Special School Board Meeting - PART ll - Jul 29, 2025

001please stand by. Please stand by. has on staff and not paying attention and if that is the case, are the school staff properly train should somebody walking around on school grounds to be able to identify those individuals? so anybody that is walk on campus must have a badge. So if you went through a single point of entry, you must have a visitor's badge. If you are not a district employee. Fur district employee you must have a badge. All staff are able to identify anybody who does not have proper identification and they're directed to go back to the single point of entry but I'll have DR. Lozano add anything that I missed. thank you. DR. Lozano. DR. Holness, includes office manager and as part of their day long training they were reviewing the protocols for our

002office manager to see meet with their clerical staff and front office staff to ensure that all schools are using their protocols at the front office location. We also have again for our schools with metal detection we have staff that are also assigned to that front office area to assist with monitor because there are times that there are multiple individuals coming through at the same time. So our areas of security manager as part of our realignment are seven compliance ASMs is also now part of their visit, our revisit to ensure our schools are implementing our protocols with fidelity. okay, so I have a couple f questions regarding tha. The assumption is that all visitors come through the front office, correct, that's usually point of entry. that's not an assumption, it's protocol. that's protocol. Okay, is there

003any situation where it possible that somebody goes through the front office and somehow gets on the school ground without based upon staff concerns and get on campus. Could that be possible? And if that is, what is the next step beyond that and are there on going training for staff, to ensure that anyone walking around that they can easily acto ensure that that person is there. there is no opportunity for anybody to get past our visitor management system without checking in and following protocols. okay, I'll give you an example DR. Lozano. That I have, and I'm asking these questions because I'm making sure that we're foolproof. I don't know if this is the case now, but you have situation where a staff MAY be leashing the parking lot and being let in and out of the

004gate, right. So if somebody is coming to say a parking lot and look well dressed and look like they belong and say I'm a staff and you have a security opening the gate and so on. are the security staff fully aware of what they need to do to ensure that somebody does not say come through a back gate posing as a teach or or staff that kind of thing. that's part of, during summer we reviewed all training protocols with our specialist and monitor and our managers to ensure all our staff are informed of those protocols so they're not asking an individual or allowing an individual to go to a secondary point to access the campus unless that's their purpose for the milk truck that MAY be delivering milk to the school. okay, thank you DR.

005Lozano. thank you, all those in favor of item 5 say aye. aye. any opposed say no. Motion passes unanimously. The next item is item 7, can I have a motion and a second. Moved by MS. Thompson seconded by MS. Leonardi. Any public comment? no man? MR. Cervera. thank you, MADAM Chair. In reviewing this particular policy, specifically roman number 2, 7 subsection e, there is a this is under the general rule section. There is a revision that sets subsection 7 notes room assignment for overnight lodging if not separated by biological sex by birth. My question, is there a nair I don't where students are taking overnight field trips where boys and girls are sleeping in the same room for these overnight field trips? DR. Hepburn. that not I'm aware of, we're pretty tight about making sure

006we're celebrating students by sex at birth and following protocol about how to inform parents if there is a concern. so if we're celebrating this kids by sex for the overnight portion of the field trip, why do we have a provision that we document room assignments. The way I read this could indicate in which a male and a female student will be sleeping in the same room we just have to document it. If it's not occurring, why do we have this policy? MS. Cervera, can you point me to which one? I'm looking at the clean version. Of policy and it's under roman numeral 2, 2, a 7 subsection e. got you. so thank you, MADAM Chair, the only thing that I can share with the board recording this issue is pursuant to 6-a-10.05 which is field

007trip supplemental program is a specific rule from the department of education, and one of the things that is listed here it says, that we must have district procedures, must require signed parent or guardian permission forms for field trip that include at a minimum the following information and the items listed are the nature of the field trip, the data and time of the field trip and specific location and type of mode of transportation and whether room assignment for overnight lodging are not separated by sex at birth. are you referring to the admin code? yes. so we copied the language directly from the state's administrative code. correct. is there a policy in this district regarding the overnight rooming situations of males and female students other than this section that I guess we're copying from the admin code

008regarding whether or not males can be sleeping? there are no other policy related to this, to this topic, no. so this is it, this is all we have? yes. okay. thank you. MS. Bulman? thank you, chair. I saw that too when I was reviewing this, I was thinking it might be one of those situations where every one goes to the museum and spends the night in a group, I don't know if we do that anymore, we used to do that when I was little. The reason it caught my eye was room assignments versus where if you were sleeping where you're not separated, doing one of those communal overnight field trips? Yeah, sleeping in the gym, like you're not putting two people in a hotel room, it's more of a communal thing that you have to

009advise every one that's what they're doing. So maybe room signments, mama too spepefic. MS. Batista. t thankou. that would be more operational issue. DR. Hepburn. I was going to ask MR. Strauss if he had anything to add. south region superintendent, so your question MR. Cervera, there have been in the past possibilities where that would occur and DR. Washington's is in here as well and she might be able to add light as well. However on to the form, if for any situation of that nature that would fall under this part of the policy, on the field trip form itself, it would identify in those individuals that are impacted would agree to it to occurring prior to the field trip happening. So they would be fully aware of the situation and in agreement with the situation. So

010it has occured in the past. on the form that you're talking, MR. Strauss, is it a parental consent form in which the parent has to acknowledge, yes my child is partake ining this overnight khaoel trip which would require them to sleep, overnight at whatever location it is? yes. is it just that? Is there also additional language that would require a parent to opt in or opt out suggesting that your child MAY be sleeping next to a member of the opposite sex during an overnight trip, does that exist anywhere in our forms? DR. Hepburn? DR. Washington or any of the academic team is aware, I don't have the form in front of me. so if I were a parent, I would have no way of knowing, other than the my child is going to be sleeping

011overnight where ever they MAY be for the field trip, I have no way of knowing that any child MAY be put next a member of the office sex during this overnight stay? I was assuming a different question. MR. Strauss is telling you, it is parental consent, the permission slip would go to parent to let them know what is going on and there MAY be some cohabitation whatever the environment MAY be so the parent can consent or not. and that's my question. And maybe the word I was looking for was cohabitation, it's up to the parent that they can sign up. That there would be cohabitation. the form is in the item and that's there. so the parents are given the knowledge and they make the decision whether or not they want their child can proceed

012on the field trip knowing this MAY happen. yes. thank you. all those in favor of item 7 say aye. aye. N.Any opposed say no, motion carries unanimously. Next item is item 11, can I have a motion and a second. so moved. moved and second. Any public comment with item 11. MS. Shoeman but I don't see her in the audience. okay, MR. Cervera. thank you, MADAM Chair. This was an issue that I had addressed earlier and I've had my concerns addressed. So we can take this off. great, thank you. All this in favor of item 11 say aye. aye. any opposed say no. Motion carries unanimously. The next item up is item 14, can I have a motion and a second. so moved. second. it's been moved by MS. Thompson seconded by MS. Leonardi. Is there

013any public comment on item 14 which is the broward. yes, we have DR. Lynch-walsh and zach walker. Speaker: good afternoon, natalie lynch walsh, plantation florida before my time starts, MADAM Chair I'm a little concerned how you're doing special meetings, if I sign up for a item before item closes, is should not fiepd out that it was pulled on consent. we called you, you were not here. I was here when item number 1 was being and I sat here for item number 2. I physically called your name. we called and you were not here yet. for item number 3. for any item that was not pulled. it was 3 and 6. Speaker: yeah, no that does not work. Because this is not a regular board meeting, if we can start with three minutes please. So broward

014estates, continues to be a struggle because unless you're going to use the money for things that do not prevent you from doing the right thing in the long term, which of course is now that you've consolidated broward estates with mlk would be recreating one replacement school so. When I see things like permanent walkways, that's problematic. The playground though, does need to be addressed because mlk is missing, some playground, I think a whole level of a playground. Did should not be going to this early learning center because supposedly, that was not gos to cost any money, I think there was a board item that said there was no financial impact. And if it's in the defp it should have gone to the oversight committee can that site review committee which remember MADAM Chair, they specifically took

015out potential school closures and left and significantly renovations out of that policy and left in the one thing you're not doing which is new school sites. Remember? It has not come back to you yet. So and again, there is no long-range facility master plan committee, there is not even a master planner and there is a real concern especially because broward estates supposedly had a accessibility assessment done. There is 500 items of data. So either staff has been willfully continuingly to withhold so we can see the continue or your assessments are not capturing information at the asset level which would be us repeating history because in 2014, they were not capturing data at the level they needed to be capture so that you would see everything. Like stranhan getting funded for full blown culinary lab. Because

016they have a program. So, I'm torn on this one. Also you can have problem with other communities where what was left over went back into the kitty. Where as this, you're plan to go put back n.Plantation elementary is a newer school, I'm not sure how that would fit. Mlk both should be getting replaced. Kastaldi is a word that should be used. And I hope that they're not trying to shusshu up the seats. You're suppose to be saving money when you close a school, saving. Not finding new way to see spend it. Thank you. thank you, next, public speaker? Speaker: zach davis walker, city of louder hill. I want to thank DR. Holness for your consideration of broward estates. As you're aware, our residents want to see the bond dollars. They want to see that reinvested

017in the facility. Obviously, you guys have a focus, your primary focus is ecosystem, as you can see imagine on the city's end, wnt jurisdiction and because of that, the city commission is of the opinion that any reallocation of the smart bond dollars are stated for broward estates are either maintained for broward estates, as you know at the repurposing meeting, we expressed that we look at the audit, I believe the month is OCTOBER to decide what can be done for the future plans for that facility. So understanding that you have the focus on the students and those that are going to different facilities. We would ask that any limited and only expended within facilities in our jurisdiction, so specifically mlk. As the previous speaker mentioned, we're a little bit, you know, opposed to any allocation to

018those dollars where the facilities have to be a little bit newer. I continue to reach out to DR. Holness staff. We look forward to having a meeting with our officials as well as administration. So in the meantime, we look forward to what that long-range plan is going to be. Thank you. our last public speaker is aretha whimbehrly. Speaker: thank you for this opportunity. I plead to not implore to redirect approximately six million dollars in way that will marginize the process for these public school students. In neighborhood where, elementary readiness, needs our hyper focus and should have intentional support. Now despite the official closing of all the smart bond allocated project and the classification to capital improvement, the community advocated and strongly hopes for on day one, improvements with resources including new instructional tools foreplay base

019learn anding literacy and newer see, stem education, sensely play, imaginative play, creative arts, outdoor play, storytelling and dramatic play and much more in innovative learning instructions utilized to utilize the learning gaps at the elementary schools within broward estates and surrounding neighbors where investments have not mirrored the promises and superintendents for more than a decade. Making these, communicate that the early learning center will not be somewhat of a glorified babysitting campus and it will not be use today accommodate district storage needs. The academic journey of elementary school students and district 5, east of 441 have consistently been marginized and benefited way that benefit politicians instead of the children that must overcome economic barriers forced upon them. Bcps has the opportunity to demonstrate the impact for every child early learning through graduation high school, is taught here

020and tools that include a feeder pattern. And decreasess outcome including the school to prison pipeline. Which in this will benefit our community as a whole. So I'm asking that you please consider that plantation elementary school is a newer school outside of transportation needs, and the promise for an after school program, all of that goes to make thating campus early learning center stellar top tier innovative as well as showing up the opportunities. each students is a nine thousand dollar gift to plantation elementary. thank you. Any other public comment? no registered speakers. okay, DR. Holness. thank you, MADAM Chair. So, I appreciate all the comments from the audience. And I'd also like to mention that the interest of myself and I'm sure members of this board and the superintendent, is to ensure that our students are well

021taken care of and as it pertains to broward estate early learning center, that that center is a center that will be well funded to take care of the incoming pre-k students. And objective is to be result oriented not just to be babysitting. So I brought this item forward because I know we've had many discussions and conversations indicating the possibility of utilizing the smart bond allocation that was originally there for broward estates elementary within the ecosystem of that area, referring to mlk broward estates and plantation elementary. So I want today bring this as a motion to make sure that we followed through as to what we said before and that we're stick to go our promise or promise to this community and broward estates being an elementary being a school that has been repurposed into an

022early learning center. So, DR. Hepburn I have a few questions. And I hear the concerns from the city of lauderdale and from ms. Whimberly and others. Are schools in broward county boundaries based on city limits? DR. Hepburn? no, not totally. okay. So just for the knowledge of the public, what is the demographics of mlk and plantation in terms of economic status and race and so on? DR. Hepburn? I will call on DR. Wanza to help me with that. I know she has intimate knowledge with mlk. As well as DR. Fulton. DR. Wanza, I have MR. Director here our director of planning. DR. Holness? He'll provice the socio economic and DR. Fulton will take great pleasure in publishing as many times as possible the academic successes of both schools. good afternoon, joe beck, demographic planning. They're

023relatively similar, plantation elementary is 93.1 free and reduced lunch eligible that's our economic indicator in case anybody is unfamiliar. And mlk is 94.0. Within one point. Both districts are non hispanic black, mlk is 93 percent black and plantation 89.0 percent. okay, and DR. Fulton is going to say something? We're good? Okay, can you share since we're on this topic, can you share for the sake of the public, these two schools and their wonderful performance on the the fast testing results? so both did extremely well, and mlk did extremely well probably the best results in last ten years. Mlk was under the oversight of the state. And what I mean by that, if they did not make great improvements, the state would take over because of the consist ant low performance. So they continued to be

024a c but and continued to be a c but this particular year that we just ended in 2025, they were able to move up their school grade to a b. very good. And if you can go over plantation, as well. I would say academically, they're neck and neck, plantation is an a-rated school, they were a b last year and they were able to move to two a-. wonderful. So when we look at students leaving, the demographic is similar. They're both doing really well on the last fast testing. So DR. Hepburn, besides broward estates residents are there students attending plantation elementary, currently living in louder hill? yes. and if you don't mind, can you describe the current boundary existing for plantation elementary school? I have DR. Wanza or MR. Beck. well plantation, while the greater preponderans

025of the boundary. It's bounded to plantation school as well as the section of the city of sunrise. So MR. Beck, will give you the specific enrollment data so you have it for the three cities. yes, what DR. Wanza is absolutely correct. It serves three cities. 138 students who live in the boundary of plantation elementary and attending the school as of 24-25 school are resident of the city of louder hill, so 138. and that's including the transitioning student. yes, that's last school year. So we have not transitioned any from broward estates as of that data. got it. Can you describe the student currently attending plantation elementary? sure, so if I can visualize. Plantation is one of those older boundaries that has the bow tie shape where there is two pieces joined. The southeast corner serves the

026city of plantation. And then north of sunrise boulevard, and sort of west of the turnpike serves either louder hill or the city of sunrise. So it's north of sunrise boulevard. So west of the 55th is the transition where it occurs. okay, and those kids in louder hill. just to the north of. great. So the point that I'm making here is even though we have mlk, we have plantataonon, th scho bod d of owoward ununty do not have boundaries. We have in the city of louder hill as well as in the city of plantation and small part of sonrise. We have the transition students from broward estates, some of the students will be going to mlk and some to plantation elementary which as mentioned business MR. Beck, plantation elementary has already taken students from louder hill,

027because part is bounded for plantation elementary. So DR. Hepburn would you say that, this students that are transitioning from broward estates going into plantation are primarily from the broward estates area? yes, that would be correct. so would you say it's reasonable to readiness both of these schools? To receive these students who are primarily coming from the broward estate communities. yes, I would concur. okay, would you say that in the schools are beneficial to ensure their success? yes, absolutely. okay and conversely would you say that not readying and elementary for stud it enters coming from broward estates community would have a negative impact on the students? yes, we made a promise early on during the process. so the goal is to take care of these students that are transitioning to these two schools and most of

028the students live in the broward estate's communities. ce, the board was clear early on making sure that we support students that are transitioning there. So the motion we did redefine broward estates elementary. Some people say close. These kids are transitioning to plantation elementary as well as mlk. so the item is to ensure that the funding that was will a lo indicated is being spent in the ecosystem to benefit the students living in the communities as well as early learning center with the in coming pre-k students that will be attending and I'm asking the board to support the item. Thank you, MADAM Chair. thank you. MS. Bulman. thank you, chair. Thank you DR. Holness, I agree with the assessment, that was my understanding months ago when we voted on the original item. So I just pulled

029this to say that I support the item and appreciate all the hard work that you've been doing in your community working on this for all of these months. Thanks. thank you. MS. Tam son. -- thompson. to eco what my colleague said, when we promise the community something especially as we reenter and redefining that we all remember our words. So I'll be supporting this item. thank you, all those in favor of item 14 say aye. aye. any opposed? zeman says aye. any opposed say no. Is MS. Alhadeff on the line? Okay. Okay, so that's 8 votes not 9. Next item is 18. Any public comment on item 15? no comment. my question has been answered. thank you. okay, so I have a quick question on number 15. So in the in the executive summary, it gives

030some statistics and thank you because we asked for that. But it just caught my eye that only 47 percent of principals said that they would purchase the software again. But 88 percent of the teachers. I'm wondering why there is a big disconnect between administration and teachers. If the teachers are using it, why wouldn't the principals want that? good afternoon, DR. Cohen. You see the disparity between that because as you all know, we just adopted the discovery education so principals are aware that they're going to be getting a very robust science ro rick lum. -- curriculum. You MAY see, some incongruents about teachers know, versus what principals are expecting to see. Some MAY be budgetary concerns. So there MAY be some apprehension knowing. thank you, as the kind of, brings the point that I have and

031spshl because we're getting a budget meeting coming up later. Is that you know, I know 200,000 is not a lot. There are other ones that cost more but is that the software, if the principals know that somebody else is coming down the line, and the teachers don't, which I guess is not a good thing. Does it make sense to spend the $200,000 here on the software where somebody that is coming down the line, will provide teachers with what they need. Because that 200,000 can go someplace else. so I can answer that. This is one of the those items where this is principal choice and autonomy. So principals have gotten their budgets, they know what they want to spend in terms of return on their investment. This is intervention al science program that has had phenomenal

032results. So some principals MAY say, I want to use this year as a honeymoon because I know I'm transitioning into the DR. Core, and I know j and y boot camp offers. So we did want to give them an opportunity while the teach residenter familiar with j and j and to let them get to know the curriculum before we start to limit some of the other supplemental material. So I agree with what you're saying. thank you. All in favor of item 15 say aye. aye. any opposed? Motion carries unanimousingly with 8. Next item is item 16 can I have a motion and a second. It's been moved by MS. Thompson seconded by DR. Holness. Any public comment? no, ma'am. MR. Cervera. thank you, MADAM Chair. In looking at the proposed second amendment that we're being

033asked to vote on today, the total ask appears to be for 6295,000. i did a deeper dive into the proposed amendment and specifically on page, 6 of 14 of the proposed amendment in reference to article 2.03. There is a break down of all of the vendor products and services in which we are being asked to essentially extend. When you break down the numbers within subsection a-11, a 2, a 3, the total number is 6,865,000 which does not add up. In addition, if you look at subsection a-1, there is reference to a second revised exhibit a. And within this exhibit a, which is attached to the contract there is a substantiative break down on how they arrive at money that it's seeking for the subsection. In regards to subsection 2 and 3 which is a three

034million dollars ask and a 10 million dollars ask. I've got some concerns with voting on an agenda item that I have not had the opportunity to fully vet the break down or at least, see the break down on how they got to that three million. So between those two concerns and I guess maybe we can take this in order. So MADAM Chair, how is it that when you look at the substance of the proposed amendment that we're being asked to vote on, the total dollar amount when you add everything up is 6,805,000 and some change. Yet amount that is listed on our executive summary that this board is suppose to approve. That's a difference of $500,000, why do these numbers not add up? DR. Hepburn? thanks, cohen, or DR. Fulton, if there is any discrepancies?

035I'll start and I'll differ to director. MR. Cervera, this contract is multi layer to your point t involves district purchase of material and supplies as well as school base purchase of supplies. What you see built into this is purchasing that we're making as a district are already licensed. So maybe where you see that discrepancy between what the district is purchasing as well as in terms of the flexibility of having an open spin for that. wait a second, we're being asked to approve a second amendment to an agreement? correct. right. So if this is approved we have to sign a contract, right, with this particular vendor and pursuant to the contract, aren't these the items that we're purchasing or is it your position that these items, the costs are just being laid out and we can

036pick and choose what we take from this? it's a combination of both but I'll let melissa holts, kind of clarify. thank you, is this on? Melissa director of elementary learning. So this is a multi layer contract in the sense that we're guaranteeing a specific purchase pathway this k through 5 and that is amendment, exhibit 1 shows, for -- . you mean second revised exhibit a. it's a guaranteed purchase. From the district with curriculum associates. The other two are school base spend authority purchases. So some schools MAY want to purchase the teacher toolbox, ese purchases programs materials through them as well. So 3,795.81 is the only guarantee the rest of the fun, we went back historic to see what schools did purchase through spend authority school base and that's where the money came from history. We

037have a little bit of money left over from amendment 1, from the original 5,303 million. -- and I'm asking for additional authority and whatever was left from the first spend authority which we didn't spend which would give us a total of 116, -- 16 million. okay, so looking at the proposed amendment, there is no exhibit b or c, I don't have the same break down and I'm not pref' to the same numbers and same analysis I am with the second revised exhibit a. So just and maybe I'm reading this wrong. you're not reading it wrong. So when we worked with this contract, we were under the impression that when you're writing the amendment, the only revisions to a, b and c that the ones we submit are the ones that have been revised. So we

038presented a, in the contract, but b and c was never revised so we didn't present it with it but we did pass it. I guess maybe, I can simplify. If you're asking this board, I get where of the total ask of the 6.2, you're going to purchase 3.7 million or whatever the total number of equates to which is broken down on exhibit a, well documented. great. my question is what are we doing with this extra 3 million dollars. we're holding it for spend authority for schools to purchase additional products out of their budget if they have the money which understand is the missing exhibit b and c that was not attached to the contract but was just handed out. So there is no guarantee that we'll spend the three million dollars. We might spend, 10,000

039dollars if the school choose to see purchase any of those products on the two additional exhibits. in the first, this is the second amendment, right, in the first version of the amendment, did any other schools purchase the items within revised exhibit b which for the record was just handed out and I'm seeing for the first time now. Were any of these items purchased during the first amendment time period? yes. and if so, what was the dollar amount that was spent on items that were listed on now revised exhibit b. I would have to look at the analysis work sheep to see if it gives a total of what was spent, it puts in granicus, I have to pull. if we spent 15 thousand on revised exhibit b in the first amendment, period. You're not going

040to have my vote to get 3 million dollars. I need to know how much was purchased and with the dollars to dollars value ultimately equates to. correct. I'm being asked for three million dollars I don't know where it's going. I understand. I can have an opportunity to see how much money was spent then I can come back and give that answer. I would greatly appreciate that. Thank you. okay, MS. Thompson had some questions. they're more comments and it's kind along the train of thought of MR. Cervera. So you can take time to look at that up, that's fine. this is my first time going into the board. This is my comments on this item and virtual and 22. Why is it coming to us so late? We're obviously going to, I love I ready, my

041three kids, I love I ready. So this is happening so why is it occurring in a special session when we know, that extremely likely that it's going to pass. I'm just trying to get better understanding on how that works? DR. Hepburn. I can answer that question. In previous years, we had title 1 and two. Which traditionally paid nor these items. Due to the federal freeze and the uncertainity of where the dollars were going to come from. We kind of kicked the can until we knew exactly this week, we got released so that's why you're get iting so late. is that for just, I'm trying to save us time. Is that for this I ready or is that for virtual and other item? not for florida virtual but it MAY have some implications and other initiatives

042as well. okay, I'm going to reassess, but when we're trying to get a better grasp of our budget and what we're spending, some time would be appreciated because school starts in two weeks and I feel like we're getting shoved into a direction and we don't really have a lost options. I wish the outcome was different. again, I want us to get better. We know I ready is probably going to get approved. We know it's a system that works, the satisfaction or ratings or whatever all in the high 90s. How can we as a team, the board and staff work together so that we're getting these 6, 7 million dollars contracts earlier so that we can discuss them same with MS. Hixon has brought up software contracts a lot. And school is starting; so if we

043don't pass, any kids are going to kill me for one. I just wanted express that sometimes it feels as board member that we're getting forced into these decisions without enough time. So if there is a way in the future figure out how to come earlier or figure out a better solution, I would appreciate it. we have a better solution. we've established our material such as I ready because it also is very I'm glad that you are aware of. So through our superintendent we have established small footprint. So moving forward knowing that there MAY be some grant dollars he's approved for that to move forward going forward. So you will not see this happening going into next year. okay, thank you for that. I appreciate that. And then these dollars they're district dollars are they schools

044can decide on I-ready in this case? it's both, so we're purchasing a district-wide purchase for k through 5 and for our middle schools they'll have access to this and include some complement al materials. Supplemental materials. Schools will have an opportunity to purchase supplemental materials. And then I would say that based on last year, looking at the dollars of what schools spent, I ready has things like magnetic, some MAY purchase to purchase grades k through 3 and that's why we projected potentially where the dollars would land. We MAY be looking at apples to oranges through the year. And magnetic so we didn't want to exclude ourselves or come back to the board knowing these products, the schools used last year. We wanted to have access to this. thank you, I appreciate that. That's all my questions,

045chair. I do. 3,266,176 was spent just from the school base purchases if if there was anything other than the purchase in I ready. We also have an 800,000 grant that we just received from the state and that will be part of the spend authority so we can purchase 800,000 math intervention. do you need the spending authority to trigger the 800? that's included in this, yes. oh it's included. Is there any impediment to the I ready virtual program? In regards to what is being proviced. Le stop me if I'm wrong. These all appear to be hard copy books where I-ready is a virtual program online. yes and no. There is multiple levels on I-ready. There is a pathway which is what our kids get on. And also hard books if we talk about magnetic or ready,

046those are hard books. The early k-2 foundational skills, hard books. Electronic and then hard books and then you've got teacher toolbox which is a combination. That's a license where the teacher will get in to get pds and use in their classroom. So it's 3 different components of things that we would be purchasing and/or making available for purchase. So I love them all, I love the hard paper in a student's book when they're writing but the pathway is very important as well. So I don't think there is a detriment one way or the other. let me add something, schools are using in different ways at different times of day. Some MAY be doing a push-out model where they use the supplement outside of the classroom. And some use it as extended learning opportunities and we call

047it at the school preparation camps. So you'll see that principals are using various option to see intervene early or to accelerate their students beyond using the core. you don't need any of the items on readvised to have I ready be fully functioning online program, correct? that is correct. so it's a supplement or aid but it does not affect our student's ability to use I ready in the virtual space? it does not. and for the record, I do like I-ready, is love when it's scoring round. But I look at some of these contracts with the numbers and my ears perk up and especially when we do a lot of this, you know, mixing and matching of things. In you, in regards to virtual programs and now these are hard copy books and listen, a million dollars

048is a lot of money. But I also get very concerned when we talk about these dollars in these context. I appreciate the information. MADAM Chair, I would like to make a motion. I would like to buys fehr bifurcate the specific asks and instead of 3 million I would like to propose a million and a half. is there a second? second. okay. Any public comment on the motion? Okay, board discussion. MADAM Chair. DR. Holness. I would like for the superintendent to speak as to the impact of this reduction, how it would affect anything at all as it pertains to the item and student being able to receive services in terms of I ready and so on. How will this have any impact? DR. Hepburn? thanks for the question, I'll ask DR. Cohen to elaborate on any

049impacts or affects on our students. sure, it MAY limit. So scenario a, if we exceed the 1.5 million and there are specific schools that want to purchase additional materials, they would not be able to purchase those materials. We would have to come back to the board for an increase in spend authority. So that's a scenario that MAY happen. okay in light of that scenario in lapse of time, if that scenario does occur, what time period in your best estimate are we looking at that the would be impactful to those students negatively? it would depend, it would be a month. so for a mobsinger would you have a number of schools and students waiting who will not have access? principals who want the material, they would have to wait a month. which would impact the students,

050correctly? yes. thank you, I have a question, and I appreciate the conversation, because it's something that I've been bringing up again and again, because of spend authority. For me, if you give spending authority that money has to be set aside and you cannot spend on anything else. Can you explain to us, did you come up with the three million plus because that was what was spent in the previous year? Or did you survey and find out what they wanted? Because honestly, I prefer this to be the least amount and then have you come back and ask for more spend authority if that was necessary? But I do think it also makes sense to do a contract with what we know not what what we think. So? so I worked with curriculum associates to see what

051the spend was for last year and then I looked with procurement to confirm that that was the spend of last year and that's how we came up with the number. The base contract price for what the district is purchasing is a little bit different than what we purchased last year. So it's a different base price for the district purchase but I repeated the historical spend outside of the I ready platform and that's how I came up with the flat form and the 800,000 for the new grant, it's just spend authority it's grant money. so the 11.5 that MR. Cervera would include the 800,000 as part of the grant. to would have to because attachment b includes the ready books and toolbox and that's what the state has approved through the grant to purchase. I would

052take 800,000 off the top to purchase the grant materials. leaving you 700,000. that would leave us 700,000 for the rest of the schools. and my other questions, did you survey the schools instead of just going on historical? I did not, I surveyed the schools just to find out if they were interested in having I ready but there was not a specific question that said are you going to purchase the products? It was just do you think it's affective and same questions to the teachers. Do you want to have the I ready products in your school? so your best guess will be close to what we spent last year? correct. thank you. MS. Thompson. I need a point of clarification so if schools can buy it, what is that process? Is it first come first serve

053because that means? That our schools that MAY be struggling or they have a lot of issues? A lot of things that they're handling at the same time. Can you walk me through, I'm a principal and I want I ready. What do I do? you would have to direct it to spending authority, they stop allowing the purchase to go through. But I would have to ask. is it first come first serve? this is first come first serve. whoever hits the spend authority, the first starts to subtract from the purchase order, the spend authority. okay. Thank you. MADAM Chair, point of clarification, what I am proposing is the approval of 3,795,000 for the I ready virtual program which is in section 2.039 a-1. My understand ising 3.7 million dollars pursuant to revise exhibit a will cover all

054of the I ready materials the virtual materials that is outlined in exhibit a. What I am suggesting is limiting the amount of spend authority that we have that is being requested for three millions cut thating in half to a million and a half. So 1.5. But that 1.5 will be used for items on revised are the physical books this is not affect the I ready virtual that is outlined in painstaking detail in revised exhibit a? And I would also note, MR. Cohen, I appreciate the fact that you said it would be detriment, if the 1.5 would run out we would have to ask for authority. If the 3.7 million runs out, you'll have to come back anyway. correct, but can I clarify your ask. The 3.7 in exhibit a, that's the district wide purchase thanz

055the school base purchase. That means schools will not have. On exhibit b. So let's look at exhibit b. Which is the physical books. physical books online tool that you can go into and get pdf versions from the teacher toolbox. do you need, is it a requirement that you have anything on exhibit b in order to use the I ready program? no. Any only ask is rather than approving one million dollars to bite hard books that are in revised exhibit b, we limit that to a million and a half. That is my ask. if I add a little bit. It makes a lot of sense but I want at that bring connection. Melissa correct me if I'm wrong. I'll give you an example once the students takes a diagnostic assessment, it will give you a trajectory

056to fill gaps. So the teacher toolbox is a companion so it would be nice if the teachers had access to toolbox to provide additional lessons and materials that they can use to help fill the gaps that were determined by the I ready software. And the magnetic reading books are awesome for students in tier one and two and three because teachers use them in tutors. So while the software are stand alone, these are enhancement that's are definitely needed by our students to complete what I ready offers for the school district. I understand and with my proposal they'll be able to do that. They can come back to the board. you're correct but it is a first come first serve. there will be some schools that need it but will not be able to get it at

057the same time. understood. But we don't know, we're going off historical data from last year they only spend two million dollars this 3 million is an estimate. Maybe we only get to the 1.5 and save the district million and a half. I don't know the answer. Looking at this in a vacuum, it's a lot of money. I'm not suggesting that at any times needed but as I sit here today from what I've looked at I'm not comfortable with the 6 million dollars plus that is being asked. I understand the need for I ready my kids use it. I 100 percent for benefit. But when we're asking to we can buy these other things, it's too much dough. thank you. MADAM Chair. DR. Holness. thank you, MADAM Chair, and thank you DR. Fulton for claire fighting

058importance of enhancement to the software. I would caution this board that we support an item that would result with lapse in time. We have historical data that's all we have right now. But it is evidence, it provides evidencetial. So I am not willing to reduce with the consequence of creating a lapse in time for students to have these enhancements. I would rather error on the side of supporting student learning as opposed to waiting with students not having this. I don't think the 3.5 million dropped from the sky, it came from historical item. So I cannot support it. Because I do not want to put our students in a position where some students not being able to have and yes you can get to 3 million and need more. But I'm supporting that it came from

059historical data that this is what we needed last year. It showed we needed 3 million last year. I certainly think that the 1.5 million put us at-risk of having students getting a lapse in time and not having the proper enhancement to I ready that they need. I don't want to take that risk. MS. Bulman. just to weigh in, it's hard to make a decision on these things when we're getting piecemeal. But when we're getting into the chair's komentz earlier, kind of piecemeal, contract by contract it's hard to see how it fits together and the big picture. Ho will listically, I think we should be doing something. When we're responsible for approving item by item and you take it in a vacuum, it might sound fine but we don't know what it looks like compared to

060the big picture. I don't know that either side in this particular debate is incorrect but it's very difficult foyer me personally for me personally to know what is needed what we should be enhancing. To the chair's point on the other or even who it's serving. I guess my question is for the superintendent, of how we can streamline this process so we have a better idea on how we're voting in the big picture moving forward. well I can give the details, I know we had a conversation it's been last week but MS. Batista and I collaborating. I'm taking notes about how we make this more coherent as far as academic or divisional spend, so you can understand the whole entire picture and if a contract is coming out of a separate window than other academic spend

061maybe in the executive summary, we add about the others. For instance, this is a supplemental software to compliment our core instruction for ela, maybe we add what we spent or the choices that schools currently have so you get the total number of the spend. I think that would be good so we have a better picture of what we're looking at and the how many supplements and what we're actually paying and then we can make decisions accordingly. Because right now it's really difficult for us to. I hear you loud and clear and my brain is trying to convey this in the future so each additional spend and what that looks like. and also what it's like,. correct, what we're start to go do in cabinet about budget spends and availability of funds. And if if we

062can have all that information together so we have a whole list and what we're spending, I think that would be helpful for all of us. thank you. thank you, all those in favor of motion say aye. aye. all those opposed say no. no. I guess we need roll call. I'm a yes. roll call, school board member cervera. yes. hixon. no. holness. no. leonardi. yes. rupert. yes. thompson. yes. zeman. He's not on the line. alhadeff. Also not on the line. bulman. no. Passes 4-3. okay. So to the item all those in favor. wait, wait. so for the item since you have made a change regarding the spend, the recommended action needs to be changed to approve the second amendment to the agreement between the school board of broward county florida and curriculum associates and concludes on

063JULY 31, 2026 and additional spending authority request. I want to make sure that I have this right because I just added it up here, but it looks like it will be the 3,795,891.96 plus the 11.5 million and in addition to that the 10,000 from exhibit c, which totals 5,305,892.96. I just want to verify that I'm correct. 892.96. I want to make sure that what you're asking for that is the correct amount. so that would be the recommended action that. anytime there is a change in executive summary, every one says we don't have to worry about it. others are fine but the recommended action is what actually you're voting on. so do we need a motion? yes, a motion to amend to strike the 6,295,893 and instead have 5,305. we have to vote on the item

064and then do the executive summary? I move what she says. second. niz public comment on the motion? Any board comment on the motion. Motion passes, so now we're going to vote on the item. you have to vote on it. you have to vote. yeah, that's what I was saying. Sorry. On the amendment, yes. All those in favor of the amendment say aye. aye. opposed say no. Motion carries. So now we're voting on the item as a whole as amended. All those in favor of item 16 as amended say aye. aye. all those opposed say no. Motion carries unanimously. Next item is item 19 can I have a motion and a second. so moved. it's been moved by MS. Leonardi seconded by MS. Thompson. Any public comment? no ma'am. board discussion, MR. Cervera. thank you, MADAM

065Chair. This is for the home bound student teacher, correct? yes. obviously I support the need for the teachers in this scenario. My only question was the salary I think it was 125,000 a year. Just wondering, is this fair? How do we come up with this number? Obviously, majority of our teachers at our brick-and-mortar don't make this close to this. DR. Hepburn. it's not a 12-month term. Most teachers are under a 10-month term. is this a fair? Is this market rate? What kind of analysis was done? and this is total comp. If you look at the executive summary, you see salary plus fringe. The fix fringe is 11,000 and other fringe costs so total salary plus the fringe costs is 1 19 plus the 3 percent raise that it received last year. same question all thf

066is market for this position? yes, sir. okay, thank you. DR. Holness? thank you, MADAM Chair. one quick question. Is the memorial of healthcare system, the only system that we use in terms of students who need home bound services? that's an excellent question. C-team take it away, go ahead. Speaker: good afternoon, andrea, that's the only hospital that we have an agreement w.Because jodee imaginio is our trauma one center, as well as our heart transplant. If they're in a another facility they're serviced through tele health. okay so, DR. Hepburn. all right, thank you. Appreciate it. thank you. Anybody else? All those in favor of item number 19 say aye. aye. any opposed say no. Motion carries unanimously. The next item the number 20. Can I have a motion and a second. so moved. Any public comment on

067the item? no registered public comment. MR. Cervera? thank you, MADAM Chair, a couple of questions on this one. First and for most and I'm assuming this is a numbers thing, but the provide, there is two different providers that is being asked to fund. The next one is nova, a little bit more than what north lauderdale. What is the exact break down in services which would require a higher price paper bag. in compared to north lauderdale. DR. Hepburn. ?Fm I'll have aegan. In the the difference in two contracts is based on the number of students that they serve. Our nova location serves up to 120 students. And our other sefshsz a lot less. So andrea is getting the number. I'm sorry you said nova serves 120? yes. and how many kids educational service. we're looking that

068up. I hope it's not 120, because you know what comes next. our program is for students with disability and those integrated program so there are low-need students who are maybe in a regular bpk but they MAY have some special education needs. So there is a very small number of students but it does give us the opportunity to provide a full continuum of services from our most needly students into our least, you know, level of needs. So it serves not many students at all. MADAM Chair, and this is always a recurring question I have with these types of contracts. The ask is for three years. And when we total everything up according to the executive summary it's almost 14 million dollars. What the benefit to the district for entering into a three-year contract as opposed to

069one year or two-year where we're basically asked to layout two-year worth of expenses. Are we getting a discount because we're signing up long term? it's not necessarily a discount but we've had these contracts for over 20 years where they've been servicing our stutd enters in the community. So we don't layout any money. This is based on student enrollment and they do as a fee back for that's our benefit. but why not sign a one-year deal? Why not just sign a one-year deal pay them four million dollars and keep the 8 million dollar difference and use it on whatever else the district deems necessary and renew this? Why come out and pay 12 million now. we don't pay them now, we pay them each month they send us invoice, we don't pay them in advance. So

070the three-year contract just allows us to continue the working relationship and instead of doing the same contract, the money is not laid out ahead of time, it's based on monthly verification. but you're asking for 12 million to earmark for three years. yes. okay, is there any scenario in which we MAY be go back to the if we sign up for a year and then go back and maybe negotiate for dare I say a lower price for continuation of services with these providers? we're paying for their student enrollment, the same amount that we would be paying each year that's why we do an overall amount. so there is no leverage it's whatever the cap is, that's what you have to pay for? yeah. thank you for the clarification. quick question, I already know the answer but

071I have to ask it. It says, agreement between the broward school board and one, nova southeastern university incorporated boglin, semi colon and spending authority of over 13.9 million. So my question, which I know the answer to is it's not clear because there is a number one, and there is not a number two. So when when you read in the background, it says they have ended with an agreement with more than 25 years so it does not say vendors so you know it's clear. So based on MS. Batista said about the last item, I'm assuming they're two separate things. So I would like to make a motion to add a number two in front of nova university and recommended action so that thes clear that there are two vendors here not just one. second. okay, any

072public comment on the motion? Any board member comment on the motion? I do have a question, the background history does not have to be corrected just the action. Okay, all in favor say aye. aye. any opposed say no. Motion carry. Back to the original yrkts all those in favor of item 20 as amended say aye. Aye. aye any opposed say no. Motion carries as amended. Next item is number 21, can I have a motion and a second? so moved. it's been moved MS. By thompson seconded by MS. Bulman. Any public comment? no ma'am. okay, MS. Thompson. as I alluded to earlier, my question is why is this taking what was the path that this went through to get to us and obviously we will continue contracting with florida virtual, so can I just get a

073little clarification on that? through the chair, this is chris Mcguire, I appreciate the question because we worked diligently, hi we worked to get the contract before JUNE 30th but language was held up. I hate to point fingers but, so they're not as fast as our legal department, I will tell you, our legal department is minutes in response, minutes, she is terrific. So unfortunately, to conform with our agreements, florida school bought a few things and we just had to negotiate it. But believe me it was my intention to bring it to you. So I appreciate the question. thank you for that clarification. thank you, MR. Cervera. thank you, MADAM Chair, and perhaps the answer to this question is the same as in the prior agenda item. Looking at the term of the proposal here for the

074four million it appears to be, a 36-month deal, three-year deal, why are we entering into a three-year contract as opposed to year to year. it's 1.575. of course it takes a principal to do it that quickly. I appreciate, we do lock in prices so there is no increase in year two and three. oh here we have a situation where it benefits the district for doing a three-year deal because we're locking in a rate that will likely increase if we do this year to year. yes. I can only speak to this contract. I'll take it, one at a time. thank you, all those in favor of item 21 say aye. aye. any opposed say no. Motion carries unanimously. The next item is item 22 I have a motion and a second. so moved. moved by MS.

075Thompson seconded by MS. Bulman. I forgot to mention, oh we have to stop, we don't have a quorum. We have to remember that we're short on board memebers we have to have five people in the room and we only have four, we have to be cognizant when we step away who is not in the dais. I think we're good now, okay. thank you, and I'll be quick. Same question, our families love to do enrollment, so item time fwraim? DR. Hepburn? Speaker: very similar to MS. Mcguire's answer. We gave the contract and it took them up until last week to give us back their assigned copy. thank you, all those in favor say aye. aye. next item number 23, can I have a motion on 23. so moved. moved by MS. Thompson. Seconded by MS. Leonardi.

076Any public comment? no, comment. le MS. Thompson. I need to make a motion for school so it meets instructional time. second. any public comment on the motion? Any board member discussion on the motion? Okay, all those in favor of the motion changing whispering pines time to 4:00 P.M., say aye. any opposed say no. Motion carries, minus MR. Cervera. And now to vote on the item as amended, all those in favor of the item as amended say aye. aye. any opposed say no. Motion carries unanimously. I think everybody said aye. Next item is 24. Can I have a motion is a second. so moved. moved by MS. Bulman and seconded by DR. Holness. any speakers. DR. Lynch-walsh. Speaker: when we had a committee, transportation was one of the costs that we kept asking for and I

077think we got a preliminary set of costs from staff, however what we don't know is the school buses in max month? Are you sure the routes are as efficient. Before you keep buying buzzes,s, it should be clear that thth the e minim amntnt u u ed toto cocoininue mininfoforward. Do you have more routes that you can consolidate? Do you have? Is essential as efficient that could be before asking for 31.32 million dollars? Yes, it's over two different years. But I have never in the 14 years that I've been involved with this district ever seen an analysis of school buses in terms of the routes, that are served, the ages of the buses, I have never seen not in 14 years, a school bus inventory. The accumulated depreciation? Where are they? In terms of what you

078have. All I ever see is a request for more money for school buses, a request for more school buses. Year in and year out, never analysis to make sure that you're being efficient in spending taxpayer funds where school bus right side concerned. Especially now when we don't have the money and everybody is looking to capital funds. So please, if you can request and I'm going to ask one of the chair to ask for it, but you're about to spend 32 million dollars and I don't think any of you have seen a school bus inventory, it should be in maxmo, that's the first question. I have never seen it not in 14 years. thank you, any other public comment. no ma'am. DR. Zeman. thanks so much, chair. I do want to follow-up from our fellow speaker.

079It's going to have some impact on the transportation needs. My own believe is that this is a great year to skip that contract and put that 32 million dollars in other critical needs. Just because we have huge enrollment and because of the data that speakers talked about, there is no real justification for spending this kind of money. So in my mind, there has to be some consequences for not collecting data, not tracking buses as an asset. Can I ask what degree do we need these buses? I'll ask MS. Paul to elaborate. I'll be happy to elaborate. So the first, and thank you for asking the question, DR. Zeman. The first issue is that we're buying this the buses from a contract, and so we're trying to lock in the price because the prices we've been

080notified that they will increase. That's the first issue, and our buses are old, we're traveling the same miles we did ten years ago. So even though we don't have kids, we're still using the buses the same way we did ten years ago in terms of accumulating mileage. The other issue by locking in, we are able to reduce the fleet and also with the different safety improvements, they've made over the years, we can take advantage of that. We are traveling the same amount of miles. we do track miles, we do have access to that information and we'll be more than happy to provide that information to the board to help them make the decision. As stated previously, this is over two years, so my initiative is to upgrade the fleet, we work as a team, upgrade

081the fleet in terms of getting newer buses and putting the older ones out to pasture. So we do have a plan, we do have a method to accomplish the mission of transporting our students. and chair just to follow-up, is it possible that we can see that plan before we vote on committing 32 million dollars to this? Is there some urgency to do this today or can we see the plan and bring this item back with the details from asset management perspective that would demonstrate that even though we're driving the same miles, that this is a critical defp cost that we need to bear. DR. Hepburn. I'll have MS. Paul discuss the question, you just asked. Go ahead MS. Paul. so again, as I stated previously, DR. Zeman, one of the issues we'll be faced with

082is we want to lock in the contract for the three vendors that we have here. The prices are increasing so florida department of education told us this. So we know this, what we can do is mote fie the schedule of how many we purchase. But again, I think it would be not be to the district's advantage ton lock in the contract. again, I understand that, but can see that so we're confident that we can do this. I can provide you the average age of the fleet, so we can get that to you shortly as an attachment. We can also provide the bus purchase history over the last few years going back to 2013. And then we can provide you the with five-year plan so I can send that to the board as an attachment with

083the next few minutes if that would answer your questions. I would actually like get analysis and look at it and think about it. And what I keep about it, is there any urgency or can we do this in AUGUST without any damage to the contract? DR. Hepburn. MS. Paul. I think we would lose advantage of the purchasing cost if we delay the contract. We also have the issue of cost. We know that the cost of buying a school bus will go up and so the state has been adamant on that. Again , the price is based on the quantity of buses, that's why it seems like a huge amount of money. We have, 1223 buses in our fleet right now. What we're proposing is about 100 buses each year over the next five years. So

084again, rerushed to this get this to the board once we found out the prices were going up so that's why we're bringing it to the board right now. I'm not going to make a motion to postpone this but I do want to learn more about this. And I want more than average age of the fleet. I would like to really look at this from a management perspective including things is there a way to route our buses differently given the number of children that we have and the like. I believe that this is functional area if which there is tons of analysis and models available and we just got to figure out how to get that data and analysis to the board so we can tem confidently that 100 new buses makes sense. I'm not going

085to make a motion to post poen but I would love to see the data and analysis, so that we can fuel confident with this 5-year plan at 100 per year, is that okay? I got a little dis contracted but yes, we can follow-up with that. thank you, I appreciate it and thank you to all of my colleagues for putting up from me being away today, I know it's a distraction. thank you for apologizing for that distraction, we accept your apology. My questions were in the same vein as DR. Zeman. I appreciate the timing, you say the word tariff, I think everybody knows that is going to, any major capitol purchase, the timing could be better or worse depending on how that looks. I do think that we need to look at our system, if we're

086traveling the same amount of time with less kids putting the same wear and tear on the buses. And looking how we're going to save costs and I have a question for DR. Hepburn, are we looking at moving in to electric buses? Does that make sense for us? I don't know the answer to that but I would like to know kind of where we're at with the analysis on costs for electric versus diesel and how that all would work as well? MS. Paul. currently we have 60 electric buses in our fleet. I believe these were purchased similar to what we did, to what we did in palm beach, we got a grant and we bought them. So we currently have about 200 buses in our fleet and 806 conventional diesel type it vehicles. Personally I have

087electric and I love electric but one of the things that we need to learn is learn how to use them right and appropriately. If it takes them all night to charge. All school districts across the country are still working through this. But we have to look at it. But again, I believe in the mix fleet we'll continue to move forward. Trying to gear more toward electric. So the grant really helped us out. What I'm concerned about is reducing the number in the fleet. And we have a routing system that nationallily recognized but really routing goes to programs. So when you talk about traveling less miles, you have to look at where we're going in terms of our academic programs. All of it is linked together it's not just one clear answer. right so hopefully we'll

088have a better idea during this year of our programming so we can adjust our transportation to that. And do he we have a minimum commitment if we entered into these contracts a minute, you know if we grant spend requests? Do we have a minimum? Requirement in order to piggy back into these contracts. what we know is we get a better value and I'm not sure what the difference is, but if you buy in bulk, you go to the front of the line, I know that. And you also get, other incentives. I guess, I was getting a text message, but I'll look into that. But I know when you buy in bulk, you go to the front of the line and is the pricing based on whatever the coop bid is. okay, so I, I don't

089necessarily have an objection to this as long as we're agreeing with the idea that we're going to be reducing the mileage and ultimately the number of buses that we're going to need altogether so we have a good run fleet. I think right now, I don't necessarily believe that we need to hold as many bus as we have in the fleet. So I'm working with the transportation to reduce the number of buses. We have about 200 spares I want to pair that down. and the ones that we can send to auction, I want to do that. It makes no sense to hold on to old buses just because we think we MAY need them in the future. So I'm work withing DR. Clawser to move this forward. So yeah. so this is a maximum spending amount?

090yes. we don't have to necessarily spend this either. So based on further analysis, this could be less. so if we have 1100, we want to replace 500 over five years and reduce routes. and potentially look at other transportation options okay. absolutely, you got it. thank you. MS. Thompson. thank you, chair I want to echo my of colleagues concerns. It seems covered that it's spending authority. I would look at the electric buzzes, it was done at the county level and the technology is not there. It's more expensive that we're having a thoughtful. Just because it's green does not mean that it's the best thing to purchase at this point in time but also talking to our county our county buddies that bought electric buses and it's not working out well for them. That would be my

091comment. thank you. MR. Cervera? I apologize, was there a question? she did not have a question. we had a board member distracting me. this is not part of the cell phone, by the way. Thank you, MADAM Chair. I looked at this and I had two primary questions, if you look at the executive summary, the first item requesting the 15 million appears to be for last year's school year. 24-25. I want to clarification, was that money spent and now seeking some reimbursement or why is it that the 32 million dollars ask is split into last school year and now this year? DR. Hepburn? are we on the same item. still on the buses. all right. Go ahead, MS. Paul. You lost me with the executive summary, I saw something different. typically what happens is when you

092place a order it MAY roll over into the next school year because it takes quite sometime for the buses to be manufactured. But I can check on that specifically. have we spent this 15 million already? well fl this is approved, there is capital is the only fonding source that can roll up because it's based on receipt. That authority is still available for them to spend that amount for this fiscal year even though they MAY receive the item in this fiscal year. That money is carried over to cover that cost. I appreciate that. Obviously this is a large some of money that would be going towards purchasing of these new buses. how can we know that everything was done to the current fleet that was done? As far as repairs or fixing them up? Are all

093these inoperable or just maybe just old and they don't look at shiny? I would really like a better understanding and maybe again this ties into the fact that we didn't get the inventory in advance. Why not just fix these up? go ahead, MS. Paul. I have an answer but I'll let MS. Paul answer. well we have 126 bus that's currently out of service. That's part of it. As I said before, our buses and we can get more specifically ououbuses have a lomiles and accessss of teyes old alady. We have bused that we purchased in 2012, 2013, and I can give you specifics, so we have about from 2013 to 2019, we purchased about 523 buses. We can delve down into the maintenance but right now we have about 1126 that are out of service that

094we need to send to surplus. So this is a replacement schedule for our buses. As I said before, it's over ten years but the nufb miles. -- number of miles. and the 60 electric buses that you mentioned, were those purchased last year? let me take a look. We had 18 purchased in 21 and 22 and 42 purchased in 22-23. so in the last four years, we've already bought 60 electric buses. it was a grant. we've acquired 60 pus. Buses. the way we worked, we provided some money and the grant provided remainder. The bus wrz in excess of $200,000 each. I'm not anti school bus, I road a school bus for a good portion of my public school education which took place here in broward county and I'm very proud of that. My concern is the

095unknowns here in approving such a big ticket item without having the inventory the maintenance records and 100 percent confirmation that this purchase is really necessary. So I appreciate MS. Paul's willingness and offer to follow-up with this and send the supplemental material for our review but I cannot support approving 32 million dollars without having this additional detail information. Thank you. DR. Holness. thank you, MADAM Chair. So I visited the bus location and they have a great team, mechanics, and I do have a few questions. What is the considered the life span of a school bus bayeds on time and mileage? MS. Paul? I don't think there is a clear-cut answer, not to call anybody out but I'm going to call them out. We bought a lot of international bus sxz literally they were breaking down every

096day. So, the average age I think in one district it was no more than 100,000 for a bus. but we don't really have a policy that defines how which replace our buzzes so that MAY be next step. We also look at maintenance records if we have a bus that goes down all the time, we look at that. So there is a lot of factors. okay, so what I'm hearing is we don't have a measure when a bus has used up its life span because as you mentioned, a brus could be a few years old and there are issues and I'm assuming a bus can go if it's properly maintained and based on mileage, it can last well beyond ten years. So we don't have a measure to which we determine that a bus should be

097changed. And maybe we need to have one. I recommend a policy. there is a life span of school buses to 12 to 15 years. And 250,000 miles but that is for diesel, they have not come up with new buses because the life span is a lot less. currently we only have 60 plus electric the rest are? next between diesel and propane. Mainly diesel. okay, so the life span as MS. Johnson mentioned and MS. Paul, would be either 12 to 15 years or 250,000 miles at which takes precedence, which is more important the mileage or time? it depends on maintenance or the particular bus, then the life span can be less. I'm still unclear as to when a bus, what is the definition of life span. There seems to be many variable. I would say around

09825 percent. so 25 percent, you would say are below what we have and what raw number is that? we have, you mentioned that we have 1223. we have 14 that we purchased in 2001. 25 that we purchased in 2002, 14 we purchased in 03, 94, so I would say, somewhere around 250 that we purchased between 2001 and 2012. maybe I'm misunderstanding, you mentioned 25 percent of the entire bus fleet you would consider exhausted its life span. somewhere around there, yes. and you mentioned earlier that we have 1223 buzzes total. yes, that's everything in inventory. so 25 yeaser would be around 300? might be off by 50 buses. 300 would put you about 1200. but part of it is too is not just where we sit right now, part of it is how we position ourselves

099over the next five years. So we have to have a replacement schedule each year. And so what we proposed and this, item is to replace 100 buses over each year. I understand, I'm just looking at the current. I would prefer to look at a historical pfrns, each quarter and I would have to provide that to you later. okay, so DR. Hepburn, I guess, I do have some of the concerns that other board memebers have with this item. It seems, I know we have issues with declining enrollment and what we're facing my question as far as 25 percent of the buses that looks to be 300 plus buses, I know we're looking at a year to year basis. Can we get by with instead of 100 buses per year, 50 buses per year and spend less?

100DR. Hepburn? I know we need a replacement plan, and I don't know the intimate knowledge of the current state of our fleet. So I'll depend on MS. Paul. we could buy fewer buses if that's the board's will. MS. Paul mentioned that with my question that 25 percent of the bus complete would be exhausting its life span and if we have 1200 plus that would be 300 a little bit of the buzzes. So would we still, would you say we are still fulfill the objective without any impact on students transportation in a extremely negative way? DR. Hepburn? MS. Paul? I would be hesitant to say that at this time. okay, so I'm concerned about the amount of spending. And not having it true definition of what is considered the life span of a bus as defined

101by us or otherwise. I would like to make a motion to reduce the number from 1100 po 50 a year. is there a second? It's been moved and seconded to cut the number of buses which means the amount of money asked for in half stl. A public comment on the motion? sure. DR. Nathalie lynch walsh I'm in favor of the motion you can get the information that you're all looking for and find that you do need more buses but you don't know that now and it sounds as though, well I'm not sure if they're doing in excel or maxmo , but this is an accounting issue so when you buy a bus, if you google it says 12 to 15 years, it sounds like fully appreciated buses. But we don't know that because we have

102not seen anything. I don't know how you come and ask for 32 million without having supporting schedules, that would not happen but my background is not accounting which means why economist agree. I support it, you can always change your mind later and I understand that you're trying to take advantage of the pricing currently. thank you. Any other public comment? Board member comment? I would like to say if we cut it in half and got the information and found we needed more, we could bring the item back to increase the spend authority. So to end this -- never-ending meeting I would support the motion with the item that once we got the information we could find, maybe we don't have much who knows but to be able to move this item forward. But I have a

103question real quick, if we do that is the contract for a specific amount of buses? do we have to go back and do something with the contract? MS. Paul? I don't believe we do. I think this is the plan. What I'm concerned is the contract and the three vendors that we have here. great, I would support the motion knowing that if somebody changes we can bring it back. MS. Bulman. really quick. So with the motion, can we also have the commitment that we're getting the plan? yes. so are we bringing that, are we going to bring it in an email. I'll send that in a email and we can discuss it in a workshop but we'll send that nice coherent and easily understood report. okay, I feel more comfortable with that, thank you. did you

104want to speak MR. Cervera? Can it be quick? Okay. when is our next board meeting? AUGUST. AUGUST 19th. if we, if this motion does not pass or if we table this motion or remove this motion, will we have enough buses in our fleet to get our kids through the first four months of this upcoming school year without purchasing any new bus ?Z DR. Hepburn. yes, we would, because you have to order and it takes time to get the buses in. yes, thank you. I'm not in support of approving any amount of anything until I see an inventory and additional information and these documents suggested by MS. Paul in order to have full understanding about what our needs are. thank you. All those in favor say aye. aye. any opposed say no. no. we need a

105roll call. I believe it was two noes but to cut the spented by half. School board hixon. yes. holness. yes. leonardi. yes. rupert. no. thompson. yes. zeman. yes. alhadeff. Not on the line. bulman. yes. cervera. no. Motion passes. thank you. Back to the item, all those in favor of the item as amended say aye. aye. any opposed say no. no. MS. Rupert? I'm a no. 6-2 with MR. Cervera and MS. Rupert dissenting without MS. Alhadeff. next item is item 25 a motion and a second. so moved. moved by MS. Leonardi. Seconded by DR. Holness. Any public comment? no ma'am. okay, MS. Bulman since it's your item. okay, thank you, chair. I brought this item following a discussion that we had last week when it was disclosed that our coaches make less than make less than

106our maybing counties and also in comparable or large school districts in the state of florida, if not with all of this school districts in the state of florida. We're at a place where we're talking about redefining our school district. I want to ask my colleagues and really think about what sets us apart from other onsings and I think what sets us apart is our athletic programs and sthaz not exclusive of music programs and debate and school government but this is athletic that is before us right now. Sd you talk about the software but our coaches are on the ground with our kids. It's a holistic approach to being human. So many things that happen between a coach and athlete that helps people become the people that they are and functioning adults and having confidence and

107building their character that I think we really need to look at this and mack our coaches and our athletic directors. I erroneously have athletic trainers but joe, pays for that so that is not included so it will be our coaches and athletic directors. You know we're talking earlier, where respondent noted that they highly value school culture, positive school community and parent involvement. And I cannot think of a place that demonstrates that more than our athletic and how important that is to our community. People come back to cheer on the teams. Soy hope that you will, I know, it's a significant amount of money but we also have for the numbers approximately more than 2900 coaching positions and we want to have the highest quality coaches that we have because I think that really sets us

108apart and something that we offer to the community to our students that other options cannot. So I'm hoping that, my colleagues will support this item and support our coaches and our at let I can directors so they're being paid, nobody is getting rich but at least they're being competitive and at least we're not losing great coaches to our neighbors. Thank you. thank you, MS. Thompson. can we get an updated number if at -- athletic numbers. Perfect. Thank you. I think this is an interesting item. As we move forward, we want to be innovative and we also want to retain the best talent and I think this conversation will continue into our public hearing at some point when we have it in the redefining 5:30, time certain so it will be at 5:30 that we'll talk

109about it. And I want to wrap it up and d takepeople are taki bold epepitit becae ofofhehe nnnnecti t t school and ouststf.F. Can I'm going to vote in support of this item. I'm happy to I I've been asking since the day I got he electricked. That was what I was told was the holdup for all that time, I'm sorry that I didn't think to make an item so we could have done it a while ago. Thank you for bringing that. South side I 1100 percent it, I do have a question where is this money going to come from? DR. Hepburn can you tell us, we do a finite amount of dollars. Where will we be taking it? this will come out of general. so it will reduce our fund balance? no, we will shift.

110Our motto, there is a tradeoff. and that's what I'm asking. what money will not be used? so if this is something the board wants to do we're already eyeing cost saving to balance out. that was my question and I'll end with this, and I know MS. Leonardi wanted to be added. Ins all great, I will say simply that if we see at other districts, athletic director, my husband was a that athletic director that made that maesly 4 dollar job. And thairt only ones at school when activities are going on, and they're in charge there. So I would love to have this discussion moving forward how we make athletic director, that information a full-time position at a higher teacher pay. And if you see in texas they make a whole lot of money. the board has

111been asking for this for many years now. O kudos to you for bringing it forward. i know it's a hefty sum during a tight budget season. But it's something that we need to do to make it right. I just had two questions, do we need to make an amendment? MS. Batista? N.Yes, if you're only going to be addressing coaches and athletic directs and not at let I can trainers, I would make that motion, you should. I would like to move that we eliminate and athletic trainers and then move the and right before athletic directors. second. it's been moved and seconded to delete the wordings athletic trainers in a requested action. Any public comment? Board member comment? All in favor say aye. aye. any opposed say no. and I have a second question, for the requested

112action is the wordings as board memebers are we allowed to do something like give financial direction with our items? MS. Batista? so the answer would be yes, of course it would be in collaboration to make sure that whatever action is being taken does not have a negative impact on either fund balance or whan. thank you. all those in favor. Say aye. aye. any o poeds say no. Motion carries, whoo-hoo! Yay! Item number 226 -- 26, can I have a motion and a second. Moved by MS. Thompson seconded by MS. Cervera. Any public comment? no ma'am. board member comment. MS. Bulman. sorry I hate to be a hog right now. I'm happy that this item is coming before the board. A professional tennis player, has all the stats. And, she approached some people that were in

113my district, a tennis proand also worked with hollywood commissioner adam and the hol en dale beach commissioner joy cooper to bring this item. And it's a especially exciting we're going to be giving, they will be providing free tennis for schools during recess what is especially cool is sloan stevens herself two weeks ago, won the ali humanitarian espy award. I thank every one that was involved to help bring this forward. thank you. And I also just like to say I'm very excited to see this item finally come before us. I know that commissioner graouber reached out I'm going to guess to a number of us to ask us about this, I want to say almost a year ago. So I'm very very happy to see that it's, that it's come toll fruition and that we're able

114to vote on it today. All those in favor of item 26 say aye. aye. any opposed say no. Great motion carries unanimously. The last item is item number 27 can I have a motion and a second. so moved. moved by MS. Thompson seconded by MS. Leonardi. Any public comment on 27? yep. yep, DR. Nathalie lynch walsh, this is similar to your other discussion, with I ready where you did the school base on the 22 and now they're bringing you another 39.9 million, while you're discussing to have kids from having meal debt, on software. The research that is being sited reflects interest and not results and survey of 39 teachers performed 11 percent bert than their controlled counterpart on measure of exponential functions. Seems like you would need somewhere results elsewhere given that you're start withing

115a deficit but here we are asking for another 3.9 million to supplement what looks like school base funding that you approved the prior week. So I'm not in favor of this, unless they can really explain how it's going to double and create a 20% increase something more than 2.94. any other public comment? no comment. okay, MS. Thompson. thank you, chair. Similar to my previous comments but also just to piggy back on DR. Lynch walsh's comment, do we know prior to meeting where we voted to approve this that this software spend would of had to happen? DR. Hepburn? I'm not clearly understanding the question but I'll give you the best answer. I'm trying to clarify. It's late. so last week, whatever, last week we approved something a little less than a million, right. When the staff

116brought that to us, was there knowledge that we were going to have to spend an additional four million dollars? yes, we discussed it in the meet thating we were going to bring an item to outfit all middle schools moving forward. thanks, sometimes I can be wrong. MR. Cervera. thank you, MADAM Chair. This board is now being asked to spend almost four million dollars on a vr program that the way I see read the executive rum re, doesn't have a lot of historical support and it looks like to me that there needs to be some further research that is done on this in order for to us weigh a true cost benefit analysis. I know that the suggestion is to quote unquote use a third party vendor to look at how this impacts our student's achievement.

117But in my mind to spend this type of money on another computer program which I have lost count how many we've used today. When there is no historical data or limited, I heard the number 2.94 from the speaker prior, this is just, this is just too much for me to swallow. I will not be supporting this. Especially in light of the fact that we just gave nearly a million dollars at our last meeting on the 22 right-hand -- 22nd and I don't think it's there for support for this program. thank you, MADAM Chair. thank you, MS. Bulman. okay, so I've, those are my initial concerns too when I read the item. I did have the opportunity to talk to DR. Cohen about the program. It might be more compelling because I think it's part of

118a bigger piece of a puzzle that again when we're looking at redefining and looking at what the distincters us from other choices, I think when we're looking at building a program that does set us apart, I think that this software that we're looking to purchase does that. is appreciate the comment and I appreciate the rich conversation that we had yesterday around this piece. I know that earlier this week, we had a board workshop on ai and we talked specifically to a student who talked about their experiences their lived experiences using technology and how those experiences actually have changed their projectory of the in class experience shift froming the textbook to technology and what that has changed in terms of their learning outcomes. We got some teachers who paved their hands and said I want to

119thank about how the four corners can look differently. Overwhelmingly, the students and the teachers overwhelming said this was a game changer for them. They're scared to go to middle school. We liken to this reimagining a middle school. And so yes, this cost a lot but also coming from capitol dollars which can be used for technology hardware purchase. So it's a little bit different in terms of other technology pieces that you MAY have seen. That's the curriculum side of the house. This is harbor. It comes bundled as we shared last week, yes to their point there have been some limited studies but I'll be honest when there is new technology, you're not going to have a lot of data coming because it's new. It's the way that things are changing so quickly, we're not going to

120have data telling us whether it's really good or not. That's why we started as a prototype launch, ten schools, number of teachers across different schools and the evidence was overwhelming qualitatively, the teachers found it to be exceptionally good. We looked across the nation, los angeles through the experience loved it. They're now wrapping up to show that academic achievements will hide. So our goal is to, say, let's not tip our toes in the water but let's put our foot in the water and let's be bold. thank you, DR. Cohen. DR. Holness. thank you. So I remember when we participated and is thought it was pretty exciting. I know DR. Hepburn, one of the goals for this district is not to play catch up but to be on the for front of the technology. I think this

121is beyond, it's a bit more than looking at at the initial results that we're seeing which we do see some positive results. Maybe not to the magnitude that we would like. But I believe this is a start of a great era in putting broward county schools at the for front of technology. I don't think we want to go far behind and be a role model, we want to be a district to which every one looks at as far as being at the for front of technology. So it is a start of probably a great move in having broward county school district be on the for front of technology. I think it would be a mistake not to approve this item because I think it would put us in a position where we're setting at the

122precedence to put us behind the technology. So I am supportive it not, not just based on the initial results because I would like to see much greater results and I think we will but in the base of where this is taking us in the future, as far as technology. So I'm going to be very supportive this. Thank you. thank you. I just want to thank the board. I want I remember coming back to broward county in the 8th year and I remember being in the stem lab with 80 percent of their computers not working. So emergency coming back it their home and 80 percent of the computers not working. The fact that this is on the table it should not be doubted that students are not going to enjoy what we're offering. this is where

123the point where we knew it was going to be expensive, just one is about $300 we knew what price it was going to be. We knew what we were looking at. We knew at the workshop when we talked and decided, we knew how much this was going to be. As a math guys I'm really struck by that people in los angeles who just used this over the summer, finished saying that they liked learning math. And the numbers are absolutely remarkable. Up 44 percent in los angeles this summer in terms of liking math. You just don't hear sixth graders saying that they like math. This is revolutionary and to those who think of this iss an investment if you divide the number of students that we need to earn back in one year to pay for

124this 4 million dollars it's 70 students. If 70 students decide to go to our fourth grade, this product will pay for itself. I'm really struck with DR. Cohen, they would like 6th graders to go back to their 5th grade and brininthe vr gooing lz and showow the e 5th graderer what thth geget dodo the broward county school. This is bold, it is remarkable it's putting our money where we know we can make the money back. I'm willing to gamble that closer to 700 people come back to 6th grade. Very very excited. DR. Cohen and DR. Hepburn and to all who put this to theding. This is a great way to earn capital dollars, and we earn back. This is one of cool investment where we figure out how to spend capital but earn what we

125need which is general fund money. To help us pay for teacher salary and coaches salary. Parents and three-year-old and parents of 5th graders are making fundamental decision sxz we've got to make sure that at those points is when we're putting our best point forward. I'm enthusiastic about this it this is a great decision. thank you, MS. Rupert? thank you, thank you, MADAM Chair. Simple question and I do appreciate DR. Cohen. My question is this, are new k-8 and are multi grade schools are they also going to be included in this rollout next year or this coming school year? yes, that's correct. perfect, simple as that. Thank you. thank you, all those in favor say aye. aye. ?Iz opposed say no. aye. no. motion carries with no descending vote. With no MS. Alhadeff. before we adjourn

126the meeting, DR. Hepburn wanted to make an announcement. I apologize for our delays for the next item. I do want to address something real quick, for the board, the two items that I withdrew for this meeting, I will not be bringing those back until a thorough review is completed by the ig, so I want to let the board know that so as we move forward and that will cause a delay in our deployment of course, that's just so just fyi. DR. Hepburn, will you make sure that all of us as board member get copies of the report as soon as you get it. yes, whatever they give me I'll be committing. MADAM Chair. yes, you have to remember to raise your hand. I have a question. no. Problem. just in a general question, since we

127are paying for the cost of the ig is there, do they give us like a monthly report on things they're investigating? How do we know how to proceed especially in particular instance? as you maze recall when with the ig visited the school district and gave a presentation, she mentioned that they do not you know, even though we paid so that they would extend their jurisdiction and be able to investigate any issues related to ot school board, they do not provide a list of those items to the school board. She mentioned that you know, one of the reasons for that is that, you know, wanted to make sure that there was not any appearance that would be retaliation or any type of action against the person or persons that might be filing filings against the district.

128The only way would be to make a public record requests and from what we understand, the items will not be available at this time. so if they're under investigation and they, when they're done, do they, send something to us? MR. Cervera asked for a report do we even get that? How do we know what the issues are? so in the event that they're investigating and in the event that they do come to a completion, they will issue a report. but we have no item when? that's correct. And normally the position of the ig is that, you know, any investigation that they MAY be doing on any particular entity, that entity should continue to do business as they would because they can't really predict or you know, will not expedite something and have an issue with

129a poorly done investigation just to make sure that there is announcer by a certain time. and one other question, so we had made a directive to the superintendent about on day one of the school year distributing the lap tops but due to the fact that we're not going to have them yet, do we have to do any formal motion to change that date since we had made a motion to the superintendent to for that. my understanding is that there will be a laptop issued on the first day. But he will be able to clarify that. yes so, I do want to clarify. Because for us logistically with purchasing or refreshing our replacing our current invent terry the logitics around having administrators issuing current devices and kind of going out and finding all of that inventory

130and then going back and cog it all over again, it's a very difficult task. So right now, hopefully we get some follow-up or some closure from the ig, I'm hoping in the next couple of weeks. We do have, you know, we'll operate as normal as we did last we're. Last year. We're trying to make sure that we don't put a logitic al burden at our school by doing something twice. We've been talking to administrator and it staff we're hopeful to move forward. We're going to have to wait and see to see what the ig says, it's going to be all about timing, we can come back with our next steps. MR. Rodes had something to add. some additional information to what MS. Batista, to maintain their confidential requirements, there is two basic times that we

131could learn of this. One of if they issue a report, the other would be if they close out any matter that they MAY open. We could ask them to notify us of that when that is no longer a matter, if that turns out to be a case. I did 12 years with them and I understand the information does not flow outward. thank you. DR. Holness. thank you, MADAM Chair. i know I had made a motion a few months back for all students to have computers in broward county schools which is set for AUGUST 11, with these concerns I would like to make another motion as you mentioned to delay implementation of the previously passed motion to provide laptops to broward students until such time as necessary for the superintendent to review emerging concerns. that's my

132question to you MS. Batista, do we need to make that motion. the reason I hesitated because I did not know whether the superintendent was able to meet that requirement. we're not able under the circumstances. right, without this contract. So yes, as the will of the board to change to still have that be done with the students and due to the change in circumstances, I would recommend that you do that. I second the motion. thank you. any public comment on the motion? Speaker: sorry what's the motion. the motion is MADAM Chair? yes. the motion is to delay the delay the previously pads item to provide lap tops to all broward students until such time is necessary for the superintendent to review emerging concerns. that seems very vague but I assume that it's the computing devices so

133sure. And I guess I'll have to go back and replay this because when you withdrawal an item, I would hope why you're withdrawing it or I couldn't put it on in the first place unless you're talking about different lap tops, anyway, thank you. thank you, any other public comment? Board member comment? MS. Leonardi. I guess, in order for a motion to be made does it need to be made on item? I'm confused about logitics of this? MS. Batista? so the best practice is to bring an item either brought in late and accepted for good cause or item that is placed on the agenda that would be the best scenario. You know, so and this particular in this particular case, the chair has seconded the motion so I assume she is accepting for a good cause.

134do we need to open up the agenda first? the agenda -- didn't we close the agenda at the beginning of the meeting? yes. The agenda that we had before us, it is closed now. You can, you can do that yes. You can make a motion to open the agenda and you would need a motion to close the agenda. we can but the question is, do we have to? That's what we really need to know? yes, if you're going to add this item as an additional item to the agenda, yes, I would open the agenda and you know, state on the record that you're accepting it for good cause. and move to open the agenda. second the motion. do I have to take public comment? Great. All those in safer say aye. -- favor. motion carries.

135we're back on DR. Holness's motion. I would like to make a motion for good cause that we delay implementation to provide lap tops for all students until review of emerging concerns. I accept the motion for good cause. and second. now we need a second. second. bulman seconded. Okay, any we already did public comment on the motion. Board member discussion, we're in the middle so MS. Bulman. I just wonder if because we're in a limbo right now with waiting and not want to go waste resources but also known as a computer if we want to put a time line on? We don't want to do that? Like if we were going to give, current laptops out if we cannot resolve this? Or we're just not going to do it? the ig, we don't dictate their time,

136I prefer staff and I circle back around and come back to the board with specific next steps based on the amount of time we're willing to wait? so how much time do you think that would be? let me get back to you. just as long as it's on the radar. MR. Cervera. the comment made by DR. Holness in terms to direct the superintendent to address these concerns. This is an active by the general office. We need to play that out and get report and make a decision based on the findings. It's irresponsible to put that in the back of the burner and pretend like that does not exist. The original agenda item back to the board when the inspect or, the general still has this pending investigation. I want to see the results and findings

137and then I will make a informed decision in my capacity as a board member as to whether or not I'm going to support this. MS. Bull pan. -- bulman. just to claire fie, -- clarify. If we wanted deploy them, that's a separate issue something that we already own. Which we're going to do, it was, because it's in the inspect or general right now, the kids don't have the laptops to take home. So there is a gap of our attention was, that was determining how much time we want to spend before we look at other options. okay, all those. we can vote it's okay. all those in favor. I'm sorry, can you restate the motion, please. the motion is to delay the implementation of the previously passed item to provide laptops to all broward county students

138by AUGUST 11th until such time as it is necessary for the superintendent to review emerging concerns. thank you. all those in favor of the motion say aye. aye. any opposed say no. Motion carries unanimously. Now I need a motion to close the agenda. so moved. second. it's been moved and seconded to close the agenda all those in favor of closing the agenda say aye. aye. any opposed say no. Agenda is clodes. I have a really quick question before I adjourn, back to the item of supplement increase, that will start with their first paychecks the school year, is that correct? that's correct. thank you. The schedule order of business for this school board meeting has been completed. Seeing no obligation, I now adjourn this meeting. We're going to go back to the school board workshop as

139soon as we get ready. We're going to have take a vote to extend the time because 4:30 is our end time for policy so I'll do that as soon as we come