Salida School District Board Meeting 6-10-2025

001to get better at publishing the trans curriculum. Just seeing a summit of assessment and it's really helpful for parents who want my questions and say what is it you're trying to say teach I think that helps whatever you test is really the key question. Have a side conversation that's not to test. Um in addition to that uh something we've talked about is Dr. Blackburn making a sending a communication home to all the parents of the students like I'll be doing that as well obviously but just so it's um kind of coming from them as well and just really encouraging the families to have these conversations too like we want it to be as transparent as possible and the kids to have as many conversations with as many people and we definitely want the parents voices

002in it as well not some secret conversation that we had in class like take it home talk to your parents see what they say and bring that input back to to join maybe inviting parents to the if there's a common book or some readings letting them know that or is that too much? Yeah, I don't think so. Um and yeah, I mean I have my Canvas um all my courses are in Canvas. So the dayto-day you could you could get on my Canvas class and it's accessible to like all the resources I had set shared with anyone with the link. So you can open anything and if they're like what was you talking about in class today then they could look on it. Yeah. starting out with that personal belief statement already conversation. I imagine

003a lot of kids will questions for their kids about Yeah. Yeah. We hope so. Was there any other questions? I mean probably a hard one to answer but in today's climate we'll say I assume this will be emotional for many um systems in place to support staff going through this curriculum and it's been sad because yes it's been five years came home with the conversation I think that's why we're going through the process here if we need letters of support there's lots of people wanting to write those and we think you guys needed If it develops there's more conversation. So it may come to us that we have to write a letter to the editor or make public statements to say nope this is his job to do that. His job is to take care

004of the kids and I will personally sign up. This was something that was very important to me five, six years ago and it's here and I will I can be your advocate. Write those letters. Cool. Come in class anytime. Seriously. Brady, anything else you felt like you wanted to say? I appreciate you making time for us. Um, no. I don't I don't think so. Uh I feel like if you guys reviewed it, it's that's pretty much speaks for itself. Part is getting down to duration. Most of the class will be kids learning math, civil dialogue. It'll be all this stuff right here in this fourth unit. That's where most of the time will be spent. So, and you mentioned maybe bringing in the community for that as well, which when we get into that, um

005not sure exactly how it'll play out. I want the students to be able to choose topics of their interest. Um, figuring out the logistics of this is going to be a challenge, but I want them to be able to bring up topics and then bring in guest guest speakers. So, whatever the issue is, can we find members of the community who have different perspectives on that? and if I can arrange all that in a modified block schedule or whatever it is with all the different classes, but um to have to have visitors come in and share their their opinions and perspectives is going to be a part of it too. We hope. Was it was it your class in middle school where I remember the girls doing like one of these media source bias assignments

006where they looked at a political issue from two different news sources. Was that your class? Yeah, sounds like it. I thought so. That's that's something I'm excited about, too. I feel like a lot of the things that are in here are things that I've done sort of peace meal in other classes and to just be able to really focus in on it and and drill down on that. Like, you know, we have I mean, I teach government class and I've had current events topics and things like we I've aimed for this, but to have a full class dedicated to just Okay, we're really gonna drill down on on how to do this properly. I'm excited about that. Yeah. And so it's probably I mean it shouldn't be all foreign material initially to the kids either.

007They should have had exposure already to Sure. Yeah. And in language arts classes I mean just about everything you're talking about not maybe not necessarily media but but source analysis and how do I know that what I'm where I'm getting my information is legit and all that stuff. And as an instructor, once you kind of set that north star, what you're how you have to leave, it helps everyone else plan, okay, to get here, I got to get here. And start to develop that once you know your final senior project, so to speak. I would imagine to source some community folks, talk to Fred and see a pretty robust pipeline of various individuals and businesses that we can that are already engaged with students. Brady's supervisors will put her in mind and maybe get the

008class running and build structures before you bring a lot of volunteers in it. Yeah, save that for the end. Okay, we do. Yeah, I'm excited for it. Thanks for the support on I guess I mean it's been years in the works, I guess, and I just arrived at the high school this past year, but I'm excited to be the one doing it. Brady, you're also getting this little side note, aren't you getting your masters and I am. Yeah. Uh, I should be finishing it this summer through the concurrent enrollment grant. I got 13 credit hours this summer. So, yeah, taking the I I would much rather do it in the summer than be trying to juggle that. This I was um not taking that heavy of a load, but I was taking classes last summer

009and all through the school year this year, and I would much rather just like put my nose to the grindstoneone in the summertime. For sure. This is where the school district through grants have been paying tuition through their teachers to get credentials so they can be teaching concurrent enrollment. Um, and this is the last grant that they're going to offer. So, it's been shut down. I heard that yesterday. So, you're the last one. So, we'll have to think about as a community how much we want to invest in our teachers can do concurrent enrollment. And we had talked about this. I don't know there's I don't even know if I should say this, but this was just among the social studies team. I don't even know if we mentioned it to Dr. Blackburn. But um

010we had talked about the potential of making this a CMC credit class, working with them, not obviously for this year, but in the future. And then it it is a graduation requirement. I would be certified to teach it potentially. Um depending on, you know, if they say it's like a political science class, maybe I wouldn't, but anyway, it's getting into the nitty-gritty. But um dreams. Yeah. Yeah. And then we every kid would since it's a graduation requirement, every kid will have at least taken one college credit class and that might show some kids like, hey, I can I can handle this. Which is the biggest indicator of metriculation and persistence in America today is taking at least a course in high school. Oh, really? So long-term goals. Yeah. Next next June, maybe. I would probably

011have figured out before then. Okay. We have the action item later for approving of the curriculum. So, you're welcome to stay and welcome to go. Yes, Brady's not going to stay with us. Okay. I would not even ask him to. So, I know I did so much today already. Thank you guys. Thank you. District reports. David, anything more there? Um, no. I think I gave you guys plenty this last two weeks. Okay. Thanks. Uh, moving forward into the consent agenda. Looking for a motion? Questions, comments, thoughts? Ready for vote? All right. Dr. Becker. Hi, Dr. Hill. Hi, Mr. Hobs. Hi, Mrs. Lunberg. Hi, Mrs. Pascal. Hi, Mr. I am Mr. Smith. I moving into the easy part of the evening. Um the quick parts discussion items and the first one it looks like we're doing

012is activities plan. David. Sure. Take her away. All right. Two things when you're later on you're kind of I wouldn't say approving because it's not policy but kind of acknowledging putting these positions around these position papers. So the activities one is kind of an activity. It's part of that action item. So I think this one has more substance to it. The other one is just an initial plan. But I wanted to make sure there's nowhere in most school districts this would be atypical to be very clear, right? So you're going in more than I guess innovative space. We say this is our philosophy of why we do activities and why we do this and not that. Um I think our community is very very interested in activities and it's very important to us. It's why

013we're growing. um it's not just sports, it's performing arts, but it's it's even broader than that. Um knowledge bowl is a good way for me to think about how that spreads out in activities. Um, so I might start with is there any questions on kind of that philosophical statement which isn't policy but at least gives the community a space to know what the stance is and if a new board comes on it is a different philosophy then we know where to guide the conversation. Is there anything in there like middle school the purpose is to just encourage participation? So there only six weeks, right? So you can do basketball for six weeks, then do wrestling for six weeks. Um and it allows So we want to get as many people out there and I think

014that means we need to make sure we're able to hire enough practice coaches or coaches. That's the consequence to that. Whereas you are at a place which we haven't been in Salida because we have we've grown though and we have such good participation you're going to have to get into cutting sink right which many districts who are larger than us have done and so this would be the first time of trying to find some language to say when might we do that and then you have to balance it with if you're cutting kids then what's the other activity right you should be as you add cutting you have to add more activities So there's more choices for those kids who may not be able to perform at that higher level as a senior. Let's say

015what's that other thing that they can be engaged because our biggest risk security wise, everything wise is disengaged kids. So the most important thing for academics is engaged kids. Right. Any thoughts, comments? assuming like for the cutting I'm looking at the particular assuming this is adopted but there'll be a later policy that's more guard rails around and that would come down here in these regulation policies particularly around adding new activities um at the bottom there so I've added some more regulation policies the way it did not put them in policy the regulations and be more adaptive. Um, but adding a new policy has to be related to kind of your how many kids are participating that you already have. Small towns, one of our biggest risk is you add tons of activities and you end

016up killing all of them because there's not enough participation to generate the level of quality that makes it fun. Well, I mean, yeah, the volleyball for the whole and so then what's the other thing you're going to do in the fall that girls would find interesting particularly girls who maybe aren't making the team that language and I think the other risk with volleyball example in particular is we have a really great coach who we have the potential to burn out really quickly if we don't offer You can only have six girls on the court at a time, you know, then yeah, we have to is good because then you also can't just like do what you can kind of do in middle school. There's Yeah, they can just for one person, right? So, you're very

017limited. But is it easier to find something else to do at that same time for other kids who want to do that? Is that would it be just as easy to find more supervision and more coaches? The answer is no because you want to have facilities. It's a part of adding new activities. You've got to like just because we want it and we can put kids in it way. So something like an outdoor sport instead something like that. And the other part we have to run into is competitions. Do they have an E team, right? Like do they have ABCD? If there's not somebody to compete against, then what happens is those kids practice all week and when there's no one to play a match against. So they end up scrimmaging themselves the whole season

018and which might be fine to have a kid involved rather than not involved and sitting at home doing nothing. Maybe they would rather skirmish their friends than not be involved. So I think we want to look at those. We want the activities part of our market. should be looking at that solution versus adding something else with facility against and then can you find a supervisor or somebody I was going to ask you what's Marco we have the volleyball so we can't we can't find peer schools to play a C team or etc. where or when we do like for instance BB there's similar situation we played there D team four or five times it's the same you know um what other sports are you finding this um so this year like soccer is going to

019be an interesting one uh we have uh men anticipating 50 on the roster two school uh a lot of them don't have JV. So, uh that's going to be an interesting one. Uh we'll reach out to bigger schools. Uh something we did this past year to get creative with it. For example, varsity has a game in Colorado Springs. And so, we're playing someone that doesn't have a JV. Hey, Mitchell. Hey, DHY. Something like that. Uh we're coming. Can we bring our JV and play your JV or C team or whatever? So labor intensive phone call tennis is definitely one. Uh we did that with uh with uh DHY for tennis. Uh there was 33 girls in tennis. Uh there's with six scoring spots per roster. Correct. And boys of golf is another one. We had

02020 on the roster there. Uh there's there's more. across girls and boys. I mean, track and field gets tricky, too, because you can only fit three athletes per event. So, just in some of these sports, it's easier to just have like a practice game where some of these kids, my daughter did track and field one each year, and she didn't even want to go to the competitions, which you can accommodate that much easier for track and field or cross country than you can volleyball, where you're sacrificing court space when you have 70 kids on a team. you know, how are you going to practice efficiently in a gym with people? Soccer is probably I do feel like outdoor it's a lot more flexible. Outdoor sports is a lot more flexible because there is a open

021air open space. Yeah. Uh while of court So let's take that idea and run with it a little bit. One of the policies here I think we should look at would be this R5 here which isn't necessarily going to be approved. It's not live. This first time I think one of the things we need to just say is do we want to be silent on this two adult policy or do we need to have a statement of this is our gen general statement. You could I could argue it both ways but I would really like I think the best way to handle it is say we have to have two adults practice on like 70 kids is a good example. Um, and so out of the monies you guys put in the budget, what we're

022looking at is about $8,000 per season. So 8,000 times three. And the Marco would have the ability to hire hourly people to pra for practice coaches because that's when it's hardest. You take tracks a good example. You can take 70 kids with less adults than it takes to train 70 kids. Same thing with um if you have a training person who just wants to just wants to be part of the volleyball team but not travel, you can have other people and have the money. And by doing practice coaches in that style, we can tap into our classified staff or hourly workers who cannot be coaches else you end up violating labor laws. This allows them to earn some more money, hang out with kids at night, um, which might be a match for their family

023life, but then they're not necessarily going on the games. Um, we're not paying for them on the bus, which then violates over time and all kinds of stuff. We can't click on that policy. Does it basically just say we always have to have You can't click on it. No, it's okay. Give me a hot second, Marco. Yes, sir. So, one of the questions I have is if you if you had so many girls want to play volleyball, would they be open to doing something else? Yes. Like if you chose a different sport? So, a couple of sports that I've got like kids approach me about, one is softball and the other is flag football. Flag football is a new sport with Chass. Is that a fall sport? Yes. And then softball spring or softball is

024in the fall as well. Softball. Is there anything else in the winter? Winter. Uh well technically it's not an official sport. Uh girls wrestling. Um we do have uh a couple of females that are going to participate this year. We are not advertising, hey girls, come out and play or participate in it. But it is an option for him. Uh title nine wise, I I can't say no to them if we have someone that wants to participate. But eventually that's going to be a sport that I need to add as well as uh girls wrestling. And then wrestling is a good example because then you have you have one wrestling room, one set of mats. How does that work? And that's when you start to get people coming in at 5:00 a.m. because that's when

025they got their practice. and you're going to have an angry parent because their kids can be the 5 a.m. parent. Um, and there'll be a freshman, you know, you'll get into that. That's we'll have to struggle through it. Um, I mean, we currently have it right now with middle school wrestling and high school. There's about a two week overlap period where middle school is coming in at six o'clock and then after that wreck wrestling comes in as well. So, there's quite a bit of overlap like that. I think Matt's talking about the practice players, if you will. Haven't really thought about that, but I definitely obviously don't do that. People um that to me kind of is probably more appropriate than cutting. I mean, I think it gives them an option to if you aren't

026willing to do this, then you know, there are other options, but it kind of keeps them involved. A parent, as a coach, like how would you go about red shirting 20 kids to know you are building your program, but they're still there. It's just it's I know it's a challenge, but I wish we could red shirt, right? I mean, it's just Oh, sorry. I I didn't think it was No, I mean, yeah, I think it's a it's an interesting one with soccer because next year we're expecting 50. Um I'm I mean, I have a really good pulse on the on the upcoming stream as well. So, I'm expecting about 40 the year after because we have big freshman class next year and then I've only got three or four the next year. So, that's the

027type of situation where you want to keep every kid and you want to push them to be like, "Hey, I want to create a great environment for you." So, what you're talking about, yeah, you want to keep them developing. You don't want to lose 10 kids and suddenly be in two years down to 30 again where you're trying to figure out now I don't have enough for a full JV. So it's complicated and I think the way we're doing it in soccer is we're basically you can schedule 20 JV matches and you can schedule CT matches and so we're trying to take on the workload of that. Like you said I'm willing to call anybody and say we'll drive to Denver with two teams and play two three games. Who wants who's want willing to

028play us? So, um, but I do think that to your point, I'm I'm always more pro not cutting and finding a way to keep kids involved in my program first because and that might be a scarcity mindset of having years where you only have 22 kids and we have 22 kids in soccer. Six kids just don't play. I mean, you you just don't have that. You don't have enough for a JV and the varsity is too big at that point to really get those bottom six in. So, maybe I've had enough years like that where I'm like, I'm willing to do whatever it takes to keep the program big and robust. But but yeah, having something where you could say like, hey, here's your option. Here's what I can give you as a coach still

029stay part of the program huge. And I think we tried to find successful ways and not just they were coming to Denver school, but there there are other smaller communities and I'm not saying we should put our de team up against the swash varsity, but I'm sure that there's a little bit of ways to merge those. I I don't know the logistics and planning and efforts, but I just think having something more along the lines of 30 kids on the volleyball team are on the practice team. I think we're going to get to a resource allocation issue and you're going to decide whether you want to pay for another person to be scheduling all those oneoffs all over the place because there's no system to do that or will you want to invest in more

030coaches and supervisors to run other activities? And the answer is yes, you're going to try and do both. Um, but I think one of the questions and maybe to to push on you guys is high what's the difference between high school and middle school sports? Because I know what the I think I know what the parents believe. I think parents and kids think that there's some performance issues that they want to perform when they get to high school and they move into that developmental stage. They're not interested in just showing up and being part of something. They actually want to perform. to talk to me. I mean, it's not a popular thing for me to say, I'm sure, but I'm also not that sporty. Um, I don't want to say I don't care about winning,

031but I would rather see kids showing up and being involved. And I would never want to be in a situation where we unrealistically imply to kids that they're going to do something in the future that odds wise they're really not likely to do. So, we got to cut these kids that don't live up to your standard because you think your kid is doing this when in reality your kids by not doing that. So, could we just, you know, I'm not saying give everyone a trophy, right? By any means. I'm saying keep kids involved. Find a way to keep kids involved and be realistic. Well, I guess I would push back on that. I don't I don't know that we need to really define if our philosophy is winning or not winning. Mhm. I think our

032philosophy is if we have coaches who care about kids and coaches who are showing up with good support from a strong athletic trainer and department and leadership, I think we will have leading teams. And you gave the example of, you know, Aeron's boys making it. And I mean, Kenny Wilcox has qualified the girls and boys for state almost every single year for 18 years, right? And we are in the most competitive region in 3A. for cross country. So to me, the issue is not that Kenny comes at it like let's try to win this season. It's because Kenny cares about kids and has kids invested and kids want to work hard for him because they know he loves them and cares about them. So to me, it all more comes back to our coaching, our

033training, our evaluating coaches and getting kids to feel connected and involved. And then I think the winning probably generally starts to happen. I feel a lot trying to help make a decision like this since I'm not a coach or even an athlete and uh I would be more prone to offer more help for assistant coaches and and let the coaches head coaches work out what needs to happen. And if assistant coaches aren't what they need, then we can try to figure it out from there. But I think having the opportunity for funding for assistant coaches is a good way start. It's kind of a blanket, you know, it's an easier blanket to Well, and it's certain that if you have more people, then you're more likely to have more connection with kids, right? Like the

034middle school track team this year had 70 kids. They had three paid coaches. And then Don was able to find another full-time volunteer who was willing to take a whole cohort of kids. So every day when those kids showed up, you had 70 kids broken into four groups and every kid connected with a coach every single day. How are you feeling? What's going on? What are you doing? So definitely having more bodies and more people provides more connection. So I agree with you. Then it's a question of priorities and we prioritize having students be involved because it helps them succeed and so looks like we need dollars towards it as much of a priority. And then David to answer your question to use your quote is yes and at our house we have a pin

035value of three. Two were there for the juice box and to belong and one was on fire. And so that's who's going to come to those teams, coach here as well. You just don't know who's who's coming, but we value the coming and then trust the coaches to look after them. What do you think? I I guess I I'm just circling back to this volleyball example and envisioning a gym with 70 kids in it. I just don't know how you manage that from a resource perspective. May maybe there is a way that it gets done, but I I just I don't I can't envision a good practice for any of the kids when you have 70 kids in a gym this small. No, volleyball is definitely maybe if you have another sport that preempts that

036issue anyway. It's not about cutting. It's adding options. Adding another option. Yeah. Well, that's kind of But then what happens if you have 70 kids say I want to play volleyball and you know only nine I mean I I don't think you can take the I'm not going to have a cutting policy off the table entirely. I think the way it's been postured is we don't want to do this but if X Y and Z happens we may have to and it's not the first option not the best one but you know you can't have a sustainable program with 70 kids in a gym right we've got four teams but we have middle school volleyball running also along with high school volleyball so really that number is even so there's 50 middle school girls and

03744 I believe this past fall. U and that's with three gyms and that's with no sixth graders. No sixth. Yeah, they got cut. And your other gym in the elementary school continues for rec programs K5 high school kids. No, you could do the 5 a.m. training. Um, that some districts do that. We may have to um to do that. Then you're that solves the facility thing and you have to find another coach to do that and then you have to find someone to compete against. I think what the why I wanted you guys to do this because no one's had this conversation is to say in general don't cut if you there may be some cases that's what it says up here to be allowed and it should drive additional activities to be added. There

038should be a relationship between this. We've maxed this one out, so we need to add capacity. Whether it's flag football for girls and is that a fall one? That's a fall one. That's fall. I think the challenge like think about volleyball at the high school there's a little bit more like expectation of building a program a little bit more help bigger facility and but like I think at the middle school level when we have a number of kids participating is where we really struggle because it's like well you're you're a parent that stuck around tonight can you help out because I need it and yeah we 50 volleyball girls and one very small space and about 30 of them 20 of them get ignored for most nights because it's like okay well I don't have

039the capacity to honest so on and so forth so and I think a lot of that too also came down to not having enough coaches right like it was kind of a last minute assembly group you have there's a lot of people in a community that want to help but they don't want to commit uh And that's kind of where we're at right now. Um, we're positions are open, positions are available, but Oh, you want me to commit? Commit? No. You know, that's the that's the nice thing about the uh hourly uh training coaches positions is that does allow for someone who might have a great expertise, but they whatever whether it's their actual job doesn't allow for them to commit or whatever. It allows for them to be involved without having that full full

040force commitment that a stipen position would. Well, and I'm sitting here listening to the the big one of the biggest issues is facilities, you know, the gyms, the fields. We live in an outdoor playground. So, why can we not use the river? There's kayaking, there's sing, there's lakes, there's, you know, surfing now. Why? We have a ski area. Why? We have a Nordic, you know, Nordic skiing, alpine skiing. We have rock climbing. we have. So those are activities that I'm sure many students in this district because I was very athletic but I was not into team sports. I was into skiing and hiking and backpacking and climbing and you know so for me I might have been interested in volleyball because my friends were and that was an option but we live in a playground

041you guys. So, is that an option to get volunteers or pay them hourly for someone to take three kids down and learn how to surf in the river or to in the winter take them Nordic skiing or we have so many opportunities here in our community that have nothing to do with our fields or our facilities? Um, more like outdoor club kind of scenarios versus an actual competition, right? I mean, there are they compete against themselves, you know? I I can um or ski during with your dog. I mean, there's just so much in our community that their parents do, I'm sure. Um, so anyway, I think we need to look outside the box of school related, you know, what we've been doing for 100 years, which is volleyball, football, you know, all these things.

042We have the opportunities in our community and um maybe throw some of those activities out to these kids and say, would you be interested in that? Now, logistically, I don't know how that works with volunteers and um training coaches or paying them, but maybe a thought that would be interesting to know how it works. Like, I know my high school friend who was not recent, but there was like a ski club at the high school club, whatever. Not Yeah, we can start to look at if you choose those kind of things and figure out what the siphon is for those sponsors. Um, I do think though we do want to add some sort of a two adult policy and just I I just think that that So if you want to add a ski club,

043you say, "Well, how much does it cost?" Transportation and then start with two adults. That's kind of your starting point to say, "How much can we afford that? Can we find two adults?" So we don't go, "Oh, we can find one. Let's just go with it." I think that's where we get in trouble. I mean, I appreciate the thought of a student policy. Russ is here. who's a golf coach and like you take a varsity golf team and Jamie here everybody else stays back says what's that mean you have four coaches involved for 10 kids on golf because you're taking two to tournament you have two in the practice like it's just like I think there's value to it but I do think there needs to be some realism yeah that's not always well and

044is the two adult policy as important If our other policies are very clear that one adult may never be alone with one kid, like isn't that more the issue we're trying to prevent? Is that safety piece? Yep. So maybe that's what you need to look at is because that's a good example. Like do we really need two adults or do we just need to make sure that that one adult is never alone with one kid? That's all I added is that statement for safe student supervision. must be two adults present at all times during student supervision which that can be other options but you run into false a good one cross country is another one break up into 12 pods running different lengths and all over town and I mean that's why a lot of

045people are just silent on the issue just a question to create the expectation then figure out how to manage it I mean I think in the example of cross country like that's a completely like unreasonable expectation to have two adults running with five kids over 16 groups of kids. I think to me the bigger issue is if you had one coach running with one kid or if you had one coach going to a tournament with one kid. Um and then I think this goes into the communication piece too and plan is that like we're talking about having very clear guidelines of one one coach is not texting one kid, one coach is not emailing one kid. coaches never emailing a kid about copying their parents. So I think these are more the things that we

046need to make sure are very clear maybe more than focusing on actually having okay scouts given their history really define that and then there's never one a one-on-one relationship there can be one adult with a group yeah but there can't be one that's I'm may have You may not have two coaches all the time, but it's exciting. And then I I wanted to say I'm with Matt on you. We have to keep cutting on the table, but I'm recalling my involvement in high school, which was even longer than Jim's. And sometimes I was that varsity kid, but sometimes I was not even close. But I still participated because my friends were there and I like that sport and I didn't succeed and suck the basketball on the team. So, do you, Marco, have those any

047insight on the kids that don't get to commute? Were they getting tired of playing BB volleyball? Did that matter to them or just belonging was enough? I know. Yeah, I I honestly feel like it might be more of an issue with parents. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Like I do believe the kids enjoy being part of it. I do believe like uh I I share this story all the time like one of my favorite things to do is look at senior uh the senior questionnaire. What was your favorite memory? Very rare. It's about hey that time we beat it's always like oh that time we went on the bus when blah blah blah did this it that time we were over like that right correct do you think if there was better expectations from the district that

048would be alleviated like was very well known that there's so many kids we're probably just playing this because they also have this kid problem Yep. We're gonna play 10 lines. That's part of I mean we do it in summer softball. Great. You know, and and I I know we need to do a a better job of like, okay, hey, yeah, BB's easy. or let's try and find someone else to you know so I fascinated by the students and it seems like more what you're saying is set the expectation with the parents like your kid is on the practice team your kid will be playing BB a 100 times and that's because they're on the practice team. And then maybe that would alleviate some of the parent concerns versus thinking maybe your kids's going to get

049to play more. Just to be clear up front, they're not. Yeah. I mean, like I said, the logistics of it, I would not want us to send the E team volleyball to quartz to play a match, but like there's enough in the valley maybe like this. I think there's probably a network that you have ads to be able to try to find, you know, hourish rides for those types of games because it's going to be shorter and sweeter and all those types of things. I think it's fair to, you know, know that that's something that needs to be communicated to parents logically. Not everyone can play them every day. Would you rather have your student practicing being in community or will be the other side of it from like yes I would like to win

050everything we do not my highest value but also like I don't think we should just hey we're going to send this team to play the varsity 100% yeah I couldn't agree more but just setting that expectation in advance and then maybe those parents are requesting a sport and that becomes an easy transition alleviating some of the numbers I think the issue with parents is probably going to get worse, not better. Just looking at how the community is changing and I don't know if folks been following what happened with Valley Christian recently there and your football coach and their ad. I know that it was the same issue the football coach resigned because of the parents because there was this culture of winning that was this expectation that you know my kids go to the school

051to win state championships and and there was an assistant who resigned who said he spent 20 years coaching in the NFL he's never dealt with anything worse Christian so I think that's a cultural issue that we need to be aware of and as a district to set the expectation that's not what we're expecting of our kids, you know, or as a as a community that I don't know, but I think it needs to be said. They also set that expectation funding because they just set that expectation like we're hiring too and so right for what it's worth there's an expectation for sure coach like 110. All right. Is there anything else on this that give me some things I can do some editing um to capture some of your thoughts that helps? Um I'm going

052to jump over to kind of coaching expectations. Do you guys try to put out there are we that there's on those three different kinds of coaches, right? You guys get a chance to look at that. Do you have thoughts about concept? I I looked at it. I don't know how much I retained but um I do think one of the other problems just part of it is for program development is it really is year round. Um, and that's very difficult to do unless there's like a passion behind it because you're going to be running camps and offseason activities and uh I know there's part of this is another discussion, but like weight training and conditioning and all those components that are really stable for a good program and that's year round. I don't know how

053our stipens work and things of that nature. Um, I could do it, but I wasn't the greatest hire as a freshman in college to run the weight room for a couple summers. But like that's what we got. That's why I have para. Thank you. Buy as many years as you can. But one of those things where it's just like, you know, those would be things that I would say are how do you set those expectations with kind of the cost benefit piece of yeah, it's going to be really tough for me to justify spending my summer in the weight room when I got paid, you know, six grand to run the football team. So I I money doesn't solve all the problems, but like there is a money component for sure that's going to be

054challenging to figure out. Yes. Do you want to pay people a flat rate no matter how they do what they do, whether they do the extra or the little, or do you want to pay people who learn more or get more? Do you want That's That would be the key question. Do you want to pay the people who do more more or you want to pay everybody the same regardless of what they do? The current situation is you pay everybody the same regardless of what they give and they just get their second level every year. I get a 200 bucks or whatever it is extra because they came back the next year. I would like to pay more for when they do one. you know, there was a part of the conversation of certain sports

055get beat and there's a there is an added pressure to that, but also like um again collegiately there are some schools that have a variety of programs thanks to the Alabama football program like right so it's just I getting gate doesn't necessarily turn into we should pay that sport coach more because we start with the basics Do you want to pay people flat rates regardless of what how much they give or do you want to pay people more who do more? I think we should ideally pay more for people who do it's very difficult to do in the school system where we've been able to do the same. But this is not education but this still has parameters and guidelines like it's not like we just decide to randomly give this coach. You can change

056in the qualifiers of how you do that. But the key thing you have to decide is because it tells us right now if all you say come out of this is really all I want is participation and just pay people who are willing to volunteer and you have the system you've arrived. If you're looking for any other part of the system then you need to change lots of different things. We think about it differently. I mean, I think I am maybe opposite of what you are, Mandy. I'm where um I think all of our coaches do more work than what we pay them. 100%. 100%. No one's um but I um how much more hiring do we need to do to defi to be able to say assess well this team's record is this, this

057participation is this, the time they spend with this. I'm not interested in um the differentiation. Okay. I'm not saying that it's irrelevant or unusful. It's just not as much a priority as maybe Mandy has. So, Mandy, persuade me. Talk to me about how would you define more? Well, I guess I was just going to say that we have had coaches who have done the bare minimum and we have current coaches who currently do the bare minimum. And I think we see how that affects the kids. So I think that's what I'm saying like pay more to do more is if a coach is really investing in kids and doing training modules to learn about nutrition and mental health and sports and injury prevention, I would rather pay that coach more than the coach who's just

058going to sit there and shows up to practice and doesn't even have a practice planned and there's no drills. and then they just are like, "Okay, just scrimmage for the next hour." Right? So, to me, I do feel like it's if we're if we're always looking at what's best for kids, what's best for kids is to have engaged coaches who are actually engaged in learning and doing better and wanting to improve their program. And I don't think that you get that from most people unless you get them. How cute is this? It's kind of what I said out. Well, you got a coverage coach would be maybe one way to think about it. The thank god appreciate you're here. You're a warm body and we are so thankful. Here's money. Show up and be a

059warm body and be professional and safe for the kids. Where did I get that? This would be this coaching expedition or it's on the plan in a different way. So, you've got it in more than one place. tried to throw it at you trying to solve this impossible problem. Oops. I mean, coverage versus coverage. And then I think you have to balance like these training modules with the fact that they're still getting paid way less than the hours they're putting in. So, I think the tricky piece is not putting too much on coaches of like, okay, we're still not paying you very much, but we'll pay you a little more if you can do all these trainings. Like I think that's the tricky part is having expectations but then recognizing that there's not enough time

060or money on the table ever you know most of our coaches hourly rate is probably like 50 cents if you really look at what they put in you know yeah I think I've said this a little bit I don't know how you solve it because probably a some control having a few coaches that burn themselves out is like administrative like I got to deal with I got to deal with the buses. I got to deal with eligibility. I got to deal with all these things versus just I can go and coach everything. So I've been saying for a while like I think we're going to need more administrative monies for different things to help support various levels. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I know that's one of the things I saw somewhere maybe in your next

061steps of like looking at outlining coaching duties. I think that would be definitely a good survey to put out to all of our current coaches is like what is the stuff that you do that one you don't want to do or two you don't think should be your responsibility that you think an admin assistant in the office could handle and save you a ton of time because we can't put more on coaches if we're not taking something off, right? Yeah, layering expectation and we're still doing a lot of Yeah, you're a delineation of duties between coaching. So, we just as we uh somewhat consider state averages and so forth for teacher pay, are we considering averages for 3A sports? We would like to, but I need to have clarity on what you expect, what you

062what kind of volunteer system, and it's a paid volunteer system. to pay to you. Is it just thank you for showing up, being grateful and loyal, then we can look at the other systems and look and see if we need to put $500 more here or $1,000 more here and or do you want to build a system that compares it to other things to say here's what people are paying for quality factors? Then we did run that analysis too. Jim Samson ran the same analysis that he runs for our teacher pay with the coaches. It's trickier because there's a lot of different variables that go into them. Like some some schools pay the same way we do currently on a salary schedule. Some schools pay off of different um like David said this type of

063model where it's like okay we've taken this training so you get this amount of money and so on and so forth. So it's hard to compare exactly. So I think to David's point it's worth figuring out what's the model we want to go with and let's find the schools to compare how they're doing it to try to get a market analysis. pretty close right now though. Okay, I understand that. I just don't know if we're like half of the bottom or are we right in the middle? Yeah, right now we're fair we're fairly close. The problem is fairly close at that is different than a teacher salary because it's $1,000 maybe one way or the other, but that's 20%. So it's like is that fairly close? I I don't know if it's actually fairly close,

064but if So I mean we're in the like when we compared to Manitou for example, we're very close. than a couple hundred dollars on most of our sports. Um, and they're a similar size school. They're on our teacher list and they pay similar to how we pay currently. So, there's we've done that comparison, but it is it is more more complicated than just doing the teacher salary comparison for sure. I can tell you that we are running out of volunteers. Volunteerism is not strong. Um, Salida has a lot of volunteerism with that commitment piece that Marco was trying to articulate. like it's not a growing value, it's a shrinking value. While at the same time, as this community becomes suburban, the values on performance, as Matt was trying to say, continue to increase. That's why

065it's important that you state what your philosophy is, and then let Marco figure it out. It's going to cost you more money, but you've already set some aside no matter what. How much more depends on what your values are and what your position is on these impossible topics that can't be solved. It won't go away. It will not make everyone happy. Um there's no like win-win in some of these. Yeah. This is very coach heavy but should very well be translated into who's in charge of our activities and things of that nature. to some extent it is. But as I was trying to build a different model for you, it was can you make this and Google performing arts, you can figure out how to do that, but I'm not going to do all the

066translation from translation from translation models. If if really what once you have a chance to talk about it, let it breathe. I just want as much participation as possible and thanks for coming out. If that's that's the system, then I can build that system. Um the Marco is I think we need to pay more for people. Yeah, that that's time license too that this we're going to pay everyone the same regardless of what you do over you know what your performance is doesn't it doesn't sound right to me because there's some sports that there's just going to be a lot more to it. You know, you go into depending how far you go in the postseason, you could add a month or more depending how much sport you're a significant time difference. You could just

067figure it all out, maximize all the participation. We're going to solve I guess just so so Mandy. So the more could be defined as completing modules going um going on to postseason play numbers and involvement. What are the other variables of how we can describe that? It was the base pay participation pay. So right there I mean you have it as 250 for 10 kids. Could you guys just I just was trying to make a model of like and then multiple teams right? So, if you're a coach that has to technically be in charge of a varsity JB team, you should probably get paid more. Yeah, it's in it's in this activity paper. Okay. I mean, I kind of am with Joe. Like, yes, I get that the gate fee that you're performing in front

068of people, but I also don't necessarily feel like you should get paid more because you're performing in front of people because you chose to coach football and not track. Like, I don't know. I mean, you co you're coaching mountain biking. your kids are still performing, your results are still getting posted. So, I don't know. I don't really feel like they should get paid more for their agree. That's the only one I disagree with. Um, then tried to make some different training tiers, right? So, that's the sort of thing some posting money. So, what it would look like that sense and then actually go through and here's the modules of what you want your kids to do. You need everybody to take, we don't do this right now, a module that talks about communication, like this

069is how you communicate. It's not a do what you want DIY communication structure. You're working with miners. Well, and I think we've also seen some of this in the past. We have seen coaches texting kids inappropriately. We have seen coaches having contact with kids on Sundays. So, I think some of those clear chassis communication guidelines also need to be put into this. So the coaches are communicate on Sunday. Oh, you can now. Okay. Still, but there's a professionalism piece. You don't want anybody's with kids. I don't actually want coaches communicating with my kids on Sunday personally. Like to me, that's your rest day. You don't need a coach. Um, and also understanding it's relational. Like, so anyways, we need some We don't have that. That would be that would be an increase in expectation. just

070understanding how to work with kids professionally and developmentally and you know they're not in the NBA and they're also all those different pieces and parts and then you could start to go through some of the other um modules. So I've laid it out a couple different ways. there's a solution way to do that to train and if if people do that and pay them more right if they're willing to understand the difference between fitness and strength and conditioning and movements. Yeah, they should pay be paid more. Not all our coaches know this. Your coach, would you do those modules get paid more? I think doing modules isn't going to make you a better coach. It's not going to get you to spend more time with it. Would Marco, would this require additional staff outside of

071classrooms? What do you mean by Um would we have to hire another assistant, another staff member just to help you um with this coaching uh payments and tracking of the completions and stuff like that. I don't know how to actually answer that at this moment. Uh just um I know like we've made some changes uh in terms of with Cassy's position where she's not as much over facilities but so I think I have her like um right just keep adding to our very dedicated so we don't quite know that I mean I suppose another way to look at this versus paying more to do more is we we've been working hard on evaluations for coaches. So I suppose we could also look at a model of we evaluate our coaches and then we're a little

072bit more careful in saying you're not meeting expectations, you're done. And so then if you have like a seven and level kind of scenario, your coaches who are continuing to come back year after year are clearing good evaluations every year and meeting expectations and your coaches that aren't aren't. So technically your coaches that are doing more and more investing better coaches are going to be getting paid more because they're going to stick around. Is your guys expectation participation or do you have any quality expectations? I have quality. Let's state what the expectations are. Yeah, I would say it sounds very loudly. We have quality obviously participation piece of it is important because all the correlations um this is not a problem to solve tonight but it is the introduction to the conversation. If you absorbed

073all of this and know it all, kudos to you. I assume all of us took so much in and were swimming in it. And this will allow us to come back to future conversations, future more details and things of that nature so that we can set more clear expectations that seem to be around higher quality and things of that nature. Well, maybe four years ago, we were at downstairs in Crest, I believe, and you were presenting to us. you talked about um excellence and participation and in our in our I don't know if you can remember what you taught us. I just know you taught us. Can you remember about how where are the students on this and I put you I totally put you on the spot for talking. So maybe if you know

074I I will say uh the only reason why I want to win is because it's fun. Like right when I've had% Yeah. Uh when I've uh had a lot of success Yeah. You know like people want to be part of it, people want to want to join. Um, you know, I I don't think anyone wants to go and get beat up every time they show up. But, uh, so that's why like my goal is always like we want to take care of kids. We want to treat them right. We want to create an environment that they want to be part of. And then uh if I'm doing everything right in terms of building that appropriate relationship with that kid, it will the wins will and obviously okay. So that was a discussion get you guys

075started. I don't know if Joe's other stuff, but bringing that back. I definitely don't want to make Marco chase something that we don't want to chase. It's a lot of work, right? So, over the summer, please be thinking about that stuff and we'll hang tight and listen to your comments and questions as you think about that. And if the answer is I've got everything we expect, then we're doing great, right? We win the titles every season and having fun. So, alltime high participation, we're doing we're a good spot. went through something else and make sure we say it so we can put that clearly from this room and not from someplace else. David, would this be helpful to have one or two board members on go through feedback, things of that nature? I'd be glad

076to have help. I need one of If you're going to do that, I've already been taken. I feel like if you're going to do that, you should have two people, which I would recommend. Otherwise, it looks like one person driving. Okay. Well, I I do think Well, I mean, we have activities kind of have a large tech plan kind of come down. Um, you know, I think there's a few more things that we can work on in the summer. I would imagine to some extent this will be an August grind that we can talk about more and maybe when we decide who does what N. So, but I think obviously looking through getting some feedback there's been a few things clear off activities things like that but details participation is important but yeah I think

077I will say I appreciate this board because we kind of time and time again accept where we're at and want to push for more. did that a few years ago with curriculum standards and like we're doing so great but we're pushing more and I think that's what we're doing with activities and technology be the next one that we do that with. So appreciate you guys digging in. Any other thoughts? Who's helping Jody or Mandy? I can help. I think as long as we have good policies in place, at some point you need to trust like David and Marco to uh run the program and get most involved at the highest level. All about represent. All right. Seniors only. Okay. Discussion items. We get to get through the priority review and then we'll take a quick

078break. Hearing no objections. 2425 priority review. David ready. Um I sent you guys stuff ahead of time. What questions do you have? You can take it wherever you guys want to. This is the review, not the future. Oh, I'm so glad I I'm so fired up about our target and and what we've done and I already talked with David about that one little gap and and he's working on it. So, I was completely [Music] technology. It was in technology. Oh, and the Yeah, right there you just highlighted. can't see what it is, but and that that's a yeah, the essential skills on technology, but that's that's kind of growing as a partnership with CMC and that new feature. I think that's what you need to work on next fall. It's getting a little clear. Yeah.

079Yeah, I mean I said it earlier, we have a really robust meeting because of all that we got done this year, which is usually what this target plate is and what this whole update is. Um so good. No, I mean I think there's obviously a few things in each that maybe we didn't do as thorough or finish like we thought we would, but like frankly certain things like some of the some of the facilities things have just like ongoing and like oh we're coming to a culmination on a couple of this is incredible and really being able to get through in my view the policy audit the last two years and kind shift CBT back to where it's in a good space. Um, and then it's like obviously we know kind of some of the

080things we're doing with new hires and things of that nature for um some of the programming and academic stuff, but like just seeing everything we've done and every year we seem to say this is way too much, but we do get most of it done. Um, working to a place where we feel we're good to kind of wrap it up in the next year. So, I feel really good. I feel like we like usual got a hell of a lot done. So, a lot of that is you, David, and your team and pushing on and getting things done. So, kudos to you. And um next year should be a little bit lighter, but I say that every year. So, we didn't have that for a while. Now, we have it. It's really nice. with them

081for four or five years. So, I don't know if anybody has anything specific in here to clarify or further comments. I know we'll talk more about the future plates in the August calendar meetings. here and none. I'll just say I'm really proud of the team. They got a lot more done than I realized. So, exciting. Got a good year set for next year. It's always good when reflect back and see what you've accomplished. So, you do a good job of celebrating what we get done. Okay. Um, five minute break, 10 minute break. We'll jump back into action. Okay, quick break and we'll jump into action items. [Music] something [Music] All right, we're back. We're back and Karen left us. All right, Karen, we're starting. Sorry. Um, looks like we have no second readings of policies.

082So we're done. We'll do that one more time for you. Okay. Looking for a motion on action item B. Approve athletic transition. David talked about this lightly in his video and conversations, but David, do you have anything you want to add before we ask some questions? Um, I think it's connected to how you want to do your activities program. Do you It's connected how you want to do your activities program. I think you have to may have to answer that question first before you can do this. Um because if you're just looking for participation and you're not looking for people really learning how the body works and nutrition and everything else or you're not worried about how the weight room gets used, um then you don't need someone to oversee how the weight room gets

083used or how kids develop their programs, right? Those two are related. If you're going to have expectations uh making sure the weight room is appropriate for the movements that those kids are trying to do, then you probably need somebody who that's their day job. um to do that space. I think that to me I would rather see us invest in those things because our participation is so good than to hire more administration to just chase even more participation at other levels. Um I think that this gaps and this capacity piece is more important to me as I view the system. That's my third. And you made a comment that Jesse thinks that this would be somebody that would be great to teach or he would like to see this person teach like one section we

084call it one class a day. So they're also teaching some of those we'll call them medical pathway stuff that some of the kids are interested. So some of the kids could also get exposure to this whether that's more of the nutrition and the physiology. Um, but some of those kids that are really interested in these careers, particularly when you've been an athlete, when you're, you know, 14 through 18, you're like, "Oh, I want to do more of that." Um, it could be helpful to get some of that exposure and say, "Oh, actually, I don't want to do that." Or, "I really love taping people's feet. It's so much fun to me." Um, then, you know, I think that there's something there that could really help kids in their career development. So that's kind of what

085I was going to ask because we know that the high school we're still waiting to see if we have gaps and need more electives teachers. This could potentially help fill that gap. But I wanted to know the difference between what our current health and PE teachers are teaching versus what the expectation would be for this person to teach. If they had a section, it would be something around career of athletic trainer. So it would be different. It would be different. would add an elective another option for our kids with the schedule that needs to keep growing. I mean that sounds very different to David and beneficial. Yeah. Yeah. What a great What's your timeline on this? I don't think you have to make the decision tonight, but we've never seen it before. And if we

086wanted it in place by fall, you'd have to make it tonight. If you aren't sure about what you where your values sit for programming, then you could table this and come back in August and figure out where it fit. It also lets me go and talk to a hospital and have a conversation with them. But there's a call it safety and security because of the new relationship occurring to have with the athletic trainer program or whatever you want to call it with the hospital in that there's three athletic trainers shared between the whole state. I'll say not that much. 14 14 districts, two of them being the taxpaying districts of the immediate slide. All the rest not paying taxes but sharing those positions and those athletic trainers are halftime employees um and then halftime athletic

087trainers. So it's not just that they dedicated athletic trainers and there's no guarantee that they'll be here, right? I mean if they're halftime and not the best system. worked out. They they might not they haven't traditionally stuck around. No, thus far it has not been a successful thing and you're not getting just basic medical coverage at your events. So, I think that should improve. Um, but it's also important what are your values? Do you want someone teaching coaches or kids nutrition and different workouts? So, or you just want people doing whatever they do in the weight room and stuff. I think it would be really nice to have someone on staff who has a chance to get to know our individual students and athletes. I really support them physically. I think we have to answer

088the first question and I don't think board's quite ready to do that. So, I don't know. I'm not even ready to talk about a trainer yet. I mean I'd be interested in talking about it if it means not having it the way you said the first question activities right participation or excellence you know show coverage versus you know that question will drive this decision I mean for me they're totally separate issues you have the athletic trainer is more about safety and health the kids first and foremost. Sure. Um, yeah, I don't see the connection. I could see it a little bit of a connection, I guess, with having a athletic trainer with maybe helping the excellence. Probably not participation part of that equation. But, but to me, the more important part is having somebody there

089full time that's going to be looking up your notes. So this has been rep this would replace what we have now with the three of the 14 districts. That's what I guess I'm not understanding. I don't know the answer to that question. The hospital has been nonresponsive and we've asked them lots of these questions. They've not offered any anything. Um so we can't really tell you the answer to that question because we have no communication that allows us to do that. Do we currently pay for our portion of the athletic training? No. Salida and BB citizens pay the hospital just under $900,000 but we as a district do not have anything in our budget that helps pay for that support because their thought is they are bringing all those kids in to their physical therapy

090department and so it benefits them to offer this service. Yeah, Mandy, it's talking to them. It it is about what districts they have clinics in. Um, so like they have clinics in the valley that are specific HRMC clinics. Um, and so they have those clinics there. That's why they support students with athletic trainers in that area. They, the conversation we did have is it's consider they consider it a service. They would say they lose money at it. And at the same time, they would say that they do it where they have clinics because that has the opportunity of potentially bringing people into the clinic. Marketing. Yeah. So it's I wouldn't they would probably not call it marketing or at least they didn't in the meeting. They're kind of of course but but at the same

091time it's it's they were also saying yes we do it where we have clinics and it is not related to taxing but it is a community service project. So it's potentially we have a different intention or reason for wanting to have that person in the building ourselourney. David, so um the Car Rocky's taxation district is Chaffi County. It's Chaffi County and so our service area is much larger than that because it's a regional medical district is right. I'm just making sure I understand that we're you say the two tax districts, school districts are BD and Salida, correct? those citizens pay, right? So, Kodapaci has the benefit of those those three athletic trainers. Correct. But the citizens aren't paid. Correct. They're not part. Right. Right. Right. That comes with it. Right. Yeah. And and the tax

092the tax portion is a very small part of their revenues. That is true. Sure. It was I mean the audit I haven't looked at the most recent audit so I don't have last year's but the prior year was 820,000 or somewhere in that ballpark. So it's it's you know out of more likeund I don't spot right this second but more in the range of like 130 to 150 million revenue. It's not like a huge chunk of their revenue. Fair. Right. I appreciate that but it's really I I didn't quite understand that. Now I do. I guess there's there's an assumption too with this being on the agenda that maybe we haven't talked about is you know assuming the current system is not working capacity and maybe that needs to be explained by you know David

093I think that us we have had that direct conversation we're waiting for some sort of reply of any ideas they might have I mean, can you tell us other than wanting our potential expanded programming like we're talking about with coaches and teaching these electives, like if we take all that off the table, what is it is the biggest issue with the athletic trainer currently that they're just not available and they're not around and they're not present and so our kids really aren't getting care when they need it. I wish Marco was here, Mandy, because I I believe that we had at least two football games this year where we didn't have an athletic trainer. Um, don't quote me on that 100%, but I do know we were looking at all kinds of options throughout the

094week and we only had like five home football games. Um, that's ones where you want an athletic trainer at you want athletic required by Chassel to have an athletic trainer at our defense. That I don't know the answer to. I mean that seems like something we should definitely know the answer to because if that's a requirement by chass which makes me think it's it is not a requirement. It's my understanding that I check but you don't I do not send I'm going to guess that the golf coach would say they've never seen an athletic trainer at any event anywhere at any time. Do you know um What is Chess's priority as the principal high in terms of an electric an elective teacher or an electric? No. And in terms of looking at if we were

095going to add an elective teacher, would this be the most important type of elective teacher? Well, I think David was just saying that they would teach perhaps one would add a little. So, it would just add a little, but it really wouldn't replace the need for potentially another electives teacher in another year. Just trying to expand career development for kids. Make sure that they have someone who can help the sports who are most likely to be an athletic trainer and then also who's going to help develop that culture you might want that has more knowledge than just show up and all the balls. I'm a huge proponent of having our own athletic training. I think as a board probably our most important mission is to keep our students safe. Is this probably true? It's the

096first one. Yeah. The uh and so if we're going potentially a big football game or a lot of a lot of sports going without a trainer there. Not the trainer is a paramedic or something, but they are their goal is to help keep our students safe. I think it's safe to say that the hospital district or whoever's making the decisions, their number one goal for our students isn't necessarily their safety. I'm not sure that we need to partner with them. I mean, I would love for somebody else to pay for an FFL and uh but I don't want to maybe not have a vote tonight if it means not having no chance of having one in the fall. And if we don't have one in the fall, there's a chance we wouldn't have one all

097next year. So, I don't like that. And is there a way to vote to approve it without necessarily hammering out all those details and still be able to talk to hospital? Try to have a good relationship with them. There are always ways if we're just talking about how to functionally do it. So you'd amend your motion. I need I would have to move his motion to say approve a oneT 1.0 FTE based on a teacher salary schedule. There's the first thing. Um, if the hospital is unwilling to participate, you could amend the motion or you could table it until we have all those conversations and details and give me a directive to go talk to the hospital and and nail that down and then we come back in August and approve that and we can

098start working at that point or the hospital will have solved it all. There be no conflict. Hasn't happened yet. It has not happened to date. No. What would the motion do exactly differently motion? Allow me to go talk to the hospital. If they rejected it, then I would post the position and go hire them versus correct. So you that's I was just trying to take what Ben said. So your thought would be to ask the hospital for a full-time dream. Um, I want to do whatever the board suggests, but you could because I guess I'm just curious what we're currently we have three and 13 districts. So, we actually need to just determine if this is a priority for us to have because there's no way you go to the hospital and they go from

099a model of three for 13 to giving us one person there's a new CEO. But then are they going to give but then are they going to give a trainer to all of those 13 districts? Like I so I think we need to determine our priority on like you said looking at student safety and and care for our kids and if we feel like it's important then maybe we have to move forward and we can still ask the hospital but I don't see how we get a full-time athletic trainer. I don't see that and maybe it's more important to have someone on staff who is answering to the district and the needs of our students versus getting more kids in whatever that is. Our financial outlook is a lot different than theirs and so if

100you don't mind maybe they can improve the what they do for the 13 districts I think it is. You guys know me. I'm reluctant to add folks that aren't in the classroom and I want to put those. So, that's my only reluctance to do that. So, you can't get what you don't ask. Or can we have both? Can we still use the hospital trainer occasionally when they show up and have our own? So, it may not be a full time, but it'll be better than we have now. Good point. I I think the the correlation to the activities is pretty strong. I think based on this seems like a very unique role if we're going to have a teacher teaching these things and then spending time kind of medically take care of the kids. I

101just I'm trying to figure out what their dayto-day looks like or obviously when there's activities and events like it's very like they're on site and traveling but they're not doing that practices to help the things like I can understand that training conditioning those types of components that tie in activity stuff we just talked about but putting in electives on I you know, that would happen in the fall. Maybe it will, maybe it's spring. Um, obviously I see this blossoming into something that CMC helps with and takes over to some extent even um programming for their needs um for the community. But I'm in favor of it, but there's definitely some questions and part of me is like Ben, I'm like, I'd rather approve it, move forward with it so that we have something going sooner

102than later, even though there are some details. I I guess I'm not seeing the need of motion necessarily. I think we can as a board I think seems like at least there's a fair amount of us you to continue having those conversations but with the hospital but also want to move forward on this this having a burden on this as well. Does anybody see it differently? If it gives you any help, then we amend. But is it what is it helpful for you? If you're going to be discussing uh what's helpful is you guys just really getting clear about what you want and then I can go make that happen. So if you have a strong opinion that the hospital should be addressing this, then I go take that forward. If you have a strong

103opinion that let's move on forward, the hospital isn't responsible for this as as a tax base, then let's you think it's important and we just solve it and move on without that partnership. So, do we have guidance from Marco and any head coaches of any programs who use the athletic trainer more than others that they all feel like our current situation is certainly not working? They all want a full-time athletic trainer. I mean, I guess I'm just generally what I see the athletic trainer doing is handing a bag of ice and KT taking an angle. So, I guess I would like a little clarity on apart from the activities piece. Do we feel like this is a really essential role that we're missing that is really impacting our kids safety because we don't have that

104person there? I just don't know that I can answer that without knowing what the current person does for the football team and the soccer team. I mean, do you use him with the soccer team a lot or who Yeah, I can I can give context to that. I can also tell you I just texted Marco to ask him what how many football games we had somebody miss and he said we had three or four games that he did not have an athletic trainer at a football game this year. Um and so and then also Yeah, I mean three or four home games I believe. So it's actually about how many home games. Yeah. So unless he misunderstood more than Yeah. Um and so I mean listen I think it's important to say that the the

105trainers that we have had have been awesome. Um so we had an amazing one this year that went with us on all of our state tournament games. We rare. Well, we had coverage at times throughout the season and it's a huge benefit even as a coach where when one kid gets hurt on your bench and you're trying to figure out how do I manage that injury while at the same time there's still a bunch of kids I'm trying to manage on a bench and on like there's a safety aspect in that for sure. Um especially in that type of sport. Um and a supervision aspect that's really important. And it's definitely more than just KT tape. I mean, when he came to like the final, I mean, he probably spent two hours before the game

106working on seven or eight different athletes that were dealing with some type of niggling injury across the way. So, um, yeah, I think it's important. I I do. Um, and especially, I mean, there's some sports that it's more than others, for sure. There's a lot of times with like a um a soccer injury where something happens and you go, "Okay, well, we can ice that for now and get you to a clinic or whatever." But there's also plenty of times where we have a ambulance at the football game. Like that's it seems to me like somewhere you want somebody there is trained to to be present all the time. It would be super helpful too because the other problem I have is I don't have some when somebody does get hurt I'm like go see

107the trainer and they're like well I went to their office four times this week and they were never there. So I I am available with the trainer. Um, but we've had with so the hospital's credit when they've had great people. Like all the trainers they've had have been really great. I've been very committed and have been willing to travel all over the place to to do the job. So, um, to that credit, I don't want that to sound like they're doing a bad job because the ones we've had very I think that the other component again doesn't really activities, but I think there's probably a lot of weight room injuries, we'll say, and other that are just experience and not trained in the right ways for the right sports you're playing in that nature that

108somebody with a better background. I do think there are some need for more clarity on what their dayto day is but it's worth the other thing that came up just thinking about it the biggest thing that happens in a game that's really helpful to have an athletic trainer because we're coached on it every year I coach soccer multiple capacities I have to take it three times concussion training but having an athletic trainer who's there when somebody gets hit and being able to really actually diagnose and be a part of that where you're not trying to manage that while dealing with other kids. That's that's challenging for sure. And some of those contact sports, that's one of the biggest ones is having an athletic trainer who's knows all of that and is really watching it closely

109because that's one of the most dangerous things we deal with now. That's also can sneak up on you pretty quickly if you're not really observing that kid. Well, and it also sounds like something you said that made me think of this is if if you as a coach have an injured kid and he's home to go get a trainer and they can't and then they can't get cleared, then we have kids not able to participate and then we have a lot of loss of interest and attention. If they sit out for a couple weeks at a time, they're able to come back. Um, and I know a gap that I've seen is just sort of a when an athlete's injured, sort of a return to to play plan, um, is really difficult because you kind

110of do your initial PT and then you get cleared by your surgeon and then you're sort of on your own. So, I do think that is also a role that could be helpful with this person. David, may I ask? I really value um and it's strange when there's an rank order of um operational yeah this comes out so so that framing really helps because I know that you have all the principles with you on that I value that is there I know we don't really helps yeah it's a great question we haven't really gone through and looked at all the activities in that Okay. So, it's just the activity. Um that was one thing and then we're also hopeful that the hospital would respond some insight on what they were thinking of other options. It

111is really nice that Colorado does provide this service. It's one of the rare cases where we don't match them or contribute as well for their benefit. I mean, I'm reluctant to let go of that and maybe ask if we could have a little bit more focus maybe on B and Ca. I don't know. I'm not sure that that's true. We Which which part of that? The athletic trainer sends a lot of people to the hospital. They send a lot of fathers who complain about their sore elbow and that talk to the athletic trainer during a volleyball ball game. Like there are a ton of referrals. They definitely make out on this deal. Okay. That that's nice. Okay. So they do benefit from it. What you think? Which is good. And there's also I have been

112in and I don't go to a whole lot of sport games, but I have been in the gym in the wrestling either for wrestling or for volleyball and basketball and have seen kids hit their head and the person that evaluates them is a retired trainer in the bleachers because there's not one. So they they play a large role and like I said I really would appreciate uh the hospital helping with that but I almost would rather be independent and not have any any other influence just their money you know my priorities are is space bank and faster construction so that's my that's my would tell you yes we what would tell you yes we can I can tell you I mean it's yeah I mean that's you're never going to say over something else like

113you're choosing to spend it you're choosing to not spend on something else that but I mean it's always over something else exact yeah exactly so the question is I guess the question is what you've approved so far could you approve this and afford it the answer would be yes I do think we have more room as I was telling full meeting on our revenues and I shared that in the last meeting that I think we're going to see that in the amended budget. I think you're going to see some changes to the benefits the amended budget that's gonna yeah I think it's going to be much closer to 100% budget by amended budget this year. So I mean yes and it's not as expensive as you think. I mean that was one of the questions

114I asked them directly was how much does an athletic trainer make and it's basically um an MA teacher is is the salary basically. how they don't have to have as many credentials. It's still board certified. Um, and so yeah, there there's it's basically that salary just above and not it's not even at the top of our schedule. So it would be very possible as a teacher posted as a teacher all the details. It basically be do you know beforehand if they're going to be there or not or do they just show up they're either there or not there? I don't. No. Does anybody know like if we did both if we hired our own and we continued using the hospitals and they coordinated their schedules so we always have a trainer every you know more

115options but you don't but I guess that would be a whole another we the ones that they I do know again they they really push football as a number one just because especially concussions but they're still there at every game. Yeah. I mean, let's just be honest, dude. Is that okay? It's hard. Um, so, but I mean, that's like that's the one I know Parker pushes on a lot, but soccer unless it's a a big there's moments where it's right because I'm thinking what Joe is saying, how would we know like what is your schedule and how but if we move to the hospital, very downward. trying to see. I think this I don't know. Okay, next one. Approve $30,000 contribution to student or school resource officer. So, We've talked about this for a little

116while. for a few months. August I wonder I had a things I read this one says 30,000 so I didn't know that was That's what I ties in all the current sort of law enforcement cooperation formula that allows local plans for that to So I mean if we conclude some jurisdiction You guys can see I just sent you. That's what it is. Okay. We need to figure out what she wants to do. future position. ITA curious about adding the wording and as much as If we did have some MS we want ice going in force or would we want an SRO that has potentially a relationship and that you can't answer that but the officer on scene chief might be able to say yeah yeah this might be a lot better somebody do might be

117better to have the army. I kind of think it's a decision. Well, my concern isn't the coordination between agencies. My concern is local law enforcement. It does occur. It seems like policy. It's deputized to enforce immigration law. That's the difference. Certainly, they got to follow the law. But when you say, "Okay, now as a local jurisdiction, you're going to enforce your immigration. I know this person. not saying that you just wake up one day like what would have to change have to change the city of government I don't see that happening but Just keep it easy. I can bring the back with both those options in there. federal issue right now say that that well and I think monetarily I'm always showing sense give those teachers more money give them more money give more money

118but it's you know when they came and talked to us it's not always about the money and in the survey they were very clear that they like having her there and so we're not giving them money but we are supporting them. We are supporting the students. We are supporting the principles. Um it is a worthy cause and I think money is going to support them in a different way than giving them a paycheck. And they were pretty clear when they came and talked to us that that's important to them. So that's kind of where I stand. I would assert that the information you got all the communication data um that that pay gap is even work now looking at that data and um there is dead horse right here until I'm off and I will

119very much forum And I want to explain to my peers and self nothing. But here's the problem. We support A lot of other organizations whether they're governmental organizations, nonprofits or forprofit businesses with the money that we have to teach students garner concert soul vista VHS right that support Our executive meets in a collaborative way, right? We are community leaders, but every time we do these partnerships, you add you add those partnerships together that we give them. That's your teacher of the high school. That's the potential for the so yes, but the next year that's has nothing to relent. just particularly for my buckets. Well, I um I have a similar sentiment to I very definitely um Yeah, I think whatever. So I'm also going to but I'm very clear to the community that has nothing

120to do with me not supporting the police not supporting and it's simply just because when you look at the fact that yes our educating kids and the work schedule is the school year and then for the rest of the year and any police they are called to police. So as a she right so just looking at the number 10 regarding her work schedule that's sort of where is that ultimately accountable to the police department for a good portion of the year at least probably once and then additionally all that emergency So yeah, so with that being said, is that part of like things we can change? Some of the things that you were mentioning are assessing agree, you know, but that comes from the police department. Are those things that once we agree or disagree

121to this funding can those things be changed in the IGA? You can always change things in the IG. It's just an agreement between us to say we think this is a better way to work. But once we've already committed to the funding or not, then should it be done at the same time? You decide this so I know what to put in the IP. I just need to know I'm making an agreement with Russian saliva that it's totally theirs. They're totally charged or we are sharing the cost. Therefore, we're trying to figure out how to share responsibility authority. No matter how you do that, there's always money. It's complex. The recommendation is people with like a straight line and then like a weird dotted line that never really just doesn't work. So relationship. I guess

122that's I just have the question. I do not see I don't know that question. Right. So, Everything. This is important. But it would be nice to see spreadsheets organizations. We have that since that's a sticky note my way. Can I just get it clarified real quick? Do you want to see what we're subsidizing as well or just what we're actually conversation? part of the conversation. We all know exactly what each other city I like strong. [Music] That's what I don't know. There's something we get. Those are requested by school staff typically by the athletic director and the principal. Um we charge $75 an hour to do any event in the city of Salida. So, Fiberfest or the Brewers, Rondoo, all that stuff. $75 an hour. Only charge the school $40 an hour to do the

123time for that. It doesn't even cover the overtime rate for the police officer. So, we're putting you guys break as partners. Um, but salary alone is 140,000 benefits a year. So, 30,000 a drop in the bucket, but it definitely helps us be able to fund your position. They subsidize that there needs to be more. We can try and some of that you don't want to try that too far. It's a community. the number be thoughtful about that conversation as many unlockation. You guys subsidize more subsidizes sharing facilities back. It's not black and white. Come here. I don't think that's the right strategy. But you can't numbers in general. Dr. Hi, Mr. H. Hi, Mrs. We can do this year. Take a break. I mean, I do think All right, gang. We're back on, gang. We're

124back on. Sorry. Ready for a motion to approve preliminary budget. Thank you. Uh I assume the two things above that just got approved will be added to that preliminary budget if it's not already. And any other questions, comments? Aaron's jet lag. You ready to answer any questions? Yeah, I mean I'm ready to answer any questions. It's we've talked about it a few times and now you're ready to officially approve all the things that you've already approved over and over again. So figure out that process. Yeah. So, I mean, I think it's good for transparency, but this is the part where we actually approve the things that you've actually approved. Um, so it's I mean, we've had it posted for a month. We kind of finalized our conversation last month. Uh, I've received zero comments from

125the public so far. We had the opportunity to talk about tonight. Uh, we had zero comments there. So, I think that's a good sign that we're there's some trust building there. I think we're in a good spot. I do think just again I'll say I think we're gonna tighten up the revenues a lot by a minute budget. Not not necessarily a lot. We are looking to tighten up revenues. Me and David have gone through a couple of those already and I ran just a revenue report the other day and we looked at each line item. Uh I think we're going to see more revenues than we are showing in the budget and I think we'll be able to cut a couple more expenditures or at least get tighter at this budget with benefits and things

126like that as we're um this was a great year for us when we switched our benefits package because everybody had to go on and elect something whereas in the past we've had a passive enrollment and so this year we actually got to see a lot of people that were calling and saying you know actually I don't need this and it so it opened up a few extra callers as well. So, it'll be curious to see after everybody gets onboarded how many people actually elected our coverage and how many didn't and how do we adjust our budget and do that. So, there'll be there'll be some changes at the amended budget. Um, I'll do what I did last year where I try to keep them um I'll try to keep them documented as I go so

127that when we get to a minute budget, you can see what those changes were if you have questions. But I I'm really happy with the budget. I think we're in a good spot and I and I do think we're going to see a higher starting fund balance. I've said that a few times. Um I think this at the end of this year expenditures are going to be below what we expected and revenues are going to be slightly higher but tighter than they have in the past. A little bit of a tangent on the insurance people kind of the new option with an HSA or still more uh pretty shocking. It was I think it ended closer to like 40 60. Um but to start with I think out of the first like 120 people it

128was almost 25% were going with the HDHP with the HSA. most people were sticking with the PO plan. I think largely though it was a lot of the comments I was getting were either people who knew they had pre-existing conditions and so they were going to be going to the doctor a lot and so I had built a spreadsheet that they could go in and say how many times do I go what's my medication cost and they just figured it was the right plan for them based upon those estimates. Um, or it was people who were just like, I don't know. I don't want to change. I'm comfortable with what I have and I'm willing to pay a little bit more for it. And I actually think that's really positive for us down the road

129in terms of strategy because it opens up the door to um people are starting to understand there's a cost to them for some of these benefits potentially if they want to have those types of benefits. So I think it does open the door for us operating offering more comprehensive packages and potentially even getting into the the questions Jody that you asked of CBT last that time like what's more important and what are our full strategies. So I think it just opens the door for more robust conversations. Yeah, true. That was that was my favorite spreadsheet I've ever built. I know that sounded nerdy. Any other questions? Any other questions? Okay, ready for a vote. Jet lags. Yeah, that's right. It was awesome. I don't know what you're talking about. All right, Dr. Dr. Hill, Mr.

130Mber I for approval motion to approve appropriations resolution 2425-27 for 256 year questions comments anything you need to say ready for a vote Dr. I Dr. Hill Mr. Her Mas and Mr. I for a motion to approve resolution 2425-08 to authorize the use of a portion of beginning balance. Anything you need to say to this one discuss for a motion to approve the senior seminar curriculum. Second. Sorry. Any more questions, thoughts since earlier? David, have any comments? I'm glad to see it shape up the way it has and I think Mr. Hines has a really good reputation of leading conversations based on what I have heard. So, I'm glad he'll be on point. All right, we're ready. All right, Dr. Hi, Dr. Hill. Hi, Mr. HS. Hi, Mr. Lumber. Hi, Mas. Hi, Mr. Hi, and

131Mr. Hi. Looking for a motion to approve all position papers that support framework. Oh, second. I didn't motion second over there. Wait, I gave you the second. Second was pretty clear. Oh, we're getting out of here. It's not even that late, guys. Says who? Says who? Um, obviously we've talked about these a lot. David gave us a presentation a few months back about the framework trying to bring that to a culmination. Um, any comments you want to make publicly here, David, or I don't know of any other district that has this just like your plan documents and things just like senior seminar for all kids. put you in a great position to be able to talk to your community in a transparent way. Appreciate Jessica for all of her work as well. Jody's ready for

132vote. Okay, I think we're ready. All right, Dr. Pit. Hi, Dr. Hill. Hi, Mr. Hubs. Hi, M. Lumber. Hi, Mrs. Fasel. Hi, Miss Shman. Hi, Mr. Hi. I hope this one goes approve strategic communications plan. All right, this one's probably a little bit deeper dive. Got a lot here. Culmination of year's worth of work here. Um David, take away less needed. Um I think what you got Bill's one of our players. Um, I'm going through this. Let's just start with there's a new video. You know what? Let me take a second. I'm gonna play it because I think it's worthwhile. I think we could that was one of the outcomes. Hey, I'd rather Sorry. do this. Volume. I don't know which one it's going to come out. Turn it up. What does Great facilities, great

133teachers. Our test scores truly good child. Think about each one. That's a foundation community. has truly invested in its people here understand this allows our teachers and students to excel. The beauty of living in a Colorado mountain town is we attract the best teachers hard. Our students spend time outdoors with a 4day school week. They see their teachers or weather in our small town. They're still responsible. While many districts have been services, our district free access thousands of dollars valuable mentors and skill training. We recognize these days, but if it's judged by how our entire community comes together to support students, we are only one. I think he was. I've been called out for that before. So, all right, bringing you back. So, I think that's the first place. I mean, so we'll put that

134on our website and push that out. But the question is, is that the right message? And the reason we have that message and that work is because we listened. And I know when we started in August, some people were like, I don't know this is the right work. I really think we did it well because we listened to lots of people in lots of ways. Um, like when you guys did the coffee, those of you guys who went and got coffee and jumped with Karen and did that did that, that helped people feel heard, which helped them feel connected, which helped them feel valued. Um, the message wasn't surprising. It was actually the only surprise was how ubiquitous or how everywhere people were very very happy with their school district. very I was the staff

135side, they're very proud of their work. They're very satisfied with who they're working with. The farther you get away from my little space and the people I'm working with, they feel more disconnected. That's why communication's so important to break down that communication, bring it closer. And I think we've where we were in the fall, it was the right work because I think where we are here in May is different. Much better conversations. I sat again with on our co-presidents of the union um on Friday, Thursday, I can't remember. And it was the conversation this has been great. I feel so much more connected because we've been sitting and talking. A lot of that's because we've had capacity because things are stable. The money is a stable situation. Facilities are planned out. This is where the

136boards clear, consistent. We have a plan. Here's the plan. I know it's hard to look through it in a public setting, but when we have those things allows us to keep being consistent and clear and I think that matters. There are other parts you can I know you guys have read through this, but for me I was surprised how hard some of this was. Will said like the connection between technology, security, communications was extremely difficult to unravel. That was probably the most difficult because everyone had strong intense interest in getting that right which caused a variety of opinions and it took us a while and a lot of audits to talk through a lot of things and leave people space to process and see the other people's perspective and everyone's confident that moving to the

137WebEx um solution and moving to some of these technology solutions helps the security side and also reducing the communication options which you think more options is better, but it actually creates confusion. And so that's that strategy is saying, "No, we're going to go down to one." The second area where you see a lot of intense passion are teachers and how they're communicating their classrooms. But then you get all these foundational technology databases where people of parents got to know 17 different ways and 17 different portals. And every time we shrink that down, we actually get better communication. you know, it's not as many options. That's the strategy. Now, if you're the person who gets shrunk down, doesn't feel as good. And that will be a little bit hard next year as we lay this plan

138out because some people are going to feel like their wings are a little clipped versus the DIY do whatever I want. And our organization has to have some clarity and consistency and that includes the tools. There's a lot there and we will get some push back from someone somewhere who their platform wasn't chosen and they're going to get pushed over to a new platform and that's going to be change exhaustion and that's going to cause some frustration for whoever that individual might be. Um but overall I just want to name that going through the tools is a big piece. Um and I think it's going to be consistent. What the board needs to say is that no, we want to see less more consistently used, right? That's the key recommendation. So, we're not having lots

139and lots of platforms. Um, while that's really nice for choice, we actually want to have less for the community get to know that so they can depend upon more communication channels to hear from us. Obviously, all inside of this was also that thing around phones because it's a big part of it. Do you participate in the social media or not? And most people would say for an organizational, yeah, you got to get on all channels. But the answer is less. We've said that we don't believe social media helps human beings developed. I don't think it does anything for the community. That's what we've gone through. Thus, we have decisions around phones, which is around social media. So, we're not playing in the social media. That's not where our message is going to go out. That

140will be hard for some people that won't necessarily fit what they think. So, I just want to name some of those decisions inside of that. No, please. I disagree a little bit. I think you can totally discount it and so many people rely on that as a communication tool. I think we're missing a pretty valuable space to be have some presence in even if it's limited and targeted. I mean, that's just where society's at these days. You just can't say we don't agree with it. We don't like what happens there, so we're not going to participate. Okay. So, I think I think that, you know, figuring out a way to engage in it, engage in healthy is probably for me would be a better way of approaching it rather than just saying it's bad. We're

141Okay. Well, and can you just clarify when you were saying like we decided that you weren't using social media? That'll be Kim and I when we wrote the plan that you're making right now. I feel like there was so Public Relations Association equivalent. So two pieces of information. You don't actually need to ask that parents don't want they don't want researching social media percentages are actually on Facebook and um it was just interesting just I don't think many people are on Facebook or that's where they get their information the market valuations Facebook and I just like and I We've started this conversation on here and then I got my access for several months and it really shifted my virtual thoughtfully, you know, how to use it as a district and I talked about snow day

142and like Yes, but I don't know like but I don't want that to be where people go through like I appreciate like using putting it on our website and posting channels is fine but it's I don't think as a parent I'm going to communicate to directly but that's where that information comes And because it's for me it's as a parent my goal with that communication to talk to you because I like to ignore social media in this day and age because we have a valueizing we need to again how you do it and I think the celebration of sharing fun and we talked about a community survey figure out the best kind of local community values versus like national public relations folks tell us. Um, but I just and I keep saying, you know, in

143our local community, I don't know figuring out how that works, but I just Any else have a thought about what Matt was saying? It's one little aspect. I think it could be good maybe where you you sort of take a year and um on like the Facebook page because I don't even know what else I'm talking about like going on whatever and looking at what Slide School District is posting. I guess I'm personally doing that but maybe on Facebook if that's the one that most people use, which I don't know if that's the case. Something like um back to school. here's the link to the website where you will find all the information versus like putting it all in there and just kind of pushing people to that because if I want to see when

144I need to register for school or something I I'm not personally like oh I should go look on Facebook personally I would go to the website so one of the things I would love I'm going to keep moving us forward is to put a pen in that and say okay at this part I'd like to do more right I don't want get lost on this part. I will tell you every decision you make to say I want communication like do all of the above then you will invest in more people. That will be that'll be the natural progression because you can't say I'm going to use this channel. I'm going to use it once a year. It becomes the stagnat channel where information is out of date which becomes then actually detrimental to you which

145is why the strategy is more often than not and social media may be the asterisk exception of less is more. What are the channels we're going to use? So, social media might be something we want to say no, I want you to dig more into that. And what I want you to see, gosh, lost. This is not a small thing, right? This is our whole system. That's why I've tried to lay out that these plans that you guys have and put them into the regular board monitoring. So, as board members change, come and go, the next board can say we want to change around our philosophy around having better FAQs, right? which is a really important thing that we don't have or we want to change our strategy around letters to the editor. We'll see

146different things circumstances will change and social media is going to be one of those. Let's say it is Facebook today and it's decided on strategy. It is not what's going to be tomorrow's go-to channel, right? So, that's always going to be shifting. It's why I think it's really important that the board has these things that the community can come and see to understand. There are things like the annual report that goes over well. There's recommendations in the audit maybe how to improve that. Press releases have been such a big um thank you from media because we have not big growth. We're getting clear about what those are when we send those because some people are like, "Oh, right. You know, my kids fourth grade weather report is news. It's not a press release." Like, you

147have to have the boundaries. And I know that's small, but putting those things in place. They may not be perfect, but there are guard rails around it. Um, we are recommending and saying, I think the community wants to hear from you guys directly. And so, a letters to the editor campaign. What would the topics be? those topics are all based off your monitor. Um, I think that that people would appreciate that as well as hearing from their principles. One of the other research is people don't want to hear from someone like me. They want to hear from their school leader. They want to hear from Mr. Sheffle about their kid, right? They don't I'm not they want I've got a generic speech I give. I'm not the the key voice they want to hear. Um

148there are a lot of people want to hear from board directors and so I think that's something there and there is a place for me as well in this conversation but looking out you know the principles are now doing a really good job around those weekly emails. Now, if you're a parent, what most parents will tell you, and I think it's important communication, they don't read it. The principles are horrified, but they wrote it, which means they communicated and they're transparent, so they trusted it because the communication was there. Very frequently, people say, "No, I didn't read it. I'm okay." Was the annual report digested by everyone? No, but it created trust and transparency because it was not. So when the communication is there, you can develop that space. When the communication's not there and

149you want to go investigate. Um I think we made a big growth in our website. Thank you to Kim for that as well as the app. One of the things though that's hard for us is getting up-to-date information. So that'll be one of our pushes is trying to help each site do that space. You'll see on the district side of the website there will be fairly stagnant. There'll be board stuff, big celebrations and emergencies. Other than that, it's not we're not going to be the ones who are developing it because that's when they do want to hear about the kids. Fourth grade weather report is the most exciting story at Lone Fellow, right? That's where that stuff will be at the calendar continue to work. That's a really important tool for all families. So, we're

150trying to get that so people can subscribe to it. I think another something we're missing is we do not have FAQs. A lot of people have asked for this. So, it'll be something to work on. activities. So, the position papers start to develop some of that stuff. How do I go through registration? What are the steps I take? Boom, boom, boom. What are the static questions we get all the time that you can have a basic answer to, right? And you can pick topics. And a good example is Long Fellow, they've really done a good job of creating their kindergarten support. So, we've done kind of that information security will be another work on next year where people ask the same question year after year. Those would be some examples, but it's a strategy, right?

151You saw the overview videos. I think there's some other ones that we need to be keep on doing, I think, because that becomes a budget issue, right, that you need to continue to invest in that stuff. Um, I'll give you an example. The next action, one of the next action items, no, the next one, you're you're putting the contract through for Spartan Heights. What other elected officials actually invested community dollars, successfully built affordable housing, put staff, teachers in housing, had kids build it, kept it out restricted, and made money for the people. Who else after millions of dollars and bazillions of hours conversations? It's a story that should be out there, right? There are so many success stories, but if we don't take the time to invest in them, then the only stories we're going

152to live are the ones when there's something not going. I think this is the other piece we're trying to use as more just testimonies and profiles. And I mean, when you got to talk to the kids in January, remember all the kids are proud of their school. I wasn't proud of my school, but I was a senior in high school or a freshman in high school. I wasn't torn about that. That was actually shocking to me. I don't know. I don't know. My I was shocked. Um I think there's more of that than you realize. I mean, you laugh about it and make sarcastic, but developmentally adolescence don't say that. Their skill set and development is around criticism because the world is just shifting to black and white, right? That's what their skills are when

153they're developing. It's not the norm to say, "I love the talent in." Most adolescence say I want to get out of the top and we can say oh salad is special. It's only special because we make it special. Um there's a lot there. So inside of this these decisions are big money and they're where you put it and all these have to be evaluated and they won't stay put. But they happened this year and we needed to. There are little things in here. I know it doesn't mean a lot to you, but if you don't have rules around what's get pushed out on what channel and everyone assumes that every single story should be in the annual report and everything should have its own app notification that should go out to everybody because pick a

154thing there's a football game or there's a concert. So that is the most important thing going out on all channels and you have to protect those channels and you have to have rules. Um, so, um, there was a lot of stuff just in internal emails. We were just kind of all all over the place. I don't know if any of these things you guys want to talk about or social media is the only one that triggered you. You put I sent you email, but definitely the staff handbook need to be updated with all of these. Yep. if you guys would approve this. Yeah, I think uh social media official how do you redirect people which again I think probably Facebook Instagram this I don't know what hard question. What do you utilize to try to

155redirect and point people to that information and how do you do it? So I think there's probably more development around that need to utilize it for that purpose. Um I do think that is worthwhile to consider celebrations but I understand really officials just like what about post at the top of the Facebook page that says go to the website and then you never see and that's kind of where that's not how social media works. Correct. Well, that's if you're and having and I I managed a social media account with over 65,000 followers because it took so much time like I'm a big believer and to manage all the comments like that's and I think like for me you know it would either be turn off all the comments on everything which then you get rid

156of the social part because otherwise your managing So, let's put that in social media because clearly that's still the issue. Isn't it interesting that it keeps coming back to how complex this is of where we fit in next fall? You're going to have to dig into it again in terms of what's your technology like how much there'll be a lot of pieces. I think this look from year to year. It's a tricky tricky. It's a really I would be glad to say we can keep coming back to how we do that. I will say from my recommendation, my first priority is to clean up all of our other communications and make sure they're high quality and then see what capacity you have left to go into those spaces. I would say use of it is

157so like not I don't think leaving it kind of in the current. So here's an interesting bit. We've never defined what a partner is and it matters in communications because guess what? You have the best user group, contact list, most coveted communication channel in our entire community. No one has a more important access. You control it. Because if you send out the flyer, if you send out the message, you went straight to the heart. So everyone wants to use you as their communication channel. So, we have never sat down and said,"Well, that's fine." And so, I tried to find some words about getting clear with partners. I think we stumbled across it more than once tonight. I think next fall when we come back, you might want to think more about what does it mean

158to be a partner with us because right there are neighbors and there are true partners and both and is part of our world in a small town. However, partners have formal use of the district to extend or execute direct programs. This is how we tried to answer that question. Otherwise, I may be playing subject subjective land of whose message I'm carrying forward. Right? Then and when you have like right now we have a federal administration that's cutting the legs off under this big ecosystem of nonprofits and NOS's which is a big part of Salida's ecosystem. Yes. Right. This matters because this is business and so you have to figure out it's not simple but you have got to do that and we need to get to a place and maybe it comes back to me

159and you said that every year we directly say and that changes how you vote changes how you think about it. Um, it's not a small issue there, right? Because everyone wants to do field trips with your kids and offer programs for your kids and not everybody gets your tax dollars. It's not appropriate. That's the hard conversation we just had. And then you've got this activities recreation thing. City sales on both, right? That's a huge issue that controls your communication in so many different ways. So then you have the action plan. Um, and what I wanted to just talk about was these messages that I thought the staff brought forward after looking at the TLCC survey data and then looking at their perception data that happened to fall and then looking at Donovan's communication audit intentionally

160got three different things that people could triangulate. Um, and the most important thing was how everywhere people have deep trust of the work you guys have done and deep trust that you're doing good work and pride um, and where you're at. Bill, do you want to add to that? system. [Music] That's not doing my head. Why are you saying why I think this is helpful is as board members this is what you should be saying. He gives you your message. Obviously, you say whatever you need to say, however you need to say it, all that stuff. And then the staff reviewed this from all different teams, right? Surveys, audits, everyone we talked to in different ways, all perception data. Um, it was consistent there. So, it's important when you're talking, this is what the staff

161want to make sure that you're amplifying. This is what's recommended that you're amplifying. um these students continue to see outstanding achievement and it's true. [Music] So, I don't know you guys had a chance to read this. I can keep going, right? You got increased enrollments. Students are proud. There's the staff and trust collaboration. They may see that in the data and just get shocked by how high that was. That was so neat and so almost healing to me to realize they have they feel really strong about who they're working with. Um because obviously when we're at this level, we get the other side of the stories, which is okay. But that was really that meant the world to me to know that our staff or teachers were feeling they were in a good spot, sense

162of belonging of our kids. So thoughts, questions, comments? Not sure where you guys want to go with. Yeah, I think the overall picture I don't ask different. So I think there's some little like those details that can be continually fine and worked on but I do think like the overall big picture and some of the messaging components and the end goal of like hey here's layout here's the plan and here's two things first is related to this. I lost inches height time otheries and I lost in my life because the growth that we had with our communications was our intentions really made this a better industry and then secondly I asked you an order of merit those recommendations from Kim and David about um which ones are the most important for you guys and I

163ask them via email and maybe when you respond see if you can include Bill on that because um there's lots of recommendations we just we can do anything we want we just can't do everything we want one of the things we will do is I'm going to do their staff engagement survey because I need longitudinal data obviously it's just not context um I think that helped a lot of people feel heard So, and if I want to see improvements in areas or I want to see things stay the same. So, I think that's great to give that. So, we're going to do that space. Um, I think CBT there's a lot more ability to evaluate. Um, so giving them a chance to talk about what messages are important to them. And I think we had

164a couple other teams. Yeah. I think the other space that I know I would like to look at is how do we take some of those perceived disconnects between what would be the highest level central office versus custodian. How do we close that gap? More coffee. What can we do to make people feel connected? And so a lot of what I've got uh Savannah crafting our new curriculum instruction person is focused on making this connection so people feel connected. Thoughts? I mean, I think that would be nice, but I also appreciate that it's, you know, as long as people feel feel very connected up the chain, if you will, it's okay if they maybe don't necessarily ever think about this office, right? Well, and some point you've talked about this before, David, that just by

165nature us tonight, right? like we're the ones who have to do that and so it's very unlikely for us to sit in a position where everyone in the community is constantly amazing are doing a great job and for the teachers also like I think a lot of the teachers feel like they have to call us but I think the fact that I'm personally getting a lot less text from class from teachers is a really good indication that they're feeling a lot more comfortable to go talk to their preschools which is what and that's just better management. So, I kind of agree with Jen like yeah, it'd be great if they were like, oh, we have such great connection to the board, but I'm not sure that that really should be our goal. If you're connected

166to their principles, that's better. Trust. Okay. Anything else on this social media? Looks like I'll boomerang that back at you in the fall because I didn't hear consensus in that. Other than that, was most of what you guys saw on this meet your expectation. Bill wanted to add, can I just add one more thing to this issue to just not forget it? Like you mentioned the booster club specifically. Um I think do we need to have some sort of process on something like the booster club who's sort of operating under the district but posting their own things under Facebook page. Does that come back to us in any way? And I bring it up because I have gotten concerns from parents with some of the things the booster club has posted in the past. And

167my thought has sort of been like that's not the district. That's these parents on the booster club. But just maybe put a hint in that too to see if we need to have some sort of thought. Student clubs that use social media. I mean, there's all kinds of things. I was just say flavor on it. There's so much data. And that's kind of maybe that's I came back nice about having a plan though is I can pick one topic now. Let's say let's dig into that. Let's let's put boundaries around that or intend around strategy on that. Um, can I have a question? Can you get to see some analytics on frequency use for the website and those types of things? There's some tools built into it or read an article about Yeah. golf second

168place. So, so if those are really low and the website is something else, right? But if it was a high frequency answer clearly here. Yeah. And I can see like the beginning of the year like hey parents check your email or you know or visit this page of the website to make sure you make sure deadlines and I think that's what gets people's attention if you get a text that says check your And it's a different strategic use of that year. I think that's going to get more parents than the children because even scrolling on Facebook, it's super likely that if you haven't interacted with the school page for a while, you're not going to see that post. So I don't think it's actually tell opinions on the security side. If you abuse the notification

169for securities and fill it up with everything and it becomes an overused channel. It needs to be an emergency channel. I think that's again the hard part is every security thing is a technology thing which is based on a phone and an app. Everything has shifted to being based on an app which is complex for a workforce. So your way to talk to your workforce that's actually was the most complicated is how we communicate with our workforce and internally um because of that phone piece um and how all the different apps interact. That's because every single security systems on an app so it just changes the game. Um where your car is your responsibility to get to work and your phone's your responsibility to be able to function at work. That's a new thing. That's

170not that's there's policy out there that have to continue to be written because there's something shifted there or you know have a choice to get that information in a different format. So I think we'll continue to see some as well. Did you like it what we built? Was it good? Is it there? It's amazing. Thank you for all your work. Okay. and just the gathering of the people talking to so many people around that's you know we're not getting that much feedback we're certainly not getting that feedback from teachers the numbers of as you were talking about in the video just how many people are excited to go to work like 90% or something so exciting close it up though I was just going to say one of the There's so much people I was

171sitting there with so teachers especially like school is directing the central office like this and they have so many things to say and of course just feels There's just a lot of support and they recognize literally Sorry guys. So I appreciate I didn't know when we were looking at the grinds like is that really the best work? I think it paid off to be the best work from my perspective because we got to validate people and shift to a conversation around pedigogy which is really where we all wanted to be teacher board parents and I feel like doing this work had some really good organizational structural things important um that we needed to do right putting some rules in place and some guidelines. Great. More importantly, I think it allowed us to move on to

172the next conversation. Get back to pedigogy, curriculum, instruction. This was what we needed to do to get to that conversation. So, from my perspective, it was the highest yield thing we could have done. Um, got some cool videos out of it. Um, but I think we also got some structures and so excited to add to those and some other things when we get to the fall grind. By the way, you got some letters to the editor, Jody. There's your list. What topics? What dates? Sign up your retirees. It depends to me as there were some there's some distorted issues for the board that is carried through teachers don't have a history of the board. So those recommendations are explained. I can explain [Music] I will have those conversations really great. I thought it just was

173easy. It wasn't like I think it's the key thing that's such a good learning. It's a reminder because most if you make the communication, they may not read it, but it it scratches the itch, but they need scratch to say you wrote it, communicated, and it was the same thing. I read the first two paragraphs and it said what I already think. And so it resonates with me. That's why it's important to know what those what they're thinking, why the listing is so important. So you can write and say here you had an interest in this. Here's what's going on with your interest. As well as making sure we address, you know, there's got to be substance for us. We can't just be what toxic positivity, right? It's not the issue. We're just in a

174good spot right now. And it's also allows me as a person when I hear somebody who's not having a good time to say that's fine. Let's address your experience, but you don't get to exacerbate and say everyone's having the same negative experience. let's help you, you know, having fun. Let's have help you have fun, but not everyone else is in that same space as you. So, I think it's really helpful because then our teachers are having fun. When our teachers are having fun, our kids are more likely to have fun. That's a good thing. That's where the magic happens. Well, it sounds like too like just explaining now they're trusting Karen because they know she's a teacher. Is that part of it, too? They just want to know like who really are like they just

175want the children? Yeah. Well, to that endusp in A this is something I didn't show you guys. This is one of the products I wanted from him because we'd like to have student interns do interviews. You guys would be the types of people that people would like to see. Right. So what Bill did was get us the professional, right? And give the kids or whomever here's the angles, right? And this would be something where we can do that. There are other little things we have hopes and aspirations that we'd like to do to help us, right? But just go back there. So those will be those testimonies and profiles where we can profile board members and also profile principles and teachers and kids and I think because that's one of the reasons we choose to

176live in slide is to know one another and I think that that's what's helpful and facilitate that I I think we're actively paradox for a while but as a community member it's like I just want to go But I do think we're actively your question like I think everybody just wants better communication you know so isolated be smart about it and then the last thing I'll say is that I think that so highly And the teachers behind the data principles officer years away. So bad. It's hard to manage, right? It's not just policies, it's culture, right? So the way you identify those pieces are tool and work. the board to walk in. Oh, I see what I understand. I understand the appendix. It's like rebranding. don't think that's going to go over well and that

177will shift the momentum back to negatively like kind of within a week's notice we decided to rebrand the district. Um I'm not saying it's not valid. I'd sit here and say it's kind of hard to get rid of the paid for the beautiful football field and now we're saying is irrelevant. I can just I guess the the rebranding component to me is like something that I don't want to say but I just don't think that if suddenly all of our stuff changes you have to just I I think that some of the updates I would say some of the updates I'm gonna let Kim answer to that. Yeah, I would say the updates to like the the like trying to make sure that the correlation between HA and press and those color you're going to

178really cover just stupid. I know it's really I mean I hear people upset that we don't just have purple right it's I know it's just like I don't want to drag you guys too deep the weeds here I get to hear the bigger things Kim answer the speak to the question we're go tear out a whole traditional just and I think for us part of it just largely I'm going to text the same. I try my best not to make decisions and things I wasn't trained in. I've never heard anyone in branding graphic art say you should just let everyone do whatever they want. It's a good idea. I worked really hard on that Crest logo. Well, it still looks kind of the same. It's just I I app I'm absolutely kidding. It does look

179the same. I value the consistency like the lettering. It is it is going to be purely like the damn Spartan head and the color and those are going to be the two things that we just I didn't get. Yeah, I don't really say the other thing is there are so many smart I I just I value all that. I don't disagree that there may be an update refresh. I just don't this is approved tonight and this is certainly the direction we go that that's going to help. I hear you very clearly we can put that and work it through process. Just leave that one there. So if you prove that we can talk through how and to what degree it rains and I mean I know what's going to happen. We'll try to engage those

180that once we'll show up change. Yeah. But I just I don't I think we're recommending major changes, but there are some changes. One of the things we were really clear on was we're not saying change complets, right? There are some basic things because every single time we try and make a sign or anything else, guess what the company's asked for? Could you send us your brand book? Oh, we don't have that. Uh, okay. Stall, not sure where to go with the conversation because what organization doesn't have that? Us. And it doesn't need to be pushed through because that's not the most essential thing. It is part of what you need in the communications plan, but it's not the key message what Bill is trying to communicate well with what we need to protect. It is

181part. So I hear you guys saying work on that other you know one of the things that that I would definitely say this is something big to your point. because that's the right and the same way you can see those photos that are on there. So you throw some stuff out there like They never use that. In terms of consistency is the most important rest. I show I I agree with that. I think I and this community has changed, generations have changed. I would rather show anyone. So this you can use any slowly all I just wanted to show you. You haven't heard a single beat because the S changed. Love it and put it in patches like uniform and it turns on shorts and he starts like the class of 7576 like I know

182what you're talking about. [Music] All right. So, um I heard two things out of a 19page document which is based out of I don't know how many pages of data you should have gone through. Um, yes. Fabulous. It means you're in the weeds. And now I'm going to pull you back to your jobs. Your job is you've got messages. You've done the deep work. Can you support that? Do you feel like we're doing those spaces or this is not um we are on the wrong track and this plan is horrendous. Throw it out. Start over and bring it back in August. I would say we're probably ready for a vote because I think that's where we're at. Right. And there are two areas I hear you want more to think about and there the you

183say they're not big. They're important. What you said as a community is there's two areas I want you to go deeper. Three out of 17 pages and however much backup data and I don't know how many hundreds of hours of work. There's two things make sense. What I want from my boards for 20 years from now is they are always developing their communication plan. This goes in your monitoring plan so that your community knows here's the messages to expect. Here's the channels to expect from because like security and tools you do class dojo at the elementary school or not. That is today and the tool will change tomorrow. But the board has got to make sure that it has a plan for how it wants to communicate and keep those messages and consistent. That's your

184mission. That's what you All right. Dr. Hill, can I tell one quick story? my first month here was some meeting and I still at that time thought I was just an instructional coach and so I came to a meeting it was be it was 12 months after we initiated 4 day school week and so there was a board meeting and there wasn't any place to even sit so I sat literally in the corner of the floor and heard the first uh community feedback session in the four day school week which was intense and after that this guy goes Hey, here's the new guy. Can you come do something? We start to work on communications and we rebuilt a whole website because the old one was didn't meet needs. And then those little videos you've seen,

185if you go on YouTube and look for slotted schools, you'll find lots of these old videos, ways that we've been trying to help the community see what's great about their world and the why does it matter. You're the only man in the community who's grown in the last five years. It matters. I'm sure about paying bills, but I've taken care of our community. So, it's come a long way. So, I just want to say thanks to Bill. Been bugging me for 15 years. Were you also in I was there showed up. Rich was on my Okay. and Rich and sorry you went to go there and old school Salida Rich Young on the board said do not do mountain lines we are only the Spartans and what are we lines okay you lose I was

186told it's purple and not red because Madam what's her name Madam Evans I was told by I was told by an old man that there's lots of Anyway, let's wrap this meeting. All right. Approve resolution 2425-09. I've got you for the sale of 310 and 312 Hbert Avenue Nights. Thank you, Bill. Appreciate all your work. I really don't want to make this David, but I know it's late. I do hope that we can put together a decent press release. The media hopefully Good one. No, that was first. So, hey Joe, can I can I say one thing though that is a I think is a highlight of what you all set out to at the beginning of the year that I think is important for the public is if these two pass and you sell

187these two and you sell the previous property that you sold, one of the goals was to pay for HA and you'll have brought in with the revenue from the CFC lease that changed about 2.5 million this year and we're looking at coming in about 2.4 million to actually build all of HA. So, we'll actually brought in more revenue than we spent on it. So, we'll have cash that you can utilize for something. You're making more on our interest than we're currently paying on our loan. Um, but you have enough sitting there that you could go pay off if that's what you Oh, yeah. That's not the recommendation. But like in terms of financial in terms of financial stability, like the point at the beginning of the year was do we have enough assets to sell

188this off to pay for that? And we are now accomplishing all of that for the year. And I didn't think that was going to happen the first month. sale of final sale. Yeah. Plus plus plus. Yeah. You'd have enough to pay off both coops at that point. But it but regardless, I just it's important to know like when people you you talked about that that spreadsheet that the community could look at and say, "How are we how are we doing?" This is a it's you've done it in one year and we still have the money coming in. So, no, I think it's important to note and I think the other piece that's important to note is this property was appraised for 1.6 million and we worked with them to get it down to 1.2 million

189because that's what helped them get the grants necessary and funding necessary and get some affordability that they feel is appropriate. So, uh, yeah, I mean, in during, we're taking a $400,000 haircut for a good community benefit. As David said earlier, we have managed our funds very appropriately, and this is still fiscally responsible. We're helping a community partner that's, you know, big. So, I think everybody should be proud of that and uh did good things. This was one of the things we debated very first Dr. Hill Mrs. Hel All [Music] right. Looking for a motion to approve resolution 2425-10 for sale of 310 East 9th Street, which is the current. [Music] David, anything need to be said on this one? No, I believe it matches all of your values. It again puts you in a great

190spot financially and fiscally and it ensures that again you're meeting your mission of ensuring that the partners are growing established while taking on the tax dollars doing amazing. So deeply proud that CMC's intent is to build out technology programming in this park. Although we have the full authority, but their intent at this moment is to build a full technology program. Of course, it's theirs to talk about which it matches exactly with where we are programmatically. So, we can talk preschool through 20th grade. What is our vision as a community of what we how we want to engage technology things like social. Awesome stuff. This is so hard. Ready for a vote. Ready for tonight, Dr. M All right. Looking for a motion to approve ratify GCCF- sabatical leave which was tabled for May. What? This

191one pretty good. Any more comments? I agree with you to the largest. Ready for a vote? Dr. Nice. I made a poor decision. I had a chim chas from Looking for a motion to approve recommendation for board document management system. Thank you. And well, my concern is talked a lot about I would like the board to see what looks like school districts, not just put something on the screen. what if we um if that's the case but you're not feeling like that's sufficient then we have two board members go through the sales presentations yeah with two companies plus be able to look at other examples and you guys can not transfer Right. Academy. That's why So I guess two or four go see the sales reps. or just sit down and you can get on

192school and look at you have a district. Hey, go look at this district. I just think for because it's board documents, it's valuable as two board members to sit down do what you're suggesting to whatever add more layers or do the simplistic way. Yeah. I don't know. But two board members who would say want to go look at Kim's recommendation investigate it. I think that's true. table. Hi, Dr. Hill. Hi, Mr. H. Can I go back for just a second to action item? No, you guys didn't pass. I don't think it is my communication, right? At this time, this is your guys's communication. All right, Joe. Majority minority kind of opinion thinking of what you get from justices. I think you need to not just turn the vote. It's not needed. It's not required. I'm

193making a suggestion that you write your reason why piece that I can give to staff. important recommendation to do it tonight, but I think that's going to go a little bit better. I'm just making an announcement of me trying to speak for you. But I think that there might be value for your service. Obviously, all seven of us would be great. the clearest. Right. You can have that. Can you just be sure go through can you guys consensus be intentional and careful process we are officially in support communication committee reports facilities. Uh we did some good things tonight and we tried to get stuff from the county prepared for this meeting and so There's stillific July. August cover question about that. Um, so we get the emails that we should register, but we don't register.

194you do that for us. Perfect. Thank you. Okay. Thank you, Ben. Okay. Uh I think the biggest thing is we have obviously no July meeting. July meeting. August 12th will be the meeting. Uh who wants to sign up for a good old agenda? It'll be the first week of August. probably work to finalize the work session, grind, whatever you want to call it, agenda for that time, too. But if there are topics that you want to deep dive into that we haven't already discussed, please make sure you send them to David or you you had a lot of communication with I don't exactly remember any the immigrant advocate folks who've been here. So I saw all your emails back and forth, but does that need to be future business for us to talk about more

195or is most of what they're asking for stuff that can just kind of be wrapped up the policies? If there is a change that cas recommend recommends because a lot of changes then we'll change the one policy gil all the other stuff that they mentioned that we don't have we have and I sent to them this week. Okay. So do you think maybe some of her comments today? Yeah I think maybe some of the communication we have about them but they may not I have not heard that Senate bill. It was just passed last week. It's a federal Senate bill. I know it's recently passed. So then Casby should update the policy we have and then we'll put in the legal policy that they recommend on JL which will be the policy question. Yeah, I'll

196continue there trying to engage them, make sure we're meeting them and understanding. So I think it's really important that we're Um, it's great to have the right policy, great to have her published. Those are necessary and check boxes, but you need to have a relationship and mentor if you're be successful in a different country. Hopeful that we get through the government things and get to mentor. Looking for a motion. Good job. 10:02