001I'd like to call this workshop to order. The time is 12 noon. I wish to welcome you to the superintendent's workshop being held in the Joe and Idelled Jr. TEC. I ask that out of respect to everyone, please silence all electronic devices. Also, if you have any material you wish to share with any board member, please give that to Sarah over here. Um, we will be taking a break every two hours. Um, if needed before that, before I turn it over to you, superintendent, just a quick legislative update. Um, I believe tomorrow is the deadline for filing bills. There have been fast and furious bills being pushed in the last couple of days. It's hard to keep up with. Uh, I have an email that I'm forwarding to all of you. I'm going to send
002it to Sarah and ask her to forward it to all of you with some of the ones that are interesting. Um, that does not include all of them. this the tomorrow is at 10:00 a.m. is the opening day of legislature and so that's typically when you hear the speeches from the speaker um from the pres president of the senate and from the governor um I I've heard through the grape vine that will be very interesting to watch um appropriations committee on prek through 12 education which is an important one because that sets some budget um issues for us that will be taking place on the 14th from at 11:30 you can watch all those on the Florida channel so there are several bills that have been filed Like I said, um very interesting ones that
003have come forward immediately. There are some schools of hope ones um to revoke them, but those aren't u reforms. So, that's kind of what we were looking for is maybe a reform type bill. So, we'll see if anything gets filed in the next 24 hours. Uh recess requirements for middle schools. Interesting. >> I do believe we have PE and other things. Plus, we ban now and there's a requirement or ban gives you some PE requirements. So, that's interesting. Cursive writing. Um, some uh all kinds of different things that are that are all over the place. So, I will send you that list kind of of things that I've been kind of tracking. There are some other ones that I didn't put on this list. For example, little things like IEP. Um, everybody has to have
004all the IEP requirements, you know, aligned with title. And I think we already do that. So there are a couple other things that were like uh little tweaks or things that we're already doing that I didn't really put it on there. But another interesting one is observance of Veterans Day as a holiday. And that hasn't been out there. And I know we've gone back and forth about that here with our schedule next year. It's not going to really affect us, thank goodness, because of the way that the calendar looks. But I think in the in the um in the long run, that will be interesting to see if that goes through and and that kind of sets things for us. We don't have to worry about it. Um, okay. So, at this time, I'd like
005to turn it over to the superintendent for the purpose of this workshop. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. The purpose of this workshop is to present items for feedback uh to the board that will ultimately come for approval. We're going to shift the agenda around just a little bit based on individuals schedules and commitments. So, I would like to do item 3E first, which is the review of Sebastian Charter Junior High School contract renewal by Miss Bura to lead us off. Good afternoon through the chair and thank you to my colleagues for allowing me to uh move up on the agenda. Um I am pleased to bring to you the Sebastian Charter Junior High High School's contract renewal um as briefed in individual board briefings. This is a process that takes place at every 15 years
006if that's the term of the contract and every department in our district reviews their contract, gives feedback, provides suggestions and updates. Um we're very pleased with the process that we went through. We used the state contract template and uh in every situation on this in every set of uh criteria Sebastian Charter Junior High School meets meets the standard. Any questions? >> Thank you. >> All right. Second item I'm I'm just going to quickly do schools of hope or present that item. Schools of hope is I put >> Excuse me. Uh, Madame Chair, uh, point of order or whatever you want to say. Uh, can we make a public statement about board docks being down for the public um, not having access? You, you or the, um, superintendent, whomever? >> Yeah, Bruce, are you working on
007that right now? >> That's what I thought. They're working on it. If you get >> No, but we still have people watching and needing access or not understanding why. So, if we can just make a public statement that or I just did. So board docs is down temporarily down and we are trying to uh troubleshoot the issues there. So if any um citizens are watching and cannot access the agenda or any of the um backup information it be patient with us as we move forward. >> Again we don't know if it's down for just the district employees or if it's down overall into that. We we >> just in case >> it's down for us. Uh and we will provide an update. On that same note, um Mr. Heiser just told us the the some
008of our cameras are not working on here and which allows us to shift from person to person, which is a requirement within our policy. Uh so we are in the midst of Oh, here comes the here comes the Calvary. >> Welcome to 2026. >> Yeah, here comes the calvary. So we'll get that adjusted and get a line of policy as soon as the technology allows us to do so. All right. um schools of hope item J just prior to the break and I thought this was a good practice and and meeting with the chair that we continue to put schools of hope on the agenda whether it's a brief conversation or a long conversation because the potential impacts to our community and ultimately the state of Florida. So there have been as Baronborg was saying
009a number of items submitted through the legislative process to shift or change tweak the schools of hope legislation. uh in conversations that I have, I I am relatively confident that we're going to see some shifts and changes uh specifically that would allow Indian River County to be in a safe space. I think Amy uh our schoolboard attorney can add a little bit more depth to that piece of the conversation on a very specific local level to us just prior to the break. Uh we did hear a response from Matter Academy uh thanking us for the information which we sent to them and they asked uh for additional conversation at my um convenience as we enter into the the new year. At this point there's been no additional conversation or engagement from matter or myself. Um
010so we will continue to monitor what's going on in Tallahassee and respond accordingly. Um but right now there's no immediate action on on my behalf. Amy, would you like to add some >> Sure. On um through the chair. Um on Friday, the DOE published a um a notice of hearing or a notice of rule development and uh they're going to be holding a workshop on the 26 if they get a request to do so on the schools of hope. So, I submitted a request to do so, not on behalf of Indian River because I didn't want to run that by you, but just on behalf of myself um and just under the purview that we want to see what's going on. So, I thought it was kind of weird that they and that might be
011something normal, but they published the notice of rule development if someone asked for it. So, I a couple of us have asked for it. >> Yeah. And I'm going to make a comment on that because FSBA has also put out a call um for board members to do that. And so I forwarded that email to um Dorian, asked her to forward it to all of you. And um we're thinking that it needs to be done ASAP in the next three to five days, maybe tomorrow. Um because it's the rule making or the decision to um file a bill is by tomorrow. However, leadership can always add something to it. And it it's interesting that the DOE is saying this for a rule making. Um it's very questionable as to what that means, but I think
012um they want to hear if people across the state are really interested in this or not. And they don't want to hear from just board members. They want to hear from the community members. So the more we can get it out there to people to make sure that they contact them and let them know that yes, this does need to be tweaked, it does need to be changed, we do need a rule >> and it's scheduled for the 26 at 10:00 a.m. tenatively. So, >> well, we're asking also for it to go to all legislators. >> So, that's what it is. >> That email go out yet? >> The one that I'm foring? Um, I don't know because Dorian's not here, so I'll have to send it to Sarah. >> Yes. Um, thank you very
013much for that update and Miss Baronborg for the um all the updates on legislation. Um, I have spoken to our representative and senator, sent emails, um, spoken at the legislative delegation. I just think this is something we have to continue to challenge, if you will. I received from FSBA the um, Duvall County and what they have responded to. And it was very, very, very good information, uh, the proposals and all their concerns. And I think when you look at everything with the FTE going to that um organization and not to the schools even though they're in our schools, the one that still causes me the most concern is giving out our fish report. I mean, we're responsible for the safety of our students. And that fish report, if you ever looked at any of our
014schools, it gives you the ins and outs of everything. And the other thing, and I know I talked with Mr. Green about this, and this went out to all board members um in March, I think it was Mr. Dyer who requested this. When you look at our capital millage, we've gone from 2.0 to 1.5 mil. And over I think that was 2008 or 2009, it's cost about $150 million. Our community needs to understand they pay for these buildings. This is our community property tax. So when we're having other people come into our schools, use our classrooms without any pay, we should all have a concern about that. So, I just encourage and I've been doing emails and so forth for people to understand that it's just not right. And hopefully hopefully there'll be some tweaks
015um because we don't have a low performing school. And I know the opportunity zone is pretty wide out there as far how you would really define it, but it's kind of the catchall they can get if we don't have a low performing school. So, I say we keep put up, keep going with the good fight because I think it might make a difference. >> So, I'm going to add one more thing to that. Two of the bills that are on that um email that it was forwarded is being forwarded to you. Um talk about basically the fish report and how that needs to be given to the groups that ask for it. So, it's interesting how um we are obviously communicating our concern about safety. It's get it's getting to legislators, but then they're turning
016around saying, "No, you need to do it anyway." So, those are just two of the bills that have been presented. It's interesting. Look at them. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. >> On um just an update, Neiola's site is down. So, it's just not us specifically. It's across the >> If it is up, they said it'll go very slow and you might kick it off, but it is coming and going. So, just in order to honor everyone's time, Miss Miss Barborg, I'd like to know if we can do the board discussion items and then revert back to my agenda with those. >> Sure. My computer's being updated right now, so I can't access that, but I will. And and one of the things I needed to see was in my email. So, um yeah, we'll go
017to that. So, artificial intelligence, which are the two emails that I'm waiting on, um the task force for Florida has been working. I know you are a member of the task force and I believe they're meeting today 3:00 >> 3:30 >> Orlando and so um I know the superintendent's on that task force and they're looking at uh guiding principles for school districts to um move forward and and AI policies and things like that. So I attended U Florida Schoolboard Association the final day they had an expert on AI come in and talk to us and you know he mentioned a couple things proclamations policies guiding principles um step by step exactly what to do. The problem with this is it changes constantly >> and so you can put something in place and then it's irrelevant
018in an hour. So one thing they talked about was possibly having like we have our own task force which is why um Dr. Dr. McMahon is coming forward and um I think on the board side of it, we need to be kind of overarching and look at just making maybe guiding principles of what we believe is important like school uh student safety, things like that. and then um have the task force that we have kind of working on the day-to-day kind of like what we do with our superintendent, you know, come up with the overarching um goals and principles and then have them do that that work. Dr. McMahon, you want to mention what the task force has been doing? >> Sure. Thank you through the chair. Um part of the Marlin part of the
019strategic plan uh or an item on the strategic plan was to design a task force and so we convened a cross departmental group of individuals. So it's not just technology, it's not just curriculum. Um it's many of our organizational um departments came together. Uh and exactly as you said, Miss Baronborg, the um the design of it was to establish core princ core values and guiding principles. AI is out there. It's not like we can go back in time before AI was even an issue and do this. So in a way what we're doing is as we are using these tools we're starting to develop some guidance for various stakeholder groups on how to use AI specific to their stakeholder group a parent and their approach would be very different than a child will be very
020different than a teacher would be very different than you guys um and so that work is being done cross departmentally uh with staff members we do have a a working document and draft stage of core values uh and guiding principles. And our next step is to start to action plan some of these guiding principles. >> So, one thing we talked about is kind of back in the day when the when the calculator came forward and math teachers were like, "No, no, they can't use a calculator. You know, they'll be cheating." And now, of course, we use it as a tool. And so, I think it's more of a teaching kids how to use AI as a tool versus cheating or whatever else they want to use it for, which is sometimes not in a good
021way. Um like for example a guiding um principle for a parent would be you know at what point should my student use AI for their homework or not use AI for their homework. Um because you want your child to learn math and so you don't want them just to find it somewhere and and put it down. You know that's the same thing as people were arguing with calculators years ago. So it's kind of the same. >> Absolutely. was a geometry teacher for a long time and so sometimes when you're teaching geometry if there's some heavy computations students are stuck on the computations rather than the geometric concept you're teaching so just like you said a calculator for that point I'm not teaching the mathematics I'm teaching the geometry concept so it allows them to quickly
022get the answer and focus on the the actual so AI is a tool it is uh it's not um this how 3000 where it's taking over everything um right now it is a tool that we can allow our teachers our students to speed up the learning process in places but they need that guidance they need to know how can I use this to protect students interests >> yeah so one of the things they were bringing up is that like semol um county came up with some really interesting guiding principles that were interesting to look at and um the task force for state of Florida also has them and so I kind of looked at both of those and kind of meshed them myself to say okay how can these work and they were really good
023principles. I mean, things that I think our board needs to come up with a policy of just guiding principles and then kind of leave it open like that because otherwise we're constantly going back to it every week and changing things and we could get stuck in the weeds on this and so we need to be really cautious how we move but we need to move. I mean there are things that are happening already. Um one of the things they showed us was how you can generate um create music. You can just tell them, you know, I want you to create a song about our district and boom, it creates a song. It's amazing. Anything else you want to add? >> I can respond to questions if you'd like, but I one of the thoughts that
024that I had in or reflections I had in meeting during individual board briefings is to bring back Dr. every man in team for a more thorough um thorough um presentation regarding the work that the committee is doing which just keeps the the pace and cadence um in terms of the work that we're doing as he mentioned it it is ever changing and quickly changing um but the team has done a significant amount of work to set the foundation in order to ensure that we have the systems around learning how to appropriately use and interact with AI to continue to learn as fast as we we need to learn while at the same time maximizing how we're using our time to improve student outcomes. So, uh, that's been the focus of of this work. And I
025think it's been done in a way that it really, you know, sometimes we're moving, I think other systems may look at us and say that we're moving very very slow, but we're moving very very slow to move very very very fast. Um, and taking a very thorough and deep approach. Um, so just to give the the honor and reverence to the work that that team is doing, allowing them to come in and make a very brief presentation to the board uh, regarding that body of work may be um, a a very good natural next step. >> Right. Right. And I know there are other districts like uh Miami that's doesn't even have a policy and they just have a task force and they're moving on that. Um but I think it's important that we have
026at least overarching guiding principles that we um put it out there for our parents to say this is acceptable, this isn't. And you know it aligns with the student code of conduct too. >> So board members, any comments? >> Sure. >> Yes. Dr. Posa. Yeah, I think this is a great conversation and one we've had a few times, but um some of the core I guess guiding principles for me would be um and some of it stated already uh that you know students shouldn't be using it unless explicitly instructed that they can. The default should probably be no AI tools are used. Um and then uh we we already have uh punishments in place for misuse. So that's something we already have by policy. uh whether it be uh using video AI to make a
027video of your friend or something. Um you know another concern or something to discuss is that uh these AI tools have a lot of limitations and um a lot of people I know and I've messed around with it. You know you can ask it to create a PowerPoint presentation on you know uh personal finance so you can teach personal finance. it sometimes puts things in there that are blatantly inaccurate and false. Um, so when kids are using this as a research tool to better understand something, there will be times where they're learning things that are blatantly false and the AI put something out that was incorrect. That that still happens routinely. Um, which goes to the teacher side. If the teachers are using this to help make their presentations and help make their lessons plan,
028uh, the AI could inadvertently be including false information into the lesson. Um, and you know, I think that at the end of the day, it's a tool. There should be classes where they learn how to use it. Um, because ultimately, wherever they go in life, they're probably going to be using some AI tool at their job. Um, so it is something we want them to get familiar with, but we also don't want it to interfere with their learning. So there's definitely going to be a balance. >> Docs is back. >> Oh, is it is it back up? Okay, board docs is back. >> Mine is mine just came up. >> Okay, Mr. Dyer, did you want to make a comment? >> Oh, yeah. I I think that uh I like the idea of the task
029force and I like the idea of kind of guiding principles. I think that is much too early. there's nothing that we're going to do to change it. And I think there's a lot going on right now at both the state level and the task force that you're on, Dr. Moore, as well as here. And I think that we shouldn't be too premature. uh we should be uh get a lot more information actually come up with the guidelines but other than that I think that to make any big policy change or any uh announcement which is going to change in two weeks anyway that it's probably uh best to uh just to keep on the steady course of developing the guidelines and and and uh continuing to research it through the task force. >> Dr. Jones
030um just follow up on what Dr. Pusca said there was information on an English teacher who gave an assignment to her students and she said use AI for this essay. Use all of AI. So they turned it in. She turned it back and said okay now you are to go and find out what is correct and what isn't correct. 55% was not correct. And as far as um I mean our kids are very much on top of this but I believe you know when you look at our schoolboard policy 7540.08 08 it's pretty spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe specific and we did this last year and our code of conduct page 55. I mean we may have to even go
031in and tweak that. I don't know because we did this last year but the guiding principles I think have to be over, you know, overarching and they have to just kind of go clearly what we want to do. U Dr. McMahon and Dr. Jacobs gave a great presentation and I spoke to many board members after the session I was in. They wanted to get some more information about how we're doing this. Having a task force and I like the committee because it's just not it, you know, it's people all over. It has to be our teachers, our support staff. It has to be I think parents would be great on that too if we need parents. But I think the most important thing you said, Dr. McMahon, is how do we help our parents? Um,
032obviously with teachers, we'll have the staff development, but even parents went to Texas with my 10-year-old grandson and he's telling me what what to use, you know, and so forth. And so I have to you know research this for and you know the other thing one last thing on the English teacher and she said to her students Google is not a primary source you know that's how they're thinking Google this this this and this. So um I think that we keep the task force keep it up keep us updated um have a you know diverse task force with many uh employees and uh just continue to look at it and have those principles be overarching because the minute we say something it's going to change. Thank you >> Mr. Z. >> Um it's so funny
033that you mentioned that Dr. Jones because I remember a time when Google uh was not in the dictionary as a verb and obviously when that happened it was in the news front page Google is now a verb. You can Google it. Um but yeah I think one of the items that I had here for discussion was an AI proclamation which I'm very happy to um come back to at an at another date. Um I think that a lot of the things that we are talking about is captured in this proclamation. Um the proclamation just it doesn't set policy but what what the intent of it was and for those if you've read it was really just to provide a public statement of the purpose of the way of work around AI for us here at
034the district which is everything that we're currently doing but codified in this proclamation. it just gives way for um the work towards that end um in in this AI world. Uh I think that AI can be extremely helpful. It does amazing things. I also think it can be extremely dangerous. Um and I there are my biggest biggest worry is that we have diminished the ability for student not we as a district we in general um have diminished the ability for students um when technology became the thing just in general and a and obviously you see kids on their iPads all the time and gaming and sitting in front of a TV or a screen, you know, they're not not very many of them are out climbing a tree and digging for worms and, you know,
035uh, being active as we were, as my generation was when I was growing up. I mean, soon as 3 p.m. came around, went home, changed clothes, went out, didn't come home until it was dawn or dusk, sat for dinner, and then you did your homework, you know, >> hopefully dusk. >> I mean, dusk. Um, but yeah, so that that's the way that it was. and you were and no cell phones, no anything, you know, and uh I remember my mom used to raise the window. We lived on the fourth floor in an apartment building and she would, you know, yell out the window, "Time to eat," you know, and everyone else did that. But I think that with AI, I worry tremendously about students relying on the ability of AI um over their own ability
036to think for themselves. And that's really a problem for me. Um, so I think that the biggest thing when we're talking about principles is that AI should be a pilot uh a co-pilot rather and it should never ever replace the person. It should never ever replace a teacher. I think it should never ever replace um the ability of students to be able to self-direct um or you know to make decisions or to create assignments. I mean, our policy now states that the utilization of AI tools is strictly prohibited for students to complete um homework. We already have that in policy, which is great. That's what we worked on last year. Um so that we can hold on to the values of individualized um thinking and creativity and problem solving and communication and all the things
037that you know I believe that we hold uh to be important in our district uh and in our community as values. So leading with that valuesdriven mindset, um that's really where the per where this proclamation came in. Um there are some if you take a look at it, Dr. Ma, Dr. McMahon, I'd love to be able for us um to create uh district guiding principles, overarching ideas, but he in here there are some that I certainly think are very very important that I've outlined here. And it is um in that last uh section um that actually provides uh that the school district shall ensure safeguards. We have to provide safeguards around AI even though we want children to be able to learn how to use it correctly and accurately. But I think AI literacy, ethical
038use, student protections, data privacy, security for staff and students, all those things should be non-negotiable. I think those are critical to what we do as a district and moving forward. I don't think that we need to be like the Joneses. Just because everybody is doing it doesn't mean that we should be doing it, too. I think that taking it slow is the right thing for us. Um, creating a task force that is not just a handful of people. I think we need more than just a handful of people on our in our district task force because there are so many uh there's such um a a way for this to could go ary um and because it's so fluid we have to allow for that fluidity but at the same time create those guard rails
039so we don't go off track. Um I like what we are doing. We've talked about this before that we are starting at the top and coming down which is training administrators how to use it, how to appropriately, you know, access whatever it is that they're going to access, training teachers, and then all the way down so that students are really the last ones on on that totem pole. And and I'm okay with that because it could be so dangerous. I will say um I don't know. I'm gonna open it up to you, Dr. McMahon, if you'd like or or Dr. Moore or anybody. The one thing that I I do also fear, and I know I shouldn't fear, but I fear chat bots. Individual personalized chat bots. They can be extremely dangerous for students who
040don't know how to use it properly. And now there are apps. Of course, we know that they can access it outside on their own, on their phone, on their iPads. But these things create personalities. They create um really dangerous relationships with students where students think this is now my best friend or this is a real person. And some students have even been interviewed and said, you know, you do know that this is not a real person and they I don't care, you know, and that's scary. That is so scary to me. So, I don't know if we can get to a point where we can create and that's not in our policy at all. Um, so I I'm okay with our current policy. I just don't want to allow for these kinds of things. So,
041if you want to open up on any thing that I just mentioned, >> I'm gonna say something to that because I already brought that up to the superintendent and um no, I think that's something that we need to educate parents on because they don't know that those bots are out there. I'm telling you, they don't. >> And so, um that's something I think we need to put in our title one nights or whatever, but we need to educate our parents. >> Yeah. And I would just piggyback that we probably don't want these chatbot type AI tools to be available to the kids. It should be something more productive. And I'm sure you guys have seen the I know there's at least one case where the chat box um helped to convince a kid to commit
042suicide. It it encouraged it. It gave them ideas on how to do it. Um >> and ultimately the kid probably would have never committed suicide had it not been for that AI tool that helped him do it. Um so obviously we don't want any tools like that in the hands of our kids. >> So I was going to bring up like the task force um a couple of the guiding principles but um according to our district that is not a secure connection that we can connect to is the state's task force for AI. >> So never mind. Um so I just wanted to bring it up there that you know there are districts that moving forward policies and proclamations things like that. I think like we're doing right now, going slow, letting the task force
043kind of build things, bringing it back to the board to let us know what's going on and overarching principles about safety and things like that, I think are are where we need to go. >> And I I do appreciate through chair, I I looking at our draft core values is very much in line with what you guys are saying. The first one, protect with integrity. Second one, act ethically. Third one, build trust or transparency. We are educators first and we recognize that AI is a tool much like a pencil, a calculator. Um, and so we want to do it to protect ultimately students and then obviously build their build them up to be educated citizens. So, um, I appreciate the immediate feedback because it definitely does confirm our work that we are in line with
044your desires. Uh, however short the feedback is, but um, definitely. So, thank you. So, just as a >> No, I you're probably going to say it, but you said that you were going to bring back an item for uh regarding AI and what the task force is doing. Go ahead. >> I was going to simply add to that statement that we would take the proclam the items within the pro proclamation and then align those items to the presentation. Um so if there's gaps, we can discuss them as a whole. Sure. >> Um so that would allow the board to make a decision regarding next possible steps. >> Yeah. I I'd appreciate it and obviously a proclamation is not going to determine policy. Uh but it does align with our policy and it it it is
045certainly um a public declaration that we are dedicated to this moving forward. So I appreciate it and I look forward to the to the workshop on this item. >> Next next item um hall of fame for high schools. There are several high schools that do this. Our high schools do not. I'm talked to both of our principles about it. They're both very excited about it. It's a way of uh honoring alumni in your school, but also reminding them of where they came from in case their success maybe could lead to some sort of support for the school as well. Um but there are some really interesting things out there. Some are just for athletics. Uh some I think are really interesting because they're for like military um people that have gone on to serve in
046the military. Um people that have gone on become artists or whatever else. So there are two links that I put on the um board docs. One is um the NFHS um kind of guidelines for creating a hall of fame. It's more based on athletic aletics than anything else. The second one I brought up was interesting. It is a a company that creates these and you know you think of a hall of fame like um my daughter's college they have a hall of fame and she was inducted into it and when we went there uh they put basically made a plaque of her face and her accomplishments and then put it in a room and that was nice and they're in the room. Well, it was a nice honor and nice to go to but you
047know nobody ever looks in that room so it was kind of an interesting thing. Whereas these are displays that are up where kids can access them and they can look and see what they can achieve or a goal to look forward to or somebody in their um school that went to their school that achieved something that maybe they want want to achieve so they can make those connections with their alumni. So I just thought it was a neat thing to do. Of course, you know, they'd probably have to fund raise to be able to do a display like that or something to that um effect. But I I just thought it was a nice way for our district, especially since um Beach High School's been putting out those social media um blips about their alumni.
048It was really nice to see. I know they've gotten some feedback on that about, okay, you didn't include this and you didn't include that. So, there is always that downside to when you put out something, you think it's going to be positive, and then somebody decides to make it a little not positive. But um I think something like this where you actually contact the alumni and say, "Hey, we'd like to honor you. Can you give us the bio so that we're getting it right from the alumni or their family?" So, um ideas or or comments about this? >> Yeah, I think it's a great idea. I think it's a great way to honor our students and uh improve feelings of community longitudinally. I think it's an awesome idea. >> Good. Great. Um Dr. Johns, >>
049great idea. um National Federation of High Schools I work with when I was at the state high school athletic association they did a hall of fame they have good guidelines but I like the fact that it's just not athletics that we really look at um people um who've made an impact and you know once you get a committee going the schools going I think it could be very very successful and I will add one thing um you know the minute you put one person out there they'll say what about this person so you've got to have a diverse group of people looking at it looking at the selection and uh what's the criteria and so forth. But anytime we can recognize anyone, I think it's positive. >> Yeah, I agree with you. That's what the
050um I think the task is to put it out there to say come up with the requirements or the you know the committee requirements to getting the committee together to create the requirements. That's what I'm asking for, Mr. Dyer. >> Yeah, I think it's a great idea, too. I told uh Dr. more. When I first saw that come on the agenda that in a tour I did with the Florida Council of 100, we were down at Northwest was the high school. >> Northwestern in Miami. And uh we were sitting there and talking with the principal and touring that school which was a very tough school that had come around a bit. I think it was under his toutelage for a long time. And you you were you actually principal there? >> Oh no, it's counterpart.
051It's rival. >> Right. But anyway, as we were walking through, the principal was talking about we need alumni support to do this and this. And one of the guys with us looked over on their hall of fame wall and they said, "Well, the guy right there is a multi-billionaire attorney that lives in West Palm Beach. You ought to call him." You know, I I think it's very good. Uh there's a lot of people out there that have been very successful in our community uh who do feel a loyalty and it would be nice to honor them. I think also we heard about Oslo. Uh it's a good way to put that in the Hall of Fame, too. There's other other ways to honor people that have made a difference in our community and been part
052of the community. So, good idea. >> Mr. Rosariel, you want to speak? >> Uh I it's a great idea. Um um academics hall of fame, social hall of fame, community hall of fame, you know, uh sports hall of fame. I mean, all of it is a great idea. Um I think that though um one question that I had was it intended for individual schools or communities to create their own guidelines and standards for it or is that something that the district should create so that everyone is looks through the same filter. >> I'm I'm going to ask the superintendent um my I've been discussing it with him and and ask him to come up with kind of the way he thinks it should go with guidelines for the high schools. Each high school is unique.
053However, I agree. I think they need overarching goals and and guiding principles. Let's put it that way. >> So, I I will definitely take the feedback and this is is great conversation. One of my ideas or thought it is to do it at the biggest possible level. Um being here going on well six years. The degrees of separation in Indian River County are a lot of things start here. A lot of things are birthed here. a lot of uh great people who are doing great things in other spaces or places are graduates of our system. Um so the opportunity to both have a a legacy in terms of individuals who have done thing for the last 30 or 40 years. Um so I don't know if it needs to be school high school specific. Um
054but for the district p um you know you went to this particular school and then creating very specific categories a lot of times as we do something because it will be new and because it's honoring the greatness and there is so much greatness. um if I can take some of the burden of the process, the selection, the identification off the schools and create something that is very comprehensive. So for the next for whenever this is done and approved moving forward uh it allows us every year to induct uh folks into the hall of fame um for based on their contributions. But as you're starting there there is a potential of of not getting it right and I don't want to have that to be on the schools. I'd rather absorb that myself. >> No, I
055I agree with that. >> So, putting together a process that allows us to say um you know, you know, folks that have been doing it for 30 or 40 years, they're in this pace, you know, that they have all of the greatness into the Hall of Fame. We have hundreds of people who need to be in the Hall of Fame, um but aren't because we haven't created it yet. >> Yeah. So, I I agree with that. I I just think you need to think about where you want to put a display. It needs to be somewhere where community members can see it. >> It needs to be not maybe in this district office. It needs to be at the schools. >> Well, we should put at the playground because everyone is there. >> Yes. They're
056already using it. You're right. I was stopped the other day and said, "Are we allowed to be on the playground?" Because I see people out there. >> Yeah. May I? >> Yes. So, um, that's exactly one of the reasons why I asked because I think it's important for us to be able to create the rules of who gets selected and how and why. And we have people who do great things in our community all the time. Um, who make an impact all the time, but I'm not so sure that you use the word legacy. I think that's that's an important word. But I'm not so sure that those people who do great things have that legacy. The longevity and the commitment to the work in our county, I think should be a part of it.
057And you captured it well when you explained uh when you use the word legacy. So I maybe that's really I'm glad uh yeah because it does remove from the schools, you know, who do we select and who do we not? somebody who donates a large amount for the naming of a gym floor may be a one-time event. Not that that's not wonderful. It's incredibly important, but it doesn't have it doesn't carry that weight of, you know, long-term commitment to the to the work of the schools schools and the school district. So, I'm I'm glad to hear that. >> Uh, yes, Dr. Jones. Just one last thing um to tell you how important our community is. When I was at the state level, I had the privilege of facility facilitating the state committee that put Billy
058Living on the state hall of fame and then a few years before that was Bill Wilson. So, you know, our community um shines. >> Yes, sir. Did you want to wrap it up? >> I will take that information back, >> create um a program itself and bring that program back to the board. >> Okay. Uh next item is uh the naming policy 7250. So we um changed this a little bit a lot of bit and um almost too much I think that it's kind of limiting sometimes for um you to be able to go through the naming. Also it kind of puts us in a position where a committee will come up with something and then the board has to approve it or not approve it. And so it puts us in a position of
059saying no to community members that have done the work. So um maybe looking at it a little differently because we are going to have the chance and we already are for naming rights for things and um like you said there have been schools where you've gone visited and seen you know the name on a science slab and wherever and so yes those opportunities should be out there but we just need to maybe look at this policy and tweak a little and so um I asked the superintendent if you could kind of come up with a sample or an idea of how to tweak I mean, Mr. Baron, >> I'll go. I'll go. Go ahead. >> No, I'm just asking you to present that first. >> So, I I think in in in that conversation, you
060you are correct. This is a policy that's relatively new in terms of when it was created. We've now had the opportunity to implement it, I think, three times a as a a total. Um, and I agree with the the structure within the policy. Um, but now that we've implemented, I do I think there's opportunities to kind of streamline it just a little bit so we could be a little bit more fluid from a staff perspective. Not changing the intent of the policy, but for us to be as fluid and as fast as we possibly can. That's one body of work which is minimal. The other is to ensure that the board remains the ultimate authority and there's no uh contradiction in terms of folks wanting to do something and bringing um a recommendation to you
061in which you would you would say no. Um and the reality is that part of that work would be my work. Um and the other issue, we took a team as we're doing this innovation work to um JD Henderson, which is a lab school um with FAU. Uh I've been there two or three times now. Uh had the opportunity to do a presentation there, had the opportunity to tour there. Um it it is absolutely a school. It does not receive any capital funds. Uh but for you to walk that system, it is a charter school. So it follows the same requirements in terms of uh academics as we do. Um it is beautiful state-of-the-art technology uh a very structured program around um the uh they have their own and very similar they have their own
062fund very similar to us. So coordinating uh the opportunity so when we're doing the work for raising funds there is ability uh to give authority uh to myself or or through me when folks want to donate for a space or a place we have the ability to do so and bring it back a recommendation to the board versus uh some of the procedural things. So um haven't thoroughly thought it through but I think it it it would be worth a a look in order to ensure now that we are uh moving as fast as as we are and we need every dollar we can possibly have. Is there a way uh to create a policy that allows us um to give the board comfort in terms of um the appropriate process and community input while
063at the same time uh looking at other things uh that gives us the ability to improve the resources uh and materials that we're putting in the hands of our students and teachers. So that would be uh my thoughts as you're discussing this. >> Right. The intent of reason bringing this up is I just felt like things are getting bogged down >> and how we can make this a little bit more streamlined would be nice. Uh Mr. Dyer. >> Yeah, I'd like to say I think that the ability to uh recognize donors as we need funds going forward is great, but this AD Henderson school, I've been there probably six or seven times and contribute to the school. Uh, I think that if the board wanted to do a workshop at Ad Henderson and just see
064what they've done, I mean, why couldn't we do that? Why can't we take a field trip and try to understand uh how the attorney can go with us? We'll go on >> and that way we'll know everything is fine. >> Uh, so um, >> as long as you have cameras >> because people we'll have a videographer follow us around and be there at all time. I mean, whatever whatever we need to do, but I think for the board, you know, even even a jury can go out to the crime scene. I mean, certainly the board ought as a as a body noticed ought to be able to do something to get more information that you can all see at one time. So, I mean, I would be happy to facilitate that if the board is
065is interested in in doing something like that. I think that it it is an opportunity for us and it really kind of was brought home to me uh when we got that uh Florida Power and Light playground which I thought was terrific. I mean there's a lot of things that we can do that will benefit uh people in the community will benefit our school system and will actually be very very nice uh for all the things that we can do for innovation in this system. So if the board is interested and we can figure out how to do it, I'll be happy to facilitate it. And I think it would be well worth it. It's eyeopening to see what they have done for two reasons. One is the giving and the philanthropy which is available
066in this community. By the way, the art museum just raised hund00 million in this community. So, I would think that there's probably room for people to support outstanding public education that we have. So, that's number one. Number two, a lot of the programs that I see there are things that we can do in this community. I mean, I look, you'll see a biolab with a shark researcher that I mean, it's incredible stuff going on, but we have Jeff here at Vero Beach High School with a amazing bolab. How can we they take it down to five year olds in their bio bio lab or biochemistry or whatever they're doing and it's it's absolutely unbelievable. So I think there are things that are good for curriculum. I think there are things good for contribution and I
067think it would be good for the board to do corporate uh corporately. Yes ma madam chair you sorry uh I think it's a great idea. Um I I'm not so sure that you could facilitate it for us during a workshop because we have a chair uh to do that, but I think what you mean is that you would organize it and open the door for us to be able to I love it. I think it's a great idea. >> The chair. >> Yeah, I think it's a great idea. >> Um >> chair or chair >> on the >> No, it's a great idea. And some and you know, St. Lucy County when they they went through several floods um some years ago and they would have their board meetings at different schools uh and and
068it actually gave the community another perspective on their schools because they could they could visit different schools rather than just going to one building where their board meetings typically were. I mean now they're all in one building but um it it's a it's the same concept and sure we can definitely do a field trip. Uh, we already got the hand clap from our attorney, so that's a good thing. >> Oh, we did. >> Yeah. >> No, we can't. I mean, I I I know that we can have I'm sure you'll do the work, but I know that we can have meetings elsewhere as long as they're publicly noticed. And um certainly I think the the video is is something to to consider. Um I think it's a great idea. I've always been one for um
069stepping out of the box and doing something different. So, um the one thing though that I will say about this policy, uh I've talked with um the superintendent about this multiple times and Miss Enville as well, that there's a lot of things in this policy that are very contradictory. Um this is the one policy that we did talk about multiple times that needs to be changed. Um there are things in here that say you have to have a community forum and then there is a line that says the superintendent may recommend other names. So it's which is it you know and then the board has the final say so then the board can actually create it. Um I think we need when we do this >> uh Dr. Huh? >> Clean up. >> Uh, yeah.
070No, more than just clean up. Rewarding needs to happen, but I I do think that there also needs to be um rules, separate rules for different things. And this is the part of the policy that I think would be easier for us to be able to manage. For example, renaming an office space or renaming a corridor might be different than renaming an entire new building or renaming an entire uh not renaming a new building, a new bu building gets a new name, renaming an entire building like we did with Pelican. That process might be different from the renaming of a brand new facility. Um so those processes need to be identified in this policy differently. So where it says here uh commemoration I don't never liked commemoration by the way just renaming naming and renaming
071um >> so yeah if we could clean rea re you know fix it restate it do whatever it is but a thousand% this needs to be rewritten and um and I know Miss Enville knows my concerns on it and Dr. more so >> long overdue. >> And that is why I brought it up because it really does need to be uh not just tweaked. Yeah. >> Um first of all, I will go on the field trip. That's that's a go. I think we're all honorable. Um we will not discuss things that we know that could possibly be on an agenda. Um I've been on the one policy if you had Dr. A. Ronald Hudson who is truly a living legend. Lot of work. A lot of work. um the ones that just named for coach
072Low and Dick um they're following it and they just check with me on board policy to make sure it's correct. We revised this policy after Gford Middle um was changed back to its original mascot and colors. I thought the be that's one of the best things we ever did for the Gford community. So I stand by that very clearly and it it should be I believe it supermajority decision and I I know every board member in here was very positive toward that change. Um, but it certainly needs to be tweaked a lot and it needs to work for us. The one last thing is I was a little confused. We're going through the the most transition this school district has ever seen and I've been here 45 years. Um, and I think Dr. Moore and
073his team went out about 20 times. I only was there two or three times >> and I I listened to um the community whenever I was there and I I just think that in general um these are the kind of things which which is exceptional. I believe somewhere in the schoolboard policy if there's an exception you know to go through the fact that we had to name it Vero Beach Middle and go through all of that that's we've got too much work to do. Those are the things I think where the board can say okay this is a go we can do this super majority if we get it we get it. If we don't, we don't. So, that's the kind of tweak we really need to look at and be more specific. As M.
074Rosario said, a lot of things here that maybe contradict so that we don't make it hard on the community to do this and we don't make it hard on us. So, um, but back to my first point, I'm ready to go. >> Do you have anything? >> I'm I'm interested in the, uh, the field trip. I' I'd be interested in that. And, um, I also support renaming the renaming policy. naming the renaming policy. >> Okay. Then >> M madam chair. >> Yes. >> Um the one thing also that I'd like Miss Enville to kind of take a look at is this the idea of supermajority. We've had this conversation before. Honestly, it's just dumb because the supermajority is still just the majority. It doesn't make a difference. Yes, it is. >> Yeah. So if we
075could kind of you still need three of five and if you have four you still need three. So you still need three either way. There's no supermajority there >> discussion. >> Do you want to say something about it? >> Okay worded and >> well what's the difference then? I don't I don't I don't in this particular case I think it said a super majority of the board members which would always be four >> four >> depending on if there if there was four there or if there was not four there. So >> you know >> that's true. >> So so >> but if you have four >> if you don't really I mean to me if you're going to do a supermajority which I don't always recommend because there are circumstances in which you may
076not be able to have a supermajority available or present. Um, but I think it would be an exceptional circumstance, like if it's going to be like some sort of emergency renaming, which I don't know what that would be. So, but I I do think we need to look at it. I would recommend we look at Neiola's template and see how it differs from what we have right now and then go from there. But I I agree the commemoration is a weird >> Thank you. Appreciate it. >> Dr. Jones, >> I'm going to look back at the notes on that. Um, as far as in the discussion, do you remember what meeting that was? Because I want to review all of that. anybody it was we put it in in January 25 that was with um
077I'm just talking about the >> superjority >> when we brought this policy 72 that was last revised on 82823 >> yeah I think that was with um Mr. Ansbacher. For some reason, that sounds familiar to me. I just don't remember which one. >> Okay. Uh, next item was the AI proclamation, but I understand you're going to put that on. >> We just did it. Yeah, we just talked about it within the item the pre. >> So, just a a quick update. Um, I think visiting is so important for the board because really what we're talking about is what every child needs in a public school. And when you look at this county specifically, and Mr. Dyer, I'm just repeating what he said. uh the giving in this community uh organized correctly. Um we can have
078the exact same thing you're going to see at this particular school. Uh it is a public school. It is what our children deserve. Um we have designed ourselves in a way to be able to deliver um if we have those resources and and I think going and using and saying this is what we're trying to create would be absolutely outstanding. On the back of innovation, I'd be remiss Saturday we had our innovation um showcase of schools. It was a a two-fold event. Uh typically it is a big lift. Uh Miss Christophley left led that lift but above and beyond the organization which was spot on the presentations or performances by our students. We also had to help three schools uh actually four school six schools combined to three schools. Um and it absolutely um those
079were the busiest tables at the event. uh they were there with everything that's been approved, their programming, their themes, the new shirts, >> uh the new shirts, um that that work uh Dr. Jacobs has been leading or coordinating through the the rest of the team. Um >> it was a very very proud proud moment. And then just uh this morning, Dr. Jacobs tell me this consortium in Georgia reaching out to say how how did we go through that particular process? We're not done. Um but you're right, Dr. Jones, that is the the biggest shift uh in terms of the layout and organization of our public school system. Um and the way it's being done um is probably the hardest most logistical way of doing it, but at the end of the day um the authors
080of this reform are going to be uh the folks in our classrooms at our particular schools who are leading this work. So just absolutely outstanding day for for me. Can I mention a a parent who is a PTA president told me, "Please rename it back to schools of choice because parents were confused as to what was going on. Am I supposed to go there and choose find out what school to choose or is this just I'm learning what everybody's just putting on um performances." So um they said just please bring it back to schools of cho choice or choice. >> We we will Dr. Dr. Jacobs will be scheduling our afteraction review there and we will we will look at that. Now returning to our spe uh regular spe uh schedule programming. Um >> I've
081had some dental work folks. I just might as well say it for the entire community and know for the next four or five months I'm going to sound very weird. Um cameras are up. Um board doc is up. We are functioning at 100%. Um Mr. Alberte. >> Hello. All right. Good afternoon, uh, Madam Chair. Thank you, Dr. Moore and board members. The, uh, this is the up the quarterly update for the third quarter of the year from the office of safe schools. They have come out since they've inspected six schools. Um, three of them traditional and three of them chartered and everybody has passed with full compliance. That brings us to a total of eight schools inspected. Uh, 29% with everything um, being good. So, that's really a good report to to to provide. Just
082so you know, they do have five domains they inspect when they go to a school and um these are unannounced visits. So, nobody's getting a heads up that they're coming. So, this is really good report to provide. Dr. Moore, that's all I have. >> So, I'm going to make a comment on that because there are two bills that are being proposed for um safety equipment requirements for all schools. I looked and it was like, okay, well, public schools are pretty good. It's charter schools, I think, that are going to um have to have a change of some sort. So, for example, fencing, things like that. So, that was was kind of interesting to see. Um, there are two bills out there that are being proposed for that. >> That's excellent. >> Yep. You want me
083to go ahead and go through? Okay. Yep. I can provide an update on the other one. So, the next item, it's a 3B. It's a review of the amendment and local agreement for buses. If you remember, uh, the board wanted to make an amendment to that uh, bus agreement. Um, Mr. Rosario suggested to ensure that we had priority for uses of our buses. So they unfortunately in December 1st we were not able to p get that done within the workshop and the actual business meeting. So we got it done this go around. So this coming back to you around for that additional line that will say that we do have priority of use for our buses and that is line two purpose and intent and also line 4A on that agreement. >> Great. Thank you.
084>> Good. >> That's all. >> Okay. through the chair. I'm just going to review the instructional calendar for 2026 2027. I wanted to give a little shout out to Dr. Robin Hardy, Dr. David Ericson. We had CWA and IRCA members on the committee. We also had staff and parents and some community members. So, great collaborative effort. Um, starting on the 10th, August 10th, obviously August 4th is our district professional learning day. going into September, Labor Day, uh scheduled day off on the 21st, October, right after conference nights, and then um the 30th off, which you know, right near Halloween. Good to know. And moving into November, Veterans Day, we have off. And then Thanksgiving week, winter break into January. Um, we come back, the students come back on the 6th, Martin Luther King Day, our
085second semester professional learning day going into February with President's Day and conference night for the spring. March, spring break. Good Friday is on the 26th, so it is over um spring break and then moving into April with a scheduled day off into May and the last day of school for students is Memorial Day. And then just one additional item, Madam Chair, our goal next year is to get this item approved December or earlier. Um I know my family included, they look at the calendar for the while during December while they're all together and us to get this approved in January. We we've got to set a goal for ourselves to get it approved before we go on that Christmas break. Uh so we will do that uh moving forward >> for sure. And the committee
086is already working on the draft for the 2728. They just met last week. >> One one thing I'm gonna warn you about is about the Veterans Day bill that's being proposed. They might want to keep that in mind. >> Took note when you when you mentioned that. So my other item is 3D. This is just a review for the uh the request for increased spending authority for Dona Ice Cream. Not Kona Ice D Kona. This is one of our vendors for food and nutrition and this will support the increased demand at the schools. This is the company that provides uh options that are you know lower in sugar, skim, milk, etc. options and this would be for the remainder of this year up to 145,000. That's all I have. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Board
087members, um the first item is a review of the second semester out of field reports. This might change slightly before the board meeting because we keep it as up to date as possible, but twice a year we bring those back. We're required to send notification to parents of teachers who are out of field. That could be a variety of reasons. They just got their stuff together. Maybe we bring them in as a guest educator or a long-term substitute >> guest educator. And um so the total this time is 133 between all subject area and Esau. 35 of those are Esau only. So that's up 16 from first semester. However, 12 of those are guest educators and then four of them are just changing courses and subject areas as teachers do. So, we expect that in
088the middle of the year because movement happens and um we have that. But um we have >> Does that represent a 10 I'm sorry, a 10% turnover basically since the first of the year. >> No, it's just um >> it's just there's 16 more out of field added, but 12 of them are guest educators added. they came on and filled a spot and don't have a they're out of field and we have to notify um we provide reimbursements on the fees of the $75 fees for Esau for the five reading endorsements. We offer courses in Canvas for the ESAW we offer courses in Canvas. Each principal meets with them and develops a plan and um uploads that in a course on focus. So this is your second se uh semester report as we are required
089to present. The second item is a review of the capital five-year plan. And as you're aware, there's a website where we are supposed to put the five-year work plan. That website is supposed to be up by October 1st. Last year it wasn't. It is still not up. So, we're just going to go ahead and approve our local plan. You approve the budget on September 9th, which has the capital budget for this particular year that we're working on. This plan takes that work plan and puts it in a user-friendly format that people can read and understand. And it's laid out from 26 to 30. We're operating in the 2526 capital plan. Now, I bring those items to you as board items when they're over 50,000. You approve certain roofing projects. We're doing Liberty Now. You approve
090windows to be replaced at Treasure Coast through a hurricane grant. We're doing those now. Parking pickup loops. So, your capital budget, you'll notice it's roughly $52 million of revenue by the time you back out. 10 million for debt service, 10 million for salaries, 3.4 for charters, a million for um impact fees. You're looking at about $26 million of actual funds that we work with in this plan. This plan lays those out. School-based projects, roofing, flooring, life safety, a gutter, um a sharp object for Bob Michaels group to be able to react, for Nick's group to be able to do districtwide projects such as single point of entries, hardened vegetables, cameras, paging systems, technology, vehicles, all of those things are outlined. I will tell you anything that's past 2526 is is uh it's a placeholder. We
091are already starting to work and we changed the plan based on all the stuff that's happening. So the next year that we'll be bringing you a plan probably just right after the summer next time and just get it out of the way now that we have all of the um school innovation project set and everything golden. So you'll be getting this much earlier next year. But um those outy years are simply outliers and are subject to change. So this is your capital 5-year uh plan. >> So because of all the that movement, you're not going to see the norm like floors and roofing, you know, like we have before. >> So um I think uh Mr. Westonberger, our director, has invested in stock and pryloc. Um, our commitment is still to do what we need
092to do. So, we will have flooring projects. We will have roofing projects. We started those earlier as I shared with you that we're doing the roofing project at Liberty during the year. We did the one at Oyola during the year because we can do it after hours and it's not the heat of the summer and it's not the rainy. So yes, we will have projects that we will have to do, but we have minimized them and we have um coordinated them around the projects at the uh schools of innovation. And just remember when you pass the budget, there was an increase in the roll forward and that was very strategic and that is what we are using. We're not cancelling other people's projects that were on the books. That's what we're using to be able
093to move these schools through a very strategic planned uh budget process. Great. >> Anybody else? Okay, >> the next item is your surplus property. The only difference this time, there's only four vehicles. Two 20-y old cargo vans, a 19-y old cargo van, and a 16-year-old F-150. And that's from when we did the vehicle upgrade a while back. We'll be gov dealing those or um for whatever we can get spare parts. They're they're very very um in bad shape as some of you have seen them rusted out. However, there is an extra section this time that you'll see on the surplus and it's called transportation stock item delete. So, we go through Gary Crombbacker, many of you have met. He's our garage mechanic. He goes through those items. Let's say you had I'm going to make
094this up. 10 oil filters for a diesel bus and they were 40 bucks a piece. You got $400 of inventory sitting on the shelf and we don't have diesel buses anymore because those are eight-year-old oil filters that we didn't use. We write those off. It's about 4,300 bucks. you'll get rid of them and he'll gov deal them for whatever he can get to somebody who still has that model bus. So, you'll see a deletion of about $4,300 of tech um transportation stock inventory from their warehouse on this surplus as well. >> So, I'm I'm laughing at the rusting out thing because that was me and I called and said, you know, we got a truck that looks horrible and it's rusty like crazy. I said, you should put a sign on the back that says
095your tax dollars at work. Um the last item is just an extension um with our civil engineers. So in February of 23, the board passed a three-year contract with some civil engineer companies. Carter Associates, Master Mohler, MBV, Schuli, Bidd and Stoddard for engineering services. The statute changed and raised that limit from 4.5 million to 7.725 million. That's the max project we can use under that. Um, all of those vendors have agreed to extend the first year of two optional one year, which is good for us because the terms and conditions stay the same. And madame chair, those are all of my items. >> Okay. So, um, before I close it out, just two things. Um, I attended the Treasure Coast Council Local Governments meeting and um, you know, they had a special guest on there
096that's involved with the new U proposed data center down in St. Lucy that they're proposing. Boy, is that going to be something we need to pay attention to that. Um, if you've se not seen the stuff that the sup that the uh, governor has put out about data centers and the harm or the concern that's there. >> Yeah. Um it's it's interesting to see what's going on with that. The other uh thing I attended was today there was a Central Florida Consortium um workshop and those occur once a month and all board members are invited. It's usually on Mondays at 9:30. Um but they need to be noticed because all board members are invited. So, if we could make sure that that goes to Dorian as a um requirement that those are noticed in case
097anybody else wants to get on there because they did like today they were mentioning how um Bvard County is using um they were the presenters and they were using uh they were providing what you're looking at doing which is providing courses for parents that have vouchers to sign up and take and so it's money coming back to the district. So they have um some pretty good things that they're doing up there and there were some others that shared about what they were doing across the state. So it's really kind of interesting what they're proposing there. All right, with that yes, >> one more thing. Sorry, I want to um go back if I may. I have a question for Mr. um uh for Himeme. Sorry. Uh going back to that agreement with the su with
098the sheriff's office. I was just looking at the agreement. If you look at section number five, it says that this agreement shall be effective beginning October 1st. Now, that was when this was first drafted, but I think that that needs to fit change. >> I think we could uh I spoke with Amy. I think we can hand hand write that in as for >> Yeah. >> Okay. Got it. Got it. >> Yeah. because when this first came when this came to us last at our last workshop >> December 1st >> in December um something else that was brought up that I don't see here which was part of uh what I wanted to ask as well um was that we would have first right of refusal and we I don't see it here I don't
099know if it was >> under 2 a >> 2 a >> uh purpose under two purpose and intent the last sentence starts with shall >> uh there's no 2 a there's just two The last sentence >> starts with shall >> such uh >> such such use shall be subject to the school board's discretion availability of buses. >> And then the same thing was added in 4 A. >> Yeah. And which one? >> 4 A. >> All right. I see it. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Appreciate it. >> Yes, Dr. Jones. I don't know if every board member received this, but we see re received a message from Joe McGee. He's our legislative guy at FSBA with some attachments and encouraging people to email about Schools of Hope. Is that >> That's the one I
100had forwarded to you guys. >> Oh, okay. I just got this about 10 minutes ago. Okay. Anyway, >> that's the one I was referring to earlier that um it's a call to action. Please, please, please contact our legislators, let them know. Um we need to change. Okay. because right now the only two bills that have been proposed I don't think will fly personally because I saw what was being presented and um I won't say anything else but uh those are total revokes of the bill. I don't see that happening but I think that we need to encourage them to bring it back to the original intent which was uh failing schools. So that that we have all discussed that that's kind of our um commitment to push. So please do that. Please push it. All
101right. With that, I'm going to call this meeting to an end at 1:15. That's a record. >> Dr. Mario, you'll get to your meeting.