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002As we prepare, as we prepare to begin our special school board meeting, we are reminded that our vision is 100% proficiency for all our students. As an a-rated school district, our vital task is to sustain this achievement. We will continue educating all students to reach their highest potential. Our theme this year is believe, empower, Achieve one Broward. The purpose of this meeting is for the School Board of Broward County, Florida to conduct official business of the district and any other items the board deems necessary. Today, the board is considering the following business. Adopting the District Educational Facilities Plan for the five years running from JULY 1st, 2025 through JUNE 30th, 2020, 2030. Doctor Hepburn, are there any changes to the agenda? No changes to the agenda, MADAM Chair. Thank you. MAY I have a motion
003and a second to close the agenda? It's been moved. So moved. It's been moved by MRS. Leonardi, seconded by MISS Thompson. All in favor of closing the agenda? Let it be known by saying I. I. All opposed. Say no. The agenda is now closed. MAY I have a motion and a second on item number one? It's been moved by MISS Thompson, seconded by MRS. Alhadeff. Good evening, and welcome to our special meeting for the Broward County Public Schools District Educational Facilities Plan for JULY 1st, 2025 through JUNE 30th, 2030. This evening is the second of two special school board meetings for the District Educational Facilities Plan. The board can take public input, have discussions and adopt this five year plan with any amendments. The first year of this plan will be incorporated in the district
004budget. That will be discussed at the budget hearing on SEPTEMBER 9th, 2025. I will now turn it over to the superintendent, who will give a brief overview of the District Educational Facilities Plan. Thank you, MADAM Chair, and good evening. I'm pleased to submit this district educational facilities plan for the school board's consideration and adoption. I want to start off by thanking the board for their input. At the last special school board meeting on JULY 22nd, when a tentative district educational facilities plan was approved. At that meeting, the board provided feedback on the recommendations. Today's presentation of the rfp reflects the board's priorities. Based on that feedback, the board is aware that the district is conducting a facilities Condition assessment that will provide additional information to help shape our our district as we redefine how our
005facilities serve our students. This plan addresses key elements needed to fill the gap until those recommendations are brought forward. At that time, this plan can be amended to include those recommendations. I would like everyone to know that the district and school leadership remain committed to providing our students with a world class education in a safe, secure learning environment. We are focused on keeping our schools secure and implementing upgrades that were previously approved by the board. Along with the funding for security cameras, public announcement systems and ongoing security upgrades, this District Educational Facilities plan continues to deliver the commitments we made for the Smart program as we move towards completion later this year. This plan also includes the leasing authority needed to purchase school busses and to replace aging vehicles in our fleet. Funding is being
006recommended for high priority needs such as facilities projects to bridge the gap by addressing critical capital facilities needs such as the replacement of buildings at Mary Bethune Elementary. Fire alarm system upgrade at Northeast High School, and roofing projects across the district. Physical plant operations will have additional funding to address beautification at our schools and address hvac issues. Environmental Health Safety will be able to improve drainage and storm water infrastructure, as well as upgrade building automation systems. Other capital initiatives include a music instrument replacement beacon, communication system, refresh it infrastructure using federal e-Rate funding, portable demolitions, replacement of old athletic scoreboards and vape detection system to enhance student security. We appreciate the board's support for these important capital funding needs. Now, the Finance Office and and their team will make a brief presentation, and the staff
007will answer any questions you MAY have. Thank you. And for the record, Omar Shim, Director of Capital Budget. Thank you, MADAM Chair. Board members and Doctor Hepburn. The special school board meeting this evening is to discuss and adopt the the dfp. And this is the second of two public meetings. We'd also like to thank the board for the input from the previous meetings. The plan that's before you today includes changes that address that input. The first year of the the five year dfp will be incoorated in theheistrictt budgetet. Thatilil be forere you forr adoptn nextxt week. The capital budget can also be amended throughout the year as needed and directed by the board. Our presentation is a brief overview of the detailed plan that's that you have before you. Once our presentation is complete, the
008board can provide additional feedback and staff is available to answer questions. On the revenue. Slide three. This slide provides an update on capital, revenue and financing sources. The major funding source is authorized by statute that provides local capital millage of 1.5 mills, which is a property tax of $150 per $100,000 of taxable home value. We received. We received multi-year tax value forecast from the state, and the property appraiser provides an estimate in JULY for the upcoming tax year, and that data is used to update our millage revenue projections, local sources that's listed there include impact fees and interest on capital funds. Financing sources include technology and vehicle leases and are tied to appropriations. We that will discuss on the next slide. State sources are mostly a pass through for charter schools, which we receive, a
009portion of which they also receive a portion of the capital millage. In addition, the district received funds, which is capital outlay and debt service funds from the state for from motor vehicle license plate revenues. Slide for the appropriations slide. Funding is included to sustain the commitments that the board has made in the previous, previously approved dfp. This includes items such as video surveillance equipment and intercoms. Athletics with new turf fields, baseball netting and athletic courts. It has funding for computer refresh, transportation funds, bus and white fleet replacement, and school furniture and custodial equipment. Replacement is funded and maintenance is funded to sustain current maintenance levels. Also included in this appropriation table is funding for additional items discussed at the last special school board meeting, which will be discussed in more detail in the next slides.
010After including these items in our appropriations. Unallocated funding over the five years is 211.4 million, and for 20 2526, the unallocated reserve is 51.8 million. On top of what was already funded in the dfp last year. It includes additional funding for the transfer to General Fund for eligible capital expenditures and new funding. Recommend recommendations with more details on the next slide. So the highlights of the new funding recommendations include facility projects with Mary Bethune replacement at 16.1 million district wide. Roofing 15 million. More costs at 25 million, and Northeast High School fire alarm upgrade at 1 million. Additional funding for physical plant operation, primarily for beautification and for hvac and other capital improvement projects, is 11.7 million. Additional environmental, health and safety projects that include building automation systems, drainage and stormwater modifications, as well as
011aed. Aed purchases is 5.8 million additional equipment purchases that include music equipment and beacon equipment. Refresh is 3.3 million. It includes e-Rate, infrastructure upgrades, and other technology initiatives at 2.5 million, demolition of portables is 2.5 million, and additional security projects that include vape detection system and other security equipment is 1.5 million. Athletic scoreboard. Replacement district wide for this year is 600,000, and the replacement of unsafe bus lift and other transportation equipment is 300,000. Details of this is also attached in the appendix. Appendix a. So on slide seven. The district is engaged in ongoing efforts to improve the way our facility serves our students and staff, and to improve the condition and appearance of those facilities. As in the redefining effort and the facility condition assessment. As we go through those processes and make decisions about
012specific needs, the district can utilize any available resources, including finance, financing, capacity to address future projects that are identified. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to present this plan and at this time, that concludes my presentation. Thank you so much. At this time, we'll have public comment. Yes, MADAM Chair, we have three registered speakers. First, we have Kimberly Bergman, followed by Linda Ferrara. Good afternoon everyone. Kimberly Bergman from Margate, Florida. Just want to question about Bethune's Playground and where does the playgrounds fall under the plan? We can address that when we we don't really go back and forth. Oh, I thought that you said that the questions were okay. Thank you. Thank you so much. Next public speaker. Good evening, Linda Ferraro. Just a couple of items came up. People were asking me why
013we're renting space for these departments at Rock Island when we knew four years ago that that was sold, and that they needed to find a new space. It's a little disconcerting to see that $2.6 million is being spent on that. When there are vacant. Vacant schools like Plantation Middle and Northfork that could probably have housed them. The other thing is the 1.7 million in the dfp for Fort Lauderdale, for Sunrise Middle School. I couldn't find that anywhere in the dfp, and I know it was approved on 819. I thought there would be an amendment to it, and the last thing was concerning how Rock Island went. What is the plan for tsc if when you do decide to sell that? Thank you. Thank you. And for the record, daughter Natalie Lynch Walsh registered. And that
014concludes our registered speakers. Okay. Thank you. Board discussion. Doctor Holmes. Thank you, MADAM Chair. So, MADAM Chair, I have a few. Motions to make and I also have a couple of these are pertaining to the entire district, and a few of them are more specific as it relates to the motion that was passed regarding the 5.9 million for Broad Estates Elementary ecosystem. So would you like me to go through each of them, MADAM Chair? Or would you like me to go through some of them and go around the board? How would you like me to proceed? Well, I have a question. Do you have them typed out? I did, but we had some recent changes. So as a result, I'm not able to distribute. Gotcha. Okay. You can read them one at a time. Okay.
015Great. Thank you. So during the meeting of JULY 22nd, it was requested that information be brought back for further discussion and potential action on playground shade structure. District wide. And regarding fabric shade structure at playgrounds. There are currently 314 playground and fitness area across 145 district facilities that lack shade structure over the equipment. Of these, 130 elementary schools account for 272 playgrounds without shade coverage, excluding 19 fitness areas. The estimated cost to install a 20 by 40ft shade structure over equipment is approximately $60,000, resulting in a total projected cost of 16,322,000. To provide coverage for all 272 playgrounds. So that's pretty much a summary as to the district's response. And thank you, Doctor Hepburn, for providing us with that information as we had directed you to. So I am, and this is district wide. So
016I move that the District Educational facilities plan includes the installation of shade structures over all 272 elementary school playgrounds currently lacking coverage. The implementation shall be phased over a 20 year period, with priority given to schools with the highest need base. The estimated total cost of this initiative is approximately 16,320,000, based on a projected cost of 60,000 per playground. It's been moved and seconded. Is there any public comment on the motion board discussion on the motion? I have a question, Doctor Hepburn. So it have you had any discussions with our partners to see if they would cover the cost of some of these shade structures? Yes, I know it's been an ongoing discussion through MR. Chisholm and the partnership group. The we've been trying to garner some support. Some of it is probably going to
017be partial and not full due to the cost. And so yeah, there is some ongoing discussions. So if we do secure any funding, it can it can be included to address some of those needs. And then whatever funding is not needing that's in the dfp can be pushed to to support something else. Okay. Thank you for that. Anybody else. Yes, MADAM Chair. So, Doctor Hepburn, you did mention as we spoke, I believe, when this direction was given regarding a 20 year period and based on the number of playgrounds across the district over 20 year period with $16 million, what are we looking at approximately per year? And how many playgrounds? I don't have that info in front of me. It could be an approximation. Yeah. If we say 20 years, $16 million, who's the math
018genius in here? Go ahead. Omar. Yes, it's approximately 800,000. Yeah, it's just over 800,000. Per year. Okay, so Doctor Hepburn would would you suggest that we do this evenly throughout, or is there sort of a phased in where you do 2 or 3 and it continues to increase over time, or how do you plan? I think correct me if I'm wrong, MR. Raczynski, that it was an attempt to do. A if you have the the data or the numbers in front of you on a certain, there was a certain number per year due to the volume. Yes, and I apologize. I don't have that in front of me. I'm going to say it was like 15 per year. If I'm. That MAY not be the right math, but we had a schedule for all 272
019broken out per year. Okay. And so approximately 15, give or take. And Doctor Hepburn, how are we prioritizing as to which constitute greater need as we, you know, go through the 20 year phase? Go ahead, MR. Raczynski. So it was based on demographics and just general locations of determining which which school has the most need. Okay, so I know the point of this is it appears that each year, you know, the weather seems to be more unbearable for our students. And I know there are probably some playgrounds that actually have some natural shade covering, whether they're trees or whatever it MAY be. Are we prioritizing based upon that factor or or just demographics? We will. We will look at that as well. We have some data from Broward County that we can compare and utilize
020to make those comparisons. Okay. So Doctor Hepburn and the rest of the board, I do believe this will be beneficial to all of our students district wide to provide the shade covers so our students can be in a safe playing environment. This happening over 20 year period, I think, you know, will continue with future board members that this effort to safeguard our kids from weather conditions and so on is very important. So I do hope that it's supported. I have one other question, Doctor Hepburn, where would this $800,000 per year come from? It will come out of dfp. I know it would come out of the reserves if if everything else is already allocated out. Yes. Okay. Do we have the capacity for that. MR. CHAIRMAN? Yes. That's we have more than that amount allocated
021per year. That's not allocated. Okay. Thank you, MRS. Alhadeff. Is it. Already in the dfp? No, it's not already in there. Okay. So it's I'm just trying to understand where then to go on MISS Hickson's point. Where where is it coming from. So if it's going to be added, are we taking something away? It will come from the capital reserves. And, MR. CHAIRMAN, if you can go over the amount in capital reserve. Yes. On slide four of your presentation, there is on the very last line. It shows unallocated funding of approximately $211 million. And then the first years are unallocated funds that are we've been carrying over. But there's additional unallocated funding in each individual year. 6,000,000 in 27, 14.5 and 28 and so on. So that's where the funding would come from. And do
022we have I remember we allocated money for playgrounds, renovations and the the shade structure wasn't incorporated in that. No it was not. Okay. I'm just wondering because 20 years is a really long time. It's an important piece to have. You know, it should really be a standard to a playground to have the shade structure, especially being here in, in Florida in this heat. So I know you're looking at the cost, but, you know, I'm thinking more to to do it in a ten year period of time than a 20 year period of time. Do you want to make a an amendment or another motion? Sure. So based on Doctor Jones's motion, I would just revise it to be done in ten years instead of 20 years. Second. Okay. Any public comment? Continuing board member comment.
023Yes, chair. I'd like to speak when it's easy. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Yeah. Go ahead. Couldn't get out fast enough. Are we talking about metal structures or are we talking about fabric structures? I believe. Fabric okay. So I would go back and take a look at what the lifespan of a fabric is, because I know for some places it's only 12 years. So 20 years you already would have a number deteriorating. So I'd go back and take an analysis of that for the number of cities that have already put up structures for like the last 20 years. Thank you. Thank you, Doctor Zima. Thank you so much, chair. I just have kind of one big question and then kind of a specific budget question for the superintendent, why wasn't this a high enough priority to
024be included in the dfp? I mean, in some sense, this is a pot of money that is used for paying off interest, for buying laptops, for buying school busses, and for, you know, both new buildings and facility maintenance. It is an account that's changed this year, as we have found some funds in the general fund that could be paid for with capital, which is great. But why is this? I mean, in general, it's hard to argue against coverings for playgrounds. And until you start to think about all of this, money comes at a cost. If we spend money on playground coverings, we're not spending that money on playgrounds. We're not spending that money on, you know, painting our schools, which is so important right now. And I'm just wondering, MR. Superintendent, why wasn't this did
025this not make your cut in terms of a priority for capital funds over the next five years? So most of our decisions have been made off of district priorities that were voiced to us, either one on ones or in board meetings. I know that we've talked about some specific schools for coverings, but also just for the board to know it's not a requirement. So as specs are being built out for new for new playgrounds, it's based on the evaluation of of that playground and the actual need. One other thing I forgot to mention, too, that we're going to have to probably come back to the board with that data. There is a cost associated with the the coverings also. So if there is a windstorm, a high wind storm, if we have to take our
026busses off the road, we have to remove the fabrics off the playground and also put them back up once the storm is, is over. So that's an additional cost to us too, that we would have to go hire vendors to do that, because we wouldn't have the capacity to go to do that district wide at 270, 70 plus playgrounds. So we'll come back with that information. Also, I think the 20 year plan initially also gives staff some time to evaluate. The speaker makes a good point about fabric versus the metal structures. We do have some schools that do have metal structures over, like their basketball courts, or even sometimes over their playgrounds, where they last longer and you don't have to remove them pre-storm and replace them post storm. So it gives some time to
027evaluate, to just to make sure we are putting up some structures that are going to be long lasting and don't bear additional cost over time. I appreciate that Doctor Hepburn for my taste. We don't know enough about this item to to to for me to support it yet. We don't know the number of schools. The other reason that I can't support this is while nobody would argue against coverings for our kids in the school year, particularly in the non-winter months, these are prime opportunities for cities to contribute. You know, we still have cities that have not contributed as much as other cities have, but they still want access to our facilities after hours. And this is, to me, kind of the perfect opportunity for cities to contribute in smaller chunks of, of funding. You know,
028they they can't afford to build a whole playground, but they or local community, even parent groups can fund coverings. And to me, when I think about all the other things, we need capital money for improving the fronts of schools, tearing down, you know, really rotten chain link fences that need to be replaced. Just painting the schools, cleaning the schools, capital funds do a lot of different things. And until I have like maybe a more specific number of schools and a specific like engineering kind of thought about what would make sense, I don't think we know enough to set aside funds. The other funds that are in this plan have been specified. You know, you can look at any one project that's there over the five years, and there has been someone from p p o
029o somemedy frommne o ooctor PaPa's's s staff tha have okok at it a and have come up w with pretty clear estimates of how much it would cost to do any of the projects over the next five years. I just don't feel like we're at that point yet, and we can add to this plan throughout the year. But for me, the the capital needs that we have in Broward County, this would not be the highest priority. To be honest. I'd rather have more playgrounds than more coverings. I'd rather have better, you know, facilities that attracted parents to come and take tours in our schools. Again, I think we have a long way to go with beautification and painting and cleaning so that people look at our schools anew and decide to come in and take
030tours. So I would just like to learn more about this before I can support it. And then we can make a decision about is it ten years? Is it 20? How do we, you know, make sure that the need is really clear. And I just don't feel like, you know, we're at that point right now. And I also think the superintendent did not prioritize this. You know, there's a lot of things in this program, a lot of things very, very detailed. And they're all a reflection of the superintendent and his staff's recommendations. You know, we could probably spend $20 billion in debt over five years. We just don't have that much. So I just don't think it's the right time to be moving forward with rough estimates of things over some time period where we
031really just don't know enough about the size of the problem yet. And and also, this just did not make the the superintendents priority list. I'd hate to kick off $1.6 million a year of other priorities that were specified by the superintendent and the staff, and that's what would have to happen under a ten year plan. Thank you, MISS Thompson. Thank you, Doctor Holness, for making this recommendation. I am supportive of it, especially because as a parent of elementary aged students, if it is too hot, they can't even go on a new playground. So why invest? I'm actually a little confused by why structures wouldn't are shade structures wouldn't be put into building a new playground because again, it gets so hot almost every single month of the school year, my kids won't be able to
032play on the playground because it's too hot. So I think at least if this doesn't pass today, moving forward, that should just be the expectation that if we are building a playground or repairing it to include the price of a structure, I think fabric structures are what most communities are actually using. They last about 15 to 30 years depending on the quality of fabric. And so I will be supportive of this. Thank you. Thank you, MISS Bowman. MRS. Bowman. Thank you chair. I also support this. I agree with MISS Thompson. The ability to be outside in the heat. It should be taking under serious consideration for the health of our children. And I was in a meeting in the last couple of weeks, and I believe it was the Broward Climate Task Force, and they
033were specifically talking about the increased heat and even the importance of having water sources outside for the kids, particularly away from the schools, because if you if there was some kind of a code or fire drill or whatever where they had to evacuate that without the water source there have, you know, negative health implications. So I think we, you know, from MISS Leonardi item that she brought a couple of months ago with the resiliency and the heat. This all ties together. And if we're going to prioritize the health of the children, I think this is really important. So I support it. Thank you. Thank you, Doctor Holmes. Thank you, MADAM Chair. So I want to also reiterate, to which I believe majority of us agree, is that student safety is our priority, right? Student safety
034is number one. Students have to be safe whether they're in the classroom or on the playground. And safety is not necessarily someone coming on campus. Safety is the environment we create for them that is safe. And so there is no price to me on on the safety of our children. And we don't have the luxury of delay when it comes to our student's well-being, you know? So while there MAY be other priorities that are mentioned, like painting a school, I think anything that leads back to compromising the safety of students we need to address as a board, because there are students who go on playgrounds with certain help, health impairment that they MAY not be able to sustain the the conditions, the environmental conditions without a covered playground. So I think that and I do
035hope the board supports this. But when it leads back to student safety, I think that's number one. We have to create a safe environment. Then we educate our students. Right. So for me, as a father who had. Two children who were in elementary, middle school and so on, I would be very concerned as a parent. And I can imagine that I raised my my thoughts resonate with all parents, you know, so we can't put a price on student safety. And I think this is a priority. And to to be fair to the superintendent, we did ask him to come back many weeks ago when this came up with some data and information, and he did. And so the item now is to determine as a board, if we want to move forward with this, to
036which I haven't heard any, any great objection from staff as well. So the question I have, MADAM Chair, is Doctor Hepburn with board member Alhadeff suggesting a ten year span. Is this doable financially? And secondly, in terms of the lifespan of these covered playground structure, will there be an ongoing replacement plan as as the lifespan is exhausted or as the for whatever reason, those overhead structures are no longer usable? I'm going to ask MISS Wodzinski to answer the first part of that question, but I yes, there there will have to be a replacement plan because those shade structures, those fabric structures are going to deteriorate over time. So we would just have to know from the the product that we use what's the actual lifespan. So we can determine what's a good replacement plan. But
037go ahead, MISS Wojcicki. Allison Wojcicki director of environmental health and Safety. So I did find my document. So we did. The 20 year plan was 15 playgrounds at various number of schools, depending on how many playgrounds are at a school for $900,000 a year. So that would basically double that. So 30 playgrounds at about 1.8 plus or minus. And that is a 20, 40, 20 by 40 shade. Every school is going to be different potentially will stay within that range. But that that would be the amount. And hopefully to help. My understanding is that the lifetime of the shade is about 8 to 10 years of the fabric. Okay, so Doctor Hepburn, i guess one of my questions was, is this doable financially based upon the budget? So based on what MR. Shim just mentioned
038is that's yes, it would come out of capital reserves and we will have to build a replacement plan also for starting probably at year 7 or 8. Okay. So so Doctor Hepburn with the replacement plan because none of us is here forever. Right? So as the person who succeeded any of us, the replacement plan obviously will fall to the person who obviously succeeded. Yeah. Got it. Okay. I have a quick. Question, chair Ft. Okay, hold on one second, MISS Rupert. You'll be next. I have a question for the superintendent. So when when you gave the the cost of the fabric shades, did you do any research on what the the metal shades would cost? No, we just go ahead. I don't know if MISS. I don't want to speak for her if she did any
039on the metal. But we've done a little bit of research on the order of 100,000 $200,000 or more, depending on how tall it has to be. Or, you know, the size that that we end up doing. So, okay. So I, I very much support the idea, but I kind of think we could use more data. And since we know we can come back to change it, what I think would be helpful is to have how much the metal would cost and then how much it cost us if we have to take it down in a windstorm, because potentially that could happen two three times a year, depending on what kind of storm year we have. So I think that information would be really helpful because it might make more sense that to have that metal
040structure that, like you mentioned, doesn't have to come down at last longer. So although it would cost us more in the beginning, would actually be more efficient in terms of of, you know, covering it because the shade ones could get holes in it, could all of those things could happen. So although I support what's what your motion is, I'd really like to have more of that information. So we make a more a better decision on whether it should be metal or should be shade, so that we look at it in a more holistic way instead of just hurrying up to to do it. So I almost want to ask to postpone the item and bring it back to us later with all that information, so we could make a better decision on that. So, Doctor.
041Holness. Okay, MADAM Chair, and. Don't forget me if we. Know you're next. If we do postpone the item, I guess my question to Doctor Hepburn is, can we get this back at the next board meeting? And can this item come back to us at the next board meeting? No, I don't think we'll be able to come back because the team will have to go out to the physical. So when do you anticipate is the earliest we can. MISS Wodzinski based on your team and the and how they assess how long would how much time would you think it would take to assess all of the playgrounds, to kind of evaluate the possibility of metal metal structures? I. I don't I'm going to put myself in a hole. I mean, I have a few weeks, but
042I it there's a lot to it. So I wouldn't want to if I say a month I, we might have it done. I just I, I haven't, I haven't thought about that. Could could it come back to us. Not in SEPTEMBER but the OCTOBER meeting. Possibly because I know there's a lot to evaluate. If you have trees that are it's all. Talking about a larger foot like footer and structure. If you're dealing with a metal structure. So, MADAM Chair, can we in some form or way tentatively set the date for OCTOBER and then the superintendent can inform us at the next board meeting in the progress of this and whether they're able to meet that timeline. Yeah, we could we could do that. Okay. So all those in favor. Of well, I think board member
043Alhadeff motion is on the floor. So there I'm thinking there has to be a motion to table this. Right. That's what that's what I was going. To ask. Okay. Got it. MISS Rupert wanted to speak. Yeah. MRS. Rupert. Thank you, MISS Alhadeff and Debbie. Thank you. What? What? I really want to just just say for district wide is that we have facilities currently. I personally have Lyons creek Middle School. The a c has been out a lot. We have kids that are inside our buildings not getting the climate and the safety that we need to do in our permanent structures. I think I absolutely 100% support of our schools having playgrounds and shade structure to keep them safe, happy, healthy and not boiling. But I also feel very strongly about the the schools that our
044students are sitting in with active mold and rain coming into roofs, roofs leaking and air conditioning and other other things like hvac that are a major, major problem. So I honestly can't get on board for the play structures today. I agree 100%, and in tabling this we can get that information, but for me it will have to be. You need to include what's going to have to go by the wayside if we do this with the money. There has to be that. And I for one, won't support outside structure over our interior of our our permanent structure school. So thank you. Thank you doctor seaman. Doctor. Seaman. MISS. Okay. MRS. Bowman. Thanks, chair. If we're bringing back additional information, I think you know the main cost in my understanding, because I've looked into this before,
045is if you have the the fabric shade is to install the post so that their hurricane. So once you've got that initial investment, I'd like to see what the the shade cost is, because that might not be nearly as significant. You know, if we had to replace shades and there's probably we could probably make a policy of when we take them off or whatever, but it might not be as expensive. Once we put the initial the. Yeah. So once we come back with that. So in in addition to figuring out if a full structure would be a better idea, I would like to see just like what the breakdown is for the cost, so that we could make an educated decision. So let me just repeat what I'm hearing. So an estimate of cost for
046shade for metal shade structure structures, for all the playgrounds that don't have current shade structures. Also in addition to that, the we have the cost for the shade structures. What would be the replacement cost after the lifetime of that particular shade? We would also include the estimated cost to take down and put back up for windstorms, and so that we can do that on a annual cost. Right, because we might just let it go if it's not that expensive to replace it. Yeah. So we'll bring that bring that information back. Got that MISS Wojcinski. Doctor Hepburn at the OCTOBER meeting. At the OCTOBER meeting. And if we don't have all of the numbers. Table it right. Yes. So I move to table this item until the OCTOBER 14th meeting. It's been moved and seconded. All
047those in favor say I. I, I. Any opposed say no motion carries. So the item is tabled until OCTOBER 14th. Okay, MADAM Chair. Postponed. Table postponed. Postponed. Doctor Holness. No problem. Okay. Thank you, MADAM Chair. So I'll move on to the second. Didn't anticipate that one would took would take so long. So the second one is that I'm sure all of us are aware. Of. You know, there is emerging concern as far as safety in middle schools and, and what students bring on campus. And I believe we've had this discussion in the past. As far as I know, we have metal detectors in our high schools, but we've had incidents to that maybe metal detectors would have captured some of these incidents that put our students safety at risk. And so. Different emerging concerns. One
048of them recently sort of alerted me and alarmed me to want to make sure that our students in the middle schools are safe as well. A lot of these situations that could cause significant safety to our students seems to occur in the middle and high school. So in light of the recent incident that occurred, and I won't necessarily elaborate on that, I moved that the implementation of metal detectors in all district middle schools be included in the deaf, with full completion by the end of 20 2627. School year and implementation begin beginning in AUGUST. I'm sorry, by the end of 20 2627 school year. It's been moved and seconded. Any public comment, board member comment, doctor Hepburn, do you know what that cost would be? We have to look back at our cost per school.
049For high school, I want to say it was about $10 million to outfit all the high schools. If I remember correctly. Go ahead. Chief. Greg, I don't know if you have the the past cost or even Ernie. So multiply that by can't remember all the specific number of middle schools would probably be about 4 to 5 times that. I know Ernie's looked like he's looking it up. I'm looking. But more important than the cost of the metal detection is the staffing required at each middle school to appropriately manage the metal detection process. So we would also have to include the cost of additional staff to fully implement the metal detection program with fidelity. Yeah, because naturally high schools have more security personnel due to the numbers of students on campus. So we have to look
050at that too, so we can bring back those numbers to properly staff it. MRS. Alhadeff. Thank you. And also, if you could compare what it would cost to put ai technology in cameras and then also to have a more elaborate random randomized metal detection in different classrooms, and then also look at providing more ammunition sniffing dogs at schools. Thank you. Okay. So I'm just trying to process it because this is the final dfp. So these were more kind of conversations from the first one. So is that an additional motion. Don't we need to because we're voting. Don't we need motions. My point was just to you know, say that there is other ways to create layers of safety protection. And if you know, we're going to put $50 million into this one layer, maybe we
051need to look at all the other different layers to see what, you know, based on our our chief, Chief Gregory Gregory, what he opines as being the best way to create a safe environment for our students and also based on the school security risk assessments. So I'm just. So does MRS. Alhadeff because we're or is she does she need to make a motion to give a direction to the superintendent? Because we're in a voting space here. And that was that was a lot. And it's separate, though, from what Doctor Holness's motion is. So I don't know what to. So the first step would be to have to have a vote on Doctor Holness's motion. And then I'm not sure if MRS. Alhadeff would like to make a motion, or she's just wanting to bring an
052item for discussion. I wasust reallyly disssing its this I is other potential oppoportunity that that we have. You know, I it's I don't know you know, this is safety and security of this becomes a closed door conversation. You know, our chief of safety and security, you know, he's going to opine on what is the best way to to move forward with the most protection for our schools and also weighing the financial risk, like, do I agree, metal, you know, should we add metal detectors to middle schools? Yes. But is that, you know, or do we have that financial capacity to do that? And or is it the best use of our money. So maybe when we finish with Doctor Holness's motion, you could do a motion to direct the superintendent to bring those things back
053in a closed door for us to have the discussion. Does that make sense? Yes. I mean, it depends what you know. Whether a closed door is necessary would depend on the. So maybe the motion doesn't have to say closed door. Just ask the superintendent. So let's let's finish with the metal detectors and then we'll come back to that Doctor Holness. Yeah. MADAM Chair, I'd like also the suggested timeline in the motion is 2627. I'd like the superintendent to weigh in on that. And if there is need to extend that timeline, I have no problem with a board member making a motion to lengthen that timeline as a result of cost, you know, but I do strongly believe that it's important that we start to ensure the safety of our kids in middle school in light
054of things that even recently happened that we all know about. And also, I agree with board member Alhadeff that there can be additional layers of security too, that we can consider in addition to the metal detectors. But the metal detectors seems to be working well in the high schools. And MADAM Chair, before we continue, Doctor Hepburn, can you tell us, based upon the implementation of metal detectors in high school, how has that proven to be beneficial to the safety of our students since we've installed them? Doctor. Thank you for the question, doctor. It's been very beneficial. Knock on wood. Haven't had any issues this year. I think we had one single issue last year that we can't pinpoint if that particular item was on campus for years due to the the condition of it. Okay.
055So due to the condition. Very successful. Absolutely. So do you think condition of that particular weapon. We don't know if it was sitting there for a couple of decades. Right. So and prior to the metal detectors, have we how do you can you provide a comparative summary as to the improvement we've seen in, in terms of weapon detection on campus? I can give you some anecdotal because I don't have the numbers in front of me, but we utilize the data to support the need to put it in in high school, because that's where our issues were, were at high schools with students bringing things they shouldn't have on campus. Okay, so here's my subsequent question. In middle schools, not having metal detectors, has there been. And you don't need to have to elaborate, but has
056there been incidents where weapons were brought on campus in middle schools this current school year? And have we seen that in the past years as well? So I would say yes, this year. One issue in the past, that data wasn't it wasn't comparative to high school. Okay. And our our middle schools, we our middle school students, our middle schools outnumber our high number of high schools significantly. And when you compare the data to high school and middle school, the incidents at the middle school level is significantly lower. Okay. Would you agree that one incident is one too much if it results in the tragic consequence of a child? I agree okay. All right. So, MADAM Chair, I. You know, I still support this item. I, I don't know what time frame and board members can
057talk about. It would be reasonable for this to be done. But I think we need to start to ensure the safety of our middle school children. And if I, Chief Gregor, you want to weigh in, if I can get Chief Gregor to weigh in real quick. Mike Gregory just wanted to elaborate a little bit more. Obviously, we MISS Alhadeff is right. We do have a multi-tiered security plan in place right now, which is a benefit. Obviously, there's a deterrent effect to having metal detectors in place that's very effective as well, but it is an expensive endeavor. And roughly we're talking about 42 different middle school schools with middle school aged students in them, and some very rough estimates that we're looking at right now would be projecting approximately 9 to $10 million investment between equipment
058and the staffing to support that equipment at those schools. Of course, we still have to do a study at each individual school to look at the flow of children going in and out, so we can see how many specific number of devices are needed at each site. But without that information, we're talking about that order of magnitude for the investment in this. MISS Thompson. Thank you. Chair. At this point, I'm not very comfortable voting yes on this. I think we need more information. I think there's also other ways that MISS Alhadeff, MISS Alhadeff referenced that we could be investing money in. And I think it's very worthwhile to come back to a workshop or a closed door to talk about it. But at this time, with the grand scope of what we need to spend
059money in and the lack of information, I'm not comfortable voting yes right now. MADAM Chair, can I revise my motion? Sure. Okay. I'd like to revise the motion to direct the superintendent to bring information back to us regarding the feasibility of having metal detectors and additional layers of security in middle schools. Second, the motion I. Mean. It was already seconded, but Mrs. Alhadeff. And can he also give us data on the sensor data for those middle schools to show us, you know, which middle schools has the highest level of sensor data and put it in order? Sure. And do you want can we add on to since it's a directive all of the pieces. MRS. Excuse me Alhadeff had asked for. So it's all one motion. Perfect. Okay. Any other discussion? All those in favor
060say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Say no. Motion carries unanimously. Okay, MADAM Chair, I don't want to be the only one talking so long. So this these are specific to broader states. So if I can come back, if we can come back to me, that would be great. Okay. MR. Severe. Thank you, MADAM Chair. Got a couple inquiries that I'd like to discuss with the with the group. First things first, in looking at the executive summary that was provided specifically on page four for the new funding recommendations, the total amount that's listed is 434,600,000. The actual appendix a that was provided in the package has a different number of 434, 521, 321, 434,000,005 21, 521,003 21, which on my math is a difference of about 78,006 79 I'm assuming, although I always hate to assume because
061we know what happens when we assume right. But I'm assuming that the executive summary number of the four, the four, 134,600,000 was sort of just a rounding up for for ease of reference. And there's not a real differential of 78,000 plus here. Doctor Hepburn. MR. Schiff. Yes, that's correct. Okay. So the appendix a asks the grand total on the appendix a is the is the exact. Number to the t that we're asking for? Correct. MR. CHAIRMAN? Yes. Sometimes for presentation purposes, when numbers are rounded, you have to adjust the numbers so that it makes sense. So yes, it's just a rounding. Understood. I just wanted to just wanted to clarify onto the second item, if I MAY. Mary Bethune is, according to the executive summary, slated to get 16. This is on page, I believe,
062the bottom of page four of the executive summary. This school is slated to get $16.1 million for a replacement building. This is also identified in the appendix as well. It's it's my understanding that Addicts Middle School is across the street from Bethune, and it's also my understanding that addicts has a capacity to hold approximately a thousand students. Addicts was on the list that we discussed for our multi-pronged reimagining of of schools, and it was discussed, I believe, at the last session or the session before. My question is why not combine Bethune and addicts? Make it a k through eight? It's my understanding. I did some research on this. I referenced Google Maps and I actually drove by to confirm they are basically next to each other and having a k through eight center housed specifically
063at that school, which can again, which can hold a thousand students I think would be a good middle ground, which will allow the school to operate at capacity. We have $16 million that we're talking about as allotment is concerned. That can potentially address the some of the concerns that Doctor Hepburn raised last time with the mandatory bathrooms and the the kindergarten classrooms. Although if memory serves correct, I, I asked for a list of some of the impediments of combining middle schools and elementary schools last time, and I don't think I ever got it. The only one that that comes to my memory right now is the bathroom thing. But if we're having $16 million, I'm sure we can build plenty of bathrooms if we combine these schools. If that happens, we then have the ability
064to have an empty Bethune building, potentially sell it, lease it, do other things that will generate substantial funds for the district. So my question is, first of all, is is that possible to to combine or is there other impediments that I'm not thinking about? And if so, what is the process that we would need to explore that idea more fully? Doctor Hepburn. Yeah, so as you know, with redefine it will be going out to the communities. And that is one of the communities we'll be having discussions with. And, you know, it's a two way conversation with the community and staff and to explore all possibilities. So recommendations will come out of that discussion. But at the end of the day, we work out the will of the board. So when we bring back our recommendations,
065if they don't align to all board members and board members can make motions for other directions that they feel we can move into for certain for certain outcomes from those community meetings. Well, I guess for purposes of today, I mean, we're talking about designated $16 million to Bethune for a replacement building on a school site that perhaps should be combined with this with the Addicks Middle School. I certainly would at least like the public to be able to consider that option. I think it's a good one, especially when you consider the close proximity. I think you can literally like throw a football between the two campuses. So I it's not like a situation where we're we're, you know, potentially going to close up shop in one building and send the kids ten miles down the
066road. I mean, they're literally neighbors. So for purposes of today's session, before committing $16 million to a replacement building at Bethune, what are the options to potentially I don't know if it's a table or asked to to to bring it back at the next workshop or meeting that we have. But I, I would like to fully explore the ability to combine these, these schools as a, as a k through eight and potentially have Bethune as an opportunity, as real property that the district could utilize to start bringing in some serious dollars, whether that's through a lease to another whatever, or we sell the property altogether, but at least we have the space for our for our kids. So I have a quick question, because if I'm not mistaken, that $16 million is part of the
067smart bond money. Is that correct? Is it part of smart bond? I'm seeing head shaking as a no. Go ahead, MR. CHAIRMAN. You want to elaborate? No. That 60 million isn't a part of the Smart program. I believe that there were there was a smaller allotment of dollars for it. And this is outside of the Smart program, but I know that it was being discussed in the Smart program. These dollars are not bond dollars. But it it it's an extension of a bond project. Yes. It's what came out of discussions about the Smart program. Okay. So thank you for that. And so I would have a concern because we made a commitment to the community. I would not want to right now take that commitment away until we have a discussion with the community and
068decide whether we're going to put addicts in Bethune together. We can bring the dfp back. And if that's something that the community decides on, we could put that money somewhere else. But I would not be in support of taking that money and not committing it, since it isn't a new commitment. It's actually been on the dfp for probably the last four years. So I, I don't think that that's fair to that community to make a decision here today based on information we're not sure about, when it's been sitting on the dfp for all this time, MRS. Bowman. Thank you. Chair. I do not support that. Just for the record, if you went in and looked at the building that's being replaced, it's absolutely awful that we've let a facility get to this condition and people
069are working in there. And if you go around to other parts of the county, people are not working in similar conditions. So I appreciate the historic input there that it's been on the dfp for years. This building needs to be replaced. We made a commitment to the community and there you have to understand that there's a lot of dynamics going on, and, you know, our communities differ from place to place and going in to make this solution is not, I do not think, going to be accepted as a ready answer to some of these problems, particularly in my community between addicts and Bethune, which have a lot of history in Broward County. That goes back to basically the beginning of Broward County. So I'm appreciative that we are finally putting this on the dfp. I
070actually my question was to MISS Burke Mulhern's comments at the beginning of the meeting was about the playgrounds, because it was brought to my attention that they were on the original plans from, I think, 2023, and now they're not. Have to stay focused. Yes. This motion, he's he's just having a discussion about making them a k-8. So when we get to yours. Yeah, we're still on MR. Severo's suggestion. Okay. And I don't think it was a motion. He just said he wanted to discuss it. It was a discussion. And I guess the concern was and I appreciate the the historical reference, the fact that maybe this has been on several deaf maybe that preceded me. I just, you know, whenever you talk about proximity for schools and potentially combining them, I think all options have
071to be on the table. Right. And if we're voting or today or we're committing today, $16 million for a building replacement, it's to me, it's almost as if, you know, you're just killing the idea of potential, potentially combining the attics and the Thane campuses into a k through eight without having the necessary community input or having the ability to to flesh that out any further. I certainly can appreciate the fact that, you know, this is this $16 million has been has been promised, has been talked about for however long it's been. But, you know, I think we're at a crossroad now where everybody on this board realizes that some, some changes are going to have to be made in some of these schools. And if we have a good opportunity here for potentially combining them
072and taking the 16 million and using it to expand attics or renovate attics, I think that would be a a potentially a viable option for, you know, our constituents and everybody in, in the district. It wouldn't appear that my suggestion has much support after hearing from from some of my colleagues. But let me ask it this way, chair, is is there a way that we can maybe sort of do both, like move forward with this today tentatively, but still leave the opportunity to have that community engagement to discuss about the potential combination of both schools and if a consensus is ultimately made. And we see that, like a lot of people are supporting this, maybe redirect those funds. If if we decide to combine the schools and redirect those funds to attics. I will say
073absolutely. That's why you can always bring a b item or whatever item back to if that is what comes out of the community conversation, to be able to move those funds to somewhere else. But I wouldn't like I said, I wouldn't support taking those funds away now until we know what that bigger picture looks like. Doctor Holmes. Thank you, MADAM Chair. So I wouldn't support that suggestion either. Doctor Hepburn, can you reiterate when we started the phase one of redefining that, there were many factors to which we consider redefining and historical significance is one of them. When you look at adducts and Bethune-Cookman, can you provide us with a summary as to what the historical significance of those those two schools are? Yes. I'll ask our resident historian, Doctor Wanza, back there to to provide
074some information on that. Great question. Doctor Holderness. Good evening. Valerie Wanza, Chief Strategy and Innovation Officer Thank you, Doctor Hepburn. Doctor DR. Holness, specifically to your question. So as a part of last year's process and actually the pre the year prior in 2324, we published a document or some documents relating to schools with historical context. Right. And so these are schools that pre integration were schools that were known in this community as historically black schools. They've gone through several iterations of some type of repurposing. And I will tell you attics specifically was one of the district's three historically black high schools. And it is the only one of the three that was closed and never reestablished as a high school. We know that Dillard High School never closed because they were able to have a
075court injunction that prevented them from closing. When the district started to implement its desegregation strategies. Attics was the first high school to close in 1968, and it was converted to a middle school, and then Blanche Ely High School was closed in 1970, but eventually it reopened in 1975, but Attics High School neveve reestablished itselff as aa high schchool. It hasas been a middle s school sinince 1968 and w have gone through, I will say, at no less than ten different times in a points in time where the exact idea of combining Bethune Elementary School and Attics High School into a k-8 school that has gone out to the community several times, and it has come back each time with the community, with the community. And I'm going to use the word vehemently opposed to combining
076those two schools into one because of their historical context and their historical standing in the school district. So I hope that answers the question. Thank you so much, MADAM Chair. I'm still okay. So, Doctor Hepburn, and thank you, Doctor Watson. I believe you were at one point a principal at Atasoy. So no, I wasn't a principal at attics, but both of my parents graduated from. I know there was some connection. All right. Thank you for that. So, Doctor Hepburn, in terms of the historic significance of Bethune. Cookman can is doctor Ones able to elaborate on that as well? Go ahead, doctor Wanza. So so when and I'm going to go back to the I'll start probably as early as the 40s, but definitely the 50s. That entire complex was a k-12 school. So Bethune was
077the elementary part, and Addicks was the part that served the middle school and high school students, very similar to how Dillard High School is situated right now with Dillard Elementary School, that entire large complex. So Bethune has been an elementary school, as we know, in the district, since the 40s, 50s. It is currently the Southern Performing Arts School because we have three countywide performing arts schools at the elementary level North Andrews Gardens in the north, Walker in the central, and Bethune in the south. We do know that we did expand some programing as a part of the k-8 to Hollywood Central k-8, but Bethune, Walker and North Andrews Gardens are the primary performing arts feeders, if you will, that feed into Parkway Middle School that then feeds into Dillard High School's performing arts magnet. But
078that school, Bethune, to answer your question, has been I'll have to go check the boundary book. It MAY be the late 40s, but definitely the early 50s. And the entire complex at one time was a full k-12 school until the district started the integration efforts and the high school portion, the high school grades were moved out and it was just elementary students at Bethune and then middle school students at Addicks. Okay, so Doctor Hepburn with that information and considering that we've tried that multiple times with significant opposition from the community, considering the history of these two schools and the importance to the black community as well, if the board should proceed in this manner. Would you agree that you would anticipate the same level of resistance, if not the perception of the board as being
079insensitive to the community in addition to other things? Would you would you agree that that could be a strong possibility? It could be a strong possibility if history repeats itself. I think that's why it's important that we continue with the cadence of going out to the communities, not just that community, but all the communities that we've slated to go out and have those conversations so we can get the right type of feedback and empowering, empowering them to help with this decision making. Okay, so so I'm going to finalize my comment. Board member Hicks I mean, Chair Hixson. So I think as a board, you know, it's very important that we are being cautious in how we proceed with redefining, considering community input and being sensitive to the historical context of the schools. As a board
080member, it is our we will be responsible in taking those factors into consideration. And whenever we have suggestions, it's important that we actually have significant research on specific schools to understand their their history and their significance to the community. And also, we have to continue to get community input when we move ahead to show our sensitivity to their needs. Thank you, MRS. Leonardi. I think my point was made already about, you know, when we have money allocated to a school and then we choose repurpose, we can always allocate it to that universe. Thank you. MR. Thank you. First of all, thanks to to Doctor Wanza for the for the information and the historical points. I think I heard multiple times that this has already been proposed and the community has not reacted in a in
081a positive manner. So for me, I that's why we have these conversations, right. If, if this this is something that the community is I think she said it was vehemently rejected. If I heard correctly. That's sort of the information that that I certainly would like to know about. Be that as it MAY, chair, if I MAY, I had three items. This was just the second one. If I can move on to the to the third one. But I appreciate all the information and Doctor Wanza I think she did all that for memory. I didn't see you look down at once, so kudos to you. Thank you. Resident historian. On my my third item, MADAM Chair, looking at appendix a on the first page, the line item in columns for Security and safety, it appears that
082we're allotting roughly $17 million over the next five years. MADAM Chair, does this include our salaries for our SROs? Doctor Hepburn? No, no, it does not. Do we have apportionment of of what? That amount is approximately for the next. Doctor Hepburn. For salaries for SROs. Five years. Yeah. I don't have that data in front of me, but that actually comes out of our general budget. And we're actually in negotiations now for our next iteration of our contract. But I can provide that in the follow up. Fantastic. And my last question on the safety and security issue, our new badges Tj6 badges. It's my understanding when I was I was doing some research on this, is that the the state had given us a grant of $5 million for approximately three years would end, which ends
083in 2028. Is is that accurate? Yes. Is that accurate? Go ahead, MR. Lozano. Doctor Lozano. No. We every district receives a portion of the state allocation for Alyssa's alert. It's nowhere near the 5 million. Do do we know how much bcc is getting? We're probably paying roughly about 4.5 million of that 5.1 over the three years. Okay. Now now now I'm confused. My understanding is that we got there was a grant from the state that assisted with the funding over this, over, over, over a three year period. Did we get did we get an apportionment of money that we are using towards our yearly allocation? Correct. So that would be about 500,000 a year. Okay. So we get we receive $500,000 a year towards the the ultimate. Prize whatever. So there's like nine vendors every
084district can choose from okay. And they get that portion 500 is probably a little generous to be honest. It's probably more like 350 400,000. I remember because it paid for our safer watch. So we get that portion from the state and it changes yearly through each year's budget. But we do get allocate money from the state. And we picked up the majority of that cost. Let me let me see if I can cut to the chase here, because my my concern is and I want to make, make sure that in our, in our five year allotment here for security and safety, if we lose that grant or if that grant expires naturally at the end of three years, I want to make sure that obviously we still have the funds necessary to make sure that
085we're not going to MISS A beat with our with our alert badges. Go ahead. We would be able to successfully cover that. Okay. And just and have the state allocation. And just just so I'm clear because I, I apologize. Maybe I read something wrong. I thought I thought I thought bcc was getting 5 million. I didn't realize it was spread out more vastly than that. So our our apportionment or our allotment of that is, is approximately $500,000 a year for bcc to cover the yearly costs. Correct? Okay. Thank you. Thank you, MISS Thompson. Thank you. Chair. The majority of my questions were answered at our first hearing. I just wanted to follow up. I had made a comment about the kc right flooring and how I thought that was more important to make sure that
086our our school campuses were being replaced with flooring and I believe the hardwood or not hardwood, the tile was taken off, but there's still replacing like carpeting here and I Panther runs carpet is like covered in mold. There's been health issues. It's not even on the list. So it bothers me that we're allocating so much to kc right. When we have a school with actual health issues that I've, I've talked to staff about. So I think they're looking into. But I would like to see the at least the portion of the funding going to replace our school flooring, but I don't know how to make that motion. Doctor Hepburn. I don't know if MISS Paul or MR. Shimoda provide any additional information to help with the create a motion. That is something we can look
087into. As stated previously, we have a lot of needs throughout the district carpeting, flooring, just the list goes on. The carpet that we replaced in many cases in kcw trip hazards rips. And that's significant. But it's also apparent that there are issues in the campuses that we are addressing. The dfp has been a great tool in doing that. We can definitely assess the carpet, and at Path Run, Panther Run. But also, as you know, we have the fca that's wrapping up and that will identify, you know, just all the needs across the district to include flooring. So we will definitely take a look at Panther Run. And I fully recognize that we have the fca and that there's a lot of issues throughout the district. I would just like to. I guess the motion would
088be to push that funding off until to not start this year at least, so that there is money to be redirected to school campuses, flooring. With that make sense? So delay. So there's 333,000 allocated for. kc. Right. For kc right 20, 2526. So I'm not even saying take away all the money. I'm just saying there are school buildings where our teachers and staff members are suffering. And I think that needs to be prioritized. So you're saying delay just. Yeah. So keep that pocket of the 333,000, you could push it back. But at least then there's money this year to look at the schools that actually need to be addressed sooner. Second. Is there any public comment? I have a question again, similar to my other question. So is there a way to because it sounds
089like some of what's happening here is that, like she said, trip hazards and rips in it, and this is the building that represents the school district. We don't want people coming in and tripping over things. Is there a way to do both? Like does it have to be Casey, right? Or the schools? Or do we not have enough funding to maybe, maybe the motion would be to add an allocation for funding for schools with whatever amount you think would be maybe comparable to what we have, so that it's not either or. It could be both. So I hear what you're saying, but it's still both this way. It's just not doing it this year. Like it's prioritizing our school campuses. Doctor doctor Hepburn. Miss Paul. Go ahead, MISS Paul. So I think the 333,000 is
090reserved for kcw is for those issues where we have in this 14 floor building, we have trip hazards, rips and so forth. And so I mean, we could not do it if that's the will of the board. But again, you know, as we have these issues, we try to address them, address them based on safety. And so worn and carpet is a is a concern. But more importantly, if it's ripped and it has the possibility of people getting hurt, then we're required to address it. Some carpet here, we have tape over it and those kind of things. So you know, we we serve at the will of the board. What is there if if there was a motion made to put, let's say, the same amount of money for schools as there is for kcw,
091would there be priority one or the other they could work in tandem with? You could be working on the schools at the same time that you're working on kcw. Go ahead MISS, I was going to say something, but go ahead. I think we're so we are continuously working on those issues and replacing carpet and and replacing broken tiles and vct and schools. So that's part of our preventive maintenance program in general. So we are doing those things. So. Even though it MAY appear that we're reserving money for kcw, we're still doing the major work out there in our schools every day. Thank you, MRS. Leonardi. Yeah, I guess a few different questions. So, well, in one point, if we delay or postpone the $300,000 for kcw, that doesn't that's not creating another pot of money
092for our schools. That's simply delaying the the dollars for kcw. Correct? That's correct. So I don't know. Well, let me back up. So MISS Paul just said that the like replacement of carpet and things like that at our schools is a part of routine maintenance. Did I hear that correctly, yes. And you know, the only limits we have basically is funding the ability to fund all the projects that we need to do across the district. So that's part of our program. Okay. What is staff or was staff aware of my colleagues concern about Panther Run. I'm not personally aware of it, but we can look and see if there's a work order in the system. If the school did provide that information, then I'm sure we have it in our system. I would have to
093look at that, okay. And then help me understand. So say someone puts a work order in to have carpet replaced because it is a health hazard. What is the timeline look like to get that replaced? Is there a scenario in which it doesn't get replaced because there is no funding in the dep for that? If it is a safety related issue, that definitely will jump to the the top of the list for replacement. And we've had those situations, obviously in a system this big. So if it's wear and tear then obviously it would go a little bit further down the list. But one of the things that we want to make sure we we do have is visibility of it. Got it. Thank you. And I agree with my colleagues concerns about like making improvements
094to kcw instead of our schools. As someone who worked in our schools, that it's it was eye opening to come into this building. I don't know if she wants if you want to make an amendment to your motion to because right now it's not really the motion as it stands doesn't create new funding for our schools. It's just postponing the funding for a kcw. So that would be my recommendation. Thanks. Okay, MISS Thompson. I do, but I am struggling. I do. One staff was notified back in the summer that there was mold issues. I have the email records of it. I also have teachers reaching out saying that they're been prescribed medication now because their asthma flare ups and etc. And I see that there's an item for flooring that's various schools. District wide floor
095replacement is that can you expand on what that means? Because I think I have a way to do this. Doctor Pepper. MR. Or MISS Paul. So that reads exactly what it is to to replace as required flooring, carpeting, you know, hard surfaces, those kind of things. But is that based on because I think I need a little more. Is that based on like need. Is that like those emergency situations is like, what is that. So first of first is emergency related situations. And so it's a priority, you know, if it's a safety related issue that would jump to the top of the list. If it's a routine maintenance or if it's not the whole school, if it's a certain area of the school, then we have more affinity of of being able to do that.
096But if it's a school wide replacement of carpet, then that's additional funding that we just don't have. We basically do emergency maintenance with the funds that we have. Okay. Then I believe I would like to make a motion to take the 20 2526 funding from kcw carpet replacement and move it into the flooring for various schools, district wide floor replacement. And I would really like staff to look at Panther Run because it doesn't seem like that's happening yet. Second. Public comment any other board member comment? I'll just jump in before we vote. I understand what you're saying, but there are safety hazards with carpet and kcw, so I don't think it I don't want to take all the money away from what's happening here because it's a safety hazard here. So I'll just leave it
097at that, doctor. Thank you, MADAM Chair. So if you don't mind, MADAM Chair, I am trying to get some clarification. So, regarding Board Member Thompson's motion, if, in fact, that this board can vote to support looking at Panther Run specifically because you've observed that there are possibly hazardous situation with their flooring. And in addition to that, vote on keeping the funding for the condition of the flooring for Casey, would that would that sort of meet what you're looking to do, or are you looking to go beyond Panther Run? And if so, are there otherer schools thth t tttreret t the refront t of your mindi'I'm just trying to get somcocontext. So I think I would like to go beyond just Panther Run. I would just like to also point out there's already $1 million allocated
098to Casey, right? Replacing flooring throughout the building. It just wouldn't be done. This 2526 year. I think probably all of us could name schools that might not be on the rfp or or aren't getting repaired until five years from now. That probably should. And I believe just funding that line item. If it's like MISS Paul explained, that it's for emergencies or health and safety. Then I would like to do that. And again, they would still have Casey, right? Would still have the allocation of $666,666. It just wouldn't be repairs done this year. And I believe we've already done a lot of carpeting in kcw, at least on the 14th floor. On the second floor. Okay, so, MADAM Chair, so the the motion is inclusive of schools based on priority with Panther Run being one of
099those schools. Is that what the motion is? Okay. And Doctor Hepburn with this motion. Do you interpret this motion as simply delaying the work for kcw this year? And Doctor Hepburn. That's for my understanding. That's what I'm hearing. Let's let's MISS Thompson is saying otherwise delay Casey. Right. Sorry. Move the money that is allocated for this year to Casey. Right to that line item. Which, just to clarify to my understanding, is to address carpeting and flooring issues based on safety, health. Period across the district. Period across the. Regardless if it's school or district facility or admin facility. a school like schools where our children learn those buildings with a a push to please evaluate Panther run. Okay okay. And this would be $300,000. Is that what. What it is. Go ahead. MR. Shim. I saw
100his hand up. Want to make sure we don't MISS Anything? Yeah, I just wanted to support what Missus Paul was saying with regard to the funding. You know, these these schools that are listed here is on top of what's being proposed for maintenance. Maintenance is funded over, you know, almost $100 million to do. Well, most of it's emergency maintenance work. And so this is on top of that. So things that what you're saying that would go to routine maintenance is already funded in the plan under those funding. So, MADAM Chair with MR. Shim's information, I'm assuming that board Member Thompson's motion could be fulfilled through funding from maintenance. So if the motion is rephrased to allocate that amount, funding from maintenance equivalent to what's being done to kcw, would that be doable and would, based
101on MR. Shim's information? That's my understanding that we could actually get it done through the maintenance funds. And still continue with the kcw allocation. Am I missing something? I, I don't know that it needs to be moved from the maintenance fund. I think what they're saying is it's already covered under the it's already happening. Okay. So staff. Is. Saying I hear you, but I don't think board member Thompson is is confident that that that will move ahead. So can there be a directive given to the superintendent that maintenance funds is used in similar quantity or amount as being used at kcw to prioritize schools such as Panther Run? Would MISS Thompson. Sorry, what maintenance line item are you looking at? Because what I'm looking at when I reference an ask MISS Paul was there was
102no money allocated in 20 2526 and that was the now I scrolled that was the flooring district wide. Line item. Hold on. And thanks bud. So is there a but also this isn't maintenance. This is this is a replacement situation. But I don't want to just advocate for our school for one school. Correct. So I'm I guess I don't understand what MR. Shem is referencing. Doctor Hepburn. MR. CHAIRMAN. Yes. On page 266, it lists all the maintenance funding include that that includes the. Funding that's outlined in the additional funds that we that were in the appendix. So you see included in the transfer, there's approximately $115 million for maintenance routine or, you know, the maintenance that's there for work orders as well as those items listed in the appendix a. So then for clarification, you're
103saying that there's already money set aside to do these emergency floor repairs. Yes. Now that funding hasn't been able to be stretched to do replacements or or routine type plan replacements. So that's why additional funding was added based on the additional needs to replace, you know, things that are at the end of their life or needed to be addressed beyond that, that funding that's available. If I MAY. Please let me try to simplify it. So we have money for emergency repairs, right? In our budget and our overall budget for maintenance. We have money for emergency repairs, like your hvac system breaks down at a school and we have to repair it. So we have money for that. So then there's another. I think what you're talking about is, if I MAY use your words, the
104carpet. The carpet is old and it looks bad now. It's causing health like there's. Mold or or. Well, I have to ask Allison on the, on the mold part. She'll send her people there to do an evaluation. Iq indoor air quality evaluation. But if the carpet just looks bad, then the carpet that is a safety hazard is going to take precedence over the carpet that looks bad. And then with the money that we have allocated for floors and covering floor coverings and so forth, if we have the opportunity, then we will go in there and say it's the main office and it's not so much a safety hazard where you trip, but it just looks bad. Then if we have additional funding, we will go in there and replace that and we have done that.
105So what I had said to you is from a maintenance perspective, let me look and see what Panther Run put in the system for carpet. And we see if it's a specific area we're talking about, then yeah, we MAY we can go in there and accommodate that. But if we're talking bond type total replacement then no, we cannot do that. So we would go to the worst area and try to take care of that. But in terms of doing a whole school and replacing all the carpet and all the flooring, we don't have that capability with the dollars we have. I have I have a suggestion or a thought. So instead of taking it from kcw, you're really looking to make sure, because we already said it's just going to put it back a year.
106It's still going to happen. Why not make a motion that says, increase the funding for the flooring by $500,000 for for next year, so that it still accomplishes what you're doing. But it doesn't doesn't take away from also what needs to happen here at kcw. So it's just that's where my thoughts are going because you're just moving money around. Really. So why not just say you would want more and make it 500,000? I want to steal that motion. Do I have to formally repeat that motion? She's your she's still she's amending. I'm amending my motion to instead take from. To increase the funding. Increase the funding. 500,000 a 500,002nd team. Work school year. Okay. Any public comment? School board comment. All those in favor of the motion say I. I. Any opposed? Say no. Motion
107carries. Thanks, guys. So that's otherwise I think this is we're doing a really good job. I understand that there's a lot of priorities and a lot of fixing of things. I just would also stress trying to figure out how to paint quicker. But I know MISS Paul is already working on that. But thank you so much. Thank you. I'm just going to go in order. So next I have three quick questions. Doctor Hepburn is is there funds in in this dfp for master planner for once the fac comes. How are we. Where is this it come out of general funds. Is it come out of the dfp. MR. Or MISS Paul? I believe that was part of the funding that was provided for facilities. Is it the. I don't see it as a line item.
108So is it embedded in something else? Yes, I believe it's a part of the funding that was provided for the program management and all the other services that's involved. Okay, so you said you believe I just wanted to be very solid. So is there is funding in this dfp for a master plan or once we get our fac in and I'm sorry, I always get my letters mixed up moving forward. Sorry I believe just doesn't make it solid. So I have been told that there is funding and I'm acting as if there is funding there. So I think he's just looking for the line item is located. But yes. And if if you need to get back to us on a follow up for that, as long as you're solidly saying we have the funding,
109you can tell us where I can find it. On a follow up. Yes, I'll get back with you on a follow up on that one. Okay. Perfect. Second question. We voted for a $1.7 million to go to the sports academy, but I don't see that which was also mentioned by the public speaker. So where would we find that in the dfp or does it need to be amended? Do we need a motion to add that into there today? Well, the the board already voted to include that funding. That happened after we provided copies to the board of this dfp. So it's already it will be in the next amendment to the dfp. And when will we get that? When when we do our First Amendment for the budget, typically either OCTOBER or NOVEMBER. Okay. So
110we're voting on it today. Another dfp will come forward for us to vote. On this amendment to the budget amendment. But the board has already approved the funding in the item. I know that, but I, I would have liked to have seen it in here so that we can be transparent to the public that we did vote on it. And it's it's in our dfp plan so that we know. And where is the money coming from? How long does it take? You know, is it a five year plan? Do they get it all in one year? Like I think those things are important to also know, and we MAY not know all the information until we go to the school and see what it is we're having to fund. So I get that part, but
111I think the public would really be interested to know, is that money coming all in one chunk? Is it spread out across a couple? So again, that could be a follow up. But I think people were looking for it as an amendment in the dfp. And my last question was also brought up by the Speaker Bethune, on the amendment. He I mean, in the appendix has a k through five playground, but they do not have a k through one. So I'm just wondering why the k one playground isn't included in this dfp Doctor Hepburn. Staff. Go ahead, MISS Wyczenski. I'm sorry I don't have it up right now, but that my understanding was that the one that was missing was the one that was listed in the new playgrounds, and it's scheduled for 2728. So
112the only one listed on here is a two through five. It's also missing ak1 playground. It only has a preschool playground. So we will we will look at that. As far as the equipment and the students that can use that and maybe adjust the signage and add equipment as necessary. Okay. Thank you very much, MRS. Leonardi. Thank you on the list too. Yep. I'm just going around the circle here. It would there. Would staff advise against amending the dfp tonight to include that $1.7 million in in sunrise for Sunrise Middle school. Doctor Hepburn. MR. Chair. I have no objections. Okay, so I'd like to make a motion to add to Sunrise Middle School fiscal year. I believe it would be fiscal year 26, $1.7 million. Second. Do I need to identify the scope for that
113or is that clear in the item? MR. Shim, you need to provide any additional identification for for scope. No, I believe the item was clear. Okay. It's been moved and seconded. Any public comment, any board member comment? I would just say I think we'd also like a follow up moving forward, how that money would be spent. I know that won't be necessarily right away. But that was clear at the last meeting. MISS Paul and her team are communicating with City and School. The create the scope for the work, and we'll we'll continue to update the board as we go through that process. All right. Great. All those in favor of the motion say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Say no. I'm sorry, MADAM Chair, I, I need clarification before I vote on this motion. Was was
114board member Leonardi asking was given a directive that we incorporate the 1.7 that we that the board I did not vote in favor, but the board voted in favor at the last meeting for the sports academy. We're now moving that within the current version of the rfp. I need I need clarification on the motion. So my my motion was to update the dfp to accurately reflect how we're spending our capital funds for fiscal year 26. So staff said that it would be coming to us at at the next board. Well, I think it was the next board meeting amended. I just wanted to amend it now rather than later. Was the amendment specific for this 1.7, or it was a general amendment to include anything that MAY have been missed since the last meeting, just
115for the 1.7. Yes, okay, I apologize. Thank you for the clarification. Okay. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Say no. No. Motion carries 8 to 1. And then I had a question. So I saw and I sent this ahead of time, but maybe not in the most timely manner. So I think staff has a heads up on this for Fort Lauderdale High School. There are some money allocated to for the exterior exterior stairwell enclosure for building 21. I know there are several other schools in the district that have the same concerns of exterior stairwells that are not enclosed. I'm wondering if there is a plan to include that or to fund those projects for those other schools. I guess I'm wondering what the status is for those additional schools. Doctor Hepner. MISS
116Paul. I would have to provide you with a follow up on that because I thought we answered it at some point about the stairwells. We have many buildings that are built that way. And so if you would give me the opportunity to go back and look and see what we sent you previously and where we are now, I will provide that to you. Thank you. And I think previously I had focused primarily on Fort Lauderdale High School. So I just so I'm we're clear about the follow up. I would like to know the other schools that have these exposed exterior stairwells and what the plan is for those enclosures as well. I recall you expanding that or. You have better memory than I do then. So. So yes, I remember the conversation and I think
117I just need to go back and see what we came up with. But we did look at it, and I actually went out and visited a couple of schools. So let me provide that follow up to you. Okay. And I would just say that if in this. This journey for more information and figuring out what was communicated before and after. i feel very strongly that we would then need to amend the dep or the budget to include funding for for enclosing those exterior stairwells. Given the history there. And I just also wanted to thank staff over this, this process, over the last few months, I was able to flag a variety of facilities issues, and principals have been reaching out. Very grateful for the work that's been done over the summer. So thank you guys
118for for helping and working hard to improve our school facilities and making them, you know, great places for kids to go to school. Thank you. Thank you, MRS. Bowman. Thanks, chair. I'll reiterate that I think you guys have done a great job on that. It's been good to learn and understand the process and all of the intricacy that goes into putting this together, so I really appreciate it. I'd like to reiterate that I appreciate the Bethune funding. So thank you for finally putting that in there. And then I guess the chair asked my question about the playground. And otherwise I don't really have any additional comments right now, so thanks. Thank you, MRS. Alhadeff. Yes, my a couple questions. One is the money for the AEDs. Is that additional aid or is it the first
119time the school is getting an aed? Doctor Hepburn. MISS Wojcicki. Allison Wojcicki director of environmental health and Safety every school has at least one aed. These are replacements based on age and warranty. Additional AEDs for band and rotc, and additional AEDs for to make sure that we are within 3 to 4 minutes of being able to get to an aed. Okay, and then when we deliver those AEDs, they'll be updated in the mapping system as assets. Yes they will. Thank you for that. And then the vape detection is that being rolled out to just high schools or is that middle schools and high schools? Chief Gregory. t t vape detetectioprograms are e slat for the m middle schools as wewell as e k through eight. I believe. It's not at the high school level. The
120vape detection. No, not for this year, not the program that we have right now. It's for middle schools. Okay. So only in middle schools. And why are we not doing it in high schools to. Well, allocate the funding over multiple years. And then I guess the priority was that some of the research was indicating the younger students were starting to vape earlier than the time they got to high school. So trying to intercede with an intervention at the middle school year or grade level was most appropriate because they're starting in middle school, and then by the time they get to high school, they've they've been doing it already. But we want to address both ends of it eventually. All right. So I have a problem with this. I think it should be at the middle
121school and the high school level. We got funding from a a lawsuit with Juul to, to fund this. So the money is there. And and so I don't understand why this is not being done at the high school level too. So I'm going to make a motion to allocate funding for the middle school and the high school second. For vape detection. Any public comment on the motion? Board member discussion. MADAM Chair. Doctor. Okay, so, Doctor Hepburn, is there a reason, as brought forth by board member Alhadeff, that this was not included in middle and high schools? Yeah, we supported it based on research and data. Middle school students are, you know, high school students vape also. But the middle school students vape even more. And at that early age, they have the tendency to, you
122know, addicted to it and carry that behavior on beyond middle school. So in most, most districts that I know of that I've talked to about this issue, they've also started in middle school too, because that was that's where the prevalence of vaping has started and carries on. It. Was that the only reason why we did not consider high school as well as middle school? Yes. We supported the rollout based on data and eventually getting to the high school. Okay. Do we have funding available for middle and high schools? That is funding adequate? That that is a good question. i don't have the numbers because our our middle schools do outnumber our high schools. So I don't know the exact numbers and dollar amounts. Okay. So Doctor Hepburn, I, I think that's an important piece of
123information. Right. Because in terms of if funding was one of the factors, then we could understand, right? So, you know, I think that information would be important to make a decision. Yeah. I don't I don't know if you have that. The numbers on your Chief Gregory or your team member. MRS. Alhadeff. I think MRS. Batista could opine about it because we got the money from the lawsuit. I believe it wasn't like 2.3 million. Yeah. Yeah, we have the money. Yes. Batista. So I'm not sure what you would like me to opine about. But how much money was the Broward schools received from the lawsuit from Jewel to allocate vape detections in our schools? And does that? Then my next question will be to the superintendent. Does that cover middle schools and high schools? Right. So
124it wasn't so it wasn't specifically earmarked for vape detection. It was anything that would prevent vaping. It could be, you know, for mental health, anything related to, you know, that that type of it was a general settlement that wasn't earmarked specifically for these types of devices, but that device is the devices are also included, if that's what the board chooses to spend the money on. And it was over three years, it was like $12 million. Oh, okay. So I was way off 12 million. I think Chief Gregory has some numbers for us. So in conferring with MR. Shim, he's identified that the funding is broken out over two different years. So the project begins in middle school, the this year and the next year, there's additional dollars available to start the high school project. Roughly
1252.7 million is allocated between two separate years. Doctor Hepburn, MADAM Chair, I still have to. Okay, so I'm hearing conflicting numbers, right. Because we hear of $12 million and we hear that we're going to spend some money this year and and some next year and sort of move it into high, you know, why are we doing this? If we have the money, why don't we just simply put it in the middle and high schools, the money is here. That's why we we we we have that money from the lawsuit. Right. So why are we breaking this up? And and secondly, you know, MISS Batista mentioned that the money is being considered for not just the vaping detection. And she mentioned mental health. We we have allocations of funds for mental health already, don't we. Correct.
126And and so the I know that payout predates me. So we have to do some research because I'm not aware of $12 million. I'm aware of probably like 4 or 5 or $6 million. Okay. So I'll just be direct then the money that's spent on vaping detectors for middle schools, did we exhaust all the funds? If we're just dealing with vaping detectors? No. So as Chief Gregory mentioned, the project is starting to install them in middle schools first and then high school second. Okay. So if I'm hearing board member Alhadeff correctly, and I think we could see what the rest of the board thinks. But in my opinion, getting these vaping detectors, if the money is there in middle and high schools is what we should be concentrating on. The other things that are after
127effects of vaping can be addressed through mental health allocations and all these other things. But if the money is there, let's put it in all of them. Well, I think the question for us as staff is not about the amount of money, it's capability. So do we have the capability to install in all middle and high school in one year? I know when we looked at it last year to one of the pieces we had to consider was the wiring component and connecting the devices to our servers. So we the number of schools we'd be able to do at one time was limited. When we looked at that with it last year as well. So that's why we felt going into this year we could handle the scope of middle schools and then look at
128the high schools in year two. Okay, so Doctor Hepburn, if if money is not the issue, but implementation or installation of these devices is impacting the time, then couldn't this board make a motion today that all of those fundings are used to install vape detectors in all middle and high schools? And then you come back to us with a time frame as to when the earliest time that this could be done in an expedited fashion. Yeah. So I think I think right. I think we are already on that plan. I think what we need to come back to the board to let you know what is our current capabilities of executing as many vape detectors in year one, if we can actually include the high schools in year one based on the capability, because we're
129already spending the money on middle and high school, we're just saying that, hey, we're going to implement it based on our current capabilities in middle school year one and in high schools year two. I think what we can bring back to the board is going back to the drawing board to say, hey, can we do middle and high school? Or how many high schools can we do in year one? So we can bring that back because we are spending the money on middle. And so I have a question and I'm sorry, MADAM Chair, if we can't do this within a year for all of the schools, then we could prioritize based upon data analysis as to the problematic schools that we've seen vaping as an issue, both middle and high schools, and continue to roll
130it out over two years if we can't do it in one year. But there has to be a mechanism where we're not just saying, let's do middle, let's do middle schools when we have probably high schools that have major issues with vaping. So I think we should proceed based upon data. And I mean, I would love to see it done in one year, but if we can't, then I think we should prioritize over both middle and high schools and spend the money that we have. Yep. So we'll so we'll have the team look at implementation based on the the historical data that we have for vaping for our schools and, and the timeline that we can actually execute with fidelity. We can bring that to bring back, bring that back to the board or provide
131a memo based on the plan. So I have. Oh, go ahead. Just just to correct the numbers of the 12 million was the total amount for all the plaintiffs for the allocation for the school board of Broward County was DECEMBER 2024. It's a little bit over a million DECEMBER 2025. Also, 1.1 is one $1,114,328, and the same amount for DECEMBER of 2026. Yeah, that's what I thought. I knew roughly yes. About for about. Yes. And then there is other monies that were not captured in the initial and were are going to be sent because of the Altria settlement, not just the settlement. So that was a little bit more, probably a total of about four, four, 5 million. For just us or for. Yes, just for just for the for Broward. Okay. Because there were
132two defendants. One was Juul and the other one was Altria. Okay. There were two separate settlements. Gotcha. Okay. Thank you for that clarification. I have a question on this. So we don't have the capability because we don't have the staffing. Is it possible to hire a consultant outside vendor to to augment what we're doing so that we could finish it in the first year? And while they're doing that, can you give us a timeline of when they will start to go into the middle school? I mean, I know you're on a cadence now. So do we have. I'll let Chief Gregory give you that detail. I know we we did. We just finished up a great pilot to actually choose the devices. That's going to work best for us in our schools. Go ahead. Chief
133Gregory wanted to know the timeline as far as the implementation. Now, when they're going to start implementing, installing them in the middle schools. So with regard to the question of how rapidly we can ramp it up, the limitation had to do does involve staff and staff availability. However, we do have the opportunity to try to contract more work out to outside vendors. If we contract out our infrastructure network work as well as the devices themselves, we MAY be able to expedite how quickly they can be installed and rolled out. And then when do when, when are we starting with this first round? We're we've already started. Technically we're working with procurement to finalize the the correct procurement vehicle, whether it be a state contract or a piggyback contract. We're working through that with the procurement.
134So when do you I know we had a pilot. When do you expect to start putting them into whichever school it is we're going to start with. As soon as we get through procurement. And I just that's an unknown for me as far as how long it'll take to work through those elements. But as soon as we get an answer and we can execute, we're ready to move forward. And how long do they take to install? I'll have to bring back a project plan through a follow up with you on what the project plan calls for. Okay, MRS. Alhadeff. So my thinking is, you know, data should drive what schools to put these vape detectors in first. And so to that point, I would love to see for a middle school and high school the
135the amount of vaping that's going on, the schools, you know, to determine whether it's going to go in a high school before middle school, I believe it's the data. I mean, you know, you can give an overall philosophy regarding vaping and when it starts and prevention, but I think it's the data should drive what schools get the vape detectors first. Yeah. And we'll we could we'll provide the data and we'll look at the data to the, the one thing about vaping, because we've gone through this in different iterations, the one thing about vaping data is that it's not often caught because you can't smell it, you know. So most schools depend on actually catching a kid with vape or somebody telling on a kid who's vaping in the bathroom. So that's the that's why research
136is so valuable with it and understanding, you know, where are the the age groups that have the most issues. But we'll look at our discipline data to see how that looks for between middle and high school and make adjustments if needed. And I would just say, you know, as as a parent, parents expect that these vape detectors are are in our bathrooms. I mean, I know kids that literally will not go to the bathroom the whole entire day because they're scared to go into the bathroom because the vaping is going on. And also the vaping is clogging our toilets and causing plumbing issues. So you're absolutely right. So it's a, you know, really important, you know, we have this funding from this lawsuit. The expectation is that it's at the middle school and high school
137level. Drive by data. Thank you. MADAM Chair. Thank you. Yes. We're we're on the same item. We're we're still on MRS. Alhadeff. We haven't voted on her motion. Okay. Could the motion be repeated? MRS. Alhadeff, could you repeat your motion. To install the vape detectors in all middle and high schools this school year? Okay, MADAM Chair. Could could we also. And I don't know if board member Alhadeff would like to add this, but I you know, we did talk about, as she mentioned as well, based on data analysis as far as priority. So. Would that be I think that would be necessary for the motion that is prioritized based on the data analysis. Yes. Good. Okay. Perfect. All those in favor of the motion? Oh. I just want to say so I understand we're going
138to vote on this. We will bring back the project plan with a timeline. So if whatever's voted on, if we can't execute all, we will bring that back and explain the reason why, even if we're using additional vendors. Because I know we're going to be limited based on the on the people who are installing it, be it it's us or bringing in additional vendors. So we'll bring that information back regardless of what the vote is. So I just want to say that before we vote. Thank you. All those in favor of the motion say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Say no. Motion carries unanimously, MRS. Rupert. Thank you. We're on to my original. My real question. I get to answer that now. Ask that now. Yes, ma'am. Okay, I want to I want to appreciate staff.
139I, I so appreciate them. They actually got all my my questions to me. There's just one I, I needed to just hear talking about the the funding of us fully understanding the building automation systems, I had asked what will it entail? Which they explained, but how will it impact our employees? Because I'm still hearing from employees that are nervous. So I wanted to hear this on the record. Doctor Hepburn. Is it the Fastenal? I'm trying to go ahead, MISS Paul, if you know what she's discussing. Building automation that's basically having controls over. The. Temperature in your buildings. So it's like a thermostat and it allows us to adjust remotely the temperature in our schools. And so that's that's the whole purpose of it, to be able to put controls over the temperature in the building.
140And just to add to what MISS Paul is talking about to this is, goes goes back to also resiliency. And also being more green with the inability to really see and control ac centrally. We waste a lot of money because some buildings, some buildings are staying on all day at a very low temperature with nobody in occupying the building at that time. So it's going to give us a better lens so we can control temperature when nobody's occupying the building. So we can actually save money on that end to. Right. I appreciate that and 100% for it because like I said, Lions Creek's having trouble with their air. So I absolutely support that 100%. And I look forward. I've already very nicely spoken with MISS Paul about Fastenal and about some other things that are
141going to be coming in SEPTEMBER, so I look forward to seeing them and I appreciate my colleagues having their their questions and wherewithal to ask, you know, what's best for our students and our employees. So I appreciate that very much. And I am ready to yield back my time. And I'm back in the us, thank GOD. Barely. But we're here. Well, thank you and welcome back, Doctor Zeeman. Okay. Doctor Holness. Thank you, MADAM Chair. So. The next three motions that I have will be based on the $5.9 million allocation in the ecosystem of mlk, Broad Estates Early Learning Center and Plantation Elementary. So the the motion is to just be more specific into the needs of these three schools and ensuring that the 5.9 million to which the board has already agreed to spend in
142the ecosystem is being spent wisely at these three schools. And then lastly, I have a fourth motion to include an item in the dfb. So I'll start with mlk, as it has been agreed that the 5.9 million in smart bond funds originally allocated to Broad Estates will remain within the three schools ecosystem. I moved that a portion of these funds be allocated to support the following capital improvements at mlk Elementary School and with and I will rely on Doctor Hepburn to give me an idea as to when these can be completed, which will then be placed in a motion. Number one. The resurfacing. I'm sorry the installation and extension of permanent covered walkways. The district had responded with a financial impact. 1,545,000. Secondly, new playground being relocated for grades three through five with canopy cost.
143The district indicated 255,000 and then hvac controls, stormwater and campus accessibility. Renovations cost of 1,060,000 and lastly, resurfacing of the front entrance and bus loop. A cost of approximately 200,000. The approximate cost for mlk for all of these needed. Work is approximately 3,060,000. Second. Any public comment, board member discussion. So I missed the first part is that coming from the 5 million. The 5.9 million that we had already approved as a board, okay. So o it just sortf redirerectg the superirintenntnt for specifs because this is already in the dfp, correct? Doctor Hepburn. That's correct. Okay. Any other board member discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Say no. Motion carries. Okay. So I'll move on to the next school in the ecosystem, which is Plantation Elementary, as it has been agreed that
144the 5.9 million in smart bond funds originally allocated to Broad Estates will remain within the three schools ecosystem. I moved at a portion of these funds be allocated to support the following capital improvements at Plantation Elementary, which includes one. Installation and extension of permanent covered walkways. Financial impact 540,002. Restroom renovation project. Financial impact 1,020,003 hvac controls and campus accessibility renovations. Financial impact 665,000 for a total of 2,475,002nd. Any public comment on the motion? Any board member comment on the motion? All those in all those in favor say I, I, I any opposed say no motion. Motion passes without I don't think Doctor Simmons on the line anymore. So okay. Motion passes unanimously eight nothing okay. Third motion, MADAM Chair. Thank you. I just had this is for Broad Estates Early Learning Center, as it has
145been agreed that the 5.9 million in smart bond funds originally allocated to Broad Estates will remain within the three schools ecosystem. I move that the remainder of the funds be allocated to address the facilities concerns at Broad Estates Early Learning Center, to include hvac repairs. Secondly, interior painting and wall damage. Second. Any public comment on the motion? Board member comment doctor wholeness. Do you know what that amount is? That amount has not yet been determined. And that's the reason the motion is that I move that the remainder of the funds be used to to offset the cost or complete the cost of these two items. Okay. All those in favor of the motion say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Say no. Motion carries unanimously without Doctor Zeeman. Okay. And MADAM Chair, that would exhaust the the
1465.9 million. So I am moving I'm making another motion because Broad estates early learning center that is servicing students all across Broward County. Has indicated, based upon information received from MR. Sims regarding reroof buildings related to the Early Learning Center, we have children who are pre-k children attending this early learning center, and it's important that they have safe buildings. The buildings need reroofing based upon, as I'm being told, the condition, condition, facilities assessment. Doctor Hepburn. And the total cost for that is 846,000. I move that this is included and added to the dfb. Second. Any public comment? Board member discussion I have? I have a question. So why? Why wasn't that included in the 5.9? Good question, board member Hixon. Because the 5.9 is exhausted because of the scope of work needed for these three
147schools. All of the work that's being done and that's indicated is being taken from the 5.9, with the exception of this one, because there's only a $500,000 remaining for the completion of the work at Broward Estates Early Learning Center, and there's not adequate funding remaining for the Reroof buildings that's indicated within the cfa. Okay, I, I guess just looking at it, I would have thought reroofing would have been before covered walkways, playgrounds, all of that, especially with the roof. But Doctor Hepburn, can you. Can can you weigh in on this and give us like. First if I can ask MR. Shim, is that already in the dfp? The the roofing for certain buildings that are occupying kids at Broward Estates just to make sure. No, I don't believe that. And if not, it sounds like
148it's not an 840,000. Ask if there's 500,000 left over from the 5.9. It's a 346,000. Well. No, because that money was what we just passed to say whatever was left. So if there was 500,000 left, it was going to Broward Estates for the other roofing. Are we talking about? I thought we talked about Broward Estates. That's why I'm asking. Okay. So Doctor Hepburn, the the information that was presented to me from staffing has brought estates listed as needing reroof buildings related to early learning center that I did not ascertain myself. That was based upon data presented to me by staff. So is that accurate? Yes. I'm seeing or not, that's accurate. I just want to confirm it's not currently in the dfp. The 5.9 million, the original amount that was set aside for Broward Estates
149included the roofing as part of the project. But the original amount. The original. Before we just went through and I kind of I wish we had known this piece before all the other ones because now with what we just passed those other three motions, we've exhausted the 5.9. So there's not money in that 5.9 for roofing because we didn't include it in all those things that you broke down, which would have made more sense to include it in there. So now just a little. So out of the adult, as Doctor Holness is going through his item, I heard there was some left over and. Whatever was left over, but he was specific for what went to Broward Estates, which was this is separate. This is a forth motion. So it would have made it would
150have helped to know you had this piece also. So we could have maybe adjusted the other one, because I really don't feel comfortable going over the 5.9, because we had all agreed that we would stay within that 5.9, because it was for Broward Estates, and now all the money went to everywhere but Broward Estates, and now we're going to give an extra almost million, which they need. But I mean, the whole point of making early learning was so that we didn't incur all the costs. So I'm, I'm just a little okay. So, MADAM Chair, MAY I clarify? Okay. So I know that there are schools all across Broward County that have needs that that are included, some of them in the dfp. I look at the express needs of the three schools and having the
151$5.9 million that was in the smart bond allocation being exhausted, I thought it would be. Reasonable to cover what we saw as the concerns, and then asked that the remaining costs be included in dfp. That was my rationale. It depending on the I mean, I'd love to see what the board vote is for it. And, and and then I MAY have additional comments, but but you know, the the the needs that were expressed here, the hvac controls for plantation as well as mlk, that became new to me recently. I learned of that a few hours ago, but the other needs I did, I did get information on, and so I had to pivot and adjust very quickly as a result of these emerging needs that that that came forward to me today. So Doctor Hepburn,
152Broward Estates, is there any parts of that school that are in consideration for being demolished. That's going to be a board decision moving forward as we go through our process with fca. So fca is going to bring back a lot of data for all of our schools, and the board is going to have to make some decisions based on dollar amount. But again, one thing that Doctor Holden has mentioned, I think that resonates with me is that we do have kids in some of some of the buildings, not all. So could is this roofing. Do you know this roofing piece specifically is, is that in only covering where students are? I just would hate to say yes to roofing and find out later that we don't have like I'd rather make this decision after the
153if ac. MADAM Chair. Whatever fca. I did ask that question and I and I'll let them answer, but i was told that in the early learning Center, these are the areas where current pre-k students are, which creates significant concern as far as their overall well-being. And these are pre-kindergarten kids. And how soon would if we voted on this? How soon? Yes. How soon would roofing start. MISS Paul? Well, once we have the assessment of what's what's needed there, we would have to come up with a project plan and a schedule for it. So I'm not at liberty to say that it would start tomorrow or next week. So we would have to look at that. So determine the timeline. If we waited to see what the fca said, which was next month, right. Would we
154be putting this project off too long or would it be similar in terms of like if they came back and we knew we were going to keep everything there? I just don't want to make this big of a decision without information similar to the other items that we had before us. I think it's prioritizing. Just like for example, Broward Estates, we didn't spend that money on Broward Estates because, you know, we went through redefining. So however, the the board votes, the there would have to be a project plan created anyway when the fca comes back with certain information for the if the board makes a certain decision at that time for any school, including Broward Estates. Gotcha. Okay. I'm just frustrated. I would have liked to have known this piece before we did the other
155three, because i would have reduced some of the other the other money because at 5.9 was for Broward Estates, and most of that money ended up going to mlk, which I know that's where the students are, but I don't know that I would have made covered walkways over roofing. But now I don't get to make that decision because we did these in isolation. So I guess that's my frustration. MADAM Chair. The information, the added cost for plantation and mlk. That information came to me this morning, so I had to sort of quickly adjust to what I had originally planned, which would have been different than what's here. No, I hear that. I'm just saying it would have maybe to give us all the information and let us figure out where that fell in, as opposed
156to the the chunk that it came out. But I mean, it is what it is. So anybody else? My glasses. Okay. Let's see. So I like I would like to make a motion to reconsider what the money that we allocated for mlk so that we can offset the cost. And the total comes to the 5.9 that we've already committed to. Second. Okay. Perfect. Board member discussion. MADAM Chair. Okay, so I guess we're trying to get to a number of the 846,000. Correct. I just want the total for all of these three school things to to come out to 5.9. I understand. So the the reroof indicated here to cost 846,000. So in order to be able to complete that work, we would then adjust mlk and possibly plantation. Was your motion just to adjust mlk
157or to adjust both schools? Well, to be honest, I think my motion was mlk, but I can adjust it to say to to make the total of whatever the the improvements to mlk Plantation and Broward Estates total no more than the 5.9 we've already understand. So, MADAM Chair, I have a few questions. Doctor Hepburn, based upon board member Hickson's motion. And when we look at Plantation Elementary as well as mlk, hvac controls were added later. To my knowledge. Can you inform the board as to how much of a priority the hvac controls are for both plantation and mlk? MISS Paul? I think it's very important to to have the controls in both buildings. Okay. Okay. Regarding the I believe the resurfacing came later. So as a board member, I would recommend forgoing the resurfacing of
158mlk because I think the extended cover covered walkways are important for the students as well as the new playground to be relocated. That would provide an additional 200,000. MADAM Chair for mlk, my suggestion would be to forego the resurfacing of mlk, which is the $200,000 that would. Provide that additional 200,000 towards the reroofing of Broad Estate Elementary. And. Then for. For plantation. Doctor Hepburn regarding the playground at Plantation Elementary. Will that be because it's in very poor condition. Would that be something that would be considered at any time in the distant future? Because I, I know they, they because I visited the school, they do need the extended walkways for the incoming students and they the restroom is a safety issue over there. So the the playground, are you able to speak to? The dilapidated
159condition of the playground as to how in in in the near distant future that could be addressed, MR. Raczynski I think she has a a list. Allison Wojcicki director of environmental health and Safety. So we've been out there to look at the playgrounds. There are work orders in for repairs, but to address the the surfacing material, to add a shade, to do a new component at one of them. So we're talking close to $400,000 to make all of those improvements. We would just need to add it. We could do some of the repairs and then add the shade. If we move forward with that and add the funding for and we have funding for Pip. Okay. So MADAM Chair, regarding playground at Plantation Elementary, I would recommend we forego that. We are considering shade structure
160for all schools and I believe Doctor Hepburn regular maintenance will take care of any repairs of that playground. Correct. Is that correct MISS? Yes. Okay. So that now pushes $450,000 back into Broad Estates Early Learning Center. And lastly, regarding Broad Estates Early Learning Center Doctor Hepburn, the hvac repairs. Is that something that's absolutely needed at Broad Estates Early Learning Center? MISS Paul? Yes, that is correct. Okay. The interior paint and wall damage. Is that something that's normally done through maintenance. MISS Paul? Yes. Okay. So Doctor Hepburn, I would like to see the interior paint and wall damage considered through the regular maintenance. And that that is removed as a cost factor in the 5.9 million. And. And MADAM Chair, I don't know if that gets us to 800. I don't think it does. But I'm
161not sure what else could be that would put an additional 5 or 600,000 back towards 800. I'm having a hard time keeping up. What I got was to take out the resurfaced bus loop, which was 200,000. Yes. The playground at that was at mlk playground. 250,250 mlk. The playground to remove the playground request, which was 400,450. And then to take out the interior paint and wall damage. I'm sorry. Go ahead and do remove the interior paint and wall damage. That did not come with a cost, so we don't know. So I'm assuming there's a difference of about 300 plus thousand. Maybe. That sounds like a difference of about 100 without the paint. Yeah. Yeah about 140 105. So I thought the the reroofing cost 800 and some thousand. 46 846. And I removed I suggested
162removing 450,000 plus the. Okay. So there were we don't know the cost of the hvac repair. So there was already 500,000 remaining roughly. And then we added another 450 to 500. So there's $1 million. I don't know if there is. I don't know what the hvac repair would cost to be able to do the reroofing and hvac. So we have to make a new motion anyway because we reconsidered. So would it make sense to make a motion that said that we would put the 5.9 million that's already put aside into projects that have been discussed in mlk Plantation and Broward Estates that include the things and then have them come back to us with totals. I think it's hard to get totals right here while we're working on that. MRS. Alhadeff. Can I just add
163to the ending of your motion based on the recommendations from the superintendent? Yes. That was what came to me. So that and thank you, board member Alhadeff. That was based on recommendations he presented to me. So yeah. So I would I think I have to make a motion because I made a motion to reconsider. So I would like to move that we change our. Do I have to say change or just make a motion change the allocations to to state that we would cover the projects recommended by the superintendent for mlk Plantation and Broward Estates, not to exceed the 5.9 promised to the to the community. Second. Okay, any public comment on the motion? Any board member comment on the motion? Yes, MADAM Chair, I'd like to for the superintendent to expound on his understanding
164of your motion, because there were items that were deemed to be important, and I just want to make sure he understands fully what the motion is asking. Yes. Based on the motion and the discussion that I just heard, the items that were detailed out or itemized is what we're going to essentially prioritize, right? So they'll look and see what is the most the ones that are needed the most. Okaka so, MADAM Chahair, es thisecessitatate my iginal moonons being withdwn? Oh, yes. Okay. We can pass this and then we can do it afterwards. Okay. So, MADAM Chair, would you be okay with the superintendent if we pass this motion today? Bring back to us what he considered priorities within the $5.9 million, right. I think it could be a follow up. Okay, okay. All those in
165motion, all those in favor of the motion not to exceed the to itemize as per the superintendent's recommendation, by necessity and priority, not to exceed the 5.9 already promised in this community, say I, I and I opposed say no motion carries. Doctor Holmes. MADAM Chair, at this time I am withdrawing my prior motions. Second. Second. Do we have to vote on that? No. No. Okay. Without objection. Without objection of the board. So it's been withdrawn without objection of the board. So thank you. All right. Any any other items? We're good. We're good. Oh, okay. All right. All in favor of adopting the fiscal year 2526, as amended, for the five years beginning JULY 1st, 2025, ending JUNE 30th, 2026. Say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Say no. Motion carries unanimously without Doctor DR. Zeman. The scheduled
166order of business for this special meeting. The school board of Broward County, Florida, has been completed. Seeing no other obligations, I now adjourn the meeting. Thank you so much.