Board of Education Regular Meeting October 14, 2025

001Well, the hour and then at 9:20 that next hour Yeah, I mean we're just in a unique spot because we don't have a gauge up river there is no stream up and the only monitor is downream and so by the time that is saying oh it's 7500 there's it's under thousands of CFS you know still >> yeah it's just it's just a GS where that gauge is. >> Do you know if those gauges are just automated? It's feeding data straight onto their website. >> I don't know. They have a little blurb on there right now that says due to the government shutdown, it's delayed. And so I don't know if there was somebody before doing it or they just want to say >> like an hour. >> Yeah, it's not as real time as it

002could be. It'll work best for Butch if you hold the microphone right up to your mouth when you're speaking and he'll be able to hear us. So will everyone else on there. Not naming names. I'm just saying we should all do the practice. Move your mouth up to the microphone. Well, we we are all in attendance, so we'll start right on time. >> We're ready, sir. >> All right. All right. We'll call the October meeting of the Archer School District to order and we'll begin with with the roll call. >> Mr. Iverson here, >> Mr. Lynch here, >> Mr. Mackey >> here, >> Mrs. Shik here, and Mr. Taylor >> here. >> Good to see you there, Mr. Mackey. Glad you made the effort to be with us even while out of town. >> Mr.

003Mackey, can you state your location, please, for the record? >> I'm in Colorado Springs, Colorado. >> Thank you. >> Solar system. We'll open with the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible liberty and justice for all. All right, we have an agenda that's been posted to appropriately and uh that would need a motion to approve the agenda or amend it if you see that. >> Mr. President, I'll make a motion that we approve the agenda as presented with chance of moving things around if we need to to accommodate folks and maybe insert a special celebration. >> I have a motion. Do I have a second? >> I'll second it. >> Any discussion? Mr. Iverson. >> Hi.

004>> Mr. Lynch. >> Hi. >> Mr. Mackey. >> Hi. >> Mrs. Shik. >> Hi. >> And Mr. Taylor. >> Hi. >> Motion carries. So, we have an agenda. Moving forward. We need to approve the minutes of the September 9th regular meeting. The minutes are there. I I did miss that meeting so I won't vote on that. But we need a motion to approve or amend the minutes of September 9th. Any comments? Maintain any additions or amendments? >> Mr. President, there is a I will get Michul with you. There's one minor uh very minor uh correction that needs to be made about answering the call, but otherwise the minutes are good and I'll make a motion that we approve them with that uh the little correction I'll make with you later. >> Is there a motion

005with a correction attached to a second? >> A second. Any discussion? >> All right. Mr. Harson, >> I wasn't there for that one. >> Mr. and Mr. Mackis. >> Hi. >> Mrs. Shik. >> Hi. >> And Mr. Taylor. >> Hi. >> Barely carries. All right. And now we have the consent agenda with the normal. It's all listed there with hirings, regations, transfers, substitutes, coaching assignments, as well as September claims. And then there's a under administrative content, there's approval for the FFA approved to make a trip that's included in that agenda. So I take a motion unless there's anything you want to pull out and discuss separately. >> Mr. President, I had a comment that I think I read in there, a letter from the FFA that the kids from BGOSA are the going to represent

006for Colorado, the sole representative at this national convention. So, I'm just >> very happy for that. >> Otherwise, I'm roll here. Uh I will move that we uh approve the consent agenda as we have seen it and with the the claims in the national convention if that needs to be that's included in there. Uh the other is just aformational letter I think so as presented with with the two additional items. Have a motion. We need a second. I'll >> second. Any discussion? >> Mr. Iverson. >> Hi. >> Mr. Lynch. >> Hi. >> Mr. Mackey. >> Hi. >> Mrs. Shik. >> Hi. >> And Mr. Taylor. >> Hi. >> Motion carries. So the consent item agenda items pass. And now we'll move to the public comment portion of the meeting. Anybody signed up? >> I believe

007we just had Mr. Hudson. The board welcomes the comments of our community members, but to ensure that everyone will have the opportunity to participate, we have a few ground rules we ask you to follow. Anyone intending to address the board shall sign the speaker sign-in sheet at the front of the boardroom. Speakers will be called in the order in which they are listed on the sign-in sheet. Speakers comments are limited to three minutes with a total time of 30 minutes. To be respectful of everyone's time, we ask that you cover only points not previously made. The board will listen carefully to your comments but are not able to respond during this time. While we cannot limit individuals constitutional rights to express themselves, we al we also remind speakers that you are each responsible for your

008own speech. In order to respect all persons when addressing the board, we request that the speaker is address issues rather than people. The board will listen with respect and ask those who address the board to speak in a respectful manner. >> Okay. Thank thanks for that warning. Um so I come before you because I believe the schools use the sanitation system in the town. Um, we are uh we're going to have an election uh in November for town residents and uh I brought three signs here. So, anyone who is lives in a place where town voters would would drive by and see that that you're supporting this this ballot measure, um please see me uh at any point and I'll be glad to give you one of these signs. Um, >> anything else? >> Also,

009um, at our last board meeting for the charter school, BPOS, um, we had a brief discussion about the, uh, the potential for for a a district-wide election. Um, and we would love to as a board meet with you as a board and and share ideas about how how we want to move forward together on something that affects both of us. I want to thank Rick at the second meeting of the impact. he announced that that that PBOS would be considered as we move forward uh if there if there is a bond measure or or whatever measure uh happens. Um so so my board would really like to set up a time if if you're amendable to that. Um maybe a lunch meeting or something when everybody's available. uh not not an extended meeting, but just

010to share some ideas and and concerns that we have as a board. So, um if that sounds like something you'd like to do, I guess you just tell Rick and and he can get in touch with us about when that could happen. >> Without confirming with everyone, I'm sure we're totally open. We'd like to have that discussion. We're in the middle of it all. So, yeah, we'll we'll work to set something up in the near future. >> Okay. Thank you so much. >> Yeah. We al also have 2A on our agenda. >> You do? >> Tonight. >> Oh, >> we do. >> Okay. I look at the agenda here. >> I am so happy to hear it. >> Anyway, look me up if you >> want. Yeah. The sewer line breaking at First Street sort

011of also is just another of many exclamation points that say there's some issues there at the infrastructure. Yeah. Thank you, Bill. Any other public comments? Yeah, >> I wonder if we might just pause a second though uh so Tim can recognize uh you President Lynch >> and one of our distinguished board members who >> thank you Mr. Hull. Uh for those who don't know uh the this board of education unanimously uh wanted to uh nominate President Lynch for what is called a McGuffy award from the Colorado Association of School Boards and we always say CASBY for that and that was you know greeted with cheers and everything and so we did submit that nomination and the state board the state CASBY board did agree to that and so Bob was awarded the McGuffy award and

012the way they have it is the Casby McGuffy award and I don't know who obviously somebody McGuffy I don't know the history of that uh the award honors unique board members who bring committed and passionate service to their board work and I think the board our local board definitely agreed that you fulfill that criteria quite well and we just want to congratulate on the award but not just that I mean the reason we want to congratulate you is for your lengthy and absolutely dedicate service to the school district and in that regard. >> Thank Thank you very much. Thank you. That was a surprise. I appreciate that. It's a pleasure to be able to work doing this work with dedicated people. So, thank you dedicated. Thank you. >> All right. Appreciate that. We'll move we'll

013move right along. All right, we have a discussion item with uh an action later, but we'll start with the discussion item with Bill Pagosa is here and going to update us on progress. Bill Pagosa has been a incredible partner for years already and um at a big significant stage now to talk about next step. So with that, Will, are you ready? >> I'm ready. All right. Thank you. Uh Butch, can you hear me? Okay. >> Yes, I hear you fine. >> Okay. Well, uh hi everyone. It's been about a year since I was last in here uh presenting with you. I was seeing in my calendar that it was October of last year that we came in and gave an update about Build Pagosa. Uh so we're really excited to be here. Uh quite a

014few of us again today. It's been a really big uh exciting year for us. And uh so as Bob mentioned, we're kind of at a a a turning point in the the kind of progress that we're making and we want to make sure that we are really open with with you guys as our main kind of stakeholder and counterpart and the the main organization that we try to support. So uh thanks for taking the time and adding us to the agenda. I want to note that I'm joined by uh both Bill Pagosa and Community Development Corporation uh friends here, board members and and and employees. uh these are kind of our our core people and wanted to be here to to be a part of this conversation and listen in. Um so yeah can control

015the slides if you just tell me what's >> um so I I want to briefly talk through I think you guys are probably pretty familiar with this stuff. So I want to talk about what CTE is right now at Pagosa Springs High School. what our partnership as built pagosa contributes to that and then what the kind of collective vision of the school district built pagosa and many others is to expand that work. Uh so over the last 10 years you the school district has committed significantly to expanding these programs and has gone from just a few teach uh just I think two teachers to now five uh that are delivering a a litany of really important really high demand popular great courses that are uh extremely meaningful for an important demographic of of high school

016students. Uh you know those classes I hope that you've been in those facilities and gone and seen them. They're they're super inspiring and fun to be around. Um if you go talk to those folks uh that are teaching uh Mr. all those teachers space and teacher retention are the top priorities coming from them. And so we echo uh those sentiments as supporters and champions of theirs. Uh and and I want to underpin that uh the demand for their programs outstrips what they're able to get. this weight list for lots of those courses and that demand maybe has always been there but you guys as a school district has have fostered that and grown that uh and the community supports that significantly. Uh so next slide please Rick. What has Build Pagosa been doing? I think

017you guys are pretty familiar with us as an organization. We've been it's been nine years now that Built Pagosa has been chipping away at building these programs with you guys. Uh and our goal is about meaningful, fun, good educational experiences for for high school students and beyond and connecting those educational experiences with economic development and jobs. So we see ourselves as doing both of those things and they're both ex equally important uh at the school level. What that has looked like is grants for CTE teachers. So we support once they go over their uh budget from from you guys, we support them in kind of not letting budget uh hinder their vision for what their classes could be. We give scholarships to students. We support field trips and events. We generate community interest uh and

018we have connections to CDC program internships and training opportunities uh beyond what is available and and appropriate at the high school level. Uh, I will say on that last uh on community engagement, we had over 250 people at our uh auction this year and and raised $100,000 from just community donations. Uh, and that I think demonstrates that lots of people care about this work. Uh, your constituents, we the taxpayers, I think, show up for this. So that's that's important for us. Um, next slide. So there's opportunity for growth. You know that we have been supporting the teachers and also dreaming about additional facilities uh for the CTE programs. So with you guys hand in hand, we've been thinking and and and fundraising and generating the support uh needed to for the uh additional space for

019large dedicated building trades and wood shop facilities uh purposefully built but still flexible classroom space and the ability to greatly expand existing CTE classrooms. So I want to talk through a few examples of what that is going to look like in what we have dubbed the regional workforce center. Uh though I think that name is could still be changed. We've just said it so many times that there's inertia in naming something. Uh next slide, Rick. Uh the regional workforce center as it is uh envisioned now will be over 10,000 square feet of dedicated CTE space for Pagosa Springs High School students. uh and because of the way that our uh agreement has been structured, Bill Pagosa will be able to administer that space after hours and on the weekends for postsecary uh credentials and training

020opportunities. Uh and we want that space to be well aligned with other community stakeholders, namely the CDC who does apprenticeships and internships so that we can make that connection between what you guys are doing and jobs as explicit as possible. Uh next slide. Uh so I'm going to talk through quickly four examples of why this building is going to have a significant impact on existing classes. Uh one of those is building trades and wood shop. Uh you guys have probably been back in the building trades classroom. It's cramped. Uh this is a a photo from students using pretty much every square inch of that uh space. It's really challenging pedagogically to work back there. Uh, and then they go out into the yard, which needs to be shoveled all winter when it snows. Uh, and

021so right off the bat, we'll have really large dedicated state-of-the-art building trades and wood chop space. That's kind of the core of what building was envisioned to help do. Uh, next next slide. When you get that building trades out of the space that it's currently in, there's currently a classroom and kind of a a an applied space back there. you free that up for additional space that uh Mr. Taylor is already dreaming about what an engine lab and an electrical lab would look like. To have a proper engine and electrical lab, you can't just be doing it in the shop because it gets dirty and and you're constantly trying to clean parts that are very technical and hard to clean. So, that can expand and all of a sudden two classes have expanded. Uh next,

022uh Mr. Urban is currently pushing a cart around the high school and moving from classroom to classroom for the health sciences class. Uh that works. He's making that work. He's an excellent teacher. And uh but we could give him dedicated uh space that would have the the functionality that a health science classroom needs like sinks and suction and other kind of simple but important things that that he needs. And also a teacher that gets to be in one classroom instead of three or four uh greatly improves his morale. And and speaking of teacher retention uh so so now we're talking about three of these classes. Uh next then I uh I want to talk briefly too about the vision for community the community development corporation with us. Uh we dream uh of having a CDC

023office in the regional workforce center. These are the people that are doing economic development and creating jobs and connecting students with jobs. Uh and so what better way to do that than to have them right there where career and technical education is happening. Uh Emily is now on Build Pagosa's board and we are working really really closely. She's their executive director and Cat's with us here today. So we are uh kind of bringing the different parties together and the the building will spatially do that as well in a way that's uh really exciting. And then after hours, we want to use that building to give post-secary credentials. The the curriculum dream is to connect those to the CTE pathways at the high school. So that if you graduate through the building trades program, there's a

024building trades related uh sec postsecary credential waiting for you in our town that you don't have to go to make us for. Uh and same with health and and maybe two or three of those to start. Um so that's some after hours stuff there. Um so what money do we have for this? We have raised uh over $4 million now for this uh which has been an extraordinary effort from many different people over years of work. Uh 2.5 or so million dollars of that is from generous community members and grants from local foundations philanthropies. That is a remarkable showing of support from the community over years that we have now been uh I don't want to say sitting on but kind of collecting and building momentum with. There are a few individuals that have given

025really big sums. There are many hundreds of individuals who have given hundreds or or thousands over the last few years. Um you already probably know Hickinlooper and Bennett uh put an earark in last year and we got a million dollars from the Senate. Uh, and the town of Pagosa Springs secured $600,000 through a community development block grant. We think this is uh going to need another million dollars or so, and we are out there doing our darnest to dredge that up. Uh, we're having support from foundations, support from individuals, and we're doing kind of last mile fundraising now to get to the amount of money that we need to have to finish the building fundraising. That said, we can't just sit on $4.5 million forever. People have generously given that money and it's not responsible

026or ethical to do that. So, we are moving forward uh uh to keep the project going and to establish credibility to get that last mile fundraising as well. Um so, uh at this point I just want to kind of pause and briefly mention years ago now I don't probably quite a few people here weren't on the board. I wasn't at at Build Pigosa. There was a basically handshake memorandum of understanding that said POSOSA has the vision of this facility adding this space. Archelleta school district has the vision of this facility of adding this space and of augmenting the CTE capacity. You have demonstrated good faith by investing in those classes and I think we have demonstrated good faith by fundraising hard and and getting community engagement for this. Uh so uh the terms of those

027are kind of outdated. In fact, it kind of lapsed in 2023. So, we need to think about what that agreement and kind of mutual support looks like in concrete terms moving forward. But we hope that the intention of mutually wanting to expand CTE programs and make those bigger and safer and better classes uh remains. Uh and then the details of kind of how we uh proportionately pay for things like maintenance and and so on. uh we we need to kind of revisit the specificities of that before any kind of progress happens moving forward. So can so pin that in the back of your head uh while I keep going through just a few more slides. Um I want to talk about what our financial plan looks like after the doors swing open on a building.

028Uh we want to hire one uh staff member uh and that's probably some sort of program officer that serves as someone that coordinates the use of the building specifically for Build Pagosa after hours and also uh if we could find the dream person that kind of serves as a CTE counselor to help connect students with the work that's happening at the CDC and elsewhere. Uh we think there's an agreement out there where the school district and Bill Pagosa proportionately pay for the upkeep of this new building including maintenance and custodial and things like that. So we're in good faith wanting to have that conversation about what that would look like. Uh and and I think working that out bilaterally with Rick is probably the way to do it. Uh we as build Pagosa also have

029agreed to invest the equipment, the supplies, scholarships and other expenses to support Pagosa Springs High School in the way that we already have been doing. So they don't intend to stop that. Uh and to offer those postsecondary credentials I've talked about. Uh we also want to keep part-time for ourselves grant grant writers and office managers just to keep our own organization alive. We do do work beyond working with the high school teachers. That kind of takes coordination and we both bring in and spend money. Uh and so we need to have those facilities as well. We could give you kind of what we think that would look like with the amount of money we have. Now in ter more specific terms if you want to see under the hood of our organization, our 501c3, we're

030happy to be give you whatever details you're interested in with that. Uh also lastly, our board has been our volunteers. All all three all four of us are volunteers. Everything that has been done has been done by volunteers and we are committed to continuing that work. Uh so I think we've demonstrated that commitment and hopefully that uh earns some credibility as well. Um so I want to talk about the urgency of moving forward. Uh the Adolf Kors Foundation has come to the table as a significant supporter of Archeletta County's art economic development through uh what they call a challenge grant to us. They've given us a4 million dollars for the building, but then really importantly, they said, "We want to make sure that you guys as a nonprofit and as a school do really well

031when the doors swing open. And so we want to give you $200,000 a year unrestricted as operational expenses for the first few years of this building being open uh with the opportunity to come back to them uh and discuss what that could look like longer term. Uh this is a huge deal for a nonprofit to have financial security for three years into the future is pretty rare. Uh that's a long runway. And I'll also say that we have pretty secure funding above and beyond that. So, uh, based on our kind of consistent donors, we have $350,000 a year secured for those three years, uh, after the building opens, if we are able to raise the money, uh, to build the building and and and open it. Uh, so that is a sense of urgency and

032has certainly lit a fire under us. Uh, no doubt. Um so uh in practical terms moving this forward has looked like procuring an architectural firm. Uh theou laid out that after we raised 50% of the funds uh we would move forward with the district and and find an appropriate architectural firm. Pigosa facilitated that uh through a well doumented uh uh kind of federal audit compliant procurement process that followed our own set of rules. We brought on uh five committee members that represented the the school district. So Rick was on the selection committee uh as well as two of us from Built Pagosa, Emily from the Community Development Corporation uh and Greg Schulty who's a a former town employee uh and we followed a system where we developed a rubric. We independently ranked architects who responded

033to our request for qualifications and we interviewed the top three of those firms and we entered into negotiation with the winning firm who was a firm called Oz who has a team that does uh specifically CTE education really remarkable portfolio of CTE buildings around Colorado in the region. Uh so so super exciting. uh and we now have kind of put them on pause while we wait to have a conversation with you about making sure that we're all on the same page uh as we move forward. Um, so I know I've talked for a while here, uh, but our proposal to you today to prompt discussion, uh, is that you guys' support to to build Pagosa in this process and to the regional workforce center is the contribution of the design and architectural fees ahead of

034Build Pagosa uh, building this building. So that was kind of a a a long time ago handshake that that I think is now a conversation that needs to be renewed in practical terms uh because we have selected an architectural firm. We have the money in the bank ourselves uh to to move forward with the project and we have this kind of uh really significant challenge grant that's pushing us to to to move forward. Um, so there is I think Rick will talk about and Eric there are funds that are earmarked for CTE facilities. I think have been sitting in an account for about a decade, although I'll leave the details to you guys for that. Uh, and then the architectural firm uh will cost about $420,000. That's all in uh for the $6 million project,

035which is about the same range that all three finalists gave us, 5 to 7% of the total cost of the project. Um so that's above and beyond what's earmarked. Uh our request and proposal would be that the funds that are allocated for this in your budget are are released uh quite immediately because they're there and they're here for this, but that we build Pagosa have funds available to move this project forward. And so if if you guys were in a position to support this project by covering the architectural fees, we could make reimbursement an option whenever it was convenient and appropriate for you guys in the budget. So we could cover uh as much of it as you guys wanted us to and then send you an invoice down the road when it when it

036made sense for you when you got taxes. I don't know. That's a conversation for you guys. Um, but I want to just note that we are extremely flexible and we want to make this as easy as possible. Um, so that's my presentation. I might have spent more time, but uh it's been a really big couple of years for us and we're moving forward with this project. We hope. Uh, and we we want you guys to be there with us. It's a project for high school students and that's that's you guys. So, thank you. Should I should I stay up here to take questions? stay there and u we'll just anyone on the board in whatever order just come back to me just open to question who wants to start >> uh I think it said

037what's the specific target there on that that one grant or said kick off the project or something by next year >> yeah so they want to see that we have uh uh the funds to move the project forward by June 1st. >> So, uh they will distribute that quarter million dollars that's for the building on that date. Uh and we have to demonstrate that we're actually going to do the project. So, because we're say either a million or a million and a half depending on the building we design uh away, uh we we are confident that we'll raise that and and that that we can't raise. Uh we have kind of a plan for a subsidized liability that we would want to talk to you guys about how comfortable we all are about that. We

038have a lead on on the fundraising. It's a lot easier to raise the last million and a half than the first million and a half which took six years. Uh and since six years it's been two years and we've raised those $3 million. Uh so it is speeding up. Uh the course foundation is also helping us to connect with other foundations many of whom have already supported us. Bennett King uh uh Gates uh Omar >> Venture we want to go back to those guys and say it's time to come to the table in a bigger way. They've been generous but uh that's that's our job at Build Pagosa for the next maybe say four months. We'd like to hit that target. uh that was our end of the bargain and and it's not been easy

039to raise that amount of money and I don't expect it will uh magically appear between here and there but we're working on it. >> Go ahead question. So is that you get the architecture on here soonish and then they're more or less done by that point in time and you have that kind of a thought on the timeline. >> Yes. And there's also some kind of cheeky fundraising uh uh hidden agenda here, right? Because when you get an architectural firm in, they've been through this with public infrastructure before. So, we want to start with really nice schematics of what this building's going to look like, including like 3D flythroughs of the building and then use that as kind of last mile fundraising material as well. Also, we have done back of the envelope estimates on

040the cost of this building. We have not designed it architecturally and until you do and and have a professional cost estimate uh we've been we're stuck at back of the envelope. >> Um I guess are you I think my thoughts are in a lot of different places. So, first and foremost, I want to say that I truly believe um in Bill Fugosa and what you guys and the CT connection. I completely Sorry about that. >> I absolutely support um the vision of what uh Build Pagosa and our um CTE program are. I think that it is the potential for an economic lifeline honestly for here in Pagosa. I think that it allows our kids and our families to not just like stay and work in Pagosa if they choose to, but thrive in Pagosa. So,

041I can see where this is going to be such a a wonderful addition to who we are as a community. I came onto the board prior or after all of this was um you know kind of in in the works. So there were handshakes taking place and I think it's taken me probably the longest to really come around and understand um its purpose in the connection to our school and I think that's important to talk about a little bit is that it's not just this adult piece and workforce piece but really how it does connect to the volunteers here on this board who come back and say how are we committed to our students in the school. So, you know, related to the jobs, I mean, Department of Labor and their long-term projections, you are

042looking at healthcare, tech, and probably, you know, construction in some way, engineering, something trades, that's the word. Um, and so I definitely think that that is good. What I guess I'm confused now on, and I would just like more clarity, is how much money are you asking for? because I'm hearing different figures or I'm maybe not clarifying on that. So, I hear like a $420,000 ask. I'm hearing that plus another ask to be released immediately, but I don't know what that figure is. So, I think maybe either I'm confused or would like clarity on that last slide. Um, that was kind of the due to the maybe the June 1st. So, forgive the needing to walk it back a little bit, but there was a lot going on with immediate release 420, 6 million, 2.5

043million, and so if that could get a little clarified, I'd appreciate that. Yeah, Rick, can I can I take that one or do you want to >> Yeah, I just wanted to clarify about we were kind of you were spitballing I think about how much is in that Hughes uh grant that that that we have set aside that fund and I would just confer that it's $177,000 and that my understanding is that's part of the uh yeah you know four 420 that's the this ask >> that's correct. Yeah, the the the architectural firm has quoted us 420,000 for the design uh engineering and architectural uh and of that uh we think that the 177 sitting in that Hughes donated account should be allocated and we also would like to ask your support to cover the

044design and architectural. So, so we're asking for 420 and we're suggesting that 177 of that could come from this earmarked account. uh and that that could be released earlier because it's it's as I understand it in that accountable. >> Uh then aside from that, we are trying to raise $6 million and we have 4.5 right now. If in April we have five, we as an adult built Pagosa and Archa School District have to think about do we want to take a $500,000 loan or do we want to scale the design back a little bit? We need to be we need to be having that conversation now. I mean, we're getting to the end of this fundraising project. Uh, and think about how how we as Bill Pagosa can continue to generate funds to pay for

045that. Uh, so that's the kind of last mile fundraising that I've been referring to and we're confident that people are going to come to the plate uh, and help us get across and people have consistently done that for us. Uh, so yeah, I hope that clarifies. >> Go ahead. Anything else you want? >> Okay. Um >> yeah, sorry. Couldn't let me go to share on the screen question for you. >> But can you can you hear me? >> Yes, I can hear you. >> Yeah. Do you have a question you'd like to ask Will? >> Uh I've already spoken with him. I think I understand the process and the dollars involved and I think we need to do whatever we can to to push it over the finish line. >> Thanks, Butch. >> Yeah, thank

046you. >> Yeah. Y >> So, this is really for Rick, I think. So that that's so this has been clarifications and thank you 177 we're finally going to use that use money that's been around for a while and I could I didn't remember I'm just getting refresh that we had done that um before but has there been an ongoing contribution that we have that in our budget every year to throw additional money in I don't think so okay so that's 177 that's sitting there that we have it's not we don't have another kitty that we've been saving for a couple of years or true. Okay, that was just a a clarifying question and that that was my main ask. So for the 420 we have 40% of it sitting in large. >> That's correct. >>

047Can we get this slide up that has the schematic the one schematic of the >> kind of color coded >> here? Yeah. Rick's the holder of that. I can send you more too. That was a part of uh the winning firm's proposal. They sent along kind of four or five ideas of how the flow of a building could work. Uh it's really cool. They they put quite a lot of thought into their proposal and this was one that stood out as kind of a a nice option because uh we think that really what the community could need is potentially a $12 million facility. And the way this is built is you could add on to it in a in a kind of clean way. >> That's what I wanted to clarify. So, well, I'll add

048my question, but to echo what's been said before, too. I I think you're remissed we didn't say at this big juncture, it's a big thank you to you guys for this incredible work that started I think in 2018. Yeah. >> 2017 the organization became a 501c3. >> Okay. And and we allocated land in maybe 2018. 2019 is when thisou was signed. Yeah. And so, you know, credit to you that you've stuck with it and we're here at this point and we're really talking about making it happen and because of all your work. So, thank you. Thank you for that. Um, what I was curious about with this was kind of matching that with uh when you were saying that the when the wood shop or or building trades as a building trades moves out, auto

049shop gets all that space. So, they're back in the high school in the old space. So, the building trades goes into that space and the health services goes into that space >> and that's I think that's all you said. Is that is that all we going to use that space for in the first phase other than >> you're referring to the pack building right now? The the the existing facility. >> I'm referring in the existing facility. You said that the auto shop would take over all of that. >> Yeah, I think you can see uh Mr. Taylor salivating over that space back there. He wants that >> building trades goes in the new place. >> Yes. >> And the health service services goes in the new place. And my question is, is that all we're

050talking about being in the next space? >> So, our vision right now is is that the the wood wood shop is very much a dedicated facility. You have to build a wood shop to be a wood shop. Uh it has specialized equipment. It needs to be really large and so on. We think that there's going to be budget for wood shop and then two or three flexible classroom spaces of which they are kind of designed flexibly in a thematic way. So let's imagine a health themed classroom, a dental assisting program is already exists in town and doesn't have great facility. They also need sinks and suction and the same things that Mr. Urban's health class does. So what we've envisioned in early conversations is a health kind of equipped flexible classroom where there's large closet

051space where Mr. Urban can roll out his stuff during the day and then he can roll it back into the classroom and the dental assisting school which is not high school students necessarily but we would facilitate rolls out their stuff in the evenings and on the weekends and that kind of shared space gives health teachers what they need while also I mean you could pop a different type of class into there and it's not so customuilt that if there's an emergent need in 10 years we couldn't shift that classroom those other classroom spaces I think we have to talk about where a goes and you know there's a couple other CGE classrooms and and what the best use of the existing pack building is hasn't been totally sorted out but that's a I keep looking

052at brick because >> so there's still some to be figured out on what else would go in there. >> Yeah. But we know that those two are are are urgent needs. Building trades needs more more room to be safe and health doesn't have a room at all right now. So those are pressing >> and and the machine shop and the shop itself needs to expand. >> Correct. and we're not capable of expanding it in in our current our current space. And then I think after that it's about program development because then we're talking about which other programs are in need of space like should the drones be flying in the cafet space, you know, or should they have be able to access this? What are other programs that we can we can put in there

053expand? And really it's like what can we imagine that we can be using this space that right now we haven't been able to imagine because we've just been limited on the on the area that we have. We did um two years ago a great strategic plan for the uh career and technical education program and we talked about how it would expand and what pathways want to follow and having this space is going to allow us to choose from those pathways what will be next and I believe that um the school's done a nice job of working with students to find out what's of high interest and we'll push for those areas first. We have huge waiting lists already. >> And to align that with what the Community Development Corporation tells us are the emerging economic

054needs in the community. They know a lot more about what jobs are out there than than we do and probably the district too. And so that partnership is really important in giving our kids the right classes that will lead to jobs. >> If we zoom back out for a second and say um we're on track to fulfill our part of the agreement because you've fulfilled your part of the agreement. you raised more than 50% funds and so on and so forth. So I think that's going to happen tonight. If you're looking right now, when do you anticipate breaking ground? We would like to do that this upcoming late spring summer. Uh we we we have this challenge grant. We intend to meet that challenge and to bring community members along. Uh and uh we we

055do not want to sit on generous uh taxpayer dollars. don uh community dollars and and we just we want to we we feel that we have too much money at the bank right now. It's time to turn around and spend it. >> That's a good problem to have. Right. So So breakground this spring would would that be could we anticipate maybe a 2027 fall opening? I getting ahead of the >> Am I going to get in trouble for saying yes to that? >> I mean, what are we what are we talking a year and a half? They'll just be wrong. >> I I think I think it's a year and a half or a two-year build. We we I mean this there's federal money involved in this. So, every dollar spent has to be compliant.

056Uh and we are all smart people that can make that happen. You guys have similar rules and regs you have to follow. Uh but but those are not the fastest dollars to spend. And so I want to be realistic and expectation management on timeline there. uh not it's not like the most complex building in the world >> pin you down and put you on the record I just for my own enthusiasm you want to kind of say so what are we thinking here typical 18month type >> I think an 18month timeline yeah and and it's not like I said it's not the most complicated building in the world the the wood shop can be a pretty large steel facility that we make look nice externally one of the things we heard in our design chet

057when we did this was that students want to feel proud of being in CTE classes so making this building look nice and be right in the front of the high school is important. Uh I think in changing the narrative on those classes a little bit. Uh but it's like not a huge crazy complicated building and so I think a year and a half is is realistic. >> Okay. So last question. Um, one thing I'm curious about seeing that maybe you know the whole community CDC has this data and stuff is you hear a lot of words and I say that gently lots of words saying there's all these trades out there we need there's going to be electricians there going to be plumbers there going to be you know air handling all these things I'd

058love to see the analysis of how many we think in all these different trades we're going to need here >> not nationally not Colorado, you know, Southwest Colorado because then and and and I just thought not to put you on the spot now, but just maybe give that to us sometime because I'd like to be able to answer that by someone who asks me more concretely than boy, you know, there's going to need to be a lot of electricians. Yeah. Like how many? At what levels and over what kind of time? And so what are we really talking about as the trades expand? But I think we can envision building trades somewhat clearly from just your eyeball out there. All the other things that go with that or what are all the other trades and

059what's our scoping of the size of that over the next 10 years? >> I well first of all we're really fortunate to have a CDC like we do Emily and Cat do amazing work and and I would defer to them in answering that question. But as a litmus test, the apprenticeship program that those guys run, I think is probably representative of the types of industries and that does cover trades, health, others, >> Broadband. Yeah. Uh and I think is is probably quite fast and demand driven. So as industry changes, the types of organizations that would participate in the apprenticeship program also will shift and adjust. And that's kind of a a bilateral mode of communicating with industry. Uh you guys know it's expensive and hard to survey and so it's a little bit hard to

060get like concrete data on that but I don't know. I >> you got something to go on. >> Yeah, >> we've got something to go on. Yes, we have to pull together. >> Great. Thank you. >> So those are all those are all my questions. Anything come to mind for anyone else? I mean, I guess I'm just wondering if it's on your thought at all that is there any consideration of like a CTE graduate requirement. >> There is one >> that you think that would be different and evolve um as this program became um you know tangible to kids because you know that the healthc care I'm going to stay on that I'm going to press that hard. I believe that that is very impactful not only to our community here but just where our

061kids could go. I mean we're still needing to have emphasis of writing and reading in within these type of career fields. So I'm just wanting to know about how that could be envisioned as well as like or maybe I just need to look back into it again to see if this goes in how will that maybe evolve to certificates to associates degrees and ensuring that you know put pulling it big together in the big picture but from a student perspective beyond just like you know the the community side of of Bill Pagosa and the trades and stuff. So just wanted to make sure that their experience here is anchored in education and that is differently perceived sometimes based on these pathways. But still wanting to make sure of what those graduation requirements maybe look like

062as this program develops and grows. >> I believe the graduation requirements in CT are pretty minimal right now, but that's largely due to the fact that students just don't have access to multiple multiple classes because they all have long waiting lists. So part of expanding it as a requirement would be creating more offerings. Something you said that I'm very passionate about is it has to be a both end. I never imagined that a CTE program would be kids who can read, write, and do math are going to college and other kids are doing CTE. It has to be both and for all of our kids. All of our kids, regardless of their hope, should be able to have a CTE experience and should be able to read, write, and do math at at a high

063level. Um, and that's going to give all of our kids the best opportunities uh, moving forward. So, I appreciate you saying that, bringing that up. Um, and I do think that, um, you're right in that we will want to explore as the program develops if we're going to say, oh, and a credential is required for graduation or you should finish a pathway, which is a series of three classes. We're not there yet, but if we're able to continue expand the program, I I very much could see that as something that be part of our graduation requirements. >> And I just have a one closing remark before I sit down. Uh Rick's sick of hearing me mimic this back, but when I first met Rick, he made a comment to me that was that CTE in

064Archeletta County is like uh we are all at a picnic, but nobody organized the picnic, so we all brought watermelon. Uh that's not the case anymore. Uh we are well aligned with you guys. We are well aligned with the community development corporation. We're well aligned with industry and we have partnerships emerging in postsecary education. I want you guys to feel proud of your contributions to that too. Uh we're building something grassroots pretty cool that doesn't happen in a ton of communities here. Uh and I I hope that we all get to feel good about that together. Uh so so thank you. >> Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. So with our um unless there's any other questions with our ability to move items around in our agenda that tempor rather than have you sway through a

065whole bunch of other content um we'll move the build the goa action item up to the agenda now and that's just asked that's delineated in the view where upon completion of 50% of the fundraising our school district would cover the cost the engineering architectural plan. And so, so if we had a motion to that effect with the release of like go with your idea, release the 177 initially, then we would ask that you hold off on billing us for the rest of the till the spring based on how tax revenues flow to the school. That would that's what I'd suggest be part of the part of the motion. That makes sense. Or should I make the motion? >> I think you should make the motion. >> It's it's it's the 177 now and then 250

066in March. >> March, April. Yeah. So I'll I'll move to approve the work that we've committed to with build and commit funds to complete the engineering and architectural plans for the upcoming CTE building with the provision that earmarked funds of $177,000 be released I won't say immediately say as soon as possible and that the remainder be held until spring and produce would would essentially invoice us for the remaining amounts up to not to exceed $420,000 total. >> That's motion. >> I'd second that. >> Any other discussion? >> So that that 242,000 where does that come from? >> Out of reserves. >> Out of the reserves. >> That's an important point to make. to less somebody think that we're reducing salaries or benefits or programming anyway. These are the dollars that are in reserves we largely

067are holding on to right now to help us with the cash flow situation which is why we're requesting a delay until April when taxes are collected and we're beyond that point where we're draining down a reserve to make um payroll >> and this this will this draw against our reserves will will not put us in violation of any requirements in the state in terms of the minimum reserves we need to have. No, >> I answer your question. >> It does. >> Okay. >> I am just wondering a little bit of um if Rick you could or Eric you could a little bit address the financial end of things. We are having in lot of conversations about the potential of money and taxes and asks and this and I want to be very clear that we

068have a lot of things that we are focused on right now as a district and the support of our student body and our community. And so I think it is important again to reiterate the financial piece of the 177 how that has been there where that additional 243 so that nobody is leaving this meeting believing that we are just handing out $420,000 in one conversation and then immediately asking another conversation of of that. And I think it's important to in this public meeting to be able to discuss that and at least get really specific. Um so again the 177 has been held in a savings that's a word I'm like a savings for quite some time correct specifically for the use of CT funds. The original donation I believe was in 2008 and it was

069forward developing the very beginning of the CTE program and to pay for salaries and supplies and things like that and then over time that money and I don't know the history of it other than that but that 177 that we're referring to has been in the college trust account specifically named under that huge donation and that money has just basically been earning interest for at least the last four years that Okay. And so the total of that right now based on the original donation is what we're talking about the 177. Correct. So that is come from a donation that has been earmarked specifically for this. >> Yes. Correct. >> Yep. And I appreciate that. So again, now we're looking at the $243,000. And so if you would have gone just going a little bit more

070into the narrative of uh that money the reserves and how again it is not or it is capable and we are not taking it from inappropriate places and it's well intended. I believe that I just want you to be able to speak a little more about that if you could. >> Yes. Uh each year that a school district is in operation they may over or under spend their budget. It's actually quite healthy to do either by about 2 and a.5%. Um for a number of years the district was underspending its budget and has built up a reserve over time which is actually very fortunate for us as we've discussed in this room the way the tax structure had saved for the town changed for the town with now uh the town supporting nearly 90% of

071the um uh per pupil funding. We um don't get much money from the state to start out with. So, at the beginning of the year, we get small uh sums of money do not make payroll. And so, we're actually able to dip into reserves, which is like our large savings account um to make to make payroll. And then in when we collect taxes in April that backfills those reserves, and we're back upholding our reserve. The reserve is sometimes called the rainy day fund, but we're actually restructuring our reserve to targeted areas, curriculum, transportation, and what you've been hearing about more recently is uh capital improvements and repairs. We've been spending money out of reserves pretty frequently to to to patch up what we have and and to move forward. And so this would be considered

072uh an investment in my mind, a capital expenditure because we're going to invest about 4% of the total of this $6 million at $2, you know, 43 or $50,000 is about 4% of the total cost of that building. So it's a huge return on investment for us. Um and we have the reserves that we we can absorb that. It's it's a good way that we are able to leverage funds and to thanking for the fundraising part and we access really our students access the benefit of those funds with this contribution that we're making. So I think it's a win all the way around and I appreciate you asking the question and clarifying further. That's a important point to get out there. question. I guess, you know, just just looking at the cash flow, right? You

073got um our low point at $3 million still of those funds in reserve, right? >> So, in my mind, that's where that comes out. >> Correct. >> If we stay on budget, you know, you still got three million of extra, I guess, or yeah, cushion. Never get touched. No, I want to reiterate that we are fiscally responsible, that we are focusing on and having open dialogue when it comes to hundreds of thousands of dollars, and that we're very specific and upfront about where the money comes from, what it has been purposed with. Um, because I think that that's what we get asked a lot about, and I don't want any misconceptions. So, I appreciate again just the ability to have these public conversations to ensure that we've asked and answered. Absolutely. Anything else? >> Yeah,

074I believe it. Not to belver it. I do want to dubtail in what President Munch says. I do have a question. The 177 is the what is remaining of that archive Hughes grant. Correct. So, it will be zeroed out after this. Just another clarification. There won't be anything left in that. And so, we put a zero in that. Um and so so my viewpoint is that you have fulfilled in the originalou certainly fulfilled your obligation and we want to help you with that. certainly on board with that. What I what I would like to request and and we can have a little more conversation before we take the vote if necessary is that and then President Munch kind of alluded to this that we actually get a report or um report is the wrong word

075but a look forward almost a business plan because we're going to be talking about CTE. should be very businesslike that is it is it possible for us I would like to see a business plan and I'll just call it that or report to this board of education on your outlook what your potential expenditures why you think it's going to cost about $6 million how you're going to make payroll after that who's responsible for making payroll for example the CT counselor the program officer um so so we don't have to belabor these questions that we receive something perhaps before We dedicate the remainder of the money to pay you back for the whatever is that 240 that you did calculations for. Thank you for doing the math. Um so that that's that's many months and no

076major pressure but I think it's reasonable that this board sees the business plan whatever you envision that is as thorough as possible. We know you can't see in a crystal ball, but that would be my viewpoint to see that before we release funds next spring for the remainder of it. Not pressure, just I think that's that's a good uh plan for me, at least in my head, six months out. >> That's the same way we're thinking about that. So, yes, absolutely. So let's let's amend the motion to say with a review of projected business plan for the facilities prior to the April release of the remaining funds. Is that fair? >> Thanks. >> Excellent. >> So we'll take that into so that the motion's been amended. Who seconded the motion? I guess I'll >> Are

077you good with that? >> I'll second the amendment. >> You have to second the amendment. >> I will do that. >> All right. So the motion has been amended and seconded and then any further discussion. So we'll take the vote on the amended motion. >> Mr. Iverson >> I >> Mr. Lynch >> I >> Mr. Mackey >> I >> Mrs. Shik >> I >> and Mr. T >> I motion carries >> for all your work. >> Thank you. Thanks. Thank you guys. That's outing. >> You're welcome to hang out for the rest of the meeting. >> Are you gonna talk about CTE? >> No. >> We're gonna move on to another discussion item. Thanks. >> Yeah. Thanks, Doug. Good to see you. >> Um there someone wants to buy some property from us. So, let's

078discuss that. Good. >> Yeah. But I I have a little couple of slides to help us out here. Um, we were uh approached by an individual who owns some property, and I'll show you where that is in a second, adjacent to the elementary school. It's an odd piece of land. You'll see when I look at it. Um, that individual is curious about buying buying it off of us. Um, and I thought at best that we agree that first we're interested, you're interested at all at selling off a small parcel before we start the big investigation into it because it's going to take a little bit little bit of work, not not a lot. Um, this is off the county's GIS system. Um, you can see I'm going to stand up, but this is the elementary

079school right here. These lines are a little bit shifted. It's just the way that system works. The lines are actually supposed to be a little bit closer to 160. That's right here. This is 10th Street. This white line that loops through here. And we actually own property on the other side of 10th Street at the base of that large hill. Um, another way of looking at it might be this might help. Um, it's it's not as big as the the the lines make it look. It's actually a little bit thinner piece of land. Um, and so this gentleman who actually owns the top of that hill could use this to help access access his property. And so he approached us. It's been more than a year now. He's been kind of waiting patiently as we've

080been going through the through the process of our master plan. And so I just wanted to pose a question to the board. um would it be acceptable, advisable or not to pursue selling off this this fraction of of the property? I suspect that would involve um a survey just to specifically identify the location and the size of the property, a third party assessor to determine the value of the land. I don't think we're talking about a very valuable piece of property. Um, and then I would want to come back to my proposal. I come back to the board with like the details of the sale, um, the cost that were incurred, the location, the value, all that. Um, before we commit to it right now, the the individual who is interested in the property said,

081you know, it turns out you guys really want to sell it. I'll pay all the costs for the things leading up to the sale. So, um, and if we get to that point and you guys say, "No, we just found out that it's super valuable to us and we don't want to get rid of it," then he asks that we just split the cost of exploring it for now. Um, and that might be negotiable with him as well. Uh, one thing that we did find out, I asked Eric to look into it. If we were to sell the property, um, those dollars have to be deposited into either capital reserve or be put towards buying down the bond into our bond project if we were to pursue a bond. Um, so just off the topic,

082comments, questions, questions, questions. >> I'm trying to get the GIS to come up. >> No, it's, you know, slow. I don't know why it's always it's shifted. We ran into the same thing with the RTA. It's like the lines don't land where they're supposed to be. And if you you can see in this picture, um, you know, they like cut through people's houses. city and I understand that 10th Street was supposed to be plotted straight. I just heard this the other day. Um but then that was somebody else from far far away who plotted where 10th Street should go. And then when they went to actually put it in, they were like, "Man, there's a giant hill in the way. 10th Street is not going over that hill." And so it went around the base

083of the hill and our property happens to come up to the base of the hill. So, I don't know what the agreement was between the town and and us about uh how the road is on our property, but that that's all stuff we'd want to explore and and figure out. Um should this be the right time? It may not be the right time. >> Yeah. I mean, it seems like we want to get through some more of our master plan before we get rid of anything. I am absolutely going to agree that I don't think that we could should engage in any conversations about this. We have other properties and things that we're focused on at this time. >> A question about the actual acreage. Is there an estimate of the acreage that we want

084to need a survey to tell us that? >> Yeah, my guess would just be a bad guess at that, but I'm thinking it's the neighborhood of a quarter of an acre. Okay. or or less as you said just a strip that goes parallels 10th Street for a ways are not just all >> yeah I think people park there right now when there's soccer games going on across you know I think that's that's it functional piece of property for us >> right so a person who wants to buy this is a resident who lives behind that or no they won't own part of it obviously they own that other part is that zoned >> as residential or is it >> resial It's not business any part of it. Not >> I don't know because it's a

085good question because Sarah is right there and I think that's maybe but my understanding it his purpose is residential. He has another property up uh in town as well. >> I just know that would be a minor confounder if the property this person owns is residential pretty clearly. I guess he should know that. I mean he should know that only a town it's either that way or not. it's commercial or it's residential as far as I know and that ours is in fact I wouldn't think it would be zoned residential if we own it. So I is it uh to is it a big hurdle to actually even sell the property to somebody and that that would have to be invest I these are all things that we would have to investigate. There was a

086piece of property behind uh the the double weather the district office that was for sale and at some point someone came around a petition to have it be reszoned. So I think there's there are that those things do happen sometimes. It's not my wheelhouse. Um um I too feel reluctant to dispose of any property just because we're just not there yet or where any school is going to go. But I looked it up on the GIS. You know, I know it's on a hill, but it also looked I wouldn't want to guess the acres either, but it looked close to the same width as the soccer field there almost. And things being what they are, I could sense being a little excavation if if we ever wanted to make that a an option. And maybe

087it will. There's option two options we're looking at now schools and there could be a third with an elementary school on the other end and a junior high down option three discussion. Well, then what I what I hear from the board is that I should uh relay to the individual that not yet maybe maybe later, but right now we're still in the thick of the master plan process. So, no. Great. >> And and you know, appreciate his patience and everything else, but you know, other than just being nice, it's just something he wants. We don't our duty to you know stewards of the school assets time. >> Thank you. >> All right. Very good. Thank you all. Um master plan update >> really fast. Uh the impact meeting is October 27th. Um we'll notice it

088so you can all attend. It's already noticed. I would encourage you to attend. and we're going to hear the initial feedback on the site analysis that we ordered. Um, I have not gotten an update recently other other than they're making progress on it. So, it'll be a bit of a reveal for all of us at that time. So, that's our that's our next critical step and it'll be right here. The goal of that meeting um is to get us close to deciding if we need more information before we make a decision or people feel like they're ready to advise the board. That's the purpose of the impact is to advise the board on a potential next step. You ultimately decide what you want to do. But um we're using the EMPAC as a sounding board

089to hear from a broader spectrum across the community. >> And that's October 27th. >> 27th and >> that's a Monday, right? Yes. It's a Monday and it starts at 5:30 and goes to 7. >> Is that right? >> 7:30. Yeah. Two hours. Yeah. 5:30 to 7:30 there will be food. >> The pizza was good last time. >> All right. So, we got the update. Thank you. Um have you Rick also talk about the federal forest service dollars the funds the feds give us generous because we don't have we have so much public land in our county >> but I mean I want to point out that you know given the current situation federal it does say dollar >> on the agenda maybe maybe it's just $1 decision one >> I I will do my best

090Eric probably has more precise numbers, but I'm going to use round round figures. Each year, um there's about $250,000 worth of federal dollars that come into town into the county specifically that are in lie of tax dollars because of the federal land owned within county boundaries. Um then the county decides if they're going to pass those through to to the schools or not. in the past they have passed those through and then we um share them proportionally with our schools which includes PPOS and then our schools. There was a time when um we were doing something other than that but we we changed that as a board to our operation is now to divy that school up. So uh divy those dollars up. What's interesting about this year is they haven't really showed up yet

091and so about 50,000 of the $250,000 was passed through and then it's our understanding that the county has not seen um the rest of it and so that's later and I thought it'd be appropriate to just let the board know that um while this would be typically something we would have to expect have expected to receive at this time we have not. I don't believe there's anything. I don't believe that the county is holding on to that money. Actually, if they do hold on to the money, they lose other money. So, it's really in their benefit to pass it through. We all we all win that way. Um and so we're still waiting for that. Is that fairly accurate? Dollar amounts. Yeah. Yes. >> No indication of when the rest of the funds that we

092typically get will come through as in what approximately 200,000. >> Yeah. >> And it's never failed before. >> Correct. >> Yeah. It is one of the things I just I did get hit up the other day to support which I do this. It has to be reauthorized by Congress I think on a 2-year cycle. And so that could be part of the problem. Or maybe people are concerned that it's not going to get reauthorized. It's kind of been a slam dunk year after year after year. Um I I don't know if we can count on slam dunks anymore. Um we did receive all of our federal dollars tied to title for our consolidated grant. So th those dollars should show up. >> All right, that's it. Anything else? Anyone on that? Cash flow quarterly financials.

093Eric, >> good evening. So, I have for you an update of the cash flow forecast through September actuals, early end of the year or the end of the quarter with roughly 8.5 million um in reserve after paying expenses for September. and looking at the forecast through February's payroll uh does look positive until we get through that. So that when we do receive the March, the largest property tax application in March, we will be safe as David called it earlier in commission. Then also have the updates along the Q1 financial summary uh breakdown of expenditures and revenues by the fund. Year to date we have spent roughly 17% of expenditure and receive eight. Next slide shows the expenditures by the title. Now the numbers here are somewhat skewed on salary and benefits. One we looked at

094820 somewhere in that range but because the acred wages for July and August for teachers and counselors and aids it expend extends back to the prior fiscal year. So those all show up as a general expense. So it doesn't quite show the war. And then the uh information on deposit accounts, all of the investment CD CD accounts have matured. They've been loaded back into Colorado trust. So on the final one, the investment pool accounts, you can see the breakdown of each of the various funds within Colorado trust. And I'm bringing attention to the Hughes Capital One about twothirds of the way down which is the 177 group. And then the last slide just breaks down the investments by institution. This was a much brighter and more color chart color of the trust. So we just

095have Butch's favorite two colors, blue and orange. Um showing what we have at Trust, what we have in our day-to-day bank the same ones and then a comparison of the interest earnings. It's a little skewed based on the scale. I apologize for that. This quarter Q1 we had 116,000 of interest earned versus 106 last year. That's that's a good one of those interest rates is still up to the I forget EO financial by >> that was last year's when we had an investment with them. Yeah, that was Bank of Oak at the end of September we were still at 4.32% at Colorado Trust which is higher than anything we've seen elsewhere. >> Yeah, it's pretty amazing really. Any questions? Anyone? >> All right. Thank you, Eric. And then the capital improvements update. Jason. >> Yes,

096absolutely. Thank you. Are you okay with me sharing up there? >> Absolutely. >> All right. Perfect. >> Heather, what's this? Is it the library chcast? Yes. Okay. There we go. Okay. Well, what we're going to do, I'll start with kind of going through the projects that have either been completed or we're actively working on, and then we'll finish up with the theoreticals and things that we're planning for right now. And going to kind of wrap up uh today talking through uh the irrigation project, which I spent a lot of time last month talking about, and I promised you that I was going to get some more information and come back tonight with hopefully a recommendation, and I I think I could do that. So, um, first thing to go over, um, last month we talked

097a little bit about our backflow device here at the middle school, uh, which had failed a couple of times when water line breaks took place out in the construction zone. Um, Rick actually had a great idea and suggested putting a sediment filter on that line to protect the backflow device. We did that and when I wrote this, we had not had an opportunity to test that, but this weekend we did. Um, the latest break and our system went through fabulously. We didn't have any issues. So that was a celebration for us. We are actively working right now. Kind of we should have had those folks stay. Um this is definitely a CTE project. Um we're in the process of preparing to move an old grow dome from the south side of the CTE building over

098to the north side next to the bigger grow dome. Our students will actually be doing the move themselves. So the maintenance team is preparing that pad and getting it ready for them. Um because we want it to be a really excellent facility that's going to be useful for a long time as a classroom space. We are putting utilities into it. So it's going to have currently water line has been placed. It will also have electric and network capabilities. So that's going to be a really nice facility when it's done. Right now it just looks like a chewed up side of the hill and it looks muddy right at the moment and so we're going to need it to dry out a little bit so we can finish that pad and then we'll be planning on

099um Shannon Carter's classes are going to move the grow dome over. Little bit more talk about our stadium field condition. Um our so our temporary solution that we put in place in August did hold through the fall. Very happy about that. They have now blown out the pump system down by the river because of cold weather. So, we will no longer be able to irrigate the field with that water, but it serviced extremely well up to this point. I think the last day of watering might have been about October 7th that we were able to do. And of course, now we've had the monsoon show up. So, we're not short on water right at the moment. Um, the field is definitely showing a little bit of wear just from the amount of use that it

100is getting. Uh, this field gets used by a lot of groups, but overall it is still looking really good. So, I kind of gave a little projection of what that field has looked like going back to the beginning of August. um what it looked like on September 5th and then the last picture I have was homecoming on October 3rd. Um and it still looks approximately like that today. As far as things that we are in the planning stages for, um this is another CTE thing. This summer it was brought to my attention that our VOTE building is a really insecure area in that it is very easy for someone to get back into those classroom spaces that are not supposed to be there. And that has actually happened a couple times um over the last

101few years where a community member was able to just walk into the shop um and talk to Mr. Taylor about some different things. Um so we've gone in there and looked at what we need to do to make that a more secure facility. Um that includes um making sure that we have a secure door and an intercom system. uh this picture right here. So the first one in the top left shows the soft the south side of that building where there are a couple of gates um that in order for kids to get into that building they have to access through those gates and that's the problem. When the shop classes have their doors up then you can walk through those gates and get in. The picture to the right shows a door on the

102north side of the CTE building, which is the door that we want to turn into a secure door um with our access control and then also place an intercom with videocom system basically identical to what the high school has on its main doors. And we do the same thing at the 56 building at the middle school. So in the middle of the class period when a student needs to enter that building, they would push the intercom button. the main office secretaries would be able to see through the video that that student belongs there and then would push the button to access control so that they can get in. Um, in that way we would be able to lock down those gates on the back side of that building so that they would not be accessible.

103Shop classes can raise those overhead doors but students can still come and go from the building without having to bug the teachers to come out to that door and allow them into the building or um prop it open with a rock, which is basically what's been happening a lot lately. So, we've had contractors out. Um, that is not a project that's going to go over the amount that we need to get multiple bids for. I'm excited that this is something we'll be able to get done. I'm hoping in the next month that we'll be able to get that taken care of. So, we'll have updates there for that. High school roof. Um, this is going to be something I will be working on and you'll be getting um updates fairly regularly. This is a project

104that was um approved a year ago for this year's capital expenditures. the initial bids that we received on the high school roof were astronomical in size and this goes back into last spring and that they kind of started looking at potentially replacing the entire roof on the high school. Um that project was running up into the millions of dollars. They then scaled it back and looked at replacing the roof over the entire bandroom wing which was three to 400,000 I believe was the number that came in. Um, but none of those bits actually dealt with the real problem, which is how do we prevent big blocks of ice from sliding off the top of that theater roof and slamming down on the roof below it. And so my concern is that you could spend a

105lot of money and not actually get to the root of the problem and then continue to spend lots of money because the problem still exists. And so what we have done, and this is what has pushed this project back a little bit, is that we've gone back to the drawing board on the scope of the project itself and have asked for new bids that would incorporate fixing only the portion of the roof that has been damaged, but then also addressing the issue on top of the theater that is causing this problem in the first place. We have two bids in hand and on the 21st, a week from today, I'm going to be going through the project with one more contractor, uh, with the same scope and sequence that the previous bids had. The bids

106that we have in hand, um, they do deal with both fixing the damaged portions of the roof, but also hopefully solving the problem that we have in the first place. And really the common trends that we're seeing in those bids um is the combination of a heated pad that goes under the roof panels and then heated coils that go on top along with a snow barrier to slow down the progression of that snow and ice from sliding off the building. Our hope um and I've been called a polyiana on this one. So I as I learn what your winters are like maybe I'll find out more. But the hope is that the water comes up the the snow comes off in the form of water as opposed to giant bricks and blocks slamming down on

107the the roof below. So that is uh the plan. We got to get that last bit and then we'll make a decision on what way we're going to go. Elementary school playground. I've got a cool update on this one. This was actually delivered to our premises today. And so, uh, Dean and I were out there with the semi-truck and the skid steer um, unloading this and it's so what you see here is a mockup of what it's going to look like when it's done. There's a large structure with a small structure next to it. Um, those that equipment is now on site at the elementary school. Um, we will be demolishing the old equipment on the 27th of October and we'll be putting in the new equipment on the 3d of November. Uh, demolition we

108are doing install is being done by the company which I'm very glad because there's a lot of stuff over there that I don't want to try to figure out how it goes together. Be like Christmas morning on steroids. >> Okay. So, I wanted to to spend most of my time on irrigation. So, I guess I'm going to pause for a second. Does anyone have any questions about the projects we've gone over so far? No. Okay, awesome. >> Go ahead. Yeah, >> yes. Um, the elementary school playground. Yes, >> ma'am. Fixed. >> Is it boomable? >> So, it is not movable. Um, and it's got a lot of breaks in it. It's set in concrete and so we >> The new one that we put in >> Oh, I'm sorry. No, the old one. >> Yeah,

109the new one that we would put in. >> By fixed, you mean as we >> attached to the ground? Okay, I should have the answer to that and I do not. I am sorry. Um, the existing playground is set in concrete, so it has concrete footings under it. Um, that was my assumption that that's what the new one would probably be and I know where you're going. The question of we're hoping to build a school here in another couple of years. I need to find out on that exactly how it's going to be secured to the ground. So, I apologize that I don't have that on hand tonight. Yep, no problem. Any other questions? Okay. So, when we talked last month, um, I went over four options for doing the field and I had some

110figures to go with them. Once again, I want to refer us back to the three criteria that Rick and I have used as we've been going into these discussions in that our goals with our irrigation system is one to allow the district to control its own destiny when it comes to water. We do not want to require the use of drinking water for field irrigation. the pause um solution and then we needed to be economical to the district. And so as we identified these options and we had four of them, the first being to invest into a new solution proposed by the town. The second option was to sign a yearly water agreement with the town um that would roll over year to year. Option three was to drill a well that would be owned

111by the district. And then option four all the way down here was to potentially install an artificial turf field. At the last meeting, I had just signed a contract with a drilling consultant, uh Joel Hellweg of um so he's known as the connectors, his private consulting firm, but he's the founder of Justice Well Systems. asked him to do some consulting and actually look into the possibility of what it would take to drill a well and then get us some figures on what that could potentially cost to help us make a decision as to whether we want to go down that road or or go down the road of of partnering with the town in some way, shape or form. So, he completed his um report. I've attached that report if you want to read through

112the entire thing, but just kind of the high points of it um is that there are two options that we could look at really when it comes to a well. We could do a deep hole well, which is sort of what we think about when we think about drilling a water well, or we could do a gallery well, which is really using seep water that seeps into the ground off of the river. Talk quickly about the deep hole well first. Um, there is not a lot of close deep wells to the school for him to be able to analyze to be able to say, "Yes, there is water on our property or there should be water on our property." and it's far enough away from the river itself that the the hole would be significant.

113And so in order to go down that road, we would need to drill a test well um and the test well would go up to 1,000 ft and then they would look at the different strata and different depths and figure out where the good water is because you can hit water but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's good water and that it's going to allow us to grow grass as opposed to just killing it. um the cost of that test well um would run anywhere between 80,000 and 100,000. And as we look at these numbers, I think it's important to know that a I'm giving you high numbers because I want to be prepared for it. That if we go down that road, I don't want there to be a surprise later on that says

114why did it cost that much. So it could well be less than 100,000, but we need to be prepared that it could be that much. So that's just the test. Well, if if and I say if because it's not a guarantee, if that test well finds good water, then we would have to cap that test well and go back and drill the actual well out. Um it would need to be an 8 in diameter hole because of the amount of water that we need to run the systems to supply the water that we have and the pressures that we need in the gallon amounts that we need. So when you expand to an 8 inch hole, um it gets it gets expensive quickly. And so at that point, the cost to drill that well would

115be up to $250,000. So when you put those two things together, we need to be prepared for a $350,000 expense to then have our own deep hole. Well, okay. The second option that Joel looked at, which I would say he feels much more favorable about this as a possibility in actually getting the amount of water that we need, um would be to do a a gallery well. Um much shallower than what I described with the other system. And so a lot of those requirements like cementing and casing does not have to be done for a gallery well. Um in order to make that happen, we would need to go through the process of getting a water aotment. Um, we actually talked to an individual uh with the water commission that feels that that would not

116be a huge hurdle for us. I kind of thought it might be that the potential of being able to get that aotment could be a big problem. We may have big problems, but it sounds like that probably would not be it. Um, let's see. So, the cost, the total cost of doing that gallery well would probably be upwards of $150,000. So, significantly less than doing a deep hole. And in Joel's mind, much better likelihood of us getting the amount of water that we would want out of that than going the other route. But that's still a very significant expense uh when we look at it. The other concern that I have about the Gallery Well is that we would still need to get a easement from the town to be able to place that well

117in close enough proximity to the river itself for the well to function. And so we would almost be duplicating in a slightly different fashion what the town is already working on putting together. Um now they may well be amendable to doing that easement and I have not gone to them yet because I wanted to present these figures to you all before I um and I'd like to share with you what I think we should do. But before I do that wanted to make sure that we had this this discussion. Okay. Um, let me stop there for just a second and ask if you have questions in regards to those two well options. >> Okay. So, >> yes, sir. >> So, the gallery well is I've heard of that before. Is it essentially se massive large

118seage well? >> That's basically what it is. Yes. >> And there's reason to think that we would be able to get the water amount of water we need. >> Yes. >> Which is hundreds of gallons a >> minute. hundreds of gallons. So, the current well that we have, the pump generates 330 gallons per minute. Um, which is actually a lot more than we technically need. We need somewhere between 130 and 160 gallons a minute to operate our stuff at the rate that we need. I'm sorry. Do you want me to roll it up or down? Um, >> no, that's fine. >> It's fine. >> Yeah. Okay. I think I understand the the sort of you were comparing the valid might be sort of synonymous or similar to what they're offering to us $150,000 upfront and

119there would not be >> no there's what we're looking at with the town would be 50,000. >> Did I say the wrong thing? I >> No, you're good. So the gallery well would cost up to 150,000 and it would belong to us 100%. If we partnered with the town, that would be a $50,000 investment on our part because they're then fielding the other half of that, right? And we're splitting the the the difference with them. >> But we're guarant we would be guaranteed that water >> based on what what we have talked through and based on what the engineers have said, yes, we would have more than enough water in that. >> No, no. Would we be guaranteed to have that water >> that would have to go into theou, right? So what can you

120know as far as >> if it doesn't generate like my hope would be that whatever we do has been researched well enough that I don't we don't rely on language in theou to guarantee us water because it works right I think that's all stuff that needs to be in theou but I just want the solution to work and work a lot better than what we've had for a long time. >> Great. Thank you. >> Yeah. No problem. No problem. Okay. So, yes. So, basically the gallery well ends up being very, very similar to what the town is already doing. The town's solution, which I go into just a little bit up here. Oh, I I'm sorry. I took out the the hardcore details and left the basics. >> The town solution is is the current

121solution with some what's what's >> Yeah. So, um and I can if you like I can pull up last month's You weren't here last month. >> Don't go back to it. Okay. So, basically what the town wants to do, if you know where the pickle ball courts are, and there's kind of a ditch that goes from very close to the river and then it flows kind of down to the pickle ball courts. It's full of water right now, which is a good sign for what they're wanting to do. They want to put a diversion in that is placed basically right behind where we put the rocks in this August. So, kind of to the idea of raising the water there so that in July when things get tough, we've got enough water in our pool.

122they would be placing the diversion in a much more favorable location and then putting in a permanent set of rocks that will permanently raise that that water so we don't have the issues that we've had and then that diversion would flow along back along kind of that canal and then they'd be putting in a much deeper sistern than the ones that they currently have. If you've gone down to that river and taken a look, it's it's interesting to me. So it's a gravityfed sistern in that we fill the sistern by having water flow down that pipe, but the vast majority of that sistern is way way above the level of the river. So it doesn't take an engineer to look at that and say there's a reason why this hasn't worked very well because when

123that river level goes down, gravity no longer works and that sistern is not deep enough to be able to make it work. So they would be placing the new sistn and the pump in a much more favorable location that would be dug much deeper. Um the idea of what Rick and I call it the lazy river where that uh the diversion kind of flows back there is that you know when you look at the river today it's brown right there's a tremendous amount of sediment and particulate in there and that that diversion would allow space and time for the water to set out those settle out those particulates so when it goes through the pump the water's in better shape and it's not gumming up our sprinklers. Have met with Chris Pitcher the engineer on

124that project. Um, I have every reason to believe that it's going to work. The science works. When I look at what they're doing, and again, this is something when I went down to the river and looked at it, it was pretty clear why that was not working. It appears to me that what we're looking at doing here is going to solve that problem. The town is going to be going down that route with us or without us. And I think I mentioned last month that was that was my one frustration with us was that we found a solution. We fix the problem at a very very economical rate, but the town is making this change, which is going to cost some money. And so, we can either have a seat at the table and be

125part of the planning process and pay a one-time fee and then not be having to budget in yearly amounts in perpetuity. So, it's kind of the question, you know, when you're buying a house, you can either buy a house or you can rent a house. Once you buy the house, you know, you you deal with things like upkeep and, you know, maintenance. If you rent the house, you don't have to pay that, but you also don't have very much say in what happens to that house. Okay. My recommendation would be that we take the option of actually investing into that solution with the town so that we are a part of their planning committee. Uh we make a one-time expenditure up front that would be paid for out of the capital reserves and then that

126way we're not having to budget a $10,000 a year um line item for that. Um, and honestly, if someone had told me in, you know, in July when Rick and I had our first conversation that we could solve this problem for $50,000, I would have been doing backflips. Um, and my belief is that this is something that's going to solve this problem for a very long time. So, um, I wanted to make sure that I had this conversation with you all and so for you to know my reasons and why I want to go that direction. If you see a hole in that logic or would like to see me explore a different path, um would like to have that conversation tonight because if you're in agreement with me on this, um I want to

127get this moving with the town to make sure that when we hit spring, we have water. >> The last time I did a backflip, I landed on my head. It was pretty ugly. >> Questions, comments? Other otherwise it seems pretty >> pretty clear to me that the 50,000 option is the best one. >> Yes. >> Very good. Thank you. >> Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for your detail options. Appreciate it. >> I appreciate it. It's been really good to work with you guys on this one and I'm excited that we have a good solution in hand. >> Wish you can't see him, but >> he is doing back flips. >> Green grass. >> I can't tell you how good I am at that green grass. Let's take a short break. >> Yeah. Be back in fiveish. >>

128Jason, I would really thank you for the Mr. Hel gave us spend the time on this and I I go through this and appreciate >> he did. Yeah, he build us for 10 hours, but I think he had to have put a lot more time and effort into that. >> Yep. I agree. >> Have you had a chance to meet him at any point? He's a he's a really fascinating gentleman. Very very articulate. Um I enjoy very much enjoy talking to him and I learned through the process. So my dad spent 30 years building custom utility trailers. Joel's son with Justice owns one of my dad's trailers and it was one that was manufactured for another company 31 years ago I think and somewhere along the line they picked it up but it was parked

129down at the you know at their and I saw it because his his uh you know his logo is very very clear and it was very clear that was one of his trailers. So anyway, weird personal family connections but I was super impressed with his work. What are you doing? That's >> I'm not pretty much for Well, there is already Uh he was the last every right there. >> You're going crazy. Oh my god. From the data I see that that river is coming down slowly tonight. like 6,000. >> Oh, I bet. Wow. >> It's supposed to be fading. It's going to come and go, but is being watching. Yeah. All right, we're we're back in >> we're back in session. >> All right, so we're on to the action items and so we can

130knock off a couple here. We we did the bill for ghosts done. We're not doing the property sale that's done. Um, and next we have a resolution in support of the town of Spring ballot measure 2A. So we we I proposed that be on the agenda with the idea that we might want to support that some language in there. But first, how about if I ask Bill tell us why ballot measure 2A made a sense to count. Why does it make sense? >> Why is it a good idea? >> Um well, the the latest the latest assessment of all of the repairs to the state of sewer lines and concrete system. Um the latest estimate before it was 80 million, it's 89 million was the number that they've come up with now. Um, and this

131would be over a couple of decades. This is not like all these things need to be done next year, but what 2A would provide would be three and a half million or so a year to start addressing these things without putting that on the backs of the downtown residents. And downtown, as we all know, is the poorest part of our county. Uh 40% of the kids in downtown are below the property line. So So we we do have we do have a um a population there that cannot afford to pay more easily for or sewer repairs. And so this would allow the entire community to to help with our schools, with our government buildings, with our businesses downtown, with our residents within downtown, um our parks. This would help uh let the whole community support

132the downtown's vibrancy and uh also the tourists would pay 28 30% of the tax um with paying for their motel rooms and uh pay at restaurants and so forth. So, so it's really not just a community uh effort, but it's community and visitors effort to to fix an $89 million problem, $89 million problem over the next 20 years. Um, so that's that's sort of a summary. there was an estimate of like $200 bill for the customers if if this doesn't pass to to reach the same point. Um and I know there's a lot of it would be devastating to have a $200 a month bill even even today town residents pay about $71 a month for sanitation. If you live out in Posta Lake you pay about 30 bucks a month. >> It's 47 >>

13347. Okay. But it's >> so it's already more and it could easily triple which affects damage but it also our bill would be under what it is now may not anything you triple is going up a lot and there's no way around it. You got to get the money somewhere the systems just not working. Any questions? I propose this resolution here at our agenda. A question that you I'm just looking at the Pagosa sewers solutions site. The the committee's obviously been ongoing for a while. Are there any possibilities of the discussion of matching funds for the state? Is this something we could we as a community could get a hold of or is this the only option is to pay for it all ourselves associated with >> I can't imagine that they they wouldn't be

134looking at grants along the way. Um, >> but they'd have to have the critical mass in place before that. >> One of the things they want to get rid of is the 70 mile pumping pipeline, which is just had another pump failure for a couple of days ago. Um, and that's going to mean a state-of-the-art treatment plant down by the high school is what it's going to mean. Um, and that's in their estimates is big million dollars just for that. But I think that's low when we start hearing back what a roof repair costs. Um, I think I think it's probably going to be a lot higher over the next 10 years to get started on that treatment plant more than $50 million. So I mean even if we get grants along the way it's

135it's going to be uh going to be hard to to all these units. >> Right. So a so the the Aprior hits that the local dollars need to initiate it before the federals or states I'm not an expert in this whatsoever would would come in help. It's possible. >> It's like Bill Pagosa got a million dollars of federal government. So, it's but they were ongoing. So, >> the town council passed a resolution last week >> that if if the community is behind this and and approves 2A, they will look at freezing freezing the rates at $71 because they're scheduled to go up to 76 and then continue to go up. is the great study that is showing constantly growing fees for the for the sewer. The town is going to look at using some of

136this funding to keep those rates at $7 million. Um, so that's that's a good and grants would help with that being able to use some of our rates. Anything else? So, so I'll move that we approve this resolution and read the wording there. Ralph Street One Press Good Spring School District is committed to fostering safe, healthy, and thriving learning environment for all students, educators, and families and ballot measure 2A poses a targeted investment in essential sewer infrastructure. Aging system support responsible growth and protect public health and environmental quality and other items written below that. I think we benefit, everyone benefits. We propose that we um accept this as a motion and resolution to be adopted. So that's that's my second. >> Yes, I'm happy to second. >> Any comments, questions, anything? >> Mr. Cook, this

137is a 1% countywide sales tax. It's 1% on anything any uh commercial transactions within the town limits >> which includes >> up and goes down to the gas stations. So with that >> Mr. Iverson hi >> Mr. Lynch. Hi >> Mr. Mackey. >> Hi, >> Mrs. Shik. >> Hi. >> And Mr. Taylor. >> Hi. >> Motion carry. We'd ask Rick to pass this along to our counterparts at the town pass resolution that >> absolutely. >> All right. Next action. We have extra duty assignments for both the high school and middle school. Those are coaching and sponsorships and all variety of things. Any questions on anything in there? Anybody? All right, we need a motion to pass the extra duty assignments. I will make the motion to move to approve the extra duty assignments as presented.

138>> We have a motion. Do we have a second? >> I can second that. Questions? We'll take the vote. >> Mr. Iverson. >> Hi. >> Mr. Lynch. >> Hi. >> Mr. Hi. >> Hi. Okay, Mrs. Shik and Mr. >> I recuse myself because my wife was mentioned in this. I don't know if I have to, but I think it's probably all right. And then the last big item here, um, first reading policies and I'll take us through that. >> So, we have, um, three policies. Two of them are new and one is a revision. I'll do the new first. We have policy KLG, relations with state and federal agencies, pursuant to a state law that passed during the 2025 Colorado legislative session 5-276 that requires all school districts to adopt a policy to protect the

139immigration status of students and their families. While this policy is not required by law, it is required as a companion to the associated regulation which is required by law. It does last. >> While this policy is not required by law, it is required as a companion to the associated regulation, which is required by it's not a required policy, but it's required to go with policy, but it's required to have it. um questions or comments and we'll do that one first. >> Okay. Comments on that one. So, we're we're proposing that we pass policy in support of regulation. >> Correct. >> That's okay. I guess I'm a little confused. the regulation is in place and we're just doing the policy. >> These are both >> I think I'm echoing exactly what you just Yeah. Yeah. We

140are doing the policy. There's a little bit of funny language about we don't have to do it but the regulations in place >> if the regulations in place you have to have a policy of how you're going to implement regulation. >> We have to put the regulation in place. The regulation references well you know in your policy we we don't have that policy. So we're required to have that policy there. So we can have the regulation to reference it. >> So no, it's not required by law there. Yes, it's required in order by law. Yes, >> thank you. >> And this is not where we have to make a decision on the yellow text. Uh that's the other >> that is our vision. >> Are you looking for a motion? >> Yeah, or questions. >>

141Oh, okay. >> We can do them both together. >> We're only talking about dash or >> we're talking about KG KG the policy that is the companion to KGR regulation. >> Basically we're looking at both of >> Yeah. So the board will cooperate and to the extent possibly develop written agreements with law enforcement, juvenile justice system, social services as allowed under >> is that you're >> I should listen to the question before I speak. is are we having conversations about developing written agreements with these entities? Do we have them established already? Is that within our purview to ask and review? >> We have agreements. We do not have like detailed written agreements. We have a practice we put into place about a year ago when um there was some concern about that at that time

142about immigration status and how do we address uh the possibility of someone coming to the school with a subpoena or a uh a warrant and how would we handle that? We do have that document and that document inspired extensive talks with local law enforcement. Um, of course, the state of Colorado has uh a law in place that local law enforcement does not participate with federal agents in regard to immigration issues. And then Heather, because KLG-R references so many other policies, it is it beneficial for us as a board to go back and look at how this is linked in any way or do you not think that it's necessary? Um, and well, they're all they're all policies that have been adopted recently, right? >> The one that we're doing tonight, the Jim, that's the only

143one that's changing out of all these policies that are listed >> and that's these revisions right here. >> Correct. And I believe we just did not too long ago the JRC R update. >> And this is a first reading, correct? This one right here. >> We can we can bring it back for a second reading or we can adopt it tonight if we could comfortable. ponder the best thing to be done with it. We can just be clear, we are a little bit behind on the deadline for this which was it was supposed to be required and in place by September 1st. So, we're already a little behind. If we're a little more behind, I don't think it's huge deal, but we're behind. >> What's your feeling? >> Happy to wait. No, I don't. It's

144not gonna >> No, no, I'm worried for saying things up. I guess um I'm I'm just wondering if any other members of the board have thought feedback or if it is directed straightforward um you know regarding just kind of the outline and stipulations that are written in here. Everybody feels confident that they can make a vote >> at least in terms of it's a pretty straightforward policy. >> Correct. Well, I know that I know that we have agreements um and understandings etc etc with local law enforcement but this policy of course I would direct you superintendent to ensure that what we say here points one carried out because it's policy that's comfortable Anyone else? >> Can you hear me if I say something? >> Yeah. >> All right. >> You know, I've read through this

145and I just want to make sure that we're not doing anything that hinders law enforcement. I understand that we want to protect the uh the confidential records of of students in the system, but I don't want to be a roadblock to law enforcement doing your job either, whether it's immigration or anything else. And near as I can tell, this doesn't do that. But I just want to make sure I've read it right. I don't believe it puts us in a position where be creating a roadblock. It just puts us in a position where we're compliant with state law. Well, we're were we compliant with this mandate as it is even though we haven't adopted it. >> No, we need to adopt it in order to be compliant or >> No, I understand that. But in

146practice, are we compliant with it? >> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's right. That's a good conversation. Um, yes, in practice that is what we do. But policy is one of those things we put in place so that when the six of us aren't here trying to decide what we do that everyone else follows the rules as they were intended. And so this um I think if you're asking like will this change what we're doing currently our current practice I do not believe it will change our current practice but I do believe it will solidify as uh Tim had said that what the clearly what the expectations are. >> Okay. Well, I'll move that we approve KG R as regulation acknowledge exists and that KG the new policy that supported that is tonight as >> I will

147second. >> Any other questions or discussion? >> Mr. Iverson. Hi, >> Mr. Lynch. >> Hi, >> Mr. Mackey. >> Hi, >> Mrs. Schik. >> Hi, >> and Mr. Taylor. >> Hi. >> Thank you. >> All right, take us through the other. >> So, the revision is minor updates pursuant to the state law that was passed during the 2025 Colorado legislative session SB25-276 with formatting. Um the only thing I'd like to draw your attention to is on um page six there's an option the administration does recommend in keeping the current language include a consent form with the IEP package materials that is under the disclosure to Medicaid. >> So say that again. So on page six, >> page six, >> the JJRC. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> It says, "Choose one or more of

148the following and administration is recommending to include a consent form with IEP package, which is what it's currently listed in our policy. You're you're re you're recommending that highlight >> correct becomes a directive now basically then the option correct like it's you'reuring that will happen not shall happen >> yes and it's what our current practices. This is how we handle it. >> Um, but when they said, "Hey, you could revise this to make these minor adjustments. By the way, here's an area where you could make more change." And we said, "We're going to leave what we have and we'll take the minor adjustments, but we're not going to add anything additional than the consent form being handled during the IEP meeting. So that's all we're looking for. >> Yeah. Most of the the language is

149just going from shall to must or will. Yes. So and then capitalizing district things like that. The content is mainly disclosure. So we need a motion to approve that with unless someone wants to change it with the selected language as >> correct. game for that. I'll make a motion to approve it as written. That's selected material included. Motion. Do we have a second? I'll second. Any further discussion? >> Mr. Iverson. >> Hi. >> Mr. Lynch. >> Hi. >> Mr. Mackey. >> Hi. >> Mrs. Shik. >> Hi. >> And Mr. Taylor. >> Hi. >> Thank you very much. >> We got it. >> Great. Thank you. >> All right. Let's go around the board. Any other boards you sit on or any updates to provide us at this time? Oh, I I don't know if everyone's

150aware or not and Rick can probably offer additional information, but Tom Burus has resigned as the superintendent in Cortez and I don't know that we're completely sure of what that means for their uh application to uh separate from Boseis. And Rick, do you have any additional information on that? >> Yes. Was is that I didn't hear superintendent >> superintendent from uh Monuma Cortez who was leading the charge on the separation from the Boseies. Um resigned his position. The Cortez has begun a search for a new superintendent. I don't know if they have officially selected one yet. Um, we also have heard that there are five of seven board seats open at the next election in November. And um so uh Royce, executive director of Bose's and myself, we we uh spoke and uh Royce crafted

151a letter and sent it off to Paul Foster is the decision maker from CDE and said seems like a pause would be a good idea while Monument Cortez goes through potential leadership change. Um, simultaneously building principles, special education providers, uh, program directors from Monizuma Cortez signed a joint letter saying we are supporting this separation regardless of who comes in as the superintendent. Yeah, know how they do that, but that's what they're saying. Or whoever the board is. I also don't know how they do that. that seems ill advised, but um so Paul Foster has yet to make a decision on that, but the premise is is what uh which was alluding to, which is like they're about to go through leadership changes. It's really the best time for us to be going through our divorce

152papers and figuring out how we're dividing up assets and doing all that stuff. So, um we're still waiting to hear Anything else? >> Not really. Everything else is just business as usual. They're trying to uh uh make necessary changes to uh provide the best service they think they can provide to us. So, I think Royce is relying more on the superintendent than she has in the past, and I'm glad to hear that. So, I do have a question or not a question about this. Um, obviously they have a seven member board in Mazum and Cortez. Do you happen to know if these are all uh terms that are coming up or if they're they're going to have to appoint people and how that's because it seems unlikely to have five terms coming up. >> That's

153correct. They're not. But just like us, every once in a while we get three seats that come up at once or four because we've had an appointment and then you have to run in the next available election. So they have some of that going on. Then couple of those seats are uncontested and new people and some are existing people and they're contested. It's quite it's a a competitive election is my understanding from two hours away. >> All right. Seeing nothing else then >> I just two things I want to talk about how today became a flood day. I have called very few snow days. Um but I have called power outage days and uh now a flood a flood day. Um yesterday afternoon we met with uh all of the partners in town or what's

154called a MAC meeting. I have no idea what that acronym stands for. Emergency something committee action committee I think. Um but we spoke for a while yesterday afternoon kind of the state of the state what was happening and Sheriff Louu checked in with everybody like hey what's your plans and clearly stated our plans was to have school today that's where we're going to operate and so then we talked about some of the parameters sort of which that might or might not happen um and then I stayed up till 11:00 anticipating the river to swell and be a peak by midnight and that clearly was not going to happen just watching the water increase at that time. And so I got up again at um 3 and that's when it had really started take off around

1552:30 or so. It started to kick up. So I began speaking with Jason and I started Brandon Bishop reach out to me and said things are getting wild downtown. We had a sewer line break. They shut down 160. They're rerouting town Hot Springs, which we knew was a possibility, but apparently Ced was reluctant to shut that uh the First Street Bridge down for some reason. So, it really happened late last night. Um I eventually uh spoke to Sheriff Laroo. God, I don't know what the first time what it was, 4:30 or something like that. And then we spoke again at 5. And at that point, he said, you know, it's just too unpredictable right now. The water at that point had already exceeded where it was on Saturday. People were unsure what that meant for

156expanding flood zones. The idea of having that many more adults, cars, buses, kids around town. Um we after we discussed it, we decided it probably be best to have a flood day. So we made that call and tried to get the word out as best we could. Um we also had our own staff was being evacuated the night before. our building leaders are very concerned about our staff members as as readily as they should be. And so um it seemed best we're all all concerned at that time. So we always make those decisions. Uh I always make that decision reluctantly. I feel like the best place for kids is in school where it's it's safe, especially if their parents are taking off to go to work. And so I want to have kids with us

157as much as humanly possible. But there are those occasions when uh warrants a shutdown. This was this was one of those times. Um we were very fortunate too that while the water was um peaking and getting, you know, higher than it was on Saturday, we didn't have some of the experiences that we had like a water main break or or other things. So, um, it went relatively smoothly for that much new water and maybe we could have pulled it off, but I think the pressure that it would have put on our emergency services to have everyone down here was a bit too much. So, took a conservative approach. Uh, the other thing I just wanted to fill you in on is that um, Eric and I have been diligently tackling insurance. Um, should be stalled

158with four letters. I don't know how they have more letters and insurance at four, but um we have taken we have received proposals um really good proposals from three other uh agencies in addition to our current provider. So, we're meeting this week with our uh insurance committee to go through those. Um we have a range of what it can mean to employees from an increase of 16% to a decrease of 30% or more. Um and so we've set out some some parameters for ourel and one of the things um that we're trying to achieve as a benefit for our organization is finding a way to have a nocost premium for our single employees. And so we're really going to work with the committee to structure our next plan to to support that. So you'll get

159a bigger update uh in November for sure because we will have we will have moved on. Um, I feel like we're in a better spot this year than we were last year. Both we have a lot more experience negotiating. Um, found out how much wiggle room is in these policy proposals and starting to take advantage of that. And then we're really fortunate to have a dedicated group of staff members who are willing to help in the decision- making when it comes to that. So, looking forward to starting that process and getting it behind us. >> We'll see. Thank you. >> Absolutely. Yeah. Thank goodness you guys got smart about it. It's a complicated world. Changes all the time all the time. >> Yeah. That's something we'll hear hear about before the end of the year

160of the calendar year. >> Yeah. The we run a January to uh December policy now. We used to run a school year policy, but it's very confusing um for everyone. It's not really a school year. It's a July to June policy. But we run January to December and that's aligned with our other programs and um we'll we'll definitely talk about it. There's some fundamental changes that we're looking at the way that because we you know we're a small enough organization that we have to have a high deductible plan more or less in order to be able to afford it. That means we got to help support our staff buying down that deductible. There's a couple of ways you can do that. Has the way we currently do it. HSAs another way to do it. I'm

161really interested in getting our employees in charge of their own money. um which would mean moving towards an HSA, but I think we have some education to do with the with the rest of the group um to help people understand. And so we have good numbers based on the way that program is running right now, the number of employees that have invested in the HA and leaving that money on the table and it's not theirs to take back and I would rather see them invested in themselves through an HSA so they could take it with them, hold on to it. And so that's one of our big lifts. We'll start Wednesday this week uh educating folks and uh hope to have a plan decision by the end of the month. >> Anything else? Anyone? Anything

162on for upcoming meetings or all right with that then we'll journ. Thank you. Why do they call it Mac meeting? I don't get it.