okay so I believe we just table this resolution and move on to the next one okay we're moving on to item 4.3 [Applause] resolution 4.3 resolution 24 25-21 reduction of a particular kind of certificated employee services for the 2025 2026 school year based on the need for right sizing due to overstaffing report will
108be presented by anelia inim assistant superintendent of Human Resources good evening again Angelica Ria this next resolution is resolution 242 2521 and is based on the need for right sizing due to overstaffing this resolution is also supported by Education Code 44955 the list of certificated positions that are considered in this resolution are listed as exhibit a once again in order to maintain a healthy budget the district recommend your approval on this item thank you uh Dr Navaro so I just present um sorry I just gathered my thoughts and I just want your patience and please if you can just not scream out from the audience and just hear me out um first of all I want to thank president Flores for giving me the opportunity to give my thoughts regarding the last meeting I hope
109the community realizes how hard that last meeting was for all of us many of us are new to the board and we're trying to get up to speed as quickly as possible trusty Flynn had been on the board for about a week before we were making these really big decisions which and had information rapidly coming out her in addition to a Litany of emails from constituents voicing both for and against trusty Carrasco Medina Charley and I have been in our positions for less than six months and we're doing our best to learn as quickly as possible last night I was up till midnight I worked 10 hours a day at from 6:00 to 4: and then I came here and in the interim I responded to every single email that I received and I have
110responded to every text uh and interaction that I've come up with our two veterans Tres also struggle with these decisions despite their institutional knowledge and it was painful we realize that these decisions affect our neighbors our friends and our community members but this is the job that we signed up to do we signed up to make tough decisions and to make sure that we have a functioning board a functioning school district and align our staffing needs the number of students that we have so we can provide for the students that we do have with the resources they need to be successful Danny I know really struggled with the classified recommendations but I think that that unfortunately was based on recommendations that we did in January so we we kind of caused that problem classified positions
111like the warehouse delivery site text computer support payroll technician and the certified positions vaa coordinator Math and Science directors were an attempt to cut district office positions and follow the guidelines we gave the team we are still learning how these sessions work and unfortunately because of time constraints and brown act rules we didn't get the opportunity to collectively discuss and negotiate on what we could and could not live without furthermore while the district enrollment has decreased significantly Staffing levels have either been maintained or increased inreased in FTE this is not sustainable I reviewed all this information with trusted sources my best friends of 37 years who have worked in the education system for over 20 years as teachers vapa coordinators um in the district office and as as principes when I reviewed this with my
112friends they were shocked that the district had never right siiz based on attendance and stated with declining enrollment and state reimbursement that you have to reduce positions quote that that's a no-brainer furthermore she also stated that we needed to enforce the contract that pvft has with the district we have 15,000 students and 1100 teachers which is one teacher for every 13 students enrollment has declined 20% over the last decade and staffing has not reduced I visited one site and asked for their course offerings and I actually gave truste Flynn that information and even though and even I could see that the classes were under enrolled there was one class same class had 12 students another class same class had 17 students those two classes combined are 29 students which is still under what's contracted I
113could see how even me just taking a quick look at this could see how we can combine classes without causing any loss of opportunities to our students I understand the scheduling is difficult but that's why our counselors are important in helping students get the schedule that they need sometimes things change I'm sorry um you know sometimes things change and the reductions don't come to fruition but every district and I'll pull up Eva if you can pull that up for me um every District goes through this every District across the California is going through this right now in fact many are holding meetings like today and as we speak this is a worst case scenario we're hopeful that teachers are going to opt to retire take the you know the retirement incentive there are people that
114may live leave the district and there's a possibility these positions don't actually get laid off it was shocking to my friends that this District had never actually pink slipped people because every District does this they do not rely on attrition um I asked I asked that you not interrupt please I'm hopeful that once we get our I'm hoping that there isn't as many reductions once we have a better view of the budget but unfortunately because of the March 15th deadline any reductions need to be announced and often because my friends went through this for the first five years they were teachers often a lot of times they get rehired when when the monies are understood I'm hopeful that we get our house in order which it's not and free up some resources to improve our
115schools expand opportunities for students and show we willing and able to be fiscally responsible that we can encourage some of the families that are leaving for private school and leaving our district to actually stay I'd like to build a district that that people Envy thereby in improving our bottom line and providing us with funds to grow and Thrive as a district I want to extend a heartfelt apology to budget Officer Jenny M and Dr contras Jenny we as a board failed you and we failed Dr contras the sustainable budget committee met over several months and came up with recommendations for cuts regarding one-time funding dollars I believe that the sustainable budget committee struggled to come up with those recommendations after a lot of work we as a board were not happy with those decisions as
116we felt eliminating mental health clins and social emotional counselors when kids were still suffering from the effects of covid in addition to depression anxiety violence abuse and Trauma was not in their best interest at the January 15th meeting we decided to spread the pain around so to speak and instead of cutting $1.5 million from mental health we decided as a board to cut 750 from the district office 500 from Intervention and early release I may have gotten that wrong this leads to the proposals involving reductions in early release and intervention teachers and reductions and other classified positions we need to own that decision unfortunately the resolutions were a combination of decisions made in January in addition to rightsizing decisions based on student projected enrollment that combined with the extensive public input led us to make
117no decision at the last meeting which frankly is irresponsible this is what the district has done over the last 5 years with understandable reasoning based on going through a pandemic and its aftermath anyone who does not realize over the next four years that things are going to get worse has their head in the sand we need to be grown-ups and make t tough decisions now otherwise next year we're going to make double cuts and it will hurt even worse Jenny IM has been doing the work of two individuals she had to be begged to take this job her number two position has been open for 10 months with nobody applying this District needs to be fixed if Jenny decides to leave we won't have a budget officer and there's nobody poised to take her role
118and honestly Jenny I know that you have been put through the ringer but I implore you to please try to stick with us so that we could actually try to get a functioning board to make some tough decisions because voting no and abstaining on everything isn't being a grownup cuts to staff cuts to staff and right sizing based on declining enrollment and declining state and federal funds is not unique to pbsd this is happening in multiple districts across the state just this week I received numerous csba news notifications of struggles of other districts San Francisco School District counselors social workers on The Chopping Block they're poised to reduce 800 positions can you go next EV listen we are not special here we we are not special we have to abide by all the rules that
119every other school district abides by every other school district is making deep cuts and the ones that don't make deep cuts are going under call good luck let me be clear there's no decisions here that are going to make us feel good I implore my fellow board members to support these resolutions and Ure the financial solvency of our district I want the community and our teachers know that I don't take these decisions lightly and I realize with every reduced position this is someone's livelihood I want all things for our students and our district but just like when I make my monthly budget and when my mom did when we were growing up you have you can't have all the things you have to make choices I want to make sure that our kids have everything
120that they need but not necessarily and I want to make sure we all have what we need but we're not going to necessarily have everything that we want because the federal government has put us in this situation they're talking about dismantling the Department of Education we are losing Federal funding we're going to lose State funding like these are real things and 56 million dollar may sound like a lot of money but when you look to a three-year projection that's going to be eaten up really quick we need to live with our means and make financially sound decisions so that we can provide our students with the education opportunities and supports they need to be successful in the future lastly I wanted to give a little background and maybe trusty Flores you can speak to this
121as well on why the former board hired Dr contras her District in Modesto had similar demographics and a higher number of ESL students and when folks walked those schools classes were filled students were succeeding and per performing and making significant academic gains she improved attendance brought more money to her district and that is why the board voted her in and unfortunately she's been in put in this position where most of the people that hired her are now gone and I get it we have to learn we have to develop trust with the superintendent and the board so we can have a working relationship going forward she had good relations with her Union partners and while they may have respectfully disagreed they were respectful these are my hopes for our district that we can work collaboratively
122and that we can bring all the parties to the table but that we can be honest about what's going on and honest in our in our agendas once again I'd like to point out there's no plans to reduce the six period appts I keep responding to all of these emails that is something that would involve stakeholder involvement and negotiations with the union and in regards to prop $28 I'm working to educate myself on that but my understanding is that they're allocated on PE per pupil dollar to the site and the sites determine how they spend those dollars I responded to several students and asked them that perhaps they should check in with their principles to ask about how those dollars are being spent on their behalf our schools are falling apart I'm so excited that
123measure M passed and I I want to see your schools fixed and I don't roll my eyes about your school I roll I roll my eyes about you not your school I am my district so you're rolling your eyes at my district thank you Medina you you your behavior on this board is so irresponsible so competitive it's not working it's not working together it's not working in transparency can you uh can you tell her to stick to her point because can try to work together get elected okay anyway I'm almost done oh any I'll call itk you anyhow you can see if you scroll through these what districts who have not made smart decisions are facing and what and what districts who have made these decisions as painful as they are are right sizing and
124trying to make smart decisions for the future thank you Carol did you want a five minute or do you want to no I want to V these out let's keep going but I got something to say I have a lot to say too yep question yes yes trusty Turley you know who the smartest who the smartest person in this room probably is not me I can't even figure out how to turn out the thing but um Jenny m is probably the smartest person in the room and she works hard and she cares so much about this district and I know what we're working on right now is really painful but she deserves respect from all of us because she's trying to act in the best interest of of everybody in this room and especially the
125students who we all support but in my typical fashion I have a long list of questions for Jenny are you ready okay our maximum class size by negotiation with the teachers union is 24 for lower grades and 34 for upper grades four and up is that correct so according to our contract um for TK it's 20 students with um an adult to child ratio of um 1 to 10 um K through third it's 24 fourth it's 32 and then um 5th through 6 34 and then 6 through 12 I'm sorry 7 through 1235 with 50 students and certain types of classes such as physical education band um chorus and and some classes like that okay thank you um how many classes do we have that have less than half of the negotiated number of students
126that should that can be in a class the maximum half of the maximum or less I think actually for this one Michael do you have that data yeah I have some rough numbers on this in K through three there's one classroom that has 12 or fewer um there are six classrooms that have between um 13 and 17 students grades four five and six the six meaning um and elementary schools there are eight classrooms with 17 or fewer um and nine classrooms with 18 to 24 students uh in secondary it's pretty tricky because there's a lot of different course codes um but based on uh enrollment report and eliminating things like PE and ELD sadai and like academic Labs um for classes with 17 or fewer there are 59 class periods and between 18 and 25
127there are 258 class periods and Is it feasible to combine some of those classes and not go over the maximum number based on contract yes thank you um um the question was so the answer to the prior question was yes there are numerous classes that have half or less than the maximum number that we've agreed it's more than what the state says we have to do but less than so so so my follow-up question was Is it feasible to combine classes if we have two classes that have 12 each is it possible to combine those and have 24 students I suppose it gets a little comp complicated because of locations of those classes but it's feasible how many positions on the certified reduction list represent positions no longer needed if classes that are under half
128or otherwise affected because of declining enrollment of our acceptable class size class sizes are combined um I didn't state that super well even though I wrote it in advance but um of this list that we're looking at under this resolution right there um how many of these positions are eliminated because we don't have enough students to be in those classes um actually all of those that are listed there are due to uh student numbers okay thank you and how many people currently teaching in our classrooms are not credentialed um have they been here for more than two years and are some of them are we aware um are on track to obtain their credentials so just to clarify all of our all of our teachers are credentialed some of them have emergency credentials that are
129onee cred credentials from the state but those are considered a full credential by the California teaching commission So currently we have 39 people that are designated by California as underqualified which is the state that the how they measure them and um based on funding and things of that nature um and so so they all hold one-ear credentials either they the acronyms are stip and pip or a waiver um and then can you repeat the other half of your question um do we know if any of the um emergency teachers are in process of obtaining credentials yeah we sent out a survey to them uh a number of them have actually moved into intern so this number 39 is we had more than that to begin with I think we've had about five or six of
130them move into internship and um probably another 10 have informed me that they're looking into or have signed up to to start an intern program okay they don't have an actual intern credential yet okay well that's good news that they're working on that process I feel like that one year is incredibly important before teachers are teaching our our children I know we had some emergency situations where we needed those emergency folks and we're appreciative appreciative of that um and how many teachers have indicated ated that they want they intend to retire at the end of this school year uh as of today we have 26 teachers who've indicated that they're going to retire at the end of the school year yeah I think the union thinks it's a larger number than that but maybe they've
131notified their Union prior to you you're talking about retirees not retirees and resignations your question was retired my my question was retired so we have 26 who are going to retire we did have a few earlier in the year who have already retired and ended their service with us early but we have 26 who are scheduled to retire at the end of the year okay and how many others have indicated that by the end of this school year they're moving on or or doing something different currently we have seven who are indicating that they're going to move on for a variety of reasons and these are K through 12 staff we do have a few uh early childhood education teachers and things that I don't have included in this number cuz they're not on this
132list got it um how many I don't see the bottom of the list but I guess I could look here how many people are on how many positions are on this list I think it's 46.3 so Is it feasible that the combination of retirees people who are moving on for some other reason and teachers who are here with emergency credentials who aren't currently actively trying to get a credential um is it possible that we we end up not really needing to pink slip somebody because there's a sufficient number of people leaving for other reasons or that aren't actively getting a credential um as numbers of spots I'm not saying this very clearly I hope you know where I'm going I do know where you're going I mean yes it is possible are they going to
133exactly line up with this list probably not because we have a wide range of people doing things right some of those 39 are special ed teachers you know we have retirees who are intervention teachers or adapted PE or you know I don't get to select who's going to retire but the um it is possible but you will you will still have spots that are not covered by those particular groups you've mentioned okay I understand that thank you um do you have any data on the success of students in classrooms with credentials credential teacher versus classrooms where there's a teacher who has an emergency credential um we do It's tricky in secondary because students have multiple teachers um so the comparative data that we have as an elementary school um when you pull pull growth data
134on map um from the beginning of the year to the most recent map um assessment there is data that compares underqualified teachers um to tenure teachers and it does indicate that tenure teachers with their experience do move students more than less experienced teachers okay thank you um how many toses do we currently have in the district teacher on special assessment but you're probably so to is a teacher on special assignment so we have 28 of them total we have 11 in the curriculum and instruction we have um seven that are work with our new teacher project so they work with any teacher who needs to have their credential cleared which is a two-year process they also work with all 39 of our emergency permitted people to help them get along with the process and go
135through becoming a teacher because most of them have never gone through any type of teacher program we have two toses that are full-time release for The Union okay yeah but they are listed as a tosa but yes they fund themselves um we have one for special services three for state and federal and four technology toses so it appears that we're not in a position where we need to be hiring new teachers because of that can we eliminate the number of tosas well only so there's seven toses that work specifically with our new teachers so even if you are a we still have probationary one probationary 2 who are you have to get a clear credential in the state of California within 5 years of receiving your preliminary credential so they still have a number of
136them that they're processing and working with it's a like I said it's a two-year process so um we still need in that regards the new teacher project right and and then Claudia can speak to the other side of the house there um so uh trusty Turley that's actually a good question that's one that um in one of the resolutions that's coming forward around the curriculum instruction and professional development department um part of that resolution is to reduce by two toses okay thank you in what ways do other districts train their teachers whether it's new or existing teachers and we're bringing in new um curriculum or coaching or whatnot what are other ways that that's done besides toses so that's actually something that um we looked into especially since we were looking at how we were
137going to restructure the cipd department or division um typically what would tend to happen is um you have the remaining directors or coordinators would be the ones that would develop and lead the professional development with teachers um other models that we've ' seen is doing what's called a trainer of trainer model so um we would have teachers who would be interested in becoming like they've gone through like for example the letters training that's going on right now um if there are teachers that have gone through the the first part of that training and are interested in becoming a trainer in the district they could do that piece and so then you could have uh a trainer at each site ready to work with the students I mean the teachers okay thank you if we make
138no changes and we just continue on the path that we're on right now and we have our existing trajectory of declining enrollment at what point do we get to or below the 3% Reserve that we're required to have so I've been working on the next budget update the second and term budget um which we will be bringing forward in March so what we are seeing is actually a worsening condition than at first interim which we saw in December so here are some factors to consider the first is our attendance rate has decreased since the P1 attendance data um that we collect through December so what's been happening in the community due to um few around immigration um we are seeing lower attendance so the impact right now if this continues through the P2 period which
139is through April is about right now we're seeing about a $2 million reduction in each oute so that's not just one time that's 2 million each year um we also are seeing this year um our special education revenues are coming in about 1.5 million less than we were projecting at first interim and and um we are seeing first projections from our Health and Welfare um that we are probably going to see closer to a 9 to 10% increase in our Health and Welfare premiums next year initially we were projecting just 5% so the problem is this in 2526 when we bring the budget forward we are required by law by Education Code to bring three years the budget year plus two subs years so what will happen is at some point in 2526 I'm not
140sure if it's going to be at adopted budget first inter term second inter term um we will not be able to meet our 3% minimum Reserve in the third year out which is 2728 one thing we also have to consider is right now in our budget we don't have any negotiated increases budgeted in any of the years um we're still negotiating this year so that's not included so that will increase the ongoing deficit spending so what I anticipate is at some point in um next year um we will have a qualified budget so what that means is the county will require us to come forward with a fiscal stabilization plan so that means that as a community we are going to have to make the same decisions that we're looking at now the dollar amount
141it will be greater because we're having to make those decisions all at one time which is what we were trying to avoid um what we will see is if we can't as a community make those decisions um by next uh by the next March 15th deadline um we will start to see cash flow issues probably in the 26 27 school year and once we get cash flow issues it doesn't matter if our fund balance shows that we can meet our 3% required Reserve that is an automatic negative certification so if we don't pass anything tonight we will have about until next march to now have to make double the reductions um before we're heading into a negative certification likely so it is um that is why we were trying to make these incremental reductions so
142it was not such a shock to the system thank you so I put these numbers together which I'm sorry a little bit small to read I'm glad I have a piece of paper in front of me with the numbers I took this off of the first interim and the projected 2526 and projected 2627 and I started off with I think our Reserve is 56 million is that about right in our unrestricted general b yes okay thank you so by the end of this fiscal year which is June 30th 2025 I think we have deficit spending for this fiscal year of about 31 million which means our $56 million Reserve is reduced to about 24 almost 25 million so part of that looks like um you may be including possibly the restricted side as well um
143I included both sides both sides M so um on our restricted side the deficit spending is planned because we got um multiple one-time block grants um that are tied to multi-year spending plans um so when we're looking at kind of when we're analyzing where a district is going um the focus is usually on the unrestricted side because that is a site that funds our general education program okay I was looking at the whole picture and I'm going to continue that can you go to the next slide please so I like to look at pie charts because they make things easier for me when I'm just looking at rows and rows of numbers that don't always become clear to me are you hungry oh because you're looking at you're looking at my pie okay so the
144the P on the left shows us landing the plane um with expenses of $388 million the if you start at midnight or start at 12 and go down to about I guess that's 4 that first piece of pie is our certified employees the next section the prettier blue I think it's prettier blue is our classified and the lighter blue is our benefits so that's our people just roughly looking at that that looks like 75% then the The Rosy or kind of pinkish Shades um are encompassed of mat the first one is materials and supplies the second piece services and others and the final one Capital outlay As you move into the next year you'll see that the pink section has been reduced by about 60 million and the especially the [Music] um benefits piece grows
145and at that stage we're probably around um maybe because of some changes that that Jenny talked about um somewhere around 78,000 is all we have left in our Reserve then if you go to the final piece um it stays about the same which isn't exactly what I expected when I first started doing this I assumed that there would be um larger increases in benefits of what I'm seeing in that piece can you go to the next slide please I'm really just trying to show Gabe that I actually have some computer skills because he's been doubting me um so the first section of blue blue green and red that's this year and again that's based on the first interim not the the preliminary second interim the blue is our Reserve that's $56 million the green is
146what we're bringing in this year and again that's the combination of restricted and unrestricted and the red is what we're spending that looks like deficit spending to me of something like $31 million we go into the next year our Reserve um is about half what it was a little bit less um we're still in deficit spending and the the final year in the projection we're still at deficit spending I don't think that's a very pretty picture and I'm scared and I know you're all great people doing great work and I don't want to see any changes in what you're doing and I don't want to see anything happen that's affecting our kids but this is frightening to me and I think it's frightening to Jenny who spends an awful time an awful lot of time
147especially in the middle of the night thinking about these numbers and what what else could be done um I did have one other question as I'm looking at this um when when a when a budget was presented a three-year budget including this year and the next two years to the County Office of Ed um it was approved by them as I forget the correct term but it's an everything looks okay for three years kind of a budget so at first C term the county office um did approve our positive certification which essentially means that we are able to meet the required 3% Reserve in all three years and what has changed because that's not what I'm seeing on here so um so right now what we're seeing is um the budget for 2425 the two
148out years are 20 5 26 26 27 so that shows that we are able to meet the required 3% in the current year multi-year projection when we bring forward the 25 26 budget for the first time so next school Year's budget we are going to see 2728 for the very first time as part of our multi-year projection that is the year where we are likely not to meet our um 3% reserve and I'm going to kind of bring us back to the purpose of of being required by Ed code to have a multi-year projection so we are required to have a multi-year projection this was part of assembly Bill 1200 and it was because there were school districts that were heading into fiscal insolvency across the state so AB 1200 was created to essentially Force
149districts to start looking into the out and start making appropriate decisions strategic decisions before we got to that point so what I want to implore to the board and to the community is these cuts are absolutely heartbreaking they are not something that any of us have taken lately but what we have right now is a gift with the multi-year projection of being able to see this is what's heading down the line let us make strategic decisions as a community so that we are not having to make decisions when we are qualified and having to do all this in one year so that we are not having a negative certification like what happened at Live Oak where they had to have um essentially fitmat come in that was devastating so if we are not using the
150tools at our disposal that is where we are going to head thank you and I'm done with questions now I just have a um couple of conclusions that from conversation with you and from the digging that I've done we can't afford classrooms that are only half full uncredentialed teachers are not serving our children well and if anyone in here is an uncredentialed teacher go get your credential you can do it simultaneously while you're working um and I know that's not easy but I think it's really important perhaps the board would consider continuing the retirement bonuses even if well we did get to the 30 so let's forget that question or comment um we have a lot of work to do I think most of us up here and certainly all of you have talked about
151the need to evaluate what's happening in this building who's here what do they do we spend um on debt service for this building [Music] 1,1 $27,000 a year and we've got 10 years left to pay on it if we were able to restructure our schools and end up with a vacant campus or to Is it feasible to move the people who are in The Towers there the one thing I haven't really figured out is the great kitchen that's in this space and where that would go and how that would um be accommodated and and back to um downsizing classes or not classes but um schools and combining and Workforce housing on some of those sites um I think probably the most of the school sites should not be sold because maybe we keep declining and
152we plateau and we don't want to have to bring a bunch of um Portables onto the sites that we kept but not having to run those schools is a savings I believe so I'm hopeful just as as my friend Jessica is that in the next cycle we're um addressing reducing from the top not just the kinds of things that we're looking at right now um and I'm also hopeful that we continue addressing our declining enrollment and lost Revenue um can be accomplished with the measures that we're talking about with the towers but I feel strongly that we also need to adopt this um this resolution that we're looking at right now um and I'm hopeful that we end up not having to actually let anybody go with the con except for the people who don't
153have credentials sorry um and that that won't be as painful as it might have been if we hadn't made the offer and if there weren't people willing to retire at this stage um I will promise you that even though I'm going to vote for this even if it fails I won't vote for another one of these unless we've done that top to bottom study on what's happening in the towers now we got time I don't I don't think we have time um and i' I'd also like to my very last thing I'm going to say to my friend Joy talking about what's happening on the federal level I hope the state of California follows the lead of the governor of Maine keep our taxes here so we can backfill whatever we're not getting from the
154federal government thank you truste Turley um I agree with everything you said um I would like to also bring up uh you brought up a lot of the points I bring up but class sizes one of the stats that we looked at was is it beneficial to have you know 17 what are what are the academic outcomes for class that has 17 versus a class that has you know 30 and there was no great Improvement so um it's that's stats that's stats this is data so we have to be smart with what we are given I agree that you know California does not give us enough um and that's something that we all as well as you guys should be reaching out to our um governor and our and all the way to DC to
155ask you know to be funded better um but also I look forward to the day when these board meetings are focused on our student achievement and what we can do to to bring more students to our district our superintendent has some amazing ideas that are going to make our schools look appealing to all those who are choosing to go outside of our district but unfortunately for the last 10 months of her time here she's been having to focus on our budget and and to bring it back tonight again I mean it's just countless night nights and weekends and everything and so I wholeheartedly will support this um I don't believe you know we are doing our district any justice if we're Staffing classrooms with no students in them so trusty Medina we have we have
156if we leave our staffing as is we will not have enough students we have we have no students we are projected to lose another 600 students from this year to next thank you um Jenny would you say the projections are equal to assumptions so when we're creating a budget um we use uh projections and planning factors um based on uh the best known information we have both at the the federal state and local level so it it wouldn't account for let's say we reduce the work week Millennials start having babies and we get more numbers coming into the district do any of you uh have you ran a positive projected budget in case that we do see an increase so one of the things that we look at are uh projections um from the Department
157of Finance that incorporates um things like birth rates so right now the latest information that we have and they are looking at things like birth rates is Santa Cruz County is projected to see um they're saying anywhere from 16 to 18% continued enrollment decline through the next decade um we have seen 18% enrollment decline since I believe the 2013 14 school year um so that is definitely a factor that is very important okay and you said Santa Cruz County what about Monteray uh montere county is not as um projecting a big deal increase but it is also in I believe in the top um 10 counties seeing a decline within the state because of the location that we're in okay got it so all right cool and then um I kind of want to direct
158us over towards the Arts um and I would love to go just down the line for the cabinet and this is a yes or no question um do any of you have a background in arts education or been professionally trained in the 2019 California visual performing art standards and we'll start with you Claudia yes or no self-trained self I'll take that as a no okay because that's part of my job is to selft train myself got it but you didn't get the official standard done so is that a yes or no I answer cool next I am a chief business officer so no no right okay let's go no no I'm a classified director so no [Music] okay no no so we got a self-taught person and we got a few NOS do you think
159that you all are capable of making decisions without involving Stephanie Monroe seeing that you don't have the proper training to address the Arts education so I'm not sure why we're talking specifically about Stephanie Monro if you had looked at the reorganization that we brought forward on the resolution that's coming up I can talk more about that at that time is that the next one that's coming up I believe it's the last one it's the last one cool get ready for those question Claudia thank you trusty Flynn oh sorry sorry I wanted to thank trusty Turley for the time and effort you put into that presentation I felt like it was uh really informative um and answered a lot of questions that I had um I yeah that was I'm I'm really taken aback by the
160contention on the on the board um it's been something that I've witnessed over the last few meetings that I've watched and then yesterday and um it it makes me sad because I have so respect for every person on here especially uh trusty Navaro and you as well um the perspectives and the LIF lived experience I find a lot of value about and um I I feel like moving forward if there is some way that um there can be maybe um less I guess Jabs and some sort of I don't know if it's in close session or something because um I I feel like it's a stumbling block for us moving forward um because both of you have so much um to to bring to the table I um trusty Navaro the the things that you
161said there were a lot that um I agree with and there was a lot in there that I did not agree with with respectfully um and yeah trusty Medina you always have um great insight as well um it's just it's it's hard to like be I feel like maybe a a kid between two parents um because I want to um I I I really want to agree with with both of you and um have have unity and I I hope that that can that it can at some point Come uh It's upsetting to me if you can um tell the conflict um when I would like for us to be a team I'd like to move on to um talking about the Arts a little bit more um because the um the the vapa and
162the CTE is something that keeps coming up and so again in in an effort to bring this forward and maybe make different um adjustments uh I I need to better understand um the the impact of the loss of these teachers and given the presentation that trusty Turley gave um would those positions potentially be filled um I I I'm still trying to understand how how this works um I remember talking about supplanting not being an option CU it's did oh go ahead so yes you're right supplanting is not an option so what happens is there's um annual allocations that are given to sites it's based on the number of students each year that number can fluctuate because again it's based on the number of students so with that um you have to look at what the
163um Bas is and what we're talking about base is that St that um teacher to student ratio so like for example speaking directly about because the vapa teachers listed up here come up a lot so to address those so those were reduced based on when administrators were building their Master schedules for example I'll talk about the high school ones um so when they build those Master schedules they're looking at the number of students they have in the grade levels they're looking at the number of sections that are needed for all of the core classes and um vaa is one of those core because it is a graduation requirement and then they're also looking at what the number of students have been typically in those classes across the board so that's where um the decisions to
164make those reductions came in now with those reductions could they potenti po bring be brought back sure because they are skilled they have definitely credentials that we could be using um to expand programs above the base so um when we look at that that's so what would the supplanting would be if we said we're going to keep them there and then we're going to just fund them with prop 28 that would be the supplanting piece we want to be strategic also about how we're using our prop 20 funds so one of the things that um I've been uh working with um some other of our um um districts is looking at how are they building out their programs and looking at how like for example what is being offered at high schools and then what
165are we doing at middle schools to prepare or build their their vapa skills for what classes are being offered at their high school and then looking at what can be offered at elementary right now what we've done for the past like last year and this year um we got rolling really quickly and so I don't think that we've had as thoughtful of a plan as we could so that's one of the shifts that we need to start to look at um and then where we're building those programs out that's where we can create those additional positions that can get paid for through prop 28 okay yeah I have have another question go ahead um did you work with Stephanie on that mhm you didn't well well the working with the other districts no I did
166not work with her I've been working as my job as assistant superintendent of cipd that was my job to do that research got it and what's Stephanie Monroe's role again she is the vapa coordinator she is the one who has been working with the site administrators on helping to develop which uh disciplines that they want to have at their site after they've worked with their School site councils to decide what the community is asking for at the sites okay and um I got some data and it it was really interesting to see that a lot of the students that actually entered the music program were doing a lot better academically MH 100% that's great um so to see that some of these cuts to our vapa teachers when we know through science that Arts help
167so I'm I 100% agree with you Gabriel St Medina excuse me um but that doesn't mean again I even though they're getting cut here that doesn't mean that we're not going to have other opportunities to bring those specifically the vapa teachers back because we do need to expand our programs at other sites at all of our sites actually so they they could be brought back it might not be in the exact site or in the exact course that they're teaching right now but we definitely have opportunities to bring them back we already have positions that are opening for the fall um I've been meeting with principles I know Stephanie sat with me on some of those meetings and then she even LED some of them on her own um so that we could start to
168talk to them about what is their plan for next year what is the discipline that they want to move into what is potentially the FTE that they could cover with their prop 28 funds that would be sustainable all the way out to 2728 so they're already putting those positions in I've already worked with um HR so we are looking at those to see where potentially um we can bring our vapa teachers back got it okay thank you um can I get Brandon or Nellie to come up and speak on behalf of labor for this how yeah n my big question is how is this going to impact our students and our teachers well it's going to impact our students by not having that certificated teacher available to them uh you're going to maximize on your
169class sizes I do understand that there are some classes that uh might only have 17 um a question actually I think that's really important for you all to maybe ask and know did that data of those class sizes that are around 17 did that also include um Renaissance and new school no I took out the charters and are all dead thank you and and then I also looked for as much as I can there's a lot of and and the ELD and the sadai as well um I also tried to find in the tricky places where there are two classes within one class period um you know specifically around CTE and and which actually shouldn't be happening that was something that we as a pbft and the district have battled over the years and it's
170you don't combine a video one and video two or video two and a video three in one class that's not really serving the students um but so it it is um when you are playing with people's emotions and giving them a layoff and saying but at least you can apply for unemployment and you'll be on the 39 Monon rehire list it's good and it's a little bit alarming um with uh our prop 28 funds I mean I understand what your strategy is but prop 28 monies it's under the direction of the School site so what I'm then also hearing is then that the district will be directing the school sites how to use so that's what I that's what it looks sounds like when you have a specific vapa teacher um and you know a
171specialized vapa teacher in an area where you want to utilize some of the prop 28 Monies to re-employ them so the district we are not at the district level saying where the teachers are going to go what we are doing at the district level is we're working working with the administrators asking them what their site is wanting they're putting the requisitions in so that bank is building up right now so when those jobs get open and posted then the vapa teachers will be able to see what's out there that's that's what we're doing we are not saying oh you you came from this high school this is your credential so therefore you must go over here that is not what we're doing so when we have a vacancy in our district the district can choose
172to fill it or not but in the process of a vacancy they have to post it that is a requirement they'll post it and anybody can hire in our contract what we have is if you are um a current employee and you're interested in a position then you can apply and it's not like you know you don't have to provide all the references and all that other stuff that another person from out of the district would be um providing but it's still you're in this pool and so there's like this not a guarantee cuz you are still going to go through an interview process um as per what we have in contract and as per the expectations of you know what we would expect of any employer is putting up you know posting a job
173so there is um one we still believe that this is not necessary um that we can work through attrition your first interim is positive is positive rating um and you yeah you so you have really next year cuz we still I we're at the end of February and between retirements and resignations around 43 um that haven't already like the people I took out the people that already retired or resigned um this year and then you're going to have um all the others that are going to be submitting their resignations and retirements um you know in the next coming months so you're creating um this is a layoff notice it's not really hey we're wanting to write that is called the displacement process and that's what we have laid out in contract and that's what we
174have what I have been talking about for months now um we rely on the vacancies that are created and that if those vacancies are going to be refilled that's another important aspect of this process just because somebody leaves a position doesn't mean that position is going to be filled that's never a guarantee so in this displacement Pro um process we rely on the um we have teachers who are also on um the non- reelect list and so M they're having to make a decision on how they're going to address that are they going to get the non- reelect and you'll get that list um next week at the board meeting and that is not included in the retirement resignation number so we have people who are not are going to be non- reelected we have
175um people who are retiring who we already know who are retiring and people that are still telling me I'm going to retire but I'm not going to put in my retirement just yet and then the people that are already looking for another job because it's expensive to live here and so they're looking to move somewhere more affordable um so those are the things that are are still in like waiting and that is what has served us uh as the the pbft the the representative of our certificated membership staff that then in April we work with human resources and on average we've had just over a hundred retirement resignations every year so it provides cabinet and school sites the opportunity to go okay this is how we're going to um you know downsize and then at
176sites and we deal with this again every spring and it's very emotional for our teachers at sites because sometimes they've been at sites for you know many years and then somebody has to be the tribute or it goes by seniority that they're going to be displaced from their School site and then there's this list that is created of um here are all the teachers now that need to be displaced in our district and here are all the vacancies that have been um that have been created due to retirements and resignations and non- re-elects um and so here is you know we know what the certification of these you know how they're credentialed and where it all matches so there is already this process and everybody is um you know they're not going through the emotional
177roller coaster uh of I just got ping slipped and I don't know that there is this absolute guarantee like oh I heard it at a board meeting because maybe if I'm a vapa teacher I might be able to get into one of those slots but there's a process for that and um and so again it's this it's this uh idea or this way that you're trying to get yourself to believe that this is okay this is okay because they can get unemployment this is okay because they can get rehired um and that's not okay it's not okay when we talk about mental health and we already talk about how crushing it is to live in this County with low pay and you're struggling to either an affordable place or just you know be eat um
178an affordable meal somewhere so for you all to think to be told oh but this is what always happens you know what it does but not through this process and those other districts when we look at fmat and the and the districts that are in trouble we're not there we're years away from that so you have next year to have this conversation and not Blindside the the stakeholders in this in this community thank you Nelly and then Brandon did you want to add something during my time yeah um I did and I appreciate you calling us I I would like toec I'll keep this really fast so we submitted a demand to bargain to the district on Wednesday one minut can you wait one minute if you give me one minute to speak when you're
179done hold on one minute Brandon you're just going to tell me to go sit back down then I'm going to keep going keep going Brand This is my time hold on trusty Medina just a minute please um actually Olivia truste president Flores is the only one who would call someone and this is not a time when we call people from the public to speak we if we look at our board policy we actually could allow the board to speak on items that we have questions about that is policy and I could recite you that policy right now longer than the point that I was exactly can you continue all I was going to say is that we have had a vote at baharo Valley High School to approve a seven period bell schedule which should
180trigger negotiations we submitted a demand to bargain on that negotiations last Wednesday and not only have we not gotten an invitation to bargain the district hasn't even acknowledged receipt of that demand to bargain letter when we look at this resolution and we see High School positions on this resolution and we have an inequity in our district where apas high school has a seven period bell schedule Watsonville high school has a six period bell schedule with this Flex time we shouldn't be right sizing we should be fair sizing and instead of laying these people off why don't we move them to PV high school and give PV High School a seven period bell schedule because I believe that there are opportunities to do more Justice for our students and I even think like the flex period
181at Watsonville High we lose students at the high school level it's not just the kindergarten level to have a period where students get to choose which class they want to go with that they can self-direct their own learning and their own research I think there's power in that and I just thank you for allowing me to speak I'm going to wrap it up but I do believe that there's room to negotiate and fair size our district following our collective bargaining agreement and bring greater Equity across our high schools thank you with our declining class sizes though our budget is going down so I don't know how you keep on describing declining enrollment declining enrollment where are your Sol Solutions that's what I don't hear you are Contin look it I'm going to give you some
182solutions right now okay you ready for this look at this why don't we Energy Efficiency upgrading LED lights installing solar panels and improving HVAC reducing administrative cost streamlining central office positions consolidating roles or adjust management structures can lower overhead expenses without affecting compliance optimizing bus routes because guess what our bus routes get canceled all the time so adjusting School Transportation routes reducing can you please let me talk thank you and leveraging grants and Partnerships shared services partnering with other districts or local agencies to share resources like professional development technology infrastructure or bulk purchasing agreement reducing paper use moving to digital communication online forms and electronic textbooks can reduce Printing and paper cost rethinking facility use renting out unused space in school buildings for community events adult education programs or local organizations purchasing coop operatives schools
183can save money by joining purchasing cooperatives uh programs that allow districts to buy supplies technology and food in bulk maximize attendance since funding is often tied to average daily attendance efforts to reduce absenteeism uh absenteeism through positive engagement strategies can bring in more State funds without increasing cost using open education resources adopting free high quality online textbooks and instructional material instead of purchasing from traditional Publishers community funded initiatives establishing Education Foundation or parent teacher Association that can raise funds for Arts music and mental health programs while ensuring transparency re-evaluating facility maintenance costs conducting a review of maintenance contract contracts to identify cost savings without sacrificing safety upkeep or violating State Facility requirement there you go there you go lot of those we are actually do Go including the site I mean you listed them off
184so quickly I I wrote down a few site fees we do we do actually rent our sites on weekends so we are utilizing that we have an amazing attendance campaign that has increased our attendance so we are doing a lot of what you're asking us J but none of this is going to solve the problem we have right now this is long those are long-term goals that we are going to implement I was told by A very wise philosophy Professor who said losers will always say this is the way it has been done and winners will say we need to change this how could we make it better with our constituents and I abide by that very wholeheartedly that is exactly what we're trying to do here our district has done what Nelly had come
185up and said how we did it through attrition that's what our district has done for years we have a new superintendent here that was baffled that we've never done it this way which is what how many districts do it and so we are trying to change things up because our district is struggling and it has been struggling since 2019 we have have to do something and that's when you were on the board correct so why didn't you take those actions I was not on the board what about the previous board why didn't you guys take those actions to actually address this we didn't even this we didn't see this coming until Mr sheckman brought it to our attention and Jenny really Jenny m is who I I recall bringing it to our attention and from
186that moment on we have been doing things and the district you know last year through attrition and the district do everyone he talking about do 1.2 million was cut so we are doing stuff and if you think of percentages like put the do classified certificate look at it as a percentage they're they are doing like Jessica was saying you know we'd like to see a little different everyone is pulling their their weight every we can't expect it all to come out of one or the other it's a it's a percentage thing as well and I do believe the do is covering their percentage of their of their Cuts I just don't think you guys are being creative enough and looking at other Solutions that's why I have an issue with this love your ideas Gabe
187and I think once we Implement them we will start seeing the the fruition of that but we're not going to see it right away it's going to take time and you do have some brilliant ideas I don't you had mentioned the 4-day uh class I I mean I as a parent would love that there are a lot of parents who couldn't do that we would give we would have that fifth day where we would still have to have something for our students because parents work well guess what I got a plan for that because Cabrio College has a child development program and to CB if we are actually to partner with them they could provide not only child care but they could come in and allow the the teachers to actually have a period where
188they could do their damn work so like I so that's what we need to start looking these are these are great ideas that we will look into it's not something that's going to fix our problem right now though Daniel uh student trustee uh Esa would you be incentivized or students if you had the right to vote in our elections do you think that would motivate you and others to come to school more I think it it's kind of a subjective question because a lot of people choose to be engaged but others don't um I think in terms of voting I think I mean people would be more civically engaged um but I think what what was the question exactly um I mean if they're elect I mean I I guess it's a really subjective question
189because I mean for me I would but others I know I have some friends that maybe won't cuz they don't like going to school in general so I think it's it's kind of subjective on the person I like that what would make those friends of yours want to come to school um this is actually a discussion that we've had with our uh superintendent student advisory but um that's currently what we're working on because we're we're looking at different possible Avenues um we're currently discussing with Claudia about um redeveloping our curriculum so what is pvsd going to be known for um and I think there's like a big combination different aspects in order to encourage students to come to our district so I think that's something that we're currently working on but um I feel yeah
190that's a difficult question to ask but I mean there's a lot that I know we're also talking about like a homework policy um and yeah there's a lot but yeah I mean yeah I hope that kind of answered thank you yeah and I I want you to know too your voice really matters in this conversation because it's going to directly impact students so if you have something that you want to say please be vocal about that okay awesome thank you Daniel trusty Flynn thank you for the robust conversation and yes the ideas are brilliant I am concerned that they don't address everything immediately um but I would love to partner with you however I can moving forward to make those things come to fruition um and so coming back to the immediacy of um kind
191of what I had talked about before concerned concerns about um poent Pro most likely a lack of funding from the state and the federal government and um addressing declining enrollment something has to be done um I wanted to bring this back in front of you today um to to look at to answer to get questions answered trusty turley's um presentation was really really helpful uh for me um kind of going back to the Arts something that somebody had um texted me oops today um is if if new art teachers are are laid off um do the funds return to to the um prop 28 funds return to the school to spend on hiring um and what's the plan to allow for site spending while proposing layoffs um to some content areas I didn't fully understand
192the question I was just going to say can we break that question up a little bit I need to rehear that yeah yeah um so if okay so let me let me think about what you said about the first part so if these are questions that are coming to me from constituents yeah yeah so I think the first part of what you said is if a new vapa teacher um is laid off then would the prop 28 money go back to the site okay so if it's a new teacher funded by prop 28 that teacher would need to be paid for their time working so it's not like there would be money to go back but keep in mind that the schools are getting money annually so they would continue to have and we got
193I mean prop 28 is a blessing right now MH so that we need to take advantage of that um so yeah I mean if they're if they've worked they need to be paid so there wouldn't be money to go back into a PO yeah I didn't understand the question but I felt it important that I what's that oh okay so so Mike's bringing up what if they didn't work as much as was allocated so they get paid for the obviously the the time that they work if um let's say new teachers there and we're saying okay will we budget out for you know the three years of that annual allocation um they don't work those three years then any money not given not paid to the teacher stays in that that site's budget and they
194have a certain amount of time in which they can use it they do for every allocation it has to be spent within three years okay how is that going so right now um we have and I can actually tell you one second um most of our sites are actually in Green in terms of being able to um spend all of their money their first allocation of money um by the end of next year um we have and this is an old one we have one site who we're still working with and that's one site that has uh quite a bit of carryover that we're looking at how we're building out their particular program to be able to spend it down with conversations with them um once we fill those positions that they're going to be
195putting in then they should be able to spend it down by the time the three years rolls around okay which would be uh first allocation is uh end of next school year I have a question I'm just having a hard time putting it together in my head um as it pertains to the vapa teachers and a previous um part of the conversation that we had around um supplanting um yeah please please please so I did I tried to do my research from prop 28 because I knew there was a lot of things I didn't know so I learned and um that if you had a teacher let's say an English teacher at wsom oh High m who was interested in creating their English class into a theater theater script class correct then they would be
196able to be paid through prop 28 money is that true that is true if it's on top of it's like it would be considered additional sections over what they had before yes so they wouldn't be able to do like half theater writing and the other half regular English they could okay yeah they could depending on what the need is from the kids yeah they could have more than one section for sure okay have we offered that um I know Stephanie's been working really hard with the sites about trying to uh talk to English teachers about that point with the theater piece also PE teachers around dance because that's another one that works very similar to that so she has been working really hard on that piece okay yeah um and I and I asked that
197too because as a social studies teacher I did a lot of visual art yep right but I was never this this was never something that was offered that I knew about right so I'm wondering how many teachers would jump at that opportunity and then we wouldn't have to pay them through regular budget we would pay them through prop 28 it would be well we'd have to be okay that's where I was going thank you um so we do have to be careful with that piece because like she said there does need to be um credentialing involved in that and what you're talking about like if we just had a social studies teacher who was doing an integrating the visual arts piece that's not necessarily A a vapa course right so it would still need to
198be considered a a vapa course for it to count okay um and then that's how we could fund through prop 28 so there's there's some that's that's where the prop 28 piece can get a little tricky because we do have to pay attention to the credentialing so then the PE teacher would essentially need to have a dance credential yes and we or well that and we are also looking at so when I'm talking about long-term sustainability with using the prop 28 funds one of the things that we need to be looking at is how are we helping teachers who don't have the proper credentials who want to do vapa work how can we help them so those are like um if you look at Hayward Unified for example they have a really strong program there
199and they have worked with um they started off super strong so they're a great role model to look at um and their first year that they began using their prop 28 funds um one of the first things they did was work with their human resources department and local Comm local colleges to figure out how they can get um support for teachers who wanted to do credentialing could we do that this summer that's what I'm trying to look into to see how soon we can get that going yeah for sure the other and then just the the other thing to add is um because I'm again what I'm trying to create this bigger picture plan I'm also looking at not just what are we doing during the day because again prop 28 can cover things it's
200above base so that also includes opportunities after school and before school as long as it's happening at the site we have the credential vapa people working it that those are other opportunities for our students I know that there's been um I I that the whole piece about equity and those of you who I know there's teachers out there that who have worked with me and know me as a person they know that Equity is extremely important to me um all four of my kids um are either in schools right now in this District or have graduated I have multiple nieces and nephews in basically 80% of our schools they are so instruction opportunities of any kind in this district is extremely personal for me so so the again I'm trying to think how outside of
201the box can we go to build the vapa program so I want to be super super clear to the public that vappa is not going away at all in fact I want it to get bigger because trusty Medina you're right the the data does show that vaa does help with the other content area instruction I see it at home with my kids I saw it with myself um vappa has been something that's super strong in my family my grandfather was a famous sculptor in Mexico um so much so that when he passed away his death was on the news in the United States and that has been not just sculptor but painters I have artists um uh oh my God I'm spacing it's starting to get late anyways thank you sketch artists um we have
202musicians in the family so vapa is again it it is something that I find is very very important and I don't want it to go away so I want to be very clear because I know there's the rumors that are out there that I'm trying to get rid of it um and then my other question is um I would like us to involve Stephanie a lot more only because so I work for a nonprofit that focuses on um helping adults and children create careers out of the creativity what we've realized is artists are very unique where if they don't know you right there's not much of that bridging right and I've seen it with my students they will go out and volunteer if I ask them but if anybody else ask them they're not going
203to do it right because of that trust so I just I I would even would like to volunteer to do this Outreach right y but I want to see it and I want to see actual artists doing this Outreach for example Stephanie who's already out there doing it because we know where to look and we know how to get them right yep um not to take over anything but to help right and we need so that we don't have right we need to have a a bigger committee on it so one of my action plans for this next semester is to put that together I've already um formulated the Visionary Network so that's where what um Daniel was talking about earlier where we're looking at just overarching instruction but we do need to get uh
204uh specifically around prop 28 funding a committee going so I will definitely let you know when we start that um because we do need to have I have up meetings with some of our other um Community Partners this week and next week to start talking about that and what are some opportunities that we can do um with Jen through expanded learning as well so we can keep that that going so in terms of Stephanie I'm not quite sure what you mean by involve for more because she is the one heading that up yeah so I'm is there something specific on my thing is is um I know that when I do Outreach right um it is a bigger impact when you yourself are part of that Community right right so that's that's why I'm I'm
205saying that because I know she is part of that Community yeah and I know that those classes will go from 17 to 25 right right and I and that's that's why I'm bringing it up because if there's more artists who can recognize other artists they'll feel like oh yeah I want to do this class because you told me about it not because some counselor was like oh yeah you should take that no and we do need to have training with our counselors as well so it's a it's a whole bigger system piece around how do we put those pieces into place for our students yeah um and I'm I'm glad you brought that other piece up in terms of um so yes we are looking at how are we going to be training our our
206counselors at the high schools as well to help them build that and darn it there was something else I wanted to piggy back on because I was actually writing about that last week when I was looking at building out a master plan which again side note I was planning on bringing that to you guys in April Ro so it is in the works and it is coming so you'll get that bigger picture all the way out through 2028 thank you thank you uh trusty Naro um so I just had a couple quick things and joy I really appreciate your sentiments because I too would like to work together as a functioning team um you I I've noticed that I've get personally attacked a lot and you and I are both appointed trustees yet I'm the
207only one that really gets attacked so that feels personal and I'm I've been trying to let it roll off my back but it gets hard um I also think that Gabe has a lot of great ideas and he and I actually have a lot in common but unfortunately he hasn't actually taken the time to get to know me um I understand the the stress of the pink lip and Nelly I I hope that you didn't think that I was flippant I didn't say anything about applying for unemployment what I was saying is this is something that actually is pretty typical and unfortunately just how how this works that you have to notifi notify people by March 15th about layoffs um if if they could go until June when we actually knew how many people were
208retiring that would make a lot more sense but unfortunately these are just the rules that we have to follow um I really care about this District I have students in this District I see our achievement and we can hopefully only go up uh I also think that Arts are really important um one of my best friends is the vapa coordinator for her district and I'm learning as much as I can about prop 28 and I'm really excited about the ideas that you're bringing forth and I'm hoping that you we can increase the student enrollment those sizes but unfortunately right now like just the one side I went to I was looking at the numbers and there's there's classes that could be Consolidated it's it doesn't take much to look below the covers on that one
209and in that regard I am going to move to make a motion to approve this resolution second okay I have a first and a second do we have any other discussion or are we ready for a vote trust you Medina trusty novaro you're a Gemini correct we'll get there Libras and Geminis take some time but we will get there okay just letting you know that it's in the cards thank you best friend of Gemini each thank you trusty Medina okay so I have a first and a second to approve resolution 24221 can I have a roll call vote please Eva trusty Turley your vote Yes trusty Medina your vote no trusty Flynn your vote Yes trusty carasco your vote no Trustin your vote Yes president Flores your vote Yes and that motion passes 4 2
2101 okay and now I will move us on to item 4.4 resolution 2 4- 25-22 reduction of particular kinds of classified employee services for the 2025 2026 school year based on the need for right sizing due to overstaffing report will be presented by Claudia manaras assistant superintendent of curriculum and instruction again I'm just going to start with the introduction on the resolution and then Claudia can move on to the present ation so good evening again Angelia the fourth time resolution number 24 2522 is also based on the need for right sizing and this is for classified positions as supported by education codes 45298 and 45308 okay um so I know there were questions about um instructional assistance I just want to call out a little bit around um I know at the last boarding board
211meeting there was a question around the number of them and the impact that it was having on our class classrooms so oh why is it doing that sester okay no no okay pushing the wrong button I'm awake all right here we go um I'm going to kind of skip the beginning and just get to the meat of this because I know we're looking at you know it's 9 o' already so um all right I wanted to kind of explain where um seven of those positions that were brought forward last meeting where those originated from so um back in 2023 we did not have uh very many classes that had excuse me schools that had full day Kinder programs which means kids were getting out of school around 11:30 12:00 12:15 whereas after school programs we're
212starting um when the full day was ending so there's a gap of time in there where um our Kinders if they were going to stay for after school would not have somebody supervising them this is also around the time that all the elop money came in um and we needed to have the extended like 9-hour program for our students so um Jen Bruno our director expanded U executive director for expanded learning she was really creative in being able to come up with a way to use some of those elop funds to fund IAS during that 11:00 a.m. to 6 p.m. part of the day so that the kids would have a continue to have education and enrichment during that time and then they would go into the um after school program part of the day
213for the rest of the afternoon so that's where seven of those positions that's where they came from so the other thing to think about is because this was in 2223 um as more schools in 23 24 became full day Kinder CL classes we didn't need as many of the IAS so this is actually year two of this process last year we actually went through this process before and those sites that went full day we did reduce out those IIA positions at that time because there were no students for them to supervise at that time on this slide I do want to call out two uh bullets here that are really really important and um one of those is the second one there so because I called out already before those positions were for the full
214day uh um the excuse me the non full day TK and Kinder classes so the second bullet there where it's calling out that the positions are being eliminated due to overlap with core instructional time if we remember why or what the purpose of the elop funding is we can't be funding staff during our core instructional Day program if we do that we're violating the agreement or the the what's the word I'm looking for the requirements of the money and if we do if we violate that we run the risk of losing millions of dollars from after school program so um so that is why these seven positions were um identified because as of fall of 2025 all of our schools will have full day TK and full day K so those positions um we can't
215continue to legally fund those positions during the core instructional time the retaining those is a cost of 392,000 and again like it says in bullet number three we're risking that fiscal compliance and we could potentially lose a lot of money I mean I know 392 sounds like a lot but we would be risking Millions more so I just wanted to call those things out questions thank you do we have any discussion from the board oh sorry trusty Which Way J yeah sorry I just wanted to read the last bullet point thank you okay if we have no discussion we we could entertain a motion we're missing a truste she us using the restroom but I'm sure she'll be back before we get to the vote I understand that um with these positions a lot of
216them have actually been moved on to another position already so we're literally just collapsing the position because of the twoyear yeah because of the two-year process a lot of those folks have already been um shifted to other yeah pieces and ensuring that elop is not you know violation that's huge that's is huge that's huge yeah we do not want to risk we need our elop funds yes we do not want to risk any of that President Flores yes sorry while we're waiting for um uh vice president Navaro um I I want to thank the piece that I really agreed with uh truste novaro about was um and I guess Murray I I hadn't met him till tonight had um Shar Mr shman yes yes I hadn't met him till tonight um just the sentiments that
217everybody has shared about um your commitment Jenny and um just how you really want to make this work you've worked tirelessly with me um and so I just want to acknowledge that and really appreciate your your commitment and um your availability to all of us really just to to um to sh share data you know I'm data and stories it's important to me um but I I trust the data that you're you're giving me um and I trust that you want to hold this together so I just wanted to say that while you were away so thank you so I will entertain a motion I move approval of this resolution thank you I have a motion to approve resolution 24252 do I have a second I second we have I have a first and a
218second Eva can I have a roll call please trusty Charley your vote Yes trusty Medina your vote no trusty Flynn your vote Yes trusty carasco your vote no trusty narro your vote Yes president Flores your vote Yes and that motion passes 421 thank you I will now move us on to our last resolution resolution 4.5 um 24- 25-22 reduction of particular kinds of certificated employee services for the 2025 2026 school year based on the needs to restructure the curriculum and instruction Department report will be presented by Claudia manara's assistant superintendent of curriculum and instruction again I'm I'm going to introduce the resolution and then we'll have Claudia do the presentation resolution 24 2523 for certificated positions this resolution is based on the need to restructure the curriculum and instruction Division and it's also supported by
219Education Code 44955 the list of certificated positions that are considered for this resolution are listed as exhibit a and in order to improve student outcomes and to maintain a healthy budget the district recommends your approval on this resolution okay you get me again all right so um again I'm going to jump to our to the meat of this um I'm putting this up here because I want to make sure that we're all speaking the same around what I mean by integration so I know this is something that everybody or most people are pretty familiar with um in how we integrated our ethnic studies graduation requirement and um with multiple content areas so um if you're not familiar with it just so you know um we do have um courses because ethnic studies is is actually
220considered you know the loose term it's a checkbox um versus credits uh to graduate from high school so because of that we are able to integrate that into some of our English courses and actually have designated ethnic literature and study courses um and then we also were able to do the same in history so we have dedicated like world history ethnic studies US History ethnic studies um we have a foundation of ethnic studies which is a one semester course and then we also have our art one ethnic studies so it's helping kids satisfy those two things for graduation um without them having to figure out a way to make that all fit so um I'd like us to just keep in mind when I'm talking about integration this is this is where my brain is
221going when we're talking about that particular word um I also want to call out when we're looking at this that just because we did this integration with ethnic studies does not mean that we don't continue to have traditional English classes we don't we still have traditional world history and US History we still have our traditional art classes right so those cour opportunities for students don't go away but we offer these for students who want to be able to go down this road with their learning so with that um I want to also call out because again I know this this was a big or this has been a big uh discussion point so that's why I'm focusing in on this piece so all of our content areas have what's called a framework it's um California
222it's they're all on our CDE websites if you really want to dig into a bunch of um educational jargon um but they our vapa framework does actually call out three specific ways of do to do integration across content areas that does not mean that we would go and in do vapa integration with all of our class CL and then we wouldn't continue to still have Standalone vapa courses right so I want to make sure I'm I'm calling that piece out because I don't want the misunderstanding to be that if we um uh that if we go down the road of collapsing director positions that therefore we're just integrating all instruction and everything else is going away that's that's not helpful for our students so um these are just different models of that um you heard
223me earlier talk about um uh Heyward unified and how they're looking at their programs and they're looking at their feeder patterns so again I'm sticking with the Vapes because I know there was a lot of questions around that so this is an example of where I think we as pvusd could Tech could move towards something like this now would it have these exact courses no because we would need to look at what is a community asking for at each of the sites right so we do have that whole thing about the feeder schools you know Elementary to Middle to high so we would need to start looking at our um high schools we need to build out the programs there make them more robust and then we're also at the same time we're kind of
224aligning it with what's going on at the middle schools and what courses are offering there to better support students as they're going into the High School vapa courses and then again looking at elementary what is it that we're offering in elementary that standards again this well he left but this goes back to the whole piece about the standards right where we have to look at those pieces and how are those standards building through elementary middle and high so that our students are getting a comprehensive um vapa program through TK through2 um and again this is just one content area out of all of them but again this is these are things that we need to be thinking about right um they have a great example of a master plan that I think would something that
225would be one of the examples I would love to be able to put in front of a a vapa committee that I was mentioning earlier um so that we can get really down into the nitty-gritty of where we want to go as a district to do this though it can't just be um one person working on it in curriculum and instruction it has to be a team of people to do that so this is our current structure um you'll see uh that executive director expanded learning that's Jen Bruno um all of the green ones are directors and coordinators and then the yellows are the coaches now the science Coach position um the coach decided earlier on in the school year that she was going to go back into the classroom so that position closed um
226but the other ones are still currently filled at this time um when we think about the impact that this type of structure has on our sites when we're working with principles and this is feedback that I've gotten from many principles and our assistant principles and our AC's there's five people knocking on their door each with their own plan so they're having to keep up and then how that trickles down to the classroom principles and um APS and AC's are being pulled in five different directions which then they have to then put that pressure on teachers from five different directions right so it it's not the smoothest most efficient setup that we have um in making the decisions on how to do this restructure I was also looking at districts who have um the similar number
227of students that we have also similar populations to us and how do they structure their cipd divisions and there's very few that have multiple content area people most of them are actually combined like for example our director of literacy and social studies he has two different content areas and that even doesn't do it justice because he's also ethnic studies and Avid and he has quite a few things under there that's just kind of like the nice neat umbrella for him um but his position is more representative of what you see in districts with our population I mean our our size and population so what I'm proposing to do is to go this route so what you'll see here is we still have our there still the director and I just called out all the other
228things because I know there's questions sometimes of like who oversees ethnic studies right so I want to make sure that that got called out but then we would also have a steam director um underneath the director for literacy Etc there's a coordinator for early literacy um and then under the steam director would be the vapa coordinator because the a in Steam is Arts right um our instructional coaches I've already actually started to work with them on we need to be kind of the Jack of all traits right when we're because again when when we're thinking about our impact and I'll go back to this oops no let me go back when we think about our impact on the schools look at how many different coaches in different content areas could potentially come at a multiple
229subject teacher right no nobody has time to work with two to three different coaches when they're probably already working on pretty much the same things right help me in my classroom help me with my lessons so when we look at this version of it this is where we're actually building out the capacity of our coaches to be able to support teachers so there's that one contact point when they want to work with a coach um in that yellow box you'll see a line that does say site based because we do have eight positions that are literacy Grant funded those are actually assigned to specific sites um those are Grant funded positions not General funds and that Grant um our first round of schools actually expires in uh fall no spring 2027 and then the following
230year the rest of the other four schools that money goes away in 2028 and the folks that are in those positions do know that it's it's a limited it's a grant funded positions so when the grant goes away the positions go away um when look at how we would use our coaches differently this is where we're talking about um again our uh you'll see under K through five there's three of them there those folks would actually be assigned to designated schools so it's not like multiple people coming into a site and then it's confusing as to who do I ask for help um same thing with our instructional coaches in the 6th through 12th range we would be actually assigning them particular sites so they would be based at those sites not not here at
231the district office but based at those sites so they can be in direct contact and accessibility for our teachers to support them um yeah so with the one of the difference so the differences that you'll oops getting these confused so the differences that you'll see here is the collapsing of the director of math and director of Science and then if you were to add these up it is a reduction of two which goes earlier to your question trusty Turley about like would we reduce and again when we're looking at number of coaches based on number of teachers if we're reducing teachers we have to reduce the coaches yeah okay um and then I I put this in here because I wanted to kind of show like the director coordinator and instructional coaches piece on how
232that would work um again with feedback from our some of our site administrators um the director would be the point person for the principal and the Coordinator would be working primarily with the AC's to help build out particular programs okay thank you Q&A so now I'll bring back to the board trusty Flynn um I don't want to get too off subject here but I want to the the restructure and going back to what trustee kadco was saying about the inclusion of um uh the vapa coordinator um is is that in alignment of what it what cuz we're not voting on that right now but is that in alignment with what it is you are asking for that position and is this is the director the steam director and the vapa coordinator are those prop 28
233funded no we cannot fund um administrative positions with prop 28 we can fund teachers okay but we cannot fund administrators so those would be General funds okay and they wouldn't be put together and what happened to gate so gate okay great question love it all right so um yes there are rules and regulations around gate um one of the things that I have spoken with our division around is that gate isn't necessarily a standalone right there are best practices on how we support our gate students which all of them need to be responsible for currently in their content areas um there are laws around when we do assessments like for example right now um this week Stephanie's meeting with um the AC's at the elementary sites to talk about the coat test that's coming up
234to do those assessment pieces so there is that management the the law part of it um so to speak around that and that would actually fall on me so the implementation and the academic support for our gate students that happens in this setting here when we're all having our division meetings and we're doing our planning and and how we're supporting all of our students the identification process would land with me because the coat testing would fall with me the none of these folks don't actually administer the test um um yeah we actually have it set up we all students it's not we don't pick and choose which kids do we we assess the whole grade level yeah no wait I'm say the question again yeah I was just wondering about combination um just think about
235ways to you know cost be cost effective and um yeah because right now vapa gate is together so I didn't know if those two could be collapsed into one which Ste in the vapa that's what was proposed before that's what was proposed and we changed it okay yeah yeah and we're not voting on that now these are just questions so um but thank you I understand the other people pie is collapsing the um the math and the I think it's the social studies no it's um it's actually uh well the difference between this one and that one is specifically the director of math and science that's what I mean yeah thank you thank you so earlier you were showing um how ethnic studies has taken some core subjects and we've kind of kind of like
236what trusty kadco was talking about earlier if we take some core subjects but Implement add a little art um is that a direction we are going to try to go and I'm not talking proposition at all right now I'm just saying you know to my you know wcsa is where my children have gone and that's what they do in all their subjects art is implemented they do a great job at it um and I would love to see that done you know more across because it it does Engage The Children more when even their math lesson involves art so is that something that this new yes so when you if you were to go through the the um vapa framework on the on the CDE website chapter eight of that actually specifically calls out ways
237to integrate so those those three models were ways to do that um so yeah we we do need to look at ways to integrate that that would not just have the Standalone that's great and then when we're talking integration I mean I just called out the vapa piece but you know we also need to think about how is math and science being integrated together in the classroom right if we keep things siloed the way that they are right now are our kids are not getting the real opportunities they need for application of their learning and that's the big shift that we need to be able to make great thank you so much trusted and trusty trle I had a thought when you mentioned the integration um I have a German daughter she was an exchange
238student and they do math much differently than we do we do algebra and geometry they do it all at the same time so your your first year you're doing all of those things but simpler you know beginning blocks and it just keeps growing and it seems to um have really good results yes and our math standards do build um and that's that's actually been one of those great things about having the standards in all of these content areas because it does line out what the skills are that kids need to be able to build uh Trustin Naro Claudia um just a couple of questions specifically at the elementary level one of the things that I really loved about with my children's education is when they were younger they were in monor and the thing I
239love about monory is a lot of Hands-On you know manipulation and I think that that's why both of my kids even though they have learning differences um are strong in math is because of those materials because it really takes this abstract con concept and puts it into a concrete way do you know if there's any kind of work going in that direction so a few years ago we had some schools actually move towards uh Project based learning um at the time it was something that was really hard to sustain because of the structures that we have right now and because of well there was a lot of factors one is because of the structures and I'm going to go back to the fact that we are very siloed right now with how we do curriculum
240and so it's it's hard at that point when you're a site who's trying to launch it and I'll speak for hall because I was the principal out there we really tried to do that we were three years in um and I know a lot of the teachers continue to do some of the units that they built back when I was there um but again when you're not getting the the integrated support that you need those things can get very difficult so um just to give you another example um I have uh spoken with some of like in um earlier this year I was working with some of our folks our teachers at the high school level who have been talking about wanting to do um move away from like traditional assessment like I'm not just
241going to give you a test or make you write an essay um but more about let's look at portfolios right how do we build out rubrics to show you as a student what is the success criteria that we need to have you meet based on the standards so looking at portfolios and even courses that build upon themselves um if if a student is going to be taking well I'm going to take this series of courses I'm G to build out um in this one pathway then by the end of taking like two or three of those what could my portfolio look like yeah I just think having specifically with math which is something I feel strongly about um and with the number of you know ESL students that we have in the district having something
242concrete to look at while they're trying to learn the language I think would really boost a lot of our scores um just to add on to that since you're asking more about elementary so we do have two sites that actually started using um what's called Swan math um we gave them the op the we had talked to their administrators about asking them if they would like to try this other um way of teaching math and So currently it's Bridges if you've been in the sites you might have seen the walls and the whole thing anyways it's a it's a pretty complex um curriculum to use might not I did not adopt that um anyways so that's that's there in the classrooms um so if you have time to talk with the teachers at Hyde talk
243with the teachers at McQuitty um they have been using it and I have not heard anything negative about that um I know one of our administrators was like I don't know you know it's a new thing that type of thing and she was shocked at how quickly her teachers were like we love this um I was actually who was I talking to earlier Linda last week um I one of them was saying that uh one of their their students after like because they've been using this um when since we came back from um winter break and one of the kids said the first day that she was using the first or second day she was like oh my gosh I love math now so those are the type of things that we want to make
244sure that we're looking at one of the advantages to using Swan is it does have a lot of the skills in it that do translate so that's where again when we're looking at those Integrations pieces and the last thing I just wanted to ask real quick is is there a reason that we're using Chromebooks in elementary education it's not the pandemic anymore kids are spend way to good question um so love that question uh yes so if you if my early literacy coordinator were here she would be clapping her hands wholeheartedly at that question um so again when we're looking at elementary and how we're using our IAS in K1 and how we're using our intervention teach um then and how we're doing um spec I'll just talk about literacy instruction because that's predominantly where
245you see it in elementary is during literacy instruction um we want to start moving away from having that be part of the three-part rotation um we've been run running regular usage reports um and kids are not using Lexia at the rate that they were four years ago um um and the Le you know the more the less they use it obviously the less impact it's going to have so um when we're talking about things for next year um usage reports is one of those things that I've been really looking at in terms of our technology programs at all three of the grade spans elementary middle and high um and if we don't have the high usage we need to really reconsider whether or not we're going to continue to pay for it well I actually
246love having the Chromebooks for the students at home yes I just don't think they should be youth in school that's exactly that's and for literacy especially we don't we don't need that there we need them working directly with adults yeah because you have you have you can leverage technology and meet students where they are like teaching them in their native language until they are you know proficient in English in both reading and in in math or like practicing at home and that's what I think we should I know I'm totally going on talking I'm sorry it's okay but I I think we should be leveraging technology at home as a supplement but not to supplant to use that word again actual instruction correct and as Daniel mentioned earlier one of the things we're going to
247be looking at with the student advisory committee is homework because there's the laws that have come out that we need to have a homework policy so that will be one of the considerations when we're talking with the kids yeah thank you trusty Medina yeah I kind of want to go off that because um we agree on that I like computers though at home uh but unfortunately not every everybody has the access that they need to get that so um we also need to consider that also um when we are thinking about technology I do like technology that is used in the classroom for example if we have a MCO student who is coming in has absolutely no idea what they are reading at I think the last thing we want to do is not place
248a device on there that could translate what they need to know so I think in that way we could use technology yes that's not what I'm saying but just not not the Plug and Play tell you that my kids use their Chromebook to play Cool Math Games yeah oh yeah and that's great I think that's great also I think they um um and and going off that I wanted to understand a little bit more about the media literacy that we're going to be implementing within elementary middle and high school students there's this big thing going around about do you guys want to talk about wasting money those little slip things that students are putting their phones in $20 a pop too much money it's it's it's not going to work uh it that it's like
249a slide they put their phones in yeah what's the answer because I hear from lots of teachers that's a problem it is a problem and also we've learned how to hack them you know that's what they do at the that's what they do at the theater like when you go to Broadway they like put your phone in a pouch and you can't use it till the end of the day oh yeah oh that's the theater that that was a whole another thing we could talk about the theater and how classic it is but um I wanted to know more or less um within media literacy because I do agree that when we cuz right now we're at this point where students are having their phone comes out and it's completely distracting um you know especially
250for the teachers but the Band-Aid solution isn't to just remove it completely we need to start training them in elementary school when they enter a classroom they should be putting their cell phones in their backpack if they have one right also we need to understand too that cell phones are a connection to the family um and I would hate I know I uh had the Frog phone with the little four inputs I don't know if anybody remembers that yeah my son had that mhm actually two my daughters and my son y'all put us through a lot just letting you know we got so made fun still get mad at me about that I actually about clean out and they were like oh my God you still have that thing it was so embarrassing I couldn't
251see anything it was like it looks like a big giant yeah yeah yeah it it looks like a frog um but I think if we start um putting that into the elementary school curriculum where we are telling them hey this is the right time to use your cell phone right that way by the time that they get to middle school they have that already in mind and then by the time they go to high school we won't have to take their phones away so I think looking at media literacy how we're teaching people and also just an integration of media literacy right now we are at a time where there is so much information being put at us not verifying sources not verifying um where that particular item is coming from I think that's also
252a skill that our students need because if they're going to be on their mobile Dev or you know looking at information citing it utilizing it they need to learn how how to accurately evaluate that information so I'm curious how we're integrating that within the Arts if any um within the Arts I'm not exactly sure yet okay however I can give you an example and I'll go back to Hall um so the fourth grade team out there I'll call out one teacher in particular Alice Miller um so if you go to her you can hey Alice anyways um one of the things that the fourth grade team has done out there for years just to kind of speak to that like how do you to look at what's on the web and figure out what's real
253and what's not um and my um three of my kids actually went through Hall um and they all still remember having Alice as a teacher and um one of the particular lessons is around that um have you seen the the tree octopus yes you said okay so she she uses that as a way to launch like the grade level will use that as a way to launch like because it's very very convincing when you log on to that website it it looks real yeah like the picture everything so it's one so they do have those discussions starting around that age of like when you are doing your research because that's third fourth grade is around the time that they really start doing research for their projects and so that is what of the things that
254they do before they turn the kids loose on the websites of how do you tell what is a valid website and what's not so that you can verify information awesome and then another thing too is just teaching students how to navigate the media space just like we tell us at a very young age don't go cars with strangers don't approve random people that you don't know you know so I'm curious if that is something that the district is also looking into to kind of teach that at a very young age especially we actually already have that um so our tech department has actually they've been they built those out quite a while ago and um even when I was a teacher they were there um they do update those and their lessons that are there
255for all the way from kinder up through pretty much all the way through High School basically they're available on the website teachers have access to them so that they can use those with the students okay awesome yeah and if you need any assistance with media literacy that is my background especially propaganda so I know when people are lying to me because of their facial expressions just throwing that out there all right um and um yeah so um and I'm also a part of we are actually building out a video uh program at Cabrio College I'm spear hitting that right now and I would love for us to be able to integrate or even get that dually enrolled as well for students to go into the advanced course um because a lot of students too are
256coming in with video skills because of social media and all these things and being able to turn that into something where they could create a job out of um I think that's what we need to start looking at great yeah and I saw the uh projection for 2030 of what jobs are going to be 100% what people want and the first thing they want is creative thinkers yep so if we're able to match up our Arts with that which Daniel I'm going to put you on the spot we talked about learner qualities today what was one of them uh so yeah there was a whole list that was actually presented in front of us and we as a group um took all those words and broke into little small groups and um Claudia helped us
257kind of compare what the adult thought of what words apply to our education and then what students thought from our perspective and we were kind of discussing what words we wanted to change I think one of them was active Citizen and we wanted to change that to Advocate um so it's just that's an example and we wanted to really exemplify what it means as students to come to our district and be a part of it because it's something so special but um yeah and then I just creative thinker was on there yeah creative thinker creative thinker was on there yeah and yeah there there is a lot Problem Solver collaboration yeah there is a lot um and then I just wanted to add to one of the um I know trusty Medina mentioned the cell
258phone patch is one of the I've seen some teachers doing is they've been using it to take attendance so that that's been a common practice at um some school sites that I've heard from and I also just wanted to say thank you Claudia for the ethnic study slide because during my Soph I believe we only had um the history ethnic study classes and then ethnic literature but now we've expanded to honors ethnic literature one I mean honors eth ethnic literature two and then three as well and then the foundations of ethnic studies so yeah I think as a as a district we've been making um tremendous strides in this and yeah I just want to say thank you for that you're welcome that is super Forward Thinking digital citizen because I mean that already attaches
259status to it right away so I really like that that's good I think we should be listening to y'all a little bit more to be quite Frank yeah no yeah we we've been doing amazing work on I just wanted to thank Dr contur because she's the one that kind of formed these committees so she's been um allowing me to kind of meet with these students I also want to say thank you to Mr Burman because he's also been um helping me lead the inner High committee and that's how I give all my reports to the board um so yeah that's yeah Daniel thank you when do you have time to go to school yeah I mean even during the last meeting when it ended at 1:30 I was up at 6:30 in the morning um
260and then I'm still balancing eight classes this semester but I mean yeah I make the time um and yeah I I've this has been like the most filling year of my life in this District so um yeah it's been amazing experience and I love learning thank you to everyone who comes out and especially our cabinet because all the information that you guys provide to me is so informative and I feel like I'm learning so much especially with a great um panel of people so yeah thank you I just wanted to say thank you to you Daniel I so enjoy getting to sit next to you every week um and I just think you're a remarkable young man I can't wait to see what you do um I wanted to thank Claudia and Dr contras I
261love the new ideas that you're bringing into the district I can tell you part of the reason my kids are not excited to go to school is they are bored at school like they're not engaged and these are you know technology is changing and unfortunately I think public education is a little lagging behind and so I love the innovative ideas that you all are bringing into the district once again Jenny thank you for everything that you do I hope you know how hard I know you're working um and lastly I just want to say you know we all bring a different skill set to this board which is why I think it's really important that we listen to each other's ideas respectfully because you have some great ideas and you're an artist I'm a science
262person I also have good ideas you know and you know a philosopher as well Jessica's an artist and you know Carol my goodness that presentation that you put on that was that was amazing I that was that was great it was really nice to put into V joy joy you know you and I have cross path multiple you I know you have great ideas and good thoughts and Olivia I've been enjoying getting to know you as well so you know I I do think that we in order to have a functioning School District we need to have a functioning board and we need to work together with our superintendent to make sure that we bring this District to the next level thank thank you yeah also I just want to say this too when we
263schedule meetings at like 5:30 on Tuesday for me personally like I had to step out and go take my medication which is why I'm a little bit more calm now right cuz I am on a schedule um so if we could take those things into account as well moving forward or else I will be lashing out at at the Gemini um just kidding so um yeah that's why I had to step out I told Joe I was going to go take my medication because I I was already feeling it wearing off so um yes so if we could do that or give a little bit more of a heads up um that way I could prepare CU I would have to change up my schedule a little bit in order to accommodate my mood um
264yes thank you trusty Flynn okay so I will entertain a motion I think this is 24223 I move to approve resolution 24 23 thank you do I have a second I'll second thank you I have a first and a second Eva can I have our last roll call please thank you trusty carasco your vote Yes trusty Turley your vote Yes trusty Medina your vote no trusty Flyn your vote Yes trusty Navar your vote yes president fores your vote Yes and that motion carries 511 and actually before I adjourn um I will just bring ask our trustees uh one more time is are there any resolutions that anyone wants to reconsider bringing back see bringing back something that we previously voted on already a descending vote C oh today mhm I appreciate you asking um I
265think just the main thing that I wanted to say and I didn't before is that um one of the things I kept hearing a lot was that we need to support our superintendent and um I I feel like saying you know saying yes or saying no is is not a reflection of that I'm I'm never going to take something that um I I want to support our superintendent but if I vote no towards something that is presented to me that's not me not supporting you um and so I just want to make that clear I'm I'm never going to just take the recommendation without doing uh more research and that's again why we're here again uh so I just needed to make that clear and joy I just hope you know like I I this
266is why Heather and I are on the phone almost every single day because you know I also I'm not going to just blindly give support when we go back and forth and negotiate and so I'm not sure how much you talk and I know you're busy and you have a job and I busy and I have job to anybody as much as I would like to yeah but but honestly like those that's where a lot of this stuff happens is with the one-on ones to get the information I feel like one of the strengths of this board is that we all do some homework we don't just come in here not having read anything and just you know throw a dart at the wall I feel like I feel like all of us are doing
267work you doing work I hope so okay um I want to second that as well I know that at the last meeting it was said that if we didn't vote away it would is disrespecting cabinet and the superintendent and I just want to say I don't I respect you right I'm voting that way because of the reasons I've said earlier not because I don't respect all of you you know um so I just want to say that because I felt like I was being talked for and that's not true um I deeply do respect you and I know this is hard um and I'm going to challenge you a little bit not because I'm not respecting you but because I want want a little more equal and that's it but thank you thank you for
268that I appreciate those words cuz yeah all right well thank you with that oh yes I I am just going to make one last comment because I I need to um I am really concerned because one resolution that did not pass or the positions that were added with onetime dollars so we are choosing to keep those positions that were added with onetime dollars for another year and so those those positions will will carry forward and and they were that's $5 million worth of positions that will continue for next year and I do want the board to understand that those positions will have to be Revisited again next year but it will be not just those positions because those those weren't just the only positions added with with onetime funding and so I just want to
269make sure that we understand that that the sustainable budget team did not approach all the positions that were added they approached the first step of positions that were added with one F onetime funding and I just want to make sure that that is clear and that we understand that that was the one that um truste Medina wanted to table correct correct it it was the one that was actually passed on January 15th by the board and and the one that was recommended and then had modifications by the board U from the sustainable budget team that that's the one I'm referring to those were all one-time positions those were positions approved by the board already and that resolution didn't pass and what I just want to make sure and that's fine I just want to help
270everyone understand that those are those were one-time funded positions we we no longer have those dollars they will have to come back and be discussed next year but those were there's more that was we didn't take all the positions if you remember in the discussions those were just some of the positions because we were trying to make take a measured approach so that it wasn't a big um you know shock to the system and so next year I just want everyone to understand and be very clear that there will be more positions that we are going to have to discuss and unfortunately it's just you know when you take onetime funding and add positions and then those dollars go away that is just what it is and the way we're funded by California is just
271the way we're funded and I know Gabe were're I'm you know you you and I talk you know my I told you I will throw myself in front of a US Post Office 10 times 10 times I think we said nine times I think I said nine so hopefully I don't break anything if anybody knows knocked out that's where we're getting the reference from thank you yeah we have a lot of strategies that we are really trying to do to make ourselves very attractive and to bring in uh more enrollment those are going to take some it's going to take some time to develop but I just want to make sure that that we all have that understanding Heather can you help me understand why we voted on that when we already passed it in
272January um so what we did in January was the sustainable budget team made the recommendation of where they saw um the where we should take like categories of funding they would they didn't we didn't want to put on them actually taking positions and then with the board we just also was like to give us some categories some areas where you see we should begin reductions this is a resol solution it's a a legal requirement that actually says these are positions and so this is kind of that a second step because we were trying to build in that all that Community input and um transparency to the process we added in really an extra step for ourselves and really if you put in all the meetings that we held we added in like 20 extra steps
273for ourselves but that was our commitment to trying to build a community-based transparent process I I know it's been criticized and you know we live and we learn but that was our attempt I don't know another District that has done it like that usually what happens is a resolution comes forward and here it is so um so anyway I feel that's that's why that's is how it was done that way I feel like part of what I'm what I'm hearing correct me if I'm wrong is one of the reasons why it didn't pass is because it didn't seem balanced um that's what I got from the community and that's what I got from um uh truste kco is that there were um positions that were not on there that people would have liked to see
274on there is that correct trusty carasco am I am I saying that correctly okay um so I don't know if there's a a resolution to that part until next year and I don't think that that is enough for what people are asking for it will be not balanced next year it'll just be all the positions well no it's what I'm hearing is next year it will be balanced because we're taking what we have and then we're talking about next year the positions that were brought on with one-time funding will need to to all and you've heard Jenny say what our Outlook will be next year uh actually at the end of this year um next year all all the positions that were brought with one-time funding will need to be brought forward so there there
275will be no balance there I mean those will be the positions we can also look at you know others and but those will be the positions that we need to look at we can add in you know administrators and things from district office but those positions that still remain that were brought on on with one-time funding are in the many many millions of dollars I don't think that we have administrators in the district office that equate to many many millions of dollars okay is that it for the discussion okay I am going to adjourn this meeting at 9:57 thank you h