001like oh yeah Emily's a bit difficult but I just I enjoy the staff yeah it's amazing we're all really close sorry about that why does a work for me well I means the same that uh I was in traditional education for 15 years and I've been at ha and um it's a family that's never been uh happier as a teacher I mean I've always had a very uh relational way about my teaching style but being there is we are all the students are on my are in my contacts and text them if they don't show up um the small the small atmosphere allows for us to be entrenched in our students lives and it's pretty magical um so one of our goals goals for this year was that um 60 to 70% of students are
002passing contract so contract is essentially every two weeks they sign up for a new class they are passing contract that means they are making 80% they're earning 80% of the total possible points they can earn if they are making that 80% consistently then they are on track um to earn their full credit at the end of the semester um I wanted to be transparent with the data I mean it hasn't really been been our best showing um but when I stepped back to kind of like really analyze it and look at it um we've had a lot more happen this year it feels like than any previous years there's been a lot of mental health concerns with students we had some cancer diagnoses in multiple families um and the political climate has impacted our commun
003so we continue to push our students um and you know we continue to support them all the way around looking ahead we've got testing yay guys yay testing is coming up um then we've got the prom that these guys are planning we're super excited about we do an a prom it's just like a small doesn't go very late some of us have to be bed by nine um but um the students love it and it's just like a fun time to come together um and then in May we've got our graduation again hoping all 10 get there um and then we always do an end of your ring Tri which is awesome and then throughout the spring parts of summer we are hoping well we will be moving and we will be in the building
004next any questions oh thank you sorry most important is a thank you obviously the humans be behind us Bo of Education huge supporters of a do we are very grateful um lots of parent and community volunteers lots of folks constantly asking how they can come in and help um the ha staff is just amazing um it's hard work that all Educators do um and I feel like haa is an additional layer um and our haa students they're amazing they're awesome humans to um come to come to us for various reasons and we're so glad that they are with us at a so with that any questions questions yeah okay any questions is I justed [Music] thank you should we just pass this down there a Aaron we're skipping you for a minute and we're gonna
005jump into building leadership teams um there's a presentation in here that's the perspective one no that's David is there right now um I had a chance to building leadership team from s High School invited me in to talk to them and they were like hey can we share some things to the board and so chance for them to share with the board I know Jesse you want to take it from there but there's no formal presentation are we jumping to the discussion is that you're no no no just want to make sure Jesse had asked me if I could get some those people in out we'll see sure just a presentation you know my C report so at the high school I think like other schools we have a building leadership team uh that meets
006on a monthly basis and uh basically the the leadership team is about building leadership capacity within the building and and talking about how we improve instruction how we improve uh the culture and it's a liaison uh position that these teachers have between uh the rest of the staff and High School administration um so challenging issues that we have in the high school or areas of growth um are often things that that's what we discuss at building leadership team and we sit around and drink uh o oat milk chai in the morning from Topo and uh solve uh well not solve problems but um talk about how we can improve at the high school um so uh the discussion what was that two weeks ago uh revolved around how do we best communicate out what wor
007we are about at the high school and how do we communicate what we need to move forward um so uh we had volunteers stand up and say I I'll go speak in front of the board and kind of share with you what the high school is about so uh Kate Madden's here science teacher Janine frie art teacher and uh Paul brachman social studies teacher three different perspectives we know Kate's been in the district a long time was at the middle school and now is at the high school for her first year um Janine an institution um at the high school the the the foundation of the art program at the high school for how many years Janine 23 and then there's there's Dr brachman Who has um a lot of teaching experience and has build
008been a building P principal but is brand new well not brand new at this point three years new at Salida High School uh so three different perspectives kind of to give you about what is happening who wants to go first there you go thank you Jesse um so yeah this is uh not quite three years two and a half years uh that I've been in the district now um and uh I just kind of want to share with you guys what I've seen because um it's kind of exciting to be part of the team at the high school and what we're doing here right now um I I I spent uh before I came to cide I spent 15 years International and I wasn't sure and a decade before that in um public schools in
009the States I wasn't 100% sure that when I came back to town that I was going to work in the public school again um in fact I took a job at the prison for a couple years and thoroughly enjoyed it doing GED teaching but I started attending board meetings here and watching and seeing what was going on and listening to you guys talk about your District and uh there's a really a lot of really good things going on in this District the haa program that we just saw is huge Crest is giant um what what's going on over at the ECC is really great stuff those are really good things that are going on in this District that led me to believe like hey maybe there's something special going on here and I I should
010get involved um so uh we did and at the high school um I stepped in uh the first year I've never had as much Plan time um in any one school as I had that first year completely unadulterated a quarter of my day wow and I felt like I that first year I remember talking to Jesse going man we're wasting a lot of time we're missing we're missing opportunities to do some good things here and uh sure enough the next year we start using that time more efficiently um I mean and that's good this is a good thing right because like the uh you know there's these cycles that schools and everybody goes on up and down and we're on an uphill cycle around here and that's the fun place to be I've only got
011you know years of my life to devote to this career I want to be in those places where the good stuff is happening where we're doing fun things where it's exciting to be involved um and that's definitely this place one little last piece I'll I'll throw in there is you know at one point last year and I was I'm a new guy in town I don't know the politics and the history and the stuff that's going on but um I've always been a union guy and you guys had a CBT program going on here and there came a point last year where I kind of personally decided that uh the sea and CBT programs that existed in the district weren't really representing who I was and what I wanted to do here I wanted to
012work hard I want to do great things for kids I want to get involved and be a professional and I withdrew Drew my membership from those organizations at that time last year just because it it didn't match what I wanted to do and I think that the message has started to shift since then uh I think that was a low Point um as far as what the push back from us at people at the high school and the shift and how we're going to use our planning time and all that there was a little bit of push back there and and I think we've turned a little bit of a corner so that being said I think this whole district is really on a uphill swing in the high school and it's fun to be
013part of it um so I'll pass the mic to whoever wants to go next Kate um hi I'm Kate herck maton um I taught at the middle school for um 11 groups of kids came in in the middle of the year um first year teaching life science for at the high school and echoing what Paul said about kind of these es and flows of um culture and um education in general um I've been around for a long time I've been involved in BLT and um kind of District leadership I'm gifted and talented um I helped build CBT initially so I've I've seen these es and flows and coming to the high school what has really been a very positive experience for me partially because this momentum that started building after covid um at the middle
014school and at the high school to improve culture improve um communication is really like catch and steam and and moving forward in ways that are really exciting um I was welcomed by the staff many who I'm I've known for over a decade um some many of them are new as well but I felt welcomed um we have sit down bread breaking um with the staff a couple times a year we had one today that was just a lovely time for us all to gather as a staff um we have staff participation in spirit weeks um we have like watching the kids get excited about um send offs for State we've had like and and even the the cheers the the um kids cheering each other on at different sporting events um has been really cool
015to watch because it really is building um the other thing that Paul talked about was how do we use that planning time and it's wow it's huge um that shift in how we use that um with mtss and with vertical teams has been really positive the momentum the individual um support that we can give kids tracking kids um communicating both with both the admin and the counselors about who are the kids who are struggling why are they struggling and I've been able since I've taught many of these kids once before I've been able to kind of help give some perspective of hey this is the same thing we said about this kid um a couple years ago how how can we move this forward and we've had these very good conversations um some of the
016kids have made the transition to haa because it was a better fit some kids have um kind of we've started troubleshooting what's the the the the root of their problem that kind of the root problem as opposed to this problems um and so that leadership the conversations that we're having as staff and with our leadership um about individual kids has really been positive we have this amazing time for vertical teams um it's something I never had mostly because at um until last year at the middle school like we all worked in our silos and then it's become part of this um like fifth grades fifth grades sixth grade to sixth grade on up all the way up and we haven't had this time to talk to each other what are you doing how are how
017is this working how do we improve our curriculum how do we what are the commonalities are we making sure we hit all the standards um we now have this time carved out once a week for our vertical teams and it's amazing and I think it's underutilized because we don't have that academic leadership at the district level um like the to that that we've asked for because we don't we're we're we're teachers we're not experts in curriculum development um and so having that extra support would really go I think a long way in helping us even better use and kind of match that momentum that we have with mtss would help us mat um that momentum in the vertical teams so um it's it's been an awesome experience and and I I am grateful for the
018opportunity to work with this fantastic staff and seeing the kids on the other side of adolescence um it's just really super it's been a great experience so go Mr just go back here because I don't like having back sorry I'll go over here I'll just continue the trend okay and I have my notes because I need them because it's late okay so um I have been at the high school for 23 years teaching art and um before that I taught in Indonesia at an international school for two years and then before that in BB for six so I've been teaching for 31 years total I've seen a lot of change a lot of change in this District I've gone through five or four different superintendents and Dr Blackburn being the last one who's been here
019for 10 years out of those 13 years um if you really think or sorry 23 years if you think about it then the other ones were here for maybe three or four years um and the change that I've seen in the district that also at the high school has been exponential since I've been here um we you know we had h a new advisory well a new high school which I got to be on the design team for we had a new advisory program which I helped develop and design the curriculum for as was one of the main four people um and then we had Crest join haa joined the district um we had the farm to table uh school lunch program which I think is incredible a lot of progressive ideas of Dr Blackburn
020has come in that we've had support with from the school board Etc and then we had CMC come in and you know at first the initial idea of CMC was that oh great they're going to take our jobs we're not going to have a job because they're going to replace us and we weren't sure what was going on at the time that it was you know being talked about and um little by little as we learned that no they're not what they did is they created this entire opportunity not only for students but for teachers and the teacher like have worked really really hard we have had the opportunity to um get master's degrees if we don't have them the opportunity to get credentialed if we don't have the credentials right um if we don't
021we don't have like me I don't have the time to get a master's degree I'm almost done with my career and so um CMC worked with me but we also have um internships for kids uh we have the ascent program next year we're going to have the career development incentive program the cedf certifications that is all huge at the high school these students have so many opportunities and ultimately the reason that they do is because of our principal and now our new assistant principal by the way congratulations yes um and the teachers who have worked extremely hard to do that you have teachers who are working full-time and doing a master's at the exact same time that's a huge undertaking huge and they also have families right so there has been some incredible Progressive Movement
022uh in the district but really also mostly at the high school and we have taken it we have run with it we have embraced it and we have made it happen and we're seeing it right now um and we're seeing it happen with kids who can take almost two years worth of college credits and enter College as a junior right how expensive is college extremely it's exorbitant right so we are really taking care of kids in the right way and offering them a ton of opportunities and with that being said I have always felt very supported by this District um by my admin by the school board by my superintendent with anything I've ever asked for um that means my programming that means professional development um that means me deciding oh you know uh when
023I when I first started thinking about retirement I was like oh five years out in my mind this was me coasting on out yeah I'm gonna start saying no to this I'm gonna start saying no to that and I'm just gonna Coast out coming coming out of it the way I came into it strictly for my students and just art right and then CMC said hey we'd like to uh expand the Arts in Humanities program would you like to go ahead and teach art appreciation and get credentials and I said well let's talk about that and so I ended up doing it and instead of doing this my last bits of years being in my career I'm doing this right and when I really really think about it I think about the fact that uh
024it's been nothing but positive huge undertaking a lot of work but nothing but positive positive for me and my personal growth but also positive that I can share that information and that new learning with my students um and now C dip is coming up and uh you know hey we'd like to get you certified to be an adobe professional certification teacher and so that's the next step and I think to myself and then I'm like you know that's really cool yeah let's do it why not um but with that being said I want to end with this um I have created curriculum I know what it takes to do it right I have uh worked with teams over the last 31 years developing my curriculum and thinking about how do we do that how do
025we connect what we're doing with the standards how do we take that and make it into a rubric what kind of vocabulary and terminology are we teaching our kids that's Direct related to our discipline and all the things that are aligned with true pedagogy of curriculum I get it I understand it and let me be clear it is a huge undertak huge and when I think about the work that it took for me to do that it was not during a planning time that is completely unrealistic if that's what we're supposed to be doing we need to have an expert in the field that can come and work with teachers and when you think about the teachers that are in our building and the overall uh way that it's gone for the last five seven
026years with the national shortage of teachers you're getting teachers in these fields that some don't have the background but they're being hired right and you've got from A to Z in a building and a lot of them don't have a foundational curriculum that if they weren't there for heaven forbid three months somebody could just hand off a packet of information and that other person could run with it to do that takes time A lot of time and it takes having somebody that knows what they're doing to come and work directly with teachers and that's the reality of it so as far as I'm concerned and knowing what I know and knowing what it takes to do something like that I highly encourage you all to consider hiring a TOA for the high school and for
027the rest of the teachers in the district because it's very very important we need that if that's your aim if you want proper curriculum that's developed in the right way it needs to happen that way and that's my two cents on it so that's all I have thank you so much thank you all um we kind of jumped into discussion i p so this is the high school building leaders team so you guys have questions comments please they're here for us to discuss give you the floor us what is what would be differenta versus what's happening my understanding is there a little shift this year to oh super sorry as to come okay so we I'll just to start Jesse it's your turn that um one um I just pulled a team together two years
028ago the academic counil trying to make sure we get teacher facy side trying inut on how focus on solve that so it's not a barain miss so we sat down this year goals of that the team wanted to look at this year was that so on few other folks and out during coun but um you know just to piggyback on what David said two years ago in academic Council it was way more how do we get our ducks in a row and get operations in in a in a foundation for pedagogy this year has been very refreshing because we are talking about how we are moving curriculum and instruction forward within the and I remember the first meeting David had some ideas about how we do it uh where we have some veteran teachers and
029some really smart folks on the staff that kind of said no I don't think that's the direction we should go with and this is what we need right and it became very obvious throughout the conversations um throughout the year that teachers are yearning for support and having a guaranteed and viable curriculum and in education we th throw that term around a lot and I've tried to think about how I explain it tonight what a what a guaranteed and viable curriculum is I think Janine hit on it a little bit I think Dr rackman hit on it a little bit maybe if go to the one more slide resources State Standards curriculum and lesson plans and I when I reflect back about my own career and I started in Atlanta Georgia a big school district I
030was a social studies teacher and 14 other social studies teachers in the in the district and um yeah another teacher came in and said Jess welcome here's where you have to teach if I can't teach calculus US History that's Beck's that's Beck's calculus book but um and I was a traditionally trained teacher through student teaching and and the whole deal and I looked at that and I'm like oh wow that's that's what I do huh I I teach everything in that book right and I went to work on it and did a really terrible job that first year because I didn't have support um I was autonomous in the classroom and this is what I thought a curriculum was but um and we have we have teachers within this District that feel the same way
031um and we need to give them support um 60% of the teachers at the high school close to 60% of the teachers at it are alternatively licensed they've never went through a traditional Teachers Program are they working their butts off absolutely are they teaching your but on absolutely I as principal CS he as as uh assistant principal mentors Within the building there is not the capacity to move those for folks forward it would kind of be like having a a team of cross country Runners that can run really hard and are working really hard and they don't have a coach there full time to tell them how to train um a guaranteed and viable curriculum is when you have a textbook B you have state standards you have lesson plans and you have somebody to
032support you to put all those things together codify and determine what is essential to teach so that way if so and so leaves at the end of the year and I hire a new English teacher the next year I can put that in front of them and say here you go this is what we run with there's another person down the hall that also teaches English one you are going to have the same common assessments you're going to have uh the same essential um skills that you teach and the same curriculum that's connected to your resource and the standards we don't have that right now and we and and we do not have teachers that have the capacity to do that or the ex um so um that's maybe I got ahe of you guys
033but um feel pretty passionate about it and uh just asking for your support to move the building forward we're at a point right now the district's in a great place and I'm loving that we're having conversations about how we increase pedagogy within the district but need more support to do that yes I'm gonna talk a little bit about curricul that I've worked with before so um first of all Heidi linhard I'm sixth grade math thank you for for having us here to talk to EXC um so I have been a teacher for 14 years and I have been in school districts where we had very limited resources I was in a sixth grade classroom where we had one history book for every three kids and the added challenge that history book was at a high
034school level so in coming to Sida and having just the abundance of resources that we have available to us and the money that we have put into those resources I can just say how grateful I am to be in a district that really helps teachers get off to the right start and I think that that's something that is a show of gratitude from teachers it's just how much we appreciate that um so I think it's important to talk a little bit about how teachers go through the process of um analyzing their curriculum so anytime we have a new curriculum whether it's newly adopted or we're moving into a new role there is a process that teachers need to go through in order to be effective in their lessons um and so it's it's important that
035we go through that when I first came to select Lia as a third grade teacher it was also the first year of adopting ready jet which is the grade three through five literacy curriculum and the first fear of adoption is always really tricky and here's why resources arrive as a one-sized fits all it is um Publishers Publishers um assume a certain number of school days they assume a certain number of hours within the day for us to teach the lessons they typically assume a certain need for students and then also just that um the same standards are applied for every single state in addition all Publishers will claim that their curriculum aligns with state standards they have to they're a business they're trying to sell a product so it isn't until teachers really comb through
036a curriculum in a deep way figure out where there might be gaps and where we need to supplement so analyzing a curriculum is a very lengthy And Timely process as Janine mentioned it is something that often happens outside of planning time because planning typically happens a daytoday resource diving is a little bit longer and it's a longer term commitment um so another thing that is important about analyzing a curriculum is that teacher education programs don't usually teach teachers how to do this they focus focus more on backwards design and on basic pedagogy um it's usually up to the districts to facilitate what it looks like to really go through a curriculum I learned um even in my ninth year of teaching uh before I started ready jet I was taught by an individual in my
037district who had a very similar role to the toasta position that we've been referring to and so that's kind of where I got some of the learning of how to go through this so really what you have to do is you have to come through every single lesson you have to align it with the standards you have to um double check your pacing that you're going to be able to reach everything by the end of the year some teachers even shoot for cmass so that way the students are ready for um for the State Testing um we had to create exemplars for the assessments analyze the level of riger there is a lot to it and so um for ready Jen in particular the challenge was the amount of resources so as David mentioned and
038this is the same company SAS this is unit one of the readygen curriculum I opted not to bring the 30 supplemental tests because I'm simply not that strong um so it is a very high quality resource but it takes a lot of time to really come through all of this just because of the amount that's there so when even as a ninth year teacher and having a background and going through curriculum it took me months to be able to go through this curriculum put it all together and create effective lesson plans beyond that it took me over a year to be able to make adjustments to meet the needs of my students and also ready again was very much teacher Center and I wanted it to be more student l so I made adaptations to
039the curriculum to make that happen so being able to go to an expert like the tosa that we're referring to to help me in that process ESS would have been instrumental it would have not only been a huge timesaver but also I think that my student outcomes would have been even more successful because I would have had feedback and I would have had a second perspective so I feel that bringing this position to cida would provide guidance as well as a lift for teachers so that teachers really have the opportunity to focus more on growing their students so I'm Ka Holden I'm teach kindergarten and I was just going to share on the experience me and my kindergarten team had on when introducing the reval math curriculum and how aossa would be able to support
040us and make it run smoother so when reveal math has introduced our team encountered several challenges and it made the implementation difficult um the first major challenge was a lack of effective training prior to the implementation so it felt like we kind of just left there to figure things out by ourselves um as we went along there was a lack of clear guidance to help us understand the best ways to implement resource in order to support our Learners coming from preschool suddenly into kind Gart where the academic level was poen a lot and so we needed to figure out how to make sure it was appropriate for our students and the trainings that we attended did not focus on the kindergarten components but it focused on upper grades and so that left us without a
041lot of on how to adapt the program meet our early Learners needs so the reveal math curriculum resource it just wasn't a great thing for kindergarten students it was heavily text driven and especially kindergarten we can't read so that led it to have to be very teacher guided Hands-On textbook and not a lot of learning through experience for kids it was a lot of us talking to them and not letting them experience math for themselves um so needed to use the same resource to ensure vertical alignment um and the scope and sequence work but it didn't align well with how our Young Learners were learning uh kindergarten students like I said they need Hands-On andac experiences in order to develop those really math concepts and the curriculum resource really relied on the heavy written content
042and textbook work instead um so it took an incredible amount of time for us to translate resources and materials to fit kindergart developmental stages and the vertical curriculum goals another challenge that our team encountered was the online materials they didn't always match what we had in our book so we would be looking at the student book on the screen so that students could see where we're at but it didn't actually meet match the text that they were looking at and that made it really hard so like page one would actually be on page two and so that made it hard for us as teachers as well as the students because we didn't always know when that was going to occur um so we need to help and instead it just took a lot of time
043to navigate the system and like others have touched on it wasn't time during our plan it was time outside of plan time and outside of our contract hours um so having a curriculum focused tosa during the adoption could have made a really big difference in the whole process a tosa could have helped us find or advocate for more Hands-On training before the implementation to help the teachers feel prepared instead of feeling overwhelmed they could have also helped adapt the curriculum to better fit the needs of our Young Learners instead of having the teachers spend more time out side of contract hours trying to figure it out additionally they could have provided ongoing and targeted supports so that the teachers weren't left to navigate the new Curriculum by themselves and still have to meet all their
044other teaching requirements um so our team the kindergarten team's experience with reveal math really highlights why a structured curriculum support would be essential aosa would allow teachers to focus on delivering high quality instruction that meets the need of our students so by investing in this position you are also investing tting in teachers which leads to Greater Student Success one of the questions of first how do collaborative time get used um so we just kind of want to go through and talk about how get used so would you mind just Shar how collaborative Elle yeah so collaborative time is uh our school is has the least amount of collaborative time so these guys we have five specials most grade levels kindergarten is always my exception on everything uh most grade levels have four sections so each
045grade level has a section uh has one special a day once a week they get a fifth special and so I work with them they come up with a plan where they're going to have one of their plan times during that week is where they all get together and do collaborative time uh and then on top of that I mean just because love you guys and they're incredible uh they uh pretty much every team meets during their plan as a team and is co-planning every day and so I don't know if I answered the question I wasn't sure uh but they yeah so they're getting together I don't know on average 50 minutes a week as a team and the rest of theirs is their plan time but they're carving out those hours those times
046not sure about yourid um so at your middle school what you have is then four days a week four period so 50 minutes times four middle school so very different in the elementary school um got to get a chance one of those periods they use forss just talking about specific students they're not talking about curriculum they're talking about the people like who's stuck what ideas we have stuff might be on the behavior side right or it might be on the academic side It's always important remember academics you can normally fix in a session or two theoretically behaviors are like six nine two years nine months and you can behaviors take large amounts of time to be working those things that's what we do and then another one of the what they're working on is they
047have vertical teams they break out of it's not just sixth grade sixth grade science teacher me seventh grade science teacher eth grade science teacher the SP team that allows them to look at some of these topics I'm talking about and the other two periods allow them to plan um and Le in their own team so the sixth grade team is g to meet and talk about how they're working together do a good job High School how does it used I think calls on this is just a sample of what we've been working on Sample what we've been working on in our department we just started this actually um just uh oh thank you we just started this uh um last last week um uh and so what I did is I created a little spreadsheet
048here with the standards on the leand side um uh and then uh the next column there is outcomes grade level outcomes and then grade level expectations in the middle so we're going through and reading through each grade level expectation and identifying you see the classes listed on the uh top in the right hand corner there um there everything from Modern History which is our ninth grade class up to senior seminar which is our future 12th grade class so what we're doing is identifying all the grade level expectation making sure that they are um where are we introducing those ideas which are those classes ining them uh where do we uh explicitly teach and assess it and then um where did we where did we review it um so that work right there just those couple
049little pieces of data up in the upper right hand corner of that handout that was the first half hour of our meeting uh our goal as a department is to finish this by December of this calendar year so about a year from now we hope to to have gone through this whole thing as well as a gap analysis so then we'll go back through and figure out what are we doing too much what are we doing not enough how do we move things around and make sure that we're hitting all the pieces and once we're all done with that then that just aligns us horizontally we're we haven't even had conversations with other classes like think interdisciplinary connections that are all over place in the curriculum and then once we also clearly know what we're
050teaching and assessing that's when we start to bring in our assessments um and share them with each other about in our instructional practices here's here's how I'm teaching this here's my assessment tool question the assessment tools reliability and validity um uh rethink how we're teaching things get ideas from our colleagues about how we're teaching things so we're a long way off from having those real in-depth conversations that we're looking forward to having um and part of the problem is where do you how is all this information once people sit around and do all this work um where do we put it all um so that it's there for future groups of people and and that kind of stuff too so um anyway that's that's kind of how we're doing um our what we're doing in
051just the social studies Department I know other departments are doing the same thing in uh um in the high school and we could all use a little bit of help from an expert um our next expert is like our next sign here is like generalists versus Specialists you know uh I'll be the first to admit I I have a undergrad in education a Doctorate in Education three graduate degrees in education and I'm not the guy to be a curriculum specialist there are people out there that this is their stick this is their thing this is what they do this is how they think and we need those people in here to help us and support us because the hour that we have each week is going to take a long time to get us to
052where we want to have uh collaborative discussions about instruction and assessment because that's where the real h rubber hits the road with our students um the generalist and Specialists you know what that person can do is is be a third point of contact between the curriculum that we have developed the the community of teachers that we have teaching it and then this other third person to kind of tell you sometimes the things that you don't want to hear I like to call them the lemon unit you know the lemon unit everybody loves the lemon unit we do the lemon unit every year in school the kids love it the parents love it the school newspaper even comes in and reports on it the lemon unit doesn't hit any standards and it's probably not even assessed
053but it's really fun and somebody needs to help us remove the lemon unit from the from the program because it's not really helping us achieve our goals um so um what does this faculty support look like um you know and and are we ready for it in in the in our next slide uh if uh the I would say that that what we need is somebody that's Visionary somebody that sees what the long the long game is you know I spent a lot of time in in uh working at a variety of different schools with a variety different curricula uh the a-level program a-level curriculum out of the UK is awesome the IB curriculum is awesome they tell you exactly what you have to teach we're the only country in the world where we don't
054do it like that we give these very V standards and and then states have to figure it out I don't think we're ever going to go that way either because the the future for the Department of that does not look solid um so um we're probably never going to have a nationalized curriculum that puts all that work on sorting that stuff out all the way down at the classroom level and and the school board School level right so we've got to figure these things out um uh the the key thing here is is what I said about um uh instruction and assessment we spend a lot of time trying to figure out what are we supposed to be teaching um when we should be figuring out how are we going to teach it how are
055we going to know if they know it and what are we going to do if they if they didn't learn it right um the the the conversation about what are we what are we focusing on what are we teaching should be just a done thing right so that we can get on in the meat and potatoes of what teachers do so um I think if I look at the data you know we did a survey um several of us did um the the the committee we surveyed each of our individual schools um what I saw in the data and Jesse can correct me yeah go ahead SC SC at the high school we have 30 staff members and 20 of them responded yeah yep so that's uh two-thirds of our staff and like Jesse mentioned
056you know 60% of our staff are um uh um alternatively licensed teachers that has an impact on people's willingness and Readiness for something like this um but overall the the the uh feedback was very positive I what what I see there is a lot of trust um I don't know how many people have this Vision uh of of some of these some of the high-end schools that I've worked in to have this thing articulating very smoothly and um uh completely is really good for students when I was in my IV programs we spent all all our department time figuring out how to do interdisciplinary units with other departments instead of just figuring out our own curriculum we were branching way out Beyond um just our own individual curriculums so we need somebody that's Visionary that
057can guide us through this process and I think what the data shows is that the high school teachers are ready for some sort of leadership in this capacity so so board members we flip through it I tried to write on top so I wasn't way to says shss right in the header Circle how many people took it right you can see all the comments too attached to that site and when you get to the next p graph the next pie graph would be the next campus just say you now sorry it's okay I mean I don't have to talk you should talk but I do have um do we want to go back to I don't think really right there right there okay all right um so my name is Libby wer this is my
05819th teaching um before I came to Longfellow I spent 13 years in mlon public schools um and so I'm feel like I'm kind of uniquely um not an expert on coaches or TOA when I look back on my 13 years I would not be the teacher I am today um without the help of those coaches and those teachers um so my role was to kind of look at how would aossa help our collaborative groups at um Lees and So based on our data I kind of looked at it just to try to org and thinking some of the things that teachers are saying to us that they want and here's I have to say this too um that I think we are in a phenomenal District but it's also in a really cool place because
059what I'm hearing teachers is yeah we're doing great but I want to do better I want to be a better teacher and when we start talking about pay and all those things are helpful your the raises and all that money is great but I think at the end of the day a lot of people just want to walk away from their work knowing that they did an amazing job for kids and so sometimes we can't do that on our own we need someone who is there walking besid us to help us with that so one of the things that our teachers um identified was that they really need help adapting curriculum to meet diverse Learners so as Heidi kind of pointed out when you come with a resource your resource is geared towards your middle
060of the road casts right every curriculum I conf but every voice resource says I have interventions and I have extensions for kids but as Ty said we did ready Jen in levelon and it took us probably three years of really working hard at it before it was good um and so we need some help with from someone who can look and dig deep into those intervention pieces and those extension pieces and bring them to us during collaborative time we can have conversations about kids and mtss the kids who are not moving the kids who are moving really fast much faster than we are and so they can give us that information that can help us move along a little faster um I have also found that if you have a tosa or some kind of
061Coach coming into your collaborative meetings you stay much more focused you're on the data you're you're it's it UPS the level of professionalism in your collaborative groups um generates outside the box thinking um also um it's great to help have them help you like collaborate with your teachers and um creating flexible groupings for kids um and also giving your ideas about how we can utilize all the talents and strengths on our team um to get better um another thing they talked about was they really really want aligning instruction AC cost grade levels so yes most resources are made to build on each other but when you have personalities and people and individuals teaching these things that's great we want that but a lot of times things get lost you might have a teacher who's like
062I love the lemon unit so I'm going to do the lemon unit and that doesn't really move their kids forward and if somebody else isn't doing the lemon or if somebody's really going with rigor there's just a lot of um Equity issues around that so um having aossa come in who's familiar with what's happening grade level below grade level above we can create common language around things so that kids all that knowledge is building for them right if they learned about this in kindergarten then I know that I'm going to do this in first grade to build off of that and then second grade is going to build off of that right now um vertical planning looks like me running down the hall to K and saying Ka tell me about place value what are
063your what what are you using right now and this is usually D during my plan time or her lunch time wunning to Beth Smith in second grade look this is this writing I'm asking them about what would you suggest what are need to change so having someone come in and help us um do that in a collaborative group who knows that super powerful um the last thing they talked about um using resources and curriculum to engage create engaging lessons and finding high quality instructional resources so again curriculum comes to you or your things and they're not always always that fun you know like you said it's like the teacher doing all the work right so it's changing those lessons so they're more kids centered having a TOA who's very knowledgeable about teaching and pedagogy and
064all those things having them in the room with you would be extremely help and and then another thing I know this down the line we've talking about first year codifying using them to kind of organize and manage and see what we have but what I'm hearing from um teachers is we want a coach we want somebody who will come into our room who will help us plan lessons who will teach it with us and then we have that immediate feedback like this went really well or this was really hard or are learning something from them you know if Heidi her she can't do that she's in but having else to do that is super powerful and then one last thing sorry is um I'm hearing a lot of conversation and a lot of what came
065from our data was we really would like to have um super laser focused professional development um schoolwide goals that were that are going to move our kids Based on cmass data or whatever the data is you want but um whatever the data is you want what are our kids lacking what do we need to move them forward and then everybody's to and every single moment of professional development time is committed to that so I think a to would be I also feel like this is every time I say to um yeah so it would be I think a powerful thing okay so we're gonna go back to data um and I'm just going to kind of reiterate what she said but with the numbers because I'm a numbers person um so all ultimately we did
066these surveys across the three schools so Lees SMS ands um just so that we could accurately represent what our teachers need so we asked teachers what their greatest struggles were and 81% of those teachers we had 18 I believe fill out our survey um somewhere around that 81% of those teachers said that adapting curriculum to meet their students needs was a major challenge 62.5% said that they struggle with aligning instruction across the grade levels and 50% said that using curriculum resources effectively was a challenge so this demonstrates that despite the incredible amount of work that our teachers do every single day um they just do not always have the access to the resources or supports that they need fully align curriculum and instruction so aossa would provide Guidance Resource alignment and instruction support to help
067address these gaps so we also asked teachers how much time they spent outside of their contracted planning time um so this would be planning organizing curriculum and resources or looking for supplemental resources to bring in 68.8% of those respondents reported that they spent an extra two to three hours per week outside of contract hours 18.8% reported spending six plus hours a week outside of contract time aossa would help reduce this workload by providing structured curriculum guidance and better align materials and this would allow teachers to focus more on the instruction and student learning the last question we asked was um how a curriculum focused tosa would be valuable and so the most common responses were that 62.5% wanted more professional development options that were tailored to their needs 50% wanted better aligned resources and materials
068another 50% said that aossa would reduce the stress of having to figure things out alone and 43.8% said that having a go-to person for curriculum support would be a huge benefit so again these responses really reinforce that teach feel that aosa would enhance and support their work by helping ensure alignment consistency and access to Quality instructional materials teacher how I do things um so with the middle school I'm not going to go into a ton of depth you've got the data in front of you um but one of some of the things that we noted um was that half of the teachers who responded demonstrated or responded that they had at least two or more components of curriculum work that they have trouble with um 15 out of 16 um responded that they had at
069least one way that they felt the to to support them the one person who wasn't quite sure is in a really unique role and so they weren't sure exactly what that would look like in as the TOA to be supporting them so my takeaway if you look at the data and you look at the um the responses is that teachers want this lift and they want to feel as though they feel as though it would benefit their instruction and when we have better instruction we have better student outcomes so my next piece of information is to talk a little bit about what the toaster bow would specifically be doing um and so this is something that we can talk about as a group in terms of what would be helpful talk to staff in our
070own buildings to determine exactly what would be supportive and what that would look like so the TOA would really be a boots on the ground partner to the assistant superintendent so the assistant superintendent is working on more of the structures and the systems that go along with curriculum and pedagogy and special population data PD which is all a full-time job in itself and so the tosa would be the one who's working directly with the K through 12 teachers and that would happen during plc's during vertical teams PD days and also as an in-house resource for teachers who want that extra support so the TOA would really be a collaborative partner with teachers and an ally um and they would be supporting teachers in that really important work around curriculum that needs to happen so specifically
071they would be guiding teachers through the curriculum analysis process so kind of what I mentioned before about going through that every single lesson instead the TOA would be providing a framework to help streamline the process and including doing some of the back work so that way when the teachers are going through this task it's not so daunting um that would also in peral map like what Paul mentioned that U that they're doing right now that initial step and then you can build on it from there um the TOA would also meet regularly with principles and vertical teams to really talk about those impactful ways of teaching your content our surveys so showed for the middle school that vertical alignment is one of the biggest struggles in teachers made when it comes to curriculum uh the
072TOA would collaborate with teachers who want support in using their resources to provide more engaging lessons so you can have the most standard aligned and rigorous curriculum and you still will have students who don't connect and so sometimes that happens because as we heard before sometimes the curriculum is to teacher left so the TOA can help support individuals to make more of a student centered lesson plan um using the resource so they can be kind of a support for that um and then finally helping support those brand new teachers whether they're coming from a different um from a traditional program where they send student teaching or they're doing an alternative lure where their first day in the classroom is day one and that's that's a big challenge the tosa could really support them with navigating
073through these curriculums and these standards and so really help them with anything that they might need in terms of that placing or we in N workor so our vision talk a lot about Vision our vision is that we would like to have two toses we're not asking for this today but we would like to have ideally two toses and the reason for that is that K through 12 curriculum work is a huge gole and so if we were to Able if we were able to instead have one role of tosa that is Math and Science and one tosa who's responsible for social studies and Lang then the toes are really going to be able to be even more beneficial to students because they are experts in that content area so um I have personally seen
074the improvements that happen within a district when a role like this is introduced it improves retention teacher morale student outcomes and so um I believe that this role would really fill a need that we have in this District to build in some of those systems so then that way we have some more continuity and we can make a larger impact in this District well do hi I'm L Dennis I'm a toddler teacher at the E I want to make a quick note and thank you I have worked in five different states as a certified teacher this is the only District that has a certified Early Childhood position so thank you for that I'm really appreciative and I love that you support so okay so don is our instructional coach we're so thankful for her um
075she's tremendously helped us specifically with three things that I want to touch on our PLC is with Don pres so she meets with us as lead teachers the assistant teachers as well as our pair of professionals and it's really helped us because in those meetings um what you were saying with Don present is a lot more professional and now we do more Team Planning so we collaborate more on how to problem solve challenging situations we can discuss how to implement our curriculum we also can discuss how um different parts of the curriculum actually are going in our classrooms um it also helps if we're all together to kind of know and understand the expectations as a whole group uh having that aligned curriculum has been helpful because for us at the ECC it kind of
076ensures that uh every child's developmental milestone is going to get met um it also helps to provide a framework and postes that are social emotional comptitive physical growth um it has really helped us with our professional development I feel like it's been really helpful impactful it doesn't feel like time filler or just something that we have to do it feels like okay they let us know what the curriculum is this is how we can enhance that so that's been really helpful um having Dawn on site is super fantastic because um what one teacher said that I asked it was super great she said that Don can kind of go and work behind the scenes because we don't have time to do beyond what we're doing inside the classroom so don can give us fresh ideas
077um and help us out outside of what we're actually doing in the classroom um Don is able to give us instant feedback you can come in observe um and then give us some coaching strategies to help with that curriculum into practice and the last thing I want to say is I think having Don and just her support makes us as teachers feel like we don't have to take it all on ourselves obviously Teresa and the adminon is super helpful with that too but if there's a problem I know that I can go to other people to get a solution um and having that coach there has been great I feel super supportive and I think that that really leads to staff retention and having people oh my gosh thank you you Steve support um I
078well I'm gonna back up so I started working in connection with the SLA school district and Early Childhood Center in 2005 so can't believe kind of going into 20 years but my background has been um in special education I was a special education teacher there for quite a while and just in the past um three years I switched over to the educational Coach position and um in alignment with kind Teresa taking over one of the things I think in my in my reflection as being a special ed teacher the more curriculum that we were implementing like in a box caned way the more Behavior we were seeing at the school which meant me as the teacher I was getting more behavioral curls um and I just kept they like why doing this is we're kind
079of spiraling um and so what I came on as the educational coach we kind of blew it up I just didn't think like it was it wasn't effective I feel like kids were struggling there you left behind it really the staff was bur out as well and so I think it took finally after three years I feel like finally getting there but it really took kind of blowing up what we did and looking more from like a uh Viewpoint rather than just going for curriculum and we kind of LED with that and then we added with curriculum as on shair it was um coaching is built into our system as David chair um but but it really wasn't functioning what we found was there wasn't any Fidelity across our classrooms in terms of best practices
080um and so we just kind of BW up the system aligned with two evidence-based curriculums and then um and then said we're going to support teachers to implement this to Fidelity um and that of course includes a play based approach and and just from my leadership perspective I prob you mentioned Vision it was like here's the big Vision um and having Dawn in this role has been instrumental in um in turning it into action right like in making for professional development and and teacher growth um so we're we're super excited about how that's going in early childhood and we've seen um impacts immediately not just with children and increasing positive behavior reducing negative behavior but in our staff um we have one Superstar veteran teacher who said she was feeling burned out and this has
081rejuvenated her she's got you know several more years in our thinks to just sort of um this this focus on best practices and pedagogy and I'm excited to we excited to work with Corey as I would say we've just really gained some traction over the last two years um so that will be our children our preschool children that are headed to kindergarten next fall um so I'm excited to work with Cory and his team and and kind of see tracks and outcomes of on to twoes and again with having this position we we couldn't couldn't have done it want to share certain things SK so we're kind of at this point in all all field Q&A I don't want to make agend I think it's important to hear from teachers that was a lot so
082thank you all for coming in and giving us that um B do you guys have questions with staff while they're here otherwise we can direct more questions towards David either now or later I'm sure we'll think more things wherever jod is she's got thoughts to share now you gu a little bit you take that anybody else wants to add to my answer but I think that's why you got two things that team says one would be call Depon heads doesn't work as well the elementary term needs those people use calls exam from social studies volunteering spending a little extra time making sure that the input is there reaching the ground and then Paul needs to go back and teach his class so then what happens to that conversation if you have person who doing system
083development you sat in that chair and then the teacher go back to the class you put money on the table that piece that was left that last 10 15 20% of the getting the curriculum in place so that you can turn around and start to support moving forward that's what we've spun about 20 years I that assistant person assist need the teachers Mentor teacher that would be like to Lear have and then I think you me somebody who to the ground and said don't worry I heard everything I took notes I turn those notes into a functional document get everybody's input I will I will manage all that conversation I will bring the final product for your teams review that will be the concept guys would extend into that may great question why not just
084have that's l oh all te L you jumping okay go ahead that okay so that was one of my questions thank you um where's this time going to come from I know that time is the resource that is lacking the most in education we just can't get enough of it right so all of a sudden you have this other person coming in that you need to meet with that you need to collaborate with that you need to where's that time going to come from to meet with them you're sitting your planning time so are you willing to give up your planning time where you're creating your lessons where you're meeting with your team for you know like that's I feel you and I absolutely care everything you're saying I absolutely hear what you're saying um
085my other question would be you must have mentioned word expert a thousand times where is this expert that can come in that knows the standards in every grade for every subject that can collaborate with you across grade levels to M's point that is so much knowledge to have where is this expert price um so I guess those would be some big SS of mine I I know you need it I hear you but I I would want I would and I hav seen it be successful in the past when we' had this happen across the whole District like if it was one school or it was one subject but to have one person come in and take on this Monumental job I worry about if that or find that expert if we can find him
086bring him in love it C m and yes and I see and I know how much time is outside the classroom that teachers get I was there for 30 years I did 70 hour weeks right I mean it's I don't think that's ever going to change in the teaching World we're always going to take work home um my worry would be that this would create more work not less um so again it has to be a strong I don't know these are just questions thoughts going through my mind um because we do want to support you and I heard what I heard which made me feel really good is that you do have a lot of planning time especially for high school right and that that's valuable and that we have been giving you raises
087and we have been giving you the money because maybe that's not what's important maybe you would rather have this toast than some more money um I heard that what else just that you have support from your administrators from David and us and that makes feel good and we want to continue to support you amen I don't know I have so much going I have so many notes but I'll start with I to I think I will just add from the team's perspective where because like they were like no we need more um and I was like I was like I was just really I've struggled to just drop coaches or any of these kind of positions in there without being able to say how are we GNA actually manage this is the first time that
088I feel like over a decade ministrators asking me for this sort of support this is a longterm persistent task to say okay for one year I know that I can have get all the curriculum in order get all that stuff space because even if I don't understand everything about kindergart curriculum I can go to a team listen and do the hard work codified and published then at the end of the year and go I can see my gaps 60% I'm better than I thought or I'm worse than I thought um and we can talk and then come back with okay here's how we invest in the structure I felt like the way of reason I could support this versus just hire three new coaches that was too ambiguous for me to say I could keep
089that accountable I felt like this structure I can support because see how I can hold it accountable and come back and say we tend to do this we delivered on this you know we can get to the we're 60% there or 100% there felt like from an administrator person you could supervise this structure and then come to the next question and say they really want to get to coaches want to keep hearing teachers and keep hearing our teachers be really clear with us our professional structure professional development structure is not working um you I've been here trying this tweaking and make it better for many many years or you been here for a few years um and I've heard this piece and so I'm also have an interest in teacher saying this would meet what
090I'm looking for profession might find out in two years later it struggles the same the past one did but I'm not interested in saying let's keep doing what we've done but hasn't scratch that itch let that need try again like to try something different this is where I feel like the incredible teaching the experience these guys are bringing is very very fast it's very broad years of experience Ines really is and I think Jesse said the I came in with the plan share it with you guys in August he said it's the wrong plan and they threw it out and I'm so I've got to bring forward what they really believe is the best way to step forward in develop culture so just want to add that part of my perspective to the team's voice
091deeply appreciate that they've come and shared their I guess I I had a question for you Blackburn in terms of you know I'm clearly hearing a need clearly hearing a want um from the teachers which is important um but I'm also hearing that this is an enormous undertaking um from members from teachers and have you thought about maybe having this person just focus on the high school or just focus on you know English or social sciences or stem or you know it does seem like I'm a little concerned if they try to do everything it might just be a failure I think that's why for me the other thing that's been asked for for over a decade from principles what they've heard is Department ads I think it's got to be both hands you got
092support you've got to have those teacher volunteers the ones that want to do a little extra and you got to put a little money and a sement some sort of out rate gather their boots in the ground input and you're going to have a sense maker it's the sense maker we never had that the grounder in terms of how many years would it take you to do this there's the other part of my career I've been trying in this District to get that guaranteed LEL dri decade it's still not there kind of at the point of I can't wait anymore and be patient anymore because I think it hurts some kids so I'm like we got it we got it grab the go by the horse we got everything else in order and if we
093get 60% of the way through it and we realize wow we didn't just didn't get secondary lter school we just really didn't get primary math okay I can come back in a really clear plan two or the gaps right I can I can figure out that way right now it's so big coming with these generic plans that are aspirational got to break it down into something you can start to have small pieces and say in place in place success Gap not working I can so many of us can come up with a way to tackle what's but right now it's this ambiguous kind of AA thing I feel strong in a Visionary standpoint that's you got to get past that and jump in and deep in and what's different now between three years ago is
094I didn't have teachers saying let's jump in um teachers are saying let's jump in What waiting for it so for me Readiness is a huge piece in development assist so I think those are some to into that I'm not going to belittle the size of it um I also Ed to have an assistant superintendent when I sat in that role I had nine months I didn't have 12 I spent half my time trying to do special ed or child fund on months of our life trying to like this person's not gonna happen I think they can do the system and I think this will give us the capacity to get us in a place where we can see how closely to work it may flip quick if not we can map it out over two
095or three years in a way that taxpayers can say I can see exactly how my dollar is going there and teachers can say can see exactly how this person's meting my expectations so we can replicate what's happening to their childhood with those staff is it is change in their perspective it's what L and shares what toes shares but Don shares me changing their perspective of their effectiveness they feel in their job which is important to us and that's question long answer it's huge we got to huge yeah I mean I'm okay with the huge but but so what I'm hearing is sort of seven and eight in our recommended operation kind of for me they go ah because I think either one doesn't do the other one I've seen the department ads I've seen um
096those people on the personality passes the document that started passes and have seen up Faith and that seem to create that sustainability because we have personalities so I would just have one um I've always been very Li being administrative heavy and I'm feeling like we're getting we have superintendent assistant superintendent we have principles and assistant principles we now have an assistant I'm not gonna throw those words in your face but an assistant to the assistant to you right so I just is there another way we could work this without hiring a whole new a whole new administrator and I know you all have your hands full also but again we're adding another administrator I want it to be or well this point yeah so I just I need I need to be honest how or
097or what else does m look like in a different manner is this our only option is this tosa or can we reconfigure some of our Administration call yes I good answer i' love that that's and I think too if funding you know it's all up in the air if just rolling a one-ear position would it be valuable not I know you know the answer I'm just thinking okay I want say so I've heard a lot of testimonial evidence that I cannot disagree with I do agree with it my question is looking away from the testimonial part but toward like the problem like an objective problem that can be fixed and measured that it has been fixed what are those problems that we could after four years of aosa be able to evaluate and say man
098alive not that everybody's happier but like what in black and white is better anybody also think they think Jody are these comments this is your your to ask questions ask questions the staff yes correct yeah save your comments for that stuff yes ma'am indeed I said indeed changes in they were not anert sing theyt collabor imag but I think it might be interesting to look and see when we make a commitment toing future development and equ and all talking to see how most things but um intered to see what happens with because you have really great tier one instruction El and our teachers being bettery I think it be interested to see how that Chang I think that would be a really interesting okay we'll save more comments for 5c conversation I will say my
099comments for now to be someone there's a few of us that are still probably looking some me from our time CBT that are on the board and this is like compl from the conversation been Happ last few years have and been a much more positive outlook and student oriented and staff growth oriented and focused so welcoming fresh really appreciate it really appreciate guys and sharing with us your passion for this world um I would say probably in my maybe I should say this for later but my my thought always goes back to my standard of I didn't think about bringing CMC into the history D showed up meeting with you just said what do we have why do we have to do this we're already like scoring really well we're doing really well but we're
100trying to change the narrative because we see gamps and we think we can do better for our kids so I'm the banker not sure if I'm a good [Music] I got a few different opion [Music] all right bre quick bre thank you for coming thank you for spending your evening with us Jody will jump on soon [Music] I e e e I um I have no idea where we are in the meeting I think we're still in District reports you are that's right we're back to the financial update which cleared the room the room cleared the room got a spree and nobody nobody we have any YouTube users watching where the cookies go the cookies there they are they're still there all right Aaron the show is yours okay well I was much nervous when
101this room was full but all right uh so yeah actually David did uh I've been having a lot of conversations recently with David about budget and the state budget and the just everything nationally that's going on and um the one thing I think that surprised him is I'm really not stressed about our finances at all I'm stressed about plenty of things but I'm very not stressed about this so I titled this presentation perspective why I'm simply sipping espressos while the state screams crisis which I really wish Emily was still here because she would have clapped because that's the best alliteration that's ever been here soir yeah she would have clapped shout out to Emily Lamont all right um so the truth is funding is failing we are having an issue in the state so we
102want to talk about what the problem why is everybody freaking out there is a $1.2 billion shortfall in the state budget currently um as in December the forecast was $670 Million deficit so it's getting worse so we should be freaking out that's true the reason it got worse is because they forgot that we had voted in a $350 million increase to law enforcement this year in November so that money has to be spent this year we voted that in as Citizens it's uh I don't know if it was forgot but it wasn't into the December one and it was voted in November but that's okay um it's 350 million has to be done in Grants it's all towards uh law enforcement Support Services you can apply for things like increased salaries you can apply for
103lots of things it's not set to extend for future years unless the legislator decides to continue it um which is going to be interesting because a lot of places could increase their salaries and things like that with these grants and then there's no plan on how they're going to fund it long term so it was just a onee vote yes that's what we did um and then there was another there was another $80 million in increased Medicaid spending and then in January and February they did a true up so you can kind of think amended budget for the state to some extent uh and there's another 80 million so there's 160 million there so that's how we get to that $1.2 billion doar in a shortfall um also I'm just realizing Jody I had a
104printed copy did you do you have this or can you see it some okay okay perfect and then the last point is just that like in the past few elections in the state of Colorado we keep doing this we keep passing things where we pass expenditures but we don't pass we we get to pass expenditures but we don't have the revenue Source that's going to pay for it so we have passed upk we have passed free food we have now passed this $350 million for law enforcement and we do not have a continuous Revenue stream that's identified when voters go to the polls so just something that you might consider as you start talking to your constituents we should make sure that we actually have revenue streams when we vote these things in but legislator
105is going to deal with it it's not good though because you have to think that the state's expenditures are directly tied to our revenue and the state does have to balance its budget so there's reason people are freaking out it's justifiable reason we're at a $1.2 billion shortfall they have to find places to cut um so they put some potential Solutions on education so you go to page three here there's kind of three that are on the table right now all of which are going to cut funding in some capacity to K12 education they can they uh the governor came out and he suggested that we remove averaging so the way our formula current works out currently works works is we're paid per pupil but our our per pupil count is averaged all good our
106per pupil count is averaged over a time period of four to five years and then that's the pupil count that we actually get funded for the governor basically looked at at October counts across the state and said we can put the new formula into place but we could just get rid of that averaging and just pay you for how many students you have and that's going to cut $150 million off the budget because we're actually paying for more students than are currently existing in Colorado if you just go for pupil because we're averaging and total enrollment across the state has declined and so we're we're paying for more students than are currently here the reason you average though and the reason they've done it forever is because then you don't have these big swings if
107you lose a hundred kids from one year to the next you don't lose a million dollars so that's why they've had averaging in the past the governor has basically said hey why are we paying people for empty seats you know it if Min for small districts like us Buist to Leadville it does minimize the pain because you don't suddenly have to figure out a million dollar shortfall you can ease into that over four to five years um but it's his thought it would cut 150 million off I personally support it I'm in the minority of school leaders who support it but I do support it and I'll kind of get to why that is um but two-thirds of the districts would see a revenue decrease if he does that because two-thirds of the district have
108declining enrollment from last year to this year alone and so they will see a revenue decrease um another option was to delay the new formula so they passed formula 14 uh funding State Bill 1448 which is the new funding formula which increases per pupil funding so they could just delay the new formula um move it back a couple years and keep the current formula as is and that's one option I think that's probably the least likely option because doing that would go back on basically everything they've told the voters and everything they've told um school districts case is pushing hard against it legally I think they would struggle to get that through but it is a possibility that's where we'd see the least increase however we'd still see an increase because we've been growing on
109average every year for five years so we would still see an increase from that or they could take the averaging and they could come to some agreement where they say okay we're not going to get rid of averaging but we're not going to average over five years we're gonna average over two or three years instead and try to minimize the pain but also have the state take on some of that pain in all three of those situations we end up with more money we end up with slightly different amounts of more money but we end up with more money in all three of those situations and so again we're in the minority across the state and I think that's important if you go to the next slide like is this reasonable concern is there a
110reason everybody's freaking out yes of course there is so I put together BV Lake County Fremont re2 which is actually it's not Canyon City but it's Fremont County um cotxi Park County and mosta because these are our closest um neighbors and then Fremont that's not Canyon City is the closest in size to us and they're actually on your salary comparison chart so I figured it was a good one to to pull into the list if you look on the left that left column that's the current funding that they are getting this year per the formula that's in place this year if they go to Just implementing 1448 as they said they would each of these districts would be getting more money this year that's not going to happen there's going to be some phase in
111of that formula so in January the governor came out with a request to get rid of the averaging and you can see every single one of those districts if you compare the left column to the right column are losing funding and so every one of them is nervous right now about what are we going to do how are we going to support kids however it at the same time this is the reason I'm somewhat in support of the governor's request here is because the new formula offers more money per student at a at a rate that is high enough to offset some of the pain so for example BV is down something like 60 kids in a year you'd think oh well that's 600 $600,000 at 10,000 bucks a kid and yet they're only down
112$260,000 if they go with the governor's replac so to me I think you lost 60 some kids you probably need to find ways to cut your expenses at that point you need to adjust your programming now I know again that's an unpopular opinion and I understand that's painful and I get it but it's it's just kind of my opinion at this point Point each one of them is currently kind of comparing I shouldn't say each one of them but much of the pain that they're experiencing is they're looking at the middle column saying when we agreed to funding formula 1448 we all thought we were going to get more money and now some of us are actually getting L wow if I compare the middle column to the far column I'm actually losing $600,000 but
113I never actually had the middle column yet so it's kind of an interesting deal there's a lot of people in the state arguing about it but if you look at the bottom line we are one of the few districts in the state who are in this in this situation this year from the state formula we're getting 14, 400,000 if they implemented 1448 with the rollout period that they have we'd increase to 15, 269,000 if the governor took his request and they got rid of averaging we'd be at 15 million and that's because of a rollout period that they have in place for 1448 so there it's only increasing by a certain amount over time basically so that's why there's no change for us in those two scenarios either scenario that they would go with there
114would actually we gain about $800,000 according to their initial request and that's wall cutting the state budget on so again it doesn't impact us the way that it does everybody else um but I do think it's justifiable concern for a lot of districts in the state if you go to the next slide this is Slide Five this is some comparisons that Jim put together for us that show student count over time periods and I just want to highlight if you look at the last four columns the top five are our Bose districts um so the top five lines Is Us Lake buav Vista Park and kotap paxi those are the Bose's districts if you look at the fiveyear counts and we're the only District that grew in this area in five years if you just
115look at the one-year counts this October counts we the only District That Grew last year every other District changed and so you can see why there's stress and fear here there's a lot of De declining enrollment across the state Even in our area we're the only one grown so a lot of other people are not experiencing this same conversation that we get to have right now um in fact they're trying to figure out how they're going to cut their budget but it's okay so how do we compare to other districts across the state so we took a bunch of other Mountain districts that we know of that we compare ourselves to or that people have asked us to compare ourselves to and again you're going to look at the five-year count and with all of
116these districts were the only one that has grown in total in five years if you take the one-year count there's actually a couple districts That Grew From Last year to this year but only a couple it's pretty minimal and percentage wise were the highest growth the thing that I think is interesting one of the reasons I support the governor's request so much is because of this last one Durango and again this is a public meeting so I'll probably have people that are frustrated with me but Durango made an intentional move to cut their online programming I believe and they knew that was going to cut about 770 kids out of their school district they made that decision if the governor's request goes through or 1448 goes through or the current funding formula goes through they
117get to average that decrease even though they made the conscious decision to cut those kids out of their system they get to average that over years and so they actually see in the case of if the um Governor's request goes through they only lose something like $400,000 if the for full formula 1448 goes through they would gain um $800,000 and so again I'm not the the fear that people are having is that they're taking $150 Million worth of promised money out of K12 education in Colorado and I agree with that that's a problem I would like to see that $150 million stay but it's not impacting us either way right now it could at some point I think that's important to understand but the bigger problem is we keep having things that get put into
118place that we can't afford and so I actually support the governor coming out and saying we need to find some solutions where we're actually paying for kids that are in buildings and taking care of the people that are educating them so right yeah pay you more but not pay for ghost from the hard part is there's there's districts in the state small districts in the state right there's one for example that I was looking at with David that with the averaging system next year is set to get so under the current formula and formula 1448 with the averaging they're set to get about $2.5 million this year they had 27 kids in roll their school district so they're getting about $100,000 a kid under the current F Well we get 10 to 11,000 a kid
119frankly I I would love to see the 150 million stay in the state and in K through 12 education like I can get behind that but I can also very much see why the governor is like why would I pay that when the money could go to another District that actually has kids so and in either case it doesn't affect us greatly so the next page I just put Why Us and I think this is the most important part um I I I break it down into three things our staff we've worked hard I think David has worked really hard will has worked really hard in HR to develop the quality staff we're continuing to try to find ways to develop a quality staff um from hourly supports to the administration of the board the
120goal is to bring student learning we share one Mission which is every student by name by need um we have appropriate supports our sped programming is robust it's our tosa support support in our Deans has been working out exceptionally well we are able to meet every student where we need to um and we have appropriate student to teacher ratios for individual learning and for group learning so an example about that is we have roughly 24 kids per class in fact I think tonight in thei policies I don't know the exact policy number believe it's I there's a class what's that I IBB there's a class size policy and a lot of people have asked me well how are other districts paying people so much more and if you research it lot of districts in the
121Front Range have 32 kids in a class whereas we average more like 24 that's eight kids in every classroom just for context if you took one teacher out of every grade level at the elementary school you save about $70,000 and you could divide their kids into the other classes and have the same class size that they have in Denver which I think none of us want to do and I don't think the teachers want that to happen from everything I've heard but you'd be able to put $20,000 in each of their pockets and still retain a profit of that so it's a amazing that the Front Range is not paying them substanti more actually that's just my thought we have really good programming we have a robust set both in education and activities which means
122there's opportunities for people to get involved kids to engage to perform and understand different asset or different uh passions and then I tried to go through my vision of working with the district what I've seen we talked about ECC we have certified teachers at ECC which no one else has we're leading the leading the charge on that and largely that's to me when we look at our test scores at at Longfellow I think that's largely because it starts at ECC we're engaging kids at a very young age and pushing them through that then they get to elementary school we have amazing early intervention programs we have really good uh I don't know if it's correctly you have good resources there and really good engagement on the teams and all of a sudden you see the
123growth scores you see the um achievement scores through the roof you start to get into middle school and I think think about the um I remember what it is that they called it but they took all the students and basically did a student Retreat this year and they provided opportunities for them to go around and find their passions and then they get to high school and we are now building in education requirements and education Pathways that are helping them find success and the passions that they're finding throughout the time there so we are improving even in the two to three years that I've been here vertically aligning everything and getting people across the board and then the biggest piece is we have a very good reputation and and we live in an awesome location we
124live in Salida it's the best place in the world except for the wind obviously um we're always above the national average on tests we're always above the state average on tests when I go to any convention we were sitting at what was it casbo last year and me and David are having a cup of coffee and we're literally sitting there and people next like I got to go find uh Dr blackart and talk to him about that and I'm like well he's sitting right here you need like he's well known in in the school districts we have teachers that are being re recognized at the state level for what we're implementing we're initiating things with our concurrent enrollment Grant we had how many people came down from CD the other day to ask us how
125we are doing what CMC 20 people yeah from the Department of Education Department of work-based learning pretty exciting we're recognized and we are kind of the high water mark for success in a lot of these cases the speaker of the house has called David multiple times in the past few years to ask his opinion on school districts and financing and formulas we've had so different legislators we've built Partnerships locally with colleges which other schools are not doing with other Community Partners we buil Partnerships with them I don't need to go into all the detail on and other Educators and then locally I don't get any questions about our finances we put out the tax um mil ly we posted that on the website I've spoken to three people onl three people so far two of
126them came to me to ask me what the difference was explained it to them they were happy a third one was from DV and called and said the county sent them to me because I could explain it to them why theirs was different the county called me and specifically told me they are Fielding daily calls and consistently trying to answer this question for people so they're calling the County but they're not calling us they trust us that we have our house in order and and for the most part we do we haven't had any issues we haven't been seeing massive debts in a long time so our reputation is huge and to me our reputation and our ability to grow that reputation become even better leads to more dollars you think of it as a
127business the more kids we get the more money we get the more we can invest in so our reputation to me is our number one thing so to me seeing this tonight hearing our teachers Joe what you said at the end is like we're having different conversations than we've had over the past two years our reputation has changed pretty dramatically so the next slide is just something that I was thinking about today Socrates regard your good name as the richest Jewel you can possibly be possessed of it speaks to our reputation and we're in a good point but I actually think we need to push our reputation even further um I think we can do better I really do and so I'm gonna talk a little bit about the finances I'm going to talk a
128little bit about what we discussed earlier on the operational wish list um I think that we we've approached a point from the out I would say the outside perspective now moving on the inside perspective where the board the staff the administration even other part of the staff are much more aligned in seeking one common goal activities ssps I think we're seeing a lot greater alignment we're seeing more people come to the table and say this is what I want this is what I need to be successful to make the district successful to make my students successful um all the way to our classified staff we're seeing Buy in from many of them in the mission um go talk look at the lunchroom and go go watch your custodial staff or your maintenance staff like there's
129a lot of Buy in here and so it leads to the question of why would I recommend a million dollar change in our operational wish list and I think Ben you asked a fair question earlier like what are we getting out of negotiating with these things what are we getting out of a million dollars I want to be fiscally conservative there's a lot of fear in the air and I get that right now the best number I have for you is we're GNA get 800,000 more no matter what they decide they could change that easily they could put the BS factor in in the next three weeks we might see something that drastically changes it but right now we're looking at getting roughly $800,000 wor and I hate this sheet for what it's worth it's
130important that you all get this and that you get to see the numbers on this and that you get to put a dollar amount to it but it only represents the best information I can give you so steps and levels $188,000 Yes except for one person just left their job and we hired somebody at a master's 15 we're paying them less than we're paying the person who left their job who retired so okay steps and levels yes but this doesn't encapture any of the savings that we're going to see from those types of situations at the end of the year and so this total 990 when I bring you the budget it's not going to be a million dollar change if you approve all of these things it's going to be less than this number
131it's hard to give you an exact number but it stresses me out to give you that sometimes because I think that that's not Incorporated so to me the biggest pieces are if you look at the next the next one this is our uh salary salary comparison sheet next slide again I took out the individuals on some of these um you you all have done an excellent job at pushing the market everybody in your district is taken care of above Market which is the other 12 District that we compare ourselves to which are all based upon pupil count 13 because BV is also there even though they're not in pupil count that's because that's how we get our Revenue everybody is above Market except for basically the teachers which is shown at every level we hire
132them lower they're lower at step eight they're lower at the max pay and then the nurses slightly even the other ssps the counselors the therapists they're above market value currently from all these other districts I think we can do better and I think we need to do better and I think we need to take a risk and I'm going to kind of come back to that in a second but to me that is that is a place we have to invest more of our money into and it's been a passion Matt you mentioned it recently at a board meeting saying hey I think that we're below the state average this is something we need to kind of push and so anyways just an analysis of this if you flip the page I also think you've
133done really really well so I had I had one teacher come to me recently and say if I I go to Alamosa I can make $7,000 more next year said all right fair enough let me go take a peek at it I haven't I haven't ever looked at Alamosa but let me go take a peek at it so hold it up Alamosa ba step one $4 43,7 we're at 42,5 to start they are hiring at $574 more they work two extra days to your point Joe but it's only two Alamos is on a four- day week as well 500 bucks pretty close to our for um ma step one so if you come into to their district with a with a masters you've never taught before they'll pay you 47,1 se2 we'll pay you 47,48
134which is a total difference of $24 so we're actually doing significantly better there per day than almost is their steps are different than ours their salary schedules changed but you can see we're really close they max out at step 22 we max out at step 30 they allow 10 years of service at hiring we allow 15 you can see though at the bottom their highest salary for BA 73,000 ours is 65 66 basically their highest salary total PhD and high Masters is 86 ours is 74 so even though we're close at the beginning to Alamosa we are below Market on what they can achieve over their career now I will tell you this that same I'm not use names but the same teacher who said this to me in looking at it they could only
135go and get hired nowos at a step 10 which is very close to what they are currently making in our district and so that's something to keep in mind because you can't just transfer another district and make the same salary always so it's just something to keep in mind you're doing a good job of paying teachers I still think you can do better and I think we should do better um so we're gonna go to the last slide because the question is I'm asking you to take a risk what happens if the bottom falls out next year what happens if the funding from the federal government dries up and they don't pay for anything what happens if the state decides to put a BS Factor back in and we've approved raises and all that type
136of stuff your system at SL school district is built to absorb it's built to absorb risks at least for one year you've got a robust a couple of robust support systems that you could collapse slightly if you needed to just without even doing a riff or anything potentially through attrition through any any needs necessary but we have robust system there um You' built reserves you're looking at the financial plan we talked about 30% which is kind of Joe what you had written in the last one being kind of the Target high end of our regular fund 10 reserves we're basically there we're at 5.8 million our budget's 19 million we're really close to 30% so we're basically at the top of what we want to Target for our reserves um we built that philosophy on
137the budget we could always decrease transfers if the bottom completely falls out we could always just say we're not going to transfer this 660,000 this year I know that's not the ideal goal but you could do that and not touch a single person's salary and cover more than half of this if it help and you'd still have roughly two million in the bank depending on how the year shakes out and if we actually are able to purchase but you still have to milli a bank in your category three fund because you've been Sally responsible this is this is important you put yourself in a position where you are able to take risks at the right time um so our house is in order because of the D due diligence of you the staff the administration
138largely not because of me I'm only been here in this role a year but because of all the work that you've all done I think so I think that my microphone is on right now and no I'm kidding I'm kidding um the point is we're the house is in order like we we can take risk and I think this is the most appropriate time for I think every other District not every other but at least every other District locally is panicking right now wondering if they're going to riff probably not going even come to the table with the ra this year they're going to struggle just trying to stay on their current levels I think you could do a million dollar risk and actually increase your reputation be the only District locally that's Prov providing
139raises and provide a TOA that can support your staff in the way that they're asking you to support them and it's pretty minimal risk like we want the tosa to be successful I heard that repeated but worst case scenario the tosa is not successful at the end of four five six years and they're still a teacher they still can be effective in this District you're still gonna have somebody leaving the district at some point and in the meantime they can build a curriculum or at least the start of a curriculum house it somewhere to to point where is it even house who how do we organize it how do we house it um you can pay your department heads you can pay I just as a poker player who made a living doing it you
140gotta at some point take a risk there's no better time to take a risk than right now why are we holding on all our chips you've done a really good job but two years ago you took a huge risk and you put2 million extra dollars in the salaries and it looks like our reserves are com so we're good with a risk then this is way more responsible time to take a risk where we actually can get something out of it so your point then earlier what are we getting out of the negotiations well we're becoming the best District locally by a long and I don't think we need to stop here but so I'm not scared I think the state is going to do something I think they're going to decrease funding I think they're
141going to decrease funding to roads and I think they're going to decrease funding to healthcare and I think they're going to decrease funding to schools and the police force and the fire departments Etc and we're going to get hit with some of it and yet out of everyone in the state or positioned to do better than other so thank you for putting us in that position and if you want my honest recommendation is sign the check take the risk there's there's almost no real risk involved here because worst case scenario we're fine then the mid year we just we resolved the issue so and I think you're going to get a better budget that's why I don't like giving this to you now because I think when I can actually look at some of the
142expenditure see leing it's not going to be a it's going to be a lower risk you're going to get better support and you're going to get raises you're get insurance improvements [Music] steps you can decide what that's worth I'm telling you and if they cut us a million dollars [Music] I'm [Music] milon for big do and that is a compliment to the business office to because over the last years found where we were over budgeting under spend I am singularly focused on increasing the fut pay and um special service providers pay perhaps po or the track but I with Aon I recognize the risk everyone around us students that's 12 teachers at I recognize that to go budgeting for this fund but number people are coming inti people are coming students want to explain how
143we can do this as the Supreme Court understand how she's doing this she did this because that's what's happen me financially it's five years in business office and it thank you David any District updates District updates nobody's GNA P back we're not even voting on it tonight well you good there I was like come on you give a little Jody which one are you oh I was wondering if you were Ruth Bader gimberg in the story or Evin [Laughter] M yes well so I'm not against uh increasing Bas pay so much now but I still I wonder about the premise of the argument that it needs to be at 50,000 that's a it seems arbitrarily round number uh I think what I would feel better more more gooder about is knowing what what the what
144the line has been or if we're going to compare ourselves to other districts how fast have other districts increased their rate versus ours and uh those are the things that like is a and also I think it's unfair that as part of this premise we are comparing ourselves with other districts and and we are hearing about other districts that have 30 or 40% more kids in their class and kids in the class is a direct influence of what uh we get to pay the teachers for so if we're going to have a direct comparison with finances we need to have a direct compar with how many kids they have in class and how many days they work and I don't know the apparently the value of being a Salida I know our housing is helpful
145for everybody but uh the other parts of cida that are immeasurable we can't apply I guess but the other two things we can does that sound fair that we get to be judged on our base pay but we do not get to uh judge them on how many kids they have in their class for another no I think there to me Ben Fair points um number of days in the contracts do see a community value and District value for class size a data Leed to earlier talking Aras and things you want more pay or do you want some I know that's not an easy answer to give both especially when both but I agree with you continuing to put money into base pay is important to me but I also think there's different other things
146that you should be after measuring that means this is somewhat but maybe that means our class size is going maybe we don't have that additional this addition or maybe your contract but those are the kind of Contin put money into base pay is important for us to consider support performance and then addition performance are we get it's hard it's great to have some compar data but it's it's multivar analysis that has to be done and that's why a lot of times we'll go down because that's that strips all that out obviously if you account there people don't like that [Music] ex siid dist David can I also that would be fine but I I do want to share I wanted to respond really quick because I actually think you're right I think that you should
147be comparing it to a multifaceted set so I don't think it should be not days or not class size but we're comparing it just to people count I think we should try to do the best we can so like when you look at the slide on Alamosa we're right with them at starting pay we're six $100 behind per step but they also have a condensed step so how do you even compare it I I think what you have to do is you have to take as much information as you can distill it and then say what's the best that we can do regardless and what can we get for it I agree with that statement um I think that the reason base pay is so important is because it's the one area that we consistently
148are it seem to be lacking on um the really quick too just before you go here the the teacher uh R pupil ratio is inaccurate this is off the CDE website and me and Jim dug into it a little bit the other day and there there's an inaccuracy here that I don't know how to explain um but there's a if you look at their FTE and then their student count and then you look at their teacher ratio and the sheet will show the exact same district with different FTE when they're showing their student count ratio so there's something inaccurate there on the CDE page on that data but that we're looking into that deeply because that's a that is actually a key piece for me is what are our supports and how many kids do
149we have because that's how we get paid so I actually agree with you on that um point but I think that we're trying to find how do we do the best that we can and Jen to your point about base pay it can definitely get changed I think likely most people at CBT are going to say base pay makes a lot of sense because everybody gets it if you put 2500 in base pay everybody gets 2500 so Equity wise I think a lot of people are going to say at least the majority of that money should go to base pay there is an argument that okay what if we put, 1500 into base pay and we put this extra, worth into steps and made steps $200 more and that would put us above Alamosa for
150example at our base pay but also increase to where after you've been here for 16 17 years we're closer to them at that point as well because if we just put 2500 in the base pay we're just going to get $2,500 closer but you'll actually see that they grow more substantially as they go um so there's an argument to be made there I I think my it's easy to do the base pay it affects everybody so that's where but if they want me to run numbers and look at the salary schedule and adjust it to try to get our averages up but not overspend I'm happy to do that um so there's a way that they could look at that and try to do both but I think the interest that we shared at CBT
151was base pays our number one priority because it's the thing that we're most often compared to and it's the thing that everybody body gets and is pretty Equitable um but they might argue that some of the tene people don't it's not as Equitable because they get a lower percentage raise and things like that so there is that potential although they also all get steps but I think I think there's a high likelihood that most of them would want to put the majority of that money into the base but I don't want to speak for I just think that that's where it'll probably Happ yeah I just struggle with B Bas is the issue we don't want to invest B and nobody's actually said that the question is it theoretically possible yes I can't speak head
152of CBT make sure space for them to enter into the wayer into it yeah we got to start a budget with how much money can we invest this is a simple way to do it there reason 2500 you got to find goals like 50,000 is arbitrated yep made it I can communicate it I can dream with it and I can say Aaron Tom me how you get there you can go well I can get you 495 okay well now I can start to figure that out like it's so it's that piece it's arbitr here's another thing though if you put 2500 in the base for these districts and look at it from a perd at the bachelor's level it puts you on top at the Master's level it puts you on top so do I
153need 3,000 more no I need 40 2500 puts me on on top I think also though when you're talking about comparison if you're a new teacher and you're looking to move you have to look at price of what you know your cost of living so to rent here to buy a house here so we have to have that higher base pay because you have to live here so yeah Alamosa We compare with but it's way cheaper to live in Alamosa than in Salida so so this has got ASP yep and another interesting comparison I can't see it what's asking uh it's the back this is the summi of sheet there's thousands of cells behind this St yeah and you you make a really good point though because in the comparison of Alamosa just as a
154really good example I think it's I have to look back at my slides I think it's 24 million um that Alamos is getting in funding um is that correct yeah 24 million um four million of that's coming from this from local Revenue everything else is coming from the state share so for context they're getting double the amount for their pupil funding and we're triple taxing basically our local people because our property value is so high so to that point comparing ourselves to Alamosa that 43,000 goes substantially further in alosa than it does in um now that 43,000 also goes substantially less here or less in Aspen than it does here and Aspen we're not that far off from Aspen at that point so that's where the comparison is how do we make there is no
155perfect comparison and any number you want me to run I can run and look it up figure it out any number Any teacher wants me to any classified staff please send it to my office I'm happy to run it for you um we have to find a starting point though and to David's point we have to find a budget like where are we starting with the budget how much money can I even taken to CBT and say I'm comfortable doing this the reason that I'm putting it on this sheet which you've negotiated a different times in the past is because I think you need to have say on how much money I can tell them that they have to play with um and so because we're negotiating in the spring instead of negotiating in the
156fall in the past where we've already built a budget and we're looking at the amending budget and so on and so for so we're trying to play a bit of a guessing game here for sure and trying to take money into it but I need to have an idea of what you're comfortable with if you're saying I'm not comfortable with this at all then I can't take that money into yeah I think that get to 50,000 this year say Insurance well so that's another point right there's a if you cut the insurance premium so if you take away and again this is my big argument locally if we can get people to shop more responsibly with their insurance if we didn't have an 8% 177% and then 22 which now it's going to be 14
157if you take the recommendation on the plate there's $600,000 over three years you could be at 50,000 next year with $2,500 if we just fix the insurance problem and so that's why we're pushing so hard on the insurance problem is because if we can fix that then that's money that you can put into salaries whether it's teacher salar are all salaries but it's it all works together it all plays together but we could have been there by now now I'm not saying that that's anyone's fault like but that's the reality that's how much money it is that we put into that program um and that's why we have to fix it that's why we have to come up with a new solution that that puts ownership on on more of our staff because if we
158all buy into it we all take ownership of it we can put that money in salaries so that was the district report done things are going great moving forward things are going great our house is in order I'm really proud hiring is ahead of schedule it's intense for people when they have gaps that else we have more applicants than we have seen in five seven years at all positions um so there is a change in the workforce um principles are having very hard conversations as you would um expect them to they're doing their jobs in those HR spaces um which is connected to the hiring and all the evaluation digging deep in the paric site as we're seeing now a conversation around pedagogy curriculum instruction taking C stage that's a great District to work for
159and you can get to that space I'm pretty D excited in launch um two or three months ahead of where I hope to there's M done with campus District moving on to consent agenda looking for a motion to approve the consent agenda there a lot there because of the iBook thank you uh just de clear the iBook there's a chunk that we won't see again because it's in review and approved but the other ones that need a little bit more love are in first reading so we can dive into more details in future months plan is I be on first second third and J start first the second third so all of it will be done by the end of this my plan yeah so in the fall that's what Caren and I talked about
160it's one of the set of policies resources this conversation i' like to settle this and empower the staff figure out what the right inputs and policies are make sure everybody is on the same page we do that in the fall think we all fit together that's my recommendation Cent policies do not violate each other they don't violate anyone else there's no reason not to hold them those there a few there's one or two others that can and identify like okay for today but maybe the fall bring those up as a bu conversation homework would be an example allor policies in there but it's just drop in solve a month mindur you can solve it but that would be a great for the board to S an academic Council and say hey send us a red
161line we want to see what you got and to have that class pedag conversation around how does practice work fit into our philosophy teaching that can be an awesome conversation value it can fit great in and might so much fun today though appreciate Ken having experience class to those policies ready for vote all right Dr bre Rich pet hi Dr Hill hi Mr HW hi lber M and Mr SM okay discussion items anybody need anything more on cida high school building leadership team presentation much better Nar goad I do but I'll okay I just want to let you know the staff's are important that you heard there um their perception know You' heard other their perceptions they wanted you to hear their perception uh 5B s hand continue too beautiful uh discussion item 4C sales
162contract for County Land we do have a little bit of a late addition here well six years ago um you taking this let me uh why don't you frame it up and I'll fill in details okay no I don't and this one wouldn't be I don't this isn't something we should you want to pass this is a sales contract okay so big picture framework um you know really nothing has changed from the conversation that we had I don't know how long ago um but after seeing that we weren't getting much movement at the middle the latter part of last year David Karen and I kind of just said on Count's working their way through um land and use code they have the election and the Commissioners coming I believe somewhere in there they also let
163go of or lost their attorney um a few things like that so basically we kind of just put a pause on those conversations um we brought those conversations back to them in the last 30 days um to say Hey you know we're still ready to move forward um thinking that we'd like to kind of continue down the path we were however we do have a few other options um I'll say it was a misunderstanding and that's being BL of the narrative we got back from the county not thinking that we were wanting to proceed for some different reason um but we have worked to clear the air uh personally I've spoken to both commissioner wood and commissioner Armstrong both reiterated their desire to get this deal done um and be able to move forward with
164it um didn't really have much of an explanation other than hey let's just keep moving forward sorry appreciate the the grace and the time frame things of that nature um I think the only main difference in the conversation that we had had um seemed to be challenging over conversation and possibly financially not appropriate for us to consider a long-term kind of financing structure with the county just gets messy with municipality and the school district and everything else um as ER said and looking at different things in financials we probably have have more than sufficient cash on hand to be kind of take care of the purchase outright um so that's kind of the new proposal to take care of that work through with them to kind of come back and say hey here's the 10
165acres here's the price per acre based on our IG um and then conceptually where does this go how do we make this work and ements and access and our legal team Chris Ed has been working on this for a while she's well suited to take care of that for us but um just kind of felt like the amount of Mone we've saved whether through interest or the impact fees or things of that nature which would be paying for something like because anyway makes a lot more sense to just use those funds now and then rebuild that fund versus kind of paying for it over a long term things of that nature same price so I recall wanting to charge interest if we were going to Finance it that was what one of staff's suggestions were
166commission so that was the piece that we came this is getting a little bit too large us so so that would take care of that SP cash yeah so um still the same kind of Area Property um recently B of town of pona has acquired their 30 acres really nearby um SE line extension agreement come into place like the developers are working the developer to an adjacent piece wants to have a conversation with us um is there any talk about a wck district there that's t a bunch is in planning they've got to go in a planning conversation to discuss that and we sit with the planners they're very clear their only structure that they SC for is elaborative um structure so for us how can they and the school district work together to develop
167facilities the recreational and educational how do two teams come together leverage taxpayer dollar so it's the only they're trying to flush out ideas like that so the town of Poncha is kind of taking lead on the on the rec district pce work County I would say that the town of pona is taking their own W District ideas forward with kind of that 30 acre parti of the enire and also I know they recently good Economic Development kind of study so they're doing a whole bunch of stuff to try to know get more stuff more so I don't think there any there's no collaboration necessarily with the county they do have interest in collaborating with us for field space for space things of that nature but it's a long for this time I've not had any
168person speak to me use the term around a recreation District that's not been something they articulate that they interest in well I mean the county needs to approve any sort of special district so I have a hard time envisioning P do that without a significant tax to their citizens and there was the IG calls for as the guidance um so is that a recommendation or is it a rule you know depending who's on which side of that conversation you're going to see that differently 20 acres comes from your department of education's planning committee so that's your rough space when you have a middle school so that would be preschool through 8 is the rough in plan put out there so 20 acres uh the county came back through the staff and said 10 acres and
169may be an option to buy another 10 so the contract we put back to them is okay 10 acres at the IGA price like an option to buy the other six to 10 acres we're looking at their 76 acre lot we're looking these closer to where the houses would be so that the stuff just north of the um Fairgrounds would be more adjacent to the property lines bring that over and there's a little house in 4 Acres there so it's 10 to 6 AC is how we wrote the contract to say I don't know that I would encourage us to spend all the buy say 16 or 20 acres if we have 10 the option buy six 10 mil then I think everyone's in a good spot because then that would help our County think
170through that space so option to BU the county yeah so would be that sort of situation that's what an option to buy is if it comes on the option to buy then does the price compare to what that would sell for say they were be more yeah I I would say I know the town P just bought two acres for 250ish so I think we are getting a fair price but it's also well documented price Breakers but the conversation we had as when last time we talked publicly it was don't like uh that the county would charge us you expressed the desire that they should be giving that um that's part of intergovernmental work um but you all definitely said at that price it's not a it's not a bad deal for so that's why
171it's still reject same thing it's what the IG we all sign to calls out $47,000 an AC where is the um option don't know but I got it last night I don't know if it's in this or if it's a separate okay I believe she be a separate for that second partial is it in the right position I remember the first the diagram we look at it look like the second piece might be set not side by side it would be all talk about it deeper into negotiating and respond to your guys's offer so that we have some Joe can I say one other thing too because you you sent me an email you were just talking about the financing a bit ago and you sent me an email that I think is important for
172the old board quick update on on ha as well and why it relates to this but we borrowed 2.8 million for the haa remodel currently we're about 2.4 with all the change orders and Furniture Etc so there's also a bit of cash there that's still remaining from that uh from that loan that's available that's not in any of your um sheets that you've seen so far because there's still potential for change orders and things like that the only decent size change order we see coming is a change to the um wall out front here and I don't know the cost on that but there's going to be a substantial amount of cash substantial is a tough word but there's GNA be an amount of cash that's that you could also utilize this for that point
173so I know you asked about that just want to get on same page Quantified it yet but talk about there being a significant amount of money still uned on here yeah so there's multiple things not on here yet the the impact Fe yeah you you switch to the capital wish list big sheet and it's basically lines I believe it's like 11 12 13 is kind of what you're looking at there um so 11 is going to go up by a decent amount because that's basically where all the interest from fund 43 accounts goes so your Cafe interest that's fund 43 your High Country Bank fund 43 interest all of that goes into this assigned because it's assigned to capital projects but it's not assigned to any other categor so that's cash um and then impact
174fees which is currently at 145 that typically is about 50,000 a year we' brought in about 13 so far but typically we get two big checks because like Salida pays in like installments quarterly not remember the exact detail Brett was Brett was walking me through that the other day but he said usually the bulk of theirs comes late in the year um and that seemed true when I was looking at Ivy and then none of our interest has been recorded from our transfer and you're committing to transfer 75% of all of your interest um over the capital and none of that's in this figure it's substantially higher than that number so I think it'll end up around the 200 none of that's been put into this yet so this is going higher that and that
175cash will be available to you on the option I don't know if it's been negotiated yet or not but if we could get an option to buy at the same price that's much better than a right that as what okay did just say this is our idea government's all agre to this pricing because the write a first refusal we could have the developer flip side one of the key things that the staff has expressed as a right to Let's took land and then some billionaire said here's the extra 20 acres better spot keep that we don't need this where does that go they want to clear that come back to County so that resale ke that we hav any proper developed would go back the whenever the let say it's 20 years from now one
176none of us are here and they the IG whatever that number is the governments agree the values first but if they want to give it it back Hey Jo David yesst Cas scenario only get ACR that's all we get later we set up the next school Success we do what we need total of 16 what you're asking AC was the worst Acres the worst casar only had six acres and that's all you gave that school in the future it's going to be tight and they would be struggle with the field space um we put out we put the elementary school on six acres um so that gives you sense of that oh yeah but I preschool through eighth grade would be a very very big struggle and use up all the the whole entire block
177that long on for foundation roof line and I don't know how you do parking that would be whole another huge issue yeah and then Fields would have to be solved in a new way so that's why we're going to continue to say the IG has a reason why the F to bed says you need 20 acres for a 20 to be clear the purchase would be for 10 acres and the additional Acres that would be 6 so so would be well 10's the minimum 16 to 20 is the maximum there is adults and I think it also sets up our County and town of Pon you get a really nice developed space you work fairgounds you got like there's this beautiful design available fromon County School District players EST yeah I really I mean since
178I've moved here I've struggled with how we ex said this helps us and helps our community get that of place great overwheling majority of we can make it happen I was shocked in sort of looking at some light of recreation use our facilities little unaware baseball park and then what is the addition when we have like you know gym space for all the different things the back and forth we try and put a value on around $30,000 more an inter so uh this is a discussion because we don't have the final contract but just Mak awareness this is back STA and attorneys resol sooner than later but I was told okay uh actions can I just make sure everyone understands process s we're not that far off okay action items we don't have any second
179policy so we're going to move first into appr 2526 Capital wish list as recomended what so I'm gonna have little CH a bit on this too because him and Sean have worked a lot on this but um basically there's not a lot of changes from last month but I do want to highlight a couple changes because some of them came in as late as this afternoon just in terms of the price uh we asked for definitive quotes more definitive pricing and so this is the capital renewal wish list this is where in theory you could this all the way to budget but this allows Shawn by you approving this I'm going to put this in the budget which allows Shawn to then go out and structure the work throughout the summer which this one's more
180important than the operational because needs to start structuring that work um the only major changes and I went through the video line 18 this bedroom there's a a change in that amount originally two three years ago was 100 it went up to 164 part of that is design work that Sean doesn't feel is necessary but it's the current High quote we have and he wanted to get it to you want so we want to approve that but he believes that's going to come in lower just for context um and then he put He put other quotes in here as well that you that we tried to get to you um the one that changed literally today was the Ada playground equipment and this was a challenging one because the Excavating work and the pour in
181place which is the um rubber that you can get like a wheelchair on security flooring that safety thank you it's more complicated than than initially thought in terms of installation so we got the official quote um you'll see line 64 there's Ada playground equipment not being recommended currently for 60,000 Brant that is just the playground equipment what's being recommended to you is to do all of the work on the ground all of the poor in play safety um work on both properties both Lees and SMS because you get a discount by doing that and then putting in the equipment at SMS this summer I'm trying to then find the grant to cover the additional 60,000 to this other Ada you could certainly add line 64 up and pay for it but it came in significantly
182higher than last month to the tune of about $75,000 um and so that's why I tried to say hey I don't want to surprise this with a new number I want to try to find a solution to that if I can but in the meantime I want to get moving on the actual groundwork um if possible so that's the big number that changed everything else was in my video that literally just changed today I apologize for the last minute I know we were trying and rushing to get you exact numbers as best as we could will do you have anything to add to that with your conversation we did back off of the shade structure for the middle school for this this current year and we'll move it look at moving it to next year
183and I was 6 so can I say some bluntisham structure it hasn't snow since the last meeting and it's snowed maybe one time this year that may have needed clearing we'll say yeah it's been a while like besides the fact that I I I can appreciate a bigger shade structure and more space maybe the existing one's not sufficient size I there Solutions like anchor points we looked at and somebody gone with a Brom well we looked at even adding it I think there's four poles we looked at add the fifth pole in the middle keep it that's the the latest greatest thought is to add a fifth po you'd have to do a different tar but that's inexpensive so that you could keep your current four Co system and not spend 50 Grand on a
184whole new Foundation and shade and structure similar to the one at Lees so that's kind of where that's why this got moved down because probably other work at the middle school but that was maybe not quite a priority and there's some other options to I I don't know the support strength of the fabric but we'll get one spring sign just seems Seems like something that we can manage without a new structure right now and still provid shade structure I think it's up but it hasn't smelled since last time you agree I that's our recommendation to so I spoke to Corey about this today um I called in as soon as I got the the number and said how are you comfortable with me holding this down knowing that I may not find a grant we
185may come to you on the amended budget and I mean I we could come to you as early as September October if we have the money and say we we would like to add this cap project I've done that before um I I don't want to give you an answer that it's pretty likely I I don't know is the answer so I would probably say I'm because I don't know so I don't really have a great lead yet um yeah but yeah and so I don't I wouldn't count on it yet but I did talk to Cory and he he when I told him the number that it had gone up I said what about the idea of just putting in the the four in place right now and then doing that he said he
186said look from my opinion obviously would love to have the equipment however we already do have a more excessive playground than the Middle School the Middle School needs to be a priority um I do know the LPA there is interested in supporting where they can as well so it's not just grant money there's a part of me that goes how can we get maybe multiple partners to buy into this um because it kind of got plugged in because we were so interested in doing it those school kids who had nowhere to go on that playground it sounds like he thought there were some places where they currently could go would like to see it but he's comfortable I want to go down we have a lot of really good that that needed so I if
187that's something want conversation with with some of those fol okay any other um I guess our combined total of plus or minus 55,000 for C cin see what you're saying what do you what do we want to do with that money the I think the initial idea was that would just roll into the Oak Street account since all of those would be there at that point um and so that yeah so he's talking about line six and seven um would roll into basically line eight since they're all kind of support box 32 yes the the auditorium is intentionally you've saved this amount of money for it so that's we felt like this is why you're saving it's only a little bit each year but this is why you're doing it um the new bus you've
188been saving for you already approved it as was for the only one that would be a question mark there Joe is secc we are still keeping that there because that is one Mandy depending on how it holds I think there's real potential be grand we just got a grand for basically the exact same amount and this quote is very similar to so I think there's real potential for that um it would be ly 31 the entry way on the best and they what they did is credit again to Will and Sean and and um the team at DSi they came in and they the old plan was to kind of remake the inside and now they're basically going to build a freestanding structure that attaches to the building that would oper well but it sa
189us yeah I think it's a good design it's probably better design for so but if we don't get it gr that's going to come out the budget or just that's your it seemed like the mat modular improvements that this is an actual these are hard quotes that we got the past week um the only change is that actually that the improvements heating for Tolen he got in just today and they were about 13,000 time two so it's actually a little lower than that 30,000 by the time I got it it was it was too late it was close enough that I didn't feel it was necessary to change but that's to to redo all of that any other questions comments a we're ready for a vote all right Dr bre hi Dr Hill Mr Hobs
190lber okay fun looking for a motion to approve new District curriculum teacher on special assignment thetion for a we got a motion in a second now you Jody you want to open the floor here hear all teach I hear what they're saying it gets situation so that's and I know there's but I SP a lot of to of j a lot of en so so resp another so I guess conc yeah I did don't and those are those did you say not following comments questions not following policies that was a little bit pre we following by going through everything um and I'm going to take three examp or two examples so I just finished up Monday sitting down with the brick committee around 35 Next Generation systems discon in the middle of promise and we
191users so all of those staff each staff sat down went through all those curriculums studied all them wents El digital setting up all those things so we went through that poliy that time what we haven't gone through is every seven years you're supposed to that's pic or not and until everything is established we resources fin approval resources so I just want to know we're not following seven cycle there's that the same thing all whole process so those are some examples we are and we're not F science trying to to get back pic science state standard all that have SCH you a lot of differ just give you policy rest of I yeah um my take on this position has been I've been before I go there can you help me know it's not for next
192to be the department lead facilities have committees aside in the summer off contract Frid systems funding getting more resources in try trainers in experts in particular subject area scheduling all those things and trying to do that stuff get the input of teers so the department heads is basically formalize what that policy suggesting this is off contract time people interest will this to dive deeper say the ly so you need is that still need that anything else you got to be able to sit first grade rep second grade rep thir poliy resources do that set up five teachers 10 team litery secondary yearly math math one teacher per grade level have or four times that's all question no I think so I my question both all the department if uh I think somebody said that about
19360% of the teachers I don't know if that was at one school or in the district are non-traditionally trained like making their own lesson plans I don't know right Letting Go the teacher School 60% of the high school so would we have a hard time having a a toast of person trying to influence what they do that's uh one of the questions um I just wonder if we were to hire somebody on like a business evaluation like having ways to measure their success what would those ways be in this first year that's why I support and if can we do that and if they don't then we hire them that's what you're trying to ask the level of accountability that's why this is the first time I've said Okay I can this versus a coach
194scenario where there's not enough understanding of what that would be because if that's a keep account if that's a realistic expectation that they could agree on when they were hired then I what I wouldn't want is a bunch of dancing around of like well you know we really had a hard time with this department or this school or this group of people and I don't want to hear that we had a hard time if we commit to something that's supposed to make all the students better and everybody's very inspirational about our district being well above and beyond and I would like that too but I don't want to hire somebody and then get that person stuck in a situation that's un I think that structure be different in this case is when you say a
195team stuck that's when assist BR that's the asking the teacher in special assignment to be somebody's B somebody not the same yeah who writes curriculum because I can't believe everybody's going to agree I like the idea of it being collaborative but I can't believe yet they do all the time they proba State Standards they're not just creating stuff so then I would shift the conversation or we set out this year as a strategic goal is to devel [Music] teachers Master Teachers teach believe answering that inial reaction strling to said first first year so not so um which is what are the change in thetive um but I was my initial not 100% I'm not 100% sure if this is a Sy um I wouldn't necessarily say my position changed as much as com staff St
196a little bit more special but I definitely person different typ acad apprciate they want to now kind of take that in there this will allow assist something build to me chopped staff yes it's promoting development leadership and all that's kind of where I'm at to pretty simple for me one is I'm not an educator so I I tend to look at a very very big picture this is an area have any exp in terms of curriculum development teaching and everything else and it seems to me the folks that we've designated [Music] to everyone recommending this but I've heard consistently since I've been on Bo is the one coaching and that kind um so that's number one you know sort of taking a broader picture and letting you know trusting Dr Blackburn number two is we
197it's not it's not it's not going to break it's clearly something that the staff wants be seen very positively if we proove it and I I'm a little bit concerned I think we'll get past it and I do think we'll be a little there you know again to me we've already spent too much it's $100,000 and we' spent hours and hours and hours talking about it it's it's an important piece from a school development and curc perspective clearly see the need for that overarching cohes school certain certainly at the high school you have 60% of your of un Educators need needs to come from somebody outside of this ass super going back and talk to be AER for think for is there no for compromise or Plan B like could it be just for the
198high school like first year or something to where because I don't see a lot of success she's running to three different schools all day long trying to jle everything when it sounds like the focus start from the high school maybe and the elementary school doesn't read it so much I I just see it being so thin this is how conc step would uh Jody patiently with is that extraordinary resources ands every teacher res B assessment cment so also learn EXP something like is a remote online not not stand amaz teachers I want to clarify the train also so I need toose so first EX soac like we have curriculum these the words actual teachers tonight and as jenus any other closing remarks okay ready for a vote tired um not forever but name for now
199was first four three good job okay looking for motion um looking for a motion to approve Department feeds any further discussion needed on this one hour this will be off contract time uh it wouldn't be until you'd look at Fridays for next year because I don't know the assistant Su there's no way to get that in place right no there's no way to do it this summer unless it's a oneoff thing uh I don't know that you would mean them to me that that was they were trying to think through what are the what are the curricular areas this was your so that would be the answer to that question of does the need to meet no probably not maybe one time check in look at it and that's going to be your counselors and
200that team probably so be there that one's a good example of I don't think them me that Tech next year is not going to get it done before for our meetings tech for example is going to be a lot of yeah so it's like chrisme would be somebody um you would have Randy Kush be probably the person um but that that's a curricular area where that's going to take more of that year so it's a how do you build a budget out of nowhere there's the logic for the budget to spend the money on those teachers who are volunteering to really try to leave their teams so there's a total of how many people five times 10 50 so there's 50 it's 50 for 16 hours of work is if you're doing that basic structure
201that's how the budget number was created that's that's a May hour budget b you're playing it in an hourly rate is there some kind of outline expect F just kind like yes that's what the assistant superintendent would have to set up and then publish and into I'm trying to build a budget so that I can have a structure that person so it's not just simply expectation but supports and the necessary pieces for them to accomplish and are we approving the roles or the dollar amount to allocate to the dollar amount I just like I'm not going to pick up a dime in front of a bulldozer but I just want to make sure that we don't come back saying no I need five more because we found two more other areas and more people no
202but Aaron on my gu do is he create a% the budget that's this and work to stand under $35,000 jump in I was gonna say I mean the other piece this year we budgeted and this is again goes into like this year we budgeted um since people can't earn time off we've budgeted more class coverage and things like that at $35 an hour and we're not going to hit what we budgeted this year so we're going to decrease it will this will be basically the same thing like it yeah that's how we'll budget it is those extra hours so I'll I'll go in and adjust it next year now that we know okay since the PTO policy is working the way you wanted it to and we're get seeing less people gone decreasing our sub
203budget decreasing our or increasing this budget we can doig why Tom tonight is if you said yes one he can put the Assumption in the budget I can then start to figure out the communication structure of how we start to talk to teachers so before we leave we identifying who those teacher leaders are leading them into a place for their empowered to shape the system the way they believe it needs to be shaped this is not a I'm going to tell the staff how to accomplish the task this is ensuring we have enough money set aside to empower the staff to solve the problem and I'd heard very clearly for the first time in a long time staff was ready to take that's I believe there's Readiness and I want to be right there at
204that point CH any questions comments hey this is Jody hey Jody I am fired up Department I'm a little suspect foral specials in Tech because we kind of one loop on Tech special there's kind a lot of overlapping social emotional learning is an advisory and with SOA are you fired up also hear the written report to read the written reports next time probably May of next year right in two months so 14 months and with the simar very good ready for a vote Dr hi hi Dr Hill hi Mr Mrs lber hi Mrs mman and Mr hi uh she's a dinner uh looking for a motion to approve Insurance REM renewal as recommended by Insurance committee thank you second thank you uh we discussed this uh obviously earlier when we were talking about the um
205Aaron or David anybody have anything in the public meeting that you would like to say or more public meeting no I think cover it well anything Will's been working really over y go it's been talked about like we' sou even there quite there's actually good plan working with committee working with CB working with americ Fidelity um and Aaron and I to go meet at each of the buildings with all the staff at least once before seeing EBT comes out to answer final questions before American Fidelity comes out to address some of those supplementary because they're they're the ones that would that would run the uh Flex the health savings account people are going to need to know what policy what program they want so that they know what supplementary things to to look into I
206I would just add to to your question totally Will's been setting up a ton of stuff to make sure staff is g to be really well informed um so thank you because that's going to be huge and we've got a really good plan in place to make sure they're informed but I would say that's the only official group that was put together but each one of them said multiple times like I got to go talk to people because this is a like I don't want to gloss over the fact that this was a hard decision for them to make you know they have to recommend to a product that they feel like like we said even though I think it has potential long term to be a better product you put more money to staff
207if it if it works it's a change and in some ways it's GNA be viewed as a hard change and so a lot of them felt like we're making a recommendation that again you can view however you want to but to some of them felt like this is a really difficult thing so they talked to their constituents and also so we met with the association leadership and discussed it just let them know what the recommendation was so there's there are people who have been for for sure I I imagine for the x% of folks that don't necessarily use their insurance they appreciate this in next number of years if they put money away for catastrophic event or retirement or whatever else it's be a change and maybe tough for some but I think it's a
208good change over I'd like to understand better that when one person makes a choice that they they like this new plan I understand that if a person makes a choice that they don't like it our outlay is going to be the same as the person that does go with this plan correct so if they choose the other plan our cost is going to be the same yes like we're we're covering the lower cost plan if somebody says I want to go with the old boo plan they're Cho we're still covering that same amount and then they will pay the extra amount and then how about longer term with the insurance company if we still keep having expensive claims that uh because they're going locally or you know whatever reasons they're having more expensive claims is
209the insurance going company going to continue to get us a better value that's kind of what we started looking at Dr Hill when we shopped around with other companies um and we've got actually the fourth company that we talked at talked to Aaron men has a little different program set up for the future that we couldn't get into all the details with them in the time that we had but that's something that we're going to look at in the future if that answered your question or not um part of it is educating staff on why our costs go up and how to keep the cost down and then with the with the Brokers and what options do we have to keep the costs from going up that address your question or not just recognizing that
210there is a variable and we don't know what it's going to be next yeara correct absolutely yeah and I think because part of the increase always has been inflation but the problem is actually CBT the trust has had people in the category where they've actually decreased the percentage that they like they've decreased their premiums or they've been close to Flat um because US based on usage because the trust we're incorporating the trust the problem is we've been at the highest category three straight years in the trust right um and so there's two ways to look at that yet yes I think that there's still potential that we're going to see an increase but I think right now if our usage is 170% of our premiums and we just took on a 222% increase and said
211we're going to do everything else the same when you look at our claims it's not like we have a substantial amount of high high claims we've got pretty standard claims that we would expect almost every year so um I looked at that from a numbers perspective and said so we're already starting at a 48% usage problem just by increasing that so we're gonna be the highest Mar of trust in next year um so I I mean I would assume we're probably see some type of increase at some point but hopefully we can get it down to a point and we don't see as much inflation Insurance in general we can we can cut the rates a little bit but I don't see that being the number one most likely outcome but I see us having
212a much lower increase if we can get if we can get out of control our usage um as I said it's open on this boort I don't always know the fact that we differentiate dollars versus percentages and whatnot ready for a vote ready for a vote Dr re it oh sorry sorry I just have three public first Aon I did not join the school board to talk about public insurance but you're handholding during your video taught me and I understand what you're doing thank you secondly when um will great shopping great Innovation and then the committee the distri committee which is our staff this is such a complex problem for Rural districts and you guys have to make tough choices so thank you for what you have and let's give it a shot and see
213if it works out ready for a vote I think we legit lost she hung up instead of muted we're gonna just she like I'm done we'll call because right it's four hours now isn't it she's okay are you there Jody I thought on are you there are you there I don't think you're on the speaker but uh let's get your vote and then I think if you want to leave we got all of your accolades yes hi hi all right Dr Hill hi Mr Hobs Mrs Lumber hi Mrs F hi M shman and Mr hi um assume nobody has any updates on any other committee reports worth sharing beautiful who wants the agenda review Jen will Jen and I will send out an email ex you guys that's a good lead in looking for a
214motion to adjourn thank you Mandy [Music]