001testing testing one two three. welcome to today's special meeting. This special school board meeting of the school board of broward county florida is now called to order. Our primary focus to create a safe and productive environment for all participant. Please notice the exit doors. While in the board room refrain from obstructing the exit doors. Once there is capacity, attendees will be put in a overflow area. Continue to exit the building and remain outside until the authority that has jurisdiction that's deemed the building safe to return. Thank you for your cooperation. All please rise for the "pledge of allegiance" to the flag of the united states of america. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under GOD indivisible with liberty and
002justice for all. as we begin to prepare to begin our special school board meeting, we're reminded that as a-rated. Our theme this year is believe and power achieve, one broward. Today's special school board will operate in accordance with school board policy 1020 and the board will review the items as presented by the superintendent. The superintendent released a revised agenda and published it on the school district website. The chair finds pursuant to 1 2020-25 that good cause exist for such changes and accepts the revised agenda. may I have a motion and a second to close the agenda. second. moved by MS. Leonardi seconded by MS. Thompson all in favor of closing the agenda say aye. any opposed say no. The agenda is now closed. The chief of staff and communication officer polled the board. The following
003items have been identified for discussion. Item number 1, 2, 5, 7, 11, 14, 15, 16, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 and 27. At this time MAY the share have a motion and a second to pass the items that have not been called. 10, 17 and 18. so moved. moved by MS. Thompson seconded by MS. Bulman. Are there any registered speakers on items that have not been pulled for discussion. 3 and 6 by DR. Nathalie wall much. okay, I don't see her. Any other speakers. Okay, so when they're pulled, you'll come up at that time. Okay, come on up. Speaker: good morning, chair. try again. Speaker: my name is felicia, coconut creek florida. Today I'll be talking about item 3, membership. Is would like to speak in support of maintaining county's membership. Strong
004informed leadership is the backbone of any successful school district. Fadss provides our district leadership with assets to state wide collaboration advocacy and that directly impact student outcome. Ensures that teams stay connected to keep legislative and best practices from across florida. The cost is minimum compared to the value we received and return from leadership train to go network and that improves how we serve our students. I encourage the board to approve this investment and continued excellence for broward county public schools. Thank you for your continued leadership. thank you, you can go on item 6 as well. Speaker: I apologize that is not the one that I had chose tone speak on. okay, just 3. Any other speakers? no ma'am. okay, all in favor of approving the agenda items that have not been pulled for discussion say
005aye. aye. all those opposed say no, motion carries, items pass unanimously. I have a question. go ahead, MS. Rupert. was 17 and 18 included in the polling? those were not pulled. then register me on those on both of those too. okay. alrighty, MAY I have a motion and a second on item 1, school board policy 5090 code of student conduct. so moved. moved by MS. Thompson seconded by MS. Leonardi. It's moved and seconded to adopt item number 1. And registered speakers. MADAM Chair, we have one registered speaker, taylor berry. Speaker: all right. Testing testing. Okay. Good morning, school board members. My name is taylor berry I'm the PRESIDENT Of miramar youth advisory council. Thank you for allowing me to speak on this issue. I'm here today because I believe that students should have the ability
006to use their phones during lunch. That's it. I'm not asking for phones to be allowed during classroom but access to our own devices during the one break that we have a day. For many students, lunch is more than food, it's a time to respond to emergency messages and speak to our parents. Or decompress. Some use our phones to check our notes. That 30-minute window is our reset button. I understand that concerns have been raised with phones leading to conflicts. But taking phones during the day, does not teach us anything. It just takes the opportunity to learn how to manage it responsively. What students need is guidance not a total ban. If you truly want to support our development, help us learn digital balance not digital punishment. The district says the policy is about mental health
007but forcing kids to sit in silence, unable to contact their families or listen to go a song that calms them, does not help. In fact that lack of connection ads to our stress. You say that students are being aggressive whether phones are taken away but that does not show how disconnected we feel. Instead of removing that outlet, we try to listen what students are saying, especially when we are asking respectfully. You're not giving us screen time you're showing us that you trust us. And when you trust students, we step up. I know policies are complicated but this one can be simple. Keep the boundaries during class, that makes sense. But give us a moment of freedom during lunch. That's not unreasonable it's humane. I came here today not just for myself but for every students
008who feels their voice is not heard. Every school in broward county, we're not asking to break the rules, we're asking to be part of them. Thank you for your time and considering my perspective. thank you so much. Any other public speakers? Yes, go ahead. Speaker: pompano beach. Mayor, I mean ma bam chair, board memebers, I was not going to say anything about this item but the young lady hit a bill in my mind. I understand what she is saying, but I understand the quality or those times when you have bullying. these cell phones have become a tool to bully kids. To put up post and to activate negativity instead of promoting things that are good about our school system. Even if you give it to them during lunch time and there is a fight during
009lunch time. Next time you know that school is on blast because of what is on instagram or social media is not being recorded. Where do you all put the boundary? For years, our parents and grandparents, we had a good time in high school and middle schools, we didn't have cell phones and we were still able to consciously still be motivated and affective. Why? Because we could still talk to each other. Even when we were sick, we still had to go to school. If it wasn't a fever, had you to go to school. Cell phones in our schools are disrupting the mind set of what they're there for and this body has a fiduciary responsibility to look at the whole person. Whether it be lunch time and the negativity. We have a drop in students right
010now. Do you know if the private schools say no phones that the parents get to tell the private school we're going to do it anyway? No they take their kids where they get the best quality of education and they're bound to deliver and stand by the rules set for by that institution. We've got to draw some boundaries. social media is becoming a problem and it's t makes our schools bad. Right now they're saying that blanche ely school is the worse. Buzz but we still got a a. But with students posting problems with these cell phones. You should think about the whole person and not just saying they're need cell phone. My grandmother said, you're there to get education. DR. King, you're there to get an education, to not make friends. And make your life better
011better than what your parents and grandparents were able to get. Thank you. thank you. Any other public comment? no registered speakers. thank you. We will move to board speaking and first up is MR. Cervera. thank you, MADAM Chair, I appreciate the opportunity to speak first on thish. -- on this issue. I understand this is a hot-bot did hot-button issue. I've had an opportunity to speak to a lot of administrative and teachers. And this morning I'm voting in support of this language, that bans cell phones and I also support the proposed ban for high school students except with the limited exception of when teachers deem it necessary for an educational purpose or use. Our school house needs to go back to being places of learning education, fundamentals. Not these constant distractions. i've heard from countless teachers
012repeatedly tell me, that when these kids are using the cell phones during the lunch hour, it's at least 5 to 12 minutes when they come back to the classroom after the bell rings, they've got to get the phones off and refocus and put the phone away and all of this is costing our students instructional time and it's a constant distraction for our teachers. And this is a recurring theme that I'm hearing when I speak to not only my constituents from parents and teachers throughout the entire county. There were no cell phones in the classrooms when I grew up, mind you, I'm old, I'll be the first to admit that. But I think I grew up just fine, at least I hope so. Having these phones takes away from the critical function of what our educational
013process and what the purpose of our school house is. And while I understand the need and the desire for our students to want to check in on social media and look at tik tok and make sure that are facebook post is up to speed, I get that. But we can do that after s soooo what ouldldthesdsdsbebe dodog g l lch?? They shshould be eating, socializing, they should have conversations conversation with their phones, look at the birds, look at the sky, go for a walk if you're allowed to. But to go into lunch and immediately start doing this, and burying yourself and becoming a zombie, I don't think is the best thing. and I understand this MAY not be a popular take but sometimes, as elected officials, we have to make decision that's MAY not necessarily
014be popular. Walk around a mall on a weekend, go to a restaurant, watch what these young kids are doing with these phones. This. Complete zombies and listen, I have little kids, I get to see it firsthand in the household. I see what happens to these kids, they just go into this trans-like state. They get the quick dopamine hit and expect today immediately turn off the phone and go back to class and learn. It's a distraction, it's not necessary, and I'm in full support of the proposed language of this policy. The phones needs to be off or airplane mode. We don't need to have lunch time turn into social media hour. I yield the rest of my time, MADAM Chair. thank you. Next is DR. Holness. tuz, MADAM Chair. So MADAM Chair, I know that there
015is possibly such as much research that supports cell phone as well as not support it. I also know that majority of the research that we look at, is based on the excessive use of cell phones, number one and number two, the use of cell phones, during instructional time. Now we can all argue, for those of us over 50 back in the day what it used to be. I didn't have internet when i went to school. If I were to talk to my parents, they didn't have email, we didn't have uber, we didn't have all of these things. But should we go back to our days. When I look at the research that is out there, I do agree that excessive use of cell phone is problematic. And I also agree that over use is also.
016However, complete ban of cell phone is also problematic. Our students today, they encounter a significant amount of issues in their lives. During lunch time, cell phones provide an opportunity for one, for students to communicate with their loved one or with their support systems if there is an emergency, if there is trustor they're anxious about something that happens during their school day. If they just need to make arrangements for some after school activities that their parents and guardians needs to be in touch with them about. It also provide quick access for them to do some research or to even do homework that's pertaining to research. So I don't see using cell phones during lunch time to be an issue. We all had an issue with our student using cell phones during instructional time and in agreement
017with that, that's very problematic. But I also think that there is benefit to allowing students to use their cell phones during lunch time. I believe it reduces their level of stress. i believe it provides access to important people when they're experiencing stress during the day. I believe it gives an an opportunity to do quick research on maybe an assignment upcoming. I'm supportive of the use of cell phones during lunch time. I'm not supportive of use of cell phones during instructional time. And I do agree that accessive amount of cell phone can be a problem but during lunch time is not excessive use. And I think there is benefits, one can argue to use it during lunch time. So I am going to support using the cell phone during lunch time. Thank you. Thank you, board
018member. So I would like to make a motion to include the use of cell phones during lunch time for our students. second. thank you, it's been moved and seconded to change the policy to allow students to use their cell phones at lunch time. Is there any public comment on the motion? Okay, any board member discussion on the motion? MS. Thompson. board member thompson, for high school only. this is following our brilliant fellows in tallahassee that should be allowed in lunch time. Since being only the board, I start today pay attention to dais and staff and adults in the room. and often times, they are on their phone. I bring this not to call anybody out but to share a high light I shared reality, adults use their phones to manage responsibility to stay informed and
019connected. Our students have many of the same responsibilities that adults in the room have, especially our high school students, many of them have jobs, they're taking care of younger siblings, other responsibility that's likely listen to during yesterday the state of the district, we MAY not know everything that our students are going through. And they use these 30 minutes to handle these responsibilities and I want to support that. So there is also been a lot of talk about the impact of cell phones and especially on the dais social media access. So I want to make it very clear, superintendent do students have access to social media while they're on our campus? if they are on their cell phone through their own cell phone network, yes, if you're on our wi-fi, no. thank you. So I think
020it's important to clarify that they don't have this access. Also if you've been in our high schools, a lot don't have good wi-fi signal, so having them on their personal network is probably not an issue. This is not about giving access to instagram or facebook or tik tok but a tool that every adult in this room uses daily to decompress, to reconnect to manage their lives. To suggest that allowing students for nearly 30 minutes, would undo the progress we've done is both inaccurate and unfair. The instructional ban on cell phones, remains in place as required by state law and as DR. Holness he's not proposing there is any changes during classroom use, we're talking about lunch. A time when everybody can agree, should be a time that students can reset and recharge in a way
021that they can recharge. I want to emphasize mental health, as the only mental health professional on this board and I feel I have a good understanding by talk to go my friends that are adolescent, they work primarily with this group, cell phones is a way of life. Cell phones can be used as tools, as breathing apps to reconnect for near 30 minutes. I also want to say as a district, we have qr codes, we have information that they can access on their cell phone and we all have continually said that we want to address mental health. I worry that we ban cell phones and say mental health is fine. That we have done enough because students can't access the social media that we're all afraid of. If we want to make substantiative changes. I'm on
022board. This is not it. I also want to say that I heard some language about our students and teens, this is not just in this room it's in the news, it's outside that our students are becoming zombies that our students if they don't have their cell phones, can be menaces. This is our students, that language should not be use today describe them and it needs to stop. We emphasize in this district, that our student voices matter, that we listen to our students, that everything we do is about the betterment of our students. We have students here today and students that have reached out and students through a survey that would like the accessibility to their phones during lunch. If we're truly a board that listens to their students, we would allow them. We have an
023opportunity that their voice matters that our students when they step up when they have courage to talk about us, which is terrifying for some reason, even though we're very cool. We need to show them that we're listening and that we trust them to use during lunch time and once lunch time is over, they put that cell phone away, because we're raising the next generation, we're raising future leaders, and if we show them now that we don't care when they talk, what is that showing them down the line? Thank you. thank you, MS. Leonardi. thank you. You know, many things can be true at once. First, the adults even the adults in this room have trouble with cell phone use. that's a fact, many of us in society can admit that we struggle with being on
024our cell phones. You go out to lunch with friends or coffee and sometimes, you look up and every one is on their phone. That's a problem for adults, that's a problem for kids. But we are not here to talk about adults. And you know, I I really feel very strongly about this policy because, overturning it, has demonstrable harms. And it does not make sense why we would overturn a policy that has worked for the most part, that has shown benefits. When we have harms that are demonstrabletive proven. There is proof that shows cell phone use is harmful for our children and adults. There is research that shows that by allowing students who access phones during lunch, it increases usage during class time. Because once you give people access to their phones, it's harder and harder
025to put it away and focus during class. But I've gone through all of these things. I think what really sticks with me though, is the point that DR. Zeman brought up which is we are in a lawsuit a class action lawsuit against social media companies for the mental health impacts, the damage that has been done to our children because of access to these devices. I've been reading a book called anxious generation which is by the way, required reading high school gibbons this summer. and it talks about how the very basic thing schools can do, is to limit cell phone during the school day, which is what? 8 hours during their 24-hour day. The other piece of that and I think it's a conversation that we need to have as a board is adding more play,
026playful time for our students, increasing recess and that's something that I'm happy to discuss later. But I don't think that we can have a conversation about just limiting cell phone use. I think that is, I feel very strongly that that is very important. But there are other aspects of mental health that we need to address and I would be remiss if I didn't mention that. One last thing that stuck with me is something that MR. Cervera said, that this MAY be an unpopular opinion. But I think all of us, last year, when we were talk to go voters said that we supported this ban. And we said this because this is something that we heard from constituents from voters. This is something that I hear from parents routinely, that they are crying out for you
027know, the deed digitalization of our students. And that's another conversation I would like to have later on is putting students in front of people and peers instead of laptop but that's another conversation for another day. I want to thank the public speakers who came to speak about this. Your expression of your thoughts and opinions is much more eloquent than I can get across, I feel very very strongly about this. And again, we're not here to talk about adults. And by the way, there are elected officials who do have jurisdiction at the federal level who are pushing legislation who are push to go reign in some of these tech companies because they understand they're having an an impact on our attention plan and adults brains are fully formed. We're not even, we're not even talking about
028that difference, right? But, you know, again, the policy far outweigh the inconvenes of cell phone -- inconvenience of cell phone use. thank you, MADAM Chair, sorry, that's my dog again. I will not be supporting this new language. Our anti cyber bullying bill in florida came from a change in broward county policy and then to the state, that's where the first anti cyber bullying bill wound up there. This bill started in our district, my daughter's nightmare life being cyber bullied. Students horrendously bullied her during class, during bathroom breaks, on break. Even when she was home during homework. This damage can be irreparable. I feel strongly about not make thising change. We need to do the uncomfortable, unpopular vote but this is greatly needed. Thank you. thank you. I was going to have landyn. alternate student advisor.
029First off I want it say good morning to the board and to the students that landyn and I are represent. I'm disappointed that we're having this conversation. About students lunch cell phone. We are we're deciding if students can 30 minutes of cell phone. The little bit of freedom is now being taken away. According to many research, teens say texting social media and video calls help them connect withing their friends and families especially for students who are introverted. Many students use their break to check focus to respond to teachers emails and stay on top of assignment. Others to coordinate transformation, check in with their job or family responsibility checking in on their sibling or ill family member. Let's be real, school days are long and demanding. A short break to listen to music, scroll through content,
030helps students focus and less stress. And the american association of psychology confirms this. Now I understand the concerns about phones in class, but lunch isn't class. And last time my focus portal, I was not receiving a grade to attend lunch. Instead of more restrictions, why not build trust with students, set expectations, sure. But also give us room to breathe. Freedom with structure, works better than constant policing. So, I want to end with a question to the board, staff and parents, what do you do during your break? Thank you. thank you, landyn? that's a hard act to follolo I want to ben by cognizizin the genuine intent by our cell phone policy. I know how deeply board memebers, DR. Hepburn and our school leaders care about student success and I want to express appreciation. That said,
031we also have the responsibility to represent student voice. I believe it's important to highlight just here in my sole role, that role is to represent students, our constituents, not to share our personal experience or personal experiences, but to share what students are telling us. We had a chance to hear from students at every campus affected by this compass. And -- policy. Students understand that phones can be a distraction but they also see as essential tool, staying connected with their family and a personal way to feel safe and clear. So in many cases, we however this this case, we have over 30,000 of our high school peers who have voiced their opinion on this issue, that's what we intend to share with you today and here are the facts. When asked about their agreement, 92 percent
032of high school shared they either disagreed or strongly disagreed. when asked how the policy has affected their learning experience, 39 percent said no impact. And 41 percent respond ited neglect 2I6 lea februarieding their experience. When asked what concerns they had with the policy, our students overwhelmingly shared that decrease in access to technology for school work were the reasons behind their disagreement. And when students were asked how the policy affected their well being, 49 percent, 49 percent of our students had a negative affect on their mental health and 33 percent said it had no impact. That's straight from the stakeholders affected by this policy. I recognize these results are not surprising. However to me, it's important to understand why students are feeling this way. In our speak out sessions last year, this was the common topic
033and students shared a desired for one time where phones are allowed. Concerns with school staff being on their phones while telling students to not be on their centers. The most common point, that the policy made students distrusted and not respected. So where do we go from here. Students have shared a desire for cell phones during lunch. 7 percent of the school day as a chance for students to reset, decompress and connect, that does not mean that every student is going to go on their phone on lunch. in fact, many engage with each other even if a cell phone is accessible. Limited still maintains the boundary. And it I would argue that it reduces the temptation for students to sneak phones during class because they know they'll be able to use it during lunch and it
034sends a message that we trust our partners, we have very very cleared and detailed rules and expectations in place, if a student violates this policy and if a student takes advantage of this privilege, they will have to deal with the consequences. I understand and respect the concerns that have been raised but I believe there is a space for policy that works for students, parents, educators, and administrators alike, that's a compromise students are asking for and I believe we can achieve it together. In closing, I want to thank the superintendent and this board for fostering a culture. Let's continue to work together to build schools that reflect structure and a-rated student experience. Thank you. thank you. MS. Bulman. thank you, chair. So I started out as a very anti cell phone parent and my children will
035tell you that I have a lot of choice words about cell phones and think feelings and them being used a lot of the time. And it was very disappoint ing I guess or surprising to me when my son started 6th grade and so much of the curriculum and use of cell phones was necessary to do things. He didn't have a cell phone so that leads. I've been on the side of being more anti cell phone than not. But I also want to be practical. So you know, we can all go back to the nostalgia when we didn't have cell phones and everything was great and we didn't have to deal with this things. I used to arrange for rides in the cafeteria with the pay phone but having a lot of students in school, I
036can tell you that that is not how to works. There are no more pay phones in the cafeteria. People are communicating with their cell phones and really coaches, clubs, everything else, all those communication whether you have practice, whether you have a meeting, whether something has to happen, is all communicated in apps. As much as I don't love that, that's the reality what looking at our culture today. It's important to look at our culture and work within it as well as we can. We're very responsible for teaching our kids how to use technology properly. We don't think that as a cult' have done a good job of setting an example. I don't think we have a good culture around that. But my experience as a parent, has been, I think also spoken before, that the ban
037that we have in place right now is being enforced but you know, on a teacher to teacher basis. I don't think that it's really been a priority. I think there is been, sneaking of phones like landyn was saying, you're sneaking around trying to use your cell phone now and it's still happening. So I, I support the amendment to allow lunch cell phone use because I think that there needs to be a designated time when people can make those arrangements for after school and get in touch with rides and figure out what is going on in a place where they're not going to be punished for that. But I would also like, if we do that, I think it's extremely important that our administration from the top down and going into the schools, is dedicated and
038focus this as a priority to make sure that the cell phones are not being used any other time during the school day. And the cell phone is a privilege not a right. You have a privilege to use at lunch but if you have any violation of the policy any other time, then you forfeited your privilege. I don't know exactly how that looks and I don't know what our responsibilities are in terms of taking the cell phones away. But really if we look at it as a privilege and you get a designated amount of time, I don't have, I don't have a problem with that. And I want to thank our student advisors, because like I said, I started out very anti cell phone use at the school. But I've had the privilege to speak to
039landyn and I know they're doing the work, talking to all the students. and something that I really appreciate, while other people are prone to get excited and know what is right for every one else, I appreciate that landyn has come and plead his case very steadily, very respectfully overall of this times and that's very compelling. Soy support the motion but I would like to have the commitment of the administration that that would be a very specific thing, that would be a carve out and the rest of the day is going to be enforced. thank you. DR. Hepburn? yes, so we'll work with the will of the board to make sure it's immaterial implemented however the outcome is. DR. Zeman. thank you, I appreciate the comments. This is something we talked about a lot. Just to
040make sure that people understand, there is good people on both sides of this. And I acknowledge that the thoughts brought up by one student at that came by our two student advisors and by colleagues here on the board. I'm going to summarize my conclusions after spending a lot of time on this. One, we don't have a strict ban on use right now. We don't lock up the phones, we don't make students power them down. There is exceptions to use that any educator can give them permission. The current policy is not nearly as strict. is would argue that we have a balanced approach to what we're doing. Two, and I think importantly, we have to think about how disruptive this policy change would be in the end. We introduced a policy with exceptions, the state has
041taken away our authority to have teach in middle school. But I like our policy where educators and schools can still tell kids if they need today do quickly, that they needed to do that. I'm sad that we've lost that privilege. But the critical part not complying with state law, but I believe, and let me check with the general counsel, would this be the change where we would have to meet again in another school board meeting to complete rule making on this policy? MS. Batista? thank you, MADAM Chair, if the board makes a deviation from the current policy that would be a substantive change, anything that does not change the whole meaning of the policy is considered to be a substantiative change. Therefore you would have to advise for 21 additional days and bring the policy
042back for final adoption. and chair, when would we be able to bring this back for final adoption, we have a meeting in AUGUST and meeting in SEPTEMBER is I think the 16th. DR. Hepburn. yes, it would be in the regular meeting in SEPTEMBER or a special meeting at a workshop in SEPTEMBER. For the regular school board meeting. AUGUST 19th would be 21 days from today but we need 21 plus a day, so that would not work. So we can do a special on the 26th before, the school board workshop. Otherwise it would be a suspect board meeting but the 26st is the soonest we can do it. thank you, school starts on what day? AUGUST 11? this is AUGUST 11. thank you. So if we pass this motion today we have to come back to
043rule making, that's 15 calendar days, couple of weeks of school time. MR. Superintendent, once we have to get signed and be in place? DR. Hepburn. I differ to DR. Washington since she facilitates that process. Go ahead, DR. Washington. good morning, jodie washington, director of student support. we would have to sc the code of conduct resigned, we do have to get them signed at the beginning of the year to acknowledge the rules. We would have to start that process over again and get new permission slips. So the that would take at least a couple of weeks. terrific. So now we're middle of SEPTEMBER by the time we get these out. The point I'm trying to make is we have a code of conduct in policy in existence right now and we have to go through that
044once. To the general counsel, would we comply with allstate laws fwaoen the start of school and final collection? Or would we not be complying with state law? Because so many had to be codified this year? I'm sorry, can you repeat that? the question for baptist, he's asking if we would be complying if we -- a little bit different than that, john. We made changes. DR. Washington in particular and her staff made changes to the current code of conduct that is before us today. With this motion, we have rule making again as you pointed out, earliest 26 to bring them back. What I'm curious about, if we're operating under the old code of conduct, wouldn't we be failing to comply through the changes? so if the, if the code of conduct is adopted as is today,
045you would be adopting all the other changes in the code of conduct except for the one that you're speaking about today. right, but if we pass this motion and have to bring it back, and again you have the end of AUGUST, earliest we can vote on the final, and middle of SEPTEMBER to get the formz back. -- forms back. Wouldn't we be in compliance with the current state laws? That are embed? right. so if the entire code of conduct is held up because of this one change and you're not approving the remaining changes that are in the code of conduct, then yes, you would be out of compliance as of first day of school. I really think that's a big deal. I do not, I do not ever broward to be out of compliance with
046state law and that's a pragmatic issue. I don't want to invite state oversight. Other districts in florida, did that and we did not. I wish this issue would have come up earlier. Because now if we hold this code of conduct, wiz triggers another rule making session earliest AUGUST 26th , we will be out of compliance from state law from AUGUST 11th to middle of SEPTEMBER. There is a women named francis who left facebook and carried a briefcase, and other media pages, they're addicting our children intentionally. They were told by frances while she worked there how not to do that and they chose to do that for damaging our children. There is no doubt that they've done that. It's one of the reasons part of the evidence that we have against them and I feel if
047this motion passes, the public is going to ask us whether we're serious about our children. You cannot sue and give more access or they're going to ask some good questions. I also argue that we implemented this policy and we largely agreed to have gradual enforcement. We enforced in inconsistent way, that's been very clear. Like MS. Bulman, I'm very interested in consistent and series enforcement withle po -- policy that we end up today. But, I feel like that there is a pretty big difference about thinking about cell phones should be available at any part of the day which I don't agree with or whether or not we enforce the rules. I believe that everything should be enforced. Since we started by the way, the bell to bell policy with exceptions, we reduced the severity of fights
048and cyber bullying and more ill, it's really difficult to tie these things together but they have happened at the same time. The evidence is growing that cell phones is causing mental problems. And the way they're causing them is kids are getting addict today social media and a other applications and they're designed to make them addicted. So I can't countnens, turning a device at any time during the day that allows people to get to sites that are intentionally damaging to them. I read a fascinating case that has pushed me farther being in favor of this policy. About a high school in california, del oro high school, their football captain wanted to raise money. She got smart phones and take a flip phone and one additional thining that add I, she got an mri when she got
049it and when she got t.It showed blood flow where impulse and focus are done. The digital detox worked. They did not only came in third place, but they were able to physically measure the increase blood flow from not having the distractions of social media on other things. Lastly, and I appreciate MS. Leonardi's comment buzz the anxious generation which has sold over a million copies, it's not a book that lost in people. That has shown clearly that the use addiction to cell phone causes mental health problems and whether it's 30 percent or 80 percent it's giving our kids a device that allows them to get into deep deep mental health problems fnlt I'll close with this, bill gates, steve jobs and mark zuckerberg have something in common, they didn't let their kids use social apps. They
050know there is better things. So the titans of the technology these things which are damaging, did not let their kids use them. I'm with the tech titans, advantages don't out weigh the risks. thank you. I'm in 100 percent. Just one more comment, chair. I'm 100 percent. I desperately think we need to get -- to let kids use the right technology, all technology and I can't wait for ten years to go by. I believe in ten years, we'll have new phones. Those phones will not let you get on associate media, will allow you to use things that are healthy for you and improving to your mental health. We still have phones that are damaging our children. And to let them use them at lunch is irresponsible. thank you, MS. Alhadeff. yes. Thank you. So first I
051would like to thank the students for all their comments today. I really appreciate the surveys and coming to speak. Second is the the survey conducted business atlantic university, I'm really interested this reading this. But one of the findings was that there was no conclusive evidence to improve academic achievement mental health outcomes. The third thing that I'm struggling with the inconsistency enforcement of students using their cell phones during lunch time. And I think it's important to look at page 122 of the administrative disciplinary from grades 9 through 12. So if colby is on a cell phone during lunch, at first he's going to get a verbal warning. My question this verbal warning also a written reprimand and is it a parent conference or and/or? DR. Hepburn. DR. Washington. it's parent contact which could be a conference
052or phone call or verbal reprimand or warning. so it's not just verbal and the parent conduct? it is both. it is both, okay. and then the second time, colby is on his cell phone he's going to get a detention and contact his parent again? that's correct. correct? yes. and then tt third time colby is going to be suspended for one to three days parent conference and loss of being able to play soccer or whatever extracurricular activity for 30 days, correct? for up to 30 days, that is correct. and then the fourth time colby uses his cell phone, he's going to be suspended for one to two days? Correct? correct. Yes. okay. And what is the average high school lunch number of students during lunch? that can vary on the size of the school. Our smallest
053high school MAY have a few hundred just depending on the size of the school. right. So, so, somebody is having to discipline this for hundreds to thousand students during lunch and then also trying to figure out what type of level that they are in the disciplinary nature to enforce the violation of this? So now I go back to it being inconsistently enforced and then maybe, some maybe there is a smaller school that is actually enforcing it and then the larger school is not. Which this is, this is problematic. so I would like to make a substitute motion. And my substitute motion is that this motion to allow cell phones during lunch, isn't affective until final board adoption. MS. Batista, is that a -- . so I'm sorry, MS. Alhadeff, can you repeat the substitute motion?
054right. What I'm trying to get at MS. Batista, is that is would like to approve the cell phone during lunch but because we need to be in compliance with state law that that would not go into affect until the board final lea proofs the adoption of the policy. So the time period that, you know, we're starting school on the 11th, the time period that we would not have the time to properly, you know, have the policy with the meetings in compliance with the timing, we cannot be out of compliance with the state law. Within the period of time, the kids could not be able to use their cell phones but once the final adoption during lunch, would wait until we're able to final adoption of the policy. So what I'm trying to get at. I
055want to be in compliance with state law but a law us to use cell phone within that time period? so, MS. Alhadeff, so you don't need a substitute motion for that. The policy would not be become final until the complete adoption of the policy. And the policy that is in the, in the books right now, the one that in existence right now would be affective policy at the beginning of the school year which is complete ban of cell phones. right but. So MS. Batista, how do we get to being compliance with current state law? But, being able to eventually fix the policy to allow cell phones. so the reason you would be out of compliance with state law would not be related to the cell phone policy it would be related to the other changes
056that were made to the code of conduct to be in compliance with law. And if this holds up the entire policy, being that the whole policy is one unit and it will be held up result of this one change. All the other changes that you made to comply with current state law would not be going into affect until the final adoption with the policy sometime in late dog. -- AUGUST. sorry, MS. Alhadeff. I thought that MS. Batista was going to say something different. I think what her question is is there a way pass what needs to be passed today and do what we have to do to bring it back on 26th. What do we need to do to make that happen? That's her question? correct. so that's a difficult question, because normally, I mean,
057this is a very long policy being the entire student code of conduct. But regularly, any other policy is one item. So, because the this particular policy being the student code of conduct has many sections and so on. There could be the potential of passing the rest of the student code of conduct and separating somehow this rule of policy. I don't think that that's a good practice because it's something that you would not be able to do on really any other policy any of the other policies that are before you here today. It's like saying, let's take out section g and you know, pass the rest of that policy but not section g. So, is, I would not recommend doing it that way being that this is one unit is one policy, even though it's sub
058divide into many sections that are potentially discreet sections. right but MS. Batista if the will of the board is to a law cell phone during lunch, it's allowable to separate out section 5c2, to separate that out and vote on the rest of the policy and change that section, correct? I would say that you know, it's not a preferred course of action. Since you have one, there is one policy in front of you and you don't have multiple policy. This is one section of the student code of conduct. So I would look at it as one unit and either the whole entire policy passes or you know, none of it passes, I think it's not a good practice to separate like I said, a section of a policy would be like, you know, if a policy
059whatever the other policies that are before you that happen to be one-page long, you were to say well I'm not going to. This is the section of the policy that is holding this up, so I'm going to pass three quarters of the policy but not the last three quarters because that's a loophole to get around the apa, administrative procedures act that requires you to take one policy and advertise the entire thing. If we advertise the entire thing if there is one change in it. So I don't I don't think you can you can make a motion to separate a section and pass the rest of the policy except for that. okay, but is this allowable or is it just not good practice? my best advise to you is to that it would not be allowable
060under the circumstances, it's not allowable for the policy so it should not be allowable for this either. okay. So MS. Batista. How would you recommend if the majority of the board wants to be in compliance with the law and allow the cell phone during lunch time, how would you suggest for us to go about that? I would pass the policy as is right now, so it can start at the beginning of the school year and then start policy making again, to bring it back with that change. okay, so we would somebody needs to make a motion on that? no, you would just adopt the student code of conduct as is right now and direct the superintendent to bring the policy back to make that one change to the policy. okay, so I move to for
061the board to vote on the policy as is right now and that we direct the superintendent to bring back the policy to, on section 5c2, for it to say high school MAY not use the cell phone during the day except during lunch break. second motion. Is there any public comment on the motion? vicente, just clarity. Is this the right time to bring up even with disciplinary, it's a long winded part how can you just look at, you've got five or six steps. If a child is caught using cell phone, you just can't go from one to two to three and remove the cell phone and put in a baggy things, instead of having their parent give up their time. Just a little tweaking that why not give all those things that a parent has to
062be to solved if the parent gives permission to be removed. thank you. Any other public comment? good morning, thank you for the opportunity. I would like for the board to consider the fact that with this policy and trying to enforce it it ads another layer of responsibility to the staff that is already stressed with so many administrative duties that they try to take care of. So now with the enforcement of this policy, how much additional stress are uh putting on your instructors and other campus staff as one of your board member said earlier, this is a time to allow our students to understand how to create balance and demonstrate that you trust them and not try to imprison them on their campuses. So I would ask that you consider that when you do your final
063vote on this particular item because again you're creating another policy that ads another layer of supervisor and responsibility and discipline and matrix that's has to be entered and followed through with the students, thank you. Any other public comment. I've been waiting. So MS. Leonardi. On this particular item I have a question that relates to the motion. So last year, we made a change to say that they couldn't use the cell phone at lunch and it went right into affect, right after we made, we voted on that and I'll say I didn't vote on it. I wanted them to allow them to have it during lunch. MS. Batista, can you explain how last year how we had our board meet anding it was brought up to change it. That went into immediate affect but we've had
064this conversation about allowing it to go back to the way, basically the way it was before last year, and yet that is the substantiative change and we cannot do that you be -- but we did do that. Can you explain? I will differ to DR. Washington because I don't remember last year. so if my memory serves me correctly, it was during the second workshop in JUNE that the board had thed discussion regarding the restriction on cell phones. The language that went to rule making, did not change. It was actually changed during the second time we work shopped the policy which was this late JUNE. okay, I remember it happening at a board meeting. Thank you clarifying. I agree with MS. Alhadeff, we should pass today what is here because we don't want to be in
065compliance. But if we agree that we're directing the superintendent to bring the policy, that piece of the policy back on AUGUST 26, at a special school board meeting in order to be able to change the piece that we would. So if we did that on the 26th, we would have to go another time then, can you explain what that the timeline would be if at the 26th special school board meeting, it was brought back and it was voted to allow students to use it at lunch time would it go into affect at the special school board meeting? no. So when the policy comes back. Son just one piece of the policy can come back, the entire polilicywould be up fo le m makin anu ll start to start again, you will have the first thing
066pursuant to our policy 1,000 is bring it to workshop and then it will come subsequently for a final vote to a board meeting. So you go through, so it would not need to come to a special board meeting, it would have to go to a board shop and then it would come to another? correct. You would start rule making all over again. okay, I just wanted to be clear on the timeline. Okay. So then, anyway. That's my thoughts, I think it makes sense although I would rather make the changes today, we don't want to be out of compliance and it seems if it's a it is a substantive change, so it would still be put off. But I also agree that students should be able to use cell phones at lunch. I have not varied
067from that from the very first time we started the discussion for all the reasons so I'm not going to bring them up again. But I agree with the motion that MS. Alhadeff has made. MS. Leonardi. thank you. I have a, I would like staff to detail how like the rollout of the code of conduct and collection of signatures goes at a school level. But I want to give my experience with that five years ago when I was a teacher at nova high school. So at the beginning of the school year, we would handout the code of student conduct and other document to our student hall class. We would give about a week to return the forms signed. As I student hall teacher I would have to keep a log of students who returned. Those those
068students who did not, I would have to call the parents and ask them to again, sign those documents. Sometimes that would go into SEPTEMBER or OCTOBER, having to make repeated calls to those parents. I guess I'm wondering, is that process the same now? Are we doing any of this electronically? DR. Washington? the process is very similar. It has gone electric and the form is available through the back to school forms. Each school has maintain a print copy. But for the most part, we do encourage our parents to complete all forms. The school administrator determines comma track. One life steal, does that still happen? yes, that happens wnt two weeks of school. thank you. One of my questions and I think I know the answer, there any cost associated with redoing the code? Like going through
069that process again? is there any financial impact? we don't print. what would be the impact of changing the student conduct, it sounds like it might go into OCTOBER. So we, we go through the process of collecting the signatures, reaching out to parents, having administrators reach out to parents. So we go through that process at the beginning of the school year, what would be the impact and instructional impact of redoing the process again a month or a month and a half after that? yes, I certainly think there is an impact in redoing the process. The first week or two, is more introductory forget thising paperwork done for the type of activities to let their parents know what is going on and require their paperwork to redo the process a couple of months later, especially right after
070the first, we're testing for pm1 and analyzing data making our adjustments. It does have an impact on the academics in the classroom to stop and pause and go through the process again. That's the honest truth on that. so if I'm the study hall teacher having to do this all over again, I'll tell you it would take several hours of my time, and I'll just share this to end with. When I was in the classroom and this is part of the reason, I ran for this position. Policies would come down from the board during the school year. And it would be very disruptive and the kids would say to me, MISS Why are we doing this? And I would say, because it makes the least amount of sense. And to me, this makes the least amount
071of sense to put our students, our staff, through a change that is so disruptive and that is harmful to kids. Thank you. thank you. MS. Thompson. I'll make my comments quick. Have we ever made policy change in the middle of year? MS. Batista. I think staff would be better suited to answer that question. since my tenure in operations, no we have not changed those policies during the year, but we change policies throughout the year that don't impact the class operations. okay so in the year you've been here, we've never done it? But typically we change policy. I think it is clear that there are five votes. I am a little discouraged by this process because my understanding from the workshop, that there was also consensus there but because we're workshoping 1040, we'll figure that out.
072This was coming down the pipeline. So again, have to push it off is incredibly frustrating and confusing. However I strongly believe that this is the right thing to do for our students, for our families, and with that, I'm going to call the question, because we've been talking about this for an hour and a half. all those in favor of calling the question. aye. in fairness, we have to give DR. Holness an opportunity to withdrawal. MS. Alhadeff made a motion to goes, she made it in substitute of his. thank you for the clarification. all those in favor of calling the question say aye. aye. can we have a roll call. no. roll call on to call the question. School board memebers. wait, can you repeat the motion so that everybody knows. there is got to be
073two different votes. One to call the question and then vote on the actual motion. I believe the motion on the floor is to pass the policy as it is and direct the superintendent to initial rule making for the portion of student conduct that deals with cell phone. so include the cell phone usage, I want to be crystal clear on what that is next. correct but right now you're voting on calling the vote. Alhadeff. no. bulman. no. Yes. cervera. yes. hixon. yes. holness. yes. leonardi. yes. rupert. yes. thompson. yes. zeman. no. it fails 5-4. I believe you need 6. all right, DR. Holness. thank you. I just want to make mention, based on the advise of MS. Batista, I will support the motion but I also wanted point out that looking at the data that we
074have, based upon school board survey, which we didn't point out before, in addition to students overwhelming supporting the use of cell phones, we also have majority of parents disagree with restricting cell phones when we had asked that question in the survey. We had 50 percent of parents that disagree with restriction of cell phones during lunch time as opposed to 34 percent who agreed. Majority of parents support the sell use usage by students during lunch time. These are students who are, many of these students are doing extremely well academically and I believe that, here hearing the voices of our parents and our students as well. all those in favor of the motion say aye. aye. any opposed say no. no. roll call on the motion. School board member, bulman. yes. cervera? I'm going to ask for
075a point of clarification, I'm con voiced. -- confused. This is what happens when you go back and forth. C2 that was presented, this is what we're voting with the caveat that superintendent is going to bring this back? definitely. point of clarification. So if we, if this motion passes, do we then have to vote on the item as a whole? is it all our nothing. passes and redirect the superintendent to initiate rule making for 5c. This would be the whole item. so if a no-vote, if somebody was to vote no or if we vote no on this motion, would we then come back to the policy as presented to us? if the motion fails, you would have to come back to the item. so the substitute motion fails, then it goes back to DR. Holness's motion.
076MADAM Chair, MS. Batista, MAY I withdrawal my motion. the answer is yes, if there is no objection of the members. okay, so I would like to withdrawal my mossing is there any objection? Okay. we're doing roll call on MS. Al hadeff's motion. So so the motion is to pass the policy as it and direct the superintendent to rule making, as it relates to cell phone usage during lunch time. Without the redirecting of the. okay, I'm going to start roll call on that motion. School board member bulman. now I'm confused. We're voting on alhadeff's motion. Yes. cervera. no. holness. yes. rupert. no. hixon. -- zeman. no. alhadeff. yes. passes, 5-4. so MS. Batista, do we have to vote on the original item now? MADAM Chair, I'm sorry. MADAM Chair, MADAM Chair. I have a comment on
077another section. okay, hold on one second. There is more pieces. Go ahead, MS. Alhadeff. okay. So page I believe it's 138 on where it says, weapons b. And it's under the second incident, so the first you're getting an out of school suspension and the second incident and they're getting more too but the second incidents speaks to the intervention program. DR. Hepburn? DR. Washington? I'm sorry can you clarify your question about which piece going into number one. yes, weapons b incident is which just to clarify what I'm talking about with weapons, weapons b we're talking about none chucks, chemical weapons, ammunition, bullet clippings, devices, et cetera, et cetera. So the incident, second incident, they're having a recommended program making mandatory. so the matrix is set to be progressive and the recommendation for district behavior intervention programs
078occurs on the second offense. On the first offense they get a suspension of 6 to 9 days. I want to distinguish between weapon a which is the most severe, thaer immediately expelled. Just to be clear, removal of their students from their traditional environment and placement in a district behavior intervention program which is operated in our three locations, we have cypress run, and lanaoer and pineridge so it is through the lens of progressive discipline that it happens on the second offense. okay. I would love to get more information on the behavioral program. I hope this is not something that we're going back to the promise program. So I would really like some more details regarding that and would like the superintendent to look into whether that is something that should be under a level one incident.
079DR. Hepburn? thank you, MS. Alhadeff, that is noted and we'll take a deep dive and review that. appreciate, thank you. thank you, MS. Rupert. it already went through, so no problem. thank you. All those in favor of item one say aye. aye. any opposed say no. aye, as amended. there was not an amendment it was a direction to the superintendent. Okay. So you're a no? I'm a no. the only one I heard no is from the vice chair, did anyone else vote no? me, nora. just to be clear is the for the item in front of us unchanged. with direction to the superintendent. we already voted on that. Okay. so I have 7-2 with leonardi and rupert as descenting. zeman is no as well. got it. okay, thank you. The next item is item 2.
080Sorry. Let me get back to my script. MAY have a motion is is a second on item 2, audio recording. motion. been moved by DR. Holness seconded by MS. MS. Bulman. Is there any public comment? we have MS. Lupscom and MS. Shoeman. Speaker: good morning, ckck,, I support this policy and I support the chair's motion but in fairness, ese advisory and your community has not been able to provide any input other than three-minute increments on this microphone since last OCTOBER. I did not call for community meeting because we need this to pass. But you have explanations to come back to me with some sfons to points. So I have put forward in writing and in fairness then I get a chance to respond to those can we have that. Can we stop the clock before
081you decide. I have pleaded for dialogue so we can hammer through every point. madam chair, I know you've got points to go through, so can we do it in that order? can you stop the clock for just a second. I'm not sure what you're asking? Speaker: so you have a list from me, of the various points that we still need addressing. You have addressed some of those in the motion that I have hand over at 9:00 am. So three minutes does not go through them. That's why I wrote a 2000 word essay for you. You know what the points are, I've live%backs listed them for you. For example, the must rather than MAY. Those kinds of things. I can't in fairness, speak in three minutes talking blind and you're discussing things that we have no
082ability to respond to. I have pleaded, pleaded for an opportunity for us to have dialogue, you have staff at the table and student advisors and it's not fair in your community for us not to be able to go through and get responded to the various points that we've raised so they're brought to a good conclusion? I'm going to say that I'm going to make motions that are on here, and you'll be able to respond to them. There are piece that's were substantiative changes that will not allow it to move forward today. We donough the policy will have to come back, once legislatation looks at it looking at a waiver and I'm happy to sit down and go through the discussion. But it's just not, it's not going to make sense in a board meeting like
083this, it's not a workshop. Speaker: it would have made sense give advisory. To sit down. I want to remind folks, this is a welcome policy. I'm grateful for it coming forward and in essence, most things that are important tweaks and I brought them for a reason not to stall but the stalling has been at the other end. If you pass this policy, you'll be the first district in florida to do so. The executive summary, for example, says that this applies to traditional schools. It will applies to all schools with ese classrooms. I'm a little trouble by the executive summary saying it only applies to traditional schools. If that's the case, it does not say so in the policy. I'm not talking about contact schools that's another matter. The parent consent, I understand that is a
084gray legal area. So I support MADAM Chair on your push to bring that forward. There are still outstanding issues, one of them namely being that when a parent requests to pull video of a suspected incident, they be allowed. And you have agreed in this room. And any ese will tell you, preceding circumstances and interactions in a classroom can have impact on an incident and provide inside as to how it occured. That would be allowed for safety reasons without the parent consent. So I'll leave that there. There is my three minutes. thank you. Next public speaker. Speaker: felicia shoeman. Speaker: good morning, MADAM Chair and board memebers. My name is felicia sueman coconut creek. I'm speaking on audio recording in ese classrooms with the written consent of all parents. With over a decade of experience work
085withing mental disabled, this is not just about compliance with cameras, it's about protecting children that are non verbable and not able to communicate. These students deserve to learn in environment that are not only supportive but safe and parents deserve a piece of mind. Let's be honest we live in a time where there are too many cases nationwide and yes, even locally where educators have abused their trust. These incidents are common and unreal. By approving this policy, not just not authorizing a camera, and truth. Cameras can help protect innocent educators from always accusation while protecting those. It requires full parental consent and builds a successful pilot program right here in broward county public schools. It's a responsible step forward that puts safety first without over stepping boundaries. I urge you to adopt policy 4900, let's be
086proactive and let's continue leading with courage and care, thank you. thank you. Any other public comment. no further speakers. board discussion, I don't normally go first but since I have a bunch of motions I'll go first. So based on the feedback from the ese advisory chair, I went through all of thur suggestions there are some of them that are also very valid and actually make the policy stronger. But it will be substantial changes and require to us move this down the road. So I chose not to make those motions today knowing that the policy will have to come back once legislation hopefully changes it and we don't have to include opt-in, only opt-outs. That's just a broader idea, why instead of 11 motions, there is only 4. My first motion I gave a paper on
087my colleagues, on the phone, they don't have a copy. My first motion is to strike the words health and physical from the first paragraph so that the policy would actually say to promote the safety and well being of stutd enters in a self con stained exceptional student ese classroom. And the reason that I'm asking for that change is first of all, it doesn't really toelt to their health it's truly about their safety. Yes, sir. for the members online, if you can refer to your chat box for a copy of the motions. thank you. And not just physical well being but mental. I think it's more, it's clarifies it a little bit better, so that's why I'm making a motion. second. any public comment on the motion? yes. The legal change MAY not come for months.
088So when you talk about burt tweaks, legislative MAY not be more months. And secondly, when you refer to substance tiative change. There is nothing further that you can do today and you did do substantiative change on JUNE 26th, massive change and it did not return, let's apply the same standard. The policy was not published to us, you had a workshop date set but MR. Sullivan specifically asked whether you returned to set the clock and you said no, at that workshop. MS. Batista? so that was not, I don't know the question, I guess, I don't know what MR. Sullivan was asking because the, the and that comes back for final adoption. That's the prosper sue enter to statute. At the final adoption stage, that's where you need to continue the rule making process. thank you. Any
089other public comment on the motion? Speaker: good morning, DR. Nathalie lynch-walsh as somebody who come through the policy, I would like to support you and the ese chair but I don't have a copy of what is being proposed because it's not public. Every time, we get input it comes down to the wire. thank you. Thank you, any other public comment? Board member comment on the motion? All those -- okay, MR. Is cervera. point of clarification, we're now voting on motions that going to, I guess not this one but ultimately, we're going to be voting on motion that's add substantial policies to the policy. Is this going identical with the first agenda where we'll vote with your amendments which we'll have to come back and workshop or can we vote to change this policy today to
090go into affect as soon as the votes are taken? MS. Batista? so, thank you, MADAM Chair. So the motions that are being presented that are here in this paper are rearranging words, they're not actually changing, they're not making any substantive change except for number one, I don't know what the actual. Adding words or crossing out the words will have an impact on the policy. So that would be more of a substantiative change number two, three and four, well, so then, if it's the same as one, both of them will have a substantiative change because you're taking words out you're deleting health and physical, so it does have change. It's more than just a technical change or rearranging the order. so if there are substantiative changes that are greater than grammar cal. yes, it would be
091the same as the other policy. I'll just say, I spent an hour before the meeting with MS. Batista going through all of my motions, and she did initially say that motion 1 and 4 would not have substantiative changes and changed it now. So I'm a little frustrated. I just want this to pass. I'll make just 2 to 3 just so we can move along. But I would not have put them on there. yes and I apologize, when I did look at it, it did not seem like a substance I have but -- substantive, but taking out two words, why remove them. Anyway. I apologize, if I, you know, if I confused you. just trying to make this as simple as possible. So I'll make two motions. I withdrawal the first motion, is that okay that
092I withdrawal the motion. sure. great. okay, so my next motion I move to change 2, to read the same, view, and all visual recordings of all areas, that is used for other purposes. So this, it just says yaou and make visual recording because that's the intent of the policy. that's already in the policies. This is just adding, making sure it's clear. any public comment on the motion? Speaker: can you repeat it. We have no written? it's number 2. Speaker: number 2 on the original printout? yes. Speaker: so number 2 on the original motion but you're withdrawing as a full motion. Yeah, I would support that. But you will see on the essay that I sent you, I also said if you change it to view and make a video recording all areas of the self
093con stained classroom that is used for other purposes, and then add the wordings with the exceptions a as being limited, because otherwise you have a con extra contradictory set up. Only view a classroom but only specify. So the chair's amendment could take care of that. Sorry, but the, the moving without limitation language is needed because the policy goes on to define that there are specific limitations. that's removed from there. It does not say without limitation. Speaker: that's not what I'm reading here. What you provided on the sheet is not. with the exception what you find on this policy because it's written in another part of the policy. Speaker: exactly so it contradicts itself in the next paragraph. I hear what you're saying, but we agreed that's not the case. Board member comment on the motion?
094Public comment? All those in favor say aye. aye. any opposed say no, motion passes. Second and last, I move 2c to read an audio visual placed in a self con stained classroom must not record a restroom or any other where a child's privacy where students change their clothes or under go diapering, and it was smithing, because what I was written was awkward, it says the same thing just a little more clarity. second. any public comment on the motion? Speaker: thank you, I support it. That was my word smithing, but it clashes with the first point. You now have contradictory language, thank you. thank you, any other public comment? nathalie lynch-walsh. For those who don't know, jackie is a writer by trade, when she is word smithing, it would behoove the board because she cares to
095make it flow and she has expertise in writing, that's what she does professionally. I trust her word smithing, I trust what comes from this because it have to be written again, but I support what you're trying to do. thank you. Any other public comment. Board member. based on the feedback, MS. Lucekum, mentioned contradicting language, and would I like to hear from I don't know if if it's MS. Batista's role is it contradicting or not? MS. Batista? it's not contradictory because it's just a section to section a, one section that all areas will be volunteered and audio, and the next section is not the areas exception to the general language so it's not a contradiction. okay. thank you. Any other comment. All those in favor of the motion say aye. aye. any opposed say no. Motion
096carries. Okay. MR. Cervera. thank you, MADAM Chair, realizing that we're probably a way off from some type of finale, I do want to talk in generalities, about what is being proposed. First and for most, I support this agenda item, allowing the video recording. I think it's important for a litany of reasons and perhaps the most important being the safety and well being of our students, perhaps our most vulnerable students that are entrusted to us. I would also like to point out so somebody in the about particular is aware of this, our great govern passed this initial statute back in 2001, this idea of cameras in the classroom was in fact a pilot program. And that pilot program was for a limited time and it ended. It's my understanding from speak to go staff members that
097we are the only county in this entire state a great state of florida, that is still using this program. I think we should be very proud of that. I think we are blazing trails here, as they say. And I fully support this and I'm confident that my colleagues and I work very hard to get some of this language hammered down and finalized. But overall, it's a great idea and great for our teachers and administrator and our students. And I'm proud to support this and continue to support this all the way to the finish line. Thank you. thank you, DR. Holness. thank you, I'll be quick. I do support this item. It's an absolute great item and great initiative to have audio visual recording. There has been too many problems that we encounter in the past
098without having this. However I want to say that if a parent object, then obviously we cannot have it, is that correct? MS. Batista. that's correct. and if a parent did not consent but they have students in that classroom, we still cannot have it? Correct. that's correct. okay. So I again I fully support the item and thank you for bringing it forward, thank you. thank you, and so it could be an opt out, so we do look forward to having those discussions and hopefully pass that legislation. So we know and that can this policy will come to us. i think it's amazing that we're going to be the only district to offer this to our stud nts and we want to move it forward but we know the policy is not perfect. And I hope that
099moving forward, staff will work closely with the ese advisory to look at some of the changes that have been suggested. And make it a reality. MADAM Chair, I had my hand up. go ahead. thank you. I'm going to be supporting this item. Most importantly, for us giving the voice for the voiceless in the classroom. And I think it's supporting our students. thank you, all those in favor of item 2 say aye. aye. any opposed? As a &ed, sorry. Any opposed say no, motion carries unanimously. Thank you. At this time we're going to recess and move to the school board workshop to be cognizant of our committee's time. So we're going to take a brief recess to five minutes to switch over and we'll move on to the workshop and then we'll come back to the
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