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Special School Board Meeting - (TDEFP) - Jul 22, 2025

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Granicus / BROWARD
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2025-07-22
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Broward County, FL
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9,656 words · about 54 min
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2026-06-26

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001the cdi. good evening, this special school board meeting of the broward school board is now called to order. Our primary foc sues is to create a safe and productive environment for all participants. Please notice the exit doors. All attendees must occupy a seat with the exception of media. Once the board room has reached its seating capacity, you'll be des I -- he is I -- designated area. I will now introduce deer field park elementary to lead us in the "pledge of allegiance". we are deer field elementary, please stand for the "pledge of allegiance". I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under GOD indivisible with liberty and justice for all. You MAY be seated. thank you, dear field park elementary, as

002we prepare to begin our special school board meeting, we are reminded that our vision is 100 percent voluntary efficiency for all our students. Our vital task is to sustain this achievement. We will continue to continue educating all students to their potential, our theme this year is -- . Official in the district. Today, the board is considering the following business. One, approval of tentative district district education facilities planning and fiscal year 2025-2026. mr. Hepburn, are there any changes to the agenda? No. No changes. all for approval of agenda. MAY I have a motion and a second on item 1. It's been moved by DR. Zeman seconded business MS. Bulman. Okay. Good evening, and welcome to our special meeting for the broward county public schools tentative district education facilities planning fiscal year. This is the first of

003two meeting. This plan will be presented to tt school board for adoption in DECEMBER 2025. I will now turn it over to the superintendent who will give an overview. thank you, MADAM Chair and good evening, I'm please today submit this tentative district educational facilities planning fiscal plan for approval. I want to thank the board for their last input at the last workshop. At that workshop the board provided feedback on recommendations. Today's recommendation reflects the board's priorities based on the feedback. The board is aware that the district is conducting a facility assessment that will help shape our districts as we redefine. This addresses the elements need today fill the gap until the recommend a right side brought forward. At that time, this will be amend today include the recommendations. Is would like to every one to

004know, safe secure learning environment. We're focused not keeping our schools secure and implementing upgrades that were previously approved bit board along with security cameras and other security updates. The facilities plan continues to deliver the commitment that's we made as we move towards completion later this year. This also includes the leasing authority to replace aging vehicles in our fleet. Funding is being recommended by for high priority needs such as to bridge the gap such as the replacement of buildings at mary, elementary, fire alarm systems upgrade at northeast high school and roofing projects across the district. They will have additional funding to address beautification, and address h-vac issues. Environmental safety will be able to restore drain infrastructure as. Other music instrument replacement, it infrastructure, using federal e rate funding. Portable demolition, and vape detext -- detection. The

005staff will -- and the board will answer any questions. I'm going to turn it over to omar shim chief financial officer. omar shim director of capital project. The special school board meeting this evening is to discuss the educational facilities plan. We would like to remind plan that this is the first of the two public meetings including the final adoption on september third. Also to remind the board that budget amendments also occur throughout the year as needed and directed bit school board. As a superintendent mentioned, we have taken feedback at the last school board workshop and incorporated changes that reflect the school board. Today we'll present the tent different. Our presentation is a brief overview of the detail plan you have before you. Once our presentation is complete, the board can provide additional feedback and staff

006is available to answer questions. This slide, the revenue slide, thank you. Provides an update on revenue and financing sources. There we go. The major source of funding provides capital millage of 1.5 mills which is a property tax of approximately 150,000 per 100,000 -- 150 of 100,000 tax value. And the property appraiser provides us an estimate in JULY for the upcoming tax year. That is used to update our prodictions. Financing resources include technology and vehicle leases that are tied to appropriation that's we'll discuss on the next slide. State source right side mostly a pass-through for charter schools who also receive a portion of the capital millage. The district also receives capital debt service funds called conds from the state from motor vehicle license plate revenue. funding is included to sustain the commitments the board has made

007in the previously approved dfp. This includes security items such as video surveillance equipment and intercoms athletic with new turf fields baseball and athletic courts. Refresh, and there is transportation funds for bus and white fleet replacement. School furniture and custodial is funded to sustain current maintenance levels. Also included in that appropriations table is funding for additional items that we discussed at the last school board workshop, and we'll discuss in more details in upcoming slides. After including these items in our appropriations, unallocated funding over the five year is 201 million, for 2025-26, the unallocated reserve is 53.1 million or did 10.6 percent of our millage slightly exceeding our amount recommended in our funds policy. And also, I want today mention that we're closing the year squ this is a projection of the year-end closing so, that will

008vary slightly as we close the year. On on what was funded, the items on this table were discussed at the last school board workshop. This includes additional funding from the transfer for eligible capital expenditure and to increase the capitol reserve to meet the goals in the fund balance policy. Details of recommendations will be discussed on the next slide. Okay, so, this slide provides the new funding recommendations and the details are listed in a appendix a, that's attached. But I'll just go over the highlights which of course include mer beththoon additional funding costs throughout the five years, northeast high school fire alarm upgrade and for ppo, we are physical plant operations we increased funding for hvhc and other capitol improvements including school painting and beautification. For environmental health and safety, it includes building automation systems drainage

009and as well as aed systems. Additional equipment, purchases also included music equipment, and a becon refresh. It includes infrastructure upgrade as well as other technology issues. Additional security projects, the largest is the detection system to improve our security at our schools. This athletic replacement and replacement of unsafe bus lifts and other transportation equipment. So the district is engaged in on going efforts to improve serve our staff and improve the conditions and appearance of those facilities. As we go through those processes and make decisions, the district can utilize any available resources including finance capacity to address future projects that are identified.. And this concludemymy prentationon d we can take questions from the board. Thank you. thank you. do we have public comment? no ma'am. okay. We'll move on to board discussion, DR. Holness? thank you, MADAM

010Chair. So, I have several inquiries as it pertains to especially the impacted school as a result of the repurposes of broward estates elementary. We donough that the students at that campus are being transitioned to plantation elementary as well as mlk. Now with broward estates being repurposed into an early learning center, students who transition, necessitates ready in these schools for in coming enrollment. It is incumbent on us as a board to address any emerging needs of these schools as a result of redefining process that impact these schools. And I have toured both of these schools and they were some emerging concerns as as a result of the transition of these new students. So before I, asked some questions, DR. Hepburn, there were suppose to be temporary walkways installed at these two schools. Did that take place?

011And if not, when? DR. Hepburn? yes, I know that's been a priority for MS. Paul and her team, MS. Paul? yes, it has not taken place yet. But we are going to do it. We are concerned with the weather but they were be installed. We were just trying to do it as close to the start of school as possible in case, often times when we have bad weather that comes in or storms, we have to remove them but they will be installed at the campus. and I appreciate that MS. Paul, and I believe that I was told that, around two weeks before school starts that they will be installed it. I am, being concerned about the weather to install them and even more concerned about the weather, should we not install them and the impacts

012that they will have on the students. Should we not install them prior to school opening? So will these be installed before the two schools open? yes, that's the commitment we made. And again, you know, okay, I have questions about permanent walkways for these two schools. Both of the schools, because of the the number of schools coming in having additional students, we'll need to have permanent extended covered walkways. As you mentioned those are temporary, right? So I guess, I need to know if these extended walkway that is necessary for these incoming students and increase in traffic with the bus loop and the parent loop, can we include DR. Hepburn, the permanent extended walkway? DR. Hepburn? just, go ahead MS. Paul. what I was going to suggest, DR. Holness is that we currently have fca happening right

013now and in this situation where the walkways, or the lack there of is not an isolated incident. We have several of those same type situations across the district. So, I think it would be incumbent upon us to see the results of the fca and see how large of a situation we have with the walkways. We have used temporary walkway as a way to keep our kids out of the rain and so forth. But I agree with you there is a need to have a permanent solution for this. okay, so DR. Hepburn, I have a concern with that. These two particular schools are the schools that rim pacted -- are impacted by. What we promised the community is to make sure that these schools are ready to receive the incoming students. So this is not, I

014would not want to put this in the same light as we're putting all covered walkways across the district. We did promise the community and we met with them many times that we're going to take care of those two schools. This is a little different. I think it's incumbent on us to make sure that we take care of these schools. And they're not looking for, they already have permanent walkways, they just need to extend them a little in order to accommodate the new are traffic that is coming in. While I understand MS. Paul, I think considering the situation with these two schools, that we, basically so I believe it's necessary at this point to show this community that we care and put it to provide the extension to those covered walkways for mlk and plantation elementary.

015yep. MS. Paul. go ahead MS. Paul. let me see if I can clean this up a little bit. The fca will provide us an idea of what the needs are, of also those two schools. And so in addition to the need to have permanent walkways, there will be other needs that will be identified and that's why I alluded to the fca as an indication of how much we're dealing with. Understand that in ecosystem with those schools that there is about 5.9 million dollars. In my opinion, that's not enough money to actually do the things that we need to do for those schools. And so, that is that's why I alluded to the fca to give us a kind of idea of what we're looking at in terms of costs. So to put an item in

016the dfp where we don't really know what the costs would be, I would, have to do some investigation as to see how much that is. Because by doing construction and putting an actual permanent, structure on there, it MAY trigger other things. So that is my concern to get the information from the fca. yep. And I think what has paul is saying, DR. Holness s there are going to be other concerns besides so we can prioritize that to the board. So there is a decision to make the two schools hole since they are receiving additional students based on decision that's were made from repurposing brower estates. I don't know if you want to hold on that item or wait until the fca is complete which they will be bringing back in OCTOBER to understand the full

017fledge on what needs to be done. in the interim, if I can add, DR. Holness, we can look to see if there is a way to obviously, there is a way to estimate what that costs would be for both schools. We don't have that information at this time. okay, so DR. Hepburn, I've made these inquiries months ago. The responses came back. This is not new, we've spoken about this during the period of time when we were having all of these meetings. We spoke about. I went to the schools and I conveyed what they need, so this is something, in terms of now, we're estimating costs to do this when this was known months ago, and the, the I visited the schools I have and we spoke about the different needs that the school have. I

018just have a feeling that this is sort of been pushed out the way, down the road waiting to OCTOBER, and beyond that when these two schools have these needs. When I look at the walkways, we're not asking to put a complete walkway, it's a small extension, how much can that costs? There is a 5.9 million dollars smart allocation that exist outside of the defp. So I hear you, but these are current urgent need, these are kids that will get wet that will have to be out there in the different type of weather condition and we're saying, let's delay until we see what the results are in OCTOBER and which school have that need and that need, I don't think that is being really responsive to this community. That our decision have impacted. So I would

019prefer and I'm going to make a motion and I would prefer that it is there, and if it's not there besinger then I have another motion. I think these issues are urgent. We made a big decision, we closed and repurposed broad estates, we made a big commitment to mlk and plantation, and we delayed and said, let's see what happens. I don't think I can go back to that community is say that it, so I understand, and I can understand how much an extension to a walkway costs. And having made this inquiry months ago, why didn't we have a costa nal sis then? Why are we opening school now and those schools have those needs? And that community should wait for the costa nal sis and wait to see if we have the money when we

020can put it in a defb and if that does not work, then we can look at a smaller allocation. So I think it's a important so I would like to make a motion and if that motion fails I would like to make another motion. At least I can say to that community I tried. Because this board made a decision to transition their students to these two schools. And we also made the commitment that we're going to take care of those two schools in the coming year. At least I would rather try and fail than sit back here and not see it happen. So I'm going to make a motion that mlk and plantation elementary is included to receive permanent covered walkway that's is needed. second. Do I have to do that here? Any public comment

021on the motion? Board discussion? DR. Zeman? the defp is a fao if-year plan, so if it's taken literally, there is not a lot of urgency, which means it will be done in the next five years. So we need to be more precise in the motion if we want to do things urgently. I'm always concerned about equity across 239 campuses. I think that -- they're going to schools that are going to get special attention from us in many many regards. But I would like to spend our money where there is the greatest need for facilities. And so I'm not sure how I feel about this motion but I just want to be precise if the motion is taken literally, it will not be done urgently, it can be done in 2030. If the maker of the

022motion would like to withdrawal that and if we can vote to withdrawal and we do it, we would have to say specifically which year. And the other thing I can say to our attorney if you do this without knowing the prizes. putting words in the budget plan has no impact. You're pushing on a string if you do that, if you put words in with no dollar figures, all you have is words on the table. So I don't know, if the motion is pertinent now. So it MAY be that this motion is better next month when we bring this back, where we can put a dollar figure in a year and say that. But I think as it's structure, it would not have any impact in terms of urgency, because unless you have any money, you

023don't get construction done. okay, MADAM Chair, okay, DR. Hepburn if it is placed in the fb, what would the motion need to be modified to create a sense of urgency and do you believe if this motion is withdrawn, that you can come back with a costa nal sis that are next defp meeting so the motion can be made again based upon the cost? let me check with MS. Paul. I see a nod but before it comes back, so you can have a more precise motion on the exact costs. okay, and DR. Hepburn, in terms of urgency of getting this done, inclusion into the defp, would I need should this come back, a time frame within my motion to accomplish this? And what is the earliest period, do you think this could be done? so let

024me lean on MR. Shim on the time frame for the defp. Would his motion need to -- go ahead MS. Paul MAY have a answer. so for clarity sake. We previously committed to provide temporary walkways for mlk, not plantation. So if the intent of the board, is for us to provide permanent walkways for both campuses, then, that is a change I just wanted to be clear with that. And, we will do everything we can come back with a estimate of what both campuses would costs for permanent walkways. The concern that I have is just a caution, it MAY be more than just a covered walkway depending in construction, there is always something behind the wall and always something under the ground and whatever. But we will make every attempt to come back and provide the

025board with an estimate of what both campuses would cost for permanent walkways. question to the time frame of DR. Holness's motion, does he need to add a time to make sure it's more expedited than other items? it just depends, if we're, if we're tapping into the 5.9 million dollars, that money is there in the smart program. So that is something that, we could utilize for those for those two campuses. I think that was part of a previous discussion of keeping that money within the ecosystem. So, that will be a, opportunity to do that. okay. So what we can do DR. Holness, once we get this data we can talk off line with the team and give you a conservative range on timeline, so you can make a better motion to move forward. okay. So and

026just the point of clarification, DR. Hepburn, you were aware of when I visited plantation elementary, I also expressed the concerns of the walkway so that's not new information, so I'm not sure the information that is transferred, but that concern was already expressed months ago. So everything that I'm bringing forward here, it's not new information, you know, so I just wanted to clarify that point. And I'm going to withdrawal the motion so as to get the added information. But I think it is really important for us to make sure that what we indicate and promise to these communities, when we make changes that significant disrupt the community, that we're actually lipping up to it and we're not dancing around it, it's really concerning. And I know there are district wide issues but this is a little

027district because of the one school that was closed or repurposes that resulted in a impact. So MADAM Chair, I do have more comments but I'm going to hold those to see if others have more comments. okay, I have a question on the item you just brought up. I'm withdrawing the motion. I know, but 's gog to come b bk up. So couplele of quesonon firstst of all, is itit possssible just toto do temporary because we MAY end up, closing one, two or some part of that school where it wouldn't like to work on permanent, question one. MADAM Chair, they're going to install temporary walkway for mlk and plantation. talking about permanent ones. but my motion was to subsequent to that, to install permanent walkways, the question waunz the funding and the motion was to put

028it in the defp or the smart bond should that fail. so the temporary one is in motion. Okay, I missed that. and like MS. Paul said, the reference to using the 59.9 million dollars in the ecosystem and in mlk and plantation, that can be used. But my understanding is that it's separate MR. Shim? I just want to clarify? so the funding is in the dfp, but of course that's in the dfp. MS. Thompson. MADAM Chair, can is finish one thing. DR. Hepburn, when we spoke about this, we were told that the smart bond allocation for broward estates which is 5.9 million dollars will be spent, all of it in the ecosystem. correct. right, so. and I think the board came to some form of consensus on that. okay, so that still stands, correct. yes. all

029right. becca is this topic. yes, mine is clarification, I do recommend that ecosystem that money that was going to go to broward estates, so I'm in agreement with prioritizing that, I know it's coming back. but also I feel like that we're about to go through, this whole process again, like we all need to make notes of what we promised the opportunity and -- community and make sure that that's what we promised the opportunity, otherwise the next edition of redefining is going to fail, because they will say we did it once and we went back on our word. If we promised the ecosystem, the other whatever you call t the money then that's where it needs to go because that's what we said. That's my comment, thank you. MS. Alhadeff is it on this topic. no,

030I just concur with MS. Tam -- thompson, when you promise something, you should not go whack -- back on your word. MR. Holness. if anybody wants to go, I have a few questions. we're not doing different rounds. so as we go to the ecosystem, as thompson as we say, one of the transitioning of student schools that there were no outdoor restrooms available for students participating in pe and require all building doors to remain locked students must be escorted by staff to access indoor restrooms. To address any of the issues there? correct. so supporting that 5.9 million dollars to stay in the ecosystem. For the bathroom, for that bathroom, that I don't know the difficulty in us getting that estimate. So I think we can talk about, there is a water fountain or something out there.

031right, there is a water fountain but no restroom. there is no restroom. so I guess what I'm asking is if you can come back with a cost for that, so I can have a idea how to make a motion bayeds on the 5.9 million dollars shah -- that is available. And like I said, this is nothing new because we have spoken about this in the past. So I want to talk about the district in general, what I have observe is that when I go to different schools, some of them have, playgrounds, with shade structure and some of them do not. As we all know in south florida, it gets pretty hot, right? I believe I requested information and I was told there are 53 out of, I forgot the total number, 300-something with shade structure.

032So DR. Hepburn, district wide, is it possible that going forward, it could make multiple-years, 10-15 years, but can we start two to three schools per year, or whatever the number is, I don't know. But for the safety of our students, it just appears that it each year it gets hotter and hotter. And for these kids to be playing outside without shade and I've seen that all over the district, even in choral springs where I have my business, I see it with the kids playing in the playgrounds. can we move, at least have some developmental plan as to how that can happen over a number of years that can be included in our defp. Some sort of a draft of a plan as to how many can, how it would impact the budget. But we have

033to start somewhere in the safety. I would like to make a motion so vek vote on it. I would like to make a motion that the superintendent bring back to us, a information on the costs and action plan as to how to effectively implement shade structure across the district for our playgrounds in schools. second. public comment on the motion? Board comment on the motion? I think it's a great idea. thank you. okay, all those in favor say aye. niz opposed say no. Motion carries. Anything else, DR. Holness. that's it for me, MADAM Chair. DR. Zeman. MADAM Chair, I have three comments. All of them out of the normal box of capital because what gets me excited is winning back stud toents broward county schools, we're going to do a lot because of our academic success

034and the opportunity to win scholarships. There is a lot of great things going on in broward county. I was asked recently to come into couple of cities that plan to do their own and I thought why would you quit -- broward county is really their best choice for public education. I would like to learn more about opportunities to do matching funds with donors with donor corporation wz municipalities? That we had a donation, so to me athletic is an area where we have competitive advantage, it's every one's football team, we really have great athletics in our schools and we compete head to head and dominate in terms of athletics and I would like to double down on that. Can we look at what we can put into that that would be a matching fund for our

035nonprofit that want to build athletic facilities with us. ?O. Let me clarify in and we can definitely move in that direction. You want to know what specific amount we can utilize for matching funds. I just think we need to have a pull of funds where we talk about organizations but in particular sports team that we have a way to make them feel better. so if I MAY, so we don't come back with a a number that MAY not please the board. If you want to throw out a number. I did. what was that? ten million a year. So if you can make a motion. I just love opportunities to double down on what we're great at. We know how to do athletics really well. They love donate whening there is a matching fund. i would

036like to think about that. It's a just a follow-up for our next discussion. The second is, we talked earlier about really excited opportunity to invest dollars and I love that idea. I noticed that it would keep us close to the 10 percent fund balance if we spent money in the capital side and be a landmark decision but and I'm just commenting for right now. I hope it comes back where we're not busting the 10 percent, fund balance if in fact the board decides to do that next week which I hope they do. The third point is, where is it in our policy that we have 10 percent fund balance in the capital account? DR. Hepburn? MR. Shim? it's written in the fund balance policy, I forgot what policy number that is. It's 30, well anyway,

037I can look it up, it's in the back. no worries but it's in the policy, we have one for the general fund and then a separate one for the capital fund? right. I just want to make sure that everybody understands that, we have roughly $500 million. So we have fund balances in case there is fluctuations in the mub so we can write out the fluctuations. On the operating side, I understand that we have to pay teachers and supplies and software and all of that to run our schools. on the capital side, we can stop building stuff for a while. It's not going to impact. So hopefully when that policy comes back, we can think about it or at least accept it as a good guiding principal but not the same. Let me ask this as

038a question. Does the state do anything if we go under ten percent on the capital side? DR. Hepburn? MS. Batista? Or MR. Shim, I know we go to urgency with take over for general fund, I'm not sure about capital. no, there is no requirement. thank you. for the capital reserve. thank you. Earlier we talked about that MRS. A maximum in food nutrition budget. There is a 3 percent which is a statutory law, and you run a risk at that point. At one percent, you're guaranteed take over but at three, you get nasty emails and threatening mails. And I get that, but interests no state law that says ten percent, terrific. I'm just, I'm looking forward to hearing more about a matching fund, I think it's different than what we've done before thank you also very

039common in the donation world. People want something back, they want their name, they want a name on the wall all those things are possible but we got to figure out a way to prime that pump. I've seen districts raise $300 million from corporate donors a year. dallas texas is now over $500 million they raced from corporations. Broward education foundation, great organization, they raised six. So anyway we can get them to start this, I would like the ten million dollars number but let's see what kind of what the staff thinks. Very excited about using capital money to win back operating money, that's very exciting. And when the policy comes back, I want to think about how we word that so people understand that there is no state mandate for that and the consequences are you just

040slow down but when you have $500 million in the bank, the fund balance is not of great concern in my mind, thanks chair. thank you MS. Thompson. thank you, chair. I just had a few question and some comments when are suppose to get our facilities assessment back? OCTOBER, remember the last workshop that was the reports were in draft forms and klain al the data and finalized with the clean report in OCTOBER, we'll bring that back to the report. is there any way to speed that up we're about to vote on a plan and redefining school workshop next week and we're just expectinged to make decisions when we don't have the full information. I'll caution about speeding them up. By doing things that expedient see in this process, does not boed well for us, we want

041to make sure that they're thorough they're looking at a lot of information and I know MS. Paul's team is work also working with them to make sure everything is accurate and correct. so while I understand that, there is a lot of things happening in tallahassee, so if we cannot speed up that information, what is the plan to make sure that we're making timely decisions after we have that information? so it will be very timely, we have a workshop next week, DR. Wanza's team is scheduling out what those other workshops r there will be another one in AUGUST but, the information that you received from the fca in OCTOBER will give the board enough time to start considering some of the decision that's we need to do for some schools that MAY have to be closed

042and repurposed. for the 26-27. for the 26-27 school year. You'll have ample time and a lot of information to help facilitate decisions about what we need to do. in that same va in as DR. Zeman mentioned there are cities considering taking over our schools. How is that impacting how we're deciding on projects? so I've been through this before in other school districts, there is nothing wrong with having those discussions in their commission meetings and what their communities. We have to push forward knowing what we need to do to continue to be the best and make shows hard decisions. If a city or municipalities, decides to take on the challenge they're going to communicate with us, how when and the process. So I know there is uncertainity in a lot of that, but, they are within

043their right to explore but we have to move forward with what we need to do as a district too and not pause on anything based on their conversation. and I fully agree that they're in their right to do whatever however we're making decisions to where we're investing capital funds and there is another city talking about potentially converting their schools, I think that needs to weigh in our decision if it's between a or b and a is planning on looking into converting schools, I think that needs to be a factor in our decision-making in where we are investing is basically what I'm saying. and I agree, just a reminder of key point that MR. Shim mentioned, and so mention too, ththe defp cacan bemendnd.. Ll amdeded because th fca, you'll get that information in OCTOBER, so

044there will be some key decision points that MAY change board member's finds of where we're putting our money. So I expect many amendments moving forward once the fca information comes out and if any cities or maou unicipalities want to take a challenge. and I wanted to say that out in the universe to every one is thinking that. And my last comment, while I appreciate that we're able to use capital funds to do innovative things like vr head sets, I also think that our capital funds need to be invested in our capitol buildings and I appreciate the beautification priorities, while I've been doing the district too beautification, this is something that has been sorely lacking for a long time, while I can find donors for mull -- mulch and flowers painting our schools would revitalize our

045entire building. I want to be caution to make sure that we're using cap it will funds on actual projects, creating bathrooms, fixing bathrooms because if you've ever gone to one of my high schools, they definitely need their bathroom as dressed. And so that's my comment. Thank you for prioritize iting not facelifts because beautification dims, bow phase lists that will shall did facelifts that will files especially in my community. Thank you. thank you. MS. Alhadeff. so my first question is with the impact fees wha. Was the impact fees in 2025? DR. Hepburn? MR. Shim? it's approximately 6 million so far. 6 million, so how did we jump from 6 approximately to 12.1 million? DR. Hepburn. you're referencing local? uh-huh. local sources, impact fees. so the impact fees, for this, for 2025, is through quaertz so we

046have not collected all of it yet. That usually comes in a little late. But the amount that you're referring to is not just impact fees it WILLs includes other revenue. So for that year, I believe it's 8 million that we have budgeted for impact fees in that line and the rest is interest in other revenue. for 2025 or 2026? for 2026, the line you referenced. it says 12.1. right, so that's not all impact fees is what I'm saying. That includes other funding sources such as interest and other local. okay. it will helpful to put that all in there so it's just very transparent. okay. my next question is regards to the intercom systems, it says leasing, is that something we've always done? Yor we're leasing intercoms? DR. Hepburn. MR. Shim. we've leased intercoms and this

047year we're doing it again, it helps us spread the costs. and if you're weed the outcome of whether leasing or buying and the upgrades, so you think it's bet tore lease it? yes, it helps us to afford other things in the year instead of paying that larger impact. They're long lasting, so we can finance that. okay. the portables 2.5 million, are you adding portables or demolishing portables? DR. Hepburn? go ahead, MR. Shim. That's demolishing. that's demolishing. okay. Again, just say demolishing cause it's clearer. The fbl payment for led lighting upgrades, can somebody speak to that, so we're getting money back? MR. Shim or MS. Paul? I would have to check into that but I don't think we're getting money back. MR. Doerset are you available? I know we're going to experience a rate increase, a

048significant one. good evening. My name is janet project manager with the environmental conservation office. And the way to perform this contract working, we have been using this in the past is called guarantee savings and it's continue the energy saving part of it. So the fpl, we do have fpl rebates and some of the projects. And but, to be specific on the question, this performance contract is guaranteed savings that we get the savings from the actual, improvements that we're doing with the lighting and the water, city plumbing fixtures. So we get in the rebates and cost savings from those improvements. that's great. So we're getting money back? in the long run, yes, we do get the money back. yeah, we don't get a check, you know, they don't dop but we get the benefit of the

049cost saving. and it's not only the benefit of the improvements but it helps the beautification because we improved the lighting inside and outside and it helps with the safety of the campus and we had great feedback from the schools that have received these improvements going to five years already. that's great. So we should look to expand that? yes, we're trying to. We're looking future faces throughout the dfp, and 5 and 9. okay, and then I would connect that to some solar paneling , make we can get money back on that. We were, couple of board meetings ago, we were suppose to get a follow-up on that, I have not seen it. Solar paneling, I'm speaking to. we've been shopping around with companies that assist us, I think we found a potential solution, that is MAY

050be unorthodox. I like that outside of the box thinking. On page 7, in regards to the playgrounds, in 2025, 2026-, oh wait I think I'm on the next document. There was no money foreplay grounds. That was disappointing. Why? I mean, I've heard the board speak about playgrounds as a priority over and over. Why aren't we funding playgrounds? DR. Hepburn? go ahead MR. Shim. yes, in the dfp, they're already funded. This is just for presentation purposes and it only shows what we're adding but in the dfp, programs are funded in the book. In page, 264, it shows. page 323 in the document. All right so we're funding playgrounds? yes. on page 11, on the radios, I'm struggling with why that money is in later years instead of being pushed up? DR. Hepburn? go ahead, MR. Shim.

051I don't know if I got a response. The question is while we're pushing the response radios. right, why aren't we pushing it to 25-26. The money is in later years. Go ahead, MR. Shim. that's replacement, just a cyclical replacement of the radios, as they break and we need new ones, we're putting funding each year for what we expect them to be replaced. and are think, if there are need a new radio are they being replaced in a timely passion? yes. I know school put if in order to replace radios all the time because they do drop and break. all right, that's good to hear. On page 14, it speaks to consulting with visitor management, are we paying for consulting? DR. Hepburn? MR. Shim? 14. classification as consulting. Or is this getting management systems. just a

052second trying to find the right document. it says, previously we replaced special laptop fors this system as well as a peripheral device. so that helps to upkeep the technology. okay, so that MAY be repairs, maintenance, okay. Thank you. And then on page 25, broad view elementary school, I was flabbergasted with the timeline of their funding for the inside 9 school to be painted. Basically their funding was holted in 2008 and now they're looking to fund them to be painted in the school year of 2029, 2030, I find that totally unacceptable, and this is a school in north lauderdale, 42 percent free and reduced lunch. I move to push the funding for broad view elementary school to 2025-2026. second. public comment on the motion? Board member comment on the motion? I would, I would say there

053is more than broad ways that we can do that for. I appreciate and I don't disagree with you, but when you look through their, you know, we asked, I think everybody got it when I asked for a list of when schools have been painted last and what the order of painting is moving forward, cause, you know, there is a number of them. So I don't mind doing one, but i think everybody could pick a school and ask for it to be moved up. So I just, have concerns about that. DR. Holness. thank you, MADAM Chair. So I appreciate board member I'm sorry, board member alhadeff making this motion. So I would like board member alhadeff to expound on the concern. I did ear 86 percent free and reduced lunch. So if you don't mind MADAM

054Chair, if board member alhadeff could provide further rational as to why we should prioritize this specific school, maybe there is something else that an out liar or that would necessitate this school given immediate attention, because I think the goal that if a school is looking pretty, deplorable because of the continue of the paint, then we need to address it, right? If you can expound on that, board member alhadeff, I would appreciate it and then I have a question for the superintendent, MADAM Chair. sure, I would have to go in and take pictures and I can proof to you the painting does not look good. It's scraped, and I don't think it's acceptable. I don't think it's acceptable to wait 21 years to wait to paint a school. And I'm not saying that there are other

055schools that need this type of work, I'm sure there is and painting needs to be more of a priority for all of our schools inside and out, and I said that repeatedly that the board needs to put the funding in the right place for our students. And you know, this school in north lauderdale is a title 1 percent, 86 free and reduced lunch. It's 175,000 and I think it's important that we prioritize this school to move up the funding to 2025-2026. okay and board member alhadeff, is it both externally and internally? this is, but this is this funding is specifically for interior. okay and from all of schools in your district, would you say this stands out as one of the worse that require? definitely. okay, so DR. Hepburn and thank you, MADAM Chair, I

056do have some questions. Can you tell us, the process or what is the, the determine ant as to when a school needs to be painted, is it just based on a time frame? And if it is, that's concerning because analysis could be better. I'm not saying time is a factor but needs can also be important. You can have a school that has not been painted for 15 years and it looks great and you can have another school that has been painted five years ago, and it needs painting. So we're trying to improve he is esthetic feel in order to attract. I'll let you answer the question, and then I think as a district, we need to look at all of our schools, not just in terms of the framework that we come up with in

057terms of time if that's the only factor. But do a needs analysis that is extensive to determine which schools need immediate attention. Because we're always talking about attracting students back to our district because we're losing them and we pride ourselves on academic achievement and that's great. But ease esthetic appeal. If a restaurant that's a great restaurant and taste good, and it's dirty, I MAY not shop there, right. Thank you tell us, what the determinant we have in place as to when the school needs to be paint asked how we can change that. so I'm going to pass on to MS. Paul but so save her time before she gets to the meat and potatos of the question. There was no previous process so MS. Paul has been creating a schedule in making sure that we're

058painting schools. well thank you for that. Superintendent hepburn. Yes, we did walk into this. We have a lot of needs across the district, it's obvious, MS. Hixon asked me the exact question in terms of how we determine who comes first in the painting and you're right, DR. Holness, you cannot do it just based on date. There are a lot of variables that go into that. One of the great things about having fc done in this comprehensive way, is that it gives us actual data in terms of the condition of the school and not just data but people walking and looking and touching our schools. to determine, kind of what the need is, but we look at level factors, of course we had to start from somewhere and part of that is to date and there

059is nothing more than irritating that you can imagine and having a happen painted school or where they come in and they paint one wall and another wall looks like crap and so forth. So what I asked is for MR. Dore set to come wup a comprehensive plan on how to papat our r schools. Ghghnonow wee e inin a a 15-yr schedule part that is the fact that we have missed a couple of bond cycles that the school district this size would have. So when it takes us 11 years to build a bond that means we missed a cycle in dwaoen. So these conditions are the result of that. And so MR. Doseret, if you want to provide your experience and wisdom on this subject, I would appreciate it. thank you for that. Again, good afternoon,

060board member and board chair just a little bit of history with painting itself, back in 2008. We remember the economic down turn, the area hit hardest was the paint ing. We had an entire interior painting team of people. We had to let them all go. We lost 40 painters back in 2008 and never recovered from that. So the crew that we have right now, we're trying to paint, what we can interior and exterior and we're trying to maintain a schedule. Right now MS. Paul was generous to say we were on a 15-year cycle. It's a lot more than that, right. And we're trying to play catch up, and we're in the middle of playing catch up. So some of the schools, MAY, they're lagging behind, no question about it. Exterior and interior painting. But specifically,

061we shut down interior painting and only did touch up. MS. Paul came in of trying to revitalize the whole program and that's what we're trying to do. We're trying to start from a base line to try to bring it back up. We're trying to get this done through the, the, the defp, I see there is a lot of attention towards interior and exterior painting this year. Thanks to your recommendations to make this happen. I think that's a, that's a tremendous idea. Our schools really need it. So I'm looking forward to getting to work to get some of this stuff done. So anything that we can do to enhance exterior and interior we're all for that. and if I can add, the restriction south side funding. We have money set aside, but again, it's not sufficient

062to everything that we need to do. So we're getting our eyes on it. They will give us the data to give us a holistic look at the district but we have to start somewhere and this is the attempt. I'm accustomed to having somewhere around a 7-year program where you paint the whole school we're nowhere near that but this is an a tem tonight start to the process. And we can accelerate that, part of it is putting money aside as we see it in the dfp, we no longer have the resources that we used to have. So we do a lot of work through the contracts. So we will continue the process and then I am hopeful that in the next few years, we'll have a bond to actually speed up that process. But the fundamental

063of running a maintenance program, we're at the base point at the fundamentals getting visibility over our systems. okay, MADAM Chair, I would like to finish up. DR. Hepburn, what I heard here, a cup of concerns that seems to create challenges in terms of painting the schools, you have as mentioned that there is shortage of stuff and defunding issue. board member, saying this one really stands out and I think it needs priority. I don't think it's favorism. I think it's saying give that district priority over others, because I think all of us have an equal opportunity to do that. If I go into district 5 and I see a school full of graffiti, I'm going to ask for the board to paint it. So I don't see a problem and if it stands out and it's

064an extreme, then I appreciate the motion coming forward and that's why I seconded it. But overall, DR. Hepburn, we need to move in that direction to be able to have an action plan to paint our schools and have this esthetic appeal district wide. I can list ten off the head of my head, that have paint peeling off. I would like to see us finish the facilities, I always say the letters wrong, and because they're looking at the district across the board, and they'll give us the priorities in order. I don't know, I'm not saying that broad view does not need it, so does crystal lake, they just got painted and the paint started feeling. There is a lot of different things there. We can do one and someone else will say how about this school.

065We're paying somebody what order we should be doing things in. Although, I think they all need to be painted now, I just would rather wait to see the facility condition assessment before we start making decisions like this. Oh yeah, MS. Leonardi? thank you and on this point, you know, multipleity itorations have been shared, and whether it was last painted. But I guess my concern is, when I'm visiting schools, principals will say, you know, we need our school painted, I have schools where paint is peeling off the walls. I'll share the most resent schedule, with the principal and then, the schedule changes. So like, there is I guess two issues one is most obvious which is the schedule that keeps changing or there are delays and I understand waiting for the fca, but it's, got to

066be frustrating as a principal to continue to be told different things about when their schools are going to be painted and two, like I don't think that, I don't mind that I'm the person communicating that to the principal. But I don't think that that really is my role. And I know that in visiting schools, just generally talking to them about facilities and when they put work orders in, there is not a lost communication that goes to the principal so they're waiting until somebody just shows up. And I know that staff and MS. Paul is really worked hard to try to improve that but whatever happens with the painting and the fca, I would hope that we're over communicate width principal so that they have clear expectations on when they can expect their schools to be

067painted. Thank you. thank you. Okay. So let's take a vote on the motion to move broad view -- I'm sorry, I had my hand raised. oh okay, go ahead. thank you, sorry I didn't want to MISS My opportunity I've been quiet. I've been absorbing everything that my colleagues have shared and what sticks in my mind, is promises made, promises kept, especially the ones we've made to municipalities and communities before school starts. It's not really good look on the district and we as a board memebers if we go out there and talk with the community and get them partnering with us and suddenly the brakes come on and it gets pumped to OCTOBER or so, it's very very important and I caution, every one there, that we need to make sure that we're promising something to

068the community and DR. Holness, I'm 100 percent with you. That we, we really follow through on that because our word, it's our bond and if it gets broeng, we already have a rough couple waoerz that we've been going through here. So we're now, working our way through the better board, better staff, and we're moving forward. However, some of the lapses in communication, and especially with the partnerships with our municipalities are disappointing, especially with, communities that have safety issues. And they reached out to the district to work and partner and you know, really, make sure that the burden of financial aspect and the work would be cojoining. So I really caution that we really need to make sure that we follow through on the promises that we made. I also wanted to offer, wanted piece of

069information about the exterior. I had wonderful conversation wz -- MS. Rupert, I don't mean to cut you off. We were specifically on the motion that MS. Alhadeff made about moving broad view to the 2025 school year. So that's we're on right now for the comments. I'll put you on the list for general comment but do you have something specific to her motion so we can vote on it. no, I'll just wait for the rest of my list. yeah, you'll be next. Okay, all those in favor of the motion to move broad view to the school year 2025 say aye. aye. all those opposed say no. no. No. I guess we need a roll call. alhadeff. yes. bulman. yes. cervera. Hixon. no. leonardi. no. Rupert. no. zeman. no. I'm sorry, I'm missing someone, thompson, that was

070a yes, yes? 5-4 passes. thank you. MS. Alhadeff, did you have anything else? Okay. Okay, MS. Rupert, I'm sorry that I cut you off, continue. wow, so that is the same, sorry, go back to atkins and and aecom they were willing to work with us to paint and bring plants at the beginning of the year. I'll ask the superintendent have we partnered with them to be ready for school opening on the things that we can accomplish in the next two weeks? So we're ready to welcome our students that MAY not have had enough time to paint or move bus lanes, but there has to be something that will absolutely offer more safety and better esthetics when people are seeing our school for the first time. I don't know if that is MS. Paul has reached

071out to them or even knew about this, just I would like to hear from the superintendent on this? DR. Hepburn? thanks for the question, MS. Rupert. This is my first time hearing about the past opportunities, so I don't think MS. Paul has heard about these either and has acom offered them to us, so we'll have to follow-up with them to find out what they've done in the past and what they're willing to do to assist outside of the boundaries of the contract. right and I honestly, says that it was during a management change, so it was not the most resent program manager but it was the woman who came beforehand but that should not matter, it was them partnering with us to make our schools better. That's definitely an area that we need to tap

072into over the next few days, so if that's possible to get plans or whatever MAY be. And it should be a welcome experience, I know it's 1,000 degrees there and we cannot work very much with that, however, we can have a plan outside or have something that welcomes everybody in. Because we need to actually embrace the community, because, we need them to embrace their families with us and I think they, they need to see a difference from what we've had that has been status quo. So I'm going to go back to promises made, promises kept especially those made before the school was to suppose to start and I think we can do a better level of communicating to the community and especially if, you've got communities and municipalities that are getting phone calls from citizens

073in their group they're getting the questions that they need to answer and they're waiting on us. I generally, can't stress this enough that we need to make sure that those promises are kept or it's going to be a look status quo and we cannot afford that. We are competitive, we are district with a heart, and I think that we need to really embrace the community like people that we are. So MR. Superintendent. DR. Hepburn. duelly noted, MS. Rupert and we will follow-up with aecom so see if mechanic mac entire -- MR. Mac entire can get ahold her. I appreciate. By also mean about the municipalities as well. absolutely. so we need time lines and we need yesterday. So. Thank you so much. thank you. Anything else MS. Rupert? no, the another questions were answered for

074me. thanks, MS. Bulman. thanks chair, I'll keep it short. I want to thank the team for putting this together, MR. Shim, who I think made a great job with us and remained very calm and dedicated to the cause even when getting a lot of vigorous questioning. So I very much appreciate that. And to follow-up with what MS. Thompson was following a earlier, I agree we don't want to rush a facilities assessment, but the timing and how this is all going to fit together at some point is slightly, concerning. So I'm looking forward to seeing the redefining presentation and I hope that while we're waiting for the facilities assess action we're working on things that we v transportation, how we're streamlining programs even if we don't know what facilities is going to be housing what, at

075least we've got that going and that's all I have to say because it's late. Thanks. thank you, I will finish us up since I'm the last one on the list. I had a couple of questions also on appendix a and I would like to make some motions. So on page 3 of appendix a, it talked about h-vac controls and the reason is to address relative humility and occupant comfort and increase energy efficiency o. So when I asked about, is this causing A.C. Issues in the school and why is it staggered and why aren't we taking care of that if it needs, it feels like it should be taken care of in the first year, and the answer is staggered apprproach waadopted because of available e offunding g t staf with accecelerate the projts at the

076board's request. So I guess before I make a motion, I need to ask MS. Paul, what would that look like because if I'm not mistaken, there are seven schools and it's 700,000 each school would we have enough to do all schools in the 2025-26 years? it's a combo question, MR. Shim also look at thing capital budget to see if we can accomplish that? go ahead, MR. Shim. Do you want to add to it? so that would be moving 5 million dollars to the first year. And directly at this pointsinger you have 53. What was it? 53.1 million dollars in the capital reserve so that would bring you down below what, that's just, the only, the impact that it would have. Bring you down below the so percent of millage revenues. if I can join in,

077the availability is to control air remotely, it's not that we don't have ac in the schools, it's just that in order to regulate the temperature from a computer, you have to have those controls in place. And, and what we're trying to do is automated so that it can function as a lot of our newer schools do where you can control the temperatures and turn it off and turn on it on remotely. That's the intent of put ing the controls in the schools and upgrading the controls in the schools. so the issue is not that in a school, one area of the school is going to be 50 degrees and the other is going to be 95. it's a combination of things, this is just the thing the thing a I'm talking b is having a

078thermostat that I can control from my computer across the district. That's the direction we're going to. We do have a h vac issues where if there is mechanical issue, that is not this. so to just control it by computer costs 700,000 per school. so when you look at the size of the school. my concern is students being being comfortable in the classroom, we just spent four million dollars in one school for that issue. It read to me like a similar issue, that's why I'm asking. MS. Johnson? through the chair, I want to add to this t you have a policy that it limits, you guys from moving and making decisions, you're going to violate our own policies. I would think that you look at your policy first and see why it's in place. Is it

079essential now to make those changes. We say, it's going to violate the policy and then you want to violate the policy, we need to wonder why that policy that you adopted in the first place and is it reveling today, we need to move forward so we won't be talking about a policy that stopping you guys from making good decision as a whole. thank you, and DR. Hepburn that's the plan to bring that policy. Great, I'm not going to make a motion on that one then. But page 449 similar idea. There is 20 schools that have a flooding issue. And again it's staggered. Was identified due to on standing water, folgt 2023 flooding event. It's 60,000 dollars, I guess it's $200,000 altogether cause there is two pieces to that. So again my question was if it's

080a flooding issue, there are 20 schools in this particular thing. And then there is 12 schools that need servicemanagement repair. Why are we spreading that over five years if we have the 1,000 year flood yearly? How do we? I would like to have a better idea if there is air conditioning issue, maybe other things that could be shifted to those later years and we need to address these in an earlier part of the year because it's just like painting is important, immediately. These are things that are going to cost us money later, because if the school floods, we have to pay for the flooding. It makes sense to do that at the front end. so if I MAY. go ahead, MS. Paul. and I know MR. Shim raised his hand too. MR. Shim, gu first

081and I'll follow. hi I just wanted point out that it was right over five years but we've consolidated that into the first three years, so I'll differ to MS. Paul for the rest. thank you. What I was going to say is that this is what we can reasonably do on our side on our property. But one of the things that, that was very powerful was the green committee's report and working closely with the green committee to help with these kind of, issues and also working with the municipalities examine the county. -- and the county. We can do part of it, but most of it, I would imagine is not necessarily on our side, it's a comprehensive approach that we need to work with the city and county and the green committee to resolve a lot

082of issues. It can be as complicated as working with the city. So it's not a one-stop shop answer. I think it's a and I think the board, also appreciated the green committee bringing the input in. This is a direction, this is a stark but this is by no means the final solution to mitigating flooding in our campuses. thank you. So I'll wait, I won't do a motion on that. But the last sentence was very important. So that means if they flood, the kids are not going to be able to be on their campus, I think this is a huge problem. So if there is a way to condense that to less than three years, and you know, we can see after we talk about the policy if that's something that the board wants to do.

083I have two more things and I'll be done. Quick question, how many schools still need outdoor external speakers because on page 47 of 49, it said, that we were, there are additional enhancements and it talked about external speakers but if I'm not mistaken, I don't think every outdoor speakers. And I requested MS. Paul this question already so I don't know if they have the answer for that. go ahead. Chief. micro gregory, chief officer, we've had this conversation in the last few weeks. We got some inside on the last year. Study and assessment on safety on campuses, we determined 111 campuses that had identified external speakers as a challenge or problem, we have a project with 65 of those currently being, installed and reimmediated to function outside. And with this upcoming year funding we'll continue that

084so we can eliminate all of that. thank you, because if I'm not mistaken, we were waiting until the 2029 school year in this defp to address that? And I would like to see that done like next year. Trying to find it. the numbers changed after I did my thing so I'm trying to find where it went. go ahead MR. Shim. through the chair. Intercoms are funded through the plan and maybe it's a little a confusion the way attachment is. So what has been funded in dfp, on page 265, it shows that, in the prior version and that's what is being carried over is funding of ten million dollars in each year, through 2028 and then after that, in 2029, there is 5 million and another 5 million in 2030. So it shows continuation of funding

085for intercom projects. okay. So when it says additional enhancements what does that mean? that means continuation funding for fiscal year 29 and 30 but we already have funding for 26-27 and 28. okay. Thank you. And my last thing and two things. Information and that's the project actually started. Or when the paperwork was done and several in our projects as you know, that that they MAY have started in 2015 but the actual work MAY not have started three, four years later. that's fine but that's the follow-up I would like to have. right, I did more investigation. we need to clean that up to make sure that we did a great job last year because there were things that were 2012 and a lot of things ago. A lot of ada restrooms and again if there were

086on the 2015 defp and we're in 2025, we cannot just say, we need to have a follow-up so I appreciate the list of schools that I gave you. If you can just let us know that they're still active. well some of the ada projects were carved out and the other piece of the projects were done and that's why you see. But I have your list and we'll go through and give you specific details. thank you and then the last one, we had a long discussion about two particular schools but I will and I told you I would bring it up again. We as a board talked about covered walkways not just portable, I understand about the funding. But we did have a conversation and agreed that we wanted look at what that was. You'll mention

087that will come in the facilities assessment, I look forward to that. I just want to point out we as a board said, we wanted to see what schools needed covered walkway so babies are not standing in the rain or the hot sun while they're waiting for the bus or their car to come. So it just was disappointing. so, so there are two faucets of it. One is where there is no covered walkway period and the other part is we have something called loges here, that's a new word I learned, they're made out of wood and they're rotting, so we have a two-fold problem. We have, nonexistent covered walkways and because of the way the school was designed and then we have covered walkways that are deteriorating and have not been touched. It's at the fca

088will provide us with that information. okay, thank you. Okay. All those in favor of approving this item item 1 tentative say aye. as amended because we had a amendments. Those opposed say no, the item passes unanimously. The scheduled order business for -- chair. when you're done, I have something to share. okay, go ahead, because I cannot adjourn until you. okay, thank you. It's a pretty big issue. I believe chair that no school board can commit funds of broward county, that's correct? no individual. and I also believe the superintendent cannot commit public money without approval of koubt' school board. I believe that's correct. we need to think about that. Because if somebody is at a town hall meet anding somebody wants to talk about ecosystem, it does not come here as a item it's not real.

089And that's why nora rupert was going to talking about. The commitment would be to bring to this board to commit board. So the action that I'm going to ask is when did we submit to spending the money 5.9 at a school board meeting. If we're going to commit money, if we cannot done that, I think we can bring it back here and get it done. But I think we have to be careful what we're going to do on repurposing, I agree that if we agree to something it's a commitment. But we to manage the sanctity. There is been a lost loose conversations here today that make me very uncomfortable to what we have committed to any school or parent or any ecosystem. So I'm going to ask you MR. Superintendent to get some kind of

090formal record when we voted and if we haven't, I'll bring an item to normalize that because it's a good idea. But we have to be careful how we say how we're going to do something. We only have authority to bring items. I can answer the question now, there was no formal vote, there was discussion during redefining especially after right before, or right after that vote. A discussion by the board and however we define consensus, whatever the definite nation MAY be. The board came to formal consensus. and I will bring that item next tuesday for us to vote on and make that formal. But we cannot say that we've commited because of something we said at a workshop. It has to be voted on by majority or you cannot commit funds. chair, there was a vote

091on JANUARY 22. I stand corrected. I was pretty sure we voted. and motion was made business leonardi seconded by MS. Hixon and carried, I recommend to allocate the cost saving we will experience from repurpose broward estates to establishing early learning center, that they have the discussion to use the funding to assist to funding of students. This plan will be developed by MARCH 2025. does it say specific about 5.9? it does not say specifically the 5.9 but it does say the cost saving. I believe there was a vote on actual number. we'll do our research. that's why I asked. I think it was when we voted to turn broward estates to early learning. that's great, I just want to make sure that we did that and what the vote was on, if we did it great.

092If we didn't, let's bring an item back. can you give us that follow-up. that's quick, we can research. MS. Alhadeff? thank you, DR. Zeman for bringing that up. You know, to pivot off that, it's important fofousto as boarard mebers at we are mindndful going into communities, having solo conversations regarding something that could or can't happen at a school. Thank you. thank you. Okay. MADAM Chair. just a final comment. So I appreciate DR. Zeman's response and I appreciate board member thompson providing some added information on what we voted on. But what I can tell you, is, we had a very robust discussion and also several community meetings including broward estates elementary, drug dill ard high school where we told the community that the 5.9 million dollars smart allocation from broward estates will be spent in that

093ecosystem which included blantation elementation, mlk and broward estates. So MR. Hepburn, when you get the information back, you've been to those meetings as well, we visited them many times, some push backs as well. So I was, the board member, pioneers some of those efforts. If it's not existent, then, certainly as DR. Zeman said, then a motion will be made to put it in stone writing, because we did make that commitment to the community, I thought it was understand, but if we need to have a motion that confirms, I don't believe that one dollar should be spent elsewhere because that's what we committed to. thank you. thank you, the scheduled ordered business of bro -- broward school board meeting has been completed. I now adjourn this meeting. Have a great rest of your

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