School Board Workshop - Aug 12, 2025

001testing testing one two three. welcome to today's broward workshop. This workshop of school board of broward county is now called to order. : please be reminded of the exit doors that are clearly marked for emergency exiting. While in the board room refrain from obstructing exit doors. Once the board room has reached a seating capacity, attendees will be designate today a overflow area. Upon activation of the fire alarm system, please exit from the room in an orderly fashion and continue to exit the building and remain outside until the authority that has jurisdiction that's deemed the building safe to return. Thank you for your cooperation. Board member rupert will now introduce her school to lead us in the "pledge of allegiance" of the flag. MS. Rupert. Okay, I think she is teams but I would like to

002welcome charles elementary to lead us in the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under GOD indivisible with liberty and justice for all. please be seated. Thank you. great, thank you so much. As we begin to begin this school board workshop we're reminded that our vision is 100 weser proficiency for all students. We begin the vital task of sustaining this achievement. Our theme this year is believe, empower achieve one broward. Today's workshop will operate in accordance with school board policy 10:20 and the board will review the items as advertised and presented. Our first item is committee reports. We will now hear reports from the following committees. Is landyn on teams? Yes. John, do we know? Okay. So we'll start with the council

003advisors to the board. We'll start with broward county association of student councils and student advisor to the board. While we're waiting, mary is the audit committee chair and she is out of town. MR. Rodes, can you update the board on the contract issue? yes, so we had some discussion about whether or not we would be able to utilize the existing contract and use the 5th extension, or the 2nd of two extensions and we received the information back from legal telling us that there was a partial agreement na is being put together and being sent for different parties to sign off on and if that ends up happening, and based on the documentation that they had, it looks like the parties are already to agree to what is in that agreement, then we would have the

004situation where we would not have the process where we would have an external independent auditor for this upcoming year. so you'll continue to update us? I will. great, thank you. are we ready for landyn? Okay, we'll come back to them then. Then we'll move to district advisory council. Speaker: good morning, my name is name is cynthia dominic aoek the newly elected chair of the council for 25-26 school year. I want to start off by saying a huge thank you to our past chair DR. Natalie lynch-walsh who really dedicated her life and service to making sure that our students in broward school gets the best and was a source of guidance and support for so many of us and her commitment for accountability for broward schools. We're excited to start the year off. We know that

005we're an a-district but I would be remiss if I didn't say thank you to all the staff bho work tirelessly for our children. Whether it's the janitor who's take out the trash. The bus drivers who make sure they get on school at time and those that greet them with a high-five. And I hope that as we move forward and the board make diction sxz staff members make decisions, we consider all the students and all the people in our schools who really are the reason why we're an a-district and we make sure that they're fully supported and that they're compensated so that they can continue to teach our kids and provide, the services that they previeed to our kids here in broward schools. I'll be meeting with the superintendent tomorrow, so that we can review some

006shared goals for district advisory as well as opportunities that can potentially be addressed. Our first advisely meeting is on AUGUST 209ing right here at kcw. All are welcome. We look forward to seeing all the accountability if you have not yet appointed somebody to district advisory, you can please do so and send that email to me as well as our liason shelley winter. Our area advisories, they're independent groups that are created independently by school board policy and it's a shame that they're not permitted to provide reports here at the workshops. They're our largest group and represent over 75 plus schools in each of those areas and they are grass roots and they are consisted of principals, teachers, district staff, parents and students and you all don't get to hear from them. So I hope that going

007forward that that can change. North area will be hosting a staff training on AUGUST 28th on soon, on teams, and their first general meeting will be on SEPTEMBER 18th. Central area will be meeting on SEPTEMBER 18th at 9:45 at indian ranch and south area will be meeting on SEPTEMBER 17th at 9:00 am, at pem brooke pines middle school now. Some of the things that we need to have a successful year, many of our, our area advisories certainly don't have access to broward school emails and actually at this time, many of us who did have access to those broward school emails are not able to access them. So we do need access that so we have access to teams to run meetings as especially as we want to allow our liasons to not not on every

008meet thating we have and still facilitate those. Some of the things that have come up in our stirring meeting and will be on our agenda going forward, student issues are always important. So making sure that all of our kids are reading, all of our kids are getting access to the resources that they need and great quality teachers and being fully supported so they can succeed is our priority. But we know that so far, not all of our schools have nurse sxz they probably won't have nurses. And as we listen to the board meetings and as we look at the financial situation that the district was in, we hope that those cuts are do not affect our schools directly especially as we watch that, people at the top are getting raises and our teachers are not

009getting raises and our parents are not getting raises. And, and now we have schools without nurses, or we have schools that are sharing assistant principals and so many other cuts that are directly impacting our schools. That's been a sourur of cocoention for ny schools becacae it'sa a huhuge urcece inmeme fothemas they suorort programs at their schools. Thank you. thank you so much. next we will do we have the student advisors ready? Land nn yn? can you hear me. Thank you for accommodating this, as it's a second day back at school so I appreciate you making this accommodation. It was a great return yesterday for our broward county school students. It was nice to be back in the halls and have those experiences. So just want to say thank you to every one who made that

010happen yesterday. I know it's no easy feat. So thank you very much for every one that put in the. We have laufrnld broward school's.Com/students. It's kind of a soft launch with some readvised links. And we've done a lot of work to make sure that it's the new board that I'm using studentized to make sure that students understand what the lingo is. Of students saying these are the resources that we feel we need and we don't feel we're going for. I want to thank them for their support. I say soft launch because it's the firstetitiation of it. It will continue to be to make sure that the resources kind of match where we are in the year. I will be reaching out to the superintendent to share the concerns that we're hearing now from some of

011our student government associations and maybe just some, different interpretations of the policy in terms of when it got back to the school level. so seems like in talk withing students in our schools it's an easy fix so. In the spirit of continuous improvement and making sure that we have a policy that works for our students as well, we'll certainly be reaching out to make sure that we can share that feedback. Our next joint student and school board discussion will take place on SEPTEMBER 24th at the SEPTEMBER 24th school board workshop. We're really looking forward to that, to have students come and share their honest and authentic feedback about their school experience. That will model the same format that we followed back in MAY. So board memebers, please stay tuned within the next week, you'll be

012receiving a link to share the topics that would you like for students to discuss exactly similar to the way we did it last time. So that way we're making sure that the discussion is beneficial for students being able to share their input but also beneficial for board memebers to know what are the pain point that students are sharing. It will be unique because it will be a month of school in so we're really looking forward to that. And also on the vein of the student initiative, we'll be hosting our first kickoff call and training with our designee in high schools. So there is a ton of staff, too many to name. I'm grateful that they know who they are and I'm grateful for their support and making it happen. And final leon the topic of

013our committees, our students will begin attending school board committee meetings within the next weeks. All our appointee have been shared. All of those appointees have been shared with the staff facilitator and with the chair. So if anyone has not received those, please feel free to reach out to me and I'll make sure that they get to you. We're really looking forward to a broad range of stutd enters this year from all over the county being able to sit on those committees. So as I said in the beginning and will reiterate again, I'm looking forward to an amaze ing school year and I know our students are look forward to an amazing school year and I appreciate being able to join you virtually and I'll be back next week. Thank you. great thank you so much.

014Next is the ese advisory council. Speaker: good morning, every one. Jackie, happy new year and thank you to every one who worked so hard yesterday. I know there was a lot going on out at schools most people had great experiences. Those who didn't, I know folks have been working hard even over the weekend to try to smooth their passage. So thank you. I know you want to hear our dates I'm not sure why, I spent time on ese advisory, next meeting is AUGUST 15th and ace meeting autism subcommittee SEPTEMBER the 2, 10:00 am talking about mental health typically it's suicide prevention month. Alyssa has called some great great speakers and resource to see share with parents. And our down syndrome committee meets SEPTEMBER 25th, they're holding on SEPTEMBER the 12th and exceptional educator training day

015in collaboration with ese committee and it's for all educate who ares provide service for students with down syndrome. This is a wonderful example of things that your ris vaoez and your parent volunteers are out here doing collaboratively to serve students and parents. I would like to emphasize that the work of an advisory chair goes beyond a monthly meeting. So some of us find ourselves with more to report and restricting our reports to minutes of meetings is not going to be fruitful. So I'm going to give a little mid-of -- order report when I do mine. I was happy to have a chat with xhaoef student services officer. Some days back to discuss moving forward this year with things we can be mutually helping reach other. Some problems that need troubleshoot anding some communication that can

016be better, how we can all be working together. And we want to go over very important issues. So I was grateful for that encouraged that she is going to be there overseeing some issues for us. Cameras in classrooms, despite all our attempt and some of us that gave over the summer to work withing B.C. Ps on the communication that would go out to parents, know what this camera program was all about and why the consent was so important. And the consequence if they don't sign consent and that communication then didn't go out and other communication went out that did cause confusion. We're out here trying to smooth the muddles that have left behind that and the letter in the q & a. And we still don't have proto:s I have not heard of a single

017camera. On transportation issues. Have been very predominant, I know folks worked really hard to short some cases, very grateful for that. But every year, we do identify some systemic problem wz that, and one of those problem south side your policy which, transportation does not follow a child from school to school. So if you folks have to move a child to say a cluster program, and their local school does not provide for that. They're not necessarily receiving transportation. We have problems with parents who need to get their kids do school with p-pecks, those extended care facilities where they're receiving therapy its, the therapy its that enable them to come to school next day but transportation is not being provided unless it's three quarters of a mile. when we try to encourage parents, okay we'll put transportation

018in the iep as si service, they all work against, we had one case last year where staff were instructed not to allow a parent to do that. So we have parents locked in the transportation, and making them B.C. Ps is making, if a parent was moved or student was moved out of your am-P.M. Program. Avenue to (Inaudible) Shortages, no ese students at all. So a lot to go through. But I look forward to a collaborative and fruitful year. Thank you. thank you so much. Next is facilities task force. Speaker: good morning, board memebers and superintendent. Linda ferraro representing the task force and on behalf of our chair, kimberly, facilities task force looks forward to a productive and collaborative hear. We thank DR. Hepburn and MS. Paul for joining us last year and we look forward

019to seeing MS. Paul more this year. And we extended an invitation to a school board members at one of those meeting. It's been a while since we saw the school board memebers at the meeting so it would be great if you attended. The committee is with no vice chair, no recording secretary, no corresponding secretary. Hopefully we'll achieve quorum next month and we can elect people to the appropriate positions. And since we did not have quorum, we did along with assessment by bureau of aritis. And master plan status, we were able to secure a copy of the rfq as if it was not provided to the rtf so that the committee was left a priced. In JUNE we did pass a motion to get three-year implementation plan. Atf will be following up on that motion. Thank

020you. great, thank you so much. Next is parent community involvement task force. Speaker: good morning, erin ghoul, vice chair of the community task force. And I want to echo the gratitude for every one who made yesterday such a great start to the school year, well done and thank you. The parent community task force held a virtual meeting last week to continue planning for several important events and initiatives in the coming weeks. We were joined by staff members and our students advisors who's perspective really enriched our discussion. We're excited about the nonprofit forum which will be held in this room from 11:30 to 1:00. Our theme is rooted and readiness. This gathering provides an invaluable opportunity to hear directly from our nonprofit partners in way that we can expand collaboration to better support students and families.

021This year we're excited to integrate in addition to feedback, so that we can collect more nuance and actionable feedback similar to what we did to forum so we're excited about that. This will allow us to gather both qualitative and quantitative data and removing barriers to engagement and we'll share that report with board memebers and superintendent like we did for the secondary to run. A big thanks to nadia and eric for their partnership in make thising event possible. As we shared at the last update, we have five parent university scheduled for the school year. Topics will include helping parents navigate the focus platform, digital tools and resources available to parents. Preparing for key academic transitions, including kindergarten and middle school and we're going to time those to really try to drive people to choose B.C. Ps

022and we're grateful to DR. Wilson and rached boeinginand entire innovative learning team for their collaboration with those. We're planning for our SEPTEMBER empowering parents conference which will be offered simultaneously in four languages tone sure accessibility for all families. The conference will showcase the many pathways and welcome partners and connect them to district resource to see student learning at home. And you heard these through all the reports but we spent a lot of time talking about policy 1820 and about concerns in regards to the implementation of it and its impact on volunteer groups in our schools. There was strong consensus that the current guidance can create significant barriers for parent community and involuntary engagement. There was a lot of passion in this conversation and I think you heard that from different stakeholders groups. I want to

023give a big thank you to eric shifm for his listening and dialogue as we talked through way to see improve the policy and implementation guidance that has been given to school leaders to ensure that does not get into the way of family engagement. We appreciate the district's willingness to consider community feedback to ensure policies support and never hinder, a share goal of strengthening family and community engagement. We look forward to a great year and thank you. thank you so much, and we will finish up with reports with technology advisory committee. Speaker: good morning, linda ferraro. SEPTEMBER will be a year since we passed a revision to tax policy. I will be following up on the status as I see has not come before the board yet. I assume I need to follow-up with MR. Sullivan

024on that? thank you, repeat? Speaker: it's been SEPTEMBER will be a year since we passed tax revision to the policy? And it has not come before the board yet, so I would need a follow-up. which policy? tech, technology advisory policy. follow-up with trey davis, i would not be bringing that item. But I'm happy to work with trey. Speaker: from what I'm gathering there is a gap in the procedure on how it moves forward. we'll figure it out. Speaker: we'll figure it out, we always do. Currently we're experiencing technological issues that utilize the browardschool.Com has been locked out of accessing their files and emails and any other pertinent information. This is pertinent to me because I do not have email list. Hopefully it can be rectify this week in order to have a meet ining SEPTEMBER

025otherwise I'm looking a at a first meeting being in OCTOBER. I contacted a few people on it and I'm gathering they're working on it t.I have notified MR. Davis about it. And thank you school board members who have sent in to my personal email their appointments. I do appreciate that and I'll follow-up with the other board memebers in the event you send it to my tech.Chair email. And I have extended an invitation to MR. Davis to join us to provide information as to what he sees the future of the district's technology is and extend the invitation to all board memebers to participate with us. We always appreciate a board member be being there. Thank you. thank you and before I open it up to my colleagues, MR. Davis, can you give us an update on

026the email access? go ahead, MR. Hill has the information. just is to confirm that the emails have been activated as of this morning, so all chair emails have been activated as of this morning. thank you. how do we know? did we send them a notice? it happened like an hour ago, so we will make sure that they're notified. Thank you. thank you. MS. Alhadeff? so I was just wondering if the superintendent can give the board an update in regards to how many schools are without nurses? yes, I'll have MS. Ho lenzworth give information on that. so if I can get some context around the nurses. We have nurses, we don't have a finite number of nurses, there is a nurses for students we're at 63 schools that don't have a clinic nurse which is what

027we had in the past which is, all schools had clinic nurses but we're now staffing the schools with nurses for need that medically required. We staff the nurses accordingly. okay, and if the superintendent can follow-up what the financial impact would be to fund the 63 nurses so the board can, you know, act on it if they choose to. will do. thanks. MR. Sever? cervera. thank you, chair. I heard that none of the comrades in the classrooms were operating yesterday? no I said at least first 300, but I'm doubtful but I have not heard, I have had no update. do we have any information? MS. Aegan is here to provide an update. good morning, diane eagan. Based on our report, we have almost 4,000 families that have responded to the filling out the consent form at

028this point, we're pulling a report to determine if any of the classes have 100 percent. I do not believe that they do as of yesterday. So what we were guaranteeing that once we have 100 percent parent consent, then those cameras will be activated if we have the camera or installed if we need to install it. thank you and I appreciate it, these cameras are operational and ready to go, we're just waiting on the necessary parental consent forms to be turned into the classrooms? so there is 277 installed cameras in the district left over from the pilot program approximately. I don't work in it but I will tell you we started with 300 at the time. More cameras have been ordered and they're informing me they're arriving already. However, they'll be rolling those out. So the

029goals is to have them in our self-contained classroom. I wawantto differer MR. Gregory. left me asa a follow-up before that happened. Assuming tomorrow, you get 100 percent participation. For the cameras that are currently installed and I understand that there is going to be a rollout. But for the ones currently installed, if you get all the needed consent, tomorrow, do you have the ability to turn the ones that are fully operational? yes, absolutely. They're if they're already in the classroom where we have the 100 percent consent. I understand. Now would I like to hear from MR. Gregory. so just to reiterate, the ones na we have currently available, are ready to be turned on. Once request is received, we have 1100 percent compliance and there is not already the camera installed, they will then initial that

030process which could take a few weeks to get wiring and everything else that is required. So that will be on a case by case basis. thank you, MS. Thompson? thank you, chair. I had a couple of questions. I know 80-20 is enter and I've had separate pta reach out. I want to get an update from the superintendent if that is coming back to the board. yes, thank you for the question. That will be coming back to the board, we o our own meet to go go over every line in the policy based on the feedback that we received from board memebers and from ptsa and pta groups. And we will bring back the policy to address many other concerns that we heard. and then will that policy go through the looping process? before I turn

031it over to MR. Sullivan, the other group that we have not heard from, and landyn if you're still listening, if you can follow-up with us soon or tomorrow so we can get the student feedback. absolutely, DR. Hepburn. you want to go first, landyn? no he was just confirming. I was confirming. the policy is coming AUGUST 26 for rule making and final adoption OCTOBER 7th. but the draft has gone out. Have you received? so the way that looping works, so we've unofficially, looping is only initialed. It's not automatically a policy, it's either the board directs us or the superintendent does, so it's not automatically looped. my question s I feel this was one of the policy, that I'm not pro looping all the time but that was one. so the board can direct us on the

03226th. Remember if you direct to us loop, that prolongs the final adoption. understood, just trying to figure out the process. Because sometimes we get different time lines from different people. we're trying to expedite this. We understand the pain and we don't want to send the message to the parents or nonprofit organization that's are doing great things for us and our kids that we don't want to partner with them. There is been an informal looping process by gathering feedback, ptsa and pta nonprofit to update so we can bring this this back as soon as possible. so reiterate it's coming back to the AUGUST 26th. One more time? AUGUST 26 for rule making. OCTOBER 7th final adoption, unless the board gives us a different timeline on the 26th. okay. we're having a special for student code of

033conduct on cell phones as well. thank you for that. And then I wanted to understand the chance portation issue that MS. Lucecom brought that up for busing. If I can get some staff clarification or update on that. absolutely, I have MS. Holensworth or MS. Eagan provide explanation on how we schedule bus for students. and also for the after, you said aftercare programs are not being able to attend as well, right? It seems like there is two transportation, do you clarify just briefly the two? yes, there is multiple transportation concerns. One even just at base level is students who didn't have transportation on day one at all, despite their parents having done everything. And then when that spore the attention, the families being told okay your bus will start on thursday. There are students who are

034not attending schools until thursday because they have not been provided a bus. I don't take no for an answer and that's problematic for some people. There needs to be somebody from B.C. Ps from that pushing day one, I'm sorry you didn't have a personal out reach to the parents and apology and a right to the situation saying from tomorrow morning your child has a bus and if we cannot get a bus to you, we will arrange something. I don't know how you deal with that problem. I think too many times many departments are saying, transportation call the shots. If the transportation is in the iep. Second is if students can't get, because aftercare is always have a capacity anyway. But they have a lower capacity for ese, because they MAY not have to start for

035them. So they're operating enough, but it does not have equity. And so, in knows circumstances, parents are stuck. Like. They can but they're not being told they can asked to be bused to another school that can't provide for them in some situations. Other students who are stuck which are part of their educational need and arguably therefore should be provided the transport by B.C. Ps but the transportation, wouldn't because there is a policy that says if only deviate by three quarters of a mile. I know you had a workshop on buses but it was not about this kind of issue which is not just antidotal widespread. so I think just summarizing the three, transportation not happening for our ese students, the first week and the second aftercare and then the pink packs. What is our policy

036and what is the status on that? okay, I'll do my best I don't work for transportation but we work closely with them and partner with them on every student especially with a challenge. In regard, when you do ese transportation it's a different than our general routes because it's based on our iep, we're legally required to provide transportation school to home, home to school, however we do have alternate policy that parents can apply for but it has to meet that policy guidelines but it does not add more than ten minutes to every child ride because it impacts other students as well. So because the transportation is individually done from the safest, closest spot which is often door to door transportation, then they have to be routed individually. So transportation, I know we were reaching out to

037them and they were reaching out to us, so they tried to get it routed as soon as. But if there was an impact, if the bus route changes for the other students, they have to communicate with the other families as well. There is 1100 percent reasons y it could change the address. So all of those things have to be taken into consideration. So especially at the beginning of the year, they're working fast and furious to get everybody routed. So in regard to the p-pack situation, we try our best to provide transportation to p-pack but when it's several cities across, I know that transportation is unable to create a special route. So we work with those families, individually to try to accommodate them and think of solutions. And we are able to come up with solutions

038if a family has their heart set on a certain school. We try to work with nem on considering a different after school program and we're work withing a particular family now. But if they were set on the specific p-pack, we would give them school assignment to accommodate that p-pack. So we're commit today working through each individual families, even though we're not legally required to provide after school care. We're trying to come wup a solution and we collaborate with them. We've been in collaboration with many families and work withing them personally with their challenges. so if a family is having issues, do they reach out to you or transportation? Who is their customer service point of service. we would work with any family that calls us, no matter what other department, we collaborate with, we're happy

039to do that. We're happy to have them directly to us, we'll get somebody on it. We know the other complications. transportation, has obviously, they're working to provide transportation and they have the policies that they have to adhere to. So we run those through transportation. If it's not feasible, then we work with the family oncoming wup the solutions. So we prefer that they come directly to us shah way we work faster to get a solution in place. And they're not all the same solution, that's why we do it one by one. We have to taylor it to the individual family needs. and then do students apply for the buses for the ready to ride program? at this time, our ese students are not using ready to ride. It's one of our goals that we're going to

040work on transportation only. Currently, they apply when they go through their iep process, but I've been talk to go them over the past year on way that's we can work on other solutions. Again, I don't work on transportation but because we work closely with them I'm doing my best to explain. And if I'm missing anything, MS. Paul you can jump in. I appreciate that, would having it on ready to ride have solved these day one issues potentially? just my opinion, I think that's a process we got to work through. We have students with unique needs and to go through register to ride which every regular students does, you can have a situation where that student's unique needs are overlooked and then they're on a bus where they MAY not be getting the services, for some

041if it's a bus aid or whatever unique services, they have. That's why it's not registered to ride at the moment, it's going through a process at a different channel. thank you. That's my questions. did you want to add something? yes, thank you. Sorry I did want to add. People don't know where to go. So if you've been told, you can't have a bus or you -- or you're not get a bus until thursday so you'll have to stay home or two to three weeks, they don't know and they're not told so. When we're hearing they can come to us, they don't know that. They don't know who to come to, they come to me, some of them and then I route back them through. And this is why some people are working, people like diane

042and transport have been doing over the weekend cases as well. So there is a communication issue. Parents aren't being told, we're sorry, here's why you're not getting a bus. There was a mess up, I do know that in some cases students went rolling over to pt web from focus that resulted in some students not getting buses on the first day. It's that kind, it always comes back to how it's dealt with B.C. Ps. there is not a transparency of communication, there is not a sorry, we'll fix it, here's what happened. It's a kind let's close the curtains around it, sometimes. And just on the issue of work withing parents to offer them a different school. When parents are told in APRIL or MAY, your child is, you know, moving to a class to pre-k, here

043are the clusters that are available and thed parent says I would like that please, and they do that in APRIL. And then they're told they're it not getting transport. And, the only solution is if they change their p-pack which is really difficult to do, a child creates a record there and a bond with stuff and therapist. That I couple of days notice, they're going to have to change the entire school. I get that that has creating solution sxz people hands are tied but all roads lead back to the transportation department to policy to things that could be freed up to make that easier on parents and every year, we don't see that happen. And maybe this is the year that there needs to be a sit-about and roundtable about it. thank you. DR. Zeman. thanks,

044chair. I want to follow-up on colleagues points. On the looping of 80-20 to the superintendent answer, MS. Thompson, I'm comfortable if you're implying should we laof this more with getting the next school shop forth w the looping while it was not directed by this school board, there is been tons of looping. And I think we can find a better solution. But I do have a question about that. Until we come up to that solution, MR. Superintendent, what policy is in place about charging nonprofits for using facilities? what's the current policy? yeah. yes, 80/20, I don't know if you have any specific, MR. Sullivan and most of the staff that are associated they're not out here, they're out and about supporting schools today. But it is policy 80-20. so we have not imposed new rates. the

045policy has been implemented as written. oh so it is revising. So looping won in her best interest. We've got to figure out whatever the solution, the board comes up, there is been tons of loops. -- looping. I do think we need to think about looping, that's something in our authority and we rarely come up with a discussion and say. How about these groups. And judge beyond advisory council. Advisory council are deep deep knowledge but there is other groups as well that we might start asking to be looped in. On the transportation issues, this is been something that has been a persistent kind of feeling in the back of my mind. And for a long time, i consulted with private sector groups and they do things like racy charts where there is a definition of who

046is responsible who is accountable and who is coordinating and who is just involved? The second you g yeah but I need somebody to look at these high los. And it's the a that I find all too often, I need somebody to stand up and say, I'm account, this is my job and I'm responsible for it. And, I, I just want to kind of tee that up as kind of an issue for this year which is to think a little bit about how does our staff at broward county board schools. I think we're at the point that we're not dealing with tactical issues, we're dealing with static and strategic. And that's where it gets harder. You're work withing buses for a sub set of 90,000 students. So I'm going to, put down on a kind of

047a drum beat so that we think about a little bit about it and we continue to think about that as we flush out the new cabinet as we flush out a much more organization. I think we're at the point where those are the kinds of issues that we need to work on next. To MS. Ghoul, one, thank you again and all of you for being here today and landyn from coming in from school. I'm glad you're attending some school today, that makes me feel better. There is a nonprofit meeting coming up. I'm sorry can you tell me the date again. AUGUST 27th. and tell me the intent of that meeting. we bring together nonprofit partners, or people interested in being nonprofit partners and we hear what is working well and what are the barriers and

048we take that information and we bring it to you all and district staff to say how can we improve upon this, so we can make sure that there are strong channels for our nonprofits to be working in our schools. so the focus is aspiring nonprofits. yes. can you give me a top ten list. is know I should have looked. The boga villa house, which I always say wrong. We have some arc, south florida, broward education foundation is one of our respondents and we're excited. We have some faith group. Csc is always involved. Our municipal partners. So we can share a list of who is responded so far. I just want wondered if you wanted take a advantage, we MAY add early learning row coe a will ising, programs that we're familiar with, to make sure

049while they're funded through B.C., that the word gets out to them. yep. we have a list and they're doing remarkable things and I would like to know about those successful programs. Two things, one, how do we validate that you're really that great. Because sometimes they walk in, how do you know that, oh we did a survey. Can you send us a data. So it's part of the government's role to make sure that these folks are, creating some positive outcomes and generally they are, but it wouldn't be too surprising if our estimate right side slightly less than theirs. But some of them are really doing remarkable things on mental health, on security on teenage women mental health. And for those programs, knocking it out of the park, I would love to figure out a conduit and

050maybe it's through this meeting, where we can expand them this year now, double them, maybe they go from 10 to 20 schools and then consider them for programs that make sense. There is so many programs that we have today in thth25256 scscol year that 20 yes ag weidn't hahave in owview, it takes too long to find out where the gold is. But if you would send me the list, I would be happy to add. There is a lot of them, I'm glad you're doing municipalities. They're doing more and more. So if you can share that, we'll see if we can help. DR. Zeman, that would be fan it tastic. And if there is any questions you would like to us to include on what we're asking, please send those to either myself or nadia clark,

051our liason, because we want to make shao the questions we're asking can inform your decision-making. that's terrific. last point just for general knowledge because we're at a workshop. Things like nurses are important. I believe a school has a nurse, you have a liberian and nurse and bunch of people and other people that are doing GOD's work. But I cannot imagine a school without a nurse. Wife watch it happened but now that it has happened, I'm second guessing it. The context is important. We lost 80 million dollars with declining enrollment. Some mentioned that there have not been pay raises. How much did we increase educators pay? about 3 percent. and we do that when we lose 80 million a year. So the narrative has to be consistent. This board found money along with the superintendent to

052continue to pay educators more even though we're getting less revenue. How does that happen? We try to consolidate things, that make sense. We take cuts on nurses. There is a bunch of things that this board has approved and this superintendent has offered up to approve that allows us to increase the pay of educator during a period where we have less money to spend. I wish the sunset, the media outlets, and advisory boards, and school board members would start conversation wz that statement. We get less money, florida is 50th out of 50 state in funding education. And we get less money this year than last year, by 80ish million dollars. Plus or minus, a couple of million and we continue to find money to pay educators more. That's the story and I hope that we can

053figure out how to change the priority of the legislature in florida. I think they're way out of whack. I think florian want to spend more money. But again, last year, we did not get an increase in funding. It did not even cover the cost of living increase and we got 8,000 fewer students in this year's budget on top of a 30 million dollars almost shock to our title 2 and 4 funds. On top of $100 million payment to charter schools. So there is been a big shocks that affected our budget and yet we still continue to pay educators more and that's not easy. Thanks a lot chair. thank you. I'll round this out. Just a couple of things. I know that, we it's good to hear that they have access to email but aren't all

054committees also suppose to have a web page? Can you give us an update. Do all committees have a web page? that's a continued work in progress as we migrate all information from the old site to new site and developing new pages for such as committee and advisory as well as some other things. But, I know MR. Sullivan or MR. Hill want to add to that. we're going to include it in the training as well in SEPTEMBER. explain to me what that means? What do you mean you're including it? Do they have web pages or they don't? they do have web pages. They do have web pages, yes, we just have not rolled it out, which will be the next workshop topic that we'll talk about with the trainings but that will be incorporated with the

055trainings, how's who should upload to all of them so all of that will be ready to go as of next month but they do have pages as of right now. perfect, thank you for that answer. The other question I have for the superintendent, also question on nurses. Do we partner with either memorial or broward health where they would be able to provide us with nurses? Either part of the day? we, we partner with a lot of organizations. The partnership actually provides nurses to us. I'll have MS. Holingsworth have a recollection. department of health. department of health provides nurses for us. Other organizations do not, they kind of provide some support and training but the department gives us people as far as nurses are concerned. so do we, do we use any of our own budget

056money for nurses? yes. so they just smriment it? -- supplement it? correct. I would like to throw out there that maybe there is a way to work with people beyond the health department to maybe, provide those 62 schools, whether it's full-time or part-time nurse. we do and that's also a cost. It's the same as having our own nurses, that would help us with training and reviews and things like that. It's a cost, I know the team has been talk to go as many people as possible as the sro dollars that has supplemented. So, even with those other partnerships there is the same costs. well I would love to explore a partnership that didn't have a cost, maybe there is something that we can provide in kind where they would provide the nurses in kind. So

057if that's not part of the conversation, I would love to have you expand it. absolutely. 80/20 concerns. I'm a little frustrated with that, only because we've spent a lot of time on the policy. We changed the policy and I think when it left the board room, our thought was we had solved a lot of these problem because it did rollout and then we brought it back again. So now we have to bring it back another time. I believe in part of the conversation or part of the policy, there is a part that says, the superintendent has some discretion for some of the contracts and facilities. right. so in lieu of having to wait until possibly OCTOBER or later for those processes to go into place in another revision of the policy, what, can you do

058now as a superintendent to alleviate some of the concerns that are happening with the PTAs, the PTOs, the scouting? All of that? That is part of what the policy allows? yeah, so my discretion is marginal, it does not alleviate all the costs that it would incur. That's why we're bringing it back. It would help slightly but not to the point that some of the organizations are experiencing costs that some of the organization right side experiencing. We addressed some concerns, we addressed concerns that were in front of us. So we're trying to holistically address all the concerns that we've been hearing throughout the summer. I think the first editration, we brought it back. And then in the summer we started to hear from the constituents that's why we're making sure that everything is addressed so we

059don't have to bring it back. I specifically had this conversation with MR. Shism and MS. Paul. I really would like to look back at what it says, the leeway of the superintendent is, because I believe that I know that I as a board member believe that when this policy left here, that you had some latitude to a law them to come in without the hassle that they're having, right? So I would love to, I guess I'll pull that policy and see what the wordings. superintendent, can only waive the custodial and personnel costs. so we had the cofs -- costs is utility. So one of the reason to bring it back is to spell it out in policy. I don't disagree in bringing it back but I thought it was solved. And if it's the only

060cost that it costs utility. and the rental fee. So the, rental fee was the major costs and then also utilities was not in the policy, not able to be waved. But I would tell you, this is about my fourth or fifth time dealing with a non school use of facilities. And often times when you put a policy in place such as this, you see other things that evolve from that policy and that's what we're seeing right now. So we don't want to rely on the superintendent discretion, we want to put it clearly in the policy that rental fees can be waved or waved for pta, your boy scouts and that kind of things and utilities can be waved and so forth. But this is not uncommon with this type of policy. Quite honestly, we don't

061know what exist out there in the schools and when you put a policy in place, that's when everything bubbles to the top and you start seeing who is actually using the facilities. thank you, I appreciate na. but I, also believed that we did waive if you were a partner in education, that it was not going to cost you especially pta, I'm not sure how it, it maybe I'm remembering things wrong. I appreciate it's coming back. I just want to know how we can make it easy enough for them now instead of having to wait because school has started and you're turning away a lot of people who just can't afford it and they're not going to be able to wait until OCTOBER. We had the same issue with the scouts last year which is why

062we brought it back and spent all that time on it, because they were getting these crazy bills and we didn't want to lose them to other organizations that would allow them and take our kids with them. So, I appreciate coming back. I just feel like there is parts in here, that we could make this easier for them. So I hope that we're exploring them. And my last question, and then I see MS. Leonardi's hand. The cameras, 4,000 forms completed. That's grai. How many forms would we need to have completed to have 100 percent participation? MS. Hollins worth? in other words, how many students are in the classes where cameras would be available? That's fine. Speaker: go through and analyze that they're in the special program class as well. so I just want to get a

063percentage? So 50 percent is pretty good, awesome. yes. and what are we doing to encourage and inform that the other half of the parents or at least, most of them are filling that out in the next week or so so that we can move forward and be able to provide this? absolutely. We have several different methodologies. We've created some letters that they can use for their families so they can send that out. We've been sending out parent links. We're trying to send them two to three times a week and then offering them to call if they have any questions. Our website which is posted this morning so we're going to include that in there in case they want to go to look at the q & a. So as our school staff goes out and

064provides school support we're encouraging them tone courage the schools to keep on get thating information out there. also, would love, and I know it's a lot but a personal phone call, to those Speaker: yeah. maybe not at a 4,000 need but maybe by friday, origining of next week if they haven't turned them in to start actually doing a personal reach out so that, we can make sure that we're capturing as many. we'll make sure that is included in our guidance. thank you so much. MS. Leonardi. just to add to the sense of urgency around 80-20. I'm wondering, well two things. I echo the chair's desire to resolve some much these issues immediately within the con confines of the policy and law. But to really try to work hard to try to make sure that schools

065that are having trouble are able to do so and can really resolve some of those problems. But as we go back and revise the policy, I would really encourage a scenario in which we have all stakeholders go through the system to kind of do a trial run and figure out, so if these are the changes this we made to the policy. This is how it goes through the system. What potential issues can arise? 'cause I think, I share the chair's frustration that we keep bringing this up and issues keep popping up so. If we can have PTAs sit down with the team and other stakeholders that are encountered these issues that would be helpful in the process of bringing in policy back. MS. Bulman. I agree with MS. Leonardi. My question is are we looking

066going through the facilitateron and looking at all the users, the hip I can is the policy and there is also just, my understanding is what the drop down menu are, whatever is coming up when you're trying to sign up. So people are having difficulties because they're being charged for things that they MAY be should not be able, that's just the say the facilitateron is being set up. so if we can coordinate that to universely fix these issues. I'm biting at the bit here. Keep in mind that the policy had not been updated for a long time, right. So in, in using facilitateron bayeds on the policy. So one we amend the policy and I think probably our attempt to try to cover everything from the past ten years and put it in a policy is

067kind of where the complications came from. So I'm, reviewing the policy along with the team and we were really too specific, you know, we should of had really large categories. And so we're going back, we're revised it, to mack it more user-friendly. And not being 80-20 speak and I think that will solve it. But again, as we identify different things that come up along the way, you know, hopefully we won't have to bring the whole policy back, maybe we can amend through our procedures and so forth. But yeah, I'm very optimistic that we will not see this policy after this next round for another five years. That's the goal. hopefully, that's the case. I appreciate your optimism. thank you so much. Briefly. part of policy 80-20 was the partner and education piece that refers to

068the banners and that's been a major source of the confusion for PTAs and other groups that, insert into contracts for signage and advertising at the schools. We, we had a meeting with eric shism I think like two weeks ago and it was like a three-hour meeting. So perhaps, we've invited him to dac but if he can hold a public information where they review the policy and get that feedback. Going from group to group to group some people MAY get left out. and the banner policy is separate. It's not the same policy. if I MAY, chair. So we've already had discussion buzz that policy, and had discussion wz general counsel also. We'll be sending out information soon, maybe today or tomorrow so ease the pain in the transition, that I think is going to help ptsaoh

069or pto groups and they can start implementing the policy. That is some of the pain points, JULY one was the hard date and right, it, you MAY have a contract with for a banner that extends until OCTOBER. So it's difficult for the person you work with the banner and all this other stuff to flip like that. We are trying to work together to make sure it's an easy transition and when the banner, whenever the ptsa work, when that sun sets they can start something different. MS. Alhadeff. thank you, DR. Hepburn. The other pain point is, the ability for them to have pictures and faces on the banner, MS. Batista, can you speak to that? MS. Batista? sure. so there is no prohibition having a face or picture on the banner as long as we do

070have to mote fie -- modify the policy. To include that. The reason we changed the poll zoo is the speaker on the banners is district, it's government speech, that's what the banner represent. That means that the district is thanking its partner for their work with the district. As opposed before where the banner represented the speech of the vendors or companies. So it's a little bit different. We did that because it aligns better with the first amendment. right, so they'll be able to do face sxz pictures on the banners? If we change the policy? we can do faces on the banners if that's something that the board would like to add to the policy. MR. Hepburn, are you bringing the policy back? if that's the wish of the board. I was not planning to bring it

071back as part of the transititi policy. But ifif is the wish of the boararto brinit ck r whatat yoyou just spo abou wewe caca bring it back to the future. as one board member, I would like to the policy brought back to have pictures and faces. right now, you can only have pictures in the banner if it's part of the logo. My understanding is you cannot have the photo on the banner. so I have clarification on it, because I think it's logo would be branding and especially for our realtors and people like, they're branding is, their picture. So is it possible that that could just be like read that way so it doesn't have to cycle back to the board? I think that's what john said. if it's part of your logo, you can have

072your photo. That's part of your logo. for realtors would be like keller williams? yeah, so they would be able to put their photos. but they're an agent so their logo is their face. we have -- opposition to bringing the policy. I'm trying to find a loophole to not bring it back. If that could be interpreted that their logo would be their face. If you get information from realtor in particular, I know other businesses are, but realtors buy it because they work for keller, they work for a realtor company. So I'm just wondering, is there a way that the policy can be interpreted like that or does it have to be brought back to the board so it can be spelled like that. I'm not sure it's up to us to interpret policy. that's going to

073differ to MS. Batista. that's who I was looking at? bono friend. It does not sound luke a logo is usually the photo of the person. I think that's something that they add onto the company, in addition to the company that they work for. that's the way that I have seen it and I would not read the policy that way. So I think it does have to go back for a change. okay, I agree with the MS. Alhadeff. Just to include that, it makes sense and seems to be working, it's mainly that. DR. Zeman. I was just saying what a great idea. is there anyone who disagrees with bringing the policy back? so if we allow the pictures and are we also allowing images? We're saying as well? well when the policy comes back. is that

074going to maintain the protections that we inacted the policy for originally? MS. Batista. yeah, I mean, I have not researched that point specifically about the protections but I don't see any reason that it would not as long as we make it, you know, standardized across the board for all the banners if there is a picture, it's going to be certain size, you know, and again, it's more of like our speech saying thank you to those companies. okay, so anybody disagree with bringing the policy back? no objections. all right, superintendent? it's noted. okay, great. All right. Thank you all. Yes. sorry just one comment on 80-20. Is there any way that we can phrase any agreements. It's affected their budget that they passed last year, so they're going back to revising their budgets for this year

075which eliminates teacher appreciation week, supplies that they pay for schools and things like that because of the impact of it? so if I'm not mistaken, pta should not have to pay anything. I have the policy right here. And it says that they don't have to pay. I'm hearing they're paying 80 percent. where did that come from? I have the policy. yeah. I don't know we need to get a copy of the agreement. if I, chair. I don't think interpreting it on the dais later on today. if we can. I'll send a follow-up how the policy should be interpreted as it is before it comes back. okay. can I share one thing. Direction was sent to principals to convey to PTAs that if they were holding events outside of the traditional school day, direction was sent

076this summer principal that they must convey. and I heard about fundraiser but looking through here, it says if the money goes back to the school, you don't pay rent. We spent a long time on this and felt that, and I don't understand and I know you're going to come back, but I think there is a misinterpretation somewhere in here and if there is not, something happened between when we spoke and this changed but anyway, I'm frustrated, I'm just as frustrated, I think we all are in, I know, you know, you don't want us to read through this right now, but by the end of tomorrow, they're right, the schools are getting ready to do things now. We can't wait as I said earlier until OCTOBER to resolve this, it really needs to be done in

077the next week or so. one clarification to what I said. I think where the disconnect is pta is bringing money to break even for events. We sell tickets to dances and there is a misinterpretation in calling that a fundraiser. To the school community so. I think there is dis correct. -- disconnect. but in the policy, it says if the money is going to the school. but what is being conveyed. MS. Bulman. can we have an emergency order suspending some of these problems? Being on the ground, I don't know how it's going with my colleagues I'm getting a lot of concerns from various groups. So if we have, you know, the pta is a great example they're only work to go support the school. So, any interference with that is just bad for us and bad

078for the kids. And I know there is also other issues shared use with our property and things like that with other nonprofit partners because of the, is there a way to suspend that so we're not interfering with all of these partnerships that are supporting the kids and the schools? MS. Batista. so I'm not sure I understand the question. she's asking can we do an emergency suspension of part of this policy? I'm being if -- is there like a stop gap measure that we can take right now until we can clarify what our policy is? so from my perspective, one step is look at the policy and mike sure it's being interpreted accurately. I do have some questions as to that. And then, from there, the only way to change the policy would be to go

079through a process of rule making. so is there an emergency on how the policy is being implemented. How do we do that quickly? MS. Batista. this would not go in the definition or fall in the definition of emergency, it would have to deal with welfare and health of students. and an expedited? MS. Alhadeff. so I would say that we need to expedite this policy along with the banner policy as quickly as possible and maybe in when we're at a school board meeting, we can refund some of these groups that should not have to pay. what if they don't have it in their accounts? Not every pta is as successful and some are just starting. I appreciate that but I'm not sure that would resolve the issue. maybe DR. Hepburn can figure out a way to

080get them to be able to. I'm listening as I said before, if you give us time today, hopefully wiier done by 3:30, if you give us some time for the red lines, if you give us time today to go back through and sit down with general counsel to come up with the exact interpretation to alleviate the most pain so we can educate all the impacted organizations and also let our school leaders know. chair, I think we can do this faster. We don't need to reconvene, look at the direction given to principals and see to what extend he would like to make changes. They're consistent with our policy but do whatever we can. Maybe we charge them but don't collect the money until NOVEMBER, in which the policy happens to change. that's what I'm saying. there

081is cret -- creative solutions. If there is no objection by any other school board, the intent is to direct them to alleviate the community concern about changes that we made to 80-20. every one agree? So be as creative as possible and as generous as possible. objective is clear. We wholeheartedly agree with everybody. but we don't need to reconvene we just need an email. their team is going to reconvene. our team is going to reconvene. I thought it was us. Staying in the 9:00 P.M. it sounds like there is a disconnect between the memo and policy. So if you resend the memo and redefine what it should be that MAY clarify until the policy comes forward for a more accurate change. But put it on the credit, put the credit on volunteer hours. that's part of

082the objective, thanks. thank you all so much for coming today. MADAM Chair. I'm sorry, it's MS. Rupert, I've been waiting for more than half hour and I did text you and john sullivan said he was going to talk to you. Before you leave with the let the committee chairs leave, I have a quick question about focus and to see if we did another push out to them with the difficulties for the parents and the teachers to actually get into the IEPs. I know I emailed to DR. Fulton and she put that into motion. But I'm still getting reach outs from teachers. I don't know if it's through the superintendent if it's something that, we can push out to teachers and say you're accessing the wrong, the wrong number one, thing to get in, you're doing

083last year's where you need to be on this year. There is still confusion. So parents can hear, oh okay, let me go and look at this and teachers can hear that as well. thanks for the que, MS. Rupert. I know on my end, I have received one email and I think the board received that. I don't know if we have other concerns. If we have concerns, it goes to emily copa for who is champion the focus implementation. I don't know if MR. Davis or MS. Fulton has anything else on that. MAY I just say something, I've been bringing out focus issues for years and I don't have a pathway for getting them resolved, I get silenced when I email. So this interest us too. It's not just this issue, there are so many. Thank you.

084DR. Fulton? DR. Hepburn, we did receive the email from the teacher who was having difficulty accessing his IEPs, we did reach out to the teacher. Other than that email, I have not personally received any additional concerns about teachers having issues with accessing their IEPs. and MS. Davis, if you can speak if MS. Copa has received concerns. I appreciate that. There is been a few that we have received, relative to the custodial parent, if it's a second aur' not having access to the forms to the students. But this is as designed. When we have spoken to the parent or secondary, that has been resolved but we few that came through the queue. So. MS. Rupert. thank you. Thank you MADAM Chair and staff. I appreciate that. I did want to just directly ask ms. Lucecom if

085she has heard any parental little problems when they're trying to get into their student stuff? thank you, if I MAY. Yes I have. And they are problems that have persisted for an entire year and longer. And I would just like for folks in here to know, as I've said many times, I'm not lying when I tell you that staff have given up specialist in particular have so many incredibly bad issues with focus sss, it was undeveloped software, we still have no plan for its continued build out. I cannot get even response from emails when I ask about it. I just send again to the people I emailed. We need to take it seriously. We need to sit down with end users and take their concerns and the deficiencies of the focus sss platform seriously. The

086responsible response I keep getting in here, listen, we made a decision, build it out. Have a plan to build it out. We all need input I could name 10 billion that have never been resolved and people have given up seek that resolution. I appreciate that. I truly wanted you to hear boots on the ground when it comes to parental involvement and seeing how much of an issue. I know we all get, people calling us emails us, texting us in the grocery scores. People come up and it is an issue. It's definitely an issue in north broward and I'm assuming since I hear from other people that it's in the whole part of the district. What I think is the mind set of this board, is that listen, we need to address these issues. We need

087in this amount of time but what we really need is to actually go to the ese population and ask them, I don't know if that's a survey, I have no idea if it's in-person. I would prefer to actually have somebody there that can work us through almost like a tutorial, we understand it's a problem and we need to work together. I appreciate DR. Fulton and her team and MS. Davis, you know, dealing with this one teacher one. But many people that are still silent and I would be remiss as a board member and ese mom if I didn't say this and make sure that doesn't go by the way side. So DR. Hepburn, I hope you can hear me with that. And my board memebers my colleagues, if that is something that you would agree

088for us to have, I would love to hear what you think right now. DR. Hepburn. thank you for the inside. We did do a survey and sent that to the board about say over a month ago. We can resend it to get it back at the top of every one's inbox that surveyed every one. Who participated so we can put on top of the inbox and forward that to you again. And then, whatever the pleases the board as far as additional information they MAY need. thank you and I did know about the other one, I read through it but a lot of people are on vacation and as they are coming back, school is starting. I believe that if we did it again, that would be helpful. so. Board memebers anybody want to weigh in?

089There is value in doing, since it was just done in the spring to do that survey again? MADAM Chair, I can give feedback. When the superintendent mentioned at a prior meet abouting having there being a survey about focus. I checked in with a number of folks still having issues and they said it was very focus survey and they didn't feel it was pathway getting specific ese issues heard. I have articulated and I plan to go ese advisory survey, as specialist and end users support facilitator. They're even having trouble with students not showing up in the system. That's critical and they don't feel there is a pathway for resolution. They have given up band-aid. They've been told, this is how it is. MR. Davis, can you address? Are you familiar with some of these concerns? Is

090there a way that we can better get that information to you? Should people be emailing somebody else? How do we resolve this? MS. Hixon, trey davis chief information officer. We have routine dialogue relative to focus, the phased implementation. That has been shared with the board through a memo. but internal emily copa who is a directer data intelligence, responsible for focus. She has open dialogue, you noah cross the district. Any concerns that come through, they come through our queue and sorted personally and that has worked out pretty well for the people who have made that contact. And we've briefed with that the state of the project and the cinema. But there is always room for improvement in my eyes. So if there is additional source, we can get feedback, fantastic. if I y, go ahea d

091DR. Zeman. I'm a data frequent, I love looking at data. In this case, I'm not supportive of additional survey. But what I am, ese professional in the system and everybody who supervised ese to say use the existing system. With all do respect, if you're an government employee, you don't have an option of quitting. Not option of not providing feedback if the system does not work. Excuse me, I'm not done. It's critical that our ese people use the system that we have, if it works. If you submit a focus, ticket, you will get a response. I think we have 4,000 responses. we have a lot of responses. why do we want to duplicate something that we have right now, rather than encourage people who we are paying to give a system in a system that already

092have that works. if you have a law student in focus, get it in, that's track and we have resolutions. Maybe what we need is a report from the superintendent on that system. Why isn't it, is it working? Are those responses all being actually resolved? Are we going back to the people that enter that? And saying, hey, you're an ese instructor at stranhan high school, you submitted this, we think we fixed by this technical thing. Remember what we bought with focus is enterprise software used in 50 or so students. not sss. I spent a lot of time on this too. And there are many districts using sss model. So we decided to not use customized software. You're not customized to broward county. You have to be careful or else you'll get into a customized system. So

093the system gets feedback. Sxl if it is responsive, we don't need data for people. So MR. Superintendent, are you confident that our feedback system is work withing focus? yes, I was going to propose, to send a memo or some happenings to ese staff to utilize the ticket system if there are concerns submit them. All of us received concerns in the initial transition or that spring as an enterprise system for a large organization like ourselves. We're going to get those types of concerns. But since the middle of the year last yae, I have not received very few. That's what is going to be my comment is -- send a happening or some type of memo to those employees that support ese to make sure that they're using the ticket system na is very responsive to their

094needs and it helps us to address the needs as we move forward. thank you and if you could maybe give us a follow-up in a couple of months, has there been an increase what does that look like and make sure that they're following. At the end of the day, they should be emailing them, who can help them not all the different systems. We're going to try this. Thank you again. Anything else, MS. Rupert? We're running a little late. yes, I wanted to say thank you for my colleagues for listening and I appreciate the superintendent talking about where they need to send it to but if there is any problem and you've gone through the system. I know assistant is not going to have a smile but if parents and staff are having an issue and

095you already put it in there, absolutely, email me and I'll forward it to the superintendent. Nora.Rupert @ broward schools.Com. Thank you so much. thank you, and thank you for coming and we're going to take a short recess to get ready for item number 2 which is advisory committee policy and training [School board on short break] thank you and welcome back. The next item is the advisory committee policy and training series. I now turn it over to staff for a brief presentation. thank you, MS. Chair. At this time we're going to turn it over to MR. Sullivan and MR. Hill to go over the presentation. thank you school members. We come before you with a series of options for the board to move forward to provide guidance to provide guidance to for our advisory chairs as

096well as our staff liasons as well as the policy task force for policy 1070. Were revised by the board to basically bring the particular recommendations forth so we can move forward writing them into the policy and move forward with rule making. Joining me is MR. Armando who basically assisted all the committees as the liason to the liasons and who is aifted is creating the manual. With that, MR. Superintendent, I'll bring it to you for board deliberation sxz guidance. Thank you. chair, we're ready for board comment. public comment. The first person is jackie. Jaouxz%backer Speaker: or, I saw my name under nathalie. Her name is at the top of the list. my bad, nathalie lynch-walsh. Speaker: DR. Nathalie lynch walsh, because the best way to park on you like a category five hurricane is to get

097between us and liberty in the pursuit of happiness. I signed up first and this will continue until I'm done with my rebuttal which is coming along nicely. I don't know where to go. You have the two items, training materials, and stuff written by staff and then you have the recommendations from the doge committee. The recommendations from the doge committee, most I don't have an issue. Most rushed and most are new. And they didn't have the benefit on little things examine there are big things that, they caught that we all agreed on. And they tried to give support to liasons and to the advisory chairs. Understand the issue of websites and emails. I have documentation from when DR. Wanza was the chief of staff and email that was sent to narni que ue, the former chair

098that said they were going to have emails by last OCTOBER, 2025. Ha did not happen. And if you can't see it, it does not exist. But the thing, is putting due process back in. Due process was taken out after being approved by the council's office by in 21-22, 2021 and staff came to a 1070 committee meet anding convinced them to take them out. The doge committee is recommending putting back in. You live in a state where you have parental rights and that does not equal non due process for non appointees. So this will go well if you create two classes of volunteers. and I'm walking proof that you absolutely need due process because you cannot have anybody commit malfeasance to remove somebody and not have due process which is what the committee recommended putting back

099in. And then for the training series, you just this is not ready for primetime, it's redundant and ridiculous and not worth my printing out the other document that they did. Thank you. I want to point out that somes a surprise. One of the task force recommendation that is you work with them and us. I first found out about this at 1:00 am on thursday night. I have not had enough to read through all of them but I saw enough to make this comments. Come up with dates for a roundtable or series of roundtable, not just one or one there but to honor and complete the work that the task force started. I'm not sure if this item is about revising policy 1070, I've received no clue. Reminding us that I heard from the workshop for

100committee reports. It didn't mention also by the way, which is about the training manuals that we drew without you. For all the insult and inbalance that was created by it. And consciously excluding others. If we're not getting quorum, advisory meetings, we are deefficient leaders, there were folks on the task force that did heavy lifting and crafted for a you a report that has been largely ignored. Instead we have repackaging by staff of some of the misunderstanding and disconnects and dysfunction -- dysfunctionality. The practical recommendations that the task force produced sends a discouraging message, it says, you wasted your time. The training manals does not -- to help us but to restrain. There are some good elements, that I would like to add. Some good comparison about what is the chair's responsibility and liasons. Staff with

101limiting understanding, and I don't mean it disrespectfully but factually. MISS Aligned document that does not reflect actual needs and places inappropriate. This is not just a missed opportunity. It's another insult and a passion of decisions and commitment of volunteers. This approach is not sustainable, it's damaging trust, stifling because my input is only measures in increments of three minutes, I cannot go through examples but I hope that as wee inina a wowoshop, I'llll be le to do that. Thanank U.U. tnknk you cynthia dominique. I'm coming to you not as the task force chair just as a member of the public not a parent. We were never provided with my of these manals and again as jackie stated, our recommendation was to create these manuals in collaboration. It's really hard to create something without the input of

102the people who know the nuances of the work that they do. So, that's really what I would recommend that these items, go back to the people who will be utilizing them or who are going to be held to the standards that are inside of them. Thank you. brooke. brooke, there is direction to see chairs as well as liasons as well as another page that states that chair should only communicate with staff through their liason. I think these two items raise an issue of speech and that it would be problematic to make it difficult for chairs to communicate with staff and to limit their speech generally t would chairs less of a right to speak than members or a parent or a member of the public. I just kind the restrictions really interesting and, they shouldn't

103be there. But generally, I would say that any training or manual should go to the chairs of committees as well as the members. Maybe there is a good starting point but to reassess and edit them. I do think that some of the provisions are problematic and it was the task force that these should be made in collaboration with the chairs which did not happen. I suggest that's how we move forward. Thank you. thank you. Linda ferraro. Speaker: okay, good morning. I think it's still morning. Quickly, as far as the advisory committee leadership with the chair goes. The manual long have been make iting hard for a new chair to extract immediately relevant. Key responsibilities are buried in the expert rather than summarized in plain language. Several repeat information sunshine law, 25 times and the word

104policy 141 times, lists high level topics but does not include. The policies are copied and followed without quick reference charts which forces reading through legal language for their roles. Procedure steps are scattered rather than group by work flow. No checklist no examples of showing how to handle challenges, lax templates, confusing or ambiguous confusion, elsewhere suggest influencing outcomes. This balance is not clearly explained. It should be concise but also detailed in order -- timeline for agenda requests, 14 versus 21 days is mentioned. Language is policy citations which MAY intimidate changes. Little explanation of why each rule exist this contact helps with compliance. No contact list for support department, no section on common mistakes. As far as liason mix. To find guides actionable guides and and I can attest because I've had six liasons in one year.

105There is inconsistent formatting. some buried rather than summarized. The table of context for key subsection. Again the policy 1010, 1070, are copied. Following without summaries, quick reference to checklist to highlight liason responsibilities. Operational steps are scattered. Lack reference tools, 7-day public meeting, biannual requirement. Does not include examples, there is no con -- consolidate DOs and don'ts. Heavy use of policy citations and formal terms MAY be intimidating for staff. No plain introduction to what rule exist. No interactive training component, quiz workshops no section on common pitfalls and lax of content directly. Thank you. thank you so much. Next up is DR. Trudy. Speaker: my name is DR. Trudy dermanvich, this is my teacher voice. I would like to see your eyes, I would like you to put down your phones which you're not suppose to be

106using and I would like you to pay attention. Thank you. I'm here to speak against the training manuals for volunteers who became officers. I think you should scrap what is present asked collaborate with volunteers. How many times have you heard that word? I don't think you know what that means. That means, you put the people for the users in the room. please, that's all you've got to do. This person whoever made it, and I don't know who did it, probably has never been a volunteer. I just assumed that because a volunteer would not have put this together. Because they would have looked at the volunteer manual that was on the website that was done years ago and updated and accurate. For new chairs, that's how you do this. I still see some of you not

107looking at me. Please, put your eyes on me. Please, if you look over the presentation, given to you, after-hours and hours and hours, they told you what to do. You had a presentation, you listened, some of you and I hope you observed. If you don't remember what it said, you can go back to the test and watch it again, because I will test you next time. We have to start the year right with many of the suggestions, that they put into that being implemented. Now this could be done in a week's time, it doesn't take a lot. You put people together in a room and do it. Please. Let's get this done quickly. Thank you. thank you. Next is syra lynches, I hope I said that right. Speaker: thank you, MADAM Right, thank you MADAM

108Chair, you did say my name right and superintendent and board memebers. I usually don't like attending these meetings in-person, I do watch for years and years. And I saw, the item on the agenda, and I thought, [Laughter] I said there is no way. Are you guys really doing this with a real issues that we have going on in broward county? When I first came to this country, my mother was public education advocate and over the years, I'm like fighting public education, we've got to make sure that our kids go to public school. I wouldn't send my granddaughter here now. You know why? Because you don't have any respect for the volunteers that you have in here. You might think you do but you don't. You don't. You don't show them that. You don't care what

109they say. It is an advisory position, we advise, and so on. But to make it more difficult and challenging and put ing rules on how they can help a parent versus not, I come from e sol and it was a little different because we always had parents come in and learn about our system here and hopefully integrate them into pta and that kind of thing. But that is not what this is. Collaboration should not be used in this room. Not yet, maybe one day but not today. Collaboration, means we have a respect for one another and we can work together but it doesn't seem like to me from watching, and from listening, that anybody here wants to collaborate and a lot of times I heard, no this is what we're going to do anyway. For

110MS. Lumskom to stand here almost in tears, for over a year, I heard her talk about focus, I don't work with focus I don't know what it's like for every one, but I do see a lot of comments where ese is having an issue. I used to work with that issue, I know what it's like to not have iep at a glance. We're going the wrong way with this nonsense. Please cut it out. Let the chairs run their meetings the way they run them. Let them tell you what is going on out here. Sometimes a parent will make a motion, dealing with one thing. Meanwhile there is hundreds of issues going on that could be, that are more, the affected district as a whole rather than just one parent. And things happen that way, that's

111how it is. But to impose this type of policy or procedure, what is it? A procedure manual that does not tie into your original policy? thank you so much. Next is erin. Speaker: good afternoon, so I just want to make a couple of more general comments. When you have the 1070 recommendations from the task force and I just want to remind every one, those were the product of hours of deliberation of debate of browder community. So please as you look at those, take that with that in mind. We spent a lot of time being thoughtful about it and so so, so that is what you have before you. In terms of the training and manuals, this was one biggest gaps we heard repeatedly every single meeting we had. I do think there is the most

112opportunity to create more productive channels with this exact move. And I'm grateful that we have start thised ball rolling. But please now, take this draft and bring it, however it works to either bring together a roundtable but allow chairs who have the lived experience to provide their input and feedback, allow the task forced to. So I would just ask for that, I think we do have a real opportunity to do so many good with this, and so let's not MISS That. So thank you. thank you so much. Next board discussion, MS. Leonardi. thank you. And I kind of want to I think, there are a lot of our staff right now, spent a long time had a long day yesterday getting schools ready for the first day. So I just want to commend every one

113in this room who made the first day of school a success. Because I think, you know, every one's nerves are a little bit frayed so I want to give kudos who made yesterday a wonderful day for students and families and teachers and employees. I have two questions. i guess I have two questions. So were these manuals, ere, I think maybe I MISS Heard something. Were the manuals created by the advisories or were they created without the advisories? DR. Hepburn? MR. Sullivan and team. I believe they were made without the advisories but we're happy to share with them and collaborate. so again, I think it's very hard, it's hard for me to watch our staff be routinely disparaged given the amount of work that they put in. Again getting ready for the first day of work

114again, it's not topic that we're on. But if we're asking people to work collaboratively it's hard to come to a place where that can happen when people are being laughed at and disparaged repeatedly. I need to say that, it's really really inappropriate. the people in the audience, need not to not be speaking. so, what would collaboration look like given a routine concern we hear from some advisory chairs in the amount of time that they're being asked to put into advisories what would that collaboration look like? DR. Hepburn. we're happy to do a roundtable as they suggested to take their feedback. thank you. DR. Holness. MADAM Chair, can I go next, MS. Bulman wanted to speak as well. I don't have her on the list. MR. Cervera and then I can add, okay. I just need

115a mib. -- a minute. okay, MR. Cervera. thank you, MADAM Chair. I have some more specific questions in reviewing the policy matrix that was presented to us. And if you would be so kind to indulge me for a couple of moments. I want to start specifically on page 12. And we had spoke about this, website organization in the earlier part of the workshop this morning and it's come up several times. I've had parents, ask me about these committee websites and how to access them and what they contain. And it's my understanding that there is a basically a website for every committee 11 or 12 of them total. Which can be, somewhat confusing to people that are trying to access. So is there a way that we can sort of warehouse these, into one specific website,

116with like a drop down list, or something to that affect that will allow access to the specific committee that the parent is attempting to get information on that's, dare I say, user-friendly. And is centralized as oppose today going to different websites. MR. Hill. thank you, DR. Hepburn. Thank you to the question. Yes, if you go to the school board website underneath the community tab, there is a advisory committee tab, sorry I thought the mic was off. Under that tab it has all the committee listed and if they click on it, it will access their page. So it's probably not set up now but that's how it will be set up going forward. It is set up now, but the new information will be of course updated. There is a centralized page that is all committees

117and they're being able to filter into those committees. when can we expect that to be operational? bit end of the week. -- by the end of the week. fantastic. MADAM Chair, if I MAY move on. On page 16 of 41, there is a section here in dealing with the ethics trainings. And in paragraph 8-c, it would appear that members of the ese and esol participants, do not need the other ethical training or ethics trainings that some of the other committee board, committee members are required to take. I'm wondering if there is a reason for that? MR. Sullivan? I'm not sure if, MR. Hill did you hear the request. For the ethics training how come the ese and esol are not part of why doesn't ese and esol part of the training? that was written in

118there. we're talking about changing, I want to know why that was the case? DR. Hepburn? if this is previous policy written, maybe MS. Batista can shed some light. I've got hands up from some of the committee members. MS. Lucecome, do you want to give some feedback? thank you for the question, yes. It's a little complicated, the 9 plus the 7 that we have required to do the training, that's 100 percent in the policy. Members or anybody who comes along to a meeting and can raise an issue, if they've been to the last six meetings, they can vote with those elected. But that membership that general membership can move in and out. So say if you got one topic of interest of ese advisory meeting and never come a long, you're not making those people trained,

119law training, just to be in the room. They are the general membership. And this is where it's important and I still don't think it's well understood because our bylaw or policy are influx and I've explained to any email to sullivan. It's not well understood and the materials aren't craft today recognize that you have some class roots advisories, the kind of parent bodies that are not only set core of people advising you, we are a floating membership of folks who come to learn to seek information to support to get support, we have a very broad agreement in policy that we fulfill. I hope that answers it. But those of us elected and your appointees, absolutely gu the membership. thank you for that. sorry, and it's also gifted, ese, esol, gifted and (Inaudible). if I MAY, chair.

120I just have a question for the speaker. Do those rolling members vote? Are they voting on specific? Speaker: so we're going to get into the weeds if we start going into this but I'm happy to but and this is why I sent it to MR. Sullivan last week, I provided althe e cumentababt at the e de was. We had d a pocycyin 2016 paeded a policy that was not even advised to the advisory. It passed and they found out weeks later. As a result, then the bylaws went past to match it. So we have mismatch policy and bylaw. There is a long history to try to get it evolved and I've provided all the materials and information on that to MR. Sullivan, it takes some reading through. But, yeah, they can vote but we have

121to have a quorum. We have made proposals in our policy matrix of how we MAY resolve and refine and improve the ease with which you could, attain quorum in an ese advisory meeting, that's the flux that we're in. Than teaching us again to kind of restricting us and creating materials without us. It's, we need, we're all in different stages of policy and bylaw situations and as flick -- complicated so he can pass that on. there is a question for MR. Hill, do we have other rolling membership? yes, there are other committees and one of the recommendations from staff is for the board to at just the ability to floating memberships not only to retain the integrity of the votes but also to make sure that every one is receiving the proper trainings? okay. I'm sorry,

122there is a little bit of a mismatch in the information, I'm not sure the question was entirely. Policy 1070 makes the acception as seen as the grass roots. It's not that we don't have quorum, but we don't have trained membership. We were told to keep maintaining that requirement. Le if you've been to the two of the last six members, I'm talking about ese. This, nuances and history and back story to all of this, which is actually very complicated. And I don't feel it's helpful to then be basing a decision or topic on a very base level of understanding of things. I provide the materials in order for this to be, I thought sent out to, the board memebers, I don't think we were here to discuss that policy and bylaw, but I'm happy to buy

123pass. I'm not sure what is happening today. The manuals that we just parachuted, we have not feeling inside. I'm anxious about conversation going off the rails without fact. thank you. Thank you, MR. Cervera, did she answer the question. yes, and obviously provided a lot more information so thank you for that, ma'am. do you have any other questions. not in that line item, I do have something else I would like to move into if I MAY. Looking at section 7 on page 23 of the 41 of the matrix pdf, there is an idea na is being presented in which those of us who are having those board memebers that are having difficulty in filling their committee seats, a suggestion is proposed that a pool of specialized volunteers where board memebers MAY select a member from that

124pool to filet specific vacancy. I've got a couple of questions and comments as to how that process would work. Number one who is compiling this pool and where is it coming from and number two, what are we doing about getting the word out about committee vacancies to the parents thao are in our schools? I think that there is probably a I think there is a big market of parents that don't know these committees exist. If we, we would find ourselves having a large contingent of parents want to go rise to the call here and serve on some of these committees instead of just putting together random volunteer pools of people, I don't know how they're going to be comprised of. To recap, this volunteer pool idea, putting this together, where is it coming from? Number

125two, what are we doing as a district to advertise these openings to our parents who actually have kids in the school to see if they have any interest, for those who have vacancies. MR. Hepburn. this is the path we're trying to take. I know some board memebers have difficulty filling all advisory seats. A pool idea came along to, cause some of the committees advisories do require some special skills and knowledge such as audit committee places like that. Where which would put it out there at large and submit their interest, whatever it could be, resumes information they want to provide so we can create a repository of interested candidates and then the board memebers will have that information available. and that's fine. My concern is maybe a pecking order. I would like to see a collection

126of our parents and our kids to see if they have any interest in serving on any of these committees. I'm sure we have parents who are cp As, parents who are professionals in all of our schools. Going around and talk to go parents, when I went through the task of filling this out, and I am proud to say, I think all of my committee appointments are completed, so I want to give myself a pat in the back. But that being said when I was going through the process of assigning my folks, I would speak to parents who had no idea this thing existed. Majority of parents I spoke to had zero knowledge. We get 17,000 pieces of paper in the kid's backpack vision of hundreds of things, why aren't we being informed of this. it's

127welcome feedback. I would really like to see the implementation of maybe a parent's first type of targeting bh we're look to go fill these seats. yep. Feedback noted. MR. Cervera, anything else? I do. MR. Hill, you're collecting all the feedback, correct? yes. thank you. actually if I MAY, I think the rest of my comments are targeted at 1020. DR. Holness. thank you, MADAM Chair. first I would like to highlight before I speak, that I'm wearing will yard elementary today and I have to tell you dill ard elementary with one of the 7 schools that I visited yesterday and I was impress with MS. Robinson. And I would say way to dillard elementary. And thank you for your doing and they went from auto a d, and a c and then to a b and extremely

128close to a a, awesome achievement. If we can go to page 8. Of the policy 1070 matrix. On page 8, I believe there is a, let me just go there. There is a recommendation to change to 5 years, because 2 years is said to be too frequent, too often. I also believe that 5 years would be too infrequent. My suggestion is to meet somewhere in the middle and maybe every three years. That would be on page 8 of the 41, under by laws. Item f. Also on page 12 I do agree and I heard board member cervera inquiry on the website. I do hope that at some point we'll have websites that would be details enough and user-friendly to be able to capture all of what is being asked to be on a website. Also,

129on page 23, let me go to page 23. On page 23, speaking of regards of having, pool of volunteers, I believe there is also concern, with attendance. Now as far as attendance to the committee meetings. I agree with the committee members. I think, I agree with the committee members and the chairs that I hear that attendance can be a problem and as a board memebers we have a responsibility as well to ensure that the individuals that we're appointing, attend these meetings. In fact, if they're not, it's really on us to find appointees that can attend that are willing to attend. You know I've had situationed myself where I've had to discontinue a member because of not, because of infrequent attendance. So as board memebers we have a responsibility because they do need a quorum, they

130do need the appointees there in order to make decisions. And as far as, I believe there is a mention of having an application for a pool of volunteers. And I believe as well that the application should clearly state what the commitment requires especially in terms of attendance. Because it makes no sense that we're appointing people and they're not going to the meetings, I think that's really really important. Page 24, to the person, let me go to page 24 of 41. It is recommended by the task force that a person MAY not be appointed to more than one advisory committee established by policy. Let me just make sure I have the right thing here. Established by policy by the same school board member, however this does not exclude of serving advisory committee if that person is

131already serving on multi advisory committees. I'm recommending that a person MAY not serve on more than two committees. And I believe that, us having this in place will provide opportunities for wider range of input and opportunities for as many residents as possible to serve. So, therefore my recommendation here would be chair, on only one committee and a member of no more than two committees. On page 28, on page 28, let me go through this. On page 28, it appears that, regarding non school board appointees that, the one day, task force is recommending that the board remove members of non school board member appointees while I believe the recommendation from the district is that the committee remove such individual. So DR. Hepburn, I would like clarity from MS. Batista regarding page 28 that, can be the

132board be is the board legally able to remove members of committees that are non school board appointees? so yes. Let me talk page 28 for a second because I think there MAY be some confusion. okay. so there are a couple of florida, well there is a florida statute related to volunteers and florida law related to volunteers. Neither two provide a property right to volunteers to be volunteers, in other words, it's not a paid position, it doesn't have, they're appointed and serve at the pleasure of the either the board or superintendent. And that haver, there are no constitutional rights that attached to being a volunteer as such because there are no constitutional rights that attached. There is no property right and to entitlement to do process when a volunteer is removed. So I just want to

133make that clear. You know, if the general council's office was ever asked to put a policy together, or write something in to a policy that included a provision for due process, we can certainly do that, we can write a policy that says there is due process. But that would not mean that that, writing that into a policy would make it so that the volunteer is entitled to due process. By law, so just because somebody MAY have wanted there or wanted write it in, does not afford that volunteer or any volunteer that property right that would only be given to them by law if they had, if they were paid for the position, there have to be other issues involved for somebody to have an entitlement to do process. okay, so DR. Hepburn, based on page

13428, would you be recommending the task force suggestion as far as the eventality of the board removing or responsibility of removing non school board appointee so should this go back to the committee and remove those appointees once you recommend the removal of such person. for non school board? correct. I'm recommending that it does not go back for a recommend if I recommend removal. I guess when I read the process, you're going to recommend the removal and from there it goes to the committee to get two-thirds or come back to the board. I'm looking at the middle and right column. The middle column suggests that it goes to the committee and the committee vote to remove that person? Am I misunderstanding it? Or that the board. if I MAY. let me let MR. Hill or MR.

135Sullivan clarify. that was the task force recommendation to keep it as is which is allows the superintendent to remove if they're found in violation, if they're not appointed by board member. without it going to the committee or coming back to the board. correct, unless it's a board member appointee. If you, for example, appoint somebody to a committee. right, so we're speaking about non board member appointees. So the super recommends and can take an action of removing a school board without coming back to the board. correct, that's the current policy 1070. okay, all right, because if the policy, would the current policy, john, be what is in the middle column? so current is on the left and middle is discussion and and far right is task force recommendations. They're recommending, a change. and the change they're

136recommending is that, it comes back to them? For a two third vote? MR. Hill, is it that or is it to go to the actual committee? can I jump in, I think that last one was in addition to the superintendent removing somebody. The committee would have the ability if they saw a reason to do it, so I think number five, is not, not part of the superintendent, this whole section is about removal of committee members other than school board appointees. So I think number 5 is not tied to the superintendent, it's if the committee has an issue by somebody by two-thirds vote, the committee could also in addition to the superintendent removing somebody, the committee could vote to remove somebody. I think it's separate. I don't think all those numbers are tied. correct, because what

137you're describing is for school board appointee. but we're making reference to non school board appointees. on page 29 at the botttt, e 28, remova coittee mbererothehethananscscolboboard appopointees d d it has l these numbers and then number 5 which is on page 29 which affirmative vote of two-thirds of all committee members, the committee MAY remove or suspend a committee member. That is separate of, that's another way that a committee member would be removed from a committee. okay, so the list from 1 through 5 or different ways from which say member can be removed one is contingent on another? no they're separate. they're xrait, okay. -- separate. okay. okay, I'll move on to page 40 on page 40, I do agree I'll go down to 40. Actually page 38 and 39, sorry. On page 38 and 39,

138I do agree with the superintendent recommendation, that's in red. I believe it's important that we have in place, succession of leadership and that we incentivize our current leaders or current chairs and committee members to groom others for leadership. So I will support and I do agree with what is read in 38 and 39. As far as, chairs and vice chairs being able to serve for more than a combined two consecutive years and so on and so forth. DR. Hepburn in addition to what you have in red, in the event that there is no one volunteering to be chair, then I believe there should be something there that would indicate that the vice chair would assume a interim chair role until the chair is identified or voted on. yeah, we can put feedback in there. great.

139And those are all my comments, thank you so much. okay. Thank you. Next is MS. Bulman. thank you, chair. I would like to echo my colleague MS. Leonardi's original comments. I think, you know, I'm also guilty of this sometimes, but we have a lot of people that are working hard to put things together. I don't think that this was done with malicious intent at all. So I do appreciate the staff putting this together. When I'm reading it, I agree that it might be a little too long and complicated but I also looking at it as somebody who MAY be coming to a committee for the first time and does not understand what the process is and it really sets out and defines what is going on, like if you've never been to a meeting before.

140I also, am reading it as attempt to limit liability and protect people, because there are a lot of over arching laws and policies that dictate these committees that we're bound to like the sunshine law and other things. I think it's good that we're, trying in some way to put na in force so people appreciate it. I'm sure we can shorten this, but I think that the intent is there to educate people. I also, appreciate that they've done, a similar manual for the lightly -- liasons which has been a major point of feedback over these meetings that we've had, where there is, a discrepancy in liason training and participation, so I think that by having that manual there, our staff is acknowledging that that is something that they're hearing and that they're trying to implement that

141as well. I really appreciate that. I definitely don't see, malicious intent in these manuals, even if they're a little long, but hey, it's easier to shorten it. So I do appreciate that. And I would like to get back to the original intent of this entire exercise. MR., or chair, what is the purpose of the advisory committees? DR. Hepburn? to advise the board on specific circumstances or issues or accolades or concerns that are specific to the advisory. thank you. So I know, when this, you know, the original impotu came forward, our understanding is more of a cleaning house, and perhaps, you know, eliminating some advisories committees, con solidating them. So when we had the last workshop, I believe that my colleagues and I were very receptive to the feedback that came back. And if you look

142back at the vao, the majority indicated that they would like to keep the advisory committees, the way that they were set up originally based on the feedback and the work that was done by the superintendent task force. So the idea that we're not being responsive or listening, is a little bit misplaced, because we are moving forward with the assumption that we're going to be maintaining these committees. But what I would like to see is from our side, is the collaboration that we're looking for which is we're looking to you to give us advise and advise that we can actually use. Nobody is perfect, and I don't think that I'm alone as somebody who has volunteered quite a bit. I'm positive that every person in this room has volunteered a lot. So I think that you

143have empathy for that and everybody is able to relate to that and what it takes to participate in the community. That are supporting our kids and our schools. I think we have to remember that that is the reason why we're all here is to make sure that our kids are getting the best possible education that they can and that we have, as much community involvement as we can. Because that's what makes our schools great. So I want to thank the staff I think we can make some adjustments but I think we have a good starting point. And I hope we have collaboration, we're all going to be better if we can all work together. Thank you. thank you, next is DR. Zeman. thank you, chair. The purpose for advisory committees is very important to keep

144in mind. We have put in tens of thousands of hours trying to figure out how to organize this. I remain committed to the principle, that if if they have a specific mission, we ought to put the mission first and organize a structure around that, organize policy around it, organize practices and procedures around it. There is a role for school board, there is a role for advisory chairs. There is role for advisory committee members, there is a role for liason, which I think is very important. I share a little bit of concern about the training package that has been put together. It's not a standard format. Does not have learning objectives like we do education for a living. This goes on the heat. If we cannot figure out how to teacher:ers how to be better teachers,

145shame on us. If we cannot teach advisory committee and put together a actual isd learning package, we're open to criticism. So I hope we do that and I hope that's what we bring back. It's an important thing, because it's been discussed by the superintendent task force, it's been discussed at great length by the superintendent and staff. And I think we deserve to have a package that follows kind of traditional isd standards in developing education. We're not going to win in the marketplace if we cannot show people we know how to do our core capability. Having read all the work of the superintendent's task force, having interviewed the people that work with the superintendent to put the the original brief, having been the former and current, thank you for the shout out for the current volunteer

146on the whole more things than I think I should be and a chair to advise recouncil to, the city, that I've lived in, for a long time, I bring my own kind of, needs for this. One is a need for efficiency. You know, we need to take the effort that the hundreds of people have put in and actually drive toward, getting something done. The getting something done it turns out is giving advise. It isn't getting a response to an email. It's not getting a policy of support. It's not getting a budget allocation that you think is better. It's often to inform the board that we're either not paying attention or sometimes don't even know. So advisory role is really important and I hope MR. Superintendent, that the package that comes back to the school board

147for consideration, is a package that is kind of a nested set of decisions we need to make. How many advisory committees we're going to have? What is the voting structure of those committees? Are we going to have training for liasons and chairs? Are we going to have standard bylaw? There ought to be this nested group of decisions that the board should make and that should drive to the results that we both in the policy and this. What I'm worried about, is DR. Holness just went through a dozen or so changes to the very long document, we could spend five hours on this when it comes back to the school board and go knit pick by knit pick or decide at the beginning of the meeting, let's decide the principles and come back an hour later

148after staff tells us what those means and we can actually put this board to good use rather than use spending what could be five hours reviewing this very emotional issue. What I'm looking for a affective laoes. I want a system that gives us advise, that creates a better relationship with the chairs and liason and the board and chairs, between the board and advisory committees. I have seen this system work extraordinary well and we're not there right now. This is not a system that works well. So it needs to be tuned up, it doesn't need to be thrown away but how we decide how to tune it up is very important. I appreciate the suggestion that parents could be communicated about open roles and at the same time, I'm not going to be told who to

149put on advisories. Paneser are great options, business people are great options, former schools board memebers are great options. Former superintendent from raw chest thaer moved here, good suggestions. And I continue to look for people that will contribute. Among the people that I've talked to t I've had many people turn me down. So I've gone to national experts and say, look sally you were at the urban institute and you rant system for years and years, I would like you to be on this committee to do and watches a committee meeting and says, alan, no thank you. That's the tune up we need. The advise that is given is done respectfully and professionally and we listen and take action that makes sense when we decide it's important and urgent to do so. How many times do I

150get a phone call from a parent that says, you to -- and wait a minute I'm a on the board, I'm not the superintendent let me give you email. I know you see the emails because that's not my job. But I do need to be aware of triggers. When somebody says ese is getting what they need out of focus, I pay more attention to that. That's wonderful our role is policy and budgets and major decisions and supporting the staff in the decisions that the superintendent made. So I'm good with parents first in terms of communication, I'm not, I hope I'm not hearing that parents are the only qualified people. And I will point out that we have 380,000 parents in broward county and we have a dozen or so open seats so that is going

151to a lot of people that they hay be considered. Nobody that school board members have their own friends and colleagues and people that they've known in their community that they want to appoint, I think that MAY have some utility but that's all. My strongest suggestion is that we think hard of the design of the system and we back to first principals and say if what we want advisory commit see to give us good advise. How do we improve the capability of anybody who just joins and has been in the advisory committee for decades to come here and make a difference about our strategic goals. That's why we're here. we're not here to achieve anything else. And to me, that's important. If we could chair, I would love to think a little bit about the direction,

152that we give the superintendent about bringing this back. So that we can actually make good structure decisions maybe early in the school board meeting, let them work on it and bring it back. Not so they can change but highlight and say, okay, the board voted on these structural things in the morning, we've now made the changes that need to be made based on the decisions. There is 7 decisions left, let us roll you through those 7 decisions and get this done. What I don't want to do is spend another five more hours, with hundreds of people watching or attending and people make decisions based on exhaust ion, rather than being fresh. There are questions about voting rights and it's just a way to get us past this, this extraordinary long time that we would spend

153on this and making some what I view is potentially decisions. Can we talk about that for a minute and see if there is any direction that we would like to give the superintendent. we can. I just, I guess I'm not grasping what it is you're exactly asking. so, I'd like to discuss this item efficiently. And there are big decisions that we need to make about are we going to continue with the number of advisory committees that we, are we going to set limits. we did that already. We voted on the committees, the last time that came before us. This is just about policy 1070. okay. if I MAY. please. we'll bring it back for final adoption. are there any other decisions we made as a board? the only other pending decisions is any changes to

1541070. so if we follow our past performance, we're going to go line by line at the next school meeting. there will be a red line and clean draft. Yes. I don't think we need to do what we're suggesting. This is going to take a long time to go line by line. I hope we can come prepared to have these discussions and make some decision buzz it moving forward. I just feel like we're going to spend a lot of time on the policy, revisions and the red line to get it together. Thank you, so I don't have a better idea. But chair I do have some comments about learning objectives. You're probably not going to get there. And second, there is a whole bunch of issues about roles in the training material. But I think we

155need to talk about the role of the chair and the role of the liason in the ecosystem of people's roles and responsibility. You don't understand your own role if you don't know what the board does, if you don't know what other people related to this might be. So I would suggest that we kind of expand that and bring back as I said earlier, an actual training package that MR. Sullivan and his select group of people. Chair, are we going to direct looping on this? [Captioner switch] from nose -- from those people that might give them constructive feedback to bring that to the training meeting with john. okay, so, does your suggestion that we loop -- where they do collaborative work with the training manuals? I would suggest for the training manual, the loop would be

156with chair ins the advise ri -- advisory committee. can as you repeat that? the superintendent staff loop the training manual once it's put into a training manual format, traditional format with the chairs of the advisory committees. MRS. Alhadeff? yes, I would like clarification on the level of looping because from my understanding, there's different looping levels. the suggestion was to the chairs of the -- the current advisory committees for the training manuals. how much time will that take? if we do it as DR. Zeman prescribed, we would probably want to give them a few weeks so they can meet with their respective committee tos get their feedback and they can represent their committees as chair at the roundtable. so, it would be one committee meeting with all the committee chairs and with the staff to have

157a discussion and hash it out. so, I'm guessing two months give or take because I think that the chairs have enough time to meet with their respective committees. Er anybody the disagree with that? Ay. I' talalk tete okay. Soso, I think that's the direction for that. Okay. Anything else, DR. Zeman? do you need looping for the policy itself or we're done with that? sorry, if I MAY. go ahead. Er what I would say for 1070, I don't think you need to loop it because we already included all the feedback that the task force members had on that policy, so that would be your looping. the loop deloop deloop. other feedback is in the documents so I'm not sure why they're screaming, it's a distraction. Er in the interest of getting it incompetent, mcomplement -- implemented,

158it would be great, I don't have any recommendations of looping on that other than not do it. MRS. Rupert? thank you, and thank you, DR. Zeman, for that suggestion. I would definitely want to loop this and most importantly talk to the training manual, make sure it's backed by all those chair committees. And I appreciate the superintendent and chair with the suggestion about our pta's and student parent groups to make sure that there's really no way to overburden them since most of our pta's really are just barely making it after expenses are covered, so I do appreciate those two suggestions and look forward to the roundtable and finding a really good place to move forward to where every volunteer, parent, community person is welcomed into one broward, so thank you. thank you, MS. Thompson? thank you,

159chair. I had a couple of clarifying questions. is this -- was this noticed as rule making? DR. Hepburn? MR. Hill or MR. Sullivan? yes. because even on the agenda, like usually we have rule making, it's very spelled out, and so -- I mean, maybe this was just one board member, but when I was looking at the item, I thought we were talking about the training manual and not necessarily the policies involved in it. it was all of the above, but the civic plus notice is rule making. it doesn't say rule making. [Inaudible]. I think -- MR. Sullivan, was it advertised? MR. Hill? He's pulling up the -- to clarify, on JULY 29, it was advertised sdsh I'm sorry, before then, it was advertised for notice of development of rule making for this policy, yes, 1070.

160[Inaudible]. it's supposed to be on the agenda. the agenda has a typo, we're okay. well, it seems like we're not okay respectfully, so we went through -- and again, I was not on board with the task force from the beginning so I'm not trying to prolong more work, but you spent so much time and then -- all I can say it was legally noticed for rule making. JULY 29th is that date. alright. So, I do feel like it was -- could have been clearer or followed our standard of writing when it was rule making but people make mistakes. Is the task force force still meeting? Because my understanding is they were going until OCTOBER specifically for this 1070. DR. Hepburn? I'll defer that to the task force chair. I believe it doesn't sunset until OCTOBER.

161yeah, because one of the concerns was the summer and the availability of chairs during the summer or task force members during the summer. MS. Dominique, the question was, is the task force still meeting? we requested for a meeting to be noticed. sit on? abilities is it on? we requested a meeting for this thursday so we can touch base and figure out our next cadence of meetings. It would have been nice for this information to be provided to the task force, we could have reviewed it and provided feedback, yes, the task force is still available to meet. Of course we can't have conversations out of sunshine, so I don't know if that molting was able to be noticed for thursday. we got the request yesterday I believe. yeah, because -- so we'll process it, yesterday was

162the first day of school, so I was a little distracted. I'm sorry for any distractions but I just came back from two weeks of [Inaudible] Duty and it's getting back into the cadence and getting back with our own kids as well, so we felt that after the discussions had here, we would meet on thursday to see what the task force -- any input that they had and talk about next steps. thank you. I think that's -- and I understand it was noticed, I'm not trying to be mean to staff at all. But there does seem to be a lot of feedback, specifically on the policy. However, I do think the the training manual, one, beautiful, and two, like did incorporate a lot of the feedback we heard from the task force, like I'm looking at

163the -- I was looking at something, the global report requirements, I remember we had like an hour discussion on whether the word should be you MAY or you should or you could request to -- or submit public comment if you're unable to go to the meeting, that seems incorporated. So, I think the training manuals with feedback from the chairs seems to fit the feedback we got during those other discussions. I just do think there's a discrepancy or a misunderstanding with the community as well as myself about the policy and I know we're now running behind time so I don't know if there's a recommendation on what to do with that but I also -- I know that 1020 is coming back to the board soon. It was on our agenda last meeting, that was like

16412 hours long. Some of these policies are coming back and they're in the training manual so if we could all agree to not talk about those policies since they're about to come back to us. yeah, I don't think the intent today was to talk about any other policies really. I know they're mentioned in the training manual but I think now that we've asked for the training manual to go to the chairs, if there's an over high level, that's the term everyone likes to use, suggestions, that we pass that along today and we come back once the manual comes back and the policies come on their own time, that makes the most sense. so, when it comes back, are we voting on the training manuals which includes all these policies, or is is it like training

165manual, then 1070, they're all going to be separate items? the training manual, it's not a board action, 1070 would be. We presented the manuals for board discussion to get feedback but I don't believe that's something you would vote on, but if MS. Batista thinks differently. I believe that's operational. MS. Batista? yes, that's correct. alright. That's -- I I don't know where to go from there, I wanted to get clarification on what is happening in this meeting because there seems to be a lot of different thoughts, so thank you, chair. thank you, MRS. Alhadeff? yes, thanks. So, I'm seeing here I'm very frustrated and especially after hearing what I just heard, if the training manuals is not something this board is voting on, then why are we even having this conversation today? DR. Hepburn? we know

166the initial conversation is about policy 1070, the board and the task force made recommendations about a training manual, the board did access to start working on a training manual, so we packaged that all in for discussion also, so we can get some feedback on what direction to go. okay. I guess my higher level comment will just be that we know the board always says like did we loop it or did we get feedback from our committees, and so it's a little bit frustrating that DR. Zeman had to make an ask to loop it when we know we should have looped it or did a roundtable or have the conversation and the collaboration before coming here today. DR. Hepburn? yes, point taken. One of the things we wanted to do this summer, we know committees are

167not function ining the summer for the post part, we heard from them about the summers so we wanted to bring something to bring it here to get feedback, whether it's whether you need to loop it, vining feedback from the board members about specific content, so the purpose is to bring it here for feedback which would include sofm the suggestions made such as looping it with specific committee advisory members, particularly the chairs. okay. I guess I'm just saying maybe in the future if it could already occur before even coming to us. I know timing is an issue on everything but we're always going to say, did you have the conversation, did you talk to the key stakeholders, to the committees, and whether that was done in a one day roundtablefinger if that was more efficient or

168if it was looped, I think it's important before it's coming back to us and then the board can make a decision and then we feel more comfortable, like, okay, great, everybody's on board and we all know -- we're all rowing in the sail -- same direction, that's my point. historically speaking, the looping is initiated at the beginning of the first rule making because based on that direction of the board, that would impact the timing of the final discussion, so looping usually is initiated at this stage of whatever the policy is. right, we're talking about the training manuals. I know, but historically speaking as it relates to looping, we don't loop until we're directed at the initial rule making. okay. i have another comment on page 6 of 8, the advisory committee's training series and it

169speaks to the 25-26 school board appointments to advisory committees. My line is completely blank and that is completely wrong. I don't know where that information came from, but I only have four committees left to fill for the record. we'll update it. thank you. so, just to put on record, we did create this document bafr we went in there and it was shared, so yes, we do have the information. thank you. And to MRS. Alhadeff's point, it's -- we've gone back and forth about what things look like. Sometimes there's a committee meeting and that's rule making. Sometimes it's here at the workshop, I know we're going o have a better discussion of that, but we'll just say 1070, so in order to get community feedback before it comes to us, and I'm just trying to clarify,

170so correct me if I'm wrong, someone from -- they could see that 1070's own an agenda and someone from the community could see I would like dwrou have a rule making meeting and then it would go to the community in a meeting because I'm stringing to follow what MS. Batista has explained to me, that we could have that committee meeting first which we did for I think 1070 if I'm not mistaken before where because someone requested it, the community gives input and then the staff takes that input and brings it back to us at a next meeting that would then allow us to know what the community had asked for in the red line before it goes to the final adoption at the next meeting. So, that's sort of my understanding and -- because it's

171very confusing. Sometimes we do it, sometimes we don't. So, either MR. Sullivan or MS. Batista? my understanding is if someone makes that request from the community, they're impacted by the policy, the board would vote on that as an item, whether to do that or not. I don't think it's automatic, but MS. Batista could help me. so, we are I think conflating two items here. There is the looping process according to policy, the school board policy which has nothing really to do -- I'm not talking about looping. which really is not related to rule making, and then in the rule making process, which is similar to looping, if -- pursuant the our policy 1000, the way that any and all of the policies come forth to the board is that there is a rule making automatically

172done at the workshop with the board. That is not something that is prescribed by statute, in statute, it only says that you do rule making if requested by the community or by someone and we don't do it that way. By policy, we do more than is required by florida statute, so we bring it every single time to a workshop and then from there, if someone were to ask for an additional workshop on rule making, that is the reason why it goes to the board for a vote because it potentially could be unnecessary, right, if the board believes that it's not necessary to the have another rule making in addition to the one that already occurred. so, not to continue the same question, but in JANUARY when 1070 came to us in the middle of us

173having a discussion because in a rule making meeting the community asked for, they're allowed to have back and forth conversation. So, when we had that discussion, you had brought up they could request a community meeting which MR. Sullivan and yourself held here where community could talk to staff to have that conversation with no school board members here so that staff could bring to the school board as MRS. Alhadeff has just suggested something that already had community input to us instead of us going through all this tap dancing of back and forth and everything. So, what you just described isn't really what I was asking the question about. So, -- and I know that we're bringing the policy back so that we don't necessarily have to bring every policy to us, but that was a separate

174question. This is specific to if someone sees 1070 or any policies on the agenda, they request as has happened to us a community -- a rule making meeting. Let's call it a rule making meeting, and it's a rule maiming workshop, but that's not a request of a workshop here at the school board, it's a separate meeting with the community and staff only. Because what you said in JANUARY is that's the way the statute reads and that's the way we should do it but that's not what our policy says so we don't do it that way and we're trying to have a discussion, why are we not just following the way the statute does, so is this better a conversation for when the policy comes back? Because I don't want to waste everyone's time but we've

175been in circles on this particular item since JANUARY. so, the short answer is this would be a discussion when policy 1070 comes and you can discuss whether you want to continue to have the process as you have it now which is a rule making workshop where the board attends or have a rule making workshop, you know, as prescribed by statute either only when somebody requests that particular rule making to occur or without the board. okay. Then I'll not ask those questions anymore. So, I just have a couple of questions on 1070 in the recommendation page here. So, the first one is page 24 of 41, I just -- because I'm just giving my own feedback on what this normally comes to us as a clean line and a red line, but this came weird so

176I think that's why it's a little confusing, but on page 24, the task force recommendation was that a person MAY not be appointed o more than one advisory committee established by policy, however, this does not preclude a school board member from vag person serve on an advisory committee, that person is already serve on multiple. My suggestion to follow the recommendation of the task force on that page. They also made a recommendation of the task force to replace where it says committee motions to committee recommendations, so I think we should also clean it up with that because we've been very clear that the recommendations are not motions. On page 25 where it says each school member established advisory member committee must xlaoun kate at least monthly with his or her appointed school board member. I think

177that that is a good suggestion because honestly when we don't get attendance from the committee chairs, whether our appointees are showing up or not, we don't know if they are or not, so to have them know that your job as an appointee is to e-mail, you could e-mail the school board member and say there was no meeting this mother, that's fine, but I think that's important because we appoint people because we can't make it to the meetings. I know tla we often get suggestions and kind of dinged because we're not going to the committee meetings but that's really the point of having an appointee is because we can't go to them so we have our appointees so I would suggest following what the superintendent's reck ld dashing, so -- recommendation so that was the middle

178column. On page 28 and 29, I don't think that the school board should be voting on whether a committee member gets removed or not. If it was a recommendation by the superintendent, I don't think that's our place, that's the job of the superintendent. On page 38, the original -- my recommendation is just to keep what's originally in the policy which is officers of each school board shall be elected by the membership. As you keep changes it over, it's very confusing. Each advisory committee shall have the authority to elect their officers to serve up to four one-year terms and advisory committee appointee or member MAY not serve as chair of that advisory for a period of two years following the conclusion of their term as chair. When you start to add in vice chair and recording

179secretary, that whole idea of building a bench kind of crashes down if you don't allow them to serve in those capacities. And my last suggestion on page 39 -- MADAM Chair, if you don't mind before you go to the next recommendation, if I MAY, sir. yes. we just need clarity on that, now question have two confnfliing feedbackck from board membmberfrom yoyou and drhoholness, on the election of officers. and wez can go around and ask everybody what their -- well, okay. So, that's the whole reason the policy came back for the most part was this particular one, so I think staff needs a clearer direction on what we as a board believe collectively op this, so if everything could weigh in. There's an original one that allows four year terms which is after many months of

180doing this, that's what was brought, then a board member brought back to have two one-year terms and that you couldn't serve as the capacity of chair, vice chair or broader secretary for more than two consecutive years and there was a suggestion by the committee, so if everybody could weigh in on that. MS. Bulman? that's page 38. page 38 at bottom. maybe you can give your last recommendation while you look at that, MADAM Chair. and the last one, page 39, my recommendation is the middle column, for number 4, in the subsequent committee election cycle, individuals who have served two consecutive years as chair, vice chair or recording secretary will not be eligible for a recommendation for the next academic year. Committee elected officers MAY not serve as chair, vice chair more than one committee at a

181time. So, you can't be a committee officer on more than one committee. Those are my recommendations. Okay. MS. Bulman? my recommendation, when I'm looking at this now, is not to go with one or the other, but I think we'd go with maybe just the chair and not include the other positions. MRS. Alhadeff? and I'm sorry, would that be for two or four years? I would say for two. I would say to each advisory committee shall have to annually elect their officers to serve up to [Inaudible] For one election cycle. Er I'm in the bulman camp today on this one item. so, okay, MRS. Leonardi said the same as MRS. Bulman? MS. Thompson? the task force recommendation. do I need to read it? no. MR. Cervera? two years. for all or just the chair? for all.

182DR. Holness? thank you, MADAM Chair, just to clarify, board member bulman, she's going with pretty much everything that's recommended in red by the superintendent except being applicable to the chair, is that correct? only applicable to the chair. but everything else in red -- there wouldn't be a two year term limit. I will soften my position a little and go with bulman. okay, and MRS. Rupert? the original one. okay. that the task force recommended. that's not the original one. sorry, you're talking about 29, right? page 38. 38 for term limits. okay, sorry, hold on. MS. Bulman's recommendation is only a two year term limit that would only apply to the chair. I wanted to do the one for the task force, four one-year terms. okay. We have a consensus. thank you. MADAM Chair, I just wanted

183to reiterate that I also recommend that if for whatever reason a committee is not able to find a volunteer to be chair, that the vice chair assume an interim chair role until a chair is identified and voted in. we captured that feedback. you did, okay, thank you. chair, what was the agreement? so, unless anyone's adamantly opposed, MRS. Bulman had the consensus. is this rule making? Do we get to make comments when things like this are discussed? If it's rule making, I thought that's what -- I believe it's on page 2 of 6 in the policy and it says that -- we are in rule making but can you just -- we were in the middle of a discussion. no, I couldn't because people have to leave. MRS. Alhadeff asked me a question, I was answering

184it and you just jumped in, so one second, please. Er I didn't hear MRS. Alhadeff. so both you and I agree, it's the same as MRS. Bulman's except we said four years, not two years. MR. Sullivan, can you -- I had the most consensus was around MRS. Bulman's. okay. Now DR. Jermanovich, you can speak. thank you. i'm DR. Jermanovich -- just so staff knows, are public comments done, are we putting more public comment on the board for the speakers? this is again why I've asked this question again, in rule making in state statute, it states we can have a back and forth. Er I'm not disagreeing, I want to know how mucher time to put. I don't know if it prescribes that. again, that's something that needs to be addressed when the policy comes back.

185You can have a time limit as to how much time even during rule making speakers can speak, you can have 3-5 minutes, and I would say it's up to the chair. three minutes. my name is DR. Trudy jermanovich, I'm reading from page 2 of 6. The notice of -- this is in policy 1000, the notice of rule development -- we're on 1070. the reason I'm reading it is because we did not get notice of this meeting. No one got notice of this meeting. it was legally noticed. where was it legally noticed since nobody saw it? it's legally noticed where every single policy has been noticed, every single meeting has been noticed, on civicplus. this says the notice of rule development will state that if each person decides to appeal any decision made by the school

186board with respect to it, that person will get the proceedings and we can appeal it. Do you want to go through all of this? It also says that -- I mean, it goes through and it says that you're supposed to properly notice this. You did not -- your own policy says that. On page 2 of 6 of policy -- the speakers can only talk on 1070, I want to be very clear on that. DR. Natalie lynch-walsh, plantation, florida. This is what happens when you have -- and this is why I asked you this morning, actually, what this looked like from an agenda standpoint is it looked like you were having the 1070 recommendations from the doj committee and two items from staff which would have suggested two different topics. Since they advertised it as rule

187making, to avoid all of this drama, it should have said rule making and been separated and then we would know that we were in a rule making workshop for your purposes but not a rule development workshop as we often do which I think you're going to get some requests and certainly one from me. And I just from my purposes wan to be clear based on what i'm hearing. Page 28, understand that in 2021, that then general counsel's office meaning MR. Robert fignola, approved language for a process, don't let lady batista get you hung up on due process as a legal term. It is about having a process -- be respectful of the staff to not call her names. I did not think calling her lady batista was disrespectful. When cartwright was here, a staff person

188came in and talked the policy 1070 committee out of that language, and as a result, you have this long sentence that says the superintendent MAY remove someone. If it is a board appointee, none of that can happen. The board member has to go along with it. This policy has two classes of volunteers in a state that values protecting volunteers supposedly and parental rights and if you don't put the doj's committee recommendation for putting a policy in place, whether the it is giving it to the committee to review and vote on, which is what was in the original language, it got a mitotically kate because the doj committee said bring it to the board as opposed to the committee that the person serves on. Pick one, but if you have no language, you give me no

189other choice but to say that this entire school board is okay with having two classes of volunteers and no recourse if you are wrongly removed as I was by a collection of people. Understand that MS. Batista wrote a memo after the bullying complaint where she said there is no reason to have due process and she can't take back this memo because it's in writing, and this will be going to everybody I can think of to give a complaint to, so please don't put yourselves in a position of going along with having no process for people to appeal or not be removed until you ascertain whether people are are lying or not, which they were. thank you. hi, jackie, I want to give some relevant backdrop to this meeting today. Back on JUNE 24, you have

190the task force in front of you to present their recommendations. And they were split on two things, for start, they would -- a little shot down if you remember, the chair, cynthia, made an impactful speech about not shutting down that kind of a presentation. The arrangement that was articulated leer was when policy 1070 came back before you, the task force would be allowed to present on that element of the recommendations relating to policy 1070. That hasn't happened today, it was the point we made back at the beginning of this meeting was there hasn't been any advertising of the fact other than on civicplus which is -- who of you could have told us where these meetings were advertised, which parents in this district know what civic mr us is, how to access it or they

191have to go there and not to to school board agenda oar to the school board calendar to find out what you are going to be doing in a a meeting. We didn't realize that was rule making today and that process that we were promised has not been honored, thank you. thank you. linda f erra ra, cooper city, I would have caressed all of my comments on 1070 if I knew it was rule making. I didn't bring those notes with me. A couple of the issues, the four year term was discussed almost for five years. The reason for the four year term was because of the time it takes a volunteer who works in the district part time to understand how to navigate the system. You don't do it in a meeting for two hours once

192a month. it takes time, it takes years, like any job does, it becomes a job, it becomes part of our passion because of our students that attend the school. It's important to us that we understand what it is. It's important for us to develop the relationship with staff. So, to go back to two years is turning the wheel back. I've been doing this for 30 years, this is a loop for me, every time I come around, it's the same thing, the sail discussion. As far as reviewing the bylaws in the policy, every two years, there's a reason for that, because sunshine manual changes, I look at sunshine manual every year. They put out a new manual every year with new reiterations of something or another that the legislature's decided which is not reflected in policy,

193it's not reflected in bylaws, which we need to do but I do reflect it in my traipsing -- training material. If you're requesting that there be personnel or a definitive number of people and positions in your policy, that has changed every year on the organizational chart. Now we have to go back and see what position of that department sits on to figure out who is the appropriate person to put back on that committee. Private example is csac, we have old department names on there, if I look back at the organizational charts, things have changed over the last five years, so take out definitive department names within a policy and put them in your bylaws which is easier to change. Or keep them inconsistent because it screws up a committee when you do it and I

194know there were a couple of other changes that were made but I'm not going to get into those. thank you, MR. Cervera, we're circling back to you. Do you still have questions? no, ma'am. ). thank you, and welcome back to the school board workshop. Our next item is the office of safe schools quarterly report. I will now turn it over to staff for a brief presentation. good after the moonshiner my name is morgan, I'm one of our klein coordinators with our safety, security and emergency preparedness division. I believe that you guys have already seen the -- the board members have seen these quarterly reports as they have been released during the school year. they're ready o go straight to questions if it's the will of the board. that's fine, any board members have questions? I

195would like a one or two minute summary. You guys have done a lot of work to good get this presentation ready. I would like to see what your important points are. regarding our conclusion for our end of school year, we do hope that with some of our changes we've gotten throughout the school year, making earlier deadlines for training here within the school district to ensure we'll meet state deadlines and statutory deadlines, that will be one key component with helping us meet expectations and exceed expectations. We've also made some changes to our structure within safety, security and emergency preparedness, particularly our area security managers and having a staff of individuals na are overseeing compliance and supporting compliance with site visits and review of data and information and also providing support to our schools. We did see

196a small drop with our last quarter being some items that could not be corrected which is why we've implemented some of those changes and we hope to see additional progress within our next school year. And additionally I would like the share board member zeman had asked about suggested data and information, but we had review of the data verified with our office of safe schools representatives that the need for adjusted data was no longer there, we don't have that as a necessity because we saw a one to one change with the items that were being marked as deficient, instead of it being just documentation as a broad category, they were lazing one item to mark as a deficiency for a compliance concern as opposed to multiple items which how it was initially communicated to us, so

197it went from one item to a different item. All of that being equal. Would you like me to clarify a little more, board member zeman? we can talk about it off-line. absolutely, that's quite alright. That's why we don't have that in the presentation. I skipped over public comment, let's go to there. DR. Natalie lynch-walsh. good afternoon, DR. Natalie lynch-walsh, plantation, florida, since this is a very brief presentation, I'm a little concerned about the percentages. I think that this is on the state though because they base the percentages on no deficiencies which it seems counterintuitive, you would usually want to see the per sen centage with deficiencies. We also don't have the entire tools, so what I did is go o the florida administrative code to see exactly what all they might be looking at, at

198the schools, and emergency drills are one of the things that are mentioned which moving forward is just to reassure the school board. The audit committee left off looking at a piece of safety and security by way of the intercom audit and one of the things we left off with was all of the amounts of money that was being spent on the intercoms and the different iterations of intercoms. It was the last thing on the agenda for MAY that did not get discussed, so, in all of my sort of free time, I can now focus on referring all of the concerns the audit committee had because one of the functions of the office of safe schools, they are prevention, intervention and emergency preparedness planning, making sure you have functioning mass notification systems which we don't have

199or at least functioning xlaoun kaition systems and getting to the bottom of that, under best pranksters, they list the standards that we did not look at before embarking on all of that, so to anyone who thought that the intercom systems would no longer be discussed simply because I was no longer the audit committee chair, just rest assured it will be referred to the county inspector general and the office of safe schools. Thank you. thank you, next we have felicia schumann. good afternoon, MADAM Chair, DR. Hepburn and esteemed board leaders. Board members. I want to take a moment to address important recommendations based on the last office of safe school quarterly report for broward county. First, while we have made significant progress with a strong overall compliance rate esspshlly amongst traditional public schools, there's still room

200for improvement. Our inspection revealed that some schools continue to struggle with key safety areas such as documentation, door and gate security and timely completion of required staff training. To address these challenges, i recommend the following, enhanced training management, we must ensure all designated staff complete their safety training on time. To do this, we should implement automated reminders and early deadlines to give staff ample time to comply. Strengthen security protocols, schools need additional support and resources to improve physical security measures, particularly regarding doors and gates. This could include regular audits, upgrades to locking systems and increased security presence where needed. Improved documentation and follow-up, accurate and timely documentation is crucial. We should streamline recordkeeping processes and increase oversight to guarantee all safety deficiencies are addressed quickly and effectively. We should also expand monitoring and accountability by

201recognizing and empowering area security managers, we can enhance compliance monitoring and ensure that schools are held accountable for maintaining safety standards. Lastly, I encourage ongoing collaboration amongst school leaders, security teams and district officials to sustain these improvements. Together we can create a safer learning environment that protects our students and staff. thank you. thank you very much. Back to questions. DR. Zeman, did you have anything else? no, thank you very much, chair. MR. Cervera? thank you, MADAM Chair. A couple of points and comments, and a question. In reviewing the quarterly report for 24 and 25, I just want to make sure I was reading this right because I'm not a math guy, nor do I proclaim to be one, but I'm reviewing this, percentage of inspected schools with no school safety requirement deficiencies was 37%. Right.

202So, does that mean that 63% of schools had issues? yes, sir, that is correct. okay. at least one, it does not give quantitative daut ta as to how many or how compliant or deficient that individual school is. The first page that's on this is what is presented to us by the office of safe schools, that is how they provide us that data and the breakdown. and MR. Lozano has something to add back there? how many schools were in that sample of that -- that were assessed that quarter? for that quarter, there was only 27 schools assessed, so that is 37% of that 27, so that would mean that the other 17 were the total that had a deficiency identified. so, we inspected 27 schools and 17 of them had an issue? that is correct. One

203or more, yes. that sounds bad to me. and it's a sample of our traditional public and charter public schools so that is a total of almost 330 to 350 school locations. and could a deficiency being something as simple as the sro didn't follow the right route that day or a gate was left unlocked? there are a multitude of different items at a level, it could be a gate that was left unlocked, it could be that they did not have an exemption appropriately identified dpr something that could have been unlocked. It could be a document that was posted on the school campus in a certain location, so there's a multitude, it's not just that we don't have a safe school officer on campus or things that are a really high level concern. Something as small as

204documentation for the item that they have completed. if I could ask you to add on to that as far as the items, getting involved in this, it's a little ambiguous, they're going through the state rules and statutes and they don't check all of them. They on each visit, they check a certain subset of what's out there and then if you could clarify, are they checking the same schools each quarter? no, they are not, it is new schools every quarter. so you can't really track -- does the performance of the same cohort of schools, you're looking at results of different cohorts every quarter, maybe a different subset of each quarter. and one of the items we discussed, items while we have resolved them in the district, someone took a training late, they took that training and

205it has been resolved, no matter when that is identified through that school year, it will be cited as a deficiency by the office of safe schools because it was conducted late which is why we address the fact we have set our timing deadlines earlier than the state requirements to ensure that whatever our deadline is, even if we are running a day or two late with those which we hope to not have that occur, that we will still be meeting the state expectations. so, setting that deadline at a later point in time, does that give us more opportunity to become compliant? yes, that is correct. That we would -- having that earlier deadline here within 30 days requiring a training for threat management instead of the state required 60 days would give us that opportunity to

206make sure we are resolving and still meeting those expectations of the state so we can set higher standards internally and that's what we're choosing to do. are you satisfied with the 0% number? no, I don't believe so, I think we can improve, absolutely. MADAM Chair, if I MAY, perhaps this is best directed at our general counsel. I took a look at the version of the statute that's referenced in here in the office of safe schools specifically, 1000.212 and section 11 c-1, there was a directive specifically repeated by the legislator imposing a deadline of AUGUST 1, 2025 and specifically what the statute says, by AUGUST 1, 2025, the office shall develop, host, maintain and administer a threat management portal that will digitize the florida specific behavioral threat assessment instrument by use by each school district, governing

207board and charter school. Where are we with that? Just realizing AUGUST 1 was a couple of days ago. MADAM Chair, mike grig, chief safety and security. There has been challenges with the state getting the portal accessible to all single sign-on users across the state. We do have access in our district, boast our district based threat management manager as well as the backup district threat based manager have access and we've directed our schools to be entering their btm's in the ems system so, we were able to track all that activity vial we wait for the state to resolve the issue with single sign-on into their state portal. We have provided the state with a ly of all the users we have pr the district that need ak -- access and it's on their list of issues

208to resolve and get updated for our users to be able to access it. so, we're just waiting on tallahassee? that's correct. thank you, MRS. Rupert? I had my questions answered by staff but I would like to hear it on the record. My question was how the resignation -- I'm sorry, how the reorganization of area security managers will increase compliance. DR. Hepburn? chief gregory? thank you for the question. as you heard, we have done a reorganization of our area security managers, we have 14 of those positions, we've divided them into two team of 7 for this current school year. They're in two teams of 7. One team will continue with their traditional responsibilities with building relationships on campus, addressing operational issues for security at each of the schools, overseeing the security teams, providing input as to

209security measures and compliance with all the aboutinviters the security staff need to be involved in. Other team will help us on the compliance issues, they'll be reporting to a different division and they will be our own internal auditors you might categorize them, they'll be making school visits, they have a checklist of items off of the rules, state rules, as well as state law that need to be complied with at each of the school facilities and this will give us the ability to focus on these areas we found deficiencies in, in our internal audits as well as the sterm one with our visitors that come in and do these checks so we're looking to boost up our compliance with the rules and deficiencies we have on the report by having this dedicated team focusing on compliance

210issues strictly and helping to educate the principals and the school security staff on what they need to be staining care take -- taking care of. thank you, I think it's extremely important to not om tell us about the reorganization of the area security managers but also why and how they're going to be utilized so I appreciate that very much, thank you. MRS. Alhadeff? thank you, MS. Rupert, for bringing that up. To MRS. Rupert's point though, and I appreciate you explaining the 7 and 7, but 7 asm's going to all of our schools, checking the compliance, I don't believe is enough asm's, I believe we need more. So, I would ask the board if we could ask the superintendent to come back to us to see what it would look like to even add five more

211asm's o do those compliance checks because how are they really getting to every school to make all those checks and then I would want to make sure we are holding them accountable to those checks and then when the florida office of safe schools does go and they nd something, t t asasshld be accocountae. I mean, I t that mamae e a doorhypothetically could be propped over one day and unlocked, but if -- there just needs to be stronger accountability, but I would strongly recommend to the board we ask the superintendent to increase the number of asm's. DR. Hepburn? thank you for the recommendation and insight, MS. Alhadeff. If you can give us probably about 30 days to collect data of how the current team is doing, I was doing math in my head, if they

212go to two, three schools, 20 days out of the month, if you count five days, 60 schools times 7, like, I'm not the best math guy at this age anymore, let's see what they can come up with, what -- what is that, 360, let's see what they can accomplish in day and is then we can follow up with the memo of some sort to see how it's going and if we have an additional need. Yup. thank you, and I'll come back to you, DR. Zeman. I have a quick question, this is done by the office of safe schools. We don't do -- like the numbers on this report come from someone from the state coming to check on us, is that correct? the first slide is the numbers that have come from the office of

213safe -- comes from the office of safe schools but E.G. That is calculated comes from those site visits. but they come and check everything? Frnl yes, ma'am. great, because my main concern is they don't do very many quarterly, we have 240-something schools so you would only get to a little over 100 at this rate, that mops every school's not being checked every year but if the state does that, that's nothing we can really do about it. I can provide clarification, they're required by statute to visit every school in the state once every three years. They're on track to probably do once every two years or just over that because they're visiting about half, they're doing more than their minimum requirement and then we are required to visit every one of our schools at least once

214every year kl we did complete last year with our staff but those were staff that were also addressing items regarding employment and additional security staff items so now having this focus we hope to not only visit every school once with that group of individuals but have follow-ups and reinspections to ensure maintaining compliance. okay, thank you. And I would just say we gave the superintendent a directive to find a large chunk of money for employee raises, so, if we were to add staff which we're trying to down-size, I would think I would hope that that came with -- if we're increasing one, we're decreasing something else, so, that we're staining in compliance with the question we asked which was for you to bring us back a budget that had a large chunk of money for pay

215raises. DR. Zeman, you wanted to add something? yes, four things, one, the standards that the office of safe schools have, does that represent 100% of the security requirements for a public school? no, sir. and when they visit, they pick sol of those and they do some of our schools. The state statute is very specific though in the sense that it says we have to at a public meeting declare how many of the schools were completely free of any safe defect they chose to look at? Rjt yes, sir. a really good measure of overall safety is looking at the items times the schools and how many individual items, if there's a document missing at one school, that counts as a deficiency and that school goes into what MR. Cervera is pointing out, 63% of our schools

216had at least one deficiency. When you're looking at 20-40 items on a school, one document puts you into that state required statistic which is a way to define it. When you put all of those items together, 95% of those were compliant. yes, sir. I'm 100% guy, I am about safety. I know we're driving towards that, it's also human beings and very rarely do I or anyone else operate perfectly at 100%, I know it's really important. I also noticed that public charter schools are a slight bit below traditional public schools. I'm aoem not -- not going to compete at 100% with chart, do we help them understand how to increase their level with this specific state inspection, do we reach out to franklin academy, do we reach tout the others. I think MS. Ba t is

217that has all their phone number sos we know how to get in touch with them and we provide tons of support, our psychologists do mental testing there, professional development for them, is this an area of a greenfield for us where we can reach out and try and improve how our neighbors' kids are doing in pub public charter schools? I'll address that, we can always improver but when it comes to our compliance items and safety and security, the absolute best to treat our traditional public schools and our charter public schools equitably with their support and information, I have their direct phone numbers myself to reach out and communicate, I send direct communications as well to those principals, when we have training, we are addressing them quarterly in training as well to charter presence pals in presentations,

218we do site visits in our charter schools and provide that support. I believe I spoke with about three different charter schools this morning to address items and questions they had and provide support so we do try to treat them equitably and always see additional support is needed, go out to the site and assist them in that way. But we can always improve in those aspects, if a memo goes out, that information is provided to both sets if something is presented in compliance to say traditional school principals, we're providing that same nrftion to our charter school principals trying to make sure they're getting the best information possible. it's difficult to do better than another organization and then call that organization and say, would you like us to teach you how to do it better. I suspect

219chief gregory and the chiefs that have similar positions with charter schools, we have some charter school companies that have over a dozen charter schools in broward county, those levels will have a chief gregory-like person, not like chief gregory, but another guy that is responsible for that. Our asm's going out and alining to their equivalent of asm's and things like that. This is the second year I have seen significantly higher scores, but those are our kids neighbors too, our transportation and safety, there's a lot of good reason and broward county expects this, for us to take care of all the kids even though they don't choose our traditional public schools. Last point, how does 95% compliance over the four quarters last year compare to other large urban digits in florida? sorry, I can't address that directly,

220this is something we've chosen to monitor directly and that is something that I can see the data or we can see the data from other school districts. how about the 37% that are of schools that have no safety deficiencies, how does that compare to other districts? it's a terrible measure by the way, MR. Cervera MAY not want to be a math guy, he can cite statutes and subsections than anyone I have ever seen but this is a difficult measure, if you have 30 items you -- that are being inspected, they still have a deficiency, so it's like not a normal distribution with which you can do a lot of inference from, but given that deficiency, how are we doing at 37% compared to other large urban districts in florida? when we did have conversations earlier

221on, that is another metric that is not shared amongst districts directly from the office of safe schools. They do not make that available unless we're reviewing our public meetings of our other districts. When we reached out earlier, we saw us going about even with a lot of other district, some were higher, some requester lower in comparison to those larger districts as well. When you're talking a school district that has ten schools, there's kind of some different expectations there or maybe they have a greater ease or greater challenges and it's hard to compare apples to ap unless that regard, so we are falling in the middle with some of those larger school districts. many mr superintendent, my standards are higher than that. If it's a public meeting in day palm beach, shims bro e, I think

222we should have that data, as a follow-up, MR. Superintendent, could you get us the top 7 urban district ins florida for their stats on page 2 and page 3? noted. I appreciate it. Again, everyone's got a lot of work to do, if we're thinking about dinging staff and then to MS. Hixon's point, but that means we have to find five place where is we've already trimmed. We've given hair cuts o people who are bald, that's how bad our budget is, alright, so I'm not sure we can find five out of 30 thousand positions to cut to add five. It's really tight. However, if we're at 95% on one scale and 37% on another and we're significantly above or as good as all the other urban districts, it probably says we're doing really well and again,

223you cannot inspect inquality, so we have prover this over and over again, inspections by themselves are good but they don't really generate enthusiasm or engagement or the human element of safety. That's done through our leadership. And so inspecting inquality by having more inspectors of inspectors MAY not be the way we're going, not when you're at 95% compliance, now you're trying to get that one door or one sticker on a window that flaked off and no one noticed it or kid took it off, you're not going to fix those kind of very, very slow percentage of mistakes in a way by having more inspections. You're going to have that because people are motivated to keep an eye open, and to me, anybody that thinks you can inspect inquality isn't paying attention, that gets you a little

224bit but it doesn't get you what engagement and attentiveness and leadership gets you in term of the human element and so many of these things including cyber security, physical security and the like, school security is about human beings doing the right things and caring deeply about it so they see that door and they go shut it and they find the person that put the mrok on -- block on the door and said don't do that. If you don't get it, you're not paying attention, but we need people to care, we don't need more inspections to be honest with you. Is that roughly equivalent to your understanding? yes, and we have those sadirons with our staff and try to ignite that fire in individuals. I appreciate that. I hear it at every meeting and every school

225visitor, broward county takes security very seriously. Sxfrjt we can work on that. It would be the data from slide 2. That would be something they would have to provide us in detail, we break that down here in broward county, was what is provided to the districts is in slide 2, more than that would not necessarily be presented at their board meetings. if you have three, that's great. I understand two comes from the office of safe schools so they have to present it publicly. If they have it, great. It would help us because it's a much better statistic than the number of schools that have one or 17 deficiencies, come on, that's -- it's hard to act on a statistic like that. thank you so much. Thank you, staff, very much for coming and we appreciate

226the time to ask questions. Okay. The next item -- the last item for today is the office of the chief auditor. Chief auditor evaluation feedback and action steps. I will turn it over to MR. Rhodes for his presentation. thank you very much. dave rhodes, chief auditor, and when it comes to the comment the -- the board comments that were provided to me, I responded in short action steps to try to create that bridge to some of the concerns the board members had but because there was some discussion at the time about incompetence and insubordination, I felt like I had to at least identify areas where yellow book is the objective guidance that I have to follow and how I can understand how in certain cases that that could either have a feel or a sense

227of insubordination. If you saw that as many times as I wrote it in there and I'm sure you did, you'll have an idea of why I did that, I'm trying to work with the objective observations or subjective observe vase -- observations and compare that to the object tier sthards I have to deal with. I do understand regardless of all that, that the communication model is is being requested to improve. The cooperation and collaboration -- do I even have that? the powerpoint? I don't have a powerpoint, I just have the matrix that was put in here. do you want it up? no, unless anybody else needs it up, I thought everybody had the chance to review that, so if we're good, that's one less thing to worry about. So, there's a couple of things -- thank

228you -- a couple of things I wanted to focus on that came up a couple of times in here and that was the ai and audits and the actual continuing professional education credits. They're not limited to ai, they're not limited to any one subject, there are many subjects that we look at when we do these training, some have to do with auditing and accounting, some of them have to do with behavioral, some of them have o do with general professional development and some of them have to do with having a better understanding of the standards that guide us, and so when looking at this and being asked to kind of expand the breadth of the things that we study when we have to collect 40 credits of continuing education per year, I just wanted to

229reinforce and provide the board with some information that identifies that we do get a varying degree of what it is we're looking at. We have to put in 12 of the have to be directly related to auditing and accounting and then the remaining credits allow us to expand and explore areas that might be of great interest to us here in the district that will help us with our work or areas has we might want to improve in and expand as we move out from there, so that's the part that has to to do with ai and continuing education. The other thing is that I put some examples in here of instances in which there was collaboration and work together with staff to resolve larger district issues, one of them we talked about were the covid

230laptops. The other that didn't get mentioned in here but that has happened since has been that we've worked collaboratively together with the teaching and learning group that requested that we do everything possible to avoid any disruption in classrooms during testing as well as to avoid any disruption in the week leading up to, during and after school opens, and we've readjusted our schedules to make sure we can acomecommodate that. So, those are some of the washes I don't think that they rise to the level of both knowledge or understanding but there's certainly a way we're collaborating and cooperating with staff to make sure that we help improve overall operations as well as in this case we MAY very well have been partially, however small, responsible for the improved grades that happened by avoiding those disruptions as

231we were requested. When we can, we will. If we can't, we'll make sure we communicate that adequately and as in-depth as necessary. With that in mind, I'm willing to accept any questions or comments that you have. thank you, we have two public speaker, DR. Natalie lynch-walsh? good afternoon, DR. Natalie lynch-walsh. So, plantation florida, I am here in support of the chief auditor, just to review real quick how we got here, within a week after me being removed as the chair of the audit committee, one of you brought an item to try to fire your chief auditor. When someone is competent, compliant is not corrupt and is honest, I'll collaborate them all day long, every day, that's why I'm standing here when I have other thing tos do so I can bear witness to whatever might

232trance transpire next. I appreciate MS. Thompson did an action plan to pull out the train wreck that was happening that day, I don't think that gets us to what she was trying to accomplish because a lot of these things -- I think we're under the impression it would be a majority of board members so you can see where there was overlap and most of these are one board member said this, two said that, and if you MAY recall, I sent you where a lot o of the criticism has represented threat tos the chief auditor's independence which is a problem. It's not something you want to do. You don't want to threaten your chief auditor's independence. And I would also like the note that so far, you have three direct reports, your chief auditor's evaluation was

233put on full public display with a lot of misinformation and was a -- all over the place. You have your other two direct reports if I'm not mistaken, your general counsel's evaluation is happening right now with your superintendent's right behind and I remember a comment being made at one of the prior meetings that they're looking forward to the other two. I don't know what that means to you guys, to me as a member aof the public, I expect all your direct reports to be treated the same. I can name multiple instances during MS. Batista's evaluation period where she has given you bad advice or I have had to fact check her and all of these things should be camber you can smile all you want. All of these things should be discussed because MR. Rhodes

234was accused of all kinds of crazy things, same goes for your superintendent whose evaluation is coming up in SEPTEMBER. I think his might be required to be discussed at an open board meeting but there is nothing having done it for one direct report that should prevent someone -- I'm not saying you need to be tori and bring a an item to fire her ore d e daniel, you caning bring a b item to discuss her evaluation because there's lots to be said about your other two direct reports. They should all be treated the same. So, I'm here to support him and I hope we move on from whatever this is that happens here, thank you. thank you. MS. Felicia schumann. Good afternoon, MADAM Chair, DR. Hepburn, and esteemed board leaders. As a community advocate, I

235want to speak about the recent evaluation of our chief auditor and why it matters to all of us. The audit office plays a crucial role in making sure our schools and district resources are managed with transparency and accountability. The evaluation shows there are areas where the chief auditor needs to improve engagement and communication with the board and the community. This is important because we deserve clear timely information about how our schools are being overseen. I'm encouraged to see plans for new training and artificial intelligence and data analytics. These tools will help the audit team better identify risks and protect our schools and resorts. We need audits that don't just check boxes but really dig into the details to prevent problems before they happen. It's also vital that audit recommendations are based on strong evidence and

236that resources focus on the highest risk areas. This ensures taxpayers' money is spent wisely. Communication is the key, both with the board and with us, the community. We want to see more transparency and regular updates so we know our concerns are being heard and addressed. While it's clear the auditor's offices must remain independent, I support the idea of training for school leaders to understand compliance and audit procedures better. When everyone is informed, we all benefit. In closing, I urge continued efforts to strengthen the audit functions because strong oversight means stronger schools and stronger communities. Thank you. thank you very much. School board members? Anybody want to speak on that? DR. Zeman? thank you so much. It's good to have a process like we do where we not only have a team to help support the

237assessment provided by the superintendent but we have the opportunity to look at the body of evidence and to provide our own evaluation of our direct reports. I'm curious about why we're doing this particular exercise, chair? Was this motivated by school board member's comment, was this motivated by the chief people officer memo that highlighted where there were consistent areas of concern, or why are we at this point where there is an action step being presented to us today? MR. Rhodes? the board asked hr to provide those comments and I was given those comments and responded as I was asked to do. terrific. And I appreciate that. Let me share a few reactions to this particular table. One, you know, there are clear competencies here in the areas of concern that were in my mind some earnest

238effort by the school board members to write things based on their observations and other facts associated with it. There's a couple of places where I continue to find concern. One is in the use of the yellow book. If you want to as an auditor find something that provides the basis for audits, that's wonderful. If you want to as an auditor point out the objectivity and the independence as being an essential element of the job, I agree with that a thousand percent, but I'm curious about why the yellow book is used as an explanation for the school board members, plural, assessment about needing improvement and being responsive to the board? My sense is that being responsive to the board is independent of audit requirements. Often the school board is debating an issue and would like to

239know whether it's been covered in an audit. They have a concern and they're like, is this a good case for doing an audit in the future, would this be something we should think about adding to the plan. I can't think of any independent, challenging or audit book compliance issue with the role of you in a school board meeting. So, when the school board's evaluation is the comment, lack of engagement and participation in a school board meeting, more input -- or the board input is minimal and reactive, I get it, but your answer is I'll take steps to engage and think but ensuring full compliance with the yellow book. I don't understand why the audit standard is related to responsiveness to the board to which you report. well, I can give you some examples. There could

240be a situation where like earlier when we had the folks up here from safety and security. I have safety and security audit that's on the audit plan and I have observations and I have comments that could have been made but MAY have provided a session as to both the objectivity and independence of the engagement when I undertake that. The yellow book tells me to stay away from those kind of things so I can maintain that objectivity and independence. That's one example. another example is that I MAY be either asked or urged or influenced or attempted to be influenced by a a board member to take action that would be in direct conflict with the yellow book standards, so for example, let's say I was asked to go train staff. Yellow book standards say to maintain

241my objectivity, staff trains staff, I assess staff on what they've been trained to do. So, that's why I say there's a differentbacker difference in a subjective type of question or comment being made versus the objectivity that the yellow book brings back into that conversation. If there's a situation where a comment is being made by a board member that the chief auditor needs to train staff, I would invoke the requirements of the yellow book standard to say that would necessarily xropz the objectivity that the yellow book standards require me to adhere to in government audits and that's why yellow book is in this -- I would suggest that you sit down the people that shared these comments with you and see if they feel like their request for you to be more responsive to the board

242has noig do with the details of independence or compliance with the yellow book or whether it's something that's xlao etly dependent, that might be a worthwhile exercise for you. My second question is about training. It's clear from our findings and exceptions there's tremendous need for training in our schools and other places to make sure we reduce the number of findings and exceptions and build with the community we're add allocating resource ins way and we spend them in a manner that passes all standards. Would it have been possible instead of saying I can't train the superintendent staff because of yellow book, would it have been possible to sals say but I can look at trends and audits and I can identify problems that exist out there generally and I can give you some requirements for training

243that you need to go develop the training around, but as your auditor, without violating yellow book, could you identify trends in findings and exceptions? yes, there's a couple of ways we do that consistently, one is developing the criteria in the audits we use when we cite areas in which those pieces of guidance were not complied with that. That's what we tell to the audit team and the community at large. another way is that when we are having these action and audits campaign that the office of the xhaoef auditor is doing, one of the things we do is we make sure that we identify to the participants that this is not a training session, we want to make sure they're clear this is not a training session, if anything, this is an awareness session that will

244help you to understand being more aware of what your guidance is, is the opportunity for you to have a more sharp, compliant operation, what you would also therefore identify audit findings. I think a lot of people are not aware of guidance or they're busy trying to keep a lot of plates spinning at the same time as well. I tried to account for that but I can't do anything that would otherwise avoid an audit finding if I found found something na's a reportable finding. I can have the conversation with them and let them know this is how the rules were applied, this is where the rules come from, but there's only so much that you can do without stepping over into say in the future, that's a no-no, the recommendation and is the way the findings

245are laid out ultimately lead to that type of a comment that wasn't made. if they're looking at what it is that was found, what it is that could avoid that from happening again in the future, tla's awareness that's happening real-time and in action and audits and that's one of the reasons I want today put that together. is it violation in the yellow book for you to train bsc staff or staff on the yellow book? on the yellow book, no. thank you. I don't believe it would be. and the blaster comment on additional comments, there's a school board member that said fail to distribution written communications by the specified data in the document or to immediately notify the superintendent or board of concerns. And you referenced in your steps that the agreed upon method has been

246established and will be enforced going forward. What is the agreed upon method? during the evaluation follow-up meeting that happened on JUNE 10, there was concern about the letter that was sent and received by board members late. There was a request that that not happen again in the future. I agreed to that and I will say one other thing in support of that and many -- in defense of that. generally these audits when they go out with the package, they go out to the board and the superintendent at the same time. So, I say that to say that it's not only possible but probable that that letter that was the point of contention at that moment had gone out at the same time and it either wasn't seen, it wasn't reviewed, it wasn't read, but I'm

247still sitting here willing to take full accountability for that in saying my response to the question that was brought up on JUNE 10 which is what are you going to do many the future to make sure this doesn't happen again, I said, I'm going to comply with the requirement that at the same time that these letters that are dated and addressed to the board, the audit committee and the superintendent, but specifically the board are going to go to the board on that day regardless. That is what -- that is what that statement was identifying that was agreed upon. are you adding new information today that you think that it's possible that the memo in question MAY have actually been distributed to the school board and to the superintendent on the date of the memo? I

248know that it's a part of our process but not expecting this particular question, that's why I'm saying I think, I don't know that as fact, I know our process is when the information goes out to the audit committee at the same time it goes to the school board members and to the superintendent. okay. We can talk more about that at another time. Last point is there was a comment by the school board about needing to ep han skills and leveraging data anl lilt I cans to address trends, anomaly and is potential risks and the response is ai training. There's a whole body of data analytics and statistics and applied statistics that have been sensed by auditors for decades, it's a way of leveraging data in a way to find where to go look. Ai is

249a tool in which you can do that at scale and do it without doing structured programming to get to that same outcome but that's like a tool and the comment is really about data analytics, about how you create a sample, how do you have confidence intervals, how do you communicate to people when you have taken a sample that the findings don't just scale, you can't take a 10% sample and then just take the individual findings and multiply them by 10 and say, oh, if I found four out of ten in this, there must have been 40, that kind of analytics I suspect MAY have been behind that. Is there anything besides ai that you would do to make sure your staff leverages data analytics in order to identify trends, anomalies and potential risks? yes, in

250response in my self-appraisal, there were a couple of different exhibits I included that showed trending as well as areas that were areas of continued concern with regard to audit areas they were laid out within audit area in my graph and graphed out and showed what is the stren, the data, the analytics to see how we were getting to this information, so yeah, it's right in the the self-appraisal document, a couple of the different exhibits show graphic depictions of exactly what you just described. thank you. MRS. Rupert? thank you so much. I appreciate it and I didn't want it to go unsaid how much integrity our auditor has and I appreciate that and I appreciate him having the availability and also welcoming conversation about how to do well in his job and I'm hoping this is

251the last conversation that we have in this line so we can continue moving forward and we can get back on going in the right direction but I didn't want to MISS The opportunity to remind the chief auditor that he is a man of integrity and I appreciate his contribution to the whole school board of broward county and all of us, so thank you so much. thank you. Anybody else? Okay. I echo MRS. Rupert's sentiments and words, you know, thank you for what you do and getting back to us. thank you. anybody else? Alright. That is the end of all of the items. At this time, do any of my colleagues have anything to bring to the board or student success to share? DR. Holness? thank you, MADAM Chair, so, MADAM Chair, I am so proud

252of wearing this a rated pin and I know it was given out during the superintendent state of the district. So, DR. Hepburn, I wanted to find out because I'm sure that our staff, our teachers and our district leadership will be happy in wearing this badge, so, is there -- what is -- I'm sorry? We're good? So, I want to find out, can you determine the cost in getting a lot of these and having our teachers, our wonderful staff who worked so diligently who achieved this can also wear this? MR. Sullivan's team in communication did the research and purchase, aisle make sure I pass the message along to make sure to get the cost for all of our staff. I've had security ask for some. I've had teachers that called me that wanted to wear these,

253so I think we all should proudly make this available. we'll look at a cost for every staff member for broward county schools. and lastly, MADAM Chair, I want to say, you know, I wish all of our schools across the district a successful year. I had an awesome day yesterday and I could just see the joy on our parents, our students, our teachers, our staff and how happy and proud they felt in coming back to broward county schools, especially I have seen the difference even more so this year because we have done so much, we have achieved so much in a concerted way with everyone on board being an a district, seeing multiple schools improve and so on, so it was a great day and it was wonderful to be a part of the tour. I

254personally went to around 7 schools and I want to welcome principal jennings for banion and welcome MS. Williams for william dandy and thank all of the broward estates. I know we had multiple conversations about broward estates and I went to mlk as well as to plantation and those principals and staff and teachers and parents, it was wonderful to see all of that in motion because of a decision we made as a board that did so well for that community, so thank you, mlk, plantation and broward estates and all of the principals across the district and the teachers and staff, thank you. thank you, MRS. Rupert? thank you, MADAM Chair. I wanted to thank the superintendent and staff and everybody for their wonderful welcome back yesterday and a great success at our first day of school

255but I would be remiss if I didn't appreciate the lyon's creek pick off switch, parents were excited, community members were excited, the children were excited and I had one woman, I won't say who she is, who e-mailed me this morning and said that the first time in ten years, she was able to ride her bicycle in the community between the hours of 8:00 and 4:00 in the afternoon, so that's just a little tiny representation of the freedom now given to the community in northern coconut creek and all of our students and families, so I appreciate that. It was a promise that we as a board agreed to and I just want to thank our staff and the city of coconut creek staff for truly really bringing this about, so thank you and I'm looking forward

256to having much more success this year. Thank you. thank you. MS. Thompson? thank you, chair. I just had a couple questions for the superintendent. When are we getting -- bh are we discussing during our workshop the district mental health analysis, I know that got sent to us. What are the next steps for that? we'll look at the calendar, it will probably be one of the first workshops in SEPTEMBER. I know we wanted to bring back several things for the workshop in AUGUST, my mind's fo foggy, they were important and we didn't want to add additiononal ing to have lengthy y conversati, we'l probablyriri it in the first -- I wanted to meet with me first so we can go over the next steps, so most likely it will be in SEPTEMBER. I personally love 12

257hour meetings. [Laughter]. Not really. The second thing I wanted to bring up and I done have the timeline, but it seems like there are times when the board is told that things will come back and then they don't come back on that timeline or something comes back that was not exactly what we talked about, so for example, the facilities condition assessment. I remember distinctly being told it's going to come back, it's going to come back, it's going to come back in the summer. And then what we got in the summer was, this is what it is, not necessarily this is the outcome of it, and I'm not suggesting that we rush it, I'm just suggesting that when a timeline changes like that, that we know, or there's a way to notify us. The other thing

258that -- and I don't have the dates but I believe we discussed it in the APRIL meeting is the rfp. That was supposed to come back and we haven't heard anything about it since, so what is happening with that? good question. I haven't had a chance to -- yesterday was the first day of school, I kept saying monday, monday, monday, I forgot the first day of school was monday, MS. Batista and I were supposed to sit down and have a conversation about the rfp and the potential of it coming back here for a workshop, so if you give MS. Batista some time, of course it's already hit the screen and it's under the code of silence so we can clarify what we need to publicly tell the board and the public about the rfp not

259coming back to a workshop. alright. I feel like it's very important that when the board is told that it's going to come back, if it's not and 06b8 you guys knew it wasn't since you released it, like, if that's not in our purview, that's -- this is my first time doing something like that, if that's not supposed to be in our purview, we should have been told at that meeting when we talked about it for three, four hours. agreed. I think there's probably some confusion, interpretation by some team members, you know, as superintendent, I take full responsibility for that. I want to make sure that the communication we do send the public is accurate and legally sufficient of what I can tell the public at this time since it is in the code of silence,

260I take full responsibility for it not coming back and review the tape and it waser asked, can it come back and the answer was yes. So, I think some of the interpretation along the path up to dropping it on the street for bids and all of that, there was some muddy waters there, I want to meet with MS. Batista about what can we tell the public legally since it is in the cone of silence before we discuss or whatever we're going to tell the public but I take full responsibility for that. and that makes sense. Is there a way we can kind of keep track of like -- or does staff have like a running document where it's like, okay, so board said bring this policy back and then this is like the queue of

261what needs to come back and then this is the calendar. yes. or something so we can better hold staff accountable in super respectful ways but that way I'm not like, we were supposed to talk about this and on the dais, no, we're talking about it today. Er so, we have different layers, myself, I collect follow-ups, tasks that we have to complete based on the board meeting and listening to the feedback, and then we compare and contrast that information that he collects, that I collect and other team members collect, if there's some level of uncertainty, we'll go back to the video and then it's put into our planner system for a follow-up so whatever the case MAY be. One of the thins we've diagnosed is the planner system we use is probably not the best system

262for us to make sure that we're getting all of our follow-ups and we just had this discussion probably two weeks ago because we're finding some gaps here and there for some follow-ups and information that need to come back to the board. We need to find a better suite or a better system to make sure that we don't let anything get past us and so we have layers of people collecting information and we'll go back to the video if necessary just to clarify what the board ask was. and I'm not saying you guys aren't doing a good job in your unit, I'm saying it's good for the board to know what 's happening. We don't have to touch it, don't give us access to change things but at least see it and -- staff didn't forget,

263this is coming back or somehow incorporate us in what's happening. we will work with your assistance if that's possible to figure out a good system where they're informed about what's the task from a board meeting or workshop or what's a follow-up from a board meeting or a workshop. The e-mail follow-ups are easy because you submit that through e-mail but it's the discussion during board meetings where sometimes things go through a gap if we don't consolidate and things like that, we'll work with your assistance and find out what's the best system. okay, thank you. MR. Cervera? thank you, MADAM Chair. And for the record, I went to DR. Hepburn's state of the district address and I didn't even get a pin, so I would like one because I see all my colleagues wearing them. based on

264your high school grades, buddy. I want my c one then. Er we got you. [Inaudible] yeah, na was -- that was the criteria. I want to acknowledge and give a shout-out to district and some of the amazing schools I got to visit, DR. Holness beat me by one, I got to 6, he got to 7. Truly an amazing experience getting to be with the kids and the faculty and staff and getting to see all the smiling faces, even the nervous kinder -- kindergartners were cute. I got to work the car line, I got to serve food, I tried some of the sweet potato fries and they were good, just an overall great day, exciting day and I'm very much looking forward to a fantastic school year and in closing, I want to give a special

265shout-out at the principal starting at [Inaudible] thank you so much, chair. what are we covering on the AUGUST 26th workshop? I'm pulling it up now. the reason I'm bringing this up, chair, I think we've agreed at the end of workshops that we were going to talk about the next one or two workshops, so that we could weigh in on whether or not things need the slide one way or the other or do we want to propose dinging? they've been sending us a sheet with two things but I'm not sure if we got that one yet. you got your master training which is four hours which is separate and apart from the workshop so that won't be on beacon. Then the actual workshop, you'll have redefining school boundaries, rule development for policy 5090 and rule development

266for 8020. and john, excuse me, MR. Sullivan, is that a four hour block of time for which we're doing redefining and rule making for two policies? we have two hours for redefine, we have one hour for each of the policy and is your training is four hours for a total of 8 hours. okay. Terrific. Do we have any identified items for the 9th of SEPTEMBER? we have our advisory reports, the district strategic plan, rule development for 1020, attendance initiative and policy. terrific. And the -- we -- and you have another four hour training. I think that's the last four hour training, right? that is the last one, isn't it? Is there one in OCTOBER? Second to last, OCTOBER 21. and the only other comment for my colleagues, I hope that we take some time and

267read the hanover report. We hired a group of why do people go to this school or that school or home schools or mover out of the county. I think for us to balance policy and budget the right way, when we hire a firm to go out and answer a hard question, I hope we can have conversations that assume that you've read that report because that report has a lot of things. We could debate some of it, that's fine, but it does kind of tell us the answer to a lot of our questions which is do we need more asm's, do we need fewer teachers of this type, do we need to close schools rapidly because we continue to run out of money for good things we need to do like nurse and is librarian and

268is asm's and things like that, so that report to me I hope kind of serves as a foundation for our conversations as a board. It's something that we ask them to do and they put a lot of thought into it. Anything you got out of that report that you want to share, MR. Superintendent? I don't have all the information off the top of my head, he talked about more college and career courses, they talk about high quality instruction. They talked about a lot of the things that we're already doing. It's just about marketing and getting the narrative out about the amazing things we do in our classroom. I think it's work for some where they're listening to us. We have to work with an outside firm that actually does this every day, right, versus trying

269to work internally within our current capabilities, there are certainly firms that do this every day, all day, that can assist us in getting the message out. Many of the thins they listed, we already do. I know what goes on in many of the competitor schools, they're not offering dual enrollment courses and aa pi, at the degree we do, they're not offering academy, magnet ins the degree that we do. We went to south broward high school, the marine tech program, I've never been in that room, the level of -- just the type of program and the yamaha certification they can come out from and augment that with things this can do at the technical colleges or even immersing themselves in college courses in high school at the same time, I would dare any competitor to compare

270to the things we do for our kids so we just need to get our message out. There's some feedback. One of the things -- a big gap for us of concern is just providing more information just to our parents also. One of my goals is to ensure that we provide as much information to parents, the right type of information so they can hold us accountable for the things their kids should be engaged within our schools. i don't want to hear questions about the football field or the basketball court, I want to hear why is my kid not in this ace course, they're one or two courses away from being in a 7 course series to get that bright future scholarship. Why isn't my kid in algebra in 8th grade after they got a level 4

271in 7th grade math. Think about when we equip parent widths the right information so they can ask the right questions and hold us accountable. That's the goal. I was fascinated by the concept we don't do well which is parents of three and four year-olds make lifelong decisions for their kids of where to send them to kindergarten, we don't have access to them except for places where we have nurseries or some odd measure. That's outside of our normal.Er per view, how do we figure out thousand get to day care centers and to home school parents and make sure they enlist to our schools, parents of three or four year o els are making decisions where to go to kindergarten, often that kindergarten determines where they go to high school. Some of the stuff I found fascinating

272in that whole band of research, I appreciate it and give it a big double thumbs up for me if anybody has time the read. thank you, and I'll finish us up I guess, great first day, thank you to the teachers, the students, the staff, it was obvious they were excited to be in school. What a great day at martin luther king, DR. Martin luther king JR. Elementary school to see first the student -- wl, I guess we went in the ai and students were working on ai and the media center and doing some animation kind of things and then to go into a classroom and have a debate student stand up on the first day of school and just talk about how important kindness was with such great public speaking skills on day one with

273no -- we just kind of pulled her out of the chair and said, hey, you're in debate, let us see what you can do, it was awesome. Having the students lie down in the hallway at flamingo elementary and give us high 5's and be so excited and it makes me a proud mom to hear about DR. Hepburn talk about the marine program because I was part of implementing that before I became a school board member, so great things are happening in our schools and I'm really excited to start a new school year. I know that we're going to do great thins. I do have a question and i already spoke to the superintendent about it but I just kind of wanted to throw it out to staff and my colleagues. So, we have committee reports

274that come to a workshop where we discuss them and then there are not really mutt tee but organizational reports that come to a school board meeting and one of those is the ptaptsa, but what doesn't get included is pto which is a completely separate organization, they don't interact with each other and I think we're missing a large group of people because there are a lot of squalls that have moved to pto because they're less restrictive so I would like to be able to add to our reports and I don't know what the process of that is but to allow someone who could rep s enlt the district for pto's and I guess this is for MR. Sullivan, but I don't know how the pta, like, there's one for the district, do pto's have that or

275how would we go about including them so we don't MISS Out on that piece? I'm not familiar if they have one for the entire county, adding them would be under your purview. I think it's something we have to look at, maybe we reach out to the pto's and ask them to select someone to come and give a report or even if they just -- like the pta does often, send us something, but there's -- there's a whole -- we can do some research. yeah, if you could look into tla and maybe just even as a memo get back and say how we would be able to include the pto's. yes, ma'am. thank you so much. Anybody else? Alright, well, this scheduled order of business for the school board workshop of the school board of broward

276county, florida, has been completed. Seeing no obligation, I now adjourn the meeting, and remember next week we have our regular school board meeting. Thank you so much, have a great week.