001Heat. Heat. I'm never Okay. Heat. Hey, Heat. Hey. Hey. Hey. Wash number. I love you. Good morning. Good afternoon. I would like to call the June 9th, 2026 informal meeting to order at 102. An informal meeting of the school board has been scheduled for general discussion among board members on educational matters. Who would like to go first? >> I'll go first. >> You don't have anything? I'll go first. So on the workshop is the progressional pupil progression plan and it talks about SA Val and we talked about this before and what did I tell you the date was probably December. December, us board members had kind of discussed it about we have one child that completed the ACE program, then switched to central for the IB program. I asked if there was a way to
002possibly put an exception in for something like that. Um, I did some research. Most of the counties either have top 10, which we discussed maybe doing top 10, which I'm okay with either. Um the child isn't guaranteed SAV valve even though he did or is going he'll be completed with the IB program when he's done with Springstead as long as he tests. Right now he's sitting with 4.73 GPA. He does have some absences which were a little concerning to me. Um to me you should be at school. So that's important. Um, but he will have both diplomas, which gives him 60 credit hours. And I do know that credits don't look at Salvo as something when you're going for college, but to me, I think that he should be at least eligible. And I asked
003for an exception to be put in for that type of thing only. Not to just change schools and and be able to jump ship because somebody has a lower one, but if they can go through our ACE program in two years and then our IB program in two years and come out with basically a AA or AS degree because they get the 60 credit hours for 30 for each program. um that it should be he should be at least eligible for Salvo. At this point in time, from what I'm seeing, he is not got the highest GPA at Springstead, but he should be eligible. So, I looked at the exceptions in here and the exceptions are like, well, if we change, so say he was at the ACE program and then we changed his zoning
004and he ended up at Springstead, which is could be simply done by us changing zonings, then he would be allowed. So, I'm not saying every child. I'm saying an exception for a child that's going to go above and beyond. This child's looking at, you know, he wants to go into probably one of the Ivy League colleges is why he did it. and that's going to be looked at for STSON or any of those really top Ivy League colleges. So, because it's on the progression plan, I figured maybe bring it up at the informal. We can discuss it a little bit and see what anybody else thinks um as far as maybe putting that exception into it for him. >> Thank you, Mrs. Bonsk. Mrs. Duval, do you have anything to weigh in on that? There
005are a ton of reasons why the policy is the way it is right now. Um, all with good reason because of the continuous problems with val designation. And this this goes back to and probably before that, but that's when I first started uh at Hernando High School and there was a problem with it then and in ensuing years and so it's been modified over the years trying to get us a handle on this get it stopped with the gamesmanship that goes on. Um and this last policy the last policy revision which has been in place for a while um has seemed to do the best in handling a a difficult situation. Now we've got a new wrinkle. Uh, and honestly, I'm not sure exactly how I think about this because I do believe that if
006you're you're going to go for Val Sao that while that is appreciated This just seems to be another wrinkle in how some kids might be able to bump other kids out if the board decides to consider this. I I would certainly hope that there is a very very specific language that can be developed for this very hopefully unique situation. But I understand and there's another student in the family who's doing exactly the same thing. >> Not every child that >> not every child does it and every child can do it. um because you know they're coming from the genes of very smart parents apparently. >> But we've had very smart IB students who could have done this and chose to start at Springstead and stay with it. >> Um they they I'm there's probably not
007an IB student out there who couldn't do exactly the same thing. And and you could be right in what I've researched, it's if it's ever happened, it's extremely extremely rare for a child to be able to do both programs with a high GPA. >> Right. You do it with a you do it for a reason, >> right? >> A very specific academic reason to try to get more >> um personal benefits as to college admissions. >> Right. in my opinion >> and that's exactly why he did it. >> And so >> it wasn't so much I want Salvo and I'm going to jump over everybody. It was more so that when I'm done with this, I'm going to be accepted into the university of my choice basically is what he's thinking or what his parents
008are thinking or what the children are thinking that push, right? And so to me to not let him be eligible for that because he pushed himself that hard and any any child and any parent at one time could have said, "Hey, can we do both these programs? Can we you know what I'm saying?" But nobody has. And he didn't do it for I'm gonna jump over to Springstead and I'm gonna take SA Val and in reality right now his GPA. >> No, he's >> there. He's he's not got it. There's other children that are higher than S. I believe >> he's got S. He does not have Val, but again >> uh specific >> Well, I didn't say names. I'm just saying child. Um, so to me to not give that child the opportunity and
009then the next thing that I would state if we did do it, it would say they have to complete ACE, they have to complete their IB and will pass and they have to have attendance. So that would be another downfall for him because again like I said, I checked all that. I checked grades. I checked attendance. I checked everything before I brought it to you guys because I agree. I don't want somebody going to one school and saying, "Oh, wait a minute. I can go to this school and jump." I don't want that. You know what I'm saying? But at the same token, if a child can excel that much in our two most rigorous programs, why would we hold them back from that? To me, that's not fair as a district. We're putting the
010best of the best out there. What about a special designation category? >> Well, we could talk about that too. I'd be okay with that. >> In lie of val >> have develop another unique designation for a student who has done this. >> I just think he needs to be acknowledged. I think that's a great um feat that he did what he's done. And again, like I said, put put in different things like you have to have you can't miss more than this many days, right? There has to be, you know, I'm fine with all that. So, it is that you're attending our schools and and you're doing and and you know, just like we all got the email today about excessive absis and blah blah blah. Again, that's important that they're in school and they're
011doing it. But to me to have a child do something that extraordinary and tell them sorry because we can't offer it at both schools that you could stay at one school >> and we don't want kids jumping from springstead to central >> central right >> um that's just not >> and my understanding is that you can only go from central to springstead and we don't want that happening but at the same token >> kid could go from springstead >> to central I thought you had to do the ACE first and then IB. >> No, >> I am not sure about that. >> Okay. Well, that's what I had asked and somebody had >> I think I think that Mr. Morris, we should really have him look at all of this and there's a lot to
012it >> and >> it can open up a lot of things. So, I think we have >> I would just would hope that somehow we could maybe steer towards a special designation at graduation. >> You know, I'm I'm okay with that. I'm sure they would be okay with that. >> And I think that that's John Morris's wheelhouse. So, I definitely think that this is something that he needs to in the district and his whole department needs to look at and assess and figure out. >> But like I said, I brought it up in December. We were supposed to do something about it and then nothing >> got done and now we're here again and next year is his graduating year and if there's nothing in place he gets no acknowledgement. >> Well, we brought it
013up last year when you weren't on the board. I don't think you were here yet at the time that >> last year I was here. >> Well, maybe it was a year. I don't know if you were here or not. Tell me if you remember Hernando High. We had a situation with a father, with parents, with a family, with a student. So that was probably two before I got on because I don't remember her name. So we had conversation around that and that was also complex and that was also >> really unjust to the student and that still has not been rectified because when I say unjust not that we as a district did something wrong to the student but because of the policy because of the way things are just like this right there
014was no room for >> you know there was no no room for movement we weren't able to do anything so therefore that student was left out. >> Left out. >> And this happens time and time again. There's so many different circumstances that affects the student to where we'd have to really that's where I say I think Mr. Morris really needs to weigh in and we need to really formulate some different >> and we can talk about it when he brings it to workshop because it's on workshop and and maybe he can give something. You know what I'm saying? But I wanted to bring it to the board before that because if there's something that everybody was like absolutely not the two of you I mean we're we're short two board members but the two of
015you said nope we're not changing it or we're not even looking at something different then is there any reason to talk about it during the workshop with him. Do you see what I'm saying? Because the end of the day who decides it we do. >> And the the same this for instance what we what we went through Mr. Pender. Was that a year and a half ago then? Maybe two years ago. >> Two years ago. >> Yes. >> Was it when Stratton was on? >> Yes. >> Okay. I wasn't here when Stratton >> Oh, no. Was it? >> Were you superend would have been here? >> Yeah. I would have been >> two years ago because it would have been I've been here for >> Yeah. Mr. Pender was here. >> Superintendent >> in that
016situation. >> Must have been >> No, it was right before you came on. >> So, you weren't superintendent. >> June, July, August, September, October, November. You came in November, right? He was here few months. Yes. Yes. Okay. >> Okay. >> And so I guess my issue is if we do for one, we have to do for the other. And that didn't >> happen. And so that was a sad story as well, you know, and there are different situations and different moments that >> Here's Mr. Morris informal to talk to us. >> He's like, if I could save this workshop, I'm coming right over. Good afternoon, Mr. Morris. >> Good afternoon. >> Thank you for joining. >> No problem. So, couple things. Um, can kind of weigh in on that. I know Valance Sal has been
017an not an issue, but there's been something that's come up the last few years. Um, couple things other districts do that myself or Carrie Wilson looked into maybe to consider is um they do val they they tend some will do a val for IB program as well as a valid Victorian at the school almost like two vows. Um they'll do same thing with an ACE program. They'll have a val for the ACE program as well as a vow just a regular student who's not in that program. That's something to consider. >> Um, other things to consider with this is I get we're looking at possibly changing policy and such is there is a student who was there for the three years who will not be the S now if we do that as well. If
018we were to just stop that who had been at the school for three years like the policy dictated and now that student would not be the S but they were there following policy. Um, in terms of recognizing the students, I could we'd have to just work out with the high schools how they would want to do that at a ceremony. That's more of a ceremony type thing as opposed to a policy. I don't see an issue with that. Um, yes, what they did, you do need to do the ACE program before the IB program just because uh the way the IB program works, you have to do certain AP courses and such before you go into it. at springside. I believe they don't even start till their junior year for the most part with IB
019courses. So, >> let me interject. As you stated, by switching policy for this, that would then hurt the other student that's been there for three years. >> Correct. Because you're you'd essentially have a student who is now has would only be there for two years now. Move. Granted, this is assuming GPA stays where it's at right now. the student would then be number two and that student would be the the saludiatoran and now a student who is on their way projected to be saludiatoran would not be even though they were there for the three years >> in the same way that we're advocating for this student >> we I feel the same as for the other student that's been there for three years >> correct that's why it's you guys get to make the decision
020on that not me and >> that's why it's a sticky situation >> I'm just letting you know the scenario >> Mr. Morris, what was that situation two years ago at Hernando High? >> Hernando, I'm trying to think because we've had I think we've had one almost every school. >> Um, >> remember the father spoke um correct wrote us numerous emails. >> It was I know exact based on the time frame. It was the month that they came in or the month that we ended. >> Correct. So one year several years ago the committee decided to go back and try doing naming the valent after the eighth semester which is the final semester. >> That's what it was. >> What that did was cause issues at another school because final grades came in after a school
021had already announced the sal and val from colleges. And so what that did was change GPA and now the valance changed. So as a result of that we decided to go back to the seventh semester that we had previously been doing. um that policy was shared, you know, out that hey, it was seventh semester. >> Did that make does that make completely logical sense or does it sort of not? Because I remember discussing it with the father and I'd have to go back and read my emails and and make the call to him and try to go back to this. But I did tell him what he wanted us to do was to look into it because that did happen to his student and at the end of the day it did not get rectified.
022So I did say to him we would moving forward try to look at that and he was a big proponent of advocating for that because he felt it was not just um I remember all of the parameters that he felt when he explained it it did sound logical from his point of view. So some of this stuff, you know, I think like you said, it's hard because it's a case by case situation and >> correct >> and each time it's a different scenario. So it makes it hard. But I think if you if am I right with the father at that time, what he was stating with the seventh semester and going into the eighth and all of that that he did have reason to feel like he felt >> well. Yes. And there were
023some other things involved with that where some GPA were known that wouldn't have been known to a parent who wasn't involved with a school employee. >> So that was part of the issue as well when that wouldn't have been known because after seventh semester the valance was named and that's it. you know who the val is but GPA was you know looked at >> prior to the seme the final semester ending and that's what caused the issues was that people were aware of all students GPA is that any normal parent who doesn't work within the school district would not privy to that information correct >> do you like that it ends at the seventh period like that I mean the seventh semester >> I just oversee a committee I don't >> I I will tell
024you I agree with with it wholeheartedly. >> I would agree if that gives you the grades that you need and and I agree >> they take precautions out of that scenario. We came up with um >> correct >> information that is shared with parents and students in the spring of prior to their senior year so that they know what the rules are, how it's determined. having those grades in by a drop dead date, not coming in after school is already ended >> because you you have a lot of things. Students, they know and parents know too. >> You're basically giving us your answer here and >> kind of. >> Yes. Because as a leader, you have to make the hard decisions and you're not allowed to just sit here and say you want to ride
025the fence. >> And I asked that too. >> So because you are in the position you are, I do need you to weigh in and just like Mrs. Duval that has been a principal for multiple years, >> right? >> I do think that it's important to hear from you because this is what you do every day. >> Well, one of the things you do the scheduling becomes craziness and then there you just have it. It naturally happens. You have school employees who do have access to GPA and such. And now Miss Duval doesn't work in the school system, but I do. And I'm privy to Miss Duval's kid only taking three college courses. So, I know what it's going to do to her GPA, her kids' GPA. So, I'm going to put my kid in
026the five because I know if they go in five and get five A's, their GPA is going to now bump ahead of that students. So, that causes some issues. And I will say it's not all of them, but there is a decent amount of valves that are school employees, kids here, >> because they understand how education works and all those type of things. So, it causes some undue unneeded competition. Um, I mean, I've seen it where I parents have gotten to me to my level because they believe their kids number one and they know the parents are number two and it's gotten nasty in that sense. I will say too, the the Valenc is a proud distinction, but it is not something for colleges and universities. There is one university in Florida >> that will
027accept that they give you they do give you a scholar some scholarship as a valor >> sal $500 >> correct it's not >> for the most part that is not something that colleges are looking at >> he's looking at the college that he wants to go to is going to look at his IB status >> they're going to look at status and they're going to look at how they took them did they do anything extra >> y >> etc etc., etc. And as much as I like the fact that a student is an overachiever and that they work hard, by all means, I think that that is exceptional. But I also realize that when we start messing around with it, it becomes a case by case all the time, year after year situation because you
028and I both know we can go back every single year and we've had this discussion with multiple schools on many different levels. So I I feel that whatever we make a decision on we need to stick to that because every time something comes up we would be having exceptions. So we would probably have end up having five pages of exceptions right >> and we would just keep adding we would have a booklet that was just called exceptions. >> So I think >> that's kind of why I'm asking for consideration an additional recognition. leave bal the way it is but have this special unique category for a student. >> I have a question for you too. >> Okay. >> Who to I I agree Mrs. Duval. I think it's pretty simple to me for layman's terms
029cut and dry that when somebody overachieves to that degree I see no problem with having an exception like Mrs. Duval is suggest suggesting that they get recognized that they also get highlighted. I don't see why only one person has to take the spotlight if they have achieved that capacity. I do think it doesn't have to be in the same regard, the same exact title, but whatever we want to do, I think it's nice for them to be recognized. So, I'm okay with the recognition when somebody has duly warranted it. But I also want to be very careful on how much we change policy and how much we start muddying the waters because then it's going to get really sticky for us on a every single year basis and it could just become just a disaster.
030So I >> no I agree >> Mr. Pender. So what I was going to say has mostly been said here but again what was said about Val and Sal and the weight that it carries going to colleges that's absolutely 100% the way I understand it. Um they look at coursework they look at how you performed and everything else you did as a whole not whether you're val or cell. I think that problems come in when you start to change policies that with good intention you want to change the policy or change it just a little bit but this is so intricate that you don't know how many problems that one change is going to cause. I think being steady in our policy is the best policy. This is our policy and I'm not sure that
031um I'm not sure that even a special designation at a graduation ceremony would require something in policy. I >> and that is not what I'm looking for. Okay. I leave the policy alone >> and then programmatic change that each school as a matter of procedure. >> Yes. >> Does a special designation if needed >> as they see fit. >> Correct. I I would assume Springside does a separate piece their graduation for IB diploma graduates. Is that correct? I've never separate >> does I do they just go in order regular diploma and >> yes we never we never put them at the front of the graduates or anything they go through when they're prior to any student's name being read the whatever honors or high honors honors highest honors IB graduate all that's done before the
032name is read so that Everybody hears what that student has achieved, then the name is called and then people can go wild with their noise. We did it the opposite way one time to start with and that just you the student lost out because and the parents lost out. The whole audience lost out because everybody was hooping and hollering and didn't hear the recognition that that student was receiving. So we flipped it back after year one and we do it did it that way from that point on. So no there's no special uh grouping of honors students >> whatever. >> So how how is that going to look? Let's just say because if I'm hearing direction would be leave it how it is which I agree and then leave it up to the schools for
033if they have something unique and how they want to handle it but could that get overlooked sometimes when we leave it so broad like that could things happen there I mean I guess the right hand needs to know what the left hand's doing at all times so we'd have to be careful of that because all of a sudden somebody could not be recognized that that should have and we thought they would, but somewhere it got missed. So, who who's going to be in on top of when you just leave it for the schools just to sort out? Will that work out? Do you person? >> Well, I mean, when you look at our policy, I mean, there's very minimal language in there in terms of graduation ceremony because for that reason for schools to be
034allowed to have the autonomy to do their ceremonies how they see fit. Um, sure we continue to talk with the principal and such, but but again consider other things. I mean, we have kids who get AA degrees before they graduate and you know, >> well, say for instance, this situation, it did not get addressed by the school, it got >> well, it hasn't been yet because he hasn't graduated, >> right? And it got addressed by the parent. If had the parent have not come forward, I don't think none of this would be even a discussion. So I don't think this child this student >> Oh, it would have been a discussion. >> I don't think this student would have >> been a discussion at the end because the kid wouldn't have got it. He would
035have been like, "Why didn't I get it?" >> That's what I want to make sure of is that that's fine to leave it up to the principles and let them do it the right way. But I just want to make sure that say for instance this one right here. if did was anybody going to acknowledge did anybody come from the school to say you know hey we have this going on what should we do about it so we just want to be mindful that when we have things like this that the principles do know you know that they are giving direction that they can of course they probably know this but that they can and that we're okay with them having something special and a different title a different designation for children who have achieved
036to that degree. John, you can create that conversation, I believe. >> Yes. Yeah, the conversation part won't be difficult. Obviously, the high school has a new principal coming on. Um, I just think I can see some concerns coming on because like I said, an AA degree. I believe the way they do it is they just they just kind of recognize, hey, stand up if you've received your AA degree. um you know you're asking for I mean it probably be similar to that where they somehow recognize a student I don't know if the parent is requesting that the student speak also I mean that could be part of it as well because that's typically we don't have to but it's part of our tradition at graduation is that Val Val speaks so I don't know if
037that's what the parent isn't looking for or if from what I get it seems just recognition but I'm not sure that's the the full request if it's just being recogned Yeah. >> Can you find that out? >> Yeah. I mean, you >> I've been a part of a couple of the emails that have come my way and I've responded. I don't believe I've ever gotten a response back from the parent when I kind of just review policy and such. This was earlier, I'd say a few months ago. >> Last year. Last year is when he started. >> If I had to guess, my my assumption would be that they probably would like to see the student speak. This is me talking totally out of turn, but I'm just assuming as a parent, they probably would
038like that if that was an option. And my understanding was that they found out last year that he was not eligible, >> right? Because he had >> after he already transferred >> and that to me and I don't know if that's true. I don't know if guidance or anybody told him when he withdrawed and transferred to Springstead to do the IB. I wasn't there. I have no proof that guidance didn't say to him, "Hey, when you do this, if you leave here, you're not getting it." Do you see what I'm saying? I just know that last year he got it when he went in and they told him you're not eligible for it and that's when dad started to email >> right >> at guidance with Springstead. So again, that's another thing that if we
039have kids doing this kind of thing, they need to know you transfer out, you're not eligible even if you have the highest GPA. again >> that that conversation I believe was held with the persons in IB at Springstead >> at Springstead but then was too late. He already transferred. >> He was at Springstead. >> Well, and >> no, when he was entering >> and the policy is there and I mean I'm not saying it's completely the parents responsibility, but it is >> I get it. >> Their responsibility to read the policy. I read every policy >> just as much as it is for ours for us probably a little bit more than for us to say hey before you transfer this might happen. Um but I do think or this will happen right but I
040do think that how we can I do want to have a conversation because I get to go to five graduations. So, I was going to have a conversation with you to talk >> about a couple things that I would like to see brought more in line >> so that we're doing that the same in a couple not every single bit of it, but a couple points. So, this is something that we could add to the checklist of graduation for each high school to say, are there anyone with special rec um recognitions or whatever. But we're not going, we may not even know unless someone brings something forward. And what's special is very open. So I think that we need to be very >> um >> concise like targeted as to what it is that we
041would recognize. But I think >> that's a conversation that we should have with principles to come up with. >> And I confer exactly, Mr. Pender, what you're saying. That's my that's my worry is that this could just get out of hand and anything could go or whatever somebody at the moment felt that it was okay. So I do think there needs to be some parameters. I think if not it could become a mess too. >> But if we stay that with the policy the way it is that's what we go back to. This is the policy and this is what we have to do. Anything else we do above that is right >> an option or extra. >> Yeah ju just to clarify. So yeah, so we're not looking at changing the rule how a
042valance sal is being named. Correct. We're more so looking at the schools. >> Well, let me let me ask you that one more time. >> Do you agree with the policy the way it is? >> It's it's more than just >> and I get what you're asking for in terms of making a decision. >> You have to be part of this decision process, >> but he's part he's part of a committee. Does it muddy the water one exception? Would it muddy the water that much for an exception like that? I think you open the door for other people to ask for exceptions. >> Yep. Okay. >> So, if I'm hearing you right, you agree that we keep the policy the way it is. >> Yep. >> If we change it, my my thought process on
043that is you do you do it for an incoming freshman cohort. I would not do it for something that's already set in stone because now again, I gave you the example, whoever's number three right now >> at Springstead would have been number two. Granted that we don't allow this to happen. So you you put if you do it for an incoming freshman cohort >> then um then it sets it up they know coming in as a freshman in high school this is if I want to be valor cell I need to meet this by the seventh semester if I've only been here two years I meet it >> I think the seventh semester gives you enough time gives everybody enough time to calculate everything and if you've been in you know since you started ninth
044grade most people that are going to be in competition for Val and Sal are in competition in eighth grade. >> They are. >> So I think if you're at I get it. But this is this is a point where we can and as long as we're doing that same point for everyone year after year, to me that's what makes it fair. >> Yeah. No matter when we could do it in the middle of the year, you know, it as long as we do it consistently, we could end it in 11th grade. As long as we do it consistently, it's fair. I'm not suggesting that. But I think that this gives everybody time for things to settle and move on. That's just my opinion. >> Yeah. And I, you know, and there would be exception. For
045example, if we ever have to reszone, I think you'd have to look at this and see how that goes. A kid winds up is I believe. Okay. So, you know, those type of things. I think this is just >> Yeah, that is one of the exceptions, >> okay, that it just happened. Um, it's not to take away from the kids think, but again, I if they're just looking to be recognized, I think that can easily be addressed with the principal of that school. Um, I just I fear when you you kind of open it up to now, again, I'm a student who finished my AA degree. I'd like some added recognition now. I'd like to speak because I just completed 60 credit. I'm going to college as a junior straight out of high school. So,
046there's those things that you kind of open up as well when you do that. >> You You were at Springstead graduation. You've been there a couple times. what we did to solve some of this some of the concerns and I'm talking about when I was there um I believe it was the top 10 students you had a val but we wanted to give recognition to the next eight students who had terrific GPA but would not have been allowed under the policy because of Val to be a part of the ceremony. So what we did was got these kids together. Basically they know each other, their friends and let them decide who was going to introduce Val, who introduces S, who's going to do class flower, etc., etc. Um, it truly was trying to get those
047top students on the stage to have a at least a a little bit of a chance to speak and it worked out well and I believe they've continued to do that. >> They have each year >> all the way through. >> They're basically >> we don't even introduce >> they're basically running the program as well. >> Yes. they're part of. >> And that was by that was by design because it wasn't >> we had a student who took a national competition award for FBLA years ago. That student and it was it was in speech. He had to it was a the portion was speech and he's the one who came to me afterwards after graduation and said you know I I could have I could have given a speech. I know what I'm doing. I
048have this this resume that was incredible from the district to the state to the national and yet he wasn't allowed to even be considered because he wasn't in the top 10 at that point. I think he would. He was close. But that's what generated that idea of getting getting kids up on that stage to have that moment. And I think that's what this student may want. So what I would do personally, maybe I have to haven't even thought about it was but would would be to create something where that student could be up on stage and have a you know a little short presentation, two minutes at the most, nothing past that, but he'd have that recognition as a a unique student for ACE and IB. B programs. I would try to incorporate it and
049resolve it that way. >> So, I don't really think that this has anything to do with the board at this point. I think it has to do with you, your committee, the district, your and what you guys make sure happens on all the at all the high schools and that it does get recognized when a student has achieved to such high standards. So, I really don't think this is really anything we need to be involved in other than we we are policy and procedure. So, if we're not changing the policy, I think it needs to be put back in your court. And I think you guys just need to do what's right and we need to maintain that and make sure that the principles also do what's right. >> Yeah. >> And it's mainly going
050to be Springstead. Okay. >> Correct. >> Well, I have a question for you. How much does these cost us to put kids through? >> Cost us. I mean, none of them cost us. I mean, I get it. We pay for exams and stuff. >> Doesn't cost us. How much does enrollment cost us to get? >> We we get money. We get money back for ACE and I I mean, it essentially funds itself. DE in a sense almost funds itself. >> Almost pay. >> Yes. We pay >> somewhat. So, if our kids actually went through ACE first and >> IB and could finish it with a high GPA, it wouldn't cost us anything. But if we send our kids through IB and dual enroll, it cost us. >> But we have kids who do not want
051to go that route. >> I get that. That's a lot of complications. I know. I just threw a whole another wrench in there. But again, >> that's exceptions. >> Yeah. I wouldn't encourage anybody to make their decisions based off what it costs funding wise. Um I mean essentially it's all funded from the state. It's not, you know, I get where you're saying this costs this and that costs that, but we get certain funding that goes towards API and dual enrollment as well. So it's not uh we would never make a decision based on that piece. But I think me and Mr. for Pender will probably I think next steps would just us meet probably Ed Laro as lead principal and then probably pull in Springstead to kind of talk about this and see how they
052want to focus as a high school what they want to do because again it just goes down to their level in terms of ceremony procedures. We give schools the autonomy to do >> what they need to do because how Wikiwatchi does it compared to Springst. Um so we try not to tie their hands by saying you have to do this this and this. balance out is really the only thing we kind of tie their hands with with how they have to name them. >> So, can I say that we're putting it back exactly where it should be with you? >> Yeah, myself and Mr. Pender will talk and work. I don't think it'll be an issue to work out with Mr. Wright at all. I mean, I know he's just coming on, but that's not
053the issue. >> He's been there and he knows >> it won't be an issue with Mr. Right to acknowledge child. under the impression initially this was being looked at to change the policy of how Valen cell will be named but it looks like we've come to a consensus that >> I don't think you're wrong I think that when Mrs. first started. I think that was some of the verbiage. So, you probably did think that. But I think definitely we should not change the policy, >> but that's me one vote. So, >> and then the other vote is too. And that outweighs me. So, I have two other board members. >> I got you. >> So, it stays the way it is. >> All right. >> Okay. >> I'll be back in a little bit. >>
054Thank you for your time. >> 15 minutes. I'm fine with that. Do we have any other topics up for discussion? >> I don't have anything else. I think I've said enough today. >> Okay. Council, Mr. Pender. >> Okay. At this time then, the meeting is adjourned at 1:45.