001All right, item 2.1, call the meeting to order. I will call the Perris Union High School District Board meeting to order at 3:03 p.m. I'm going to ask for a roll call to determine a quorum. Trustee Campos. >> Here. >> Trustee Hall. Thank you. >> Here. >> Trustee Stafford. >> Here. >> Trustee Anaya. >> Here. >> Trustee Garcia, here. We have established a quorum. Item 3.1, invitation to address the Board of Trustees on closed session items only. Are there any public comments? >> No public comments. >> All right. Uh Wait a second. Is there a motion to adjourn to closed session? >> So moved. >> Trustee Stafford. Who was the second? Trustee Campos, thank you. Any discussion? See none, please vote. Item 4.1 passes 5-0. We are adjourning to closed session at 3:00. All right,
002item 5.1, the regular Board meeting of the Perris Union High School District is reconvening at 5:20 p.m. Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. Place your right hand over your heart. Ready? Begin. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Trustee Hall. >> Yes. Good evening, everyone. Um this kind of goes goes inside with uh one of my uh trustees said it uh a couple meetings ago, but I just want to remember the uh for a moment of silence, you know, our students uh in our district that may be facing challenges, hardships, illness, or any lost families uh going through a rough time during this time, uh need support, uh
003our teachers, our staff, uh custodians, all the hard work that you guys put into this this year and prepping for next year. Uh, and also our our graduating class graduates. They're going from school to the world. And I remember when I did all that, I probably was about 25 when I looked and I got an oh my gosh, I'm an I'm an adult now. So, keep those in mind as well as our first responders. You know, we appreciate for everything that you guys do and your families that you know, when you leave those doors uh the the anxiety that they might have awaiting for you guys to come back. So, very well appreciate that. And with that, just uh you know, it's harder to it's easy to hate somebody or show meanness versus love and
004kindness. So, take the time out and and love someone more. Reach out to someone and just say, "Love you." Give them a Give them a hug. Again, I always say it, we're never promised tomorrow. So, take this time reflect and let's end this year and start next year off really well. Thank you very much. All right, let's get this shindig started. >> [clears throat] >> All right, item 7.1 recess. The board president will recess the meeting to conduct the regular board meeting of California Military Institute Charter School. We are recessing the meeting at 5:23 p.m. To conduct the regular board meeting of the California Military Institute. And then if we could transition over to the regular board meeting, please. Thank you all. You have a good night. We appreciate your support. You too. Thank you.
005Please join the meeting. >> Thank you. Are we all joined? Stafford, are we all ready to join? Okay, we're all in. Excellent. The regular board meeting of the Perris Union High School District is reconvened at 6:07 p.m. Item 8.1, revision adoption ordering of agenda to June 17th, 2026. Do I have a motion? >> So moved. >> Thank you, Trustee Hall. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Trustee Stafford. Any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. >> Hold on. I I think I'm in the wrong >> Uh-oh. >> Well, I I thought I was in vice president's 1.1. No, that's not good. >> Were you able to vote? >> Uh no. >> Okay. When you get the opportunity, please vote. Item Item 8.1 passes 5-0. Item 9.1, report out of closed session. >> [clears throat]
006>> Thank you, Trustee Garcia. In closed session, the board took action to appoint Mr. Michael Hayes as director of facilities, construction, and transportation with a start date to be determined by the following vote. Five yes, zero no. Jamie Ayala, yes. Steve Campbell, Edward Garcia, yes. Charles Hall, yes. And Anthony Stafford Sr., yes. In closed session, the board took action to appoint Ms. Erica Garcia as director of human services effective June June 18th, 2026 by the by the following vote. Yes, four. No, zero. And one abstention. Jamie Alaya, yes. Steve Campos, yes. Edward Garcia, yes. Charles Hall, yes. And Anthony Stafford abstained. Congratulations, Ms. Garcia. >> [applause] >> And Mr. Davis, congratulations. Mr. Davis, is that the way you want to say congratulations, Mr. Davis? >> [applause] >> Welcome to our district. Also, by vote of
007four to one, the board of trustees approved the notice of immediate suspension without pay, recommendation for dismissal from employment within the district, and statement of charges for employee 121355, a certificated employee. Four yes, one no. Jamie Alaya, yes. Steve Campos, yes. Edward Garcia, no. Charles Hall, yes. And Anthony Stafford, yes. That's all the report on our closed session. Mr. President Garcia. >> Thank you, Mr. Superintendent. I point 9.2, district update by the superintendent. >> [clears throat] >> Thank you, uh President Garcia. Paloma Valley High School engineering proudly represented the district at the C Spursh International Engineering Competition in Washington, D.C. Team Axolotl earned an outstanding eighth place finish out 82 qualifying international teams, placing them among among the top 10 teams in the world after competing against the best students engineering teams globally. This is
008at the international level. Wonderful achievement for our students at Paloma Valley High School. >> [applause] >> Paloma Valley High School also alumnus Carissa Turbo continues to make history in wrestling after winning the U-23 national championship. She represented team USA at the U-23 Pan American Championships in Lima, Peru where she captured a gold medal and helped team USA win the team title. Congratulations also to our alumni from Paloma Valley High School. >> [applause] >> And our students are not excelling, our alumni from Perris High School District only on the sports field, also in the academic field. So, I can share with you that in the academic achievement, Perris Junior High School District is preparing wonderful students. And a student alumni from Perris High School, valedictorian, graduated co-valedictorian, defended her dissertation on May 26th, obtaining the degree
009the doctoral degree in educational administration. Congratulations to Dr. Marie Alaux for achieving this accomplishment. Perris High School District. >> [applause] >> We have a success story. Here in our district, we have 1.43 million views and impressions of the wonderful things that are happening in our district. This has been a strong year advertising what you, >> [clears throat] >> our staff, are doing every single day for our students. 1.43 million plus combined views and impressions across Facebook, Instagram, and other social media. This represents over 1,300% increase. Wonderful news. Our community is getting to know the great accomplishments, the great things that are happening at Perris Union High School. Thank you to all of our staff for achieving this. And the last one, I was telling about Dr. Dotson. We are reducing the ADA gap. Now we
010are focusing on reducing the academic achievement gap. And we have three phases to achieve this. And how I said, this is a strategic intentional approach. Phase one was last year, 2024-2025 school year, when we focused on improving safety. And we had at different schools, Perris High School for example, 83.3% decrease in fights. At Paloma Valley, it was 60% increase. Laser focused strategic approach. Our students cannot learn and our staff cannot teach if they don't feel safe. >> [clears throat] >> We continued during the 2025-2026 school year at the file level, continued to focus on safety, but the strategic intentional approach was a little bit changed to attendance, ADA. And we are looking forward to that 93 93 plus on ADA. And this is going to transfer not only into a benefit on the financial perspective,
011but also on the academic achievement because we have a significant percent of students who are coming to school. They want to be in class. They have been in class. This is not only about recovering ABA. Students who were absent in the different three different ways that the state allowed for this year to recover attendance is not only based on that. Attendance during this phase two including different programs. We have the Cal Getty program. We were focusing also on the Inland Online Academy that you know the success story that is one is part of those 1.33 million views. And we started the Inland Online Academy with 50 students. By the end of last semester, we had close to a more than 100. And at the end of this year, we had 260 students. >> 266 students.
012So, Cal Getty, Inland Online, and the Mariachi program. Phase three is academic achievement. And at this time, we are focusing on the data. We need to get that data in order to order to analyze the magnitude of the issue that we have in our in our district. We are going to continue with safety. We are going to continue with attendance. We are going to continue with our wonderful programs, but now is going to be strategic approach on academic achievement. We are looking into the percentage in the the percent of students who are graduating, high school graduation rates. Eighth grade completion, percent of students in our dual enrollment program, percent of students taking AP classes, and the percent of students who are passing the AP classes with a three or better. This is going to translate
013into an analysis not only overall in those percentages, but this through what we call disaggregated. Disaggregated with the different demographic students that we have. Hispanic, African-American, Caucasian, Asian, special students with disabilities, foster youth, English learners. So, how is every subgroup performing? And then make a decision. And not only at this student level, side level, at the side level, that is disaggregated. So, we are going to be focusing on the academic achievement. This is phase three, but phase three has is going to be subdivided into parts. Part A is mathematics. So, this 26-27, we are already working on focusing, developing the program, supporting our teachers with different instructional strategies, with different methodologies, any kind of support that they need in order to support our [clears throat] students, because that's the ultimate goal for our students here
014I was mentioning. Our students to improve in mathematics. My recommendation for part B and part C would be go with science after math because they are very related, and then English and social science. So, that is the plan, Dr. Watson. And we are going to get there, yeah? In the same way, I'm confident. I believe in my staff, and most importantly, I believe in my students because they are capable. They are more than capable to reduce that gap. And we are going to see it, and we can talk about this in two or three years and how we are doing. So, thank you to all the staff in advance for your focus and your effort in this phase three that we are moving forward on Perris Unified School District. Thank you. >> [applause] >> Item
0159.3 PSA President Jason Miller. >> I'm in attendance. >> 9.4 CSEA President Cynthia Navarro. >> I'm in attendance. >> Thank you. 9.5 comments by the Board of Trustees. And we will start with Trustee Campos. >> Well, well, um just thank you to all the principals and and staff members and the directors of all Just thank your staff a lot to the board. Um but thank them next year when they return. Uh closing out a strong year and and hopefully uh they'll get rested and come back next year ready to roll. Uh a lot of different things are are going on and so hopefully um this will be a good summer to kind of recharge and take a look at all the new and exciting things that are kind of coming along. Um cuz once we
016hit the ground uh in September or August uh we don't have to run around then. So, just thank you guys for all your hard work and have a blessed summer and that's it. Thank you. Thank you. Trustee Hoff. >> Uh yeah, just what uh Mr. Brown was saying. You know, we thank you for all your hard work for getting up early, staying late, >> [clears throat] >> doing all Saturday stuff. Um appreciate all the uh you know, the hard work that we're putting into next year. Uh we got the uh construction coming in. I'm really excited to see that and just new programs. Uh and it's not possible without you guys thinking outside the box. So, we really appreciate everything that you guys do. So, thank you so much. Thank you. Trustee Stafford. >> Uh
017least graduations were hot. Damn Gina. What do you know? Except for the >> [clears throat] >> house at at Heritage. Nice and durable. Um I went to five of them and they all went well. You know, graduations always have their ups and downs. Little things that happen, but overall they they're really great graduations. Um it's a pleasure to be there. Thank you for having me. I look forward to the next year. And uh just want to wish the students that just left good luck to you and I don't know what to say but >> [clears throat] >> I've heard that a lot. And uh just thank you for being the people you are. >> Thank you, Trustee Saffold. Trustee Knight? >> Well, Mr. Saffold, I made six. >> So >> [laughter] >> I I thank
018you for hosting us in the graduations again. It was a pleasure to be there and I love the graduations. I love the turning of the tassels. It's it's a very beautiful sight to see. So I appreciate everyone's hard work and enjoy your Sunday. >> Thank you. I too want to say thank you for all your hard work. >> [clears throat] >> Uh This year was kind of different for me for the graduations. It was a was very emotional. And I'm not really an emotional person. There was a young lady I'm not going to say what school cuz now I know you're all going to be like, "Which one?" But uh out of the blue, she came up and gave me a hug. Like she was so excited. She hugged me. I'm like, "I'm a stranger
019to you and you're hugging me. Aren't you supposed to stay away from strangers?" But she was so in that hug, nothing existed except that hug. >> [cough] >> And then it just captured my heart and I was like, "This is why we do this." This is exactly why we're doing this because we believe in our future. We believe in these students. We believe in the community. But we definitely believe in you guys because you guys have given these kids the tools they need to succeed. So that's very uh inspirational for me and I appreciate you all for every single thing you're doing. And that goes even to the Board of Education. We're over here. We're uh being checks and balances. And because of the decisions we're all making, these kids get to thrive. And and
020that that's just amazing. Um the graduations, I think they went really well. You know, we heard about the 911 calls. We can't do anything about the sun. We love the sun. We need the sun. But, um I don't I don't know how [clears throat] we do the planning, but just food for thought. It doesn't mean it has to happen cuz I'm talking about it. It's just we should have every year assess what went wrong and what went really well. So, you know, I heard one of the things that people said, "Oh, well, we could have put the time later so it was cooler." Some people say we could have put the time sooner so we could get home sooner. Then I'm like, "Well, you win some, you lose some." Then you're talking about people that's
021got You guys are the experts. We trust you. Well, we of course we need your input and you guys will connect with the right people. Um what I did not get to say was I hope you all have an amazing summer and enjoy your families. Enjoy your time. I know we're still busy, but please get some relaxation in. You guys are amazing and we don't want you to get all exhausted when we come back in the new year, but you guys are amazing. Everybody, thank you. And then we are going to move on. Item 10.01, invitation to address the Board of Trustees on non-agenda items. Are there any public comments on non-agenda items? >> Yes, we have one. >> Okay, thank you. Individual speakers shall be allowed 3 minutes to address the board on each
022agenda or non-agenda item. The board shall limit the total time for public input on each item to 20 minutes with the board consent. The president may increase or decrease the time allowed for public presentation depending on the topic and the number of persons wishing to be heard. In addition, the president may take a poll of speakers for or against a particular issue and may ask that the additional person speak only if they have something new to add. Now, Ms. Steinmetz, you've heard my spiel. Same rules apply. >> No problem there. >> Thank you. >> Good evening, President Garcia, members of the board, Superintendent Dr. Ralph, and cabinet members. My name is Helen Steinmetz. Over the years, I have come before this board many times as the president of CSEA. Tonight, however, I stand before you
023simply as a fellow to express my sincere gratitude to the many people who have helped shape my journey and create countless wonderful memories during my almost 20 years with the Perris Union High School District. As I begin a new chapter in my life, I want to take a moment to reflect on all that is good about PUHSD and acknowledge the positive impact this district has had on me, my colleagues, and most importantly, the students we serve. Looking back on the past 20 years, I am both humbled and proud of the relationships I have built with administrators, board members, colleagues, and friends. Many of those relationships are represented in this room tonight. Before I begin this next chapter, I want to thank each of you for the role you have played in my personal and professional
024growth and for making this journey so meaningful. I have been blessed to raise five wonderful children, all of whom graduated from Paloma Valley High School, and have gone on to successful careers in public service, education, and the military. They have also blessed me with six beautiful grandchildren and one of the greatest joys of my retirement will be having more time to spend with them. Perris Union High School District will always be a special place in my heart. This district has been more than a workplace. It has been a second home filled with purpose, challenges, achievements, and friendships that I will cherish forever. If I may leave you with one final thought, stay true to yourselves, support and value all employees, both certificated and classified, and always make decisions guided by what is in the best
025interest for our students. They are our future and the choices we make today will shape the legacy of this district for generations to come. Thank you for the opportunities, the experiences, and the friendships that have enriched my life. Serving this district has been one of the greatest privileges of my career. And I leave with a heart full of gratitude and wonderful memories. God bless YOU THANK YOU. >> [applause] >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM 11.1 building and grounds public hearing regards adoption of resolution number 3525-26 of the governing board of the Perris Union High School District approving a change in level one statutory school facility fees imposed on residential and commercial industrial construction pursuant to education code section 17620 and government code section 65995. [snorts] Do we have a motion? >> So moved. >> Thank
026you Trustee Hall. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you Trustee Anaya. Any discussion or wait the public hearing to receive comments regarding the adoption of resolution number 3525-26 approving a change in level one statutory school facility fees imposed on residential and commercial industrial construction pursuant to education code section 17620 and government code section 65995 is now open at 6:28 p.m. I would like to invite Mr. Doug Floyd of Copple and Gruber. Gruber, is that right? >> Yes. >> Gruber public finance to provide a brief overview of the Perris Union High School District 2026 school fee justification study. Are there any public comments? >> I I don't know if there's public comments, but I'm here to introduce the the discussion. Good evening board president Garcia, board members, Dr. Cabinet. I'm here with Javier Anguiano.
027He's with my firm as well. And so we've been a developer fee consultant with the district for a while now. Um First, I I want to say that this I think ties in well with the the special board workshop that you heard earlier regarding facilities. Developer fees are one of the pillars of funding for school facilities in the state of California. So my goal for the presentation is one to introduce what's being recommended, why it's being presented to the board at this time, and some of the key findings in our report that we prepared to justify the Let's do Uh what's being recommended tonight is to adjust the developer fees which are charged on new residential and commercial construction. The district's [snorts] somewhat unique and there's two sets of rates and that is based on
028the location in the district and the different grade levels that the Paris Elementary School District, that's what PESD stands for, and then other areas in the district where the school the elementary schools serve TK through 8 and the the high school districts serve high school facilities in those areas. So two sets of rates, but they are proposed for an increase. If adopted tonight, the the fees would go into effect 60 days later. That's a statutory requirement that you have to wait 60 days for this to go into effect. [snorts] So, just briefly, developer fees are charged on a one-time basis as a condition for new development projects. So, if I was a developer building new housing, [snorts] um I would have to come to the district to pay these fees in order to get a
029permit for new construction. Um paid on a one-time basis, it's not something that goes on a property tax bill. It's just a one-time charge. Uh those fees in turn can be used for the construction, reconstruction, um and modernization of school facilities. That also includes uh interim housing, um and it also includes central and [snorts] admin support facilities. So, it's not just classroom construction or or modernization. And I also want to point out that um you know, part of the the presentation you heard earlier was about the state facility program and requiring a local match to access um state funds, developer fees count as a match, a local match to those uh state facilities funding. grants. >> [snorts] >> Go through. Uh these fees are capped. Um so, there's a ceiling that the state imposes on
030how much you can charge and developer fees as far as level one fees. And the fee caps are adjusted and every other year in even number years to account for cost inflation. And the state last adjusted the fees earlier this year uh by about 4%. Um they quote them in rates for unified school districts. So, if you look at the slide, it's $5.38 and $0.88. That's it for a unified school district. As a union school district sharing territory with elementary districts, we actually [clears throat] have to enter in B splits so that the combination of the level one fees between both of the school districts don't exceed um the allowable amount by the state. Now, this isn't automatic. You If the state adjusts the fees, the districts can't just automatically adjust the fees. You have
031to go through this legal process, and you have to have a fee justification study in place that supports [snorts] those those fee increases. And that's something that my firm helped with the district prepare. The report itself has been available for public review for the requisite 10 days. So, it has been a a public document. And what the study requires, there are certain requirements per the statutes. And really it's the there's an identify the purpose and use of the fee, and then you're also must determine certain relationships between the fee and the development. We call these um the release reasonable relationship test. Um which what those require is a little bit more easy to understand is a projection of new development in the district. You have to estimate the number of students that would be generated
032from those additional housing units, and then determine what the cost impact to the district is of providing facilities for those students. And that's the cost impact. If the cost impact is equal to or greater than the ceiling that the state imposes, then your fees are considered justified. And so, the study that we prepared supports um that the district can charge up to the the full maximum fees allowed by the state. The next slides go into the details um of our findings in the study. So, the first is to project new housing in the district. There's a lot of new housing that's proposed. We compile information from the cities, the county planning departments, and then we kind of we look at categories. So, if you look at the slide, we have it by area. So, we
033have it in the Paris elementary area and then all other areas. There's [snorts] single family detached units, so that's your typical single family home. And there's also multi-family units. You can think of those as your high-density apartments, condos, and town homes. And there's over 20,000 units planned in the district outside of the community facilities district. So, these would be units that would be subject to developer fees. Anything that's in a CFD pays a separate type of mitigation. And there's approximately 6,000 units that are planned within the CFD. So, in total, we're looking at 26,000 units planned within the district or in the development pipeline. So, that's That's a lot of new development could be expected in the district. And on the right hand of the slide, you just These are sampling of projects, larger projects,
034so you can look through that. We broke it down by the the different cities and unincorporated county, but that is not a a comprehensive list of the larger projects. We just wanted to show some examples there. >> I just want to make sure I heard you right. It's a one-time fee. >> Yes, that's correct. >> Thank you. >> So, this leads us to the the second step, which is to estimate the number of students from the housing projects. And we look at the average number of students per household. So, those are number of students generated from each home. You see the rates on the top. That can be interpreted as for every 100 homes that are built, it would generate 21 new SFD 21 students from SED units and 11 students from your higher density
035type projects. And in total, that translates to just over 2,800 new students projected from those housing units. The next part is to determine the cost impacts for providing facilities. We tied our cost from the 2023 facilities master plan. We understand that the district is reviewing updated information [snorts] regarding projects that are needed. Also wanted to point out that the focus is on what developer fees can can fund, which is again new construction of facilities, modernization, interim housing, and district and support facilities. It cannot pay for deferred maintenance items, your [clears throat] age back, your painting, your roof replacement, developer fees cannot pay for those types of items. And so what we do is we take those the cost of providing those facilities and we attribute it to the 2,000 students that are projected from new
036housing. And you can see the totals there. There's 23 million in the PSD PSD area and about 72 million in other areas of the district. We distill that down just by dividing the number of projected housing units average per footage is to get a cost impact per square foot. And the cost impacts are higher than the maximum fees that are allowed by the state and therefore we consider that as a justified fee. For commercial, the impacts are indirect. So that's why when you look at the rates, they're much lower than the residential fees. And really the the the logic behind that is new commercial industrial development um generates employees. Employees create a need for new housing. Um and then we net out what housing would pay to the district and there's a a net impact
037to that. Um we also consider inter-district students. So those are students coming from outside of the district boundaries um to enroll in school district schools. And that's partly related to um employment opportunities that exist within the school district boundaries. So with that, we have a list of con- cost impacts. Um these are different categories that the state recommends that we address. Uh and so you can see every one of those categories is justified at the full amount except for rental self-storage, which is always very difficult to justify the full amount. Um the reason why is if you go to a rental self-storage uh facility, you usually have one, maybe two employees for a lot of square footage. And so that um makes the cost impact on a per square foot uh basis very low. This
038shows the historical uh level one fees adopted uh by the district. So on the far left is the year that the state adjusted the fees. And then on the far right um when the board adopted those fees. So it's pretty consistent of um adopting the fees after the state allocation board uh takes action on the fee increases. And then this shows the historical fee collections um starting from 2015-16 going forward. Uh there's a lot of fluctuation only because the the timing that the fees get paid on a one-time basis. So it's whenever those development projects are looking to issue permits. So, even though the rates have increased, there's a lot of variability based on just development and when those come online. Um the average The curious the 10-year average is about 2.7 million collected each
039year in developer fees. And I thought I'd just throw it here. I don't like making projections of developer fees going forward because we don't necessarily have a crystal ball and know exactly when projects will come online, but I wanted to point out that on a per unit basis, just would translate to $130 more per unit in in paying these fees. >> One-time fees, correct. Uh this this is probably too small, but this shows the fees that are collected across Riverside County. Um and there's a there's a point that I I need to make because you'll see that the Perris Elementary and Perris Union High School combination is at $8.10, which is higher than the 538. That's because certain school districts can qualify for the next level up, which is level two fees, and those are
040higher than the baseline level one. So, you have um Perris Elementary and Nuview Union have both adopted level two fees that are in excess of their level one fees. So, right now the the high school district does that 207. Um and the Perris Elementary, I think their fee share um is maybe around $3. Almost $4. So, they're they're collecting a little bit higher than Um and so this shows this was as of June 8th. I know of a couple uh districts that are at the $5.17 that I since adopted the the newest fee, which is the 538 for their districts. And that brings us to just tonight's meeting. So, again, if adopted, this resolution is adopted, then the the fees will go into effect August 17th, [clears throat] which is the 60-day requisite period. Now,
041I went over a lot. >> So, you talked about commercial, and then you talked about residential. >> Mhm. >> What's the impact on the residential? I think I might miss it. >> Um the the impact is $130 more for a residential unit. >> On top of commercial. So, the So, this is one vote that covers both areas. They don't separate. They're not separated? So, we can't vote on one and then the other separate? >> Um you could make that as part of the board action is to amend or or take note of a resolution that you want to increase residential but keep commercial the same. That's certainly an action that you can take, but you'd have to make that in a motion to adopt the resolution. And and I think we've had one district consider
042that. So, what the fee justification study that we prepared allows you to adopt up to the amount that's presented. So, the rates in the first slide in the back. >> So, we can make an amendment in any direction. >> Yeah, I mean, you could you could vote to freeze, say the the residential fees where they're at and increase the commercial fees to >> Now, you're talking my language. >> Yeah. >> Any more questions or comments from the Board of Trustees? >> Um I keep asking the same question over and over, and that's >> [snorts] >> the seniors, some relief for the seniors. I need some help on this. Like, I I I've talked about it, but I never get any traction. [clears throat] The seniors are paying the same rate as anyone else. I'm area
043two, trustee from area two. We're Menifee, which would be part of Menifee. Not that that makes a difference. We were Sun City. So, our tax rate is lower, which that's what was attractive about moving out here, one thing. Um but they don't seem to consider even a percentage break on the tax rate for the seniors. >> What? >> Or on the bond or what they pay into the school district. I don't I'm not looking for a whole lot, but coming from back east, knowing what happens to cities, what happened in the past, it's very concerning that we're taxing our seniors out of their houses. Now, that that housing is particularly for seniors. I live in the family area, but but still, we're raising their prices. >> Well, this to be clear, this isn't a tax.
044It's a one-time fee that's charged if constructing a new development project. And I will say that for qualified senior housing, >> Mhm. >> for any developer fees, they do offer a discount, which means that any new senior housing that meets certain criteria is charged at the lower commercial rate rather than the full residential rate. >> Okay. >> So, there is some relief if you're building a a developer building a new uh qualifying age-restricted housing unit. >> So, they're >> still [clears throat] battling over what they're going to do with those golf courses, so I don't know. >> [laughter] >> I can't help you there. >> They closed them down. They're sitting empty, but uh seems a little concerning, so uh okay. Uh Yeah, I don't know. >> If we follow up with the with this
045stuff or ask You mentioned few minutes ago about [clears throat] the letter of this district to experience that you need something. In your experience, do you know if any district is that option at the district level that seniors, in the same way, let's say, that we have students low socioeconomic level that we used to do before, right? Uh to have a free reduced meal discounts for AP courses. And the district make that kind of system, or do you know any district doing that? That seniors, not only for the fact of being seniors, but we know that in our community we have seniors that they they depend only on social security. And uh some of them they make a social security check is less than a thousand dollars a month. And plus all the inflation and
046medical costs and all of that. And the question is, do you have knowledge of any district doing something to help seniors in any way, either with that one-time uh tax or even with regular taxes or bond bond measures? >> Um I I can't speak to bond measures because I'm not a licensed municipal advisor. You have Fieldman um as your municipal advisor. Um the only So, my my expertise is in the developer fees and the CFD program. Um with developer fees, it's pretty strict in the statutes that uh if qualified, if it new development qualifies as age restricted, then they can be charged a lower rate, but there's nothing else that would give any like seniors relief from development impact fees that I'm aware of for school districts. And I would caution to in making special
047categories that are outside of the statutes because then you could be subject to you know why treat this unit by type of unit one way and not the other and sometimes that can can [clears throat] >> Yes. >> have a backlash on proving the legality of the the fees that we're actually charging. >> Okay. Well, thank you. Thank you for sharing. >> And I will say too that your community facilities district the the 92-1 which is a very large geographical area offers a annual senior exemption through an application process. And we manage community facilities districts throughout the entire state and that is a very unusual program. I only know of two school districts in the entire state that have a community facilities program that allows for a senior exemption. >> On all of their taxes.
048>> So, we are allowed to do something like like that. Can we talk later a little you can give us some information how we can implement that? >> Well, that's already implemented. >> Oh, you see that. >> Yes, that's already built in to your 90 CFD 92-1 program is we we've as a as a manager of the CFD program, we receive applications every year from seniors and and provide that exemption you know from their their CFD taxes. >> Oh, thank you. That is very important. So, now the question is do they know that that they get that option to to apply? Anyway, I thought that because, you know, the seniors they are not going to be the probability, right? It might be smaller with the seniors demographics than with other the the demographics that they
049are aware of that potential benefit. Maybe Dr. Williams we can talk about it and how we can share that with the community because they deserve that we >> [clears throat] >> give them the opportunity and keep them informed of how they can benefit that is something. >> Yeah, our our phone number is on the property tax bill. Next to that line item and and when we do receive calls from seniors we educate them that this is an option >> [clears throat] >> for, you know, they need There's certain requirements that they have to meet but then if they meet those they can >> But before the phone number and I'm sorry because I'm phrasing it this way. We are human beings, right? And that's what is driving these questions, right? Before that phone number that
050it says senior, "Would you like to have a discount or do you know that you qualify for a discount? Call this number." Because if we just give the number and they can call but they don't know that they can call for a discount that that defeats the purpose of having the phone number. Do you know if there is a clause or something there? >> Uh I'm not aware of because the what's on the property tax bill is the the rules for that are set by the county. And so they allow a very loose description but I think it says, you know, community facilities district 92-1 and then there's our 800 number on there. >> So if there is a county maybe we'll invite the county supervisor or Mr. Washington we can talk to see how
051they can help us support our senior community. But thank you so much. >> So we have a question here. >> So the developed fees that are collected are those spent every year? All of it? Or does it >> What's left over going to the bottom line or >> Um, yeah, it it they sit in fund 25 and there's actually a report that is required to be presented at the board to the board each year. It's called an annual impact report. It usually comes to the board around, I would say, November, December. Um, and that reports the the the balances and expenditures from the developer fees. And I don't have memory of what the balance is currently in the fund 25 account, but um, usually there's some spending and some left over. >> Didn't you want
052to share that earlier? >> Yeah, okay. Yeah, that was part of the >> That was in the previous presentation. >> was part of the >> It's a good question. Just to clarify, so so the developer fees are on the new housing. >> Yeah. >> The existing, correct? >> Correct. >> I think sometimes you know, you think that it's something that's going to be passed on to someone that hasn't existed in other houses. It's just on the new development. >> The new development, new housing, new commercial, industrial construction. So, new warehouses, new retail centers, they would all be subject to developer fees. >> Yeah, thank you. >> Key words, developer fees for the housing. Yeah, not the new owners of the houses. >> No, it's for it's it's charged as a condition for new development. >>
053[cough and clears throat] >> So, you have to pay these fees if you're building a home before you receive a building permit from the city or county to even start construction of that housing unit. So, you know, it it most of the time it's developers and that's why it's they're colloquially named as developer >> Okay, so this isn't impacting the residents. Okay. Any more questions? Okey dokey, let's move on. >> Yeah, it's a little not sure that the um, just to to make sure that the public hearing is closed cuz I think it was open but I >> It's open. >> Okay. Okay, thanks. Are there any public comments? >> No public comments. >> Okay, the public hearing is now closed at 6:53 p.m. There is There's a motion by Trustee Hall and a second
054by Trustee Anaya to approve the Perris Union High School District 2026 School Fee Justification Study and Adoption of Resolution Number 3525-26 approving the Level 1 Statutory School Facility Fees. Any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. Item 11.1 passes 5-0. Item 12.1 Consent Calendar Consent Calendar Approval of Consent Calendar Items. Do I have a motion? >> I'll make the motion. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Trustee Stafford. Any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. Item 12.1 passes 5-0. I written reports 14.1 Discipline May 2026 Monthly Suspension and Expulsion Report. Action Item 15.1 Resolution Number 4525-26 Order of Election. Do I have a motion? >> So moved. >> Thank you, Trustee Anaya. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Trustee Stafford. Any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. 15.1 passes 5-0. 15.2 resolution number 42
05525-26 resolution recognizing fallen heroes who attended district schools. Do I have a motion? Okay, thank you. Trustee staff or Any discussion? See none, please vote. Are we frozen? Oh, here we go. Here we go. 15.2 passes 5-0. 15.3 General function of 2026-27 designation of California Interscholastic Federation representatives to read. Do I have a motion? >> So moved. >> With Trustee Hall, thank you. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Trustee Anaya. Any discussion? >> This is a public hearing. >> Uh no. It's the next item. >> 15.3, right? >> 15.3. >> But I'm on 15.4. >> Me, too. I just went back to 15.3. >> Yeah. >> I I saw that jump, too. >> But see, the blue is the recommended action. So, it's a reading notice. >> No, it's an action item.
056>> Okay. >> All right, no more discussion. Please vote. 15.3 passes 5-0. 15.4 approval of memorandum of understanding between the Perris Union High School District and California School Employees Association and its chapter Perris Valley 469 regarding a new job classification paraeducator bilingual. Do I have a motion? I'll make the motion. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Trustee Staber. Any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. Item 15.4 passes 5-0. 15.5 approval of memorandum of understanding between the Perris Union High School District and California School Employees Association and its chapter Perris Valley 469 regarding paraeducator testing. Do I have a motion? I'll make the motion. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Trustee Anaya. Any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. Technology. All right, here we go. >> [snorts] >> 15.5 passes 5-0. 15.6
057approval of memorandum of understanding between the Perris Union High School District and California School Employees Association and its chapter Perris Valley 469 regarding paraeducator coverage. Do I have a motion? >> So >> Thank you, Trustee Haws. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Trustee Anaya, thank you. Any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. >> Item 15.6 passes 5-0. Item 15.7 approval memorandum of understanding between the Perris Union High School District and California School Employees Association and its chapter, Perris Valley 469, regarding health and welfare benefits. Do you have a motion? >> So moved. >> Trustee Naya, a second? >> I'll second. >> Any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. Oops. 15.7 passes 5-0. 15.8 approval of successor agreement between the Perris Union High School District California School Employees Association and its chapter, Perris Valley 469. Do you
058have a motion? >> I'll make the motion. >> Second. >> Is that you? >> Okay. >> Thank you, Trustee Staber. Any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. 15.8 passes 5-0. 15.9 approval of the Perris Union High School District's initial proposal to the California School Employees Association and its chapter, Perris Valley 469, for 2026-27 reopener negotiations. Is there a motion? >> So moved. >> Thank you, Trustee Hall. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> Thank you, Trustee Campos. Any discussion? Oh, wait, public hearing. This is a public hearing to receive comments regarding the Perris Union High School District's initial proposal to negotiate with California School Employees Association and its chapter Paris Valley 469 for the 2026-27 reopener negotiations is now open at 7:01 p.m. Open that. Are there any public comments? >> I'll call the public
059comments. >> The public hearing is now closed at 7:02 p.m. 2:00 p.m. There is a motion made by Trustee Hall and a second by Trustee Campos to accept the Paris Union High School District's initial proposal to negotiate with California School Employees Association and its chapter Paris Valley 469. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. 15.9 passes 5-0. Approval of the California School Employees Association and its chapter Paris Valley 469 initial proposal for 2026-27 reopener negotiations. Do I have a motion? >> So moved. >> Thank you, Trustee Anaya. A second? >> Second. >> Trustee Stafford. The public hearing to receive comments regarding regarding the initial the initial Sorry. The initial proposal for 2026-27 reopener negotiations submitted by the California School Employees Association and its chapter Paris Valley 469 is now open at 7:03 p.m. Are
060there any public comments? >> No public comments. >> [snorts] >> So I'm just waiting for the minute to change, you guys. >> [clears throat] [snorts] >> Wake you up? >> Yeah. >> I'll copy that. Got about 10 seconds here. The public hearing is now closed at 7:04 p.m. There is a motion by Trustee Anaya and a second by Trustee Stafford to accept the the California School Employees Association and its chapter Paris Valley 469 initial proposal for 2026-2027 reopener negotiations with the Perris Union High School District. Any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. 15.10 passes 5-0. 15.11 approve the revised job description title change from special education administrator program to program administrator pathways for adult life skills and authorization to recruit. Do I have a motion? >> So moved. >> Trustee Anaya, is there a second? >>
061Second. >> Thank you, Trustee Stafford. Any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. >> [snorts] >> 15 11 passes 5-0. 15 12 approval revise job description and title change from director of online learning and ADA recovery to director of educational services and authorization to recruit. Do I have a motion? >> So moved. >> Trustee Nunez, is there a second? [cough] >> [clears throat] >> I'll second it. >> [snorts] >> Any discussion? >> Yeah. So, I would like to motion to table this um this position just um at the moment I know that we've been given some statistical data and with the data that I've seen and kind of the the job description and with other things going on uh organizationally, I just think we need a little more discussion to >> So, if I can circle back.
062Okay, so we do have a second and you would like to make an amendment, correct? So, can you say your amendment and then we can move to a first and second and then what we'll do is go to discussion at that point. >> Motion to table. >> Okay, so you're making a motion to table. >> Correct. >> By uh Trustee Campos. Is there a second? >> To table. >> Second it. >> Trustee Hall, thank you. Sorry, I'm filling this out. Now we can go to uh discussion, Mr. Campos. >> Yeah, I just think um with some of the the organizational the structure organization that's going on, um I think there's just a little bit more discussion that I would I would like to see you know via a workshop discuss other positions [snorts] as well.
063Um with the information and some of the data that we were presented for this particular position at this point, I don't see the justification for um the job creation for the director position, but obviously that's why I'd like to have uh table it to have a workshop and then we can discuss more. >> Any more discussion? >> Yeah, um looking at the uh the chart organizational chart, it just looks like there's will be overlap. >> Uh sorry, Trustee Hawk, can you use your microphone? >> Uh with the information that we got just recently, um I think we do need a workshop to go over everything um to justify everything that's going to be put into this position cuz I I feel there's a lot of overlap. >> You're saying a whole workshop for one position?
064>> A workshop could be for an hour. >> What? >> But >> You said this position, that's why I'm >> I'm just going to make an educated, you know, vote. >> Yeah. >> Yes, for one business uh position, yes. >> Workshop, okay. Any more discussion? >> Just to clarify, this position has already been approved, right? And we're just revising it. Um just um I'm just going to publicly state something just uh in the future, I would like whenever we do bring a new position open uh to the table, if we can have um a lot more information, workshop, um for future um going forward. If I would like to see that as well. But this has already been approved from my understanding. >> [clears throat] >> Right? >> If something's been approved, um is it
065possible for, let's say, it was approved for by 4-1, and one of those um colleges that voted to approve it, can they bring it back up to um come back and re-vote on it because of new information? >> So, once the the vote has taken, um if >> [clears throat] >> the board wants to in the future date look at the position, >> Uh excuse me, can you come to the microphone, please? Thank you. Point of order. >> Yes. >> [snorts] >> So, once the position is approved Huh? >> Is it on? >> Yes, it's on. You want me to get the microphone? >> Yes. >> Once the position is approved, then uh you have the option to go recruit for it or it's in the books. The only option for that position would be
066for the board to bring it back and eliminate that job description. Uh the reason we're bringing this back to cuz we heard from the board that they wanted a broader scope on the position, but we do already have the online academy uh job description approved. So, we were just wanting to make sure that we heard the board and add some job duties to make it more of a as the board would say at the last meeting, a robust director position. >> Okay, thank you. >> So, I guess um I'll add um uh so, this position has has gone three different ways. It was originally one position, changed last month to another position, and then it changed back to this and and I understand um kind of the the rationale. Uh what I'm saying is also
067the there are other things that we discussed earlier um that positions that we're not 100% sure on clarification as to what what duties they have and I know that there there's been positions that have been assigned duties that they weren't actually doing or wasn't in their job description. And so, for me and and I I I agree. I would have loved to have had um a workshop and you know, I think we've been trying to to discuss our organizational chart to figure out, okay, this is what we have. These are our puzzle pieces. You know, if we have a question as to, you know, this position is created over here and has this title and these duties on it. But there's on the chart, there's another job that has those duties as well, but then
068we find out that well, they had those duties in name only. They weren't in the job description. Therefore, we're creating director positions without filling in and closing the gaps. And so, what I'm asking is is not necessarily, although I agree with with Mr. Hall, that if we did, you know, if it was for one, it would be important because you want to make sure that we're managing our money uh in a in a financial way that's like benefiting students. And so, this one I just with the other things going on, I still and I know we've gotten some of the statistical data. Um we've been given new information today that you know, a title that someone had isn't in their job description. I would just like to I'll have all that cleaned up to understand,
069okay, this is where we're at. This is why we need the job description or this job. These are the the things that we need from it, and then that we're not overlapping because there is overlap. Now, the question is, is that overlap in job descriptions, you know, or or not? And we don't know unless we have a discussion with other positions just to kind of understand, hey, this person it says this in their title, and this is what they're responsible for. Is that the case? Because in some of that, they should have these responsibilities that are built into this job. And so, >> So, I I would like to make a comment in regards to workshop. I think we could address this in closed session and address the matter and not create a whole time
070of everybody's resources and time for a workshop. Workshop's going to consist of a lot and everyone's time pulling them away from their daily tasks and responsibilities. I hear what you're saying. I like what you're saying, but I think we could limit that from a workshop to more of something in closed session. >> So, cuz there we can't make enough time. >> Um We're creating a position that is very costly. So, I think it is worth the time, if necessary, for us to have that conversation separate. Secondly, more importantly, I'm not sure that's worthy of a closed session item. Um you know, I in my experience in talking to attorneys, that wasn't one item that we could be discussing. Now, I'm not sure, so on that one, then you might want to check with legal to
071see if that's something we can do. Because the last thing I'd like to do is to create a position. >> So, it it but having the organizational If we can have that conversation in closed >> So, in order to do a study of the organizational chart is one thing, but for a specific position, we can handle that in closed. So, on that Well, I'm not going to go back and forth. We both said our piece. So, can we continue on? Is there any more debate? >> Hold on though, because I I I don't I don't Again, sometimes you just want to shut things down and that's not I'm trying to say that us having a board workshop will include this. And that way we have that discussion, so that we understand whether this position What
072you're saying is we can discuss this one position back there and then throw in the organizational and it's like no, no, they kind of go hand in hand. So, that's why I would like to see us do a workshop to understand what we have, so that when we have that position that we can create and then talk about that, but we can't talk about the organizational work chart in the closed session. >> Can I clarify? >> Please. >> Yeah. We'll allow you to do that. >> Okay. So, the reason we were able to talk about this, the other positions in closed session is because they were tied to personnel. And they were personnel movements that we can talk in closed session. The formation of new job or job positions like that are not tied to
073personnel cannot happen happen in closed session. They would have to be in open session. >> Tied to personnel. >> Well, this one is no longer tied to a person, so that's why it has to happen in open session. >> So, I think that's it. I think a workshop is good. It is a any maybe director now or like any high salary position that we can have a workshop and we can discuss why we need it and what's worked, what hasn't worked, and that way it gives you guys a little homework to do, too. And then we can have a lot more understanding on what's going the work that went behind your thought process, and then we can just move forward from there. >> And and I do want to remind the board that we did
074have that type of workshop for the for the the one that was approved in April because they were tied to personnel items. We had a It was about an hour discussion. >> [clears throat and cough] >> How many? >> Um but yes, if if the board requires or desires to have like a workshop, we just have to figure that out, whether it's going to be a special board meeting, how that's going to work. Um but that's up to the board. >> We may have had one before, but when you bring in a new position with it covering stuff that other directors and positions are doing already, it kind of raises you know, I want to know. So. >> No, that's what I said. >> Okay, we do one every quarter. >> I don't know. >>
075And if someone's already doing something, it it doesn't mean that they they're doing stuff outside of their scope and they do deserve to have a title to that. So, I want to add to that if they if they are doing the work and it's not in in their scope and they are doing it, and we also want to recognize that as well. So, just that that all will cover that workshop and everything can kind of be settled then. >> I mean, I I I think you know, ultimately what we want like So, we understand obviously if you're trying to create a position, there's a need. With the information I've been given, I don't feel comfortable with that need has been justified based on the minimal conversations we've had. And so, that's why I'm saying, you
076know, once we have a really good understanding of hey, this person does this and you know, then everything kind of shifts and it's like, oh, we really do need that. And you know, maybe we add to that position or because this person is doing this, we realize well, we actually need this as well. This is lacking. Cuz otherwise, if if we don't, then we might create a position for that one thing that's lacking and it's just like, well, okay, well, this is lacking, but they're sharing this, so let's slide it into there. And then at least for me, I have an awareness of okay, justifiable expense. You know, if if it were, you know, uh a one-time deal or whatever, I get it. But we're looking at a director position, it's going to be ongoing.
077I mean, I know you can remove it and do all that stuff, but we I want to avoid all that if possible. >> Yeah, and like I said, if the board wishes to have a workshop on the two positions, just let us know. Um cuz this one and the next one's also a new position, so if that's a difference, we can use both and present on a workshop, but that's up to the board. >> Okay, we have a first by Trustee Campos and a second by Trustee Hall. And you want to read the language? >> [clears throat] >> It is recommended that the Board of Trustees table this item and schedule a workshop to discuss current and future staffing needs, including the consideration of new positions and exist existing position requirements. >> Okay, please vote.
078>> Should Should I clarify just so everybody is clear? >> A vote of yes is in favor to table and have a workshop. A vote of no is to say no. >> You don't need a workshop and then it reverts back to the original. >> Yes. >> Even if we say no on this one, we can have a few I mean if we vote yes on this one, we can have a future workshop, right? This is not just shutting down workshops at all. >> This is just This is one. >> Just specific workshop. >> Yeah, vote yes. I'm voting >> for a workshop for this one. >> I vote no if this >> And we go back to the original. Item 15.12 passes. Three in favor. Two nays. So, you will get a workshop on
079this 12.12 or 15.12 for the description and title change from director of online learning and ADA recovery to director of educational services and authorizations to recruit. 15.13 personnel approval of new job description for program administrator visual and performing arts VAPA education and authorization to recruit. Do I have a motion? >> So. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> But is this the same as a another new position? Maybe we can put the workshops together. >> Well, he didn't make an amendment. So, so now it's >> Okay. >> just about one job description, not all of them. >> I see. >> Okay, please vote. >> 15-13 passes, four in favor, one opposed. 15-14 short-term assignment technology support. Do I have a motion? >> So moved. >> Trustee Hall. Is there a second?
080>> Second. >> Trustee Stafford, thank you. Any discussion? Please vote. >> [snorts] >> 15-14 15-14 passes, 5-0. Student physical education exemptions for the 2025-2026 school year. Do I have a motion? >> So moved. >> Thank you, Trustee Stafford. >> Second. >> Thank you, Trustee Hall. Oh, Trustee Hall, I'm so sorry. Any discussion? I feel horrible. I'm sorry about that. It's just the way you sounded. I apologize. >> My bad. >> Please vote. Yours is running slow. You might have an issue. >> [clears throat] >> Did you say it's working? >> I think it's just Well, it's going to go through. It barely took my vote. >> Oh, here we go. 15-15 passes, 5-0. 15-16 local control accountability plan and annual update for 2026-2027. Do I have a motion? >> So moved. >> Trustee Stafford, thank
081you. Is there a second? >> Second. >> I'm going to go with Mrs. Anaya cuz she sounded first. Any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. I would turn it again. 15 16 passes, 5-0. 15 17 adoption of the 26 27 budget district budget and resolution number 43 25-26 resolution of the board of trustees of the Perris Union High School District designating certain general funds as a committed fund balance. Do I have a motion? >> So moved. >> Trustee Anaya, is there a second? >> Second. >> Trustee Hall, thank you. Any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. >> And we have to invest in new servers to be a little faster. >> Going slow. >> The very slow. It took yours. >> Coming in slow. >> Mhm. >> Yeah, even clicking on this one. >> There's Oh, there
082we go. >> It's clicking on this. >> 15 17 is a 5-0 vote. 15 18 adoption of resolution number Is it number? Okay. 4025-26 and 4425-26 for participation in the State School Facility Program. Do you have a motion? >> So moved. >> Thank you, Trustee Stafford. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Trustee Nunez. Any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. >> I think this website is the website cuz even when we try to load it, it did the link really slow. >> We should send them an email. >> Yeah, there we go. I don't know if our personal site is our site. >> No problem. 15-8 passes 5-0. 15-19, adoption of Resolution Number 3925-26 authorizing filing of applications for State Allocation Board Administrator Career Technical Education Facilities Program and acknowledging five-year School Facilities Master Plan
083requirements. Do you have a motion? >> So moved. >> Thank you, Trustee Stafford. Is that Trustee Was that Trustee Hall this time? >> Combs. Y'all playing tricks on me now. >> [laughter] >> Any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. I say we all send this company an email because 15-19 is a 5-0 vote. 15-20, adoption Resolution Number 4125-26 acknowledging six certifications required to submit modernization funding applications to the office of public school construction. Do I have a motion? I'll make the motion. Is there a second? >> I second. >> Any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. Very slow. Yeah. 1520 passes 5-0. 1521 disclosure of collective bargaining agreement AB1200 for the tentative agreement of for California School Employees Association CSEA. Do I have a motion? >> I'll make the motion. >> Oh. >> Is it Go ahead,
084Trustee Hall. >> Maybe. >> Is it >> [clears throat] >> Don't play with me, man. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Okay, trust It is Trustee Knight. >> Okay. >> Any discussion? Please vote. >> I already moved it. >> 1521 passes 5-0. 1522 authorization for purchase orders above $50,000 June 2026. Do I have a motion? >> So moved. >> Trustee Stafford, is there a second? >> Second. >> Trustee Hall. >> Make it a second. Thank you. >> Please Are there any discussion? Please vote. >> 1522 passes 5-0. 1523 security weapons detection system followed up discussion and direction. Do I have a motion? >> So moved. >> Trustee Naya. Any Is there a second? >> There's no There's no second. >> Says it right here. >> It's a recommendation for you guys to give
085us guidance. So it would be >> So I have a motion and then John Hannon [clears throat] will provide a presentation. >> It's a They have to give us direction so we'll have to direct with motion with direction. What is it you guys want? >> Well, we still have to do a motion before we do a presentation, right? >> Well, we'll do a presentation then you guys can make a motion. >> Well, we already have a first so I'm just going to complete this cycle we started and then what we'll do is after the second we'll go to like discussion. Are you okay with that? >> Well, what's the motion? >> Yeah, the word. >> Weapons detection system follow-up discussion and direction. Do I have a motion? That's how it's worded. >> the direction, I
086know, but what direction? >> Just get it right. >> It'll It'll follow up discussion and direction. >> I know I know we're backwards but I I'm rolling with the agenda. >> Okay, can we get a second so people can discuss? Who is the second? >> do the second. >> Thank you, sir. >> Wait until John comes up. >> Mr. Copper or Mr. Hannon. Wow, I am off on my names today. Mr. Hannon, you mind? >> Good evening. >> [clears throat] >> Good evening. >> Um we're coming back with the weapon detection system presentation as requested by the board. >> [clears throat] >> Um we're going to talk about the system itself, first year costs, and then the system and staffing plan, and then a four-year cost and then questions. So, the system we're looking at
087is the Open Gate system or the CHS system that was presented here. The cost for 23 systems, which would cover all our campuses including CMI, is the 638,000 and change. And again, to go back, the 23 systems is the bare minimum, but it's based on the population of the schools and the ability to get them through in an orderly fashion so we don't have long lines and create tardies or attendance problems, especially since we're trying to get attendance up. It would be counterproductive to send people home or discourage them. For staffing, we're asking for an additional five 8-hour campus supervisors. Um and it's listed where they would go on the campuses. This is also based on the population and the number of systems that we would be operating. And we need additional staff to deal
088with that. We would also be using um once we do negotiations, try to get the clerks clerical staff out for 1 hour in the morning to do this. But the reason for the additional security staff is we have um first period skips and second period skips, those students would still be coming in. The clerical staff would go back to their regular jobs. We would have to staff the system as these kids come in. If you don't do that, we'll have like 200 students outside of Paloma that will not be scanned. We don't want to do that. We would also scan throughout the day. And also, like at Paloma, where 300 students go to lunch, and if they count them in the middle of lunch, those students would need to be re-scanned when they come back
089on campus. So, we'd need the staff to do that. The other issues we would have is we would have a minimum of two um minimum two entrances [clears throat] per school. Uh that means Paloma would to be reduced by one. But, we might have to make some changes at Liberty and Heritage because of the way their parking lot is set up. So, those are conversations we'd have to have with the school. And then those might create additional costs that I couldn't account for here because I don't know what they would be. >> [clears throat] >> Uh, this just explains what I just explained to you what the people would be used for. And then the number of systems that are displayed are Liberty High School and Paloma would have five systems covering two entrances. Paris
090and Heritage would have four systems covering two entrances. And you can see the rest of the schools there, which are B2, one, and two covering their entrances. CMI staffing is not included in this. Um, they don't work for me, so I don't know exactly what they would need. Um, and to ensure that the systems are effective and constantly working, in addition to any manufacturer recommendations, we will work with our SROs and our SRDs to test the system. Our school resource officers and deputies carry guns, so they can walk through them. If they alert on, we know this is working. If they don't, we know we have a problem with the system. So, we will we will keep the system make sure the system's working properly to ensure that we're not allowing weapons on campus. So,
091the the first year cost would be $1.138 million for the equipment and the staffing. And then every year after that, the maximum $500,000. The cost is based on a top-level campus supervisor, and this is total compensation. So, of course, the number will be lower as we hire new people, they won't be top step, and the clerical staff won't be top staff, but as we get to the fourth year, it will be closer to that $500,000. >> Ongoing cost? >> Ongoing, yes. So, that's the presentation. My recommendation is if you you staff you use this system, you staff it completely um and we run it every day daily to make sure we don't have weapons on our campus. >> I hear only asking for five campus supervisors, not five at each site. >> I'm asking for
092five total campus supervisors. And they would be broken down um like what they Liberty gets two, everybody else would get one. >> Okay. >> I have a question. Um aside from this system uh I know that I want to say over a year ago um we did a site assessment at Liberty High School and I remember a time uh the officers and you were there uh with Dr. Taylor that they needed an extra campus supervisor out that area to kind of control things. So, I mean even aside from this, would would you say um to be working at optimal campus security, do we need, regardless of the system or not, about five more campus supervisors spread out throughout the district just as is without the system? >> Yes, I would agree with that. >> Okay.
093>> Yes. >> Not more? Or more? >> I would never say no. >> [laughter] >> I was a volunteer. I'm asking questions. Well, maybe >> Yes, we could always deal with them deal with more. Um but I I agree that the five five across the district would solve um some of the problems that we currently have. >> Um in terms of uh cuz I I realize with when So, when the students return from lunch um do they know that we either purchased wands or we purchased more wands that are more cost-effective? Are are they wand back in as they enter now existing or how do they re-enter? >> So, the No, we're not currently we're not wanding students as they enter the campus. The wands are only being used in the discipline [clears throat] offices.
094So, when we encounter students that we believe are vaping or something, that's what we use the wands for. So, once we get reasonable suspicion that we should search them, we use the wands to search them. So, our searches aren't as intrusive. We're not putting hands right on the kids every single time we're searching them. If the wands hit on something, then we'll be going hands-on to see what they hit on. But, uh the wands on the entry would be so time-consuming that the lines would be out into the street and the students would get frustrated and they'll either try to jump the fences or they'll just not come. And my department will not be responsible for that. >> [laughter] >> Good of that disclaimer. Now, um in terms of your conversations um with law enforcement,
095with staff, with site administrators, campus security, um I know that the the the minimal conversations I've had, it would be kind of like like they see them very beneficial for big events, football games, you know, right or it could be basketball, sporting events, um anywhere where we're going to have people from outside of the community coming in and just to secure ensure the safety of everybody involved in whatever event that is. Um but, I know that, you know, there's also the feeling of, well, you know, if someone wants to get a weapon, they're going to get a weapon. And so, what's like or in your conversation, is there a happy medium to say, you know, cuz this is this is a very expensive the whole thing moving forward if we go full throttle, you know,
096we can agree now and that we need the staffing, which is a half a million in the campus supervisors. So, then that would still be ongoing, but now adding, okay, so if we were to buy systems, you know, do we then add the whole 600,000? Or do we say, "Hey, you know what? Maybe we start with X amount, you know, kind of use them as a trial run and see if the community wants them and if the the students, the parents, you know, the the site administrators, >> [clears throat] >> kind of all of it together. What are your thoughts on their thoughts, I guess, on the whole system if we were to go in with a whole or maybe half what information or research have you gathered? >> Well, you nailed it on the
097head. It's mixed emotions about having them on a daily basis. I think the consensus is for the athletic events, football games, rivalries. They can utilize them for dances. We utilize them utilize them for graduations to make it easier to search the students for graduation for metal items in the way, but not necessarily for balloons and stuff like that. But, we can utilize it for the special events. The issue is is that's not going to stop weapons from coming on campus on a daily basis. So, that's something you have to, you know, consider is we can have them at all the basketball games we want, but that's not going to stop junior from bringing a gun on campus during the I hope I answered >> Yeah, and and yeah, and I I just wanted to know
098what obviously you're having conversations with a lot more people. So, it it almost seems like there's like a happy medium of hey, some >> It's a mixed It's a mixed emotions because it's not something that's very common in schools in California. When you know, I think it's I think the stat is was 1.8 to 2.7% of schools in California or nationwide have metal detectors. When you get into larger urban areas that have serious crimes in their neighborhoods, you tend to see more of them on a daily basis, but it is a rare rarity and in our area, you know, Hemet has some Corona hasn't, but they don't use them. So, and then that's it. And you go the Unified is the closest after that that used to use them on a random basis after they
099because they've had issues on campus and they came to an agreement with the ACLU, they did it more randomly. But they recently, I think last year, stopped that random search, so. So, it is a rarity on campuses throughout the nation, but even more so in California. >> I know there was a a survey done and I think that survey got a lot of our information from, right? I remember reading the survey that it was I know students were not for it. Um parents were medium. And then the staff was I don't know where the staff was. >> Also medium. It was just the the students were really not for it. Um I I I always I believe in being proactive, not reactive. And um I don't know. I'm a parent and I'm like I it's
100a lot of uh I'm I Do you guys in reality, in the real reality of it, do you think the the the I guess the I know in the beginning it will be chaotic. Is it Is it worth it? Is it Do you think the staff would be okay with taking that chaos at first? How do you feel? >> Well, I feel we can eliminate a lot of the chaos if we communicate ahead of time. Um a lot of the uh nation wide a lot of folks who have started using these systems, they've announced it, they've um produced videos that they've put on YouTube, they sent out messaging to the parents of the students ahead of time to let them know, "Hey, this is what you can expect. Do not bring these items because they
101will set off the metal detector. These are the items that are required to come in school. You want to take these out of your backpack when you come in." I think if we can if you do decide to go this direction and you front-load it with the students and parents, it should reduce a lot of the chaos. And then as and as anything else, we have a lot of ninth graders that are going to have our eighth graders that are going to high school. Traffic is always a pain the first couple of weeks. Once the parents get their plan together, "I'm going to pick you up a block away. I'm going to drop you off early." You see the traffic dies down. I think the same thing will happen here. As you see, "Okay, there's
102a longer line at this time. Now we know now 15 minutes School starts at 8:30. Between 8:25 and 8:30. 35, that's when we get the rush of our students. We have our metal detectors up. People are going to change the way they come to school because they know there's going to be long lines. "I don't want to be late for class, so maybe I'll come 15 minutes early." So as as it goes, yes, in the beginning, a little chaotic, but if we front-load it, then they'll they will make the decision and change it for us. >> And what's your what's your opinion on on pilot I'm doing a pilot in one school first compared to just dropping it in all the schools? >> Um it's something that you can do. My my problem would be
103selecting the school. >> Mhm. >> Um you have to be careful when you do this because you don't want to send the wrong message. You know, and I think that's one of the reasons why we're looking at all the schools because, you know, in the beginning, someone said, "Hey, let's get this and let's run it in Paris High." Well, why would we go to Paris High when the incident occurred at Heritage High? They got everybody all pumped up. >> Yeah. >> So you know, you can do that. I would just be careful about which school you select because whichever school you select, there's going to be a >> Yeah. >> "Why did you pick us?" You know what I mean? think. >> Would staff be required to go through this? >> This is what only
104be for students at this time. >> That's a That's a negotiable item. And even the use of the >> People like >> Okay. >> [clears throat] >> So, if the board decides to go with that we still have to negotiate with both bargaining on the usage of the device. In other words, we have to negotiate the effects like the staff and what the impact is going to be to the department and things like that. So, um we have a meeting on July, but this would be one of the topics that we'll be bringing up if the board decides to go this direction. >> So, it depends on how long our negotiations take that uh we would be able to say you know, we have to pilot it by this date or by or we can
105move forward by this date. So, it all depends on that. And the staff going through the detectors, that's also would be a negotiable item. >> Mhm. Can we get Dr. Williams to weigh in on the budget? >> Like >> on how >> Well, hey. I mean, cuz obviously we're discussing like two different things. So, if we're looking at you know, a 1.7 million initial and then like 500 4 to 500 ongoing. Um but then, you know, maybe going with the Well, what if we just added all the campus supervisors? Yeah. >> Um we have uh set aside $500,000 for next year. Um understanding that the cost is going to be approximately 1.3 million, then we would just have to make the decision to add the additional dollars uh to make up that total amount. But,
106there is 500,000 set aside uh in the 2026-2027 budget. >> So now that So my assumption is if if we're setting 500,000 aside, it would have to be for staff. Because you >> [cough] >> can't have the systems [clears throat] without the staff. And so it's an ongoing expense. So if it's you know, put aside for 26-27, we're going to put aside 27-28. Then the question is what do we do with the system? And do we go forward and load the other 600,000 initial cost to have it everywhere and then and then you can fully operate and implement. Um but at the same time, you know, if we just had the campus security officers, it would Okay. >> And the dollars we set aside was for the system. Um so in hearing this updated information
107and the need for additional staff, uh I do not believe that that was set aside. So that's something um that we would talk about in cabinet and um move forward with how to ensure that's there. If that that's the board's direction. >> Okay, so that So shifting that 500 into the systems into personnel, we could that money could be used for that. So I I I don't know if it's restricted funds and that we can't got to be specific things or if it's money that we can use for personnel. If it's that's the direction that we decide. >> Mhm. >> Because yeah, we're [snorts] going to make that decision. >> Mhm. >> Well, the staffing would be an additional ongoing cost. Uh it's not recommended that we use one-time dollars because once those one-time dollars
108are gone, then those positions come back to the general fund. So I I feel that, you know, the 500,000 that we have set aside, we'd have to make the decision on the additional the 700,000 approximately and which funding source we would use uh for that. >> Sure. >> Uh and then another thing uh as I was thinking about it, we could possibly look at um any restricted or one-time dollars for the system and then using the set-aside for staffing. And we can talk about that in cabinet and we can make that decision. >> Well, and that was going to be my question that that the money that was set aside cuz I didn't want to think about that so I didn't even bring it up if that was one-time use money that cuz then it's
109not ongoing so then we have to find but if you'd already if it's designated as ongoing and then that obviously that carves that out that we have to figure out the initial. >> And if we put the system in the one-time >> Right. >> or if it's I it looks like it's just one-time then we're fine there and then we would just take on the expense of the staffing over time. >> What does that look like? >> Uh right now it's approximately 500,000 >> Well, we have 500,000 but I mean >> So, as you know, it just continues to add to our our structural imbalance um but safety is a priority for Dr. Vallo and for the district so we are going to move in that direction with safety being first in line. >> Do
110we have any available safety credits right now? >> We no longer have safety credits because they were really not safety credits. >> Okay, we'll talk about that later. Okay. >> So, the the the safety credits was moved into the general fund so uh we have that 500 that was remaining from the safety credits that was designated for the system. But now in thinking about it, we'll move the system into one-time funds if that is the approval uh of the district and then we would look at the staffing being an ongoing cost from a general fund source. >> Any more discussion? Okie dokie. Please vote. Oh, wait. No, no, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. >> So we don't we need to >> Yeah, so it says follow up discussion and direction. So, yeah. Say
111what? On on how John proposed it? Yeah. Do you guys agree with what John is suggesting? The five uh campus supervisors and the detection system? >> So, without knowing the uh I I wouldn't feel like I have enough information to make sure because we don't have the budget to go forward with that. I mean, if if if I know we've already secured 500,000, then we can move in that direction. We have that. And uh what I don't know is was that 500 one time or was that 500 ongoing? >> The 500,000 was designated for the system. So, one time. So, if we're going to purchase the system, the recommendation would be let's get the system out of the one-time dollars for safety and security of our students, and then uh we would begin to use
112um the 500,000 for staffing. And then for the next year, we would look for ways to continue to make sure that that's funded. Because safety is a priority, and we don't want to not move forward with that. Uh that is a priority for the district. So, we would just look at using general fund to ensure that that is available to go hand in hand with the system. >> So, if we just [clears throat] did uh the five uh campus supervisors to start off with, we're increasing our safety. Either way. >> We're we're yeah, making our campuses more secure. So, yes, that's what we'll be doing is increasing the the security officers for the $500,000 approximately. Cuz I'm hoping that benefits and everything get cleared >> That's a whole conversation. >> Excellent. Love that, Mr. Hayden.
113>> So, I just want to say the $500,000 is 15 additional staff for the morning and five campus supervisors. So, campus if just five campus supervisors will cost you >> So, that $500,000 is >> all staffing that we would need for the system. >> Oh, yeah, cuz you Oh, yeah, plus the And there is there's some other things attached to our security needs. Um vests We We We talked about vests and handcuffs and pepper sprays. Are those also part of this cost or is this just stand-alone or just >> This is the weapons This is strictly the weapons attached to the system. >> Okay, so >> and the staffing cost for the five campus supervisors. >> So, did >> That's the rate up there on top of the 308 the 360. >> And did we
114have [clears throat] a cost on our other stuff yet that we were going with the vests and all that stuff that you had to get through I guess MOUs or whatever, but I mean kind of prediction. >> So, that MOU to go to campus security was uh voted down by the association. So, that will be coming back to negotiations. So, we are not moving to campus security at this time. So, with the vests and handcuffs. >> Okay. So, is it safe to say that we started with the campus supervisors? Is that just I mean, I guess there's two ways to look at it. You either buy the system and you go full bore and then we got to figure out and hope, you know, I mean, I I would do that um if we have
115if you know, the survey everything all the evidence is there and then we have it in the budget. You know, but it seems like moving without having that conversation and kind [clears throat] of security still in the line we're going to have to staff anyways. So, maybe going staffing first and that cuz we could always purchase if if the staffing isn't enough, we could always add purchase the full systems or partial systems. I mean, I I would I would lean to move like if something's going to happen it would be I think we can do the staffing first, but that's just me. >> Yes, I I would recommend that you if you if you do the staffing first, that would that would work cuz you can't do the system without the staffing. >> Right. Right.
116>> You know, North Pole learned that. Now their system is sitting in like a desk and we don't want to do that. That's a lot of money to spend just to have it not being used. >> Can we buy their desk, Kevin? >> Well, they're they're actually they're actually leasing it. >> [clears throat] >> So, they're they're still wasting a bunch of money, Graham. >> Yeah, I like the the fact that the we get the staffing first. Figure out how that works works works out. Get them trained as well. >> Right. >> Then bring it back to most of the the system. See what the budget's like. >> Well, the big cost the big cost would be the staffing and then the the weapon is a one-time purchase, so if we're looking cost-wise, that's going
117opposite direction. >> Yeah, well or go ahead and go >> Yeah, I was looking into the cost that I had already with Mr. Ayala. So, we're looking at the eight campus supervisors, the five campus supervisors for eight hours each one is almost $400,000. Yeah, we thought about I remember that some middle schools we have noon supervisors. They are there for two hours a day only. They help only during lunch time. Yeah, we in we are going to need the majority of the heavy is in the morning, right? When the students are getting there. >> Yes and no. Yes, yes, the majority would be in the morning when the students are getting there, but you also have students and I was uh speaking with Liberty for example um after the morning comes and goes, they're still
118bringing in uh over 300 students throughout the day. Students that are leaving, coming back, coming in late cuz they have skips. So, you run the risk of 300 people not being scanned. >> What would these these uh campus supervisors, they would be at that post at all time or how was how would their when how would that work? >> So, they would be available to post, so you would have a post that would be that scanning. It would not necessarily be the same campus supervisor all the time, but if you if you don't have the staff, then we would be pulling from our lunch areas, which are already understaffed. And so, that's the idea of having the bodies during this time, so you are not pulling from where you already have people assigned. So, as
119our campus supervisors rotate through their positions, so whoever's assigned the first month to the scanning, they would be assigned somewhere else the second month and someone else would come in. So, it would put somebody on the scanner all the time. >> So, the director only question or the comment Mr. Handu was if we had the equivalent to the lunch supervisors. But we place a regular campus supervisors that what were the whole day in the morning for those 2 hours. And we get them 5 2 hours only. So we are reducing the cost almost by $300,000. Right? Because instead of 8 hours it's going to be 2 hours. So it's it's going to be a reduction by 75%. So the only thing would be throughout the day it who is going to be helping us with
120our process. But if there are 300 students, there are not 300 students who are at the same time. They they are going to be divided in the the six periods [snorts] that are there. So we're talking about average 50 students per period. >> That would be depending on the site. >> Yeah. We're talking >> a normal would [clears throat] have over 300 students coming to lunch. >> It's Yes. And and and it is my understanding that that they Well, at least Heritage and the other schools that I have seen, Liberty, there is one campus supervisors at the entrance. Anyway, >> That's just Heritage. Yes. >> Oh, just Heritage. And I was thinking, well, that campus supervisor there are going to be 50 people 50 students coming throughout the day and we reduce our budget by
121$300,000. Yes yes it goes to something to keep it more. >> So we would have to negotiate that with the cabinet of the board uh the interaction a couple years ago I believe to convert all campus supervisors to 8-hour positions. So anything below that we would have to figure out with the unions on bringing in part-time work. >> I'd like to make a a few comments. So yes, I love that we're asking questions about how we're going to fund this. But we're we need to be discussing the direction which is is a huge element of this decision. The funding. But that's their job to figure out. And yes, we can ask the questions, but we can still give direction. That is our job. But, the other piece that I I was just staying quiet listening
122to all the questions that we know the answers to. But, based on our past conversations, especially as newly elected board members, we've all discussed, do we go to the person of expertise when we have a question in that area? But yet, most of us aren't in that profession. And we're asking good questions. Or and we're deciding on other people who do those duties. And we're asking the right questions. But, I want to remind us all, too, not all of us do that job. So, I would look to those two people right there who are experts, and I would question them. But, I'm going to stay quiet as much as I can until I can't hold back anymore because I think you guys need to keep asking questions. So, you have a good understanding of why
123they want so many metal detectors, why they want so many bodies attached to that. So, that's what I'm going to say, and I hope you ask the right questions. >> I I have a >> [clears throat] >> good question. We always lean on where's the data? So, where's the incident reports? Where's the reports that show we need all this? >> Where's the incident reports from our schools? >> The the total incident reports started 0000001. They should all be tracked. >> I'll answer that this way. Um 2 years ago, Harris High School, we had two we recovered two guns off students on campus in a 2-month period. Um Valverde had two guns on orange wrist ties. >> No, no, that's that's not answering my question. >> Well, I'm I'm trying This is the way we answer.
124>> I don't want to do that, though. I want to know where are the incident reports. Do we have that data? >> Yeah, well, we can we can pull police reports. >> One or two. I've been to school in the city. Somebody got killed every year. >> Okay. >> That's what happens in the city. So, with the one or two, I'm fine. I I really want to support, but it seems like you're getting ahead of yourself here. It It's I just found out one of things is canceled. I'm not directly sure about the system you're purchasing because I haven't gone and gotten the training yet, which we're supposed to go get next month to see are we ahead on AI or are we behind? Are we behind some old computer when we should be behind
125something better? Are we spending our money wisely? I know you need this. Yes, I agree with this. But, you have to have the data. And you And we got to find the money. >> And I And I And I I want to answer your question. >> But, I have one or two >> I want to answer your question. >> I'm going to I'm going to let you Mr. Mr. Stafford real quick. I'm going to reply to you really quick cuz I think this is a very tricky sub- subject because this is where we want to be proactive. And when we're asking for data, we're reacting. Uh so, that's something that I just want to throw in there too. >> And that's going to be my answer. The data you're asking for is a shot student
126or a student with a gun on campus. I don't want to provide I don't want to present that data to the Board of Education. I definitely don't want to have a conversation with a parent saying that you were standing in front of the board and you didn't advocate for this thing until my son was shot or until my daughter was shot. I mean, I get what you're saying about cities. Some cities are more dangerous than others, but what data are we looking for? A smoking gun? >> incidents reports >> Well, can I Can I add so, um and and and to Mr. Garcia, so I thought initially this was brought forward by the board to give to you to present. So, you are you are just acting, in my opinion, you're acting on what we've
127asked. Now, when we asked, we didn't have information. We didn't have systems, we didn't have costs, we didn't have any of that. That has been presented to us. I believe you've given So, when you're giving your opinions or your thoughts on the things, I'm I'm assuming that you're the expert again because you've I'm sure had conversations with our law enforcement personnel as well as our site administrators and all that. And so, I mean, thank you cuz I think you've done what we've asked you to do. And I think that the difficult part is this isn't It's It's you know, it's one of those where one mistake and you can't put a price tag on it, you know? But at the same time, you know, there's a cost and so with cost, there's always going to
128be other things that are gone. You can't just add something keep adding things without taking things away. And so, I understand the data and the statistical stuff. I mean, that's you know, that's a tough place to be put in because, you know, if you were to if you were to gather the data all throughout Riverside County, you know, how many students have been and then how many systems do we have? I can't I couldn't even tell you if Hemet did it reactive or proactive. You know what I mean? So, did they do it after the fact or did they do it before the fact? And has, you know, >> And I can answer that. It's proactive. >> Oh. Okay. And so, and obviously so >> And it's the whole school it's LA Unified School District.
129It was proactive. And it was in response to Columbine, Sandy Hook, and [clears throat] all these other schools, right? You know, so that's with respect, that's the data that people are using when they make these decisions. They don't want their their school district to be in the data point. You know, you want to get ahead of it before [clears throat] it happens. >> And therein lies the dilemma. >> Right. And then once we have a system running and we're not recovering guns, then someone's going to say, "We don't even need these. We're not recovering guns." Cuz I can't prove a negative. But I will take that. >> Yeah, you hear the weak. >> Yeah, you know, so >> I don't know if you've ever heard of Murphy's Law. What can't happen will happen. >> [laughter]
130>> I'm just like if it was if my students are on that campus at night, I never think of the worst, but the worst can happen. It's This is something that that I The price tag is What is >> It's cheaper than >> There is no price tag on a life. If if we would if that would ever you know, happen, we would all be sitting here with our heads to our floor and I know I would not be able to sleep. I don't know. >> So, there's a phrase out there, and Tony, you could definitely relate to this one. It's better to have a fire extinguisher and not need it than need it and not have it. And this is a very identical situation because we are talking about lives. >> And everything we
131do is based on >> the betterment of our community and our students. >> The data, the information. >> Yeah, plenty of data. >> to spend that amount of money is you have to answer the questions. >> I think we can also put in perspective, like for example, when the computers rolled out, I'm sure it was a big cost, and then we just adjust, and then we just adjust, and then we just adjust, and >> Well, look, there's another expert walking in. >> It's the same thing as you know, they can go through the the scanner, but they put the weapon or whatever they wanted to get across. >> We have to keep the current staffing watching the perimeters and watching the gates cuz [clears throat] the person who wants to bring a weapon on is
132not going to walk through metal detectors. They're going to jump the fence. They're going to hide something. And we need the people who are going to be out there monitoring those gates and monitoring the the bushes, looking for the backpacks, and for stuff that might be hidden on campus, and that's why we need the additional bodies. >> So, ironically, another expert walked in. I'm going to ask them to come up and answer you guys' questions. Mr. Phillips, we're talking about metal detectors right now, and if you don't mind, just don't don't uh expose our current protocols. >> Okay. >> But, if they have questions regarding metal detectors, I hope you could add some input to other uh I'm trying to stay as neutral as possible. >> Absolutely. I do. >> Are you Go for it.
133>> Well, well, first of all, I mean I don't He's his boss. >> Correct. >> I've heard from him. >> Yeah. Yeah. Or >> You're his boss. >> Yeah. >> So, I've heard from him. Like, they don't You know, I it felt like I didn't say something and I'm like, "Whoa." You know, change my mind. >> Steve, we made comments about boots on the ground. Sometimes you have to have boots on the ground to >> What I need >> I I I completely understand that. I don't think that's proper to undercut John. >> I I believe >> I believe what you're saying. >> I mean, both Johns. I would believe what you say, but I don't think it's proper to undercut Mr. Hanning [clears throat] with his subordinate just like that. Well, suddenly, that's not
134proper >> I guess what I'm saying, so for me you're staying silent, but you're the expert. Well, share your expertise so that we know where you're at, because what I don't want is to question what you're thinking, guess. I want to know exactly I I think I've laid out what I think. You know what I mean? And and I'm I'm cross. I'm I'm like, I you know What I do know is we need the staff, regardless. So, I know we need that 500,000 ongoing cost, because I've had conversations with people about just that we don't have enough campus security. So, I'm firm there. I'm okay with the system, because but it's a cost, right? And and if I recall the system's a 10 years and then we renew them. >> I know it was 10
135or 12. >> I know there was a refresh. >> that the system will last 30 years. I don't >> I know there was He had mentioned He had mentioned He had mentioned a refresh. So, so I And that's And that's kind of going back to Jamie's thing about like Okay, I get it. Um >> You may be thinking about the Avaya systems, too. We had two systems. >> No, no. No, no. It was It was Jive. I didn't want to say the names cuz last time I think we said names we weren't supposed to say in the presentation. presentation. Um And I understand exactly what Jamie's saying about, "Hey, this we deal with it. We make We make something happen and we deal with We budget accordingly." And so, I'm okay with that. You know,
136I think everybody is fine, but you know, you You're sitting there and you're not saying anything. You're You know, stroking your hair like, "Hey, you know, you know, the expert will say it." Because >> We need to hear >> I We need to hear it. Like, if we're going to make a decision, I need to know what's on your mind. I know what's on Tony's mind pretty much. Chuck's Jamie's spoken. I've spoken. But you're not speaking. And so, share with This is the time to do that because >> Steve, we have to give him direction. >> For clarity, I've talked to you numerous times about it and nothing has changed. You know my input. You know where I stand. You know I'm in the on the ground on a daily basis. Nothing changes. I'm 100%
137supportive of this because it's being proactive. Lives matter and and I will put my foot down to be proactive rather than reactive. And so, I I don't think I need to say anything. It justifies itself. And And like I said, they'll figure out how to move money, one-time money, restriction, restricted dollars, non-restricted dollars, you know, grants, all that good stuff. They'll figure that out. All's we have to do is provide direction. That I understand that's our role. That's all we have to do. And they'll present that to us and we'll We could approve it later on down the road, but right now it's just talking about these elements. >> Well, yeah, but and I think that's the >> But that's just it. That's what we're talking about and and I and I respect all the
138everything you guys say, but the reason why I'm staying quiet is because we are very repetitive with the same information, but it's not going anywhere. You guys don't want to make a decision with the same questions in a different form. That's what I'm saying and that's why I'm quiet. >> Well, I I think that's unfair because every time we've had the conversation, it's been a different conversation. The first one was the initial. This is the systems. Then there was the cost. So, then that's brought forward, but there was additional costs that we had with staffing that we didn't anticipate just cuz we thought, "Hey, we just buy the system 600 grand, we're done." We didn't realize the other costs. So, all I'm saying is the every conversation we've had has been a valid conversation and
139has been a productive conversation. And all I'm saying is we probably need to have one more conversation on the physical piece of it. And and I'm not saying "No." I'm just saying, "Hey, we we are responsible fiscally." And I understand, you know, >> Shouldn't we say that after we have a conversation about the the budget with regards to this and hold on this in the meantime? Cuz if that's what you're saying, you would have already said I know how you work, right? You you say what's on your mind and that's fine. I don't have a problem with that, but the goal is to give direction after discussion. >> Well, how about the direction we just slow down and go to the conference. Let's bring this up at the next meeting. We don't have trouble tabling
140much smaller items, so this is a big big deal. >> It is a big deal and how many times have we pushed it back? >> Well, that's not as easy as you would like. To tell you the truth, >> No, no, I understand and definitely at the conference you're going to see a lot more. >> I think >> one thing that I know I would like to see is we're in the perfect moment in time to implement this at the new year. So, they have time to receive the product, go through the trick cross training, and implement it right when all the changes are occurring with the fresh bodies and fresh students, fresh teachers, fresh staff, everybody being fresh, and we attack it like you used the perfect example with the traffic, right? It's overwhelming
141at the first first week or whatever, but it it there's results, there's progress, everybody understands and comes up with a solution, and this is the opportunity for them to do their job. Our job is to govern, have some discussion, and just give direction. They'll figure it out. >> I think you need to scale back a little bit, Dr. Routh came up with an idea, you know, potential idea to save us few hundred thousand. >> Are we able to just open up the negotiations, and then we'll move from there? >> [clears throat] >> Is [snorts] that a direction we can get? >> We need to know what we were at negotiation. >> Everything's up, whatever's there, and then if cuz obviously if if everything gets approved, then we can can we >> If I can make
142a comment though, if yes, if we if you guys decide to go forward with this system, then we know how we can negotiate. But if we're going to look for a another pie in the sky system, we don't know what that's going to look like. So, we'd have to wait until after July, well, the second to last week in July when we go to the conference, and see if there's something better. But we presented the top two systems to you that are there out there right now. And the reason why we went with this one it was its portability, what it was allow us to use it during the day, but also allow us to use it in football games and basketball games, or anything else we want to use it because it's so portable.
143The other system, which is a great system, is not as portable, and it's twice as expensive. >> And it's a lease. And it's a lease. >> And it's a Well, it's an on There's an ongoing cost with it. And that's why we went in this direction because it's top of the line system, it's It's give us what we need and more. >> I'm I'm just We're all in in in agreement that we need the extra security and that's the highest cost. And the systems are one-time cost. And I've seen a lot of numbers go through one year and 500,000 doesn't seem to be too much compared to what I've seen in a year. And again, I'm not I'm not an expert in this and I don't know numbers of of this scale. So, I'm trying
144to understand why we're fighting this so hard. If we for sure need the staffing and that's our biggest cost and you guys are for the staffing, the one-time cost, I don't know why we're fighting it so hard. I just I just want to understand. >> Well, okay. So, just to clarify, um we the five campus supervisors prior to the staff has never come up. It's never been It only came up with the system because in the system required the personnel. So, in hearing everything, that's why I had had conversations in the past with people saying we need more campus security. We need more campus supervisors. But, maybe it wasn't in the budget. You know, maybe um you know, previous CBO that it's it's not in the budget. We don't have the money. We don't have
145this that and the other. Um which Okay. Well, I understand. Well, otherwise, why haven't we made that move? I don't know. But, we're short. Um I think the more and more I'm hearing the conversation, the way I look at it and I'm with you on this. We could agree we need the staffing regardless. So, I think that's a win. Identifying that we need that extra staff. You know what I mean? I thought it was at first at just Liberty and maybe another but you know, it's probably district-wide. Now, you're absolutely correct. It's a one-time fee. Worst come to worst, we pay it, we bite the bullet, We go into some deficit spending. You know, we find out where Corona or whoever else Well, maybe we don't need it. We ended up doing it, and it
146didn't hurt. You know what I mean? And if let's just say the community just it's enough for our We've spent the cash. Yeah, I mean if if then then they want us to remove it and shelve it and let it collect dust and that's you know or another board decide to say, "You know what? That's making the schools look, you know, something that they're not and you know, we're going to push them off to the side." Fine. Expense. Now that you look at it, then it was it only cost us 650. And it's okay if it if if that and I I I shouldn't even say it this way, but let's just say if that was a mistaken expense that it didn't pan out. It's like, you know what? We've made other mistakes. You know,
147we're probably cost us more. You know, it could be different things. Um but we're going to keep the staff. So, I'm okay with it. You know what I mean? Like I'm okay with that, you know? And then the the the ball now gets kicked into her court. Hey, figure it out. But but but then but then but then [laughter] when she presents deficits and cuts, we can't complain. Yeah. We can't complain and say, "Well, why you know, why is that going away? Why are we not doing that?" Well, you know, what the kids the students first. It's like, "Hey, we're with it." You know what I mean? Like so and as long as that's understood, you know what I mean? I'm okay with it. Like in the end of the day, it's our decision, but
148then if it doesn't work out for whatever reason financially and other things go, it's our our decision, our fault, or our successes. So, I'm okay with it. You know what I mean? >> Okay, on that note I'd like to make it a motion or an amendment to the to 15.23 since it was unclear if it was a motion or a direction, but I'd like to make a motion to purchase the the weapons detection system and in addition to five campus supervisor positions to support the implementation and operation at the all the school sites. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Trustee Anaya. >> Can I get one clarification on the motion? Does that include all staff that's required? >> No. >> Okay, cuz I only heard >> No, I said five campus supervisors. >> Yes,
149that's why I'm asking cuz we have we need more than five campus >> Do you Do you guys want to make an amendment and add everything that he's requesting? Cuz if that's the case, I can reword my motion. >> I I would I would go that way. >> So, pretty much with John's recommendation. >> We're going to do it, do it right. We're in, we're all in. Yeah. You know. If we're going to do it, yeah. It's all about the kids. At this point. >> Okay. I I'd like to resend my original motion and make a motion to accept Mr. Hannan's proposal five eight-hour campus supervisors or excuse me, it says five campus security. Am I reading >> Five eight-hour campus security. >> Five eight-hour campus supervisors. When uh well, covering all the staff, 15
150one-hour clerical support, two What else am I missing? >> That's all. >> And that's all. So, that covers everything? >> The system and that, yes, that's it. >> Okay. Is there a second? >> Before I second, this is your baby, Mr. Hannan. Take care of it. >> [laughter] >> Is this the second count on me? Trustee Anaya seconds it. I'm going to call for the vote. >> [clears throat] >> I already voted before you. >> Yes, go ahead. Yeah, now it says discussion regarding implementation. I think it's like back to the original. >> You have to even bargain with the union here. >> Union here. >> Or just union direction. >> No, I just want to buy it. >> Make study. >> The motion. >> No. No. The motion I made is to purchase it.
151>> Okay. Well, this request this gives them direction on how to move funds. Any negotiations with this with the bargaining unit? So, so all we're doing is giving direction that this is where we want to move, but they can then I know exactly how that conversation >> [laughter] >> Okay. We can say yes. Okay. Please vote. Well, please vote. Yes. >> Okay. >> Well, okay. So, John, don't take this personal as usual. As you I mean, you don't usually say Maybe I feel like Why do I need to go to across the country to learn anything now when you're not willing to wait for me to go learn? Why do I even need to go >> So, I think it would save the district some money. >> Okay. >> Tony, you don't [clears throat] >>
152I've already done that. >> Tony, we're waiting for your votes. >> 15.23, one day or one opposed, and four in favor. >> Thank you. 16.1 curriculum approval of the 2026-2027 local control accountability plan local indicator self-reflection results. 16.2 revised college prep elective dual enrollment course site C1000 introduction to psychology formerly known as intro to psychology DE site 101 pending A-G approval. 16.3 revised college prep elective dual enrollment course title site C1000 introduction to psychology formerly known as intro to psychology DE site 101. 16.4 revised English course creative writing meets A-G requirement DE. 16.5 curriculum revised English dual enrollment course English C1000 academic reading and writing formerly known as college freshman comp pending A-G approval. 16.6 curriculum revised English dual enrollment course English I excuse me critical thinking and writing formerly known as critical thinking and
153writing pending A-G approval. 16.7 curriculum revised mathematics dual enrollment course math 105 college algebra formerly known as college algebra pending A-G approval. 16.8 revised mathematics dual enrollment course math 110 precalculus formerly known as precalculus pending A-G approval. 16.9 revised physical education course fitness walking does not meet A-G requirement. 16.10 curriculum new college prep elective course ASB Renaissance pending A-G approval. 16.11 curriculum new mathematics course accelerated math 7. 16.12 curriculum new mathematics dual enrollment course math 1402 DE pending A-G [clears throat] approval. 16.13 new mathematics dual dual enrollment course math 1403 DE pending A-G approval. 16.14 business revolving cash report May 2026. 16.15 board policies students series 5000. 17.1 close session is if necessary. Do we need to go? >> No. >> And then we go to 19.1? >> Yes. >> Discipline board review of discipline
154matters. Do I have a motion? >> So >> Second. >> Okay, Trustee Hall and Trustee Naya. Thank you. Any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. >> Yes, Delay. >> Yes. >> I got 16 more months. >> Oh yeah. >> I'm going to catch up. >> 15 >> I'm on my last 15. >> [clears throat] >> Should we take a break till it catches up? Here we go. >> I'll catch up. >> I called for the vote. Uh the motion was Trustee Hall and then Trustee Naya. >> 16 >> It's okay. >> This is information, right? This isn't an action item. >> This is an action item. We are taking a vote. It's a motion. >> Okay, so switch back up. >> Okay, cuz it doesn't say on the paper? >> Well, no. I I didn't realize
155that we went from action to information back to action. >> Yeah. 19.1, please vote. 19.1 passes 5-0. 19.2 discipline reinstatement of student discipline matters. Do I have a motion? >> So >> Trustee Hall >> Second. >> Trustee >> Stafford? Any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. Mr. Hall, did you vote? Oh, never mind. It popped up. 9.2 passes 5-0. Item 20.1, other items by the superintendent. >> Thank you, Trustee Messina. Yes, [clears throat] pretty soon. I took some minutes to share with you with the big picture related to the faces. And if you remember, page number one was about the safety of our students. So, I wanted to take to take this opportunity to say to say thank you for making the decision and providing the direction to move forward to ensure in an even better
156way the safety of our students and our staff at the sites. There is no price that we can pay in order to do that. So, we are going to do everything that we can to maximize the use of the money of our taxpayers on the implementation of this plan without sacrificing the quality and the of of the safety of for our students. So, thank you. Thank you so much for for doing that. And we are going to move forward and I think uh uh based on the results of the survey of our community, what of to some to some degree. [clears throat] And the reason that I'm saying thank you so much is because we don't want to wait until something happen. Because I assure you something, something happened the next day we were going
157to be here seeing what are we going to do to ensure the safety of our students as well. If we can. So, thank you for being part. >> Thank you. I'm 21.1. Other items by the Board of Trustees. Trustee Campos. >> Um you know what? And I didn't say it earlier, but I just wanted to thank the class of 2026. I I didn't get to attend that the graduations this year, but I'm glad that they're kind of off and flying and excited about it. So, they're they're off on their adventures. And I you know, I think ultimately in a decisions like this, you know, they're they're important and and and I I hope people don't think that we never didn't consider that. It's just there's always you know, it would be wrong to say that
158every other district that doesn't have a system is doing the wrong thing because they they're like us. They're human. They're they're staff, they're parents, they're everything. And they are doing the same thing, but because they don't have a system, you know, I don't think makes them less at a district. So, I think this pertains to us and it's what we decided to do. Um but at the same time, you know, if it would have gone the other way, it would have been you know, it's one of those things that you kind of and nobody ever wants, you know, to deal with the tragedy. You know, that's why insurance companies are so profitable. You know, that's the whole risk and reward. So, you know, at this point obviously we're given the direction that way. Moving forward,
159we'll see how everything comes out and we'll and we'll we from there. And worst comes to worst, you know? Make an initial expense, doesn't work out, that's fine, we'll figure it out, and then move forward. So, outside of that, everybody have a great summer, enjoy your time off, for those of you who have it, uh just get ready for the upcoming school year. So, thank you. Trustee Hall. >> Yeah, I just want to thank everyone for staying late, and I'm glad you guys got some snacks back there. >> [laughter] >> Uh just yeah, have a great summer. Uh be with your families, have fun, and uh we'll talk to you guys uh next year or two. >> Thank you, Trustee Stafford. >> Okay, yeah, I just want to say thank you for listening to us
160and go back and forth, but that's what we do. Um so, let's move forward and have a great summer, everybody. >> Thank you, Trustee Naya. >> Have a great summer, everybody. Enjoy your I You guys don't get summer off, huh? Sorry. Do your kids summer night school? You eat the lots of food. >> [laughter] >> And myself, thank you to everybody, and I hope you have a great summer, get some relaxation, enjoy some beach weather. And yeah, see you uh real soon. Item 22.2, adjournment of regular meeting of the Board of Trustees for June 17th, 2026. Do I have a motion? >> So moved. Thank you, Trustee Stafford. Is there a second? >> Second. Second. >> Thank you. Thank you, Trustee Hall. Any discussion? Seeing none, please vote. Item 22.2 passes 5-0, and this meeting
161is adjourned at 8:31 p.m. Good night, everyone.